The WAN Show - Time Warner Cable 97% Profit on Internet?? Also Other Things - Feb 6, 2015
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2015-05-07
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all right guys welcome to the WAN Show the live show every week at
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approximately 4:30 Pacific time I like
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cables like this can you really say approximately when it's always after cuz
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it's never no it has been before when you're not here when my brother and I
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host it sometimes we start it like 5 minutes early just to troll wow that is
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a that is a different type of trolling it's like it's it's the kind of trolling
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we often have around here trping tring you've never heard of tring
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no yeah that's something that we do all the time it's helpful
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trolling where you're like here's the answer but in the most obnoxious
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possible way I I hope it made you happy jackass
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yeah uh so guys we've got a great show for you today there's big updates with
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respect to Net Neutrality as well as the title 2 reclassification of the
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interwebs and yeah yeah basically all
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good news there Android 5.0 Lollipop so
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far is a gigantic turd I mean we often point at well okay we'll talk about it
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later basically the adoption of it is
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very teeny tiny very
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small can I have some more
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lollipops wasn't he small wasn't that part of the story uh Oliver Twist no he
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was just a kid I thought he was a small kid he was an orphan yeah I mean he was
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smaller than his parents but you can't prove it cuz they weren't exactly
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around I think I I tasted some Cards
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Against Humanity there I think I think I was coming back yeah that's going to be
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fun we've got our uh a new format for Channel Super Fun coming up we we're
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calling it games night we play games yep
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the first one is Cards Against Humanity so it will probably be the most inappropriate one of all of them and out
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of anything we've ever released yeah what else we got for topics today we
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have am I starting well I did the first two already you already did them yeah the
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lollipop thing and the uh neutrality thing I remember now I derailed that so
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hard that I forgot where the rails were derail by the time I got to my
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destination anyways China is going to require real name registration to be
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able to use the internet so also Nintendo creators
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program there's more revisions on that yeah there's more Nintendo creators
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program revisions and they're bad so I got the good news and the amusing news
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you just got the terrible hor that suck crappy news things that suck with lonus
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and Luke let's roll Dead
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intro no you didn't clench hard enough oh I am ready to do this though oh
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cool usually and I think it's funny
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they won't necessarily fall at the same rate in a vacuum they would yes so you
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right that's true so mass the mass is
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not important well but on their website more mass does make it drop further it
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would drop further if it had more mass so they're defying the laws of
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let's go ahead and uh oh hey we've got
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okay let's go into our first topic right
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right early early on here and we're going to try and get this out of the way
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extremely quickly we're bringing in I I don't know people are people are asking
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Linda to teach us
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physics oh that's beautiful if there was anything that could teach us physics it
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would be linda.com but linda.com powers are only
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are only so uh magnificent and uh there
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there is there is a limit there is a limit to what linda.com can do teaching
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us physics I think Falls outside of that limit um okay so we are calling in a
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special guest Mr Ryan Shrout to come in
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and give us the once and for all he's
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his set and everything he's on his set usually he's like shirtless and I have
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to crop around around his head hold on Ryan don't talk yet I have to turn you
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down in the uh in the volume thing uh mixer that's the word thank
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you boop boop all right then I have to add
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you add Ryan tro everyone's saying
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lineus spec tips lus spec tips oh yes I
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am wearing glasses today isn't that fun
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all right so welcome to the show Mr shout we are going to put to rest the
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whole NVIDIA thing once and for all and we're going to kick this right off with
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okay this is what this is what our viewers said to us last week are you
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telling me you know looking us looking in the eye making eye contact are you
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telling me that no one at NVIDIA caught
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this no engineer ever looked at the spec
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page once it was released and caught it and mentioned this they're saying that's
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completely unbelievable I'd like to hear sort of the the flip side of that
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argument I I would believe that it was
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not caught until fairly recently only
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because the the the now we're talking
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about the r and uh cash size changes
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only not the memory pool differences uh
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but if you look at that like those those specific points those specifications are
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not really listed on GeForce.com they're not really listed on NVIDIA's website as
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far as I know the only place those were actually kind of published is in the
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reviewer guide that they sent to editors
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after the you know the launch day and before you know when we got all of our
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our test cards and stuff sure and so then it took us reading those documents
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and Publishing the incorrect information in your review and my review and
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everybody else's review out there um and
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I would find it uh I would find it
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probably difficult to believe that zero people inside a company that size took
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note of that like nobody said oh you know what it actually does doesn't have
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two Megs of L2 cach on there but I don't
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know if that person thought it was well it's not that big of a deal at this
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point the information's out there and performance is what it is and we'll just
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go about our business there I I I I don't think um you know I don't
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think there was like big meetings between PR and Engineering said oh no we
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have this discrepancy and should what do we do do
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we want to hide it and bury it or you want to bring it up and they decided to bury it I think it was more likely a
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the right people didn't notice uh and didn't didn't decided not to bring it up
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to the people that would actually care if this had been something that they had
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caught a week or two weeks into the 980 or 970 release I think they would have
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come forward with that part about it I think so okay so let me let me s i I'll
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I'll go and I'll play my audience's devil's advocacy once more and say okay
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if you were this was actually this was actually a really good point someone I
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feel bad because I forget their name but there was a really good point that someone brought up and that was if
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you're an engineer who slaved away on this GPU for literally
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years on launch day are you not sitting
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at your computer reading the reviews that people are making about this
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product that you spent so much of your time on like are you not even interested
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do you does every single one of them
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skip over the spec sheet because they know the
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spec um I would guess I I think I think
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I think it's it's a very valid point there I would guess that um many of the
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of the engineers and and marketing and and Technical people at NVIDIA or amb or
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Intel do what a lot of our readers do which is they kind of read that intro
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and then they kind of go to the end there and kind of get what what is this
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person's actual opinion on it I don't think they would really dive too much
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into um a descript like my description
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of the architecture that they built because they know it better than I do
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right maybe some of them did I you know I don't know uh and if if they would
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have found that discrepancy would they have brought it up to somebody
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probably uh it's it's a it's a tough
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it's a tough spot inidia in trying to convince people that that's that that
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wouldn't have happened I I think the memory thing is much more impactful to
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the consumer than the the cash and R concern necessarily um but so let's get
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into that then okay so okay so pla
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plausibly even an engineer who worked on the GPU might have missed that part of
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any review because why would they give a crap they don't need you to tell them
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how many shaders it has um but let's get
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into the memory speed bit because it's
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not the first time they've done it and
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it's not the first time that they haven't really talked about it so is the
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amount of butthurt out there Justified
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should there be a class action lawsuit um I
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don't if we get into the politics side of it is I tend to be on the uh
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persuasion of class action lawsuits are rarely necessary but I I I would say in
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this instance it's it's similar to what they and you're referring to what they
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did with the 550ti and the 660 Ti and how that memory configuration work
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compared to the 970 and it's similar in a couple ways and it's and it's
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different in several ways as well like the the the bandwidth discrepancy
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between the second pool of memory on the 660 Ti
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and the primary pool was not nearly the golf that we have with the 970 it didn't
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go from you know 184 gigs to 24 gigs per
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second or whatever it is yeah um and also it was a significantly higher
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percentage of the total frame buffer right so I think you were talking about
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a 2 gig frame buffer at that time of which 500 Megs was this kind of
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secondary pool so you're about 25% of the memory instead of8 of your memory um
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so it's it's so it's important there but I I would the internet tends to as you
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guys are well aware make things a little bit more um aggressive than they need to
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be maybe uh it they tend to amplify
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these problems more than they would be otherwise as you know the kind of the
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snowball begins to roll and petitions are formed and whatnot change.org yeah
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which Wasa changed anything the poor the most poorly wed uh petition to actually
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get something done I've ever read but you know what's funny I haven't read
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it I just assumed there was a change.org petition oh no there absolutely is oh
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there absolutely is and it was it was written it was maybe by no fault of his
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own it was written by a non-native English speaker so it's kind of like all
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in it broken up and it's like I don't really know what they're trying to tell me but I know what their intent is uh I
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I I think it's a I think it's something that's worth noting and I think NVIDIA
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should have if if I don't believe that
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they should have called it a 3.5 gig card but I think they should have been
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upfront with the the technical media to
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say hey some of this is a little bit
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different you know and we we both know NVIDIA very well they come up they could
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have made this a marketing uh positive
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as opposed card with overflow buffer RAM
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half a gig of backup memory 500 Megs of Super Cash 2.0 whatever crap they would
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have come up with right and they could have done that and they would have sold
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it as an advantage but now you come back look at it in retrospect and you you can
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only really see it in a negative light there's no positive to it um The only
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positive would be that you know this is this is something that the 500 Megs of
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you know super cach whatever you want to call it is actually only possible because of the way Maxwell was built if
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you look back at uh kind of that block diagram that I think you guys showed
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last week as well that that the white diagram that that shows the different
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blocks um had they wanted to do that before they would have had to disable
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the entire block you would have had 192bit memory bus and you would have 3
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gigs of Graphics memory but because of
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the way uh Maxwell was architected to be more modular they were able to disable
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just that portion of L2 and Rob to kind of help their yields and increase their
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their profitability on the production side and thus you were able to get 500
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Megs more uh of your primary frame
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buffer than you would have been able to get to before and you kind of have this
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500 Megs that you can access as this
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secondary portion I guess but that being
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said it is painfully obvious after
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everything has gone on over the last 10 days that this was this was not the
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right way to do it um yeah and they are
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like somebody sent me a link last week to some uh uh Law Firm that is
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investigating the the plans of a class action and they of course just to make
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feel benefit law firms anyways yeah as far as I can tell I mean they men me as
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in their descrip destion they kind of mention as quoted by PC perspective blah
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blah blah like I don't want to be involved in this I don't need I don't
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need any more depositions in my life I'm good yeah the funny thing about class
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actions is there was what that Intel Benchmark one that got resolved a little
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while ago where everyone got like $17 or
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something like that so the only the only and it was and you have to go through a
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filing thing for it and all this kind of stuff like so the only one who benefited
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lawyers yeah because most people aren't going to claim it they're just going to
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grab the cash anyways $17 is actually a lot for one of those if you're like a a
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secondary uh uh plaintiff and that I I've had ones from like back in the DDR
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memory days that are like $3 and $6 nice
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it's like I I can't imagine the amount of processing and and kind of Records
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keeping you have to have for that many people to be sent $3 checks that I then
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have to go through the process of cashing or depositing and it's you know
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yes the the lawyers end up on on the high side of that the intent obviously
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to the lawyer side is to kind of uh inhibit other companies or this company
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from doing that same thing again right it's more of a punitive it hurt side
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yeah it just doesn't really benefit consum it doesn't end up B benefiting
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the consumers other than unless unless that injury placed on the company
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benefits them in the future but they're not getting benefited for purchasing
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that item yeah yeah I don't think you're going to have a lawsuit that credits
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everybody that buys a 970 with 1/8 of
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the price of the card or you know or upgrade everybody to a 980 or whatever
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how do you calate how do you calculate worth uh worth as well because memory
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isn't 100% of the card so 18 isn't actually a prop yep yeah yeah okay so
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then the other thing that I wanted to bring you on oh for those of you who don't know this is Ryan Trout from PC
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perspective I realized I never really introduced him we just kind of brought him on and started talking about the 970
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vram gate issue um so welcome to the
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show Ryan thanks it's glad to finally be
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on here you know thanks we were recording all that previous stuff right
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because it was pretty good so uh jumping jumping forward to the other thing I've
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got my NVIDIA sweater on by the way I don't know if you noticed I did I did
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yeah I'm I'm I'm just I'm messing with everybody because I'm G to go and play
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Devil's Advocate against NVIDIA okay while wearing my NVIDIA sweater that's
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like my objective on the stream today I'm just kind of having fun with it I
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got a really fun email from someone about um how I'm an NVIDIA apologist and
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there was some terrible punctu in the email it was it was pretty funny
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apologist and Unapologetic are so
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overused now oh my God I'm
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unapologetically in behind this bu shut up I got a we got we got more than my
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fair share of those comments as well if you look through uh those couple of
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stories from last week but I did do that so let's move on to the g-sync one
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g-sync without a gsync module do you realistically think now that uh okay
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here's here's the million-dollar question are we heading towards a future
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where a monitor has the hardware in the same way that a motherboard has a PCI
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Express slot so where the monitor has the hardware to realistically operate
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perfectly with uh free sync or gsync and
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it's just going to come down to the monitor manufacturer to certify or not
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certify with a given maker is that where we're headed uh I think that's where
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we're headed yes I think the the qu the
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real issue here is when is that going to
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occur right so the the kind of controversy around the GYN g-sync thing
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was that well at first the guy claimed that he hacked a driver to make it work
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when that that wasn't really the case but the insinuation was that oh look
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g-sync modules are never really required you could always just do this and that's
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that's 100% not the case like if you look at desktop displays that existed to
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that exist today and that have existed for the past year that g-sync has been
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around you could not do that with currently shipping scalers and currently
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shipping you know display connection standards um but remember when AMD you
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know like I think it was October or November of 2013 when we were out in
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Montreal an NVIDIA demo ging for the first time that next January at CES AMD
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had a laptop and they said oh look we can do it too and they showed a demo of
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a variable refresh screen not to me because I'm not one of the cool kids but
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whatever I hey you know well that you take that up with them that's I I try
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not to take the blame for that one um but they did it on a mobile form form
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factor for a reason right it was in a mobile form factor you have uh EDP uh
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embedded DisplayPort you have complete control and knowledge over all of the
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timing controllers and the display controllers between your GPU and the
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panel you know everything in the pipeline which you do not know on a
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desktop configuration so right uh desktop monitors are getting there and
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that's why that's this is essentially what AMD's free sync is kind of has been
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waiting for right there's a reason why freesync is not out and it's not really
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because AMD is holding back on anything they need the technology to be out there
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and they need stuff to actually work and function and what the mobile g-sync kind
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of story showed us was that NVIDIA knows
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this and um they also know that in the mobile form factor the mobile displays
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you still you know all that information and they will go through a g-sync module
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less certification process for mobile
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variants of gsync at the very least but on the upside it's still up in year
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right right and I mean there's there's
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you got to assume NVIDIA is working on there like I I okay last question last
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question about this because I know your wife wants you home at some point so do
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you think what do you think NVIDIA's plan was were they looking to Kickstart
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an entry into the display scaler business with a killer app Feature like
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g-sync was that the objective like was the was the idea okay we've got this
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totally non-cost effective solution but we're going to ramp up the business
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volume we are going to rev two it rev three it rev four it we're going to get
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into the display scaler business and we're going to make that work seamlessly
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with our gpus or flip side was the
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objective to actually have an exclusive
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feature and they just didn't think that AMD and the scaler manufacturers would
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get their crap together so
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quickly um I don't think they necessarily wanted to enter into the
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scaler Market specifically I don't think that's that's like a super profitable
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business that they were trying to work their way in to um I what I what I
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really think occurred is if you and I have quite a bit of
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background on this is like if you they they knew panel self- refresh was a
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thing right on mobile and on cell phones on laptops and cell phones they knew
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what it was and they figured out that hey we could use that for the alternate
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purposes rather than saving power to improve a gaming experience and in order
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to do that they wanted to be first to the market with it they didn't want to
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have to you know to submit a standard to visa and wait for it to be approved and
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thus you know AMD and Intel and NVIDIA all be on the same um pathway right you
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know that nobody would have any particular Advantage so they went through with developing the logic for it
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working with Partners to make the displays and kind of integrating it
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first because they wanted to be the uh the one kind of pushing the variable
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refresh technology forward which they clearly had done as much as AMD deserves
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credit with mantle for pushing the development of direct X12 NVIDIA
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deserves credit with g-sync for pushing ahead adaptive sync and DP 1.2a plus and
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all that right right and what I what I think will be the most interesting thing
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to see is uh as we move into later this
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year and freesync monitors are widely available and they are shown to work
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mostly reliably and and pretty closely match the experience that we have with
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uh gsync displays will NVIDIA continue to require a g-sync
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module in their desktop displays and I think they will but not for the same
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reasons that they have them in there today I think that NVIDIA has more plans
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for display technology changes than just
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variable refresh and in order to do that they want they need to have a piece of
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logic on the other side it doesn't mean gsync monitor shipping today will have
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those features but that you know gsync
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2.0 whatever that happens to be maybe they introduce some more interesting
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things other than just a variable refresh or maybe they just straight up
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segment the desktop and the mobile gpus
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that way they just say well look uh 980 supports whatever this new feature is
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with a g-sync display and 980m doesn't
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have it I mean they do that kind of thing all the time even stuff like um
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Shadow play it's like oh it's desktop first or whatever else the case may be
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and they might just not roll it out I mean even even in its current form the
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for what we saw in this kind of alpha leak of mobile gsync it's it is not at
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feature parody with gsync on the desktop right once you dip below that 25 or so
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frames per second Mark there you know on the desktop g-sync there's an algorithm
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in that in that chip that does work in terms of figuring out has it been too
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long do I need to refresh and it doubles up frame rates at certain points and it
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and it keeps the experience better when you go under that with the mobile
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version it won't have that capability because the tcons don't have that kind
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of logic they don't have the same size buffer um and so it's doubtful that they
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will ever have feature parody between the two I don't know if they'll brand it
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differently like gsync mobile as we kind of have branded it for them or gsync
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light or whatever it is uh but they're usually better at it than uh SLI light
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or gsync light but if you do lit te then
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it's fine right dynamic dynamic super gsync maybe they'll do Li to TI yeah
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yeah they they have they have a tremendous marketing department I'm sure
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they're better than us at coming up with this crap so all right well I think that was that
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was pretty much it I can take off my NVIDIA hoodie now thankfully because I'm
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so was the razor armband supposed to look like an NVIDIA thing no no I'm just
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wearing that because I I have an armband and my I've been this weird thing with
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my wrist lately it's been really cold when I sit and use the mouse so I've
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been wearing the thing just for warmth seems to make it a little more com if
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that's happening you are on the edge of carpal
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tunnel yeah well I've been on the edge a long time then well welcome to the fold
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it Happ it goes away it's fine it's only it's only a a a lifelong issue that
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you'll have for the remainder of your Living Years so yeah it was really bad a
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couple years ago actually about three years ago I was having a lot of trouble
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with uh with cold and and pain in my wrist and uh old people problems wow
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guess we can continue that does hurt
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I'm I think I'm older than both of you right line probably combined I think
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yeah oh ouch that hurts
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ouch yeah you're I think you're a little older than me I'm 28 yeah I'm 33 okay
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yeah damn it little all right well I
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think uh yeah I'll I'll let you get to your thing I think I had said we we'd
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kick it kick kick you off at five we're also dropping frames on the stream that
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I think are due to the uh to the video call right now so we got to let you go
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but are you hitting up with your are you hitting that 3.5 gab frame buffer limit
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and you're going into the secondary pool of memory maybe is that much slower it's
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much slower I think I what do I deserve
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in exchange for this no see this is the this is the like backup memory area
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right so that's why it's still working at all we should be thankful that the stream is still on and then it's not
26:50
just dropping some frames this is this is the wait no I don't have my shill
26:55
sweater on there that's much better memory boost .0 now it's like a shill
26:59
Shaw right yeah like shill scarf nice as
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long as it doesn't turn into like a shill noose then we're good all right
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all right so before before before I go
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plug uh before you end your show go ahead and plug our YouTube channels and
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websites and everything so we can uh get do that now do that now want me do all
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right so pcp.com that's uh where you
27:20
want to see all the stories on the 970 issue or the mobile gsync we've got that
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there and then uh we compete directly with lonus and Luke on YouTube right and
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nobody has enough time to watch any videos but if you go to youtube.com/
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pcper you can see some of our crap there and try to figure out what all this L
27:36
red light is behind me as well the red light
27:39
district we can change it we can make it a green light district but I see unlike
27:43
you I decided I don't want the background to be green if I'm G to sit here and talk about NVIDIA stuff and so
27:48
you but then I come on and you're wearing the the NVIDIA hoodie that we
27:51
got at the gsync editor day which is it's a it's a nice shirt it really is a
27:55
nice isn't it I wanted one to be honest
27:58
I I feel like I feel like such a corporate [ __ ] wearing it like I I put
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the thing on and then so it just adds the word corporate and then thank you
28:07
and then that um and that uh that super nice one we got at the Maxwell event too
28:12
at the 970 event that jacket the Jack W Breer yeah that is actually really nice
28:17
I had I have worn that I when I went to Montreal a couple weeks ago I took that
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it was very nice um but I I don't let any I don't let myself wear it when I go
28:24
out to other events I don't let myself wear it when we're on video like uh if
28:28
Allan's here doing like a a storage video with me and he's got like an Intel
28:33
skull logo t-shirt I'm like sorry you got to go change shirts we're not do on
28:36
that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bring those comments upon us so but hey I mean
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thanks for having me on guys and good luck the rest of your show all right
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take care man good to talk to you as always see
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you oh hold on hold on let me there we go you're
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good no thanks Ryan okay byebye by right
28:58
all right so guys uh welcome back to our regularly scheduled content where we
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talk about things that happened this week yeah so the LG G4 is rumored to
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feature a 3K display let's go ahead and
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uh oh hold on a second here let me just
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make sure that I've while you're setting that up I'm going to do call outs for
29:18
the U Starcraft League winners of January Kane won the official League
29:23
which is like the not the tech Syndicate Kane no oh okay different no um k a y n
29:31
won the official League which is like the UL members league and Commander Fett
29:35
won the public league which is the best score against the
29:39
public okay that is what is going on
29:43
here I don't really oh I know what the issue is the issue is that my um my
29:50
screen sharing is no longer working is
29:53
is the is the a media plugged in yeah uh
29:58
um did it fall out okay so
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Source uh try a different plug we can
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try again could it be a USB compatibility thing that's not it uh I I
30:12
straight up don't understand uh what's
30:15
going on here so we can remove that and
30:19
then we can add camera and it will be correct wow I love
30:25
this show okay so let's go ahead and the
30:30
W show where we talk about things that happened last week carpel tunnel being
30:33
old and we don't prep things yeah uh so the LG G4 to feature a 3K display this
30:39
is rumored it showed up in some of the specs uh it's Al the rumors also point
30:42
to a slightly smaller 5.3 in display
30:46
it'll be 1620 by 2880 pixels which would be a pixel
30:51
density of around 626 pixels per inch which is very
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impressive and completely necessary um the G3 had a 5.5 in display
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and a 2560 x440 uh p screen which
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resulted in 538 PPI and that was already
31:08
kind of ridiculous so from 538 to 626 I
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already straight up couldn't tell um I don't have terrible eyes I'm wearing
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glasses this week but my close-up vision is just fine um and it doesn't make a
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difference past about 1080P and now
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going past 1440p it definitely doesn't make a difference what I would like to
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see instead is higher density displays
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in other form factors um most notably on
31:36
the desktop because the issue actually this is something I talk about in our
31:39
XPS 13 review um so that display is also
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a 3K display and the notebook is also available in a 1080p version Dell quotes
31:50
the 1080ps battery life as
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25% higher again you can force a Mobile
31:58
screen to be smaller smaller well you're
32:01
talking about laptops on phones you can force different resolutions oh yeah no
32:06
that's fine I just mean the additional power required to drive all these pixels
32:11
is something that I don't know if I necessarily agree on with a mobile
32:16
device because and it should be noted that on the XPS 13 2015 found that's a
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lot of numbers um the 1080p models also
32:26
tend to have lower spec CPUs so there's going to be some savings there as well
32:29
and Dell is obviously just approximating you know these higher power models get
32:33
about this much less so it's 12 hours on the high-end one and 15 hours on the
32:39
low-end one in of rated battery it's a very significant difference yeah
32:43
actually and I got to look at it and go well hold on a second like if we just if
32:47
we just didn't worry so much about all these pixels that especially especially
32:52
on a laptop where you're running Windows 8 and scaling is a complete disaster
32:58
just doesn't make a ton of sense to meh all right Microsoft now pays ad block
33:03
plus are you posting this one thing sure one thing we really need to remember
33:06
with this article is that ad block plus is not the same as all the different
33:10
versions there's block ad block plus other things that block ads um so this
33:16
is specifically ad block plus who we've who we've given a hard time to on this
33:21
show in the past about the whole Mafia style yeah um yeah you get paid for
33:28
security or what protection protection money yeah yeah yeah um but it looks
33:33
like Microsoft Google Amazon and tabula
33:36
are all paying to have advertisements go unblocked on their websites for users
33:41
that are running ad block plus so I
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don't know I don't know who they're trying to make happy here um obviously
33:50
their users are not going to be super thrilled unless unless their users are
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those users who are only trying to block malicious ads for example yeah yeah and
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if if the idea was okay you know a site like
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microsoft.com is probably vetting the uh
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you know the ads making sure that there's no malicious code in them um if
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the idea is they're kind of going okay yeah you're paying us for the service of
34:19
validating that your ads are not
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malicious okay I've had enough Devil's Advocate this is such nonsense yeah it's
34:27
it's kind of ridiculous but I kind of think they're all ridiculous so I don't
34:31
know um I'm kind of surprised like I don't know how much exactly they're
34:35
paying but I'm kind of surprised these big companies are actually paying for
34:39
that well the way that okay the way that the whole program works is much smaller
34:44
websites like very small websites don't have to pay I think they just submit uh
34:48
they they just submit an application to be whitelisted whereas much larger
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businesses are are intended to pay and
34:56
guess Microsoft is prob doing it for MSN msn.com or whatever their like kind
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of homepage thingy where I think there is actually a bunch of ad I would imagine it's kind of across the board
35:06
yeah but that's probably the one they're actually worried about MSN video would be another big one man the ads are
35:11
obnoxious on MSN video every once in a while I kind of fall down the rabbit
35:16
hole on on MSN video because they tend to have a lot of really short like 105
35:20
second you know stupid Clips clickable things yeah like and I'll just kind of
35:24
and then I'll watch like another 30 second ad to see a 10-second video I'll
35:29
be like yeah I've had enough and then that that that saves the rest of my
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evening um Time Warner
35:37
Cable this is actually a great article this is posted by oh we should go back
35:41
and uh Warrior surprising sorry oh oh keep Cy Warrior posted the 3K display
35:47
one uh Good Bites posted about Adblock Plus and this one is from Victoria
35:52
Secret do you want to go ahead and post this in the chat sure uh Time Warner
35:57
Cables 97% profit margin on high-speed internet
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service exposed um actually the uh the digging
36:07
that was done by the author of this article is not particularly deep I mean
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all he really had to do was look at some of the numbers that they are providing
36:16
us on the the telephone and uh on The
36:19
Voice side of things and and some other stuff and then kind of reverse engineer
36:24
the numbers for high-speed internet and it raised is some really interesting
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questions if they're making 97% margin so he worked it out and he
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figures H where is it their average
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subscription is 40 something $
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43.92 per month and their average cost
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is a132 per month for the service that
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they're providing to that customer and he he raises some really interesting
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questions how did regulatory body ever
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look at this yeah who makes 97% margin
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on anything especially where it's been
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proven that there's essentially no competition in terms of isps in the
37:10
states yeah it's esentially it's essentially localized monopolies yeah
37:15
which is ridiculous so you're basically
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forcing Because the Internet is basically required at this point you're
37:22
basically forcing people to buy something that you are serving them at a
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97% profit margin which is
37:29
insanity that's absolutely Insanity oh
37:33
man it's also interesting that the uh
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reported uh it's it's reported that fees have increased by about 100% in a matter
37:41
of two years for some customers yeah this was this seems like this is an
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article that uh the the author kind of
37:50
had close to his heart because uh he was actually talking about how his personal
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Time Warner Cable basic triple play bill went up 112% in just 2 years from the
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advertised price of $89.99 to
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$19.77 that's insane it includes all
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kinds of fees and SAR charges and Rental
38:11
this and uh one of them is a is a is a
38:14
defunct social contract charge which is an extra $5 a month that hasn't actually
38:20
been required apparently since 2001 um oh my God
38:27
you should be able to get your money back for that yeah CU isn't that it
38:30
shouldn't okay social cont what is that okay I think the fee was implemented and
38:35
then taken off the bill but then the money is still being charged or
38:39
something like that okay so time water is not necessarily taking that five no they're just jacking up the price yeah
38:44
they're taking a $5 yeah
38:48
no not necessarily that $5 is it a form
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of tax though like is this a government regulated thing uh I don't know too much
38:56
about the social contract thing yeah cuz social contract sounds like some sort of
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oh yeah it was supposed to be to fund the upgrade to the network yeah yeah
39:05
yeah like it that's what it was supposed to be for okay uh but oh so for it to
39:10
funds I guess it could just go directly to them yeah oh that's if the Network's
39:15
good enough then uh hey hey and it's not
39:19
so hey so hey yeah how how about them social
39:23
contract service charges you want to upgrade some things please I'm going to
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enter into my own social contract well some cities are they're installing their
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own networks and it's actually baller so
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um yeah so one of the ones I didn't bring up was franchise fees um yeah what
39:42
does that even mean super gross so this is all based on 2013 records but I I
39:47
mean I knew that they were doing just fine all we have to do is look at the
39:53
you know all the commercial space they buy on TV and all the stadiums that
39:57
these companies name and all this stuff we could look at it and go okay they're
40:01
spending all that money and they're still doing fine um but I I had no idea
40:07
it was 3% of the actual of it was the ACT about
40:12
what like closed perfume and makeup are some of the most cuz printer ink yes
40:17
printer ink like all those things that are just ridiculous where like the the
40:21
nicest bottle of wine like ever is still very comparable to printer Inc in terms
40:26
of prices uh I I don't remember that was an article a long time ago I had to I
40:30
probably quoted it slightly wrong but it was ridiculous um yeah the bit about
40:35
drinking the printer ink instead of the wine I think that was the part you
40:38
screwed up that wasn't in there I didn't say that no you didn't anyways uh but it
40:43
was funnier yes uh like that's nuts
40:47
though that's absolutely ridiculous I wish our margin was 97% I guess what I
40:52
could do is just slash all of your salaries I think that's illegal
40:57
well this isn't this no that that isn't
41:02
legal I said I think that is il legal
41:05
isn't would mean that it's legal right I don't know if what they're doing is like
41:09
actually documented as legal because there's there's questions to be brought
41:12
up I this is a very old conversation so I won't delve into it for very long but
41:16
where the government's like here's money to build this stuff then you just don't
41:19
do it that should be under contract that should be illegal I don't think there's
41:23
any punishment for that yeah there should be something there should be
41:26
anyway we should carry on because that's a very old
41:30
very goes out of business in Canada and says they're going to have amazing deals
41:34
and my wife goes there on Thursday there should be amazing deals was there
41:38
nothing apparently the stores were just the store was just like packed and
41:42
people were buying things but she ended up leaving and going to Superstore to
41:46
buy some garbage cans for the new office because she knew they were actually on
41:50
sale um she the electronics department apparently was so full of people that
41:55
there was a lineup to get in so she didn't didn't actually go to the electronics but apparently just cuz I I
42:01
sent her there cuz we're going to need some Sundries for the new office and
42:04
things like toilet paper you know cleaning supplies um stuff like that and
42:08
I was like yeah just pick up some of that stuff I mean it should be like uber liquidation sale and apparently it's as
42:14
simple as just saying you're having a liquidation sale and people come and
42:17
they buy things they should just they should do that thing okay I don't know
42:21
about you viewers but this is a total thing here grand opening and and like
42:26
final closing sales thing furniture stores I swear every single furniture
42:31
store on like um Bridgeport Road and uh
42:35
and King George Boulevard and Richmond and sui like like you you drive through
42:39
furniture storeand and especially the smaller ones not the Big Chain ones like
42:44
half of them are having their moving sale or or liquidation sale or closing
42:50
down final inventory close out s grand
42:53
opening for like six years yeah there's actually a documented thing where one of
42:57
the stores in BC had a grand opening sale for years and I mean like the the
43:03
sign is faded you know yeah yeah yeah like it's old and faded and ripping what
43:07
did you buy someone else's used Grand Opening sale sign and put it on or if
43:12
you just ridiculous um all right so
43:16
there's ah yes a new Intel consumer SSD
43:21
750 series uh pops up on a compatibility
43:25
list so this is cool the code name is August Ridge it's the month I'm born in
43:29
so it's probably like Illuminati confirmed anyway um it was on the road
43:35
map for releasing Q4 2014 but that time has passed we're
43:39
still hoping we can see it soon and if we do then that'll make Intel the first
43:44
one to deliver an NVMe compliant SSD so that would be an
43:49
SSD that doesn't rely on the oldfashioned
43:53
ahci uh software layer to interface with
43:56
the controller so it would actually it's optimized for lower latency uh most
44:00
mostly lower latency it's optimized for the lower latency PCI Express
44:04
connections that new ssds are going to be connecting to whether it's over m.2
44:08
or over a standard PCI Express slot um capacities will be 180 240 360 480 and
44:14
600 gigs and
44:17
um yeah that's honestly there isn't a ton
44:22
to say I'm excited to see them in person fast rests are good yes for lots of
44:26
things I me here's something you might not even consider you know if your SSD in your
44:32
laptop or your phone is much higher performance okay ph's a bad example
44:35
because we're not getting this in phones but on your laptop uh is is using uh PCI
44:41
Express Bus and is using NVMe the faster
44:44
it can complete any transactions that it has to the more it's sitting there idle
44:48
instead of working so as long as we get nice power efficient super high-speed
44:52
ssds it's kind of like um it's kind of like how faster Wi-Fi
44:57
actually benefits more than just you
45:01
know oh okay there's less stuff sitting in the air essentially that's right
45:04
that's right it makes everything else that's on that Network faster because
45:08
you're not using up as much air time it's good yeah Sony has sold Sony Online
45:14
Entertainment I that's I'm actually kind of surprised they sold it especially
45:17
with the timing because H1 Z1 despite the highly controversial launch actually
45:22
seemed to be doing pretty well well okay launch into early activ Early Access
45:28
sorry I keep not posting links I keep forgetting to say who I've done I've
45:31
posted all the other ones it's me and King cry for the last two posting on the
45:35
Forum thanks guys this one is King cry um yeah like I is that even proper
45:40
terminology now because that wasn't even a real launch was it I'm I'm pretty sure
45:43
H1 Z1 is still in Early Access I think so yeah but then people were like oh my
45:47
God the servers aren't good enough because Early Access literally doesn't
45:50
mean Early Access anymore um you just
45:53
buy the game you just bought the game you're playing the game anyways dumb but
45:58
yeah apparently the company that bought it which has a terrible name of Daybreak
46:02
game company well no that they renamed
46:05
it to Daybreak game company yeah which is bought by was bought by like a
46:10
holding company columus Nova yeah New York's B firm investment management firm
46:14
but Daybreak game company
46:18
really um they make games until they they work
46:25
until so late at night the comes up that
46:28
might actually be true if you're a programmer yeah so maybe not that far
46:32
from the TR actually maybe it's the best name for a game company
46:37
ever I just didn't like that they're called game company I don't know why I'm
46:42
sure there's other ones out there called aren't we called I so I shouldn't have
46:46
called us lonus Media company I have never said that that was a good name
46:50
right I have forever said that that was a terrible name right moving on um what
46:55
did you want like dish water R anything other than lus Media Group
47:02
anyways um they're they're looking into they they said that they want to fully
47:05
embrace the multiplatform world in which we all live so that's bringing up
47:10
theories that they're going to bring H1 Z1 to consoles which is probably not too
47:13
surprising and mobile you just said H1N1 to consoles did I yeah hopefully we're
47:18
bringing viruses to
47:21
consoles H1 Z1 is what I meant to say uh
47:26
and apparently interested in possible mobile crap in the future so nothing was
47:31
interesting for us not all mobile stuff is crap um Square Enix keeps remaking
47:36
Final Fantasy ver mobile those are good
47:40
games oh Pokemon Pokemon Blue is a
47:43
mobile game bam
47:47
no technically yes not the mobile I'm currently talking
47:52
about you just you just got trashed son but technically yes
47:57
that is not wrong okay uh oh this is a
48:01
shame this was posted by Good Bites brutal this is like like I I'll post it
48:06
in the chat this is like a supreme ouch moment um do you know how oh you're
48:11
posting the broken ones let me let me do the posting
48:15
fine um this is great so oh it broke
48:21
again all right please stop breaking
48:31
andity boity no okay I don't
48:38
know oh can they hear us yeah that's not
48:42
what I meant to do now we're really big hi everyone yeah this is a fairly large
48:46
area that I'm in I've always been really big larger larger than the area that we
48:50
normally are when we're showing the now we're gone
48:53
oh you know what's kind of fun know what's kind of fun just start talking go
48:58
just go I I think this is a terrible idea okay I got Apple will spend two
49:03
billion to turn its failed Sapphire plant into a global Command Center so
49:09
you know how the rumor was that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would feature
49:14
sapphire glass screens and there was that viral video that Marcus brownley
49:19
made where he tried to scratch it and he bent it and was like w sapphire glass is
49:24
kind of amazing okay you can put us in the corner now um sapphire glass is
49:30
amazing well the company that Apple was actually
49:35
had actually thrown a lot of money at and who had committed to deliver the
49:39
volume of sapphire glass that Apple required in order to integrate this
49:44
product onto not just the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus but lots of their lots of
49:49
their products including the Apple watch well they GT Advanced Technologies like
49:54
straight up realized that they couldn't it and for bankruptcy so the uh 1.3
50:01
millionare foot building that Apple built to manufacture sapphire glass will
50:07
be um not for that they're going to make it a data center yeah which makes sense
50:12
repurpose the building if you can't do it but it's pretty brutal for a few
50:16
reasons they could fil it with trampolines that would be awesome
50:19
trampolines would do and uh the the ball
50:23
pits not my company would fill it with trampolines not air conditioning
50:26
trampolines mind you but definitely try uh I have bad news by the way the HVAC
50:31
is definitely on hold for the new office we are putting in the hold on just just
50:35
calm down we are and and and okay funny story funny story you might laugh um we
50:40
are not only not going to have air conditioning we're not going to have eat
50:44
I didn't yeah because it's going to be a combo unit I thought it would be when we
50:47
put it in um so the good news is we're putting in the
50:51
ducting so we can install hbac later but
50:55
we cannot afford it right now this the sound the sound dampening that we need
50:59
to do in the warehouse is have you figured more about that I I have figured
51:03
out more about that more research is being done it's going to be very
51:07
expensive is it looking positive into the buy some pizza and do it ourselves
51:12
um I'm not sure okay yeah not sure okay
51:16
so sorry what were we talking about right trampolines right they're repurposing it for data center you know
51:20
cloud storage and all that kind of stuff is all is all yes un the the part that I
51:24
was getting to sorry I was trying to remember what I was trying talk about um
51:27
the the really sucky part in my opinion is that it will now create 150 full-time
51:33
jobs and 300 to 500 construction jobs temporarily that sounds pretty cool
51:38
except that it was supposed to create 2,000 jobs permanently bummer now it's
51:44
150 that's a nasty drop it's one of the largest Investments Apple has ever made
51:50
and although of those 150 it's probably like data center people so people in the
51:54
audience might be more able to be hired
51:58
than the sapphire plant so that might be
52:02
good for like our group of people but it's not good for the overall Employment
52:05
Number all right so this is actually
52:09
look at this good news from
52:12
Ubisoft I think this is good yeah but
52:15
it's like good because they're reeling back from terrible oh it wasn't okay
52:20
it's like they shot someone and then they're like hold on let me let me fix
52:23
that they patch the hole stood by while
52:28
someone else got shot little bit of disinfectant they stood by how did they
52:31
stand by they shot this gun no they didn't yes they did well they didn't
52:36
they didn't okay let's hold on let's try's someone punched them in the face
52:39
they shot some other dude and they're like crap okay that's actually the bad
52:42
guy let me patch this someone else robbed their Bank okay okay so they so
52:48
someone else no no someone else robbed their bank so they went and stole stuff
52:52
from everyone that's ever used their Bank no someone okay Robin Hood
52:57
let's say let's say Robin Hood okay like dirty Robin Hood who's in it for the
53:01
profit to himself so definitely not Robin Hood not Robin Hood so a thief yes
53:07
okay so we're gonna call him dirty Robin
53:10
okay so dirty Robin busts into the bank
53:14
takes um money okay but but not like uh
53:18
not just like us cash let's say this happens in America okay but they don't
53:22
take us cash they take all the foreign currency okay that for some reason
53:27
people want no let's say it happens in Canada okay just
53:31
just you just no I'm going let's go okay
53:34
okay so they break into a Canadian Bank no one wants Canadian currency because
53:39
it's plummeting right now so they take all the US currency okay and then
53:45
instead of Distributing it to the poor they sell it to the poor for Canadian
53:51
currency that they then convert to something useful like Bitcoin and then
53:56
they have money I'm I'm well relatively useful it got a little weird at the end
54:01
okay okay okay so so that's what happened followed you yeah the Ubisoft
54:06
the the bank the bank thank you the Ubisoft Bank basically
54:12
invalidated the foreign currency serial
54:16
numbers that were stolen because it was stolen goods so they stole a stolen
54:20
property it is illegal to buy stolen goods but they bought it from a
54:25
legitimate store so we missed we screwed up part of that story okay so but will
54:29
they stool the money from a legitimate
54:34
bank doesn't I wasn't commenting on that
54:38
at all I was to saying we missed the part where like they they sold it to a
54:42
store that you would normally buy legitimate things from so the people
54:46
that bought it no no no uh the people
54:50
that stole from the bank a bank with a store in it oh I see what you're saying
54:54
cuz they're not buying the money yeah no you said they sold the money yeah they
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sold well they exchanged the exchanged the money so they were a bank so a bank
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stole money from a bank and then sold it to other Banks and then people bought it
55:06
from the yeah and then they cancelled the bank
55:10
money okay you know what why don't I just so basically Ubisoft is
55:14
reactivating Far Cry 4 keys that were invalidated due to
55:20
um okay you know what why don't you just do this because apparently I can't
55:24
handle it okay so I'm so lost now I
55:27
actually had like the I had everything for the story ready and now I'm just
55:31
screwed um essentially there's a whole bunch of keys uh stolen through
55:36
apparently G2 a whole bunch of keys were sold through g2a which were stolen or
55:40
something from other online retailers or whatever so Ubisoft just went and like
55:45
canceled everyone who had bought it from other retailers um although I don't
55:49
think that's actually a proper general statement it's said in the article that
55:52
way but I'm pretty sure steam ones weren't cancelled and that's technically
55:57
not you play right okay so I don't
56:01
really can you even buy far I remember didn't we buy Far Cry 4 through
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Steam we did yeah we did but then I don't even remember there's something weird going on with you play in Far Cry
56:10
4 I don't remember how all that stuff went down but anyways a lot of keys got
56:14
invalidated because uh they were stolen or they assumed to be stolen or whatever
56:19
even if they were purchased from sites that would traditionally have been seen as the legitimate way to buy things um
56:24
and g2a has I think some form of
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protection or something so people that got that are no matter what being taken
56:31
care of people that didn't are like probably being taken care of and right I
56:36
don't know their angle is super weird but yeah then Ubisoft went like okay I
56:41
think we need to like invalidate the ones that we think are currently stolen
56:45
but not necessarily activated and let people play that actually paid for it at
56:49
some point okay yeah okay so they're
56:53
like kind of trying to they're kind of trying to fix it here so Ubisoft got
56:56
screwed over actually yeah pretty hard and then they retaliated heavier than
57:00
they probably should have in terms of Saving Face right so dirty Robin took
57:05
their stuff and then they basically strung up everyone he sold it to from a
57:10
they did like the superhero recovery mode which where like they destroy half
57:13
the city while trying to get the villain right yes okay speaking of which we had
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this conversation the other night I am like so excited for Incredibles 2 I know
57:23
it's like not even close and there aren't even like teaser trailers yet but
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any there's nothing we can show you this is not an article yeah this is not this
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no where is it might be in my other email account uh shoot I feel terrible
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cuz I got like the best user testimonial for Squarespace ever and they were like
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oh my gosh I use Squarespace and it's like super awesome but they were a lot
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more eloquent than that uh make beautiful website it's
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have a variety of different things from Master up um that we can show you guys
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today we've had a lot of people drooling
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over this keycap set when uh what video
61:51
did I show it in I don't know I think it was in the iMac gaming video
61:56
iMac gaming no one's looking at the iMac no one's impressed by running Crisis 3
62:01
on it everyone's looking at this keycap set that's what I was looking at so this
62:05
was like a crazy I think this drop is actually over so I'm sorry guys I'm just
62:10
like showing you cool stuff Mass drop has that you can't buy but it's a full
62:14
PBT key cap set with like custom Star Trek themed Spacey lettering like
62:19
airlock key and like phase key resan for
62:25
clan key oh so it's mostly designed for people who already know what the keys
62:30
are supposed to be we should we should get super affordable though we should
62:33
get Nick Van Burl a keyboard that has a phas clan key on it then every single
62:38
time that he presses it it just plays the audio clip we should probably do
62:42
that actually that would be a good super fun just like how to do it how to yeah
62:46
like if we just make like a Phase Clan button yep that's actually toally
62:51
doe we should totally make that that drop is on until tomorrow oh that's what
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our link goes to is the keycap set all right thank you
62:59
nips once again I have no idea what's going on I do have two he might as well
63:04
stay he does have notes on I just want to make it clear he does have notes on
63:07
his screen he just doesn't look at they're actually not technically on his screen right now he's like he he he not
63:12
only moved the screen away but he put a different window in front of it there's
63:15
your issue so there's like two layers of Defense from the knowledge okay well
63:18
they have other cool things that are over but the point is they have lots of
63:23
stuff that isn't just keyboards so this is the uh graffiti graffiti
63:28
Lin something yeah anyway so it's a little tiny USB charging cable they've
63:33
got a lightning one they've got a micro USB one we've actually featured a very
63:37
similar product before on handy Tech under 100 um so they've got like cool
63:42
little stuff like that and this I wasn't really sure about even bringing up on
63:46
the show we don't generally talk about
63:49
weapons a weapon
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okay a gun is not a weapon you call it a
63:58
firearm okay I'm serious if you go get your gun Licensing in BC you call it a
64:04
firearm or they will not give you your license so the fact that I called this a
64:08
weapon means I should have as a Yes
64:12
mine you can use it technically as a
64:15
weapon but you don't describe it as a weapon and you don't use it as a weapon
64:20
it just can be you can use a kitchen pot as a weapon it is actually done in very
64:24
many times in movies you can use basic
64:27
you're you're I could use your BS logic is
64:32
going to be it happens in movies therefore you could hit you can't start
64:36
a sentence with that you could hit someone with a frying pan and that would hurt a lot I can't take you seriously do
64:40
you want to fight me with a frying pan No I don't want to fight you with a frying pan that is not the point that
64:45
we're talking about at all the point is draw. slw show for awesome drops like
64:52
this one bring it back around to the to
64:55
hand why do I even let you co-host this show
64:59
with me a a a frying pan could be very easily used as a weapon that would hurt
65:03
I didn't say it couldn't be used as a weapon I just said the fact that it
65:06
appears in movies is a complete I said it could be and then I
65:11
said in fact it is as an additional
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Point not as a main point that was a
65:18
supporting article supporting supports
65:22
nothing speaking of for my thesis on on
65:26
on weapon variability speaking of supporting nothing uh consoles may get
65:31
4k support uh sometime in Q4 this is
65:35
good this is actually really helpful and can you actually do your job and post
65:39
this the twitch chat the the reason why
65:43
this is really helpful is this might bring more uh 4K content like Netflix
65:48
and stuff might push for more 4K content because of compatibility on other things
65:52
so non console people might actually get more 4K content that they can watch um
65:58
through that thanks to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One um finally joining 4 years ago
66:05
well okay well okay you could play 4K
66:08
video easily for quite a while on a PC in terms of a hardware but then the PS4
66:12
and the Xbox one already have the horsepower to play back 4K video it's
66:16
not freaking complicated um the problem
66:19
is that they don't have a display interface that's capable of playing back
66:23
4K video and we haven't had that on the PC for that long it has been a couple
66:27
years a good point but DisplayPort 1.2 is when we got that on the PC like
66:31
affordably without you know multi multi- linking multiple interfaces right two
66:36
monitors and bizel chopping or whatever yeah so what it seems like they were
66:40
waiting for was HDMI 2.0 and I suspect
66:44
since it's already I mean it it
66:48
hopefully the article covers this um I
66:51
don't remember anymore but I I don't think we're going to be looking at 4K
66:56
gaming anytime soon because that would be a serious as I told Hardware revision
67:01
it could it it just have to do puzzle bble yeah the arcade games or whatever
67:06
like it would you're not going to do yeah you might do arcade gaming stuff
67:10
that's about it so like 4K Stickman
67:13
Adventures 201 Edition uh maybe Tetris
67:18
unless they put too many cool graphics in they've done that sometimes but then
67:23
now that I think about it no they already have HDMI1 .4 they could
67:26
technically do HDMI video playback
67:30
already at 30 FPS this actually got said
67:34
as to no longer be an official statement anyways so so moving on cuz Netflix is
67:39
the one that said it and then they're like oh wait we can't talk on behalf of
67:42
those guys so
67:46
yeah that's about it three months later
67:50
Android 5.0 Lollipop uh the last one was posted by crater and this one's posted
67:55
by good bites has only 1.6% market
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share wow we that is uh not a hell heck
68:04
of a lot um especially given that Android operating systems come in at the
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whopping price of absolutely nothing
68:13
yeah uh to run on anything so this means
68:16
this means a couple of things um it or it could mean a couple of things number
68:20
one it could mean that KitKat was just fine um and handset ERS Andor users
68:26
simply don't feel the need to update uh number two is it could mean that the
68:31
devices that come pre-loaded with lollipop like the Nexus 6 uh NVIDIA
68:35
Shield tablet Nexus 9 um just aren't
68:39
selling that well but I really don't think that's it because the Android
68:43
install base is so massive I mean to put
68:46
it in the appropriate context Jelly Bean is still in the lead yeah and there have
68:51
been some pretty successful Kit Kat based devices um so I don't think that's
68:55
it and then number three and this is the one that I personally think is most
68:59
likely the handset makers that are validating lollipop are finding it just
69:04
kind of a bear to deal with and roll out to their devices um droid turbo was sold
69:09
with the promise of quick update to lollipop I mean we're 3 months in that's
69:13
not exactly quick these days um so so
69:18
there you go I mean I personally wasn't that impressed with lollipop but Google
69:21
has acknowledged the memory leak issue
69:24
um that they're hopefully going to be fixing and I think it was going to be a
69:28
5.1 update of the people that I know that have uh volli poop it it I I
69:33
haven't actually heard usually when there's a new phone OS you're like oh
69:38
there's all these cool new things about it like look at this new thing I can do
69:41
blah blah blah blah blah no nothing really I hear some frustrations about
69:46
like how notifications work and how you have to scroll through them and stuff and that's about it just some
69:49
frustrations have some extra clicks um all for the sake of material design yeah
69:55
that's that's about all I've heard is I have to do more things to be able to get
69:58
stuff done the thing that really annoyed me most and maybe this is petty cuz
70:02
Brandon doesn't seem to care he's running a Nexus 5 with lollipop um is
70:06
removing the dividing lines between all the characters on the keyboard yeah why
70:10
do you need to do that yeah don't why
70:13
don't you have uh better things to do swift key um oh yeah yeah but whenever I
70:18
whenever I fire up a new phone fresh install I try to use it until it makes
70:23
me mad and then that's my benchmark for whether it was good enough so so if I
70:28
have if I end up switching to swift key it's like how long did it take me to
70:32
switch to swift key that's how good their stock keyboard is well their stock
70:36
keyboard is about a two and a half week yeah it's a two it's a two and a half
70:40
week until it frustrates you start start giving it like its own values Ivon uh
70:44
recently switched to the 1 M8 and it was a one day keyboard for her the uh the
70:49
the the sense sense keyboard wow she was like this is
70:53
terrible cuz she'd been using the phone before and uh I was like no no it's okay
70:58
I can change it she's like no it's okay I'm like no no I'll change it for you
71:01
and so I put in swift key I put in the number row I removed swipe and then I
71:05
changed the delay for um for special
71:09
characters I do every single one of those are my essential essential
71:12
settings for swift key and she was like oh this is great this is much better um
71:17
dual GPU cards and configurations this
71:20
is posted by assassin and we are of course going to use the WCC F Tech link
71:26
because we love trolling you guys um M
71:29
oh really
71:32
wrecked wrecked wreck wrecked this is annoying it's probably a loose
71:37
connection somewhere I blame you you set it up all right I'll try not to add the
71:40
wrong camera this time I blame your feet I blame your on table I blame your face
71:45
you're probably bumping things what is going on here well whatever um we should
71:50
just like glue in all the connections so new lowlevel apis like uh anle and
71:56
DirectX 12 may allow game developers to
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combine the video memory of multiple
72:03
graphics cards so the Autobon Hammer that 24 gig uh system that we built with
72:10
three 29x 8 gig cards could potentially have 24 gigs of video memory now to be
72:16
clear this is at least in the short term
72:20
completely purposeless because no game
72:23
developer is going to build a game that is going to take advantage of 24 games
72:28
not even just that I'm gonna quote a a little bit long quote here but still
72:33
quote just because they're running uh Windows 10 and dx12 and or mantle API
72:37
does not mean that your multi-GPU configuration is now stacking memory the
72:41
capability is present in these low-level overhead apis but they will not come
72:46
into effect until Dev specifically optimize the games as
72:50
such right so not only is there no games
72:54
that can really use that much VM right now but the devs are going to have to do
72:58
it themselves and looking at how long it takes them to even have multi-GPU
73:02
profiles at launch half the freaking time I don't see that many devs really
73:08
doing this at least not now so yeah so don't get your hopes up
73:14
there will probably be some sponsored titles I mean this is not just a PC
73:18
feature this is like a super esoteric PC
73:21
feature that a very small subset of that PC audience is going to be able to
73:26
leverage so uh so that's cool and that's
73:30
I'm very happy that it exists um one thing that's very cool about this is
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that uh well it's mantle so it'll probably come to like everything else as
73:38
well and if it starts being available in kind of everything and then hopefully
73:42
starts being available as just a plug-in that developers can do instead of uh
73:48
having to manually code things for that then that would be nice so not now but
73:53
future speaking of speaking of mantle and direct X12 this is actually an
73:57
article I was reading oh for crying out loud right I don't have screen share
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uh sorry is this a linkable thing uh can
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I link this just on an unch oh you're going to do it there okay
74:09
yeah I'll just do it here um I just want to share the article that's all yeah so
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I'll just add screen region bity Boop uh
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here's my browser enjoy
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okay there we go uh the direct X12 performance preview AMD NVIDIA and star
74:27
swarm so Ryan Smith over at Anon uh put
74:31
together some explanations of blippity bloop you can read all that if you want
74:35
here's the star swarm demo and the test
74:38
and here are the results so on cards that support direct deck 11 12 and
74:45
mantle we get to see all three results and for cards that don't support mantle
74:49
and video cards uh we get to see DirectX 11 and 12 so uh G GTX 9 980 gets more
74:55
than a doubling in performance moving from directex 11 to direct X2 and we've
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also got on the AMD cards direct x 12 and mantle performing within spitting
75:05
distance of each other pretty well across the board mantle winning in every
75:09
case but definitely within spitting distance yeah yes mantle does does Edge out
75:14
direct X12 in every case but I think that if people were hoping that mantle
75:19
was going to be the reason to own an AMD card um they're I think well basically
75:25
if they work at AMD um then I think they're going to be a little bit
75:29
disappointed because the thing is that star swarm is kind of a a worst case
75:34
scenario it is designed to Showcase
75:38
scenarios where there are far too many draw calls for directx11 to be able to
75:43
handle it efficiently and to create CPU
75:46
bottlenecks it's designed to do that whereas real games these differences
75:52
that you see between mantle and direct X1 we've already seen that in real games
75:57
you're not looking at a doubling of performance from from direct X1 to
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mantle you're looking at maybe a couple of percent a few percent um so that
76:04
difference between mant and directx12 will be a fraction of a
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fraction of that other bigger difference that ended up being much smaller yeah so
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and then if we do end up doing that which we probably will eventually end up
76:17
using all that performance um DirectX 12
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will have well we might not even be on DirectX 12 at that point we might be
76:24
further on but that Gap probably will have closed at least a little bit
76:28
anyways yes but yeah it's it's a little
76:31
bit disappointing that it has to be has to lean so much on developers we're
76:35
seeing so many things come out these days where uh to quote Balmer developers
76:40
developers developers ey tracking leans on developers VR leans on developers
76:44
this leans on developers so much stuff is doing that and it's uh yeah as a
76:49
developer right now I would be scared and excited at the same time all right
76:54
speaking of being scared and excited this was posted by Alex Goes High Razer
76:59
has upgraded the blade with Maxwell and
77:02
more importantly for me since I'm a bit of a tab fiend more RAM so the blade is
77:08
now available with a gtx970m instead of an 870m and 16 gigs
77:14
of RAM is now an option on the higher end skew you still have that same high
77:20
resolution exop panel display Luke is
77:23
I'm trying to fix it doing things here I got kind of a funny idea uh so which one
77:29
is this this is this one oh what the oh what are you doing I was going to I was
77:33
going to give them like a behind the scenes of what you were doing well I'm
77:37
trying to coniger the a med actually I'm just going to point it at your butt why
77:40
are you doing that why would I not do that I don't know this doesn't seem like
77:46
very high quality show content
77:49
hello look at my nose what you got going on down there well there's computer
77:53
cables and carpet and video cables and video cables oh look a wheel hey a foot
77:59
oh why don't you wear Footwear at work uh because I don't want to right okay
78:04
why don't you have air conditioning installed uh because it's expensive but
78:09
where's expensive that's true Footwear not the kind you would buy no nothing
78:13
you would buy is expensive no um okay they upgraded the CPU from an i7 4702 HQ
78:19
to an i747 20hq that movement of the two
78:22
is actually very important that signifies a TDP jump from 37 to 47 Watts
78:28
uh which the more efficient 970m allowed
78:31
although personally I probably would have opted for more battery and uh not
78:37
bother with that minuscule gain in CPU performance um there's also a new
78:41
lower-end version with a 1080p display and 256 gig SSD for 2 Grand still very
78:48
expensive commenting on the CRT um oh
78:52
the CRT yeah the CRT is for uh retro games
78:56
mhm next so I I guess here I'll post this one I'll let you uh I'll let you
79:01
handle this one or we I guess we could both handle this one so the FCC will
79:05
declare the internet title 2 and apply net neutrality rules to
79:10
mobile yeah that is awesome so great
79:13
news wheeler did a bit of a jump face and started actually supporting the
79:17
people that he's supposed to which is cool um and started backing up saying
79:22
like oh yeah well we we we've listened to uh the communities and the people and
79:27
all this kind of stuff for once apparently um and now yeah title 2 and
79:32
blah blah blah there's some kind of sketchy things in this I'm not going to
79:36
go over too much over title 2 as we've covered that in previous episodes but uh
79:40
they want to modernize title 2 we were talking about this before the show um I
79:45
actually just kind of skimmed over it initially thought that modernized title
79:48
2 just kind of meant that they're going to modernize the infrastructure behind
79:52
title 2 like the physical infrastructure behind title 2 apparently they might be
79:58
uh changing kind of how it works but a lot of it should be in terms of uh
80:03
where's his exact wording for it tailoring it for the 21st century in
80:07
order to provide returns necessary to construct competitive Network so so so
80:13
yeah we're talking about the physical
80:17
infrastructure changing and the rules of
80:20
of title 2 altering to enable that to
80:23
happen but if we if we were to take the
80:27
optimistic approach to that statement and go oh it's to it's to prevent the
80:33
kind of nonsense that's already been going on for the last decade with the
80:37
internet um then then that that's great
80:41
I mean some of the other points here no rate regulation no tariffs no Last Mile
80:47
unbundling um and this means the action we take will be strong enough and
80:51
flexible enough not only to deal with the realities of today but also to
80:54
establish ground rules for the as yet unimagined the internet must be fast far
80:59
and open this is the message I've heard if we're to sort of believe all this
81:03
then this is incredibly good news it seems like too much of an about face for
81:07
it all to be positive I feel like there has to be something and I'm worried
81:12
about that that could be my like pessimism coming out
81:16
but I mean the theory is that the FCC is
81:20
supposed to be on the side of the consumer but they like haven't really
81:23
shown that until now which is
81:27
sketchy yeah I uh I just I just I mean I
81:31
I got to wonder where they was he keeping quiet just because he didn't
81:35
want to shake the boat yet and this was the plan all along I mean uh he brings
81:40
up uh I don't think this is in our notes but it was in the article but he brings
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up a company that he used to work for that got uh contr F the nabo yeah I it's
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called Naboo it is in the notes is it tells the story of NAB the home computer
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network a competitor to AOL a startup that he was the president of that failed
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because networks acted as Gatekeepers so I mean you know was he
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was he on our side all this time I I I don't know don't really think so but
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maybe didn't look that way no um speaking of not being on our side this
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was posted by powder banks that last one was from Smitty shei and the previous
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one was from Alex Goes high and then the previous one was from assassin well we
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didn't do any for a bit um China will require real name registration for use
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of the internet and we're not talking real name registration like you have to
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pay for your internet service from your provider and you have to pay them with a
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credit card that has your name attached to it we're talking about the burden
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being put on isps and internet companies
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to enforce the new rules which are that the 650 million people who are online in
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China need to be personally identifiable online in their goings
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about super dumb I just now can I play Devil's
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Advocate or you just gonna get mad are you get all mad I know can you just stay
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calm for like two seconds thank you you know those are all things that just make
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people mad I know when you say okay um so okay so the The Devil's Advocate sort
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of um glass half full side of this is oh
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it will reduce you know uh inappropriate
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internet behaviors like swatting or trolling or or bullying or just just can
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you just I said two seconds two seconds
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I didn't get mad you I was watching you in the screen I saw what you did uh so
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let me take not being being identifiable
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online will lead to more personal accountability for one's actions when
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they go about their business online that is the that is the devil's advocate sort
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of version of that now what I actually
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personally think is that it's not going to help with that at all I mean there
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are sites and there are communities where they have tried to enforce uh
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people using their real names um didn't seem to help a whole lot with
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go+ um so so there's there's that but
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aside from aside from it not working the
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fact that there are communities that already have this that encourage the use
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of real names like Facebook means that if people wanted to engage in that way
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then they would go to those sites and they would do it this way we're not giving people a
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choice and it feels less like a benevolent sort of Nod to you know high
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school kids who are getting bullied and more of a way to keep tabs on what
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people are doing and what they're saying and in the context of of you know
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someone's being a dick to me on Twitter
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I guess yeah I would probably like to know who that person is so I can call
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their mom so that I can be like yo do you have any idea what your little crap
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turd of a son just said to me or daughter whatever you know gender
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equality um girls can be rude online too
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um so so that side of me is like yeah
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this is great but the flip side is you know what if someone lives in a country
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where they're oppressed for their religion or their or anything else about
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them and they can't they can't find other people they can't find support
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that's that's a huge problem where if they need to speak out against their
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government online or get access to news sources that are not censored by their
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local government I mean having anonymity as you browse the web is incredibly
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important can I talk now all right get all mad I'm not no I'm not getting mad
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you said uh because you you you Devil's Advocate and then you went back which is
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weird as a devil's advocate to well I didn't say I was a good Advocate you
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fought against yourself for way longer than you fought for Devil's advoc you
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were like here's some small points now I'm going to destroy
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myself like okay sure um you said less
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swatting and less trolling I think those are
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specifically totally wrong I think they'll be way more swatting cuz
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swatting is anonymous for the person that's doing it unless it's not and if
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every internet user was identifiable on every site that they're using right you
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could pick up a phone but if you pick up a phone then that's tied to your
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landline I'm assuming any any regime regime that's requiring you to register
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online proba knows there's always ways to file Anonymous yeah that's true
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information Anonymous information and that's how like basically okay squatting
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bad example online bullying though perhaps online bullying yes but this
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could pull more bullying and more trolling into the real world which is a
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lot worse than being bullied and trolled online not that we're saying online
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bullying isn't real and isn't a problem it's just no but saying I'm going to
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punch you in the face and actually punching someone in the face are very
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different things I would way rather someone goes I'm going to punch you in
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the face on on a keyboard and then
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finish the game we're playing in and go on to other matchmaking instead of
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having them go Kabam in real life right and now obviously not every time that
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happens is it going to happen but when people can't vent their frustration in
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that way uh it might happen more in the real world this is actually something
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that's been happening in terms of uh studies with violent video games a lot
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which is where a lot of people can use it as a venting mechanism instead of actually doing it it reduces violent
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crimes by a lot where you can play like GTA and just do stupid crap and then go
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play golf afterwards in GTA um is
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actually helping reduce a lot of the like violent crappy things you might do
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in real life because you can you can vent it's an interesting idea and if
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you're removing all of that that's actually not a good thing I'm not
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advocating for trolling on the internet I think trolling on the Internet is stupid the amount of crap that happened
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on The Forum over the 970 thing was ridiculous and like totally not okay and
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I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people on The Forum but I'm happy that
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wasn't a whole bunch of people standing in a building fighting each other cuz
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that would have been worse like I don't know this is fairly like
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straightforward stuff I don't know all right so let's move on to something
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that's also fairly straightforward uh this was posted by nine shadow on the
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Forum the Samsung Galaxy S6 chassis has
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been leaked allegedly uh it looks like it's going to have an all metal non
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removable back uh appears to look fairly
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similar to the iPhone Ione 6 I'd love to show it to you guys uh actually
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Galaxy S6 here we go blah blah blah blah
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blah chassis
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leak okay blue okay let's go come on Forbes
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hate that thing continue to site here we go so here's the article from Forbes
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where they're showing how very Apple like the alleged Galaxy S6 chassis is
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going to look that is very they're going to get the pants suit off of them yeah
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that seems very possible so let's go ahead and tuck tuck that away for now
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tuck tuck yep um I think there's a
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reference there that I missed a few people will get that so it's going to
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use glass material in the front and back some of them are apparently going to
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have like curved curved screens uh like curved Edge screens and some of them are
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not um Samsung pay is said to be embedded in the phone good luck with
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that Samsung um might be based on
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magnetic emitting that mimics your credit card so not NFC uh potentially
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accepted in 10 million points of sale without retooling existing machines I
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still wish them luck although Apple pay is apparently only available in 200
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100,000 spots for me it's more of a trust issue and less of a um like
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trusting the technology Apple does a good job know I hear you yeah um
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complely agree apparently the rear will be non- removable so as much as the S5
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was not a huge success for Samsung and I think that's kind of putting it lightly
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I think that taking away the things that
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made the Galaxy S the Galaxy S um things
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like removable battery is
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probably not like I I don't I don't see an iPhone 6 clone being a way to win new
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customers and I don't see taking away the things that sold your phone to
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someone else a generation or two ago being to retain your existing customers
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so I really have to wonder what exactly is the plan here right now or if it's
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real or if it's even real yeah could be totally fake so there's that I I really
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wonder sometimes these things are freakishly accurate so it it could be
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right but it's it's is really close yes more often than
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not Yep this is really really close I have to clarify something I think a few
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people in the chat thought I meant that people attacking NVIDIA on the Forum
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was super bad I wasn't talking about that I was talking about personal insults going to each other yeah we
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don't want members fighting we don't care if people are upset with that's
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like a rule on the Forum you're allowed to attack companies you're not all sh
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sweater bring back the shill sweater so you can attack lonus on the forum for
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wearing a shill sweater CU that's fine but you can't attack lonus for well
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actually you can attack lonus on fair game we that's what I'm saying we don't we don't count we are members but we
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don't count you can attack us and you can attack companies but don't attack
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other members of The Forum that's not a thing if you disagree with what they're saying use an intelligent argument to
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talk about how you disagree with what or better yet don't reply no because there
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could be intelligent argument yeah then don't reply yeah if they seem to be
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stuck in their way yeah yep recognize when people are trolling you like this
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right now yeah you did that at really good
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timing you owe me a coke I don't want a Coke I think you already owed me a coke
91:47
from our last text Jinks yeah we'll call it even we can just buy each other
91:52
nothing that works better for
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me all right so the Nintendo creators
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program which was already ridiculous so you guys I mean if you've been following
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this whole Fiasco Nintendo was claiming
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monetization against uh let's players and game streamers who were streaming
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their games um you know based on that they're using the in-game music and
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artwork without um having created it
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themselves when the content creators the guys who are playing the games are are
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arguing that it's actually their commentary that is the content and this
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is a fair use whatever anyway um so
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Nintendo sort of about faced on that and
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created the Nintendo creators program that would allow creators to register as
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approved creators um and then
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they started introducing that they want a share of the revenue so I believe it's
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a 6040 split by default and now
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now they are offering a 7030 split if
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creators are willing to remove any non
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Nintendo content from their videos like non- Nintendo
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games like are they for real this is there isn't even a debate
93:15
for us to have like are they are they are they even I I said this before the
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show this GNA be kind of a boring topic because there's you like can't really
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have another stance I can't even Devil's Advocate you
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like what do you want 5% I I even no I
93:34
even I even tried to to I like I don't know if you remember this but back when
93:39
they first started claiming monetization that was back when we were doing
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Nintendo streams on the Afterparty I was like well I kind of get it it is their
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music and it is their asset and in much the same way that if I put someone
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else's music as a backdrop to w show
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they could claim the monetization from it well okay yeah I I guess so but if
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you're going to then go and say well no okay we do understand the benefit that
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game streamers and let's players have especially for titles like a Super Smash
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Brothers for example where there is no
94:15
there is no entertainment in the viewing experience that overlaps with the
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entertainment of the playing experience spectating Super Smash and playing Super
94:25
Smash are two distinctly different experiences and the people who are into
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that might not necessarily have been into that and weren't going to buy it anyway necessarily and the people who
94:34
want to play it story driven watching it is not a replacement so particularly for
94:39
games like that or like a Mario Kart these are these are great examples of
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competitive style stuff different experiences viewing versus playing um so
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so Nintendo has acknowledged oh maybe there is a benefit to this maybe we shouldn't take all the money away from
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people who are driving eyeballs to our
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to our games um but then they go and they kind of they want to like nickel
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and dime these people like oh no we like really need the revenue so badly because
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Wii U and smash and Mario Kart are not
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selling really well and the entire Internet isn't hyped over the moon about
95:12
the upcoming Zelda game pretty well right now yeah Wii U and smash and Mario
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Kart are specifically doing pretty good right now so they should like not do
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this cuz they're probably
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fine it's frustrating so basically we don't even game stream but we think this
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is ridiculous you game stream yeah yeah
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so that's ridiculous um I've I've done game streaming of Nintendo content
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because I just don't care I'm not into it for that I want to
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play freaking Mario Kart so like whatever leave me alone yeah it helps
95:47
that you have a day job yes but I mean it's one of those things where you know
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it's it's easy for us to say yeah if we want to stream game we're really not
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going to give to craps about it because our day job is making Tech videos but
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for people who do rely on it this is extremely frustrating and this is the
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kind of problem that we do potentially face in the future where it's powers
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that be that control our Revenue stream not us it's funny I actually I saw a
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comment on uh I think it was on whole room water cooling something anyway U
96:14
someone asked what do these guys do for a living and uh I was I was about to
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reply and I saw there was already a reply I think they build computers I'm
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like what how can you watch our videos and
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not know that we make videos for a living uh some people don't understand
96:31
how long it takes to make it I guess that's true yeah I mean actually you
96:35
know what perfect example of this um my wife Yvonne had no idea how long b-roll
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takes for the upgraded new and improved
96:46
Linus Tech tips format cuz Brandon was over at my house which is the only place
96:50
where there's enough room to set up that oo gaming cockpit for which by the way
96:54
is coming out this weekend pretty excited for that I'm going to watch that one yeah um so he was over filming it
96:59
and we were there for like you know 5 hours and she was like yeah I had no
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idea it takes so long like yeah and the editing takes even longer than that so
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there I me there's pre-production and then there's actual filming which is
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actually by far the shortest part yeah
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scripting writing fil uh editing uh testing things
97:20
learning about the product roll all those things take a lot longer than me
97:25
standing there and reading off a teleprompter Nick testing the actual video setting it live at the right time
97:30
yeah the Forum topic all that stuff there's tons of things all right well I
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think that's pretty much it for the L show for tonight you guys are awesome
97:40
and we thank you for watching really hot in here I know it's getting hot in here
97:46
so turn off all the clothes I am getting
97:50
hot I will take my clothes off then
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their monetization for the stream was
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stolen TGI Friday TG
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oh every time I hear that I think of the restaurant yeah but I know the
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restaurant's not the original
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no mop your squares spaces with
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knowledge
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learn about how things fall I'm just going to cut you off