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better anyway guys we've got a great show for you today as always this week
the big topics are the Gameworks controversy NVIDIA and AMD are added
again and surprising super butt hurt at
each other again surprising we're really surprised oh yeah here you're a little
far over that way scooch in we never uh
we never can quite get the whole where we should put like x's on the chair so
that we know like where it aligns with kind of the
butthole so that you can be in exactly the right spot every
week yeah that would work yep I mean if
we didn't want to go for the whole butthole thing then we could just put
like butt marks around the outside of where the cheeks go but then if one of
us put on some weight then we wouldn't be able to see them anyway not that
that's happened to either of us
lately we switch we switched didn't we
oh my goodness we did too yeah
you'll get it back I don't talk about it all right so there's the NVIDIA AMD
thing there's an SSD middleware that could be coming that could they're
claiming quadruple your SSD's performance and this is without actually
buying a new SSD although I'd be surprised to see something like that
implemented for free what else we got
who I got to jump back up there uh Google is going to start building their own self-driving cars they've had this
kind of stuff going around for a while but they're actually going to start manufacturing these cars which is really
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thing I think that's uh that's a pretty nice topic to give to the people who
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all right okay so this was posted originally by Booker dwit on the Forum
and it is an article from Forbes about Why Watch Dogs is bad news for AMD users
and potentially the entire PC gaming
ecosystem so this isn't exactly a new thing for AMD to wave the flag about and
what they're basically saying is that Gameworks represents a clear and present
threat to gamers by deliberately crippling performance on AMD products
now what Gameworks effectively is is it's a um it's a it's a toolkit that
game developers can use to implement features or um basically features
features or graphical um well really
features features it's features it's features Implement features into their
games without actually coding the whole
thing themselves so when I was at NVIDIA's um Montreal event they were
showing off some of the big improvements that they had made recently to GameWorks
with things like particles and fire
where to to put it sort of in really
really simple terms it's kind of like on a camera having a profile that makes the
image look better or adds an effect to your image where the game developer
doesn't actually have to dial in all the manual settings and figure out how to do
themselves so it's basically like think of it like dragging and dropping fire
effects into your game so that it looks like this great realistic fire when all
you had to do yourself was like put it there and then it animates itself so
that's what Gameworks is but what AMD
doesn't like about it is that developers
license these proprietary NVIDIA Technologies in order to make their
games look great but that doesn't give AMD any kind of real insight or
necessarily a way to optimize their driver to perform well when rendering
that feature in that game so things like smoke and lighting and textures and
shadows and all that kind of stuff can
hurt performance on AMD cards says Robert HCK so participation often okay
so okay this is from the original article so participation in the
Gameworks program often precludes the developer from accepting AMD suggestions
that would improve performance directly in the game code the most desirable form
of optimization so basically he's also
saying that this makes it more difficult for them to perform their own after the
fact driver optimizations and it's basically yeah
you know AMD doesn't support or condone such activities and it's like super
poopy and terrible now a couple days went by and
NVIDIA fired back and suris how long it took actually I'm a little surprised at
how long it took but I can understand why they would have wanted to be very
careful about their response they don't want to say anything that's
that's not correct so NVIDIA came back and said look we'll have a we have a
kickoff meeting with the developers we'll brainstorm cool new effects we'll
show them the cataloges that we have and then we'll prototype something outside
of their engine give them an idea what the effect might look like and we work
with the developers but we don't and never have restricted anyone from
getting access as part of our agreements not with Watchdogs and not with other
titles our agreements focus on interesting things we're going to do
together to improve the experience for all PC Gamers and of course for NVIDIA
customers we don't have anything in there restricting anyone from accessing
source code or binaries and developers are free to give builds out to whoever
they want it's their
product so pretty much where we're at right now
is he says she says which is the usual thing with AMD and NVIDIA um I don't
think I don't think we're likely to get any kind of an official response from
any game developer because the last thing they're going to want to do is
jeopardize their relationship remember game developers need both AMD and NVIDIA
on board ultimately even uh the way it's meant to be played
title the dev wants it to run on AMD cards they're not going to ignore 40% of
the market or 30 however odd percent of the market by just making it run like
poo on AMD cards if they don't have to there's there's some speculation about
the whole source code thing because they could be like yeah you can release the
source code but our parts are up fiscated so you can't actually read that
part of the source codes you can get to some of it but then whenever one of the
game works effects is going to go off you're really not going to know what's
happening there so it's it's it's it comes down to wording and what's
actually being said so let's talk a little bit about what you'd rather see I
mean AMD did their whole mantle thing
which I don't think they've actually opened it up to NVIDIA yet even though
they said that they would at some point point where basically the game would
have to be coded completely differently to run um on directex versus on mantle
whereas what NVIDIA is doing is they're approaching developers and going okay
here's a feature it'll run on whatever
but the performance is obviously you
built for our Hardware we're optimizing for NVIDIA um and the positive and
negative things here are both pretty clear to me so positive number one is
that we're getting much better visual effects than we otherwise would have
been able to or much less work required
for very small devs to create visually
stunning games games that will run on AMD but won't necessarily perform the
best and then the disadvantage is that it creates this segmentation where
NVIDIA is kind of helping developers
make games that run better on NVIDIA
hardware and potentially depending on who you believe make it more difficult
to run on AMD Hardware or at least more difficult to optimize yeah I don't know
if I'd say more difficult to run so if you had your
way would you say I developer X I would
like you to use Gameworks or I wouldn't like you to use
Gameworks and let's say let's say I let's give you guys two you know what
let's straw straw pull it so I want two options I want AAA developer and then I
want Indie developer so allow multip poll choices so AA developer yes AAA
developer no Indie yes indie no would
you like for them to use it or would you like for them to not if they can save
some Dev costs if they can bring it to you earlier if they can spend that time
on developing gameplay more as opposed to animating better fire or something
like that how do you guys feel about it
because I mean for to me game works is a
very natural evolution of what already
existed as uh gaming evolved the way
it's meant to be played these programs where NVIDIA and AMD and often both of
them at the same time are working very closely with game developers in order to
optimize the game to me this is just NVIDIA taking a very proactive approach
to that so instead of a game developer building something bringing it to NVIDIA
and them going okay let's optimize it they're giving them something that's optimized in the first
place it doesn't feel wrong to to
me but it does put AMD at a disadvantage
but that's just AMD or that's just NVIDIA working very closely with
developers and proactively helping developers make better games even though
they could they could go out of their way and let the source code be leaked to
MD if you were NVIDIA would you do
that see but they built the technology yeah you've got you've got multiple
Arguments for that as well but then you can turn around and go AMD built tress
effects and allows anyone to use it in
all one game that it's being used in whereas NVIDIA has created to I mean I
mean that's something that I got to look at too and I go okay AMD or NVIDIA can
say here's what we're giving to developers but at the end of the day
whether or not developers are using them to me even though I'm not a Game Dev and
I don't really understand how these tools work very intimately I look at it
and I go well this is the one the developers are actually
using how useful was the other stuff that they're not using I don't know yeah
I don't know personally I don't think I'm as as against games works as a lot
of people are and that's that's another thing too like if you look back at the Forbes article they have a picture for
uh 290x versus
770 if you see that oh uh can you send
me the link it's in the dock it's in the dock oh that makes sense okay right
there there we go all right so guys here's the the image that Luke is
referring to and then if you go to I wonder if I can find it it on the
network I should be able to find it on the network I should have looked for this earlier but my charts I seriously
don't think it was that bad like the the the Gap differences for tier equivalents
right were really not that far away
especially considering like how scared so many people were at the very
beginning and considering that we run
stock coolers on everything so the current invidious stock coolers are
making colder cards than the current AMD ones are which are running really hot so
a lot of and NVIDIA benefit from a
cooler running card y exactly so some of our overclocks are getting higher on
NVIDIA right now just cuz we have more overclocking headro due to thermals if
we we we do stock cards so next
Generation might flipflop who know reference cards reference cards yeah
sorry um so like it's not like that
changed and the AMD cards are still really close so I don't know I don't see
it being this horrible thing that everyone's talking about like maybe it
was harder for AMD to do it I know talking about how they're not going to be able to fix it as much afterwards
with drivers as they could have before um it's in the actual folder for the
actual thing yeah it's okay I mean ultimately the thing here though is that
both AMD and NVIDIA did manage to have
optimized drivers available for the game's public release and then for all
the good it did anyone because Watch Dogs is well yeah a bit of a dog right
now in the Forbes article he's showing 29 X and 770 being very competitive in
mine here I've got it now here we go
there so guys have a look at this so we've got 780 and 290x being within 10%
of each other and then 290 trailing another couple of percent after that
with 770 getting absolutely destroyed and like everyone calls us NVIDIA
Fanboys and like what the Forbes article showed them with the 770 winning and
they're like AMD was crushed in this blah blah like no they did totally fine
it wasn't even that bad if for for how much they were
suppressed and stuff yeah like I don't actually see it as being that big of a
deal maybe the run that I had didn't have a crazy amount of Game Works
effects I don't like I don't know I
really don't I got wonder what forbes.com knows about game benchmarking
anyway no and I'm not even I'm not even I actually didn't read the article so
straight up didn't read the article maybe you guys can tell me maybe they have a fantastic benchmarking
methodology I'll be the first to admit ours isn't the best either but I I like
I just I wonder how they're actually benchmarking the game uh because it just
has nothing to do with the results that we're getting so and I to my knowledge
they haven't done a ton of video card reviews like I saw an R9 295x2 one
because I was getting a lot of tweets back when that card was released going hey lonus why did you not get a sample
of this card and for .c did and I was kind of like I don't know um because
Forbes isn't really known they're more known for market analysis and less known
for actually taking physical hardware and reviewing it so it just seemed like
a bit of a a bit of a weird thing to me yeah so there you have it guys um that's
the current state of affairs we'll update you guys if anything happens but
I personally see this as a bit of a
nonissue for the moment especially because the differences in performance
really don't look very different from other games whether they are a way it's
meant to be played or a gaming evolved title in fact I haven't seen obvious
optimization to the point where it's like yes this game is clearly
handicapped in a really long time
yeah all right so moving on to our next
topic speaking of Watch Dogs this was an
article from the register but uh they're
not the only ones reporting on this tens
of thousands of Watchdogs Pirates enslaved by Bitcoin botmaster I think
that's a very sensationalist
headline but it doesn't change anything about the fact that pirating games is
just plain not a very good idea
sometimes so basically what was happening is your machine you would
install the game and run it and your machine would launch another executable
that would start to mine Bitcoins for
the right now it's not very clear whether it was the original cracker of
the game or whether it was someone who took a cracked release that they claim
they never did maybe you have some on the on the Watchdog video people were
saying that I was wrong because I said the the guy that cracked it put in the
thing but then other places where I've looked up are saying that the guy that
cracked it just faked skid R's names skro is a very popular well-known game
cracker um so I don't know what actually
happened but something happened and one that a lot of people downloaded had a
minor in it so so the great thing about this is particularly on lower-end
machines that was having a dramatic impact on the game's performance which
might be where some of the oh Watch Dog friends terribly stuff was coming from
although from what we've seen it really doesn't look better than something like
Far Cry 3 version also has a minor in it I don't I'm
kidding one thing that I thought was that's
interesting what a free game that
instead of being you can choose you can go okay I'll pay for or I'll mine for
you or I'll mine for you that's interesting anyway um moving
moving along one thing I want to bring up one of another one of the comments on the video I should have quoted this
somewhere but the guy was saying um it it's it's funny because the pirated
version didn't get a three-hour Mission which was defeating you play to be able to play the game yeah I know right that
was hilarious I don't he might have said it in some other way but yeah it's so
true trying to Benchmark it was really
difficult because logging into up play was such a challenge half the time we
would just be like you don't have an inter internet connection I'm like actually yeah I do would really like if
you just worked now and you have to sit there clicking try again for like
forever so the way that it worked is it would launch this minor and then once
you close down the game that would actually continue to run so whoever did
this is like pretty freaking oh yeah
happy right now yeah and then there's a bunch of pretty upset people about the
uh about well the fact that they just generated a bunch of Bitcoins for some
butthead you parted the game so I can't feel that bad one of the
conspiracy theories running around was that Ubisoft did
it I don't think they're that in need of money but that would be that would be
pretty funny leaking your own pirated game but just putting a like a Bitcoin
minor in it so it's like yeah you don't want to pay for the game
guess what dog that would actually be really funny or if it was like some guy
at Ubisoft that did it with that intention
fantastic all right let's move on to our oh we never got the straw pole results
did I get a link for that I posted in chat a billion times if we just um I
don't think I have the link so okay I I I'm afraid of what's going
to happen if we do this but if I just no no no no just go to chat go to chat okay
I'm going to chat I'm going to chat I got this i got this okay guys so let's
have a look at the straw poll results I don't remember what I asked ah yes
should they use Gameworks and
wow so the majority of you you made it a
multiv vote poll right y well I don't think too many people voted for more
than one result I think that adds up to about 100% but anyway the majority of
you are just saying yes you you and especially Indie devs you'd like to see
Indie devs be able to take advantage of this deliver a game I mean that runs on
AMD hardare is based on the amount of votes there so it doesn't matter yeah so
that might look better than if I don't
remember what I'm talking right that might look better than if they had to code all this stuff themselves as long
as it runs on AMD then you're still totally cool with them optimizing it
using NVIDIA's tools so I mean I think that's great because there's been a lot
of a lot of back and forth about this with some people declaring Gameworks to
be the worst thing and others you know kind of trumpeting the NVIDIA horn and I
don't think either is the right answer it's somewhere in between as it usually
is whenever Fanboys get involved in some kind of an argument yeah I don't know I
just I just don't like I when I when I was reading through all this kind of
stuff I was expecting the worst thing ever me too and then it was just really
not that bad I was I was expecting half of Watch Dogs to basically be running
off of like NVIDIA Grid at their
headquarters and Ubisoft didn't even know what was inside the black box but
it's not that at all wasn't it Bioshock where if you had an AMD card you
couldn't see certain effects in the game you could see the water coming out of a
pipe uh you're thinking of Borderlands 2 Borderlands 2 yeah sorry not like I was
expecting something more along those lines yeah and that is that is still
something that a bothers me and B I do
think is terrible for the industry like the way that physx is implemented and
will always be implemented as long as it's not something that AMD and NVIDIA
users can leverage equally is just not that compelling to me once we can use
physx technology across the board you could actually make a game that's
designed to use it and make that
destructibility of the environment and all those other things that you can do
through physx part of an integral part of gameplay I mean the the the last game
we got that really used physx was like cell Factor that was a physx showcase
piece yeah I'm still waiting for that
yeah and poopy not a very well-received game at
all I mean as much as it's great to walk around on the street and like kick cans
out of your way it doesn't feel like a compelling
gameplay element to me all right so the original poster online tech tips.com was
Ren for this one finally a super easy name to say yeah I know right I have so
much difficulty with that Ren please post more JP research team develops SSD
middleware that improves speed by 300% and the headlines don't seem to
necessarily all agree about exactly how this works but basically what they're
doing is instead of writing data to a on a new blank page data is written on a
fragmented page located in the block to be erased next so it's kind of
predictively because the way that ssds work is you can't just overwrite
something you have to blank it first which is actually the timec consuming
part of writing something but it gets more complicated than that you don't
just you can't just blank something and then WR over top of it because you might
need to rearrange some of the stuff that's written within that cell and put
it somewhere else but it gets more complicated than that because you don't
even if you were to rewrite all this stuff all over the place blank it and
then write to it you don't want to unnecessarily blank pages if you don't
have to because that significantly degrades the longevity of the SSD so the
way that they work is really complicated what this is going to do is it's going
to look for predictively which one is going to be blanked next and then try to
proactively make room for your right so it might not affect read speeds that
much but it will affect reads in the context of that you won't have to wait
around for rights and it should affect rate speeds dramatically and they're
also claiming that you could increase the product life up to I think they're
saying around 55% not to mention you lower uh power
consumption because you're not doing as much random shuffling around of
data but wait there's more it looks like this could be as
simple as a middleware layer that sits between the SSD and your operating
system and does all or between your driver or between the controller sits
sits in the middle it sits in the middle somewhere and you may not even need a
new SSD which is kind of awesome I I I don't see a ton of different
manufacturers implementing this for free yeah I'd imagine it's going to be more
like a now with Turbo Charge
Uber Wanger I don't know whatever I
don't Wanger could mean fast probably not no no I'm thinking wow
that car is totally Wanger oh God don't make that a thing um it it was in a
simulation so I'm not sure if we'll see exactly this much speed and power
Improvement all that kind of stuff in real life but it's exciting to see someone improving ssds in this way yeah
yeah I mean but SSD the thing about ssds
is look at how stagnant it's been in terms of flash speeds in terms of
interface speeds and in terms of capacities it's not really moving very
fast and everyone's kind of jumping on the who we need PCI Express and we need
s Express and well we needed it 2 years
ago did we flash is not getting faster
with each new generation flash is continuing to actually get slower and
less reliable because of the smaller manufacturing processes and it's not
like and we're not going to get a dramatic Improvement there until we get
a big shift in the way that flash is manufactured so people are saying Wanger
in chat raise your wangers okay guys
you've got two minutes of raising wangers all you want and then we need it
to go away or we're going to start giving people times at timeouts um but
basically we need more we need smarter software we need smarter controllers in
order to really get more out of our ssds I think a great example is plexor m6e
which is not straight up not faster than a SAT SSD in real world tests yes you
get better sequential reads and not necessarily even writes but we're
limited by other factors still so yeah I
don't know it'll be interesting to see what this does when it's actually in the hand of people instead of a simulation
yeah because a lot of the time I love it how we're always getting these like new
holographic disc enables 500 tabes per
disc and then it turns out it's impossible to manufacture there's some
other kind of showstopping and like you can you can put data on it but you can
never read from it it's like oh yeah like you have to like make it out of
like you know ubiquitum which contrary to the name is
not ubiquit I was just like so everyone has this one
uh that is a segue into Skype translator
because it's something that they're talking about which I really don't think is going to happen at least anytime soon
it's like way down in Rapid Fire I'll
find it I'll find it go ahead and keep there's not even really much I want to say about this they're they're trying to
do something called Skype translator which as far as I can tell is going to take what you say and translate it into
some form of TTS or text to speak and then say it out of the other person's
speakers or headphones or whatever so you can talk to people over Skype in
different languages and it's all translated this was posted by Rafi on
the Forum go but like the open API for
Microsoft translating stuff is terrible
and it's Microsoft so they'll probably work on it and then like it'll disappear
or something and there's way more important things in my opinion that they
need to fix with Skype so hopefully they do that instead of making this um I
don't know how many people are going to go for voice chat over Skype that don't
know how to speak a Common Language um
but it might be fun honestly when looking at this I see I see it more as
being fun than anything else and like maybe it'll
help people learn different languages or something like that I don't know I mean
I I see it being kind of uh Niche like something like this like I actually I
didn't know about this even though it's about a four-year-old app for iPhone at
this point but word lens allows you to look at something in real time through
your phone and have it actually translate on the Fly um and it's
actually like it's pretty darn cool we were playing around with it a little bit
bit today at NC but by and large most
people won't be using it I mean there's I I think that in the future we're going
to see language barriers broken down this way but I just I don't think this
is really it we're so far away that it's kind of it's not like Oculus where it's
like yeah we're like pumped about this cuz it's like happening soon it's like
yeah my phone can barely tell what I'm saying to it now with like Google Voice
yeah I don't think it's really going to work when it's like going through
different languages and then there's all the problems with converting language
into another language and then having it still make any sense at all yep that's a
huge issue especially when you bring in stuff like slang and other things which
leads us pretty well into Google starting to build their own self-driving
cars I wish I could say I called this I did say I thought we were going to get
an iar but Apple has instead gone you
it's it's funny you look at the reversal here where Apple used to be all about
building it themselves and Google used to be all about partnering whereas now
for phones I think that they have um
been bitten a little bit on the whole partnering thing they've created a
monster out of Samsung and kind of gone well hold on a second they would have
been nowhere without Android without us and you look at glass uh they I mean yes
they're releasing the the lightweight Android that's going to run on wearables
and they will have partners but it just they've done most of the branding around
it themselves with their own Hardware before they're even talking about you
know letting anyone else have access to any of this stuff you look at what they're doing with this car where
they're going to build their own self-driving car you look at Nexus
program or whatever it's called Silver now or whatever else it seem feels like
they're moving in the direction of controlling the user experience and
there is something to be said for that but then Apple on the other hand is
going okay yeah we're going to partner with Ford and Toyota and everyone to
integrate our technology into the existing products so this is it
guys yeah looks ridiculous but that's
not really the point it looks like a super unimpressed little like Teddy
Bear yeah it does kind of look like a face doesn't
it yeah and if you actually like a totally not happy face at all he's just
like nope I'm doing things you enslaved
me to drive around so I guess I can do that or whatever it is kind of slavery I
guess so basically so sad uh this was posted
on the Forum by joners and instead of
even having a steering wheel or pedals which is something I personally am
pretty uncomfortable with I'd like to have the option to manual override to
manual over right I mean this is like that um that Doctor Who episode where or
the ey robot thing yeah it's well like anything where you know
someone decides yeah we're going to drive you into the sea yeah and there's
nothing you can do about it I I would like to have a steering wheel and pedals
but no it will have a stop and go button
and that is pretty much it very interesting
self-driving um you know he can't he
can't be sad because the plastic doesn't go that far so maybe he is sad maybe
it's like even worse than we expect because he can't pull his the size of
his mouth down anymore so he's showing the least amount of Happiness as he can
and Google is forcing that little car to be a minimum amount of happy would you
miss
driving gross
probably a little bit not really though
because if I could do other stuff while I was in the car be a lot more productive a lot of people won't be able
to anyway just because of motion sickness yeah I would probably actually
have a problem with that like I don't I I I used to get motion sick pretty
hardcore but I just like I think buil up a tolerance to it or something mine
seems to flip-flop like one day it'll be a problem and I can't read my phone and
then the other day it's totally fine and like it seems to depend on what car I'm
in and who's driving and like there's tons of different variables so I have no
idea it's funny how it's designed to make it seem non-threatening and help
people accept self-driving technology but I just think it looks kind of
ridiculous it does and like saying that that quote right there is like wow I'm
now scared
apparently earlier ones will have extra controls so test drivers can take over
if there's a problem that sounds like the one that i' would be interested in having yeah so it'll it will be an
electric vehicle it'll have a combination of lasers and radar to drive
I mean I personally am really excited for self-driving technology I just am
not 100% sure how I feel about Google doing it at this point with how
broke Google Maps has been for me lately I it's just every little thing and you
know what I'm going to get feedback from people where they go it's great it's amazing it works for me perfectly every
time and I'm like yeah that's fine but that doesn't change the fact that my
experience hasn't been that positive lately and all the feedback about how
take me home doesn't work and everyone's like yeah it does I demoed on the show
last week you know what it straight up doesn't work for me sorry it it doesn't
work for it's not consistent enough and we're talking about my life right and
this is like uh people publicly complain about both of these things but there's
far more people publicly complaining about Google maps and I've been having
tons of troubles with it lately I mean you were trying to find a Tim Hortons it
shouldn't be hard to find a Tim Hortons in Canada and there were two that my mom
was able to give us directions to that Google Maps was not giving him the
nearest locations for and was telling him to go what like 20 minutes away or
something it pretty far away and there was one like down the street walking
distance from where I had parked so I'm I'm sitting here going what are you guys
doing we're talk finding the nearest branch of a chain of restaurants super
popular in Canada chain of restaurants is functionality that worked two years
ago and this one was in a mall and had been there for a very long time and it
didn't know it was and there was another one down the road that wasn't in a mall
in case being in the mall was the problem this is technology that worked
really well back when I first started using Google Maps and I'm having a lot
of trouble with it lately yeah so I don't know I'm still planning to have
you switch to the iPhone for a little while just to try it out try Apple Maps
cuz I was pretty impressed as long as it doesn't drive me into a lake like it
used to then it'll probably be fine we
can't forget about that speaking of Apple um Apple has confirmed the
acquisition of Beats so uh that whole
video that leaked where Dr Dre was boasting about the world's first I I
think who who was it I think it was someone else actually pointing at him in
sort of boasting for but the point was the world's first rap billionaire um you
know what good for him is all I really have to say
it is it is inexplicable to me that
beats headphones were ever a thing um
but it was reading The Verge article here uh this was posted originally on
the Forum the best efforts of like every Tech Enthusiast ever Alex Goes High uh
this this was I think it was 30% or
something like that I can't I can't find the number but based on some market
research I think it was something like 30% of headphone buyers above $100
wanted an endorsement on it and I'm kind
of sitting here going like I
weep for all of
this like I just don't know what to say
anymore there was uh wait they wanted an endorsement they yeah they they wanted
to see an an endorsement before they would be willing to spend big money on a
pair of head phones so from from a previous Verge
article allegedly a pair of $200 Beats headphones was somewhere in the
neighborhood of $14 to produce I'm not sure if I quite believe that because
that might be a bomb cost but bomb costs do not represent the amount of product
development that goes into building something it doesn't account for R&D it
doesn't account for you know plastic molding it doesn't account for any other
prototyping processes it doesn't account for marketing where admittedly a big
part of the Beats experience is the marketing and celebrity
endorsements um probably the biggest that is probably the biggest part of it
but the point is that even R&D it just
straight up doesn't account for all of that
um but they're also they're also buying other things while they're buying this
company like they're not just buying like beats release Beats headphones
there's more to it than the headphones I mean I I think that the fact that the
brands are so similar and that they're able to achieve better than industry
margins on their products I think that's a key part of the acquisition Al
although one other thing that I'd like to see if it happens is Apple's been
willing to take less than beats margin on their products for the sake of
building a truly high quality premium product and I would like to see if
Apple's willing to spend $44 instead of
$14 or even $80 on a pair of Beats
headphones that they're willing to sell for 200 or 250 I would like to see what
they can bring to that because guys and
don't kid yourselves the companies that you love you know the sennheisers and
akg's and audio technical of the world they're making pretty good margin on
headphones too so it's not like beats is
is doing something it doesn't cost $1,500 to make a pair of hd800s yeah to
to be 100% clear if you think it costs that much you're dumb yeah I'm sorry but
you're actually stupid no way it doesn't cost that much but again there's the R&D
so I would like to see if Apple could tone down the whole celebrity
endorsement thing something they haven't done much with um with I much of
anything since like the Bono days um so
if they could tone that down a little bit spend a little bit more on the actual materials in R&D I'd be
interested to see what they can come up with but they're acquiring more than that they're also getting their uh
beats's streaming service which is um something that Apple hasn't been able to
or willing to build for themselves and is becoming much more popular with
services like Spotify taking the place of the more traditional it's funny to be
calling dollar MP3 downloads from iTunes
traditional it feels like not that long ago the iPod Revolution was happening
right yeah yeah yeah one thing that's been really frustrating lately is like
uh one one group that I've been listening to a lot is uh man what is it
Juke B oh man now I'm not going to be able to remember what it's called but it's it's this group on YouTube that
makes music the only way to possibly buy their stuff is through
iTunes like I don't want to install that terrible piece of crap right it's not
monster cat is it no yeah okay yeah I'm not sure I can't remember the name of it
someone wants Linus Tech Audio headphones yeah I don't think so I'll be
the first to I'll be the first to admit that I don't uh I don't know enough
about headphones to make headphones so there you you have it it
happened I I'm super super interested to
see what happens this is Apple's biggest acquisition to date and let's move on
then shall we true Crypt has been
compromised or maybe hasn't been compromise hasn't been compromised it's
it's an interesting setup if you go to the link at the bottom of the true Crypt
article in the dock yeah so posted by ion Bassa on the Forum here uh that's a
comment I think yeah that's that was a comment on the thread oh sorry sorry um
well I think I closed it now posted by Astro zombie sorry about that now if you
go to the bottom link true cry. CH this
is a new movement that has come up since the whole true Crypt thing happened and
this website not only tracks um what's going on with true
Crypt right now it's the like safe thing
which who knows if that's actually true or not but someone's saying that it's currently safe at this point in time um
but that the source code is just being is just sitting there so how long it'll
be safe for we don't know or if it is even actually safe right now we don't
know um these guys are planning on trying to pick up the project it's not a
um what do they call it it's not like a branch or anything like that they're taking part of the license agreement of
true Crypt which allows people to kind of mess with their um source code and
they're going to be making their own so anyone who had true Crypt anyone who's
using true Crypt uh we probably not screwed luckily
this group has come together and hopefully good things will come from this there they have a Blog coming soon
they have a forum coming soon and any information that you need about true
Crypt will probably be at true.
CH okay so who the heck knows what's
really going on right now maybe a little bit of what was going on um it it seems
like with the close of Windows XP and most things being built into operating
systems the true cryp project has been kind of abandoned um true Crypt wasn't
it was It was kind of taken for granted for a really long time the fact that it
even existed um and it's been kept up to
date by just this fairly small group of people for a very long time and they're
just kind of done that's about it they're just yeah
no it's been like 10 years or something I don't remember exactly how long it's
been but they're done with it now there's uh Windows 8.1 is blocking it
with their smart screen feature it's it's where is it I think it's detecting
it say malware yeah because it's it might be right now the latest version
but then maybe it isn't we don't know yeah I yeah I one thing is I wouldn't go
to True cry's actual website to download it I would probably go to True cry. CH
as far as I've seen a lot of people talking right now true cry. CH seems to
be legit um and the true cp.org website
is a lot of people have been speculating it might have been broken into and things might have been injected and
there might be problems going on I don't know as like seriously as far as
I can tell there's new news coming out about this like every hour I check up on
it and we've been on the a we've been on the show for a little while now so maybe
something even changed um but yeah if you're very interested in true Crypt I
would check out true cry. CH and keep paying attention there hopefully they
get their forms and their blog going soon so that people can have a hub to
talk about it on and that should be
good and that should be good I hope so
this is the conclusion I I really like true and I use it a lot so I really hope
that someone properly picks up this project and keeps it
going and that all the like oh my God the NSA was running it and all this
other crap stuff doesn't end up being true I don't know it probably is uh
whatever what I'm hiding is really not that important so it's
fine oh well I guess you can have my
online banking information which you probably have anyways jerks I know right
it's like the most disappointing thing ever Everything feels futile at this
point but it isn't it's still worth it to keep trying to uh to keep trying to
protect your rights and all that noise y speaking of protecting your rights this
was originally posted on the Forum by gamer
dad all right oh God
Nintendo has a plan for for Let's Plays
and I like if you guys remember that whole big Fiasco that was going on where
oops uh there we go where Nintendo was
pulling the monetization from anyone that was uploading their content so
that's audio or video from their games in fact we had it happen back when we
were playing Super Mario World on the Afterparty and our monetization got
pulled on that video so they just started pulling monetization back to
themselves CU I don't know if you guys know how this works but there's a few
different things that can happen if you're infringing content so for example
um my default okay so number one is if you have no infringing content in your
video then you dispute whatever claim
and then Google gives it back to you usually 3 days to 14 days later from my
experience if you legitimately have infringing content in your video there's
a couple of things that the owner can do so I my default Channel upload setting
is monetization but then I uploaded my wedding video to my lonus cat tips
Channel which had a song in it didn't even think about it so the owner of that
song went and they have two options they can either pull down my video or they
can monetize against my video so that every view instead of monetizing for me
monetizes for them and that's what they opted to do so the video is still up
there and so that's what Nintendo opted to do is they just pulled the
monetization from these videos to themselves and I kind of look at that
and I go like okay yes I I understand
you have the right to do that it's sort of it's just dumb it's not very it's not
very black and white whether or not they can things like they whether or not it's
a derivative work or whether or not it's who who it actually belongs to is really
not that clear right now legally but YouTube's allowing it and Nintendo's
doing it and even if they do have the right it's still kind of a dick move
yeah um but anyway that whole thing happened so now their brilliant um plan
is to develop an affiliate program to share the revenue you that they've
scooped between itself YouTube and the content creator I don't like how do you
not understand Nintendo's biggest problem right now is that everyone's just ignoring them because it's hard to
remember that they exist at this point in time and then they're trying to make
it really difficult for people to bring them into the spotlight like what what
are you what are you possibly thinking like if any and the kinds of games that
Nintendo focuses on things like party games or
Platformers or it's not going to ruin the experience by watching someone play
it like I'm not going to not want to play Super Smash Brothers because I had
the entire experience from watching someone else play it that's stupid like
especially something like Mario party what you're actually watching that for is like the experience of those people
playing so if it's a game that's heavily
story driven and something where I really think that gamers are going to
watch a let's play instead of buying the game I get it I understand the
developers perspective here it's really not fair something like walking dead or
something like Wolf Among Us where it's or brothers tale of two sons basically
just a story it's a movie in the form of a game an interactive game story movie
whatever you get my point I get it but something like Nintendo's games really
if anything I agree with the let's players and I agree with the YouTubers
who are saying look we're driving exposure for your game you should be
paying us to play your game and broadcast it to our thousands of
fans so it's just so backwards details
will be announced in the future but I'm really disappo I want to like Nintendo I
really do I was like a Nintendo kid
growing up so many people were I was you're just you're disappointing me
Nintendo is the revenue really so much that it's going to affect your your
millions of dollars deficit I don't think so I think you have other things
to focus on it's just it seems so mind like it
seems like they just have no idea what's going on so does this all right this
this Miss and thrope and I have a bit of an off andon sort of good or bad
relationship we're a little up and down because sometimes he can be a bit of a
butthead and other times his butt headedness uh really hits the nail on
the head and I think this post is actually pretty good uh it starts with
and it's okay would love for news posts
to be written in a neutral voice I hope he changes his title to resident
Butthead resident butthead I hope so too um just because you call them that I
think that would be hilarious so the the first line in his in his article in in
is his write up about it is a developer's defense of 30 frames per
second aka the resolution is just a number argument on crack
and so 60f this is this is from who is
this what Dev is this from again I can't remember right now they make 1866 I
believe it is remember the actual name of the de I'll find that so here it goes
60fps is really responsive and really cool I enjoy playing games at
60fps uh but one thing that really changes is the aesthetic of the game in
60fps we're going for this filmic look so one thing that we knew immediately
was films run at 24 FPS we're going to run at 30 because 24 FPS does not feel
good to play so there's one concession in terms of making it aesthetically
pleasing but it just has to feel good to play and I'm kind of sitting here going
okay so you both understand the issue
and entirely missed the point at the same time because you understood that 24
FPS might be good for film and isn't good for games but you didn't understand
that 30 FPS might look film Mick in a video but
it still isn't good for games it's still
not responsive we actually have a fastest Possible episode about refresh
rates and how 30
and thereby 30 FPS is just plain not
enough information for your eyes per second um coming out tonight that is
sort of along these lines but basically
here's the issue 24 FPS looks good in a
movie because of the way a camera works
and I don't even always agree with that and I don't even always agree either
fast motion in 24 frames per second looks very visually disorienting to me
you can see it chop I I don't I think the last one that I saw was it's not
Defiance is it Defiance I don't remember it's it's basically a different version
of The Hunger Games which is a different version of some other thing whatever I don't care um they go past this fence
yeah and there's a lot of tall poles on the fence and as it swings past it's
just like slice slice slice you can see the frames chopping it's so brutal looks
redonkulous so but the reason it works
is because the way that a camera whether it's film or whether it's a digital
sensor captures is by exposing it for a certain amount
of time that's the shutter speed is how long it's being exposed for so what
happens is if something's moving during
that exposure period you get blur you get natural blur that's why a movie
looks so much better while you while you watch it than it does if you grab a
screen grab of it and it looks blurry and poopy because your brain is what's
actually doing the work whereas in a
game you don't have motion blur naturally motion blur is not a natural
side effect of of rendering a frame in
motion you render frame by frame and
motion blur that gets added to games is terrible because the only way to add
motion blur is to either try to anticipate what's going to happen next
or buffer two frames buffer an extra frame so that you can intentionally blur
the difference between them that's how motion blur Works in games it's a Cheesy
effect and it will never be correct
it'll never be good and it'll always add leg maybe don't quote me on that maybe
they'll find some Genius Like by the time we're hooked up to like our Oculus
Rifts and like our brain probe things it may actually know what you're going to
do next and put motion blur in for you but by that time we'll have displays
that run at 600 HZ and games that run at 600 frames per second anyway so it
doesn't really matter we don't need motion bluring games and 30fps is not
good enough and you can't compensate with Mo with motion blur to make it look
more C itic do it in your cut scene don't do it in the game and as Gamers we
have to all demand better we have to ask for better and I know the hardware for
the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 just straight up isn't good enough to run
with modern lighting effects and all this other
stuff so I
guess PC I can't I can't find where this
is but um total here 30 FPS is not a Divine choice not design Choice design
Choice sorry um it is a last resort when dealing with inferior hardware and he
has a whole bunch of other quotes too and my favorite thing in this whole article actually was the very end where
is it so it's actually a kataku article originally I'll just go ahead and yeah
it's it's bullet pointed actually if you scroll down but what he says is a higher
frame rate does not significantly affect sales of a game a higher frame rate does
not significantly affect the reviews of a game right there bullet pointed and
like bolded on certain things and like that's a serious part of the article and
total biscuit just tore them apart on
like this exact thing I can't find the exact tweets that he has about it but
somewhere else but just like yeah actually it does sorry but you're
totally wrong and if it doesn't it should and but like one of the most
outspoken people in terms of game reviews total biscuit which is awesome
um constantly rips on games that are frame rate capped he's one of the
biggest game reviewers there are are you that
blind doesn't affect game reviews you're
wrong 100% like just no oh man if you
were them what Would You Do What could you say you can't say the Xbox One and
the PlayStation 4 or crappy and and I would rather they code
their game with better effects that we can enjoy on our PCS and let the console
guys run at 30 frames per second rather than just dumbing down the way that the
game runs outright so I still I still
would rather they make 30 FPS games as long as I don't have to play them so if
you're them what can you say then you have no choice but to do exactly what
they're doing no they just built it in terribly just have it so that it looks
better on PC and is able to run faster and have a down version for
console if they do that then it looks like they're intentionally crippling the
console version you have to I mean I think okay really there is a solution
here and I'm just kind of being a jerk right now give a give them a graphic
slider on the
console uh or not yeah or a 30 60
toggle why not I could see that yeah I
see a lot of people taking advantage of that if the game can run on PS3 and PS4
then it can sure as hell run at 60 FPS on PS4 I'm like just yeah 30 uh 3060
toggle that just does everything for you yeah why not just like turns down
resolution a whole bunch turns down any effects a whole bunch but gives you a
smoother gameplay experience some people will prefer that and that's how you get like everybody on your side yep and
because they're going to be like yeah it's a beautiful game unless you don't want it to be and then it runs at 60
FPS all right so something that actually
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spending money to try and get a job yeah exactly right I'm going to get the paid
LinkedIn because that one will be better and it is a lot better yeah but still
LinkedIn is really good at like making you pay for it to be useful at all
bugging you I know I never had a LinkedIn account I got one recently I'm
just like wow I don't want any more emails from you a lot of em it's just
like leave me alone I don't care I just
wanted to update my profile because it
seems smarter than like writing a resume
at this point in time I'm moving into the 21st century it's like well um would
you like a free trial of Premium so that three people looked at your page this
guy sent you a message check your check your thing please you just got endorsed
for these skills like go away endorse
people please I'm not actually looking for a job right now this is a core part
of our system I don't care about you LinkedIn there should be like a please
go away button like please I'll let you know when I'm like interested in this
again please there should be a auto endorse all of my friends just do it I
care LinkedIn should totally have a paid option so that I can monitor the
activity of my employees not like read their messages
but when my employees start like like I should be able to see their activity
level on LinkedIn so if I see unusual
spikes like blah blah blah updated the profile sent a bunch of messages I'll be
like something's coming I feel like that
would be taken advantage of immediately like
people would use it immediately and it would be terrible and torn apart very
quickly I guarantee you so many like owners would take advantage of it though
hold on a second though because there's a lot of LinkedIn stuff that is public
like activity on it so if yeah maybe not PMS but if I could just get a
report of activity I bet you this could be done with a third party probably
could because it's the kind of thing that I could comb through and find myself but if I just had it
automatically generated for me that's very interesting so business idea for
someone give us 10% like normal yeah but make this and then sell your Bot to
people and you can just have the bot crawl everything all the time so people
can get instant reports when they sign up yes and that's what people will want
cuz they'll want to be able to see results immediately so you just have it permanently CW all of LinkedIn and then
wow that's like the evilest thing ever cuz you know what's funny is i' I don't
remember when it was but I think um edel
created a LinkedIn profile like right around the time we formed lus Media
Group or updated it or something or like
it it creeped me out that everyone who works here has updated LinkedIn profiles
because I didn't have one until I started thinking about leaving
NC and so like I I project right like I
project my own mindset where I'm completely not interested in any kind of
social network platform even a useful one like LinkedIn unless I have an
immediate need I didn't have one until a couple months ago and like I knew I was
going to get that email from you when I sent you an invite on it but the only
reason why I got one was cuz I wanted somewhere to put my corsera course
whatever like certificate things right that's the only place you can display
them there's nothing wrong with having updated credentials on LinkedIn it's
good and like you know I want people who work here to build their portfolios and
like build their careers and stuff like that like I'm it's just one of those things where I just kind of like are you
are you leaving I just lay I lay in bed at night are they all going to where are
they going please don't leave me why is this happening uh speaking of why is
this happening you know my take on the steam controller was pretty mixed at the
beginning I was like really they're doing this touchpads okay let's see how
this goes and then my take on it when I tried it back at CES even though it was
quite an early prototype was okay well
let's see where they go from here valve
has basically delayed it they're saying realistically we're looking at a release
window in 2015 and that's pretty much all that they've said this was posted by
Rafi on the Forum wow two this week and I don't think I've ever seen you before
and I like you because you have an easy to pronounce name but basically my take
on this I don't CU he makes me feel like my form's broken with his stupid Avatar
picture oh yeah well
all right my take on this is what
probably happened was the original concept of touchpads is stupid and then
you saw what was happening with the prototypes over time how they got closer
and closer and closer to a traditional
controller upon which time I think people basically went oh yeah that's
pretty cool but the issue is that it's not really different so I think valve is
going through a bit of an identity CR right now with the steam controller
where they're going okay we wanted to do something like really Innovative that
changed the way people use controllers
and then we ended up with something that's pretty syy and we're not getting
into this because we just wanted to be a like controller manufacturer yeah valve
doesn't do stuff like that they're not getting into Steam OS because they want
to make Steam Machines they want to build an ecosystem valve is so much
smarter than wanting to make gaming peripherals so I I think what's happened
is they just don't know what it is anymore and if in I think they're just
saying 2015 but it's like valve time so I think I think they're basically going
okay if we can rejuvenate this project
and make it truly different then we'll then you know let's do that and if we
can't I think we might see Steam controller just quietly go away which
I'll be 100% okay with because up till now I I don't think there's a lot of
room to really improve on the controller you see third party I mean
everyone and their dog has had the opportunity to improve the Xbox 360
controller and we see like exoskeletons
that go on it we've seen like you know
rockers so that you just shift your hand to press certain buttons we've seen all
kinds of stuff we've seen modded ones that have the the switches replaced and
and the the analog sticks replaced or joysticks I think they call them now
whatever I don't care if they're not if they're not analog anymore um
and no one's really been able to do it and and now 360 controller is freaking
awesome and now we're down to the point where 3D printers are becoming more
affordable so even some individual could
create a better controller if they wanted to I just don't think there's any
room left to innovate and maybe I'm totally wrong but I think we're going to
see completely different ways of interacting with our games like
augmented reality and VR before we see a better controller I think the controller
is kind of an amusing amusing ancient way of controlling games
by the time my son is my age like like the old joystick two button style that's
just gone uh well it Mak it makes an
interesting um point because Nintendo we
we all saw that patent for like what what was it uh modular DS did you see
that patent no I didn't it was it was a DS but you could slide out all of the
parts that interact with the DS and replace them hm so people would
essentially be able to like make their own d-pad oh no I did see that the Nintendo
patent right yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember that right so that's it's
interesting because controllers are getting like there's there's so many
gamers now I think that's part of the thing is there's so many gamers that
cross such a huge age Gap from everywhere around the world that it's
hard to make something for every single person in existence right so I think
it's getting to the point where it's just like yeah make your own or buy
these modular things and swap them out
all right so um I Barnacles was
defending his use of Bing on Twitter this week so I I actually I'm using
Internet Explorer right now because I haven't bothered to sign into all my crap in a real browser so um it's true
Bing is the default so I search for Leap Motion V2 all right so I get like a
bunch of rubbish sponsored lot of them
that has like almost the whole page worth nothing to do with anything and
arguably my font size is a little bit large like that's probably more like a
normal font size but that is four sponsored results that aren't even
related to the leap motion and then the
first legitimate hit is from the developer
blog but isn't the leap motion V2 blog
post and finally it comes up with this
Google Boom top one exactly what I'm
looking for for and I just this just felt related to
um there we go so this is really cool
this just felt kind of related to the new ways that we're going to interact
with our devices and what's amazing about this is this is using the original
Leap Motion Hardware they actually haven't changed the hardware this is
just a new much lower latency much more accurate software Isn't that cool it's
so fast look at that responsiveness like it's crazy fast
love it so you know what's funny is they offered to send us a review sample like
a year month ago no no I contacted them a year ago and then like months and
months ago they were like yeah we'll send you a review sample and I was like well you know a lot of the hype has died
down um do you have anything new coming that maybe we'll wait for instead
they're like yeah we have a software update coming I'm assuming this is it
and so I saw this I reached out to them they're like yeah we're out of review samples again I'm just like guys like
seriously we can help you we just need you to help
yourself like I just don't even know what to say at that
point they're like yeah we can offer you a small discount and I'm just
like really so you have a review sample
for me when you don't have anything interesting and then you I'm like yeah I
want to do you a favor I want to time this to like talk about something new
and exciting and it's like oh yeah sorry
next time that they offer you one just take it and then just wait until the
next interesting thing comes out yeah just be like you probably would have
just waited if we did something for you anyways so don't worry about it we'll
get this video to you in about a couple months when you would have contacted us all right so this is two things number
one is dog fighting is
delayed yeah Star Citizen you're disappointing us but
there's still time for you to knock our socks off it's disappointing but I'm happy they didn't release it completely
broken as well yeah I get that I totally get it I would rather have delays
basically Chris Roberts wrote like this huge long thing was like yeah look we
want this out there as much as you do and I believe them mhm but there's two
of what we would classify as I think they call them blocker bugs like just
utterly gamebreaking bugs that we need to resolve there's some other critical
stuff that we really really want to fix and then there's some other stuff that we want to fix but until we can get
those really high priority fixes in there it's not coming sorry we missed
the date it's coming really soon the fact that they waited until the last
possible minute to tell us that it wasn't going to hit the date to me is
you can interpret this one of two ways and I lean towards the second one so you
can kind of go dick move guys you're telling us at the last minute we were
all excited or number two could be it's probably because they might have thought
they could still make it yeah so maybe it's that close so I really hope it
comes soon really excited guys don't forget to join the lonus tech tips
conglomerate Star Citizen organization we're falling
behind past us what the heck happened
yeah some random organization Imperium doesn't last time you talked to them
that was like a two days ago but no one knew who these guys were they know who
they are they won the they won like a contest a while back and all this kind
of stuff but they were really small and then out of nowhere they got like 5,000
something members in no time at all expl
so no you guys need to Rally with us
5,726 uh let's see they have time stamps for Stuff which is really interesting
so still updating we doubled in size
again 300 new members that's on April 16th on May 2nd they got 732 members in
total on May 25th they got 1,49 members
in total May 25th to May 28th they got
4,000 plus members in total what even
happened where did all these people come from so good for them good for them but
minus Tech tips conglomerate still going to be I mean really all of this is just
jockeying for position that is ultimately going to be meaningless once
the race actually starts yeah it's kind of like you look at any what Nascar race
formula race does being in front at the beginning of the race mean that you win
no there's a whole lot more yeah and
having a huge amount of members isn't necessarily going to make you win either that's true quality members I'm not
worried about that the main thing is I'm just confused I don't know what the heck
happened Reddit getting really big and passing us that's kind of that's not
surprising test Squadron getting really big that's fine uh maybe they'll do just
as well in in Star season as they did in Eve and just disappear so that's also
possible all right so NVIDIA shifts away from smartphones this is posted by Cy
Warrior basically Jensen came out and said okay well we're shifting away from
smartphones to other more profitable markets NVIDIA chipsets save for Tiger 3
have had limited success in the world of smartphones tiger 4 barely made it into
a few devices and tgra 4i hasn't had much luck as far as design wins go
either but NVIDIA is definitely interested in other markets such as
gaming devices like shield for example which is fantastic and doesn't get
enough credit um cars for example I'd love to see teger hardware and something
like a TV a couple of generations from now when that is going to be what a
console looks like a grid streaming device that just runs in your TV and you
don't need to worry about an extra box Bring It On yeah excited for that kind
of stuff I mean as internet connections get better I mean the the connection we
have here and the connection you have at home I think is like you get what like
five millisecond pings in games and people are like yeah he's like playing
at valve yeah or whatever like like how do you have how do you have like land
level ping I'm like oh I'm just chilling at valve HQ guys it is coming low enough
latency is coming so I'm really really excited about where we're heading there
and I I really don't see this as something that will have a major
impact on NVIDIA's Tegra development cycle it's just I think it's just them
kind of basically going yeah that whole thing is stupid so we give up and with
the way margins are being squeezed on phones the only way to make a profit on
a phone is to be very vertically integrated like someone like apple where
you're designing your own processor and your own phone and your own software
you're profiting on people buying apps Samsung tried to do it and I think
ultimately we're seeing the beginning of the end of the Samsung Android Empire
because they weren't able to turn their their own app store into anything
functional or useful and uh beyond that
what's their value I mean it's they're they're already having a really hard
time convincing people that a Galaxy S whatever is significantly different from
a Nexus 5 which is much cheaper and it's
really just not yeah I don't know man what else we got
for today we're pretty much done we're going to finish the show early I guess that's what happens when we start on
time huge amount of topics though I think it's just a lot of them went fast
yeah uh there's stuff still in the unformatted which is really interesting
let's just do some straight up Q&A guys hit us uh at Linus tech on Twitter hit
us with some Q&A and we'll uh while while they're hitting us up um have you
looked at the open open source laptop modular laptop thing yeah looks like the
stupidest thing ever right now oh yeah oh yeah apple devic is locked and held
as Ransom this is kind of brutal so there was a thing going around a while
ago where your files were getting getting encrypted and then you had to
send a ransom and they would unencrypt it well this one this
one's so hack into the device lock it
and then so they actually are using the find my iPhone feature to remotely lock
your device and then they are telling you that you can't have it back so it
just will have a message on the screen like that locked message that says if
you want it back you have to pay a hundred bucks or Euros or whatever else
to some hot mail address absolutely brutal guys
um I guess that's all I really have to say about that that sucks I think it's
going to be way too trackable though yeah I don't see this being a problem
for much longer payments are flowing like they're going to find this guy yeah
oh also this is really cool if you guys haven't seen it already the solar
roadways thing that's going on is pretty amazing uh you should check out the
Indiegogo projects solar roadways they got super duper funded yeah they got
super funded so they should 21 days left
I love it this video is actually uh
um oh I don't know if this is even the one that I this the tractor one I think
the tractor one's a different video yeah where's the like fanmade one fanade
solar freaking roadways there it is yeah ignore the actual one this one's amazing
uh let me just put on some volume for you they're solar freaking roadways what
do they want from me well they're solar
freaking roadways okay so actually this time what is it okay so it's like 7
minutes long but it's actually a pretty good watch you guys should definitely check it out but the main benefit
benefits are that you can rear they have LEDs built into them so you can
rearrange the markings on them however you want they're heated which means that
clearing snow is no longer an issue as well as the flooding that sometimes
occurs when snow melts they're solar so you're utilizing all that area to
collect solar energy which is of course the cleanest energy that we can have you
don't have to you don't have to disrupt you know tidal pools you don't have to
disrupt rivers and waterfalls nope nope just Sun hits the Earth We're will
basically become plants leverage the sun it's all very
good stuff um there's a bunch of other really great stuff about it but it's one
My Favorite Things is you said you can change the LEDs on it so say if two
people park in handicap parking stalls and then they're full they can just
create another one right it can detect there's actually a video of this it can
detect that they're full and it can just grab a near parking spot and just be
like now this one is handicapped cuz it can just show on the ground it can warn
people about instructions on the road so they've got pressure sensors in them so
if something Falls and like demolishes a road it'll be like whoa dog slow down
and like text on the road or if there's a deer like it'll know it'll feel the
four hoofprints and it'll be like yo dog there's a deer up ahead Slow Down slow
down yourself um so it's it's incredibly
exciting they could probably have these communicating with uh those Google cars
at some point in time so it can automatically figure all this stuff out and go around things would love for this
to be the future really really super easy really really lowcost power power
charging stations for electric cars love
it there a bunch of stuff you had a Twitter Blitz that happened yeah but
there's uh one more thing I wanted to hit before the Twitter blitz so um tech
report Seagate buys sand force from LSI
for 450 million so this has been complicated so LSI bought sandforce and
then like what was it avago or whatever bought LSI and then now avago is well by
proxy I guess selling sand force from LSI to Seagate this is an interesting
move to me yeah where it feels like cuz sand
it's it's kind of like IND links okay SSD controller makers come and go yeah
and popularity Rises and Falls IND links went from being a hot item with the
Barefoot controller to being acquired by ocz to releasing Barefoot 2 which I
think ocz was hoping well not I think ocz was hoping to leverage by selling
the controllers and the technology to other SSD makers but then their new
controller wasn't good enough and they just completely fell off the face of the
Earth or not I shouldn't say not good enough the the latest inlink stuff and
not necessarily the controller Hardware but the the software the technology is
not actually terrible it just isn't groundbreaking enough in a market that
is full of a bunch of stuff that performs pretty much the same so I'm
looking at this going just because sand force is a big deal yesterday and a big
deal today doesn't mean that it matters at all tomorrow and SF 3700 Series has
been delayed multiple times now I mean we were first shown it like what
computex last year I think so yeah and it doesn't exist yet um I just wonder if
if sandforce is being shuffled around because they just got
nothing yeah I wouldn't be surprised I'm kind of surprised seate bought
them yeah kind of weird well seagate's
gotten into ssds I mean they've got their own brand ssds now but are they
really pushing them maybe this is their whole goal is now they'll maybe push
them really hard the thing about an SSD is the controller actually isn't a huge
part of the the bomb cost or or really a huge selling point to me at this point I
mean Reas why I don't understand why they bought it Samsung went hero mode
when they went okay like CU flash isn't a big differentiating factor because
there's only a few makers of Flash and no one else is going to get into that Business Without a massive investment
that makes no sense so Flash doesn't differentiate controllers don't make
much of a difference these days it's coming down to features like Hardware
encryption or all that stuff that's on Evo data loss protection and it's coming
down to software stuff like what Samsung did with EVO where they basically went
yeah we we know our SSD is a commodity so we're going to build this cool
software that lets you use your RAM to cach it yeah and we're going to have
this like great cloning software that allows you to clone onto a smaller drive
because that's what a lot of people will be doing and then have it overflow elsewhere so I don't really see the
point of spending 450 million when they could have spent $450 million trying to
come up with some ideas for how to deliver value ads on the SSD that they
already have unless they and I like I
just and and yeah whatever I mean it would be the
first time I didn't understand something and it turns out to be a great idea yeah
I don't really get this one unless there's something new in the pipeline or unless they're planning something weird
I'm not really sure so there you go all right Twitter Blitz
time um if it decides to allow us yeah
if it ever actually loads there we go all right having a garage sale today
I'm hungry I have food okay uh yeah sure
why not I think I have a 780 so stay tuned for that what what what what why
are you selling 780 what one what what what what what what hold on what 780
just calm down uh direct Su you too okay that's
fine why what 780 are you upset about I
just want to make sure you're not taking like one of my benching ones oh no or
just one of the reference ones in general okay why are you all
green uh we a little green that means oh
like H H oh I don't know the window Windows open and the sunlight is bright
and there's grass outside that's the best guess I have yeah 4.1 gahz new
Haswell okay um you know what's funny is
we actually made it all the way through the show without talking about Titan Z
being available now and without talking about any of the new Haswell stuff which
is kind of funny Titan Z is in my mind
the least relevant thing to the viewers of our show ever unless you're a Cuda
developer it's totally irrelevant we don't recommend it unless you're a Cuda
developer t Titan Z just straight up makes no sense for gamers in the do yeah
ouch uh do you have a tutorial on how to build a PC for first timers uh yes many
in fact we have the hands down best
tutorials on YouTube for how to build a PC and more than one too so if you're
like oh this part maybe wasn't super clear you can just watch another one and
we have nice little time stamps for each individual part and you can jump around
in the video and find exactly what you're having trouble with installing
I've actually heard I have a buddy that installed oh I clicked New Egg TV gross
not that one that's not a good go away go away go back Eli the computer guy
even okay I don't even know what you're doing okay if you search for search
there uh this one's really good the 1500
gaming one is really PC build guide why don't we go
with that yeah telling how you optimize your keywords cuz now it's like all us
so this one's really good the one with a million views um video editing station
one's pretty good uh this one's really good if you're doing like a basic
machine the cavar build guide uh we have
a water cooled one here's if you're building a small form factor so we cover
a lot of tricks there we've also got another AMD value one that's mostly if
you're building something a little bit lower end and then Overkill if you're
doing liquid cooling you're going to want this one so I hope that addresses that and I
guess we're going to be having a mineral oil one coming maybe depends if we yeah
depends are you excited for this year's
E3 um I'm excited that I don't have to
go I'm hoping I get to check out Ubisoft um because I want to look into like
Assassin's Creed and Far Cry 4 and whatever else they might be working on
like uh what's it called not driver the crew um I'm excited for 2K because I
want to see the that new civilization game which looks amazing I think it's
called beyond Earth um I'm excited to check out Nintendo because they're doing
that crazy like what is it that new the
new uh Zelda franchise game oh I can't
remember what it's called it's like Hyrule Hyrule Warrior basketball no are
they going to are they going to hor out link the same way they have Mario no no
no it's it's like it's called Hyrule Warriors or something it looks really
cool but no not basketball or golf or anything like that yeah I got I got the
eBay email as well idea for T-shirt with
the word Wanger no I don't think we need a t-shirt with the word
Wanger what are your opinions on GameCube that's actually really cool
hear probably should made into yeah you can play the new the upcoming Super
Smash BRS with your GameCube controller using an adapter for the Wii U that is
like really cool actually yeah and like
everyone is in love with that uh have you played Watch Dogs I have not played
it um I do have a copy I don't know if I would classify what I did as playing it
you benchmarked it yeah but I didn't really get to experience the game hello
what is the highest in GPU I can run before bottle okay go watch my fastest
possible on bottlenecking because it doesn't really work that way um sup
watching the stream from my MacBook bro bro bro do you see game consoles ever
equaling PCS for price to Performance yeah they're pretty much much there
right now PS4 is very competitive price to performance- wise with a low-end PC
Xbox one maybe not so much yeah maybe not PS yeah computex Maxwell releases I
don't know I have to leave but I'm waiting for one question that I have to answer what would you recommend nope
single 780 single 780 are you getting the Razer Blade 14 soon yes uh theyve
finally confirmed we are getting one soon what drink do you get at Tim
Horton's chocolate milk really you go to
every time you go to Tim Horton's to get chocolate milk I don't drink coffee
right but no if like if everyone's going
to two Mortons oh and then I'm like I want to get like a a meal or whatever
and get chocolate milk with it because there's like nothing else there I don't want to get pop I like the lemon ice tea
I didn't even know they had that but yeah know I'd probably still get chocolate milk chocolate milk is pretty
much the best thing that ever happened to humanity ah let's not debate that cuz
that LE
immediately opinion on iOS being confirmed I think that it's not very
unexpected it's another mobile oper yay it's going to be like the other
one except slightly more different you probably could have confirmed iOS 8 on
like iOS 4 like it's going to come at some
point um bye everyone any idea how valve
will address the issue of Windows games not working on Linux well there's not a whole lot they can do it's up to the
individual developers whether or not they make the game work on Linux there
technically stuff they could do is home streaming the only option home streaming
is a fantastic option if that's the only option who cares that's a great option
services like wine and stuff you have to go get out of here which make Windows
games work on Linux I'm tired of could technically build something better if they wanted to
bye all right what do you think about the Titans Z I think I already answered
that one since we can join multiple groups now people are just joining
whatever and getting email invites for explore that's interesting I guess
that's what's going on over there I got 99 problems but a g750 Jay-Z ain't
one uh Demitri asks why no 1080p for the
lancho archive great question uh we switched from streaming at 1080 to 720
back when we were having bandwidth cap issues with our ISP um there is actually
technically no reason why we couldn't stream at 1080 now and then the archive
would be at 1080 all right so I think let's call
that pretty much it for the W show today thank you guys very much for tuning in I
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