The WAN Show: NVIDIA vs AMD... FIGHT! Watch Dogs Pirates Get Screwed - May 30th, 2014

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0:34 really you have to go at 6 what do you think this is some kind of company where
0:38 like work ends at 6 I think this is the first time that I've even said that in
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0:49 wearing my lav mic I'm going to take my lav mic off you know what I wonder if
0:52 that would just be the solution I should I should yell at Brandon to bring me the
0:56 other thing and if we just each wore lavs I wonder if that would just be
1:00 better anyway guys we've got a great show for you today as always this week
1:05 the big topics are the Gameworks controversy NVIDIA and AMD are added
1:11 again and surprising super butt hurt at
1:14 each other again surprising we're really surprised oh yeah here you're a little
1:18 far over that way scooch in we never uh
1:21 we never can quite get the whole where we should put like x's on the chair so
1:27 that we know like where it aligns with kind of the
1:30 butthole so that you can be in exactly the right spot every
1:34 week yeah that would work yep I mean if
1:38 we didn't want to go for the whole butthole thing then we could just put
1:41 like butt marks around the outside of where the cheeks go but then if one of
1:45 us put on some weight then we wouldn't be able to see them anyway not that
1:49 that's happened to either of us
1:52 lately we switch we switched didn't we
1:56 oh my goodness we did too yeah
2:00 you'll get it back I don't talk about it all right so there's the NVIDIA AMD
2:04 thing there's an SSD middleware that could be coming that could they're
2:09 claiming quadruple your SSD's performance and this is without actually
2:13 buying a new SSD although I'd be surprised to see something like that
2:17 implemented for free what else we got
2:21 who I got to jump back up there uh Google is going to start building their own self-driving cars they've had this
2:25 kind of stuff going around for a while but they're actually going to start manufacturing these cars which is really
2:29 interesting and true Crypt may or may not be compromised we talk about that more
2:34 later May or not yeah there's new stuff that I found recently oh even more new
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3:46 more about that later after we actually do a show here so first order of
3:53 business you know what why don't we just straight up jump into the NVIDIA AMD
3:58 thing I think that's uh that's a pretty nice topic to give to the people who
4:02 were sitting there waiting for us to start the show you guys are awesome
4:06 thank you for being on time even though we rarely are were we on time today is
4:11 is like 1 minute late yeah I think we're like 1 minute late and we pre- streamed
4:15 a little bit before but like my laptop
4:18 still isn't plugged in so if screen sharing doesn't work the way that it
4:22 normally should we that checklist we're yeah we're we're going to be in a little
4:26 bit of trouble here so yeah
4:30 all right okay so this was posted originally by Booker dwit on the Forum
4:36 and it is an article from Forbes about Why Watch Dogs is bad news for AMD users
4:43 and potentially the entire PC gaming
4:47 ecosystem so this isn't exactly a new thing for AMD to wave the flag about and
4:53 what they're basically saying is that Gameworks represents a clear and present
4:58 threat to gamers by deliberately crippling performance on AMD products
5:02 now what Gameworks effectively is is it's a um it's a it's a toolkit that
5:09 game developers can use to implement features or um basically features
5:13 features or graphical um well really
5:16 features features it's features it's features Implement features into their
5:21 games without actually coding the whole
5:24 thing themselves so when I was at NVIDIA's um Montreal event they were
5:29 showing off some of the big improvements that they had made recently to GameWorks
5:33 with things like particles and fire
5:36 where to to put it sort of in really
5:39 really simple terms it's kind of like on a camera having a profile that makes the
5:45 image look better or adds an effect to your image where the game developer
5:50 doesn't actually have to dial in all the manual settings and figure out how to do
5:54 themselves so it's basically like think of it like dragging and dropping fire
5:57 effects into your game so that it looks like this great realistic fire when all
6:03 you had to do yourself was like put it there and then it animates itself so
6:09 that's what Gameworks is but what AMD
6:12 doesn't like about it is that developers
6:15 license these proprietary NVIDIA Technologies in order to make their
6:20 games look great but that doesn't give AMD any kind of real insight or
6:25 necessarily a way to optimize their driver to perform well when rendering
6:30 that feature in that game so things like smoke and lighting and textures and
6:35 shadows and all that kind of stuff can
6:38 hurt performance on AMD cards says Robert HCK so participation often okay
6:44 so okay this is from the original article so participation in the
6:48 Gameworks program often precludes the developer from accepting AMD suggestions
6:52 that would improve performance directly in the game code the most desirable form
6:56 of optimization so basically he's also
7:00 saying that this makes it more difficult for them to perform their own after the
7:04 fact driver optimizations and it's basically yeah
7:09 you know AMD doesn't support or condone such activities and it's like super
7:13 poopy and terrible now a couple days went by and
7:18 NVIDIA fired back and suris how long it took actually I'm a little surprised at
7:22 how long it took but I can understand why they would have wanted to be very
7:26 careful about their response they don't want to say anything that's
7:30 that's not correct so NVIDIA came back and said look we'll have a we have a
7:34 kickoff meeting with the developers we'll brainstorm cool new effects we'll
7:37 show them the cataloges that we have and then we'll prototype something outside
7:42 of their engine give them an idea what the effect might look like and we work
7:45 with the developers but we don't and never have restricted anyone from
7:49 getting access as part of our agreements not with Watchdogs and not with other
7:54 titles our agreements focus on interesting things we're going to do
7:57 together to improve the experience for all PC Gamers and of course for NVIDIA
8:01 customers we don't have anything in there restricting anyone from accessing
8:05 source code or binaries and developers are free to give builds out to whoever
8:09 they want it's their
8:13 product so pretty much where we're at right now
8:19 is he says she says which is the usual thing with AMD and NVIDIA um I don't
8:24 think I don't think we're likely to get any kind of an official response from
8:29 any game developer because the last thing they're going to want to do is
8:32 jeopardize their relationship remember game developers need both AMD and NVIDIA
8:37 on board ultimately even uh the way it's meant to be played
8:42 title the dev wants it to run on AMD cards they're not going to ignore 40% of
8:47 the market or 30 however odd percent of the market by just making it run like
8:51 poo on AMD cards if they don't have to there's there's some speculation about
8:55 the whole source code thing because they could be like yeah you can release the
8:59 source code but our parts are up fiscated so you can't actually read that
9:03 part of the source codes you can get to some of it but then whenever one of the
9:07 game works effects is going to go off you're really not going to know what's
9:11 happening there so it's it's it's it comes down to wording and what's
9:15 actually being said so let's talk a little bit about what you'd rather see I
9:20 mean AMD did their whole mantle thing
9:23 which I don't think they've actually opened it up to NVIDIA yet even though
9:27 they said that they would at some point point where basically the game would
9:32 have to be coded completely differently to run um on directex versus on mantle
9:38 whereas what NVIDIA is doing is they're approaching developers and going okay
9:42 here's a feature it'll run on whatever
9:46 but the performance is obviously you
9:49 built for our Hardware we're optimizing for NVIDIA um and the positive and
9:54 negative things here are both pretty clear to me so positive number one is
9:58 that we're getting much better visual effects than we otherwise would have
10:01 been able to or much less work required
10:05 for very small devs to create visually
10:08 stunning games games that will run on AMD but won't necessarily perform the
10:13 best and then the disadvantage is that it creates this segmentation where
10:19 NVIDIA is kind of helping developers
10:22 make games that run better on NVIDIA
10:27 hardware and potentially depending on who you believe make it more difficult
10:31 to run on AMD Hardware or at least more difficult to optimize yeah I don't know
10:36 if I'd say more difficult to run so if you had your
10:39 way would you say I developer X I would
10:44 like you to use Gameworks or I wouldn't like you to use
10:47 Gameworks and let's say let's say I let's give you guys two you know what
10:51 let's straw straw pull it so I want two options I want AAA developer and then I
10:57 want Indie developer so allow multip poll choices so AA developer yes AAA
11:03 developer no Indie yes indie no would
11:06 you like for them to use it or would you like for them to not if they can save
11:10 some Dev costs if they can bring it to you earlier if they can spend that time
11:14 on developing gameplay more as opposed to animating better fire or something
11:20 like that how do you guys feel about it
11:23 because I mean for to me game works is a
11:26 very natural evolution of what already
11:29 existed as uh gaming evolved the way
11:33 it's meant to be played these programs where NVIDIA and AMD and often both of
11:38 them at the same time are working very closely with game developers in order to
11:43 optimize the game to me this is just NVIDIA taking a very proactive approach
11:48 to that so instead of a game developer building something bringing it to NVIDIA
11:52 and them going okay let's optimize it they're giving them something that's optimized in the first
11:56 place it doesn't feel wrong to to
12:00 me but it does put AMD at a disadvantage
12:03 but that's just AMD or that's just NVIDIA working very closely with
12:08 developers and proactively helping developers make better games even though
12:12 they could they could go out of their way and let the source code be leaked to
12:16 MD if you were NVIDIA would you do
12:19 that see but they built the technology yeah you've got you've got multiple
12:24 Arguments for that as well but then you can turn around and go AMD built tress
12:27 effects and allows anyone to use it in
12:30 all one game that it's being used in whereas NVIDIA has created to I mean I
12:34 mean that's something that I got to look at too and I go okay AMD or NVIDIA can
12:39 say here's what we're giving to developers but at the end of the day
12:43 whether or not developers are using them to me even though I'm not a Game Dev and
12:46 I don't really understand how these tools work very intimately I look at it
12:50 and I go well this is the one the developers are actually
12:54 using how useful was the other stuff that they're not using I don't know yeah
12:59 I don't know personally I don't think I'm as as against games works as a lot
13:03 of people are and that's that's another thing too like if you look back at the Forbes article they have a picture for
13:09 uh 290x versus
13:13 770 if you see that oh uh can you send
13:18 me the link it's in the dock it's in the dock oh that makes sense okay right
13:22 there there we go all right so guys here's the the image that Luke is
13:25 referring to and then if you go to I wonder if I can find it it on the
13:29 network I should be able to find it on the network I should have looked for this earlier but my charts I seriously
13:34 don't think it was that bad like the the the Gap differences for tier equivalents
13:39 right were really not that far away
13:43 especially considering like how scared so many people were at the very
13:47 beginning and considering that we run
13:50 stock coolers on everything so the current invidious stock coolers are
13:54 making colder cards than the current AMD ones are which are running really hot so
13:58 a lot of and NVIDIA benefit from a
14:01 cooler running card y exactly so some of our overclocks are getting higher on
14:05 NVIDIA right now just cuz we have more overclocking headro due to thermals if
14:08 we we we do stock cards so next
14:12 Generation might flipflop who know reference cards reference cards yeah
14:15 sorry um so like it's not like that
14:19 changed and the AMD cards are still really close so I don't know I don't see
14:23 it being this horrible thing that everyone's talking about like maybe it
14:27 was harder for AMD to do it I know talking about how they're not going to be able to fix it as much afterwards
14:32 with drivers as they could have before um it's in the actual folder for the
14:36 actual thing yeah it's okay I mean ultimately the thing here though is that
14:40 both AMD and NVIDIA did manage to have
14:44 optimized drivers available for the game's public release and then for all
14:49 the good it did anyone because Watch Dogs is well yeah a bit of a dog right
14:56 now in the Forbes article he's showing 29 X and 770 being very competitive in
15:01 mine here I've got it now here we go
15:05 there so guys have a look at this so we've got 780 and 290x being within 10%
15:12 of each other and then 290 trailing another couple of percent after that
15:17 with 770 getting absolutely destroyed and like everyone calls us NVIDIA
15:22 Fanboys and like what the Forbes article showed them with the 770 winning and
15:27 they're like AMD was crushed in this blah blah like no they did totally fine
15:33 it wasn't even that bad if for for how much they were
15:37 suppressed and stuff yeah like I don't actually see it as being that big of a
15:40 deal maybe the run that I had didn't have a crazy amount of Game Works
15:45 effects I don't like I don't know I
15:49 really don't I got wonder what forbes.com knows about game benchmarking
15:53 anyway no and I'm not even I'm not even I actually didn't read the article so
15:58 straight up didn't read the article maybe you guys can tell me maybe they have a fantastic benchmarking
16:02 methodology I'll be the first to admit ours isn't the best either but I I like
16:07 I just I wonder how they're actually benchmarking the game uh because it just
16:12 has nothing to do with the results that we're getting so and I to my knowledge
16:17 they haven't done a ton of video card reviews like I saw an R9 295x2 one
16:21 because I was getting a lot of tweets back when that card was released going hey lonus why did you not get a sample
16:27 of this card and for .c did and I was kind of like I don't know um because
16:32 Forbes isn't really known they're more known for market analysis and less known
16:36 for actually taking physical hardware and reviewing it so it just seemed like
16:40 a bit of a a bit of a weird thing to me yeah so there you have it guys um that's
16:47 the current state of affairs we'll update you guys if anything happens but
16:51 I personally see this as a bit of a
16:54 nonissue for the moment especially because the differences in performance
16:58 really don't look very different from other games whether they are a way it's
17:02 meant to be played or a gaming evolved title in fact I haven't seen obvious
17:08 optimization to the point where it's like yes this game is clearly
17:11 handicapped in a really long time
17:16 yeah all right so moving on to our next
17:19 topic speaking of Watch Dogs this was an
17:22 article from the register but uh they're
17:26 not the only ones reporting on this tens
17:29 of thousands of Watchdogs Pirates enslaved by Bitcoin botmaster I think
17:35 that's a very sensationalist
17:39 headline but it doesn't change anything about the fact that pirating games is
17:45 just plain not a very good idea
17:48 sometimes so basically what was happening is your machine you would
17:52 install the game and run it and your machine would launch another executable
17:56 that would start to mine Bitcoins for
18:00 the right now it's not very clear whether it was the original cracker of
18:05 the game or whether it was someone who took a cracked release that they claim
18:08 they never did maybe you have some on the on the Watchdog video people were
18:12 saying that I was wrong because I said the the guy that cracked it put in the
18:16 thing but then other places where I've looked up are saying that the guy that
18:20 cracked it just faked skid R's names skro is a very popular well-known game
18:25 cracker um so I don't know what actually
18:28 happened but something happened and one that a lot of people downloaded had a
18:33 minor in it so so the great thing about this is particularly on lower-end
18:38 machines that was having a dramatic impact on the game's performance which
18:41 might be where some of the oh Watch Dog friends terribly stuff was coming from
18:46 although from what we've seen it really doesn't look better than something like
18:51 Far Cry 3 version also has a minor in it I don't I'm
18:56 kidding one thing that I thought was that's
19:00 interesting what a free game that
19:03 instead of being you can choose you can go okay I'll pay for or I'll mine for
19:07 you or I'll mine for you that's interesting anyway um moving
19:12 moving along one thing I want to bring up one of another one of the comments on the video I should have quoted this
19:16 somewhere but the guy was saying um it it's it's funny because the pirated
19:21 version didn't get a three-hour Mission which was defeating you play to be able to play the game yeah I know right that
19:26 was hilarious I don't he might have said it in some other way but yeah it's so
19:29 true trying to Benchmark it was really
19:32 difficult because logging into up play was such a challenge half the time we
19:36 would just be like you don't have an inter internet connection I'm like actually yeah I do would really like if
19:42 you just worked now and you have to sit there clicking try again for like
19:45 forever so the way that it worked is it would launch this minor and then once
19:49 you close down the game that would actually continue to run so whoever did
19:54 this is like pretty freaking oh yeah
19:58 happy right now yeah and then there's a bunch of pretty upset people about the
20:03 uh about well the fact that they just generated a bunch of Bitcoins for some
20:07 butthead you parted the game so I can't feel that bad one of the
20:12 conspiracy theories running around was that Ubisoft did
20:16 it I don't think they're that in need of money but that would be that would be
20:21 pretty funny leaking your own pirated game but just putting a like a Bitcoin
20:26 minor in it so it's like yeah you don't want to pay for the game
20:31 guess what dog that would actually be really funny or if it was like some guy
20:34 at Ubisoft that did it with that intention
20:39 fantastic all right let's move on to our oh we never got the straw pole results
20:44 did I get a link for that I posted in chat a billion times if we just um I
20:48 don't think I have the link so okay I I I'm afraid of what's going
20:54 to happen if we do this but if I just no no no no just go to chat go to chat okay
20:58 I'm going to chat I'm going to chat I got this i got this okay guys so let's
21:01 have a look at the straw poll results I don't remember what I asked ah yes
21:06 should they use Gameworks and
21:10 wow so the majority of you you made it a
21:13 multiv vote poll right y well I don't think too many people voted for more
21:17 than one result I think that adds up to about 100% but anyway the majority of
21:21 you are just saying yes you you and especially Indie devs you'd like to see
21:26 Indie devs be able to take advantage of this deliver a game I mean that runs on
21:31 AMD hardare is based on the amount of votes there so it doesn't matter yeah so
21:37 that might look better than if I don't
21:41 remember what I'm talking right that might look better than if they had to code all this stuff themselves as long
21:45 as it runs on AMD then you're still totally cool with them optimizing it
21:49 using NVIDIA's tools so I mean I think that's great because there's been a lot
21:53 of a lot of back and forth about this with some people declaring Gameworks to
21:57 be the worst thing and others you know kind of trumpeting the NVIDIA horn and I
22:02 don't think either is the right answer it's somewhere in between as it usually
22:07 is whenever Fanboys get involved in some kind of an argument yeah I don't know I
22:11 just I just don't like I when I when I was reading through all this kind of
22:14 stuff I was expecting the worst thing ever me too and then it was just really
22:19 not that bad I was I was expecting half of Watch Dogs to basically be running
22:24 off of like NVIDIA Grid at their
22:27 headquarters and Ubisoft didn't even know what was inside the black box but
22:32 it's not that at all wasn't it Bioshock where if you had an AMD card you
22:36 couldn't see certain effects in the game you could see the water coming out of a
22:39 pipe uh you're thinking of Borderlands 2 Borderlands 2 yeah sorry not like I was
22:43 expecting something more along those lines yeah and that is that is still
22:48 something that a bothers me and B I do
22:52 think is terrible for the industry like the way that physx is implemented and
22:57 will always be implemented as long as it's not something that AMD and NVIDIA
23:01 users can leverage equally is just not that compelling to me once we can use
23:06 physx technology across the board you could actually make a game that's
23:11 designed to use it and make that
23:14 destructibility of the environment and all those other things that you can do
23:19 through physx part of an integral part of gameplay I mean the the the last game
23:24 we got that really used physx was like cell Factor that was a physx showcase
23:31 piece yeah I'm still waiting for that
23:34 yeah and poopy not a very well-received game at
23:40 all I mean as much as it's great to walk around on the street and like kick cans
23:45 out of your way it doesn't feel like a compelling
23:49 gameplay element to me all right so the original poster online tech tips.com was
23:55 Ren for this one finally a super easy name to say yeah I know right I have so
23:59 much difficulty with that Ren please post more JP research team develops SSD
24:06 middleware that improves speed by 300% and the headlines don't seem to
24:11 necessarily all agree about exactly how this works but basically what they're
24:15 doing is instead of writing data to a on a new blank page data is written on a
24:20 fragmented page located in the block to be erased next so it's kind of
24:24 predictively because the way that ssds work is you can't just overwrite
24:29 something you have to blank it first which is actually the timec consuming
24:33 part of writing something but it gets more complicated than that you don't
24:37 just you can't just blank something and then WR over top of it because you might
24:42 need to rearrange some of the stuff that's written within that cell and put
24:46 it somewhere else but it gets more complicated than that because you don't
24:50 even if you were to rewrite all this stuff all over the place blank it and
24:53 then write to it you don't want to unnecessarily blank pages if you don't
24:57 have to because that significantly degrades the longevity of the SSD so the
25:03 way that they work is really complicated what this is going to do is it's going
25:06 to look for predictively which one is going to be blanked next and then try to
25:12 proactively make room for your right so it might not affect read speeds that
25:16 much but it will affect reads in the context of that you won't have to wait
25:21 around for rights and it should affect rate speeds dramatically and they're
25:24 also claiming that you could increase the product life up to I think they're
25:29 saying around 55% not to mention you lower uh power
25:33 consumption because you're not doing as much random shuffling around of
25:37 data but wait there's more it looks like this could be as
25:43 simple as a middleware layer that sits between the SSD and your operating
25:48 system and does all or between your driver or between the controller sits
25:53 sits in the middle it sits in the middle somewhere and you may not even need a
25:57 new SSD which is kind of awesome I I I don't see a ton of different
26:02 manufacturers implementing this for free yeah I'd imagine it's going to be more
26:06 like a now with Turbo Charge
26:11 Uber Wanger I don't know whatever I
26:14 don't Wanger could mean fast probably not no no I'm thinking wow
26:21 that car is totally Wanger oh God don't make that a thing um it it was in a
26:27 simulation so I'm not sure if we'll see exactly this much speed and power
26:31 Improvement all that kind of stuff in real life but it's exciting to see someone improving ssds in this way yeah
26:36 yeah I mean but SSD the thing about ssds
26:39 is look at how stagnant it's been in terms of flash speeds in terms of
26:45 interface speeds and in terms of capacities it's not really moving very
26:51 fast and everyone's kind of jumping on the who we need PCI Express and we need
26:56 s Express and well we needed it 2 years
26:59 ago did we flash is not getting faster
27:03 with each new generation flash is continuing to actually get slower and
27:08 less reliable because of the smaller manufacturing processes and it's not
27:11 like and we're not going to get a dramatic Improvement there until we get
27:15 a big shift in the way that flash is manufactured so people are saying Wanger
27:19 in chat raise your wangers okay guys
27:22 you've got two minutes of raising wangers all you want and then we need it
27:26 to go away or we're going to start giving people times at timeouts um but
27:31 basically we need more we need smarter software we need smarter controllers in
27:35 order to really get more out of our ssds I think a great example is plexor m6e
27:41 which is not straight up not faster than a SAT SSD in real world tests yes you
27:47 get better sequential reads and not necessarily even writes but we're
27:51 limited by other factors still so yeah I
27:55 don't know it'll be interesting to see what this does when it's actually in the hand of people instead of a simulation
27:59 yeah because a lot of the time I love it how we're always getting these like new
28:03 holographic disc enables 500 tabes per
28:06 disc and then it turns out it's impossible to manufacture there's some
28:10 other kind of showstopping and like you can you can put data on it but you can
28:13 never read from it it's like oh yeah like you have to like make it out of
28:17 like you know ubiquitum which contrary to the name is
28:22 not ubiquit I was just like so everyone has this one
28:28 uh that is a segue into Skype translator
28:31 because it's something that they're talking about which I really don't think is going to happen at least anytime soon
28:37 it's like way down in Rapid Fire I'll
28:40 find it I'll find it go ahead and keep there's not even really much I want to say about this they're they're trying to
28:44 do something called Skype translator which as far as I can tell is going to take what you say and translate it into
28:49 some form of TTS or text to speak and then say it out of the other person's
28:53 speakers or headphones or whatever so you can talk to people over Skype in
28:56 different languages and it's all translated this was posted by Rafi on
28:59 the Forum go but like the open API for
29:02 Microsoft translating stuff is terrible
29:06 and it's Microsoft so they'll probably work on it and then like it'll disappear
29:10 or something and there's way more important things in my opinion that they
29:14 need to fix with Skype so hopefully they do that instead of making this um I
29:19 don't know how many people are going to go for voice chat over Skype that don't
29:23 know how to speak a Common Language um
29:26 but it might be fun honestly when looking at this I see I see it more as
29:29 being fun than anything else and like maybe it'll
29:34 help people learn different languages or something like that I don't know I mean
29:39 I I see it being kind of uh Niche like something like this like I actually I
29:43 didn't know about this even though it's about a four-year-old app for iPhone at
29:47 this point but word lens allows you to look at something in real time through
29:51 your phone and have it actually translate on the Fly um and it's
29:54 actually like it's pretty darn cool we were playing around with it a little bit
29:58 bit today at NC but by and large most
30:03 people won't be using it I mean there's I I think that in the future we're going
30:07 to see language barriers broken down this way but I just I don't think this
30:12 is really it we're so far away that it's kind of it's not like Oculus where it's
30:17 like yeah we're like pumped about this cuz it's like happening soon it's like
30:21 yeah my phone can barely tell what I'm saying to it now with like Google Voice
30:28 yeah I don't think it's really going to work when it's like going through
30:32 different languages and then there's all the problems with converting language
30:36 into another language and then having it still make any sense at all yep that's a
30:40 huge issue especially when you bring in stuff like slang and other things which
30:44 leads us pretty well into Google starting to build their own self-driving
30:48 cars I wish I could say I called this I did say I thought we were going to get
30:52 an iar but Apple has instead gone you
30:55 it's it's funny you look at the reversal here where Apple used to be all about
30:59 building it themselves and Google used to be all about partnering whereas now
31:05 for phones I think that they have um
31:09 been bitten a little bit on the whole partnering thing they've created a
31:13 monster out of Samsung and kind of gone well hold on a second they would have
31:17 been nowhere without Android without us and you look at glass uh they I mean yes
31:23 they're releasing the the lightweight Android that's going to run on wearables
31:26 and they will have partners but it just they've done most of the branding around
31:31 it themselves with their own Hardware before they're even talking about you
31:35 know letting anyone else have access to any of this stuff you look at what they're doing with this car where
31:39 they're going to build their own self-driving car you look at Nexus
31:43 program or whatever it's called Silver now or whatever else it seem feels like
31:46 they're moving in the direction of controlling the user experience and
31:50 there is something to be said for that but then Apple on the other hand is
31:54 going okay yeah we're going to partner with Ford and Toyota and everyone to
31:57 integrate our technology into the existing products so this is it
32:02 guys yeah looks ridiculous but that's
32:05 not really the point it looks like a super unimpressed little like Teddy
32:11 Bear yeah it does kind of look like a face doesn't
32:15 it yeah and if you actually like a totally not happy face at all he's just
32:19 like nope I'm doing things you enslaved
32:23 me to drive around so I guess I can do that or whatever it is kind of slavery I
32:27 guess so basically so sad uh this was posted
32:32 on the Forum by joners and instead of
32:35 even having a steering wheel or pedals which is something I personally am
32:39 pretty uncomfortable with I'd like to have the option to manual override to
32:43 manual over right I mean this is like that um that Doctor Who episode where or
32:49 the ey robot thing yeah it's well like anything where you know
32:53 someone decides yeah we're going to drive you into the sea yeah and there's
32:57 nothing you can do about it I I would like to have a steering wheel and pedals
33:01 but no it will have a stop and go button
33:04 and that is pretty much it very interesting
33:10 self-driving um you know he can't he
33:13 can't be sad because the plastic doesn't go that far so maybe he is sad maybe
33:18 it's like even worse than we expect because he can't pull his the size of
33:22 his mouth down anymore so he's showing the least amount of Happiness as he can
33:27 and Google is forcing that little car to be a minimum amount of happy would you
33:31 miss
33:35 driving gross
33:38 probably a little bit not really though
33:41 because if I could do other stuff while I was in the car be a lot more productive a lot of people won't be able
33:46 to anyway just because of motion sickness yeah I would probably actually
33:50 have a problem with that like I don't I I I used to get motion sick pretty
33:55 hardcore but I just like I think buil up a tolerance to it or something mine
34:00 seems to flip-flop like one day it'll be a problem and I can't read my phone and
34:04 then the other day it's totally fine and like it seems to depend on what car I'm
34:08 in and who's driving and like there's tons of different variables so I have no
34:12 idea it's funny how it's designed to make it seem non-threatening and help
34:16 people accept self-driving technology but I just think it looks kind of
34:19 ridiculous it does and like saying that that quote right there is like wow I'm
34:24 now scared
34:28 apparently earlier ones will have extra controls so test drivers can take over
34:32 if there's a problem that sounds like the one that i' would be interested in having yeah so it'll it will be an
34:37 electric vehicle it'll have a combination of lasers and radar to drive
34:41 I mean I personally am really excited for self-driving technology I just am
34:46 not 100% sure how I feel about Google doing it at this point with how
34:51 broke Google Maps has been for me lately I it's just every little thing and you
34:57 know what I'm going to get feedback from people where they go it's great it's amazing it works for me perfectly every
35:01 time and I'm like yeah that's fine but that doesn't change the fact that my
35:04 experience hasn't been that positive lately and all the feedback about how
35:08 take me home doesn't work and everyone's like yeah it does I demoed on the show
35:12 last week you know what it straight up doesn't work for me sorry it it doesn't
35:17 work for it's not consistent enough and we're talking about my life right and
35:21 this is like uh people publicly complain about both of these things but there's
35:25 far more people publicly complaining about Google maps and I've been having
35:29 tons of troubles with it lately I mean you were trying to find a Tim Hortons it
35:32 shouldn't be hard to find a Tim Hortons in Canada and there were two that my mom
35:37 was able to give us directions to that Google Maps was not giving him the
35:41 nearest locations for and was telling him to go what like 20 minutes away or
35:45 something it pretty far away and there was one like down the street walking
35:48 distance from where I had parked so I'm I'm sitting here going what are you guys
35:52 doing we're talk finding the nearest branch of a chain of restaurants super
35:58 popular in Canada chain of restaurants is functionality that worked two years
36:02 ago and this one was in a mall and had been there for a very long time and it
36:06 didn't know it was and there was another one down the road that wasn't in a mall
36:09 in case being in the mall was the problem this is technology that worked
36:13 really well back when I first started using Google Maps and I'm having a lot
36:16 of trouble with it lately yeah so I don't know I'm still planning to have
36:20 you switch to the iPhone for a little while just to try it out try Apple Maps
36:25 cuz I was pretty impressed as long as it doesn't drive me into a lake like it
36:28 used to then it'll probably be fine we
36:32 can't forget about that speaking of Apple um Apple has confirmed the
36:37 acquisition of Beats so uh that whole
36:41 video that leaked where Dr Dre was boasting about the world's first I I
36:46 think who who was it I think it was someone else actually pointing at him in
36:50 sort of boasting for but the point was the world's first rap billionaire um you
36:55 know what good for him is all I really have to say
37:00 it is it is inexplicable to me that
37:05 beats headphones were ever a thing um
37:09 but it was reading The Verge article here uh this was posted originally on
37:13 the Forum the best efforts of like every Tech Enthusiast ever Alex Goes High uh
37:18 this this was I think it was 30% or
37:21 something like that I can't I can't find the number but based on some market
37:27 research I think it was something like 30% of headphone buyers above $100
37:33 wanted an endorsement on it and I'm kind
37:37 of sitting here going like I
37:41 weep for all of
37:44 this like I just don't know what to say
37:48 anymore there was uh wait they wanted an endorsement they yeah they they wanted
37:52 to see an an endorsement before they would be willing to spend big money on a
37:57 pair of head phones so from from a previous Verge
38:01 article allegedly a pair of $200 Beats headphones was somewhere in the
38:05 neighborhood of $14 to produce I'm not sure if I quite believe that because
38:09 that might be a bomb cost but bomb costs do not represent the amount of product
38:15 development that goes into building something it doesn't account for R&D it
38:18 doesn't account for you know plastic molding it doesn't account for any other
38:22 prototyping processes it doesn't account for marketing where admittedly a big
38:28 part of the Beats experience is the marketing and celebrity
38:32 endorsements um probably the biggest that is probably the biggest part of it
38:36 but the point is that even R&D it just
38:40 straight up doesn't account for all of that
38:45 um but they're also they're also buying other things while they're buying this
38:51 company like they're not just buying like beats release Beats headphones
38:55 there's more to it than the headphones I mean I I think that the fact that the
38:59 brands are so similar and that they're able to achieve better than industry
39:04 margins on their products I think that's a key part of the acquisition Al
39:08 although one other thing that I'd like to see if it happens is Apple's been
39:12 willing to take less than beats margin on their products for the sake of
39:17 building a truly high quality premium product and I would like to see if
39:23 Apple's willing to spend $44 instead of
39:26 $14 or even $80 on a pair of Beats
39:30 headphones that they're willing to sell for 200 or 250 I would like to see what
39:34 they can bring to that because guys and
39:37 don't kid yourselves the companies that you love you know the sennheisers and
39:42 akg's and audio technical of the world they're making pretty good margin on
39:46 headphones too so it's not like beats is
39:49 is doing something it doesn't cost $1,500 to make a pair of hd800s yeah to
39:54 to be 100% clear if you think it costs that much you're dumb yeah I'm sorry but
40:00 you're actually stupid no way it doesn't cost that much but again there's the R&D
40:04 so I would like to see if Apple could tone down the whole celebrity
40:08 endorsement thing something they haven't done much with um with I much of
40:12 anything since like the Bono days um so
40:16 if they could tone that down a little bit spend a little bit more on the actual materials in R&D I'd be
40:19 interested to see what they can come up with but they're acquiring more than that they're also getting their uh
40:24 beats's streaming service which is um something that Apple hasn't been able to
40:29 or willing to build for themselves and is becoming much more popular with
40:33 services like Spotify taking the place of the more traditional it's funny to be
40:37 calling dollar MP3 downloads from iTunes
40:40 traditional it feels like not that long ago the iPod Revolution was happening
40:45 right yeah yeah yeah one thing that's been really frustrating lately is like
40:51 uh one one group that I've been listening to a lot is uh man what is it
40:56 Juke B oh man now I'm not going to be able to remember what it's called but it's it's this group on YouTube that
41:00 makes music the only way to possibly buy their stuff is through
41:04 iTunes like I don't want to install that terrible piece of crap right it's not
41:09 monster cat is it no yeah okay yeah I'm not sure I can't remember the name of it
41:14 someone wants Linus Tech Audio headphones yeah I don't think so I'll be
41:19 the first to I'll be the first to admit that I don't uh I don't know enough
41:23 about headphones to make headphones so there you you have it it
41:28 happened I I'm super super interested to
41:31 see what happens this is Apple's biggest acquisition to date and let's move on
41:36 then shall we true Crypt has been
41:40 compromised or maybe hasn't been compromise hasn't been compromised it's
41:44 it's an interesting setup if you go to the link at the bottom of the true Crypt
41:48 article in the dock yeah so posted by ion Bassa on the Forum here uh that's a
41:54 comment I think yeah that's that was a comment on the thread oh sorry sorry um
42:00 well I think I closed it now posted by Astro zombie sorry about that now if you
42:04 go to the bottom link true cry. CH this
42:07 is a new movement that has come up since the whole true Crypt thing happened and
42:12 this website not only tracks um what's going on with true
42:16 Crypt right now it's the like safe thing
42:20 which who knows if that's actually true or not but someone's saying that it's currently safe at this point in time um
42:25 but that the source code is just being is just sitting there so how long it'll
42:29 be safe for we don't know or if it is even actually safe right now we don't
42:34 know um these guys are planning on trying to pick up the project it's not a
42:40 um what do they call it it's not like a branch or anything like that they're taking part of the license agreement of
42:44 true Crypt which allows people to kind of mess with their um source code and
42:48 they're going to be making their own so anyone who had true Crypt anyone who's
42:52 using true Crypt uh we probably not screwed luckily
42:57 this group has come together and hopefully good things will come from this there they have a Blog coming soon
43:01 they have a forum coming soon and any information that you need about true
43:05 Crypt will probably be at true.
43:09 CH okay so who the heck knows what's
43:13 really going on right now maybe a little bit of what was going on um it it seems
43:17 like with the close of Windows XP and most things being built into operating
43:21 systems the true cryp project has been kind of abandoned um true Crypt wasn't
43:27 it was It was kind of taken for granted for a really long time the fact that it
43:32 even existed um and it's been kept up to
43:35 date by just this fairly small group of people for a very long time and they're
43:40 just kind of done that's about it they're just yeah
43:44 no it's been like 10 years or something I don't remember exactly how long it's
43:48 been but they're done with it now there's uh Windows 8.1 is blocking it
43:52 with their smart screen feature it's it's where is it I think it's detecting
43:56 it say malware yeah because it's it might be right now the latest version
44:02 but then maybe it isn't we don't know yeah I yeah I one thing is I wouldn't go
44:07 to True cry's actual website to download it I would probably go to True cry. CH
44:12 as far as I've seen a lot of people talking right now true cry. CH seems to
44:15 be legit um and the true cp.org website
44:20 is a lot of people have been speculating it might have been broken into and things might have been injected and
44:24 there might be problems going on I don't know as like seriously as far as
44:29 I can tell there's new news coming out about this like every hour I check up on
44:33 it and we've been on the a we've been on the show for a little while now so maybe
44:36 something even changed um but yeah if you're very interested in true Crypt I
44:40 would check out true cry. CH and keep paying attention there hopefully they
44:43 get their forms and their blog going soon so that people can have a hub to
44:48 talk about it on and that should be
44:51 good and that should be good I hope so
44:55 this is the conclusion I I really like true and I use it a lot so I really hope
44:59 that someone properly picks up this project and keeps it
45:03 going and that all the like oh my God the NSA was running it and all this
45:07 other crap stuff doesn't end up being true I don't know it probably is uh
45:13 whatever what I'm hiding is really not that important so it's
45:17 fine oh well I guess you can have my
45:21 online banking information which you probably have anyways jerks I know right
45:27 it's like the most disappointing thing ever Everything feels futile at this
45:30 point but it isn't it's still worth it to keep trying to uh to keep trying to
45:34 protect your rights and all that noise y speaking of protecting your rights this
45:39 was originally posted on the Forum by gamer
45:43 dad all right oh God
45:46 Nintendo has a plan for for Let's Plays
45:51 and I like if you guys remember that whole big Fiasco that was going on where
45:56 oops uh there we go where Nintendo was
45:59 pulling the monetization from anyone that was uploading their content so
46:03 that's audio or video from their games in fact we had it happen back when we
46:08 were playing Super Mario World on the Afterparty and our monetization got
46:13 pulled on that video so they just started pulling monetization back to
46:17 themselves CU I don't know if you guys know how this works but there's a few
46:20 different things that can happen if you're infringing content so for example
46:25 um my default okay so number one is if you have no infringing content in your
46:29 video then you dispute whatever claim
46:33 and then Google gives it back to you usually 3 days to 14 days later from my
46:38 experience if you legitimately have infringing content in your video there's
46:42 a couple of things that the owner can do so I my default Channel upload setting
46:48 is monetization but then I uploaded my wedding video to my lonus cat tips
46:52 Channel which had a song in it didn't even think about it so the owner of that
46:58 song went and they have two options they can either pull down my video or they
47:02 can monetize against my video so that every view instead of monetizing for me
47:07 monetizes for them and that's what they opted to do so the video is still up
47:10 there and so that's what Nintendo opted to do is they just pulled the
47:14 monetization from these videos to themselves and I kind of look at that
47:17 and I go like okay yes I I understand
47:21 you have the right to do that it's sort of it's just dumb it's not very it's not
47:25 very black and white whether or not they can things like they whether or not it's
47:30 a derivative work or whether or not it's who who it actually belongs to is really
47:35 not that clear right now legally but YouTube's allowing it and Nintendo's
47:40 doing it and even if they do have the right it's still kind of a dick move
47:44 yeah um but anyway that whole thing happened so now their brilliant um plan
47:52 is to develop an affiliate program to share the revenue you that they've
47:58 scooped between itself YouTube and the content creator I don't like how do you
48:04 not understand Nintendo's biggest problem right now is that everyone's just ignoring them because it's hard to
48:08 remember that they exist at this point in time and then they're trying to make
48:13 it really difficult for people to bring them into the spotlight like what what
48:17 are you what are you possibly thinking like if any and the kinds of games that
48:23 Nintendo focuses on things like party games or
48:27 Platformers or it's not going to ruin the experience by watching someone play
48:30 it like I'm not going to not want to play Super Smash Brothers because I had
48:34 the entire experience from watching someone else play it that's stupid like
48:38 especially something like Mario party what you're actually watching that for is like the experience of those people
48:43 playing so if it's a game that's heavily
48:46 story driven and something where I really think that gamers are going to
48:52 watch a let's play instead of buying the game I get it I understand the
48:57 developers perspective here it's really not fair something like walking dead or
49:01 something like Wolf Among Us where it's or brothers tale of two sons basically
49:06 just a story it's a movie in the form of a game an interactive game story movie
49:10 whatever you get my point I get it but something like Nintendo's games really
49:15 if anything I agree with the let's players and I agree with the YouTubers
49:19 who are saying look we're driving exposure for your game you should be
49:23 paying us to play your game and broadcast it to our thousands of
49:28 fans so it's just so backwards details
49:31 will be announced in the future but I'm really disappo I want to like Nintendo I
49:36 really do I was like a Nintendo kid
49:39 growing up so many people were I was you're just you're disappointing me
49:44 Nintendo is the revenue really so much that it's going to affect your your
49:48 millions of dollars deficit I don't think so I think you have other things
49:51 to focus on it's just it seems so mind like it
49:57 seems like they just have no idea what's going on so does this all right this
50:02 this Miss and thrope and I have a bit of an off andon sort of good or bad
50:06 relationship we're a little up and down because sometimes he can be a bit of a
50:10 butthead and other times his butt headedness uh really hits the nail on
50:15 the head and I think this post is actually pretty good uh it starts with
50:19 and it's okay would love for news posts
50:23 to be written in a neutral voice I hope he changes his title to resident
50:27 Butthead resident butthead I hope so too um just because you call them that I
50:31 think that would be hilarious so the the first line in his in his article in in
50:37 is his write up about it is a developer's defense of 30 frames per
50:41 second aka the resolution is just a number argument on crack
50:47 and so 60f this is this is from who is
50:51 this what Dev is this from again I can't remember right now they make 1866 I
50:55 believe it is remember the actual name of the de I'll find that so here it goes
50:59 60fps is really responsive and really cool I enjoy playing games at
51:04 60fps uh but one thing that really changes is the aesthetic of the game in
51:09 60fps we're going for this filmic look so one thing that we knew immediately
51:14 was films run at 24 FPS we're going to run at 30 because 24 FPS does not feel
51:19 good to play so there's one concession in terms of making it aesthetically
51:22 pleasing but it just has to feel good to play and I'm kind of sitting here going
51:26 okay so you both understand the issue
51:30 and entirely missed the point at the same time because you understood that 24
51:35 FPS might be good for film and isn't good for games but you didn't understand
51:39 that 30 FPS might look film Mick in a video but
51:45 it still isn't good for games it's still
51:48 not responsive we actually have a fastest Possible episode about refresh
51:53 rates and how 30
51:57 and thereby 30 FPS is just plain not
52:01 enough information for your eyes per second um coming out tonight that is
52:07 sort of along these lines but basically
52:11 here's the issue 24 FPS looks good in a
52:14 movie because of the way a camera works
52:17 and I don't even always agree with that and I don't even always agree either
52:20 fast motion in 24 frames per second looks very visually disorienting to me
52:26 you can see it chop I I don't I think the last one that I saw was it's not
52:30 Defiance is it Defiance I don't remember it's it's basically a different version
52:33 of The Hunger Games which is a different version of some other thing whatever I don't care um they go past this fence
52:40 yeah and there's a lot of tall poles on the fence and as it swings past it's
52:43 just like slice slice slice you can see the frames chopping it's so brutal looks
52:48 redonkulous so but the reason it works
52:52 is because the way that a camera whether it's film or whether it's a digital
52:55 sensor captures is by exposing it for a certain amount
52:59 of time that's the shutter speed is how long it's being exposed for so what
53:04 happens is if something's moving during
53:07 that exposure period you get blur you get natural blur that's why a movie
53:12 looks so much better while you while you watch it than it does if you grab a
53:16 screen grab of it and it looks blurry and poopy because your brain is what's
53:21 actually doing the work whereas in a
53:24 game you don't have motion blur naturally motion blur is not a natural
53:28 side effect of of rendering a frame in
53:32 motion you render frame by frame and
53:35 motion blur that gets added to games is terrible because the only way to add
53:40 motion blur is to either try to anticipate what's going to happen next
53:45 or buffer two frames buffer an extra frame so that you can intentionally blur
53:51 the difference between them that's how motion blur Works in games it's a Cheesy
53:55 effect and it will never be correct
53:58 it'll never be good and it'll always add leg maybe don't quote me on that maybe
54:02 they'll find some Genius Like by the time we're hooked up to like our Oculus
54:06 Rifts and like our brain probe things it may actually know what you're going to
54:10 do next and put motion blur in for you but by that time we'll have displays
54:13 that run at 600 HZ and games that run at 600 frames per second anyway so it
54:17 doesn't really matter we don't need motion bluring games and 30fps is not
54:22 good enough and you can't compensate with Mo with motion blur to make it look
54:25 more C itic do it in your cut scene don't do it in the game and as Gamers we
54:32 have to all demand better we have to ask for better and I know the hardware for
54:36 the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 just straight up isn't good enough to run
54:40 with modern lighting effects and all this other
54:44 stuff so I
54:48 guess PC I can't I can't find where this
54:52 is but um total here 30 FPS is not a Divine choice not design Choice design
54:57 Choice sorry um it is a last resort when dealing with inferior hardware and he
55:02 has a whole bunch of other quotes too and my favorite thing in this whole article actually was the very end where
55:09 is it so it's actually a kataku article originally I'll just go ahead and yeah
55:13 it's it's bullet pointed actually if you scroll down but what he says is a higher
55:16 frame rate does not significantly affect sales of a game a higher frame rate does
55:20 not significantly affect the reviews of a game right there bullet pointed and
55:24 like bolded on certain things and like that's a serious part of the article and
55:29 total biscuit just tore them apart on
55:32 like this exact thing I can't find the exact tweets that he has about it but
55:36 somewhere else but just like yeah actually it does sorry but you're
55:41 totally wrong and if it doesn't it should and but like one of the most
55:45 outspoken people in terms of game reviews total biscuit which is awesome
55:50 um constantly rips on games that are frame rate capped he's one of the
55:54 biggest game reviewers there are are you that
55:58 blind doesn't affect game reviews you're
56:01 wrong 100% like just no oh man if you
56:06 were them what Would You Do What could you say you can't say the Xbox One and
56:11 the PlayStation 4 or crappy and and I would rather they code
56:18 their game with better effects that we can enjoy on our PCS and let the console
56:23 guys run at 30 frames per second rather than just dumbing down the way that the
56:27 game runs outright so I still I still
56:31 would rather they make 30 FPS games as long as I don't have to play them so if
56:36 you're them what can you say then you have no choice but to do exactly what
56:40 they're doing no they just built it in terribly just have it so that it looks
56:44 better on PC and is able to run faster and have a down version for
56:48 console if they do that then it looks like they're intentionally crippling the
56:52 console version you have to I mean I think okay really there is a solution
56:55 here and I'm just kind of being a jerk right now give a give them a graphic
56:59 slider on the
57:03 console uh or not yeah or a 30 60
57:09 toggle why not I could see that yeah I
57:13 see a lot of people taking advantage of that if the game can run on PS3 and PS4
57:16 then it can sure as hell run at 60 FPS on PS4 I'm like just yeah 30 uh 3060
57:22 toggle that just does everything for you yeah why not just like turns down
57:26 resolution a whole bunch turns down any effects a whole bunch but gives you a
57:29 smoother gameplay experience some people will prefer that and that's how you get like everybody on your side yep and
57:35 because they're going to be like yeah it's a beautiful game unless you don't want it to be and then it runs at 60
57:39 FPS all right so something that actually
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58:17 you know what I don't know what to do right now how
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58:27 going to throw the G actually it'll be kind of nice to talk about the g750 j-z
58:32 without you distracting me for a change so guys the ASUS g750 JZ is
58:38 ASUS's okay it's not light okay it's not
58:42 particularly small but what it is is it is a powerful desktop replacement grade
58:47 gaming notebook that we actually are starting to like more and more as time
58:51 goes on uh the video we did yesterday where we pitted GTX 88 0 m versus dual
58:58 860m in SLI both with basically the same
59:01 CPU both with the same 4 gig frame buffer was uh those tests were very
59:06 revealing and we found that if you are willing to accept the thicker notebook
59:11 that comes along with being able with needing to be able to cool a really high
59:16 performance single GPU because you've got that heat density to contend with
59:20 you're able to get a more consistently high performance gaming experience than
59:24 if you were to rely on something like SLI which is something that I've always
59:28 really advocated for a single high-end GPU versus two lower-end ones the
59:33 drawback of course is that it does come in heavier and it does come in larger
59:38 but is that is that why this is the Jay-Z laptop and then the maybe the
59:41 other On's two chains because he has two graphics cards boom stepped in anyways
59:45 I'm going to keep working oh I'm so tired of you um and then there are other
59:49 advantages with the thicker form factor as well we found that this notebook ran
59:52 about 15° cooler underload on the GPU
59:55 which which is significant and ran significantly quieter in addition to
59:59 being cooler with the fan noise being more a more desirable low hum versus a
60:03 high pitched wine so there you go guys the g750 JZ is powerful enough for video
60:08 editing and content creation has a desktop grade and and ASUS doesn't call
60:12 it that but I'm just going to call it that because it truly is desktop grade
60:16 graphics card in it and all right what
60:19 else we got here oh that is faster geek staks 2014
60:26 modus is giving away a butt ton like one
60:29 metric butt ton of really cool stuff including an Oculus Rift uh a a gaming
60:34 notebook they're giving away they gave away a gaming mouse already they're
60:38 giving away a lro camera they're giving away all kinds of freaking awesome stuff
60:43 and all you have to do is head over to their Facebook page so that's
60:47 facebook.com/ modus and you will be entered for a chance to win it's open to
60:51 us and Canadian residents and if you're wondering who the heck modus is they are
60:55 an IT staffing company which is something that before they reached out
60:59 to us about participating in geek Stakes to celebrate Geek Pride day I was like
61:04 what's that we're like oh well it's actually pretty simple for free people
61:08 can submit their resumés to us and then we will work with them and with
61:13 companies large and small everything from startups to Fortune 500 companies
61:17 to try to place people and the way they make their money is they have the
61:21 companies that hire their candidates pay them so ultimately there is no drawback
61:27 to an IT professional reaching out to modus and seeing what's out there which
61:31 is great if you don't have a job that is not a point in time that you want to be
61:34 spending money to try and get a job yeah exactly right I'm going to get the paid
61:39 LinkedIn because that one will be better and it is a lot better yeah but still
61:45 LinkedIn is really good at like making you pay for it to be useful at all
61:49 bugging you I know I never had a LinkedIn account I got one recently I'm
61:52 just like wow I don't want any more emails from you a lot of em it's just
61:58 like leave me alone I don't care I just
62:02 wanted to update my profile because it
62:05 seems smarter than like writing a resume
62:08 at this point in time I'm moving into the 21st century it's like well um would
62:13 you like a free trial of Premium so that three people looked at your page this
62:16 guy sent you a message check your check your thing please you just got endorsed
62:19 for these skills like go away endorse
62:23 people please I'm not actually looking for a job right now this is a core part
62:26 of our system I don't care about you LinkedIn there should be like a please
62:31 go away button like please I'll let you know when I'm like interested in this
62:35 again please there should be a auto endorse all of my friends just do it I
62:39 care LinkedIn should totally have a paid option so that I can monitor the
62:44 activity of my employees not like read their messages
62:48 but when my employees start like like I should be able to see their activity
62:52 level on LinkedIn so if I see unusual
62:55 spikes like blah blah blah updated the profile sent a bunch of messages I'll be
63:00 like something's coming I feel like that
63:03 would be taken advantage of immediately like
63:07 people would use it immediately and it would be terrible and torn apart very
63:12 quickly I guarantee you so many like owners would take advantage of it though
63:17 hold on a second though because there's a lot of LinkedIn stuff that is public
63:22 like activity on it so if yeah maybe not PMS but if I could just get a
63:27 report of activity I bet you this could be done with a third party probably
63:32 could because it's the kind of thing that I could comb through and find myself but if I just had it
63:36 automatically generated for me that's very interesting so business idea for
63:39 someone give us 10% like normal yeah but make this and then sell your Bot to
63:45 people and you can just have the bot crawl everything all the time so people
63:48 can get instant reports when they sign up yes and that's what people will want
63:52 cuz they'll want to be able to see results immediately so you just have it permanently CW all of LinkedIn and then
63:58 wow that's like the evilest thing ever cuz you know what's funny is i' I don't
64:01 remember when it was but I think um edel
64:04 created a LinkedIn profile like right around the time we formed lus Media
64:08 Group or updated it or something or like
64:11 it it creeped me out that everyone who works here has updated LinkedIn profiles
64:17 because I didn't have one until I started thinking about leaving
64:22 NC and so like I I project right like I
64:25 project my own mindset where I'm completely not interested in any kind of
64:30 social network platform even a useful one like LinkedIn unless I have an
64:33 immediate need I didn't have one until a couple months ago and like I knew I was
64:37 going to get that email from you when I sent you an invite on it but the only
64:41 reason why I got one was cuz I wanted somewhere to put my corsera course
64:46 whatever like certificate things right that's the only place you can display
64:49 them there's nothing wrong with having updated credentials on LinkedIn it's
64:52 good and like you know I want people who work here to build their portfolios and
64:57 like build their careers and stuff like that like I'm it's just one of those things where I just kind of like are you
65:01 are you leaving I just lay I lay in bed at night are they all going to where are
65:06 they going please don't leave me why is this happening uh speaking of why is
65:11 this happening you know my take on the steam controller was pretty mixed at the
65:16 beginning I was like really they're doing this touchpads okay let's see how
65:21 this goes and then my take on it when I tried it back at CES even though it was
65:26 quite an early prototype was okay well
65:29 let's see where they go from here valve
65:32 has basically delayed it they're saying realistically we're looking at a release
65:36 window in 2015 and that's pretty much all that they've said this was posted by
65:40 Rafi on the Forum wow two this week and I don't think I've ever seen you before
65:44 and I like you because you have an easy to pronounce name but basically my take
65:49 on this I don't CU he makes me feel like my form's broken with his stupid Avatar
65:53 picture oh yeah well
65:59 all right my take on this is what
66:02 probably happened was the original concept of touchpads is stupid and then
66:07 you saw what was happening with the prototypes over time how they got closer
66:11 and closer and closer to a traditional
66:15 controller upon which time I think people basically went oh yeah that's
66:19 pretty cool but the issue is that it's not really different so I think valve is
66:24 going through a bit of an identity CR right now with the steam controller
66:27 where they're going okay we wanted to do something like really Innovative that
66:30 changed the way people use controllers
66:33 and then we ended up with something that's pretty syy and we're not getting
66:37 into this because we just wanted to be a like controller manufacturer yeah valve
66:43 doesn't do stuff like that they're not getting into Steam OS because they want
66:47 to make Steam Machines they want to build an ecosystem valve is so much
66:50 smarter than wanting to make gaming peripherals so I I think what's happened
66:56 is they just don't know what it is anymore and if in I think they're just
67:00 saying 2015 but it's like valve time so I think I think they're basically going
67:05 okay if we can rejuvenate this project
67:08 and make it truly different then we'll then you know let's do that and if we
67:13 can't I think we might see Steam controller just quietly go away which
67:17 I'll be 100% okay with because up till now I I don't think there's a lot of
67:21 room to really improve on the controller you see third party I mean
67:26 everyone and their dog has had the opportunity to improve the Xbox 360
67:31 controller and we see like exoskeletons
67:34 that go on it we've seen like you know
67:38 rockers so that you just shift your hand to press certain buttons we've seen all
67:42 kinds of stuff we've seen modded ones that have the the switches replaced and
67:47 and the the analog sticks replaced or joysticks I think they call them now
67:52 whatever I don't care if they're not if they're not analog anymore um
67:56 and no one's really been able to do it and and now 360 controller is freaking
68:01 awesome and now we're down to the point where 3D printers are becoming more
68:04 affordable so even some individual could
68:07 create a better controller if they wanted to I just don't think there's any
68:11 room left to innovate and maybe I'm totally wrong but I think we're going to
68:15 see completely different ways of interacting with our games like
68:18 augmented reality and VR before we see a better controller I think the controller
68:23 is kind of an amusing amusing ancient way of controlling games
68:28 by the time my son is my age like like the old joystick two button style that's
68:34 just gone uh well it Mak it makes an
68:38 interesting um point because Nintendo we
68:41 we all saw that patent for like what what was it uh modular DS did you see
68:47 that patent no I didn't it was it was a DS but you could slide out all of the
68:52 parts that interact with the DS and replace them hm so people would
68:56 essentially be able to like make their own d-pad oh no I did see that the Nintendo
69:00 patent right yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember that right so that's it's
69:03 interesting because controllers are getting like there's there's so many
69:07 gamers now I think that's part of the thing is there's so many gamers that
69:12 cross such a huge age Gap from everywhere around the world that it's
69:16 hard to make something for every single person in existence right so I think
69:20 it's getting to the point where it's just like yeah make your own or buy
69:23 these modular things and swap them out
69:26 all right so um I Barnacles was
69:29 defending his use of Bing on Twitter this week so I I actually I'm using
69:35 Internet Explorer right now because I haven't bothered to sign into all my crap in a real browser so um it's true
69:42 Bing is the default so I search for Leap Motion V2 all right so I get like a
69:46 bunch of rubbish sponsored lot of them
69:50 that has like almost the whole page worth nothing to do with anything and
69:54 arguably my font size is a little bit large like that's probably more like a
69:58 normal font size but that is four sponsored results that aren't even
70:03 related to the leap motion and then the
70:06 first legitimate hit is from the developer
70:10 blog but isn't the leap motion V2 blog
70:15 post and finally it comes up with this
70:20 Google Boom top one exactly what I'm
70:24 looking for for and I just this just felt related to
70:31 um there we go so this is really cool
70:34 this just felt kind of related to the new ways that we're going to interact
70:37 with our devices and what's amazing about this is this is using the original
70:41 Leap Motion Hardware they actually haven't changed the hardware this is
70:45 just a new much lower latency much more accurate software Isn't that cool it's
70:51 so fast look at that responsiveness like it's crazy fast
70:57 love it so you know what's funny is they offered to send us a review sample like
71:01 a year month ago no no I contacted them a year ago and then like months and
71:06 months ago they were like yeah we'll send you a review sample and I was like well you know a lot of the hype has died
71:10 down um do you have anything new coming that maybe we'll wait for instead
71:14 they're like yeah we have a software update coming I'm assuming this is it
71:17 and so I saw this I reached out to them they're like yeah we're out of review samples again I'm just like guys like
71:23 seriously we can help you we just need you to help
71:28 yourself like I just don't even know what to say at that
71:31 point they're like yeah we can offer you a small discount and I'm just
71:37 like really so you have a review sample
71:40 for me when you don't have anything interesting and then you I'm like yeah I
71:44 want to do you a favor I want to time this to like talk about something new
71:48 and exciting and it's like oh yeah sorry
71:51 next time that they offer you one just take it and then just wait until the
71:54 next interesting thing comes out yeah just be like you probably would have
71:59 just waited if we did something for you anyways so don't worry about it we'll
72:03 get this video to you in about a couple months when you would have contacted us all right so this is two things number
72:07 one is dog fighting is
72:12 delayed yeah Star Citizen you're disappointing us but
72:16 there's still time for you to knock our socks off it's disappointing but I'm happy they didn't release it completely
72:21 broken as well yeah I get that I totally get it I would rather have delays
72:25 basically Chris Roberts wrote like this huge long thing was like yeah look we
72:30 want this out there as much as you do and I believe them mhm but there's two
72:36 of what we would classify as I think they call them blocker bugs like just
72:41 utterly gamebreaking bugs that we need to resolve there's some other critical
72:45 stuff that we really really want to fix and then there's some other stuff that we want to fix but until we can get
72:50 those really high priority fixes in there it's not coming sorry we missed
72:54 the date it's coming really soon the fact that they waited until the last
72:58 possible minute to tell us that it wasn't going to hit the date to me is
73:01 you can interpret this one of two ways and I lean towards the second one so you
73:05 can kind of go dick move guys you're telling us at the last minute we were
73:09 all excited or number two could be it's probably because they might have thought
73:13 they could still make it yeah so maybe it's that close so I really hope it
73:17 comes soon really excited guys don't forget to join the lonus tech tips
73:21 conglomerate Star Citizen organization we're falling
73:25 behind past us what the heck happened
73:28 yeah some random organization Imperium doesn't last time you talked to them
73:32 that was like a two days ago but no one knew who these guys were they know who
73:37 they are they won the they won like a contest a while back and all this kind
73:40 of stuff but they were really small and then out of nowhere they got like 5,000
73:44 something members in no time at all expl
73:48 so no you guys need to Rally with us
73:52 5,726 uh let's see they have time stamps for Stuff which is really interesting
73:57 so still updating we doubled in size
74:00 again 300 new members that's on April 16th on May 2nd they got 732 members in
74:07 total on May 25th they got 1,49 members
74:11 in total May 25th to May 28th they got
74:15 4,000 plus members in total what even
74:19 happened where did all these people come from so good for them good for them but
74:25 minus Tech tips conglomerate still going to be I mean really all of this is just
74:29 jockeying for position that is ultimately going to be meaningless once
74:33 the race actually starts yeah it's kind of like you look at any what Nascar race
74:38 formula race does being in front at the beginning of the race mean that you win
74:43 no there's a whole lot more yeah and
74:46 having a huge amount of members isn't necessarily going to make you win either that's true quality members I'm not
74:51 worried about that the main thing is I'm just confused I don't know what the heck
74:54 happened Reddit getting really big and passing us that's kind of that's not
74:58 surprising test Squadron getting really big that's fine uh maybe they'll do just
75:02 as well in in Star season as they did in Eve and just disappear so that's also
75:07 possible all right so NVIDIA shifts away from smartphones this is posted by Cy
75:11 Warrior basically Jensen came out and said okay well we're shifting away from
75:16 smartphones to other more profitable markets NVIDIA chipsets save for Tiger 3
75:20 have had limited success in the world of smartphones tiger 4 barely made it into
75:24 a few devices and tgra 4i hasn't had much luck as far as design wins go
75:29 either but NVIDIA is definitely interested in other markets such as
75:33 gaming devices like shield for example which is fantastic and doesn't get
75:38 enough credit um cars for example I'd love to see teger hardware and something
75:43 like a TV a couple of generations from now when that is going to be what a
75:48 console looks like a grid streaming device that just runs in your TV and you
75:52 don't need to worry about an extra box Bring It On yeah excited for that kind
75:57 of stuff I mean as internet connections get better I mean the the connection we
76:01 have here and the connection you have at home I think is like you get what like
76:05 five millisecond pings in games and people are like yeah he's like playing
76:10 at valve yeah or whatever like like how do you have how do you have like land
76:14 level ping I'm like oh I'm just chilling at valve HQ guys it is coming low enough
76:19 latency is coming so I'm really really excited about where we're heading there
76:22 and I I really don't see this as something that will have a major
76:27 impact on NVIDIA's Tegra development cycle it's just I think it's just them
76:32 kind of basically going yeah that whole thing is stupid so we give up and with
76:36 the way margins are being squeezed on phones the only way to make a profit on
76:39 a phone is to be very vertically integrated like someone like apple where
76:43 you're designing your own processor and your own phone and your own software
76:47 you're profiting on people buying apps Samsung tried to do it and I think
76:51 ultimately we're seeing the beginning of the end of the Samsung Android Empire
76:55 because they weren't able to turn their their own app store into anything
76:59 functional or useful and uh beyond that
77:03 what's their value I mean it's they're they're already having a really hard
77:06 time convincing people that a Galaxy S whatever is significantly different from
77:10 a Nexus 5 which is much cheaper and it's
77:14 really just not yeah I don't know man what else we got
77:19 for today we're pretty much done we're going to finish the show early I guess that's what happens when we start on
77:23 time huge amount of topics though I think it's just a lot of them went fast
77:27 yeah uh there's stuff still in the unformatted which is really interesting
77:30 let's just do some straight up Q&A guys hit us uh at Linus tech on Twitter hit
77:35 us with some Q&A and we'll uh while while they're hitting us up um have you
77:39 looked at the open open source laptop modular laptop thing yeah looks like the
77:44 stupidest thing ever right now oh yeah oh yeah apple devic is locked and held
77:48 as Ransom this is kind of brutal so there was a thing going around a while
77:53 ago where your files were getting getting encrypted and then you had to
77:56 send a ransom and they would unencrypt it well this one this
78:00 one's so hack into the device lock it
78:03 and then so they actually are using the find my iPhone feature to remotely lock
78:08 your device and then they are telling you that you can't have it back so it
78:12 just will have a message on the screen like that locked message that says if
78:16 you want it back you have to pay a hundred bucks or Euros or whatever else
78:19 to some hot mail address absolutely brutal guys
78:23 um I guess that's all I really have to say about that that sucks I think it's
78:27 going to be way too trackable though yeah I don't see this being a problem
78:31 for much longer payments are flowing like they're going to find this guy yeah
78:35 oh also this is really cool if you guys haven't seen it already the solar
78:39 roadways thing that's going on is pretty amazing uh you should check out the
78:44 Indiegogo projects solar roadways they got super duper funded yeah they got
78:48 super funded so they should 21 days left
78:52 I love it this video is actually uh
78:55 um oh I don't know if this is even the one that I this the tractor one I think
78:59 the tractor one's a different video yeah where's the like fanmade one fanade
79:04 solar freaking roadways there it is yeah ignore the actual one this one's amazing
79:08 uh let me just put on some volume for you they're solar freaking roadways what
79:13 do they want from me well they're solar
79:16 freaking roadways okay so actually this time what is it okay so it's like 7
79:20 minutes long but it's actually a pretty good watch you guys should definitely check it out but the main benefit
79:24 benefits are that you can rear they have LEDs built into them so you can
79:28 rearrange the markings on them however you want they're heated which means that
79:33 clearing snow is no longer an issue as well as the flooding that sometimes
79:37 occurs when snow melts they're solar so you're utilizing all that area to
79:42 collect solar energy which is of course the cleanest energy that we can have you
79:47 don't have to you don't have to disrupt you know tidal pools you don't have to
79:50 disrupt rivers and waterfalls nope nope just Sun hits the Earth We're will
79:54 basically become plants leverage the sun it's all very
79:59 good stuff um there's a bunch of other really great stuff about it but it's one
80:04 My Favorite Things is you said you can change the LEDs on it so say if two
80:07 people park in handicap parking stalls and then they're full they can just
80:12 create another one right it can detect there's actually a video of this it can
80:16 detect that they're full and it can just grab a near parking spot and just be
80:20 like now this one is handicapped cuz it can just show on the ground it can warn
80:23 people about instructions on the road so they've got pressure sensors in them so
80:27 if something Falls and like demolishes a road it'll be like whoa dog slow down
80:31 and like text on the road or if there's a deer like it'll know it'll feel the
80:35 four hoofprints and it'll be like yo dog there's a deer up ahead Slow Down slow
80:39 down yourself um so it's it's incredibly
80:42 exciting they could probably have these communicating with uh those Google cars
80:46 at some point in time so it can automatically figure all this stuff out and go around things would love for this
80:50 to be the future really really super easy really really lowcost power power
80:54 charging stations for electric cars love
80:58 it there a bunch of stuff you had a Twitter Blitz that happened yeah but
81:01 there's uh one more thing I wanted to hit before the Twitter blitz so um tech
81:05 report Seagate buys sand force from LSI
81:09 for 450 million so this has been complicated so LSI bought sandforce and
81:14 then like what was it avago or whatever bought LSI and then now avago is well by
81:24 proxy I guess selling sand force from LSI to Seagate this is an interesting
81:30 move to me yeah where it feels like cuz sand
81:37 it's it's kind of like IND links okay SSD controller makers come and go yeah
81:42 and popularity Rises and Falls IND links went from being a hot item with the
81:47 Barefoot controller to being acquired by ocz to releasing Barefoot 2 which I
81:52 think ocz was hoping well not I think ocz was hoping to leverage by selling
81:57 the controllers and the technology to other SSD makers but then their new
82:01 controller wasn't good enough and they just completely fell off the face of the
82:05 Earth or not I shouldn't say not good enough the the latest inlink stuff and
82:10 not necessarily the controller Hardware but the the software the technology is
82:13 not actually terrible it just isn't groundbreaking enough in a market that
82:17 is full of a bunch of stuff that performs pretty much the same so I'm
82:21 looking at this going just because sand force is a big deal yesterday and a big
82:24 deal today doesn't mean that it matters at all tomorrow and SF 3700 Series has
82:29 been delayed multiple times now I mean we were first shown it like what
82:34 computex last year I think so yeah and it doesn't exist yet um I just wonder if
82:41 if sandforce is being shuffled around because they just got
82:45 nothing yeah I wouldn't be surprised I'm kind of surprised seate bought
82:49 them yeah kind of weird well seagate's
82:52 gotten into ssds I mean they've got their own brand ssds now but are they
82:56 really pushing them maybe this is their whole goal is now they'll maybe push
82:59 them really hard the thing about an SSD is the controller actually isn't a huge
83:04 part of the the bomb cost or or really a huge selling point to me at this point I
83:08 mean Reas why I don't understand why they bought it Samsung went hero mode
83:13 when they went okay like CU flash isn't a big differentiating factor because
83:16 there's only a few makers of Flash and no one else is going to get into that Business Without a massive investment
83:21 that makes no sense so Flash doesn't differentiate controllers don't make
83:25 much of a difference these days it's coming down to features like Hardware
83:29 encryption or all that stuff that's on Evo data loss protection and it's coming
83:33 down to software stuff like what Samsung did with EVO where they basically went
83:37 yeah we we know our SSD is a commodity so we're going to build this cool
83:40 software that lets you use your RAM to cach it yeah and we're going to have
83:44 this like great cloning software that allows you to clone onto a smaller drive
83:49 because that's what a lot of people will be doing and then have it overflow elsewhere so I don't really see the
83:53 point of spending 450 million when they could have spent $450 million trying to
83:57 come up with some ideas for how to deliver value ads on the SSD that they
84:01 already have unless they and I like I
84:05 just and and yeah whatever I mean it would be the
84:08 first time I didn't understand something and it turns out to be a great idea yeah
84:11 I don't really get this one unless there's something new in the pipeline or unless they're planning something weird
84:16 I'm not really sure so there you go all right Twitter Blitz
84:23 time um if it decides to allow us yeah
84:26 if it ever actually loads there we go all right having a garage sale today
84:33 I'm hungry I have food okay uh yeah sure
84:39 why not I think I have a 780 so stay tuned for that what what what what why
84:44 are you selling 780 what one what what what what what what hold on what 780
84:48 just calm down uh direct Su you too okay that's
84:53 fine why what 780 are you upset about I
84:56 just want to make sure you're not taking like one of my benching ones oh no or
85:00 just one of the reference ones in general okay why are you all
85:04 green uh we a little green that means oh
85:07 like H H oh I don't know the window Windows open and the sunlight is bright
85:12 and there's grass outside that's the best guess I have yeah 4.1 gahz new
85:17 Haswell okay um you know what's funny is
85:21 we actually made it all the way through the show without talking about Titan Z
85:24 being available now and without talking about any of the new Haswell stuff which
85:28 is kind of funny Titan Z is in my mind
85:31 the least relevant thing to the viewers of our show ever unless you're a Cuda
85:35 developer it's totally irrelevant we don't recommend it unless you're a Cuda
85:39 developer t Titan Z just straight up makes no sense for gamers in the do yeah
85:45 ouch uh do you have a tutorial on how to build a PC for first timers uh yes many
85:52 in fact we have the hands down best
85:56 tutorials on YouTube for how to build a PC and more than one too so if you're
86:00 like oh this part maybe wasn't super clear you can just watch another one and
86:04 we have nice little time stamps for each individual part and you can jump around
86:08 in the video and find exactly what you're having trouble with installing
86:11 I've actually heard I have a buddy that installed oh I clicked New Egg TV gross
86:14 not that one that's not a good go away go away go back Eli the computer guy
86:19 even okay I don't even know what you're doing okay if you search for search
86:24 there uh this one's really good the 1500
86:29 gaming one is really PC build guide why don't we go
86:33 with that yeah telling how you optimize your keywords cuz now it's like all us
86:38 so this one's really good the one with a million views um video editing station
86:43 one's pretty good uh this one's really good if you're doing like a basic
86:47 machine the cavar build guide uh we have
86:50 a water cooled one here's if you're building a small form factor so we cover
86:53 a lot of tricks there we've also got another AMD value one that's mostly if
86:57 you're building something a little bit lower end and then Overkill if you're
87:01 doing liquid cooling you're going to want this one so I hope that addresses that and I
87:08 guess we're going to be having a mineral oil one coming maybe depends if we yeah
87:12 depends are you excited for this year's
87:15 E3 um I'm excited that I don't have to
87:19 go I'm hoping I get to check out Ubisoft um because I want to look into like
87:23 Assassin's Creed and Far Cry 4 and whatever else they might be working on
87:26 like uh what's it called not driver the crew um I'm excited for 2K because I
87:31 want to see the that new civilization game which looks amazing I think it's
87:34 called beyond Earth um I'm excited to check out Nintendo because they're doing
87:37 that crazy like what is it that new the
87:41 new uh Zelda franchise game oh I can't
87:44 remember what it's called it's like Hyrule Hyrule Warrior basketball no are
87:49 they going to are they going to hor out link the same way they have Mario no no
87:53 no it's it's like it's called Hyrule Warriors or something it looks really
87:56 cool but no not basketball or golf or anything like that yeah I got I got the
88:01 eBay email as well idea for T-shirt with
88:04 the word Wanger no I don't think we need a t-shirt with the word
88:08 Wanger what are your opinions on GameCube that's actually really cool
88:13 hear probably should made into yeah you can play the new the upcoming Super
88:16 Smash BRS with your GameCube controller using an adapter for the Wii U that is
88:21 like really cool actually yeah and like
88:25 everyone is in love with that uh have you played Watch Dogs I have not played
88:30 it um I do have a copy I don't know if I would classify what I did as playing it
88:34 you benchmarked it yeah but I didn't really get to experience the game hello
88:38 what is the highest in GPU I can run before bottle okay go watch my fastest
88:42 possible on bottlenecking because it doesn't really work that way um sup
88:46 watching the stream from my MacBook bro bro bro do you see game consoles ever
88:51 equaling PCS for price to Performance yeah they're pretty much much there
88:54 right now PS4 is very competitive price to performance- wise with a low-end PC
88:59 Xbox one maybe not so much yeah maybe not PS yeah computex Maxwell releases I
89:04 don't know I have to leave but I'm waiting for one question that I have to answer what would you recommend nope
89:09 single 780 single 780 are you getting the Razer Blade 14 soon yes uh theyve
89:14 finally confirmed we are getting one soon what drink do you get at Tim
89:18 Horton's chocolate milk really you go to
89:21 every time you go to Tim Horton's to get chocolate milk I don't drink coffee
89:25 right but no if like if everyone's going
89:29 to two Mortons oh and then I'm like I want to get like a a meal or whatever
89:34 and get chocolate milk with it because there's like nothing else there I don't want to get pop I like the lemon ice tea
89:39 I didn't even know they had that but yeah know I'd probably still get chocolate milk chocolate milk is pretty
89:43 much the best thing that ever happened to humanity ah let's not debate that cuz
89:48 that LE
89:51 immediately opinion on iOS being confirmed I think that it's not very
89:57 unexpected it's another mobile oper yay it's going to be like the other
90:02 one except slightly more different you probably could have confirmed iOS 8 on
90:05 like iOS 4 like it's going to come at some
90:11 point um bye everyone any idea how valve
90:15 will address the issue of Windows games not working on Linux well there's not a whole lot they can do it's up to the
90:19 individual developers whether or not they make the game work on Linux there
90:22 technically stuff they could do is home streaming the only option home streaming
90:25 is a fantastic option if that's the only option who cares that's a great option
90:30 services like wine and stuff you have to go get out of here which make Windows
90:34 games work on Linux I'm tired of could technically build something better if they wanted to
90:39 bye all right what do you think about the Titans Z I think I already answered
90:43 that one since we can join multiple groups now people are just joining
90:47 whatever and getting email invites for explore that's interesting I guess
90:50 that's what's going on over there I got 99 problems but a g750 Jay-Z ain't
90:57 one uh Demitri asks why no 1080p for the
91:00 lancho archive great question uh we switched from streaming at 1080 to 720
91:05 back when we were having bandwidth cap issues with our ISP um there is actually
91:11 technically no reason why we couldn't stream at 1080 now and then the archive
91:15 would be at 1080 all right so I think let's call
91:19 that pretty much it for the W show today thank you guys very much for tuning in I
91:23 thought this was a pretty good show I hope you guys agreed thanks again to our
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91:40 another really exciting project planned with isus in the next little while it's
91:44 funny because we didn't do anything with isus for the first entire year that lus
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91:54 show and we got this really cool upcoming project you guys are going to be pretty stoked on it trust me and uh
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92:20 moment seriously okay well whatever
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92:48 even know what these things
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