The WAN Show: VALVE SPYING ON US?? GTX 750 Ti Launch - Feb 21st, 2014
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2014-05-07
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19,591 words · ~97 min read
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hilarious it's completely ridiculous obviously the concept was never going to
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work it's a miracle they beat four gyms they haven't beat any more gyms since
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then have they I'm how many I think they're past four gyms whatever there
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last time I checked they were uh out of the Safari Zone it's ridiculous I mean
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they're moving on to bla so I can't remember the exact count The Fad will
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end and then that will be that yeah probably but I fully expect them to do
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at least one more game like I I expect them to try like Final Fantasy or
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something good luck they're going to fail I mean but I could see them trying
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it I'd be surprised if a thousand people on Twitch could beat like could could
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finish like the Leo kefa like basically cut scene fight never mind beating any
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of the actual bosses I mean there's only one correct this is the thousand monkeys
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with typewriters thing all over again right right have you seen the Democracy
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mode though I have not seen democrac
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Anarchy and democracy votes so to to get into democracy vote there has to be more
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than 80% of people I think it is voting for democracy and then it'll switch into
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democracy mode and then when you're in democracy mode I think you need 50% of the votes or more to go into Anarchy
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mode when you're in democracy mode you have 20 seconds to propose your next set
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of steps so if you were like up four left three that would mean he would go
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up four squares then left three and you have 20 seconds to vote and then he does
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whatever the votes okay but with an actual okay especially with the one
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minute delay that twitch has now yeah yeah boss fights and Final Fantasy good
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luck that's Absolut the most hilarious thing about it right now is that there's
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a huge delay no I know so that after after they fight someone they just kind
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of sit there and go like CU they're hitting like all the
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inputs from a minute ago so every time after they do something major they just
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kind of like run around and open the start menu for a while and then after
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like a minute they actually start going
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somewhere like okay good try all right
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well welcome to the show on Twitch that does not involve playing Pokemon
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although at some point we should probably just do like a like a Pokemon
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Afterparty CU I love Pok I have a Pokemon Stadium for N64 that would do it
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that would definitely work yeah I also have the adapter for N64 controllers you
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can plug uh Pokemon like old school Pokemon games into your N64 so if we
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wanted to do that style we could do that as well why does this not surprise me at
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all like if someone had asked me if someone walked up on me on the street
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and said do you think Luke has like you
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know some random freaking adapter the last plug some random freaking cartridge
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into some other random fraking thing I'd be like yeah he might not know where it is
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but he probably has one it somewhere I also have one for SN just in
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case that just in just in case we want to switch consoles yeah just in case
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that that that's a thing that's a problem all right guys we've got a great
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show for you today is valve watching you
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browse that was the rumor going around on the internet and CEO Gabe Newell has
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stepped down from on high to deliver his word onto the masses we'll tell you more
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about that later Facebook has acquired WhatsApp for 19 billion that's with a B
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billions of dollars um which is equivalent to about what was it $43 per
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user something along those lines 43 $48 per user that's ridiculous about $43 per
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user in spite of the fact that not a single one of those users users has
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given WhatsApp probably more than about $2
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ever so um next up uh Oculus Rift you might
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be able to watch movies on it now which is kind of insane there's one coming on
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the way and Google Project Tango which we'll get more into later all right
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everyone can be perfect like you all right so we had a couple people yeah
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let's just pull on the mic there we had a couple people complaining that the
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audio levels are too low so we're going to move the uh mic phone just right into
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the shot to the point where hopefully you guys can hear it okay all right
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first topic for today here we go I'm going to monitor to
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make sure that people like the volume so just keep going forward are we starting
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with that segment we are just going to start this is an oh wait oh I got the no
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okay we're GNA have to do it we're gonna have to do it in a couple minutes do it later okay y yep all right so let's kick
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off with OMG is valve spying on us all
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and we would know that for sure if I had remembered to grab my DisplayPort to
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HDMI adapter I'll be back in a moment in the meantime do you want to get started
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on that sure so essentially no
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um yeah I I don't a lot of people freaked out because they're like oh my
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God Val's reading my stuff but not as many people freaked out as you might
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expect because it was valve I guarantee you if this was EA there would have been
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a nuclear explosion of Gamers um but it
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wasn't quite as bad as I think it could have been but the man himself levitated
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from the heavens came down and gave us the answer that we were looking for
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which was that it was not actually malicious did look for things locally
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but then grabbed only those things hashed them sent them back to valve
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servers um verified that you were being
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a cheater and then banned you because apparently the guys creating the hacks
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are getting frustrated that people are using their hacks without purchasing
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them imagine that imagine there being some overlap between cheaters and
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hackers so so cheaters have literally created their own form of DRM that has
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server callbacks so that they can make
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sure that you bought it which is insane
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um so valve kind of piggybacked on top of that tried to detect that and then
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ban users based on that they weren't Banning you based on if you went to the
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website they were not Banning you based on that they were Banning you based on
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if there was call backs because the hack was currently running and they were
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trying to check for DRM so basically that usual DRM nonsense that makes
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people upset that is to say say uh constant phoning home from your software
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is what ultimately led to valve not
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doing that but just exploiting that
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someone else was taking advantage of your computer to send call backs to take
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advantage of the fact that some people weren't paying for their software so
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basically um no honor among Thieves
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companies that design cheats and then the people who use
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them yeah both they they're they're they're screwing each other over so it
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was only active for about 13 days at which point it was able to be
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circumvented because this happens all the time um and they fully expected that
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so it was pulled um uh Gabe is even
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claiming that it's possible that the original thread created throwing them
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under the bus was even just a social engineering attack from the people that
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made the hack or at least inspired by those people in some sort of way which
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does make a ton of sense um sorry uh he's quoted saying uh do we
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send your browser history to valve no do we care what porn sites you visit oh
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dear God no my brain just melted those were his exact terms it's pretty good um
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is valve using its Market success to go evil and then he says I don't think so
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but you have to make the call if we are trustworthy we try to earn we try hard
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we try really hard to earn and keep your trust which I guess that's the only way
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he can really say it it kind of makes sense it does make sense I mean if it
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was anyone but valve yeah everyone would have fre freaked out do I
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particularly I mean do do I like them
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doing stuff that I don't know about I mean it's one of those things where and
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he he even addressed this in his statement which is about this long it's on Reddit and he's kind of going like we
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don't talk about what we do with valvan
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cheat no one does because we can't because if we do then they'll be it'll
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take them less than 13 days to figure out what we're doing and work around it
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again and that that's a big problem to me because what about when they decide
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to be less valve at some point what about when but everyone does this
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literally everyone that has a security implementation has to they'll they'll
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probably contribute to some open open encryption form or whatever but what
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they're using and how they're using it is not going to be on the table at all
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points well remember back in the early days of the lonus tech tips Forum when I
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always used to talk about the new security measures that we had implemented super frustrating and then
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the site would go down like that was like come on man so I understand why
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they're not doing this it just it does make me a little bit uncomfortable
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because does is it anywhere in the steam Ula that they can or can't do whatever
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it is they're doing with doubt it or if
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it is in there is it in such terms that we would never have understood it anyway
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yeah probably or sorry I meant do it as in like uh like there's probably nothing
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protecting us against that in there and there's probably nothing saying that
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they won't ever do it in there like it's probably just not in there at all um
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that being said yeah I don't know again
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I think a lot of people would be a lot more harsh on it if it was EA but then
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again if it was EA it probably would be harsh so I don't know considering the
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like system information call backs that origin already does and they're completely open about
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right I don't know
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so yeah there's that um I think we covered everything with
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that no okay so less than one ten0 of 1%
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of the clients triggered by the second check were actually banned and that was
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570 people no sorry less than one1 1% of
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clients triggered the second check yeah so a lot of them got triggered by the
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first one but way less got triggered by the second one and of those that was
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that that's 570 people that's a crazy amount of people and I mean it's one of
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those things where are we happy that valve is keeping our street safe so to
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speak and but then is it really going to do anything I mean you know what Let's do
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let's do uh let's do a little poll here hold on I've never actually used straw
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pole before but I'm I'm going to hope me not me sorry straw pole. me I want to
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hear from you guys do you cheat in
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multiplayer it's Anonymous I guess games
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yeah it's completely Anonymous um
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yes sort of all the time and I'd love for you guys to weigh in on this with
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more than just the than just the poll answer if you want to hit us on Twitter
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that's at Linus Tech um so yes
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sometimes yes rarely and
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no all right uh permissive that thing right yes yes yeah
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that's fine y okay I'm gonna go ahead and create that poll just click on it yeah there we go
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all right so we're going to post that in the twitch chat here for you guys I'll
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try to grab it and repost boom all right so in the meantime
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let's move on to our next topic which is Bitcoin ATMs potentially coming to the
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states maybe perhaps not 100% sure there
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is a Bitcoin ATM actually in our home Hometown here in Vancouver and that same
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company is looking to expand to different locations however one of the
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big things that just has to go away with
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respect to how Bitcoin works is the anonymity in order
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for anywhere to allow you to put a
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Bitcoin ATM so the one in Vancouver has a biometric scanner and I mean we can
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talk all day about how easy that is to
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get around that's going to be and how like bull crap that actually is it's
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better than nothing that's true I mean sometimes I this is I mean this is kind
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of a whole other discussion topic but sometimes it's not about making a
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completely impervious security measure just having something there sometimes
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it's about the barrier to entry yeah I mean is a a is a passport impossible to
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forge no but are you going to do it am I
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going to and that's part of that's actually a part of a big security discussion that I was in on not that
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long ago which was the idea of yes okay
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maybe the facial recognition stuff is pretty easy to break through and maybe
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like fingerprint Biometrics are pretty easy to bre break through and maybe
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voice scanning is pretty easy to break through but if I set up a door and have
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every single one of those good luck yep
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like it's going to be real difficult to get all of that before you actually try
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to get through the door and it's not the kind of thing where I think you'll ever be able to replace an armed guard yeah
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if something's actually that value and but if it is then pay the guy 20 bucks
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an hour and give him a gun come
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on yeah yeah I don't know so okay I
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think there was there was kind of more to talk about sorry I got disced so the
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guys putting the ATM in will probably be robocoin which are the same guys that
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put the one in Vancouver like he was just talking about you would be able to
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withdraw money in USD or you'd be able to deposit USD in order to contribute
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rute towards your Bitcoin account um they want to put machines in Seattle and
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Austin by the end of February although they have previously said that they wanted to put machines in New York and
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Los Angeles and that hasn't happened yet due to the problems that lanis was just
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talking about with the the requirement of being able to identify the person at
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the machine it's a sketchy thing for lawmakers they everyone's kind of on the
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fence about allowing Bitcoin into their cities
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essentially and I mean it's one of those things where I think the you know we've
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talked about this offline and I think it's an interesting topic to me the
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biggest reason that I can come up with that I think Bitcoin will fail is the
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negative press you can make the argument all day that no press is bad press but
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bad press is bad press when your competitors are getting good press and
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get lots of good press and as much as Dogecoin started as a total joke and it
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was ridiculous just for a lark they get
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so much good press and good vibe around
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them whereas with Bitcoin every other
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day it feels like there's a there's some kind of news story because they're so
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high-profile it's like being a star athlete in a city that follows you
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really closely your Highs are the expectation and your lows get blown out
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of proportion because you're the big kid so with Bitcoin every time there's a
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wild fluctuation in value it explodes every time mount gaau isn't paying
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people it explodes every time you know
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um a a drug ring or every time there's a
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massive child pornography Bust or something like that and it turns out
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that Bitcoins Were Somehow involved in the transaction any way in any way if
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it's super minor even if because remember it's a lot of the time the
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folks writing a newscast they're basically Layman right
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so even if it was litecoins or dogecoins
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or you know lonus coins or whatever else
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they're going to say inter coin so they're going to say Bitcoin Bitcoin the same way they say cleanex or Xerox
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they'll say Bitcoin so it the name will
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be somewhere in that negativity and for that reason I think that bitcoin's a
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Pioneer I think that it sets a new precedent I think that cryptocurrency
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has a very bright and very long future I just don't think bitcoin's going to win
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in the longer term and then that whole uh like observation what you feel about
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the different coins and the aura around them thing Bitcoin has drug sex and
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weaponry then Litecoin has a whole bunch of people on the internet using AMD
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graphics cards to generate what is essentially going to turn into
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Bitcoins and then Dogecoin is like lol
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charity because I don't know what else to do with
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this so it's like that's how um not
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small portion of the internet sees the whole situation so then what do you
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expect to actually come out of it interesting so I mean with that said if
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Bitcoin is the one that ends up with an infrastructure like ATMs then great but
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if Bitcoin again paves the way by having like four ATMs and then someone better
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organized comes along and goes yep we're going to take that concept and we're
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going to go massively all over the
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country with something that's not Anonymous and doesn't have all these negative connotations around it then
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that could be very successful and that makes sense because bitcoin's going to
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go in and get lawmakers to approve these machines and then when another person
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goes in and tries to put in a machine it's probably going to be super easy CU they will have done it already it's
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tough to be the first one yeah it really is I mean can you imagine if we tried to
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be the first tech YouTuber where would I have even gotten
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the idea like no honestly I mean it's
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it's really tough to be the first one yeah I'm okay with sloppy
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seconds all right so our next story is Facebook a Qui
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WhatsApp for 19
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billion 19 billion so this pretty much
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precludes any further talks with Snapchat because WhatsApp has an
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enormous what is it 470 million users
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something like that and then they're adding 1 million users per day right now
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so okay there's a few different ways to look at this number one is from the
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purely um dollars and cents perspective where
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you kind of go okay so what'sapp this is a company that did I think it was 30
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some odd million Revenue last
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year Revenue not profit this is a company
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with like 50 employees you know those shirt cannons
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that you see at like events yeah it's like Silicon Val like like apple and
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Facebook and these Google just have shirt cannons of money and there's like
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boom boom just like see what we can hit
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who cares no research just boom let's
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just shoot money at everything and see what happens so that is one way of
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looking at it is is they they are spending many many dollars on the penny
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for what the company is actually worth from a strictly Revenue
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perspective and there's some validity
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there but then the other way of looking at it is this $19 billion AC position is
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for a social network and I have a hard
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time classifying WhatsApp as a social network but more on more on that in a
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moment for $43 per
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user and when you consider what other
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social networks there are with that many users and what it would cost to buy you
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know I don't know Facebook is a great example or Microsoft what what that
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would actually cost then it looks potentially like a value and then some
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of the other justification is is the the growth of WhatsApp right now where it's
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a million new users per day and you kind of go okay well then in you know two
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years they could have two billion users
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and a third of the entire world I mean in India 400 million users are on
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WhatsApp or something like that maybe I'm maybe I'm getting the overall
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numbers wrong right now how many users do they have right now India boasts 400
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million active members yeah 400 million active members so
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I mean that that's that's absolutely huge it's an emerging market that you
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want to be able to reach and you could kind of look at it and go okay well
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monetizing such a large user base should be a
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no-brainer so then that leads to two
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conversations before your whole thing about why they why you think they want
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it so conversation number one is I don't
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really see WhatsApp as a social network to me WhatsApp is a messaging utility
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that can come and go as quickly as icq
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MSN or anything else I don't think that
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the experience of using Whatsapp is
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nearly as rich as something like um even
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Twitter because Twitter is all about
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connecting with people that you don't already have a connection to Whatsapp is
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about yo dog I just switched over to this thing because it's free and like I
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don't want to pay for text messages a paradigm that's probably going to go
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away in the next few years as Telos have all moved away from I mean when WhatsApp
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gained popularity we were still looking at cell phone plans that were like
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here's your 250 text messages a month yeah yeah that's where WhatsApp came
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from it was a free way to send text messages not you know some kind of
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amazing Paradigm shifting uh communication platform that connects you
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with people I mean Twitter's amazing through Twitter t i i do most of my
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Outreach to people that I don't know whether it's Nixie pixel who we've
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invited to be a guest on the W show in a couple of weeks so we've had a lot of
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requests for that how would I reach these people if it wasn't for Twitter
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because Twitter is a way for people who normally wouldn't talk to you to ignore
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you if they want or if they see something really interesting as they
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flip through their feed be like oh yeah sure and engage with you WhatsApp isn't
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that so who cares I'm going to cut in one quick
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second um we've got two mixing articles
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one says 16 billion one says 19 billion but it's a lot even at 16 billion it's
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kind of redonkulous I thought it was 19 I thought it was 19 I read another one
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after the ones that you have in the dock that said 19 so The Verge says 16 The
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Verge says 16 yeah interesting okay so there's there's a few but we always run
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into that y so the Internet it's a large
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portion of money no matter what it comes down to so my thing or do you have more
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to go over no no wait okay there was is it a social network and then um I forget
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what the other thing was that's the biggest question to me yeah oh no sorry
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and can they monetize it right uh there's a there's a article that came
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out not that long ago saying that they're not going to be monetizing WhatsApp but then now that it's owned by
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Facebook yeah but no even Facebook I
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think has said that there's there's like they're not changing the structure in
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fact the $1 subscription fee may go away yeah so but that's all fine and good
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because remember guys it is a strategy to build as many users as you can at any
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cost and then exploit them as hardcore as you can until they all migrate to
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something else so the the real question here then is can they get their 19
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billion back before everyone migrates to something else and maybe that's it maybe
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if I look at it and I go you know with my sustainable business model had on cuz
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everything I do here at Linus Media Group isn't on the scale of what someone
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like Mark Zuckerberg is doing where he's working with billions of dollars the way
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that I would work with hundreds of dollars you know when I look at
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something and I go okay we're going to do like a new thing we're going to do t-shirts or we're going to start a new
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show it's where will that show be in
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three years when we're still developing it and we want it to be sustainable to
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the point where we can attract sponsors we can attract viewers and we can make
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both of those groups happy for a very long period of time that's what I'm
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trying to do whereas if Facebook is just
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kind of looking at this going okay well we're not worried about turning WhatsApp
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into a sustainable business that can bring in a billion dollars a year of
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revenue for 20 years because 20 years in the internet game is is an incredibly
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long period I would make a bet WhatsApp won't exist in 20 years so if they're
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looking at it going okay let's make a quick buck in two years we could have
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two billion users and then we could make each of them worth you know 30 40 bucks
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each easily then we'll make double on our investment or if we could turn each
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of them into $100 by selling out so hardcore when the time comes then we
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could make you know 5x back on our
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investment or whatever that number ends up being so if that's the way of looking
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at it then hey there you go maybe it's a
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great idea so go on your next thing one thing I've been worried about is because
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something that we've started doing on the show now because we have to because
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it makes sense is inspect how everything that happens on the internet could be
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terrible so um not that long ago Facebook released an update um and we
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actually missed this on the W show but Facebook released an update M making it
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so that Facebook could read your text messages and like your your call
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information so they could know who you're calling I think that part but I
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know they can read your text messages so now if they buy WhatsApp they'll be able
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to read all of your text messages and all of your kind of text messages
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through WhatsApp so they're just expanding the amount of text messages
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they can read so they can have all of your Facebook interaction which is a
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huge amount of interaction all of your text message interaction and all of your
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kind of text message interaction which is WhatsApp excluding BBM which is I'm
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sure microscopic compared to what'sapp and then of course there's the whole
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argument that they want to they want to get into the underground of messaging
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yeah but then figure out how to monetize it later or something I mean all the
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people that are interested in things like Snapchat or even I guess what's up
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to a much lesser extent um those kind of those underground folks are going to
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have no interest in continuing to use that platform once Facebook owns it I
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would imagine so we'll see how this shakes down I mean like I said if the
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plan is just here's a bunch of users let's milk them for all their worth for
27:39
a short period of time after we build it up into a big thing then there you go
27:43
maybe it works then there you go all right let's go to our straw pool so
27:47
let's go ahead and so 80% of you do not
27:51
cheat and 20% of you cheat rarely
27:56
sometimes or all the the time 2% of you
27:59
say you cheat all the time so if valve
28:03
only even got to stage two with what was
28:07
it 0.1% Point uh what0 one of a percent
28:11
I think it was yeah keep going yeah with 0. one of a percent then that means that
28:17
whatever they're doing probably didn't dig that deep because they didn't catch
28:22
19.9% of the people that right on our stream are saying that yes they cheat um
28:30
and yeah I don't so a wasn't that effective and B so they probably weren't
28:35
digging that deep and the thing is uh and he even said it in the article was
28:39
it it has to be multipronged all the time yeah so this is one of their
28:43
attacks they don't have a single spear they have many so this is one of the
28:47
things they can potentially do they also have the thing where if someone gets
28:51
reported if you're playing the game and someone gets reported I don't remember
28:54
exactly what it's called but my roommate used to do it all the time who was
28:57
actually really cool is you would be able to go in and watch their game along
29:02
with a whole bunch of other people um and it wouldn't show their
29:06
username or anything like that but you could watch their game and then determine yes they're using a hack yes
29:10
they're using wall hack uh plausible deniability like all these other
29:13
different options and then if you voted along the same with basically everyone
29:17
else that voted if you agreed with the ending verdict yeah then you got to keep
29:22
going and keep reviewing footage so it tried to it kept everyone honest because
29:25
if they wanted to keep doing this right had to be accurate all the time um so
29:30
that's another way that they can ban people and that apparently actually works really well and has been a huge
29:34
front for them I know League of Legends does a similar thing um so like they
29:38
have many options so just because this one didn't get a huge wide spectrum
29:42
doesn't mean that vac isn't trying yeah because games like
29:46
Counter-Strike are huge so cheat creators for those type of games yeah
29:51
yeah and considering how long it's been around too like man it's got to be crazy
29:56
oh sorry for the off topic can can you tell me why you didn't like the hobbit 2
30:00
I didn't like it either no I'm not going to rant about hobbit 2 I thought about
30:04
doing a movie review of it but it's one of those topics that seems very
30:08
polarizing um there's a group of people
30:11
that think it's the best movie ever and then there's a group of people that
30:15
don't think it's the best movie ever and I don't really want to have that debate
30:20
because it's like a it's almost like a religious debate at that point how do
30:24
you argue objectively for the merits of a movie you can't
30:30
so I like to use the term exploit in
30:34
games uh as long as it doesn't affect anyone else so single
30:38
player CU if you're if you're exploiting or cheating you're doing something that
30:42
someone else can't so it's affecting other people in multiplay buying
30:45
WhatsApp let's Facebook take out the competition growing bigger Google help
30:48
focus on furthering their yeah probably okay Amed says I disagree
30:53
WhatsApp sends audio video group chats Etc it's not going anywhere just not as
30:58
popular in North America oh it's plenty popular here okay not as popular as in
31:01
other places but it is popular I just don't think that that
31:05
functionality qualifies it as a social network because I don't think it's any
31:10
more of a social network than a telephone that's all my telephone can
31:14
send audio video group chats Etc but
31:18
that doesn't mean that the phone line is a social network to me that's what
31:21
WhatsApp is it's a phone line and a text line um I don't think it's exceptional I
31:26
think that if you Ahmed you decided that you were going to
31:30
switch to something else and a couple of your buddies got together and they were
31:33
going to switch with you and it was free you could all switch like that if the
31:37
functionality was somehow in some way minutely better than WhatsApp I think it
31:41
could be displaced very easily I did use the group chat thing a
31:45
lot when I used to go to school because everyone in all of my classes were
31:49
because in the school I was in you moved as one unit from class to class and I
31:53
use it all the time for badmon as well like you know you know it's 10 billion
31:57
other things I can do that yeah and it's just a matter of them doing something
32:01
stupid and upsetting people and then that being that uh there you go 16
32:05
billion Cash 3 billion Facebook shares um according to wow probably equates to
32:12
19 I guess what's up main appeals to keep in touch with overseas friends
32:15
absolutely but then again hundred billion things that could MSN had so
32:20
much potential I'm not going to go on this rant again but MSN could MSN
32:24
Messenger could have easily been I honestly I think it would the coolest
32:28
thing ever if they just like release a News Bulletin and they're like yep it's coming back yep it's just i' be like yes
32:33
we're getting rid of Skype yeah we're taking on what's because Amazon had all
32:37
this functionality ages ago all they needed was a mobile version yeah
32:44
anyway redirects to YouTube video which redirects to Twitch stream well yeah but
32:48
if we don't do that then we can't reach everyone Carl says with the exception of
32:51
known exploits from ingame glitches I don't cheat why cheat there's no pride
32:54
in cheating absolutely what'sapp isn't anything like Twitter so can't be
32:58
compared yeah I know WhatsApp made me
33:02
able to use smilees
33:06
what that doesn't make it that's you can
33:09
use smilees in I know it's different from Twitter we never said it was the
33:12
same as Twitter what I said is Twitter is a social network and I was saying
33:16
WhatsApp is not so actually that's what I was saying is that they're nothing
33:19
alike I think it comes down to how you define social networks too because it
33:23
technically it's a social network if you create a group chat because it is a
33:26
network of people socially interacting fine then is
33:30
three-way calling a social network see then I don't know I don't
33:35
know all right haven't tried enough of them to say for sure okay lots of people
33:38
not talking yet don't get satisfaction from cheating okay what is the point of
33:42
cheating in games even in single player games that would just kill the challenge
33:46
c i i find certain cheats in single player games to be okay um yeah I've
33:49
done it just cuz I'm like bored I'm like yeah it's usually when you're messing
33:53
around and I usually find those cheats to be like sandbox games like cheat in
33:58
games like just cause and GTA are hilarious right but like I yeah Peter
34:04
figures Karma J takes a giant tur on You for Cheating I certainly hope so I don't
34:08
cheat because getting a ban on Steam would be a disaster with all the games
34:12
that I have y that's that's that's something actually as you build up your
34:16
steam Library larger and larger and larger getting banned will have much
34:20
more of an impact but if you're someone who cheats all the time like I think
34:23
that'll again some that aren't permanent now as well deterrence for the casuals
34:28
are really the big victory because there's always going to be the hardcore guys that have 100 steam accounts each
34:33
with one game you can if if for the csgo players out there I'm sure you've
34:37
experienced this as well if you play CS:GO a fair amount uh I do the second
34:42
there's a steam sale and csgo goes down to like two bucks 50 or like 375 they're
34:48
all back it's oh my God it's terrible for like a little while but then you can
34:53
tell they just all get crushed and then it's usually somewhat okay again but
34:58
like the the the day or like two or three days after a sale starts it's just
35:02
it's ugly it's just terrible and like you can if you suspect someone you go
35:07
and like look at their steam profile and was like created one day ago owns one
35:10
game and you're like oh my God
35:13
hello like that happens so much it's
35:17
frustrating all right so let's move on to our next topic this is something that
35:22
I actually disagree with the general con
35:25
this might turn into a rant uh and Amazon plans to increase membership fees
35:30
this is posted on the Forum by yeah sorry man lot sure um Amazon
35:39
says it may increase its Prime membership fee by as much as $40 so it's
35:44
80 bucks a year right now which is about what I don't know $6 a month or
35:48
something like that if you extrapolate it out uh or break it down or whatever
35:52
it is you're going to do
35:56
um a lot of people super upset about
35:59
this so for those of you who don't live in a country where Prime is an option
36:03
like the UK or the US Amazon Prime entitles you to a few things number one
36:07
and this is the big one is free shipping so you get two-day shipping on
36:11
qualifying items and then slower shipping on other items and it is
36:16
unlimited you could ship a pen a day
36:20
every day for a year to your house and they would have to do it and that would
36:24
be included with the fee so for I mean of course with a game with something
36:28
like this it's a numbers game for every person who ships something every day
36:32
you're going to have hopefully someone who ships something once every six
36:36
months and just bought the Prime Membership on an impulse and you're
36:39
mostly just taking money from them to subsidize and because it's easy yeah
36:43
because it's easy because you don't have to think about it anymore and then you subsidize with that um but guys shipping
36:51
is expensive oh okay sorry I hadn't finished going through the benefits so
36:55
benefit number two is you get access to the Kindle uh lending library which
36:59
allows you to borrow one qualifying book a month out of the sort of the pool of
37:04
lending books and basically amounts to a free book per month there's no time
37:09
limit on how long you can keep that one but I guess you probably have to give it back before you can borrow the next one
37:13
I've never actually used it I don't have a Prime membership and then benefit
37:16
number three is access to an unlimited amount of Amazon's on demand video
37:21
streaming service so for 80 bucks a year if you
37:25
consider and okay it's not up to the caliber of Netflix but when you consider
37:30
that you're paying $6 a month for Netflix and that's just video streaming
37:34
or if you consider that a subscription to audible.com uh one of our sponsors
37:39
actually is going to cost I actually can't even
37:42
remember that's embarrassing so what is what did I get my free Audi book uh yeah
37:47
whatever I can't remember anyway the point is either way if you sign up with our code you get free audiobook yeah so
37:52
yeah yeah exactly head over to audible.com anyway so the point is okay
37:57
okay so if you're getting a free book a month and you're getting free shipping
38:01
on everything even if you shipped yourself so let's say they increase at $40 to 120 bucks even if you shipped one
38:07
thing a month you're still paying about what US Canadians pay to ship anything
38:13
for every thing that it is and if you can't find one thing a month that you
38:17
could buy on Amazon especially with two-day delivery instead of somewhere
38:20
else then yeah it doesn't make sense for
38:24
you but I just find it hard to believe that this is such an enormous deal
38:27
breaker for everyone this is something people don't understand shipping is
38:30
really expensive someone someone in the chat says there's UK fashion site that
38:34
has free worldwide delivery with no minimum spend and it only costs about
38:38
$10 10 EUR a year to get next day shipping although there it's clothing so
38:43
good for you Royal post is cheap and
38:47
it's clothing so there's probably massive markup and margin anyways so
38:51
shipping is expensive and if you think that you're getting shipping for free
38:56
think again you're probably paying you are paying for it you are always paying
39:00
for shipping somewhere so let's take um
39:04
let's take Asian countries for example where worldwide shipping costs like a
39:09
buck you know you can buy stuff on Deal extreme for like a $150 with free
39:14
shipping anywhere in the world how does that work subsidies they are getting
39:19
subsidized I mean we often joke that it
39:22
costs less to ship something from Britain to our house than to sh
39:27
something down the street inite of the fact that if someone ship something from
39:31
Great Britain to our house it will still have to cross the entirety of Canada
39:35
never mind just down our own Street in order to get to us which means Canada
39:40
Post is actually carrying it across the country but if I were to send something
39:43
to Halifax I would probably be spending 15 20 bucks minimum so how does it work
39:49
subsidies in countries where shipping is
39:52
cheap you are paying for that subsidy so
39:56
that someone can pay some other country's shipping company in order to
40:00
move it for them once it gets there so you're paying for it somewhere for
40:04
companies like Amazon where they're shipping within the US where shipping is
40:08
much cheaper than Canada as low as about 250 to 350 per package this is based on
40:13
some numbers that I shouldn't have access to but that's what some a very
40:17
large company like Amazon or Newegg is probably paying with someone like a
40:21
courier that three letters in their name and sometimes they drop things okay so
40:26
it can cost as little as 2 to 350 maybe about bucks all right maybe 450 for
40:32
something let's say the size of like a mouse like like a basic rate that means
40:37
that you paid for it somewhere somewhere whether it's a
40:41
membership or whether it's in the margin of the product and anyone who thinks
40:44
that the margin in electronics is good enough to cover that I I don't know what to tell you
40:51
it's not it's not at all so that's pretty much all there is to it I fully
40:55
support Amazon increasing the rate in order to make the business make sense
40:59
they can't just bleed money on the prime program it has to make sense for them
41:03
and if shipping costs go up because let's face it gas isn't getting cheaper
41:07
then that's what's going to happen deal with it it's still a fantastic deal and
41:12
all you people complaining about it can just because up here in Canada it sorry
41:18
yeah or just don't buy it so don't buy it or don't complain because here in
41:23
Canada do you have any idea what we would give to pay $120 a month for free
41:27
shipping from anywhere it's $120 a year I was like I
41:32
wouldn't do that for $120 a year you could have free
41:36
shipping from Amazon.com boom done well
41:40
yeah definitely do I don't know sucks I
41:43
don't bu anything terrible yeah the pricing sucks yeah but yeah i' I'd be
41:48
completely down um I I okay from another
41:51
perspective I would be not stoked that my price was doubling it's not doubling
41:57
$40 to 79 up to 120 or up to1 1999 no no
42:03
no by up to $40 from 79 yeah sorry it's
42:06
awkward wording in the dou okay so not quite doubling but still by 50% yeah
42:11
like I still wouldn't be stoked but I'd
42:14
probably still do it yeah and I think it's one of those things where there's a
42:17
whole lot of complaining that goes on but then people I think a lot people are
42:21
actually yeah and like they haven't changed their price for what N9 years
42:24
yeah like dude
42:28
prices for them were not the same N9 years ago I don't know what to say
42:32
that's what you that's that's what you get with physical stuff like I don't know if Netflix is necessarily going to
42:37
become more expensive in a short period of time as
42:41
long as they're still growing as long as their user base is still increasing
42:44
dramatically bandwidth costs are going down unless they have to start paying
42:48
isps unless they have to start paying ISP but they're going to keep fighting
42:52
that they're going to keep fighting that and they're they're changing laws
42:55
already or trying to so I guess we'll see not a huge deal are you going to do
42:59
your thing uh I'm going to do that after the next topic let's do one more topic
43:03
um do we want to do the thing yeah the problem is that I forgot to uh I forgot
43:08
to grab the the graphic for it so I'm just going to have to fire up leg Gmail
43:12
here all right and then go ahead and enter the password here and then enter
43:19
the verification code here oh
43:22
fortunately I have my Pebble back 189 582 uh you know I saw so much potential
43:28
in the qualcom talk yeah really saw a lot of potential if you guys haven't
43:32
seen my review of The Talk already even if you're not that interested in smart
43:37
watches well one deal with it because they're going to be a huge huge thing in
43:42
the next five years and number two it's an interesting video to watch cuz like
43:47
not blowing my own horn here or anything but I think it's one of the better
43:50
reviews I ever did um I spent a lot of time with the product I spent a lot of
43:54
time trying to figure out um everything
43:57
that was good and everything that could be improved about it to the point where
44:01
I think it should give you a pretty good idea of where we're at with SmartWatches
44:05
right now so at least it'll give you some context for what's coming in the
44:09
future all right so let's go ahead wow that's brilliant download I know isn't
44:13
it fantastic every once in a while he just makes gold I know all right so this
44:18
is a new segment on the show if you like this segment let us know if you think
44:23
this segment is stupid then uh let us know that too so we are going to try to
44:28
find one thing per week I know this is a tech show and it's mostly focused on
44:32
technology but we're going to find something that is not technology that is
44:36
more important than whatever is going on in the life of Canadian pop sensation
44:42
Justin Bieber so this week is and I have
44:46
been corrected it is not the Ukraine it
44:49
is Ukraine this week there is a whole
44:52
lot going down in Ukraine right now and
44:56
and Venezuela and in Venezuela um Ukraine is the one that's making a lot
45:00
of a lot more headlines at the moment uh just because there's I mean there's
45:05
reactions going on like uh for example there are Ukrainian athletes that are
45:10
just leaving leaving the games just to go home and show their solidarity so uh
45:15
skier and her coach who was also her dad if I recall correctly um are just kind
45:20
of heading back to show their support before their event was over yeah before
45:24
the event was over they're just like you know what screw this they need us back
45:28
home we're going to head back there the the death tolls being reported by the
45:32
media I think are in the 35 range but
45:35
protesters are saying that they are higher than that uh Health Ministry has
45:39
said 77 people were killed and 577 were
45:42
injured but activists are saying it's much higher you know what's really scary about that number is that when I looked
45:47
at it yesterday morning it was 35 if I
45:50
recall correctly that was what was being reported so it's and then the day before
45:54
that I believe it was 13 or 11 or
45:58
something like that so it's it's going up very quickly the violence is
46:01
escalating it's one of those things where on this show we don't typically
46:05
take a stance one way or the other but there are certain things I think we can
46:08
all agree on uh one of them is that the value of human life is something that we
46:13
should all respect and people shouldn't be dying over a conflict the police
46:19
shouldn't be dying the pro testers shouldn't be dying and none of those
46:23
things are right and so it's just something that is more important than
46:27
Justin Bieber in the world right now we're not going to sort of cover this in
46:31
too much depth yeah we're not we're not
46:34
like in the field reporters we we don't
46:38
we do Tech stuff so we just want to bring it up so that you guys can go
46:41
check it out probably in your own time and develop your own opinions about it
46:45
be aware of it is all we're really saying and don't worry too much about
46:49
the be although I heard that the US has to take him back now yeah cuz we won
46:54
hockey yeah
46:57
if you guys didn't hear about this there was a billboard that said um loser keeps
47:02
Bieber or something like that and then it was updated later it was a video
47:06
billboard so what did they say bad terrible bet something like that that
47:09
was a that was a Bad Bet or something like that and then there was a American
47:13
Eagle with a golden chain around it saying bber and I was
47:18
like yikes it was pretty funny it was
47:22
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we have you know it's hard to have a better than Bieber segment when
49:56
everything in your show is more important than Justin Bieber maybe we should just rename the show The W show
50:02
better than Bieber better than
50:05
Bieber okay okay uh actually guys should
50:09
we do a
50:12
t-shirt the W show better than be like
50:16
really small so when people like cuz I mean the Okay the reason we did a couple
50:20
t-shirt designs so they're on District Lines um and the reason that we ended up
50:24
with kind of a a wano logo so this logo right here in the middle of a shirt but
50:29
without the text the wow was cuz we figured people probably wouldn't want um
50:34
you could have like you know the L detective logo that's on the back you could have like hashtag better than
50:38
Bieber hash better than Bieber so we didn't want people asking our t-shirt
50:42
wearers what the heck's a w show because if we put better than Bieber on it then
50:47
people won't have to ask what's the W show they'll just be like oh yeah whatever it is that symbol thing yeah
50:53
whatever that is probably okay yeah sure gotcha gotcha
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so there you go guys uh we have our bro fist design which is that yeah and then
51:05
there's also uh W stealth so oh there we go there you go
51:10
so w stealth looks like that so w stealth so just picture it with like a
51:14
little like better than Bieber right here we should totally do that all right
51:18
moving on to our next
51:21
topic we also have a I'm super stoked
51:24
for the Adventure Time One where is this thread why does this
51:29
happen I looked at this like right before the uh is GNA happen to
51:35
me yes we got to figure out a way for
51:38
the threads that we uh I don't know if that's a Google doc thing or what no no
51:42
the issue is that the thread's been moved or merged I run into this once in
51:46
a while all right so this was posted by neuron knite on the Forum and all that's
51:51
being said is that Elon Musk the founder
51:54
of Tesla among other things has talked to Apple but that an
51:59
acquisition of Tesla is
52:02
unlikely in fact what's the word on the street is what's much more likely is a
52:08
collaboration between the companies which could manifest as a number of
52:12
different things and the one that I would like to see and this is something
52:16
that I called back when the iPhone 3G
52:21
was a big deal because this was an argument like an ongoing argument
52:25
between me and cameraman man the old ncx cameraman who did all my editing back
52:29
then he was like what's Apple's next big
52:32
Direction past smartphones and to me
52:36
tablets are more of like an evolutionary step from a smart it's a big smartphone
52:40
and I said I car and then I home because
52:44
to me those were two things that could
52:48
really truly benefit from the things that apple is so good at and for all the
52:53
people that want to hate on Apple all they want good for you fine
52:56
do it but you cannot argue with how good
53:00
they are at taking existing Concepts and Technologies I mean Logan's video has
53:05
Apple ever really invented every anything is actually a pretty good watch
53:09
you should go check it out but what Apple's good at is taking things that
53:13
are already invented and making them all
53:16
work together in a way that is different
53:20
and easier what could use a shakeup more
53:24
than the car industry
53:27
BMW's new connected car is pretty freaking cool y that's cool but do you
53:33
think that apple with their expertise could probably do it better yeah and
53:37
then hopefully Google will step in as they are and everybody's going to step
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in and blah blah blah blah blah I don't think it's going to look like that I would love to see this I mean maybe not
53:47
quite like this and that's apple design would be a lot better than that yeah it
53:51
would this is just like a like a like a silly fan mockup so don't worry too much
53:55
about that but but something like a like a car that was just truly intelligent
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and upgradeable and app friendly I mean
54:04
that's the problem with the car guys is they all want the 2013 model to not be
54:13
upgradeable because they they want to build in that incremental thing they can
54:16
do with the 2014 model and Apple's as guilty of this as anyone but to a much
54:21
lesser degree than the car guys I think in terms of of being closed off and not
54:26
allowing additional functionality over time and not wanting to give people the
54:30
ability to mod and use the things the way that they want to I mean that was
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the whole thing with the iPhone was I
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mean Apple talked about this a lot way back in the day is we didn't even
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imagine that people were going to create this app for it that's true again though
54:46
um not to bring it back to the BMW car but the BMW car doesn't really have apps
54:51
really installed on it already you plug your phone in and then it grabs apis
54:55
from those apps right so it's not like it's going to go out a date and that was
54:59
actually one of the big things is as your phone updates that's all you need
55:02
to update and then you'll still have more functionality yeah but then a
55:06
problem with that too is that it's not built into the car and it is just apis
55:10
yes so you're not getting that full fluid functionality that you could expect from an Apple car or even say a
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Google car or something like that whereas Apple it'll be seamless you'll
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go from using Siri in your car to using Siri on your phone to using Siri on your
55:24
if they ever get around to making a t TV on your TV and then the one that and
55:29
this was this was the crazy the crazy prediction I made cuz he was like I car
55:34
no but maybe and then when I said I home
55:37
he was like no that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard I home to me what
55:43
it will be is it will be a single piece
55:47
it will be an actual unit that just gets dropped onto a piece of property and is
55:52
fully integrated with Google's new thing we'll
55:56
talk about later that could even work incredibly well and he was like no
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because people won't give up the personalization and the customizability
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of their phone to which I or of their home to which I replied they gave it up
56:09
with their phones before the iPhone it was stuff like the Motorola Razor in a
56:15
variety of different colors Paris Hilton pink or whatever the what that doesn't
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because the layout of every home on the street would probably be pretty much the
56:23
same you look at what Apple does bring one model Market because of well the the
56:28
layout doesn't you Oh you mean like the entire building is a unit the entire
56:32
building I think this is this is this is my crazy future prediction Apple will
56:36
have the iHome which you order through your contractor or whatever it is and it
56:41
arrives on a flat bed and they put it down on your property and that's it and
56:45
it's going to have all kinds of really crazy cool technology so you know Nest
56:49
eat your heart out because this is going to have controlled thermostat controlled
56:53
you know washer dryer and it's going to be crazy expensive if you ever have to
56:57
upgrade anything about it you're going to be locked into that particular model
57:00
in the apple way but it'll all work together in a way that's very cool more
57:04
being like IE apartment I I don't see them doing entire buildings especially
57:09
apartment because like a house that's
57:13
kind of insane um another thing that you could do though is have it be a module
57:16
attachment like like you know how air conditioners sometimes if you have huge
57:20
ones they sit outside your house yep could be like your iome module and then
57:24
you could use something like the Google thing we're gonna talk about later I
57:27
don't want to get too into right now to map your home out so that it can then
57:31
know what's up in your phone in your home and then have the device that s
57:36
sits external or even internal of your house um control everything that's
57:40
inside whether or not it is technically Apple everywhere I could see that
57:44
happening too it's interesting yeah people are hating on my prediction but I stand by it we'll see I don't I don't
57:50
I'm not going to go with your prediction that's fine I know and I know that's
57:53
fine yeah if we if we are if we're still sitting on this couch in 20 years we'll
57:58
see I think we'll hopefully be sitting somewhere else yeah hopefully a
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different hopefully a much better kind of crap my back is like so s
58:08
terrible like oh this couch probably
58:11
smells really bad in spite of the fact it do that we haven't owned it that
58:17
long it's so horrible okay all right so oh yeah one other possible collaboration
58:22
would even just be something like building a a ginormous awesome fact for
58:26
Batteries because that's one thing that Apple has really pushed forward is
58:30
Battery Technology and that's something that Tesla desperately needs to be
58:33
pushed forward so them getting together and working on that together could be
58:37
extremely exciting for the future because really cool as you'll know if
58:40
you watched my Brenton hydrogen reactor video not that long ago fuel cell just
58:44
ain't quite there yet not so much uh should we do bit torr
58:50
live sure or do you want to jump into that Google one real quick just so
58:53
people can know what I'm talking about yeah sure let's do that
58:56
we won't we won't leave them hanging on this yeah so so this is Google Project
59:01
Tango um which the idea is there there's
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a video and honestly I I I don't know if we should watch probably just watch it
59:08
the it's fairly long it's three minutes it's not that bad all right why don't we
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just watch it guys we're gonna watch this video together all
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right my name is Johnny Lee and I work in the advanced technology and projects
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group at Google our small sorry I paused
59:25
it I'm just adjusting the volume for you all team here based in California has
59:30
been working with universities research Labs and Industrial Partners to harvest
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the last 10 years of research in robotics and computer vision to
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concentrate that technology into a very unique mobile phone we are physical
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beings that live in a 3D world yet
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mobile devices today assume that the physical world ends at the boundaries of
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the screen our goal is to give mobile devices a human scale understanding of
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space and motion is going to allow people to interact with their
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environment in just a fundamentally different way and we can prototype
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coule take us months or even years before because we didn't have this
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technology readily available that's what he sees what happens if you have all of
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these pieces in A phone how does that change what a phone
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is okay maybe we don't have to watch the created a
60:23
prototype that gives you guys some idea of what's what's up
60:26
um and then the rest of the video is talking about the excitement they have
60:30
about development for this technology and the Prototype or well devkit devices
60:36
that they have built I think there's 2,000 correct I think there's 200 200 I
60:40
think so we need to sign up for one good luck but sure I will make something in
60:44
unity okay outside of hours I will make
60:48
something up to you I want one of these things I want to mount it to the front
60:51
of an Oculus do or do you just PL want to mount it yeah okay yeah mainly mount
60:56
it to the front of an Oculus though because you know people have been mounting webcams okay so let's talk a
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little bit about what it is more uh they've been working with tons of
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universities research Labs and Industrial Partners spanning across nine
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countries around the world um they've been doing tons of different stuff and
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the goal of Project Tango is to give mobile devices a human scale
61:15
understanding of space and motion a direct quote okay yeah I didn't know if
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that was in the video or not um I do not have audio there it's a direct quote
61:22
from them um it's customized Hardware blah blah blah blah blah basically you
61:26
can walk around with this thing and it can 3D map your environment this is
61:30
supposed to be good because you can translate your position orientation and
61:34
depth to apps um written in Java C C++
61:39
and unity Unity is a very good engine
61:43
for doing stuff with oculus rift so
61:46
they're looking into this as like you can help people that are blind you can
61:50
help uh uh map environment so you could you could look at a different area in
61:54
your house and then digitally put in Furniture which you can already do but
61:58
not very well this you could do it very effectively um you you could find things
62:03
in a store with it more easily you could you could map out an environment in your
62:07
you could go into your garage empty the floor map it out with your phone hook up
62:11
on an Oculus and then have that whole area generated to be something that it
62:15
isn't right now which is really cool or
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you could even do things like I mean a garage cleaning is something that you
62:22
know homeowners like myself are hate and wish that something just do it for me
62:26
what if I could just map out my garage and my phone could tell me the most
62:29
optimal place to put everything why not
62:33
someone could do that that's definitely doable there could be an app for that
62:36
there's also scary implementations um how do you know this
62:39
thing is on how do you know it's not porting that information the NSA it's
62:43
going to help people attract you blah blah blah blah blah yeah there's all the
62:46
terrible terrible hiding behind something it could it could show people
62:50
that you're hiding behind something like there's there's terrible stuff obviously
62:54
like with everything we report ever nowadays I know but um Oculus yeah I can
63:03
see this being super super cool for VR um because something we talked about
63:07
multiple times in the past actually was um Oculus Rift laser tag essentially oh
63:13
wouldn't that be amazing you map the whole house with your phone yeah then
63:18
you throw on Oculus with like laptop backpacks and like oh yeah you could
63:24
even like you could get like armed up and uh get like all kitted out like Jeff
63:30
here Jeff is our co-host by the way yeah Jeff is our is our co-host he's been
63:35
he's well he's more like a producer he's overseeing the operation here yeah um
63:39
but like holy crap for gaming so cool
63:43
this would be absolutely amazing augmented reality virtual reality all
63:47
that kind of stuff that's like the the reality that's different from the other
63:51
more different boring reality oh I
63:54
really hope Paul and the guys at Oculus are just jumping all over this because
63:59
holy cow this integrated with a rift would be fantastic yeah I'd be all over that
64:05
because that's amazing I I don't know the the only thing I care about in this
64:09
whole set is the the ability for it to easily pour it into Unity because I'm
64:13
like yeah although the the helping uh visually impaired is very cool and like
64:19
something they're saying is they could walk around with the phone it could be mounted somewhere or something and then
64:22
it could translate information about the environment around them to audio
64:26
right so you be like oh there's a wall hey there's a car coming there's a car coming uh turn right uh there's a
64:32
crosswalk whatever like it could it could tell you what's going on around
64:35
you which is actually really cool someone's telling me to talk about the new YouTube layout I don't think it's
64:39
good to get me started on that probably not no we're just not going to do that
64:43
anyway extremely exciting totally not here yet
64:47
but uh much hope for the future so
64:50
awesome very good anyway bit torrent to launch a live
64:57
video streaming app this is a story from The Verge and the app will be it's
65:02
actually been available for a while but much like anything that bit torrent does
65:07
it's really not very exciting until there's a whole bunch of users making it
65:11
awesome because it's all based on peer-to-peer sharing so the way it works
65:15
now is if you wanted to watch uh Canada destroy the US I shouldn't say destroy
65:20
it was only one nothing but anyway if you want to watch Canada beat the US you
65:25
have to go to cbc.ca or wherever it is that you're watching it and then they
65:30
have to stream that to everyone the way
65:33
that this would work much like everything bit torrent does is it would
65:37
stream to one user who would stream who
65:40
would take a downstream and then maybe two or three upstreams and stream to
65:44
more users and it would spread that way so that the bandwidth requirements are
65:48
distributed and so that it's much easier to do things that are very challenging
65:53
right now for services like Netflix and YouTube whether it's agreements with
65:57
isps or just plain simple network
66:00
capacity and that is get the content
66:03
closer to the person who wants it and uh
66:07
Netflix has offered to go as far as installing their own Hardware in uh
66:13
isp's data centers so that they can be as close as possible to the people who
66:17
want the content so you're not just wasting bandwidth you know having it
66:21
having the data travel further than it has to well what this would do is it
66:25
would not only decrease the bandwidth cost for whoever's hosting the content
66:29
So speaking of the new YouTube layout if for whatever reason lonus Media Group
66:33
was just like you know what screw it we don't want to do this YouTube thing
66:37
anymore we want to stream our videos ourselves it would dramatically reduce
66:42
the startup bandwidth cost and our Reliance on sponsors to pay for
66:48
it but then you guys would share the burden yeah which is really really cool
66:53
and it's exciting for smaller people like honestly we could probably handle
66:57
it we're of a size now that we could probably do it even if we had to do like
67:02
like a donation thing we'd be like okay guys look we got to pay for our own bandwidth now help us out I think you
67:06
guys would do that but for someone really small this this could save their
67:12
butt and this like some something we talked about in the better than Bieber
67:16
segment people were talking you you did Hot Spot Shield right after that so people were saying if if you're in one
67:20
of those countries or something like that Hotpot Shield can help you get information out if if you want to like
67:25
like stream video a mixture of this and Hotspot Shield could really help you if
67:29
say all you had was cellular data right cuz one upst stream just pushing on one
67:35
dude and then maybe you've got one buddy in the states or something that's got a
67:39
really nice internet connection or or or Europe or whatever that can push out to
67:42
even more and then more more more more more more more it can spread so it's going to be launched in an alpha State I
67:47
think sometime this year was the uh the
67:51
timeline given yeah will be released in Alpha and I mean they are doing so much
67:56
amazing stuff right now speaking of being a Pioneer and trying to shake a
68:00
negative stigma or trying to shake the stigma of being associated with piracy
68:06
and with you know law breaking bit torrent holy crap these guys are on fire
68:12
between bit torren syn this their chat
68:16
application speaking of free Alternatives that could give something
68:19
like whatpp a run for its money I wonder what I wonder what bit torrent is going
68:22
to be valued at in 10 years yeah they're moving they're moving real hard they're
68:26
moving real hard and like we we talked a while ago when they came out uh this was
68:30
back when we were in the garage I think I put an article in the doc saying about
68:34
how bit Tor was like whoa whoa whoa stop attributing us with piracy yeah and we
68:37
were both like yeah we laughed yeah we
68:40
were wrong yep well we're wrong now I deserve
68:45
that moving on um yeah I think that's
68:49
pretty much it last videos would start
68:52
slow yeah all good stuff yep all right
68:56
so watching movies on the Oculus could be a thing I can think of certain kinds
69:01
of movies I would want to watch on the Oculus one of which is obviously the um
69:07
Pirates of the Caribbean there's a new one coming that's where I was going with
69:11
that anyway so this is an article from new
69:14
film school oh man so so zero point uh
69:19
is a project by condition one and is
69:22
actually about the Oculus Rift device and it will be viewable on the Oculus
69:25
drift device which is fantastic um they've also made things earlier that me
69:30
let iPad users move through footage with 120 180 Dee field of vision sorry about
69:40
that I muted that before I started oh
69:43
wow the ad you cannot M the ad that's
69:48
brutal anyway sorry go ahead uh where was I yeah so they
69:54
they're they make this kind stuff and they're going to continue making this
69:57
kind of stuff which is cool I'm pretty excited to see this um there's an
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interactive trailer is that where you were you trailer so apparently the
70:04
trailer has a non-mutable ad so we're not going to watch the trailer um but if
70:09
you want to find it it's condition one.com zero whatever just Google it um
70:14
and it'll be in the doc later once it's posted on the Forum later today
70:17
hopefully so you can check that out um I think this is super cool I think it's
70:21
super cool I mean I don't necessarily see the relevance for something like um
70:27
for something like a fiction like I think being able to walk around in the
70:32
hobbit 2 would have actually even further removed any believability from
70:37
that movie but of course I'm not going to rant about it I'm not I promised not to do that but for something like a
70:41
sporting event oh yeah super cool okay
70:45
so picture this instead of cameras just
70:49
pointing at the ice and you have those viewpoints they have 3D modeling cameras
70:54
so you have them all over the place to the point where you could either attend
70:58
the game in person or you could buy a virtual ticket because they're not going
71:03
to give you this for free no you could buy a virtual ticket and stand on the
71:07
ice epic of a hockey game right think about that Imagine The View modes too
71:11
you know how when you're in a game you can like select different view modes
71:15
free view or like player attached imagine you could just be attached on
71:18
like the head position of one of the players so if you could just like GoPro
71:22
on to any player on the ice if like what
71:25
is it like to play as uh an NFL
71:28
quarterback for a day yeah like you just you buy your ticket which would probably
71:32
be cheaper than an in-person ticket and probably a way cooler experience you
71:36
strap on your Oculus and holy crap we
71:40
need to get this is something I've been interested in for a really long time you know uh like sensory deprivation chamber
71:45
things we need to get those but completely the opposite it needs to be
71:49
like sensory overload chamber where you can wear some type of VR technology and
71:54
then have the this thing inject smells why would we want this and inject like
71:59
temperatures so you could like feel like you are somewhere like if you're running
72:03
through a meadow it's going to smell and feel like you're running through a meadow it can simulate wind it can make
72:08
itell Sate wind oh god um like like uh I
72:12
think it was at Disneyland they have that one where you go over an orange
72:15
field and it smells like oranges while you're doing it that'd be very cool like
72:19
that would be epic and I don't know maybe Sports is going to be smelly but
72:24
like still if they can get that experience so you actually feel like
72:27
you're there oh man that would be so cool Yep this is going to be amazing I
72:31
mean one of the uses they're talking about is in a documentary type films so
72:36
you could see from different perspectives I mean really to
72:40
me this is going to I mean okay there's going to be this in between stage where
72:45
you can do things like pan from one thing to another so like the scene is
72:49
going on like kind of over there but you could go look at the dog if you wanted
72:53
like stuff no one's really going to want to do yeah and that's going to be you
72:58
know you'll need like a fancy camera to capture that but then when what's really
73:02
coming is when you can use multiple
73:05
cameras to capture a much larger scene and then recreate it as a virtual event
73:09
I mean imagine this if uh something like
73:13
what's going on in Ukraine right now if everyone had their cell phones out and
73:17
was collecting footage which is already going on anyway if you could just
73:21
virtually move around in this space if
73:24
you could recreate something like a riot
73:27
or event I mean okay forget forget Ukraine for a second okay so when Canada
73:32
loses hockey games Vancouver riots so if
73:36
the police could take all that cell phone footage Stitch it together and go
73:40
walk through it and find out who freaking started it they're still
73:44
persecuting people for that eh yeah they just Prosecuting
73:49
sorry uh they they just pulled in I think three more people so imagine that
73:54
imagine law en enforcement with this I
73:57
mean yeah but then imagine all the negative things yeah it's like with
74:02
cameras everywhere everything we report on now this is super cool and horribly
74:08
terrible I don't know what else to say
74:11
uh yeah but I'm I'm stoked because it would also be really cool in movies like
74:16
uh that were very like vocal heavy there's a lot of
74:20
talking yeah like that one good scene in The Hobbit stop stop stop okay should
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have seen him the day after he watched the movie
74:30
stop because like if if you could feel like you're partaking in the
74:34
conversation just as a silent member of the conversation that would be really
74:37
cool um anyways moving on to what more
74:42
Oculus mhm like you can tell who works on the
74:46
dock he so they are suspending sales of
74:50
the rift developer kit but will not confirm if there is to be a new
74:55
developer kit available soon so not NE
74:58
they're not necessarily suspending sales they're just not Distributing anymore so
75:01
they're not making them yeah they're not making them anymore so if they sell it in a region you won't be able to get
75:05
them in that region anymore um yay um there there's a whole bunch of
75:10
information coming out about what could possibly be in DK2 development kit 2 and
75:15
a lot of people are wondering if it's going to be a slightly further version
75:18
than Crystal Cove um because there has been people recently tweeting out saying
75:23
that they've gone to Oculus headquarters and have seen something that's just
75:27
absolutely blown them off their feet and they're they're not allowed talking
75:30
about it and all it's going to stuff is under NDA but that was very recent and
75:33
now they're stopping production holy crap I want DK2 now
75:39
development kit 2 now um I'm I'm super
75:42
incredibly stoked there's also another thing um Oculus has filed for rifton the
75:49
trademark for rifton so there's probably going to be some sort of um conference
75:54
VR conference or convention or something
75:57
like that who knows I'd imagine that um it'd be the least expensive conference
76:02
ever to
76:06
attend I'd hope so I'd hope that they would have some way to be able to attend
76:10
it in that form especially with did you see those little like cameras on wheels
76:14
that were going around CES yeah yeah like if they had those but 360 degree
76:18
cameras fantastic yeah that'd be epic
76:23
um yeah so they haven't they hav haven't commented on a kit but I'm it's pretty
76:28
pretty sure a Kit's coming although that could just be hopeful wishing I'm not
76:32
entirely sure speaking of of Wishful hopeful things what if there was an app
76:38
to make it so you can see better skip this ad okay so this is the claim and
76:43
this is on popular mechanics.com this is not on like the onion
76:48
okay so there's a whole spiel about how
76:52
baseball players and such and such they have very little time to something
76:55
something anyway don't worry too much about that what this app does is it
76:59
actually trains the brain not the eyes
77:03
to interpret what the eyes are seeing better so we're going to go ahead and
77:08
this time I'm going to be ready to mute the PC if something disastrous happens
77:11
there you go yes good work go away
77:15
amazing in motion nobody cares okay well
77:18
whatever anyway that's that's coming in a moment not mutable before so what it
77:23
does is it it when you sit in front of it and you you recognize you identify
77:29
shapes for a period of time that I
77:32
actually haven't tried it yet but the whole point of all of this is guys it's
77:36
I'm going to post the link in the twitch chat which I always forget to do I know
77:39
we should do this on every single article there we go so I'm going to post
77:43
the link in the twitch chat and the idea is that by training your brain to
77:47
recognize there you go so you guys can see kind of what's up now you go to
77:51
recognize these things it will allow you to achieve significantly better vision
77:56
and the article claims forget about 2020
78:00
I think they were saying that there were people achieving like 27 which means that you can see from 20
78:06
ft what most people would see from
78:10
7t which is bananas absolutely bananas
78:14
so my suggestion was going to be that we all try it this week and then we come
78:19
back next week and we can do a a Twitter
78:22
Blitz and I'd love to hear from everyone how effective it was for them so that
78:28
that's it it was just something cool that I wanted to talk about which I
78:31
guess is this entire show speaking of something not cool that
78:36
we're going to talk about Irrational Games uh is closing their doors sort of
78:42
as you knew them I think he's keeping about 15 members he's keeping some
78:46
employees um and they're moving and they're they're they're supporting and
78:51
helping the employees that they're not keeping a lot they're even hosting job
78:55
fairs where people from other companies can come to their offices and meet the
78:59
people that they're not keeping and possibly hire them I know Bethesda
79:03
scooped up a few or is looking into scooping up a few and like who's not
79:07
going to want people from a rational games at this point um so I wouldn't be
79:11
too worried if I was an employee at rational games they're not pulling an EA
79:14
they're actually trying to like help their employees out that they're not
79:18
keeping um and they're they're giving the IP of Bioshock to 2K which makes
79:23
sense yep um and yeah he's moving on
79:28
he's trying to do a more entrepreneurial kind of endeavor at take two he was
79:32
going to go fully independent but he kind of said uh this sorry this is Kevin
79:36
LaVine um but he kind of said Okay I want to refocus on a smaller group I'm
79:40
going to go I'm going to go Indie I'm going to go independent and uh you know
79:45
I want a smaller team I want a flatter reporting structure I don't want to be
79:48
such a ginormous you know company working on such a ginormous project
79:52
anymore um we did this we started this years ago and it's been a wild rde but I
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want to do something smaller and take two basically said look let us support
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you within our ecosystem so he's still going to stay there but Irrational Games
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as you knew it is pretty much gone yeah and like they're doing that because Take
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2 helped them a lot in the past as well this isn't really a new thing he's not
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jumping ship randomly this is this is this made sense already so it's it's I'm
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kind of sad but I hope for good things he's quoted saying if we're lucky will
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build something half as memorable as Bioshock and I'm sure considering it's
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Kevin LaVine that he will try extremely hard so I I'm excited for what they make
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um I'm also still excited for the future of Bioshock it's not over I just hope
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it's Bioshock too sure made it look like it was over yeah but then it came back
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but then BioShock Infinite was freaking amazing um I don't know why the whole
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internet like flipped when it became Awards time on BHO infinite everyone
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loved it then it was like Awards time then it was like no it's sucks and then
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it still one things last thing is the gaming The Gaming Community is very
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fickle yeah the attention span is very short and you forget how good things
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were I think I think that's a big problem it's not a multiplayer game so people aren't playing it every day that
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even ties in something that reminded me um of the exact thing that happened with
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BioShock Infinite was um the stares in the next great Starship thing y it
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became the Wild Card round so everyone was voting for what one they thought was
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the best in the wild card so what didn't make it through the judge voting um and
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like a m M percentage of the votes were for something that was from the most
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recent episode yep and that's because when you went to go view it it was just
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names of teams no pictures of the gun nothing like that so even when I was
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looking through it trying to be super objective I was like I don't remember
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two-thirds of these because they're an old episodes like what the heck was that
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so I don't know that's it the internet forgets everyone forgets it makes sense
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the actually I was having this conversation with um with Ed today edel
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our editor anyway um we were Mar at some classic memes that a lot of the
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kids today aren't aware of like all your base has disappeared off the face of the
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Earth replaced by such Doge so coin
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whatever like whatever the the flavor of the day is it is so easy for stuff to
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completely disappear and um and like
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people still remember it but it's not it's not circulated yeah it's it's not
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in the flow like everything else is um speaking oh yeah this is a topic
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that isn't on the dock but I did want to bring up very briefly Square Enix has
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talked about the possibility of more Final Fantasy development on the PC cool
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it's been a long time yeah seriously I mean that was that Final Fantasy sold a
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lot of PlayStation ones and a fair number of PlayStation
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2s um you know I I think a lot of PC
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people would have loved to have I mean they've really expanded the platforms
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that the games are available on a lot over the over the last few years I mean
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the remakes on Android are probably the most notable ones I actually did re one
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of them now that I think about no maybe it was DS yeah I bought like a Final
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Fantasy 1 or Final Fantasy 2 remake for the DS um and that's been such a cash
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cow for them and such a such a great move for them that I really have to
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wonder is anyone at Square Enix watching why the hell don't you go back to making
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good games yeah uh tying into that this
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isn't even in the dock but apparently the the source and everything for Thief
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was released oh yeah it was leaked uh there's there's ending of the game
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videos on YouTube already I think someone was streaming the game on Twitch
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like it's like leaked like out there not
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a little bit um people have mapped out certain levels and people are pissed
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really like not stoked at all especially
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the guys that used to play um Thief I haven't touched it yet I don't know I'm
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not going to touch the leaked code I'm going to wait till it comes out blah blah blah blah blah um but people are
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complaining in because apparently it's just way too easy and apparently someone
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has already beat it from beginning to end without cheating and I think it was
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like 6 hours wow so yeah one thing that
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they do have is there's like uh voluntary difficulty scaling yeah so you
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can put in like handicaps essentially like one of them is if you're ever
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detected you just lose um another one is if you die be anchi it's not AAP it's
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you you get more points okay sure so yeah whoever played a game for points
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I know um like honestly you either beat the thing or you don't like for most
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people I know some people are going to try to get every bandage in Super Meat
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Boy and that's cool I respect that but
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most people don't do that and usually it's a cool addition that's that's how I
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see most achievement kind of things it's like oh I really like this game here's
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something that can get me to continue playing some some sort of goal yeah like
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like with the idea with Thief when I heard about those additional difficulty
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things was oh cool I really liked the
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thief games that's like why I like certain game types now are because it
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reminds me of thief right um so when I
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saw that I was like oh cool once I beat the game once I'm done playing the game
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normally I can go back and put on like a combination of modes where if you're
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ever detected you die and if you ever die it deletes your game so I could do
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that and be like super hardcore and then see if I could beat it like that makes
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sense I mean it's such a fine balance you know what with a series like Thief
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what I'll have what I'll say about that is you're damned if you do your damned
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if you don't if you change the gam playay a lot then the hardcores who
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really loved the old games are going to hate you for it and if you don't change
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it enough then you're not innovating and
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it's it'll be another BioShock 2 what was the complaint about BioShock 2 well
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it was just that they copy pasted how much how much do we complain about copy
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pasting and then how much do we complain when someone actually innovates and my
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point about Final Fantasy I'm going to come back to that for a minute because
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this this is very close to my heart as a DI hard f Fantasy 6 lover is that it is
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not the same thing you do not have to
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make a change to the combat system at
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all you could use a combat system from any decent Final Fantasy game whether
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it's uh five six 79 um I'm just trying to think of other
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ones that I liked off the top of my head but anyway you could take any good combat system and you tie it into a
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halfway decent story with a decent length and that's the kind of gameplay
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it is who plays Final Fantasy for the
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combat that's that's one thing with Thief though that people have been
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complaining about is apparently you can run through the game like a Rambo and
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the whole the whole thing and a lot of like uh reviewers that have been able to
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play it early have been saying it's incredibly difficult to do combat but
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then apparently the guy that ran through it in like six hours just like killed
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everyone and it was like yeah yeah you just shoot everybody and then and then
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pick up all the things which is like not how Thief is supposed to be played
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you're supposed to to not be the greatest combatant you're supposed to
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have to beat the game by stealing things that's the whole point you're a thief so
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I don't know that doesn't make any
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sense no I don't know I'm I'm still uh I
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haven't given up hope I am hoping that it's just some like crazy hype train you
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haven't given up hope yeah when's the last time a game got leaked and panned
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and it turned out to be awesome okay so moving on uh GTX 750 Ti
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NVIDIA's most efficient GPU yet the
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article that I will refer to is our own
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video because this is something we covered it's funny on W show we tend not
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to cover anything that we covered well
87:41
because they just go watch the Youtube video well yeah but that's I mean that's
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assuming a lot that's assuming that people want to watch our YouTube videos
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they seem to I'm pretty you know what I'm I'm going to create a straw pool for
87:54
this I'm you know what why don't you just hate some
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more straw pole. y yep I'm going to
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create a new straw pole do you oh okay here what for what
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do you watch sorry I should probably just start using our own Forum yeah we should probably start using our own
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forum for we have a poll on our own Forum okay LTT plus when plus Tech
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quickie okay uh LTT plus
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when LT only and then when only what what are
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some of the other options anyone watching this show must watch t and Tech
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cookie but well they watch when so there
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are already options in here that don't really make any sense yeah never mind um
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well whatever TQ only find so I'm talking like what do you actually follow
88:44
what do you regularly watch so if this is the only time you've ever watched The
88:47
W show Maybe not maybe don't include W
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but if it's like a part of your thing to watch The W show all the time then
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include it then yeah we're curious we want to know like what you guys are actually watching here so to be clear LT
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is Linus techip YouTube channel TQ is
89:03
the Techquickie YouTube channel my secondary Channel and then when is this
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particular show because there is a large subset of our viewers and I know this
89:12
already that do not watch W show even
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though they're regular viewers like I people like six months in to Luke being
89:21
on the W show but not appearing in other videos we'd have people being like holy
89:27
crap it's slick and like I'm not I'm not like I'm
89:31
not hating on these people or anything it's just it's like um it's just like
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okay you you clearly don't watch The W show and that's fine I think that's
89:39
slowed down a lot there's still a little bit where someone would be like oh my
89:42
God his name is Luke Luke whatever and I'm just like
89:46
yeah yeah and that's fine I mean and some people kind of go away and they
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don't watch it for 6 months and they come back and then then it's surprising
89:53
and that's mostly gone but but I'm just sort of curious how many of you don't in the meantime we'll talk about 750 Ti um
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not a whole lot to say very competitively positioned very power
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efficient very quiet look at that cooler there's like nothing to it at all it's
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kind of ugly it's only about the length of a PCI Express slot which okay now we
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made fun of this both of us you and I are both guilty we trolled the hell out
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of the 650 TI yeah that little tiny PCB
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but then when I needed a car C with an
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h264 decoder on it for my media
90:28
PC what did I have to
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use I had to find that short PCB card to
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install an alen Lee PC Q7 still funny it's still funny it still looks
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ridiculous but there is a market for a card that is very power efficient
90:45
doesn't require an external power connector see no power connector and is
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really really short so you can fit it in almost anything Y and like it it it
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shines as we talked about earlier it shines greatly if you're looking for
90:57
very power efficient mining now all the
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charts that people are showing is um like very heavily based on power
91:06
efficiency it's not the craziest minor out there yeah but for how much power it
91:10
draws it is extremely strong so it's it's that how you're rating it kind of
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deal so if you want to run a ton of these on low amount of power and have it
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output a good amount for how much power you're using that makes sense and then a
91:24
lot of people do worry about that because if you're trying to legitimately make money off of mining your power bill
91:29
is probably kind of really important to you that's a major factor yeah so if you
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can get that down and still be making a fair amount then that's really good
91:38
because you have a if you have to get that that raw profit
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up all right so let's have a look at the straw pole before or did you have any
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more topics you wanted to cover uh there's like random things like uh the
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power laes possibly coming in 2015 there's nothing really else to say about
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that though that's fine um power laces from Back to the Future
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might be coming in 2015 yeah hold I'll find a picture this is posted on the
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verge by The Verge thank you Verge we love you Verge um I think they have a
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video of how it like was worked in I found out why we haven't got Joshua
92:07
tulsky as a guest yet why um well he had a baby oh so he's kind of busy and stuff
92:12
yeah that makes sense yep makes perfect sense that's okay he has all the time he
92:15
wants yep also oh my goodness I got a message Tom Merit also agreed to come on
92:19
the show but he's been like he just started up his own thing he's been crazy
92:24
crazy busy but yeah we definitely want them as a guest so anyway these
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fictional sneakers will be uh will be coming so power power laes yeah power
92:32
laces they're not going to be on shoes that look like this well they they
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should be they totally should be I would definitely get some of those I mean they
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did limited oh my goodness I'm not screen sharing they did a limited edition run uh back in
92:44
2011 y of 1500 of these shoes but I
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would love to see them actually bring the would you wear them yeah you would
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wear them yeah just because the back is the future
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reference if it wasn't for Back to the Future I probably wouldn't get those I
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probably but like because it's back to the future and because certain nerdy
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people would be like yeah then yeah I'd
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do that so nerd street cred is worth
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looking like a dumbass to other people yeah
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okay that's fine I'm not saying that's wrong I wear certain things because it
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has nerd street cred y like that video game high school shirt that you
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apparently never take off sweater yeah
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but yeah all right so let's go to our
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poll what do you guys watch 70% of you apparently will watch
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any crappy thing that we make sweet so that new channel yeah we should totally
93:41
make new channels like Linus stormtrooper armor just doing
93:46
things entirely new channel for this just L and Stor trooper armor takes out
93:51
the garbage reality TV has reached a new
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low thrilling it was raining this time D
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I don't even know if I'd want to take $1,500 stormtrooper armor out in the
94:06
rain well it's plastic it's plastic but even so yeah yeah here maybe I should he
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takes it out in the rain exciting new episode this week on TLC all right so uh
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I can't read the straw pole unless I hold this here uh lius Tech tips and
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Tech or and when gets you better do this okay so lonus
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Tech tips and W show gets 22% of the vote wow only gets 4% that's actually a
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lot higher than I expected uh lineus Tech tips and Techquickie no W show is
94:36
about 2% of the vote that makes sense because that would be people that are watching The W show that are but are
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possibly new to it um Linus Tech tips only is only about 1% again that's
94:44
people that are probably just new to the W show and TW TW quickie TW quickie Tech
94:51
quickie is about 1% as well with only about nine votes so not that many people
94:56
are coming from only Techquickie and now watching The W show but there is
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some of them and the mass majority of people watch just basically everything
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cool thank you guys yeah I think that's
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stupid question after I asked it but then it was too late to back down all
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ever encountered in my life that's why they can't shoot or aim very well yeah
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that exactly it is no mystery to me anymore why Stormtroopers can't hit
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anything because I I got fully armored up today I can barely move I can't see I
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mean it's like I mean yeah Mark Hill said it best I think I can't see
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like a dog turd someone mentioned that actually should be a pile of dog peo
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it's better than be better than bber I don't know if I'd want to wear it but
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