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to pass. Oh no. What else we got this week? We have actually have so many cool

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topics. Good news show. This is going to be the best Good news show yet because

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everything's freaking awesome. >> The EU requires phone makers to fit

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readily removable batteries for from from next year. Uh but there may be a

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notable exception. >> We'll see what that is. Also, YouTube

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opens up AI deep fake detection tool to all of Hollywood.

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>> I knew. Wait. Oh, that one. I thought you were going to pick the other one. I

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thought you were going to pick the like local Gemini one >> because that was more proof that Luke

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was right. >> Oh, yeah. >> That one's crazy. That one's crazy.

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Okay, we're >> just AI topics people. Yeah, we'll talk about that.

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>> It's pretty cool though. >> Yes.

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headline topic, which is of course Oh, man. It wasn't even one of the ones we

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highlighted. There's so many good ones. >> Yeah, that's funny, isn't it?

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>> Framework CEO and absolute bro Narav

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Patel tweeted earlier this week that um

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>> is it? >> Hm. >> Oh, that top. Okay. >> Yeah, that topic. tweeted earlier this

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week that the Framework 13 Pro launch,

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investment disclosure, has been an overwhelming success. Nice. Batch 7,

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which is shipping in July, is sold out already.

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>> Wow. >> Yeah, people are really vibing with the better chassis, the new better

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touchscreen display that has just Did you watch the video? >> Yes, it looks great.

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>> Phenomenal. Phenomenal like direct sunlight

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performance. Do you guys just walk outside and test it? Was cool.

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>> I've never seen anything I have seen anything quite like it. I've seen those

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like retroreflective displays that are quite like it, but I've never seen one

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with a backlight that's quite like that. Very, very cool. Better battery life.

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Freaking Panther Lake. This thing is resonating with people. But that is not

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what I'm excited about right now. What I'm excited about right now is the fact

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that Narav posted that over 50% of their

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sales of the Framework 13 Pro are wait

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for it

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>> Ubuntu. >> Yeah. >> Not Windows.

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>> Yeah. >> Now we have talked extensively on the WAN Show about the year of the Linux

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desktop. We have even talked like like

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personally between you and me about a video that I was working on called the

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year of Windows humiliation. Yeah. Because even if it's not the year of the

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Linux desktop, >> I I think there's an argument to be made

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that it is the year of Windows humiliation. That video actually goes

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live sometime this weekend. And I had to go do a quick voice pickup when I saw

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this tweet and be like, >> I don't know, editor, put this

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somewhere, but like this is crazy.

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However, however, >> I hope it's just a screenshot of the tweet and you going and no no other

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context. I wish it was now. Sorry, keep going. Now, I completely wish it was.

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However, there is a bit of a catch. And

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Luke, do you want to be the one to give the bad news? >> Yeah. So, honestly, as as much as I

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would love this to be true, >> and you know, maybe it is. And you know,

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I I'm not saying it's not true. I do think that that many people are ordering

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Ubuntu configurations for these laptops and not Windows ones. I am not

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personally convinced that those people are going to keep Linux I'll say not

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even just Ubuntu but Linux on their laptops. I I suspect people are doing

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this so that they can not pay for Windows

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and then they can install Windows and then just through the command line tell

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it that it should totally just activate itself and then go on their merry way.

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Um dawning dawning the hat I possible. I

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don't think over 50% of framework sales

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are people who are going to long-term Linux. I think they should give it a

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shot because I've been doing that and it's actually been awesome.

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>> Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Think about this. Think about this. The last

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thing you just said was what? >> It's been awesome.

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>> Okay. Okay. Now, now think back to the second last thing you said.

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>> Don't worry. I'm not going to go >> shot. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. >> The third last thing.

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>> No. No. We're not going to go any further than that. Then you wouldn't have a shot. You'd have no chance.

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Neither would I. Do you think that there could be a

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significant number of people who order this machine? Oh,

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>> and just get a taste and they're just like, huh?

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You know what? The water's warm.

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Why were all those penguins in it? >> You know what I'm saying?

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>> Aren't they usually in cold water? >> Yeah, >> right. Not always, it turns out.

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>> I know. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm >> Which is great. which is great to know

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because then if you don't like the cold water that doesn't mean you can't join them.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Just join the penguins. >> So I I mean I look I'm obviously like

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literally have a vested interest in in frameworks success. What I do not have a

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vested interest in is Yes. Thank you for that Luke. Uh what I do not have a

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vested interest in is like Linux's success. I got no I got no dog in that

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fight. >> Yeah. It doesn't benefit us. >> No. But what it does do is it's it's

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it's freaking >> it does. >> It's freaking exciting and that benefits

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me >> cuz the more people that use Linux ideally the better it'll get and then

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that benefits me. >> Okay. Yes. But not in like a

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>> not in a monetary way was sort of was sort of my

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>> No, I know. I know. That's why I said it didn't. Uh >> yeah, I honestly I I do suspect some

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people might try it and like it. I haven't used Ubuntu in

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uh I don't know genuinely like 15 20

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years. So, I have no idea, but um I I I

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do suspect some people might actually Yeah, let me let me poke around with

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this thing. I've heard some people talking about it and then might actually

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stick with it, which would be really cool. Um I also would say

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>> that I think a dramatically higher

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percentage of these are real or at least

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people who are going to install a different dro but not Windows um

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compared to even this time last year. I just thought of something else.

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>> I think it's been a massive jump. >> I just thought of something else. Okay,

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hear me out. If you're techy enough to

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install your own operating system, >> Mhm. >> What are the odds that you're also techy

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enough to be by storage drive and

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probably save a buck on the thing?

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>> You hear? You see where I'm going with this, right? Cuz this is people who

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selected a storage drive. >> This is this is the right. it would have to be because it comes with an operating

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system >> and selected a pre-installed operating system. But if you're the kind of person

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that really was just going to rip Ubuntu off of it, put Windows on, pirate

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Windows, like you you you have the knowhow that don't tell me you don't

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know how to open up of all things a framework laptop

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>> framework laptop >> and put an SSD in it. >> It's sort of the point.

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>> Don't even tell me that. I still don't

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fully believe the numbers, but that does, I think, up the percentage that it

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could be. >> I think we're going to get less than 100% of those Ubuntu people moving over

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to Windows. >> And it's just it's an exciting time to

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be interested in open- source software right now. It's an exciting time to be

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interested in alternatives to the the

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tech giants who Dude, did I tell talk to you already about the first time I fired

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my Windows laptop back up >> and it was like it it was like it didn't

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want me. >> It was like it didn't want me to come back.

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>> No. >> Did I have Did I not talk about this on W show? >> I don't think so. I put my Windows drive

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back in my uh PX13 uh that I've been

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using lately, my my Stricks Halo machine, and immediately it did it did

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the [ __ ] thing. Immediately it did the thing. It asked

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me, "Hey, it's been a while. Do you want

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Edge? Do you like One Drive? Have you

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ever thought about Xbox?

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off like I I I almost I was so The only

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reason it pushes you away. It like is literally repulsive.

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>> The only reason that I didn't swap the drives again are because this thing has

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like chassis intrusion detection that I can't figure out which one which screw

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is like the one that I have to tighten all the way to get it to even like turn

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back on. Like one of the screws like grounds a thing or something. Um, so I

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had already buttoned it completely back up and the the main reason that I had

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switched back over to Windows was because I wanted to try out that Logitech Super Strike mouse that I've

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been like supposed to try out for us to do the video

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>> not work on Linux. >> Uh, well the Logitech software I wanted

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to have the full suite of Logitech software if I'm evaluating a product.

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>> There is a a like third party standin Logitech software thing but yeah no that

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makes sense as a review. You should have the whole thing. >> Yeah, I should be I should be using it as the manufacturer intends.

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>> That makes sense. But if it wasn't for those two things, I I

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scouts honor. I would have put the other drive back in. I just it it was so

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offens It was offensive. It was like disrespectful.

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>> This is This is why I am I am using my

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computer right now >> and and move. I think the biggest thing

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for me is I feel like I've replaced the

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time that I spent on Windows being annoyed about that kind of stuff,

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learning more about my computer and doing cool things with my operating

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system, which is what I'd rather do. Anyways, I've had fun using an operating

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system for the first time since

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probably Windows 9. >> Okay. Yeah. Okay. Windows 9 was pretty

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cool. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And that's We're not memeing. We know there's no Windows 9. There was like a

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modded Windows 8.1 that had like the Croft stripped out of it and was like

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like super responsive that was nicknamed Windows 9.

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>> Yeah. And it's it you know it's not all perfect, but one thing that's been

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really awesome is every time I've ran

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into a problem, it is solvable.

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Every time. And it for me has never been

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a major issue. Like I replaced a drive

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and cuz my both my hard drives

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just worst timing in the freaking world. Both my hard drives I could hear timing

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so far. Yeah. I could hear that something was kind of

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off. They were like making more noise than normal. So I did a smart check and

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they both came up with like a pretty significant amount of bad sectors. And I

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was like, well, I tried to think back to like how old are these drives? I thought

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they were mine. When I finally pulled one out to actually replace it, I saw an

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inventory sticker on it. And when I saw the inventory sticker, I was like, "Oh,

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yeah. These are from uh Geodude V1."

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>> Okay. So, these are old. >> So, there was the Geodude and then there was Geodude Revision and then there was

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Bulbasaur. >> I might have personally put that inventory sticker on is what you're

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saying. >> Maybe. Yeah. >> Like these are old drives. So, I was

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like, "Oh, okay." And I I I looked up like the upload date for Geodude V1 and

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I was like, "Okay, it might be about time." Uh, so it's it's fine that they

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that they died. It's a huge deal, but like it it sucks because of the pricing.

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Uh, but yeah, I'm replacing those drives. And when I when I replaced it,

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uh, my my computer didn't want to boot. It booted into emergency mode,

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>> but I was like, "Okay, I know the series of events that just happened. I could

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reverse this, but instead I'm going to pull my laptop out and just look up like

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what could this mean? And I there was a very simple explanation of what to do.

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It did require a little bit of command line stuff, but I'm running CentOS. I

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expected this. That's fine. I'm looking into Oh, okay. What caused this? And

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it's just certain drives can be set up in a way where

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>> Sorry, did you say CentOS? >> Why did I say CentOS? Cashachio OS.

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Cool. >> Um, yeah. No, definitely not. >> You're talking about like an old How did

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that jump into my head? >> Lab machine. >> That's really weird. Anyway, anyways, my

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bad. Um, yeah, I was just like, "Oh, okay. I have to go into FSAB and just

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add no fail to the drive." And then it just booted perfectly. And I was like,

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"Oh, that's kind of neat." Now I like And then I sat there looking up like,

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"What are all the different flags for drives?" And then I'm just like learning

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stuff as I go on. Um, it's cool.

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>> Coming back to the topic we're supposed to be discussing. um our discussion

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question for the framework announcement this week cuz they also had their

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oculink connection for the back of the framework 16.

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>> Yeah. >> Uh they also had their new keyboard which is a pretty exciting alternative

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to the K400. Um but our question is

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forget all the stuff that they just announced just now. If they were to make

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a net new product, what would you want

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them to make? Narav already talked about the potential. He talked about how

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they've looked at he didn't commit anything but he talked about how they've

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looked at printers. The printer one I see as a little less necessary. Brother

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does exist. They tend to be kind of bros overall for the most part.

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>> Printers are kind of fine >> there. They seem kind of fine and it

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doesn't look like there's a lot of as far as I can tell like margin in the

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printer business unless you're willing to fleece people on the ink.

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>> Yeah. So, >> I'm sure there's things they could do

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that could help the world in regards to like those massive office printer

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things, but like I think focusing on consumer would be a good idea.

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>> TVs is one that's really interesting to

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me, >> especially if they're doing their own panels. >> Uh, well, okay. I don't think they would

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do their own panel for a TV. >> Sorry, I don't mean uh I more mean that

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they might have the expertise to like know things about TVs and make a good

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TV. when they did their own panel for the laptop, I doubt it was as much that

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they built the internal expertise and more that they they were able to afford

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to get the glass cut in the shape they wanted. Okay, pretty much. Yeah, but

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even that is is a big it's a monetary investment. I doubt it was as much of a

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technical investment. >> Rest assured said monitor first. I actually don't agree.

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>> Oh, strong disagree. Monitors. >> Monitors. So, the reason Oh, okay. I

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should explain why >> monitor space is pretty good. Yeah,

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monitors, they don't have the same

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increation problem that TVs do. >> They're not forcing ads down your

00:16:21.680 --> 00:16:29.199
throat. >> I was chatting with Brad, who's the uh the ShortCircuit channel manager now,

00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:34.160
and um he was saying that they they did a video on the LG G something. I think

00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:42.399
it was the G5 a little while ago. And like the first time setup process for it

00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:44.720
was like painful. like all the

00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:49.360
agreements that you're signing and like you finally get to the home screen and

00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:51.759
it's just freaking it's wallto-wall. It's just covered in ads.

00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:57.600
>> Yeah. >> If someone were to tell you, "Okay,

00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:59.839
here's the framework TV. It's the same

00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:04.240
TV because at the end of the day, it's not like they're going to go and

00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:07.039
reinvent better quantum dots, you know? They're they're they're not going to

00:17:05.600 --> 00:17:12.160
they're not going to suddenly have the R&D muscle of someone like a like a Sony

00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:14.240
or a TCL or a Samsung. It's that's not that's not happening. That's not what

00:17:13.280 --> 00:17:20.480
we're talking about here. >> It's going to cost more. >> It'll cost more. But if it just got the

00:17:19.600 --> 00:17:27.039
out of your way, >> I'd pay I'd pay for it >> and looked like solid, like if it was a

00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:30.880
B+ in terms of the image quality and just when you turned it on, it did not

00:17:29.280 --> 00:17:36.080
take screenshots of the content you're watching and send it back to some server

00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:38.080
somewhere. it just opened up to whatever

00:17:36.080 --> 00:17:42.080
source input you sent to it and just worked. I think that had that would have

00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:45.840
an incredible value to people. I think it would

00:17:43.840 --> 00:17:49.280
>> I think we're reaching the breaking point. I I think you know how

00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:53.200
>> on a variety of things, >> you know, I've talked a lot about how

00:17:51.679 --> 00:17:58.160
people seem to have just kind of given up on on like the whole privacy ad

00:17:55.679 --> 00:18:03.760
invasiveness thing and how I think just the the horse has has bolted from the

00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:05.760
from the barn at this point. Maybe I'm

00:18:03.760 --> 00:18:09.600
getting hope again. >> Oh yeah, me too.

00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:12.559
>> Because I'm starting to see people mad again.

00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:15.200
>> I think it's because the alternatives are becoming a lot more viable.

00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:20.000
>> You think so? >> I think so. Personally,

00:18:17.679 --> 00:18:23.360
I think self-hosting certain apps is like dramatically better than it's ever

00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:30.720
been. >> Mhm. >> Um I think I think having your own NAS

00:18:27.919 --> 00:18:32.960
for your family is as expensive as hardware is right now.

00:18:31.520 --> 00:18:36.880
>> It's getting trendy, dude. >> It's It's in a geeky way.

00:18:35.120 --> 00:18:40.000
>> It's getting trendy, but it's also getting trendy because it's pretty good.

00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:47.360
>> Oh, yeah. >> And like it's there is still upkeep time and you still have to do things for it.

00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:49.760
Um, but I think the upkeep and the things you have to do are kind of fun.

00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:54.160
Now, >> [ __ ] makes a really good point. People

00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:59.200
never gave up. They just never cared enough because convenience always wins.

00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:04.240
But that's the thing is the the encraptification

00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:05.280
is crossing that threshold where it's

00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:10.960
not convenient. >> Windows for me is less convenient than

00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:15.280
running Mint on my laptop. Windows gets in my way more, slows me down, and stops

00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:20.720
me from doing my job more than Mint does. So, like at this point in time,

00:19:17.600 --> 00:19:24.080
the convenient option is to run Linux.

00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:25.679
And that's not even a Linux nerd. I have

00:19:24.080 --> 00:19:29.280
never once opened the command line. I don't know why I looked down here. Uh my

00:19:27.520 --> 00:19:34.240
lap my laptop's not with me right now, but um >> I'm sorry to hear that.

00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:38.400
>> Um I have never once opened the command line on Mint on my laptop. I've never

00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:41.520
done anything fancy. All the software I've ever installed is just from the

00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:47.200
package manager which is effectively an app store on your phone. Like I I've

00:19:43.520 --> 00:19:49.440
done nothing special with that laptop

00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:54.559
and it is perfect. >> Like this is not uh this is not a a

00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:58.000
weird or special thing and I'm just genuinely more productive on it because

00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:03.840
it doesn't pester me about stuff. >> All right, let's pick another category.

00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:06.400
>> Sure. What would

00:20:03.840 --> 00:20:10.080
then What would you want to see them jump

00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:12.640
into? >> Sir, you're doing ship storm right now.

00:20:11.760 --> 00:20:15.919
What are you talking about? >> Oh, for

00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:22.080
Thank you. >> Thank you for your survey. Dan, >> I have no idea what's going on.

00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:30.280
>> Cool. Good chat, >> Luke. Then, uh, I'll I'll settle for

00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:30.280
talking to Luke. Good plan.

00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:35.679
What a what an appropriate response.

00:20:34.159 --> 00:20:39.039
>> I already think I have one in mind for me, but do you want me to go first then

00:20:37.520 --> 00:20:42.080
or do you want to go first just in case it's you know the best one and you uh

00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:46.799
think of it before I do? >> No, I I before you ever mentioned I mean

00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:51.039
I'm certain you already had the thought. But before you ever mentioned it really

00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:54.159
the TV thing I had already thought TV has been very frustrating for me for a

00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:58.799
long time. Well, you've had to shop for one, unfortunately. Rip Luke's TV a

00:20:57.520 --> 00:21:02.240
couple times recently. >> Yeah. And but even like someone will ask

00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:06.159
me for a recommendation, I'm just like gh like I don't feel good about any of

00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:12.880
the recommendations. >> Like, well, Samsung has these really great looking, you know, QD OLEDs. Um,

00:21:11.120 --> 00:21:19.520
too bad Tyson OS. >> Yep. >> LG has some pretty good-look W OLEDs.

00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:21.440
Too bad WebOS has taken a sharp right

00:21:19.520 --> 00:21:26.960
turn into Crapsville. >> Yeah. So, just none of it feels good.

00:21:23.840 --> 00:21:28.240
So, definitely TVs. Outside of that, I

00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:32.320
might need some thinking. >> All right, I'm going to I'm going to go with mine. I'm going to see if this kind

00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:39.520
of like I'm going to see if this kind of vibes with people, but I would actually

00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:43.400
love to see framework get into SBC's

00:21:39.520 --> 00:21:43.400
like single board computers.

00:21:43.600 --> 00:21:51.440
It's a it's a space where the the cost

00:21:47.360 --> 00:21:53.440
has crept up on people in a way that was

00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:57.600
never really the like >> the idea, you know, like the the kind of

00:21:56.080 --> 00:22:01.440
the Raspberry Pi contract. >> It wasn't the original sales pitch.

00:21:59.760 --> 00:22:07.840
>> The original sales pitch was these things are hyper affordable. They're

00:22:03.760 --> 00:22:09.919
bare bones. Um, and they've just kind of

00:22:07.840 --> 00:22:14.159
um they they've just kind of gotten bloated both in terms of the the feature

00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:18.960
set and in terms of price. And there are still like very basic ones, but it has

00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:24.080
felt like for some time that the availability of the ones that are like,

00:22:21.760 --> 00:22:28.159
you know, supposed to be affordable has been not great. And some of the

00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:34.559
alternatives are not necessarily getting the TLC in terms of of of compatibility

00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:39.440
that the the name brand, you know, Raspberry Pies have. I would be I'd be

00:22:37.280 --> 00:22:43.679
very interested in something like a framework Pi if they were able to work

00:22:42.080 --> 00:22:49.200
with their manufacturing partners that they obviously have for things like the

00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:53.760
um like the the laptop, right? They obviously can can make a circuit board,

00:22:51.679 --> 00:22:58.880
right? Uh, I'd be I'd be interested to see if they could if they could make

00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:04.080
if they could somehow bring their like upgradeable repable ethos to single

00:23:02.080 --> 00:23:07.520
board computers. And I I I don't know, maybe maybe it's not realistic and maybe

00:23:05.840 --> 00:23:12.880
it'd be a stupid business for them to go into because who wants an ASP of like

00:23:09.679 --> 00:23:14.960
$15 or 20 bucks or whatever, but it's

00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:18.240
somewhere that I I feel like potentially they could make they could make a

00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:23.679
difference. >> Speaking of uh stupid business for them

00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:25.200
to go into. Yeah. Um, with the EU's

00:23:23.679 --> 00:23:29.919
thing, which I don't think we've talked about it yet, but it's one of the topics on this show, I believe. Sometimes the

00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:36.480
WAN shows really blur into each other for me, but um, is uh, phones. The EU is

00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:42.159
pushing replaceable battery phones. >> Mhm. >> Now could be the time.

00:23:39.679 --> 00:23:44.559
>> Framework has said publicly that they'll never do it.

00:23:43.280 --> 00:23:51.039
>> That's probably wise. >> And Fairphone already exists.

00:23:47.280 --> 00:23:53.840
>> Yeah. And I think, you know, for me,

00:23:51.039 --> 00:24:00.080
for Framework to have a reason to come in and like compete with Fairphone, take

00:23:57.600 --> 00:24:04.799
that tiny tiny market share of people who care more about like the

00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:10.080
sustainability and and repairability aspect than they do about like, you

00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:12.480
know, a phone being a more cohesive,

00:24:10.080 --> 00:24:16.000
high performance product. And then cut that down the middle. It would it feels

00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:21.120
like it would be a disservice to both of them to to to wedge themselves in there

00:24:18.320 --> 00:24:24.720
unless they were really bringing up like a powerful value to it.

00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:28.159
>> At this point people aren't just buying I I know this isn't what you were

00:24:26.080 --> 00:24:32.400
saying. I'm not saying oh so you hate hot dogs. I'm just talking. Uh but I I

00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:36.400
think at this point people are just buying some people are just buying

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:39.760
frameworks cuz they're cool. >> Oh dude, frameworks are trendy.

00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:42.559
>> Yeah, they're like just kind of sweet. Seeing how excited people are to have no

00:24:41.840 --> 00:24:47.600
investment in >> cheer for this company has been very cool. And you know what? Speaking of

00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:49.760
speaking of cool, >> how much better is Narav on camera than

00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:55.039
he used? >> He's he's a lot better. I I was I was

00:24:53.520 --> 00:24:59.279
like this is improved quite >> very noticeable.

00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:03.760
>> I saw a couple comments about it too. >> He's like he used to be just awkward and

00:25:01.600 --> 00:25:07.360
now he's like kind of cool awkward like trendy awkward. I I I'm I'm sure it

00:25:05.600 --> 00:25:09.120
helps doing our videos, but I suspect in general he's just been doing a lot more

00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:13.440
of those types. >> Yeah. And he's Well, he has to talk to people. He's a CEO. He has to motivate.

00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:18.240
He has to like give speeches and stuff, I assume. Right. >> Yeah. >> So, you just you you get practiced at

00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:22.320
public speaking. You don't really have a choice. But yeah, no, I thought uh I

00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:26.320
thought he did a great job in the video. >> Um why don't we do a great job of

00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:32.799
finding another awesome topic to talk about? There's so much this week.

00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:33.840
>> Yeah. Um this that was not shouted out.

00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:38.799
Maybe we should get through the ones we mentioned at the beginning. Um,

00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:42.400
Ashley Psych, I'm going to pull an audible and do the topic line I said

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.279
that I should have brought up at the beginning. Uh, or that he expected I was

00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:50.559
going to bring up the >> Okay, let's do it. >> Gemini has escaped from the cloud. Uh,

00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:54.480
Sircale, I've never heard this verbally said, so I'm going to call it Sircale.

00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:58.799
Uh, Seroscale Cloud Services announced an an expanded partnership with Google

00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:07.279
Cloud on Wednesday that will allow them to offer the full Google Gemini model to

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:09.840
be used completely offline on airgapped

00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:15.360
unfortunately Google certified hardware appliances built by Dell and featuring

00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:21.360
eight NVIDIA GPUs. So, this isn't >> Hold on. Can we get a Can we get a Luke

00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:23.919
[ __ ] called it? Yeah. Can I get one of those, Dan? Can I

00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:30.080
Can I get one of those? >> This is >> Yeah, don't worry about it. >> This is probably the most like direct

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:35.679
version of what I was talking about that has been announced so far cuz this is

00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:41.360
like an appliance that you buy that runs the the premium cloud only version of a

00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:45.440
model and locally for big businesses. This is that like, oh hey, there's going

00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:49.039
to be mainframes again type conversation that I had uh in in the past. I don't

00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:53.279
remember exactly how I worded it, but something like that. Um th this will

00:26:51.760 --> 00:26:57.279
back to the notes. This will allow sectors with serious privacy concerns,

00:26:55.520 --> 00:27:01.840
healthcare, government, defense, finance,

00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:05.600
etc., etc., etc., uh to avoid risking exposure of sensitive data on third

00:27:03.760 --> 00:27:10.720
party infrastructure. All the customers data, inputs, outputs, etc. It's it's

00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:15.520
secure because of this. uh updating your local Gemini will will require a private

00:27:13.360 --> 00:27:19.919
uh sorry a temporary private connection to Google servers or physically shipping

00:27:17.840 --> 00:27:23.520
your appliance to Google and being sent the new version. That's

00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:27.200
>> so this is for this is for big boys. >> Yeah.

00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:30.880
>> But while this isn't, you know, quite the way that I think, you know, Luke

00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:37.760
would want to do it if he was rolling his own infra. >> Yeah. Not at all. What it is is a clear

00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:41.840
acknowledgement that the cloud it didn't

00:27:37.760 --> 00:27:45.039
fail, but it wasn't the perfect solution

00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:46.480
for everyone that it was hailed as.

00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:51.919
>> Well, and like whether or not you believe the stuff with mythos and

00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:53.600
whatnot going on right now. Um, I think

00:27:51.919 --> 00:27:59.120
honestly the various wars more than anything else

00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:04.480
have been showing us that just a lot of software is just pretty vulnerable the

00:28:01.520 --> 00:28:08.799
stuff if people are willing to spend the time and often the money to work hard

00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:13.440
enough to poke at it. >> And the more connected it is,

00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:18.080
>> the more places there are to poke at it. >> Yeah. So, if it can just be not

00:28:15.120 --> 00:28:22.240
connected, then there you go. Um, yeah, Google IP is protected by confidential

00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:28.399
computing protection, whatever the heck that is. And Serale CEO Dave Driggers

00:28:26.159 --> 00:28:34.399
explained that the Gemini model resides entirely in volatile memory. As soon as

00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:37.840
the power is off, the model is gone. If the system detects any form of

00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:42.640
tampering, it shuts itself down to wipe the model.

00:28:40.320 --> 00:28:43.760
That's in a weird way. That's kind of cool.

00:28:43.360 --> 00:28:49.520
>> Yeah, >> that sucks for me. It's like Dr. Dofen Schmmer's made it.

00:28:47.840 --> 00:28:52.080
It just It has to have a self-destruct button no matter No matter how

00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:56.880
superfluous it is. >> That's That's wild. I I don't mean cool in like a like That's great.

00:28:55.840 --> 00:29:03.440
>> But it's cool technology. >> Yeah, exactly. >> You got to you got to respect it.

00:29:00.080 --> 00:29:04.799
>> Yeah. Um I I guess you know with the

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.240
description of the types of places that might get one of these. And assuming the

00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:13.600
cost considering it features eight NVIDIA GPUs and all this other kind of

00:29:10.159 --> 00:29:15.360
stuff, um you got some backup power

00:29:13.600 --> 00:29:20.240
options. I think I think it's not a huge problem. Um JB leaves a note. It's not

00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:25.039
clear from the article, but I'm assuming model in this case might be um talking

00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:30.159
specifically about model weights. Otherwise, Google physically shipping you a new version doesn't make any

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:34.320
sense. Yeah, I mean it literally did say or I

00:29:33.360 --> 00:29:40.240
was kind of wondering about that too, but it did say earlier like you would literally ship the unit back, didn't it?

00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:43.760
>> You could you could ship it back to get updates. >> You could ship the whole unit back.

00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:48.240
>> That's crazy. So, like

00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:54.960
they might be serious about that. I'm not sure. Uh, but yeah, wild. Kind of

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:57.279
cool. I I I understand that like you can

00:29:54.960 --> 00:30:03.039
if you pay out the freaking nose, you can get a lot better like performing uh

00:30:00.320 --> 00:30:06.559
models online right now. But self-hosting models is really cool. And

00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:10.640
there's some really crazy stuff. There's a there's a MacOSS specific thing. This

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:16.799
isn't in the notes, so I I'm not going to have details on it, but there's a macOS specific

00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:20.320
model of some kind, uh, whatever. I don't know. I don't remember the name of

00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:26.159
it, but it like basically lives on your cursor, your like mouse cursor. So, as

00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:30.159
you're going around and doing things, it'll have like the context of what

00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.880
you're looking at, and it runs locally, and it can try to help you with things.

00:30:31.679 --> 00:30:38.799
And somebody was talking about how they were learning how to use Da Vinci Resolve and as they were kind of poking

00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:43.039
around it would just like I haven't used it and I don't have notes on this so

00:30:40.399 --> 00:30:47.360
whatever. Uh I saw that via XDA. Yeah, maybe I can find it. XDA cursor

00:30:46.159 --> 00:30:53.279
>> cursor peep. >> Cursor peep. >> Is that what it's called? I don't know. That's what Hamnetics said. I I haven't

00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:57.200
heard of this so I'm >> It sounds a little creepy,

00:30:55.760 --> 00:31:01.600
>> not going to lie, but it runs locally. >> Theoretically it runs locally.

00:30:59.919 --> 00:31:06.399
Of course people not No. So, that's not the name of it, man. I can't remember

00:31:03.760 --> 00:31:10.640
the name of it. Um, yeah. Anyways, it sounded kind of neat.

00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:15.760
Uh, there's there's a and I and I'm fairly certain it it runs locally. Um,

00:31:14.159 --> 00:31:18.880
this >> Yeah,

00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:24.000
my Google Fu is still strong. >> It's a relatively small model

00:31:21.840 --> 00:31:28.159
>> and it's running locally, but it's helpful theoretically. I mean, I haven't

00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:32.559
used it. This is the vibe I got from looking through the article. >> Very cool. But there's there's like

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:37.360
there's cool stuff you can do with with local hosting. And honestly, for a lot

00:31:35.360 --> 00:31:41.039
of the use cases people have, you don't need the massive super powerful models.

00:31:39.600 --> 00:31:45.440
You can just run some stuff locally and it can still be helpful.

00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:52.320
>> In try it out. >> In other um sort of AI adjacent news, I

00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:56.240
don't know if this counts as good news except that it means that I was right,

00:31:54.799 --> 00:32:02.320
which I never mind. >> It's good for you. Elon Musk confirmed

00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:05.200
on Tesla's Q1 2026 earnings call what he

00:32:02.320 --> 00:32:09.679
had hedged about on a previous earning call in January 2025. Um he has

00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:16.640
confirmed now that every Tesla sold between 2019 and 2023 that had their

00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:19.760
hardware 3 hardware cannot achieve

00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.919
unsupervised full self-driving and never

00:32:19.760 --> 00:32:26.880
will. This time there was no hedging. This is a quote. Hardware 3 simply does

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:32.240
not have the capability. This is not a quote. Owners would need

00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:34.640
both a new computer and new cameras if

00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:39.760
they were to upgrade to hardware 4. Uh, as recently, this is interesting. As

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:44.640
recently as October 2025, Tesla's own CFO was still telling investors, "We

00:32:42.159 --> 00:32:48.720
have not completely given up on hardware 3."

00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:54.320
I'm going to go off notes for a little bit here. Um,

00:32:51.760 --> 00:32:54.320
duh.

00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:04.080
That was off notes. We just need to make sure. >> Do you remember me telling you?

00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:08.080
>> Nobody typed that. Do you remember me telling you a year ago that I got in

00:33:06.159 --> 00:33:12.480
that argument with that guy at at someone's birthday party where I was

00:33:09.919 --> 00:33:16.080
like, "Yeah, hey, I know you're like a finance bro or whatever and you're like

00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:21.200
really good at being a finance bro, but don't you think at some point the

00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:22.880
liability of selling millions of cars

00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:27.600
based on that they have a feature that they like completely [ __ ] don't have

00:33:25.120 --> 00:33:34.720
and will never ever have is going to be a problem that might affect the like

00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:36.559
finance bro care out sphere of finance.

00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:45.360
Uh I realize that everything I'm saying is very very complicated but like this

00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:47.519
computer no dewy thing you say doy maybe

00:33:45.360 --> 00:33:50.640
bad timy. Um

00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:54.720
>> what are they going to do about it? Do they say >> they haven't um we can hold on let me

00:33:53.519 --> 00:34:00.720
get back to the notes for a second here. The core problem is memory bandwidth. Hardware 3 has 1/8 of what hardware 4

00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:04.559
offers. uh which Musk says makes it physically impossible to run the AI

00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:09.040
models needed for true autonomy. Many of these owners paid up to $15,000

00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:16.079
for full self-driving based on the promise that it was just a software update away. Uh multiple class action

00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:18.800
lawsuits have already been filed. Now, I

00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:24.480
want to make something clear. I obviously seem a little, let's call it,

00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:29.919
validated right now. That's not because I'm rooting against autonomous vehicles.

00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:35.760
It's not because I'm even rooting against Tesla. It's because I like

00:34:32.720 --> 00:34:38.399
seeing liars get their comeuppants. And

00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:44.480
he was obviously lying. Hardware 3, I remember talking

00:34:41.520 --> 00:34:50.800
about this way back then. Hardware 3, even if it was years and years ahead of

00:34:47.839 --> 00:34:54.320
its competition, was a small chip compared to what other leaders in the

00:34:52.320 --> 00:35:02.800
space were building like NVIDIA at the time. And they were like, not close. It

00:34:57.839 --> 00:35:05.280
just obviously was not powerful enough.

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:10.240
Obviously. And there's no way that Tesla hasn't known this for years. Because if

00:35:09.040 --> 00:35:15.520
it was good enough to do full self-driving, do you really think that

00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:19.119
they would go to all the work to make a new chip?

00:35:17.520 --> 00:35:23.280
Why? That's not how the automotive industry works. when they have something

00:35:21.359 --> 00:35:28.720
that performs the function they want it to perform, they keep making the same

00:35:25.359 --> 00:35:30.400
one because that's way cheaper. Or they

00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:35.440
do what like a console manufacturer might do where midlife they will move it

00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:40.960
to a new process mode in order to take advantage of better power efficiency uh

00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:42.079
and better um better uh uh thermal

00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:48.079
management. >> They don't just build something that has

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:51.079
eight times the memory bandwidth for

00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.079
fun.

00:35:51.839 --> 00:35:58.000
Um Musk says that Tesla will offer

00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:02.800
discounted tradeins towards hardware for cars or direct retrofits but admits the

00:36:01.200 --> 00:36:07.200
volume is so massive that service centers can't handle it.

00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:12.079
>> His solution is building microactories in major cities to run the upgrades like

00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:15.760
production lines though no timeline, no

00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:17.680
cost and no concrete details were given.

00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.800
Uh there's a Lionus note on this one. This is actually the second time he's

00:36:19.040 --> 00:36:24.079
admitted that hardware 3 is not going to be able to do it. The last time was a

00:36:22.160 --> 00:36:29.200
tweet though. Uh this time was in an earnings call where, you know, maybe it

00:36:27.040 --> 00:36:37.040
matters, but probably doesn't. It's It's been very remarkable for me to watch how

00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:40.240
many times obvious lies have been told

00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:44.240
in context where like legally you're not

00:36:40.240 --> 00:36:46.960
allowed to lie like that. Um and this

00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:51.839
company just has not been called on it. And I just I find the whole thing very

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:57.440
very baffling. I often get asked, you know, why do you hate Elon? I don't hate

00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.839
Elon, but I don't respect people who

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:04.079
don't respect me enough to look me in the eye and tell me the truth. If you

00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:10.160
can look me in the eye and lie to me over and over and over and over again,

00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:14.400
why should I respect you in return? You're just a liar.

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:20.480
And to me, it's it's one of the worst things you can be to have no integrity

00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:23.960
and to just to just brazenly lie. I

00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.960
don't respect it.

00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:32.320
Do you think there's any room for him

00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:36.800
having hope that they could make it somehow

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:39.839
wildly more efficient and adapted or something? >> So, here's my thing.

00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:43.920
>> Because why would he's going to have to announce it eventually. Why would he wait? He's I

00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:48.800
>> What's the benefit in doing it now instead of a few years ago? >> Um the benefit of doing it now is

00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:52.400
they've kind of pivoted to new shiny with Optimus, >> the robots and stuff.

00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:59.280
>> Um >> like it's it's about it's about managing

00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:00.480
the mood as much as it is about even

00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:06.000
more than it is about, you know, financial results or actual product development or or anything like that.

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:11.680
It's it's about it's about keeping people chill with the vibe. Um, so this

00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:15.520
is this is right in the leadup to the SpaceX IPO, which is going to have him

00:38:13.520 --> 00:38:20.400
in the news for for positive reasons again. So, a quiet uh yeah, that's not

00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:25.040
going to work. But like we've got all these ideas for a plan. By the way, by

00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:26.640
the way, SpaceX SpaceX SpaceX um it's

00:38:25.040 --> 00:38:31.680
it's just it's part of the grift, right? It's part of the it's part of the game

00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:36.560
>> to to just kind of keep things going. And you know, as for do I think that

00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:40.160
there's a world where he really believed that it was one quarter away, well, I

00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:48.720
would it would have to be one of two things. Either he's a liar or he's stupid.

00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:52.720
And I don't know. I'll let him pick which one he wants to be because there's

00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:58.480
no way that someone with all the experience running tech companies that

00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:01.359
he has would have any way of thinking

00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:06.240
possibly like when it's so obvious to a you know pathetic YouTuber like me.

00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:11.280
There's no way that he didn't have people internally telling him, hey, this

00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:15.599
isn't going to happen. Um so he's either a liar or he's an idiot. And so I don't

00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:20.640
know. You guys can pick which one it is, but those are the only two options. If

00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:24.960
he actually believed that it was coming next quarter, then he's a fool. And if

00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:30.599
he didn't believe it, then he's clearly a liar. So those are those are our only

00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:30.599
two choices here.

00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.440
David needs to speak to me. Okay. Uh Luke, do you want to do you want to pick

00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:42.280
a topic? >> Probably something I can grab. >> David apologizes in advance. He doesn't

00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.280
mean it. Yeah.

00:39:43.680 --> 00:39:50.320
>> Uh, what should we talk about? Uh, I'm

00:39:47.359 --> 00:39:57.040
going to steal this topic. Uh, ex Xbox drops Game Pass prices as Call of Duty

00:39:53.040 --> 00:40:00.400
officially exits services day one launch

00:39:57.040 --> 00:40:02.320
uh, slate strategy. Now, this is a thing

00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:08.960
where it doesn't mean That was really fast. Um, it does. Are you back? Good.

00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:11.760
You're back for good. Yes. Okay, got it. Um,

00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.520
>> I didn't even have f time to finish crunching that chip outside of the

00:40:13.520 --> 00:40:21.839
microphone range. Um, no, I do actually have a quick update for you guys.

00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:27.359
>> David needed to cut down the length of the Shiptorm call out in our upcoming

00:40:24.720 --> 00:40:30.640
video that he was working on. So, in order to make up for it, it's going to

00:40:28.560 --> 00:40:35.680
be a shorter one. I need you guys to buy more stuff from Shiptorm on WAN Show.

00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:40.640
Dan can handle it. >> Okay, carry on. Uh, so we were talking

00:40:37.680 --> 00:40:44.480
about how Xbox uh drops its price as Call of Duty is exiting the day one

00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:48.800
launch strategy thing. So, Xbox has officially dropped the price of Game

00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:50.160
Pass Ultimate from $30 to $23 a month.

00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:55.280
That's actually >> huge. What the heck?

00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:59.839
Immediately with PC Game Pass also falling from 1650 to $14. Uh, but

00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:05.599
there's a big catch. New Call of Duty titles will no longer be uh launched day

00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:10.079
one on the service. Uh, instead they'll show up about a year later.

00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:13.839
>> That's kind of a yikes. >> During the following holiday season with

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:18.079
the COD release schedule, that basically means it's not on there.

00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:22.160
>> You can play the single player, I guess. >> Or you can play like you can play COD

00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:26.400
with your friends or you can play like poor poor people COD and be ostracized.

00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:31.119
Like when you think about the social pressure of having like the one that

00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:34.079
everyone's playing, that's basically that's basically the divide that they're

00:41:32.720 --> 00:41:42.079
creating here. That's a really interesting line cuz like is it

00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:44.400
so they're saying $7 less per user

00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:49.119
>> is worth it if people are still going to buy full fat COD outside of that.

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:54.560
>> Yeah. This this gives us insight that we would not have any other way of getting

00:41:52.560 --> 00:42:03.200
>> how much of the like the cost of game pass is

00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:04.560
just Call of Duty. Is that wild or what?

00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:08.240
>> Well, at least what they think it is. Yeah. >> Yeah. At least at least what they're projecting. And it's not like they

00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:10.800
haven't had a Call of Duty launch on Game Pass. So, it's >> Yeah, it's got some pretty good

00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.359
information. >> I'm sure it's based on something. >> Mhm.

00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:22.640
>> That's That's pretty crazy. >> And I I know uh the new Microsoft gaming

00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:24.880
CEO, Xbox CEO uh person said like, "Oh,

00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:28.240
Game Pass is too expensive." But I don't think this is just altruistic. I think

00:42:26.560 --> 00:42:32.640
it's going to be a business move. Um, >> yeah, she she's actually been seemingly

00:42:30.560 --> 00:42:35.359
doing some pretty based stuff so far. >> I like the moves she's at least saying

00:42:34.160 --> 00:42:40.000
that she's making so far. >> Yeah, >> I know. I was I was pretty tentative on

00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:44.400
her because she came from AI background. >> Um, but yeah, the statements I've seen

00:42:42.240 --> 00:42:47.760
so far are good. The like we are Xbox, we should drop the whole Microsoft

00:42:45.839 --> 00:42:50.560
gaming thing. Was dope. >> Did you see the new Xbox logo?

00:42:49.839 --> 00:42:54.240
>> No, >> dude. It's badass.

00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:58.079
>> Yo, >> so the uh it's back. Yeah, the like this

00:42:57.040 --> 00:43:00.960
thing is gone >> good >> and this is back.

00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:06.000
>> That's so good. >> That's sick. So, I don't know.

00:43:03.359 --> 00:43:10.480
>> Keep making good moves and and maybe one singular thing out of Microsoft lately

00:43:07.839 --> 00:43:14.880
will be good. I'm I'm willing to be uh I'm willing to

00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:20.640
be open-minded on that, you know. Uh but yeah, I mean game game pass price drop

00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:22.000
is is sweet. Um the the new logo looks

00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:25.920
fantastic. Like the whole idea of really centralizing around Xbox instead of

00:43:23.839 --> 00:43:29.440
Microsoft gaming is is great. >> She made a statement. She made a

00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:32.880
statement about like, you know, games being human crafted,

00:43:31.359 --> 00:43:36.800
>> which I thought was pretty pretty chill. >> Cool. Sweet. >> Yep. Did you finish all of this reading

00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:44.480
through all of it? >> No. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. Carry on. >> Uh, this comes just days after the new

00:43:41.040 --> 00:43:47.920
Microsoft CEO, Ash Chararma, uh, leaked

00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:50.720
Asha, sorry, Asha Chararma leaked memo

00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:55.280
called Game Pass too expensive. The price hike to $30 only happened in

00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:59.440
October 2025, one month before Black Black Ops 7 launched. Okay, so it was

00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:04.800
raised for that. So, I just lowered it back down. That's fine. Um, for context,

00:44:01.520 --> 00:44:08.079
Bloomberg reports day one COD access

00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:10.800
cost Microsoft over $300 million in loss

00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:17.359
sales last year with Black Ops 7 launch sales down over 60% in some uh markets.

00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:21.200
Wild. Microsoft spent $69 billion dollars to buy Call of Duty, put it on

00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:27.040
Game Pass, hiked the price to cover it, and is now pulling it back out. Was the

00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.160
whole thing worth it? I mean, if they're

00:44:27.040 --> 00:44:34.000
I mean, it could be. >> Dude, we're at the point now where like

00:44:30.640 --> 00:44:36.000
the the the the billions of dollars for

00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:41.200
company acquisitions have gotten just crazy. Like, remember when Twitch sold

00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:46.079
for $1 billion and everyone went, "Whoa."

00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:52.880
Okay, like for context, Twitch, while not a money maker,

00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:54.400
is a strong brand with like strong

00:44:52.880 --> 00:45:02.560
recognizability for younger people with countless users.

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:05.359
like it's it's a it's a hyper powerful

00:45:02.560 --> 00:45:09.440
social media video platform and it sold for a billion dollars and then it was

00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:15.920
just like what what what was it like 10 years later or whatever else that

00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:19.440
Twitter sold for 44 billion and you know

00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:21.920
I I just it's it's Yeah. Are you talking

00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:26.800
about this uh 1.75 trillion or whatever? Yeah. Okay. So, so SpaceX acquires

00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:31.520
Cursor for60 billion.

00:45:28.640 --> 00:45:35.760
>> They have they have the right to. They haven't actually done it yet, but Cursor

00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:38.240
has been like, "You can buy us for $60 billion."

00:45:36.560 --> 00:45:43.520
>> But are we just are we just reaching a point where these numbers are just kind

00:45:41.040 --> 00:45:48.800
of pure silliness with absolutely no attachment whatsoever to business

00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:51.040
reality or or is that or is that point well in the rearview mirror behind us?

00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:56.079
Like I just >> I think it's I think it's behind us to be completely honest.

00:45:53.839 --> 00:46:00.960
>> Like I I I would sell Linus Media Group for for $60 billion or I'd sell the

00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:04.560
right to acquire Linus Media Group for $60 billion. No problem. It's like

00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:09.680
what's what's I bet I'm more profitable than them. >> It's just as legitimately on paper as

00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:11.280
the uh the the memory purchases from Sam Alman.

00:46:10.319 --> 00:46:17.359
>> Yeah, exactly. >> Amir in full chat said, "As a British Indian, I can confirm it's pronounced

00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:22.880
more like Asha." >> Thank you. >> Sounds good. Um,

00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:29.280
>> was it worth it? >> Wild. >> I mean, technically they did get more

00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:33.520
than just Call of Duty. There was Candy Crush Saga,

00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:39.480
>> World of Warcraft, >> whatever stuff Blizzard is pissing away.

00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:39.480
Um,

00:46:39.839 --> 00:46:44.079
I've heard people are happy with the the new stuff.

00:46:43.359 --> 00:46:50.079
>> Oh, yeah. >> I I don't even remember what it's called. >> Latest candies. No, the WoW stuff.

00:46:49.200 --> 00:46:54.640
>> Oh, really? >> Uh, midnight. Midnight.

00:46:52.240 --> 00:47:01.520
>> Okay. Well, that's cool. Yeah. Oh, okay. Ollie cool says, "Yeah, new WoW good."

00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:03.920
>> Overwatch is apparently also like

00:47:01.520 --> 00:47:06.880
I think since they just gave up on the whole two stuff,

00:47:05.200 --> 00:47:11.520
>> it's been getting more traction again, which is interesting. >> Wow. Rob Phil says, "Starcraft tabletop

00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:16.480
game coming." >> What? >> What?

00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:22.560
>> Interesting. Please don't tell me it's just risk. >> You have my attention.

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:26.160
>> You know, game inspired tabletop games have been doing pretty well lately.

00:47:24.319 --> 00:47:29.160
Actually, >> starcraftm.com.

00:47:29.359 --> 00:47:34.720
Maybe the page will load. About our

00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:38.640
>> Oh, I'm on it. My page loaded. >> Nice. Okay. What am I What am I What am

00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:47.040
I looking at here? What am I looking at? >> Tabletop miniatures game. So, is it Warhammer?

00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:47.920
These are very concept arty. 60 to 120

00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:56.240
minutes. >> It's Warhammer. >> Oh, okay. I mean, sure.

00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:57.280
>> Oh, it sure is Warhammer.

00:47:56.240 --> 00:48:00.880
>> Oh, >> okay. So, they're just chasing that

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:04.720
Warhammer money. >> Yeah, >> it's cheaper than Warhammer.

00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:06.800
>> Apparently, them Warhammer gamers got them monies.

00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:12.800
>> All right. >> My god. >> I mean, they don't call it Warhammer

00:48:09.359 --> 00:48:14.079
401k for a reason.

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:18.160
That's pretty good. I've never heard that before. >> I haven't either. That is pretty good.

00:48:16.640 --> 00:48:21.760
>> That's good. That's good. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Okay.

00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:25.280
>> Are you going to load a price, please? >> I don't think it's going to happen.

00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:29.119
>> All right. Well, anyway, good luck with that, Blizzard.

00:48:26.319 --> 00:48:33.599
>> Yeah. Um, >> yeah, let's uh let let's do let's do a

00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:38.480
thing. Let's >> All right.

00:48:35.359 --> 00:48:40.559
Uh where where do I find that?

00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:44.880
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sweet deals for you. We have buy more, save more on blank TE's, uh, scribe

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driver pen and pencils for just 20 bucks, free techack if you buy a

00:49:44.640 --> 00:49:51.760
commuter or LT original backpack in the US, and it's running from April 24th to

00:49:49.839 --> 00:49:57.440
May 7th. So, don't wait for the storm to pass. Get in there now.

00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:02.960
Uh, what else am I supposed to be doing, Dan? >> Couple comms if you want.

00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:07.119
>> Oh, right. Okay. Right. And if you if you send uh if you place your order now,

00:50:04.720 --> 00:50:11.599
then it's a perfect time to uh send a comm a checkout message. We don't

00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:16.160
believe in sort of throwing money at your screen just, you know, in hopes

00:50:13.359 --> 00:50:20.640
that maybe your favorite streamer senpai will notice you. We think that it it's

00:50:18.720 --> 00:50:24.880
great for us to be able to interact with you guys, but we also want you to get

00:50:22.160 --> 00:50:28.800
quality merchandise in the mail. So, we created checkout messages, which are the

00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:31.760
best way to interact with the WAN Show. All you got to do is head over to

00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:36.559
ltstore.com. Luke's on it.

00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:40.720
Add uh some terrific quality merchandise to your cart. You went to ltlabs.com.

00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:44.480
>> Shameless plug. Shameless plug. >> Nice. Nice. >> New site, by the way.

00:50:43.040 --> 00:50:48.240
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The new site is live. Now is a great time to go just

00:50:46.720 --> 00:50:53.040
like browse the site and check out all the cool stuff. The the team worked super hard on this.

00:50:51.200 --> 00:50:55.839
>> Um, by the way, by the way, the multi-pocket leggings, dude. Smash.

00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:00.400
>> Oh yeah. >> Do you remember me talking about like, hey, we really need this to be a success

00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:06.319
or like women's apparel might not be a thing, dude. But they're gone. >> Classic LT store fashion. Tried to get

00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:10.720
some for for friends and family. They're gone.

00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.440
>> So many sizes are sold out. So if you want to have a shot at them, now is a

00:51:12.160 --> 00:51:21.079
great time to go check it out. Anyway, I don't know. for a scribe driver in the cart. So, all you got to do is throw

00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:21.079
something in your cart and you will see

00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:29.280
>> the checkout message interface. You can leave a message that'll go to producer

00:51:25.200 --> 00:51:30.880
Dan who will reply to it or he will uh

00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:37.040
just pop it up like that one that's up at the top right now or he will curate

00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:39.359
it for me and Luke to respond to. By the

00:51:37.040 --> 00:51:44.640
way, there's a new dashboard where you can see your checkout messages. How do

00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:47.839
people access that? >> Uh where is it exactly?

00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:52.880
>> So just in case you missed the little, you know, the little popup like this. Um

00:51:51.040 --> 00:51:56.800
>> I think it's at the bottom here. >> There's a spot somewhere.

00:51:54.240 --> 00:52:00.000
>> Yeah. So if we go to my screen, check out message portal right here.

00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:03.440
>> Yeah. So if you're signed in, there you go.

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:10.720
>> Nice. That is That is like the geekiest 1990s

00:52:07.839 --> 00:52:14.160
how many page visits my Geio City site has received thing that I have seen in

00:52:12.720 --> 00:52:19.280
forever. I actually kind of like it. >> Oh yeah, >> that's pretty cool. That's very cool.

00:52:17.520 --> 00:52:24.240
>> All right. Anyway, uh Dan, do you want to show us how it works by u curating a

00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.760
couple of checkout messages for us? Uh before hold on before you do that

00:52:25.839 --> 00:52:32.800
though, uh David Gochier's neighbor Joseph is apparently a huge LTT fan and

00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.960
it's his birthday this week. Oh, >> happy birthday, Joseph.

00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:39.359
>> Happy birthday, Joseph. >> David never asked for anything like that. So, when he was like, "Hey, it

00:52:38.319 --> 00:52:44.720
would mean a lot to me if you could shout out Joseph." I was like, "Yes, you

00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:49.280
know, sure thing, sir." All right, Dan. Hit me.

00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:52.559
Sure thing. Happy storm sale, DLL. Can you please tell the story of what

00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:59.359
happened to the Moto shirt? I was going to buy one as a gift for my employee.

00:52:54.960 --> 00:53:02.160
Only one. It's all that was deserving.

00:52:59.359 --> 00:53:09.920
>> No, I can't. Okay. Sorry. What What was the question?

00:53:04.319 --> 00:53:13.040
>> The Moto shirt is no longer on the site.

00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:17.119
>> Oh, yeah. Up next,

00:53:13.040 --> 00:53:19.200
>> I at some point I may or may not know

00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:22.359
what I may or may not be able to say about it,

00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:30.480
>> but it is not this day. How has the process for vetting sponsors

00:53:28.319 --> 00:53:34.319
evolved over time? any learnings you care to share?

00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:38.559
>> Yeah, actually I mean I think in the very early days we didn't really have a

00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:43.760
lot of choice. It was it was pretty much whoever was in my Rolodex from my time

00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:46.559
at NCIX and you know was willing to go

00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:49.760
to bat for me and and try to try to allocate some of the budget that at the

00:53:48.319 --> 00:53:55.440
time would have been predominantly allocated to like written media for this

00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:58.720
like new fangled YouTube sponsorships

00:53:55.440 --> 00:54:01.599
thing. Um it it's it's it's still wild

00:53:58.720 --> 00:54:09.680
to me how long the transition took and even now as has continued to take given

00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:12.079
how how data heavy uh video is and how

00:54:09.680 --> 00:54:16.319
sort of like obviously more trustworthy those metrics are compared to more

00:54:13.839 --> 00:54:18.720
traditional mediums like magazines like I've talked about this on the land show

00:54:17.680 --> 00:54:23.440
before but did you know that the way that magazines calculate how much you're

00:54:21.040 --> 00:54:28.319
paying for ads assumes that that magazine gets read cover to cover like

00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:31.920
like six times or something like that. Like at newspapers too, like they would

00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:36.240
calculate that every newspaper passed through multiple people's hands and that

00:54:34.319 --> 00:54:40.559
every person who looked at it looked at every single ad like like it's like it

00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:46.880
was crazy. Uh whereas with video, we had, you know, the world's biggest

00:54:43.839 --> 00:54:50.079
advertising company with the most sort

00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:52.079
of, as far as I could tell, trustworthy

00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:55.920
analytics saying, "Hey, you got this many views." and people just like they

00:54:54.400 --> 00:55:00.640
weren't into it. They weren't interested in it. So for a long time it was whoever

00:54:58.240 --> 00:55:05.760
would go to bat for me and and would you know get us the support to to to sponsor

00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:11.119
the videos. And then from there there was a a big transition

00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:14.480
to uh like radio advertisers were moving

00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:17.200
into podcasting and then from podcasting

00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:20.960
it's a pretty natural transition into like video podcasts and then from there

00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:25.040
a lot of those folks like the Squarespaces of the world uh the like

00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:31.599
Dollar Shave Clubs of the world made their way into into YouTube. Um, from

00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:36.160
there that model proved so successful for companies like Dollar Shave Club

00:55:33.680 --> 00:55:40.079
that uh in in growing their business that I think over time it just became

00:55:38.319 --> 00:55:46.079
sort of part of the playbook. And so nowadays um like I was I was at a

00:55:43.359 --> 00:55:51.440
conference recently for YouTubers and YouTube executives. It's it's over now

00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:54.160
so I can I can disclose that it existed.

00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:57.920
And uh one of the big things that that YouTube was talking about that other

00:55:55.599 --> 00:56:01.920
creators are talking about is like major major brand partnerships. You know, one

00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:06.480
talked about working with McDonald's um they showed this example of like a like

00:56:04.640 --> 00:56:09.680
a collaboration between State Farm and like a more athletic oriented YouTuber

00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:17.200
who tried to kick like a whole bunch of field goals or something like that. Um

00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:20.000
so nowadays you have kind of

00:56:17.200 --> 00:56:23.200
>> did a State Farm thing. So you got a ton of choice these days. And so back to

00:56:21.680 --> 00:56:27.599
your question about vetting, I guess what I'll say is in the early days we

00:56:24.799 --> 00:56:30.720
didn't really have to because it was all brands that we like already were

00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:36.079
intimately familiar with the product or the people and so we like we knew or

00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:40.000
later on it was super established brands who if they had a bunch of really awful

00:56:37.680 --> 00:56:43.119
skeletons in their closet they would uh it would have come up at some point in

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:48.400
the podcasting world which is like kind of a more sort of professional old

00:56:45.040 --> 00:56:50.319
school media space. And then now that

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:54.799
your inbox at any given time, if you're a a midsized or up creator, is just

00:56:52.799 --> 00:56:58.480
going to be full of sponsorship opportunities.

00:56:56.319 --> 00:57:03.359
It's a it's a ton of work. So, I got to give a ton of credit to both our

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:07.119
business team and our uh our community.

00:57:03.359 --> 00:57:09.280
So, we actually uh I I think the team

00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:13.280
does a quite good job of just sort of doing background checks on sponsors that

00:57:11.040 --> 00:57:17.280
we work with. And I also think our community does a really good job of of

00:57:15.200 --> 00:57:21.280
highlighting things that arise with the brands that

00:57:19.040 --> 00:57:26.559
we're working with that don't align with our values and with our expectations

00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:31.040
which I think in turn elevates the perception of the brands that do meet

00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:36.000
the bar and that do work with you know Linus Media Group. So, um, you know, for

00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:41.359
us, our our brand selection really comes down to that they operate with

00:57:37.839 --> 00:57:43.119
integrity. Um, that they take care of

00:57:41.359 --> 00:57:47.680
our viewers. Like, if one of our viewers comes to us and basically goes like,

00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:50.480
"Yeah, this this brand screwed me over.

00:57:47.680 --> 00:57:53.200
Like, I got scammed. Um, and I have receipts, you know, that's something

00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:58.000
that we want to know." And we have feedback. We have a feedback forum for

00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:59.680
that at least techtips.com on the forum.

00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:04.079
Um, and that's that's a that's a huge part of it, just maintaining that that

00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:08.960
accountability and that integrity all the way uh all the way up and down.

00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:13.839
>> This is super off topic, but you were talking about Dollar Shave Club and I I

00:58:10.799 --> 00:58:16.880
realized that I haven't heard about them

00:58:13.839 --> 00:58:19.680
in freaking forever. So, I just looked

00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:24.799
it up and like they do still exist, but I was like genuinely somewhat surprised

00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:29.119
by that. I find it really interesting certain companies

00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:33.520
uh maybe even certain products I looked it up apparently uh Dollar Shave Club is

00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:40.079
under capital management now so like okay whatever. Um but certain companies

00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:42.160
they just sort of stop eventually.

00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:45.920
I find this especially in like you know like >> well they run out of VC capital

00:58:44.240 --> 00:58:49.359
>> snacks and certain like grocery stores. >> Yeah. Like just was like spending money

00:58:48.160 --> 00:58:56.319
like there was no tomorrow and then suddenly there was no tomorrow. >> Yeah. But but even like even like uh I

00:58:54.160 --> 00:58:59.520
>> Savage Jerky. Is that another example? >> No, I I'm I'm talking even big brand

00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:04.240
stuff. >> Oh, sure. I mean, >> like even even if you're like under the

00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:10.160
Coke umbrella or something. >> Oh my god. >> Madras not only still exist, but they

00:59:06.799 --> 00:59:12.880
have a Dave the Diver like

00:59:10.160 --> 00:59:14.960
>> what what what is this? Is it like an energy powder thing? That's hilarious.

00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:22.960
All right. >> Squid flavor. >> Sure. Sure. Why not? Um, but there will

00:59:20.799 --> 00:59:26.799
be like some think of some like snack that would have been advertised on TV

00:59:24.640 --> 00:59:31.760
like crazy when we were kids and then you never hear about it on any form of

00:59:28.799 --> 00:59:33.680
advertisement ever in many years at the store.

00:59:32.160 --> 00:59:40.240
>> I literally haven't seen Dunkaroo. >> There was Dunkaroo ads like every

00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:41.599
channel. Dunkaroos get as much frosting

00:59:40.240 --> 00:59:47.040
as you. >> I'm sure they still exist.

00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:52.160
>> But like it's Yeah, they for sure. It's It's weird to me though that they'll

00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:58.400
just they'll just stop at some point. They will just completely turn off the

00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:00.799
the advertising pipeline.

00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:04.480
>> But this you can't call it a nostalgic snack

01:00:01.839 --> 01:00:08.480
>> and then shake the cookie like that. >> It was a foot.

01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:12.319
>> Gh. >> Terrible. Literally literally inedible.

01:00:10.799 --> 01:00:16.640
>> I don't know if I had dunkaroos, but yeah, there was ads for them everywhere and then they just stopped. There's

01:00:14.640 --> 01:00:19.599
there's a ton of things like that, too. When you walk through the grocery store,

01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:24.640
it's like almost a weird if you go through like mostly the boxed goods

01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:26.079
area, obviously. Um it's kind of a weird

01:00:24.640 --> 01:00:31.920
experience of like, oh yeah, I remember ads for that thing like 20 years ago.

01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:36.480
I've never heard of it ever since other than it just being on the shelf. Um,

01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:40.960
it's it's just interesting to me like how these if it's Coke, I kind of

01:00:38.799 --> 01:00:46.720
understand cuz you probably have an R&D group that's for just like all of your

01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:51.520
different product lines and you'll just release some stuff kind of whatever. But

01:00:48.640 --> 01:00:54.880
if you're a relatively smaller company like

01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:58.559
what you just like fire everyone and stop, but you just keep making your

01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:01.359
product, I guess. >> I literally don't know. Apparently, there were lots of different shapes of

01:01:00.799 --> 01:01:05.599
dunk. >> Interesting. I'm I'm finding other shapes of donarus.

01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:08.160
>> Coke also has murder squads to help. Yeah. I'm not endorsing them.

01:01:07.040 --> 01:01:12.400
>> That's a whole separate thing. >> Yeah. To be clear, >> happened in a whole separate country.

01:01:11.200 --> 01:01:17.440
Completely out of your jurisdiction. So, what are you going to do about it? >> Throw it out of court. It's a wild story

01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:23.520
if you want to go down a rabbit hole. >> Yeah, it really it really is. >> Um, okay.

01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:28.559
>> Oh, speaking of uh, you know, brands sort of doing things that are not always

01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:31.200
totally predictable. Uh, or wait, are do you still owe us another com? Oh, no.

01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:35.599
We're moving into topics now. I mean, we could do another one. I would probably prefer that. We have quite a few.

01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:40.480
>> Okay. All right. Let's do one more. >> I am looking at possibly getting a new

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:44.559
handheld. I know Lionus has a large variety of them. I have the OG Steam

01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:48.319
Deck. Is it worth it to upgrade to something different? Money is not in

01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:52.319
consideration. >> Oh, I mean, yeah, sure. If money is not

01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:54.960
in consideration, buy one of each. >> Okay. I know people don't hate it when

01:01:54.319 --> 01:02:00.480
they say that. >> People never really mean that money is

01:01:57.359 --> 01:02:02.720
not a consideration. Money is always a

01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:06.880
consideration. You could literally be shopping for a private jet and money

01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:11.440
would still be a consideration because there's there's degrees of copious

01:02:09.359 --> 01:02:17.280
amount of money. But okay, I'm going to I'm going to assume that what you meant

01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:20.400
is that you could fit into your budget

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:24.240
any one handheld. And if that's the

01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:26.480
case, I got to tell you that I haven't

01:02:24.240 --> 01:02:34.640
yet seen my perfect Steam Deck upgrade.

01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:37.119
There are handhelds that are bigger.

01:02:34.640 --> 01:02:43.359
There are handhelds that are better. There are or faster rather. There are

01:02:39.839 --> 01:02:46.480
ones that are that have features that

01:02:43.359 --> 01:02:48.880
the Steam Deck doesn't have. Um, you

01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:52.079
know, like if you wanted an OLED screen, you could get this one. Or if you wanted

01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:56.160
>> Steam Deck OLED >> better compatibility. Uh, yeah, but they have a they have an original Steam Deck,

01:02:55.520 --> 01:03:02.559
though. >> Uh, if if you wanted more compatibility, there's ones that run Windows. If you

01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:06.400
wanted one with detachable like Joy-Con things that have like mice in them.

01:03:04.720 --> 01:03:10.319
Lenovo has one that does that. Like there's you name a gimmick, somebody has

01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:15.200
it. If you want one that has like erggo grips, there's the Xbox Ally Series X

01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:23.359
Ally thing. um you know some something like that, right? But Valve keeps

01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:24.880
saying, "Hey, we need like like next

01:03:23.359 --> 01:03:31.200
generation level hardware in order to rev the Steam

01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:34.960
Deck in order to do a Steam Deck 2."

01:03:31.200 --> 01:03:37.520
And Valve keeps holding off

01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:42.160
and I I kind of it's hard for me to disagree with them.

01:03:39.520 --> 01:03:46.960
Now, with that said, I do daily a more powerful handheld. I have an ROG Ally

01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:51.920
that's actually my daily driver, which is crazy because I actually have an Xbox

01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:56.480
ROG Alli X, whatever it's called thing in my house that I don't use because,

01:03:54.079 --> 01:04:01.920
and this is going to be crazy sounding, when I'm playing handheld, I actually

01:03:58.799 --> 01:04:04.640
prefer the flat deck compared to the

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:09.839
like the like erggo grip thing. Or at least I don't prefer the grips enough to

01:04:08.240 --> 01:04:12.880
be worth how much extra space it takes up in my backpack. Do you think it's uh

01:04:11.680 --> 01:04:16.720
Okay, that's a pretty interesting argument. Do you think it's hand size?

01:04:14.799 --> 01:04:21.119
>> I think that's part of it, but I think it's also just like

01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:25.920
>> that the erggo grip thing is like perfect for playing like this. And I

01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:31.039
don't always play like this. >> Okay. >> Sometimes I'm lying on my tummy,

01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:34.640
sometimes I roll over onto my back and and the flat deck just works a little

01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:38.880
better for me. So that ally that I upgraded on ShortCircuit with the JO

01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:44.480
upgraded battery and then the new back on it. So, it's a little bit heavier. Is

01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:46.480
is actually still my preferred handheld

01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:50.079
out of out of all of them. Even though it's like an like an older it's an older

01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:57.039
handheld, sir, but it checks out. You know, >> my f I I I never played it laying down

01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:59.280
looking up. Um, but my my favorite for

01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:02.400
ergonomics handheld, if you can even call it that, was that the the Wii U

01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:06.319
controller. >> Oh, yeah. >> I really liked >> Oh, yeah.

01:05:04.720 --> 01:05:09.119
>> the the like feel. That's one of the reasons why I was like a little

01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:13.920
frustrated with the Switch when it first came out was I was like,

01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:16.240
I get it. The Wii U controller is really bulky cuz it was set up for a home

01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:21.440
console, but >> the Switch like practically pocketable by comparison like

01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.520
>> but it just it didn't feel like my my hands were very cramped on the original

01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:29.200
Switch. >> Yeah. >> I mean, my hands were cramped on the original Switch.

01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:34.240
>> Okay. Okay. With that said, there is there is a handheld that uh you know it

01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:38.000
is is next generation in terms of performance, but you would be spending

01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:43.440
>> Yeah. >> Here, hold on. What is a Win Five go for

01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:49.760
right now? Here it is. gpdstore.net. Okay, nine reviews. Okay, people

01:05:46.640 --> 01:05:50.880
mostly are pretty into it. Okay, that's

01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:55.839
good to know. This guy's a little disappointed, but still gave it three stars.

01:05:54.160 --> 01:05:58.400
All right, what's a win five worth right now?

01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:08.079
two grand. That's not even the top configuration. That is the base

01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:09.440
configuration. One terabte of storage.

01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:16.319
That's actually the one that's the most painful to me. Like, okay, I want two terabytes of exc Sorry, excuse me.

01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:20.640
Another $400. >> Storage is so ridiculous right now.

01:06:17.839 --> 01:06:26.160
>> Um, that's rough. I want to go to a Ryzen Max 395. Oh. Oh, that'll be Sorry.

01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:30.720
That'll be $2,800, sir. Also, oh, okay. You also get I mean, honest. Oh, wow.

01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:36.799
Okay. Well, I would take I would certainly take the 64 gigs of RAM, 2 TB

01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:40.319
storage, and the better CPU over the uh

01:06:36.799 --> 01:06:42.400
4 TB, 32, and then lower CPU because uh

01:06:40.319 --> 01:06:46.240
these ones, it's not just the CPU that's that's worse for this one. It's also the

01:06:43.839 --> 01:06:51.039
GPU. So, this is the more powerful GPU. So, yeah. Yeah, you're spending uh

01:06:48.640 --> 01:06:55.760
$2,800 US >> for a handheld

01:06:52.319 --> 01:06:58.240
>> and and it's barely handheld, dude. It

01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:02.480
has like this like battery pack thing that weighs a flipping ton that clips

01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:06.319
onto the back of it or how I usually ended up using it was with the weird

01:07:04.240 --> 01:07:09.359
tether. Yeah, the te especially the tether. If you're like commuting on a

01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:14.160
train or something with a lot of your time, which I suspect a lot of handheld

01:07:12.160 --> 01:07:18.400
bros are >> commuting on trains or buses or

01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:21.920
whatever, I could see that being fine to be honest. >> Yeah. So, here's the tether. It's

01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:26.559
>> Oh, >> it's pretty >> That's weirder than I expected to be.

01:07:24.720 --> 01:07:29.839
>> Because it's just the battery. >> It looks like it was for like a platform

01:07:28.240 --> 01:07:34.880
or something. Am I seeing that wrong in the picture? So, this is the clip

01:07:31.359 --> 01:07:37.119
interface here that sticks onto

01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:40.480
the battery interface that is on the back of this battery and is on the back

01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:43.920
of the machine and then it just like goes to an umbilical cord to the back of

01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:47.839
the thing. So, it can be like this or it can be like this. And so, yeah, is there

01:07:46.799 --> 01:07:52.480
something better than the Steam Deck? Like, yeah, there's lots of things that are better than the Steam Deck in some

01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:58.720
way, but there is, in my opinion, nothing

01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:02.480
that is better than the Steam Deck in every way.

01:08:00.640 --> 01:08:08.240
And that's that's tough. That makes it tough for me to recommend something. And

01:08:05.839 --> 01:08:12.480
it without like knowing you and knowing exactly what you're after. And I can see

01:08:10.160 --> 01:08:18.960
why it makes it tough for Valve to go, "Okay, here's Steam Deck 2."

01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:21.040
>> Yeah. and especially now amidst the apocalypse.

01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:23.920
>> Yeah, I don't blame Valve for waiting at all. I think it makes sense. I think it makes sense.

01:08:22.719 --> 01:08:28.159
>> Um >> I think my time I I'm like I've already

01:08:26.719 --> 01:08:35.560
kind of convinced myself I'm going to buy a Steam Deck 2 when they get

01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:35.560
announced like right off the hop. Um

01:08:35.759 --> 01:08:42.080
>> I I feel like it's too late to get one now. Yet out of all of them, that's the

01:08:40.400 --> 01:08:47.040
one that I want right now, if that makes sense. So I have I have my Switch 2. I'm

01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:50.480
just going to hang on to that. I was contemplating selling it, but no, I'm

01:08:48.480 --> 01:08:54.239
just going to hang on to that. And then uh when the when the Steam Deck 2

01:08:52.480 --> 01:09:00.319
finally comes out, I'm assuming it's going to be another like two years. Um

01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:02.319
hopefully not much more than that. >> I think two years sounds about right.

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:07.600
>> Yeah, >> cuz by then we'll be like well into Steam Machine and Steam Frame life

01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:13.120
cycle. So, they'll have had some time because realistically,

01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:16.480
ain't no way that the Steam Machine,

01:09:13.120 --> 01:09:19.120
Steam Frame team is not pivoting to

01:09:16.480 --> 01:09:23.520
Steam Deck 2 once they're done. So, give them a year to get everything kind of

01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:27.440
going with those. >> Yeah. >> And then there's no way that they don't

01:09:25.759 --> 01:09:32.000
get some resources for Steam Deck 2 and then make that happen. >> Oh, hi Josh posted, "Uh, do you play

01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:37.759
games that are too much for Steam Deck? It might still be worth it." That is

01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:40.480
a super interesting question that I've I've had some conversations with

01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:44.400
actually some people in the Labs about of like >> that's a super fair point. If you want

01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:47.040
to play Batro, >> if it's a Battro machine anyways,

01:09:46.719 --> 01:09:53.440
>> do it >> then who cares? What does it matter? >> Um it could be a fun video for for you

01:09:51.120 --> 01:09:59.840
guys to make is like the Steam Deck however many years later. 95% No, not

01:09:56.320 --> 01:10:02.400
95, but like 85% of my hours on my Ally

01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:04.239
or Steam Deck over the years are tape to tape.

01:10:03.120 --> 01:10:10.239
>> I al I also Yeah, >> I could have played that on anything. >> Yeah. Another angle, and this was not my

01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:13.760
idea. I don't remember who said it, but um maybe it was even you. I I have

01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:19.120
genuinely no memory of who said this, but um

01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:25.360
somehow get like the original or close to the original version of Steam OS on

01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:27.760
it and compare the performance then to

01:10:25.360 --> 01:10:31.920
now. I don't know if we benchmarked it at the time.

01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:35.280
>> I don't really think so. Uh there'd be >> someone might have

01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:40.159
>> there'd be so many variables. I think someone might have actually done this.

01:10:38.080 --> 01:10:45.280
>> Oh, maybe. I don't know. Um, wasn't it NVIDIA only though? And like I think

01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:48.719
maybe you could like hack in Radeon support. I I I don't remember the

01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:52.480
details well enough. I'd have to they they should >> for the Steam Deck.

01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:55.120
>> For the Steam No, no. I'm talking original Steam OS.

01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:59.360
>> No, I'm not. >> Oh, you mean Steam OS 3, but like the

01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:02.159
first version of Steam OS 3? >> I meant Yeah, the first version for the

01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:08.239
Steam Deck. >> Got it. I thought you meant like >> I didn't say that. That's my bad. Sorry.

01:11:05.040 --> 01:11:10.239
the one from like 14 years ago no or 10

01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:14.960
years ago. That would be a little I I more mean like what performance changes

01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:18.239
have hap like deep diving. >> What is it like to own a Steam Deck this

01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:21.679
many years in? I think would be kind of fun. So like how much performance gain

01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:26.000
have you had from updates or lack thereof? Who knows? Uh but I think it

01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:30.080
would be gain. Um how is your like hey let's look at like

01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:36.080
the the top 10 games that are compatible with Steam Deck in terms of players

01:11:32.080 --> 01:11:37.679
right now. How well is it performing um

01:11:36.080 --> 01:11:41.040
on the Steam Deck? Like, is this still a highly viable device for most people?

01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:46.000
Stuff like that. I think it'd be kind of fun, a little interesting. >> I I think it's a cool idea. We have so

01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:51.600
many video ideas on the doc. The >> issue is BIOS updates would be difficult to downgrade. Yeah, we'd have to try to

01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:54.159
find like an unboxed one or something. It wouldn't be an easy thing to do.

01:11:53.840 --> 01:12:00.000
>> Yeah. >> Uh but it could be kind of fun. I feel like that's the kind of thing that

01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:03.280
Valve, if they weren't so flipping busy right now, might even be interested in

01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:07.360
helping us with. >> Like, hey, could you guys we just can we

01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:11.760
ship you a Steam Deck and can you please put it back in? Like, there's no way they don't have it somewhere.

01:12:10.080 --> 01:12:14.960
>> My my expectation is that there's actually been some pretty massive jumps

01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:18.560
in performance looking at like the things that have happened gaming ever

01:12:17.120 --> 01:12:24.400
since the original launch. So, that could be like honestly a really good

01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:26.880
>> thing for them to have. Something that'd

01:12:24.400 --> 01:12:32.560
be a good thing for us to have is a more coherent strategy for how we're

01:12:29.120 --> 01:12:37.440
transitioning to the WAN Show channel.

01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:40.320
I think we may have to just

01:12:37.440 --> 01:12:44.000
pull the plug on streaming WN show to LTT because right now it's causing a lot

01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:48.640
of confusion for people. we go live and we have a separate VOD on the Linus Tech

01:12:47.360 --> 01:12:52.880
Tips channel and on the WAN Show channel. And I got to say, I'm actually

01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:56.320
surprised and impressed with how much of the community has flipped over to Wan

01:12:54.719 --> 01:13:00.480
Show channel. It's almost >> it's not quite 50/50, but it's like

01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:04.960
getting there a lot faster than I thought. So, W show Channel

01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:08.719
>> 5 uh views. >> That's views. Okay.

01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:14.239
>> The live one is the far left one. >> Yep. Okay. >> Yeah. So, I think we we might just have

01:13:11.679 --> 01:13:18.480
to like we might just have to do it sometime soon here. Um

01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:21.760
>> I didn't foresee this, but it totally

01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:24.960
makes sense. The second someone told me like, "Oh, there's there's two in my

01:13:23.440 --> 01:13:29.040
feed. This sucks." I was like, "Oh, right." >> Yeah. I'm I'm really sorry. We we do

01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:33.920
need to co stream for a little while. But guys, uh if you are watching on

01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:38.880
Linus Tech Tips channel right now, please sooner rather than later, get

01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:42.159
subscribed over on the WAN Show. So go go go look for the channel. It used to

01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:45.920
be the LMG clips channel. We rebranded it. Go subscribe over on the WAN Show.

01:13:44.320 --> 01:13:50.880
We got to get everybody moved over there sooner rather than later or you will not

01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:55.840
see WAN Show anymore. And the reason for it is it's a business reason. Uh Luke

01:13:53.280 --> 01:14:00.080
and I are now 50% co-owners of the WAN Show, which means it's got to get off of

01:13:57.280 --> 01:14:05.280
the LT channel in order to secure its long-term future. Thank you, WAN Show,

01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:09.199
for your service. Um, all right. Let's jump right into our next topic here,

01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:12.520
which is >> Oh, lord.

01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:20.239
Should we do it? Let's talk about it.

01:14:16.080 --> 01:14:22.640
AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X3D2

01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:28.159
dual edition launch. If you were wondering how the chip performs, uh,

01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:31.199
it's virtually identical to a 9800 X3D

01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:33.040
or 9950 X3D in gaming. It got a four to

01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:37.199
5% improvement in productivity workloads, like kind of creator focused

01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:41.600
stuff. And in some science workloads, it did even better than that. But for most

01:14:39.120 --> 01:14:46.159
people, it doesn't really make sense unless you see it as maybe kind of like

01:14:43.120 --> 01:14:48.320
a like a budget workstation CPU for

01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:52.960
folks who can't afford the a Threadripper um and also don't need the PCIe

01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:56.719
lanes and also don't need the, you know, insane memory bandwidth of Threadripper

01:14:54.880 --> 01:15:02.320
and don't need the upgrade path to many many many more cores.

01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:06.239
don't need, you know, registered dims. They just can use ECCU dims. There's a

01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:13.960
lot of compromises using it as a budget workstation. But there is an argument to

01:15:07.679 --> 01:15:13.960
be made there. Of course, with such a um

01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:24.000
sorry, excuse me, uh interesting launch. Naturally, the more um exciting

01:15:21.679 --> 01:15:29.440
component of it in the community has been the discourse around AMD's sampling

01:15:28.480 --> 01:15:33.360
strategy, which >> you can tell the CPU was not super

01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:41.040
interesting. >> Well, can you because some reviewers

01:15:36.719 --> 01:15:42.480
felt that they were uh left out. You

01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:46.440
know what? I'm just going to read the thing. Um,

01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:53.280
in our communications with AMD, we were told that they had limited units and

01:15:51.440 --> 01:15:59.440
wanted to focus on developers before sending units to reviewers. That seems

01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:00.960
to be that a message that did not quite

01:15:59.440 --> 01:16:06.560
line up with their strategy because some very gaming focused channels like hardware unboxed were provided with

01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:11.120
samples. This confusion has led some to assume that AMD was preferentially

01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:14.960
seeding to friendly reviewers or even blacklisting certain publications. Uh

01:16:13.360 --> 01:16:21.679
Tech PowerUp noted that even retail partners had received instructions specifically to not provide any units to

01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:25.679
publications for review. Um sourcing review units from retailers is a pretty

01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:30.320
common practice and has at times been approved by AMD uh in the past. Igor's

01:16:29.040 --> 01:16:35.199
lab criticized how this sort of selective sampling hurts consumers because they don't have access to the

01:16:33.360 --> 01:16:41.840
broad amount of data they usually would to make an informed decision. Um, one of

01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:46.320
our fellow channels in the industry released a video stating they believe

01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:49.199
they've been blacklisted by AMD. Uh,

01:16:46.320 --> 01:16:55.120
this came from GN who said AMD excluded us not only from sampling but from

01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:56.719
information about the announcement. Um

01:16:55.120 --> 01:17:03.199
they also noted that they have been moved to a third-party PR agency rather

01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:05.840
than communicating with AMD directly. So

01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:09.360
as for our side uh we also are communicating with AMD through a third

01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:12.960
party agency. The agency did get in touch uh and they did answer some

01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:18.960
technical questions before launch. They were not timely about it and they did

01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:21.760
not provide us with a chip. Um

01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:25.520
I have been I have in my notes how we got our chip. that apparently fell off

01:17:23.280 --> 01:17:30.960
the back of a truck just outside of Smash Champs, um our our affiliated

01:17:28.480 --> 01:17:39.360
badminton club. So, that's really fortunate actually. Um and in summary,

01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:42.000
no, AMD did not blacklist anybody

01:17:39.360 --> 01:17:44.880
because we didn't get a chip. Basically, this comes down to their sampling

01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:50.000
strategy was different for >> sampling strategy was some reason >> weird.

01:17:47.360 --> 01:17:55.360
>> What it looks like to me is regional. So outside of the North America region,

01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:57.040
YouTubers seem to have gotten samples

01:17:55.360 --> 01:18:03.120
and then within the North America region, it looks like they went for more

01:17:59.040 --> 01:18:06.560
written media for reasons that are AMDs

01:18:03.120 --> 01:18:09.199
and AMDs alone. I have not seen any

01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:12.320
evidence that AMD is selectively seeding to publications that are more likely to

01:18:11.440 --> 01:18:20.000
be favorable. >> Big company problems to you. >> Oh, 100%. So, so one region's office had

01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:23.360
a strategy and it didn't necessarily match other regions.

01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:29.520
>> That's what it kind of looks like to me because obviously we are not blacklisted

01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:33.840
by AMD. I mean, we partner with AMD on a very

01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:35.679
>> regular basis. They literally buy $5,000

01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:40.159
tech upgrades for, you know, our employees homes. Like, we're we're in

01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:47.120
constant communication with AMD, but we were told, "Yeah, we're not we're not

01:18:42.480 --> 01:18:50.080
seating this CPU to you." Um,

01:18:47.120 --> 01:18:54.800
so I don't know, man. There other than just, hey, big companies do big company

01:18:53.280 --> 01:18:59.840
things sometimes, I don't think there's there's too much to read into this one.

01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:04.880
>> Seems like a weird move. I I'm not like crazy surprised just because I suspect

01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:12.400
they probably kind of knew how this news would go. Um, but in general, I would

01:19:09.040 --> 01:19:16.640
still, you know, I would still like to

01:19:12.400 --> 01:19:18.560
see all of the CPUs go to CPU reviewers.

01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:22.080
>> Yes. And I mean, but it's all, it's never even been a thing.

01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:25.520
>> Like, think back to like how Intel has done their seating for a lot of their

01:19:23.679 --> 01:19:29.199
like series launches where they sent like this chip and this chip and

01:19:27.440 --> 01:19:32.800
sometimes it really seems like like self-owning. Like remember when they

01:19:30.719 --> 01:19:35.920
launched Core Ultra on the desktop and they sent us like the the worst ones? I

01:19:35.120 --> 01:19:42.159
sure do. >> And we're just like, "Hey, do you want to sell these or not?" Because these

01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:44.640
ones are clearly the cool ones. And we literally can't put them on our

01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:48.880
benchmark charts because y'all didn't seed them to us. >> That was super weird.

01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:56.159
>> Like, man, I don't know, man. Big companies do big company like dumb stuff

01:19:51.360 --> 01:19:58.400
all the time. And um

01:19:56.159 --> 01:20:04.640
maybe I'm just Maybe I'm just used to it.

01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:07.520
Maybe it it's this this does seem like

01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:09.360
I don't know. X3D specifically.

01:20:08.480 --> 01:20:14.880
>> Yeah. >> Has like a very

01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:19.040
alluring pull to the to the tech enthusiast crowd. I feel like not

01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:23.840
including it to video or written reviewers

01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:26.719
is a little bit odd. And again, I understand that this chip is also a

01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:32.320
little bit odd. >> Yeah. >> So, like maybe it's fine, but just with

01:20:29.679 --> 01:20:35.760
the naming it. Yeah. If I was AMD, I'll be honest with you, knowing what I know

01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:40.880
about this chip, I might have seated it to like >> I might have just done it.

01:20:38.080 --> 01:20:47.040
>> Wendle and Feronics and then just like not bothered outside of that. Yeah,

01:20:44.400 --> 01:20:51.440
>> cuz I because I I I might be I might be interested in the perspective of someone

01:20:48.719 --> 01:20:55.520
who's, you know, more attuned to the to the the enterprise space and then

01:20:53.600 --> 01:21:02.400
someone who's like hyper attuned to like the Linux and and like scientific space

01:20:59.040 --> 01:21:04.159
and then realistically, yeah, it's X3D

01:21:02.400 --> 01:21:07.120
and you're going to you're going to you're going to throw that in the

01:21:05.440 --> 01:21:12.800
marketing because marketers got to market and they're going to want to sell it to gamers because that's how big

01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:17.280
company do things. But in terms of like caring about gaming outlets making a

01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:22.320
review of it, I'd probably have like zero zero cares.

01:21:19.280 --> 01:21:25.040
>> Yeah. I mean, based on the benchmarking

01:21:22.320 --> 01:21:28.159
that happened, it's like Yeah, I would probably agree with you if

01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:32.320
they knew what was going on there. >> Yeah. And I mean, obviously a company

01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:35.600
like AMD knows what their chip is before they release it, which actually I

01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:39.760
shouldn't even say. Sometimes you do. Sometimes you really do have brands tell

01:21:38.080 --> 01:21:44.000
you they're like, "Oh, hey, so do you love it?" and you're kind of like, "No,

01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:48.239
it's slow and expensive." And they're like, "What?"

01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:53.520
>> It's it's fascinating to me. That's just marketing

01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:55.360
PR teams being disconnected from technical.

01:21:54.639 --> 01:22:01.440
>> It's got to be >> that's usually the the understanding for me cuz like you remember the whole uh

01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:05.679
backplate thing. Was it gigabyte? I think it was gigabyte. >> Gigabyte with that GPU

01:22:04.080 --> 01:22:12.159
>> and the and the the board was like, "How could you?" And then the technical people were like, "Yeah, we knew." Yeah,

01:22:10.400 --> 01:22:15.120
>> we didn't tell them that. They just put that in the marketing.

01:22:13.440 --> 01:22:17.040
>> Yeah. When they had like some kind of misleading marketing on their product

01:22:16.639 --> 01:22:25.120
page. >> Yeah. They said their copper back plate cooled the GPU by 3°. And it turns out

01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:30.000
that just having no back plate also cooled it by 3°. It was just their old

01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:33.760
back plate warmed the card by 3° because

01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:36.960
it was so bad. Um, so it was it was

01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:39.760
Yeah. Anyways, whatever.

01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:46.639
>> You know what's not bad, though? LTT tools casually getting reviews on

01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:49.360
like PC Gamer. What the heck? This came out of nowhere for me.

01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:53.040
>> What? >> Right. >> PC Gamer. Do they have they reviewed any

01:22:52.080 --> 01:22:58.560
other tools? >> I don't know. LTD ratcheting screwdriver

01:22:56.400 --> 01:23:03.920
and precision pro multi-bit screwdriver review. Serious tools by Jacob Ridley

01:23:01.440 --> 01:23:07.520
published not on April 1st, but actually on April the 8th. So, this was pretty

01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:13.840
sweet. Yeah, this was a little while ago, but I just thought this was pretty

01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:16.320
cool. And it actually included an

01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:21.199
anecdote about an experience. I don't remember meeting Jacob, but uh

01:23:18.639 --> 01:23:28.800
apparently we've we've at least crossed paths at some point because um

01:23:25.120 --> 01:23:32.000
apparently this was this was his his

01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:34.159
expectation from me. I wasn't sure what

01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:38.320
to expect upon opening the YouTuber branded boxes. Having once upon a time

01:23:36.480 --> 01:23:42.880
been at the same booth at a show as Lionus, as he was loudly disagreeing

01:23:40.639 --> 01:23:46.480
with someone about quality control, I had a pretty good feeling about the

01:23:44.480 --> 01:23:50.960
quality of the screwdrivers before they arrived. That was a good assumption,

01:23:49.120 --> 01:23:55.679
too, as now they're in front of me. They feel sturdy and well put together.

01:23:53.280 --> 01:24:01.840
>> That's funny. That's pretty good. It was it's an interesting paragraph that

01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:04.000
really highlights I think why sometimes

01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:08.800
we do take what feels like a disproportionate amount of flak

01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:11.120
sometimes when we make a mistake because

01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:15.120
>> that's what we do is we we point out things that are not good enough and when

01:24:13.360 --> 01:24:19.280
our job is to point out things that are not good enough for a living then people

01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:24.000
expect us to do the same bloody thing internally and it's uh it's funny

01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:27.920
because sometimes it would be easy to think about

01:24:25.280 --> 01:24:30.159
something like that and go, you know, oh, that's that's too much

01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:34.719
pressure. I wouldn't want to work somewhere like that. But you know what's

01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:39.679
cool is I think our team actually embraces it

01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:45.280
in like a big way. Sorry, I'm not laughing at you. Um, yeah. No, I think

01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:46.880
so. I think they do. Sometimes our

01:24:45.280 --> 01:24:49.840
product development timelines are also really long, but this is probably part

01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:57.600
of why. Yeah, >> at least part of why. >> Oh, dude. Dude,

01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:58.719
dude, there's a product coming.

01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:03.120
>> The battery bank. >> No. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah.

01:25:01.040 --> 01:25:07.360
>> Say you you put it in a video. You don't have to be >> I tried the prototype.

01:25:05.360 --> 01:25:09.120
>> I have no idea what he's talking about. >> Yeah, you do.

01:25:08.400 --> 01:25:12.159
>> I do. >> It's the one.

01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:21.440
>> Really? >> Come on, man. >> Really? >> I tried the prototype. It [ __ ] slaps,

01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:24.080
dude. It's crazy. >> Oh, that one.

01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:27.600
>> Oh, yeah. >> You're that hyped about it, >> dude.

01:25:27.040 --> 01:25:32.800
>> Okay. >> It's nuts. >> Hell yeah. >> I want to quadruple the order. Like,

01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:34.719
dude, that really, dude, >> I don't even know what the quantity was.

01:25:34.320 --> 01:25:39.520
I want >> That's really exciting for me. Just cuz I I I I feel like I can't spoil it, but

01:25:38.639 --> 01:25:45.120
there's there's >> Oh, we can't say it. It's >> for the same reasons that he's really

01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:48.560
excited. I'm really excited. >> Have Did you try it? Did you try it?

01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:52.080
>> No, I >> No, no. I'm talking to him. I I don't know what he thinks.

01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:58.000
>> No comment. >> No, but did you try it? >> I don't know if I have one or not.

01:25:55.920 --> 01:26:01.360
>> No, you don't have one. You might be thinking of something else.

01:25:59.440 --> 01:26:03.360
>> There's only one. So, nobody has one except someone

01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:06.880
>> then. No. >> Okay. Okay. No, don't worry. Forget forget about Dan. Forget about Dan.

01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:13.199
>> I have not. >> We'll never forget about Dan. We love Dan, but just >> in this context.

01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:14.000
>> In this Yeah. For for now. For now.

01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:19.840
>> It's um >> Dude, >> I'm I'm very happy to hear that for a

01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:22.560
huge variety of reasons. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I'll leave it there.

01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:25.360
>> Anyway, the point is we have a really passionate team and we and we kind of we

01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:28.960
embrace those challenges. Anyway, >> the timeline for that is like

01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:34.560
>> it's tight. >> Yeah. >> It's going to be crazy. >> Yeah. >> Knock on wood. Knock on wood. Yeah.

01:26:32.320 --> 01:26:36.800
>> Um anyway, the PC gamer review. I I thought it was pretty fair. Um

01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:41.280
>> Cool. >> I think there were Yeah, I think there was like one thing that I I was like,

01:26:40.080 --> 01:26:45.679
"Oh, I think you might have kind of overlooked that, but it was like super

01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:48.400
super minor." Um and I thought they Yeah, I thought they did a pretty good

01:26:47.040 --> 01:26:53.840
job. They compared it to sort of, you know, obvious things like the iFixit

01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:56.000
Protect Toolkit. Um, anyway, thanks Jacob for taking the

01:26:55.440 --> 01:27:00.639
time. >> Sweet. >> Appreciate you.

01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:04.159
>> Uh, what do we want to talk about next? We're supposed to do another topic.

01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:07.520
>> It is not the cobbar hammer. And guys, that is a >> never happening.

01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:13.120
>> That is a never happening situation. >> Oh yeah, never happening.

01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:19.760
Uh, every SKH Highix employee could

01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:24.080
I think that's a bold could, but could receive it might happen. Uh, could

01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:29.360
receive $477,000 bonuses this year.

01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:34.000
Almost 900,000 next year. Apparently 35,000

01:27:31.120 --> 01:27:39.120
workers are set out to benefit from a share of

01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:41.520
169 billion in projected operating

01:27:39.120 --> 01:27:46.480
profit for the year. SK Hanx agreed last September to remove its previous bonus

01:27:43.679 --> 01:27:50.639
caps. hilarious timing and allocate 10% of annual operating profit directly to

01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:58.080
employees as performance bonuses with analysts forecasting around 250 trillion

01:27:54.560 --> 01:28:01.199
one or 169 billion I'm assuming US

01:27:58.080 --> 01:28:03.920
dollars in operating profit for 2026.

01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:10.800
That works out to roughly the previously mentioned 477,000 per employee across

01:28:07.280 --> 01:28:13.679
its 35,000 person workforce on top of

01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:18.320
the $95,000 in profit sharing already paid out in February. If profits keep

01:28:16.400 --> 01:28:23.960
climbing, bonuses could hit nearly $900,000 per person next year.

01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:31.120
The AI boom The AI boom is driving all this. Demand for HBM memory chips used

01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:35.520
in AI accelerators has sent memory prices through record highs and SKHENX

01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:41.040
is the dominant supplier. The company's transparent bonus formula has become a

01:28:38.480 --> 01:28:45.040
recruiting weapon against Samsung which is now facing its own crisis with over

01:28:43.679 --> 01:28:49.280
so this is the thing that I thought we were originally talking about for some reason which I which is why I said

01:28:47.679 --> 01:28:54.719
maybe. I guess the previous stuff is pretty locked in. The maybe stuff is is

01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:58.320
is this. So sorry I I I had the wrong

01:28:54.719 --> 01:29:01.040
reaction there. Samsung's union uh

01:28:58.320 --> 01:29:05.440
>> over 30,000 Samsung Union members are demanding a similar deal

01:29:03.040 --> 01:29:11.199
>> with a strike a strike date set for May 21st. That's

01:29:08.400 --> 01:29:16.719
crazy. A strike right now could seriously hurt earning potential. This

01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:20.960
is this is very interesting to watch. Samsung's union is pushing for 15% of

01:29:19.120 --> 01:29:27.120
operating profit, pointing out that their bonuses currently amount to less

01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:29.120
than 30% of what uh comparable SKH

01:29:27.120 --> 01:29:33.040
workers receive. Samsung management countered with 10% which the union

01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:38.159
rejected. >> Dude, this is this is crazy to watch.

01:29:35.040 --> 01:29:40.080
This is like this is some peak tier nut

01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:44.719
>> negotiating. Like remember when we were talking about everything that was going

01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:47.360
on with like SAG AFRA and and like and

01:29:44.719 --> 01:29:50.960
in in Hollywood you know down south and I was talking about like kind of you

01:29:49.040 --> 01:29:54.639
know bold strategy cotton let's see how it works out for them because they were

01:29:52.560 --> 01:30:00.800
striking at a time when >> a lot of studios were actually pairing

01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:03.280
back their productions and losing money on a lot of big tentpole projects and

01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:08.960
like >> this is the hard opposite of that scenario.

01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:15.120
>> This is the timing you want. Yeah, >> you're a specialized worker

01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:16.639
in something that is absolutely

01:30:15.120 --> 01:30:24.080
banging. >> There is a place making record profits

01:30:19.040 --> 01:30:25.840
that could definitely hire you in uh

01:30:24.080 --> 01:30:28.639
>> Yeah, they could could very easily definitely hire you and and I think they

01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:34.880
are. >> Yeah. No, they've been apparently taking

01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:37.120
advantage of this of this situation

01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:41.840
right now because from an SKH heck standpoint,

01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:43.840
>> I can see why why not because you're

01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:49.040
going to allocate 10% of your annual operating profit. So what do you care as

01:30:47.360 --> 01:30:54.560
like at the management level? >> A couple of pops. >> No, I just mean what do you care at the

01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:57.760
management level if that 10% is allocated across another thousand

01:30:56.159 --> 01:31:01.600
people? You don't you don't give a [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, >> right. Because no one's going to be

01:31:00.320 --> 01:31:05.840
complaining because as long as the profits go up, their next bonus check will be bigger anyway.

01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:09.360
>> It's going to be so freaking monstrous. >> So if they said that if they spread it

01:31:07.360 --> 01:31:14.960
across more people, they could basically just bleed Samsung dry.

01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:17.960
>> Yeah, that's wild. >> Wild.

01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:25.040
It's this this is going to be this is

01:31:21.679 --> 01:31:28.320
going to be an interesting one.

01:31:25.040 --> 01:31:30.320
>> Yeah. Um, and you know to to your point

01:31:28.320 --> 01:31:34.800
that I think you were getting into again SKH Heinix has nothing to lose here

01:31:32.080 --> 01:31:38.639
because if the bonus quantity is derived from operating profit then when the bust

01:31:37.679 --> 01:31:42.639
inevitably happens >> on the other end of this it just autoscales down.

01:31:41.040 --> 01:31:45.920
>> It autoscales down >> because it's still 10% of annual

01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:51.520
operating profit but if they're just not profiting as much then it just goes down. So like realistically

01:31:50.080 --> 01:31:55.920
the employees are winning super hard when the company's winning super hard and then when the company isn't super

01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:59.360
winning super hard it'll just it'll automatically kind of correct itself.

01:31:57.520 --> 01:32:02.800
You don't have to have rough conversations with people about how

01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:08.960
their wages are going to go down. It's just >> well we sold less RAM so

01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:12.960
>> there you go. Dude it's it's crazy the kind of scale that these companies work

01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:19.600
on. Yeah. Like the fact that they allocate only 10% of their annual

01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:22.800
operating profit to to like performance

01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:27.040
bonuses. That's like that's crazy. Like

01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:28.880
ratio-wise, we are way above that for

01:32:27.040 --> 01:32:31.520
overall like how much we allocate of our operating profit to to compensation. And

01:32:31.120 --> 01:32:37.280
yet >> this isn't to compensation though. No, it is. It's just performance bonuses.

01:32:35.360 --> 01:32:40.800
>> I know. Oh, but the performance bonuses are like the bulk of their comp now.

01:32:39.120 --> 01:32:45.520
It's it like it's it's crazy. I was looking at the numbers. >> Oh yeah.

01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:51.520
>> So like the fact that the fact that they have

01:32:47.679 --> 01:32:53.040
>> relatively only that amount allocated to

01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:55.679
employee compensation >> that's not true though. That's what I'm

01:32:54.960 --> 01:33:03.520
saying. >> It's a little more basically is is what it amounts to. So like that and a little

01:32:59.920 --> 01:33:08.560
more allocated and they're able to pay

01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:12.960
out base salary plus $477,000

01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:14.800
per employee. Like the amount of money

01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:18.800
that memory manufacturing is making right now >> crazy

01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:23.600
>> is flipping insane. >> Yeah. Yeah.

01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:27.679
>> Flipping insane. >> And sorry that last number was slightly

01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:34.840
wrong. It's actually over 500,000 because that 477,000 was on top of

01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:34.840
95,000 already. Like

01:33:36.400 --> 01:33:42.400
it's the these wafers, right? If you if

01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:46.159
you got the bad license to print money, Luke. >> Yeah. Imagine getting a like you're

01:33:44.639 --> 01:33:50.600
you're just out of school and you get a job at one of these companies right now.

01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:57.520
>> That's it. I'm moving to Seoul. >> See you later.

01:33:54.800 --> 01:34:02.639
>> Hey guys, I can do something. I swear. >> Yeah, I I I could I could I could do PR.

01:34:00.480 --> 01:34:05.760
I could do PR for SKHEX. I could be I could be their video guy.

01:34:04.480 --> 01:34:10.960
>> Uh oh, okay. Sure. >> Yeah. >> I don't know about PR.

01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:15.440
>> Yeah. No, >> you could do media.

01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:19.600
>> We could change our company. Hey. Hey, we could do what that shoe company did.

01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:23.280
We raise a bunch of money and we do uh we do uh Rod's idea, Linus Memory Group.

01:34:22.719 --> 01:34:29.120
>> There you go. >> Yeah. >> There you go. >> We'll we'll build a fab. Just give me a small loan of a billion dollars and then

01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:32.480
we'll we'll we'll go we'll build a memory fab. We got this. >> Well, isn't their whole thing? They're

01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:36.080
not even building the fab. They're just like acquiring the hardware for you. So,

01:34:34.639 --> 01:34:38.239
if you're building a fab and you need a bunch of GPUs, they will like get it for

01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:43.199
you. >> The shoe company. >> Yeah, I think that was >> I think I think they're building I think

01:34:41.679 --> 01:34:47.120
they want to build data centers and then like just lease access to them like

01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:50.719
everyone in the Have they Have they crashed yet? Is that over?

01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:55.199
>> Who knows? >> Was it? >> Hold on. Birds.

01:34:53.840 --> 01:35:00.920
>> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Okay.

01:34:56.880 --> 01:35:00.920
>> So, here was the thing. NO.

01:35:01.120 --> 01:35:06.560
>> SO, YEAH, they spiked to uh $17 and

01:35:04.480 --> 01:35:12.000
they're all the way down to seven now. Um, that's going to keep going. That

01:35:08.719 --> 01:35:13.440
this is not financial advice, but that's

01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:19.199
going to that's going to keep going in that direction in case anyone was wondering.

01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:23.440
>> So, there's like one stock that makes any amount of sense on the stock market.

01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:28.880
Yeah, I'm going for that's going to be the one that actually performs according

01:35:26.320 --> 01:35:32.080
to its its basic fundamentals. >> I believe you.

01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:35.520
>> Not financial advice. Not financial advice. >> Financial advice. Thank you very much,

01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:38.400
>> Dan. Don't think I don't see what you type in chat.

01:35:37.120 --> 01:35:42.080
>> What? Apart from a bull >> goes, Lionus is a bear confirmed.

01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:45.760
>> Well, you're you're saying that it's going down. >> Yeah. Don't think I don't know what that

01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:49.120
means, though. >> Just because I use a double undonder

01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:54.800
doesn't mean that it's not true financially.

01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:59.480
Not not financial advice. Not employment

01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:59.480
advice either. Call your boss a bear.

01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:04.360
>> You're too skinny.

01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:14.719
>> Dude, I weigh now. >> God. >> No. I definitely don't have the hair,

01:36:10.639 --> 01:36:15.280
>> but I I I like weigh a lot now. I'm 174

01:36:14.719 --> 01:36:18.639
lbs now. >> Take creatine way more. >> Take more. I don't want to weigh more

01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:22.159
than this. >> Way more. >> Way more. >> No. Oh, I don't want to way more than

01:36:21.440 --> 01:36:27.920
this. >> Mass maxing Lionus. >> No, I don't. We don't need that.

01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:32.239
>> Thighs as thick as anything. >> Yeah. >> Tree trunk.

01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:35.040
>> Thighs bigger than her or not. >> Bigger than Taylor Swift.

01:36:33.679 --> 01:36:40.159
>> No, I don't think of >> you want to win this or No, >> I don't. It's not a competition.

01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:45.520
>> Honestly, I Twitter. It's not a competition. Twitter energy.

01:36:41.280 --> 01:36:47.360
>> Lionus watermelon crushing tips. Yeah,

01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:52.080
>> that should be next year's April Fools as you relaunch the only fans and it's

01:36:49.440 --> 01:36:55.960
just videos of you crushing watermelons >> leggings for men.

01:36:56.159 --> 01:37:03.199
>> Leggings that have like padded >> they're like 5 foot areas.

01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:07.600
>> They they're like for normal people like they would not fit around the waist.

01:37:05.679 --> 01:37:11.199
>> We'd have to create like a low friction space age material between the thighs so

01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:14.800
that they don't wear out from all the like >> That's what Yeah. Yeah. All right, I'm

01:37:13.360 --> 01:37:18.800
into it. Oh, I thought you meant padding. Just so that when you're crushing watermelons, like you know,

01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:22.080
it's it doesn't hurt. You know, it wouldn't hurt. Oh, sorry. I Okay, we

01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:26.960
were I understand what you're saying now. We were not talking about the same thing. >> Yeah. You know, on like elementary

01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:31.280
school, you had those planners with the cover that went like when you ran your

01:37:29.040 --> 01:37:35.199
nails over it. Put one of those on in the inside of each thigh so that when

01:37:32.639 --> 01:37:40.000
you walk it's like >> Dude, that would be the like most ' 90s

01:37:37.280 --> 01:37:44.080
parachute pants like put little 3Ds on them too. Just your

01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:47.119
face going back and forth. That'd be great. >> Write that down. Write that down.

01:37:46.080 --> 01:37:51.679
>> No, we're not writing any of this. >> You won't gain that much though. And then in in a lot of cases, you you lose

01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:54.000
it afterwards. >> All right. >> You should take it anyways. >> All right. All right. You should take

01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:58.320
it. >> You'll do better at Babmon. >> Might also help your brain.

01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:03.080
>> Not medical advice. >> What are you saying? >> Not medical advice. >> Yeah,

01:38:03.360 --> 01:38:07.199
>> it's actually true. I don't. But I have read some papers, but I still don't

01:38:06.639 --> 01:38:11.119
know. >> We should probably tell you about our sponsors for the show today. Thank you

01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:16.159
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01:38:14.080 --> 01:38:19.840
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01:38:18.320 --> 01:38:26.400
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01:38:24.719 --> 01:38:30.320
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All right, Luke, you want to pick one? >> Sure. Uh,

01:40:24.719 --> 01:40:32.719
let's see here. >> Pick the rap. Pick the rap. >> Oh, yeah, sure. Uh, LTT rap. A month

01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:39.920
ago, we posted a video about Tik Tok hacks, and one of the hacks was uh that

01:40:35.679 --> 01:40:42.880
we looked at was from user rap tech 269

01:40:39.920 --> 01:40:49.360
nice 4, uh, who made a rap about how to use, uh, utilman to, uh, log into a

01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:52.080
locked Windows user account. Well, he's back and this time he has one about our

01:40:51.679 --> 01:40:56.960
merch. >> Okay. I'm not gonna play the whole thing just because like I want you guys to

01:40:55.920 --> 01:41:00.719
watch the whole thing. >> Y >> So, I'm only going to play a little bit

01:40:59.040 --> 01:41:04.719
of it. Have you seen this? >> No, I haven't. >> Oh, but I'm giving them a view right now

01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:08.719
anyways. >> Oh my god. Okay, here we go. You ready?

01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:14.560
>> Yeah. See if this works. >> Yes. >> Tech PCs. You know what? I love the

01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:20.159
style. Guilty of too much charisma. >> Hey, L said I got too much charisma on

01:41:17.679 --> 01:41:25.360
site. So he sent me all the gear. Now we going to do it right.

01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:29.159
Build another level. No stripping, no slipping. Every bit.

01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:44.639
>> Is that amazing or what? It's up on YouTube shorts. Yeah, no keys posting it

01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:47.199
in the chat. Like how?

01:41:44.639 --> 01:41:52.360
Luke, do you think even with his help I could

01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:52.360
ever be cool?

01:41:53.679 --> 01:41:58.000
>> What? Dan, say it. >> Somebody posted something funny in chat

01:41:56.880 --> 01:42:05.840
is >> sure they did. >> He might have enough aura that while you

01:42:02.080 --> 01:42:07.760
were with him and with his help,

01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:11.280
>> you might be able to pull it off. But I feel like once he's removed from the

01:42:09.280 --> 01:42:14.480
scenario, you are yet again not cool. Even if he received your help,

01:42:12.639 --> 01:42:17.119
>> so basically I'm received his help. >> With training, I could be posy grade

01:42:16.719 --> 01:42:23.280
cool. >> I think so. >> Okay. >> I think so.

01:42:21.040 --> 01:42:31.520
>> Well, that's fine. I'm just glad that he likes the product. And um I I am I I am

01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:37.119
My life is richer for having watched this video earlier today.

01:42:35.440 --> 01:42:42.639
You guys got You guys got to hear the rest of it. It It doesn't go downhill

01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:49.199
from there. That's That's what I'll say. Uh go go go check it out. Raptech 2694.

01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:53.679
>> Speaking of hopefully not going downhill, Apple names new chief

01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:58.159
executive to replace Tim Cook. >> Apple has announced that Tim Cook will

01:42:55.119 --> 01:43:01.199
step down as CEO on September 1st, 2026.

01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:03.040
and John Turnis, the company's senior

01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:08.639
vice president of hardware engineering since 2021, will be taking over. Cook

01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:13.600
will move to executive chairman. The transition was unanimously approved by

01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:19.040
the board and follows that uh what Apple describes as a long-term succession

01:43:16.080 --> 01:43:24.880
plan. Uh Turnis has been at Apple since 2001, working under both Steve Jobs and

01:43:22.480 --> 01:43:30.880
Cook. He's been the guy behind the hardware side of iPad, AirPods, and

01:43:27.679 --> 01:43:33.360
recent iPhones. Uh, and has taken on an

01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:38.480
increasingly visible role at Apple events in recent years. At 50, he's

01:43:36.239 --> 01:43:44.400
roughly the same age Cook was when he took over in 2021 and roughly onetenth

01:43:42.080 --> 01:43:49.920
of the age of an average world leader. Uh, under Cook's 15-year run, Apple went

01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:54.719
from a $350 billion company to a $4 trillion one. Launched Apple Watch,

01:43:52.320 --> 01:43:59.280
AirPods, Apple Silicon Vision Pro, and built out the services business. The

01:43:57.040 --> 01:44:04.159
biggest challenge waiting for Turnis is widely seen as fixing Apple's struggling

01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:08.480
AI strategy. Uh, which is lag behind competitors.

01:44:07.040 --> 01:44:12.400
>> Interesting. >> I don't agree with that at all. Yeah,

01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:17.199
>> they're going to be fine. I think they're actually probably doing like the

01:44:14.639 --> 01:44:20.960
smartest move in the room, but we'll see how it goes. I I know a bunch of people

01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:24.239
have been saying like, "Oh, oh, but if it like if if someone figures it out,

01:44:22.719 --> 01:44:28.639
they're going to be so far behind." And it's like, >> I don't even think so. With with the

01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:33.360
rate at which models are being open sourced and honestly Apple's hardware is

01:44:32.159 --> 01:44:38.000
for running that >> that too. And the rate at which people

01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:43.360
seem to be very happy to just jump companies constantly, like the the uh

01:44:41.360 --> 01:44:46.639
the the relationship with AI companies and their employees is very very

01:44:45.360 --> 01:44:54.400
tenuous. They're just kind of bouncing around all over the place. If Apple wants to turn it on, I think they

01:44:50.719 --> 01:44:56.239
absolutely can right now. Um and I don't

01:44:54.400 --> 01:45:00.880
think they will right now, and I don't think they should right now. I think

01:44:57.679 --> 01:45:03.679
they are wisely waiting out this insane

01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:09.040
storm of spending, keeping their insane amounts of cash that they have um

01:45:06.480 --> 01:45:12.080
instead of just blowing it all and then when the timing is right, maybe they'll

01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:18.400
step in or maybe they'll have a different solution. Who knows? Maybe they'll get paid money to to use someone

01:45:16.639 --> 01:45:22.639
else's model as like an advertising thing. >> Kind of like when they lost the, you

01:45:20.400 --> 01:45:25.840
know, search engine war or browser war or whatever. Like

01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:27.840
>> Yeah. like maybe they'll find some way to make it work out in their favor

01:45:27.360 --> 01:45:35.600
anyways. >> That does tend to be the Apple way. >> Yeah. >> Don't be first. Just be Apple.

01:45:33.119 --> 01:45:40.400
>> Yeah. So I It doesn't feel like an error to me. It also like it would feel like

01:45:38.080 --> 01:45:44.719
an error if Google wasn't doing it. >> Yeah. >> But it does not feel like an error that

01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:51.280
Apple isn't doing it. >> Yeah. I with that. >> Yeah. Um, we actually, um, this was one

01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:55.920
of those ones where, you know, how we've talked about needing to be more agile as

01:45:54.480 --> 01:46:01.360
a company in our in our video production. Uh, this is one that, um, I

01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:04.560
I sent, uh, this Okay, hold on. We're going to have to we're going to have to

01:46:02.239 --> 01:46:09.360
back up a little bit. Um, >> over on Flow Plane, I was reading

01:46:07.280 --> 01:46:13.760
through one of the reading through the comments on one of the exclusives that

01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:16.800
we did. So there's a video where uh we have this kind of series I guess now

01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:22.800
because I've done it a couple times where I interview uh other executives or

01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:27.199
other leaders here at the company and you know sort of have a business meeting

01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:32.159
on camera just like Luke and I do on WAN Show every week for you guys but with

01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:35.920
different people. And it was actually uh a commenter who was talking about how

01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:41.840
um >> oh I like this comment. I know what one you're talking about actually. You know,

01:46:39.440 --> 01:46:47.280
James and I talked about being kind of a big ship these days and and that being a

01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:54.480
real challenge for us because we've lost some of the agility that we had in the

01:46:49.440 --> 01:46:56.239
past. And Biohazard 4524 says to keep

01:46:54.480 --> 01:47:00.800
James' analogy of them being a big ship that turns slowly, um, what I think they

01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:04.960
would love is to be more like an aircraft carrier. Yes, the massive ship

01:47:03.280 --> 01:47:08.560
turns slowly, but you can launch fast craft and helicopters to go try that new

01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:13.920
thing to be a platform to make quick things doable without going under. And I

01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:17.199
actually immediately screenshotted this and posted this in the executive chat

01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:22.159
and basically went, >> "This is what we need to do. We can't

01:47:19.679 --> 01:47:26.719
stop being a bigger ship than YouTube channels that are literally one person

01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:32.639
or two people or even five people. We were more agile when when we were, you

01:47:30.480 --> 01:47:34.639
know, a dozen people. And that's just inherent. There's more

01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:40.960
>> makes sense. >> There's there's more people who need to know. Um there's more people who need to

01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:45.600
who need to, you know, approve things. It's >> I have had some conversations recently

01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:49.119
>> where we'll we'll talk about like, okay, we could do X, Y, or Z thing. And the

01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:54.080
response will be like, yeah, but then we're gonna have to do this and that and

01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:59.440
this and that and this and that. And I' I've been trying out a response of just

01:47:55.840 --> 01:48:00.960
like what if we just didn't.

01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:09.840
And it's it's kind of fun watching people's brain explode. >> And so, um, so basically I was like,

01:48:05.440 --> 01:48:13.119
okay, but we have to find a way to be

01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:16.080
more agile to get things done quickly

01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:20.239
and and circumvent the process when it's necessary. And uh this Tim Cook

01:48:18.639 --> 01:48:26.560
retirement announcement is actually something that we we went aircraft

01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:28.719
carrier mode on. So we we kept the ship

01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:34.080
going in the direction that it's going and a small team of one of the

01:48:31.280 --> 01:48:39.760
relatively new writers uh on the team. His name is Sean and he put together

01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:43.440
like sort of some key milestones from Cook's career and like kind of a draft

01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:48.960
of what a script might look like. And then I I sat on the plane on the way

01:48:46.400 --> 01:48:53.040
back from the event earlier this week and I banged out a script. We shot it

01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:56.320
the morning I got back in. It was edited today. It's I'm going to review it

01:48:54.960 --> 01:49:03.199
tonight and it goes up I think this weekend. Um and so we're we need to

01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:04.800
start doing a better job of that. And

01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:10.800
the only way to start doing a better job of it is to start doing a better job of

01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:13.280
it. Just [ __ ] do it. And so we're um

01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:16.239
we're putting it in action already. And uh just this was just such a great

01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:22.719
example. I don't remember how we got on this topic even, but this was such a great example of the importance of

01:49:20.320 --> 01:49:27.040
community feedback in what we're doing and how dialed in. It's not just me

01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:32.880
who's who's reading this stuff and who's engaging with you guys. Um it's it's

01:49:31.040 --> 01:49:36.800
lots of people here at the company who just care and just want to make a better

01:49:34.639 --> 01:49:40.719
product. Whether that product is a shirt or whether that product is a video or

01:49:39.040 --> 01:49:44.239
whether it's a streaming platform or whether it's Hey, why don't we

01:49:42.320 --> 01:49:48.400
transition into another topic here and let's have a look at some of the sick

01:49:46.639 --> 01:49:50.560
content that's been posted on ltdabs.com.

01:49:50.080 --> 01:49:59.360
>> Yes, >> check this out, dude. >> Yeah, >> Nick and Steven working on some pretty

01:49:55.760 --> 01:50:02.080
sick freaking content. This is I bought

01:49:59.360 --> 01:50:06.400
this is such an interesting question that when Intel announced this I was

01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:10.800
like oh yeah I wonder how much this helps. I wish someone would like look

01:50:08.639 --> 01:50:14.320
into that. And then little did I know >> and you didn't ask us.

01:50:12.159 --> 01:50:22.320
>> Little did I know somebody was doing it and that somebody was apparently me.

01:50:17.679 --> 01:50:25.040
Thank you Labs team. Um, so the the long

01:50:22.320 --> 01:50:32.400
and short of it is that Intel has some some tools that can that can help their

01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:35.679
especially their new Core Ultra um 200

01:50:32.400 --> 01:50:37.280
series processors perform apparently

01:50:35.679 --> 01:50:42.800
quite a bit better. And so there's there's actually a few different optimizations. Intel Extreme Tuning

01:50:40.159 --> 01:50:50.320
Utility, RXTU, Intel Application Optimizer, and then the new Intel binary

01:50:46.080 --> 01:50:53.440
optimization tool or IBOT. And pretty

01:50:50.320 --> 01:50:54.880
much you um go in here, you tweak all

01:50:53.440 --> 01:51:00.400
your stuff, they show you like how to enable it, and then boom, here is the

01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:06.000
improvement in performance that you can get with a 200 S series processor. So

01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:11.040
these are the the newer ones um with boost off and with boost on. Uh what

01:51:09.040 --> 01:51:15.760
exact chip did we use in the test bench? Uh test bench, where is it?

01:51:14.639 --> 01:51:20.480
>> Yeah, I can't remember off the top of my head either. uh changes the PL1

01:51:18.080 --> 01:51:23.679
profiles. Which chip is it? Okay. Well, this is something we might have uh

01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:30.400
overlooked a little bit. Oh, no, no, no. Here it is. Here it is. So, with the 285K Oh, no. Sorry. This is uh not the

01:51:27.119 --> 01:51:34.719
new Plus one. So, this is the older um

01:51:30.400 --> 01:51:37.280
285K, which gets a pretty substantial

01:51:34.719 --> 01:51:43.040
boost actually across a pretty wide variety of games. Anywhere from like 2

01:51:39.679 --> 01:51:46.159
1/2% to over 4%.

01:51:43.040 --> 01:51:47.760
And that's in 1% lows. So that's pretty

01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:52.480
cool. And then with the new plus, the new 270K Plus, we actually got way less.

01:51:51.360 --> 01:51:58.320
>> Yeah, >> that is pretty fascinating. So yeah,

01:51:55.679 --> 01:52:03.440
guys, go check out that article. And and that's just one of the uh of the cool

01:52:01.520 --> 01:52:06.719
things that went up this week. All right. Did this Did the CMF 2026 one go

01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:10.400
up? Not this week. >> Is >> Oh, they must have just I must have just

01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:13.360
come across it. No, no, that was that one was two weeks ago.

01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:16.800
>> Oh, I thought you were talking about the uh the phone brightness one. No, no, no.

01:52:15.360 --> 01:52:20.880
That one we talked about last week, but this one this one uh slipped my notice.

01:52:19.280 --> 01:52:24.320
So, this is talking about like color on Apple's new displays. Really, really,

01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:27.440
really cool article as well. I didn't see it until this week. So, I'm I'm

01:52:26.159 --> 01:52:32.480
getting to the point, man, where I just like and like like chilling and waiting

01:52:30.639 --> 01:52:39.239
for LT Labs to release a new article and I'm like you're that you've been

01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:39.239
releasing them without

01:52:39.360 --> 01:52:44.800
>> No one will ever go to the damn website by itself. That's >> No, they will. They will. Be optimistic,

01:52:43.679 --> 01:52:49.119
Luke. Hey, hey, you got to have >> We still Okay, we still I have to I have

01:52:47.679 --> 01:52:52.239
to point this out. You have to understand we still have people asking

01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:59.840
us like, "When are you guys going to have an RSS feed?" It's It's right here.

01:52:56.320 --> 01:53:02.400
It's It's right here. It's also It's

01:52:59.840 --> 01:53:07.199
also It's also right here.

01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:13.440
It's also just Hold on just in case. Just in case. Hold on. I got to go to

01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:14.880
the bottom. It's It's also right here.

01:53:13.440 --> 01:53:21.119
And if you click on here, it's everywhere. It's I we can't we can't put

01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:24.719
it in more play. We get people go out of

01:53:21.119 --> 01:53:26.800
their way to email us asking when we're

01:53:24.719 --> 01:53:30.880
going to have these things and they're

01:53:29.599 --> 01:53:33.520
Please use them. >> Yeah. Yeah, use them. It's good. It's good stuff.

01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:40.800
>> Come on. >> Heck yeah. Way to go, LTT Labs. Love to

01:53:36.239 --> 01:53:44.880
see it. All right, what else we got? Oh,

01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:46.400
this is cool. Uh I I actually

01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:51.199
man I'm on the fence now because I knew you'd be excited about that whole

01:53:47.920 --> 01:53:54.480
bringing bringing uh cutting edge models

01:53:51.199 --> 01:53:57.920
on prem uh with like the Gemini hardware

01:53:54.480 --> 01:53:59.040
appliance. Um but I can also see why you

01:53:57.920 --> 01:54:04.560
picked this one for one of your headlines. YouTube is opening up its AI

01:54:02.480 --> 01:54:08.800
powered likeness detection tool to all of Hollywood. Actors, musicians,

01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:13.280
athletes, and the talent agencies and management companies that represent them

01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:19.520
will be able to use this tool that works kind of like content ID except for faces

01:54:17.280 --> 01:54:23.280
scanning the platform for AI generated deep fakes of enrolled individuals and

01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:28.880
then letting them review and request removal. It is free, optin, and works

01:54:26.800 --> 01:54:32.320
even if the person doesn't have a YouTube channel. The tool's been in a

01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:37.199
phased roll out since actually late 2024, starting with CAA clients and then

01:54:35.360 --> 01:54:40.960
expanding to about 5,000 creators last fall, then to politicians and

01:54:38.800 --> 01:54:46.000
journalists in March. The entertainment industry is the biggest expansion yet

01:54:42.719 --> 01:54:48.719
with CAA, UTA, WME, and uh untitled

01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:53.760
management already on board. YouTube says that enrollment data is only used

01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:58.239
for detection and is not used to train Google's AI models. Flag videos are

01:54:56.320 --> 01:55:02.880
reviewed individually and content that falls under parody, satire or commentary

01:55:00.400 --> 01:55:06.400
may stay up. The expansion comes after sor after the Sora launch last fall

01:55:04.800 --> 01:55:09.679
flooded the internet with deep fakes of celebrities and dead public figures

01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:14.400
making the need for this kind of tool kind of hard to argue against.

01:55:12.719 --> 01:55:16.800
>> It's cool that YouTube's doing it. That's that's sweet. And for free.

01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:23.440
That's awesome. >> YouTube is not perfect. I call them out

01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:25.280
in public and in private on a pretty

01:55:23.440 --> 01:55:33.280
regular basis. However, however, however,

01:55:29.280 --> 01:55:33.840
let's look at all the other large video

01:55:33.280 --> 01:55:37.520
platforms. >> This is I I know I've said it on W show before, but this is what I keep going

01:55:37.119 --> 01:55:44.000
back to. >> Tik Tok meta,

01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:46.320
dude. Relatively speaking,

01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:53.040
>> they're awesome. They've >> for a company to be on top as well for

01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:56.159
as long as not not only around but as

01:55:53.040 --> 01:56:00.239
big and on top for as long as they have

01:55:56.159 --> 01:56:03.440
been. I am very surprised they don't

01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:07.840
seem way worse and way more corrupt than

01:56:03.440 --> 01:56:10.719
they are. Think about how Think about

01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:15.040
how often big tech changes the deal. Pray I don't

01:56:13.599 --> 01:56:19.360
alter it any further. Yeah. >> And with users, with users, I think

01:56:17.599 --> 01:56:24.239
there's there's a pretty strong argument to be made that they they have changed

01:56:21.040 --> 01:56:27.040
the deal in pretty substantial ways.

01:56:24.239 --> 01:56:31.119
>> Some of those changes, in my opinion, uh come with the reality of just not being

01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:35.599
like VC funded anymore and needing to run a profitable business model. I can't

01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:41.360
I can't blame them for that. You got you got to eat. Um, but in terms of the way

01:56:39.280 --> 01:56:45.199
that they've engaged with the creators on their platform, the ones who give it

01:56:43.119 --> 01:56:51.360
the value, the way that they have consistently stuck with that profit

01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:55.119
share model is nuts.

01:56:51.360 --> 01:56:57.599
>> Yeah. literally even seeing even seeing

01:56:55.119 --> 01:57:03.119
how the model works whether we're talking Vine whether we're talking Tik

01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:06.000
Tok or Meta no matter who it is even

01:57:03.119 --> 01:57:10.880
seeing that obvious playbook that has worked so well uh YouTube calls it they

01:57:08.400 --> 01:57:15.119
call it a flywheel right the flywheel spins creators create amazing content

01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:18.480
which benefits YouTube which makes money which goes to creators who spend it on

01:57:16.639 --> 01:57:23.599
content who make better content that flywheel that YouTube relies on to

01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:29.920
continue elevating the level of content on it and attracting creators to it.

01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:36.880
It's in public. It's plain for everyone to see and nobody else

01:57:33.679 --> 01:57:39.760
can just they can't do it. They can't

01:57:36.880 --> 01:57:45.760
take out their wallet and just share the revenue. kind of funny because by by by

01:57:43.280 --> 01:57:49.679
many accounts it's like actually cheaper and easier than doing something like

01:57:48.320 --> 01:57:54.719
Netflix where you have to make the content yourself. Uh but just no one

01:57:52.080 --> 01:58:01.040
else will do it. But I I I I still maintain like YouTube is really cool

01:57:58.960 --> 01:58:05.599
considering what it could be and there's some stuff that sucks. I'm still salty

01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:08.480
about the dislike button and and shorts have been very frustrating for me.

01:58:07.040 --> 01:58:13.280
Although I do have an interesting update. I heard on the open source

01:58:10.800 --> 01:58:19.760
creator Discord a few people got access to the app update and it does what we

01:58:17.599 --> 01:58:25.520
were hoping it would do. When you set your shorts limit to 0 minutes, it

01:58:22.159 --> 01:58:28.239
removes shorts entirely from your like

01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:33.360
main page, but if you go to a creator, you can still find the shorts. And that

01:58:29.920 --> 01:58:35.040
that is completely fine in my mind. Um,

01:58:33.360 --> 01:58:40.719
I still don't like that if you do manually go find some shorts, uh, it's

01:58:37.679 --> 01:58:44.000
incredibly easy to bypass your zero

01:58:40.719 --> 01:58:45.840
minute limit. Um, but the fact that it

01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:48.239
kind of removes it from there is cool. And no, >> I got it.

01:58:47.040 --> 01:58:55.760
>> The Oh, nice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let's check it out. >> Uh, okay. So, I have it now. Short speed

01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:58.480
limit 0 minutes. >> So, I'm going to Yeah, I'm going to

01:58:57.760 --> 01:59:03.920
close the app. >> Yeah. And then I'm going to I'll I'll

01:59:01.679 --> 01:59:06.400
log into uh I'll log into my account. Actually, no. I'll I'll stay on the LT

01:59:05.599 --> 01:59:11.360
account. I guess >> I saw shorts. >> Okay. Shorts.

01:59:09.360 --> 01:59:14.239
>> Yeah, I see shorts immediately. >> No, they're gone. >> They're they're gone.

01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:19.040
>> Wait, scroll down. >> No, that's play play. Oh, wait. YouTube playables. Oh, for crying out loud. Can

01:59:17.280 --> 01:59:22.040
I get rid of these? Not interested. Okay.

01:59:25.040 --> 01:59:31.719
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No shorts. >> Holy bananas.

01:59:28.080 --> 01:59:31.719
>> Sweet. Top news.

01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:38.480
Holy bananas, dude.

01:59:37.440 --> 01:59:44.400
That's crazy. >> No shorts. >> Also, this is a this is a quality

01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:48.280
recommendation. >> You're going to get uh

01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:57.280
>> How is that? How is that in my recommendations right now?

01:59:55.840 --> 02:00:00.800
>> Fantastic. Um, >> those Yeah,

01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:02.880
>> that's a that's a throwback. >> Was that the work account?

02:00:02.320 --> 02:00:10.440
>> Uh, >> someone's looking up the the dash boot beer song.

02:00:05.840 --> 02:00:10.440
>> Amazing. Amazing. vat9.com.

02:00:10.560 --> 02:00:18.159
Uh, >> is VT9 still around? >> I have no idea.

02:00:15.199 --> 02:00:20.719
Now I want to know. >> Yes.

02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:26.480
>> All right, let's let's see what's on bat 19. Oh, okay. >> It feels like the same stuff, though.

02:00:24.400 --> 02:00:30.639
This is literally like I I think they made the video about this 5B gummy bear

02:00:29.360 --> 02:00:35.119
over 10 years ago. >> Yeah. Honestly, I saw the gummy bear and

02:00:33.440 --> 02:00:40.480
then I saw the micromagnets and I was like nothing has changed,

02:00:37.199 --> 02:00:41.280
>> dude. I mean, look,

02:00:40.480 --> 02:00:48.080
>> why would you >> hold on a second? Hold on. Get Get out of here. Look listen listen, sir. I

02:00:45.440 --> 02:00:55.880
ain't a mathematician, but let me tell you let me tell you this. Times

02:00:52.080 --> 02:00:55.880
>> How much is it? $579.

02:00:56.080 --> 02:01:03.440
>> 57. Woo! In gummy bears, dude. Let's go.

02:01:00.000 --> 02:01:04.719
>> $5.7 million of gummy. We're in the

02:01:03.440 --> 02:01:09.679
wrong business, sir. >> You should be making gummy bears. Make some creatine gummy bears. Do it that

02:01:09.040 --> 02:01:16.560
way. >> That is That is wild.

02:01:14.719 --> 02:01:21.199
It's interesting that they they put like a like a purchase counter on it. Seems

02:01:19.280 --> 02:01:26.159
like every product. It's not It's not just key ones.

02:01:23.440 --> 02:01:33.760
Rubber chicken pen. That seems like dancing. Okay. Well, yeah, that's that's

02:01:31.040 --> 02:01:38.800
definitely a site that still exists. The superersized playground ball with

02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:42.480
unmatched durability. >> No discount on this one.

02:01:40.800 --> 02:01:47.440
>> It can handle a little Oh, this is new. This is in their their new uh tab.

02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:51.520
>> I see. >> Okay.

02:01:49.520 --> 02:01:56.159
catching a ball with the world's largest glove.

02:01:53.440 --> 02:02:00.000
All right, man. Internet, you have really you've really gotten to be a

02:01:58.000 --> 02:02:06.480
thing, haven't you? >> Uh, let's go

02:02:03.360 --> 02:02:07.599
talk about let's talk about who Dims

02:02:06.480 --> 02:02:12.239
Him. >> Have you seen this? >> Yep. >> I'm not quite sure if this qualifies as

02:02:10.719 --> 02:02:16.719
good news, but it's certainly >> it's news. >> Fascinating news.

02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:19.760
>> It might be good for like I don't know. No, I don't think it's I I I don't

02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:24.159
>> I think it could be. >> I think it's just dumb. >> Super cost effective computers where you

02:02:23.040 --> 02:02:29.920
just need something. >> I guess >> you need a RAM stick in the computer so

02:02:27.440 --> 02:02:36.400
it can turn on. >> Intel, ASRock, and Team Group have

02:02:32.239 --> 02:02:39.760
unveiled who DIM half unbuffered DIM, a

02:02:36.400 --> 02:02:42.880
new DDR5 spec that uses one 32-bit sub

02:02:39.760 --> 02:02:45.360
channel rather than the usual two. Um,

02:02:42.880 --> 02:02:50.800
fewer memory chips per stick means that it can be cheaper to produce as long as

02:02:48.239 --> 02:02:55.760
you don't need the extra capacity anyway. Uh, with that said, early

02:02:53.440 --> 02:02:59.760
benchmarks confirm the trade-off is pretty brutal. You get a little over 50%

02:02:58.400 --> 02:03:05.199
as much bandwidth across the board, which makes sense because if you had, uh, a single 32-bit sub channel instead

02:03:03.280 --> 02:03:11.040
of two 32-bit sub channels, then you would have half as many 32-bit sub

02:03:07.360 --> 02:03:12.800
channels. Um then in order to get the

02:03:11.040 --> 02:03:18.080
performance that you might expect from DDR5, you would actually need two HUD

02:03:16.080 --> 02:03:23.599
dims in dual channel and that would be the same as like one conventional uh

02:03:20.800 --> 02:03:27.679
DDR5 stick. The whole thing exists because of the DDR5 shortage that has

02:03:26.239 --> 02:03:31.119
been driving prices through the roof. It's aimed at entry-le desktops and

02:03:29.280 --> 02:03:35.520
office machines that don't need peak memory performance. But hear me out,

02:03:33.119 --> 02:03:39.360
DDR4 for those. Okay, that doesn't help office machines. and like, oh man, it

02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:43.760
just feels like a lot of manufactured e-waste. Um,

02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:49.280
one interesting thing though is that you can apparently start with a HUDM today

02:03:46.159 --> 02:03:51.840
and then add a regular DDR5 stick for an

02:03:49.280 --> 02:03:59.360
asymmetric setup. So, we've seen asymmetric memory before. I remember

02:03:55.040 --> 02:04:01.440
back um AMD socket A. So, this will be

02:03:59.360 --> 02:04:03.679
this will be a a deep cut. Did I use it right?

02:04:02.560 --> 02:04:09.440
>> Socket A. Yes. >> Had three sticks. had three memory

02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:12.960
sticks. And the way that it worked was even though it did support dual channel,

02:04:11.440 --> 02:04:16.800
you had two or three memory sticks, three slots. So you would install two

02:04:15.040 --> 02:04:21.360
sticks in dual channel and then you could install a third memory stick in

02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:25.280
the last slot that would operate in single channel mode. And the idea behind

02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:29.840
it was that you'd use the dual channel memory that was running in dual channel

02:04:27.119 --> 02:04:33.440
faster speed until you had too much in memory and then it would overflow into

02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:41.679
the single channel one that was slower. Um, NVIDIA also famously pulled this a

02:04:37.040 --> 02:04:43.840
similar move on the um, GTX 970 which

02:04:41.679 --> 02:04:47.760
had 3 and a half gigs of RAM at full speed and then it had the other half a

02:04:45.440 --> 02:04:51.920
gig of RAM at a lower speed due to the way that the uh, memory bus was

02:04:50.000 --> 02:04:54.920
configured. Um,

02:04:55.199 --> 02:04:59.599
it wasn't that big of a deal in either of those cases. It worked pretty good, but

02:04:58.239 --> 02:05:04.719
>> I don't think this will be a huge deal either. I still think hudims are maybe

02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:10.239
just like not maybe amazing. Um >> I don't think they're cool. Maybe it'll

02:05:07.199 --> 02:05:13.239
help again office computer situations,

02:05:10.239 --> 02:05:13.239
but

02:05:13.360 --> 02:05:18.440
yeah. Neat.

02:05:18.639 --> 02:05:23.520
>> Hopefully they're relatively cheaper enough that it'll be helpful.

02:05:22.080 --> 02:05:30.000
>> The thing I actually found most interesting about it was how uh they

02:05:26.320 --> 02:05:32.960
apparently tested it. So, um, let's see.

02:05:30.000 --> 02:05:36.880
Let me see if I can find a picture. Uh, Tom's Hardware doesn't have a picture of

02:05:34.639 --> 02:05:41.440
it. So, let me have a look. Maybe, uh, Tech PowerUp also has an article.

02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:44.400
Do they have a picture? Show me the picture. I don't know. I saw a picture

02:05:43.040 --> 02:05:49.599
of how they tested it somewhere. And basically, they just took a regular not

02:05:46.639 --> 02:05:56.080
who and put some Capton tape or some like packing tape over the contacts for

02:05:54.080 --> 02:06:00.400
like the other 32-bit sub channel. I was like, "Oh, yeah. Okay. I guess that

02:05:57.679 --> 02:06:05.679
would work as long as long as you have bio support for just activating the one

02:06:03.360 --> 02:06:10.400
side. I was like, "Oh, okay. I would have never thought of it. What if I just

02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:15.599
taped over half of the half of the the fingers on my memory stick before I put

02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:21.040
it in?" Yeah. No, I wouldn't I I I would not I would not think of that. It

02:06:17.360 --> 02:06:24.080
wouldn't occur to me. Um,

02:06:21.040 --> 02:06:27.360
no, we'll do that after. The EU

02:06:24.080 --> 02:06:29.360
is starting February 2027

02:06:27.360 --> 02:06:33.920
going to require batteries and portable devices to be, and this is a quote,

02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:39.360
readily removable and replaceable. Huzzah. And this is key, that has to be

02:06:37.599 --> 02:06:44.400
by end users using commercially available tools. No proprietary screws,

02:06:41.440 --> 02:06:49.360
no heat guns, no solvents. Replaceable batteries must also stay available for

02:06:46.639 --> 02:06:52.480
at least 5 years after a product leaves the market.

02:06:50.480 --> 02:06:57.760
>> This is super interesting. This is super cool. But there is a notable exception.

02:06:54.719 --> 02:07:01.040
Devices that manage to hit IP67

02:06:57.760 --> 02:07:02.560
waterproofing and that can maintain 80%

02:07:01.040 --> 02:07:07.440
of their battery capacity after a thousand full charge cycles are exempt.

02:07:05.679 --> 02:07:11.520
Apple already meets this threshold on every iPhone since the 15, and most

02:07:09.440 --> 02:07:17.840
flagship Android phones likely do as well. Meaning that the phones that many

02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:21.040
enthusiasts actually care about um may

02:07:17.840 --> 02:07:23.280
not be impacted by this. And many of the

02:07:21.040 --> 02:07:27.280
phones that people may not find to be worthwhile to bother repairing because

02:07:25.360 --> 02:07:33.360
of the costs involved in, you know, upgrading or repairing a device um

02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:36.800
may be the only ones that are actually impacted. Some outlets though are

02:07:35.280 --> 02:07:40.159
reporting that this could still push manufacturers toward easier battery

02:07:38.480 --> 02:07:44.400
access across the board since budget and mid-range devices that don't hit the

02:07:42.159 --> 02:07:50.159
exemption thresholds would need to comply. But the regulation may end up

02:07:47.679 --> 02:07:54.880
changing very little about how flagship phones are built.

02:07:53.040 --> 02:07:58.960
Our discussion question is, if every flagship phone qualifies for the

02:07:56.320 --> 02:08:02.800
exemption, does this regulation actually change anything or did the EU just write

02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:09.040
a right to repair rule with a loophole big enough to drive a phone through it?

02:08:06.320 --> 02:08:14.320
um given that not everybody buys flagship phones, which seems to be kind

02:08:10.800 --> 02:08:16.480
of a a carrier subsidy sort of market um

02:08:14.320 --> 02:08:20.159
assumption that everybody just like has a flagship phone. It just might be a few

02:08:18.239 --> 02:08:24.719
years old or it might be a current one. Um no, I I think this could actually

02:08:22.480 --> 02:08:29.119
make a substantial difference because those those more uh valueoriented

02:08:27.599 --> 02:08:34.320
mid-range phones where either they didn't pay for the IP certification or

02:08:32.079 --> 02:08:38.079
they um are not built for it. could end up being

02:08:36.480 --> 02:08:42.560
built in a way that makes the batteries easier to replace, which is never a bad

02:08:40.560 --> 02:08:46.639
thing. I do worry a little bit that again, the devices most impacted by this

02:08:45.440 --> 02:08:49.119
might be the ones that also aren't getting software updates after that

02:08:48.560 --> 02:08:58.159
time. >> Yeah. >> And therefore might have security concerns around using them, but I

02:08:55.119 --> 02:08:59.520
consider this still progress. Um,

02:08:58.159 --> 02:09:05.199
>> I was going to say steps >> and phones are just a small part of the

02:09:02.159 --> 02:09:07.679
portable electronics picture. Like I got

02:09:05.199 --> 02:09:13.599
I man I got super offended by my stupid old toothbrush that had a battery that

02:09:10.800 --> 02:09:18.480
was clearly intentionally designed to be impossible to replace. Not impossible

02:09:15.360 --> 02:09:21.119
but very difficult. I was just like this

02:09:18.480 --> 02:09:24.480
is offensive because the only reason that this doesn't work anymore is

02:09:22.480 --> 02:09:27.199
because you made sure it wouldn't. It sucked and I resolved never to buy a

02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:33.119
toothbrush from that company again. I wonder how it how did they do that? Um,

02:09:30.159 --> 02:09:36.960
basically just like the way that to when when it was closed up, the way that it

02:09:35.199 --> 02:09:42.159
closes kind of like break it >> latches and things like conceal the

02:09:38.960 --> 02:09:43.360
access cover and and I can understand a

02:09:42.159 --> 02:09:47.360
little bit of that it might have been done like kind of maybe for water

02:09:45.440 --> 02:09:52.719
resistance like it used a like a magnetic charger so it was like quite

02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:54.480
sealed up but I I think they it seemed

02:09:52.719 --> 02:09:56.800
intentional and when I looked up a guide it seemed even more intentional. I did

02:09:56.159 --> 02:10:02.880
not like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Very upset. Yeah, I think it was Oral B. Fire Panda

02:10:01.199 --> 02:10:06.320
Sasquatch says, "Uh, yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure it was Oral B. So, I will

02:10:04.239 --> 02:10:11.599
never buy an OralB toothbrush again unless they fix their fix their biz."

02:10:09.840 --> 02:10:16.159
Um, so yeah, I could see this making a much

02:10:13.440 --> 02:10:20.239
bigger difference in spaces like other personal electronic devices, maybe not

02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:25.040
as much in in phones. >> Speaking about fixing their biz, I don't

02:10:22.079 --> 02:10:30.000
know if this is positive, may maybe it is. Uh Nintendo is getting tariff

02:10:27.040 --> 02:10:33.280
refunds apparently. Uh but their customers should probably get those

02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:37.440
considering they raised their prices. Two US gamers have filed a class action

02:10:35.440 --> 02:10:42.480
lawsuit against Nintendo arguing that the company is about to double dip on

02:10:39.920 --> 02:10:46.719
tariff costs. When Trump's tariffs hit last year, Nintendo raised prices on

02:10:44.400 --> 02:10:52.560
Switch consoles, Switch 2 accessories, and controllers by $5 to $50 across the

02:10:50.079 --> 02:10:59.520
board, explicitly citing tariffs as the reason. CEO uh Shantaro Furukawa uh told

02:10:56.880 --> 02:11:03.920
investors in May 2025 that tariffs would be incorporated into the price. After

02:11:01.920 --> 02:11:08.639
the Supreme Court ruled the tariffs unconstitutional in February, Nintendo

02:11:06.639 --> 02:11:14.480
sued the US government to get its tariff payments back. And the government is now

02:11:10.719 --> 02:11:18.880
processing roughly $166

02:11:14.480 --> 02:11:21.199
billion in refunds to over three Oh,

02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:26.560
this isn't just a Nintendo. Okay. well to over 330,000 importers. The

02:11:24.320 --> 02:11:30.320
plaintiffs argue that since Nintendo already already passed the tariff costs

02:11:28.480 --> 02:11:34.239
on to customers through price hikes, getting a government refund on top of

02:11:32.239 --> 02:11:39.679
that means Nintendo collects the same money twice. Nintendo isn't the only

02:11:36.560 --> 02:11:42.639
company facing this. FedEx, UPS, Costco,

02:11:39.679 --> 02:11:47.360
and eyeglass importer Esler Lotica have all been hit with similar lawsuits.

02:11:44.960 --> 02:11:51.520
FedEx actually promised to pass refunds back to customers and got sued anyways.

02:11:50.480 --> 02:11:55.520
>> Go America. >> Hilarious. When asked back in March

02:11:53.679 --> 02:11:59.679
whether it planned to share refunds with customers, Nintendo said they uh

02:11:57.679 --> 02:12:04.880
Nintendo would only say, "We have nothing else to share on this topic,"

02:12:01.520 --> 02:12:06.480
which is akin to saying nothing. Uh

02:12:04.880 --> 02:12:09.840
discussion question. Nintendo passed the tariff cost to customers and is now

02:12:08.239 --> 02:12:13.280
collecting a refund from the government. Should companies that raise prices be

02:12:11.280 --> 02:12:17.199
required to pass refunds back? All right. Alon

02:12:15.280 --> 02:12:22.639
asks, "Linus, if you get a tariff refund for ltstore.com sales, would you return

02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:26.079
them to customers?" So,

02:12:23.119 --> 02:12:31.520
>> did you raise prices for tariff stuff? >> For us, it was not black and white. We

02:12:28.400 --> 02:12:35.040
did not simply increase our prices and

02:12:31.520 --> 02:12:36.239
then adjust our new retail price

02:12:35.040 --> 02:12:43.440
according to our new cost >> or walk to Mordor. >> Or walk to Mordor. you said one does not

02:12:41.040 --> 02:12:50.480
one does not simply um and what I suspect is that for a lot

02:12:47.679 --> 02:12:56.800
of other companies it probably wasn't that black and white either. So let me

02:12:53.119 --> 02:12:59.679
let me explain you know what we did when

02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:05.199
um a certain someone had a little fit about whatever and decided to go to

02:13:03.119 --> 02:13:10.960
trade war with the whole world for some reason. Um

02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:14.239
basically we went to our suppliers and

02:13:10.960 --> 02:13:16.960
we said hey you know it could

02:13:14.239 --> 02:13:23.440
significantly impact our volumes through you if you are not able to do anything

02:13:19.920 --> 02:13:26.880
to help us help our customers weather

02:13:23.440 --> 02:13:30.000
this storm. So some of it was absorbed

02:13:26.880 --> 02:13:33.040
by our by the manufacturer and supplier

02:13:30.000 --> 02:13:35.840
partners that we engage with uh both

02:13:33.040 --> 02:13:42.239
onshore and overseas. All right. Some of it was absorbed by

02:13:39.679 --> 02:13:44.000
our customers. We did raise prices on some items.

02:13:43.280 --> 02:13:51.520
>> Okay. >> However, some of it was also absorbed by

02:13:47.920 --> 02:13:52.960
us in multiple forms. So, for some

02:13:51.520 --> 02:13:58.079
things, for example, you might have noticed that t-shirts are substantially

02:13:55.199 --> 02:14:04.079
more expensive on LT store US compared to LTT Store global. That is not because

02:14:02.079 --> 02:14:11.119
we are making more money on the US store. Uh back when this whole thing

02:14:06.960 --> 02:14:14.239
first happened, uh I made the call for

02:14:11.119 --> 02:14:17.280
us to in spite of the extremely high

02:14:14.239 --> 02:14:18.400
tariffs on those t-shirts, basically eat

02:14:17.280 --> 02:14:25.760
the margin on them. >> Yeah, cuz I I think that's the last I heard of it. We, as far as I know,

02:14:22.639 --> 02:14:28.880
unless anything has changed, um, our

02:14:25.760 --> 02:14:32.400
pricing for t-shirts on ltstore.com is

02:14:28.880 --> 02:14:35.679
higher, but it is only higher

02:14:32.400 --> 02:14:37.360
reflective of our increased costs. If,

02:14:35.679 --> 02:14:43.280
uh, if I recall correctly, we are either not making money or barely making money

02:14:39.920 --> 02:14:46.639
on t-shirts on the US site. Um, ever

02:14:43.280 --> 02:14:48.480
since this whole thing went down, also

02:14:46.639 --> 02:14:52.159
there were other costs that were incurred by us that were not directly

02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:58.400
related to >> that's one I was going to bring up. >> Product cost. Uh, we spent an

02:14:56.400 --> 02:15:06.480
inordinate, no, I'm not going to say spent. We wasted aing inordinate amount

02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:09.199
of time and money dealing with [ __ ] that

02:15:06.480 --> 02:15:14.880
was completely unnecessary. Uh, none of this had to be done. We literally had to

02:15:11.119 --> 02:15:17.360
roll out a US warehouse in order to

02:15:14.880 --> 02:15:20.000
soften the blow of these price increases, these import taxes

02:15:19.360 --> 02:15:25.679
>> and store >> for our American customers. We had to

02:15:22.400 --> 02:15:27.199
develop a split store that has a now a

02:15:25.679 --> 02:15:33.520
global store and a US store. >> That also created more friction which

02:15:29.520 --> 02:15:35.840
reduced sales. Um it also uh like

02:15:33.520 --> 02:15:41.199
increasing your price because of tariffs will reduce your sales as well. there

02:15:38.400 --> 02:15:44.880
was an impact on our sales volumes. So we took an impact to our profits. We

02:15:43.040 --> 02:15:52.000
took an impact to our sales volumes. We took an impact to our overhead.

02:15:48.159 --> 02:15:55.199
None of which is directly

02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:57.920
um actually one only one of which is

02:15:55.199 --> 02:16:01.760
easily sort of directly measurable. The rest of them it's hard to say exactly

02:15:59.599 --> 02:16:04.480
how much of it was born by us versus borne by someone else.

02:16:02.800 --> 02:16:08.800
>> That being said, I'd love to see consumer relief as well. Um,

02:16:06.960 --> 02:16:11.679
>> yeah. And and I think we did we talk about this on WAN Show or what I was

02:16:10.159 --> 02:16:16.159
saying is that there's it's very multifaceted in how this impacted

02:16:14.400 --> 02:16:19.520
sellers, but I don't know if we did or not. >> Did we talk about this on WAN Show or

02:16:17.920 --> 02:16:24.800
off WAN Show? Cuz I think I did talk to you about how how it Yeah, it does seem

02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:27.920
kind of up that at the end of the day, you know,

02:16:25.440 --> 02:16:34.880
>> just businesses are getting helped >> always rolls down a hill, right? And so

02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:39.359
the end user the end user I mean I talked about this and it's it's so weird

02:16:36.559 --> 02:16:44.960
because the math is just math right math math is math and so at the end of the

02:16:42.080 --> 02:16:50.080
day if there's an increase in price somewhere in the supply chain at some

02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:53.840
point the customer will pay for it because that's the only way that someone

02:16:52.639 --> 02:17:00.479
has to pay for it and it's always going to be the customer. Um and it's it sucks

02:16:58.399 --> 02:17:06.479
that ultimately the customer you know bore a lot of these costs but

02:17:04.639 --> 02:17:10.399
and then right and then it's not the customer who is I mean I don't even see

02:17:08.800 --> 02:17:15.040
how you would administer a program. >> I've been trying to think about that I >> where every customer would go back and

02:17:13.200 --> 02:17:17.920
and what how what would they claim against? >> I don't think you could do it

02:17:16.319 --> 02:17:24.880
accurately. I think you'd have to do it for like I think you'd have to ignore

02:17:22.160 --> 02:17:29.920
H I think my way would be below a certain income threshold

02:17:27.840 --> 02:17:35.120
you just get like a certain amount of tax break or something

02:17:33.760 --> 02:17:39.439
have to do it below a certain income threshold. >> Yeah. I mean it's based on like direct

02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:40.960
consumption. So how would you do that? >> Impossible to measure.

02:17:40.399 --> 02:17:46.080
>> Yeah cuz >> I think it would just have to be the same amount for everybody.

02:17:43.920 --> 02:17:51.040
>> Yeah. It's it's it's definitely very >> technically impossible to measure, but

02:17:47.439 --> 02:17:52.000
like oh my god.

02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:58.559
>> Yeah. >> So, in summary, I haven't seen how much

02:17:56.240 --> 02:18:03.359
we're owed yet. Actually, I think that um I think that Tony said that sometime

02:18:00.800 --> 02:18:06.559
either last week or early this week, he'd have measure. There you go.

02:18:04.960 --> 02:18:13.439
>> He'd have a rough idea. I'm actually I'm going to I'm going to ping him now.

02:18:08.800 --> 02:18:16.080
Um, any idea on what we are owed for

02:18:13.439 --> 02:18:21.280
tariff stuff? Uh, yeah. Let me see if I can I'll see if I can find that out.

02:18:17.519 --> 02:18:26.160
But, um, what I suspect is that it's

02:18:21.280 --> 02:18:27.120
nowhere near what we spent reworking

02:18:26.160 --> 02:18:34.240
like our company. >> There's no way because it's deal with this crap. >> It's Yeah, it's it's not measuring the

02:18:31.519 --> 02:18:39.439
um the intangible stuff. all the insane meetings, the the massive amount of

02:18:37.840 --> 02:18:44.319
opportunity cost, >> like the time that people like me and

02:18:41.359 --> 02:18:49.519
Taran and other senior leaders at the company spent talking about this instead

02:18:47.359 --> 02:18:53.840
of how do we make more videos or make more products or

02:18:51.359 --> 02:18:57.519
>> um serve our serve our audience and serve our customers in ways that are

02:18:55.840 --> 02:19:03.359
positive and constructive instead of just undoing completely unnecessary

02:19:00.639 --> 02:19:07.439
negative impacts. is it it would be pretty tough for us to measure after the

02:19:04.880 --> 02:19:13.760
fact to be honest with you. And so yeah, the bottom line is I really don't um

02:19:11.359 --> 02:19:19.120
mannetic said the tariff income balances out to

02:19:15.519 --> 02:19:21.280
about 450 US per resident.

02:19:19.120 --> 02:19:24.800
>> 450. Was it that much? >> That's wild.

02:19:22.240 --> 02:19:28.880
>> That's That's insane. I mean, yeah. I mean, it makes sense cuz

02:19:26.399 --> 02:19:36.639
it was on so many imports. >> Yeah. Um, man, what a the you know,

02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:43.679
this is going to this is going to come across like crazy,

02:19:39.359 --> 02:19:46.639
but a small part of me actually wishes

02:19:43.679 --> 02:19:51.120
that at least, you know, they had stayed in effect then.

02:19:49.520 --> 02:19:58.240
At least then the whole thing would have been for something.

02:19:52.640 --> 02:20:00.399
>> Oh, yeah. cuz now it's for nothing.

02:19:58.240 --> 02:20:05.040
Basically, a whole bunch of global companies had their time wasted. A whole

02:20:03.200 --> 02:20:10.960
bunch of consumers had their money wasted. And there's no extra money to

02:20:08.240 --> 02:20:14.080
put theoretically into public services. There it's just the whole thing is just

02:20:12.720 --> 02:20:18.720
and and now there's the additional overhead of having to administer this program and refunds.

02:20:16.720 --> 02:20:24.560
>> Ultimately, what ended up happening >> for nothing. The US government made life

02:20:22.479 --> 02:20:27.760
super hell for a lot of companies and is now going to have to pay them a ton of

02:20:26.960 --> 02:20:32.319
money. >> I think there's interest in >> from consumers. >> I think there's interest.

02:20:30.800 --> 02:20:36.920
>> And consumers are going to get hyper hosed cuz they're not going to get

02:20:33.920 --> 02:20:36.920
jacked.

02:20:37.200 --> 02:20:43.280
>> Like >> so government just shoveled money towards companies which is effectively

02:20:40.960 --> 02:20:47.280
just shoveling money towards rich people. >> Yeah. But shoveled money towards

02:20:45.120 --> 02:20:52.000
companies after after costing them a bunch of money. >> Yeah. So, not even like not even just

02:20:49.920 --> 02:20:56.479
giving a hand out to the rich. You're like, "Hey, do a bunch of unnecessary

02:20:54.640 --> 02:20:58.960
work and have a bunch of unnecessary expense." >> Yeah.

02:20:57.840 --> 02:21:02.800
>> And then >> we'll pay you back with interest later.

02:21:01.040 --> 02:21:05.280
Thanks. You're still going to be at a loss on this, but thanks.

02:21:04.160 --> 02:21:10.160
>> I'm at a loss. >> Yeah. >> Um, hey, but we've got some good news

02:21:07.760 --> 02:21:14.720
because it's good news. Wow. Apple has fixed a flaw that allowed the

02:21:12.240 --> 02:21:18.640
FBI to access historical push notifications. >> Yeah, that news sucked. I didn't like

02:21:16.479 --> 02:21:20.960
that. Oh, I'm sorry. >> I'm happy we're back to good news.

02:21:20.080 --> 02:21:26.399
>> Which one? >> I don't know. >> Oh, the Nintendo getting tariff refunds. I mean, it's good news for Nintendo.

02:21:25.280 --> 02:21:33.600
>> Yeah, technically. >> Um, in Apple's update notes for 26.4.2,

02:21:30.800 --> 02:21:38.560
it includes a logging issue was addressed with improved data redaction

02:21:36.319 --> 02:21:43.520
to resol to resolve an issue where notifications marked for deletion could

02:21:40.800 --> 02:21:47.680
be unexpectedly retained on the device. Before the fix, cleared or deleted

02:21:45.520 --> 02:21:52.399
notifications were sometimes stored in a notification database which had been

02:21:49.680 --> 02:21:56.800
recoverable using forensic extraction tools. I believe it was Signal who

02:21:54.800 --> 02:22:01.200
flagged this. And our discussion question is good job Apple because

02:21:58.800 --> 02:22:05.600
apparently they got it taken care of relatively

02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:09.200
uh quickly. So I think that's pretty cool. That's Apple putting their money

02:22:07.840 --> 02:22:12.800
where their mouth is, putting their development efforts and towards

02:22:11.520 --> 02:22:20.960
something that really benefits the privacy of their users. And I'm always going to support that.

02:22:17.359 --> 02:22:23.359
Oh, I might have accidentally

02:22:20.960 --> 02:22:29.200
uh minimized a couple of just like uh impromptu topics. I still have one of

02:22:26.560 --> 02:22:33.680
them here. Um this is this is pretty good news.

02:22:32.080 --> 02:22:38.399
>> Yeah. If there if there's another one, uh Hexos has gone v 1.0. Oh, nice.

02:22:36.399 --> 02:22:41.600
>> Yeah. The remember the whole controversy when they first announced around uh

02:22:40.160 --> 02:22:44.880
local dashboard access? >> Yeah. >> It is now live,

02:22:43.840 --> 02:22:52.000
>> which is good. >> Which is good and should have always been a thing. But hey, look, uh John,

02:22:48.560 --> 02:22:54.000
their CEO, is is one of the nicest, most

02:22:52.000 --> 02:22:57.040
humble people that I've ever met. You know, when the community told him, "Hey,

02:22:55.680 --> 02:23:01.920
you're wrong about this. Even though there are, you know, you've got all your technical reasons why it made sense to

02:23:00.000 --> 02:23:06.560
do it the way you did it. This is really important to us. You're wrong." He said,

02:23:03.760 --> 02:23:12.560
"Okay." by the time we go 1.0, we'll have it. He made the commitment. It's

02:23:09.280 --> 02:23:13.840
done. Great. And you gota, you don't

02:23:12.560 --> 02:23:19.120
have to, you know, you don't have to like the thought process. You don't have to like how long something takes, but

02:23:17.120 --> 02:23:24.479
you got to you got to respect the follow through. So, uh, Hexos, for those of you

02:23:21.760 --> 02:23:31.359
who are not familiar, is the NAS software that I invested in a while ago.

02:23:27.040 --> 02:23:35.160
And, um, man, I was at Creator Summit

02:23:31.359 --> 02:23:35.160
and, um,

02:23:35.680 --> 02:23:41.120
three creators spontaneously came up to

02:23:38.880 --> 02:23:46.319
me asking me about like what would be the ideal thing for keeping their data

02:23:43.280 --> 02:23:48.479
safe, like 321. Um, one of them even

02:23:46.319 --> 02:23:52.080
described the concept of buddy backup to me.

02:23:49.840 --> 02:23:55.280
and asked if if there was something on the market that existed like that. And I

02:23:53.920 --> 02:24:00.240
was like, >> it's coming. Buddy backup's not implemented yet. The local dashboard is

02:23:58.800 --> 02:24:04.319
there, but buddy backup is still coming soon. Uh, and the idea behind it is that

02:24:02.319 --> 02:24:07.520
Luke could I could give Luke a couple hard drives for him to put in his NAS.

02:24:06.080 --> 02:24:12.080
He gives me a couple hard drives for me to put in my NAS, and then we're just

02:24:09.359 --> 02:24:16.399
buddies and we just use a secure tunnel to store encrypted versions of essential

02:24:14.240 --> 02:24:20.800
data on each other's NAS. We don't pay any subscription fee to any cloud

02:24:18.160 --> 02:24:26.880
provider. It's just buddies backing up buddies. And I'm like, I'm so excited.

02:24:24.800 --> 02:24:30.080
Just things Windows definitely could have solved.

02:24:27.920 --> 02:24:34.319
>> I know. Okay. Why are you bringing things

02:24:31.520 --> 02:24:36.000
negative now? You're sad about Windows. I get it.

02:24:35.359 --> 02:24:41.600
>> You know what? >> Sorry. My bad. >> You know what? I get it. >> The last topic just threw me off, man.

02:24:40.160 --> 02:24:44.720
>> No, no, no. We're not going to let the vibe be wrecked. Hey, that was the other

02:24:43.439 --> 02:24:48.479
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All right, shoot. I forgot what it was.

02:26:54.880 --> 02:27:01.920
Balls, right, good news, Wan. Should we just continue it?

02:27:00.240 --> 02:27:06.560
>> Uh, yeah. >> Oh, okay. Well, that was a shorter

02:27:03.600 --> 02:27:10.560
conversation than I expected. I when we were leading up to it and even maybe

02:27:08.479 --> 02:27:16.319
after the first one a little bit, >> I I saw rumblings saw rumblings in the

02:27:14.000 --> 02:27:19.840
chats and in the in the forums and Reddits and >> never watch again

02:27:17.680 --> 02:27:24.960
>> out there in the comments. Um, you know, oh, I expect more, you know, 360°ree

02:27:23.439 --> 02:27:29.120
coverage and and you know what, that's totally fair. That's totally fair.

02:27:26.479 --> 02:27:33.840
>> I I think we can compromise it a little bit. I think particularly important

02:27:31.439 --> 02:27:37.200
negative topics can be included. >> But in general,

02:27:34.720 --> 02:27:42.560
>> I think we should aim for general positivity. I um I think with the state

02:27:40.640 --> 02:27:48.960
of the world right now, I think to a certain degree it is our duty to

02:27:45.680 --> 02:27:51.920
>> He said duty

02:27:48.960 --> 02:28:00.720
>> to and and I think this is true for like a lot of uh creators to try to,

02:27:57.600 --> 02:28:03.040
you know, do the song and dance be a

02:28:00.720 --> 02:28:05.920
place that doesn't have to be as dark as where a lot of other places are right

02:28:04.640 --> 02:28:09.920
now. >> Sorry, what did you say?

02:28:08.319 --> 02:28:13.359
I'm like super tired. I woke up at 3:00 in the morning. So, >> okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that that

02:28:12.000 --> 02:28:17.520
was not coherent, but I I understand what you're saying. >> Was it actually not? It seemed fine to

02:28:15.280 --> 02:28:20.399
me. Be a place that is not as dark as everyone else. >> You say something about other creators,

02:28:19.280 --> 02:28:24.479
are they? Cuz I don't >> No, I'm saying it's it's the job OF US COLLECTIVELY.

02:28:23.040 --> 02:28:27.120
>> OH, OKAY. Now I understand. >> Not necessarily genuinely everyone, but

02:28:26.720 --> 02:28:32.800
like >> Okay, cool. That makes more sense. >> Okay. According to Tim, it was perfectly

02:28:30.800 --> 02:28:37.359
coherent. It must be me. Sorry. I've been traveling a lot. also did. Yeah,

02:28:35.040 --> 02:28:41.280
I'm genuinely wicked tired, so like >> Okay,

02:28:39.359 --> 02:28:45.200
>> it makes sense to me if it was not super coherent. >> Luke said, "Let's get pizza." Yeah,

02:28:43.120 --> 02:28:50.800
nice. Um, >> yeah. I I'm just I'm just I'm just after

02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:56.240
the first couple, I started to see the the rumblings go away and the rumblings

02:28:53.680 --> 02:28:58.319
started to go the other way and I felt the same way.

02:28:56.800 --> 02:29:03.359
>> Also, dude, like we would finish Wanchcho and I'd like feel all right.

02:29:01.120 --> 02:29:06.880
And a lot of the W shows over the last like while before we were doing this.

02:29:05.439 --> 02:29:12.000
I'd finish W show and I'd just be kind of down. >> Yeah. Like not I was more than down

02:29:10.479 --> 02:29:16.880
sometimes. I was like done. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah.

02:29:13.680 --> 02:29:18.960
>> Like I even I even have a a character

02:29:16.880 --> 02:29:21.840
for like when I can't anymore, you know? And that's like that's not a state you

02:29:20.640 --> 02:29:28.000
want to reach every Friday. >> Hasn't been kicked off in a while. And I I think a big part too is like I think

02:29:25.520 --> 02:29:31.040
this is universally true for all of us. We're all getting the negative news.

02:29:30.160 --> 02:29:34.800
Yeah. >> I don't think they also need it here.

02:29:33.680 --> 02:29:38.720
>> Yeah. >> Like I And again, if it is particularly

02:29:37.920 --> 02:29:43.359
important, >> Yeah. >> or a particularly big deal for whatever

02:29:41.040 --> 02:29:45.520
reason, sure, we can include it. >> But if it's like a Okay, you have to

02:29:45.120 --> 02:29:50.960
pick one. >> If Lena Khan passed away, we would have to cover that. That would be bad news.

02:29:49.760 --> 02:29:56.319
>> That would be bad news. That would be cataclysmic bad news. >> Yeah. Uh but if if you're trying to

02:29:54.960 --> 02:30:00.399
compare like which one of these two topics should we include and they're

02:29:58.560 --> 02:30:04.720
pretty similar in importance level but one of them is good news and one of them

02:30:01.840 --> 02:30:08.560
is bad news, ditch the bad news one. >> Yeah. How about this? How about how

02:30:07.680 --> 02:30:12.399
about >> if it's an important security thing or

02:30:10.720 --> 02:30:18.000
something? We can still flag it. >> I'm going to say 90% ratio.

02:30:16.160 --> 02:30:22.319
>> Yeah, I think that's reasonable to be honest. >> So you can pick. So we'll tell the like

02:30:20.399 --> 02:30:24.720
the news team which and actually I'm usually the one who goes through and

02:30:23.520 --> 02:30:29.200
picks the topics for the show but whatever. So but basically when you

02:30:26.800 --> 02:30:33.439
bring the menu if you're bringing 20 topics only two to three of them

02:30:32.800 --> 02:30:38.399
>> should be >> should be should be negative topics. So pick the ones that are important.

02:30:36.560 --> 02:30:41.680
>> Stay the path set. Exactly. Algorithms make sure you get the bad news. And I

02:30:40.240 --> 02:30:45.040
think that's kind of an interesting way of approaching it is we should try to be

02:30:43.359 --> 02:30:50.479
the opposite. >> Yeah. And I'm so here for it. be a

02:30:47.760 --> 02:30:56.160
positivity skewed algorithm of news. >> We've been live for

02:30:53.359 --> 02:31:01.600
almost 3 hours now and if I compare how I feel right now,

02:30:59.280 --> 02:31:05.439
like how how how just tired and drained I feel right now cuz it's a little bit

02:31:03.359 --> 02:31:09.840
like we've been, you know, we've been on for for 3 hours, right? It's a long

02:31:07.680 --> 02:31:13.760
time. Um like I don't I don't actually envy like game streamers who are live

02:31:11.600 --> 02:31:16.640
for like 10 hours a day. Like some of them like 12 hours a day. Those guys are

02:31:15.200 --> 02:31:22.240
crazy. It's it's it's it can be draining. Um other than being awake for

02:31:20.000 --> 02:31:26.399
so long at this point, I don't feel the like

02:31:23.760 --> 02:31:32.640
social exhaustion I often feel from Wancho because it is such a like

02:31:31.200 --> 02:31:36.560
>> Yeah. I don't feel like that. >> That topic was heavy and gross. Time to

02:31:34.560 --> 02:31:39.520
go into the next heavy and gross topic. >> Yeah. Ready to feel down again.

02:31:38.720 --> 02:31:45.359
>> Yeah. Exactly. >> And is look, it's not like we don't know these things. We literally like have to

02:31:43.280 --> 02:31:49.200
review them in order to, you know, get the topics together for the show. And

02:31:46.640 --> 02:31:53.359
it's not like it's not like I didn't notice Google that your news feed

02:31:51.359 --> 02:31:56.160
scrolls infinitely now and never says you're done. Okay. Well, unless you're

02:31:54.800 --> 02:31:59.600
having like an issue with, you know, loading on your data or whatever, right?

02:31:58.000 --> 02:32:04.960
Like I like I'm getting it all and I know you guys are getting it all.

02:32:02.880 --> 02:32:08.880
>> I I want to move forward with Good News Wow. Maybe

02:32:06.640 --> 02:32:15.920
>> maybe that's just it. Maybe the L show channel is is an oasis of of positivity

02:32:12.640 --> 02:32:19.439
and optimism about technology amidst

02:32:15.920 --> 02:32:22.640
just a sea of of diarrhea about

02:32:19.439 --> 02:32:22.960
technology, you know.

02:32:22.640 --> 02:32:28.000
>> Yeah, >> let's do it. >> Yeah. >> And now let's do some uh check out

02:32:26.640 --> 02:32:31.120
messages. Dan, what do you >> I also I also think there there was a I

02:32:30.080 --> 02:32:34.960
don't know if I addressed this on the show or not, but there was one of the

02:32:33.200 --> 02:32:38.560
first Good News W shows. Someone pointed out that we like got off topic for a

02:32:36.720 --> 02:32:41.680
second. We got really negative about something. I don't even remember what it

02:32:39.760 --> 02:32:49.200
was. And we got kind of like called out for it on Reddit and I agree with them

02:32:47.280 --> 02:32:53.680
cuz whatever it was we were talking about, I don't remember what it was, but

02:32:50.319 --> 02:32:56.000
it just wasn't very important.

02:32:53.680 --> 02:33:00.479
It didn't matter. And we still talked about it on a good

02:32:57.920 --> 02:33:03.720
news show and I was like, you know, that was unnecessary.

02:33:03.920 --> 02:33:08.319
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cool. If it's necessary, let's talk

02:33:06.960 --> 02:33:15.000
about it. If it's not, let's keep it positive. I think that's cool.

02:33:12.000 --> 02:33:15.000
>> Yeah.

02:33:15.120 --> 02:33:18.760
>> Let's do it. >> Yeah.

02:33:20.080 --> 02:33:26.399
Okay. Yeah, we've got quite a few today.

02:33:23.760 --> 02:33:30.080
Luke, every site wants me to make a pass key these days. How is it possible that

02:33:28.479 --> 02:33:35.920
pass key is more secure than a strong password? I have 2FA and still get asked

02:33:32.640 --> 02:33:38.240
to make a pass key for those sites.

02:33:35.920 --> 02:33:41.359
I wish I could answer this for you better. I honestly haven't done enough

02:33:39.760 --> 02:33:47.040
research on pass keys because they're so infrequently available.

02:33:43.600 --> 02:33:48.160
>> I feel like the pass key utopia that we

02:33:47.040 --> 02:33:53.120
were promised >> it failed. >> Did not happen. And I'm I'm

02:33:51.200 --> 02:33:56.399
>> Well, you can't say it failed. >> Well, it didn't happen. I didn't say it

02:33:54.720 --> 02:34:02.160
failed. I said I said it hasn't happened. And this hybrid of like

02:33:59.359 --> 02:34:08.080
sometimes using a password and sometimes a password and sometimes a 2FA token or

02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:13.920
a notification on my phone is actually just worse than any one of those things.

02:34:10.640 --> 02:34:17.600
And I I I I it is starting to get like

02:34:13.920 --> 02:34:19.840
almost like like a like a like a like a

02:34:17.600 --> 02:34:23.040
triggering thing when I need to log into something. Like I tried to I had to get

02:34:21.120 --> 02:34:26.319
into the Labs building today and I'd been logged out of UniFi

02:34:24.640 --> 02:34:29.439
>> and I was just like >> dude you got to get a fob.

02:34:28.399 --> 02:34:34.160
>> It's the way to go. >> Well, see I carry the actual like master

02:34:32.000 --> 02:34:37.600
key to the building. So it was only because I was going in the side door

02:34:35.359 --> 02:34:42.720
that it mattered. So it's like whatever. >> Uh Sty 2002 said pass key is basically

02:34:41.120 --> 02:34:46.080
asymmetric encryption. It's something you have takes the knowledge and

02:34:44.560 --> 02:34:50.880
fishability completely out of the equation. This is where this is why I

02:34:48.960 --> 02:34:55.200
haven't even bothered to look into it because no, it doesn't in my opinion.

02:34:53.920 --> 02:34:58.800
>> And then why do I even need it? Because my phone is already a thing I have which

02:34:57.200 --> 02:35:03.280
I already just biometrically authenticated for. So your pass key is

02:35:00.960 --> 02:35:08.399
already redundant. Like I just >> The reason why I'm saying no, it doesn't

02:35:05.280 --> 02:35:10.960
is because

02:35:08.399 --> 02:35:15.680
most services that I know of that have pass keys

02:35:13.359 --> 02:35:18.160
>> also allow you to just have like, oh, we'll we'll just text your phone, bro.

02:35:17.840 --> 02:35:23.840
>> Yeah, >> you you want another option for signing? Yeah, we can just text your phone, dude.

02:35:22.160 --> 02:35:27.760
>> Do you remember that time remember that time I showed you how many

02:35:25.200 --> 02:35:30.640
authentication methods I had on one of my accounts

02:35:28.800 --> 02:35:34.399
>> for Google or something? Yeah, it was like terrifying because they half of

02:35:32.880 --> 02:35:38.800
them didn't even like work anymore, but they were they had just all been set up at some point.

02:35:36.960 --> 02:35:42.720
>> Yeah. And then and then Sty said that's the implementation. It's horribly

02:35:40.240 --> 02:35:45.600
implemented like horribly worst ever. Blah blah blah. And yeah, no, I totally

02:35:44.160 --> 02:35:53.840
agree. I wasn't saying saying technically what you said was wrong. What I'm saying is that right now as

02:35:50.000 --> 02:35:57.280
they are, they're kind of irrelevant in

02:35:53.840 --> 02:35:59.280
my experience. Uh, I have autofill

02:35:57.280 --> 02:36:04.560
already, so they don't really make it so that I log in any faster. They It's also

02:36:02.240 --> 02:36:09.439
not doing biometric stuff like you're talking about. So, it doesn't really

02:36:05.760 --> 02:36:12.399
skip a step on mobile either.

02:36:09.439 --> 02:36:16.080
So, it just like I don't know. And then you can just bypass it by using a

02:36:14.479 --> 02:36:21.680
different method. And you can say like, oh well, you know, I won't do that. But

02:36:18.560 --> 02:36:23.280
for us, personal security is like a

02:36:21.680 --> 02:36:29.600
little bit less important than org security. Um, and any user can just be

02:36:27.680 --> 02:36:36.960
like, "Well, I'm going to include being able to text my phone." So,

02:36:33.120 --> 02:36:41.080
uh, yeah, Basis can require biometric

02:36:36.960 --> 02:36:41.080
authentication. It's the site's choice.

02:36:41.520 --> 02:36:47.200
This is like almost my whole point that

02:36:44.880 --> 02:36:52.080
they don't they're not doing that. The they are also allowing you to in many

02:36:50.319 --> 02:36:57.040
actually like high important account situations bypass it entirely by texting

02:36:55.280 --> 02:37:02.399
your phone which is like the worst possible thing. It's it's the the the

02:36:59.920 --> 02:37:09.439
problem is like the the tech can be as cool as the tech wants. If it's not used

02:37:06.399 --> 02:37:13.760
fully and

02:37:09.439 --> 02:37:15.760
uniquely then it just doesn't matter cuz

02:37:13.760 --> 02:37:23.640
it can it can be as secure as you want. If you're still receiving text messages,

02:37:19.840 --> 02:37:23.640
it's all out the window.

02:37:24.319 --> 02:37:30.479
There we go.

02:37:27.600 --> 02:37:35.600
Hey la, can you talk about an event where the

02:37:32.240 --> 02:37:38.160
outcome still boggles you?

02:37:35.600 --> 02:37:43.439
Sure. Actually, I was thinking about this just earlier this week because of

02:37:40.160 --> 02:37:48.399
the whole supposed um blacklisting of

02:37:43.439 --> 02:37:50.399
certain YouTube media by AMD. Um like I

02:37:48.399 --> 02:37:55.680
I basically I was I was kind of asked to give an example of a time when a brand,

02:37:53.840 --> 02:38:00.560
you know, had a seating strategy that didn't really make any sense to me. And

02:37:58.240 --> 02:38:06.319
there's one kind of favorite story that I have and it was a it was a large

02:38:04.080 --> 02:38:12.720
multinational display manufacturer who had like the

02:38:10.160 --> 02:38:18.240
hottest display on the market like this like it was so cool. It's like this like

02:38:15.200 --> 02:38:19.840
giant curved like freaking amazing.

02:38:18.240 --> 02:38:26.080
Nobody else would have had the stones to make something like this. and we reached

02:38:23.200 --> 02:38:29.359
out to them trying to get uh trying to get a sample, trying to get a review

02:38:27.439 --> 02:38:33.680
unit early because we were like very excited about it and wanted to make a

02:38:30.880 --> 02:38:37.200
video and pretty much just like wanted to game on it and talk about how

02:38:34.960 --> 02:38:42.800
freaking huge and immersive and cool it was and they turned us down and we were

02:38:40.880 --> 02:38:46.960
pretty bummed, right? Because obviously we like to make videos about cool tech

02:38:44.720 --> 02:38:52.000
that people want to see and that that gets us views. It gets, you know, you

02:38:49.600 --> 02:38:55.280
guys informed on this cool new product and it gets eyeballs on the product for

02:38:53.600 --> 02:38:59.520
the brand. It's, you know, stacking W's. I love stacking W's. And this seemed

02:38:56.880 --> 02:39:04.560
like an obvious W stacker. And they were like, nah. And I was like, okay, well,

02:39:02.560 --> 02:39:08.800
that's a bummer. Fast forward, I kid you not, I think it

02:39:07.040 --> 02:39:12.800
was one week later, it might have been two weeks later. It was like almost

02:39:10.960 --> 02:39:20.319
immediately in our business leads inbox

02:39:16.240 --> 02:39:22.800
an offer from that same company to do

02:39:20.319 --> 02:39:29.359
the exact video that we pitched editorially. This time from an agency.

02:39:26.000 --> 02:39:32.399
So this is like classic right hand has

02:39:29.359 --> 02:39:35.200
no idea what the left hand is doing.

02:39:32.399 --> 02:39:40.399
an offer to do that same video on that same monitor for I kid you not, it was

02:39:37.280 --> 02:39:43.120
like tens of thousands of dollars for a

02:39:40.399 --> 02:39:50.080
video that I wanted to do for free and was told nah.

02:39:46.560 --> 02:39:52.880
That is an event where the outcome still

02:39:50.080 --> 02:39:57.760
boggles me. Hi, can I do something for you for free? No, but what you can do is

02:39:55.760 --> 02:40:00.720
do it for tens of thousands of dollars. >> Just got to wait a little while, I

02:39:59.040 --> 02:40:07.359
guess. >> Bizarre. I will never understand it. Um,

02:40:05.120 --> 02:40:10.359
Gilpur says, "Did you take the money?" Yeah,

02:40:10.960 --> 02:40:16.960
of course. I would have I wanted to do the video anyway. I just I I did at the

02:40:16.240 --> 02:40:20.479
time. I don't even >> Did you tell them when you got there? >> Uh,

02:40:19.520 --> 02:40:25.040
>> that would have been funny. >> No, no, they they shipped it here. >> So, there there was no one there was no

02:40:23.600 --> 02:40:30.479
one to tell. It was just like >> I don't know how big this screen was. >> Yeah, dude. No, I was Dude, it was

02:40:28.000 --> 02:40:34.080
hilarious. It's It was just so funny. I was like, "This is the stupidest thing

02:40:31.439 --> 02:40:39.960
I've ever seen." And and what's crazy is is it is it's not even um like we've

02:40:36.960 --> 02:40:39.960
seen

02:40:41.840 --> 02:40:50.160
brands are just made up of people

02:40:46.800 --> 02:40:53.479
and people sometimes got up really early

02:40:50.160 --> 02:40:53.479
that day,

02:40:53.600 --> 02:40:59.040
you know? Yeah.

02:40:57.680 --> 02:41:03.000
Uh, do you have something where the outcome still boggles you?

02:41:07.439 --> 02:41:13.600
>> Some Yeah, not really that I want to go into details of some of the contracts

02:41:12.000 --> 02:41:18.800
for services and stuff. Uh,

02:41:16.000 --> 02:41:23.439
>> he is uh like the best negotiator ever. By the way, if you want like a contract

02:41:20.880 --> 02:41:25.359
negotiating like just a bulldog, you know,

02:41:24.720 --> 02:41:29.640
>> some >> contact Luke Leier, Inc.

02:41:30.640 --> 02:41:35.680
>> I don't know. >> And your strategy is so simple. You just say no. Is that right?

02:41:34.960 --> 02:41:41.600
>> For the most part. >> No, that doesn't work for me. >> There was also one where they had two

02:41:38.080 --> 02:41:42.800
different associates trying to do sales

02:41:41.600 --> 02:41:47.439
with me at the same time. >> Snag that commission. And I ended up uh

02:41:45.280 --> 02:41:49.359
doing basically the like walk across the street to the other car dealership

02:41:48.720 --> 02:41:53.280
thing, >> but to the same company with their

02:41:51.840 --> 02:41:57.760
different associates. >> So the one would say like, "Oh, well, I

02:41:55.359 --> 02:42:03.280
can give you this deal." And I'd go to the other guy and be like, "Well, I'm

02:42:00.240 --> 02:42:05.439
getting like this other deal from this

02:42:03.280 --> 02:42:10.160
other sales associate." And then both like work each other down, which was

02:42:07.600 --> 02:42:17.319
just incredible. Uh, there's been some pretty wild stuff, but um, oh man, I

02:42:13.680 --> 02:42:17.319
just had one in mind.

02:42:17.680 --> 02:42:22.240
Crap. I'll try to keep thinking about if it

02:42:20.800 --> 02:42:25.600
comes to me. I maybe I'll maybe I'll chime up

02:42:24.000 --> 02:42:31.600
>> more then. All right. Yeah, hit me down. >> Yeah. >> Hey, LLDD. I recently went from working

02:42:28.720 --> 02:42:37.680
in my given field to working for a pretty big media company in my industry

02:42:34.560 --> 02:42:40.000
and I'm suddenly on camera making

02:42:37.680 --> 02:42:45.120
technical videos. Any tips for a newbie? >> I actually have lots of tips for you.

02:42:42.960 --> 02:42:49.040
Um here you need to get a subscription to float

02:42:46.880 --> 02:42:50.720
plane. You need to dig into the Floatplane exclusives.

02:42:50.240 --> 02:42:56.479
>> Nice. >> And um I mean where is it? What's it

02:42:54.560 --> 02:43:02.560
called? Definitely not that. >> Sometimes you have to use quotes.

02:42:59.840 --> 02:43:09.600
>> The searches can find it here. Extras. Lionus teaches his son how to be a host.

02:43:05.520 --> 02:43:12.720
>> Um, this one's pretty good. And then

02:43:09.600 --> 02:43:15.760
there's also a behind the scenes of me

02:43:12.720 --> 02:43:19.120
coaching a couple of our guests from

02:43:15.760 --> 02:43:22.800
Intel. Here it is. Lionus host tips.

02:43:19.120 --> 02:43:25.520
Intel A770 GPU extras. Uh both of those

02:43:22.800 --> 02:43:32.240
two are a substantial amount of my experience as a host in

02:43:28.800 --> 02:43:35.120
video form training other hosts. So uh

02:43:32.240 --> 02:43:41.680
head on over there. Hey Luke, as a user of Catchy OS, have

02:43:38.399 --> 02:43:43.279
you had a chance to ex Cashy OS, have

02:43:41.680 --> 02:43:50.000
you had a chance to explore the recent GPU patches for low RAM cards or even

02:43:46.479 --> 02:43:52.080
the AMD GPU HDMI 2.0 VRR changes they

02:43:50.000 --> 02:43:59.760
include? Any thoughts? >> No, I was I was spoiled and was given a

02:43:56.160 --> 02:44:02.080
4080 Noctua, so I I don't have a low RAM

02:43:59.760 --> 02:44:04.560
card situation. >> Where'd that come from?

02:44:03.760 --> 02:44:08.319
>> You >> Oh, yeah. Right.

02:44:07.600 --> 02:44:12.720
>> Yeah. What do you think? >> I I forgot it was a Noctua edition. >> Yeah. It's It's hard to You can't really

02:44:12.240 --> 02:44:16.720
tell. >> That's sick. You're welcome. >> Yeah. It's covered in moss. Uh

02:44:16.000 --> 02:44:21.439
>> Right. Right. >> But yeah, it's not super applicable to me. >> I was like, damn, a Noctua edition. No,

02:44:20.080 --> 02:44:25.200
what that could we couldn't that wouldn't have been us. We we would have

02:44:23.359 --> 02:44:28.000
gone with like a like a duel or something, you know, like

02:44:27.040 --> 02:44:32.720
>> No edition. Come on. >> I don't necessarily know why you guys did that. >> No, I'm not I'm not

02:44:31.120 --> 02:44:35.840
>> not made a Noctua fans here, you know. >> At least I'm pretty sure it's a knock to edition.

02:44:34.319 --> 02:44:41.840
>> Yeah, it might be. I think it is. I I'll check. I'll check. Could have just painted it brown.

02:44:39.680 --> 02:44:47.600
>> Uh yeah. So, I it's not super applicable to me. I did do the like relatively big

02:44:45.040 --> 02:44:52.319
recent Cashy update. I haven't had a chance to really like play with it much

02:44:50.479 --> 02:45:00.160
other than just knowing that my system is totally fine. Um,

02:44:56.720 --> 02:45:02.319
yeah. Yeah, seems good. I was I was

02:45:00.160 --> 02:45:05.439
excited to see those updates, but I they're just not like super applicable

02:45:04.080 --> 02:45:13.840
to me right now, which is great. >> I love that this chapter is called Luke's Confidence Lowers.

02:45:10.399 --> 02:45:16.800
Um, oh, hello. Okay, what are we what

02:45:13.840 --> 02:45:20.160
are we looking at here? motherboard. Mhm. Mhm. Oh, GPU time. Here we go. It's

02:45:19.439 --> 02:45:24.800
So, it is. >> Yeah. >> Yep. That's a knock to a fan if I've ever seen one.

02:45:22.800 --> 02:45:30.720
>> And you can't see any of that anymore cuz it's all mossed.

02:45:28.160 --> 02:45:35.600
>> Running my first marathon on Sunday. And the WAN Show has gotten me through all

02:45:32.640 --> 02:45:37.120
my long runs. Wow. Hoping for a 4hour show.

02:45:36.640 --> 02:45:43.120
>> Nice. >> Would you ever run a marathon? And what is your biggest physical accomplishment?

02:45:42.880 --> 02:45:46.720
I >> think my knees would explode. Mine too.

02:45:45.920 --> 02:45:53.040
Um >> I think we're not made for that. >> I I think not. Uh yeah, marathon. That's

02:45:51.120 --> 02:45:58.479
very cool though. That's so cool. And like like massive massive respect.

02:45:56.800 --> 02:46:02.560
>> If you could do the whole thing on soft surfaces somehow.

02:46:01.040 --> 02:46:08.880
>> That'd be pretty sweet. >> Tape carpet to your shoes.

02:46:05.840 --> 02:46:11.760
>> Yeah. Not really.

02:46:08.880 --> 02:46:13.520
>> How long was the foam run 2025? Foam run.

02:46:12.880 --> 02:46:20.640
>> Okay. That was >> Oh, this like spray stuff. >> Yeah, that was 5K. I I did this with

02:46:17.200 --> 02:46:23.120
Ivonne because my son wanted to do it

02:46:20.640 --> 02:46:30.479
and then she agreed to do it with him and then he caught sick and had to bail.

02:46:27.040 --> 02:46:32.640
So, we had two tickets. So, after me

02:46:30.479 --> 02:46:36.000
saying, "No, I have zero interest in this."

02:46:34.240 --> 02:46:40.399
um I ended up being the one who had to do it. Anyway, so how long how long's a

02:46:37.840 --> 02:46:47.120
marathon? How many kilometers marathon? So I did that and it was a standard

02:46:44.080 --> 02:46:50.479
marathon is 42.195

02:46:47.120 --> 02:46:53.439
km. So could I do the foam fest eight

02:46:50.479 --> 02:46:58.319
times? The answer is >> no. Probably never.

02:46:56.720 --> 02:47:03.600
>> I think it's very cool though. >> Greatest physical feat for me um is

02:47:01.359 --> 02:47:07.439
probably just like a cool like shot on the badminton court. I have kind of a

02:47:05.200 --> 02:47:15.439
signature move where if my opponent plays a uh uh plays a forehand side like

02:47:11.680 --> 02:47:18.479
really tight net or drop shot uh I get I

02:47:15.439 --> 02:47:20.800
I just I I I love to dive and so I'll

02:47:18.479 --> 02:47:25.439
get like full body extension in the air and I will sometimes I've actually done

02:47:22.640 --> 02:47:29.200
it before catch it just below the court and manage to pop it back up and I've

02:47:27.680 --> 02:47:33.840
actually net rolled it a couple times back over and every time it's like like

02:47:31.680 --> 02:47:38.160
people go people go nuts. Uh, so it would be like some some shot I made in

02:47:35.840 --> 02:47:44.800
badminton sometime in terms of I had not had a lot of physical accomplishments

02:47:39.920 --> 02:47:47.359
like more of a pale techie guy. I I am

02:47:44.800 --> 02:47:53.279
these days. I All of mine will be very old. I I think one of my one of my

02:47:49.600 --> 02:47:56.319
favorite ones to think back on is um

02:47:53.279 --> 02:47:59.200
playing football. Left defensive end. I

02:47:56.319 --> 02:48:05.120
I got a sack but was able to punch the the ball out and the right defensive end

02:48:03.120 --> 02:48:09.840
uh recovered the fumble and scored a goal. So, we got a we got a defensive

02:48:07.840 --> 02:48:13.680
touchdown which was sick. Uh there's another time where there was a field

02:48:11.279 --> 02:48:17.760
goal being shot and I jumped up and and actually blocked it but didn't realize

02:48:15.840 --> 02:48:21.680
that that doesn't stop the play. So, my dad was screaming at me but I was still

02:48:19.439 --> 02:48:26.680
I was still proud and my arm hurt but that's I still got it. Um,

02:48:27.200 --> 02:48:31.040
>> Conrad from Flowplane says, "I can bench press my wife."

02:48:30.319 --> 02:48:37.439
>> Sick. >> Nice. >> Sick. >> Nice.

02:48:35.040 --> 02:48:43.439
>> White wife lifting is is based. >> Oh, no. Xfin 724 in Floatplane chat

02:48:41.680 --> 02:48:46.560
says, "I was so bad at volleyball in high school gym class that when I

02:48:44.800 --> 02:48:49.560
finally hit one over the net, both teams clapped."

02:48:49.600 --> 02:48:55.680
Mortifying. >> That's pretty epic. Amazing.

02:48:55.120 --> 02:48:59.760
>> Uh yeah, >> my favorite my favorite like memory is

02:48:58.160 --> 02:49:04.319
probably there's a there's a video clip of me hitting some dude in hockey and

02:49:01.520 --> 02:49:08.399
then my GRANDPA GOES, "LET'S GO, LUKER." And it's you can hear him cheering on

02:49:05.920 --> 02:49:12.080
the clip and it's fantastic. >> Cphilus says, "I can bench press two of

02:49:10.399 --> 02:49:15.680
my wives. >> How many do you have?"

02:49:14.000 --> 02:49:20.720
>> Okay, carry on. All right, Dan. >> He did pluralize wives.

02:49:18.479 --> 02:49:24.880
>> What's up, boys? Are there any plans to make regular cargo shorts? Not the

02:49:22.560 --> 02:49:30.640
zip-off pants. Thanks. >> Um, probably, but I don't have a

02:49:26.960 --> 02:49:33.120
timeline on that. Sorry.

02:49:30.640 --> 02:49:37.520
When. Lon, I noticed that you've been talking about

02:49:34.800 --> 02:49:42.399
your RC cars lately. If you were to make content for the dozens of us RC nerds

02:49:40.319 --> 02:49:48.399
out there, what would it be? Reviews, weird, and crazy builds? Track days?

02:49:44.880 --> 02:49:50.319
Definitely not track days. I suck.

02:49:48.399 --> 02:49:54.160
Uh, if I was going to do anything, it would be just like casual hangout

02:49:52.080 --> 02:49:58.399
streams, like put a camera up in the corner of like my my little workshop

02:49:56.240 --> 02:50:02.880
corner at home and while I, you know, fill shock fluid or whatever it is,

02:50:01.040 --> 02:50:06.720
>> like an Adam the Savage kind of thing. >> Um, >> just hang out with me in my shop.

02:50:04.960 --> 02:50:12.479
>> Yeah, just like throw the chat up and just kind of chill.

02:50:09.359 --> 02:50:14.800
>> Howdy, Mumu, Slick, and Dan de Man out

02:50:12.479 --> 02:50:17.840
of the recent AMD. >> Mumu.

02:50:15.840 --> 02:50:20.399
>> Oh, my old email address. Mumu the cow. Oh, right. Okay. The one you used

02:50:19.680 --> 02:50:25.840
professionally. >> That's a deep cut. >> There you go. I'm using it right.

02:50:22.880 --> 02:50:28.240
>> He's learning the slang. >> Very pog.

02:50:26.560 --> 02:50:32.800
>> How do you do, fellow kids? >> Out of the recent AMD tech upgrades,

02:50:30.880 --> 02:50:34.880
have there been any purchases that someone made that surprised you?

02:50:34.399 --> 02:50:41.520
>> Yes. >> Something you didn't expect that they would be interested in?

02:50:38.319 --> 02:50:44.479
>> All of the like unnecessarily expensive

02:50:41.520 --> 02:50:51.040
collectible stuff just boggles my mind. And like

02:50:46.960 --> 02:50:55.520
I know that there is like a subset of

02:50:51.040 --> 02:50:57.760
the viewers that feel like I'm being

02:50:55.520 --> 02:51:03.279
like I'm putting on a performance or I'm being disingenuous when I like lose my

02:51:00.960 --> 02:51:09.120
mind over somebody spending like, you know, $500 on a Lego minifigure or

02:51:05.680 --> 02:51:11.520
something like that. I promise you

02:51:09.120 --> 02:51:16.720
>> that it is not performative in the slightest. If there was no camera

02:51:13.760 --> 02:51:22.240
pointed at me, I would do the exact same thing. I promise you that no matter how

02:51:19.760 --> 02:51:28.800
much money I had, no matter how many jets I could buy, I would never spend

02:51:25.840 --> 02:51:30.880
$500 on a Lego minifigure. >> Ever.

02:51:29.359 --> 02:51:34.560
>> You've spent some money on some collectible Xbox controllers. At least

02:51:32.640 --> 02:51:40.960
one. Two. At least. >> This is true. So, okay. Okay. You know

02:51:37.040 --> 02:51:43.040
what? I have uh the one no the the one

02:51:40.960 --> 02:51:47.359
expensive one that I have is that one that the developers got.

02:51:44.960 --> 02:51:49.920
>> You also have a gold one. It's only kind of a technicality, but

02:51:48.720 --> 02:51:56.560
>> that one's that one. >> So the one I'm really talking about is the developer one.

02:51:52.160 --> 02:51:59.359
>> Yeah, the developer one. Um,

02:51:56.560 --> 02:52:04.240
it I I use it though, >> which I which I know is like crazy for

02:52:02.319 --> 02:52:07.760
something that's like a one of like >> very few, but I like have spent hours

02:52:06.880 --> 02:52:13.040
gaming on it. >> That's sweet. >> So to me there and and look, everyone

02:52:10.960 --> 02:52:18.240
draws their own line, right? Like slightly before their own behavior.

02:52:14.960 --> 02:52:21.840
That's that's human nature, baby.

02:52:18.240 --> 02:52:25.040
But to me, the fact that I game on it

02:52:21.840 --> 02:52:28.000
means that to me, it's a controller.

02:52:25.040 --> 02:52:32.479
>> It's not a shelf piece. >> Ah, okay.

02:52:29.359 --> 02:52:36.080
>> There are exceptions. I purchased a copy

02:52:32.479 --> 02:52:38.319
of Final Fantasy 6 for Super Nintendo

02:52:36.080 --> 02:52:43.120
that I never intended to put into a slot. But again, for me, that was more

02:52:41.279 --> 02:52:47.120
about restoring >> Yeah. a thing that I owned that I lost

02:52:45.279 --> 02:52:53.120
at a time in my life when I lost a lot of things moving between my families.

02:52:49.600 --> 02:52:55.439
Um, I also purchased a copy of Final

02:52:53.120 --> 02:53:01.600
Fantasy Tactics that I never intended to put into a PlayStation 1, but that one

02:52:58.560 --> 02:53:03.600
was more about I have played this game

02:53:01.600 --> 02:53:10.880
cover to cover three times and I have never purchased

02:53:06.319 --> 02:53:14.000
it. Not good. So, I own a copy of the

02:53:10.880 --> 02:53:16.479
original and I paid for Chronicles. I

02:53:14.000 --> 02:53:20.800
consider my sins washed clean at that point. So, like

02:53:17.760 --> 02:53:22.720
>> like I I mean I definitely I definitely

02:53:20.800 --> 02:53:27.920
buy stuff that's unnecessary sometimes. Okay. Like here here's a perfect

02:53:24.000 --> 02:53:30.240
example. Uh Evan and Caitlyn

02:53:27.920 --> 02:53:34.479
Evan and Caitlyn make this really cool knife. Uh or like they partnered with a

02:53:32.880 --> 02:53:39.120
local where where is it? Uh, where do you find

02:53:37.600 --> 02:53:42.560
their where do you find their Oh, here here. shop evanaitlyn.com. They have

02:53:41.279 --> 02:53:48.720
this they have this really cool box cutter. This thing is so cool. It's also

02:53:45.120 --> 02:53:52.560
$120 Canadian for a box cutter, which is

02:53:48.720 --> 02:53:54.160
like madness, but it's replaceable. You

02:53:52.560 --> 02:53:58.800
can put a new utility blade in it whenever you want. And it is like one of

02:53:56.319 --> 02:54:04.720
the most satisfying fidgets that I have ever encountered in my life. Oh,

02:54:00.800 --> 02:54:08.160
actually, I have it. Um,

02:54:04.720 --> 02:54:09.600
but again, I use it. So, I don't know if

02:54:08.160 --> 02:54:13.279
you can if you can think of something that's like a dumb thing that like I

02:54:11.200 --> 02:54:17.439
don't even use, then I'm open to it. >> I guess I have my my katana. People

02:54:15.600 --> 02:54:19.680
always comment on that on my mantle. That was impulsive. I was young.

02:54:19.120 --> 02:54:24.880
>> We've used it. >> Oh, and we have used it actually. That's true.

02:54:22.319 --> 02:54:29.680
>> And I and I specifically wanted one that was an actual sword that was not purely

02:54:27.600 --> 02:54:32.640
decorative. I think it's 2/3 tang. So, like you could like you could do some

02:54:31.359 --> 02:54:38.560
stuff with it if you really wanted to. And it's sharp. >> Yeah.

02:54:36.240 --> 02:54:42.040
>> Here it is. This thing is This thing is like so cool.

02:54:44.560 --> 02:54:51.520
It's just It's Oh, dude. It's so satisfying. Hey. Oh, speaking of cool

02:54:49.680 --> 02:54:56.000
knives, I didn't pay for this one because he's a bro. >> Yeah. You got to give him the sound. You

02:54:55.120 --> 02:55:02.640
have to give him the sound, >> dude. I got the Hacksmith blade. I ran

02:55:00.240 --> 02:55:08.160
into him at Creator Summit. He's he's my Canadian bro. He brought one for me. Um,

02:55:06.319 --> 02:55:13.439
so it's like a it's a multi-function knife. If you guys somehow managed to

02:55:10.720 --> 02:55:18.000
not see the Kickstarter for this thing. Uh, it has a built-in uh it has like

02:55:16.080 --> 02:55:23.120
little built-in uh screwdriver bit storage here. So, you slide these out

02:55:20.080 --> 02:55:25.040
and then they just uh go into the tip.

02:55:23.120 --> 02:55:28.240
They're magnetic. You can also put it in this way if there's like a tight space

02:55:26.800 --> 02:55:34.000
you're trying to reach into and you want to do that. Uh there's tweezers built

02:55:30.720 --> 02:55:36.560
into them. Um

02:55:34.000 --> 02:55:41.760
there's a level. There you go. There's a little uh there's a little uh ruler on

02:55:39.279 --> 02:55:46.319
it. Uh the clip is adjustable so you can put it on either side, whichever kind of

02:55:43.600 --> 02:55:50.160
works better for you. And oh man, what else is Oh yeah, bottle opener. It has

02:55:48.319 --> 02:55:54.880
whatever this like pokey spiky thing is. I actually don't don't remember what

02:55:51.439 --> 02:55:56.160
that one does. Sorry. Um, uh, maybe. I

02:55:54.880 --> 02:56:02.720
don't know. So, probably does something. I mean, knowing knowing James, it definitely does something. But this

02:55:59.840 --> 02:56:08.120
Okay, hold on. I'm just gonna just just check this out. It has these like Okay,

02:56:05.040 --> 02:56:08.120
hold on.

02:56:09.920 --> 02:56:13.760
Just >> doesn't quite capture it. >> Yeah, it doesn't quite capture it, but

02:56:13.040 --> 02:56:17.479
it's >> way better in person.

02:56:18.240 --> 02:56:23.920
>> Yeah, it will.

02:56:30.479 --> 02:56:39.920
It is so flipping satisfying, man. And I

02:56:37.120 --> 02:56:45.680
don't think that I have ever encountered a folding knife that check it. Check it

02:56:42.720 --> 02:56:48.960
out. Like, feel the feel the um feel how little slop, how little play there is in

02:56:47.120 --> 02:56:54.800
the blade. I don't think I've ever encountered a

02:56:50.560 --> 02:56:55.760
folding knife that feels as much like a

02:56:54.800 --> 02:57:02.640
fixed knife. >> I I mean I have, but it's really good.

02:57:01.359 --> 02:57:06.880
>> I think I might have loosened it a little already.

02:57:04.720 --> 02:57:12.399
I've just dude, ever since he hand it to me, I've just been like I was I was on

02:57:09.359 --> 02:57:14.080
set today and I forgot like how sharp

02:57:12.399 --> 02:57:18.000
this thing is and I was just like playing and there was some uh there was

02:57:16.240 --> 02:57:21.279
some you know that like closed cell like like really squishy like dense foam.

02:57:20.960 --> 02:57:27.840
>> Sure. >> I I just was like, you know, I I'll like stab it into it.

02:57:25.920 --> 02:57:32.080
I went probably about this deep on the blade

02:57:29.840 --> 02:57:38.800
through. So like about probably this far, right? cuz it was at like a corner

02:57:35.520 --> 02:57:41.359
and it just passed right through it.

02:57:38.800 --> 02:57:44.880
Even though the blade is so uh Whoops. Uh even though the blade is so Oh my

02:57:43.840 --> 02:57:53.520
gosh. What are you doing? There we go. I'm doing something. Even though it's so thick, right? It's so sharp out of the

02:57:50.800 --> 02:57:58.960
box that it just was like and I'm like oo cuz I was like flipping

02:57:55.760 --> 02:57:59.760
it to myself like make the sound effect

02:57:58.960 --> 02:58:03.760
right then. >> That was amazing. >> Solid. So, I'm pretty sure I heard Dan

02:58:02.560 --> 02:58:08.479
do it, too. >> Anyway, um, did he give you the torque

02:58:06.720 --> 02:58:11.600
flag? Just tighten up. Yes, Roman, he did give me the torque flag. It comes

02:58:09.760 --> 02:58:16.479
with a little thing to, uh, properly torque this screw to make sure that you

02:58:13.040 --> 02:58:21.680
get exactly the right feel on it.

02:58:16.479 --> 02:58:23.439
So, yeah, super super impressed. Um,

02:58:21.680 --> 02:58:27.279
way to go, James. Now you just got to manufacture them all. In case you're

02:58:24.960 --> 02:58:32.000
wondering why I have one before all the customers have gotten one, uh, this one

02:58:29.600 --> 02:58:37.200
had some kind of issue with it that was cosmetic and didn't matter and it's like

02:58:34.479 --> 02:58:41.279
not worth it to disassemble it and fix it and reassemble it compared to just

02:58:39.200 --> 02:58:44.080
making another one. So, he had a few of those at Creator Summit. So, mine's not

02:58:43.279 --> 02:58:48.479
a perfect one. >> I finally realized why I didn't have the

02:58:47.200 --> 02:58:53.760
Kickstarter for it. >> Did you miss it classically? No, I I was

02:58:51.120 --> 02:58:56.399
going to buy it for for

02:58:54.319 --> 02:59:00.880
>> myself, my brother, and my dad as like a Christmas gift, and then I logged into

02:58:59.040 --> 02:59:06.080
Kickstarter and got flashbacks of the coal bar and was like, I'll just wait

02:59:03.439 --> 02:59:07.200
until they're like ready to ship, purchasable.

02:59:06.880 --> 02:59:12.880
>> Got it. >> And then I'll just get them then. >> Yeah. Yeah. You might have ended up cursing him if you had bought one for

02:59:10.880 --> 02:59:16.399
your dad for Christmas. We know what happened the last time. probably better

02:59:13.920 --> 02:59:21.439
for everyone that I just did it cuz I was trying to remember like I definitely

02:59:17.920 --> 02:59:23.279
wanted to get one. Um

02:59:21.439 --> 02:59:27.040
and I Yeah, I'm fairly certain that's what happened.

02:59:25.520 --> 02:59:31.520
But yeah, they're they're pretty wicked cool.

02:59:28.720 --> 02:59:36.240
Yeah, got to use this Linus coin somehow. Thank you for fueling my tech

02:59:33.760 --> 02:59:38.000
skills from virus downloading noob to self-hosting noob.

02:59:37.600 --> 02:59:46.240
>> Nice. >> What was the first application that you self-hosted? How long ago was it?

02:59:43.680 --> 02:59:49.520
Oh. Uh,

02:59:47.840 --> 02:59:55.279
>> games or applications? Counterstrike. >> Mumble.

02:59:51.600 --> 02:59:57.359
>> Counterstrike. Yeah, Counter-Strike.

02:59:55.279 --> 03:00:00.920
>> Yeah, Mumble's Mumble's kind of goated. >> I don't think

03:00:01.439 --> 03:00:07.920
would that count. I set up uh slightly slightly later I

03:00:06.160 --> 03:00:12.000
set up an FTP server that I could access from offsite just because it was more

03:00:09.520 --> 03:00:15.359
convenient than um carrying around files. I'd say those are those are my

03:00:14.319 --> 03:00:22.120
two like earliest ones. >> I hosted a lot of game stuff before I did FTP server, but I did do that at

03:00:18.960 --> 03:00:22.120
some point.

03:00:22.160 --> 03:00:29.439
>> Hi, LLD. Question for Luke. Do you think that open source software can find a way

03:00:26.800 --> 03:00:33.760
to self-fund without relying on exclusive donations?

03:00:30.720 --> 03:00:35.680
>> Correction. Uh, I did a bunch of

03:00:33.760 --> 03:00:38.880
research, but I think no, my friend actually ended up hosting the Mumble.

03:00:36.880 --> 03:00:41.680
So, the an FTP server for myself was my first one. I don't want to leave that

03:00:40.080 --> 03:00:44.880
out there if it's not quite right. Sorry. Carry on.

03:00:43.279 --> 03:00:48.240
>> Question was, do you think open source software can self-fund without

03:00:46.640 --> 03:00:51.680
exclusively relying on donations? >> Yeah, totally. Corporate sponsors and

03:00:50.399 --> 03:00:55.040
corporate service. >> This was a question for me. Oh,

03:00:53.439 --> 03:00:59.359
>> although that's exactly what I was saying. So, so you're fine. Uh,

03:00:57.920 --> 03:01:02.640
>> well, you were the one who asked it, so I just naturally answered it. I was

03:01:01.359 --> 03:01:08.720
echoing. I just had to say it again. Yeah. No, it's fine. I was just razing you. Uh yeah, basically that though I

03:01:06.960 --> 03:01:14.720
think the main way to do it is through support effectively. Um

03:01:12.240 --> 03:01:17.520
technically Mozilla, yeah, kind of that's a bit of a one-off where you're

03:01:16.160 --> 03:01:24.080
going to get crazy amounts of money from Google, but um

03:01:20.800 --> 03:01:27.840
yeah, usually the like the standard path

03:01:24.080 --> 03:01:30.479
is is uh

03:01:27.840 --> 03:01:34.960
>> is is support. So you release it out there. Hopefully it's useful for someone

03:01:32.479 --> 03:01:41.840
and hopefully those people want uh either like a custom fork or just uh

03:01:38.479 --> 03:01:45.200
more general uh support contract uh free

03:01:41.840 --> 03:01:47.439
tier paid tier stuff. Yeah. Um generally

03:01:45.200 --> 03:01:54.080
I think the normal play is to make that more focused to enterprise customers.

03:01:50.960 --> 03:01:56.720
Um, there are

03:01:54.080 --> 03:02:00.560
ones that are just everybody basically, but but normally I I see that being

03:01:59.359 --> 03:02:04.160
enterprise customers. >> I I told Hacksmith Luke asked if he can

03:02:02.640 --> 03:02:06.399
have one too. Got any more of the scrapped ones? He says, "Haha, I'll

03:02:05.680 --> 03:02:12.240
see." Nice. >> That's pretty non-committal. >> I mean, if not, I'm buying them. So,

03:02:09.200 --> 03:02:14.720
doesn't really matter. Um, EJC said,

03:02:12.240 --> 03:02:20.960
"Speaking of that Mozilla thing, are you using something different now?" Um,

03:02:19.439 --> 03:02:26.160
I'm trying to think across all devices. I was using Zen for a bit which is like

03:02:23.439 --> 03:02:29.920
a Mozilla fork and I was enjoying it. I'm not currently using it right now

03:02:27.760 --> 03:02:34.240
because I think I tried to like Pac-Man install it and it didn't immediately

03:02:31.680 --> 03:02:38.720
work so I just kept using Firefox. I I didn't like look into it. But uh I might

03:02:37.439 --> 03:02:45.040
eventually try to get it back on my desktop again. I liked Zen. the Zen had

03:02:41.760 --> 03:02:47.600
like all your tabs are vertical and on

03:02:45.040 --> 03:02:54.160
the left side instead of across the top. And I liked that because I generally use

03:02:50.399 --> 03:02:57.760
Chrome for work or a Chromium browser

03:02:54.160 --> 03:02:59.120
for work. Um, and Firefox for personal.

03:02:57.760 --> 03:03:06.080
And one of the reasons why I do that is just keep separation. And using Zen with

03:03:02.960 --> 03:03:08.720
the vertical tabs made it like super

03:03:06.080 --> 03:03:12.000
obvious which browser I was in. because sometimes

03:03:10.319 --> 03:03:17.120
uh when they're too similar and my current setup for Firefox and my current

03:03:14.399 --> 03:03:20.880
setup for Chromium on my desktop, I get caught sometimes cuz they're kind of too

03:03:18.800 --> 03:03:24.319
similar and I'll load a YouTube video in my like work browser

03:03:22.720 --> 03:03:28.880
>> and then oh >> terrible >> time to watch 10 million years of ads.

03:03:27.279 --> 03:03:34.560
So then I have to bring it over to my personal one. Um and that's like pretty

03:03:31.279 --> 03:03:38.160
annoying. But yeah, Luke Meta, Mint,

03:03:34.560 --> 03:03:38.960
Cinnamon, and Zen. I mean,

03:03:38.160 --> 03:03:44.000
yeah, man. >> Uh, Noki asks, "Hey, did you not do the Floatplane announcements?" Uh, we

03:03:42.479 --> 03:03:48.720
didn't, but we also kind of accidentally did cuz apparently the one I was supposed to highlight this week was

03:03:47.040 --> 03:03:52.880
Lionus interviews the LTT head of writing about LMG content. U, so the

03:03:51.040 --> 03:03:57.120
only thing I have to change is that he asked me to show the timestamps, uh,

03:03:54.960 --> 03:04:03.680
showing what we what we talked through. So, um, techjet, firet truck, uh, what

03:04:00.880 --> 03:04:07.120
we use the jet for, tech house, uh, first upgrade for the tech house, when

03:04:05.439 --> 03:04:12.880
we're ready to sell, investing in support, uh, Riley, um, elephants in the

03:04:10.640 --> 03:04:17.200
room, family vlog, departures of notable talent, uh, talking through nostalgia

03:04:15.040 --> 03:04:22.560
isn't a viable strategy, uh, Mr. Carney's line from uh from his speech

03:04:19.600 --> 03:04:26.399
recently becoming more agile. Uh how do we avoid being full corporate future of

03:04:24.479 --> 03:04:32.240
LMG? What about the other channels? And how do we 10x our media side? How are we

03:04:28.640 --> 03:04:34.560
10xing CW? So that's the uh that's the

03:04:32.240 --> 03:04:38.160
topics. And Sammy asked if you guys uh leave a comment on that video if you

03:04:36.240 --> 03:04:43.600
want to give a suggestion for other leaders at the company that you would

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like to see. We've already done Taran um

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James obviously and Luke to an extent.

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Um, which he might not remember. Sammy predicted that. Oh, yeah. That's that's

03:04:51.200 --> 03:04:55.600
the one. >> Well, >> so Sammy says, "Luke,

03:04:54.720 --> 03:04:59.680
>> it's not really the same." >> Luke will probably go, "What video?" And

03:04:58.399 --> 03:05:04.399
then you're like, "Bam." And he'll be like, "Oh." And then he'll be like, "I

03:05:02.080 --> 03:05:09.120
was so out of it during this shoot." >> I Okay. The The reason why I reacted

03:05:07.359 --> 03:05:11.840
that way is cuz you interviewed James on this one. You didn't interview Nick,

03:05:11.279 --> 03:05:18.640
Lucas, and >> No, someone did. Uh, watch the exclusives either on YouTube members or

03:05:15.600 --> 03:05:19.680
at a lower price at LMG.gg/fp1.

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>> By the way, there's a bunch of people trying to tell me how to install Zen. That wasn't my point.

03:05:23.439 --> 03:05:27.920
>> I can I can figure it out. I actually for the Linux, man.

03:05:27.040 --> 03:05:32.319
>> I have super >> You think he needs to install Zen?

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>> Yeah, >> he dodged the hard R incident.

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>> He has full Zen.

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>> That's my pre-installed Zen. No, I I've been actually very specific. I I'm okay

03:05:44.399 --> 03:05:50.880
with friends giving me input or advice.

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Um, but I'm I've been hard ignoring any

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comments I see because that seems unfair

03:05:57.680 --> 03:06:05.600
in regards to the Linux challenge. >> So, like I've got a buddy that I've

03:06:01.920 --> 03:06:07.359
known since I was like 15

03:06:05.600 --> 03:06:11.680
who is like a Linux head and will talk to me about Linux stuff sometimes. I'm

03:06:08.800 --> 03:06:13.439
like, "Okay, name a secret. Can I guess? >> I don't think you know this person.

03:06:12.880 --> 03:06:16.560
>> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Um, you can guess, but I don't

03:06:15.920 --> 03:06:21.520
think you do. >> Okay. >> Um, so like I I'll talk to them about

03:06:19.279 --> 03:06:27.279
it, but like I I'm not going to go out of my way to seek unfair potential input

03:06:25.680 --> 03:06:32.960
and just like let me figure it out, dude. >> Yeah,

03:06:30.479 --> 03:06:35.920
>> it's part of the fun. >> Yep.

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>> Hey, LLD, you guys have talked about how you liked visiting Taiwan. I will be

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visiting later this year. Is there a place you visited several times or would

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like to visit because it's so great? I just play badminton.

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So, I just I work all day and then I

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shuttle [ __ ] all night and then I sleep.

03:06:54.880 --> 03:07:02.479
>> He sure does. >> Sometimes I go out for late night noodles. I like spicy noodles.

03:07:00.640 --> 03:07:05.120
>> Yeah. Uh, >> sometimes I call Luke and I'm like,

03:07:04.000 --> 03:07:10.399
"Hey, >> it's really late, but I need spicy

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noodles." Luke's like,

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"Yeah, I'm down." >> Almost every time. Not technically all,

03:07:14.640 --> 03:07:21.120
but almost every time. Uh, there's a fun restaurant, if I'm assuming you're

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talking mostly in Taipei. There's a fun restaurant called Pay My Tuition. I went

03:07:23.040 --> 03:07:29.840
there because I thought their name was funny and then I actually really liked their food and their vibe was really

03:07:27.359 --> 03:07:36.160
awesome. Uh, the highest rated Indian food restaurant I've ever seen in the

03:07:31.680 --> 03:07:38.960
entire world is in Taipei. It has 8,248

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reviews and is 5.0 stars on Google Maps. >> Wow.

03:07:39.359 --> 03:07:47.120
>> Which is wild. Uh, Wendell showed me this place. I'm going to butcher the

03:07:43.760 --> 03:07:48.479
pronunciation. Oi, Oay Punjabi Ethnic

03:07:47.120 --> 03:07:50.960
Indian Restaurant. >> Mhm. >> Uh, good food.

03:07:50.240 --> 03:07:58.080
>> Nice. >> Um, 2J Cafe is like one of the vibiest

03:07:55.279 --> 03:08:03.120
places I've ever been in my life. Um, Dawn Park is a cool place to go.

03:08:01.200 --> 03:08:07.040
Most of my things that I have flagged in Taipei are restaurants because I'm

03:08:04.800 --> 03:08:10.640
usually trying to go there with people. Um, but the coolest individual thing

03:08:09.279 --> 03:08:15.680
I've done in Taiwan, if you want to somehow get yourself out there, um, I

03:08:13.200 --> 03:08:17.840
don't know how to say this, so I don't know how to help you find it.

03:08:16.960 --> 03:08:24.800
>> Nice. Solid, >> but it's just called 11. It's at 605

03:08:20.880 --> 03:08:26.960
Taiwan Chi County, Alishan Township.

03:08:24.800 --> 03:08:32.880
Good luck. Have fun. It's uh you stay up there for 24 hours

03:08:29.359 --> 03:08:36.240
and uh you live on a native reservation

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in the mountains and you pick tea and

03:08:36.240 --> 03:08:42.640
you chop down bamboo and use a section of the bamboo to make rice and then you

03:08:40.800 --> 03:08:48.359
incorporate the rice into making mochi and your dinner and all these other

03:08:44.160 --> 03:08:48.359
kinds of things and it's fun. It's good.

03:08:49.279 --> 03:08:54.399
Hey. Hey. How has the issues at the tech

03:08:52.479 --> 03:08:59.200
house been going? Any big projects coming soon? Apparently, we're going on

03:08:56.720 --> 03:09:03.760
Tuesday with an excavator and we're just going to go ham on the backyard because

03:09:01.760 --> 03:09:07.760
there's like a stop work thing while we apply for some permit stuff, but it

03:09:06.000 --> 03:09:13.279
doesn't apply to the outside. >> Okay. >> So, we're just uh Jordan's organizing it

03:09:10.640 --> 03:09:17.359
and there's a signup sheet with like what tools you have and can bring.

03:09:15.600 --> 03:09:21.760
>> He seems reasonable enough. I'm sure he called before he's digging.

03:09:18.640 --> 03:09:24.160
>> Uh yes, yes, yes. BC1 call was informed.

03:09:21.760 --> 03:09:27.600
So, we're So, we're just going for it, apparently. Uh, the thumbnail will

03:09:25.840 --> 03:09:32.319
involve me in an excavator. I'll see you there.

03:09:29.359 --> 03:09:37.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good luck, everyone.

03:09:35.120 --> 03:09:43.200
How do you suggest I deal with a vendor whose entire software seems vibe coded

03:09:40.399 --> 03:09:47.840
and doesn't do good QA work? It's hard being between admin, who wrote the

03:09:45.200 --> 03:09:51.840
contract without teeth, and supporting poor software.

03:09:49.680 --> 03:09:58.560
>> I think you're boned. Yeah, get out of there. Uh, >> they can't. Admin signed up for it, so

03:09:56.319 --> 03:10:02.640
they're just stuck with it. >> We've never experienced that.

03:10:00.560 --> 03:10:06.800
>> Really? Why? What did I What did I sign up for? >> This wasn't you.

03:10:04.160 --> 03:10:12.319
>> What did Oh. Oh, okay.

03:10:09.600 --> 03:10:17.279
>> I I seek people's input on decisions when I know that I'm over my head,

03:10:15.279 --> 03:10:20.880
>> especially when signing a contract. I don't sign contracts lightly.

03:10:19.359 --> 03:10:24.800
>> Yeah. Um, >> I've learned

03:10:23.680 --> 03:10:30.800
I think >> I don't know. Seek see Oh, man. Seek it

03:10:27.439 --> 03:10:33.359
out if you can. Um, there is very often

03:10:30.800 --> 03:10:37.279
early termination >> stuff, but it might be better to deal

03:10:35.520 --> 03:10:42.760
with an early termination fee than to deal with something that's just completely unusable. Um,

03:10:43.279 --> 03:10:49.840
yeah. >> Cool. get in contact with someone who might be able to make some change and

03:10:47.359 --> 03:10:53.279
and raise some stink. Flag all the ways that they've just been really really

03:10:51.120 --> 03:10:57.920
terrible basically and be like, "Yeah, we can't work with you guys. Let us out

03:10:55.279 --> 03:11:03.040
and see what happens." Hey, DLL, I loved the recent video about

03:11:01.040 --> 03:11:07.200
comparing the MacBook Neo with other Windows laptops. But is that video

03:11:05.359 --> 03:11:11.359
intended to be the full review of the Neo?

03:11:08.800 --> 03:11:14.720
>> No. Um, the Neo launched while I was away for a fairly extended period of

03:11:13.439 --> 03:11:20.000
time. So, they did a ShortCircuit while I was gone. And then the question was, okay, well, like what kind of MacBook

03:11:18.560 --> 03:11:24.479
Neo content can we do that would be additive. And so, I died it for actually

03:11:22.720 --> 03:11:29.200
a few weeks now, now that I think about it, it's been out for a while. Um, and

03:11:26.399 --> 03:11:32.880
basically from when I got back to like a couple days ago, I've been dailying the

03:11:30.800 --> 03:11:37.600
Neo. I really like it overall. I definitely ran into some some weird

03:11:34.319 --> 03:11:41.279
issues, but overall really liked it. And

03:11:37.600 --> 03:11:42.880
um one of the ideas was MacBook Neo

03:11:41.279 --> 03:11:47.120
30-day challenge. But honestly, it wasn't even enough of like a challenge

03:11:44.319 --> 03:11:51.279
for me to have that much to say. And so it ended up getting rolled into

03:11:49.600 --> 03:11:56.640
one of the other ideas we had, which is comparing the Neo to other similarly

03:11:53.200 --> 03:11:58.560
priced Windows machines. And um so what

03:11:56.640 --> 03:12:03.600
I ended up doing was just using some of the insight that I gained dailying the

03:12:00.479 --> 03:12:05.279
Neo to make a better comparison video

03:12:03.600 --> 03:12:08.000
that was just more informed by my own personal experiences. So, I think I

03:12:07.040 --> 03:12:12.479
don't know if you're going to get a full review of the Neo on Linus Tech Tips.

03:12:10.080 --> 03:12:17.200
Uh, I think that was probably it. In terms of additional context that I

03:12:14.319 --> 03:12:21.040
would, you know, add at this time. Not much. Uh, if you're really reliant on,

03:12:19.279 --> 03:12:24.800
you know, a high-speed external dock, I would say the Neo can be a bit of a

03:12:22.319 --> 03:12:29.600
downer, but other than that, I just really liked it. I if I was buying one

03:12:27.120 --> 03:12:35.120
again, I'd spring for the Touch ID model just cuz like going back to Windows

03:12:32.399 --> 03:12:41.279
Hello and going back to a MacBook with Touch ID is just plain better

03:12:38.960 --> 03:12:45.200
and you also get more storage. But really, I when I think it's going to be

03:12:42.560 --> 03:12:50.479
killer is like Neo2. I want the 12 gigs of RAM that supposedly will be supported

03:12:47.200 --> 03:12:52.080
with like an A19 Pro and uh just a

03:12:50.479 --> 03:12:55.359
little bit more speed. It's going to be like

03:12:53.600 --> 03:13:00.160
Neo2 is going to be if Apple can keep the price the sameish, it's just going

03:12:57.760 --> 03:13:05.120
to slay. It's just going to be no competition left to fight.

03:13:02.800 --> 03:13:08.080
>> Neo is eating Valve's lunch right now. Gaming is growing. I'm so confused by

03:13:07.680 --> 03:13:11.479
that. >> No, it's not.

03:13:11.760 --> 03:13:15.279
>> What? What? What? >> Don't worry about it. That's not a

03:13:14.960 --> 03:13:18.720
thing. >> What? What? >> No.

03:13:18.000 --> 03:13:22.880
>> What? >> No. >> Huh? >> No. What?

03:13:21.520 --> 03:13:26.720
>> No. >> All right, Dan. What's next? >> What?

03:13:24.880 --> 03:13:31.920
>> I'm going to need a couple couple weeks to get over that. Um, will we ever see

03:13:29.520 --> 03:13:37.120
the return of techtrivia answered in the form of a question? Missed that show.

03:13:34.640 --> 03:13:43.120
Also, why does LTLS.com have more GPU data on it? For example,

03:13:39.439 --> 03:13:45.279
there's a review of the 9060 but no data

03:13:43.120 --> 03:13:50.160
or why doesn't they're asking. Uh, that's something they're working on.

03:13:46.399 --> 03:13:51.840
They're working on getting all the GPUs

03:13:50.160 --> 03:13:56.000
on the site, but it, you know, just takes time. Um, and especially when

03:13:53.840 --> 03:13:59.840
there's no video demand for that data, then it has to fit in with the articles

03:13:58.000 --> 03:14:04.319
and videos and short circuits and everything that they're supporting behind the scenes. As for Tech Trivia

03:14:02.880 --> 03:14:10.880
answered in the form of a question, never. Uh, I felt so bad for everyone

03:14:08.960 --> 03:14:16.800
who participated in that, all the creators. The questions were so hard

03:14:14.960 --> 03:14:22.560
because I was intended to be a participant. I never got to review them.

03:14:19.120 --> 03:14:25.279
And I was just basically, if you go back

03:14:22.560 --> 03:14:30.960
and watch it through this lens, you can see me desperately

03:14:27.600 --> 03:14:32.640
trying to make it not seem like horrible

03:14:30.960 --> 03:14:38.880
that nobody knows the answer to anything. And like because the questions

03:14:36.000 --> 03:14:43.920
were so hard and I didn't actually know that normally

03:14:41.359 --> 03:14:46.640
um like on Jeopardy you're supposed to like they're primed on what the

03:14:45.359 --> 03:14:50.479
questions will be about. It's not random. >> Oh, they know like the topics.

03:14:48.800 --> 03:14:53.120
>> Yeah. So they can like study ahead of time and stuff. >> Interesting.

03:14:51.840 --> 03:14:57.760
>> Cuz like Yeah. Otherwise, why would anyone know the exact year of that stupid thing? Of course, that makes

03:14:55.920 --> 03:15:01.920
sense now in retrospect, but I didn't know that when we were setting up this

03:14:59.760 --> 03:15:08.000
thing. And apparently neither did any of our >> coordinators for this project. So like

03:15:06.080 --> 03:15:10.960
>> I mean there's some people that we worked with on that that I don't think

03:15:09.359 --> 03:15:14.960
ever worked with us again. >> And like I was too embarrassed to ask

03:15:12.880 --> 03:15:19.520
even people that are like I would say you know relatively like friends. Um

03:15:17.840 --> 03:15:24.880
like I just didn't even ask them for a long time because it was just like kind

03:15:21.279 --> 03:15:27.200
of embarrassing across the board. Um

03:15:24.880 --> 03:15:31.359
yeah it was that was that did not go well.

03:15:29.120 --> 03:15:36.560
the the second half of the Oh. >> Oh, sorry.

03:15:33.279 --> 03:15:37.680
>> Uh, it was about uh GPUs on the Labs

03:15:36.560 --> 03:15:41.760
website. >> Um,

03:15:39.840 --> 03:15:45.439
sure. I mean, I'm just going to talk generally about GPUs on the lab's

03:15:43.120 --> 03:15:52.000
website, so it's probably okay. Um, the lab's website is is interesting. Uh,

03:15:49.359 --> 03:15:55.920
people will read the articles. Lucas will post them on Reddit and then people

03:15:54.239 --> 03:16:00.319
will see them there and then come read the articles and that's all that's all

03:15:57.520 --> 03:16:07.279
cool and stuff. Um, nobody looks at the the product pages.

03:16:04.399 --> 03:16:09.760
Um, the the product pages get we've we've tried a bunch of different things

03:16:08.560 --> 03:16:15.920
to make them interesting, but realistically I think just like print

03:16:12.880 --> 03:16:17.600
reviews these days like hey I wonder if

03:16:15.920 --> 03:16:22.800
there's a reason why all the written review sites are dying. Uh, who knows?

03:16:20.319 --> 03:16:27.200
Uh, I think we we, you know, might have found out. So, we're we're figuring out

03:16:25.359 --> 03:16:32.239
what we actually want to do with this stuff. The articles have been doing

03:16:28.560 --> 03:16:34.880
well, like I said. Um, and we we think

03:16:32.239 --> 03:16:40.560
there's a future in tools, like the the whole versus mode thing, um, where you

03:16:37.840 --> 03:16:45.520
can like look at two different products uh, side by side and and see the

03:16:42.640 --> 03:16:51.359
comparison. Um, this is a a particularly cool part of

03:16:48.160 --> 03:16:53.120
it. Um, being able to I guess we don't

03:16:51.359 --> 03:16:58.479
have the size data for one of them, but uh being able to look at them side by

03:16:54.479 --> 03:17:00.479
side. Um, GPUs in particular is

03:16:58.479 --> 03:17:06.479
something that we weren't uploading for a while uh for long boring reasons. Um,

03:17:04.720 --> 03:17:13.680
and as some people have noticed, we have started again uh putting some GPUs up

03:17:09.600 --> 03:17:19.680
there, but like uh keeping the product

03:17:13.680 --> 03:17:22.880
reviews populated on the site is not a

03:17:19.680 --> 03:17:26.160
highlevel high priority goal for the lab

03:17:22.880 --> 03:17:32.160
because I think just in 2026

03:17:26.160 --> 03:17:34.479
that's not uh a like lowhanging fruit or

03:17:32.160 --> 03:17:38.160
a particularly valuable fruit for pretty much anyone. We are seeing again

03:17:36.720 --> 03:17:43.279
traction with the articles. So, we've been pursuing that more. Um, that's

03:17:41.439 --> 03:17:47.520
that's been kind of fun and and and interesting for us, more fun and

03:17:45.120 --> 03:17:53.520
interesting than just farting out more um like just stream of consciousness

03:17:50.319 --> 03:17:55.279
product reviews. Um, and also you guys

03:17:53.520 --> 03:18:01.359
are resonating with it more as well. So, we're kind of reacting to

03:17:58.800 --> 03:18:05.439
honestly what what you guys want. We do think some of this is because of search

03:18:03.279 --> 03:18:09.120
engine stuff with AI, but yeah, >> apparently no, you do not get

03:18:07.200 --> 03:18:14.359
information of any sort ahead of time on Jeopardy. So, I was misinformed.

03:18:10.960 --> 03:18:14.359
>> Oh, all right.

03:18:17.359 --> 03:18:23.359
>> Stealing your thunder. >> There's some people saying like, is this

03:18:20.880 --> 03:18:27.439
a uh I lost it, but somebody somebody

03:18:25.439 --> 03:18:31.040
basically mentioned, is it Yeah. Is it a discovery problem? Um,

03:18:29.520 --> 03:18:34.239
>> well, we happened to start publishing written articles right around the same

03:18:32.560 --> 03:18:38.720
time that written started getting killed by AI.

03:18:36.239 --> 03:18:44.399
>> Yeah. Uh, they also said wire cutters profitable. Yeah. Wire cutters. Like

03:18:41.200 --> 03:18:47.120
when I go to their front page, um, we

03:18:44.399 --> 03:18:51.200
took hundreds of walks to find five dog leashes we love.

03:18:49.439 --> 03:18:55.840
>> Get that affiliate revenue from that mainstream content.

03:18:53.279 --> 03:19:02.319
>> Yeah, that's it's not it's not power supplies. Um, and also

03:19:00.479 --> 03:19:05.040
this isn't even a profit play. The lab's website doesn't have any ads on it. I

03:19:03.920 --> 03:19:11.600
don't know. I don't know if like so many of you run ad blocker that you never realized, but but like there there is

03:19:09.439 --> 03:19:17.279
this is non ad blocker. There's no ads on the lab site anywhere. It's no part

03:19:14.720 --> 03:19:23.359
of this is a is a profit play. We we made a there's there's information out

03:19:19.520 --> 03:19:26.319
there and through usage statistics, we

03:19:23.359 --> 03:19:33.040
kind of figured out that people uh don't really want to read text reviews in

03:19:29.600 --> 03:19:36.080
2026. So that's okay. Uh we also figured

03:19:33.040 --> 03:19:37.520
out that people are fairly interested in

03:19:36.080 --> 03:19:44.160
like the the articles we've been writing. So great. Uh it's just fairly

03:19:40.479 --> 03:19:47.840
natural like reacting to what people

03:19:44.160 --> 03:19:51.040
want. That's it. Cool.

03:19:47.840 --> 03:19:53.200
To Lionus, also an adult with braces.

03:19:51.040 --> 03:19:58.000
Nice. I'm happy with how straight my teeth are progressing, but I'm bummed

03:19:55.040 --> 03:20:04.319
about the things I no longer eat for fear of breaking a bracket. Are there

03:20:00.560 --> 03:20:08.160
foods you now avoid? Nope. I was always

03:20:04.319 --> 03:20:10.239
a completely non-compliant client. I

03:20:08.160 --> 03:20:16.800
would eat popcorn. I' I've chewed chewing gum with these because I'm

03:20:12.160 --> 03:20:19.840
crazy. Uh I eat apples. I um for me the

03:20:16.800 --> 03:20:21.840
only real obstacle is like pain because

03:20:19.840 --> 03:20:27.520
these brackets sit super proud. These stupid ceramic braces that I hate. Um

03:20:24.720 --> 03:20:31.920
but in terms of like going easy, man, I'll eat corn on the cob. It just it's

03:20:29.840 --> 03:20:36.960
it's like creamed corn at that point cuz you're just you're kind of mashing it

03:20:33.120 --> 03:20:39.120
from both sides, you know?

03:20:36.960 --> 03:20:45.200
Double chew. Hey LLD, I am the head of engineering at

03:20:42.399 --> 03:20:48.239
a drone show company that did a 1000 drone show for the YouTube creator

03:20:46.720 --> 03:20:52.720
conference last week. Are you >> heard you were there and wanted to know

03:20:49.920 --> 03:21:00.560
your thoughts here? Why have my thoughts when you can have my video that I

03:20:54.720 --> 03:21:04.080
recorded of it? Um here. Where is it?

03:21:00.560 --> 03:21:05.359
I think I think this will do. Oh yeah.

03:21:04.080 --> 03:21:11.040
Here we go, bud. Here. I'll send this over to you. Okay. Done. >> Uh sure. Cool. In the meantime, let's do

03:21:09.359 --> 03:21:15.600
another one while we wait for file downloads and such.

03:21:13.760 --> 03:21:18.960
Hi, Lionus and Luke. What's your favorite board game to play on a game

03:21:17.120 --> 03:21:23.279
night? You should check out the Pac-Man board game corridor. Such a great such a

03:21:21.760 --> 03:21:27.680
great time. Anyway, thanks for the free shipping. >> Fun.

03:21:25.520 --> 03:21:28.800
>> And it's not close. >> Sorry, board game.

03:21:28.560 --> 03:21:36.800
>> Yep. >> They have a board game. >> Yeah. >> Oh, cool. >> It's so good, actually.

03:21:33.439 --> 03:21:39.120
8.7 on board game geek which is unbiased

03:21:36.800 --> 03:21:43.920
take because he you know would normally hate anything slay the spire.

03:21:40.720 --> 03:21:46.560
>> Oh it definitely definitely uh one one

03:21:43.920 --> 03:21:51.120
to four players. It's co-op. It's really good. Um it it gets each player

03:21:49.279 --> 03:21:56.160
involved. Um that's cool. >> I'm not surprised it's it's pretty

03:21:52.720 --> 03:21:57.920
highly rated. Um, everyone that I know

03:21:56.160 --> 03:22:02.640
that has played it, including people that have never played the video game,

03:22:01.040 --> 03:22:06.080
including people that don't even like video games, every single person has

03:22:04.720 --> 03:22:09.520
liked it. >> That's cool.

03:22:07.840 --> 03:22:16.800
>> Uh, I play whatever my kids like. They've been really into Munchkin lately. Um, it's pretty basic, you know,

03:22:13.760 --> 03:22:19.439
as far as like being into cool board

03:22:16.800 --> 03:22:24.560
games go, but uh, yeah, they they enjoy the heck out of it. Um, uh, we like, uh,

03:22:22.720 --> 03:22:28.680
we like Clank as a family as well. That one's fun. Um,

03:22:28.960 --> 03:22:34.080
cards. The thing that, uh, that I get the most

03:22:32.399 --> 03:22:37.680
requests for from my kids is Let's Play Hearts. Um, I got them into it a little

03:22:36.239 --> 03:22:44.640
while ago, and it's it's such a good game. It's, uh, just that the things can

03:22:42.800 --> 03:22:49.720
get heated sometimes around the Queen of Spades, though. People who play will

03:22:46.720 --> 03:22:49.720
know.

03:22:50.000 --> 03:22:55.600
ready for that video if you guys are. >> Yeah, you can throw up the video. >> Let's see. What do I do? I think it's go

03:22:55.200 --> 03:23:00.640
now. >> Recorded horizontally because I'm not an animal

03:22:59.200 --> 03:23:06.239
and I don't have audio on. >> That's fine. That's good. >> What is this?

03:23:03.120 --> 03:23:08.960
>> Uh, it's a drone show.

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You may want to Oh, is there a way to >> play it back faster?

03:23:10.399 --> 03:23:19.200
>> I can I can take it through. >> Oh, okay. Uh, so yeah, this was cool.

03:23:15.760 --> 03:23:22.000
I was amazed at how stable they were.

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Look how flipping stable these are.

03:23:24.479 --> 03:23:31.359
>> Yeah, >> pretty cool. So, yeah, they did uh they

03:23:29.200 --> 03:23:34.960
did a drone show and it basically probably the coolest one was the globe,

03:23:33.120 --> 03:23:38.560
but I don't think I caught that one. Here they are reconfiguring. They did a

03:23:36.399 --> 03:23:41.920
nanat. This one's pretty cool. Maybe let it play for a second.

03:23:39.439 --> 03:23:43.920
>> Yeah, it it just looks really bad. >> Yeah, when you don't let it play.

03:23:43.359 --> 03:23:48.800
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh it I I had never seen one

03:23:46.479 --> 03:23:55.520
before. This was my first time. Uh it was it was cooler than I expected

03:23:53.600 --> 03:24:00.399
and I really liked the way that they kind of

03:23:58.239 --> 03:24:05.439
had you watch the transitions between the different things, but you would have

03:24:03.279 --> 03:24:08.560
like you'd have to be clairvoyant to, you know, realize exactly what they were

03:24:07.040 --> 03:24:11.200
going to be going for on the next one. Yeah, it was uh it was very cool. They

03:24:10.080 --> 03:24:17.359
had a they had a couple different things. They had someone um on one of

03:24:14.239 --> 03:24:18.960
those like like with a a jet thing on

03:24:17.359 --> 03:24:22.720
their hands and then one on their back like in a like a jet suit. So he kind of

03:24:21.040 --> 03:24:27.520
flew around a little bit and then they had sky divers that um

03:24:26.160 --> 03:24:30.880
dropped out of a plane. They had like sparklers behind them as they like came

03:24:29.359 --> 03:24:36.160
down through the sky and then they deployed their parachutes and then they like ripped like right over our heads

03:24:34.399 --> 03:24:40.160
and landed in the field there. So it was Yeah, it was a pretty it was a pretty cool show.

03:24:37.840 --> 03:24:44.399
>> Wow. Hey Elinus, time to finally use my gift

03:24:42.160 --> 03:24:51.760
cards. They also brought out Oprah. What? >> To do a talk. Yeah. I mean, she's the OG

03:24:48.000 --> 03:24:54.800
content creator. Think about it.

03:24:51.760 --> 03:24:57.200
She started just in like local news and

03:24:54.800 --> 03:25:01.439
made her built her built her empire into her own show, her own network, and she

03:24:59.840 --> 03:25:06.800
recently joined YouTube. So, it's pretty on topic. >> So, we have Oprah to blame for shorts.

03:25:05.359 --> 03:25:09.920
>> I would say I would say >> that domino meme. I would say not so

03:25:09.120 --> 03:25:15.840
much. >> Sounds like it to me. >> Oh, Oprah goes on TV. Dominoes fall

03:25:13.359 --> 03:25:19.359
down. Now we are talking about disabling shorts with a timer.

03:25:17.680 --> 03:25:23.760
>> Are you looking up Oprah's channel? Yes, >> I did. Yeah. >> Yeah.

03:25:21.760 --> 03:25:27.040
>> Did you mog Oprah? You have more subscribers than Oprah.

03:25:25.200 --> 03:25:34.000
>> Well, yeah, for now. >> Plus ratio.

03:25:30.640 --> 03:25:36.640
>> Her view counts are all over the place.

03:25:34.000 --> 03:25:43.760
>> Wow. Oh, yeah. You got 1 million. >> 5,000. 1 million 2.8,000

03:25:40.000 --> 03:25:46.640
>> 2.3 million.

03:25:43.760 --> 03:25:50.080
>> Yeah. Like all over the place. I' I don't think I've ever seen a channel

03:25:47.920 --> 03:25:53.920
with a spread like that. And not like to be clear, I've seen channels that have

03:25:51.920 --> 03:25:57.840
one video with 5 million views and like a bunch with 500 views, like where they

03:25:55.600 --> 03:26:04.720
had like one viral hit. But the fact that she goes between like functionally

03:26:01.600 --> 03:26:05.840
zero views and millions of views from

03:26:04.720 --> 03:26:10.160
one upload to the next. >> I was thinking like, okay, did this did

03:26:08.000 --> 03:26:12.880
go gentle or whatever did they like buy a bunch of views on that? But then this

03:26:12.319 --> 03:26:19.920
one >> Yep. >> 2.5 for there. >> Yep. It's just all over the place, man.

03:26:18.319 --> 03:26:26.080
>> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. This is This doesn't

03:26:23.520 --> 03:26:30.239
matter, but Oh, it's just a little bit weird that it's always the third video

03:26:27.920 --> 03:26:34.800
in >> Oh,

03:26:32.640 --> 03:26:37.920
okay. Okay. Not always. >> Oh, no. Once it broke off.

03:26:36.720 --> 03:26:41.040
>> Yep. Okay. >> But it has like the same cadence for

03:26:39.760 --> 03:26:46.800
when it'll just pop off. >> Just pops once in a while.

03:26:44.000 --> 03:26:53.120
>> But it's like roughly every four videos they go from

03:26:48.880 --> 03:26:56.640
single digit thousands. It's clips.

03:26:53.120 --> 03:26:59.359
Oh, is it interesting?

03:26:56.640 --> 03:27:06.000
So, the mainline. Yeah, the main It's the long videos. Okay. So,

03:27:03.359 --> 03:27:11.200
yeah, 46 minutes and it gets 2.3 million views and then these little cuts of that

03:27:08.720 --> 03:27:15.840
video get only a few views. >> So, this is LMG clips, but Oprah

03:27:14.399 --> 03:27:20.239
>> basically. God, >> it's just not super obvious without

03:27:17.920 --> 03:27:23.920
looking at the length or the view count which one is the primary video. So, this

03:27:21.920 --> 03:27:28.080
one's an hour, 2.5 million views. >> Do you think it's set up as a podcast

03:27:25.520 --> 03:27:30.800
and they're not actually listening to YouTube? Maybe

03:27:29.040 --> 03:27:35.600
>> they're listening to the podcast. >> Maybe. >> I don't know cuz our W show playlist on

03:27:33.760 --> 03:27:39.040
the LT channel is a podcast, >> but there's a separate podcast tab.

03:27:37.359 --> 03:27:45.439
Would that have podcasts in So, go to the Oprah podcast, 74 episodes, and

03:27:42.080 --> 03:27:47.279
those should be the same videos because

03:27:45.439 --> 03:27:50.239
a podcast is just a type of playlist.

03:27:49.200 --> 03:27:54.000
>> Yeah, they totally are. >> So, this is going out to RSS feeds.

03:27:52.640 --> 03:28:00.760
>> So, heard podcast is >> Her podcast is very popular. Got it.

03:27:57.200 --> 03:28:00.760
>> That makes sense.

03:28:01.439 --> 03:28:06.560
>> Oh, okay. >> Sorry to hear that, Wy Giraffe.

03:28:05.040 --> 03:28:12.880
They have to go be social instead of hanging and watching my >> disgusting. Sorry. Sorry. Just gonna

03:28:10.080 --> 03:28:17.359
>> Sorry for your loss. >> Don't come back. Okay. Hey, L. It's time

03:28:15.439 --> 03:28:20.800
to finally use my gift cards. Is there something that you know your team could

03:28:19.279 --> 03:28:28.080
improve, but it's never going to be profitable or marketable for it being

03:28:23.439 --> 03:28:30.319
just too niche or too specialized?

03:28:28.080 --> 03:28:36.000
>> Um, I don't know. Our posture.

03:28:32.800 --> 03:28:39.520
I think I think they meant like products

03:28:36.000 --> 03:28:40.160
>> like Oh, oh, like the CW team.

03:28:39.520 --> 03:28:46.880
>> Yeah. >> Uh oh. >> So, so a chair then.

03:28:43.840 --> 03:28:48.880
>> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. Sandals.

03:28:46.880 --> 03:28:56.399
>> I think that we could improve the desk pads and um and no one would care. You

03:28:54.160 --> 03:29:00.080
can ever so slightly because it stretches in one direction but not the

03:28:58.160 --> 03:29:03.279
other direction. you can ever so slightly detect if you like kind of

03:29:01.600 --> 03:29:08.319
press hard and move a thing that it's like a little bit oval tracking, like a

03:29:05.279 --> 03:29:10.160
little bit. Um, and literally after all

03:29:08.319 --> 03:29:15.279
these years of us selling hundreds of thousands of desk pads, no one's ever

03:29:11.760 --> 03:29:17.760
noticed or cared. Um, so yeah, we could

03:29:15.279 --> 03:29:20.720
do it and no one will care. So we we had we had talked about in the early days,

03:29:19.359 --> 03:29:28.080
>> you're going to get complaints now. >> Yeah, whatever. Get >> I knew the whole time I knew something

03:29:23.600 --> 03:29:30.160
was off. Uh, DOUG. YEP. YEP. YEP.

03:29:28.080 --> 03:29:35.760
IN the early days of Kyle being here, we had talked about doing like a pro cloth

03:29:31.760 --> 03:29:38.640
desk pad that uh was uh either the same

03:29:35.760 --> 03:29:45.600
stretch in both axis or no stretch and just kind of never got to it.

03:29:42.239 --> 03:29:48.080
>> Lus, how is the team liking the the new

03:29:45.600 --> 03:29:54.160
Ubiquiti EV chargers? I just got a Toyota BZ and am in the market for

03:29:51.600 --> 03:29:57.520
getting level two chargers. I mean the I think the team likes any charger they

03:29:55.920 --> 03:30:03.520
get to use at the office because they don't pay for it.

03:29:59.920 --> 03:30:06.960
They seem fine so far.

03:30:03.520 --> 03:30:10.560
Is there any new screen tech to replace

03:30:06.960 --> 03:30:14.479
OLED? If not, what options exist for

03:30:10.560 --> 03:30:16.720
iPhone 11 users? Me sensitive to PWM

03:30:14.479 --> 03:30:21.120
flicker who prefer Apple's ecosystem. iPhone 17 is a no-go. OLED causes

03:30:19.439 --> 03:30:25.040
headaches/nausea. Wow, that's uh that's rough, dude,

03:30:23.120 --> 03:30:30.600
because on mobile everything's going OLED. >> I have heard of this.

03:30:27.600 --> 03:30:30.600
>> Um

03:30:30.800 --> 03:30:38.000
yikes. Like micro LED. I know Apple was putting a bunch of investment into that

03:30:35.520 --> 03:30:43.160
supposedly maybe for the Apple Watch at some point. >> Have you seen these? Um,

03:30:44.800 --> 03:30:51.600
I have seen things that do that not from

03:30:48.319 --> 03:30:53.279
that company like like a like a like a

03:30:51.600 --> 03:30:58.880
no, you know. >> Yeah, >> I have seen displays

03:30:56.239 --> 03:31:02.560
>> super modern being shown just to developers right now. I wasn't sure if

03:31:00.960 --> 03:31:05.520
you'd seen or heard of it. >> Um, yeah, it's definitely a thing from

03:31:04.160 --> 03:31:10.479
other brands. I haven't seen theirs though. >> Okay. Okay. Um,

03:31:09.120 --> 03:31:12.880
>> the reason why I asked you in that way was I didn't know if it was public or not.

03:31:12.239 --> 03:31:18.399
>> Yeah, I'm not sure. >> Yeah. So, >> man, and even microledd, like I wonder

03:31:16.080 --> 03:31:24.080
if you'd have the same kind of PWM control flicker. I I feel for you, man.

03:31:22.319 --> 03:31:29.680
>> I I'm sorry. I wish I had an answer for you.

03:31:25.840 --> 03:31:31.520
The last one I have today, Edge DLL, the

03:31:29.680 --> 03:31:35.279
hoodies I got the past few years have really come in handy during my first

03:31:33.040 --> 03:31:39.080
winter here in northern Sweden. I think it's pronounced hey

03:31:39.920 --> 03:31:47.520
>> nice. >> Any new designs coming with the same

03:31:44.800 --> 03:31:50.319
hoodie as the circuit tree one? I love that.

03:31:49.680 --> 03:31:56.319
>> Oh, >> yeah. The funny one that was a tree that was a circuit. The circuit tree. Um

03:31:55.120 --> 03:32:00.000
>> I thought they just didn't know how to spell it and they meant the framework one.

03:31:58.960 --> 03:32:05.600
>> No. Yeah, not that one. >> But but I got you. >> Just because they're foreign.

03:32:03.279 --> 03:32:10.399
>> Yeah. So cancelled

03:32:08.479 --> 03:32:15.760
>> just because they spelled hey wrong. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah.

03:32:13.359 --> 03:32:22.479
>> Isn't this one just our blank? >> I think so. Pretty sure.

03:32:17.359 --> 03:32:25.600
>> Yeah. I'm I'm pretty sure that um

03:32:22.479 --> 03:32:27.840
any colored blank hoodie should be this

03:32:25.600 --> 03:32:31.040
one. It's funny that that's the one you like

03:32:29.279 --> 03:32:37.720
so much because I' I'd say it's one of the less unique ones that we have. Uh

03:32:34.000 --> 03:32:37.720
oh. Is our site down?

03:32:40.160 --> 03:32:48.239
>> Oh, okay. >> We've been having some minor Wi-Fi issues. >> Oh, brilliant. Okay, Tops.

03:32:46.720 --> 03:32:53.439
So, man, I'm afraid to say something wrong.

03:32:50.479 --> 03:32:59.200
Message support just in case, but I'm pretty sure this is literally it. This

03:32:56.720 --> 03:33:03.359
is the circuitry hoodie but without the circuitry.

03:33:01.040 --> 03:33:09.600
Um, so it's just our our blank hoodie for 60 CAD. And I believe the same one

03:33:07.520 --> 03:33:15.920
should be obtainable. Oh yeah, I guess we just never did any other prints on

03:33:11.920 --> 03:33:17.359
it. So yeah, pick up the blank hoodie.

03:33:15.920 --> 03:33:22.560
Neat. Good chat. >> That's all I got. >> That's all you got? Well, that means

03:33:20.319 --> 03:33:26.239
that's all I got. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad

03:33:24.160 --> 03:33:29.840
channel. If you are bored and looking for something to do, hey, you can always

03:33:27.600 --> 03:33:35.600
go shopping on ltstore.com where we are running our shiptorm sale event. Orders

03:33:32.960 --> 03:33:39.680
over $150 uh on the US and oh wait, oh

03:33:38.000 --> 03:33:44.000
interesting. On the global site, the threshold is lower for Canada. I did not

03:33:42.160 --> 03:33:47.680
know that. Okay. Well, whatever. Whatever site you're on and wherever you

03:33:45.680 --> 03:33:50.800
live past a certain threshold, you can get free shipping on your entire order.

03:33:49.279 --> 03:33:56.399
And if you sign up for Floatplane, LMG.gg/flatplane, GG/flatplane.

03:33:53.359 --> 03:33:57.920
The thresholds go down even more after

03:33:56.399 --> 03:34:01.520
you link your account. So, it's a great time to sign up for Floatplane for early

03:33:59.840 --> 03:34:06.680
access content, blah blah, etc., etc. See you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye.