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Linus Tech Tips Live Show Archive - October 5th, 2012

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0:00 holy crap we're live welcome everybody

0:03 to I think this is like my fifth or sixth live stream something like that um

0:08 either way I think I'm getting a little bit more used to the routine I see

0:11 there's lots and lots of people joining us in the chat

0:16 already um actually not that many but we're starting so you know hopefully

0:20 more people will will tune in soon I've got a lot of really cool stuff to talk

0:24 about today and as usual we'll be doing a fair amount of Q&A mostly on Twitter

0:30 so guys if you're not already following me on Twitter make sure that you put in

0:34 the thing it's like the at symbol or something at symbol Linus Tech follow me

0:38 on Twitter because that is the way to interact with the show however um there

0:43 are some challenges with Twitter Twitter is not actually the best platform ever

0:47 and you know what actually I've come up with another topic for tonight's live

0:51 stream and that is the fact that I absolutely hate hoot it's the stupidest

0:55 thing ever and I'm going to show you guys all the reasons I hate it and I

0:59 really hope someone from Twitter or hoot or someone who knows someone who knows

1:03 someone at hoot is watching this because

1:06 uh yeah it's not very

1:09 good whoa and I've got an audio Echo

1:13 going here hold on a second I'm g go

1:16 ahead and turn that that there down and of course because my cat chewed

1:21 up my uh hold on oh can't take that right now because my cat chewed up my

1:26 volume control I actually have a really hard time adjusting in it yeah it won't

1:32 uh won't turn off come on there we go

1:37 there we go all right so let's open that back up hoot it's not very good there's

1:42 my note for later so I guess what we'll do is we'll just get started here

1:47 so huge well first of all I guess thanks

1:51 for tuning in guys uh we've got like 300 people watching already so that's that's

1:55 outstanding given that I haven't you know what let's give the guys who are

1:59 waiting for the YouTube video let's give them a chance to tune in I'm actually

2:03 super impressed with and yes the giveaway announcement will be today and I'm sorry

2:08 for that tweet where I called it a GTX 670 it is not a 670 my bad it is a GTX

2:16 660 Ti which is also a perfectly good

2:19 graphics card and by perfectly good I mean awesome so uh so yeah we're going

2:23 to do that later and uh where was I going with that

2:28 yes doing oh yes right my YouTube video isn't even up yet so the YouTube viewers

2:33 haven't even had a chance to tune in because uh the first recording I did

2:37 like I do a recording and then I upload that to YouTube so that they can tune in

2:41 and then they can see the live stream but unfortunately the first one I

2:45 recorded didn't have any sound so I uploaded it and fortunately I realized

2:49 that it had no sound before anyone actually anyone actually looked at it um

2:56 and I I mean I know I have technical problems with my videos some sometimes

3:00 but um yeah I'm trying to avoid them trying

3:04 to avoid them as much as possible so let's see if uh I just want to make sure

3:09 that video's up let's go ahead and check

3:12 if the YouTube viewers are going to have a chance to tune in yet yes it is up

3:16 there are nine comments and five views and poor poor this guy I mean what what

3:23 what is this name here I I I have like I

3:26 have no idea I have no idea what this name is here check this out

3:31 like uh I I don't stand a chance of reading this anyway he just wants to go

3:36 to work and I'm very sorry that my live stream is going to be interfering with

3:41 work because that's uh that's very sad and I hope that you do tune in either

3:45 way so I guess let's get started topic number one today is

3:50 NVIDIA's green light um I'd love to see

3:54 on on Twitter or on the chat on Twitch

3:58 who here is familiar with what green light refers to okay Oscar says

4:04 Venezuela says hi that's cool Oscar hi

4:07 to Venezuela as well okay Jason says hey

4:12 lonus you're live is the speed of your RAM important to overclocking no

4:16 generally speaking not really it's um

4:20 it's less of a factor now that we have unlocked processor so RAM didn't matter

4:25 back in the day when AMD had unlocked multipliers and then RAM mattered a lot

4:30 in the uh in the socket 478 days RAM was

4:34 everything getting high performance high frequency RAM was the only way you were

4:37 going to get the maximum overclock out of your CPU and then both Intel and AMD now have

4:43 unlocked processors so you actually don't even need to adjust your RAM speed

4:47 in order to get whatever overclocking you want um Adrian wants to know how I

4:51 know Logan honestly I don't really know Logan I've never met him in person just

4:55 we've exchanged tweets and emails and YouTube private messages over the last a

4:59 while here um that that's about it we only really know each other through like

5:03 like the YouTube the YouTube Brotherhood so I I'm late tonight Brian I am not

5:09 late tonight I was exactly on time I was about as on time as someone could ever

5:14 be for a live stream that starts when they show up so no matter what I do no

5:19 matter what I do I'm on time so no one

5:22 I'm not familiar with Greenlight oh this is great green light is extremely

5:27 interesting so it started with the firm architecture cards and what green light

5:32 basically is is okay let's say Galaxy for example Galaxy um colorful palette

5:38 actually I don't know if colorful is a GeForce partner I I don't remember whatever they're not in North America so

5:42 let's go with the GeForce Partners MSI Su C VGA all of these guys what green

5:47 light means is they create a design for

5:50 a card so if you guys aren't familiar with how an adom board partner Works

5:53 basically NVIDIA designs a chipset so that's a that's a

5:57 GK 104 4 for example gk104 is the chip

6:02 that's on a 660 Ti it's also the chip on a 670 a 680 and a 690 but there's two of

6:06 them so they have a chipset then they do a reference design

6:11 where they take that chipset and they completely design a product around it so

6:15 they'll put on a memory amount of memory they'll put like a suggested memory RAM

6:19 speed frequency timings they'll design like a power delivery system and they'll

6:24 make a PCB for it they'll do a cooler that is a reference card so it's

6:28 actually designed in every possible way by NVIDIA although NVIDIA manufactures

6:32 nothing NVIDIA's chips themselves are manufactured by a third party such as

6:36 tsmc and their cards themselves are

6:39 actually usually man well not usually they're always manufactured by someone

6:43 else as well so when NVIDIA does like a

6:46 new launch for example if they launch a a reference GTX 680 that means one of

6:51 their addin board Partners was probably contracted to produce all the reference

6:56 680s which then the other partners have to put their sticker on and you know

7:01 they're kind of doing it as a favor for NVIDIA so they probably don't make a whole lot of money on it and all of that

7:05 but that's okay reference design okay

7:08 now the addin board partners are more than welcome to design their own many

7:13 aspects of the GPU so you've seen you know EVGA with their billion different

7:19 versions of every GPU where they've got a super clock and a super super clock

7:23 and a for the win and a for the win plus and a super Super Clock Plus and a

7:27 classified they've got so many cards cards so some of those have different

7:32 cooling solutions some of them have different clock speeds some of them have

7:36 different Power delivery which will enable better overclocking some of them

7:40 will have different amounts of RAM so they might be 2 gigs three gigs four

7:45 gigs six gigs doesn't matter um these are all the different things that the

7:48 add-in board Partners can do they can add different display outputs so great

7:52 example was evga's 570 HD where they

7:56 actually added and this isn't a 570 but they added a DisplayPort out which none

8:00 of the other 570s really had they were mostly dual DVI with a mini HDMI another

8:05 example would be Galaxy's 570 MDT which actually had triple display outputs on a

8:10 570 before NVIDIA officially introduced that feature with the 600 series okay so

8:16 we got reference designs then we have addin board partner designs and that's

8:20 anything that was designed by someone other than NVIDIA and doesn't look like

8:24 that standard NVIDIA card

8:27 okay so green light means that Nidia it

8:31 has to approve or give the green light the goahead to any design that a

8:36 manufacturer submits before it gets

8:40 released to Market so what does this mean there's a

8:44 lot of different sides to the story so I'm going to give you guys a little bit of the history of what's happened to

8:49 bring the green light program to light to light to Green Light uh to light

8:54 recently so number one is MSI's power

8:57 edition cards they're power edition cards cards they're Hawk edition cards

9:01 Nidia has a certain spec so you know

9:05 this is aside from the cooler and the clock speed whatever they have a certain spec for how much voltage they want

9:10 appli to the GPU how much voltage they want to apply to different parts of the

9:15 kit that is used to make up this graphics card where the add in board

9:18 partner can design all the other stuff and what MSI was doing was they were

9:23 allowing the gpus to be overvolted and

9:26 overclocked in a way that inidia did did

9:29 not authorize now Tom's Hardware did a fantastic article actually it was the

9:34 German site that I think did the original article but there's an English version that's sort of shorter and and

9:39 easier to read for people who don't read German like me and uh what they

9:44 basically discovered was that MSI was dramatically overvolting one of the

9:47 components on this board in order to achieve the results they were getting I

9:51 mean a 660 Ti power Edition when maximum

9:55 overclocked could actually run right there with a gtx6 70 reference card when

10:01 they were both at their maximum overclocks which basically means you'd

10:05 have to have rocks in your head in order to buy a 670 reference card when this

10:10 660 Ti power Edition was just as fast

10:14 once you overclocked it so so they discovered that's that's what

10:19 they were doing um it was also then discovered that MSI is revising the

10:23 cards um in order to adhere to NVIDIA's

10:29 guidelines with respect to GPU voltages

10:33 and um and the overall design of the card to get it sort of greenlighted

10:37 again now green light doesn't mean that MSI cannot release the product you can

10:41 see they released the 660ti power Edition even though it was not running

10:46 according to spec so what NVIDIA has basically come

10:51 out and said in the last uh the last day or so is that it's not a matter of them

10:56 redlighting a product they're not saying okay you can't release this product to

11:00 the market but what they are saying to the add-in board Partners is if you

11:04 release this product we are not going to

11:07 warrantee the components that you bought from us so basically they're voiding the

11:14 addin board Partners warranty for overclocking outside of the certain

11:20 threshold that NVIDIA wants overclocked

11:23 another example is EVGA 680

11:26 classified that um is no longer sold

11:30 with the evbot utility that allowed it to be

11:35 overvolted okay so a couple different ways to to interpret this number one is

11:39 you could kind of go Rubble Rubble Rubble NVIDIA is limiting the board

11:43 Partners in terms of what they can do in the terms of the designs they can bring to market the performance they can

11:47 deliver to Gamers um so that's that's one perspective the other perspective is

11:52 uh this is from NVIDIA's Camp is that the green light program is designed to

11:57 improve the reliability and the consistency of the experience for

12:02 GeForce gpus for gamers so NVIDIA has an

12:06 internal philosophy that and I agree with them 100% on this that if your

12:10 video card dies after a year or two

12:14 that's not a good thing and that that's

12:18 going to create a bad customer experience a bad experience around the

12:22 GeForce experience and NVIDIA is deeply concerned with what kind of an

12:26 experience the customer has whether they buy a gal Galaxy card an EVGA card ASUS

12:32 whoever it doesn't matter from their perspective they want to make sure no

12:35 matter who the customer chooses they get

12:38 a great experience so they're evaluating things in this green light program

12:42 they're evaluating Acoustics they're evaluating the temperatures they're

12:46 evaluating the um the size of the gpus

12:49 making sure that the customer is going to have a great experience so from their

12:53 perspective they're kind of sitting here going okay we did all the work on this

12:57 we understand how this chip worked down to its very like

13:02 microscopic level we've done all the testing and determined what is a safe

13:07 voltage in terms of the heat that it's going to Output you know whether the

13:12 cooling design can handle it or whatever else what is a safe voltage in terms of

13:15 the longevity of the chip they have B the chips at their level so remember

13:20 guys a gk104 GPU is exactly the same GPU

13:24 exactly the same thing whether it's in a 660 Ti 670 or 680 so what is the

13:29 difference the difference is that they actually take these gpus and they sort

13:34 them into which ones are validated for 680 670 660 Ti operational speeds as

13:41 well as the number of functional units that are enabled

13:44 okay so NVIDIA is basically going okay look well we already B these for you we

13:49 told you what voltage is safe to run them at from a reliability and a heat

13:52 output perspective and if you want to go ahead and turn them up that's fine but

13:57 the onus is going to be on you to support these things once they're out

14:00 there in the market because this is not what we designed them to be used

14:04 for so who's right actually that's outside

14:09 the scope of this conversation but I would love to get your comments on

14:12 Twitter and have a look at what you guys think about the greenl program and

14:17 whether okay you guys are just like you guys are just not talking about this at

14:22 all okay please please at Linus tweet

14:28 that direction tweet and let me know what do you think of the green light

14:31 program whose side are you on are you with the add-in board Partners who are

14:35 basically going okay well we should be able to take this thing that we bought

14:38 from you NVIDIA we should be able to do whatever we want with it and you should

14:41 warranty it because you know we're your

14:44 partners or do you take the other perspective and go well NVIDIA kind of

14:49 has the right to set a warranty term I mean they're not telling the partners

14:52 they can't do it they're just saying we're not going to warranty it because

14:55 you used it outside of the Opera it's like if you use your fridge um to cool

15:00 your PC you're not going to get a warranty for that it's like a consumer

15:03 TV actually consumer TVs are a great example TBA I believe is the only brand

15:08 that will actually warranty a consumer TV the instant you put it into a

15:13 commercial environment so if you use a Sony TV Samsung TV in your business in

15:19 your restaurant you have TV displayed you you want it up on the wall the

15:22 second you put that in there your warranty is void because it is not valid

15:26 for commercial use so it's not like this is uncommon thing okay we finally have

15:30 some interactions let's have a look at what people say all

15:34 right oh wow we've got a lot of responses now yay way to go guys okay

15:39 Nicholas NVIDIA side um Raz we're not

15:44 talking about that right now Jordan NVIDIA is taking a stand I like it they

15:48 aren't limiting us we still have both options now Jordan something I would

15:51 bring up about your point here is that we actually don't have both options

15:56 every partner that I'm aware of that had a skew that was not warrantable under

16:01 green light has pulled that skew back so

16:05 effectively by pulling the warranty out of them they have removed those options

16:10 from the market whether they're correct about it or not is sort of the debate

16:14 we're having here but we don't really have a choice anymore so there something

16:18 to bear in mind uh NVIDIA is correct NVIDIA NVIDIA

16:22 NVIDIA are in the right here uh Ryan says what's going to happen to the

16:26 existing 660 Ti well for the power Edition from MSI which is the example I

16:29 focused on a lot here um any that were already released um are going to be what

16:36 they are and so they'll perform a little better and then the new ones that are

16:39 redesigned will be under the same name they'll be the same skew and they'll

16:43 have slightly less overclocking potentially you won't be able to crank up the voltage as much um and that will

16:49 be that okay fax says NVIDIA has the right to control their warranty Alex I'm

16:54 with NVIDIA they shouldn't have to warranty something it's not designed for

16:57 so it looks like by and large you guys are both are all very much on

17:04 the green light NVIDIA side which is very interesting because a lot of the

17:08 time consumers and I'm not going to generalize you guys here anything like

17:11 that but a lot of the time consumers are not uh very quick to side with sort of

17:17 the multi-billion dollar uh international company in this case I can

17:22 see it from both perspectives because

17:25 what NVIDIA's effectively done is they've taken something the GPU Partners

17:29 have always taken for granted they've always been able to do this before and

17:33 it's always been one of the ways that they can compete against each other

17:36 because it's not like NVIDIA supports every partner equally I mean they try

17:40 they do their best but it's like you know if you have like 10 children

17:43 there's bound to be one that's your favorite or whatever else um so one of

17:48 the ways that the that the GPU Partners could use to differentiate from each

17:52 other um has has been taken away so I

17:55 can see why particularly some of the partners that relied on this this would

17:59 be really upset it's like um should your kids have an ice cream every Saturday um

18:06 you know what it there's nothing wrong with giving them an ice cream every

18:09 Saturday if they're being good um are

18:13 the kids are the kids wrong when they

18:17 say well we're still being good and the expectation was always that if we were

18:20 really good we were going to get ice cream on Saturday and now you're saying

18:23 no ice cream anymore um I don't know I

18:27 don't know I I don't have I don't have the right answer here but uh okay NVIDIA

18:31 side NVIDIA's in the right Matthew says say my name that's creepy dude creepy

18:36 creepy creepy oh wait you didn't mean it like

18:41 that all right what else we got here so we've got about another 65 results which

18:46 means I can't read all of them but I am going to do a quick skim here once I get

18:50 down to uh whoa we have a lot of a lot

18:53 of tweets here Matthew something something I don't know whatever let's

18:56 just look at them uh

18:59 what possibility change motherboard is it going to be dis NVIDIA is correct

19:03 NVIDIA is correct oh I think I actually went past it there we go on NVIDIA's

19:06 side it's the partners that want to crank up the cards Scotty Scotty you're

19:10 the first one toci side with the partners here I'm with the partners

19:13 because they produce brilliant coolers and it just improves the card's performance you're right it does improve

19:17 the card's performance so here's an interesting take on it this was um I

19:21 forget who brought this up but evga's

19:24 680 was originally permitted to operate

19:28 this way and then now they're not able to ship it

19:31 with evbot anymore so effectively NVIDIA

19:34 has created this environment where SKS that don't really exist anymore okay so

19:40 the power Edition as we know it for 660ti doesn't exist the 680 classified

19:45 with all the overvolting doesn't exist but SKS that no longer exist have been

19:50 used to set overclocking records and set an unrealistic expectation with

19:54 customers did they do this intentionally did they not I actually don't know

19:59 um NVIDIA has the right to limit their warranty I'm on the NVIDIA side I think

20:04 the green light program is great and I'm all for a good customer experience you know what that is that is one huge way

20:09 to uh to look at this is that if NVIDIA is effectively improving the reliability

20:14 in the GeForce experience then how can

20:18 we see it as a bad thing hard to say I mean what if uh what

20:22 if the partners basically said to you guys here we'll give you a BIOS that uh

20:25 you know if you register your card we'll give you a BIOS that unlocks all of the

20:29 overvolting options and you will you'll

20:33 forfeit your warranty would you guys do something like

20:37 that I mean that might be the solution to all of this MSI continues producing

20:41 the power Edition exactly the same way that they always have and then they just

20:45 kind of go okay well you know we're going to ship it like this with this

20:49 BIOS that limits all this stuff so we can maintain our warranty and then we'll

20:53 give customers the option to and I don't know how they' track it to be perfectly

20:57 honest I mean there all hypothetical but we'll give customers the option to

21:00 Forfeit the warranty that way it's not on MSI's head what the customer decides

21:05 to do with that card um and NVIDIA won't have to deal with it either that way

21:10 you're just taking responsibility for your own your own overclocking Adventures which is how it used to be

21:15 actually I mean overclocking used to avoid everyone's warranty back in the

21:19 day so okay does AMD have a similar process

21:24 AMD I think is pretty much they they let the partners do what they want at this

21:27 point I mean you look at something like the devil 13 7990 from powercolor I mean

21:31 that's a very elaborate design that went into that card and uh they

21:37 also yeah they they released it power color managed to release it so I'm with

21:42 NVIDIA not warranting misuse I'll take him side I'm going to look for anyone

21:46 else who's who's on the uh who's on the partner side here I think we only had

21:51 one person side with the partners through all of

21:55 this NVIDIA oh here we go here we go

21:59 male saysi think I am more on the partner side because if they buy the

22:02 cards they should be able to do what to NVIDIA is right to though okay I'm

22:07 unfortunately I don't really understand that tweet but thank you male for um

22:14 participating okay we're going to move on from this topic now I see I have a

22:18 ton more tweets about this but as you guys can clearly see it's pretty much

22:21 impossible for me to read and and and analyze all of them but I just wanted to

22:26 share this whole situation with you get your guys' thoughts on it give you my

22:30 thoughts on it let's move on to the next thing Ultra books

22:35 so my understanding of an Ultra Book was

22:38 that uh aside from MacBook Air which we all know hopefully we all know is not an

22:44 Ultrabook MacBook Air is not an Ultrabook okay so we're clear um because

22:50 Ultrabook requ the word Ultrabook

22:53 requires an Intel license to use it it's

22:58 on a skewby skew basis for those of you who don't know what a skew is a skew

23:02 refers it means stock keeping unit it's like one sort of set specification of a

23:07 particular in this case notebook okay so

23:10 it's on a skewby skew basis there's no charge from Intel to validate a notebook

23:16 the only charge involved is you take your notebook we're going to pretend this is a notebook this is going to be

23:20 my prop for the rest of the night no matter what I'm talking about so you take your notebook you slap a shipping

23:24 label on it you send it to Intel and

23:28 they analyze it they look at it in a bunch of different ways and sort of then

23:32 they either give you the okay yes this is an Ultra Book or they say no go back

23:36 to the drawing board you have to fix this and this and this and it is not an

23:40 Ultrabook yet send it back again when it's done and uh so anyway so apple does

23:44 not participate in that program so MacBook Air in spite of its similarity

23:47 to something like an ASUS Zen book is not an Ultra Book okay so I would love

23:53 to see some tweets here guys about what you think are the characteristics of an

24:00 Ultra Book so we're going to go back to uh we're going to go back to the Twitter

24:04 feed here 36 new interactions of

24:08 course of course there are 36 new interactions you guys are you guys are

24:12 crazy you guys are awesome honestly in the last week I've gained about 4,000

24:18 followers on Twitter which is which is outstanding and I'm sure not all of you

24:22 were just in it for the graphics card giveaway I'm sure most of you were in it

24:27 so you could participate in the live streams and send me messages and all

24:31 that kind of good stuff that's what most of you were up

24:34 to all right let's see anyone

24:37 got Ultra books suck yeah okay Ultra

24:41 books are cool however all right here we go here we go so let's get into what

24:44 people think of this whole Ultrabook thing Zack says Ultrabooks are cool but

24:49 I would much rather get a more substantial customizable laptop my response to Zach is this is the

24:53 direction things are heading man whether we like it or not Apple has set this

24:58 trend with MacBook Pro MacBook and

25:01 MacBook Air that that's the Direction notebooks are going I me look at

25:04 something like the razor blade if that's not like an apple aluminum unibody sort

25:10 of inspired design then I don't know what is you look at ASUS Zenbook if

25:14 that's not a MacBook Air inspired design then I don't know what is but anyway

25:19 moving right along so Joseph thin you're right thin is part of

25:22 it um Ultra books are overpriced Slim in SSD ah Nicholas okay so slim yes SSD not

25:30 necessarily but I'll get into that in more detail later Joel says good quality

25:35 good quality can be Quantified in a lot of different ways um so again don't

25:40 worry guys I'm going to talk about this I'm going to talk about this okay High battery life says Jordan fast small and

25:45 light says Derek uh Ultrabooks are Intel laptops that are thin and light and good

25:49 battery life Joe I love your picture this is the second time I've seen you on

25:53 the Twitter feed I I still need to know if that's actually you though because

25:57 that's that's amazing that burger is well it's literally the size of a man's

26:02 head um okay battery life and thinness Intel I series CPU SSD integrated

26:07 Graphics Ultra books suck not enough power okay Dom we're sorry uh 60 new

26:12 interactions okay okay I'm just going to take these 60 if you guys do want to

26:16 participate in the whole like Twitter thing I need you guys to like be on the

26:20 ball on your tweets because I can only read so many of them slim and Powerful

26:24 battery life size and weight okay I'm I'm looking for a few different things

26:27 here guys that I'm not see yet because there's way more to Ultra Book than I

26:31 actually understood myself but the uh we had one of Intel's field guys in today

26:36 and he explained all the different aspects of things that um Austin Austin

26:42 you can watch the live stream after on the YouTube channel so I can't I can't I

26:47 can't redo the whole thing just for you Ultra books are nice I wouldn't buy one

26:50 so yeah he explained all the different stuff that goes into it none of you are getting it which is uh which is awesome

26:55 because I feel a little bit better about me not knowing what an Ultra Book was about okay so number one then then then

27:02 form factor form factor is huge so depending on the screen size the

27:06 diagonal screen size Intel has different specs for how thick an Ultrabook is

27:11 allowed to be to still be an Ultrabook okay so if you have a bigger screen size

27:16 you're allowed a little bit more thickness and it can still be an Ultrabook okay battery life honestly

27:22 Intel isn't too stringent on battery life the requirement is 5 hours and

27:27 that's that means five hours of like real five hours not like five hours of

27:31 like you put it in hibernate and you try not to like go too close to it and it'll

27:36 last for five hours no five hours with Wi-Fi with using the computer of actual

27:41 General usage and Intel validates this stuff okay however the sort of the

27:45 recommended what we're seeing more commonly is closer to around eight hours

27:49 which is fantastic I mean eight hours is long enough that you can realistically

27:53 use the computer in sort of an all day type environment as long as you're

27:57 putting it to sleep whenever you're not using it and then waking up when you are

28:00 using it aha which leads us to another spec so a lot of you suggested that an

28:05 SSD is a necessary part of the Ultrabook

28:09 spec it is not an SSD is a great way to

28:14 meet the Ultrabook spec because it'll mean that you can have a thinner form

28:17 factor if you're using like an M SATA SSD it'll mean that your power

28:21 consumption will be really low it'll run really cool um it will also enable fast

28:27 wake from sleep times and overall Snappy

28:30 performance so Intel has a spec that says it can take no longer than seven

28:36 seconds for an Ultrabook to wake from sleep now when uh his name is Ben we're

28:40 going to have a couple episodes on the ncixcom channel featuring him in the

28:43 next uh next week or two um so Ben

28:47 pointed out to me that with an SSD an Ultra Book can typically and oh yeah

28:52 boot boot times are uh are probably looked at as well although it wasn't on

28:55 the list of things that are and analyzed so the UEFI BIOS went very quickly the

29:00 first time we booted it up and it booted up extremely quickly then when we put it

29:04 to sleep and opened it up it took less than two steambow less than two seconds

29:08 to be fully functional when it was coming up from sleep so an SSD enables

29:12 that however an SSD isn't the only way to do it you are allowed as a laptop

29:18 manufacturer to implement a hybrid solution such as a hard drive with an

29:22 SSD cache the SSD cache has to be at least 16 gigs and with that hybrid

29:28 solution you can honestly with the hard

29:31 drive you would just wouldn't be able to meet the spec Intel doesn't explicitly

29:34 say you can't use a plane hard drive but what they do say is you have to adhere

29:38 to this performance standard which rules out hard drives so with a hybrid drive

29:42 you can meet that spec while not having the add extra expense of going with a

29:48 straight SSD solution so something like a momentus XT or a separate 16 gig on an

29:52 MSA with a separate mechanical hard drive running in the Shell uh these are

29:56 solutions that the partners can Implement so okay so there's a

30:00 performance aspect um it has to use a third generation core I3 I5 or i7

30:05 processor I you know personally I wouldn't mind if they locked it down to

30:08 just i5s and i7s I mean um at the point where you're looking at low power i3s

30:13 they're not um they're not going to deliver that that snappiness that

30:16 performance um connectivity an Ultrabook

30:21 must have a highspeed connectivity Now

30:24 Intel doesn't specify what that is but in Practical terms it must have a USB 3

30:29 port and it or or sorry or it must have

30:32 a Thunderbolt port or both it has to have at least one though uh one of the

30:37 other things with respect to connectivity is that I believe business

30:40 class Ultrabooks must have an Ethernet port they can't rely solely on Wi-Fi now

30:46 all Ultrabooks do have to have Wi-Fi which makes sense because none of them

30:49 really have Optical drives and if you had no Wi-Fi and this Ultrabook this

30:53 like portable device that actually you have to plug in every time you use it

30:56 that would be stupid but um that's an aside at this point moving along to some

31:01 of the other things Ultrabooks must have right they must have Intel's identity

31:07 protection technology and they must have

31:10 Intel's anti- theft technology now we did a really cool Tech tips um about

31:15 Intel anti- theft technology and I'm going to give you guys uh I'm actually

31:20 going to give those of you who are who are subscribed to uh who not subscribed

31:24 see I'm so used to being like a YouTuber those of you you who are following me on

31:29 Twitter I am going to explain one of the

31:33 most cryptic things that I have ever uploaded to the internet ever today so

31:39 this was an image that I that I uploaded today this is the Crazy Russian for

31:43 those of you who asked if that's slick of course it isn't slick it's the Russian look how Russian he looks um so

31:49 that's him drawing an evil mustache on

31:52 yours truly so the episode we shot today was really cool because we uh we had me

31:58 steal Ben's Ultra Book steal I mean I didn't keep it you know although maybe I

32:04 should have actually I couldn't have because I stole it I went to a nearby

32:08 Starbucks where I could get on the Wi-Fi and then I gave him a call and we did

32:12 kind of like a fake thing like it was kind of fun we were like Ben I stole your Ultra Book and I going to log into

32:17 your Facebook and I'm G to message your grandmother and um and so Ben was like

32:22 well no lonus I'm going to use my anti- theft technology which is built into the

32:26 ultra book at a pre-bio level so there's

32:31 like there's like hardware and then there's like like bare metal firmware

32:37 then there's BIOS which is programmable you can erase and and reflash it then

32:41 there's your OS okay so it's built in at this level um and what he was able to do

32:46 and the subscription to mcafe service I think cost like 60 bucks a year or

32:49 something like that what he was able to do was he was able to tell his Ultra

32:52 Book you can tell it a couple things you can tell it if you go too long without

32:56 an internet connection shut off and lock

33:00 you can also tell it next time you have network connectivity shut off lock um

33:06 you can't get around this reformatting the OS will not help reflashing the BIOS

33:13 will not help once it's locked so once he locked it and I was sitting there I

33:17 was able to show the screen to the camera and go okay there's a message

33:20 from Ben hi this says Ben please return my laptop and you cannot boot The

33:24 Notebook no matter what you do which is very very cool so that is required as

33:29 part of the Ultrabook spec every Ultra Book must have that feature so if you

33:32 pay for the service then you'll be able to uh we were even able to see where the

33:36 Ultrabook was within about a couple block radius just using uh just using

33:41 the IP address that it was that it uh that was registered to it when it was uh

33:44 when it was on the Wi-Fi so very very very cool stuff I'm just going to see if

33:49 there's anything else that I'm forgetting about the whole Ultrabook

33:52 concept uh I don't think so I can see if there's any more any more tweets about

33:56 Ultrabook and if of course there's probably like 1

34:00 billion um okay change the Ultrabook

34:04 topic okay I'm sorry I'm sorry the Ultrabook topic isn't interesting for

34:09 you uh something about gangdam style

34:12 okay we're not talking about that okay you guys aren't interested in Ultrabook

34:15 fine be like that fine fine we'll move on to a new topic okay so my next

34:19 actually you know what Let's do let's do a short Q&A and then I'll move on to uh

34:23 then I'll move on to my next topic so I'm just going to look for some of the

34:27 stuff Dom why do retail shops say one or

34:31 two gig graphics and not the specs of the card because retail shops you know

34:35 big box retail guys who rely on the

34:38 ignorance of their customers to make additional margin don't want to tell you

34:43 any spec that will be helpful because from their perspective like okay this is

34:49 a 2 gig graphics card so from their

34:52 perspective would they rather sell you so this this costs like 300 bucks okay

34:56 so would they rather convince you that the Cheapo graphics card that they have

35:01 you know like let's say a GT 640 or something that they want to charge 150

35:06 bucks for would they rather convince you that that two gig card is as good as any

35:11 other two gig card absolutely and because the customers walking into these

35:16 places don't have the knowledge and the experience to know that the GPU the

35:21 memory bus the amount of memory the speed of the memory the type of the

35:25 memory all of these things are way

35:28 way more important than the amount of memory on a video card in fact for any

35:33 lowend to mid-range card the amount of memory is actually almost totally

35:38 meaningless because it doesn't have the GPU horsepower to back up that memory

35:43 anyway so with that 2 gig frame I mean okay you could take a gt640 you could

35:47 put a 4 gig frame buffer on it there's no reason you couldn't do

35:51 it that card could potentially hold

35:55 enough texture data in its frame buffer to power like a six monitor gaming setup

36:02 but that GPU would only be able to run that setup at one frame per second so

36:06 who cares can have all the memory it wants it's totally irrelevant because it

36:10 will be bottlenecked by the GPU power long before the memory amount even

36:14 matters 640 could be a 512 Meg card it wouldn't even matter um and the same

36:18 thing goes for even high-end cards as well so something like a 6 60 TI unless

36:24 you're running surround you don't need more than two gigs um if you are running

36:28 surround all of a sudden more memory starts to matter because it has the GPU

36:32 horsepower to back it up so it all comes down to resolution as well as how

36:36 demanding the textures of the game are if you're running high-r texture packs

36:39 now we're talking about a completely different thing where memory could be the difference between chugging along at

36:44 10 FPS because it has to swap out to the system memory all the time and running

36:48 at a smooth 30 40 FPS so there hopefully

36:51 that addresses the topic of GPU memory

36:55 once and for all let's go ahead and have

36:58 a look at some of the newer tweets that came in once 81 81 tweets okay so let's

37:04 have a look at some of the people who tweeted sort of first here so these are

37:07 two minutes does that mean you could also hack into the anti thefting to lock

37:10 up someone's computer I guess in theory I don't know that that's actually been done

37:14 yet um Alex is in a good mood cool story

37:18 Alex uh building a webcam Ultra

37:21 Book an Ultra Book with AMD's apus would

37:24 be great for portable gaming fantastic Point Alex Wagner so I don't know if you

37:29 guys saw my episode about AMD's or rather two episodes on my NCIX Tech tips

37:33 Channel about AMD's apus so what we discovered is that as a CPU with

37:38 dedicated graphics yeah um it's semi-competitive

37:43 with core I3 like it does okay okay it does okay but it's not winning any

37:46 awards however if you're using the onboard Graphics it wipes the floor with

37:52 not only a core I3 but a core i5 core i7 doesn't matter if you talk onboard

37:57 graphics versus onboard Graphics Apu

38:00 destroys Intel so uh an Ultra Book with

38:03 APU Graphics would actually be fantastic for Ultra portable gaming I am super

38:06 excited though to see what Intel's Haswell brings to the table because

38:10 Haswell is going to be very power efficient and they are going to be

38:14 dramatically boosting up the performance of the

38:19 GPU um Derek says thank you for saying

38:22 my name you're welcome again Derek uh David says i' prefer GPS me too

38:29 but it costs more to implement so what do you want me to say uh I'm sure that

38:33 they could do it with GPS it's just that's not the requirement

38:36 yet um Troy line is how can I stop my Galaxy

38:41 S from discharging when I charging it and using it could I buy a different

38:45 battery please Troy the only thing I can tell you is uh get maybe a higher

38:49 powerered USB port if that's what you're charging it off of um there are some

38:52 motherboards that have like superpowered like 3x powered USB ports that'll charge

38:56 things faster um just make sure you don't totally

38:59 exceed the amount of current that's uh supposed to be used to charge

39:03 that um join lus fan club what is this

39:08 lus fan club that is a bizarre thing sir

39:12 um I will create a Facebook profile at some point but um yeah I don't I don't

39:17 necessarily think I need a fan club per se that's an awesome security feature

39:22 what are your thoughts on sleekbook I haven't heard of sleekbook

39:25 unfortunately uh what is the

39:28 what you see improved what do you think Kyle what's your favorite junk food my

39:33 favorite junk food um Lindor chocolates

39:38 I love Lindor chocolates I'm a total girl when it comes to Lindor chocolates

39:42 rephrase says did you know that raising a baby costs $80,000 okay I mean that's

39:47 sort of an arbitrary number especially because anyone starting raising a baby

39:51 now will still be raising a baby 18 years from now which means that those

39:55 numbers will be totally irrelevant because of inflation and whatever else

39:58 but yeah that's cool okay uh Michael VA

40:03 or PLS PLS for sure so PLS is actually closer in terms of the technology to IPS

40:08 than it is to a PVA or MVA however I was

40:12 just made aware today of a new VA it's

40:16 going to be called ha vaa or something like that you know what I'm going to

40:20 have to look this up but uh google.ca

40:25 haava panel no no that might not be it

40:29 uh Ben Q

40:33 Ava hva shoot I'm I'm I'm boned I can't

40:37 figure it out so so BenQ has a new monitor coming that's using a new panel

40:41 type that is not a PLS it's not an IPS

40:45 but it's similar in technology and they're super excited it's going to have

40:49 100% srgb color gamut it's going to have

40:53 a 178° viewing angle so the spec looks

40:56 very similar to can be achieved with PLS but right now based on what's actually

41:00 available at this moment I'm a huge PLS guy I love

41:06 PLS um Colin don't worry nothing happens to your warranty on 660ti Plat power

41:11 Edition nothing happens MSI will still deal with

41:15 it okay when can we expect something something what do you think of okay ye

41:22 wants to know what do you think of the future of LGA 2011 after Ivy bridg will

41:26 a new socket be introduced for Haswell e right now I don't think anyone knows for

41:30 those of you who don't have the context for this question um LGA 2011 is now two

41:36 generations behind LGA 1155 in terms of

41:40 the CPU architecture it is still using Sandy bridge- e for I don't know

41:45 Enthusiast workstation whatever e stands for so Sandy Bridge has been wait hold

41:50 on Sandy Bridge no sorry it's one generation behind and once Haswell

41:54 Launches on LGA 1155 it will be two Generations behind so by the time it

41:59 gets a refresh it'll be two behind so what does that mean so it means that in

42:02 terms of instruction per clock it is behind so single threaded performance is

42:07 actually lower on LGA 2011 than it is on 1155 in spite of 2011 being the

42:12 Enthusiast platform

42:16 okay are enthusiasts happy about this I don't know uh personally as a 2011 user

42:21 I wish I had an IV Bridge uh processor to drop in my system I wish that I you

42:26 know had Haswell e to go into my system

42:29 so that's the disadvantage of 2011 is we seem to be getting a bit of a short

42:33 straw in terms of upgrades um however the advantage of

42:38 2011 is that it's getting a much more advanced so much more robust overall

42:43 architecture so 2011 when Ivy Bridge

42:47 gets its refresh so right now okay so we had Sandy bridge and Sandy Bridge e LGA

42:52 2011 LGA 1155 then we got Ivy bridge

42:56 then then on 1155 this is 1155 we're going to get Haswell so Intel will have

43:01 gone through two architectural changes then we're going to get Ivy Bridge e

43:06 which will be sort of caught up but still a generation behind however LGA

43:10 1155 will not have more than four cores Intel's already said this they won't get

43:14 more than four cores 2011 already has six cores if you're like me you render a

43:19 lot of video six cores there's actually more important than a few more

43:22 instructions per clock okay so once we get once we get

43:27 Ivy Bridge e we're going to get anywhere from 10 to 12 cores and these will be

43:32 high performance cores because there's no need to have a GPU Core built in as

43:36 for what happens in the future I hope we'll get Haswell but honestly I kind of

43:41 doubt it however looking back at LGA 1366 so remember 1366 lasted

43:49 throughout part of 775 you know 775 was still there on the

43:53 low end when 1366 was a premium platform lasted through

43:57 1156 and was still relevant once we moved to 1155 if I recall correctly

44:03 although I could be getting that mix either way 1366 lasted for multiple

44:06 mainstream sockets and there's no reason to believe that LGA 2011 won't last

44:10 through multiple mainstream sockets it's got all those pins um worst case

44:14 scenario they might do a chipset refresh or something like that but they probably

44:17 won't change the socket and um I guess basically I don't really

44:22 know Nick says can I have a shout out

44:25 please okay Nick you are

44:29 shouted um Raz wants to know can you please tell me what should be the

44:32 maximum temperature for overclocking a video card Raz there isn't really a maximum temperature it depends on the

44:36 card so unfortunately it's one of those questions that I know you've tweeted

44:40 this at me a few times but I don't really have an answer most modern cards

44:44 are good up to 90 95 degrees um and they're actually designed to run like

44:48 that however you can see what Intel and AMD have been doing with the last couple

44:51 Generations improving the power efficiency and improving the

44:54 temperatures that they're probably not trying to have their gpus run so hot

44:59 anymore thank you Matt I'm doing well and I hope you are doing well as well ah

45:04 yes air great question this is one of the other topics that I wanted to launch

45:08 into so we're going to go ahead and do that now why is quad SLI a terrible idea

45:15 for a gaming machine and I should clarify oops amir's question is actually

45:20 not as terrible so he wants to know would you recommend two GTX 690s or four

45:24 GTX 680s for extreme benchmarking easy

45:27 answer for GTX 680s the reason for that is they overclock better than 690s

45:31 although that's not as true anymore so you'd have to find ones that overvolt

45:36 um along the lines of that green light topic we were talking about

45:40 earlier um and just the fact that in terms of thermals you will be less

45:45 limited because you can use better cooling on them by having them

45:48 separated now forget extreme benchmarking I have a lot of people ask

45:53 me about anything beyond two-way SLI so

45:56 three-way SLI four-way SLI they'll say hey is this a good deal good idea should

46:01 I get uh should I get dual 690s should I

46:04 get uh should I get quad 680s or triple

46:07 680s or what whatever else okay so few things so number one power consumption

46:12 is going to go through the roof number two the actual effici like the actual

46:18 performance you gain I did a great video about this the actual performance you

46:22 gain from three-way SLI oh shoot there

46:25 we go 3-way SLI Linus let's try

46:29 searching for that here so the actual performance you gain from 3way SLI from

46:33 2way SLI is actually very small you guys should check out this video that I did a

46:37 while back so this was GTX 690 versus

46:40 3-way 670 and yeah you should definitely

46:44 check that out it's it's kind of an analysis of the scaling of these gpus as

46:47 well you don't get much in terms of performance now if you go okay lonus I

46:53 don't care money is no object for me it doesn't matter I am willing to blow this

46:56 money on these gpus I want to have a great gaming experience I want the

47:00 maximum FPS to which I would reply wrong

47:03 you're wrong that's not what you want you do not just want maximum FPS there

47:08 is more to gaming there is more to a high-end system than throwing more

47:12 graphics cards into it so I see people

47:16 um and dual 690s I guess is less ridiculous than triple and quadruple

47:21 cards for this reason we've only got seven expansions

47:26 slot on even your highest end board

47:30 something like an ASRock extreme 11 uh where they actually manage to implement

47:34 Seven slots on a 2011 board that's your best case scenario if you install three

47:41 graphics cards never mind four where there'll be absolutely no slots left if

47:44 you install three graphics cards on most

47:47 motherboards you'll have no slots left over or you'll have like a PCI slot or

47:51 something stupid due to the way that they do the slot layouts if you have

47:54 four graphics cards you will have none so let's assume you have n where's your

47:58 sound card where is your raid card where

48:03 is your anything your HDMI capture card for

48:07 streaming your gaming or your G for casting or whatever else most

48:11 importantly where is your sound card anyone who thinks that sound is not an

48:17 important aspect of gaming and is willing to compromise on the sound

48:22 experience use their onboard sound instead

48:27 of or is willing to use that for the

48:31 pleasure of putting in another graphics card to get another 10% 15% maybe 20%

48:36 performance Improvement is just wrong you're wrong because a huge part of a

48:41 cinematic experience whether it's movies or games a huge part of your immersion

48:46 is the sound experience why do you enjoy the movie theater why did you I mean

48:51 let's okay not even today where we've got digital production and great screens

48:55 in most movie theaters let's go back to years ago when most movie theaters had

48:59 like little pops and circles and sort of artifacts all over the screen were you

49:03 going there to see the movie big yes were you going there to see the movie on

49:08 like this pristine crystal clear screen no you were going there to get

49:13 absolutely rocked by their 20.2 surround system with huge

49:19 subwoofers because it makes for a more IM immersive experience there is more to

49:24 life than more graphics cards and more Gamers need to realize this I've

49:28 actually made a point of retweeting some of the tweets people have sent me lonus

49:32 you talked me into buying a sound card holy crap I can't believe I ever

49:37 listened to those people who said that a sound card doesn't make a difference get

49:41 a real sound card get a proper headset

49:44 get proper speakers you will thank me do

49:47 not buy more graphics cards two graphics cards is pretty much enough here's

49:52 another reason so people might respond to me lonus I need more graphics cards

49:56 because I'm going to run six monitors or I'm going to run I'm going to run three

50:01 super high resolution displays wrong again the reason for that is that in SLI

50:06 the graphics cards actually don't build

50:09 on each other's memory if you have two 2 gig graphics cards you have two gigs of

50:13 vram effectively if you have two 3 gig graphics cards you have three

50:20 gigs of Graphics memory that is actually usable by your system if you have four 3

50:26 gig graphics cards I know I'm emphasizing this a lot you have 3 gigs

50:30 of address Graphics memory which means that by the time you got to a resolution

50:35 that would benefit from all these additional graphics cards in any meaningful way you're going to run out

50:39 of vram oh which brings me back to actually 680 quad SLI versus 690 SLI so

50:45 that's right that's why 69 I forgot right so 680 quad SLI or triple SLI is

50:50 terrible because you lose all of your expandability for your system fantastic

50:55 and then quad SLI with 690s is terrible

50:59 because you have a 2 gig frame buffer way to go with your 2 gig frame buffer

51:03 which is not useful for anything higher than about 2560 x600 single display

51:08 you're not going to be using a 2 gig frame buffer to get an optimal

51:11 experience on Triple displays you'd probably be better off going with like

51:16 dual 67 all right like dual 660 Ti 3

51:19 gigs or something like that actually no that's probably not fair I mean dual

51:23 6804 gigs or something along those lines May actually be a better solution than

51:28 290s because of the limited vrm so there

51:32 that's my lecture on trip SLI quad SLI

51:35 and all those kinds of solutions that for 99.9% of people who aren't trying to

51:41 do what whoopsy daisies where's my uh

51:44 where's my Twitter there we go who aren't trying to do what Air's talking about where you're just trying to set a

51:48 benchmark record it doesn't make sense all right so now that I've done

51:53 another topic why don't we do a little bit more uh why don't we do a little bit

51:57 more conversation sidarth I actually don't know of a mechanical keyboard with

52:01 blue or brown switches that has a backl I think uh ducky might have something

52:05 but it's nothing that I've uh that I've ever actually used so I'm sorry I got

52:09 nothing I got

52:17 nothing H this is funny uh Alex great

52:21 suggestion actually this is planned Alex writes in can you do a giveaway where we

52:26 have to make a nerd rage video and you judge them and pick the best one I

52:29 haven't announced this in any way so this live stream will be the first time

52:32 anyone's hearing about this but Corsair is actually sponsoring a contest I'm

52:36 going to have five k90 keyboards so

52:40 these are like 100 plus dollar mechanical keyboards backlights macros

52:44 the whole works cherry red switches I'm

52:47 going to have five of them to give away to the five best nerd rage videos

52:51 however don't start working on your video now I can't emphasize this enough

52:56 I'm going to have rules and requirements

52:59 there have been fantastic videos that have been submitted for my video

53:03 response contest in the past that have been disqualified because they didn't

53:07 listen to the requirements okay you're going to have to pay special close

53:11 attention to what will be the judging requirements and I don't want to hear

53:14 any complaining if you don't win because you didn't participate correctly however

53:19 that giveaway is coming probably I'll have a video up sometime in the next

53:23 couple weeks so that's uh that's very exciting um um CW any faults about the

53:29 Nexus 7 Nexus 7 is a fantastic value have you guys heard about the price drop

53:32 that's coming it's going to be $199 for the 16 gig and they're introducing a 32

53:37 gig holy crap like it makes it like the best value ever it has a teger 3

53:41 processor which is actually fast on like well Egra 2 was not that fast GPU wise

53:46 it was pretty good but um CPU wise honestly my Galaxy Tab 10.1 is kind of

53:52 not not generating a great user experience for me these days

53:57 um thank you Caleb his his name was big

54:02 something what else we got here Dale I

54:06 get a lot of questions about this what power supply would you recommend this is

54:09 sort of the general question so I'm going to answer Dale's specific question

54:12 when I'm sing GTX 660 Ti I have three

54:15 200 MIM fans and maybe of course our h100 or 150 Dale you haven't given me

54:20 nearly enough information if I'd read your entire tweet before I started

54:23 reading it out loud I probably wouldn't have responded to this question because

54:27 the information you're giving me is totally useless I know you have two 660

54:30 Ti which means you need at least a 700 750 wat power supply however you haven't

54:35 told me what CPU you have you haven't told me um well anything else like are

54:41 you running 10 hard drives in here are you going to have a whole bunch of different powered peripherals running

54:45 off the back of the USB are you going to have are you going to be overclocking um

54:50 fans consume like nothing people who tell me like who ask me what power

54:54 supply do I need and they tell me all the fans they're running in their system I'm like all those fans maybe like two

55:00 Watts out of your power supply totally irrelevant totally doesn't matter um

55:03 same thing with a course h100 um it doesn't really consume a significant

55:08 amount of power so shout out to sou America I almost said South Africa shout

55:13 out to that too but you know um hesu says why do people mistake

55:19 earphones for headphones in vice versa I just wanted to get that point out there

55:22 because it's annoying okay hu 27 2 new

55:26 interactions you guys are killing me here you know what I'm going to actually

55:31 I'm going to launch into a new a new topic here because 272 interactions is a

55:36 fantastic point so we are going to run through the math of why I cannot reply

55:40 to every Twitter message I get since I started running the contest I have

55:45 received more than 1,000 Twitter messages per day Twitter

55:50 actually has a hard limit of 1,000 tweets that I can send out per day so

55:56 that means if I sat there and typed at my computer and literally replied to a

56:00 thousand messages I would actually get

56:04 my account like I've run into it a few times in the last week they will just

56:07 say you have reached your Tweet limit you cannot tweet

56:10 anymore okay aside from that they split

56:14 up that thousand tweet limit into time

56:17 chunks throughout the day so you can only do like a 100 at a time and you

56:20 have to spread it out through the day so I don't even have the option of like

56:23 lying in bed with my laptop and typing like this or sitting down and like

56:27 hammering them away and trying to get caught up because Twitter is going to

56:30 get after me after I do 100 tweets or so and say hey oh no it's okay wait a few

56:34 hours and then you can tweet some more so um for those of you who are who

56:39 are upset that I wasn't able to reply to you or you're tweeting me and I'm not

56:43 responding to you you know what I'm going to do my best that's all I can do

56:46 when I have some time I'm going to fire up my phone I'm going to fire up my laptop I'm going to I'm going to hammer

56:51 out some tweets um but beyond that there's just nothing I can do the sheer

56:55 volume of messages I reive like guys think about this okay go and read a

57:00 tweet and then like reply to it and then

57:04 yourself now times a thousand every day

57:07 I have a full-time job I have these videos I have a live stream when I do a

57:11 live stream it's going to completely wipe out my place where I was and it's

57:16 going to absolutely destroy any progress I could have possibly made at catching

57:21 up because in this live stream alone I've already received well over 600

57:25 tweets so so I'm sorry guys I do my best

57:28 it's all I can do it is not mathematically possible for me to reply

57:31 to the tweets and that doesn't even get into the point that once I reply to a

57:35 tweet that person usually tweets me back which means that what was a thousand

57:39 tweets once I reply to them is probably going to turn into more like 1500 once I

57:43 have to reply a second time and then maybe even let's say half of those

57:47 people again reply to me again so now every thousand tweets is actually

57:50 probably more like 1,700 tweets by the time I'm actually done addressing the

57:54 person's question so this this is why I think I need a forum this is why I think

57:58 I need a way for you guys to interact with each other and not just me because

58:02 I will die um speaking of which Twitter I mean if you guys want to sort of find

58:07 anything at Linus Tech and throw in your own answers that would be great that

58:11 would actually be immensely helpful for me because I can't reply to them all on

58:14 my own all right what else we got here tiny

58:19 the boss says hey lonus how come you haven't posted a pick of your kid sitting in front of a PC yet I actually

58:23 have taken one but uh you're right I haven't posted one yet I'll see if I can

58:28 find it um I'm not sure if I know where it is because my my wife keeps track of

58:31 all the baby pictures and all that um new says what do you think of the GTX

58:35 660 because I'm trying to build a gaming machine that isn't that expensive GTX

58:38 660 is a good option so is 7870 you should look into both of those uh Nick

58:42 says I saw the ASUS VG to you know what I'm not going to read the tweets I'm

58:46 just going to do this why am I doing this um editing looks great What program

58:50 does diesel use diesel uses Adobe CS6 so

58:54 everything you saw done previously by myself or by Slick was done using Vegas

59:00 um movie studio or whatever the cheap $100 option is cu I'm super cheap um so

59:05 he's using a real editing software that he he brought his own copy of and uh

59:10 that is one of the reasons that the NC Tech tips episodes have had a higher

59:14 standard of quality he's Al he also knows how to use After Effects which is

59:17 like voodoo magic to me so Phil great

59:22 question there's really that nothing that's special about a 3960x compared to

59:26 a 3930k uh it used to be that the extreme Edition was somewhat

59:31 justifiable uh because it was unlocked so you could break benchmarking records

59:36 and if you like really wanted sort of the the epen of having an extreme

59:40 Edition then that was cool but a 3930k has a little bit less cach a little bit

59:45 lower stock clock speed and other than that it actually overclocks exactly the

59:49 same so we're talking performance within like 1% 2% of each other once you

59:54 overclock them both to the max so um I've never recommended a 3960x to anyone

60:00 uh people do buy them I mean people buy them it's sort of it's cool um yeah I

60:06 mean go for it you want to be extreme buy an extreme Edition but um yeah it's

60:10 not something that I've ever really recommended uh can you talk about micro

60:16 stuttering you know what I can't talk about micro stuttering I don't see

60:19 it um micro stuttering is one of those things that bothers some people a lot

60:24 more than it bothers other people it's like motion motion blur drives me nuts

60:28 on monitors lots of people can't see it at all

60:32 so um Eric if I had to would I rather

60:35 fight one horse sized duck or a hundred

60:38 duck-sized

60:44 horses I think I could take the horses because I'm a lot taller than them and

60:48 if they're the size of a duck I mean all they'd really be able to do is kick me

60:52 in the ankles I've actually been kicked by a horse before and before the obvious

60:56 joke that explains a lot table slapping you know that's a

61:01 knee slapping joke right there um before you make that joke it was a baby horse

61:05 well not a baby she was a couple months old but um my my family we lived in The

61:09 Boondocks and we had we had ostriches and pigs and horses and all kinds of

61:13 crazy stuff but uh we had a baby horse so so one of our horses we uh we bred

61:17 her and she her baby's name was Trixie and um Trixie and I had a little

61:21 disagreement once about whether she was going to walk with me or whether she was

61:25 was not going to walk with me and she was going to go off on her and do her own thing so I gave her the I gave her

61:31 the business if you guys have horses you know you give them a little you pull

61:34 down on their on their halter you kind of go look no you get them to bring

61:37 their head down the head down is a submissive posture for a horse so you're

61:42 forcing them a little bit okay no look you're going to be submissive doesn't matter what you think about this so when

61:46 they put their heads up you know rear up that's that's aggressive um okay

61:51 so she surprised me and she pulled away

61:54 really quickly and then she started doing that whole like Bronco

61:58 like up and down and up and down thing and she was you know going up on her

62:01 front legs and kicking her back legs out behind her and she actually nailed me

62:05 right in the head so um she got me right

62:08 about here and there's I'm lucky I'm lucky there's no scar because it did

62:12 bleed she got me pretty good I actually this is one of the uh two times in my

62:18 life that I have that I have seen my entire Vision just like I'm going to

62:24 simulate it I've seen my Vision just start to okay wow look this thing

62:29 whatever it starts to go wow this thing gets light even if I cover it completely

62:33 okay whatever that's the only two times in my life that my vision has actually

62:37 gone okay come on focus focus focus you

62:41 got this that my there we go that my vision has gone

62:47 black so one of them was when I had blood drawn from me when I was super

62:51 super sick and I just about passed out on top of the nurse and um

62:56 accidentally of course and then the other time was when I got kicked by this

62:59 horse so what happened was I was like I was standing on my feet she kicked me in

63:03 the head I blacked out and then I came

63:06 to in time to hit the ground and luckily

63:10 I wasn't hurt but man was I ever mad so

63:14 uh basically she got the old you know grabbed her again no pull down gave her

63:19 the old smack on smack on the butt no you're not allowed to do that she seemed

63:23 sort of genuinely sorry about it but you can never tell with horses they're a uh

63:27 they're a crafty Bunch um so yeah that's

63:30 uh that's that's my story about fighting horses and the time that I got uh got

63:35 kicked in the head by a horse uh Lyndon someone's already asked

63:39 that sorry dude uh they're they're lower grade panels so they're cheaper there

63:43 you go and a the suggestions to use uh here

63:48 the suggestions to use Facebook instead of Twitter in order to get around the

63:51 limit it's like guys the point is I can't reply to a thousand plus messages

63:56 a day not so much just the physical impossibility of it but the fact that I

64:00 just can't do it um it's just not it's just not not not

64:05 possible um Christian I have a question why will the number pad on my Razor Naga

64:09 not work uh there's a switch on the bottom Christian in all likelihood you

64:12 have it switched to the wrong thing so that would be my guess I could be wrong though um I mean

64:18 there's always the crazy thought you could contact Razer and see if they have any thoughts about it it's possible it's

64:22 defective so they'd be the best ones to talk to about something like that

64:27 uh noua wants to know what would I recommend isus Sabertooth z77 or the new

64:32 motherboard from MSI the Big Bang Empower um honestly either of them are

64:36 great options so ASUS backs it up with a 5-year warranty which is cool awesome

64:41 and then MSI has a three-year warranty but they're hand testing every single

64:45 board in an overclocked scenario so I

64:48 don't know you decide which of those two things is more important to you and then

64:51 like go for it they're both absolutely fantastic options

64:57 all

65:02 right Brandon there we go fantastic question

65:07 when does a motherboard really affect

65:10 with an a Brandon really affect

65:13 performance uh the answer is sort of complicated so there's a lot of ways

65:17 that a motherboard can affect performance so in terms of the features

65:22 that it delivers so uh ausis implementation of USB 3 for example as

65:28 far as I can tell is superior to what I've seen from other guys you'll get

65:32 faster performance regardless of you know which here I'm going to see if I've

65:36 got one in my pocket you know regardless of which usb3 device you're using or

65:40 whatever the case may be you will get better performance uh from an ASUS

65:45 chipset uh or from an ASUS board using their as media chipset and their um uasp

65:51 or their Turbo Modes so that's one of the ways a motherboard can affect

65:55 performance um it can affect performance in terms of just what features it has

65:58 enabled so if you want to run dual Graphics SLI Crossfire you better get a

66:04 motherboard that supports it otherwise you won't get that performance because

66:08 you can't install those things so there's that it can affect overclocking

66:13 which means like if you have a better power delivery system it runs cooler uh

66:17 you're going to get slightly better overclocking results um BIOS

66:21 optimization is another way that the motherboard can affect performance and

66:24 overclocking so um the better they

66:27 program the BIOS the better the power delivery is the better it is however

66:31 it's not the way it used to be it used to be back in the socket 478 days back

66:37 in the socket a days that you could actually like run gaming benchmarks on

66:41 one motherboard versus another motherboard and you might see a 10% spread in terms of performance which

66:47 these days totally unheard of it doesn't happen anymore um at at the same speed

66:51 at the same frequency that's what I'm talking about and that was because of

66:55 the way that the manufacturers were um

66:59 designing the board I mean they were they were doing so much more work at the

67:03 BIOS level because they had to optimize for the communication from the FSB

67:08 between the over the FSB between the CPU and the chipset and then from the

67:11 chipset to everything else including the RAM the second that the integrated

67:16 memory controller came along with the Athlon 64 the second that the memory

67:20 controller was taken off the chipset all of a sudden um there was less

67:26 differentiation in terms of performance because there was nothing the motherboard manufacturers could really

67:31 do besides routing the traces really cleanly to the memory banks that would

67:35 affect the way that the performance was going to play out because it was no

67:40 longer being relayed by anything there was no like tweaking they could do to

67:43 this chipset there's just this integrated memory controller it's built right into the CPU so there's that um

67:49 and I mean even then though you know PCI Express AGP these were features that

67:53 could differentiate boards you know better implement of the graphics ports

67:57 um was something whereas now especially on the Intel platform even PCI Express

68:03 Lanes are implemented at the CPU level

68:06 so what's not implemented at the CPU level now there's a few things so

68:10 there's usb3 which is on the South Bridge there's SATA which is on the sth

68:14 bridge um so really anything that's built into

68:18 the CPU there's not much the motherboard manufacturers can do about it besides

68:22 helping you tweak more overclocking speed out of it

68:25 everything else now okay so yeah onboard Graphics was another way that

68:29 motherboard manufacturers could differentiate now that's built onto the CPU

68:32 too so really there's not uh there's not

68:36 a whole lot left they can build in uh you know things like SAS functionality

68:40 like gigabyt sun with the X x79 S5

68:43 things like Thunderbolt so connectivity more usb3 ports better usb3

68:47 implementations better sound implementation such as A's done with the

68:51 Maximus 5 formula uh these are the ways that these motherboard guys can really

68:56 differentiate from each other but in terms of performance you sit down you

69:00 play a game performance there's not much of a Delta

69:04 anymore um oh dude do you have do you have to

69:09 have that Twitter name it's like I I hardly even want to reply to your

69:12 message but what reason would make you end your YouTube career um good question

69:17 I guess I haven't really thought about it I have zero intention of stopping uh

69:22 making videos on YouTube if anything I feel rejuvenated these days because it

69:27 was uh it was a huge milestone for me to

69:30 hit that like just huge I cannot express

69:33 how awesome it was to hit that 200,000 subscriber Milestone I mean back when I

69:38 started doing this um I I would look at

69:41 guys with 50,000 subscribers or 100,000 subscribers and I'd be like wow that is

69:47 amazing if I can ever get there I will be so grateful and I'll be so happy and

69:52 um and I and I'm there now and I mean now I'm I'm looking for the next I'm

69:55 looking for the next level I'm looking for 500,000 I'm looking for a million I

69:59 mean it's always about taking it to the next level and um it was it was just

70:02 really exciting to get to one of those Milestones that I'd really set for

70:05 myself uh one of the first Milestones that got me really excited was the day

70:09 that this goes back to Logan because I think he was still on the project at the

70:12 time but the day that I passed Tiger Direct blog for the number of

70:16 subscribers as well they've still got more views by a long shot but uh but

70:20 it's it's it's it's fun it's friendly competition I mean I have nothing against any of those other YouTube guys

70:25 it's just it it's kind of fun to to play that game so speaking of that game one

70:29 of the things that's also rejuvenated me lately is check this out so since I hit

70:34 that 200,000 subscriber Mark not only has it not slowed down so

70:40 this is social blade I know this isn't the best one vid stats X is sort of

70:43 better but this gives me I'm just used to the interface here so check this out

70:47 guys so before I hit the 200,000 subscriber Mark so you can see here this

70:51 is my total number of subscribers in this column I was averaging kind of 300

70:56 subscribers a day this is an anomaly I think YouTube was doing a correction

71:00 when I hit that Mark all of a sudden whether it's people spreading the word

71:05 more whether it's you guys supporting me and uh you know telling your friends to

71:09 subscribe to L's Tech tips whether it's people who just see that 200,000 number

71:13 and it feels more credible to them or uh whatever has happened over the last

71:18 little while I've been absolutely overwhelmed with the additional support

71:21 I'm averaging more like a growth rate of 400 450 per day

71:25 which is gives me all the encouragement that I need to keep the project going no

71:30 M no matter what so I want to keep talking Tech with you guys I want to keep producing videos in fact who knows

71:35 maybe sometime in the next few months you might see me even ramp things up to

71:38 a completely new level spoiler alert

71:42 stay tuned I can't give any more details than that right now so don't even

71:46 ask um what do we got let's go back to

71:49 let's go back to Twitter shall we actually you know what no we're not

71:53 going to go back to Twitter yet I'm going to have a look and see if there's any of the other topics that I wanted to

71:57 cover so why four-way s is a bad idea ah

72:01 this this is something where I actually don't have the answer for you guys but

72:06 this is the most confusing thing in the world to me so we're going to go on a

72:09 little Voyage of Discovery here and I'm going to talk about what exactly is the

72:16 cost structure of displays so I will

72:20 back I'll be back I'll be back in like two seconds I just have to go get something

72:41 all right so the prices of displays what

72:44 sort of prompted me to think about this was the fact that one of my buddies

72:48 pointed out to me that he saw a 40in

72:51 TV that was in the neighborhood of like

72:55 400 or 450 bucks 1080p TV you know what

72:59 I'm going to see if I can find it um

73:03 1080P and then uh TV sorry I'm just I'm

73:07 I'm checking on the NC website here it is okay so 40in TV I'm just going to

73:14 copy this too okay maybe you guys can help me figure this out because frankly

73:19 I don't get it so we're going to switch to this view here we're going to go

73:23 ahead and we're going to pull up a 40in TV okay

73:30 paste okay here's a 40in TV Toshiba LCD

73:34 TV I can tell you right now there's no such thing as a TN panel TV so this is

73:39 some kind of a VA or something it's not a TN panel it is

73:45 $400 a 40in TV is

73:48 $400 okay so why is it that a 40-in TV

73:53 at 1080p resolution okay bear with me here going to go on

73:58 sort of a wild ride here why is it that a 40in TV at a 1080p resolution costs

74:04 more than a 1080p oh oh o I'm breaking

74:09 everything 1080p LCD VA so let's look for let's

74:13 look for a VA panel okay so here's a 27

74:16 inch that's an amva LED backl okay it's

74:19 got LED backlights whatever so why does it cost more I can tell you the answer

74:24 it's much larger

74:28 okay got it so larger costs

74:33 more actually where was I going with this something to do with large and

74:37 pixel density and something something something right right right right right okay so a much larger TV costs more okay

74:44 so now let's let's scale things back down again and let's look at uh let's

74:50 look at pixel density so when we get to pixel density all of a sudden the

74:56 smaller something is the more it costs

75:00 because it's more difficult to manufacture so tell me something if a

75:05 bigger device that inherently has lower pixel

75:09 density and a smaller device this monitor I showed you guys before this is

75:13 like in the same price range it's on super discount now but generally speaking it's a $400 so if these two

75:19 things cost the same thing in cost the same in spite of the same resolution why

75:23 is it that this

75:27 device which actually is a 10-in panel

75:30 so in terms of the actual size difference it's like a similar ratio

75:35 going from like a 40in TV to a 27 in LCD

75:39 why is it that this doesn't cost the

75:42 same even though the pixel density is actually significantly higher this is also a 1080p panel if I recall correctly

75:47 this is a Transformer TF700 so here's my question to you what

75:53 is actually affecting how is it that we can produce a 40-in TV which is vastly

75:59 bigger for the same price as this

76:05 LCD and we can't produce you know what I

76:09 had a whole thing sort of in my mind about this and I've sort just totally

76:12 lost my train of thought so I'm going to give up on this topic but the point is

76:16 generally what affects it is it size is it pixel density I can't quite figure it

76:20 out because it doesn't seem to it doesn't seem like the cost scales

76:24 proportionally when we increase the size and then it doesn't seem like the cost

76:28 scales proportionally when we decrease

76:31 the pixel density or increase the pixel density or whatever else the case may be

76:35 I mean did you know that iPad Retina Display replacement IPS panels actually

76:40 only cost like a 100 bucks if you buy them from um I don't know it's like

76:44 laptop repair or screen repair or something.com I give up on this topic

76:48 I'm sorry it's actually getting kind of late and I'm kind of tired so we're going to move into something else and

76:53 this is something that I really did want to talk about Paul's Hardware and awesome sauce news

76:59 are two new YouTube channels that you guys should totally subscribe to if

77:03 you're not already subscribed to raise the world so I'm going to just uh I'm

77:06 going to bring up all of these YouTube channels do here and raise the

77:11 world okay so this is one of them so

77:14 this is Logan's channel from Tech Syndicate so he's actually growing

77:18 pretty fast and uh things are going pretty well over there awesome sauce

77:23 news is uh from that horrible horrible store in the

77:29 US so he's uh he's doing he's doing his

77:32 own sort of vloggy style videos and then I wish him well but I think he's only

77:36 got like a 100 subscribers or something like that see there he is look how sexy

77:40 he is okay and then finally we have

77:43 actually this one I haven't seen what Paul's up to but Paul's Hardware is

77:48 another channel that you guys probably want to check out if you enjoy what I'm doing then uh you're probably going to

77:54 enjoy what what these guys are doing here so Paul only has one video he's

77:59 already produced only half as many videos as Kyle so yeah way to go way to

78:04 go Paul I hope you're watching wow look at this 43 dislikes and zero dislikes Ju

78:09 Just for that I'm gonna I'm going to like the video so he now has I don't

78:13 know Bank shirt with your friends I've actually never liked a video on YouTube

78:16 to be perfectly honest I'm not much of a YouTube Watcher I'm just more of a

78:19 YouTube maker uh what other topics do we have

78:25 ah yes I've had a lot of people ask me

78:28 about my new gear that's coming so if

78:32 you're not familiar with my new gear conversation I blew over 10 grand on New

78:37 Gear so I have an fs700 camera coming which is going to be awesome we'll be

78:41 able to shoot video realistically at 240

78:45 FPS if we need something extremely

78:48 extremely high speed it can do up to 960

78:51 FPS and here's like a like just I have all these ideas in my head of stuff we

78:55 can do with this like all of a sudden we'll be able to empirically evaluate

79:00 the performance in terms of input leg on an LCD monitor because all we'll have to

79:05 do is take a microphone put it next to a mouse and go like this hit it so you

79:11 take a video of the LCD monitor and I guess you

79:16 could you could put the mouse in there as well and then all you have to do is

79:19 sync up with the sound it made when you tapped the mouse and you'll have to have

79:23 the microphone like right next to it we don't want the delay of the sound causing any ill effects actually you

79:26 know what you should probably keep the mouse in the shot so you can really see

79:30 that point of contact and we should be able to in

79:33 theory get down to the exact frame at

79:36 960 FPS okay 960 FPS the exact frame

79:40 where we touched the mouse then we can count how many frames until the monitor

79:46 responds and I don't know if this is going to work maybe it's totally stupid

79:50 maybe 960 FPS isn't enough but I'm super excited to try it out so I'm think if we

79:55 have like a CRT on one side and an LCD on the other side we can just try it and

79:59 see like how much if we take like ASUS's

80:02 144 Herz CCD and put that next to a CRT

80:05 how much of a difference is there are the CRT die hards missing out by

80:10 avoiding LCD or are they still right is it still the fastest way to game so so

80:16 that's something that's super exciting so my new gear is coming next

80:20 week so I've got H to my capture cards coming which means I won't have to use

80:24 this webcam anymore I've got uh new microphone coming I've got a new tripod

80:29 coming new lights all kinds of crazy stuff so I'm not going to look all pale

80:32 and ghostly like this unless I do look pale and ghostly like this in which case

80:36 um you know sorry dudes um that means I just don't know how to use this gear

80:40 that I you know blew a bunch of money on which would be a very sad thing indeed

80:43 very sad thing indeed 247 new interactions okay so we're going

80:49 to try and do uh a little a couple a couple more q&as and then I think oh you

80:54 know what but before we do more Q&A let's do the giveaway announcement and

80:57 then we'll we'll finish up with a little bit of Q&A so I received and I've got my

81:02 notes here you know what I'll just let you guys go through the notes uh go

81:05 through the notes with me so first I want to say the winner and I hope you're

81:11 watching I was I my original plan was to

81:14 have it be so that only someone who was watching could win but I realized you

81:18 know what that's not really fair I mean anyone who does a draw does a draw and

81:23 then you get in touch with the person who won um uh before I okay before I

81:28 announce the winner I want to talk a little bit about the format of the contest the format of the contest was

81:32 wrong um my original idea was that the

81:35 first one to complete the task should win however I made some mistakes in the

81:40 task that made it so I couldn't really do it that way so I required people to

81:47 format and punctuate the secret phrase

81:50 which they had to jump around to different videos and check out and and

81:53 discover and then unjumble so the secret phrase I had them format I wanted them

81:57 to format it it exactly the way I did unfortunately I formatted it incorrectly

82:04 so the secret phrase was I finished the quest where's my swag and I had a period

82:10 on the word Quest and I was missing a question mark on the word swag what I

82:15 also didn't realize when I was creating the challenge was that I finished my

82:20 quest where's the swag would also be a

82:23 correct way way to solve the puzzle so

82:26 instead of taking the first person who replied exactly the way that I had it

82:31 written which took I mean there were over a hundred

82:35 correct sort of correct like not what I had in mind but correct responses where

82:39 they added a question mark or they they switched around theth and the my uh

82:45 before the one who formatted it the way that I had wanted in my head for it to

82:49 be formatted and I didn't think it was fair to do it that way so what I did is

82:52 I took all the people that did answer it correctly I dropped them all in Excel

82:56 and then generated a random number and the winner is can I get a drum roll can

83:00 everybody drum roll please Bernard Yip so that's your email

83:05 address I'll email you if you're okay okay we have to go okay we have to go to

83:08 Twitter though so there's some notes here I'm going to go to Twitter after Bernard if you're on Twitter please

83:13 message me or or email me again I can have a look at my email on the other

83:17 screen let me know if you're watching I hope you're watching and I hope you're

83:20 excited because you are going to be the proud owner of VOR GTX 660

83:25 TI and the shipping's free don't worry about it I'll cover the shipping even

83:29 though it's expensive do you guys have any idea how much it cost me to ship the

83:32 Duke Nukem uh the Duke Nukem NVIDIA

83:36 prize which was a GTX 580 I think 480

83:40 something like that 580 uh 3D Vision Monitor and a copy of Duke

83:46 Nukem $500 it cost to ship that to the winner

83:52 $500 unfreaking believable um so anyway

83:55 okay I'm going to have a look at my email over here and uh in the meantime

83:58 so yeah okay these were all my notes for everything I wanted to talk about so I

84:02 accepted any of those answers so with or

84:05 without punctuation um and with theth and the my switched around I did end up

84:10 requiring the period because there were already so many people that did have the

84:13 period in there that um that yeah it it

84:16 ended up having to work that way now the way that I'm going to do it next time in

84:20 order to make it more fair especially for people in other time zones I feel

84:24 for you guys is I am going to leave it for a couple days maybe two or three

84:28 days I might have a longer treasure hunt so that it's more difficult but then

84:32 what I'll do is I'll give you guys a couple days and then I'll have everyone

84:35 submit and then I will do a random draw and I'll make that very clear from the

84:40 beginning I'm sorry that this wasn't better organized and uh yeah so so you

84:45 know hey congratulations to the winner and I don't see an email from him yet

84:50 but um you know hopefully he'll get in touch soon and thank you guys

84:55 so much for participating it's just been

84:58 awesome and uh I think that wraps it up for the giveaway we've got six minutes

85:02 left so let's do some more Q&A and that is the most terrifying thing that I

85:06 think I've seen today that that is that is horrible dude he says I think I've

85:12 made the best T-shirt ever and by best T-shirt I think he means the t-shirt

85:16 that will like get him kicked out of places that's awful

85:22 um that's just I'm I'm going to go ahead and favorite that that's

85:27 terrific all right Daniel talk about non-reference graphics cards and fully

85:31 custom liquid cooling what happened to personal x79 build uh Daniel I had an

85:35 update on the x79 build not a week ago so I'm still working on it I'm hoping to

85:39 get it done in this calendar year um talking about non-reference graphics

85:43 cards and fully custom liquid cooling unless you have a manufacturer in mind

85:47 that has already made a water block for your non-reference card if you want to

85:51 water cool your card get a reference card because it's very different

85:55 difficult these days to water cool a video card without a full cover block

85:59 and full cover blocks do not work on non

86:04 compatible cards so it just doesn't work that way

86:09 estaban what would you recommend Gigabyte x79 S5 Wi-Fi or whatever or

86:15 whatever okay or ASRock x79 extreme 9

86:18 x79 S5 that I mean asking me that is

86:22 kind of like asking me what would you recommend the motherboard that you're

86:25 using that you're using which is that's the motherboard I'm using or some other

86:29 motherboard um ASRock is not one of my preferred motherboard

86:34 manufacturers so I I prefer isus MSI and

86:38 Gigabyte so I would definitely go with the Gigabyte option there Marcus if you

86:42 were to build an LG 1155 PC today what motherboard and CPU would you choose you

86:46 know what great question but there's a lot of different answers and I'm going

86:49 to tie this into what one of the other guys here asked I saw something about uh

86:53 talking about ITX gaming um if I was

86:56 going to build an lg1155 PC I would want to take advantage of the fact that it

87:01 can fit in a very small form factor so I'd probably go with something like an

87:04 ASUS p8 z77 I uh Deluxe okay so that's a

87:09 z77 ITX board um then I'd go with

87:12 something like an external sound card like U oh you know what I don't have it

87:15 next to me anymore so you can't use the onboard sound on that it's terrible but

87:19 well it's not terrible but it's not it's onboard sound so I'd used some kind of

87:22 external USB DAC and as a headphone amp and all that kind of stuff so I'd do

87:26 that and then I'd probably go with a 3570k because I'm assuming this is for

87:31 like a portable gaming machine and then I'd throw probably something like a 660

87:34 Ti in there so hey Bernard there's my recommendation for what you should do

87:39 with this card and then in terms of case I'd probably go with um either that

87:43 Cooler Master one that I just unboxed the elite 120 I think it's called or I'd

87:48 go with a Silverstone F3 which is sweet sweet case the mini one the mini one F3

87:53 Mini Joel what do you like so much about the

87:56 tj07 it looks like it's showing its age to me um something that is timeless and

88:01 classic doesn't age a tj07 ages like

88:05 like a fine wine or like a a perfectly

88:08 cut steak um it is showing its age in

88:11 terms of features which I can fix I can cut Cable Management holes I can throw

88:16 in mounting for whatever it is I need to put in it but you cannot fix beautiful

88:21 design and I love the unibody shape um I

88:25 love the size the efficiency of the size I mean a Cosmos 2 actually can't fit any

88:31 more water cooling crap than a tj07 I mean maybe a little bit more but when

88:35 you look at the difference in size it's the efficiency of the layout of the

88:39 internals that makes the TGF 7 so appealing you can fit all this water

88:43 cooling crap in there and it's still not

88:46 that big like it's big but it's not that

88:51 big um Ryan is there a sound card you can recommend for a balance between

88:54 gaming and music enj honestly anything from the ASUS line the Zonar line is

88:59 going to be awesome um if you're using headphones get one with a headphone amp

89:02 if you're using speakers get one that doesn't have a headphone amp because it doesn't matter um and then as for a

89:07 balance between gaming and music enjoyment good sound is good sound I've

89:12 always taken that philosophy about it maybe to the most extreme of audio files

89:17 there will be some difference between a gaming optimized sound card and a music

89:21 optimized sound card but the reality of it is if it

89:25 produces clear sound you know deep bass

89:29 Rich mids clear highs if it does all of those things it'll be great for games

89:33 it'll be great for movies and it will be great

89:36 for music did I say movies or music whatever all

89:39 three all right one more minute left so I am going to take the next tweet the

89:46 Tweet that's at the top this is sort of going to be my thing where I take like

89:50 the top tweet I'm going to click it now

89:55 Michael great question Michael this is a fantastic question why do TVs have 240

90:02 HZ plus and not monitors fantastic question Michael TVs are doing this okay

90:10 this is your leg this is them pulling it

90:14 your 960 Hertz or 480 htz clear motion or

90:20 whatever it is they're doing on the TV is not a 960 HZ panel it doesn't work

90:27 that way you are not actually seeing 960

90:31 or let's use let's use your example so your example is 240 you are not seeing

90:37 240 image refreshes every second HTMI is

90:41 not even remotely capable of carrying that kind of bandwidth even the new

90:45 revised HTMI is not capable of carrying

90:49 more than 1080p 120 frames per second um

90:53 that's the one with the faster processors on either end and whatever

90:56 1.4a or something like that who cares HDMI sucks but

91:01 um what they're doing is they are not

91:04 just refreshing the image so let's say here's your motion okay so something's

91:08 moving across the screen like this these are your frames okay so instead of just

91:13 doing this so let's say let's say we got four frames one two three four to show

91:17 you the motion in between each of those

91:20 frames they are flickering the backlight and that plays a trick on your eye that

91:25 makes so if they go two flicks and one

91:29 frame two flicks and one frame two flicks one frame it plays a trick with

91:34 your eye that makes the motion look smoother but also has sort of a strange

91:40 effect that makes it look unnaturally smooth to some people so when you see

91:46 someone saying this is a 240 HZ TV or 480 HZ TV they are referring to the

91:52 modulation of the back light not to the

91:56 refresh rate of the actual LCD panel so

91:59 that's a really important clarification that's why there were so many 120 HZ TVs

92:03 out there that people were talking about or they wanted to buy or they were even

92:07 mistakenly buying with the intention of running 3D Vision or something with

92:12 their graphics card getting an in a middleware driver and they're trying to do this only to realize that their 120

92:18 HZ TV was only a 60 HZ panel it wasn't

92:21 even capable of displaying a left and a right image at 60 HZ for each eye with

92:27 3D glasses so fantastic question and uh

92:30 thank you very much for asking it thank you guys so much for participating those

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