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live you can tell at the bottom of the screen

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oh boy we um are late

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and for that we are sorry only by 19 minutes only by 19.49 depending on how

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you count it we technically have a new start time five o'clock but

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i don't know if we ever officially announced that Colton changed it uh

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because we were never on time anyway the point is this time

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we were learning while i was learning luke was showing me

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a different streaming software yeah so this will be the first rant show

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streamed on obs yeah not necessarily because we think obs is

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unequivocally better than xsplit no

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uh which it isn't um but because xsplit has had an utterly

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game breaking bug for us for the last couple of weeks that has made it take

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about half an hour to 45 minutes of extra time after the show to

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de-corruptify the corrupted video output

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and then upload it to youtube so it's been kind of a pain in the arse which has

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mostly resulted in us like downloading the vod off of twitch

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so that we can mess with it which takes a while because it's an hour plus long

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stream sometimes twitch takes a while to process that then you have to download

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which all makes sense which all makes sense and it's fine it's just a pain in

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the butt and we don't want to do that anymore so yeah the WAN Show to be very

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clear there's pros and cons with both on obs but

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yeah now we're doing this um what else do we have this week oh

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yeah rate the news so NVIDIA announced the titan v

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and you can have one for the value price of only three thousand dollars we'll

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talk about what exactly you get for your money AMD and qualcomm joined forces for

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always connected pcs what else we got

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nice hash was breached 64 million dollars of bitcoin was stolen that

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valuation is going to constantly change so there's about 4 700 coins and this is

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in rapid fire actually but damn uh AMD

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silently lowers Radeon rx 560 specs

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start with the interesting news end with the super bad news all right hold on i'm

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updating i'm updating that nice hash number

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uh was 4 700 coins stolen right yeah roughly i think so that is now 76.6

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million because bitcoin has been like

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lately it does that all right let's roll that intro baby

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oh there's no transition

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yeah you like those indicators baby i do

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show me your indicators

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i almost made a very specific way too far joke but no it's cool let's move on

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titan v uh yeah let's talk about the titan v v

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is completely what we're just talking you know what i've got to give NVIDIA a lot of credit

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here for doing the right thing with this graphics card now this was posted by max

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settings okay this is posted by max settings

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on the forum um

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and uh hold on a second and uh the original article here is from anantek i

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think it's kind of neat that max settings shared a post about a

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3 000 graphics card so NVIDIA did the

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right thing here rather than confuse consumers

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by calling their product iphone x but then 10

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NVIDIA called it titan v instead of like

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titan five which incidentally would it is it the

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fifth titan hold on a second now you got the titan you got the titan black i

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think it's going to depend you've got the titan x you've got the titan

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xp and the xp and the xpp so no technically it is the sixth titan now if

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they hadn't screwed up and had both a titan xp which

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was you know what if you count what it actually says on the shroud

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yeah there you go i guess because the titan

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didn't have the black filled in on the titan word the titan

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black did but it was the same same silver shroud

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then wait the titan you'd have four

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which one had the actual black shroud hold on we might be missing one here

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kepler maxwell pasquale

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titan something titan yeah what was the titan what was the titan black just

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tight and black which one actually got yeah let's see let's see a picture though uh which one actually got like a

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black shroud no so it was absolutely the titan x that got a black shroud yes okay

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okay cool so if we ignore

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the one that didn't get a p on the end of it the titan x pascal

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which i basically did ignore so i think i could i could stick with

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that did we make a video for that or did we just rant but on wednesday i don't think we did yeah i don't think we can

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win so if we agree that only graphics

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cards that we do a review video of count

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then this is the fifth titan okay okay that only we do

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we ordered one what a way to yeah i heard yeah wow i uh

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so i reached out to NVIDIA yo are you guys providing review samples of this

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thing and they said

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i'm not surprised at all i'm not even remotely surprised they

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said literally nothing that was the joke um yeah and so i'm kind of sitting here

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going well okay i'm not gonna i'm not gonna wait around and find out titan z

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i don't count the titans either we didn't review it

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okay see this is a very convenient definition

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where if i don't decide that something counts it doesn't count

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this is a fun way to live the world live the world

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live my life it also wasn't a different GPU perceive the world interpret the

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world yeah that's true it was it was two gpus yeah there see mind you titan black

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isn't a different GPU from titan

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i mean it's just it's just black

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and it's not even that much blacker it's just black text so

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yeah my minor details um

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okay so right what do we have to say about the titan v

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last night i i i love that the place they announced it was the nips

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conference because you know

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this is a pretty hot announcement you know but nips

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anyway um so they announced the titan v it has a golden shroud now which is just

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oh beautiful perfect what were they why pick another color thinking like you

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know it was like a few generations ago that i zeus did their golden stuff so

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you can take a few generations old board pair it with your new three thousand

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dollar graphics card that was like pc67 no it's been more recent than that

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no yeah no no ASUS hold on a second ASUS

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goldboard you were making fun of this stuff on the couch at the old house

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you're drunk no no you're drunk yeah but they were old boards by then okay hold

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on where's that here here's one of their stupid gold boards what's it okay z87

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all right all right all right okay z87

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still that's

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how old is that no it's perfect three thousand dollar graphics card that board

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boom put it together best combination i mean what is it is this like uh

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isn't everything kind of going gold these days like is this just because of

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the iphone do i have apple to blame for this a graphic everybody else the entire

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rest of the computer industry is like okay

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fine we give up everything's going to be grayscale so black gray or white and

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we'll put RGB lighting on so everything matches everything else maybe that's why

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actually because a very minor amount i don't like gold but a very am i like i

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don't know i don't like gold jewelry i don't like whatever but a very minor amount of gold accent on something

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that's like blacked out looks pretty sharp a ginormous graphics

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card though is not like a small gold

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actor go with the monochrome computer which is like popular these days and

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then have your black and gold titan

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yeah well what are we actually going to see is there a picture of the backplate uh

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no because you'll only really see the side in the back plate unless you're

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going with like one of those vertical mount systems which was like i'm gonna

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i'm gonna assume it's black i'm gonna assume it's black

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this thing looks so it's probably gonna be just a minor amount of accenting of

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gold on the side that you're actually getting i'm going to have to redo my how to paint your graphics card tutorial

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with the new titan shroud because i can't imagine

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anyone you should be happy with it like real silver paint

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can you get that it's nothing i'm sure that's a thing

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huh sounds like poisonous or something i don't know it probably is all right um

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so anyway what else can we say about this thing silver paint available for

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purchase today three grand so that's almost 4 000 canadian rupees

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um which sucks but like

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realistically so NVIDIA's policy on

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cards that are not intended for gamers is that they don't generally seed them

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to gaming press but gaming press

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wants to know how this thing performs for games

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and other things gamers want to know how this thing performs

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in games so the way that we see it we're kind of

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taking one for the team here we absolutely

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have to get one and run some games on it and see how it goes from there because

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the specs on this thing are ridiculous this is the same GPU as the tesla v100

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which is apparently a ten thousand dollar graphics so really we should all

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stop complaining because you're getting a seven thousand dollar discount

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beautiful no no no no complaints here give me four

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this is targeted at machine learning scientists who want to simply install

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the card in their desktop pcs and not rely on a special server or storage or

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networking so it keeps the titan branding as

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opposed to GeForce titan

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and it'll have massive memory bandwidth yes it's using hbm2 memory 12 12 gigs

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freaking gigs of it that's a lot and it has uh

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was this hbm2 to be clear 110

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it says dl in here but i'm sure that means dual precision um teraflops so

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that's nine times oh deep learning teraflops sorry that's nine times the

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deep learning computing horsepower of its predecessor uh 1455 megahertz boost

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clock this is a massive 815 millimeter

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square die i believe this was the largest of all time

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like single monolithic dye i don't remember if it actually was but it is it

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is very close 80 sms

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did i already say 5 120 cuda cores

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holy crap it's one side for titan v sli

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for compensator uh no no so that's really interesting

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at all um so so this is so the previous titan xp was 3840 cuda cores so this is

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a new architecture this is volta and it has many

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many more cuda cores and uh it has nv link connectors at the top

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but this was actually a developing story right as we were starting the lan show

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uh there's a thread over on the Linux tech tips forum where people are talking

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about this apparently NVIDIA has come out and said it not only does not

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support sli because it doesn't have sli fingers it does not support nd link

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so the fingers are there but envy link is i guess considered to be a data

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center feature and not something that you would need in a single system so

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NVIDIA is coming right out

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and making dual card configurations

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for gaming and then also for

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uh to be clear it doesn't matter how they market this people are going to use

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it for gaming yeah so now dual card configurations will still work for some

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workloads like something like solidworks doesn't require nvlink or an sli

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connector you can just have more gpus in and it'll just use more compute

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um but where the cards need to communicate with each other not having

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envy link will be a disadvantage and for gaming they're just like nope

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you know last generation two generations ago we took away three-way and four-way

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on this stuff now we're taking away two-way this is just one card per system

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boom done wow vapor chamber cooler 16 power phases

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250 watt TDP and uh

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wow it gets the gv100s full unrestricted

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fp64 compute and tensor core performance

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and the only real thing that differentiates it from tesla is memory

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capacity memory bandwidth and the lack of nv-link functionality it uses the

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standard g-force driver stack freakin

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cool huh okay well i'm excited to see how

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this goes and two people will let you know as soon as it arrives there is no

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gaming information at all anywhere on the titan v page this is not like what

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NVIDIA has done in the past where they've gone like titan titan z was a

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perfect example of this where they're like this thing is was it that one three

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grand two i think so titan z was really exciting i think it sounds like three like this thing is thousands of dollars

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because it's a professional product not for gamers and then you'd go on like

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three grand yeah retailer websites you'd go on ncix or newegg or whatever and

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there'd be banner ads using like NVIDIA assets that are like titan z the

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ultimate gaming performance yeah it's like okay

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is it or is it not well this one there is absolutely nothing in there about

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gaming i don't see a single thing that's cool because it's cool because if

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they want this to be the non-gaming thing that they keep on saying that

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they are well original titan was supposed to be yeah

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so this is just kind of coming back to its roots a little bit yeah because it

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strayed pretty hard um all right AMD and qualcomm this was

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posted on the forum by the username the Linus portal i don't know what a Linus

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portal is um i'm gonna try not to be weirded out by it i'm sure it's i'm sure

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it's happening

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um that gets confusing when working on flow plane anyway the original post here was

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from engadget boop AMD and qualcomm join

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forces to power higher end connected

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pcs so they're going up against Intel's e-sim compatible systems

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so in a nutshell

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they're teaming up to make always-connected pcs on AMD's ryzen

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mobile platform using snapdragon lte modems to enable

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gigabit connection speeds

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okay so apparently the pair of the processor and this

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like always connected chip will make it so you can play something like league of

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legends anywhere without wi-fi yeah

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okay i mean this is actually something we were talking about like just last

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week on the lan show yeah yeah i mean more connectivity for these devices that

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now i mean a device like the lg gram the last generation one not the one with the

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8th gen processor that one's battery life is not as much but something like a

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last-gen lg gram is getting nine plus hours

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in like a battery life test and in real usage

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can get well over that like sometimes 10 even 12 hours

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so having a device like that just be able to be connected literally all the

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time is obviously desirable so and you could

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theoretically have a laptop that was more performance it wasn't the

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performance of the laptop that was hampering the game you could play it's

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just this chip in particular that we're talking about so you could get a higher

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end laptop that also has this snapdragon x16 lte modem and would be able to game

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other things just on that powerful system probably gonna be plugged in so

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we have our first all AMD laptop

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like not of all time like i probably at some point like eight years ago of

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modern era like Linus tech tips covered one like i don't remember it though it

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was a long time ago um ASUS sent us over a gaming laptop that's

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got polar a polaris GPU and a ryzen CPU so we're going to be checking that out

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pretty soon cool AMD is finally relevant in laptops again

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or maybe they're not i don't know we haven't tested it yet yeah but there are they got design wins and that's a lot

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more than they could say over the last couple of years

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oh boy so um i lost about 300

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okay okay i'll say that uh the original article here is from reuters

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which i will confess i did not know how this was pronounced until like less than

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a year ago i thought it was like reuters reuters

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and like whenever i heard people say reuters like just kind of

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you know on the periphery i thought they were talking about like steroids

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like i never like reuters that close attention

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that's funny i don't think i've ever attempted to

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pronounce it like with no pre-knowledge yeah

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i heard the name before i read the names yeah well you know what whatever

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i've had enough of you i've had enough of your comments twitch chat which i

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don't even have to look at the twitch chat to know that i'm getting like

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skinned alive over there yeah so

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nice hash which this puts me in a bit of an awkward position because we didn't go

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as far as to recommend it oh i didn't even think about this in our recent

00:18:19.520 --> 00:18:25.520
video part one of our bitcoin slash

00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:29.760
cryptocurrency mining exploration but we did

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show it we did talk about what the service does and it was cool and we were

00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:40.080
using it yeah which means that when they got hacked earlier this

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week we lost about 300 bucks but i'm not

00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:46.559
going to complain because the total amount of money lost

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is tens of millions of dollars the uh the

00:18:49.280 --> 00:18:55.039
headline is 64 million because that's based on what the value was right around

00:18:53.280 --> 00:18:59.360
the time that this news broke but it went up last night was huge

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i believe was it last night or the night before um it was uh yesterday morning or

00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:08.640
like yesterday yesterday your early morning i think it spiked up to like

00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:11.600
1800 or something like that it was crazy i thought it was i was out of shape do

00:19:10.080 --> 00:19:15.919
you mean early morning isn't like two in the morning um

00:19:13.840 --> 00:19:19.679
well i don't know i was at a shoot and it was like

00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:24.480
11 a.m my time 10 a.m my time okay so it was like whenever it was very recent

00:19:21.760 --> 00:19:27.919
that it spiked up and the value of this yeah and even now it's like 10 million

00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:33.200
more about than it was when it first happened so

00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:38.160
this isn't the first time this has happened there's been so in this one in

00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:43.400
particular there's about 4 700 coins stolen bitcoin stolen uh in in all

00:19:41.919 --> 00:19:48.559
there's been 980 000 bitcoins that have been stolen

00:19:46.320 --> 00:19:53.039
from exchanges alone that total is worth more than 15 billion

00:19:51.120 --> 00:19:57.840
dollars at current exchange rates and that is when they calculated it

00:19:55.360 --> 00:20:02.320
before so it's actually worth more now so here's the thing that we should

00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:06.880
probably do because um there's oh right so there's been at

00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:11.039
least three dozen of these thefts on digital currency exchanges since 2011 uh

00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:16.799
including the one that led to the collapse of mount gox which was the

00:20:13.679 --> 00:20:20.080
largest bitcoin exchange at the time

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um so what i'm kind of thinking is

00:20:20.080 --> 00:20:27.679
everyone who wants to get into bitcoin seems to figure out

00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:31.840
how to buy it or how to mine it and then i feel like it's really easy to

00:20:29.679 --> 00:20:36.240
get lazy about the other stuff you want to get into like cold storage how to

00:20:33.840 --> 00:20:41.280
store it how to dump it because the literally

00:20:37.520 --> 00:20:44.320
the only way to be 100 certain that your

00:20:41.280 --> 00:20:46.799
bitcoin will not be vulnerable to a hack

00:20:44.320 --> 00:20:51.919
is to store it completely offline whether that's a hardware wallet yep or

00:20:49.360 --> 00:20:56.640
whether that's a cold computer by that i mean like a computer that's not on a

00:20:53.679 --> 00:21:02.960
network yeah so some people will even go as far as to store handwritten notes in

00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:06.720
safety deposit boxes in traditional banks

00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:10.960
and i think that's really something that is worth discussing because

00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:15.440
a lot of people are going into this whole bitcoin slash altcoin

00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:19.440
cryptocurrency thing thinking that once they google a little

00:21:17.760 --> 00:21:24.000
bit and they find you know who the reputable exchanges are

00:21:21.520 --> 00:21:29.280
or the reputable wallets are uh once they find that they've got the

00:21:26.080 --> 00:21:31.120
equivalent of a bank's type of security

00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:35.360
and then to be clear if banks are not perfect either by the way but in

00:21:33.120 --> 00:21:39.120
traditional finance it's usually if a bank gets

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heisted depends depends how much money is in the account

00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:48.000
for example um yeah no i don't know all the details

00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:50.240
i just know i've had forever ago my like

00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:53.760
debit card got ripped off yeah and a few thousand dollars where the transactions

00:21:51.520 --> 00:21:57.520
went through it and i got my money back pretty quick so that is heavily

00:21:55.600 --> 00:22:01.039
dependent on your account your financial institution you use a credit union which

00:21:59.360 --> 00:22:04.799
back then may have actually been an advantage but maybe no longer is

00:22:03.520 --> 00:22:10.000
we could talk about it more offline anyway the point is people google around

00:22:07.520 --> 00:22:13.120
they find something that looks reputable yeah you know everyone on reddit upvoted

00:22:11.520 --> 00:22:20.080
or whatever else and then they kind of go okay yeah my money is safe there

00:22:15.840 --> 00:22:21.200
but in truth there is so much more to it

00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:26.240
and like as much fun as it is to buy some bitcoin

00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:30.799
at 70 150 is i think what i got in at a little

00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:33.200
while ago and i had all i had i had abstained for the longest time and

00:22:32.320 --> 00:22:39.120
finally i was just like you know what forget it i'm just gonna i'm gonna buy some um

00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:43.039
as much as much fun as it is to look at that and go

00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:46.799
i doubled my money over the last three weeks which i did

00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:50.720
and i'm feeling pretty good about it unless you actually know how to get it

00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:55.600
out and convert it into a fiat currency right now with the volatility of bitcoin

00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:58.240
and for that matter cryptocurrency in general people are going to be pissed

00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:02.320
that we're saying this but like even just looking at at charts and stuff it

00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:07.039
is so it's not even just necessarily volatile because volatile means that it

00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:11.600
dies right no it means it varies okay yeah so it is extremely freaking

00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:16.559
vulnerable it's extremely volatile and to me currency is not currency unless it

00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:19.679
can be exchanged for goods and services and right now

00:23:18.159 --> 00:23:24.159
you cannot buy a car with bitcoin at the local

00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:28.159
dealer there's right yeah there's gonna be like some person yeah there's some

00:23:25.840 --> 00:23:33.360
dealership some dealership somewhere i don't care that is not the point the

00:23:30.159 --> 00:23:36.400
point is that if you wanted it let's say

00:23:33.360 --> 00:23:38.880
let's say i bought um

00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:42.960
a thousand dollars of bitcoin and it went up 10x and all of a sudden i had

00:23:41.120 --> 00:23:47.600
ten thousand dollars i wanted to go to like joe's used auto auto lot or

00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:51.679
whatever and i was like yo i invested a thousand

00:23:50.159 --> 00:23:57.120
dollars in bitcoin i'm gonna buy a car

00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:59.120
i cannot do that unless i cash out today

00:23:57.120 --> 00:24:02.640
so that's what i mean when i say as much fun as it is to have this

00:24:01.679 --> 00:24:08.400
money until you can actually exchange it for goods and services it's just

00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:11.039
paper and i kind of slurred my words there which was funny because i kind of

00:24:09.760 --> 00:24:14.799
said surfaces you could buy surfaces

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:21.360
whatever you're into cars surfaces razor blades i don't care

00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:25.760
um so i mean is that something that we should be starting to maybe do like a

00:24:23.600 --> 00:24:30.159
maybe make part of that multi-part bitcoin series that i think

00:24:27.840 --> 00:24:33.919
so looking into videos online about this kind of stuff

00:24:31.120 --> 00:24:40.000
one of the least documented processes is wallets and storage of your coins

00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:43.360
and one of the most important parts about it is wallets and storage of your

00:24:41.679 --> 00:24:46.080
coins and when this nice hash thing happens people weren't saying because

00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:50.159
you're talking about the bitcoin community right so people weren't coming at it from the angle you were which is

00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:53.919
like you need to bring it into fiat currencies uh people were going at it

00:24:52.320 --> 00:24:59.440
from the angle of you need to secure your bitcoin people don't understand

00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:00.640
okay lol i'm a ducky is paypal currency

00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:04.400
then or not yes because it's in a real currency it's

00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:11.039
just stored with paypal bitcoin is a real currency and by real i

00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:13.200
mean fiat currency i mean a recognized currency

00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:18.720
so yeah anyway and to be clear on the volatile thing i looked it up it does

00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:21.279
have a negative connotation sure it can have whatever connotation it wants but

00:25:20.080 --> 00:25:27.279
that doesn't change that it's very volatile but it is but it's going up so

00:25:24.320 --> 00:25:29.840
volatile is like apparently not entirely volatile is specifically a negative

00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:36.000
thing okay so erratic in a bad way which it is

00:25:33.760 --> 00:25:40.240
but it has mostly been erratic in a good way yes um except when it's not except

00:25:38.320 --> 00:25:42.480
when it's not which does happen and you might get screwed on a trade because it

00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:46.480
might go but like so far holding has been a very

00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:51.039
good strategy um like someone bought real estate with

00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:54.159
it recently right we actually specifically said that yes someone

00:25:53.120 --> 00:25:58.799
somewhere is taking it but you know there's coffee

00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:03.200
shops that take it there's there's websites that take it uh we're looking

00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:08.240
into trying to take it for Floatplane subscriptions uh it's a thing there's

00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:12.080
there's certain areas there's a cruise that you can go on that you can go on

00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:16.240
that you pay for with bitcoin and i think all the transactions while you're on the cruise are done in bitcoin

00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:23.039
there's some stuff but it would be it's not it's not the norm

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:27.520
um is what we're trying to say yeah so essentially um

00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:31.919
taking it out of bitcoin putting into usd is a generally safer way to deal

00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:35.360
with it but your usd can still get stolen everything can still get stolen

00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:38.880
that's kind of an important thing to understand but stuff like cold wallets

00:26:37.679 --> 00:26:42.960
holding your storage and offline computers different types of wallets using hardware wallets all this kind of

00:26:42.159 --> 00:26:48.559
stuff isn't as well documented as most other things in the bitcoin world and when

00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:53.679
something like this nice hash thing happens all the smug commenters are going yeah

00:26:51.520 --> 00:26:58.159
well you shouldn't have it in a hardware wallet or an offline wallet and most

00:26:55.919 --> 00:27:02.640
people responding are like what is that how do you do that yeah and

00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:05.600
there there is some resources on it but not a ton

00:27:03.840 --> 00:27:09.600
um yeah yeah well let's uh we'll have a

00:27:08.159 --> 00:27:12.320
look at that we'll we'll figure out a plan i think part two is going to be i

00:27:11.360 --> 00:27:17.679
don't know the more optimized mining machine so

00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:21.440
that's mostly done um we actually would have had the motherboard today but it

00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:24.000
got sent to north carolina for some reason

00:27:23.120 --> 00:27:28.159
yeah long story okay um or connecticut i

00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:31.600
don't know it was a u.s something and it had a c in it so

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:35.440
okay yeah it was a city or a state and it had a c at the beginning yeah it

00:27:33.600 --> 00:27:40.400
wasn't california i know that much anyway um

00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:42.000
so so we would have had ASUS 19 GPU

00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:46.880
board even though we're not actually going to be using all 19 slots

00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:52.400
so the reason for that get this is in order to run 19 why well bitcoin what do

00:27:49.919 --> 00:27:56.960
you think no i but but even for bitcoin why would you get that board um because

00:27:54.960 --> 00:28:02.000
then you don't have to have more boards and more RAM sticks and more cpus how

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:06.320
expensive is that for though 200 bucks yeah not too bad yeah so you save your

00:28:04.320 --> 00:28:11.120
because i mean the the cheapest the cheapest CPU is like 40 bucks from Intel

00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:16.880
anyway but are you putting them all next to each other no the way that it works

00:28:13.679 --> 00:28:18.720
is you use uh use extenders

00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:21.840
yeah yeah okay yeah so the slots are it's like this thing's hilarious i'll

00:28:20.159 --> 00:28:26.480
bring it out i haven't seen it the b250 mining expert oh it's literally

00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:33.760
okay i thought you were just buying some like crazy server board i was like dude no no

00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:35.840
no no this is like this is oh wall yeah

00:28:33.760 --> 00:28:40.000
look at this thing it's ridiculous there's all the slots it's like stupid

00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:44.000
um that's amazing so anyway the funny thing

00:28:42.320 --> 00:28:47.120
about it is that in order to actually use all 19

00:28:45.840 --> 00:28:51.760
six of them have to be NVIDIA's gp 106 based mining

00:28:50.159 --> 00:28:56.080
specific card okay exactly six i think

00:28:53.840 --> 00:29:01.919
like the manual for this thing is hilarious because check out these oh my

00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:03.760
god i just saw that so these power like

00:29:01.919 --> 00:29:07.520
different slots and there's like a whole diagram and stuff and then there's like

00:29:05.679 --> 00:29:11.760
this diagram for like what types of cards you can install in

00:29:09.520 --> 00:29:15.600
what ratios in what slots in order to actually populate all 19 of them so

00:29:13.679 --> 00:29:19.520
these guys have to come off the same power supply as this one

00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:23.279
in case you were wondering and don't quote me on that i looked at the manual

00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:27.440
like a couple hours ago actually there's two two RAM slots two RAM slots

00:29:25.919 --> 00:29:32.320
um oh yeah so we've got one of those i'm

00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:34.799
even surprised there's four SATA ports

00:29:32.320 --> 00:29:38.159
uh yeah yeah what would you need that for it i would have expected you got a

00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:42.000
usb 3 header i would have expected two or one yeah

00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:45.600
yeah so so yeah so that's gonna be part two

00:29:44.159 --> 00:29:50.799
uh part three we're gonna take a look at asic miners and then maybe part four

00:29:47.840 --> 00:29:54.399
we'll start to get into storage um how to sell

00:29:51.919 --> 00:29:58.399
uh maybe like a part five it would be cool to take a look at some of the tools

00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:02.880
that people are using like kraken to not just like google

00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:07.200
uh not not just like googling what's the usd to bitcoin conversion but like

00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:10.559
kraken has been terrible but yeah okay but some there's a lot of different

00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:15.760
tools that people are using taking a look at a handful of them and kind of going okay well here's some of the

00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:19.279
advantages and drawbacks of each of them yeah um yeah i mean i i think i think it

00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:24.720
would be something that would be very beneficial to the community at large like kraken's charts are super nice and

00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:29.360
really rapidly updated yeah but which is cool half the time the site doesn't work

00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:33.840
well that's a problem which is you know a pro and con yes

00:30:32.320 --> 00:30:37.919
and these are the kinds of conversations that we want to have yeah speaking of

00:30:36.080 --> 00:30:42.000
conversations we want to have let's talk about

00:30:39.679 --> 00:30:45.120
uh oh i think i think nothing yeah so you don't drag stuff i know i realize

00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:50.640
that okay so i want to talk about that we actually

00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:53.120
thought for the longest time we still

00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:57.200
don't know that well we thought and we might still think we might not be sure

00:30:54.640 --> 00:31:02.000
what we think okay but we thought that you weren't allowed to show

00:30:59.679 --> 00:31:06.640
man nips on twitch are we doing it so i'm gonna find out once and for all hold

00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:11.919
on i'm gonna find out because we actually like fairly regularly have

00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:14.480
twitch staff watching our stream so

00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:20.640
we're we're doing our mac welding spot today no no no we are going now normally

00:31:18.080 --> 00:31:25.600
luke jumps in with the hands and covers the nips yeah and to be clear

00:31:23.600 --> 00:31:29.120
i'm not gonna do anything sexual because that's clearly in their terms of service

00:31:27.600 --> 00:31:35.520
which i have wondered about okay because if there's a girl on stream yeah

00:31:31.520 --> 00:31:37.760
and some dude puts his hands in front

00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:41.679
and it doesn't show her nibs i bet you that would still be bannable

00:31:39.919 --> 00:31:45.200
even though that's exactly what we did just with two what if he hasn't like an

00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:48.799
eight inch or like a buffer because that's often what i yeah

00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:55.360
like yeah like a 12-inch buffer like clearly this yeah could be sexual yeah but maybe

00:31:52.640 --> 00:32:00.519
this isn't you know maybe okay so here it goes are we gonna get banned

00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.519
oh

00:32:02.080 --> 00:32:09.679
apologies headphone users um because that was probably terrible

00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:11.600
i didn't see any staff in chat

00:32:09.679 --> 00:32:15.039
oh oh what's going on now no that was that was unrelated oh i thought i

00:32:13.679 --> 00:32:20.480
thought the page actually like disappeared i was like whoa that freaks

00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.720
out we broke the twitchner net

00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:26.240
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00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.559
or like twitch in general and what are the odds that you might benefit from an

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00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:03.840
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certain people you'll find someone at any lan party who should probably be

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00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.480
small l i don't know which it is so i'm gonna paste it in the twitch chat slash

00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:39.840
it'll be under the video and you guys can click it because that's a better way

00:33:38.080 --> 00:33:44.240
to handle that the twitch that right now is fantastic oh are they are they are

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:47.600
they upset about me oh no they're just they're just making jokes about it oh

00:33:45.840 --> 00:33:51.519
excellent good i'm i'm never sure if i'm going to make people mad when i'm like

00:33:49.360 --> 00:33:56.480
well because here's the thing is like the the culture today

00:33:54.080 --> 00:34:01.440
is one of not being able to say things that are true sometimes

00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:04.960
and like i'd like to think that most gamers like back when i was going to

00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:09.760
lands and you're there for like sometimes 48 hours at a time nobody

00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:12.879
leaves so you clearly haven't showered in two days and you've been sitting at

00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:17.119
your computer and here's the thing when you're gaming

00:34:14.399 --> 00:34:21.919
when competitively gaming the odds of you sweating in a stinky way are

00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:27.440
actually higher than if you were working out because stress sweat stinks more

00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:32.560
than exercise sweat so you're sitting there gaming you're

00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:34.560
like stressed out for two days

00:34:32.560 --> 00:34:38.399
you're probably gonna smell and

00:34:35.919 --> 00:34:41.119
i mean i'm not some people forget they're i'll say

00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:48.200
forget some people are bound to forget their

00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:48.200
deodorant that they definitely do own

00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:52.879
so but you never know like sometimes your mom bought it for you people are

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:57.440
going to get upset about these things and it's just like you never know what you can what you can actually say right

00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:01.920
now okay i'm going to sideline this for a quick second yeah okay all right

00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:07.359
this is where i don't know because we are in a little bit of like outragey

00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:09.839
kind of culture yeah yeah sure but then

00:35:07.359 --> 00:35:14.960
we're also getting older yeah so is this like the old people say

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:17.440
offensive things kind of situation man

00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:22.560
like are we becoming the racist grandpa exactly except about like

00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:26.560
people who smell yeah like totally different category of stuff

00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:32.480
yeah but is that part of what's happening are people who smell becoming

00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:37.920
a subculture that you can't discriminate against maybe because here's the thing

00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:43.760
all sniffs are equal i'm not gonna name any names but we had a situation at

00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:48.720
Linus media group where i had to speak to an employee about his or her hygiene

00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:54.480
and i'm really not going to name any names i'm not going to give any hints it was

00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:58.400
me no wasn't it oh i thought it was me oh

00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:02.400
no that was pajamas yeah that was a separate issue that was

00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:06.800
professionalism slash i've probably given you crap about being sweaty at

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:10.079
some time or another but but no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say who it was but

00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.760
no i don't even know who this is okay no because that's because it's private well

00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:16.640
you did a good job yeah thank you um so i actually did have to speak to an

00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:21.520
employee about hygiene at one point and

00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:26.560
i really wasn't sure how to do it because

00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:29.680
is that discriminatory it's a difficult yeah because it's a

00:36:28.640 --> 00:36:34.720
difficult thing they weren't showing up like in in a like a

00:36:32.560 --> 00:36:38.960
an indecent garb like they weren't showing up in a in a thong and no pants

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:44.320
like something that's like clearly you know sexually inappropriately smells bad

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:48.480
yeah and um and so

00:36:45.359 --> 00:36:50.000
i can i can tell you my solution

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:55.119
um in a way that will make it very difficult for you to track down who it

00:36:52.240 --> 00:37:03.440
would have been okay but at some point in our process of doing annual reviews

00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:05.440
i added a field about professionalism

00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:09.839
and about maintaining appropriate personal hygiene

00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:14.000
for the sake of the comfort in the workplace of your

00:37:11.680 --> 00:37:18.000
colleagues because i do know about that field because i've been in there because

00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:21.440
i wore pajamas to work that was the professionalism over there

00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:28.079
yeah and so um by the way yes shorts

00:37:25.359 --> 00:37:32.480
yeah the shorts i've never cared about the shorts have never bothered me

00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:40.400
it was it was when you would literally like roll out of bed go to work and be

00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:43.200
like wearing a shirt that's like stained

00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:48.320
and like pj pants that are ripped to hell like to the point where yeah to the

00:37:45.359 --> 00:37:52.480
point where it was a little indecent so every single pair of pajamas that i

00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:56.000
have has a hole in the crotch so anyway i buy new pajamas so so so these are

00:37:54.560 --> 00:38:01.520
things that i've actually had to worry about like am i being the

00:37:57.839 --> 00:38:04.000
the the the uh the the anti-deodorantist

00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:08.480
you know grandpa who's like you shouldn't smell pens

00:38:06.640 --> 00:38:12.400
who knows that's like i'm running into these situations that is a cultural

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:16.800
thing like there's people who are anti anything that's unnatural shaving

00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:20.800
deodorant that kind of thing and uh you know maybe i'm crossing a you

00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:24.079
know a personal boundary by being like yo you smell

00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:30.240
in a manner that is my discomfort level is about here right

00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:34.960
now you know yeah i have no i have no idea so there

00:38:32.720 --> 00:38:40.000
you go anyways next sponsor they're like no this is irrelevant old people don't

00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:41.440
care about bad smell which is

00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:47.839
you know what no i'm not gonna get into it because maybe some of the best like groomed people

00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:51.760
that i know are older people yeah some of them and i

00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:57.680
think it gets to a certain point where it becomes it becomes it's not that they don't care

00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:01.839
i think well okay some of them probably don't care like some people okay so

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:05.440
there's two things there's actually a number of factors here i think some

00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:10.079
people get old and give zero f's about anything yes and they're just like yolo

00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:13.520
also i'm close to the end of it so i'm just not going to stress about

00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:16.800
this stuff other people get to the point where they can't really care for

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:22.160
themselves properly anymore and like that makes them unhappy actually or it

00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:24.480
would be extremely tedious to do so so

00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:27.920
um steve jobs apparently didn't shower i do know that that is a thing like not

00:39:26.560 --> 00:39:33.119
showering and letting your body's natural flora like take care of itself

00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:36.480
is apparently theoretically a thing um i haven't actually

00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:40.240
like smelled someone what do you do about grime

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:44.400
in that case i don't know it's just like what if you get dirty like a file you

00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:48.960
know scrape it off i don't know

00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:52.160
but that's like that's my thing do i smell like i know how this works

00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:59.280
uh not that kind i guess you smell fine you smell neutral there's no there's no like

00:39:57.520 --> 00:40:02.320
yeah i didn't actually notice any smell

00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.800
difference if i can walk into the room and nobody notices i consider that

00:40:04.240 --> 00:40:10.800
optimal yeah um okay okay sorry let's jump into our next thing um

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before this moment right now i have oh okay cool yeah i'm gonna go get it

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because i only have one browser extension installed right

00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:50.560
now so i don't have like a super loaded up browser yeah yeah so that seems like

00:42:49.200 --> 00:42:54.480
that sounds like a pretty good one i have

00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.680
four i think not a crazy amount all right got a

00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:03.520
couple more topics here there's a leaked Intel sorry Floatplane at some point yes

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:06.880
there's a leaked Intel road map um it's on wccf tech so you take it with a

00:43:05.359 --> 00:43:11.520
grain of salt this was posted on the forum by numlock21

00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:17.760
and apparently um Intel cascade lake x is confirmed for

00:43:14.720 --> 00:43:20.880
hedt it'll be arriving on x 299 slash

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:23.520
lga 2066 in late 2018 so none of this is

00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:27.599
surprising at all uh because that's what Intel does every

00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:31.280
generation they launch a new chipset with cpus then they do a CPU refresh

00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:34.000
then you get a new chipset then you get let's see okay

00:43:32.720 --> 00:43:38.720
um also this is ground breaking news coffee

00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:42.079
lake x s s not x will apparently get dual core processors and there will be

00:43:40.160 --> 00:43:47.760
more processor updates in 2018 along with z390 and b360 chipsets

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.520
okay blah blah blah blah blah blah no mention

00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:56.079
of eight core processors though those have been rumored

00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.560
and uh gemini lake goes in n-series

00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:02.640
processors features 10 watt TDP and four slash two core variants so these are 14

00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:07.040
nanometer goldmont cores and those are apparently coming in the 52nd week of

00:44:04.240 --> 00:44:10.000
2018 so end of next year okay neat now let's talk about stuff

00:44:08.560 --> 00:44:13.680
that's coming a little bit sooner this was a post-posted by aluminium tech on

00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:19.520
the forum and the original article here is from qualcomm.com

00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:23.839
they've got a new CPU coming

00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:23.839
the 845 mobile platform

00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:30.079
um yeah your next phone your next phone will

00:44:28.160 --> 00:44:32.960
have one of these unless you buy a phone right now

00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:40.800
yeah and then or like a cheaper one or an iphone

00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:40.800
and it will be a little bit better

00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.520
um

00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:51.599
how much better you say 25 to 35 percent faster than current

00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:56.960
snapdragon 835 it can apparently record 480 FPS video

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:59.680
at 720p or 240fps at 1080. that's pretty cool mind you

00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:08.359
light most phones absolutely kill their image quality yeah when you're recording

00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:12.319
at high frame rates so even though it is

00:45:08.359 --> 00:45:15.200
1920 pixels by 1080 pixels

00:45:12.319 --> 00:45:20.640
it looks blocky and like trash yeah so

00:45:16.839 --> 00:45:23.200
yeah although the 25 to 30 faster thing

00:45:20.640 --> 00:45:26.160
is gonna be interesting to check out because uh

00:45:25.200 --> 00:45:31.359
yeah this is the first qualcomm soc to have a secure processing unit so this is a new

00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:35.280
subsystem to protect data like your fingerprints iris mobile payments sim

00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:39.119
and more that's interesting but it's probably

00:45:36.560 --> 00:45:42.640
like super cracked already why would it be if it stores everything

00:45:40.720 --> 00:45:46.960
locally um yeah but there's

00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.960
i

00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:54.480
american government thing

00:45:52.640 --> 00:46:00.480
oh i have the fcc in my head that's obviously not it yeah the um nsa nsa has

00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:04.880
nsa tools or whatever and those have leaked repeatedly and considering how

00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.839
delayed this is compared to apples i wouldn't be surprised if it was like

00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:11.280
developed in cohorts with them

00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.280
i know it's like tin foil hatty but these things keep coming true

00:46:13.680 --> 00:46:21.520
so i don't know and those uh nsa tools keep leaking

00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:25.920
so like random pirate groups keep getting access to them and then it's

00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:29.359
super not secure so i don't know i i wouldn't absolutely trust it but hey

00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:33.760
cool uh in other news this was originally

00:46:31.200 --> 00:46:38.400
posted on anantech.com AMD has apparently

00:46:37.200 --> 00:46:44.880
silently lowered the spec

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:45.760
of their rx 560

00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:52.880
yeah um to basically

00:46:49.359 --> 00:46:55.200
a previous generation spec

00:46:52.880 --> 00:47:01.359
update an AMD statement given to our sister site tom's hardware confirms the

00:46:57.680 --> 00:47:04.160
two rx 560 variants and AMD also noted

00:47:01.359 --> 00:47:08.319
that aib partners so like sapphire MSI etc would be responsible for

00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:11.319
communicating a given rx 560 model's specifications

00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:18.560
wow so you can either get 14 compute units

00:47:14.640 --> 00:47:21.280
or 16 compute units buying an rx 560.

00:47:18.560 --> 00:47:23.599
this is trash and AMD should feel terrible

00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:29.200
and they should not do this so with an rx

00:47:25.839 --> 00:47:32.440
560 let's go with the 14 compute unit

00:47:29.200 --> 00:47:37.280
model you can get 14 cus and

00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:39.280
896 sps now comparing to an rx 460 which

00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.520
has 14 cus and 896 sps one of the big reasons why

00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:46.720
people are pissed off is because it's essentially a 460.

00:47:47.839 --> 00:47:54.720
like if you want to sell slightly disabled 560 with less RAM why don't you

00:47:52.640 --> 00:47:58.000
just sell 460s how complicated is that

00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:02.319
yeah wow it's polaris 11.

00:48:02.560 --> 00:48:08.160
like honestly it's the last time like

00:48:06.319 --> 00:48:11.599
this is not the first time for AMD like i don't know if you know this

00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:16.160
but i still remember one of the most

00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:18.720
pissed off that i have ever been

00:48:16.160 --> 00:48:24.240
about a technology purchase was when i bought a sapphire Radeon 9600

00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:28.880
non-pro and this was back like almost 15 years

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:32.880
ago like back when that was a somewhat respectable card but nearing

00:48:30.720 --> 00:48:35.760
the end of its life cycle so it was like uh it was like a

00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:39.520
value gaming card so i already had my own

00:48:37.680 --> 00:48:44.800
gaming rig but i was upgrading my parents computer so that my siblings

00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:46.160
could play like sims or whatever

00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:51.839
and what happened was sapphire called the

00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:58.160
card radio i ended up on the phone for literally hours with both sapphire and

00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:01.599
AMD support over this when i found out

00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:03.680
that this 9600 and in this case it was

00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:08.640
not marked in any way on the box that this 9600 was different from a normal

00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:13.119
9600 when this 9600 had i forget what the difference was i

00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:16.400
think it had um a narrower memory bus or something like

00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:21.760
that like it had a like a 64 versus a 128-bit bus or

00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:25.760
something along those lines and there were no specs online other

00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:31.040
than the specific product page for this sapphire card which was like hard to

00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:34.640
find on their site that made it clear

00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:37.920
that it was not a normal 9600.

00:49:34.640 --> 00:49:40.800
i thought we were past this

00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:45.920
i don't really get why tech companies feel the need to re-badge especially in

00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:50.880
this manner when they already had a product that they could have just sold

00:49:48.160 --> 00:49:56.319
as this now there are some differences the new one compared to the 460 can go

00:49:53.440 --> 00:50:01.359
down to a lower TDP so as low as 60 watts versus approximately 75 watts and

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:05.920
it's available with just 2 gigs of RAM instead of just being a 4 gig part

00:50:04.160 --> 00:50:11.040
but i feel like it would have been a lot less misleading to just call this a 2gig

00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:13.839
460 and just make it available

00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:22.800
especially because like in in their update statement to be clear they said

00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:26.559
we're working with all uh we're taking immediate steps to remedy this we're

00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:30.960
working with all adam board and channel partners to make sure product

00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:33.040
descriptions and names clarify the cu

00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:36.240
count so that gamers consumers know exactly what they're buying that's not

00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:40.240
going to work we apologize for the confusion this may have caused that was

00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:42.720
intentional that's bs the reason why it's not going to work is the vast

00:50:41.359 --> 00:50:48.000
majority of consumers don't know what a freaking cu is yeah of course not

00:50:45.359 --> 00:50:51.359
they're looking at a model number or model names all they had to do and

00:50:49.839 --> 00:50:54.640
they've even done stuff like this in the past all they had to do if they were

00:50:53.119 --> 00:51:00.319
going to do a cut down one is call it ellie or xl or something along those lines

00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:06.400
like there are something there's plenty of precedent that already

00:51:02.640 --> 00:51:08.160
exists for how to do this properly

00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:13.119
and they just decided not to this is really bad for AMD because AMD was very

00:51:11.040 --> 00:51:16.800
much in the for the people yeah they're supposed to be like you know the good

00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:21.599
guy underdog like that's their brand image that they project the last like

00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:24.559
major controversy that i know of on what this scale should be but this doesn't

00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:31.680
seem to be blowing up as much probably because not an insane amount of people are buying 560s and a lot more people

00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:33.599
had purchased 970s was the RAM issue on

00:51:31.680 --> 00:51:37.280
970s that was the last big time that it was

00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:40.480
like this is essentially being lied about

00:51:38.240 --> 00:51:45.119
yeah all right

00:51:42.319 --> 00:51:49.839
um not good man sneaky deaky stuff not cool what else we got here

00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:53.839
um oh yeah sure why not oh steem no longer accepts bitcoin

00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:56.720
oh um i actually didn't even know that they accepted bitcoin as payment didn't

00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:00.559
you the original poster here was vegetable stew we'll go ahead and pull

00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.559
up

00:52:02.640 --> 00:52:08.640
okay so first of all anyone who is giving me crap about using the word

00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:12.559
volatile to describe bitcoin you can go ahead and give uh valve a bunch of crap

00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:17.040
for it too because there's all the instances of volatile or volatility in

00:52:15.359 --> 00:52:21.119
the first three paragraphs of their statement on why they are no longer i

00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:26.800
don't think it's completely invalid to use it's just going to trigger some people yeah so yeah there you go so go

00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:30.720
ahead and get triggered by valve too um i actually yeah i had no idea that

00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:35.760
they didn't accept it so when they first added bitcoin as a method of payment

00:52:32.160 --> 00:52:37.680
transaction fees were as low as 20 cents

00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:40.960
now they've crept up as high as 20 dollars per transaction

00:52:39.680 --> 00:52:44.640
uh these fees are passed on to the consumer and they result in unreasonably

00:52:42.720 --> 00:52:47.920
high costs for games also the value of bitcoin is only

00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:51.280
guaranteed for a certain period of time so if the transaction doesn't complete

00:52:49.520 --> 00:52:54.559
within that window the amount of bitcoin needed to cover the transaction can

00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:58.559
change um well the normal solution is either to

00:52:57.040 --> 00:53:03.119
refund the original payment or the user or ask the user to transfer additional funds but

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:06.400
both in both of these cases the user is hit with the transaction fee again not

00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:11.599
to mention that this is like a customer service overhead nightmare

00:53:09.200 --> 00:53:15.920
for any retailer or retailer they've said they'll reevaluate it at a later

00:53:13.520 --> 00:53:21.520
date and i don't blame them at all with all of that said are we planning to

00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:24.160
support bitcoin on Floatplane we want to

00:53:21.520 --> 00:53:27.520
and what are the obstacles right now you can if you can talk about it so okay

00:53:26.160 --> 00:53:32.319
the main obstacles right now to be completely honest is everything else

00:53:30.240 --> 00:53:37.040
essentially is a higher priority the site's not up uh payments for

00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:42.240
the current payment system on the forum is atrocious um

00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:46.559
and we need payments for credit card to work and we need the new implementation

00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:51.520
for payments for paypal which will be braintree to work

00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:54.319
and i want essentially i want the mvp of the site to be up i want people to be

00:53:53.359 --> 00:53:59.839
using the proper domain not going through the forum i want all that other kind of

00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:03.440
stuff done and then we'll look into supporting bitcoin but there is going to

00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:08.640
be more issues once we start doing that um

00:54:06.319 --> 00:54:13.200
how do we deal with fraud okay i literally don't know

00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:17.200
like on bitcoin you mean yeah right i have no clue

00:54:15.680 --> 00:54:21.040
yeah that's fine got it like what if there's fraudulent transactions there's

00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:25.680
no i can't go contact someone's bank contacting the

00:54:23.200 --> 00:54:29.440
it's their wallet like i can't do anything like that um i'm not

00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:34.000
entirely sure how refunds work i think we would be on the hook for the transaction fee for refunds right where

00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:38.960
with most services like you get a refund of the

00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:42.720
transaction fee yeah and if if it's a 20 transaction fee that could drive us

00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:46.400
under pretty fast if uh yeah like there there is a lot of potential issues we're

00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:49.920
going to look into it i haven't looked into any of those issues yeah i don't

00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:53.359
know so there might be none yeah maybe i don't know it's just not

00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:58.640
very high on the priority tier we just need to know can i do this maybe no can

00:54:56.160 --> 00:55:02.720
i try i would really prefer not they're literally working on it right now

00:55:01.040 --> 00:55:09.280
is it worth a shot come on let's try it you only live once

00:55:07.680 --> 00:55:13.359
what's that okay i want to put a giant disclaimer

00:55:11.200 --> 00:55:18.800
here last time a whole bunch of people signed up for Floatplane um on the forum

00:55:16.640 --> 00:55:23.839
and paid for their access and then were very upset when they couldn't log into

00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:28.160
this site to access it yes um just like last time this is not the site that is

00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:33.040
working right now at all to access Floatplane it's the

00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:36.480
front page of the forum and then if you are subscribed it is at the top of the

00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:40.960
forum there is a Floatplane section yeah i'm not logged in yet right now but

00:55:38.720 --> 00:55:45.520
uh that that's normally how you access it yeah but um you know i mean

00:55:43.839 --> 00:55:48.920
hey come on you only live you only live once right baby

00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:55.200
uh oh that's weird um i i don't i didn't

00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:58.480
uh did uh who oh

00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:04.240
uh when did that happen can you use your thing no why i don't know can i um that

00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:09.920
thing's being used by swedish bros for development oh um okay so now what uh i

00:56:08.319 --> 00:56:16.690
can make you one dang it danny why are you what is this

00:56:13.040 --> 00:56:18.319
what are you doing well i i i

00:56:18.319 --> 00:56:25.040
usually do that and then just cover it with the camera right uh no i usually

00:56:21.680 --> 00:56:28.319
use the other one oh yeah

00:56:25.040 --> 00:56:30.799
ah okay well uh do it do a news topic

00:56:28.319 --> 00:56:33.440
okay or we can switch and i can set up a different account that you can use no

00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:39.680
it's fine just uh just do a news topic in the meantime i got this all right all right all right give me a sec

00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:43.119
so it's not in the dock but you might even be able to talk about this while

00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:47.760
you're covering that um and nick has a link for me apparently apple is

00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:50.880
acquiring the music recognition app shazam

00:56:48.799 --> 00:56:55.920
interesting um i actually did already read about this uh apparently it's some

00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:58.799
amount less than a billion dollars so

00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:04.240
that's good if you're apple i guess because i don't know if i would pay a billion dollars for shazam shazam

00:57:02.319 --> 00:57:07.599
but um i mean i don't know if this is reactionary or if this is something that

00:57:06.240 --> 00:57:12.799
they already had planned but this definitely helps apple address google's

00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:17.040
implementation on the pixel on the pixel 2 rather anyway where the device is

00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:20.240
always listening to music around you as creepy as that is um and we'll just

00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:24.720
display passively on the screen of your phone

00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:30.480
what um what song is playing so

00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:33.359
other than helping siri better recognize songs

00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:37.040
i don't really know what the benefit of this is for apple but it goes to show

00:57:35.040 --> 00:57:41.760
you that they are they are sure willing to spend a lot of

00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:47.119
money to have it be slightly easier to find out what song and also

00:57:44.799 --> 00:57:55.839
i guess you could have just used shazam but not do that for a billion dollars

00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:58.079
less than a billion dollars yeah um

00:57:55.839 --> 00:58:01.680
so yeah what oh okay why are you why are you trying

00:57:59.839 --> 00:58:05.680
to show that well i wanted i wanted to i wanted to try it well i was going to

00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:08.799
link it to the other one and then i was going to like go through

00:58:07.040 --> 00:58:12.400
and i was going to use oh but yeah there's nothing to use right now

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:18.240
oh that like the videos aren't there yet no

00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:19.920
oh okay i thought they were no okay so

00:58:18.240 --> 00:58:24.319
we're making that part just work for live streaming oh for now oh right live

00:58:22.720 --> 00:58:30.319
streaming is going to be a thing soon yeah all right so right now on Floatplane uh

00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:35.440
we've got the porsche design just make sure that you're covering up

00:58:32.799 --> 00:58:40.000
we've got the porsche design book one see look i'm driving a laptop

00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:45.200
oh i actually didn't put that together right away oh

00:58:42.720 --> 00:58:50.640
oh my goodness we've got our review of the arrow 15x this is a thin and light

00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:54.240
with a gtx 1070 wow it's pretty impressive

00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.760
and they managed to do it with the touchpad in not a stupid location does

00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:02.480
it can we can we get a little spoiler does it throttle um it's really good

00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:06.079
okay yeah it's like really impressive um

00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:10.480
we finally yeah pretty much every laptop throttles

00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:15.520
under combined load though yeah yeah so we finally released our video on vega

00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:20.000
frontier edition the teaser for this is amazing yeah this is

00:59:17.680 --> 00:59:23.200
this was a freaking saga

00:59:21.040 --> 00:59:28.400
uh brandon's smartphone camera showdown which we promised in the next week or

00:59:25.520 --> 00:59:32.799
two after whatever video i was recording when i was like yo brandon why don't you

00:59:29.839 --> 00:59:36.640
do your smartphone camera showdown is finally up on Floatplane so he compares

00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:41.680
the iphone 8 plus with the note8 with the v30 with the pixel 2 xl so we don't

00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:46.640
have the iphone 10 in there but my understanding is a is that it is a

00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:49.119
pretty similar camera to the iphone 8

00:59:46.640 --> 00:59:53.119
plus so i'm not too worried about it um

00:59:50.240 --> 00:59:57.680
we've got the ev the crowd-sourced surface competitor

00:59:56.160 --> 01:00:00.799
and then uh i don't think this handy tech has made

00:59:59.359 --> 01:00:04.319
it onto youtube yet either handy tech old is new

01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:09.599
again so we've actually got a lot of stuff on there including a couple tech quickies uh does overclocking voyager

01:00:07.839 --> 01:00:13.839
warranty for example so if you cannot wait to find out then you can sign up

01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:19.359
for Floatplane where you'll get one weak ish of early access

01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:22.720
one weak ish it's ish don't worry about it yeah

01:00:21.520 --> 01:00:27.200
all right honestly i don't know what else we got

01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:32.960
oh nintendo games are coming to the NVIDIA shield in china yes no way super

01:00:30.160 --> 01:00:37.920
weird i actually did miss this yeah i are game consoles still

01:00:35.520 --> 01:00:41.200
no no yeah they're not outlawed so what what is that

01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:43.920
NVIDIA and nintendo's partnership with the switch

01:00:42.640 --> 01:00:50.559
something something yeah so NVIDIA provided the hardware something something so they teamed up

01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:54.799
in china today NVIDIA shield is getting nintendo games what

01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:59.200
so you can play new super super mario bros wii legend of zelda twilight

01:00:56.799 --> 01:01:02.480
princess and punch out what yeah

01:01:01.200 --> 01:01:08.400
apparently all of them have been remastered in 1080p for the shield this

01:01:05.359 --> 01:01:09.359
is from slash gear by the way

01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:15.520
what i don't know where this is mario galaxy is coming

01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:20.559
what why can't i get this why is it only in china oh i hate you so much nintendo

01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:25.920
every time you seem like you're getting cool you're

01:01:23.040 --> 01:01:31.040
actually not cool and you're just like a little bit cool

01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:36.240
oh man oh the switch is not available in china

01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:40.240
yeah there you go that sucks

01:01:38.799 --> 01:01:44.000
all right well i'm pretty much i'm pretty much

01:01:42.240 --> 01:01:50.839
done thank you for tuning in to the WAN Show we will see you guys again next week

01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:54.000
same bat time same bat channel

01:01:50.839 --> 01:01:54.000
bye okay

01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:03.749
it starts at 300.

01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:21.400
i also didn't take

01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:25.599
so it'll give you a warning