holy crap we're live welcome everybody
to I think this is like my fifth or sixth live stream something like that um
either way I think I'm getting a little bit more used to the routine I see
there's lots and lots of people joining us in the chat
already um actually not that many but we're starting so you know hopefully
more people will will tune in soon I've got a lot of really cool stuff to talk
about today and as usual we'll be doing a fair amount of Q&A mostly on Twitter
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on Twitter because that is the way to interact with the show however um there
are some challenges with Twitter Twitter is not actually the best platform ever
and you know what actually I've come up with another topic for tonight's live
stream and that is the fact that I absolutely hate hoot it's the stupidest
thing ever and I'm going to show you guys all the reasons I hate it and I
really hope someone from Twitter or hoot or someone who knows someone who knows
someone at hoot is watching this because
uh yeah it's not very
good whoa and I've got an audio Echo
going here hold on a second I'm g go
ahead and turn that that there down and of course because my cat chewed
up my uh hold on oh can't take that right now because my cat chewed up my
volume control I actually have a really hard time adjusting in it yeah it won't
uh won't turn off come on there we go
there we go all right so let's open that back up hoot it's not very good there's
my note for later so I guess what we'll do is we'll just get started here
so huge well first of all I guess thanks
for tuning in guys uh we've got like 300 people watching already so that's that's
outstanding given that I haven't you know what let's give the guys who are
waiting for the YouTube video let's give them a chance to tune in I'm actually
super impressed with and yes the giveaway announcement will be today and I'm sorry
for that tweet where I called it a GTX 670 it is not a 670 my bad it is a GTX
660 Ti which is also a perfectly good
graphics card and by perfectly good I mean awesome so uh so yeah we're going
to do that later and uh where was I going with that
yes doing oh yes right my YouTube video isn't even up yet so the YouTube viewers
haven't even had a chance to tune in because uh the first recording I did
like I do a recording and then I upload that to YouTube so that they can tune in
and then they can see the live stream but unfortunately the first one I
recorded didn't have any sound so I uploaded it and fortunately I realized
that it had no sound before anyone actually anyone actually looked at it um
and I I mean I know I have technical problems with my videos some sometimes
but um yeah I'm trying to avoid them trying
to avoid them as much as possible so let's see if uh I just want to make sure
that video's up let's go ahead and check
if the YouTube viewers are going to have a chance to tune in yet yes it is up
there are nine comments and five views and poor poor this guy I mean what what
what is this name here I I I have like I
have no idea I have no idea what this name is here check this out
like uh I I don't stand a chance of reading this anyway he just wants to go
to work and I'm very sorry that my live stream is going to be interfering with
work because that's uh that's very sad and I hope that you do tune in either
way so I guess let's get started topic number one today is
NVIDIA's green light um I'd love to see
on on Twitter or on the chat on Twitch
who here is familiar with what green light refers to okay Oscar says
Venezuela says hi that's cool Oscar hi
to Venezuela as well okay Jason says hey
lonus you're live is the speed of your RAM important to overclocking no
generally speaking not really it's um
it's less of a factor now that we have unlocked processor so RAM didn't matter
back in the day when AMD had unlocked multipliers and then RAM mattered a lot
in the uh in the socket 478 days RAM was
everything getting high performance high frequency RAM was the only way you were
going to get the maximum overclock out of your CPU and then both Intel and AMD now have
unlocked processors so you actually don't even need to adjust your RAM speed
in order to get whatever overclocking you want um Adrian wants to know how I
know Logan honestly I don't really know Logan I've never met him in person just
we've exchanged tweets and emails and YouTube private messages over the last a
while here um that that's about it we only really know each other through like
like the YouTube the YouTube Brotherhood so I I'm late tonight Brian I am not
late tonight I was exactly on time I was about as on time as someone could ever
be for a live stream that starts when they show up so no matter what I do no
matter what I do I'm on time so no one
I'm not familiar with Greenlight oh this is great green light is extremely
interesting so it started with the firm architecture cards and what green light
basically is is okay let's say Galaxy for example Galaxy um colorful palette
actually I don't know if colorful is a GeForce partner I I don't remember whatever they're not in North America so
let's go with the GeForce Partners MSI Su C VGA all of these guys what green
light means is they create a design for
a card so if you guys aren't familiar with how an adom board partner Works
basically NVIDIA designs a chipset so that's a that's a
GK 104 4 for example gk104 is the chip
that's on a 660 Ti it's also the chip on a 670 a 680 and a 690 but there's two of
them so they have a chipset then they do a reference design
where they take that chipset and they completely design a product around it so
they'll put on a memory amount of memory they'll put like a suggested memory RAM
speed frequency timings they'll design like a power delivery system and they'll
make a PCB for it they'll do a cooler that is a reference card so it's
actually designed in every possible way by NVIDIA although NVIDIA manufactures
nothing NVIDIA's chips themselves are manufactured by a third party such as
tsmc and their cards themselves are
actually usually man well not usually they're always manufactured by someone
else as well so when NVIDIA does like a
new launch for example if they launch a a reference GTX 680 that means one of
their addin board Partners was probably contracted to produce all the reference
680s which then the other partners have to put their sticker on and you know
they're kind of doing it as a favor for NVIDIA so they probably don't make a whole lot of money on it and all of that
but that's okay reference design okay
now the addin board partners are more than welcome to design their own many
aspects of the GPU so you've seen you know EVGA with their billion different
versions of every GPU where they've got a super clock and a super super clock
and a for the win and a for the win plus and a super Super Clock Plus and a
classified they've got so many cards cards so some of those have different
cooling solutions some of them have different clock speeds some of them have
different Power delivery which will enable better overclocking some of them
will have different amounts of RAM so they might be 2 gigs three gigs four
gigs six gigs doesn't matter um these are all the different things that the
add-in board Partners can do they can add different display outputs so great
example was evga's 570 HD where they
actually added and this isn't a 570 but they added a DisplayPort out which none
of the other 570s really had they were mostly dual DVI with a mini HDMI another
example would be Galaxy's 570 MDT which actually had triple display outputs on a
570 before NVIDIA officially introduced that feature with the 600 series okay so
we got reference designs then we have addin board partner designs and that's
anything that was designed by someone other than NVIDIA and doesn't look like
that standard NVIDIA card
okay so green light means that Nidia it
has to approve or give the green light the goahead to any design that a
manufacturer submits before it gets
released to Market so what does this mean there's a
lot of different sides to the story so I'm going to give you guys a little bit of the history of what's happened to
bring the green light program to light to light to Green Light uh to light
recently so number one is MSI's power
edition cards they're power edition cards cards they're Hawk edition cards
Nidia has a certain spec so you know
this is aside from the cooler and the clock speed whatever they have a certain spec for how much voltage they want
appli to the GPU how much voltage they want to apply to different parts of the
kit that is used to make up this graphics card where the add in board
partner can design all the other stuff and what MSI was doing was they were
allowing the gpus to be overvolted and
overclocked in a way that inidia did did
not authorize now Tom's Hardware did a fantastic article actually it was the
German site that I think did the original article but there's an English version that's sort of shorter and and
easier to read for people who don't read German like me and uh what they
basically discovered was that MSI was dramatically overvolting one of the
components on this board in order to achieve the results they were getting I
mean a 660 Ti power Edition when maximum
overclocked could actually run right there with a gtx6 70 reference card when
they were both at their maximum overclocks which basically means you'd
have to have rocks in your head in order to buy a 670 reference card when this
660 Ti power Edition was just as fast
once you overclocked it so so they discovered that's that's what
they were doing um it was also then discovered that MSI is revising the
cards um in order to adhere to NVIDIA's
guidelines with respect to GPU voltages
and um and the overall design of the card to get it sort of greenlighted
again now green light doesn't mean that MSI cannot release the product you can
see they released the 660ti power Edition even though it was not running
according to spec so what NVIDIA has basically come
out and said in the last uh the last day or so is that it's not a matter of them
redlighting a product they're not saying okay you can't release this product to
the market but what they are saying to the add-in board Partners is if you
release this product we are not going to
warrantee the components that you bought from us so basically they're voiding the
addin board Partners warranty for overclocking outside of the certain
threshold that NVIDIA wants overclocked
another example is EVGA 680
classified that um is no longer sold
with the evbot utility that allowed it to be
overvolted okay so a couple different ways to to interpret this number one is
you could kind of go Rubble Rubble Rubble NVIDIA is limiting the board
Partners in terms of what they can do in the terms of the designs they can bring to market the performance they can
deliver to Gamers um so that's that's one perspective the other perspective is
uh this is from NVIDIA's Camp is that the green light program is designed to
improve the reliability and the consistency of the experience for
GeForce gpus for gamers so NVIDIA has an
internal philosophy that and I agree with them 100% on this that if your
video card dies after a year or two
that's not a good thing and that that's
going to create a bad customer experience a bad experience around the
GeForce experience and NVIDIA is deeply concerned with what kind of an
experience the customer has whether they buy a gal Galaxy card an EVGA card ASUS
whoever it doesn't matter from their perspective they want to make sure no
matter who the customer chooses they get
a great experience so they're evaluating things in this green light program
they're evaluating Acoustics they're evaluating the temperatures they're
evaluating the um the size of the gpus
making sure that the customer is going to have a great experience so from their
perspective they're kind of sitting here going okay we did all the work on this
we understand how this chip worked down to its very like
microscopic level we've done all the testing and determined what is a safe
voltage in terms of the heat that it's going to Output you know whether the
cooling design can handle it or whatever else what is a safe voltage in terms of
the longevity of the chip they have B the chips at their level so remember
guys a gk104 GPU is exactly the same GPU
exactly the same thing whether it's in a 660 Ti 670 or 680 so what is the
difference the difference is that they actually take these gpus and they sort
them into which ones are validated for 680 670 660 Ti operational speeds as
well as the number of functional units that are enabled
okay so NVIDIA is basically going okay look well we already B these for you we
told you what voltage is safe to run them at from a reliability and a heat
output perspective and if you want to go ahead and turn them up that's fine but
the onus is going to be on you to support these things once they're out
there in the market because this is not what we designed them to be used
for so who's right actually that's outside
the scope of this conversation but I would love to get your comments on
Twitter and have a look at what you guys think about the greenl program and
whether okay you guys are just like you guys are just not talking about this at
all okay please please at Linus tweet
that direction tweet and let me know what do you think of the green light
program whose side are you on are you with the add-in board Partners who are
basically going okay well we should be able to take this thing that we bought
from you NVIDIA we should be able to do whatever we want with it and you should
warranty it because you know we're your
partners or do you take the other perspective and go well NVIDIA kind of
has the right to set a warranty term I mean they're not telling the partners
they can't do it they're just saying we're not going to warranty it because
you used it outside of the Opera it's like if you use your fridge um to cool
your PC you're not going to get a warranty for that it's like a consumer
TV actually consumer TVs are a great example TBA I believe is the only brand
that will actually warranty a consumer TV the instant you put it into a
commercial environment so if you use a Sony TV Samsung TV in your business in
your restaurant you have TV displayed you you want it up on the wall the
second you put that in there your warranty is void because it is not valid
for commercial use so it's not like this is uncommon thing okay we finally have
some interactions let's have a look at what people say all
right oh wow we've got a lot of responses now yay way to go guys okay
Nicholas NVIDIA side um Raz we're not
talking about that right now Jordan NVIDIA is taking a stand I like it they
aren't limiting us we still have both options now Jordan something I would
bring up about your point here is that we actually don't have both options
every partner that I'm aware of that had a skew that was not warrantable under
green light has pulled that skew back so
effectively by pulling the warranty out of them they have removed those options
from the market whether they're correct about it or not is sort of the debate
we're having here but we don't really have a choice anymore so there something
to bear in mind uh NVIDIA is correct NVIDIA NVIDIA
NVIDIA are in the right here uh Ryan says what's going to happen to the
existing 660 Ti well for the power Edition from MSI which is the example I
focused on a lot here um any that were already released um are going to be what
they are and so they'll perform a little better and then the new ones that are
redesigned will be under the same name they'll be the same skew and they'll
have slightly less overclocking potentially you won't be able to crank up the voltage as much um and that will
be that okay fax says NVIDIA has the right to control their warranty Alex I'm
with NVIDIA they shouldn't have to warranty something it's not designed for
so it looks like by and large you guys are both are all very much on
the green light NVIDIA side which is very interesting because a lot of the
time consumers and I'm not going to generalize you guys here anything like
that but a lot of the time consumers are not uh very quick to side with sort of
the multi-billion dollar uh international company in this case I can
see it from both perspectives because
what NVIDIA's effectively done is they've taken something the GPU Partners
have always taken for granted they've always been able to do this before and
it's always been one of the ways that they can compete against each other
because it's not like NVIDIA supports every partner equally I mean they try
they do their best but it's like you know if you have like 10 children
there's bound to be one that's your favorite or whatever else um so one of
the ways that the that the GPU Partners could use to differentiate from each
other um has has been taken away so I
can see why particularly some of the partners that relied on this this would
be really upset it's like um should your kids have an ice cream every Saturday um
you know what it there's nothing wrong with giving them an ice cream every
Saturday if they're being good um are
the kids are the kids wrong when they
say well we're still being good and the expectation was always that if we were
really good we were going to get ice cream on Saturday and now you're saying
no ice cream anymore um I don't know I
don't know I I don't have I don't have the right answer here but uh okay NVIDIA
side NVIDIA's in the right Matthew says say my name that's creepy dude creepy
creepy creepy oh wait you didn't mean it like
that all right what else we got here so we've got about another 65 results which
means I can't read all of them but I am going to do a quick skim here once I get
down to uh whoa we have a lot of a lot
of tweets here Matthew something something I don't know whatever let's
just look at them uh
what possibility change motherboard is it going to be dis NVIDIA is correct
NVIDIA is correct oh I think I actually went past it there we go on NVIDIA's
side it's the partners that want to crank up the cards Scotty Scotty you're
the first one toci side with the partners here I'm with the partners
because they produce brilliant coolers and it just improves the card's performance you're right it does improve
the card's performance so here's an interesting take on it this was um I
forget who brought this up but evga's
680 was originally permitted to operate
this way and then now they're not able to ship it
with evbot anymore so effectively NVIDIA
has created this environment where SKS that don't really exist anymore okay so
the power Edition as we know it for 660ti doesn't exist the 680 classified
with all the overvolting doesn't exist but SKS that no longer exist have been
used to set overclocking records and set an unrealistic expectation with
customers did they do this intentionally did they not I actually don't know
um NVIDIA has the right to limit their warranty I'm on the NVIDIA side I think
the green light program is great and I'm all for a good customer experience you know what that is that is one huge way
to uh to look at this is that if NVIDIA is effectively improving the reliability
in the GeForce experience then how can
we see it as a bad thing hard to say I mean what if uh what
if the partners basically said to you guys here we'll give you a BIOS that uh
you know if you register your card we'll give you a BIOS that unlocks all of the
overvolting options and you will you'll
forfeit your warranty would you guys do something like
that I mean that might be the solution to all of this MSI continues producing
the power Edition exactly the same way that they always have and then they just
kind of go okay well you know we're going to ship it like this with this
BIOS that limits all this stuff so we can maintain our warranty and then we'll
give customers the option to and I don't know how they' track it to be perfectly
honest I mean there all hypothetical but we'll give customers the option to
Forfeit the warranty that way it's not on MSI's head what the customer decides
to do with that card um and NVIDIA won't have to deal with it either that way
you're just taking responsibility for your own your own overclocking Adventures which is how it used to be
actually I mean overclocking used to avoid everyone's warranty back in the
day so okay does AMD have a similar process
AMD I think is pretty much they they let the partners do what they want at this
point I mean you look at something like the devil 13 7990 from powercolor I mean
that's a very elaborate design that went into that card and uh they
also yeah they they released it power color managed to release it so I'm with
NVIDIA not warranting misuse I'll take him side I'm going to look for anyone
else who's who's on the uh who's on the partner side here I think we only had
one person side with the partners through all of
this NVIDIA oh here we go here we go
male saysi think I am more on the partner side because if they buy the
cards they should be able to do what to NVIDIA is right to though okay I'm
unfortunately I don't really understand that tweet but thank you male for um
participating okay we're going to move on from this topic now I see I have a
ton more tweets about this but as you guys can clearly see it's pretty much
impossible for me to read and and and analyze all of them but I just wanted to
share this whole situation with you get your guys' thoughts on it give you my
thoughts on it let's move on to the next thing Ultra books
so my understanding of an Ultra Book was
that uh aside from MacBook Air which we all know hopefully we all know is not an
Ultrabook MacBook Air is not an Ultrabook okay so we're clear um because
Ultrabook requ the word Ultrabook
requires an Intel license to use it it's
on a skewby skew basis for those of you who don't know what a skew is a skew
refers it means stock keeping unit it's like one sort of set specification of a
particular in this case notebook okay so
it's on a skewby skew basis there's no charge from Intel to validate a notebook
the only charge involved is you take your notebook we're going to pretend this is a notebook this is going to be
my prop for the rest of the night no matter what I'm talking about so you take your notebook you slap a shipping
label on it you send it to Intel and
they analyze it they look at it in a bunch of different ways and sort of then
they either give you the okay yes this is an Ultra Book or they say no go back
to the drawing board you have to fix this and this and this and it is not an
Ultrabook yet send it back again when it's done and uh so anyway so apple does
not participate in that program so MacBook Air in spite of its similarity
to something like an ASUS Zen book is not an Ultra Book okay so I would love
to see some tweets here guys about what you think are the characteristics of an
Ultra Book so we're going to go back to uh we're going to go back to the Twitter
feed here 36 new interactions of
course of course there are 36 new interactions you guys are you guys are
crazy you guys are awesome honestly in the last week I've gained about 4,000
followers on Twitter which is which is outstanding and I'm sure not all of you
were just in it for the graphics card giveaway I'm sure most of you were in it
so you could participate in the live streams and send me messages and all
that kind of good stuff that's what most of you were up
to all right let's see anyone
got Ultra books suck yeah okay Ultra
books are cool however all right here we go here we go so let's get into what
people think of this whole Ultrabook thing Zack says Ultrabooks are cool but
I would much rather get a more substantial customizable laptop my response to Zach is this is the
direction things are heading man whether we like it or not Apple has set this
trend with MacBook Pro MacBook and
MacBook Air that that's the Direction notebooks are going I me look at
something like the razor blade if that's not like an apple aluminum unibody sort
of inspired design then I don't know what is you look at ASUS Zenbook if
that's not a MacBook Air inspired design then I don't know what is but anyway
moving right along so Joseph thin you're right thin is part of
it um Ultra books are overpriced Slim in SSD ah Nicholas okay so slim yes SSD not
necessarily but I'll get into that in more detail later Joel says good quality
good quality can be Quantified in a lot of different ways um so again don't
worry guys I'm going to talk about this I'm going to talk about this okay High battery life says Jordan fast small and
light says Derek uh Ultrabooks are Intel laptops that are thin and light and good
battery life Joe I love your picture this is the second time I've seen you on
the Twitter feed I I still need to know if that's actually you though because
that's that's amazing that burger is well it's literally the size of a man's
head um okay battery life and thinness Intel I series CPU SSD integrated
Graphics Ultra books suck not enough power okay Dom we're sorry uh 60 new
interactions okay okay I'm just going to take these 60 if you guys do want to
participate in the whole like Twitter thing I need you guys to like be on the
ball on your tweets because I can only read so many of them slim and Powerful
battery life size and weight okay I'm I'm looking for a few different things
here guys that I'm not see yet because there's way more to Ultra Book than I
actually understood myself but the uh we had one of Intel's field guys in today
and he explained all the different aspects of things that um Austin Austin
you can watch the live stream after on the YouTube channel so I can't I can't I
can't redo the whole thing just for you Ultra books are nice I wouldn't buy one
so yeah he explained all the different stuff that goes into it none of you are getting it which is uh which is awesome
because I feel a little bit better about me not knowing what an Ultra Book was about okay so number one then then then
form factor form factor is huge so depending on the screen size the
diagonal screen size Intel has different specs for how thick an Ultrabook is
allowed to be to still be an Ultrabook okay so if you have a bigger screen size
you're allowed a little bit more thickness and it can still be an Ultrabook okay battery life honestly
Intel isn't too stringent on battery life the requirement is 5 hours and
that's that means five hours of like real five hours not like five hours of
like you put it in hibernate and you try not to like go too close to it and it'll
last for five hours no five hours with Wi-Fi with using the computer of actual
General usage and Intel validates this stuff okay however the sort of the
recommended what we're seeing more commonly is closer to around eight hours
which is fantastic I mean eight hours is long enough that you can realistically
use the computer in sort of an all day type environment as long as you're
putting it to sleep whenever you're not using it and then waking up when you are
using it aha which leads us to another spec so a lot of you suggested that an
SSD is a necessary part of the Ultrabook
spec it is not an SSD is a great way to
meet the Ultrabook spec because it'll mean that you can have a thinner form
factor if you're using like an M SATA SSD it'll mean that your power
consumption will be really low it'll run really cool um it will also enable fast
wake from sleep times and overall Snappy
performance so Intel has a spec that says it can take no longer than seven
seconds for an Ultrabook to wake from sleep now when uh his name is Ben we're
going to have a couple episodes on the ncixcom channel featuring him in the
next uh next week or two um so Ben
pointed out to me that with an SSD an Ultra Book can typically and oh yeah
boot boot times are uh are probably looked at as well although it wasn't on
the list of things that are and analyzed so the UEFI BIOS went very quickly the
first time we booted it up and it booted up extremely quickly then when we put it
to sleep and opened it up it took less than two steambow less than two seconds
to be fully functional when it was coming up from sleep so an SSD enables
that however an SSD isn't the only way to do it you are allowed as a laptop
manufacturer to implement a hybrid solution such as a hard drive with an
SSD cache the SSD cache has to be at least 16 gigs and with that hybrid
solution you can honestly with the hard
drive you would just wouldn't be able to meet the spec Intel doesn't explicitly
say you can't use a plane hard drive but what they do say is you have to adhere
to this performance standard which rules out hard drives so with a hybrid drive
you can meet that spec while not having the add extra expense of going with a
straight SSD solution so something like a momentus XT or a separate 16 gig on an
MSA with a separate mechanical hard drive running in the Shell uh these are
solutions that the partners can Implement so okay so there's a
performance aspect um it has to use a third generation core I3 I5 or i7
processor I you know personally I wouldn't mind if they locked it down to
just i5s and i7s I mean um at the point where you're looking at low power i3s
they're not um they're not going to deliver that that snappiness that
performance um connectivity an Ultrabook
must have a highspeed connectivity Now
Intel doesn't specify what that is but in Practical terms it must have a USB 3
port and it or or sorry or it must have
a Thunderbolt port or both it has to have at least one though uh one of the
other things with respect to connectivity is that I believe business
class Ultrabooks must have an Ethernet port they can't rely solely on Wi-Fi now
all Ultrabooks do have to have Wi-Fi which makes sense because none of them
really have Optical drives and if you had no Wi-Fi and this Ultrabook this
like portable device that actually you have to plug in every time you use it
that would be stupid but um that's an aside at this point moving along to some
of the other things Ultrabooks must have right they must have Intel's identity
protection technology and they must have
Intel's anti- theft technology now we did a really cool Tech tips um about
Intel anti- theft technology and I'm going to give you guys uh I'm actually
going to give those of you who are who are subscribed to uh who not subscribed
see I'm so used to being like a YouTuber those of you you who are following me on
Twitter I am going to explain one of the
most cryptic things that I have ever uploaded to the internet ever today so
this was an image that I that I uploaded today this is the Crazy Russian for
those of you who asked if that's slick of course it isn't slick it's the Russian look how Russian he looks um so
that's him drawing an evil mustache on
yours truly so the episode we shot today was really cool because we uh we had me
steal Ben's Ultra Book steal I mean I didn't keep it you know although maybe I
should have actually I couldn't have because I stole it I went to a nearby
Starbucks where I could get on the Wi-Fi and then I gave him a call and we did
kind of like a fake thing like it was kind of fun we were like Ben I stole your Ultra Book and I going to log into
your Facebook and I'm G to message your grandmother and um and so Ben was like
well no lonus I'm going to use my anti- theft technology which is built into the
ultra book at a pre-bio level so there's
like there's like hardware and then there's like like bare metal firmware
then there's BIOS which is programmable you can erase and and reflash it then
there's your OS okay so it's built in at this level um and what he was able to do
and the subscription to mcafe service I think cost like 60 bucks a year or
something like that what he was able to do was he was able to tell his Ultra
Book you can tell it a couple things you can tell it if you go too long without
an internet connection shut off and lock
you can also tell it next time you have network connectivity shut off lock um
you can't get around this reformatting the OS will not help reflashing the BIOS
will not help once it's locked so once he locked it and I was sitting there I
was able to show the screen to the camera and go okay there's a message
from Ben hi this says Ben please return my laptop and you cannot boot The
Notebook no matter what you do which is very very cool so that is required as
part of the Ultrabook spec every Ultra Book must have that feature so if you
pay for the service then you'll be able to uh we were even able to see where the
Ultrabook was within about a couple block radius just using uh just using
the IP address that it was that it uh that was registered to it when it was uh
when it was on the Wi-Fi so very very very cool stuff I'm just going to see if
there's anything else that I'm forgetting about the whole Ultrabook
concept uh I don't think so I can see if there's any more any more tweets about
Ultrabook and if of course there's probably like 1
billion um okay change the Ultrabook
topic okay I'm sorry I'm sorry the Ultrabook topic isn't interesting for
you uh something about gangdam style
okay we're not talking about that okay you guys aren't interested in Ultrabook
fine be like that fine fine we'll move on to a new topic okay so my next
actually you know what Let's do let's do a short Q&A and then I'll move on to uh
then I'll move on to my next topic so I'm just going to look for some of the
stuff Dom why do retail shops say one or
two gig graphics and not the specs of the card because retail shops you know
big box retail guys who rely on the
ignorance of their customers to make additional margin don't want to tell you
any spec that will be helpful because from their perspective like okay this is
a 2 gig graphics card so from their
perspective would they rather sell you so this this costs like 300 bucks okay
so would they rather convince you that the Cheapo graphics card that they have
you know like let's say a GT 640 or something that they want to charge 150
bucks for would they rather convince you that that two gig card is as good as any
other two gig card absolutely and because the customers walking into these
places don't have the knowledge and the experience to know that the GPU the
memory bus the amount of memory the speed of the memory the type of the
memory all of these things are way
way more important than the amount of memory on a video card in fact for any
lowend to mid-range card the amount of memory is actually almost totally
meaningless because it doesn't have the GPU horsepower to back up that memory
anyway so with that 2 gig frame I mean okay you could take a gt640 you could
put a 4 gig frame buffer on it there's no reason you couldn't do
it that card could potentially hold
enough texture data in its frame buffer to power like a six monitor gaming setup
but that GPU would only be able to run that setup at one frame per second so
who cares can have all the memory it wants it's totally irrelevant because it
will be bottlenecked by the GPU power long before the memory amount even
matters 640 could be a 512 Meg card it wouldn't even matter um and the same
thing goes for even high-end cards as well so something like a 6 60 TI unless
you're running surround you don't need more than two gigs um if you are running
surround all of a sudden more memory starts to matter because it has the GPU
horsepower to back it up so it all comes down to resolution as well as how
demanding the textures of the game are if you're running high-r texture packs
now we're talking about a completely different thing where memory could be the difference between chugging along at
10 FPS because it has to swap out to the system memory all the time and running
at a smooth 30 40 FPS so there hopefully
that addresses the topic of GPU memory
once and for all let's go ahead and have
a look at some of the newer tweets that came in once 81 81 tweets okay so let's
have a look at some of the people who tweeted sort of first here so these are
two minutes does that mean you could also hack into the anti thefting to lock
up someone's computer I guess in theory I don't know that that's actually been done
yet um Alex is in a good mood cool story
Alex uh building a webcam Ultra
Book an Ultra Book with AMD's apus would
be great for portable gaming fantastic Point Alex Wagner so I don't know if you
guys saw my episode about AMD's or rather two episodes on my NCIX Tech tips
Channel about AMD's apus so what we discovered is that as a CPU with
dedicated graphics yeah um it's semi-competitive
with core I3 like it does okay okay it does okay but it's not winning any
awards however if you're using the onboard Graphics it wipes the floor with
not only a core I3 but a core i5 core i7 doesn't matter if you talk onboard
graphics versus onboard Graphics Apu
destroys Intel so uh an Ultra Book with
APU Graphics would actually be fantastic for Ultra portable gaming I am super
excited though to see what Intel's Haswell brings to the table because
Haswell is going to be very power efficient and they are going to be
dramatically boosting up the performance of the
GPU um Derek says thank you for saying
my name you're welcome again Derek uh David says i' prefer GPS me too
but it costs more to implement so what do you want me to say uh I'm sure that
they could do it with GPS it's just that's not the requirement
yet um Troy line is how can I stop my Galaxy
S from discharging when I charging it and using it could I buy a different
battery please Troy the only thing I can tell you is uh get maybe a higher
powerered USB port if that's what you're charging it off of um there are some
motherboards that have like superpowered like 3x powered USB ports that'll charge
things faster um just make sure you don't totally
exceed the amount of current that's uh supposed to be used to charge
that um join lus fan club what is this
lus fan club that is a bizarre thing sir
um I will create a Facebook profile at some point but um yeah I don't I don't
necessarily think I need a fan club per se that's an awesome security feature
what are your thoughts on sleekbook I haven't heard of sleekbook
unfortunately uh what is the
what you see improved what do you think Kyle what's your favorite junk food my
favorite junk food um Lindor chocolates
I love Lindor chocolates I'm a total girl when it comes to Lindor chocolates
rephrase says did you know that raising a baby costs $80,000 okay I mean that's
sort of an arbitrary number especially because anyone starting raising a baby
now will still be raising a baby 18 years from now which means that those
numbers will be totally irrelevant because of inflation and whatever else
but yeah that's cool okay uh Michael VA
or PLS PLS for sure so PLS is actually closer in terms of the technology to IPS
than it is to a PVA or MVA however I was
just made aware today of a new VA it's
going to be called ha vaa or something like that you know what I'm going to
have to look this up but uh google.ca
haava panel no no that might not be it
uh Ben Q
Ava hva shoot I'm I'm I'm boned I can't
figure it out so so BenQ has a new monitor coming that's using a new panel
type that is not a PLS it's not an IPS
but it's similar in technology and they're super excited it's going to have
100% srgb color gamut it's going to have
a 178° viewing angle so the spec looks
very similar to can be achieved with PLS but right now based on what's actually
available at this moment I'm a huge PLS guy I love
PLS um Colin don't worry nothing happens to your warranty on 660ti Plat power
Edition nothing happens MSI will still deal with
it okay when can we expect something something what do you think of okay ye
wants to know what do you think of the future of LGA 2011 after Ivy bridg will
a new socket be introduced for Haswell e right now I don't think anyone knows for
those of you who don't have the context for this question um LGA 2011 is now two
generations behind LGA 1155 in terms of
the CPU architecture it is still using Sandy bridge- e for I don't know
Enthusiast workstation whatever e stands for so Sandy Bridge has been wait hold
on Sandy Bridge no sorry it's one generation behind and once Haswell
Launches on LGA 1155 it will be two Generations behind so by the time it
gets a refresh it'll be two behind so what does that mean so it means that in
terms of instruction per clock it is behind so single threaded performance is
actually lower on LGA 2011 than it is on 1155 in spite of 2011 being the
Enthusiast platform
okay are enthusiasts happy about this I don't know uh personally as a 2011 user
I wish I had an IV Bridge uh processor to drop in my system I wish that I you
know had Haswell e to go into my system
so that's the disadvantage of 2011 is we seem to be getting a bit of a short
straw in terms of upgrades um however the advantage of
2011 is that it's getting a much more advanced so much more robust overall
architecture so 2011 when Ivy Bridge
gets its refresh so right now okay so we had Sandy bridge and Sandy Bridge e LGA
2011 LGA 1155 then we got Ivy bridge
then then on 1155 this is 1155 we're going to get Haswell so Intel will have
gone through two architectural changes then we're going to get Ivy Bridge e
which will be sort of caught up but still a generation behind however LGA
1155 will not have more than four cores Intel's already said this they won't get
more than four cores 2011 already has six cores if you're like me you render a
lot of video six cores there's actually more important than a few more
instructions per clock okay so once we get once we get
Ivy Bridge e we're going to get anywhere from 10 to 12 cores and these will be
high performance cores because there's no need to have a GPU Core built in as
for what happens in the future I hope we'll get Haswell but honestly I kind of
doubt it however looking back at LGA 1366 so remember 1366 lasted
throughout part of 775 you know 775 was still there on the
low end when 1366 was a premium platform lasted through
1156 and was still relevant once we moved to 1155 if I recall correctly
although I could be getting that mix either way 1366 lasted for multiple
mainstream sockets and there's no reason to believe that LGA 2011 won't last
through multiple mainstream sockets it's got all those pins um worst case
scenario they might do a chipset refresh or something like that but they probably
won't change the socket and um I guess basically I don't really
know Nick says can I have a shout out
please okay Nick you are
shouted um Raz wants to know can you please tell me what should be the
maximum temperature for overclocking a video card Raz there isn't really a maximum temperature it depends on the
card so unfortunately it's one of those questions that I know you've tweeted
this at me a few times but I don't really have an answer most modern cards
are good up to 90 95 degrees um and they're actually designed to run like
that however you can see what Intel and AMD have been doing with the last couple
Generations improving the power efficiency and improving the
temperatures that they're probably not trying to have their gpus run so hot
anymore thank you Matt I'm doing well and I hope you are doing well as well ah
yes air great question this is one of the other topics that I wanted to launch
into so we're going to go ahead and do that now why is quad SLI a terrible idea
for a gaming machine and I should clarify oops amir's question is actually
not as terrible so he wants to know would you recommend two GTX 690s or four
GTX 680s for extreme benchmarking easy
answer for GTX 680s the reason for that is they overclock better than 690s
although that's not as true anymore so you'd have to find ones that overvolt
um along the lines of that green light topic we were talking about
earlier um and just the fact that in terms of thermals you will be less
limited because you can use better cooling on them by having them
separated now forget extreme benchmarking I have a lot of people ask
me about anything beyond two-way SLI so
three-way SLI four-way SLI they'll say hey is this a good deal good idea should
I get uh should I get dual 690s should I
get uh should I get quad 680s or triple
680s or what whatever else okay so few things so number one power consumption
is going to go through the roof number two the actual effici like the actual
performance you gain I did a great video about this the actual performance you
gain from three-way SLI oh shoot there
we go 3-way SLI Linus let's try
searching for that here so the actual performance you gain from 3way SLI from
2way SLI is actually very small you guys should check out this video that I did a
while back so this was GTX 690 versus
3-way 670 and yeah you should definitely
check that out it's it's kind of an analysis of the scaling of these gpus as
well you don't get much in terms of performance now if you go okay lonus I
don't care money is no object for me it doesn't matter I am willing to blow this
money on these gpus I want to have a great gaming experience I want the
maximum FPS to which I would reply wrong
you're wrong that's not what you want you do not just want maximum FPS there
is more to gaming there is more to a high-end system than throwing more
graphics cards into it so I see people
um and dual 690s I guess is less ridiculous than triple and quadruple
cards for this reason we've only got seven expansions
slot on even your highest end board
something like an ASRock extreme 11 uh where they actually manage to implement
Seven slots on a 2011 board that's your best case scenario if you install three
graphics cards never mind four where there'll be absolutely no slots left if
you install three graphics cards on most
motherboards you'll have no slots left over or you'll have like a PCI slot or
something stupid due to the way that they do the slot layouts if you have
four graphics cards you will have none so let's assume you have n where's your
sound card where is your raid card where
is your anything your HDMI capture card for
streaming your gaming or your G for casting or whatever else most
importantly where is your sound card anyone who thinks that sound is not an
important aspect of gaming and is willing to compromise on the sound
experience use their onboard sound instead
of or is willing to use that for the
pleasure of putting in another graphics card to get another 10% 15% maybe 20%
performance Improvement is just wrong you're wrong because a huge part of a
cinematic experience whether it's movies or games a huge part of your immersion
is the sound experience why do you enjoy the movie theater why did you I mean
let's okay not even today where we've got digital production and great screens
in most movie theaters let's go back to years ago when most movie theaters had
like little pops and circles and sort of artifacts all over the screen were you
going there to see the movie big yes were you going there to see the movie on
like this pristine crystal clear screen no you were going there to get
absolutely rocked by their 20.2 surround system with huge
subwoofers because it makes for a more IM immersive experience there is more to
life than more graphics cards and more Gamers need to realize this I've
actually made a point of retweeting some of the tweets people have sent me lonus
you talked me into buying a sound card holy crap I can't believe I ever
listened to those people who said that a sound card doesn't make a difference get
a real sound card get a proper headset
get proper speakers you will thank me do
not buy more graphics cards two graphics cards is pretty much enough here's
another reason so people might respond to me lonus I need more graphics cards
because I'm going to run six monitors or I'm going to run I'm going to run three
super high resolution displays wrong again the reason for that is that in SLI
the graphics cards actually don't build
on each other's memory if you have two 2 gig graphics cards you have two gigs of
vram effectively if you have two 3 gig graphics cards you have three
gigs of Graphics memory that is actually usable by your system if you have four 3
gig graphics cards I know I'm emphasizing this a lot you have 3 gigs
of address Graphics memory which means that by the time you got to a resolution
that would benefit from all these additional graphics cards in any meaningful way you're going to run out
of vram oh which brings me back to actually 680 quad SLI versus 690 SLI so
that's right that's why 69 I forgot right so 680 quad SLI or triple SLI is
terrible because you lose all of your expandability for your system fantastic
and then quad SLI with 690s is terrible
because you have a 2 gig frame buffer way to go with your 2 gig frame buffer
which is not useful for anything higher than about 2560 x600 single display
you're not going to be using a 2 gig frame buffer to get an optimal
experience on Triple displays you'd probably be better off going with like
dual 67 all right like dual 660 Ti 3
gigs or something like that actually no that's probably not fair I mean dual
6804 gigs or something along those lines May actually be a better solution than
290s because of the limited vrm so there
that's my lecture on trip SLI quad SLI
and all those kinds of solutions that for 99.9% of people who aren't trying to
do what whoopsy daisies where's my uh
where's my Twitter there we go who aren't trying to do what Air's talking about where you're just trying to set a
benchmark record it doesn't make sense all right so now that I've done
another topic why don't we do a little bit more uh why don't we do a little bit
more conversation sidarth I actually don't know of a mechanical keyboard with
blue or brown switches that has a backl I think uh ducky might have something
but it's nothing that I've uh that I've ever actually used so I'm sorry I got
nothing I got
nothing H this is funny uh Alex great
suggestion actually this is planned Alex writes in can you do a giveaway where we
have to make a nerd rage video and you judge them and pick the best one I
haven't announced this in any way so this live stream will be the first time
anyone's hearing about this but Corsair is actually sponsoring a contest I'm
going to have five k90 keyboards so
these are like 100 plus dollar mechanical keyboards backlights macros
the whole works cherry red switches I'm
going to have five of them to give away to the five best nerd rage videos
however don't start working on your video now I can't emphasize this enough
I'm going to have rules and requirements
there have been fantastic videos that have been submitted for my video
response contest in the past that have been disqualified because they didn't
listen to the requirements okay you're going to have to pay special close
attention to what will be the judging requirements and I don't want to hear
any complaining if you don't win because you didn't participate correctly however
that giveaway is coming probably I'll have a video up sometime in the next
couple weeks so that's uh that's very exciting um um CW any faults about the
Nexus 7 Nexus 7 is a fantastic value have you guys heard about the price drop
that's coming it's going to be $199 for the 16 gig and they're introducing a 32
gig holy crap like it makes it like the best value ever it has a teger 3
processor which is actually fast on like well Egra 2 was not that fast GPU wise
it was pretty good but um CPU wise honestly my Galaxy Tab 10.1 is kind of
not not generating a great user experience for me these days
um thank you Caleb his his name was big
something what else we got here Dale I
get a lot of questions about this what power supply would you recommend this is
sort of the general question so I'm going to answer Dale's specific question
when I'm sing GTX 660 Ti I have three
200 MIM fans and maybe of course our h100 or 150 Dale you haven't given me
nearly enough information if I'd read your entire tweet before I started
reading it out loud I probably wouldn't have responded to this question because
the information you're giving me is totally useless I know you have two 660
Ti which means you need at least a 700 750 wat power supply however you haven't
told me what CPU you have you haven't told me um well anything else like are
you running 10 hard drives in here are you going to have a whole bunch of different powered peripherals running
off the back of the USB are you going to have are you going to be overclocking um
fans consume like nothing people who tell me like who ask me what power
supply do I need and they tell me all the fans they're running in their system I'm like all those fans maybe like two
Watts out of your power supply totally irrelevant totally doesn't matter um
same thing with a course h100 um it doesn't really consume a significant
amount of power so shout out to sou America I almost said South Africa shout
out to that too but you know um hesu says why do people mistake
earphones for headphones in vice versa I just wanted to get that point out there
because it's annoying okay hu 27 2 new
interactions you guys are killing me here you know what I'm going to actually
I'm going to launch into a new a new topic here because 272 interactions is a
fantastic point so we are going to run through the math of why I cannot reply
to every Twitter message I get since I started running the contest I have
received more than 1,000 Twitter messages per day Twitter
actually has a hard limit of 1,000 tweets that I can send out per day so
that means if I sat there and typed at my computer and literally replied to a
thousand messages I would actually get
my account like I've run into it a few times in the last week they will just
say you have reached your Tweet limit you cannot tweet
anymore okay aside from that they split
up that thousand tweet limit into time
chunks throughout the day so you can only do like a 100 at a time and you
have to spread it out through the day so I don't even have the option of like
lying in bed with my laptop and typing like this or sitting down and like
hammering them away and trying to get caught up because Twitter is going to
get after me after I do 100 tweets or so and say hey oh no it's okay wait a few
hours and then you can tweet some more so um for those of you who are who
are upset that I wasn't able to reply to you or you're tweeting me and I'm not
responding to you you know what I'm going to do my best that's all I can do
when I have some time I'm going to fire up my phone I'm going to fire up my laptop I'm going to I'm going to hammer
out some tweets um but beyond that there's just nothing I can do the sheer
volume of messages I reive like guys think about this okay go and read a
tweet and then like reply to it and then
yourself now times a thousand every day
I have a full-time job I have these videos I have a live stream when I do a
live stream it's going to completely wipe out my place where I was and it's
going to absolutely destroy any progress I could have possibly made at catching
up because in this live stream alone I've already received well over 600
tweets so so I'm sorry guys I do my best
it's all I can do it is not mathematically possible for me to reply
to the tweets and that doesn't even get into the point that once I reply to a
tweet that person usually tweets me back which means that what was a thousand
tweets once I reply to them is probably going to turn into more like 1500 once I
have to reply a second time and then maybe even let's say half of those
people again reply to me again so now every thousand tweets is actually
probably more like 1,700 tweets by the time I'm actually done addressing the
person's question so this this is why I think I need a forum this is why I think
I need a way for you guys to interact with each other and not just me because
I will die um speaking of which Twitter I mean if you guys want to sort of find
anything at Linus Tech and throw in your own answers that would be great that
would actually be immensely helpful for me because I can't reply to them all on
my own all right what else we got here tiny
the boss says hey lonus how come you haven't posted a pick of your kid sitting in front of a PC yet I actually
have taken one but uh you're right I haven't posted one yet I'll see if I can
find it um I'm not sure if I know where it is because my my wife keeps track of
all the baby pictures and all that um new says what do you think of the GTX
660 because I'm trying to build a gaming machine that isn't that expensive GTX
660 is a good option so is 7870 you should look into both of those uh Nick
says I saw the ASUS VG to you know what I'm not going to read the tweets I'm
just going to do this why am I doing this um editing looks great What program
does diesel use diesel uses Adobe CS6 so
everything you saw done previously by myself or by Slick was done using Vegas
um movie studio or whatever the cheap $100 option is cu I'm super cheap um so
he's using a real editing software that he he brought his own copy of and uh
that is one of the reasons that the NC Tech tips episodes have had a higher
standard of quality he's Al he also knows how to use After Effects which is
like voodoo magic to me so Phil great
question there's really that nothing that's special about a 3960x compared to
a 3930k uh it used to be that the extreme Edition was somewhat
justifiable uh because it was unlocked so you could break benchmarking records
and if you like really wanted sort of the the epen of having an extreme
Edition then that was cool but a 3930k has a little bit less cach a little bit
lower stock clock speed and other than that it actually overclocks exactly the
same so we're talking performance within like 1% 2% of each other once you
overclock them both to the max so um I've never recommended a 3960x to anyone
uh people do buy them I mean people buy them it's sort of it's cool um yeah I
mean go for it you want to be extreme buy an extreme Edition but um yeah it's
not something that I've ever really recommended uh can you talk about micro
stuttering you know what I can't talk about micro stuttering I don't see
it um micro stuttering is one of those things that bothers some people a lot
more than it bothers other people it's like motion motion blur drives me nuts
on monitors lots of people can't see it at all
so um Eric if I had to would I rather
fight one horse sized duck or a hundred
duck-sized
horses I think I could take the horses because I'm a lot taller than them and
if they're the size of a duck I mean all they'd really be able to do is kick me
in the ankles I've actually been kicked by a horse before and before the obvious
joke that explains a lot table slapping you know that's a
knee slapping joke right there um before you make that joke it was a baby horse
well not a baby she was a couple months old but um my my family we lived in The
Boondocks and we had we had ostriches and pigs and horses and all kinds of
crazy stuff but uh we had a baby horse so so one of our horses we uh we bred
her and she her baby's name was Trixie and um Trixie and I had a little
disagreement once about whether she was going to walk with me or whether she was
was not going to walk with me and she was going to go off on her and do her own thing so I gave her the I gave her
the business if you guys have horses you know you give them a little you pull
down on their on their halter you kind of go look no you get them to bring
their head down the head down is a submissive posture for a horse so you're
forcing them a little bit okay no look you're going to be submissive doesn't matter what you think about this so when
they put their heads up you know rear up that's that's aggressive um okay
so she surprised me and she pulled away
really quickly and then she started doing that whole like Bronco
like up and down and up and down thing and she was you know going up on her
front legs and kicking her back legs out behind her and she actually nailed me
right in the head so um she got me right
about here and there's I'm lucky I'm lucky there's no scar because it did
bleed she got me pretty good I actually this is one of the uh two times in my
life that I have that I have seen my entire Vision just like I'm going to
simulate it I've seen my Vision just start to okay wow look this thing
whatever it starts to go wow this thing gets light even if I cover it completely
okay whatever that's the only two times in my life that my vision has actually
gone okay come on focus focus focus you
got this that my there we go that my vision has gone
black so one of them was when I had blood drawn from me when I was super
super sick and I just about passed out on top of the nurse and um
accidentally of course and then the other time was when I got kicked by this
horse so what happened was I was like I was standing on my feet she kicked me in
the head I blacked out and then I came
to in time to hit the ground and luckily
I wasn't hurt but man was I ever mad so
uh basically she got the old you know grabbed her again no pull down gave her
the old smack on smack on the butt no you're not allowed to do that she seemed
sort of genuinely sorry about it but you can never tell with horses they're a uh
they're a crafty Bunch um so yeah that's
uh that's that's my story about fighting horses and the time that I got uh got
kicked in the head by a horse uh Lyndon someone's already asked
that sorry dude uh they're they're lower grade panels so they're cheaper there
you go and a the suggestions to use uh here
the suggestions to use Facebook instead of Twitter in order to get around the
limit it's like guys the point is I can't reply to a thousand plus messages
a day not so much just the physical impossibility of it but the fact that I
just can't do it um it's just not it's just not not not
possible um Christian I have a question why will the number pad on my Razor Naga
not work uh there's a switch on the bottom Christian in all likelihood you
have it switched to the wrong thing so that would be my guess I could be wrong though um I mean
there's always the crazy thought you could contact Razer and see if they have any thoughts about it it's possible it's
defective so they'd be the best ones to talk to about something like that
uh noua wants to know what would I recommend isus Sabertooth z77 or the new
motherboard from MSI the Big Bang Empower um honestly either of them are
great options so ASUS backs it up with a 5-year warranty which is cool awesome
and then MSI has a three-year warranty but they're hand testing every single
board in an overclocked scenario so I
don't know you decide which of those two things is more important to you and then
like go for it they're both absolutely fantastic options
all
right Brandon there we go fantastic question
when does a motherboard really affect
with an a Brandon really affect
performance uh the answer is sort of complicated so there's a lot of ways
that a motherboard can affect performance so in terms of the features
that it delivers so uh ausis implementation of USB 3 for example as
far as I can tell is superior to what I've seen from other guys you'll get
faster performance regardless of you know which here I'm going to see if I've
got one in my pocket you know regardless of which usb3 device you're using or
whatever the case may be you will get better performance uh from an ASUS
chipset uh or from an ASUS board using their as media chipset and their um uasp
or their Turbo Modes so that's one of the ways a motherboard can affect
performance um it can affect performance in terms of just what features it has
enabled so if you want to run dual Graphics SLI Crossfire you better get a
motherboard that supports it otherwise you won't get that performance because
you can't install those things so there's that it can affect overclocking
which means like if you have a better power delivery system it runs cooler uh
you're going to get slightly better overclocking results um BIOS
optimization is another way that the motherboard can affect performance and
overclocking so um the better they
program the BIOS the better the power delivery is the better it is however
it's not the way it used to be it used to be back in the socket 478 days back
in the socket a days that you could actually like run gaming benchmarks on
one motherboard versus another motherboard and you might see a 10% spread in terms of performance which
these days totally unheard of it doesn't happen anymore um at at the same speed
at the same frequency that's what I'm talking about and that was because of
the way that the manufacturers were um
designing the board I mean they were they were doing so much more work at the
BIOS level because they had to optimize for the communication from the FSB
between the over the FSB between the CPU and the chipset and then from the
chipset to everything else including the RAM the second that the integrated
memory controller came along with the Athlon 64 the second that the memory
controller was taken off the chipset all of a sudden um there was less
differentiation in terms of performance because there was nothing the motherboard manufacturers could really
do besides routing the traces really cleanly to the memory banks that would
affect the way that the performance was going to play out because it was no
longer being relayed by anything there was no like tweaking they could do to
this chipset there's just this integrated memory controller it's built right into the CPU so there's that um
and I mean even then though you know PCI Express AGP these were features that
could differentiate boards you know better implement of the graphics ports
um was something whereas now especially on the Intel platform even PCI Express
Lanes are implemented at the CPU level
so what's not implemented at the CPU level now there's a few things so
there's usb3 which is on the South Bridge there's SATA which is on the sth
bridge um so really anything that's built into
the CPU there's not much the motherboard manufacturers can do about it besides
helping you tweak more overclocking speed out of it
everything else now okay so yeah onboard Graphics was another way that
motherboard manufacturers could differentiate now that's built onto the CPU
too so really there's not uh there's not
a whole lot left they can build in uh you know things like SAS functionality
like gigabyt sun with the X x79 S5
things like Thunderbolt so connectivity more usb3 ports better usb3
implementations better sound implementation such as A's done with the
Maximus 5 formula uh these are the ways that these motherboard guys can really
differentiate from each other but in terms of performance you sit down you
play a game performance there's not much of a Delta
anymore um oh dude do you have do you have to
have that Twitter name it's like I I hardly even want to reply to your
message but what reason would make you end your YouTube career um good question
I guess I haven't really thought about it I have zero intention of stopping uh
making videos on YouTube if anything I feel rejuvenated these days because it
was uh it was a huge milestone for me to
hit that like just huge I cannot express
how awesome it was to hit that 200,000 subscriber Milestone I mean back when I
started doing this um I I would look at
guys with 50,000 subscribers or 100,000 subscribers and I'd be like wow that is
amazing if I can ever get there I will be so grateful and I'll be so happy and
um and I and I'm there now and I mean now I'm I'm looking for the next I'm
looking for the next level I'm looking for 500,000 I'm looking for a million I
mean it's always about taking it to the next level and um it was it was just
really exciting to get to one of those Milestones that I'd really set for
myself uh one of the first Milestones that got me really excited was the day
that this goes back to Logan because I think he was still on the project at the
time but the day that I passed Tiger Direct blog for the number of
subscribers as well they've still got more views by a long shot but uh but
it's it's it's it's fun it's friendly competition I mean I have nothing against any of those other YouTube guys
it's just it it's kind of fun to to play that game so speaking of that game one
of the things that's also rejuvenated me lately is check this out so since I hit
that 200,000 subscriber Mark not only has it not slowed down so
this is social blade I know this isn't the best one vid stats X is sort of
better but this gives me I'm just used to the interface here so check this out
guys so before I hit the 200,000 subscriber Mark so you can see here this
is my total number of subscribers in this column I was averaging kind of 300
subscribers a day this is an anomaly I think YouTube was doing a correction
when I hit that Mark all of a sudden whether it's people spreading the word
more whether it's you guys supporting me and uh you know telling your friends to
subscribe to L's Tech tips whether it's people who just see that 200,000 number
and it feels more credible to them or uh whatever has happened over the last
little while I've been absolutely overwhelmed with the additional support
I'm averaging more like a growth rate of 400 450 per day
which is gives me all the encouragement that I need to keep the project going no
M no matter what so I want to keep talking Tech with you guys I want to keep producing videos in fact who knows
maybe sometime in the next few months you might see me even ramp things up to
a completely new level spoiler alert
stay tuned I can't give any more details than that right now so don't even
ask um what do we got let's go back to
let's go back to Twitter shall we actually you know what no we're not
going to go back to Twitter yet I'm going to have a look and see if there's any of the other topics that I wanted to
cover so why four-way s is a bad idea ah
this this is something where I actually don't have the answer for you guys but
this is the most confusing thing in the world to me so we're going to go on a
little Voyage of Discovery here and I'm going to talk about what exactly is the
cost structure of displays so I will
back I'll be back I'll be back in like two seconds I just have to go get something
all right so the prices of displays what
sort of prompted me to think about this was the fact that one of my buddies
pointed out to me that he saw a 40in
TV that was in the neighborhood of like
400 or 450 bucks 1080p TV you know what
I'm going to see if I can find it um
1080P and then uh TV sorry I'm just I'm
I'm checking on the NC website here it is okay so 40in TV I'm just going to
copy this too okay maybe you guys can help me figure this out because frankly
I don't get it so we're going to switch to this view here we're going to go
ahead and we're going to pull up a 40in TV okay
paste okay here's a 40in TV Toshiba LCD
TV I can tell you right now there's no such thing as a TN panel TV so this is
some kind of a VA or something it's not a TN panel it is
$400 a 40in TV is
$400 okay so why is it that a 40-in TV
at 1080p resolution okay bear with me here going to go on
sort of a wild ride here why is it that a 40in TV at a 1080p resolution costs
more than a 1080p oh oh o I'm breaking
everything 1080p LCD VA so let's look for let's
look for a VA panel okay so here's a 27
inch that's an amva LED backl okay it's
got LED backlights whatever so why does it cost more I can tell you the answer
it's much larger
okay got it so larger costs
more actually where was I going with this something to do with large and
pixel density and something something something right right right right right okay so a much larger TV costs more okay
so now let's let's scale things back down again and let's look at uh let's
look at pixel density so when we get to pixel density all of a sudden the
smaller something is the more it costs
because it's more difficult to manufacture so tell me something if a
bigger device that inherently has lower pixel
density and a smaller device this monitor I showed you guys before this is
like in the same price range it's on super discount now but generally speaking it's a $400 so if these two
things cost the same thing in cost the same in spite of the same resolution why
is it that this
device which actually is a 10-in panel
so in terms of the actual size difference it's like a similar ratio
going from like a 40in TV to a 27 in LCD
why is it that this doesn't cost the
same even though the pixel density is actually significantly higher this is also a 1080p panel if I recall correctly
this is a Transformer TF700 so here's my question to you what
is actually affecting how is it that we can produce a 40-in TV which is vastly
bigger for the same price as this
LCD and we can't produce you know what I
had a whole thing sort of in my mind about this and I've sort just totally
lost my train of thought so I'm going to give up on this topic but the point is
generally what affects it is it size is it pixel density I can't quite figure it
out because it doesn't seem to it doesn't seem like the cost scales
proportionally when we increase the size and then it doesn't seem like the cost
scales proportionally when we decrease
the pixel density or increase the pixel density or whatever else the case may be
I mean did you know that iPad Retina Display replacement IPS panels actually
only cost like a 100 bucks if you buy them from um I don't know it's like
laptop repair or screen repair or something.com I give up on this topic
I'm sorry it's actually getting kind of late and I'm kind of tired so we're going to move into something else and
this is something that I really did want to talk about Paul's Hardware and awesome sauce news
are two new YouTube channels that you guys should totally subscribe to if
you're not already subscribed to raise the world so I'm going to just uh I'm
going to bring up all of these YouTube channels do here and raise the
world okay so this is one of them so
this is Logan's channel from Tech Syndicate so he's actually growing
pretty fast and uh things are going pretty well over there awesome sauce
news is uh from that horrible horrible store in the
US so he's uh he's doing he's doing his
own sort of vloggy style videos and then I wish him well but I think he's only
got like a 100 subscribers or something like that see there he is look how sexy
he is okay and then finally we have
actually this one I haven't seen what Paul's up to but Paul's Hardware is
another channel that you guys probably want to check out if you enjoy what I'm doing then uh you're probably going to
enjoy what what these guys are doing here so Paul only has one video he's
already produced only half as many videos as Kyle so yeah way to go way to
go Paul I hope you're watching wow look at this 43 dislikes and zero dislikes Ju
Just for that I'm gonna I'm going to like the video so he now has I don't
know Bank shirt with your friends I've actually never liked a video on YouTube
to be perfectly honest I'm not much of a YouTube Watcher I'm just more of a
YouTube maker uh what other topics do we have
ah yes I've had a lot of people ask me
about my new gear that's coming so if
you're not familiar with my new gear conversation I blew over 10 grand on New
Gear so I have an fs700 camera coming which is going to be awesome we'll be
able to shoot video realistically at 240
FPS if we need something extremely
extremely high speed it can do up to 960
FPS and here's like a like just I have all these ideas in my head of stuff we
can do with this like all of a sudden we'll be able to empirically evaluate
the performance in terms of input leg on an LCD monitor because all we'll have to
do is take a microphone put it next to a mouse and go like this hit it so you
take a video of the LCD monitor and I guess you
could you could put the mouse in there as well and then all you have to do is
sync up with the sound it made when you tapped the mouse and you'll have to have
the microphone like right next to it we don't want the delay of the sound causing any ill effects actually you
know what you should probably keep the mouse in the shot so you can really see
that point of contact and we should be able to in
theory get down to the exact frame at
960 FPS okay 960 FPS the exact frame
where we touched the mouse then we can count how many frames until the monitor
responds and I don't know if this is going to work maybe it's totally stupid
maybe 960 FPS isn't enough but I'm super excited to try it out so I'm think if we
have like a CRT on one side and an LCD on the other side we can just try it and
see like how much if we take like ASUS's
144 Herz CCD and put that next to a CRT
how much of a difference is there are the CRT die hards missing out by
avoiding LCD or are they still right is it still the fastest way to game so so
that's something that's super exciting so my new gear is coming next
week so I've got H to my capture cards coming which means I won't have to use
this webcam anymore I've got uh new microphone coming I've got a new tripod
coming new lights all kinds of crazy stuff so I'm not going to look all pale
and ghostly like this unless I do look pale and ghostly like this in which case
um you know sorry dudes um that means I just don't know how to use this gear
that I you know blew a bunch of money on which would be a very sad thing indeed
very sad thing indeed 247 new interactions okay so we're going
to try and do uh a little a couple a couple more q&as and then I think oh you
know what but before we do more Q&A let's do the giveaway announcement and
then we'll we'll finish up with a little bit of Q&A so I received and I've got my
notes here you know what I'll just let you guys go through the notes uh go
through the notes with me so first I want to say the winner and I hope you're
watching I was I my original plan was to
have it be so that only someone who was watching could win but I realized you
know what that's not really fair I mean anyone who does a draw does a draw and
then you get in touch with the person who won um uh before I okay before I
announce the winner I want to talk a little bit about the format of the contest the format of the contest was
wrong um my original idea was that the
first one to complete the task should win however I made some mistakes in the
task that made it so I couldn't really do it that way so I required people to
format and punctuate the secret phrase
which they had to jump around to different videos and check out and and
discover and then unjumble so the secret phrase I had them format I wanted them
to format it it exactly the way I did unfortunately I formatted it incorrectly
so the secret phrase was I finished the quest where's my swag and I had a period
on the word Quest and I was missing a question mark on the word swag what I
also didn't realize when I was creating the challenge was that I finished my
quest where's the swag would also be a
correct way way to solve the puzzle so
instead of taking the first person who replied exactly the way that I had it
written which took I mean there were over a hundred
correct sort of correct like not what I had in mind but correct responses where
they added a question mark or they they switched around theth and the my uh
before the one who formatted it the way that I had wanted in my head for it to
be formatted and I didn't think it was fair to do it that way so what I did is
I took all the people that did answer it correctly I dropped them all in Excel
and then generated a random number and the winner is can I get a drum roll can
everybody drum roll please Bernard Yip so that's your email
address I'll email you if you're okay okay we have to go okay we have to go to
Twitter though so there's some notes here I'm going to go to Twitter after Bernard if you're on Twitter please
message me or or email me again I can have a look at my email on the other
screen let me know if you're watching I hope you're watching and I hope you're
excited because you are going to be the proud owner of VOR GTX 660
TI and the shipping's free don't worry about it I'll cover the shipping even
though it's expensive do you guys have any idea how much it cost me to ship the
Duke Nukem uh the Duke Nukem NVIDIA
prize which was a GTX 580 I think 480
something like that 580 uh 3D Vision Monitor and a copy of Duke
Nukem $500 it cost to ship that to the winner
$500 unfreaking believable um so anyway
okay I'm going to have a look at my email over here and uh in the meantime
so yeah okay these were all my notes for everything I wanted to talk about so I
accepted any of those answers so with or
without punctuation um and with theth and the my switched around I did end up
requiring the period because there were already so many people that did have the
period in there that um that yeah it it
ended up having to work that way now the way that I'm going to do it next time in
order to make it more fair especially for people in other time zones I feel
for you guys is I am going to leave it for a couple days maybe two or three
days I might have a longer treasure hunt so that it's more difficult but then
what I'll do is I'll give you guys a couple days and then I'll have everyone
submit and then I will do a random draw and I'll make that very clear from the
beginning I'm sorry that this wasn't better organized and uh yeah so so you
know hey congratulations to the winner and I don't see an email from him yet
but um you know hopefully he'll get in touch soon and thank you guys
so much for participating it's just been
awesome and uh I think that wraps it up for the giveaway we've got six minutes
left so let's do some more Q&A and that is the most terrifying thing that I
think I've seen today that that is that is horrible dude he says I think I've
made the best T-shirt ever and by best T-shirt I think he means the t-shirt
that will like get him kicked out of places that's awful
um that's just I'm I'm going to go ahead and favorite that that's
terrific all right Daniel talk about non-reference graphics cards and fully
custom liquid cooling what happened to personal x79 build uh Daniel I had an
update on the x79 build not a week ago so I'm still working on it I'm hoping to
get it done in this calendar year um talking about non-reference graphics
cards and fully custom liquid cooling unless you have a manufacturer in mind
that has already made a water block for your non-reference card if you want to
water cool your card get a reference card because it's very different
difficult these days to water cool a video card without a full cover block
and full cover blocks do not work on non
compatible cards so it just doesn't work that way
estaban what would you recommend Gigabyte x79 S5 Wi-Fi or whatever or
whatever okay or ASRock x79 extreme 9
x79 S5 that I mean asking me that is
kind of like asking me what would you recommend the motherboard that you're
using that you're using which is that's the motherboard I'm using or some other
motherboard um ASRock is not one of my preferred motherboard
manufacturers so I I prefer isus MSI and
Gigabyte so I would definitely go with the Gigabyte option there Marcus if you
were to build an LG 1155 PC today what motherboard and CPU would you choose you
know what great question but there's a lot of different answers and I'm going
to tie this into what one of the other guys here asked I saw something about uh
talking about ITX gaming um if I was
going to build an lg1155 PC I would want to take advantage of the fact that it
can fit in a very small form factor so I'd probably go with something like an
ASUS p8 z77 I uh Deluxe okay so that's a
z77 ITX board um then I'd go with
something like an external sound card like U oh you know what I don't have it
next to me anymore so you can't use the onboard sound on that it's terrible but
well it's not terrible but it's not it's onboard sound so I'd used some kind of
external USB DAC and as a headphone amp and all that kind of stuff so I'd do
that and then I'd probably go with a 3570k because I'm assuming this is for
like a portable gaming machine and then I'd throw probably something like a 660
Ti in there so hey Bernard there's my recommendation for what you should do
with this card and then in terms of case I'd probably go with um either that
Cooler Master one that I just unboxed the elite 120 I think it's called or I'd
go with a Silverstone F3 which is sweet sweet case the mini one the mini one F3
Mini Joel what do you like so much about the
tj07 it looks like it's showing its age to me um something that is timeless and
classic doesn't age a tj07 ages like
like a fine wine or like a a perfectly
cut steak um it is showing its age in
terms of features which I can fix I can cut Cable Management holes I can throw
in mounting for whatever it is I need to put in it but you cannot fix beautiful
design and I love the unibody shape um I
love the size the efficiency of the size I mean a Cosmos 2 actually can't fit any
more water cooling crap than a tj07 I mean maybe a little bit more but when
you look at the difference in size it's the efficiency of the layout of the
internals that makes the TGF 7 so appealing you can fit all this water
cooling crap in there and it's still not
that big like it's big but it's not that
big um Ryan is there a sound card you can recommend for a balance between
gaming and music enj honestly anything from the ASUS line the Zonar line is
going to be awesome um if you're using headphones get one with a headphone amp
if you're using speakers get one that doesn't have a headphone amp because it doesn't matter um and then as for a
balance between gaming and music enjoyment good sound is good sound I've
always taken that philosophy about it maybe to the most extreme of audio files
there will be some difference between a gaming optimized sound card and a music
optimized sound card but the reality of it is if it
produces clear sound you know deep bass
Rich mids clear highs if it does all of those things it'll be great for games
it'll be great for movies and it will be great
for music did I say movies or music whatever all
three all right one more minute left so I am going to take the next tweet the
Tweet that's at the top this is sort of going to be my thing where I take like
the top tweet I'm going to click it now
Michael great question Michael this is a fantastic question why do TVs have 240
HZ plus and not monitors fantastic question Michael TVs are doing this okay
this is your leg this is them pulling it
your 960 Hertz or 480 htz clear motion or
whatever it is they're doing on the TV is not a 960 HZ panel it doesn't work
that way you are not actually seeing 960
or let's use let's use your example so your example is 240 you are not seeing
240 image refreshes every second HTMI is
not even remotely capable of carrying that kind of bandwidth even the new
revised HTMI is not capable of carrying
more than 1080p 120 frames per second um
that's the one with the faster processors on either end and whatever
1.4a or something like that who cares HDMI sucks but
um what they're doing is they are not
just refreshing the image so let's say here's your motion okay so something's
moving across the screen like this these are your frames okay so instead of just
doing this so let's say let's say we got four frames one two three four to show
you the motion in between each of those
frames they are flickering the backlight and that plays a trick on your eye that
makes so if they go two flicks and one
frame two flicks and one frame two flicks one frame it plays a trick with
your eye that makes the motion look smoother but also has sort of a strange
effect that makes it look unnaturally smooth to some people so when you see
someone saying this is a 240 HZ TV or 480 HZ TV they are referring to the
modulation of the back light not to the
refresh rate of the actual LCD panel so
that's a really important clarification that's why there were so many 120 HZ TVs
out there that people were talking about or they wanted to buy or they were even
mistakenly buying with the intention of running 3D Vision or something with
their graphics card getting an in a middleware driver and they're trying to do this only to realize that their 120
HZ TV was only a 60 HZ panel it wasn't
even capable of displaying a left and a right image at 60 HZ for each eye with
3D glasses so fantastic question and uh
thank you very much for asking it thank you guys so much for participating those
of you who are here live and uh don't forget to Subs well okay anyone who's
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chance you'll get through and what I really need is like four operators like
kind of out there like filtering these and sending me all the best questions but I'm just one guy right now so um
yeah thanks so much here's two uh you know I wish I had a glass but I'll
settle for uh I'll settle I'll settle for this here's to 200,000 subscribers
and here's to 200,000 more and thank you guys for being with me every step of the
way and good night