hilarious it's completely ridiculous obviously the concept was never going to
work it's a miracle they beat four gyms they haven't beat any more gyms since
then have they I'm how many I think they're past four gyms whatever there
last time I checked they were uh out of the Safari Zone it's ridiculous I mean
they're moving on to bla so I can't remember the exact count The Fad will
end and then that will be that yeah probably but I fully expect them to do
at least one more game like I I expect them to try like Final Fantasy or
something good luck they're going to fail I mean but I could see them trying
it I'd be surprised if a thousand people on Twitch could beat like could could
finish like the Leo kefa like basically cut scene fight never mind beating any
of the actual bosses I mean there's only one correct this is the thousand monkeys
with typewriters thing all over again right right have you seen the Democracy
mode though I have not seen democrac
Anarchy and democracy votes so to to get into democracy vote there has to be more
than 80% of people I think it is voting for democracy and then it'll switch into
democracy mode and then when you're in democracy mode I think you need 50% of the votes or more to go into Anarchy
mode when you're in democracy mode you have 20 seconds to propose your next set
of steps so if you were like up four left three that would mean he would go
up four squares then left three and you have 20 seconds to vote and then he does
whatever the votes okay but with an actual okay especially with the one
minute delay that twitch has now yeah yeah boss fights and Final Fantasy good
luck that's Absolut the most hilarious thing about it right now is that there's
a huge delay no I know so that after after they fight someone they just kind
of sit there and go like CU they're hitting like all the
inputs from a minute ago so every time after they do something major they just
kind of like run around and open the start menu for a while and then after
like a minute they actually start going
somewhere like okay good try all right
well welcome to the show on Twitch that does not involve playing Pokemon
although at some point we should probably just do like a like a Pokemon
Afterparty CU I love Pok I have a Pokemon Stadium for N64 that would do it
that would definitely work yeah I also have the adapter for N64 controllers you
can plug uh Pokemon like old school Pokemon games into your N64 so if we
wanted to do that style we could do that as well why does this not surprise me at
all like if someone had asked me if someone walked up on me on the street
and said do you think Luke has like you
know some random freaking adapter the last plug some random freaking cartridge
into some other random fraking thing I'd be like yeah he might not know where it is
but he probably has one it somewhere I also have one for SN just in
case that just in just in case we want to switch consoles yeah just in case
that that that's a thing that's a problem all right guys we've got a great
show for you today is valve watching you
browse that was the rumor going around on the internet and CEO Gabe Newell has
stepped down from on high to deliver his word onto the masses we'll tell you more
about that later Facebook has acquired WhatsApp for 19 billion that's with a B
billions of dollars um which is equivalent to about what was it $43 per
user something along those lines 43 $48 per user that's ridiculous about $43 per
user in spite of the fact that not a single one of those users users has
given WhatsApp probably more than about $2
ever so um next up uh Oculus Rift you might
be able to watch movies on it now which is kind of insane there's one coming on
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first topic for today here we go I'm going to monitor to
make sure that people like the volume so just keep going forward are we starting
with that segment we are just going to start this is an oh wait oh I got the no
okay we're GNA have to do it we're gonna have to do it in a couple minutes do it later okay y yep all right so let's kick
off with OMG is valve spying on us all
and we would know that for sure if I had remembered to grab my DisplayPort to
HDMI adapter I'll be back in a moment in the meantime do you want to get started
on that sure so essentially no
um yeah I I don't a lot of people freaked out because they're like oh my
God Val's reading my stuff but not as many people freaked out as you might
expect because it was valve I guarantee you if this was EA there would have been
a nuclear explosion of Gamers um but it
wasn't quite as bad as I think it could have been but the man himself levitated
from the heavens came down and gave us the answer that we were looking for
which was that it was not actually malicious did look for things locally
but then grabbed only those things hashed them sent them back to valve
servers um verified that you were being
a cheater and then banned you because apparently the guys creating the hacks
are getting frustrated that people are using their hacks without purchasing
them imagine that imagine there being some overlap between cheaters and
hackers so so cheaters have literally created their own form of DRM that has
server callbacks so that they can make
sure that you bought it which is insane
um so valve kind of piggybacked on top of that tried to detect that and then
ban users based on that they weren't Banning you based on if you went to the
website they were not Banning you based on that they were Banning you based on
if there was call backs because the hack was currently running and they were
trying to check for DRM so basically that usual DRM nonsense that makes
people upset that is to say say uh constant phoning home from your software
is what ultimately led to valve not
doing that but just exploiting that
someone else was taking advantage of your computer to send call backs to take
advantage of the fact that some people weren't paying for their software so
basically um no honor among Thieves
companies that design cheats and then the people who use
them yeah both they they're they're they're screwing each other over so it
was only active for about 13 days at which point it was able to be
circumvented because this happens all the time um and they fully expected that
so it was pulled um uh Gabe is even
claiming that it's possible that the original thread created throwing them
under the bus was even just a social engineering attack from the people that
made the hack or at least inspired by those people in some sort of way which
does make a ton of sense um sorry uh he's quoted saying uh do we
send your browser history to valve no do we care what porn sites you visit oh
dear God no my brain just melted those were his exact terms it's pretty good um
is valve using its Market success to go evil and then he says I don't think so
but you have to make the call if we are trustworthy we try to earn we try hard
we try really hard to earn and keep your trust which I guess that's the only way
he can really say it it kind of makes sense it does make sense I mean if it
was anyone but valve yeah everyone would have fre freaked out do I
particularly I mean do do I like them
doing stuff that I don't know about I mean it's one of those things where and
he he even addressed this in his statement which is about this long it's on Reddit and he's kind of going like we
don't talk about what we do with valvan
cheat no one does because we can't because if we do then they'll be it'll
take them less than 13 days to figure out what we're doing and work around it
again and that that's a big problem to me because what about when they decide
to be less valve at some point what about when but everyone does this
literally everyone that has a security implementation has to they'll they'll
probably contribute to some open open encryption form or whatever but what
they're using and how they're using it is not going to be on the table at all
points well remember back in the early days of the lonus tech tips Forum when I
always used to talk about the new security measures that we had implemented super frustrating and then
the site would go down like that was like come on man so I understand why
they're not doing this it just it does make me a little bit uncomfortable
because does is it anywhere in the steam Ula that they can or can't do whatever
it is they're doing with doubt it or if
it is in there is it in such terms that we would never have understood it anyway
yeah probably or sorry I meant do it as in like uh like there's probably nothing
protecting us against that in there and there's probably nothing saying that
they won't ever do it in there like it's probably just not in there at all um
that being said yeah I don't know again
I think a lot of people would be a lot more harsh on it if it was EA but then
again if it was EA it probably would be harsh so I don't know considering the
like system information call backs that origin already does and they're completely open about
right I don't know
so yeah there's that um I think we covered everything with
that no okay so less than one ten0 of 1%
of the clients triggered by the second check were actually banned and that was
570 people no sorry less than one1 1% of
clients triggered the second check yeah so a lot of them got triggered by the
first one but way less got triggered by the second one and of those that was
that that's 570 people that's a crazy amount of people and I mean it's one of
those things where are we happy that valve is keeping our street safe so to
speak and but then is it really going to do anything I mean you know what Let's do
let's do uh let's do a little poll here hold on I've never actually used straw
pole before but I'm I'm going to hope me not me sorry straw pole. me I want to
hear from you guys do you cheat in
multiplayer it's Anonymous I guess games
yeah it's completely Anonymous um
yes sort of all the time and I'd love for you guys to weigh in on this with
more than just the than just the poll answer if you want to hit us on Twitter
that's at Linus Tech um so yes
sometimes yes rarely and
no all right uh permissive that thing right yes yes yeah
that's fine y okay I'm gonna go ahead and create that poll just click on it yeah there we go
all right so we're going to post that in the twitch chat here for you guys I'll
try to grab it and repost boom all right so in the meantime
let's move on to our next topic which is Bitcoin ATMs potentially coming to the
states maybe perhaps not 100% sure there
is a Bitcoin ATM actually in our home Hometown here in Vancouver and that same
company is looking to expand to different locations however one of the
big things that just has to go away with
respect to how Bitcoin works is the anonymity in order
for anywhere to allow you to put a
Bitcoin ATM so the one in Vancouver has a biometric scanner and I mean we can
talk all day about how easy that is to
get around that's going to be and how like bull crap that actually is it's
better than nothing that's true I mean sometimes I this is I mean this is kind
of a whole other discussion topic but sometimes it's not about making a
completely impervious security measure just having something there sometimes
it's about the barrier to entry yeah I mean is a a is a passport impossible to
forge no but are you going to do it am I
going to and that's part of that's actually a part of a big security discussion that I was in on not that
long ago which was the idea of yes okay
maybe the facial recognition stuff is pretty easy to break through and maybe
like fingerprint Biometrics are pretty easy to bre break through and maybe
voice scanning is pretty easy to break through but if I set up a door and have
every single one of those good luck yep
like it's going to be real difficult to get all of that before you actually try
to get through the door and it's not the kind of thing where I think you'll ever be able to replace an armed guard yeah
if something's actually that value and but if it is then pay the guy 20 bucks
an hour and give him a gun come
on yeah yeah I don't know so okay I
think there was there was kind of more to talk about sorry I got disced so the
guys putting the ATM in will probably be robocoin which are the same guys that
put the one in Vancouver like he was just talking about you would be able to
withdraw money in USD or you'd be able to deposit USD in order to contribute
rute towards your Bitcoin account um they want to put machines in Seattle and
Austin by the end of February although they have previously said that they wanted to put machines in New York and
Los Angeles and that hasn't happened yet due to the problems that lanis was just
talking about with the the requirement of being able to identify the person at
the machine it's a sketchy thing for lawmakers they everyone's kind of on the
fence about allowing Bitcoin into their cities
essentially and I mean it's one of those things where I think the you know we've
talked about this offline and I think it's an interesting topic to me the
biggest reason that I can come up with that I think Bitcoin will fail is the
negative press you can make the argument all day that no press is bad press but
bad press is bad press when your competitors are getting good press and
get lots of good press and as much as Dogecoin started as a total joke and it
was ridiculous just for a lark they get
so much good press and good vibe around
them whereas with Bitcoin every other
day it feels like there's a there's some kind of news story because they're so
high-profile it's like being a star athlete in a city that follows you
really closely your Highs are the expectation and your lows get blown out
of proportion because you're the big kid so with Bitcoin every time there's a
wild fluctuation in value it explodes every time mount gaau isn't paying
people it explodes every time you know
um a a drug ring or every time there's a
massive child pornography Bust or something like that and it turns out
that Bitcoins Were Somehow involved in the transaction any way in any way if
it's super minor even if because remember it's a lot of the time the
folks writing a newscast they're basically Layman right
so even if it was litecoins or dogecoins
or you know lonus coins or whatever else
they're going to say inter coin so they're going to say Bitcoin Bitcoin the same way they say cleanex or Xerox
they'll say Bitcoin so it the name will
be somewhere in that negativity and for that reason I think that bitcoin's a
Pioneer I think that it sets a new precedent I think that cryptocurrency
has a very bright and very long future I just don't think bitcoin's going to win
in the longer term and then that whole uh like observation what you feel about
the different coins and the aura around them thing Bitcoin has drug sex and
weaponry then Litecoin has a whole bunch of people on the internet using AMD
graphics cards to generate what is essentially going to turn into
Bitcoins and then Dogecoin is like lol
charity because I don't know what else to do with
this so it's like that's how um not
small portion of the internet sees the whole situation so then what do you
expect to actually come out of it interesting so I mean with that said if
Bitcoin is the one that ends up with an infrastructure like ATMs then great but
if Bitcoin again paves the way by having like four ATMs and then someone better
organized comes along and goes yep we're going to take that concept and we're
going to go massively all over the
country with something that's not Anonymous and doesn't have all these negative connotations around it then
that could be very successful and that makes sense because bitcoin's going to
go in and get lawmakers to approve these machines and then when another person
goes in and tries to put in a machine it's probably going to be super easy CU they will have done it already it's
tough to be the first one yeah it really is I mean can you imagine if we tried to
be the first tech YouTuber where would I have even gotten
the idea like no honestly I mean it's
it's really tough to be the first one yeah I'm okay with sloppy
seconds all right so our next story is Facebook a Qui
WhatsApp for 19
billion 19 billion so this pretty much
precludes any further talks with Snapchat because WhatsApp has an
enormous what is it 470 million users
something like that and then they're adding 1 million users per day right now
so okay there's a few different ways to look at this number one is from the
purely um dollars and cents perspective where
you kind of go okay so what'sapp this is a company that did I think it was 30
some odd million Revenue last
year Revenue not profit this is a company
with like 50 employees you know those shirt cannons
that you see at like events yeah it's like Silicon Val like like apple and
Facebook and these Google just have shirt cannons of money and there's like
boom boom just like see what we can hit
who cares no research just boom let's
just shoot money at everything and see what happens so that is one way of
looking at it is is they they are spending many many dollars on the penny
for what the company is actually worth from a strictly Revenue
perspective and there's some validity
there but then the other way of looking at it is this $19 billion AC position is
for a social network and I have a hard
time classifying WhatsApp as a social network but more on more on that in a
moment for $43 per
user and when you consider what other
social networks there are with that many users and what it would cost to buy you
know I don't know Facebook is a great example or Microsoft what what that
would actually cost then it looks potentially like a value and then some
of the other justification is is the the growth of WhatsApp right now where it's
a million new users per day and you kind of go okay well then in you know two
years they could have two billion users
and a third of the entire world I mean in India 400 million users are on
WhatsApp or something like that maybe I'm maybe I'm getting the overall
numbers wrong right now how many users do they have right now India boasts 400
million active members yeah 400 million active members so
I mean that that's that's absolutely huge it's an emerging market that you
want to be able to reach and you could kind of look at it and go okay well
monetizing such a large user base should be a
no-brainer so then that leads to two
conversations before your whole thing about why they why you think they want
it so conversation number one is I don't
really see WhatsApp as a social network to me WhatsApp is a messaging utility
that can come and go as quickly as icq
MSN or anything else I don't think that
the experience of using Whatsapp is
nearly as rich as something like um even
Twitter because Twitter is all about
connecting with people that you don't already have a connection to Whatsapp is
about yo dog I just switched over to this thing because it's free and like I
don't want to pay for text messages a paradigm that's probably going to go
away in the next few years as Telos have all moved away from I mean when WhatsApp
gained popularity we were still looking at cell phone plans that were like
here's your 250 text messages a month yeah yeah that's where WhatsApp came
from it was a free way to send text messages not you know some kind of
amazing Paradigm shifting uh communication platform that connects you
with people I mean Twitter's amazing through Twitter t i i do most of my
Outreach to people that I don't know whether it's Nixie pixel who we've
invited to be a guest on the W show in a couple of weeks so we've had a lot of
requests for that how would I reach these people if it wasn't for Twitter
because Twitter is a way for people who normally wouldn't talk to you to ignore
you if they want or if they see something really interesting as they
flip through their feed be like oh yeah sure and engage with you WhatsApp isn't
that so who cares I'm going to cut in one quick
second um we've got two mixing articles
one says 16 billion one says 19 billion but it's a lot even at 16 billion it's
kind of redonkulous I thought it was 19 I thought it was 19 I read another one
after the ones that you have in the dock that said 19 so The Verge says 16 The
Verge says 16 yeah interesting okay so there's there's a few but we always run
into that y so the Internet it's a large
portion of money no matter what it comes down to so my thing or do you have more
to go over no no wait okay there was is it a social network and then um I forget
what the other thing was that's the biggest question to me yeah oh no sorry
and can they monetize it right uh there's a there's a article that came
out not that long ago saying that they're not going to be monetizing WhatsApp but then now that it's owned by
Facebook yeah but no even Facebook I
think has said that there's there's like they're not changing the structure in
fact the $1 subscription fee may go away yeah so but that's all fine and good
because remember guys it is a strategy to build as many users as you can at any
cost and then exploit them as hardcore as you can until they all migrate to
something else so the the real question here then is can they get their 19
billion back before everyone migrates to something else and maybe that's it maybe
if I look at it and I go you know with my sustainable business model had on cuz
everything I do here at Linus Media Group isn't on the scale of what someone
like Mark Zuckerberg is doing where he's working with billions of dollars the way
that I would work with hundreds of dollars you know when I look at
something and I go okay we're going to do like a new thing we're going to do t-shirts or we're going to start a new
show it's where will that show be in
three years when we're still developing it and we want it to be sustainable to
the point where we can attract sponsors we can attract viewers and we can make
both of those groups happy for a very long period of time that's what I'm
trying to do whereas if Facebook is just
kind of looking at this going okay well we're not worried about turning WhatsApp
into a sustainable business that can bring in a billion dollars a year of
revenue for 20 years because 20 years in the internet game is is an incredibly
long period I would make a bet WhatsApp won't exist in 20 years so if they're
looking at it going okay let's make a quick buck in two years we could have
two billion users and then we could make each of them worth you know 30 40 bucks
each easily then we'll make double on our investment or if we could turn each
of them into $100 by selling out so hardcore when the time comes then we
could make you know 5x back on our
investment or whatever that number ends up being so if that's the way of looking
at it then hey there you go maybe it's a
great idea so go on your next thing one thing I've been worried about is because
something that we've started doing on the show now because we have to because
it makes sense is inspect how everything that happens on the internet could be
terrible so um not that long ago Facebook released an update um and we
actually missed this on the W show but Facebook released an update M making it
so that Facebook could read your text messages and like your your call
information so they could know who you're calling I think that part but I
know they can read your text messages so now if they buy WhatsApp they'll be able
to read all of your text messages and all of your kind of text messages
through WhatsApp so they're just expanding the amount of text messages
they can read so they can have all of your Facebook interaction which is a
huge amount of interaction all of your text message interaction and all of your
kind of text message interaction which is WhatsApp excluding BBM which is I'm
sure microscopic compared to what'sapp and then of course there's the whole
argument that they want to they want to get into the underground of messaging
yeah but then figure out how to monetize it later or something I mean all the
people that are interested in things like Snapchat or even I guess what's up
to a much lesser extent um those kind of those underground folks are going to
have no interest in continuing to use that platform once Facebook owns it I
would imagine so we'll see how this shakes down I mean like I said if the
plan is just here's a bunch of users let's milk them for all their worth for
a short period of time after we build it up into a big thing then there you go
maybe it works then there you go all right let's go to our straw pool so
let's go ahead and so 80% of you do not
cheat and 20% of you cheat rarely
sometimes or all the the time 2% of you
say you cheat all the time so if valve
only even got to stage two with what was
it 0.1% Point uh what0 one of a percent
I think it was yeah keep going yeah with 0. one of a percent then that means that
whatever they're doing probably didn't dig that deep because they didn't catch
19.9% of the people that right on our stream are saying that yes they cheat um
and yeah I don't so a wasn't that effective and B so they probably weren't
digging that deep and the thing is uh and he even said it in the article was
it it has to be multipronged all the time yeah so this is one of their
attacks they don't have a single spear they have many so this is one of the
things they can potentially do they also have the thing where if someone gets
reported if you're playing the game and someone gets reported I don't remember
exactly what it's called but my roommate used to do it all the time who was
actually really cool is you would be able to go in and watch their game along
with a whole bunch of other people um and it wouldn't show their
username or anything like that but you could watch their game and then determine yes they're using a hack yes
they're using wall hack uh plausible deniability like all these other
different options and then if you voted along the same with basically everyone
else that voted if you agreed with the ending verdict yeah then you got to keep
going and keep reviewing footage so it tried to it kept everyone honest because
if they wanted to keep doing this right had to be accurate all the time um so
that's another way that they can ban people and that apparently actually works really well and has been a huge
front for them I know League of Legends does a similar thing um so like they
have many options so just because this one didn't get a huge wide spectrum
doesn't mean that vac isn't trying yeah because games like
Counter-Strike are huge so cheat creators for those type of games yeah
yeah and considering how long it's been around too like man it's got to be crazy
oh sorry for the off topic can can you tell me why you didn't like the hobbit 2
I didn't like it either no I'm not going to rant about hobbit 2 I thought about
doing a movie review of it but it's one of those topics that seems very
polarizing um there's a group of people
that think it's the best movie ever and then there's a group of people that
don't think it's the best movie ever and I don't really want to have that debate
because it's like a it's almost like a religious debate at that point how do
you argue objectively for the merits of a movie you can't
so I like to use the term exploit in
games uh as long as it doesn't affect anyone else so single
player CU if you're if you're exploiting or cheating you're doing something that
someone else can't so it's affecting other people in multiplay buying
WhatsApp let's Facebook take out the competition growing bigger Google help
focus on furthering their yeah probably okay Amed says I disagree
WhatsApp sends audio video group chats Etc it's not going anywhere just not as
popular in North America oh it's plenty popular here okay not as popular as in
other places but it is popular I just don't think that that
functionality qualifies it as a social network because I don't think it's any
more of a social network than a telephone that's all my telephone can
send audio video group chats Etc but
that doesn't mean that the phone line is a social network to me that's what
WhatsApp is it's a phone line and a text line um I don't think it's exceptional I
think that if you Ahmed you decided that you were going to
switch to something else and a couple of your buddies got together and they were
going to switch with you and it was free you could all switch like that if the
functionality was somehow in some way minutely better than WhatsApp I think it
could be displaced very easily I did use the group chat thing a
lot when I used to go to school because everyone in all of my classes were
because in the school I was in you moved as one unit from class to class and I
use it all the time for badmon as well like you know you know it's 10 billion
other things I can do that yeah and it's just a matter of them doing something
stupid and upsetting people and then that being that uh there you go 16
billion Cash 3 billion Facebook shares um according to wow probably equates to
19 I guess what's up main appeals to keep in touch with overseas friends
absolutely but then again hundred billion things that could MSN had so
much potential I'm not going to go on this rant again but MSN could MSN
Messenger could have easily been I honestly I think it would the coolest
thing ever if they just like release a News Bulletin and they're like yep it's coming back yep it's just i' be like yes
we're getting rid of Skype yeah we're taking on what's because Amazon had all
this functionality ages ago all they needed was a mobile version yeah
anyway redirects to YouTube video which redirects to Twitch stream well yeah but
if we don't do that then we can't reach everyone Carl says with the exception of
known exploits from ingame glitches I don't cheat why cheat there's no pride
in cheating absolutely what'sapp isn't anything like Twitter so can't be
compared yeah I know WhatsApp made me
able to use smilees
what that doesn't make it that's you can
use smilees in I know it's different from Twitter we never said it was the
same as Twitter what I said is Twitter is a social network and I was saying
WhatsApp is not so actually that's what I was saying is that they're nothing
alike I think it comes down to how you define social networks too because it
technically it's a social network if you create a group chat because it is a
network of people socially interacting fine then is
three-way calling a social network see then I don't know I don't
know all right haven't tried enough of them to say for sure okay lots of people
not talking yet don't get satisfaction from cheating okay what is the point of
cheating in games even in single player games that would just kill the challenge
c i i find certain cheats in single player games to be okay um yeah I've
done it just cuz I'm like bored I'm like yeah it's usually when you're messing
around and I usually find those cheats to be like sandbox games like cheat in
games like just cause and GTA are hilarious right but like I yeah Peter
figures Karma J takes a giant tur on You for Cheating I certainly hope so I don't
cheat because getting a ban on Steam would be a disaster with all the games
that I have y that's that's that's something actually as you build up your
steam Library larger and larger and larger getting banned will have much
more of an impact but if you're someone who cheats all the time like I think
that'll again some that aren't permanent now as well deterrence for the casuals
are really the big victory because there's always going to be the hardcore guys that have 100 steam accounts each
with one game you can if if for the csgo players out there I'm sure you've
experienced this as well if you play CS:GO a fair amount uh I do the second
there's a steam sale and csgo goes down to like two bucks 50 or like 375 they're
all back it's oh my God it's terrible for like a little while but then you can
tell they just all get crushed and then it's usually somewhat okay again but
like the the the day or like two or three days after a sale starts it's just
it's ugly it's just terrible and like you can if you suspect someone you go
and like look at their steam profile and was like created one day ago owns one
game and you're like oh my God
hello like that happens so much it's
frustrating all right so let's move on to our next topic this is something that
I actually disagree with the general con
this might turn into a rant uh and Amazon plans to increase membership fees
this is posted on the Forum by yeah sorry man lot sure um Amazon
says it may increase its Prime membership fee by as much as $40 so it's
80 bucks a year right now which is about what I don't know $6 a month or
something like that if you extrapolate it out uh or break it down or whatever
it is you're going to do
um a lot of people super upset about
this so for those of you who don't live in a country where Prime is an option
like the UK or the US Amazon Prime entitles you to a few things number one
and this is the big one is free shipping so you get two-day shipping on
qualifying items and then slower shipping on other items and it is
unlimited you could ship a pen a day
every day for a year to your house and they would have to do it and that would
be included with the fee so for I mean of course with a game with something
like this it's a numbers game for every person who ships something every day
you're going to have hopefully someone who ships something once every six
months and just bought the Prime Membership on an impulse and you're
mostly just taking money from them to subsidize and because it's easy yeah
because it's easy because you don't have to think about it anymore and then you subsidize with that um but guys shipping
is expensive oh okay sorry I hadn't finished going through the benefits so
benefit number two is you get access to the Kindle uh lending library which
allows you to borrow one qualifying book a month out of the sort of the pool of
lending books and basically amounts to a free book per month there's no time
limit on how long you can keep that one but I guess you probably have to give it back before you can borrow the next one
I've never actually used it I don't have a Prime membership and then benefit
number three is access to an unlimited amount of Amazon's on demand video
streaming service so for 80 bucks a year if you
consider and okay it's not up to the caliber of Netflix but when you consider
that you're paying $6 a month for Netflix and that's just video streaming
or if you consider that a subscription to audible.com uh one of our sponsors
actually is going to cost I actually can't even
remember that's embarrassing so what is what did I get my free Audi book uh yeah
whatever I can't remember anyway the point is either way if you sign up with our code you get free audiobook yeah so
yeah yeah exactly head over to audible.com anyway so the point is okay
okay so if you're getting a free book a month and you're getting free shipping
on everything even if you shipped yourself so let's say they increase at $40 to 120 bucks even if you shipped one
thing a month you're still paying about what US Canadians pay to ship anything
for every thing that it is and if you can't find one thing a month that you
could buy on Amazon especially with two-day delivery instead of somewhere
else then yeah it doesn't make sense for
you but I just find it hard to believe that this is such an enormous deal
breaker for everyone this is something people don't understand shipping is
really expensive someone someone in the chat says there's UK fashion site that
has free worldwide delivery with no minimum spend and it only costs about
$10 10 EUR a year to get next day shipping although there it's clothing so
good for you Royal post is cheap and
it's clothing so there's probably massive markup and margin anyways so
shipping is expensive and if you think that you're getting shipping for free
think again you're probably paying you are paying for it you are always paying
for shipping somewhere so let's take um
let's take Asian countries for example where worldwide shipping costs like a
buck you know you can buy stuff on Deal extreme for like a $150 with free
shipping anywhere in the world how does that work subsidies they are getting
subsidized I mean we often joke that it
costs less to ship something from Britain to our house than to sh
something down the street inite of the fact that if someone ship something from
Great Britain to our house it will still have to cross the entirety of Canada
never mind just down our own Street in order to get to us which means Canada
Post is actually carrying it across the country but if I were to send something
to Halifax I would probably be spending 15 20 bucks minimum so how does it work
subsidies in countries where shipping is
cheap you are paying for that subsidy so
that someone can pay some other country's shipping company in order to
move it for them once it gets there so you're paying for it somewhere for
companies like Amazon where they're shipping within the US where shipping is
much cheaper than Canada as low as about 250 to 350 per package this is based on
some numbers that I shouldn't have access to but that's what some a very
large company like Amazon or Newegg is probably paying with someone like a
courier that three letters in their name and sometimes they drop things okay so
it can cost as little as 2 to 350 maybe about bucks all right maybe 450 for
something let's say the size of like a mouse like like a basic rate that means
that you paid for it somewhere somewhere whether it's a
membership or whether it's in the margin of the product and anyone who thinks
that the margin in electronics is good enough to cover that I I don't know what to tell you
it's not it's not at all so that's pretty much all there is to it I fully
support Amazon increasing the rate in order to make the business make sense
they can't just bleed money on the prime program it has to make sense for them
and if shipping costs go up because let's face it gas isn't getting cheaper
then that's what's going to happen deal with it it's still a fantastic deal and
all you people complaining about it can just because up here in Canada it sorry
yeah or just don't buy it so don't buy it or don't complain because here in
Canada do you have any idea what we would give to pay $120 a month for free
shipping from anywhere it's $120 a year I was like I
wouldn't do that for $120 a year you could have free
shipping from Amazon.com boom done well
yeah definitely do I don't know sucks I
don't bu anything terrible yeah the pricing sucks yeah but yeah i' I'd be
completely down um I I okay from another
perspective I would be not stoked that my price was doubling it's not doubling
$40 to 79 up to 120 or up to1 1999 no no
no by up to $40 from 79 yeah sorry it's
awkward wording in the dou okay so not quite doubling but still by 50% yeah
like I still wouldn't be stoked but I'd
probably still do it yeah and I think it's one of those things where there's a
whole lot of complaining that goes on but then people I think a lot people are
actually yeah and like they haven't changed their price for what N9 years
yeah like dude
prices for them were not the same N9 years ago I don't know what to say
that's what you that's that's what you get with physical stuff like I don't know if Netflix is necessarily going to
become more expensive in a short period of time as
long as they're still growing as long as their user base is still increasing
dramatically bandwidth costs are going down unless they have to start paying
isps unless they have to start paying ISP but they're going to keep fighting
that they're going to keep fighting that and they're they're changing laws
already or trying to so I guess we'll see not a huge deal are you going to do
your thing uh I'm going to do that after the next topic let's do one more topic
um do we want to do the thing yeah the problem is that I forgot to uh I forgot
to grab the the graphic for it so I'm just going to have to fire up leg Gmail
here all right and then go ahead and enter the password here and then enter
the verification code here oh
fortunately I have my Pebble back 189 582 uh you know I saw so much potential
in the qualcom talk yeah really saw a lot of potential if you guys haven't
seen my review of The Talk already even if you're not that interested in smart
watches well one deal with it because they're going to be a huge huge thing in
the next five years and number two it's an interesting video to watch cuz like
not blowing my own horn here or anything but I think it's one of the better
reviews I ever did um I spent a lot of time with the product I spent a lot of
time trying to figure out um everything
that was good and everything that could be improved about it to the point where
I think it should give you a pretty good idea of where we're at with SmartWatches
right now so at least it'll give you some context for what's coming in the
future all right so let's go ahead wow that's brilliant download I know isn't
it fantastic every once in a while he just makes gold I know all right so this
is a new segment on the show if you like this segment let us know if you think
this segment is stupid then uh let us know that too so we are going to try to
find one thing per week I know this is a tech show and it's mostly focused on
technology but we're going to find something that is not technology that is
more important than whatever is going on in the life of Canadian pop sensation
Justin Bieber so this week is and I have
been corrected it is not the Ukraine it
is Ukraine this week there is a whole
lot going down in Ukraine right now and
and Venezuela and in Venezuela um Ukraine is the one that's making a lot
of a lot more headlines at the moment uh just because there's I mean there's
reactions going on like uh for example there are Ukrainian athletes that are
just leaving leaving the games just to go home and show their solidarity so uh
skier and her coach who was also her dad if I recall correctly um are just kind
of heading back to show their support before their event was over yeah before
the event was over they're just like you know what screw this they need us back
home we're going to head back there the the death tolls being reported by the
media I think are in the 35 range but
protesters are saying that they are higher than that uh Health Ministry has
said 77 people were killed and 577 were
injured but activists are saying it's much higher you know what's really scary about that number is that when I looked
at it yesterday morning it was 35 if I
recall correctly that was what was being reported so it's and then the day before
that I believe it was 13 or 11 or
something like that so it's it's going up very quickly the violence is
escalating it's one of those things where on this show we don't typically
take a stance one way or the other but there are certain things I think we can
all agree on uh one of them is that the value of human life is something that we
should all respect and people shouldn't be dying over a conflict the police
shouldn't be dying the pro testers shouldn't be dying and none of those
things are right and so it's just something that is more important than
Justin Bieber in the world right now we're not going to sort of cover this in
too much depth yeah we're not we're not
like in the field reporters we we don't
we do Tech stuff so we just want to bring it up so that you guys can go
check it out probably in your own time and develop your own opinions about it
be aware of it is all we're really saying and don't worry too much about
the be although I heard that the US has to take him back now yeah cuz we won
hockey yeah
if you guys didn't hear about this there was a billboard that said um loser keeps
Bieber or something like that and then it was updated later it was a video
billboard so what did they say bad terrible bet something like that that
was a that was a Bad Bet or something like that and then there was a American
Eagle with a golden chain around it saying bber and I was
like yikes it was pretty funny it was
pretty good and that was posted somewhere in the states I don't remember where all right so guys I just wanted to
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we have you know it's hard to have a better than Bieber segment when
everything in your show is more important than Justin Bieber maybe we should just rename the show The W show
better than Bieber better than
Bieber okay okay uh actually guys should
we do a
t-shirt the W show better than be like
really small so when people like cuz I mean the Okay the reason we did a couple
t-shirt designs so they're on District Lines um and the reason that we ended up
with kind of a a wano logo so this logo right here in the middle of a shirt but
without the text the wow was cuz we figured people probably wouldn't want um
you could have like you know the L detective logo that's on the back you could have like hashtag better than
Bieber hash better than Bieber so we didn't want people asking our t-shirt
wearers what the heck's a w show because if we put better than Bieber on it then
people won't have to ask what's the W show they'll just be like oh yeah whatever it is that symbol thing yeah
whatever that is probably okay yeah sure gotcha gotcha
so there you go guys uh we have our bro fist design which is that yeah and then
there's also uh W stealth so oh there we go there you go
so w stealth looks like that so w stealth so just picture it with like a
little like better than Bieber right here we should totally do that all right
moving on to our next
topic we also have a I'm super stoked
for the Adventure Time One where is this thread why does this
happen I looked at this like right before the uh is GNA happen to
me yes we got to figure out a way for
the threads that we uh I don't know if that's a Google doc thing or what no no
the issue is that the thread's been moved or merged I run into this once in
a while all right so this was posted by neuron knite on the Forum and all that's
being said is that Elon Musk the founder
of Tesla among other things has talked to Apple but that an
acquisition of Tesla is
unlikely in fact what's the word on the street is what's much more likely is a
collaboration between the companies which could manifest as a number of
different things and the one that I would like to see and this is something
that I called back when the iPhone 3G
was a big deal because this was an argument like an ongoing argument
between me and cameraman man the old ncx cameraman who did all my editing back
then he was like what's Apple's next big
Direction past smartphones and to me
tablets are more of like an evolutionary step from a smart it's a big smartphone
and I said I car and then I home because
to me those were two things that could
really truly benefit from the things that apple is so good at and for all the
people that want to hate on Apple all they want good for you fine
do it but you cannot argue with how good
they are at taking existing Concepts and Technologies I mean Logan's video has
Apple ever really invented every anything is actually a pretty good watch
you should go check it out but what Apple's good at is taking things that
are already invented and making them all
work together in a way that is different
and easier what could use a shakeup more
than the car industry
BMW's new connected car is pretty freaking cool y that's cool but do you
think that apple with their expertise could probably do it better yeah and
then hopefully Google will step in as they are and everybody's going to step
in and blah blah blah blah blah I don't think it's going to look like that I would love to see this I mean maybe not
quite like this and that's apple design would be a lot better than that yeah it
would this is just like a like a like a silly fan mockup so don't worry too much
about that but but something like a like a car that was just truly intelligent
and upgradeable and app friendly I mean
that's the problem with the car guys is they all want the 2013 model to not be
upgradeable because they they want to build in that incremental thing they can
do with the 2014 model and Apple's as guilty of this as anyone but to a much
lesser degree than the car guys I think in terms of of being closed off and not
allowing additional functionality over time and not wanting to give people the
ability to mod and use the things the way that they want to I mean that was
the whole thing with the iPhone was I
mean Apple talked about this a lot way back in the day is we didn't even
imagine that people were going to create this app for it that's true again though
um not to bring it back to the BMW car but the BMW car doesn't really have apps
really installed on it already you plug your phone in and then it grabs apis
from those apps right so it's not like it's going to go out a date and that was
actually one of the big things is as your phone updates that's all you need
to update and then you'll still have more functionality yeah but then a
problem with that too is that it's not built into the car and it is just apis
yes so you're not getting that full fluid functionality that you could expect from an Apple car or even say a
Google car or something like that whereas Apple it'll be seamless you'll
go from using Siri in your car to using Siri on your phone to using Siri on your
if they ever get around to making a t TV on your TV and then the one that and
this was this was the crazy the crazy prediction I made cuz he was like I car
no but maybe and then when I said I home
he was like no that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard I home to me what
it will be is it will be a single piece
it will be an actual unit that just gets dropped onto a piece of property and is
fully integrated with Google's new thing we'll
talk about later that could even work incredibly well and he was like no
because people won't give up the personalization and the customizability
of their phone to which I or of their home to which I replied they gave it up
with their phones before the iPhone it was stuff like the Motorola Razor in a
variety of different colors Paris Hilton pink or whatever the what that doesn't
because the layout of every home on the street would probably be pretty much the
same you look at what Apple does bring one model Market because of well the the
layout doesn't you Oh you mean like the entire building is a unit the entire
building I think this is this is this is my crazy future prediction Apple will
have the iHome which you order through your contractor or whatever it is and it
arrives on a flat bed and they put it down on your property and that's it and
it's going to have all kinds of really crazy cool technology so you know Nest
eat your heart out because this is going to have controlled thermostat controlled
you know washer dryer and it's going to be crazy expensive if you ever have to
upgrade anything about it you're going to be locked into that particular model
in the apple way but it'll all work together in a way that's very cool more
being like IE apartment I I don't see them doing entire buildings especially
apartment because like a house that's
kind of insane um another thing that you could do though is have it be a module
attachment like like you know how air conditioners sometimes if you have huge
ones they sit outside your house yep could be like your iome module and then
you could use something like the Google thing we're gonna talk about later I
don't want to get too into right now to map your home out so that it can then
know what's up in your phone in your home and then have the device that s
sits external or even internal of your house um control everything that's
inside whether or not it is technically Apple everywhere I could see that
happening too it's interesting yeah people are hating on my prediction but I stand by it we'll see I don't I don't
I'm not going to go with your prediction that's fine I know and I know that's
fine yeah if we if we are if we're still sitting on this couch in 20 years we'll
see I think we'll hopefully be sitting somewhere else yeah hopefully a
different hopefully a much better kind of crap my back is like so s
terrible like oh this couch probably
smells really bad in spite of the fact it do that we haven't owned it that
long it's so horrible okay all right so oh yeah one other possible collaboration
would even just be something like building a a ginormous awesome fact for
Batteries because that's one thing that Apple has really pushed forward is
Battery Technology and that's something that Tesla desperately needs to be
pushed forward so them getting together and working on that together could be
extremely exciting for the future because really cool as you'll know if
you watched my Brenton hydrogen reactor video not that long ago fuel cell just
ain't quite there yet not so much uh should we do bit torr
live sure or do you want to jump into that Google one real quick just so
people can know what I'm talking about yeah sure let's do that
we won't we won't leave them hanging on this yeah so so this is Google Project
Tango um which the idea is there there's
a video and honestly I I I don't know if we should watch probably just watch it
the it's fairly long it's three minutes it's not that bad all right why don't we
just watch it guys we're gonna watch this video together all
right my name is Johnny Lee and I work in the advanced technology and projects
group at Google our small sorry I paused
it I'm just adjusting the volume for you all team here based in California has
been working with universities research Labs and Industrial Partners to harvest
the last 10 years of research in robotics and computer vision to
concentrate that technology into a very unique mobile phone we are physical
beings that live in a 3D world yet
mobile devices today assume that the physical world ends at the boundaries of
the screen our goal is to give mobile devices a human scale understanding of
space and motion is going to allow people to interact with their
environment in just a fundamentally different way and we can prototype
coule take us months or even years before because we didn't have this
technology readily available that's what he sees what happens if you have all of
these pieces in A phone how does that change what a phone
is okay maybe we don't have to watch the created a
prototype that gives you guys some idea of what's what's up
um and then the rest of the video is talking about the excitement they have
about development for this technology and the Prototype or well devkit devices
that they have built I think there's 2,000 correct I think there's 200 200 I
think so we need to sign up for one good luck but sure I will make something in
unity okay outside of hours I will make
something up to you I want one of these things I want to mount it to the front
of an Oculus do or do you just PL want to mount it yeah okay yeah mainly mount
it to the front of an Oculus though because you know people have been mounting webcams okay so let's talk a
little bit about what it is more uh they've been working with tons of
universities research Labs and Industrial Partners spanning across nine
countries around the world um they've been doing tons of different stuff and
the goal of Project Tango is to give mobile devices a human scale
understanding of space and motion a direct quote okay yeah I didn't know if
that was in the video or not um I do not have audio there it's a direct quote
from them um it's customized Hardware blah blah blah blah blah basically you
can walk around with this thing and it can 3D map your environment this is
supposed to be good because you can translate your position orientation and
depth to apps um written in Java C C++
and unity Unity is a very good engine
for doing stuff with oculus rift so
they're looking into this as like you can help people that are blind you can
help uh uh map environment so you could you could look at a different area in
your house and then digitally put in Furniture which you can already do but
not very well this you could do it very effectively um you you could find things
in a store with it more easily you could you could map out an environment in your
you could go into your garage empty the floor map it out with your phone hook up
on an Oculus and then have that whole area generated to be something that it
isn't right now which is really cool or
you could even do things like I mean a garage cleaning is something that you
know homeowners like myself are hate and wish that something just do it for me
what if I could just map out my garage and my phone could tell me the most
optimal place to put everything why not
someone could do that that's definitely doable there could be an app for that
there's also scary implementations um how do you know this
thing is on how do you know it's not porting that information the NSA it's
going to help people attract you blah blah blah blah blah yeah there's all the
terrible terrible hiding behind something it could it could show people
that you're hiding behind something like there's there's terrible stuff obviously
like with everything we report ever nowadays I know but um Oculus yeah I can
see this being super super cool for VR um because something we talked about
multiple times in the past actually was um Oculus Rift laser tag essentially oh
wouldn't that be amazing you map the whole house with your phone yeah then
you throw on Oculus with like laptop backpacks and like oh yeah you could
even like you could get like armed up and uh get like all kitted out like Jeff
here Jeff is our co-host by the way yeah Jeff is our is our co-host he's been
he's well he's more like a producer he's overseeing the operation here yeah um
but like holy crap for gaming so cool
this would be absolutely amazing augmented reality virtual reality all
that kind of stuff that's like the the reality that's different from the other
more different boring reality oh I
really hope Paul and the guys at Oculus are just jumping all over this because
holy cow this integrated with a rift would be fantastic yeah I'd be all over that
because that's amazing I I don't know the the only thing I care about in this
whole set is the the ability for it to easily pour it into Unity because I'm
like yeah although the the helping uh visually impaired is very cool and like
something they're saying is they could walk around with the phone it could be mounted somewhere or something and then
it could translate information about the environment around them to audio
right so you be like oh there's a wall hey there's a car coming there's a car coming uh turn right uh there's a
crosswalk whatever like it could it could tell you what's going on around
you which is actually really cool someone's telling me to talk about the new YouTube layout I don't think it's
good to get me started on that probably not no we're just not going to do that
anyway extremely exciting totally not here yet
but uh much hope for the future so
awesome very good anyway bit torrent to launch a live
video streaming app this is a story from The Verge and the app will be it's
actually been available for a while but much like anything that bit torrent does
it's really not very exciting until there's a whole bunch of users making it
awesome because it's all based on peer-to-peer sharing so the way it works
now is if you wanted to watch uh Canada destroy the US I shouldn't say destroy
it was only one nothing but anyway if you want to watch Canada beat the US you
have to go to cbc.ca or wherever it is that you're watching it and then they
have to stream that to everyone the way
that this would work much like everything bit torrent does is it would
stream to one user who would stream who
would take a downstream and then maybe two or three upstreams and stream to
more users and it would spread that way so that the bandwidth requirements are
distributed and so that it's much easier to do things that are very challenging
right now for services like Netflix and YouTube whether it's agreements with
isps or just plain simple network
capacity and that is get the content
closer to the person who wants it and uh
Netflix has offered to go as far as installing their own Hardware in uh
isp's data centers so that they can be as close as possible to the people who
want the content so you're not just wasting bandwidth you know having it
having the data travel further than it has to well what this would do is it
would not only decrease the bandwidth cost for whoever's hosting the content
So speaking of the new YouTube layout if for whatever reason lonus Media Group
was just like you know what screw it we don't want to do this YouTube thing
anymore we want to stream our videos ourselves it would dramatically reduce
the startup bandwidth cost and our Reliance on sponsors to pay for
it but then you guys would share the burden yeah which is really really cool
and it's exciting for smaller people like honestly we could probably handle
it we're of a size now that we could probably do it even if we had to do like
like a donation thing we'd be like okay guys look we got to pay for our own bandwidth now help us out I think you
guys would do that but for someone really small this this could save their
butt and this like some something we talked about in the better than Bieber
segment people were talking you you did Hot Spot Shield right after that so people were saying if if you're in one
of those countries or something like that Hotpot Shield can help you get information out if if you want to like
like stream video a mixture of this and Hotspot Shield could really help you if
say all you had was cellular data right cuz one upst stream just pushing on one
dude and then maybe you've got one buddy in the states or something that's got a
really nice internet connection or or or Europe or whatever that can push out to
even more and then more more more more more more more it can spread so it's going to be launched in an alpha State I
think sometime this year was the uh the
timeline given yeah will be released in Alpha and I mean they are doing so much
amazing stuff right now speaking of being a Pioneer and trying to shake a
negative stigma or trying to shake the stigma of being associated with piracy
and with you know law breaking bit torrent holy crap these guys are on fire
between bit torren syn this their chat
application speaking of free Alternatives that could give something
like whatpp a run for its money I wonder what I wonder what bit torrent is going
to be valued at in 10 years yeah they're moving they're moving real hard they're
moving real hard and like we we talked a while ago when they came out uh this was
back when we were in the garage I think I put an article in the doc saying about
how bit Tor was like whoa whoa whoa stop attributing us with piracy yeah and we
were both like yeah we laughed yeah we
were wrong yep well we're wrong now I deserve
that moving on um yeah I think that's
pretty much it last videos would start
slow yeah all good stuff yep all right
so watching movies on the Oculus could be a thing I can think of certain kinds
of movies I would want to watch on the Oculus one of which is obviously the um
Pirates of the Caribbean there's a new one coming that's where I was going with
that anyway so this is an article from new
film school oh man so so zero point uh
is a project by condition one and is
actually about the Oculus Rift device and it will be viewable on the Oculus
drift device which is fantastic um they've also made things earlier that me
let iPad users move through footage with 120 180 Dee field of vision sorry about
that I muted that before I started oh
wow the ad you cannot M the ad that's
brutal anyway sorry go ahead uh where was I yeah so they
they're they make this kind stuff and they're going to continue making this
kind of stuff which is cool I'm pretty excited to see this um there's an
interactive trailer is that where you were you trailer so apparently the
trailer has a non-mutable ad so we're not going to watch the trailer um but if
you want to find it it's condition one.com zero whatever just Google it um
and it'll be in the doc later once it's posted on the Forum later today
hopefully so you can check that out um I think this is super cool I think it's
super cool I mean I don't necessarily see the relevance for something like um
for something like a fiction like I think being able to walk around in the
hobbit 2 would have actually even further removed any believability from
that movie but of course I'm not going to rant about it I'm not I promised not to do that but for something like a
sporting event oh yeah super cool okay
so picture this instead of cameras just
pointing at the ice and you have those viewpoints they have 3D modeling cameras
so you have them all over the place to the point where you could either attend
the game in person or you could buy a virtual ticket because they're not going
to give you this for free no you could buy a virtual ticket and stand on the
ice epic of a hockey game right think about that Imagine The View modes too
you know how when you're in a game you can like select different view modes
free view or like player attached imagine you could just be attached on
like the head position of one of the players so if you could just like GoPro
on to any player on the ice if like what
is it like to play as uh an NFL
quarterback for a day yeah like you just you buy your ticket which would probably
be cheaper than an in-person ticket and probably a way cooler experience you
strap on your Oculus and holy crap we
need to get this is something I've been interested in for a really long time you know uh like sensory deprivation chamber
things we need to get those but completely the opposite it needs to be
like sensory overload chamber where you can wear some type of VR technology and
then have the this thing inject smells why would we want this and inject like
temperatures so you could like feel like you are somewhere like if you're running
through a meadow it's going to smell and feel like you're running through a meadow it can simulate wind it can make
itell Sate wind oh god um like like uh I
think it was at Disneyland they have that one where you go over an orange
field and it smells like oranges while you're doing it that'd be very cool like
that would be epic and I don't know maybe Sports is going to be smelly but
like still if they can get that experience so you actually feel like
you're there oh man that would be so cool Yep this is going to be amazing I
mean one of the uses they're talking about is in a documentary type films so
you could see from different perspectives I mean really to
me this is going to I mean okay there's going to be this in between stage where
you can do things like pan from one thing to another so like the scene is
going on like kind of over there but you could go look at the dog if you wanted
like stuff no one's really going to want to do yeah and that's going to be you
know you'll need like a fancy camera to capture that but then when what's really
coming is when you can use multiple
cameras to capture a much larger scene and then recreate it as a virtual event
I mean imagine this if uh something like
what's going on in Ukraine right now if everyone had their cell phones out and
was collecting footage which is already going on anyway if you could just
virtually move around in this space if
you could recreate something like a riot
or event I mean okay forget forget Ukraine for a second okay so when Canada
loses hockey games Vancouver riots so if
the police could take all that cell phone footage Stitch it together and go
walk through it and find out who freaking started it they're still
persecuting people for that eh yeah they just Prosecuting
sorry uh they they just pulled in I think three more people so imagine that
imagine law en enforcement with this I
mean yeah but then imagine all the negative things yeah it's like with
cameras everywhere everything we report on now this is super cool and horribly
terrible I don't know what else to say
uh yeah but I'm I'm stoked because it would also be really cool in movies like
uh that were very like vocal heavy there's a lot of
talking yeah like that one good scene in The Hobbit stop stop stop okay should
have seen him the day after he watched the movie
stop because like if if you could feel like you're partaking in the
conversation just as a silent member of the conversation that would be really
cool um anyways moving on to what more
Oculus mhm like you can tell who works on the
dock he so they are suspending sales of
the rift developer kit but will not confirm if there is to be a new
developer kit available soon so not NE
they're not necessarily suspending sales they're just not Distributing anymore so
they're not making them yeah they're not making them anymore so if they sell it in a region you won't be able to get
them in that region anymore um yay um there there's a whole bunch of
information coming out about what could possibly be in DK2 development kit 2 and
a lot of people are wondering if it's going to be a slightly further version
than Crystal Cove um because there has been people recently tweeting out saying
that they've gone to Oculus headquarters and have seen something that's just
absolutely blown them off their feet and they're they're not allowed talking
about it and all it's going to stuff is under NDA but that was very recent and
now they're stopping production holy crap I want DK2 now
development kit 2 now um I'm I'm super
incredibly stoked there's also another thing um Oculus has filed for rifton the
trademark for rifton so there's probably going to be some sort of um conference
VR conference or convention or something
like that who knows I'd imagine that um it'd be the least expensive conference
ever to
attend I'd hope so I'd hope that they would have some way to be able to attend
it in that form especially with did you see those little like cameras on wheels
that were going around CES yeah yeah like if they had those but 360 degree
cameras fantastic yeah that'd be epic
um yeah so they haven't they hav haven't commented on a kit but I'm it's pretty
pretty sure a Kit's coming although that could just be hopeful wishing I'm not
entirely sure speaking of of Wishful hopeful things what if there was an app
to make it so you can see better skip this ad okay so this is the claim and
this is on popular mechanics.com this is not on like the onion
okay so there's a whole spiel about how
baseball players and such and such they have very little time to something
something anyway don't worry too much about that what this app does is it
actually trains the brain not the eyes
to interpret what the eyes are seeing better so we're going to go ahead and
this time I'm going to be ready to mute the PC if something disastrous happens
there you go yes good work go away
amazing in motion nobody cares okay well
whatever anyway that's that's coming in a moment not mutable before so what it
does is it it when you sit in front of it and you you recognize you identify
shapes for a period of time that I
actually haven't tried it yet but the whole point of all of this is guys it's
I'm going to post the link in the twitch chat which I always forget to do I know
we should do this on every single article there we go so I'm going to post
the link in the twitch chat and the idea is that by training your brain to
recognize there you go so you guys can see kind of what's up now you go to
recognize these things it will allow you to achieve significantly better vision
and the article claims forget about 2020
I think they were saying that there were people achieving like 27 which means that you can see from 20
ft what most people would see from
7t which is bananas absolutely bananas
so my suggestion was going to be that we all try it this week and then we come
back next week and we can do a a Twitter
Blitz and I'd love to hear from everyone how effective it was for them so that
that's it it was just something cool that I wanted to talk about which I
guess is this entire show speaking of something not cool that
we're going to talk about Irrational Games uh is closing their doors sort of
as you knew them I think he's keeping about 15 members he's keeping some
employees um and they're moving and they're they're they're supporting and
helping the employees that they're not keeping a lot they're even hosting job
fairs where people from other companies can come to their offices and meet the
people that they're not keeping and possibly hire them I know Bethesda
scooped up a few or is looking into scooping up a few and like who's not
going to want people from a rational games at this point um so I wouldn't be
too worried if I was an employee at rational games they're not pulling an EA
they're actually trying to like help their employees out that they're not
keeping um and they're they're giving the IP of Bioshock to 2K which makes
sense yep um and yeah he's moving on
he's trying to do a more entrepreneurial kind of endeavor at take two he was
going to go fully independent but he kind of said uh this sorry this is Kevin
LaVine um but he kind of said Okay I want to refocus on a smaller group I'm
going to go I'm going to go Indie I'm going to go independent and uh you know
I want a smaller team I want a flatter reporting structure I don't want to be
such a ginormous you know company working on such a ginormous project
anymore um we did this we started this years ago and it's been a wild rde but I
want to do something smaller and take two basically said look let us support
you within our ecosystem so he's still going to stay there but Irrational Games
as you knew it is pretty much gone yeah and like they're doing that because Take
2 helped them a lot in the past as well this isn't really a new thing he's not
jumping ship randomly this is this is this made sense already so it's it's I'm
kind of sad but I hope for good things he's quoted saying if we're lucky will
build something half as memorable as Bioshock and I'm sure considering it's
Kevin LaVine that he will try extremely hard so I I'm excited for what they make
um I'm also still excited for the future of Bioshock it's not over I just hope
it's Bioshock too sure made it look like it was over yeah but then it came back
but then BioShock Infinite was freaking amazing um I don't know why the whole
internet like flipped when it became Awards time on BHO infinite everyone
loved it then it was like Awards time then it was like no it's sucks and then
it still one things last thing is the gaming The Gaming Community is very
fickle yeah the attention span is very short and you forget how good things
were I think I think that's a big problem it's not a multiplayer game so people aren't playing it every day that
even ties in something that reminded me um of the exact thing that happened with
BioShock Infinite was um the stares in the next great Starship thing y it
became the Wild Card round so everyone was voting for what one they thought was
the best in the wild card so what didn't make it through the judge voting um and
like a m M percentage of the votes were for something that was from the most
recent episode yep and that's because when you went to go view it it was just
names of teams no pictures of the gun nothing like that so even when I was
looking through it trying to be super objective I was like I don't remember
two-thirds of these because they're an old episodes like what the heck was that
so I don't know that's it the internet forgets everyone forgets it makes sense
the actually I was having this conversation with um with Ed today edel
our editor anyway um we were Mar at some classic memes that a lot of the
kids today aren't aware of like all your base has disappeared off the face of the
Earth replaced by such Doge so coin
whatever like whatever the the flavor of the day is it is so easy for stuff to
completely disappear and um and like
people still remember it but it's not it's not circulated yeah it's it's not
in the flow like everything else is um speaking oh yeah this is a topic
that isn't on the dock but I did want to bring up very briefly Square Enix has
talked about the possibility of more Final Fantasy development on the PC cool
it's been a long time yeah seriously I mean that was that Final Fantasy sold a
lot of PlayStation ones and a fair number of PlayStation
2s um you know I I think a lot of PC
people would have loved to have I mean they've really expanded the platforms
that the games are available on a lot over the over the last few years I mean
the remakes on Android are probably the most notable ones I actually did re one
of them now that I think about no maybe it was DS yeah I bought like a Final
Fantasy 1 or Final Fantasy 2 remake for the DS um and that's been such a cash
cow for them and such a such a great move for them that I really have to
wonder is anyone at Square Enix watching why the hell don't you go back to making
good games yeah uh tying into that this
isn't even in the dock but apparently the the source and everything for Thief
was released oh yeah it was leaked uh there's there's ending of the game
videos on YouTube already I think someone was streaming the game on Twitch
like it's like leaked like out there not
a little bit um people have mapped out certain levels and people are pissed
really like not stoked at all especially
the guys that used to play um Thief I haven't touched it yet I don't know I'm
not going to touch the leaked code I'm going to wait till it comes out blah blah blah blah blah um but people are
complaining in because apparently it's just way too easy and apparently someone
has already beat it from beginning to end without cheating and I think it was
like 6 hours wow so yeah one thing that
they do have is there's like uh voluntary difficulty scaling yeah so you
can put in like handicaps essentially like one of them is if you're ever
detected you just lose um another one is if you die be anchi it's not AAP it's
you you get more points okay sure so yeah whoever played a game for points
I know um like honestly you either beat the thing or you don't like for most
people I know some people are going to try to get every bandage in Super Meat
Boy and that's cool I respect that but
most people don't do that and usually it's a cool addition that's that's how I
see most achievement kind of things it's like oh I really like this game here's
something that can get me to continue playing some some sort of goal yeah like
like with the idea with Thief when I heard about those additional difficulty
things was oh cool I really liked the
thief games that's like why I like certain game types now are because it
reminds me of thief right um so when I
saw that I was like oh cool once I beat the game once I'm done playing the game
normally I can go back and put on like a combination of modes where if you're
ever detected you die and if you ever die it deletes your game so I could do
that and be like super hardcore and then see if I could beat it like that makes
sense I mean it's such a fine balance you know what with a series like Thief
what I'll have what I'll say about that is you're damned if you do your damned
if you don't if you change the gam playay a lot then the hardcores who
really loved the old games are going to hate you for it and if you don't change
it enough then you're not innovating and
it's it'll be another BioShock 2 what was the complaint about BioShock 2 well
it was just that they copy pasted how much how much do we complain about copy
pasting and then how much do we complain when someone actually innovates and my
point about Final Fantasy I'm going to come back to that for a minute because
this this is very close to my heart as a DI hard f Fantasy 6 lover is that it is
not the same thing you do not have to
make a change to the combat system at
all you could use a combat system from any decent Final Fantasy game whether
it's uh five six 79 um I'm just trying to think of other
ones that I liked off the top of my head but anyway you could take any good combat system and you tie it into a
halfway decent story with a decent length and that's the kind of gameplay
it is who plays Final Fantasy for the
combat that's that's one thing with Thief though that people have been
complaining about is apparently you can run through the game like a Rambo and
the whole the whole thing and a lot of like uh reviewers that have been able to
play it early have been saying it's incredibly difficult to do combat but
then apparently the guy that ran through it in like six hours just like killed
everyone and it was like yeah yeah you just shoot everybody and then and then
pick up all the things which is like not how Thief is supposed to be played
you're supposed to to not be the greatest combatant you're supposed to
have to beat the game by stealing things that's the whole point you're a thief so
I don't know that doesn't make any
sense no I don't know I'm I'm still uh I
haven't given up hope I am hoping that it's just some like crazy hype train you
haven't given up hope yeah when's the last time a game got leaked and panned
and it turned out to be awesome okay so moving on uh GTX 750 Ti
NVIDIA's most efficient GPU yet the
article that I will refer to is our own
video because this is something we covered it's funny on W show we tend not
to cover anything that we covered well
because they just go watch the Youtube video well yeah but that's I mean that's
assuming a lot that's assuming that people want to watch our YouTube videos
they seem to I'm pretty you know what I'm I'm going to create a straw pool for
this I'm you know what why don't you just hate some
more straw pole. y yep I'm going to
create a new straw pole do you oh okay here what for what
do you watch sorry I should probably just start using our own Forum yeah we should probably start using our own
forum for we have a poll on our own Forum okay LTT plus when plus Tech
quickie okay uh LTT plus
when LT only and then when only what what are
some of the other options anyone watching this show must watch t and Tech
cookie but well they watch when so there
are already options in here that don't really make any sense yeah never mind um
well whatever TQ only find so I'm talking like what do you actually follow
what do you regularly watch so if this is the only time you've ever watched The
W show Maybe not maybe don't include W
but if it's like a part of your thing to watch The W show all the time then
include it then yeah we're curious we want to know like what you guys are actually watching here so to be clear LT
is Linus techip YouTube channel TQ is
the Techquickie YouTube channel my secondary Channel and then when is this
particular show because there is a large subset of our viewers and I know this
already that do not watch W show even
though they're regular viewers like I people like six months in to Luke being
on the W show but not appearing in other videos we'd have people being like holy
crap it's slick and like I'm not I'm not like I'm
not hating on these people or anything it's just it's like um it's just like
okay you you clearly don't watch The W show and that's fine I think that's
slowed down a lot there's still a little bit where someone would be like oh my
God his name is Luke Luke whatever and I'm just like
yeah yeah and that's fine I mean and some people kind of go away and they
don't watch it for 6 months and they come back and then then it's surprising
and that's mostly gone but but I'm just sort of curious how many of you don't in the meantime we'll talk about 750 Ti um
not a whole lot to say very competitively positioned very power
efficient very quiet look at that cooler there's like nothing to it at all it's
kind of ugly it's only about the length of a PCI Express slot which okay now we
made fun of this both of us you and I are both guilty we trolled the hell out
of the 650 TI yeah that little tiny PCB
but then when I needed a car C with an
h264 decoder on it for my media
PC what did I have to
use I had to find that short PCB card to
install an alen Lee PC Q7 still funny it's still funny it still looks
ridiculous but there is a market for a card that is very power efficient
doesn't require an external power connector see no power connector and is
really really short so you can fit it in almost anything Y and like it it it
shines as we talked about earlier it shines greatly if you're looking for
very power efficient mining now all the
charts that people are showing is um like very heavily based on power
efficiency it's not the craziest minor out there yeah but for how much power it
draws it is extremely strong so it's it's that how you're rating it kind of
deal so if you want to run a ton of these on low amount of power and have it
output a good amount for how much power you're using that makes sense and then a
lot of people do worry about that because if you're trying to legitimately make money off of mining your power bill
is probably kind of really important to you that's a major factor yeah so if you
can get that down and still be making a fair amount then that's really good
because you have a if you have to get that that raw profit
up all right so let's have a look at the straw pole before or did you have any
more topics you wanted to cover uh there's like random things like uh the
power laes possibly coming in 2015 there's nothing really else to say about
that though that's fine um power laces from Back to the Future
might be coming in 2015 yeah hold I'll find a picture this is posted on the
verge by The Verge thank you Verge we love you Verge um I think they have a
video of how it like was worked in I found out why we haven't got Joshua
tulsky as a guest yet why um well he had a baby oh so he's kind of busy and stuff
yeah that makes sense yep makes perfect sense that's okay he has all the time he
wants yep also oh my goodness I got a message Tom Merit also agreed to come on
the show but he's been like he just started up his own thing he's been crazy
crazy busy but yeah we definitely want them as a guest so anyway these
fictional sneakers will be uh will be coming so power power laes yeah power
laces they're not going to be on shoes that look like this well they they
should be they totally should be I would definitely get some of those I mean they
did limited oh my goodness I'm not screen sharing they did a limited edition run uh back in
2011 y of 1500 of these shoes but I
would love to see them actually bring the would you wear them yeah you would
wear them yeah just because the back is the future
reference if it wasn't for Back to the Future I probably wouldn't get those I
probably but like because it's back to the future and because certain nerdy
people would be like yeah then yeah I'd
do that so nerd street cred is worth
looking like a dumbass to other people yeah
okay that's fine I'm not saying that's wrong I wear certain things because it
has nerd street cred y like that video game high school shirt that you
apparently never take off sweater yeah
but yeah all right so let's go to our
poll what do you guys watch 70% of you apparently will watch
any crappy thing that we make sweet so that new channel yeah we should totally
make new channels like Linus stormtrooper armor just doing
things entirely new channel for this just L and Stor trooper armor takes out
the garbage reality TV has reached a new
low thrilling it was raining this time D
I don't even know if I'd want to take $1,500 stormtrooper armor out in the
rain well it's plastic it's plastic but even so yeah yeah here maybe I should he
takes it out in the rain exciting new episode this week on TLC all right so uh
I can't read the straw pole unless I hold this here uh lius Tech tips and
Tech or and when gets you better do this okay so lonus
Tech tips and W show gets 22% of the vote wow only gets 4% that's actually a
lot higher than I expected uh lineus Tech tips and Techquickie no W show is
about 2% of the vote that makes sense because that would be people that are watching The W show that are but are
possibly new to it um Linus Tech tips only is only about 1% again that's
people that are probably just new to the W show and TW TW quickie TW quickie Tech
quickie is about 1% as well with only about nine votes so not that many people
are coming from only Techquickie and now watching The W show but there is
some of them and the mass majority of people watch just basically everything
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