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special guest Mr Ryan Shrout to come in
and give us the once and for all he's
his set and everything he's on his set usually he's like shirtless and I have
to crop around around his head hold on Ryan don't talk yet I have to turn you
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am wearing glasses today isn't that fun
all right so welcome to the show Mr shout we are going to put to rest the
whole NVIDIA thing once and for all and we're going to kick this right off with
okay this is what this is what our viewers said to us last week are you
telling me you know looking us looking in the eye making eye contact are you
telling me that no one at NVIDIA caught
this no engineer ever looked at the spec
page once it was released and caught it and mentioned this they're saying that's
completely unbelievable I'd like to hear sort of the the flip side of that
argument I I would believe that it was
not caught until fairly recently only
because the the the now we're talking
about the r and uh cash size changes
only not the memory pool differences uh
but if you look at that like those those specific points those specifications are
not really listed on GeForce.com they're not really listed on NVIDIA's website as
far as I know the only place those were actually kind of published is in the
reviewer guide that they sent to editors
after the you know the launch day and before you know when we got all of our
our test cards and stuff sure and so then it took us reading those documents
and Publishing the incorrect information in your review and my review and
everybody else's review out there um and
I would find it uh I would find it
probably difficult to believe that zero people inside a company that size took
note of that like nobody said oh you know what it actually does doesn't have
two Megs of L2 cach on there but I don't
know if that person thought it was well it's not that big of a deal at this
point the information's out there and performance is what it is and we'll just
go about our business there I I I I don't think um you know I don't
think there was like big meetings between PR and Engineering said oh no we
have this discrepancy and should what do we do do
we want to hide it and bury it or you want to bring it up and they decided to bury it I think it was more likely a
the right people didn't notice uh and didn't didn't decided not to bring it up
to the people that would actually care if this had been something that they had
caught a week or two weeks into the 980 or 970 release I think they would have
come forward with that part about it I think so okay so let me let me s i I'll
I'll go and I'll play my audience's devil's advocacy once more and say okay
if you were this was actually this was actually a really good point someone I
feel bad because I forget their name but there was a really good point that someone brought up and that was if
you're an engineer who slaved away on this GPU for literally
years on launch day are you not sitting
at your computer reading the reviews that people are making about this
product that you spent so much of your time on like are you not even interested
do you does every single one of them
skip over the spec sheet because they know the
spec um I would guess I I think I think
I think it's it's a very valid point there I would guess that um many of the
of the engineers and and marketing and and Technical people at NVIDIA or amb or
Intel do what a lot of our readers do which is they kind of read that intro
and then they kind of go to the end there and kind of get what what is this
person's actual opinion on it I don't think they would really dive too much
into um a descript like my description
of the architecture that they built because they know it better than I do
right maybe some of them did I you know I don't know uh and if if they would
have found that discrepancy would they have brought it up to somebody
probably uh it's it's a it's a tough
it's a tough spot inidia in trying to convince people that that's that that
wouldn't have happened I I think the memory thing is much more impactful to
the consumer than the the cash and R concern necessarily um but so let's get
into that then okay so okay so pla
plausibly even an engineer who worked on the GPU might have missed that part of
any review because why would they give a crap they don't need you to tell them
how many shaders it has um but let's get
into the memory speed bit because it's
not the first time they've done it and
it's not the first time that they haven't really talked about it so is the
amount of butthurt out there Justified
should there be a class action lawsuit um I
don't if we get into the politics side of it is I tend to be on the uh
persuasion of class action lawsuits are rarely necessary but I I I would say in
this instance it's it's similar to what they and you're referring to what they
did with the 550ti and the 660 Ti and how that memory configuration work
compared to the 970 and it's similar in a couple ways and it's and it's
different in several ways as well like the the the bandwidth discrepancy
between the second pool of memory on the 660 Ti
and the primary pool was not nearly the golf that we have with the 970 it didn't
go from you know 184 gigs to 24 gigs per
second or whatever it is yeah um and also it was a significantly higher
percentage of the total frame buffer right so I think you were talking about
a 2 gig frame buffer at that time of which 500 Megs was this kind of
secondary pool so you're about 25% of the memory instead of8 of your memory um
so it's it's so it's important there but I I would the internet tends to as you
guys are well aware make things a little bit more um aggressive than they need to
be maybe uh it they tend to amplify
these problems more than they would be otherwise as you know the kind of the
snowball begins to roll and petitions are formed and whatnot change.org yeah
which Wasa changed anything the poor the most poorly wed uh petition to actually
get something done I've ever read but you know what's funny I haven't read
it I just assumed there was a change.org petition oh no there absolutely is oh
there absolutely is and it was it was written it was maybe by no fault of his
own it was written by a non-native English speaker so it's kind of like all
in it broken up and it's like I don't really know what they're trying to tell me but I know what their intent is uh I
I I think it's a I think it's something that's worth noting and I think NVIDIA
should have if if I don't believe that
they should have called it a 3.5 gig card but I think they should have been
upfront with the the technical media to
say hey some of this is a little bit
different you know and we we both know NVIDIA very well they come up they could
have made this a marketing uh positive
as opposed card with overflow buffer RAM
half a gig of backup memory 500 Megs of Super Cash 2.0 whatever crap they would
have come up with right and they could have done that and they would have sold
it as an advantage but now you come back look at it in retrospect and you you can
only really see it in a negative light there's no positive to it um The only
positive would be that you know this is this is something that the 500 Megs of
you know super cach whatever you want to call it is actually only possible because of the way Maxwell was built if
you look back at uh kind of that block diagram that I think you guys showed
last week as well that that the white diagram that that shows the different
blocks um had they wanted to do that before they would have had to disable
the entire block you would have had 192bit memory bus and you would have 3
gigs of Graphics memory but because of
the way uh Maxwell was architected to be more modular they were able to disable
just that portion of L2 and Rob to kind of help their yields and increase their
their profitability on the production side and thus you were able to get 500
Megs more uh of your primary frame
buffer than you would have been able to get to before and you kind of have this
500 Megs that you can access as this
secondary portion I guess but that being
said it is painfully obvious after
everything has gone on over the last 10 days that this was this was not the
right way to do it um yeah and they are
like somebody sent me a link last week to some uh uh Law Firm that is
investigating the the plans of a class action and they of course just to make
feel benefit law firms anyways yeah as far as I can tell I mean they men me as
in their descrip destion they kind of mention as quoted by PC perspective blah
blah blah like I don't want to be involved in this I don't need I don't
need any more depositions in my life I'm good yeah the funny thing about class
actions is there was what that Intel Benchmark one that got resolved a little
while ago where everyone got like $17 or
something like that so the only the only and it was and you have to go through a
filing thing for it and all this kind of stuff like so the only one who benefited
lawyers yeah because most people aren't going to claim it they're just going to
grab the cash anyways $17 is actually a lot for one of those if you're like a a
secondary uh uh plaintiff and that I I've had ones from like back in the DDR
memory days that are like $3 and $6 nice
it's like I I can't imagine the amount of processing and and kind of Records
keeping you have to have for that many people to be sent $3 checks that I then
have to go through the process of cashing or depositing and it's you know
yes the the lawyers end up on on the high side of that the intent obviously
to the lawyer side is to kind of uh inhibit other companies or this company
from doing that same thing again right it's more of a punitive it hurt side
yeah it just doesn't really benefit consum it doesn't end up B benefiting
the consumers other than unless unless that injury placed on the company
benefits them in the future but they're not getting benefited for purchasing
that item yeah yeah I don't think you're going to have a lawsuit that credits
everybody that buys a 970 with 1/8 of
the price of the card or you know or upgrade everybody to a 980 or whatever
how do you calate how do you calculate worth uh worth as well because memory
isn't 100% of the card so 18 isn't actually a prop yep yeah yeah okay so
then the other thing that I wanted to bring you on oh for those of you who don't know this is Ryan Trout from PC
perspective I realized I never really introduced him we just kind of brought him on and started talking about the 970
vram gate issue um so welcome to the
show Ryan thanks it's glad to finally be
on here you know thanks we were recording all that previous stuff right
because it was pretty good so uh jumping jumping forward to the other thing I've
got my NVIDIA sweater on by the way I don't know if you noticed I did I did
yeah I'm I'm I'm just I'm messing with everybody because I'm G to go and play
Devil's Advocate against NVIDIA okay while wearing my NVIDIA sweater that's
like my objective on the stream today I'm just kind of having fun with it I
got a really fun email from someone about um how I'm an NVIDIA apologist and
there was some terrible punctu in the email it was it was pretty funny
apologist and Unapologetic are so
overused now oh my God I'm
unapologetically in behind this bu shut up I got a we got we got more than my
fair share of those comments as well if you look through uh those couple of
stories from last week but I did do that so let's move on to the g-sync one
g-sync without a gsync module do you realistically think now that uh okay
here's here's the million-dollar question are we heading towards a future
where a monitor has the hardware in the same way that a motherboard has a PCI
Express slot so where the monitor has the hardware to realistically operate
perfectly with uh free sync or gsync and
it's just going to come down to the monitor manufacturer to certify or not
certify with a given maker is that where we're headed uh I think that's where
we're headed yes I think the the qu the
real issue here is when is that going to
occur right so the the kind of controversy around the GYN g-sync thing
was that well at first the guy claimed that he hacked a driver to make it work
when that that wasn't really the case but the insinuation was that oh look
g-sync modules are never really required you could always just do this and that's
that's 100% not the case like if you look at desktop displays that existed to
that exist today and that have existed for the past year that g-sync has been
around you could not do that with currently shipping scalers and currently
shipping you know display connection standards um but remember when AMD you
know like I think it was October or November of 2013 when we were out in
Montreal an NVIDIA demo ging for the first time that next January at CES AMD
had a laptop and they said oh look we can do it too and they showed a demo of
a variable refresh screen not to me because I'm not one of the cool kids but
whatever I hey you know well that you take that up with them that's I I try
not to take the blame for that one um but they did it on a mobile form form
factor for a reason right it was in a mobile form factor you have uh EDP uh
embedded DisplayPort you have complete control and knowledge over all of the
timing controllers and the display controllers between your GPU and the
panel you know everything in the pipeline which you do not know on a
desktop configuration so right uh desktop monitors are getting there and
that's why that's this is essentially what AMD's free sync is kind of has been
waiting for right there's a reason why freesync is not out and it's not really
because AMD is holding back on anything they need the technology to be out there
and they need stuff to actually work and function and what the mobile g-sync kind
of story showed us was that NVIDIA knows
this and um they also know that in the mobile form factor the mobile displays
you still you know all that information and they will go through a g-sync module
less certification process for mobile
variants of gsync at the very least but on the upside it's still up in year
right right and I mean there's there's
you got to assume NVIDIA is working on there like I I okay last question last
question about this because I know your wife wants you home at some point so do
you think what do you think NVIDIA's plan was were they looking to Kickstart
an entry into the display scaler business with a killer app Feature like
g-sync was that the objective like was the was the idea okay we've got this
totally non-cost effective solution but we're going to ramp up the business
volume we are going to rev two it rev three it rev four it we're going to get
into the display scaler business and we're going to make that work seamlessly
with our gpus or flip side was the
objective to actually have an exclusive
feature and they just didn't think that AMD and the scaler manufacturers would
get their crap together so
quickly um I don't think they necessarily wanted to enter into the
scaler Market specifically I don't think that's that's like a super profitable
business that they were trying to work their way in to um I what I what I
really think occurred is if you and I have quite a bit of
background on this is like if you they they knew panel self- refresh was a
thing right on mobile and on cell phones on laptops and cell phones they knew
what it was and they figured out that hey we could use that for the alternate
purposes rather than saving power to improve a gaming experience and in order
to do that they wanted to be first to the market with it they didn't want to
have to you know to submit a standard to visa and wait for it to be approved and
thus you know AMD and Intel and NVIDIA all be on the same um pathway right you
know that nobody would have any particular Advantage so they went through with developing the logic for it
working with Partners to make the displays and kind of integrating it
first because they wanted to be the uh the one kind of pushing the variable
refresh technology forward which they clearly had done as much as AMD deserves
credit with mantle for pushing the development of direct X12 NVIDIA
deserves credit with g-sync for pushing ahead adaptive sync and DP 1.2a plus and
all that right right and what I what I think will be the most interesting thing
to see is uh as we move into later this
year and freesync monitors are widely available and they are shown to work
mostly reliably and and pretty closely match the experience that we have with
uh gsync displays will NVIDIA continue to require a g-sync
module in their desktop displays and I think they will but not for the same
reasons that they have them in there today I think that NVIDIA has more plans
for display technology changes than just
variable refresh and in order to do that they want they need to have a piece of
logic on the other side it doesn't mean gsync monitor shipping today will have
those features but that you know gsync
2.0 whatever that happens to be maybe they introduce some more interesting
things other than just a variable refresh or maybe they just straight up
segment the desktop and the mobile gpus
that way they just say well look uh 980 supports whatever this new feature is
with a g-sync display and 980m doesn't
have it I mean they do that kind of thing all the time even stuff like um
Shadow play it's like oh it's desktop first or whatever else the case may be
and they might just not roll it out I mean even even in its current form the
for what we saw in this kind of alpha leak of mobile gsync it's it is not at
feature parody with gsync on the desktop right once you dip below that 25 or so
frames per second Mark there you know on the desktop g-sync there's an algorithm
in that in that chip that does work in terms of figuring out has it been too
long do I need to refresh and it doubles up frame rates at certain points and it
and it keeps the experience better when you go under that with the mobile
version it won't have that capability because the tcons don't have that kind
of logic they don't have the same size buffer um and so it's doubtful that they
will ever have feature parody between the two I don't know if they'll brand it
differently like gsync mobile as we kind of have branded it for them or gsync
light or whatever it is uh but they're usually better at it than uh SLI light
or gsync light but if you do lit te then
it's fine right dynamic dynamic super gsync maybe they'll do Li to TI yeah
yeah they they have they have a tremendous marketing department I'm sure
they're better than us at coming up with this crap so all right well I think that was that
was pretty much it I can take off my NVIDIA hoodie now thankfully because I'm
so was the razor armband supposed to look like an NVIDIA thing no no I'm just
wearing that because I I have an armband and my I've been this weird thing with
my wrist lately it's been really cold when I sit and use the mouse so I've
been wearing the thing just for warmth seems to make it a little more com if
that's happening you are on the edge of carpal
tunnel yeah well I've been on the edge a long time then well welcome to the fold
it Happ it goes away it's fine it's only it's only a a a lifelong issue that
you'll have for the remainder of your Living Years so yeah it was really bad a
couple years ago actually about three years ago I was having a lot of trouble
with uh with cold and and pain in my wrist and uh old people problems wow
guess we can continue that does hurt
I'm I think I'm older than both of you right line probably combined I think
yeah oh ouch that hurts
ouch yeah you're I think you're a little older than me I'm 28 yeah I'm 33 okay
yeah damn it little all right well I
think uh yeah I'll I'll let you get to your thing I think I had said we we'd
kick it kick kick you off at five we're also dropping frames on the stream that
I think are due to the uh to the video call right now so we got to let you go
but are you hitting up with your are you hitting that 3.5 gab frame buffer limit
and you're going into the secondary pool of memory maybe is that much slower it's
much slower I think I what do I deserve
in exchange for this no see this is the this is the like backup memory area
right so that's why it's still working at all we should be thankful that the stream is still on and then it's not
just dropping some frames this is this is the wait no I don't have my shill
sweater on there that's much better memory boost .0 now it's like a shill
Shaw right yeah like shill scarf nice as
long as it doesn't turn into like a shill noose then we're good all right
all right so before before before I go
plug uh before you end your show go ahead and plug our YouTube channels and
websites and everything so we can uh get do that now do that now want me do all
right so pcp.com that's uh where you
want to see all the stories on the 970 issue or the mobile gsync we've got that
there and then uh we compete directly with lonus and Luke on YouTube right and
nobody has enough time to watch any videos but if you go to youtube.com/
pcper you can see some of our crap there and try to figure out what all this L
red light is behind me as well the red light
district we can change it we can make it a green light district but I see unlike
you I decided I don't want the background to be green if I'm G to sit here and talk about NVIDIA stuff and so
you but then I come on and you're wearing the the NVIDIA hoodie that we
got at the gsync editor day which is it's a it's a nice shirt it really is a
nice isn't it I wanted one to be honest
I I feel like I feel like such a corporate [ __ ] wearing it like I I put
the thing on and then so it just adds the word corporate and then thank you
and then that um and that uh that super nice one we got at the Maxwell event too
at the 970 event that jacket the Jack W Breer yeah that is actually really nice
I had I have worn that I when I went to Montreal a couple weeks ago I took that
it was very nice um but I I don't let any I don't let myself wear it when I go
out to other events I don't let myself wear it when we're on video like uh if
Allan's here doing like a a storage video with me and he's got like an Intel
skull logo t-shirt I'm like sorry you got to go change shirts we're not do on
that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bring those comments upon us so but hey I mean
thanks for having me on guys and good luck the rest of your show all right
take care man good to talk to you as always see
you oh hold on hold on let me there we go you're
good no thanks Ryan okay byebye by right
all right so guys uh welcome back to our regularly scheduled content where we
talk about things that happened this week yeah so the LG G4 is rumored to
feature a 3K display let's go ahead and
uh oh hold on a second here let me just
make sure that I've while you're setting that up I'm going to do call outs for
the U Starcraft League winners of January Kane won the official League
which is like the not the tech Syndicate Kane no oh okay different no um k a y n
won the official League which is like the UL members league and Commander Fett
won the public league which is the best score against the
public okay that is what is going on
here I don't really oh I know what the issue is the issue is that my um my
screen sharing is no longer working is
is the is the a media plugged in yeah uh
um did it fall out okay so
Source uh try a different plug we can
try again could it be a USB compatibility thing that's not it uh I I
straight up don't understand uh what's
going on here so we can remove that and
then we can add camera and it will be correct wow I love
this show okay so let's go ahead and the
W show where we talk about things that happened last week carpel tunnel being
old and we don't prep things yeah uh so the LG G4 to feature a 3K display this
is rumored it showed up in some of the specs uh it's Al the rumors also point
to a slightly smaller 5.3 in display
it'll be 1620 by 2880 pixels which would be a pixel
density of around 626 pixels per inch which is very
impressive and completely necessary um the G3 had a 5.5 in display
and a 2560 x440 uh p screen which
resulted in 538 PPI and that was already
kind of ridiculous so from 538 to 626 I
already straight up couldn't tell um I don't have terrible eyes I'm wearing
glasses this week but my close-up vision is just fine um and it doesn't make a
difference past about 1080P and now
going past 1440p it definitely doesn't make a difference what I would like to
see instead is higher density displays
in other form factors um most notably on
the desktop because the issue actually this is something I talk about in our
XPS 13 review um so that display is also
a 3K display and the notebook is also available in a 1080p version Dell quotes
the 1080ps battery life as
25% higher again you can force a Mobile
screen to be smaller smaller well you're
talking about laptops on phones you can force different resolutions oh yeah no
that's fine I just mean the additional power required to drive all these pixels
is something that I don't know if I necessarily agree on with a mobile
device because and it should be noted that on the XPS 13 2015 found that's a
lot of numbers um the 1080p models also
tend to have lower spec CPUs so there's going to be some savings there as well
and Dell is obviously just approximating you know these higher power models get
about this much less so it's 12 hours on the high-end one and 15 hours on the
low-end one in of rated battery it's a very significant difference yeah
actually and I got to look at it and go well hold on a second like if we just if
we just didn't worry so much about all these pixels that especially especially
on a laptop where you're running Windows 8 and scaling is a complete disaster
just doesn't make a ton of sense to meh all right Microsoft now pays ad block
plus are you posting this one thing sure one thing we really need to remember
with this article is that ad block plus is not the same as all the different
versions there's block ad block plus other things that block ads um so this
is specifically ad block plus who we've who we've given a hard time to on this
show in the past about the whole Mafia style yeah um yeah you get paid for
security or what protection protection money yeah yeah yeah um but it looks
like Microsoft Google Amazon and tabula
are all paying to have advertisements go unblocked on their websites for users
that are running ad block plus so I
don't know I don't know who they're trying to make happy here um obviously
their users are not going to be super thrilled unless unless their users are
those users who are only trying to block malicious ads for example yeah yeah and
if if the idea was okay you know a site like
microsoft.com is probably vetting the uh
you know the ads making sure that there's no malicious code in them um if
the idea is they're kind of going okay yeah you're paying us for the service of
validating that your ads are not
malicious okay I've had enough Devil's Advocate this is such nonsense yeah it's
it's kind of ridiculous but I kind of think they're all ridiculous so I don't
know um I'm kind of surprised like I don't know how much exactly they're
paying but I'm kind of surprised these big companies are actually paying for
that well the way that okay the way that the whole program works is much smaller
websites like very small websites don't have to pay I think they just submit uh
they they just submit an application to be whitelisted whereas much larger
businesses are are intended to pay and
guess Microsoft is prob doing it for MSN msn.com or whatever their like kind
of homepage thingy where I think there is actually a bunch of ad I would imagine it's kind of across the board
yeah but that's probably the one they're actually worried about MSN video would be another big one man the ads are
obnoxious on MSN video every once in a while I kind of fall down the rabbit
hole on on MSN video because they tend to have a lot of really short like 105
second you know stupid Clips clickable things yeah like and I'll just kind of
and then I'll watch like another 30 second ad to see a 10-second video I'll
be like yeah I've had enough and then that that that saves the rest of my
evening um Time Warner
Cable this is actually a great article this is posted by oh we should go back
and uh Warrior surprising sorry oh oh keep Cy Warrior posted the 3K display
one uh Good Bites posted about Adblock Plus and this one is from Victoria
Secret do you want to go ahead and post this in the chat sure uh Time Warner
Cables 97% profit margin on high-speed internet
service exposed um actually the uh the digging
that was done by the author of this article is not particularly deep I mean
all he really had to do was look at some of the numbers that they are providing
us on the the telephone and uh on The
Voice side of things and and some other stuff and then kind of reverse engineer
the numbers for high-speed internet and it raised is some really interesting
questions if they're making 97% margin so he worked it out and he
figures H where is it their average
subscription is 40 something $
43.92 per month and their average cost
is a132 per month for the service that
they're providing to that customer and he he raises some really interesting
questions how did regulatory body ever
look at this yeah who makes 97% margin
on anything especially where it's been
proven that there's essentially no competition in terms of isps in the
states yeah it's esentially it's essentially localized monopolies yeah
which is ridiculous so you're basically
forcing Because the Internet is basically required at this point you're
basically forcing people to buy something that you are serving them at a
97% profit margin which is
insanity that's absolutely Insanity oh
man it's also interesting that the uh
reported uh it's it's reported that fees have increased by about 100% in a matter
of two years for some customers yeah this was this seems like this is an
article that uh the the author kind of
had close to his heart because uh he was actually talking about how his personal
Time Warner Cable basic triple play bill went up 112% in just 2 years from the
advertised price of $89.99 to
$19.77 that's insane it includes all
kinds of fees and SAR charges and Rental
this and uh one of them is a is a is a
defunct social contract charge which is an extra $5 a month that hasn't actually
been required apparently since 2001 um oh my God
you should be able to get your money back for that yeah CU isn't that it
shouldn't okay social cont what is that okay I think the fee was implemented and
then taken off the bill but then the money is still being charged or
something like that okay so time water is not necessarily taking that five no they're just jacking up the price yeah
they're taking a $5 yeah
no not necessarily that $5 is it a form
of tax though like is this a government regulated thing uh I don't know too much
about the social contract thing yeah cuz social contract sounds like some sort of
oh yeah it was supposed to be to fund the upgrade to the network yeah yeah
yeah like it that's what it was supposed to be for okay uh but oh so for it to
funds I guess it could just go directly to them yeah oh that's if the Network's
good enough then uh hey hey and it's not
so hey so hey yeah how how about them social
contract service charges you want to upgrade some things please I'm going to
enter into my own social contract well some cities are they're installing their
own networks and it's actually baller so
um yeah so one of the ones I didn't bring up was franchise fees um yeah what
does that even mean super gross so this is all based on 2013 records but I I
mean I knew that they were doing just fine all we have to do is look at the
you know all the commercial space they buy on TV and all the stadiums that
these companies name and all this stuff we could look at it and go okay they're
spending all that money and they're still doing fine um but I I had no idea
it was 3% of the actual of it was the ACT about
what like closed perfume and makeup are some of the most cuz printer ink yes
printer ink like all those things that are just ridiculous where like the the
nicest bottle of wine like ever is still very comparable to printer Inc in terms
of prices uh I I don't remember that was an article a long time ago I had to I
probably quoted it slightly wrong but it was ridiculous um yeah the bit about
drinking the printer ink instead of the wine I think that was the part you
screwed up that wasn't in there I didn't say that no you didn't anyways uh but it
was funnier yes uh like that's nuts
though that's absolutely ridiculous I wish our margin was 97% I guess what I
could do is just slash all of your salaries I think that's illegal
well this isn't this no that that isn't
legal I said I think that is il legal
isn't would mean that it's legal right I don't know if what they're doing is like
actually documented as legal because there's there's questions to be brought
up I this is a very old conversation so I won't delve into it for very long but
where the government's like here's money to build this stuff then you just don't
do it that should be under contract that should be illegal I don't think there's
any punishment for that yeah there should be something there should be
anyway we should carry on because that's a very old
very goes out of business in Canada and says they're going to have amazing deals
and my wife goes there on Thursday there should be amazing deals was there
nothing apparently the stores were just the store was just like packed and
people were buying things but she ended up leaving and going to Superstore to
buy some garbage cans for the new office because she knew they were actually on
sale um she the electronics department apparently was so full of people that
there was a lineup to get in so she didn't didn't actually go to the electronics but apparently just cuz I I
sent her there cuz we're going to need some Sundries for the new office and
things like toilet paper you know cleaning supplies um stuff like that and
I was like yeah just pick up some of that stuff I mean it should be like uber liquidation sale and apparently it's as
simple as just saying you're having a liquidation sale and people come and
they buy things they should just they should do that thing okay I don't know
about you viewers but this is a total thing here grand opening and and like
final closing sales thing furniture stores I swear every single furniture
store on like um Bridgeport Road and uh
and King George Boulevard and Richmond and sui like like you you drive through
furniture storeand and especially the smaller ones not the Big Chain ones like
half of them are having their moving sale or or liquidation sale or closing
down final inventory close out s grand
opening for like six years yeah there's actually a documented thing where one of
the stores in BC had a grand opening sale for years and I mean like the the
sign is faded you know yeah yeah yeah like it's old and faded and ripping what
did you buy someone else's used Grand Opening sale sign and put it on or if
you just ridiculous um all right so
there's ah yes a new Intel consumer SSD
750 series uh pops up on a compatibility
list so this is cool the code name is August Ridge it's the month I'm born in
so it's probably like Illuminati confirmed anyway um it was on the road
map for releasing Q4 2014 but that time has passed we're
still hoping we can see it soon and if we do then that'll make Intel the first
one to deliver an NVMe compliant SSD so that would be an
SSD that doesn't rely on the oldfashioned
ahci uh software layer to interface with
the controller so it would actually it's optimized for lower latency uh most
mostly lower latency it's optimized for the lower latency PCI Express
connections that new ssds are going to be connecting to whether it's over m.2
or over a standard PCI Express slot um capacities will be 180 240 360 480 and
600 gigs and
um yeah that's honestly there isn't a ton
to say I'm excited to see them in person fast rests are good yes for lots of
things I me here's something you might not even consider you know if your SSD in your
laptop or your phone is much higher performance okay ph's a bad example
because we're not getting this in phones but on your laptop uh is is using uh PCI
Express Bus and is using NVMe the faster
it can complete any transactions that it has to the more it's sitting there idle
instead of working so as long as we get nice power efficient super high-speed
ssds it's kind of like um it's kind of like how faster Wi-Fi
actually benefits more than just you
know oh okay there's less stuff sitting in the air essentially that's right
that's right it makes everything else that's on that Network faster because
you're not using up as much air time it's good yeah Sony has sold Sony Online
Entertainment I that's I'm actually kind of surprised they sold it especially
with the timing because H1 Z1 despite the highly controversial launch actually
seemed to be doing pretty well well okay launch into early activ Early Access
sorry I keep not posting links I keep forgetting to say who I've done I've
posted all the other ones it's me and King cry for the last two posting on the
Forum thanks guys this one is King cry um yeah like I is that even proper
terminology now because that wasn't even a real launch was it I'm I'm pretty sure
H1 Z1 is still in Early Access I think so yeah but then people were like oh my
God the servers aren't good enough because Early Access literally doesn't
mean Early Access anymore um you just
buy the game you just bought the game you're playing the game anyways dumb but
yeah apparently the company that bought it which has a terrible name of Daybreak
game company well no that they renamed
it to Daybreak game company yeah which is bought by was bought by like a
holding company columus Nova yeah New York's B firm investment management firm
but Daybreak game company
really um they make games until they they work
until so late at night the comes up that
might actually be true if you're a programmer yeah so maybe not that far
from the TR actually maybe it's the best name for a game company
ever I just didn't like that they're called game company I don't know why I'm
sure there's other ones out there called aren't we called I so I shouldn't have
called us lonus Media company I have never said that that was a good name
right I have forever said that that was a terrible name right moving on um what
did you want like dish water R anything other than lus Media Group
anyways um they're they're looking into they they said that they want to fully
embrace the multiplatform world in which we all live so that's bringing up
theories that they're going to bring H1 Z1 to consoles which is probably not too
surprising and mobile you just said H1N1 to consoles did I yeah hopefully we're
bringing viruses to
consoles H1 Z1 is what I meant to say uh
and apparently interested in possible mobile crap in the future so nothing was
interesting for us not all mobile stuff is crap um Square Enix keeps remaking
Final Fantasy ver mobile those are good
games oh Pokemon Pokemon Blue is a
mobile game bam
no technically yes not the mobile I'm currently talking
about you just you just got trashed son but technically yes
that is not wrong okay uh oh this is a
shame this was posted by Good Bites brutal this is like like I I'll post it
in the chat this is like a supreme ouch moment um do you know how oh you're
posting the broken ones let me let me do the posting
fine um this is great so oh it broke
again all right please stop breaking
andity boity no okay I don't
know oh can they hear us yeah that's not
what I meant to do now we're really big hi everyone yeah this is a fairly large
area that I'm in I've always been really big larger larger than the area that we
normally are when we're showing the now we're gone
oh you know what's kind of fun know what's kind of fun just start talking go
just go I I think this is a terrible idea okay I got Apple will spend two
billion to turn its failed Sapphire plant into a global Command Center so
you know how the rumor was that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would feature
sapphire glass screens and there was that viral video that Marcus brownley
made where he tried to scratch it and he bent it and was like w sapphire glass is
kind of amazing okay you can put us in the corner now um sapphire glass is
amazing well the company that Apple was actually
had actually thrown a lot of money at and who had committed to deliver the
volume of sapphire glass that Apple required in order to integrate this
product onto not just the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus but lots of their lots of
their products including the Apple watch well they GT Advanced Technologies like
straight up realized that they couldn't it and for bankruptcy so the uh 1.3
millionare foot building that Apple built to manufacture sapphire glass will
be um not for that they're going to make it a data center yeah which makes sense
repurpose the building if you can't do it but it's pretty brutal for a few
reasons they could fil it with trampolines that would be awesome
trampolines would do and uh the the ball
pits not my company would fill it with trampolines not air conditioning
trampolines mind you but definitely try uh I have bad news by the way the HVAC
is definitely on hold for the new office we are putting in the hold on just just
calm down we are and and and okay funny story funny story you might laugh um we
are not only not going to have air conditioning we're not going to have eat
I didn't yeah because it's going to be a combo unit I thought it would be when we
put it in um so the good news is we're putting in the
ducting so we can install hbac later but
we cannot afford it right now this the sound the sound dampening that we need
to do in the warehouse is have you figured more about that I I have figured
out more about that more research is being done it's going to be very
expensive is it looking positive into the buy some pizza and do it ourselves
um I'm not sure okay yeah not sure okay
so sorry what were we talking about right trampolines right they're repurposing it for data center you know
cloud storage and all that kind of stuff is all is all yes un the the part that I
was getting to sorry I was trying to remember what I was trying talk about um
the the really sucky part in my opinion is that it will now create 150 full-time
jobs and 300 to 500 construction jobs temporarily that sounds pretty cool
except that it was supposed to create 2,000 jobs permanently bummer now it's
150 that's a nasty drop it's one of the largest Investments Apple has ever made
and although of those 150 it's probably like data center people so people in the
audience might be more able to be hired
than the sapphire plant so that might be
good for like our group of people but it's not good for the overall Employment
Number all right so this is actually
look at this good news from
Ubisoft I think this is good yeah but
it's like good because they're reeling back from terrible oh it wasn't okay
it's like they shot someone and then they're like hold on let me let me fix
that they patch the hole stood by while
someone else got shot little bit of disinfectant they stood by how did they
stand by they shot this gun no they didn't yes they did well they didn't
they didn't okay let's hold on let's try's someone punched them in the face
they shot some other dude and they're like crap okay that's actually the bad
guy let me patch this someone else robbed their Bank okay okay so they so
someone else no no someone else robbed their bank so they went and stole stuff
from everyone that's ever used their Bank no someone okay Robin Hood
let's say let's say Robin Hood okay like dirty Robin Hood who's in it for the
profit to himself so definitely not Robin Hood not Robin Hood so a thief yes
okay so we're gonna call him dirty Robin
okay so dirty Robin busts into the bank
takes um money okay but but not like uh
not just like us cash let's say this happens in America okay but they don't
take us cash they take all the foreign currency okay that for some reason
people want no let's say it happens in Canada okay just
just you just no I'm going let's go okay
okay so they break into a Canadian Bank no one wants Canadian currency because
it's plummeting right now so they take all the US currency okay and then
instead of Distributing it to the poor they sell it to the poor for Canadian
currency that they then convert to something useful like Bitcoin and then
they have money I'm I'm well relatively useful it got a little weird at the end
okay okay okay so so that's what happened followed you yeah the Ubisoft
the the bank the bank thank you the Ubisoft Bank basically
invalidated the foreign currency serial
numbers that were stolen because it was stolen goods so they stole a stolen
property it is illegal to buy stolen goods but they bought it from a
legitimate store so we missed we screwed up part of that story okay so but will
they stool the money from a legitimate
bank doesn't I wasn't commenting on that
at all I was to saying we missed the part where like they they sold it to a
store that you would normally buy legitimate things from so the people
that bought it no no no uh the people
that stole from the bank a bank with a store in it oh I see what you're saying
cuz they're not buying the money yeah no you said they sold the money yeah they
sold well they exchanged the exchanged the money so they were a bank so a bank
stole money from a bank and then sold it to other Banks and then people bought it
from the yeah and then they cancelled the bank
money okay you know what why don't I just so basically Ubisoft is
reactivating Far Cry 4 keys that were invalidated due to
um okay you know what why don't you just do this because apparently I can't
handle it okay so I'm so lost now I
actually had like the I had everything for the story ready and now I'm just
screwed um essentially there's a whole bunch of keys uh stolen through
apparently G2 a whole bunch of keys were sold through g2a which were stolen or
something from other online retailers or whatever so Ubisoft just went and like
canceled everyone who had bought it from other retailers um although I don't
think that's actually a proper general statement it's said in the article that
way but I'm pretty sure steam ones weren't cancelled and that's technically
not you play right okay so I don't
really can you even buy far I remember didn't we buy Far Cry 4 through
Steam we did yeah we did but then I don't even remember there's something weird going on with you play in Far Cry
4 I don't remember how all that stuff went down but anyways a lot of keys got
invalidated because uh they were stolen or they assumed to be stolen or whatever
even if they were purchased from sites that would traditionally have been seen as the legitimate way to buy things um
and g2a has I think some form of
protection or something so people that got that are no matter what being taken
care of people that didn't are like probably being taken care of and right I
don't know their angle is super weird but yeah then Ubisoft went like okay I
think we need to like invalidate the ones that we think are currently stolen
but not necessarily activated and let people play that actually paid for it at
some point okay yeah okay so they're
like kind of trying to they're kind of trying to fix it here so Ubisoft got
screwed over actually yeah pretty hard and then they retaliated heavier than
they probably should have in terms of Saving Face right so dirty Robin took
their stuff and then they basically strung up everyone he sold it to from a
they did like the superhero recovery mode which where like they destroy half
the city while trying to get the villain right yes okay speaking of which we had
this conversation the other night I am like so excited for Incredibles 2 I know
it's like not even close and there aren't even like teaser trailers yet but
any there's nothing we can show you this is not an article yeah this is not this
is not a thing be a really good talking about the other night um speaking of
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have a variety of different things from Master up um that we can show you guys
today we've had a lot of people drooling
over this keycap set when uh what video
did I show it in I don't know I think it was in the iMac gaming video
iMac gaming no one's looking at the iMac no one's impressed by running Crisis 3
on it everyone's looking at this keycap set that's what I was looking at so this
was like a crazy I think this drop is actually over so I'm sorry guys I'm just
like showing you cool stuff Mass drop has that you can't buy but it's a full
PBT key cap set with like custom Star Trek themed Spacey lettering like
airlock key and like phase key resan for
clan key oh so it's mostly designed for people who already know what the keys
are supposed to be we should we should get super affordable though we should
get Nick Van Burl a keyboard that has a phas clan key on it then every single
time that he presses it it just plays the audio clip we should probably do
that actually that would be a good super fun just like how to do it how to yeah
like if we just make like a Phase Clan button yep that's actually toally
doe we should totally make that that drop is on until tomorrow oh that's what
our link goes to is the keycap set all right thank you
nips once again I have no idea what's going on I do have two he might as well
stay he does have notes on I just want to make it clear he does have notes on
his screen he just doesn't look at they're actually not technically on his screen right now he's like he he he not
only moved the screen away but he put a different window in front of it there's
your issue so there's like two layers of Defense from the knowledge okay well
they have other cool things that are over but the point is they have lots of
stuff that isn't just keyboards so this is the uh graffiti graffiti
Lin something yeah anyway so it's a little tiny USB charging cable they've
got a lightning one they've got a micro USB one we've actually featured a very
similar product before on handy Tech under 100 um so they've got like cool
little stuff like that and this I wasn't really sure about even bringing up on
the show we don't generally talk about
weapons a weapon
okay a gun is not a weapon you call it a
firearm okay I'm serious if you go get your gun Licensing in BC you call it a
firearm or they will not give you your license so the fact that I called this a
weapon means I should have as a Yes
mine you can use it technically as a
weapon but you don't describe it as a weapon and you don't use it as a weapon
it just can be you can use a kitchen pot as a weapon it is actually done in very
many times in movies you can use basic
you're you're I could use your BS logic is
going to be it happens in movies therefore you could hit you can't start
a sentence with that you could hit someone with a frying pan and that would hurt a lot I can't take you seriously do
you want to fight me with a frying pan No I don't want to fight you with a frying pan that is not the point that
we're talking about at all the point is draw. slw show for awesome drops like
this one bring it back around to the to
hand why do I even let you co-host this show
with me a a a frying pan could be very easily used as a weapon that would hurt
I didn't say it couldn't be used as a weapon I just said the fact that it
appears in movies is a complete I said it could be and then I
said in fact it is as an additional
Point not as a main point that was a
supporting article supporting supports
nothing speaking of for my thesis on on
on weapon variability speaking of supporting nothing uh consoles may get
4k support uh sometime in Q4 this is
good this is actually really helpful and can you actually do your job and post
this the twitch chat the the reason why
this is really helpful is this might bring more uh 4K content like Netflix
and stuff might push for more 4K content because of compatibility on other things
so non console people might actually get more 4K content that they can watch um
through that thanks to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One um finally joining 4 years ago
well okay well okay you could play 4K
video easily for quite a while on a PC in terms of a hardware but then the PS4
and the Xbox one already have the horsepower to play back 4K video it's
not freaking complicated um the problem
is that they don't have a display interface that's capable of playing back
4K video and we haven't had that on the PC for that long it has been a couple
years a good point but DisplayPort 1.2 is when we got that on the PC like
affordably without you know multi multi- linking multiple interfaces right two
monitors and bizel chopping or whatever yeah so what it seems like they were
waiting for was HDMI 2.0 and I suspect
since it's already I mean it it
hopefully the article covers this um I
don't remember anymore but I I don't think we're going to be looking at 4K
gaming anytime soon because that would be a serious as I told Hardware revision
it could it it just have to do puzzle bble yeah the arcade games or whatever
like it would you're not going to do yeah you might do arcade gaming stuff
that's about it so like 4K Stickman
Adventures 201 Edition uh maybe Tetris
unless they put too many cool graphics in they've done that sometimes but then
now that I think about it no they already have HDMI1 .4 they could
technically do HDMI video playback
already at 30 FPS this actually got said
as to no longer be an official statement anyways so so moving on cuz Netflix is
the one that said it and then they're like oh wait we can't talk on behalf of
those guys so
yeah that's about it three months later
Android 5.0 Lollipop uh the last one was posted by crater and this one's posted
by good bites has only 1.6% market
share wow we that is uh not a hell heck
of a lot um especially given that Android operating systems come in at the
whopping price of absolutely nothing
yeah uh to run on anything so this means
this means a couple of things um it or it could mean a couple of things number
one it could mean that KitKat was just fine um and handset ERS Andor users
simply don't feel the need to update uh number two is it could mean that the
devices that come pre-loaded with lollipop like the Nexus 6 uh NVIDIA
Shield tablet Nexus 9 um just aren't
selling that well but I really don't think that's it because the Android
install base is so massive I mean to put
it in the appropriate context Jelly Bean is still in the lead yeah and there have
been some pretty successful Kit Kat based devices um so I don't think that's
it and then number three and this is the one that I personally think is most
likely the handset makers that are validating lollipop are finding it just
kind of a bear to deal with and roll out to their devices um droid turbo was sold
with the promise of quick update to lollipop I mean we're 3 months in that's
not exactly quick these days um so so
there you go I mean I personally wasn't that impressed with lollipop but Google
has acknowledged the memory leak issue
um that they're hopefully going to be fixing and I think it was going to be a
5.1 update of the people that I know that have uh volli poop it it I I
haven't actually heard usually when there's a new phone OS you're like oh
there's all these cool new things about it like look at this new thing I can do
blah blah blah blah blah no nothing really I hear some frustrations about
like how notifications work and how you have to scroll through them and stuff and that's about it just some
frustrations have some extra clicks um all for the sake of material design yeah
that's that's about all I've heard is I have to do more things to be able to get
stuff done the thing that really annoyed me most and maybe this is petty cuz
Brandon doesn't seem to care he's running a Nexus 5 with lollipop um is
removing the dividing lines between all the characters on the keyboard yeah why
do you need to do that yeah don't why
don't you have uh better things to do swift key um oh yeah yeah but whenever I
whenever I fire up a new phone fresh install I try to use it until it makes
me mad and then that's my benchmark for whether it was good enough so so if I
have if I end up switching to swift key it's like how long did it take me to
switch to swift key that's how good their stock keyboard is well their stock
keyboard is about a two and a half week yeah it's a two it's a two and a half
week until it frustrates you start start giving it like its own values Ivon uh
recently switched to the 1 M8 and it was a one day keyboard for her the uh the
the the sense sense keyboard wow she was like this is
terrible cuz she'd been using the phone before and uh I was like no no it's okay
I can change it she's like no it's okay I'm like no no I'll change it for you
and so I put in swift key I put in the number row I removed swipe and then I
changed the delay for um for special
characters I do every single one of those are my essential essential
settings for swift key and she was like oh this is great this is much better um
dual GPU cards and configurations this
is posted by assassin and we are of course going to use the WCC F Tech link
because we love trolling you guys um M
oh really
wrecked wrecked wreck wrecked this is annoying it's probably a loose
connection somewhere I blame you you set it up all right I'll try not to add the
wrong camera this time I blame your feet I blame your on table I blame your face
you're probably bumping things what is going on here well whatever um we should
just like glue in all the connections so new lowlevel apis like uh anle and
DirectX 12 may allow game developers to
combine the video memory of multiple
graphics cards so the Autobon Hammer that 24 gig uh system that we built with
three 29x 8 gig cards could potentially have 24 gigs of video memory now to be
clear this is at least in the short term
completely purposeless because no game
developer is going to build a game that is going to take advantage of 24 games
not even just that I'm gonna quote a a little bit long quote here but still
quote just because they're running uh Windows 10 and dx12 and or mantle API
does not mean that your multi-GPU configuration is now stacking memory the
capability is present in these low-level overhead apis but they will not come
into effect until Dev specifically optimize the games as
such right so not only is there no games
that can really use that much VM right now but the devs are going to have to do
it themselves and looking at how long it takes them to even have multi-GPU
profiles at launch half the freaking time I don't see that many devs really
doing this at least not now so yeah so don't get your hopes up
there will probably be some sponsored titles I mean this is not just a PC
feature this is like a super esoteric PC
feature that a very small subset of that PC audience is going to be able to
leverage so uh so that's cool and that's
I'm very happy that it exists um one thing that's very cool about this is
that uh well it's mantle so it'll probably come to like everything else as
well and if it starts being available in kind of everything and then hopefully
starts being available as just a plug-in that developers can do instead of uh
having to manually code things for that then that would be nice so not now but
future speaking of speaking of mantle and direct X12 this is actually an
article I was reading oh for crying out loud right I don't have screen share
uh sorry is this a linkable thing uh can
I link this just on an unch oh you're going to do it there okay
yeah I'll just do it here um I just want to share the article that's all yeah so
I'll just add screen region bity Boop uh
here's my browser enjoy
okay there we go uh the direct X12 performance preview AMD NVIDIA and star
swarm so Ryan Smith over at Anon uh put
together some explanations of blippity bloop you can read all that if you want
here's the star swarm demo and the test
and here are the results so on cards that support direct deck 11 12 and
mantle we get to see all three results and for cards that don't support mantle
and video cards uh we get to see DirectX 11 and 12 so uh G GTX 9 980 gets more
than a doubling in performance moving from directex 11 to direct X2 and we've
also got on the AMD cards direct x 12 and mantle performing within spitting
distance of each other pretty well across the board mantle winning in every
case but definitely within spitting distance yeah yes mantle does does Edge out
direct X12 in every case but I think that if people were hoping that mantle
was going to be the reason to own an AMD card um they're I think well basically
if they work at AMD um then I think they're going to be a little bit
disappointed because the thing is that star swarm is kind of a a worst case
scenario it is designed to Showcase
scenarios where there are far too many draw calls for directx11 to be able to
handle it efficiently and to create CPU
bottlenecks it's designed to do that whereas real games these differences
that you see between mantle and direct X1 we've already seen that in real games
you're not looking at a doubling of performance from from direct X1 to
mantle you're looking at maybe a couple of percent a few percent um so that
difference between mant and directx12 will be a fraction of a
fraction of that other bigger difference that ended up being much smaller yeah so
and then if we do end up doing that which we probably will eventually end up
using all that performance um DirectX 12
will have well we might not even be on DirectX 12 at that point we might be
further on but that Gap probably will have closed at least a little bit
anyways yes but yeah it's it's a little
bit disappointing that it has to be has to lean so much on developers we're
seeing so many things come out these days where uh to quote Balmer developers
developers developers ey tracking leans on developers VR leans on developers
this leans on developers so much stuff is doing that and it's uh yeah as a
developer right now I would be scared and excited at the same time all right
speaking of being scared and excited this was posted by Alex Goes High Razer
has upgraded the blade with Maxwell and
more importantly for me since I'm a bit of a tab fiend more RAM so the blade is
now available with a gtx970m instead of an 870m and 16 gigs
of RAM is now an option on the higher end skew you still have that same high
resolution exop panel display Luke is
I'm trying to fix it doing things here I got kind of a funny idea uh so which one
is this this is this one oh what the oh what are you doing I was going to I was
going to give them like a behind the scenes of what you were doing well I'm
trying to coniger the a med actually I'm just going to point it at your butt why
are you doing that why would I not do that I don't know this doesn't seem like
very high quality show content
hello look at my nose what you got going on down there well there's computer
cables and carpet and video cables and video cables oh look a wheel hey a foot
oh why don't you wear Footwear at work uh because I don't want to right okay
why don't you have air conditioning installed uh because it's expensive but
where's expensive that's true Footwear not the kind you would buy no nothing
you would buy is expensive no um okay they upgraded the CPU from an i7 4702 HQ
to an i747 20hq that movement of the two
is actually very important that signifies a TDP jump from 37 to 47 Watts
uh which the more efficient 970m allowed
although personally I probably would have opted for more battery and uh not
bother with that minuscule gain in CPU performance um there's also a new
lower-end version with a 1080p display and 256 gig SSD for 2 Grand still very
expensive commenting on the CRT um oh
the CRT yeah the CRT is for uh retro games
mhm next so I I guess here I'll post this one I'll let you uh I'll let you
handle this one or we I guess we could both handle this one so the FCC will
declare the internet title 2 and apply net neutrality rules to
mobile yeah that is awesome so great
news wheeler did a bit of a jump face and started actually supporting the
people that he's supposed to which is cool um and started backing up saying
like oh yeah well we we we've listened to uh the communities and the people and
all this kind of stuff for once apparently um and now yeah title 2 and
blah blah blah there's some kind of sketchy things in this I'm not going to
go over too much over title 2 as we've covered that in previous episodes but uh
they want to modernize title 2 we were talking about this before the show um I
actually just kind of skimmed over it initially thought that modernized title
2 just kind of meant that they're going to modernize the infrastructure behind
title 2 like the physical infrastructure behind title 2 apparently they might be
uh changing kind of how it works but a lot of it should be in terms of uh
where's his exact wording for it tailoring it for the 21st century in
order to provide returns necessary to construct competitive Network so so so
yeah we're talking about the physical
infrastructure changing and the rules of
of title 2 altering to enable that to
happen but if we if we were to take the
optimistic approach to that statement and go oh it's to it's to prevent the
kind of nonsense that's already been going on for the last decade with the
internet um then then that that's great
I mean some of the other points here no rate regulation no tariffs no Last Mile
unbundling um and this means the action we take will be strong enough and
flexible enough not only to deal with the realities of today but also to
establish ground rules for the as yet unimagined the internet must be fast far
and open this is the message I've heard if we're to sort of believe all this
then this is incredibly good news it seems like too much of an about face for
it all to be positive I feel like there has to be something and I'm worried
about that that could be my like pessimism coming out
but I mean the theory is that the FCC is
supposed to be on the side of the consumer but they like haven't really
shown that until now which is
sketchy yeah I uh I just I just I mean I
I got to wonder where they was he keeping quiet just because he didn't
want to shake the boat yet and this was the plan all along I mean uh he brings
up uh I don't think this is in our notes but it was in the article but he brings
up a company that he used to work for that got uh contr F the nabo yeah I it's
called Naboo it is in the notes is it tells the story of NAB the home computer
network a competitor to AOL a startup that he was the president of that failed
because networks acted as Gatekeepers so I mean you know was he
was he on our side all this time I I I don't know don't really think so but
maybe didn't look that way no um speaking of not being on our side this
was posted by powder banks that last one was from Smitty shei and the previous
one was from Alex Goes high and then the previous one was from assassin well we
didn't do any for a bit um China will require real name registration for use
of the internet and we're not talking real name registration like you have to
pay for your internet service from your provider and you have to pay them with a
credit card that has your name attached to it we're talking about the burden
being put on isps and internet companies
to enforce the new rules which are that the 650 million people who are online in
China need to be personally identifiable online in their goings
about super dumb I just now can I play Devil's
Advocate or you just gonna get mad are you get all mad I know can you just stay
calm for like two seconds thank you you know those are all things that just make
people mad I know when you say okay um so okay so the The Devil's Advocate sort
of um glass half full side of this is oh
it will reduce you know uh inappropriate
internet behaviors like swatting or trolling or or bullying or just just can
you just I said two seconds two seconds
I didn't get mad you I was watching you in the screen I saw what you did uh so
let me take not being being identifiable
online will lead to more personal accountability for one's actions when
they go about their business online that is the that is the devil's advocate sort
of version of that now what I actually
personally think is that it's not going to help with that at all I mean there
are sites and there are communities where they have tried to enforce uh
people using their real names um didn't seem to help a whole lot with
go+ um so so there's there's that but
aside from aside from it not working the
fact that there are communities that already have this that encourage the use
of real names like Facebook means that if people wanted to engage in that way
then they would go to those sites and they would do it this way we're not giving people a
choice and it feels less like a benevolent sort of Nod to you know high
school kids who are getting bullied and more of a way to keep tabs on what
people are doing and what they're saying and in the context of of you know
someone's being a dick to me on Twitter
I guess yeah I would probably like to know who that person is so I can call
their mom so that I can be like yo do you have any idea what your little crap
turd of a son just said to me or daughter whatever you know gender
equality um girls can be rude online too
um so so that side of me is like yeah
this is great but the flip side is you know what if someone lives in a country
where they're oppressed for their religion or their or anything else about
them and they can't they can't find other people they can't find support
that's that's a huge problem where if they need to speak out against their
government online or get access to news sources that are not censored by their
local government I mean having anonymity as you browse the web is incredibly
important can I talk now all right get all mad I'm not no I'm not getting mad
you said uh because you you you Devil's Advocate and then you went back which is
weird as a devil's advocate to well I didn't say I was a good Advocate you
fought against yourself for way longer than you fought for Devil's advoc you
were like here's some small points now I'm going to destroy
myself like okay sure um you said less
swatting and less trolling I think those are
specifically totally wrong I think they'll be way more swatting cuz
swatting is anonymous for the person that's doing it unless it's not and if
every internet user was identifiable on every site that they're using right you
could pick up a phone but if you pick up a phone then that's tied to your
landline I'm assuming any any regime regime that's requiring you to register
online proba knows there's always ways to file Anonymous yeah that's true
information Anonymous information and that's how like basically okay squatting
bad example online bullying though perhaps online bullying yes but this
could pull more bullying and more trolling into the real world which is a
lot worse than being bullied and trolled online not that we're saying online
bullying isn't real and isn't a problem it's just no but saying I'm going to
punch you in the face and actually punching someone in the face are very
different things I would way rather someone goes I'm going to punch you in
the face on on a keyboard and then
finish the game we're playing in and go on to other matchmaking instead of
having them go Kabam in real life right and now obviously not every time that
happens is it going to happen but when people can't vent their frustration in
that way uh it might happen more in the real world this is actually something
that's been happening in terms of uh studies with violent video games a lot
which is where a lot of people can use it as a venting mechanism instead of actually doing it it reduces violent
crimes by a lot where you can play like GTA and just do stupid crap and then go
play golf afterwards in GTA um is
actually helping reduce a lot of the like violent crappy things you might do
in real life because you can you can vent it's an interesting idea and if
you're removing all of that that's actually not a good thing I'm not
advocating for trolling on the internet I think trolling on the Internet is stupid the amount of crap that happened
on The Forum over the 970 thing was ridiculous and like totally not okay and
I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people on The Forum but I'm happy that
wasn't a whole bunch of people standing in a building fighting each other cuz
that would have been worse like I don't know this is fairly like
straightforward stuff I don't know all right so let's move on to something
that's also fairly straightforward uh this was posted by nine shadow on the
Forum the Samsung Galaxy S6 chassis has
been leaked allegedly uh it looks like it's going to have an all metal non
removable back uh appears to look fairly
similar to the iPhone Ione 6 I'd love to show it to you guys uh actually
Galaxy S6 here we go blah blah blah blah
blah chassis
leak okay blue okay let's go come on Forbes
hate that thing continue to site here we go so here's the article from Forbes
where they're showing how very Apple like the alleged Galaxy S6 chassis is
going to look that is very they're going to get the pants suit off of them yeah
that seems very possible so let's go ahead and tuck tuck that away for now
tuck tuck yep um I think there's a
reference there that I missed a few people will get that so it's going to
use glass material in the front and back some of them are apparently going to
have like curved curved screens uh like curved Edge screens and some of them are
not um Samsung pay is said to be embedded in the phone good luck with
that Samsung um might be based on
magnetic emitting that mimics your credit card so not NFC uh potentially
accepted in 10 million points of sale without retooling existing machines I
still wish them luck although Apple pay is apparently only available in 200
100,000 spots for me it's more of a trust issue and less of a um like
trusting the technology Apple does a good job know I hear you yeah um
complely agree apparently the rear will be non- removable so as much as the S5
was not a huge success for Samsung and I think that's kind of putting it lightly
I think that taking away the things that
made the Galaxy S the Galaxy S um things
like removable battery is
probably not like I I don't I don't see an iPhone 6 clone being a way to win new
customers and I don't see taking away the things that sold your phone to
someone else a generation or two ago being to retain your existing customers
so I really have to wonder what exactly is the plan here right now or if it's
real or if it's even real yeah could be totally fake so there's that I I really
wonder sometimes these things are freakishly accurate so it it could be
right but it's it's is really close yes more often than
not Yep this is really really close I have to clarify something I think a few
people in the chat thought I meant that people attacking NVIDIA on the Forum
was super bad I wasn't talking about that I was talking about personal insults going to each other yeah we
don't want members fighting we don't care if people are upset with that's
like a rule on the Forum you're allowed to attack companies you're not all sh
sweater bring back the shill sweater so you can attack lonus on the forum for
wearing a shill sweater CU that's fine but you can't attack lonus for well
actually you can attack lonus on fair game we that's what I'm saying we don't we don't count we are members but we
don't count you can attack us and you can attack companies but don't attack
other members of The Forum that's not a thing if you disagree with what they're saying use an intelligent argument to
talk about how you disagree with what or better yet don't reply no because there
could be intelligent argument yeah then don't reply yeah if they seem to be
stuck in their way yeah yep recognize when people are trolling you like this
right now yeah you did that at really good
timing you owe me a coke I don't want a Coke I think you already owed me a coke
from our last text Jinks yeah we'll call it even we can just buy each other
nothing that works better for
me all right so the Nintendo creators
program which was already ridiculous so you guys I mean if you've been following
this whole Fiasco Nintendo was claiming
monetization against uh let's players and game streamers who were streaming
their games um you know based on that they're using the in-game music and
artwork without um having created it
themselves when the content creators the guys who are playing the games are are
arguing that it's actually their commentary that is the content and this
is a fair use whatever anyway um so
Nintendo sort of about faced on that and
created the Nintendo creators program that would allow creators to register as
approved creators um and then
they started introducing that they want a share of the revenue so I believe it's
a 6040 split by default and now
now they are offering a 7030 split if
creators are willing to remove any non
Nintendo content from their videos like non- Nintendo
games like are they for real this is there isn't even a debate
for us to have like are they are they are they even I I said this before the
show this GNA be kind of a boring topic because there's you like can't really
have another stance I can't even Devil's Advocate you
like what do you want 5% I I even no I
even I even tried to to I like I don't know if you remember this but back when
they first started claiming monetization that was back when we were doing
Nintendo streams on the Afterparty I was like well I kind of get it it is their
music and it is their asset and in much the same way that if I put someone
else's music as a backdrop to w show
they could claim the monetization from it well okay yeah I I guess so but if
you're going to then go and say well no okay we do understand the benefit that
game streamers and let's players have especially for titles like a Super Smash
Brothers for example where there is no
there is no entertainment in the viewing experience that overlaps with the
entertainment of the playing experience spectating Super Smash and playing Super
Smash are two distinctly different experiences and the people who are into
that might not necessarily have been into that and weren't going to buy it anyway necessarily and the people who
want to play it story driven watching it is not a replacement so particularly for
games like that or like a Mario Kart these are these are great examples of
competitive style stuff different experiences viewing versus playing um so
so Nintendo has acknowledged oh maybe there is a benefit to this maybe we shouldn't take all the money away from
people who are driving eyeballs to our
to our games um but then they go and they kind of they want to like nickel
and dime these people like oh no we like really need the revenue so badly because
Wii U and smash and Mario Kart are not
selling really well and the entire Internet isn't hyped over the moon about
the upcoming Zelda game pretty well right now yeah Wii U and smash and Mario
Kart are specifically doing pretty good right now so they should like not do
this cuz they're probably
fine it's frustrating so basically we don't even game stream but we think this
is ridiculous you game stream yeah yeah
so that's ridiculous um I've I've done game streaming of Nintendo content
because I just don't care I'm not into it for that I want to
play freaking Mario Kart so like whatever leave me alone yeah it helps
that you have a day job yes but I mean it's one of those things where you know
it's it's easy for us to say yeah if we want to stream game we're really not
going to give to craps about it because our day job is making Tech videos but
for people who do rely on it this is extremely frustrating and this is the
kind of problem that we do potentially face in the future where it's powers
that be that control our Revenue stream not us it's funny I actually I saw a
comment on uh I think it was on whole room water cooling something anyway U
someone asked what do these guys do for a living and uh I was I was about to
reply and I saw there was already a reply I think they build computers I'm
like what how can you watch our videos and
not know that we make videos for a living uh some people don't understand
how long it takes to make it I guess that's true yeah I mean actually you
know what perfect example of this um my wife Yvonne had no idea how long b-roll
takes for the upgraded new and improved
Linus Tech tips format cuz Brandon was over at my house which is the only place
where there's enough room to set up that oo gaming cockpit for which by the way
is coming out this weekend pretty excited for that I'm going to watch that one yeah um so he was over filming it
and we were there for like you know 5 hours and she was like yeah I had no
idea it takes so long like yeah and the editing takes even longer than that so
there I me there's pre-production and then there's actual filming which is
actually by far the shortest part yeah
scripting writing fil uh editing uh testing things
learning about the product roll all those things take a lot longer than me
standing there and reading off a teleprompter Nick testing the actual video setting it live at the right time
yeah the Forum topic all that stuff there's tons of things all right well I
think that's pretty much it for the L show for tonight you guys are awesome
and we thank you for watching really hot in here I know it's getting hot in here
so turn off all the clothes I am getting
hot I will take my clothes off then
their monetization for the stream was
stolen TGI Friday TG
oh every time I hear that I think of the restaurant yeah but I know the
restaurant's not the original
no mop your squares spaces with
knowledge
learn about how things fall I'm just going to cut you off