Disappointed in AMD - WAN Show Dec. 8 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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live you can tell at the bottom of the screen
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oh boy we um are late
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and for that we are sorry only by 19 minutes only by 19.49 depending on how
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you count it we technically have a new start time five o'clock but
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i don't know if we ever officially announced that Colton changed it uh
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because we were never on time anyway the point is this time
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we were learning while i was learning luke was showing me
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a different streaming software yeah so this will be the first rant show
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streamed on obs yeah not necessarily because we think obs is
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unequivocally better than xsplit no
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uh which it isn't um but because xsplit has had an utterly
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game breaking bug for us for the last couple of weeks that has made it take
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about half an hour to 45 minutes of extra time after the show to
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de-corruptify the corrupted video output
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and then upload it to youtube so it's been kind of a pain in the arse which has
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mostly resulted in us like downloading the vod off of twitch
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so that we can mess with it which takes a while because it's an hour plus long
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stream sometimes twitch takes a while to process that then you have to download
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which all makes sense which all makes sense and it's fine it's just a pain in
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the butt and we don't want to do that anymore so yeah the WAN Show to be very
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clear there's pros and cons with both on obs but
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yeah now we're doing this um what else do we have this week oh
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yeah rate the news so NVIDIA announced the titan v
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and you can have one for the value price of only three thousand dollars we'll
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talk about what exactly you get for your money AMD and qualcomm joined forces for
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always connected pcs what else we got
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nice hash was breached 64 million dollars of bitcoin was stolen that
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valuation is going to constantly change so there's about 4 700 coins and this is
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in rapid fire actually but damn uh AMD
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silently lowers Radeon rx 560 specs
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start with the interesting news end with the super bad news all right hold on i'm
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updating i'm updating that nice hash number
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uh was 4 700 coins stolen right yeah roughly i think so that is now 76.6
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million because bitcoin has been like
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lately it does that all right let's roll that intro baby
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oh there's no transition
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yeah you like those indicators baby i do
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show me your indicators
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i almost made a very specific way too far joke but no it's cool let's move on
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titan v uh yeah let's talk about the titan v v
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is completely what we're just talking you know what i've got to give NVIDIA a lot of credit
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here for doing the right thing with this graphics card now this was posted by max
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settings okay this is posted by max settings
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on the forum um
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and uh hold on a second and uh the original article here is from anantek i
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think it's kind of neat that max settings shared a post about a
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3 000 graphics card so NVIDIA did the
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right thing here rather than confuse consumers
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by calling their product iphone x but then 10
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NVIDIA called it titan v instead of like
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titan five which incidentally would it is it the
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fifth titan hold on a second now you got the titan you got the titan black i
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think it's going to depend you've got the titan x you've got the titan
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xp and the xp and the xpp so no technically it is the sixth titan now if
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they hadn't screwed up and had both a titan xp which
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was you know what if you count what it actually says on the shroud
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yeah there you go i guess because the titan
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didn't have the black filled in on the titan word the titan
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black did but it was the same same silver shroud
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then wait the titan you'd have four
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which one had the actual black shroud hold on we might be missing one here
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kepler maxwell pasquale
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titan something titan yeah what was the titan what was the titan black just
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tight and black which one actually got yeah let's see let's see a picture though uh which one actually got like a
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black shroud no so it was absolutely the titan x that got a black shroud yes okay
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okay cool so if we ignore
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the one that didn't get a p on the end of it the titan x pascal
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which i basically did ignore so i think i could i could stick with
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that did we make a video for that or did we just rant but on wednesday i don't think we did yeah i don't think we can
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win so if we agree that only graphics
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cards that we do a review video of count
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then this is the fifth titan okay okay that only we do
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we ordered one what a way to yeah i heard yeah wow i uh
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so i reached out to NVIDIA yo are you guys providing review samples of this
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thing and they said
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i'm not surprised at all i'm not even remotely surprised they
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said literally nothing that was the joke um yeah and so i'm kind of sitting here
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going well okay i'm not gonna i'm not gonna wait around and find out titan z
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i don't count the titans either we didn't review it
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okay see this is a very convenient definition
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where if i don't decide that something counts it doesn't count
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this is a fun way to live the world live the world
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live my life it also wasn't a different GPU perceive the world interpret the
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world yeah that's true it was it was two gpus yeah there see mind you titan black
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isn't a different GPU from titan
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i mean it's just it's just black
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and it's not even that much blacker it's just black text so
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yeah my minor details um
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okay so right what do we have to say about the titan v
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last night i i i love that the place they announced it was the nips
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conference because you know
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this is a pretty hot announcement you know but nips
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anyway um so they announced the titan v it has a golden shroud now which is just
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oh beautiful perfect what were they why pick another color thinking like you
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know it was like a few generations ago that i zeus did their golden stuff so
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you can take a few generations old board pair it with your new three thousand
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dollar graphics card that was like pc67 no it's been more recent than that
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no yeah no no ASUS hold on a second ASUS
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goldboard you were making fun of this stuff on the couch at the old house
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you're drunk no no you're drunk yeah but they were old boards by then okay hold
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on where's that here here's one of their stupid gold boards what's it okay z87
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all right all right all right okay z87
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still that's
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how old is that no it's perfect three thousand dollar graphics card that board
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boom put it together best combination i mean what is it is this like uh
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isn't everything kind of going gold these days like is this just because of
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the iphone do i have apple to blame for this a graphic everybody else the entire
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rest of the computer industry is like okay
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fine we give up everything's going to be grayscale so black gray or white and
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we'll put RGB lighting on so everything matches everything else maybe that's why
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actually because a very minor amount i don't like gold but a very am i like i
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don't know i don't like gold jewelry i don't like whatever but a very minor amount of gold accent on something
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that's like blacked out looks pretty sharp a ginormous graphics
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card though is not like a small gold
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actor go with the monochrome computer which is like popular these days and
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then have your black and gold titan
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yeah well what are we actually going to see is there a picture of the backplate uh
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no because you'll only really see the side in the back plate unless you're
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going with like one of those vertical mount systems which was like i'm gonna
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i'm gonna assume it's black i'm gonna assume it's black
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this thing looks so it's probably gonna be just a minor amount of accenting of
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gold on the side that you're actually getting i'm going to have to redo my how to paint your graphics card tutorial
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with the new titan shroud because i can't imagine
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anyone you should be happy with it like real silver paint
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can you get that it's nothing i'm sure that's a thing
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huh sounds like poisonous or something i don't know it probably is all right um
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so anyway what else can we say about this thing silver paint available for
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purchase today three grand so that's almost 4 000 canadian rupees
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um which sucks but like
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realistically so NVIDIA's policy on
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cards that are not intended for gamers is that they don't generally seed them
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to gaming press but gaming press
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wants to know how this thing performs for games
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and other things gamers want to know how this thing performs
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in games so the way that we see it we're kind of
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taking one for the team here we absolutely
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have to get one and run some games on it and see how it goes from there because
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the specs on this thing are ridiculous this is the same GPU as the tesla v100
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which is apparently a ten thousand dollar graphics so really we should all
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stop complaining because you're getting a seven thousand dollar discount
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beautiful no no no no complaints here give me four
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this is targeted at machine learning scientists who want to simply install
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the card in their desktop pcs and not rely on a special server or storage or
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networking so it keeps the titan branding as
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opposed to GeForce titan
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and it'll have massive memory bandwidth yes it's using hbm2 memory 12 12 gigs
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freaking gigs of it that's a lot and it has uh
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was this hbm2 to be clear 110
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it says dl in here but i'm sure that means dual precision um teraflops so
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that's nine times oh deep learning teraflops sorry that's nine times the
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deep learning computing horsepower of its predecessor uh 1455 megahertz boost
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clock this is a massive 815 millimeter
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square die i believe this was the largest of all time
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like single monolithic dye i don't remember if it actually was but it is it
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is very close 80 sms
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did i already say 5 120 cuda cores
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holy crap it's one side for titan v sli
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for compensator uh no no so that's really interesting
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at all um so so this is so the previous titan xp was 3840 cuda cores so this is
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a new architecture this is volta and it has many
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many more cuda cores and uh it has nv link connectors at the top
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but this was actually a developing story right as we were starting the lan show
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uh there's a thread over on the Linux tech tips forum where people are talking
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about this apparently NVIDIA has come out and said it not only does not
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support sli because it doesn't have sli fingers it does not support nd link
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so the fingers are there but envy link is i guess considered to be a data
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center feature and not something that you would need in a single system so
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NVIDIA is coming right out
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and making dual card configurations
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for gaming and then also for
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uh to be clear it doesn't matter how they market this people are going to use
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it for gaming yeah so now dual card configurations will still work for some
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workloads like something like solidworks doesn't require nvlink or an sli
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connector you can just have more gpus in and it'll just use more compute
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um but where the cards need to communicate with each other not having
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envy link will be a disadvantage and for gaming they're just like nope
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you know last generation two generations ago we took away three-way and four-way
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on this stuff now we're taking away two-way this is just one card per system
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boom done wow vapor chamber cooler 16 power phases
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250 watt TDP and uh
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wow it gets the gv100s full unrestricted
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fp64 compute and tensor core performance
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and the only real thing that differentiates it from tesla is memory
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capacity memory bandwidth and the lack of nv-link functionality it uses the
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standard g-force driver stack freakin
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cool huh okay well i'm excited to see how
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this goes and two people will let you know as soon as it arrives there is no
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gaming information at all anywhere on the titan v page this is not like what
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NVIDIA has done in the past where they've gone like titan titan z was a
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perfect example of this where they're like this thing is was it that one three
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grand two i think so titan z was really exciting i think it sounds like three like this thing is thousands of dollars
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because it's a professional product not for gamers and then you'd go on like
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three grand yeah retailer websites you'd go on ncix or newegg or whatever and
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there'd be banner ads using like NVIDIA assets that are like titan z the
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ultimate gaming performance yeah it's like okay
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is it or is it not well this one there is absolutely nothing in there about
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gaming i don't see a single thing that's cool because it's cool because if
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they want this to be the non-gaming thing that they keep on saying that
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they are well original titan was supposed to be yeah
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so this is just kind of coming back to its roots a little bit yeah because it
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strayed pretty hard um all right AMD and qualcomm this was
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posted on the forum by the username the Linus portal i don't know what a Linus
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portal is um i'm gonna try not to be weirded out by it i'm sure it's i'm sure
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it's happening
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um that gets confusing when working on flow plane anyway the original post here was
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from engadget boop AMD and qualcomm join
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forces to power higher end connected
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pcs so they're going up against Intel's e-sim compatible systems
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so in a nutshell
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they're teaming up to make always-connected pcs on AMD's ryzen
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mobile platform using snapdragon lte modems to enable
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gigabit connection speeds
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okay so apparently the pair of the processor and this
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like always connected chip will make it so you can play something like league of
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legends anywhere without wi-fi yeah
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okay i mean this is actually something we were talking about like just last
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week on the lan show yeah yeah i mean more connectivity for these devices that
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now i mean a device like the lg gram the last generation one not the one with the
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8th gen processor that one's battery life is not as much but something like a
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last-gen lg gram is getting nine plus hours
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in like a battery life test and in real usage
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can get well over that like sometimes 10 even 12 hours
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so having a device like that just be able to be connected literally all the
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time is obviously desirable so and you could
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theoretically have a laptop that was more performance it wasn't the
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performance of the laptop that was hampering the game you could play it's
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just this chip in particular that we're talking about so you could get a higher
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end laptop that also has this snapdragon x16 lte modem and would be able to game
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other things just on that powerful system probably gonna be plugged in so
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we have our first all AMD laptop
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like not of all time like i probably at some point like eight years ago of
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modern era like Linus tech tips covered one like i don't remember it though it
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was a long time ago um ASUS sent us over a gaming laptop that's
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got polar a polaris GPU and a ryzen CPU so we're going to be checking that out
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pretty soon cool AMD is finally relevant in laptops again
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or maybe they're not i don't know we haven't tested it yet yeah but there are they got design wins and that's a lot
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more than they could say over the last couple of years
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oh boy so um i lost about 300
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okay okay i'll say that uh the original article here is from reuters
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which i will confess i did not know how this was pronounced until like less than
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a year ago i thought it was like reuters reuters
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and like whenever i heard people say reuters like just kind of
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you know on the periphery i thought they were talking about like steroids
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like i never like reuters that close attention
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that's funny i don't think i've ever attempted to
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pronounce it like with no pre-knowledge yeah
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i heard the name before i read the names yeah well you know what whatever
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i've had enough of you i've had enough of your comments twitch chat which i
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don't even have to look at the twitch chat to know that i'm getting like
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skinned alive over there yeah so
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nice hash which this puts me in a bit of an awkward position because we didn't go
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as far as to recommend it oh i didn't even think about this in our recent
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video part one of our bitcoin slash
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cryptocurrency mining exploration but we did
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show it we did talk about what the service does and it was cool and we were
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using it yeah which means that when they got hacked earlier this
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week we lost about 300 bucks but i'm not
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going to complain because the total amount of money lost
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is tens of millions of dollars the uh the
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headline is 64 million because that's based on what the value was right around
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the time that this news broke but it went up last night was huge
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i believe was it last night or the night before um it was uh yesterday morning or
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like yesterday yesterday your early morning i think it spiked up to like
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1800 or something like that it was crazy i thought it was i was out of shape do
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you mean early morning isn't like two in the morning um
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well i don't know i was at a shoot and it was like
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11 a.m my time 10 a.m my time okay so it was like whenever it was very recent
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that it spiked up and the value of this yeah and even now it's like 10 million
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more about than it was when it first happened so
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this isn't the first time this has happened there's been so in this one in
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particular there's about 4 700 coins stolen bitcoin stolen uh in in all
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there's been 980 000 bitcoins that have been stolen
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from exchanges alone that total is worth more than 15 billion
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dollars at current exchange rates and that is when they calculated it
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before so it's actually worth more now so here's the thing that we should
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probably do because um there's oh right so there's been at
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least three dozen of these thefts on digital currency exchanges since 2011 uh
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including the one that led to the collapse of mount gox which was the
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largest bitcoin exchange at the time
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um so what i'm kind of thinking is
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everyone who wants to get into bitcoin seems to figure out
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how to buy it or how to mine it and then i feel like it's really easy to
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get lazy about the other stuff you want to get into like cold storage how to
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store it how to dump it because the literally
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the only way to be 100 certain that your
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bitcoin will not be vulnerable to a hack
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is to store it completely offline whether that's a hardware wallet yep or
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whether that's a cold computer by that i mean like a computer that's not on a
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network yeah so some people will even go as far as to store handwritten notes in
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safety deposit boxes in traditional banks
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and i think that's really something that is worth discussing because
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a lot of people are going into this whole bitcoin slash altcoin
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cryptocurrency thing thinking that once they google a little
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bit and they find you know who the reputable exchanges are
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or the reputable wallets are uh once they find that they've got the
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equivalent of a bank's type of security
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and then to be clear if banks are not perfect either by the way but in
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traditional finance it's usually if a bank gets
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heisted depends depends how much money is in the account
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for example um yeah no i don't know all the details
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i just know i've had forever ago my like
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debit card got ripped off yeah and a few thousand dollars where the transactions
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went through it and i got my money back pretty quick so that is heavily
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dependent on your account your financial institution you use a credit union which
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back then may have actually been an advantage but maybe no longer is
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we could talk about it more offline anyway the point is people google around
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they find something that looks reputable yeah you know everyone on reddit upvoted
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or whatever else and then they kind of go okay yeah my money is safe there
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but in truth there is so much more to it
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and like as much fun as it is to buy some bitcoin
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at 70 150 is i think what i got in at a little
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while ago and i had all i had i had abstained for the longest time and
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finally i was just like you know what forget it i'm just gonna i'm gonna buy some um
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as much as much fun as it is to look at that and go
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i doubled my money over the last three weeks which i did
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and i'm feeling pretty good about it unless you actually know how to get it
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out and convert it into a fiat currency right now with the volatility of bitcoin
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and for that matter cryptocurrency in general people are going to be pissed
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that we're saying this but like even just looking at at charts and stuff it
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is so it's not even just necessarily volatile because volatile means that it
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dies right no it means it varies okay yeah so it is extremely freaking
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vulnerable it's extremely volatile and to me currency is not currency unless it
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can be exchanged for goods and services and right now
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you cannot buy a car with bitcoin at the local
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dealer there's right yeah there's gonna be like some person yeah there's some
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dealership some dealership somewhere i don't care that is not the point the
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point is that if you wanted it let's say
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let's say i bought um
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a thousand dollars of bitcoin and it went up 10x and all of a sudden i had
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ten thousand dollars i wanted to go to like joe's used auto auto lot or
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whatever and i was like yo i invested a thousand
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dollars in bitcoin i'm gonna buy a car
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i cannot do that unless i cash out today
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so that's what i mean when i say as much fun as it is to have this
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money until you can actually exchange it for goods and services it's just
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paper and i kind of slurred my words there which was funny because i kind of
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said surfaces you could buy surfaces
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whatever you're into cars surfaces razor blades i don't care
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um so i mean is that something that we should be starting to maybe do like a
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maybe make part of that multi-part bitcoin series that i think
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so looking into videos online about this kind of stuff
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one of the least documented processes is wallets and storage of your coins
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and one of the most important parts about it is wallets and storage of your
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coins and when this nice hash thing happens people weren't saying because
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you're talking about the bitcoin community right so people weren't coming at it from the angle you were which is
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like you need to bring it into fiat currencies uh people were going at it
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from the angle of you need to secure your bitcoin people don't understand
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okay lol i'm a ducky is paypal currency
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then or not yes because it's in a real currency it's
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just stored with paypal bitcoin is a real currency and by real i
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mean fiat currency i mean a recognized currency
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so yeah anyway and to be clear on the volatile thing i looked it up it does
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have a negative connotation sure it can have whatever connotation it wants but
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that doesn't change that it's very volatile but it is but it's going up so
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volatile is like apparently not entirely volatile is specifically a negative
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thing okay so erratic in a bad way which it is
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but it has mostly been erratic in a good way yes um except when it's not except
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when it's not which does happen and you might get screwed on a trade because it
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might go but like so far holding has been a very
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good strategy um like someone bought real estate with
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it recently right we actually specifically said that yes someone
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somewhere is taking it but you know there's coffee
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shops that take it there's there's websites that take it uh we're looking
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into trying to take it for Floatplane subscriptions uh it's a thing there's
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there's certain areas there's a cruise that you can go on that you can go on
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that you pay for with bitcoin and i think all the transactions while you're on the cruise are done in bitcoin
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there's some stuff but it would be it's not it's not the norm
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um is what we're trying to say yeah so essentially um
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taking it out of bitcoin putting into usd is a generally safer way to deal
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with it but your usd can still get stolen everything can still get stolen
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that's kind of an important thing to understand but stuff like cold wallets
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holding your storage and offline computers different types of wallets using hardware wallets all this kind of
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stuff isn't as well documented as most other things in the bitcoin world and when
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something like this nice hash thing happens all the smug commenters are going yeah
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well you shouldn't have it in a hardware wallet or an offline wallet and most
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people responding are like what is that how do you do that yeah and
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there there is some resources on it but not a ton
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um yeah yeah well let's uh we'll have a
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look at that we'll we'll figure out a plan i think part two is going to be i
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don't know the more optimized mining machine so
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that's mostly done um we actually would have had the motherboard today but it
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got sent to north carolina for some reason
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yeah long story okay um or connecticut i
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don't know it was a u.s something and it had a c in it so
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okay yeah it was a city or a state and it had a c at the beginning yeah it
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wasn't california i know that much anyway um
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so so we would have had ASUS 19 GPU
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board even though we're not actually going to be using all 19 slots
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so the reason for that get this is in order to run 19 why well bitcoin what do
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you think no i but but even for bitcoin why would you get that board um because
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then you don't have to have more boards and more RAM sticks and more cpus how
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expensive is that for though 200 bucks yeah not too bad yeah so you save your
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because i mean the the cheapest the cheapest CPU is like 40 bucks from Intel
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anyway but are you putting them all next to each other no the way that it works
28:13
is you use uh use extenders
28:16
yeah yeah okay yeah so the slots are it's like this thing's hilarious i'll
28:20
bring it out i haven't seen it the b250 mining expert oh it's literally
28:25
okay i thought you were just buying some like crazy server board i was like dude no no
28:30
no no this is like this is oh wall yeah
28:33
look at this thing it's ridiculous there's all the slots it's like stupid
28:38
um that's amazing so anyway the funny thing
28:42
about it is that in order to actually use all 19
28:45
six of them have to be NVIDIA's gp 106 based mining
28:50
specific card okay exactly six i think
28:53
like the manual for this thing is hilarious because check out these oh my
28:58
god i just saw that so these power like
29:01
different slots and there's like a whole diagram and stuff and then there's like
29:05
this diagram for like what types of cards you can install in
29:09
what ratios in what slots in order to actually populate all 19 of them so
29:13
these guys have to come off the same power supply as this one
29:17
in case you were wondering and don't quote me on that i looked at the manual
29:20
like a couple hours ago actually there's two two RAM slots two RAM slots
29:25
um oh yeah so we've got one of those i'm
29:29
even surprised there's four SATA ports
29:32
uh yeah yeah what would you need that for it i would have expected you got a
29:36
usb 3 header i would have expected two or one yeah
29:40
yeah so so yeah so that's gonna be part two
29:44
uh part three we're gonna take a look at asic miners and then maybe part four
29:47
we'll start to get into storage um how to sell
29:51
uh maybe like a part five it would be cool to take a look at some of the tools
29:56
that people are using like kraken to not just like google
30:00
uh not not just like googling what's the usd to bitcoin conversion but like
30:04
kraken has been terrible but yeah okay but some there's a lot of different
30:09
tools that people are using taking a look at a handful of them and kind of going okay well here's some of the
30:13
advantages and drawbacks of each of them yeah um yeah i mean i i think i think it
30:18
would be something that would be very beneficial to the community at large like kraken's charts are super nice and
30:22
really rapidly updated yeah but which is cool half the time the site doesn't work
30:27
well that's a problem which is you know a pro and con yes
30:32
and these are the kinds of conversations that we want to have yeah speaking of
30:36
conversations we want to have let's talk about
30:39
uh oh i think i think nothing yeah so you don't drag stuff i know i realize
30:44
that okay so i want to talk about that we actually
30:47
thought for the longest time we still
30:50
don't know that well we thought and we might still think we might not be sure
30:54
what we think okay but we thought that you weren't allowed to show
30:59
man nips on twitch are we doing it so i'm gonna find out once and for all hold
31:04
on i'm gonna find out because we actually like fairly regularly have
31:09
twitch staff watching our stream so
31:12
we're we're doing our mac welding spot today no no no we are going now normally
31:18
luke jumps in with the hands and covers the nips yeah and to be clear
31:23
i'm not gonna do anything sexual because that's clearly in their terms of service
31:27
which i have wondered about okay because if there's a girl on stream yeah
31:31
and some dude puts his hands in front
31:35
and it doesn't show her nibs i bet you that would still be bannable
31:39
even though that's exactly what we did just with two what if he hasn't like an
31:43
eight inch or like a buffer because that's often what i yeah
31:46
like yeah like a 12-inch buffer like clearly this yeah could be sexual yeah but maybe
31:52
this isn't you know maybe okay so here it goes are we gonna get banned
31:57
oh
32:02
apologies headphone users um because that was probably terrible
32:06
i didn't see any staff in chat
32:09
oh oh what's going on now no that was that was unrelated oh i thought i
32:13
thought the page actually like disappeared i was like whoa that freaks
32:17
out we broke the twitchner net
32:20
uh okay so mac weldon makers of the shirts that we're wearing believes in
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smart design premium fabrics and simple shopping um mac weldon makes super
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comfortable clothes whether it's underwear socks shirts undershirts hoodies or sweatpants and this is
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awesome they have a line of silver underwear and shirts that are naturally
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antimicrobial which and very comfortable i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get judgy
32:43
okay you know i'm not saying anything about you know our audience and you know
32:47
or like twitch in general and what are the odds that you might benefit from an
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antimicrobial shirt see we're not going there
32:54
but antimicrobial means that it'll help eliminate odor and if you've ever been
32:58
to a lan party i'm not going to generalize but i will say that there are
33:01
certain people you'll find someone at any lan party who should probably be
33:05
wearing an anti-microbial shirt it's getting a little bit better that's what i'll say yeah that's what i'll say
33:10
um so they want you to be comfortable and not smell and if you don't like your
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first pair you can keep them and they will still refund you no questions asked
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small d small v big g big y big i or
33:31
small l i don't know which it is so i'm gonna paste it in the twitch chat slash
33:34
it'll be under the video and you guys can click it because that's a better way
33:38
to handle that the twitch that right now is fantastic oh are they are they are
33:42
they upset about me oh no they're just they're just making jokes about it oh
33:45
excellent good i'm i'm never sure if i'm going to make people mad when i'm like
33:49
well because here's the thing is like the the culture today
33:54
is one of not being able to say things that are true sometimes
33:58
and like i'd like to think that most gamers like back when i was going to
34:03
lands and you're there for like sometimes 48 hours at a time nobody
34:07
leaves so you clearly haven't showered in two days and you've been sitting at
34:11
your computer and here's the thing when you're gaming
34:14
when competitively gaming the odds of you sweating in a stinky way are
34:19
actually higher than if you were working out because stress sweat stinks more
34:25
than exercise sweat so you're sitting there gaming you're
34:29
like stressed out for two days
34:32
you're probably gonna smell and
34:35
i mean i'm not some people forget they're i'll say
34:40
forget some people are bound to forget their
34:43
deodorant that they definitely do own
34:48
so but you never know like sometimes your mom bought it for you people are
34:51
going to get upset about these things and it's just like you never know what you can what you can actually say right
34:56
now okay i'm going to sideline this for a quick second yeah okay all right
34:59
this is where i don't know because we are in a little bit of like outragey
35:03
kind of culture yeah yeah sure but then
35:07
we're also getting older yeah so is this like the old people say
35:11
offensive things kind of situation man
35:14
like are we becoming the racist grandpa exactly except about like
35:20
people who smell yeah like totally different category of stuff
35:25
yeah but is that part of what's happening are people who smell becoming
35:29
a subculture that you can't discriminate against maybe because here's the thing
35:35
all sniffs are equal i'm not gonna name any names but we had a situation at
35:41
Linus media group where i had to speak to an employee about his or her hygiene
35:49
and i'm really not going to name any names i'm not going to give any hints it was
35:53
me no wasn't it oh i thought it was me oh
35:56
no that was pajamas yeah that was a separate issue that was
36:00
professionalism slash i've probably given you crap about being sweaty at
36:04
some time or another but but no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say who it was but
36:08
no i don't even know who this is okay no because that's because it's private well
36:11
you did a good job yeah thank you um so i actually did have to speak to an
36:15
employee about hygiene at one point and
36:19
i really wasn't sure how to do it because
36:23
is that discriminatory it's a difficult yeah because it's a
36:28
difficult thing they weren't showing up like in in a like a
36:32
an indecent garb like they weren't showing up in a in a thong and no pants
36:36
like something that's like clearly you know sexually inappropriately smells bad
36:41
yeah and um and so
36:45
i can i can tell you my solution
36:48
um in a way that will make it very difficult for you to track down who it
36:52
would have been okay but at some point in our process of doing annual reviews
36:59
i added a field about professionalism
37:03
and about maintaining appropriate personal hygiene
37:07
for the sake of the comfort in the workplace of your
37:11
colleagues because i do know about that field because i've been in there because
37:16
i wore pajamas to work that was the professionalism over there
37:19
yeah and so um by the way yes shorts
37:25
yeah the shorts i've never cared about the shorts have never bothered me
37:30
it was it was when you would literally like roll out of bed go to work and be
37:36
like wearing a shirt that's like stained
37:40
and like pj pants that are ripped to hell like to the point where yeah to the
37:45
point where it was a little indecent so every single pair of pajamas that i
37:50
have has a hole in the crotch so anyway i buy new pajamas so so so these are
37:54
things that i've actually had to worry about like am i being the
37:57
the the the uh the the anti-deodorantist
38:01
you know grandpa who's like you shouldn't smell pens
38:06
who knows that's like i'm running into these situations that is a cultural
38:10
thing like there's people who are anti anything that's unnatural shaving
38:14
deodorant that kind of thing and uh you know maybe i'm crossing a you
38:18
know a personal boundary by being like yo you smell
38:24
in a manner that is my discomfort level is about here right
38:28
now you know yeah i have no i have no idea so there
38:32
you go anyways next sponsor they're like no this is irrelevant old people don't
38:36
care about bad smell which is
38:40
you know what no i'm not gonna get into it because maybe some of the best like groomed people
38:45
that i know are older people yeah some of them and i
38:50
think it gets to a certain point where it becomes it becomes it's not that they don't care
38:56
i think well okay some of them probably don't care like some people okay so
39:00
there's two things there's actually a number of factors here i think some
39:03
people get old and give zero f's about anything yes and they're just like yolo
39:08
also i'm close to the end of it so i'm just not going to stress about
39:11
this stuff other people get to the point where they can't really care for
39:14
themselves properly anymore and like that makes them unhappy actually or it
39:18
would be extremely tedious to do so so
39:22
um steve jobs apparently didn't shower i do know that that is a thing like not
39:26
showering and letting your body's natural flora like take care of itself
39:30
is apparently theoretically a thing um i haven't actually
39:34
like smelled someone what do you do about grime
39:38
in that case i don't know it's just like what if you get dirty like a file you
39:42
know scrape it off i don't know
39:46
but that's like that's my thing do i smell like i know how this works
39:52
uh not that kind i guess you smell fine you smell neutral there's no there's no like
39:57
yeah i didn't actually notice any smell
40:00
difference if i can walk into the room and nobody notices i consider that
40:04
optimal yeah um okay okay sorry let's jump into our next thing um
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because i only have one browser extension installed right
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now so i don't have like a super loaded up browser yeah yeah so that seems like
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that sounds like a pretty good one i have
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42:56
couple more topics here there's a leaked Intel sorry Floatplane at some point yes
43:00
there's a leaked Intel road map um it's on wccf tech so you take it with a
43:05
grain of salt this was posted on the forum by numlock21
43:09
and apparently um Intel cascade lake x is confirmed for
43:14
hedt it'll be arriving on x 299 slash
43:17
lga 2066 in late 2018 so none of this is
43:20
surprising at all uh because that's what Intel does every
43:25
generation they launch a new chipset with cpus then they do a CPU refresh
43:29
then you get a new chipset then you get let's see okay
43:32
um also this is ground breaking news coffee
43:36
lake x s s not x will apparently get dual core processors and there will be
43:40
more processor updates in 2018 along with z390 and b360 chipsets
43:46
okay blah blah blah blah blah blah no mention
43:49
of eight core processors though those have been rumored
43:52
and uh gemini lake goes in n-series
43:56
processors features 10 watt TDP and four slash two core variants so these are 14
44:00
nanometer goldmont cores and those are apparently coming in the 52nd week of
44:04
2018 so end of next year okay neat now let's talk about stuff
44:08
that's coming a little bit sooner this was a post-posted by aluminium tech on
44:12
the forum and the original article here is from qualcomm.com
44:15
they've got a new CPU coming
44:19
the 845 mobile platform
44:23
um yeah your next phone your next phone will
44:28
have one of these unless you buy a phone right now
44:31
yeah and then or like a cheaper one or an iphone
44:37
and it will be a little bit better
44:41
um
44:45
how much better you say 25 to 35 percent faster than current
44:49
snapdragon 835 it can apparently record 480 FPS video
44:54
at 720p or 240fps at 1080. that's pretty cool mind you
45:01
light most phones absolutely kill their image quality yeah when you're recording
45:05
at high frame rates so even though it is
45:08
1920 pixels by 1080 pixels
45:12
it looks blocky and like trash yeah so
45:16
yeah although the 25 to 30 faster thing
45:20
is gonna be interesting to check out because uh
45:25
yeah this is the first qualcomm soc to have a secure processing unit so this is a new
45:29
subsystem to protect data like your fingerprints iris mobile payments sim
45:33
and more that's interesting but it's probably
45:36
like super cracked already why would it be if it stores everything
45:40
locally um yeah but there's
45:44
i
45:49
american government thing
45:52
oh i have the fcc in my head that's obviously not it yeah the um nsa nsa has
45:58
nsa tools or whatever and those have leaked repeatedly and considering how
46:02
delayed this is compared to apples i wouldn't be surprised if it was like
46:06
developed in cohorts with them
46:09
i know it's like tin foil hatty but these things keep coming true
46:13
so i don't know and those uh nsa tools keep leaking
46:19
so like random pirate groups keep getting access to them and then it's
46:23
super not secure so i don't know i i wouldn't absolutely trust it but hey
46:28
cool uh in other news this was originally
46:31
posted on anantech.com AMD has apparently
46:37
silently lowered the spec
46:41
of their rx 560
46:44
yeah um to basically
46:49
a previous generation spec
46:52
update an AMD statement given to our sister site tom's hardware confirms the
46:57
two rx 560 variants and AMD also noted
47:01
that aib partners so like sapphire MSI etc would be responsible for
47:06
communicating a given rx 560 model's specifications
47:11
wow so you can either get 14 compute units
47:14
or 16 compute units buying an rx 560.
47:18
this is trash and AMD should feel terrible
47:22
and they should not do this so with an rx
47:25
560 let's go with the 14 compute unit
47:29
model you can get 14 cus and
47:32
896 sps now comparing to an rx 460 which
47:37
has 14 cus and 896 sps one of the big reasons why
47:42
people are pissed off is because it's essentially a 460.
47:47
like if you want to sell slightly disabled 560 with less RAM why don't you
47:52
just sell 460s how complicated is that
47:56
yeah wow it's polaris 11.
48:02
like honestly it's the last time like
48:06
this is not the first time for AMD like i don't know if you know this
48:09
but i still remember one of the most
48:13
pissed off that i have ever been
48:16
about a technology purchase was when i bought a sapphire Radeon 9600
48:22
non-pro and this was back like almost 15 years
48:26
ago like back when that was a somewhat respectable card but nearing
48:30
the end of its life cycle so it was like uh it was like a
48:34
value gaming card so i already had my own
48:37
gaming rig but i was upgrading my parents computer so that my siblings
48:41
could play like sims or whatever
48:44
and what happened was sapphire called the
48:49
card radio i ended up on the phone for literally hours with both sapphire and
48:54
AMD support over this when i found out
48:58
that this 9600 and in this case it was
49:01
not marked in any way on the box that this 9600 was different from a normal
49:05
9600 when this 9600 had i forget what the difference was i
49:11
think it had um a narrower memory bus or something like
49:14
that like it had a like a 64 versus a 128-bit bus or
49:19
something along those lines and there were no specs online other
49:23
than the specific product page for this sapphire card which was like hard to
49:27
find on their site that made it clear
49:31
that it was not a normal 9600.
49:34
i thought we were past this
49:37
i don't really get why tech companies feel the need to re-badge especially in
49:43
this manner when they already had a product that they could have just sold
49:48
as this now there are some differences the new one compared to the 460 can go
49:53
down to a lower TDP so as low as 60 watts versus approximately 75 watts and
49:59
it's available with just 2 gigs of RAM instead of just being a 4 gig part
50:04
but i feel like it would have been a lot less misleading to just call this a 2gig
50:09
460 and just make it available
50:15
especially because like in in their update statement to be clear they said
50:20
we're working with all uh we're taking immediate steps to remedy this we're
50:24
working with all adam board and channel partners to make sure product
50:27
descriptions and names clarify the cu
50:30
count so that gamers consumers know exactly what they're buying that's not
50:34
going to work we apologize for the confusion this may have caused that was
50:38
intentional that's bs the reason why it's not going to work is the vast
50:41
majority of consumers don't know what a freaking cu is yeah of course not
50:45
they're looking at a model number or model names all they had to do and
50:49
they've even done stuff like this in the past all they had to do if they were
50:53
going to do a cut down one is call it ellie or xl or something along those lines
50:58
like there are something there's plenty of precedent that already
51:02
exists for how to do this properly
51:06
and they just decided not to this is really bad for AMD because AMD was very
51:11
much in the for the people yeah they're supposed to be like you know the good
51:14
guy underdog like that's their brand image that they project the last like
51:18
major controversy that i know of on what this scale should be but this doesn't
51:23
seem to be blowing up as much probably because not an insane amount of people are buying 560s and a lot more people
51:28
had purchased 970s was the RAM issue on
51:31
970s that was the last big time that it was
51:35
like this is essentially being lied about
51:38
yeah all right
51:42
um not good man sneaky deaky stuff not cool what else we got here
51:47
um oh yeah sure why not oh steem no longer accepts bitcoin
51:51
oh um i actually didn't even know that they accepted bitcoin as payment didn't
51:55
you the original poster here was vegetable stew we'll go ahead and pull
51:58
up
52:02
okay so first of all anyone who is giving me crap about using the word
52:06
volatile to describe bitcoin you can go ahead and give uh valve a bunch of crap
52:10
for it too because there's all the instances of volatile or volatility in
52:15
the first three paragraphs of their statement on why they are no longer i
52:19
don't think it's completely invalid to use it's just going to trigger some people yeah so yeah there you go so go
52:24
ahead and get triggered by valve too um i actually yeah i had no idea that
52:29
they didn't accept it so when they first added bitcoin as a method of payment
52:32
transaction fees were as low as 20 cents
52:35
now they've crept up as high as 20 dollars per transaction
52:39
uh these fees are passed on to the consumer and they result in unreasonably
52:42
high costs for games also the value of bitcoin is only
52:46
guaranteed for a certain period of time so if the transaction doesn't complete
52:49
within that window the amount of bitcoin needed to cover the transaction can
52:53
change um well the normal solution is either to
52:57
refund the original payment or the user or ask the user to transfer additional funds but
53:01
both in both of these cases the user is hit with the transaction fee again not
53:04
to mention that this is like a customer service overhead nightmare
53:09
for any retailer or retailer they've said they'll reevaluate it at a later
53:13
date and i don't blame them at all with all of that said are we planning to
53:18
support bitcoin on Floatplane we want to
53:21
and what are the obstacles right now you can if you can talk about it so okay
53:26
the main obstacles right now to be completely honest is everything else
53:30
essentially is a higher priority the site's not up uh payments for
53:35
the current payment system on the forum is atrocious um
53:39
and we need payments for credit card to work and we need the new implementation
53:45
for payments for paypal which will be braintree to work
53:49
and i want essentially i want the mvp of the site to be up i want people to be
53:53
using the proper domain not going through the forum i want all that other kind of
53:57
stuff done and then we'll look into supporting bitcoin but there is going to
54:02
be more issues once we start doing that um
54:06
how do we deal with fraud okay i literally don't know
54:11
like on bitcoin you mean yeah right i have no clue
54:15
yeah that's fine got it like what if there's fraudulent transactions there's
54:18
no i can't go contact someone's bank contacting the
54:23
it's their wallet like i can't do anything like that um i'm not
54:27
entirely sure how refunds work i think we would be on the hook for the transaction fee for refunds right where
54:32
with most services like you get a refund of the
54:36
transaction fee yeah and if if it's a 20 transaction fee that could drive us
54:40
under pretty fast if uh yeah like there there is a lot of potential issues we're
54:44
going to look into it i haven't looked into any of those issues yeah i don't
54:48
know so there might be none yeah maybe i don't know it's just not
54:52
very high on the priority tier we just need to know can i do this maybe no can
54:56
i try i would really prefer not they're literally working on it right now
55:01
is it worth a shot come on let's try it you only live once
55:07
what's that okay i want to put a giant disclaimer
55:11
here last time a whole bunch of people signed up for Floatplane um on the forum
55:16
and paid for their access and then were very upset when they couldn't log into
55:21
this site to access it yes um just like last time this is not the site that is
55:26
working right now at all to access Floatplane it's the
55:31
front page of the forum and then if you are subscribed it is at the top of the
55:34
forum there is a Floatplane section yeah i'm not logged in yet right now but
55:38
uh that that's normally how you access it yeah but um you know i mean
55:43
hey come on you only live you only live once right baby
55:49
uh oh that's weird um i i don't i didn't
55:53
uh did uh who oh
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uh when did that happen can you use your thing no why i don't know can i um that
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thing's being used by swedish bros for development oh um okay so now what uh i
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can make you one dang it danny why are you what is this
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what are you doing well i i i
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usually do that and then just cover it with the camera right uh no i usually
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use the other one oh yeah
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ah okay well uh do it do a news topic
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okay or we can switch and i can set up a different account that you can use no
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it's fine just uh just do a news topic in the meantime i got this all right all right all right give me a sec
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so it's not in the dock but you might even be able to talk about this while
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you're covering that um and nick has a link for me apparently apple is
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acquiring the music recognition app shazam
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interesting um i actually did already read about this uh apparently it's some
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amount less than a billion dollars so
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that's good if you're apple i guess because i don't know if i would pay a billion dollars for shazam shazam
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but um i mean i don't know if this is reactionary or if this is something that
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they already had planned but this definitely helps apple address google's
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implementation on the pixel on the pixel 2 rather anyway where the device is
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always listening to music around you as creepy as that is um and we'll just
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display passively on the screen of your phone
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what um what song is playing so
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other than helping siri better recognize songs
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i don't really know what the benefit of this is for apple but it goes to show
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you that they are they are sure willing to spend a lot of
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money to have it be slightly easier to find out what song and also
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i guess you could have just used shazam but not do that for a billion dollars
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less than a billion dollars yeah um
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so yeah what oh okay why are you why are you trying
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to show that well i wanted i wanted to i wanted to try it well i was going to
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link it to the other one and then i was going to like go through
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and i was going to use oh but yeah there's nothing to use right now
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oh that like the videos aren't there yet no
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oh okay i thought they were no okay so
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we're making that part just work for live streaming oh for now oh right live
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streaming is going to be a thing soon yeah all right so right now on Floatplane uh
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we've got the porsche design just make sure that you're covering up
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we've got the porsche design book one see look i'm driving a laptop
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oh i actually didn't put that together right away oh
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oh my goodness we've got our review of the arrow 15x this is a thin and light
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with a gtx 1070 wow it's pretty impressive
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and they managed to do it with the touchpad in not a stupid location does
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it can we can we get a little spoiler does it throttle um it's really good
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okay yeah it's like really impressive um
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we finally yeah pretty much every laptop throttles
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under combined load though yeah yeah so we finally released our video on vega
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frontier edition the teaser for this is amazing yeah this is
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this was a freaking saga
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uh brandon's smartphone camera showdown which we promised in the next week or
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two after whatever video i was recording when i was like yo brandon why don't you
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do your smartphone camera showdown is finally up on Floatplane so he compares
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the iphone 8 plus with the note8 with the v30 with the pixel 2 xl so we don't
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have the iphone 10 in there but my understanding is a is that it is a
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pretty similar camera to the iphone 8
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plus so i'm not too worried about it um
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we've got the ev the crowd-sourced surface competitor
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and then uh i don't think this handy tech has made
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it onto youtube yet either handy tech old is new
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again so we've actually got a lot of stuff on there including a couple tech quickies uh does overclocking voyager
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warranty for example so if you cannot wait to find out then you can sign up
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for Floatplane where you'll get one weak ish of early access
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one weak ish it's ish don't worry about it yeah
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all right honestly i don't know what else we got
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oh nintendo games are coming to the NVIDIA shield in china yes no way super
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weird i actually did miss this yeah i are game consoles still
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no no yeah they're not outlawed so what what is that
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NVIDIA and nintendo's partnership with the switch
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something something yeah so NVIDIA provided the hardware something something so they teamed up
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in china today NVIDIA shield is getting nintendo games what
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so you can play new super super mario bros wii legend of zelda twilight
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princess and punch out what yeah
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apparently all of them have been remastered in 1080p for the shield this
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is from slash gear by the way
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what i don't know where this is mario galaxy is coming
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what why can't i get this why is it only in china oh i hate you so much nintendo
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every time you seem like you're getting cool you're
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actually not cool and you're just like a little bit cool
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oh man oh the switch is not available in china
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yeah there you go that sucks
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all right well i'm pretty much i'm pretty much
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done thank you for tuning in to the WAN Show we will see you guys again next week
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same bat time same bat channel
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bye okay
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it starts at 300.
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i also didn't take
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so it'll give you a warning