The WAN Show: Steam OS, Console & Controller, AMD R9 290X & GUEST Austin Evans - Sept 27, 2013
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show covering everything that's hot and new and interesting whether it's on the
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gaming side technology side or just introducing the show which I realized we
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never do which we did last week did you
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oh okay oh wait introducing the show is in like this is the W show yeah like
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like what exactly are you watching right now and why why would you possibly care
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about it it's sort of uh sort of an important thing but yeah there you go so
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guys we have a ton of like just
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completely ridiculously crazy topics
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this week extremely excited about them U we have
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our special guest Austin Evans AKA
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Duncan 3333 on YouTube if you've never heard of
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him before then go go check him out because he's a sexy beast and he's going
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to be joining us in about 25 minutes on the show to talk we hope well okay he
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just fried the outlet that powers his computer so I guess he's probably
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looking for an extension to right now but and I I'll be quoted on this no
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self-respecting geek should ever be without a reasonably nearby extension
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cord so Austin you better have one uh so
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we're going to have him on as a guest he was with me in Hawaii so yeah he says
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all should be good now had to switch to extension cables yeah yeah there you go
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man um so he was with me in Hawaii and saw all of the demonstrations and
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presentations the live one which everyone saw and the NDA one which we
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cannot talk about AMD won't even tell us what the NDA date is for the NDA it's
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like w just to be determined Beast so we're going to talk about that we're
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also going to talk about the steam Triple Threat announcements go boom okay
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so the first one was Steam OS which was in my opinion the biggest one because
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the next one people kind of already knew but Steam OS is a Linux platform that
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steam is kind of editing to themselves we'll go into that in more depth later
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and then Steam Machines which are the the steam box that people were talking
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about forever there's more information about that and then a steam controller
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that doesn't have thumb sticks it has
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touchpad small small head explosion I mean my head's exploding but not
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necessarily for the reasons that the other two made my head explode other
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things that did make my head explode though NVIDIA has come out and said look
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we're going to give better to sport to Linux and that is obviously a huge deal
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and who knows maybe slightly related to that more on that I'm we're teasing the
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topics you know we can't tell you everything right now and the chaos
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Computer Club has broken the fingerprint scanner on the iPhone 5S already but I'm
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going to play Devil's Advocate a little bit when we're discussing this because I don't necessarily think that's that big
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of a deal so without further Ado here's the intro and a short word from our
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jump right into our first topic which isn't one that we teased Surface Pro 2
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it's a thing it it's a thing and it's and it's more of an interesting thing
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than I think the original one was because they fixed a lot of those kind
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of glaring problems the battery life is way better um color accuracy is better
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on the screen which is interesting but already had a pretty good screen yeah it
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was okay I mean the thing to me that's uh that's actually more interesting here
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is not only Surface 2 is coming and has
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a more color accurate screen but or rather Surface Pro two Surface 2 which I
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guess they would call surface rt2 if Surface RT didn't have such a terrible
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terrible reputation um is also coming and is also getting a 1080p screen
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upgrade okay so now both Surface Pro 2
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and Surface 2 the RT version which makes
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makes the naming very confusing are going to have 1080p screens uh there's a
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variety of other improvements so guys the original article here is from and
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Gadget but I think the biggest ones are going to be well Haswell Haswell is huge
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for Surface Pro 2 I mean uh we're looking at I think they're quoting so
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double digits better performance so 20 to 30% better per performance something
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along those lines and a
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75% better battery even when Surface Pro
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first launched we both talked about we're interested in this one CU it's an
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interesting product but we're interested in when it comes out with Haswell yes we
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said that like way back so it now that's here and that's actually really cool and
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I mean this is part of the uh well what this does is I guess it validates um it
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validates Intel's approach with Haswell where they came out and they said look
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it's well they didn't come out and say it but it was pretty obvious this is not
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uh an Enthusiast desktop gaming CPU that's not what this is for uh what this
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is for is it's for Energy Efficiency
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particularly U making it more scalable down to much smaller form factors so uh
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Microsoft has made some other improvements to the device as well so
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for example there's a new power cover that actually improves battery life by 2
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and 1/2 times so if we do some quick math Here original surface was good for
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sort of three and A2 to 4 and 1/2 hours of battery which is not enough for a
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tablet so 75% better puts us around 6 and 1/2 hours battery and then the 2
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half times would put us around 15 to 18 hours of battery like 15 16 hours of
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battery now we're talking yeah that gets a lot better now we're talking this is a
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productivity device cuz to me that was the appeal of Surface RT for that matter
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and surface was that now all of a sudden it's a a mobile device that is genuinely
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genuinely portable and tablety but also genuinely productive um and and I mean
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here's the thing though is actually this isn't on our this isn't really on our
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topics but I want to I want to discuss this so okay Surface 2 Surface Pro 2
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okay it's got better battery life it's got an okay screen uh the new T the new
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type cover which is the cover that sits on it that actually has a tactile
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keyboard so not the touch cover which was just touch sensitive is back lit now
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and slightly thinner and it's slightly thinner so so there's all these things
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but realistically if you wanted something that was in between ablet and
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a laptop nowadays do you just pick up a convertible so something like this where
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you flip the screen around boom if you really wanted a Windows 8 tablet now you
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have one and like there is situations where a tablet would be better if you
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want to be able to walk around I've used this like four times now since the last
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time I talked about this when I created a video before I left I think I said three times and I used it like this once
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on my trip I was like watching Netflix videos and I put it up like this cuz
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that was slightly more convenient in that scar personally I don't really care
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but I have seen like uh I used to work in a like a warehouse type thing and one
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of the guys bought a one of those old HP
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spin around they can't see your hands when you put them down there there we go
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old HP laptops where you could take the screen and spin it around like this
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terrible little hinge in the single hinge in the middle yeah he'd have one
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of those that he could walk down and write notes down okay cuz that was
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better for him so so maybe it's not the best use case for you or me I wouldn't
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care but it might be a better use case for some people out there and the pro
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two still has the stylus whereas the Surface 2 um does not come with a stylus
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I mean the pricing is uh okay hold on let's let's finish talking about it a
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little bit more so um they've improved the kickstand so the kickstand I
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actually liked the kickstand cuz their whole thing with kickstand was that they
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wanted it to feel like like a car door was what they compared it to you know
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SH now has two settings so instead of
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being stuck at the like the one angle the only one
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Angle now you can actually adjust it to a couple different angles I mean this is
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a problem that is that not only plagued Surface Pro but also other convertibles
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like I've actually grown to really like Dell's implementation of their
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convertible uh tablet notebook thing convertible Ultrabook I guess that's
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what it's called sorry sorry for anyone in didn't tell who's watching uh it's not a tablet it's not a notebook it's an
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Ultra Book um so convertible Ultrabook I mean but uh we have a Sony voo du 13 did
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you check that thing out no it's it's only one angle the uh electronics are
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actually exposed when the Hing is open okay it doesn't close so that the glass
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of the screen can go down on top of the keyboard and it can be protected on both
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sides the screen stays up even when you
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close it uh so it's just a tablet or just a tablet that's propped up like to
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me that's not really convertible yeah I like that style more I think this feels
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better to me or something like Lenovo Yoga where it has the
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3 um so so I mean that's that's sort of
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my take is do you want to go Surface 2 where you get the thinner form factor
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cuz it really is you're getting great battery life out of it if you go
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something like a battery cover um or do you want the slightly bulkier but
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potentially more versatile I mean this is going to have a better keyboard than even the the type cover uh it comes down
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to what you want to choose and I I mean I think if you put Surface Pro in the
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context of pricing it compared to a
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convertible Ultra Book it starts to get
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more appealing yeah if you if you compare it to other tablets not so much
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so at $8.99 for a 64 gig 4 gig RAM
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version and it scales up to I think 512 and 8 gig if I recall correctly don't
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quote me on that though uh so that starts at $900 that is an extremely
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expensive 64 gig tablet but it comes with a 1.6 GHz Core i5 has well
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processor in it which makes it dramatically more powerful
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than your other um but but then I mean
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if you look at something like this or something like an Aspire S7 or a super
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notbook you're paying over $1,000 for sure but then it probably doesn't come
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in such a low spec config so it it comes down to your needs but Surface Pro 2 is
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to me a really important step because Surface Pro made no sense due to its low
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battery life Surface Pro 2 now we could
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actually go okay yeah there's a scenario for this yeah there's a person that this
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product fits with um so that that makes
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me feel a lot better about the direction Microsoft's heading in terms of product
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I mean the funny thing is is Apple's the
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only one that ever really does it where they launch a product MacBook Air iPad
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iPhone they launch a product that's actually ready for prime time everyone
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else seems to be content to kind of go let's create like like a like a
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v0.5 you know Samsung Galaxy S yeah the
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first one sucked um and like this when it came out we knew that the the good
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one was going to be Haswell we knew Haswell was coming in like eight months
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or nine months or however many like it was months not years so we knew Haswell
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was going to be more power efficient we knew that this product was a stop Gap
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like let's get something out there even though Microsoft must have known that it
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that it didn't make the most sense in the world so so it's like we but we let
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everyone else get away with this whether it's I mean the original ASUS Zen book
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was the terrible the touchpad was broken on it yeah and and we but but we let
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them get away with it so let's give Microsoft sort of the benefit of the doubt here let's let them get away with
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this one uh Surface 2 is interesting as well so it gets the 1080p screen upgrade
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it's only 450 bucks which is really tablet priced um and it comes with a
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Tegra 4 processor So based on my
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experience with Tegra 4 so far Beast
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yeah loving it oh I forgot to mention Surface Pro 2 supports 4K output yeah 4K
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but but at 30 HZ or 24 HZ or whatever um
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so so Surface 2 is interesting if you're willing to deal with the whole um you
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know Surface RT or Windows RT thing to
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me the the most offensive thing about
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about about like Metro apps or modern
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modern UI apps is that it just feels
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like um not a lot of thought was put into some of them like for example the
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the default photo viewer on Windows 8 no
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is is is just one of the worst experiences you could possibly have so
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here I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to open something sort of open with and
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I could share my screen with you but but I'm not going to so I'm opening with the
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photos up and I just want to show you guys like I still can't figure out like
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how to get to all the other all the other pictures that are in this folder
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like they're just they're just not here and like how do I control it like I can
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okay so I can rotate delete crop and set as and like do a slideshow well can you
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know like it's just not like like how do
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I control it with the mouse can I you know there's like little tiny buttons
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over here that like it just feels like okay this was meant to be used one way
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and that is as like a picture frame basically as like a photo frame and like
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okay oh yeah and when you get here it's like okay well like now now what now can
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I so I have to swipe in over here I have to use their like their multitasking UI
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here using this screen with a mouse and keyboard is is like is redonkulous it
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just it's it's not I mean it comes down to my complaints about Windows 8 in
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general um and I really don't feel like 8.1 has really addressed any of them it
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fixed a few things but like yeah but I'm
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I'm still not that happy that's why it's 0.1 didn't really go that far all right
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so speaking of things that didn't go that far um Apple's efforts to make
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their new phone have you know the most most advanced uh touch identification
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technology ever ever ever so this is
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from the chaos Computer Club CCC
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dode uh the Biometrics hacking team has
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broken their uh has broken their security in
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two days and and like a large part of
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that from from what I could glean from the article a large part of that was
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like they probably didn't get it on the exact first
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day and like they probably didn't work that hard like it yeah it was not hard
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for them to do so um you know what I just realized the I never changed the
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twitch thing when show now Tech and news
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I should just like update that on the uh on the whole twitch thing um so I want
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to play for you guys just a little bit we're not going to watch the whole thing again but we watched this video back
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when I um oh no this is a different video this is this is them breaking okay
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this is their video so I'm just going to turn the sound off it's only about a
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minute long but but basically it's similar to The MythBusters well he
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doesn't show like The Creation everything but what what he shows here is he's putting in his fingerprint with
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his uh pointer finger and then what he does is he puts the printed fingerprint
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onto his middle finger and then logs in with his middle finger that should not
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work you have unique fingerprints on each one of your fingers right so
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basically what um so so what they did in
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the MythBusters episode was they just created um like fake fake finger skins
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that work that's what they did here and then and then they even went as far as
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to just use like a piece of plastic and then just lick it and put that on there
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um and I think they just printed one out and then cut the piece of paper and Li
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the piece of paper and put they did that one so so basically what what we what
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we've determined here and what what the chaos Computer Club is saying is like
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have they done anything here in terms of you know subdermal scanning and all the
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stuff that they're talking about it looks like it's just a higher resolution
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fingerprint scanner yeah which isn't a bad thing no but it's not as cool as
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they tried to make it sound I mean it's one of those okay here I'm going to play
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Devil's Advocate and I'm going to say it doesn't matter why because it's because
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it's totally irrelevant unless you are okay it's irrelevant to you and it's
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irrelevant to me it might not be irrelevant to the president of the
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United States of America for example someone where yes that's why I actually
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put in here um are we getting one it would be cool to see cuz I I would like
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to actually have a video yeah I'll buy one okay I'm going buy one I want to try
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and have it where I have to try and steal your fingerprint somehow and then
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create one and log into your phone because I would like to see how easy it
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is our new camera is here so uh Diesel's going to drop it off on with me on
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Saturday so I can play around with a little bit so what I'm thinking is maybe I just either with your phone or with
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your or with that camera you should try to blog the process and now that I'm
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aware of it just like on the MythBusters thing I will I'll try not to leave Clean
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fingerprints all over the place because if you're someone that's that worried
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you should be actively trying not to leave Clean fingerprints off exactly so
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let's find out if he can if he can actually legit break it and uh that'll
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be a really fun experiment but um I mean
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I I I I definitely hear where you're coming from the chaos Computer Club is
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basically saying that fingerprint Biometrics and a few other different
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types of Biometrics are just not as secure as they are put out to be so
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people are assuming no one's going to be able to get this unless they have my
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finger and that's not true that's what they're trying to say and and that is a
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really good message because while I still don't think it matters because if
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you're worried about your little brother breaking into your phone and texting
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your friends you know the pictures of you that you hide somewhere else but he
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figured out where they are because he's the creepiest little brother ever that's disgusting um so if you're worried about
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something like that I think it's enough yeah whereas if you're worried about you
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know critical company data you work for a multi-billion dollar company a pass
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phas is still the way to go yeah so that
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is like a nice long string of it doesn't have to be random characters it can be
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you know um I really love my son and
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wife you know heart that is a very
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strong password it is so there you go
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guys um our guest is going to be joining us in about 5 minutes so why don't we do
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a quick Twitter Blitz guys hit us up with any questions whether it's about my
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trip to Hawaii whether it's about um you know I I know there were a lot of
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questions about Slick's uh co-host last week so if you have any clarifying
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questions yes he is the firefighter from the io safe video so I will say that
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much and no that was not a costume he is a legit firefighter you saw in the video
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he was like in the fire yeah they don't let just anyone do that we were being
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very closely supervised he was he was grabbing pallets that were on fire and
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putting them on top of the nas Forest yeah so let's just let's go ahead and uh
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hit the wow 52 interactions all right um
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sup n12 or NFP you know what I'm behind the mic today so I'm going to get you to
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answer these so uh I would go NF wait what would 140
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mm be better for a cooler rig yeah 14
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140 mm would be better um but then you're dealing with 120 mm fans in the
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question but I would say nfff 12s yeah nfff 12s are just kind of the boss yeah
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NF 12s are pretty sweet uh we ordered an XA 20 from Canon something that I can
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use but that is not the one we're currently on we just aren't very good at
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setting it up that's why it looks different we're on the fs700 right now
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uh news on the cat um unfortunately no I
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set up some food and water um and a little bed for him in my garage when I
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went away and I left the door open but like with tires barricading it because
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we were leaving our our back door open and a coyote came into our house and
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like ate all the cat's food and all our cereal and stuff so um so anyway so I so
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I left that for him and then I left my my iPhone set up with a time lapse um
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like taking a picture every minute of the food and um uh rocket didn't come
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back for it no one came back for it so I think he's I think he's gone although at
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the same time like while it totally sucks for the people that are freaking
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out um Rocket's kind of the biggest badass of a cat I've ever met in my life
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so so he's probably doing okay for himself he might be out there he might
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be okay he's uh super careful he's he's
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super cautious um and uh hope he's okay
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yeah I I really hope he's okay I hope someone stole him that's what I hope for
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at this point yeah to be honest you know I hope someone has him and he's safe
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that's that's all I really want now uh what do you think of GTA 5 having
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microtransactions I I think it's necessary I mean you look at how much
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was spent on the development and you can kind of go oh well they spent $ 250
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million and they made back and they made it back in hours or or whatever you
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might want to say about it but they have to be profitable enough for when they're
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not making GTA 5 and when they're developing GTA 6 and all the lapse time
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in between when they're not actually developing anything and they still pay employees and research and blah or when
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they're working on bug fixes or improving the content that's within GTA
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5 or whatever else they want to work on maybe who knows maybe they want to try
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something that's not GTA they do they need I know that but what if they want
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to try something that's not GTA that they that they don't have any previous
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Revenue to draw upon companies have to make money y they have to make money you
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don't have to buy in-game items I didn't know that GTA was going to have
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microtransactions yeah personally to be completely I wouldn't be surprised if
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they do I don't know what they would I don't know what they would have that would be microtransactions I'm not
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surprised um okay used to be something
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something something yeah uh okay well oh
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GTA online does oh GTA online has microtransaction that makes a lot more
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sense makes so much more sense that makes so much more sense uh GTA online
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again well everything I said before GTA online yeah same thing and even more so
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because when you actually have servers that you're running and maintaining and
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you're continuing to develop new content which was a promise that they have for G
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online then what else are you going to do I prefer microtransactions to monthly
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subscriptions I'll say that do you prefer the like free-to-play
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microtransaction style not necessarily
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so you prefer a single upfront cost with microtransactions after that I think
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that's my that's my Preferred Choice
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yeah I just yeah yeah um your guess on
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the price of R9 290x you know what that's that's a very fair question
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because I don't know so I can talk about it um my guess would be pretty much what
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you're saying um I would be surprised if they come in under $599 though because
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based on the rumored performance which
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you can go out and find because I'm not going to talk about that cuz I've seen
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Performance Based on the rumored performance and how it'll line up I
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think that um they could price it kind of at whatever they wanted to based on
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the current landscape and I suspect someone like NVIDIA is probably kind of
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sitting there waiting for them to show their hand and we're going to see we're
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going to see some aggressive price movements over the next little bit and then things are going to settle in until
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Maxwell launches in q1 yeah how do I
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install a program when I do a clean install of Windows 8 I don't care what I
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have to do I just want it done huh I'm not sure sorry sorry 98 not sure what
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the question is but 98 98.com n n
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it uh is it worth the money if I can get a690 for the same money I don't know man
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um let's wait until we why don't we wait and see what the benchmarks look like
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got a sound problem volume decreases randomly even if I disable the Windows
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Comm communication thing I think there's a global setting for that that's not
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just Windows communication you might want to go go check into that apparently
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I look like Michael Bolton okay sorry to hear that um do you want to do you want
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to fire up our call with Austin cuz he's going to be joining us hopefully in
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about one minute here so we're really excited about that all right nice seeing
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you guys live great job on the show thank you was watching Tex indicate
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Logan's a good guy I have no problem telling people watch Tech Syndicate
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because uh yeah he's a good guy I was sorry he wasn't able to be at the GPU 14
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event from AMD I'm not sure if he got an invite or maybe they they missed him but
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I mentioned him while I was there so hopefully it was just an oversight and
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it doesn't happen again or he was busy or something um any details on the
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mysterious 290 um I can say that it's mysterious I
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can say that it's if there was an r9290
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non X that it would probably be closely related to a
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290x what do you think about the new Steam controller more on this later yeah
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uh we're ready to go whenever ready to go all right why don't we do like a
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couple more Twitter Blitz questions here
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um GTA what game are you waiting for Star Citizen if you guys check out my
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Vlogs from the AMD event I met okay I
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got to I got to talk about this for like a minute or so and you know what we'll probably bring Austin on in the middle
25:20
of it cuz he was he was filming my fan girl moment yeah I know so okay guys I
25:25
met Chris Roberts Who is the uh the the
25:29
guy behind Star Citizen so formerly of wing commander and freelancer which is
25:33
one of my favorite games ever but unfortunately didn't get any kind of
25:39
sequel or anything but I have it from him him from Chris I get to call him
25:45
Chris now anyway I have it I have it from
25:49
Chris and he's like yeah I mean you could see this as a spiritual successor
25:53
to freelance I'm like that's all I need to hear man and that 250 bucks I dropped
25:58
on my constellation is totally worth it he pulled out like the biggest the
26:02
biggest surprise of for me of the conf
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well okay no mantle was probably the biggest thing okay the second biggest
26:08
thing of the entire AMD event which was the hanger module was updated so you
26:13
could walk up into the turret so I got to hear him on stage talking about the
26:17
turret and you know what the craziest thing about it and let's go ahead and
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let's bring Austin in now was
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um the craziest thing about it is is he live I listen to him Austin are you
26:29
there yeah what's up man hey how you doing pretty good is my audio okay I had
26:35
a few technical issues when I was getting set up earlier we we turned you
26:38
up a bit just now so it should be good but um okay so where where was I going
26:43
with this the turret was amazing and uh oh yeah so after after the show I walked
26:49
up to him and if you haven't watched the Vlog already then you don't know this
26:52
already and I I was like about to introduce myself and he's just like oh
26:57
yeah watched your videos I'm
27:01
like that was that made my month at
27:05
least so that was that was super exciting so Austin welcome to the show U
27:11
Can you take maybe a couple minutes here and introduce yourself for those members
27:15
of our audience who don't already know who you are yeah definitely um so my
27:21
name is Austin um I do Tech videos kind of like uh Mr lonus here although
27:26
probably more of the boring kind of stuff like phones and tablets and that
27:31
kind of stuff but I also do PC gaming and obviously we were both at the uh the
27:35
AMD event actually just yesterday um so
27:39
yeah all right so guys you can find him at youtube.com Austin Evans or
27:44
youtube.com/ duncan33303 the Old Link
27:48
does still work you know what I think I I I don't know if this is in our list of
27:52
topics that I wanted to discuss with you but I want to kick this off cuz you and
27:55
I spent quite a bit of time talking talking about this on the trip um
27:59
speaking of being able to find you at Duncan 33303 or Austin Evans the amount
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of integration that Google is moving
28:08
forward with between YouTube and Google Plus go oh oh you got throw this one at
28:14
me huh yeah because you had you had some really interesting thoughts on this so
28:17
let's hear it yeah so it actually it was kind of interesting because uh we were
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uh yeah we were obviously out in Hawaii we actually on a on a hike so I was
28:24
trying to like find data cuz I just like check my tweets and like Way YouTube
28:28
comments are gone it's all Google+ now we both like what what what huh um so
28:32
basically the idea here if you guys haven't seen is that Google+ has always
28:37
kind of been at least for the last couple years has always been kind of on a collision course with YouTube so
28:41
Google's always trying to you know integrate them more I mean it started
28:45
with little things and now it's kind of getting on to bigger things like for
28:48
example how I was able to change my name is I was able to link it with my Google+
28:52
which now instead of seeing Duncan 33303 on my channel it's Austin Evans um now
28:57
they're just kind of taking that a next step further with the go+ comments so I
29:03
don't think it's a too controversial thing to say that uh the comments on
29:08
YouTube have never really been all that great yep I mean I think one of the
29:12
problems I brought up with you particularly was that um I really hated
29:17
the way that I would reply to a comment someone says something like oh lonus you
29:20
got this spec wrong and I'd say you know well no actually depending on whatever
29:25
this is this is how it is and it would get like you know 150 thumbs up so it
29:29
would it should in theory sit at the top but because of their Decay algorithm and
29:33
because of just YouTube being YouTube it would often get lost and it would just
29:37
fall away and so we'd end up with a ton
29:40
of the same comment about something that the uploader is already addressed so
29:44
maybe maybe walk through some of the changes that they're making to make the
29:47
comments not only friendlier but also better for the uploaders themselves well
29:52
I would but the thing is I actually haven't been able to test them yet um
29:55
I've just pretty much all I know so far as just what they've kind of announced
29:59
yet that it's not even coming out for another couple months right yeah not end
30:02
of year I think end of year yeah so I mean the big thing is that they're
30:07
trying to increase now actually I'm going I'm going to sound dumb here do
30:11
you actually have to use your real name because I don't actually know that part
30:14
you don't have to no you can still use an alias which is great okay so if you
30:19
can still use the Alias that's great but I think the big thing that they're kind of focusing on here is trying to get the
30:24
organization a little bit better like you said uh like I I had the same
30:27
problem I did a iPhone versus Galaxy speed test which by the way was a
30:31
terrible idea but uh a bunch of people were kind of like calling me out saying
30:35
hey there are different screen resolutions and I had to continuously
30:38
like reply every like hour so like no they're not it was runoff screen it
30:42
doesn't matter um so that's probably one of the biggest things but uh what do you
30:46
think about the Google+ integration because I know you've been having a lot of issues with Google+ trying to you
30:51
know get it all worked out and connected and all that kind of stuff I find
30:54
Google+ extremely difficult to use um and part of the the reason is that I
30:58
have multiple YouTube channels which is something that you don't really deal
31:01
with and I have of course not only all the Gmail accounts that go with all
31:05
those YouTube accounts because of that horrible onetoone relationship that they
31:10
forced us to maintain for all that time but also just because I have you know
31:14
personal Gmail this and Legacy and work Gmail that and just random Legacy Gmail
31:19
accounts so for me what I the the difficulty I had with this is I found it
31:23
kind of confusing I find the functionality just isn't as simple as
31:27
used a little bit old school like what's your IQ number ASL you know um that kind
31:34
of old school junk right so to me when I was searching for Austin Evans trying to
31:39
add you to Google Plus to a circle and every Austin Evans Under the Sun except
31:43
you comes up and then I have to like go and like go into Gmail and then like add
31:49
you by email there and invite you I'm just kind of sitting here going you got to I mean you got to be kidding me it's
31:53
not that elegant yet and that's frustrating and I haven't really invested the time into figuring it out
31:59
because I was just kind of playing that waiting game where it's like maybe I can
32:02
just put this off and I won't have to do it and uh maybe maybe Google will just
32:07
fix YouTube at some point but you can see that this has been in the works for
32:10
a long time uh based on things like the fact that they're giving us that they've
32:14
never fixed the inbox which is a terrible piece of garbage um they've
32:19
they've taken away functionality like being able to see our full list of
32:22
subscribers I mean that was years ago um but now we have that that new tab within
32:28
YouTube which is the actually I'm just going to load this up on my screen and
32:31
do a quick screen share here so uh so people who haven't seen it can see it
32:35
but um there we go we've got a we've got a couple of new Windows here so there's
32:39
Community where you can see top fans there's a bunch of videos that aren't
32:42
uploaded yet which doesn't really matter don't worry uh there's creation tools so
32:46
they're really finally starting to upgrade it as part of this whole
32:49
integration thing so I guess I better just suck it up or what some some
32:53
interesting stuff that I noticed too is um you were talking about how you didn't
32:57
like that the uploaders comments weren't featured uh they're going to be putting
33:01
prioritization on uploader comments and uploaders Friends comments so I believe
33:05
you can make a circle of people so if you made a circle for like lanis Media
33:08
Group my comments your comments edel's comments Brandon's comments would all be
33:12
prioritized and then you also have uh additional moderator tools so you can
33:16
filter out certain keywords and there will also which will be which will be
33:21
fantastic automated moderation will be great um and then the the other the
33:25
other thing is the ability to oh crap I was going somewhere with this but oh
33:31
yeah right and finally the ability to use a single go+ account to manage
33:35
multiple YouTube channels that's great for me because I do manage multiple
33:39
channels but I think like the the funny thing for me is I can't figure out
33:43
whether to use Google+ as myself personally or to have Linus Tech tips be
33:48
kind of the overarching one or have Linus Media Group the like I still got
33:52
to figure out and play around with it how I want to do it and it doesn't help
33:55
that I have like a few Google Plus accounts that I sort of halfheartedly
33:59
created and I don't know what any of them are linked to
34:02
so yeah I know I can tell you I've got
34:06
myself set up as a page I feel like pages on Google+ make sense for for us
34:12
um because you do have those extra features like you were saying you can actually create additional YouTube
34:16
accounts and then they can all be managed by a page I don't don't quote me
34:20
on this but I don't believe you can actually do that with a normal profile it has to be run through a page so there
34:25
are advantages to having a page as opposed to a profile and unlike on
34:29
Facebook there as far as I know aren't really any disadvantages like your
34:32
content still Services the same way right it's not like the algorithm is
34:36
kind of like going against you or anything so as far as I've know uh the
34:41
page definitely does make sense on Google plot but they could change that algorithm at any time which they've done
34:46
a billion times in the past and so yeah
34:49
um so let's move into our next big topic which is the AMD mantle API which they
34:54
showed off a new graphics card or seven or however many graphics cards they
34:58
showed off while we were there um they talked about you know game developer
35:02
relationships and and that kind of stuff um but let's talk mantle
35:08
API yes this is a huge deal yeah it was kind of a big surprise
35:14
for me because um obviously we had heard a little bit about it but when they
35:17
actually started talking about it I was like it it kind of really took me a back
35:21
I think it's a good step forward because as you know you can talk to pretty much
35:26
any game developer you know using DirectX 11 is not I mean directex is
35:30
just it's just so I it's bloated floated that's the
35:35
perfect word and so yeah it's it's just
35:39
it's just not the greatest way to get the maximum amount of Hardware sure I
35:42
mean if you want compatibility with you know a million graphics cards and
35:45
everything yeah yeah it's going to be great but do you want to get the maximum
35:48
performance out of all those graphics cards well it's just not really going to be the correct choice so mantle is
35:53
definitely a step in the right direction I think so here's the I mean here's the
35:57
challenge so I had this this is directly from Chris Roberts I was I wanted to
36:01
discuss mantle with him because uh even though most of the mantle uh
36:05
presentation was focused on Battlefield 4 um you know there's going to be other
36:10
games that are going to support it so I want I I just basically wanted to hit him up I was like
36:15
dude why why is it that that games run
36:20
so crap on a PC even if it's if it's a
36:23
PC optimized game and it was developed for PC first compared to what they can
36:27
do on the uh on the on the consoles
36:30
themselves and he was saying well it has to do with the number of calls because
36:34
when you have uh you know a 500
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um H crap what was it uh true what you're are you talking
36:43
about the API calls no no no no okay you know what I'll be I'll be back in a
36:47
moment so you know what go I can talk
36:51
about yeah uh so one thing that I noticed right away was when they're
36:54
talking about this it reminded me of 3D fx's Glide
36:57
if that's kind of a throwback um which which was interesting and people were
37:01
actually happy to see it go away so I found it kind of surprised that
37:04
something like this was coming back but I expect that AMD is going to push this
37:08
really heavily with with games that they're helping sponsor so obviously
37:12
they're behind Star Citizen quite a bit so starti is probably going to be developing for mantle and I think it's
37:17
also going to be interesting when they pull things from console so if someone's developing for console and they want to
37:21
use these really low-level apis with mantle you'll be able to Port over still
37:28
using that lowl API which is really
37:31
interesting because then if you're able to utilize it that's that's awesome but
37:35
then again there's there's there's the great part and then there's there's a surprising part part of the surprising
37:40
part is it's going to be hard to get a lot of developers um mainly on the PC
37:44
side to utilize this without some type of sponsorship or backing because when
37:49
you're developing for this you're going to also have to develop for those high
37:52
level apis because not every card is going to be able to use mantle
37:57
yeah specifically non- NVIDIA cards are
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and non gcn cards for that matter um although on the other side it does work
38:06
with all gcn cards so it's not just the new R seven and R9 series uh so that
38:10
includes like you know 7,000 Series so a
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good chunk of graphics cards will be able to just you know they'll flip a switch and mantle will be able to work
38:18
so that that is good I'd say it's just an interesting position
38:22
that they've taken okay so here here we go so I remember I remember what I was
38:26
talking about with so he was saying that U depending on the complexity of an
38:30
object a a computer's GPU is so powerful
38:33
that it's not necessarily more difficult to render something that's relatively
38:37
simple or to render something that's 10 times as complicated that is not
38:42
actually what's important what's important is how many how many draw
38:46
calls you can actually um that you can
38:50
actually send to the GPU so there's a CPU bottleneck that exists because of
38:54
openg or DirectX or any of those higher level apis that doesn't exist on the
38:59
consoles so even though the consoles don't have the PC's capability of of
39:04
drawing of of uh of rendering these more complex objects so quickly because we
39:09
can we can hit them so many times more frequently well we can we can still draw
39:13
more and we can actually make better use of that hardware and that's aside from
39:17
being able to make better use of the memory itself and better uh and being
39:22
able to better optimize for the architecture of the GPU itself so this
39:26
is this is this is the big problem and that was what Chris talked about a lot
39:30
was how many individual calls you can send to the GPU to get an object
39:34
rendered because we're wasting that horsepower on the GPU by just rendering
39:40
these these smaller objects or bigger objects doesn't matter but being limited
39:44
to how many you can do how many requests you can hit it with at a time so that
39:49
was that was to him the huge thing and I haven't heard any quotes in terms of
39:53
performance improvements that we capable of seeing but with optimization I mean
39:59
we could be looking at well you look at how well something runs on a console
40:03
versus how well something runs on a PC and imagine that guys imagine if we
40:07
could actually leverage that additional power and the last the last thing I want
40:11
to touch on is I think the timing um is really good for this so AMD came out and
40:16
said during the conference that um this is by request this isn't something that
40:21
they're pushing on the game devs like uh fizx for example this is something that
40:26
the game devs have been coming to them and saying we want this we want to get
40:30
closer to the medal when we're programming our games espec especially
40:33
with the position that they're in making the hardware for both consoles that's
40:37
why game devs are asking for this so they can Port out from both consoles in
40:40
the same way which is just and that's why the timing is excellent because now
40:46
you've got two new consoles coming so the game the game devs are going to have
40:49
to be figuring out how to optimize for this gcn architecture anyway so we've
40:54
got that happening and because G cn's been out on PC for almost 2 years now
40:59
there's a fairly large install base there as well which helps to justify the
41:03
additional expense of well adding an additional API as an option not only
41:08
that but now okay maybe now we can move over to other platforms like Linux
41:14
sex H so so yeah so there are a couple
41:18
things that kind of jumped out at me about mantle one of them is is like you
41:21
were saying earlier one of the bigger advantages is that allows you know uh
41:25
games to take better advantage of the hardware and more specifically it's
41:28
going to make it easier for games to take advantage of more CPU cores which
41:33
amazingly enough AMD they kind of have been shipping a lot of CPU cores lately
41:37
yeah so that's actually I kind kind of could be a little interesting kind of to
41:41
come back because obviously the consoles are8 core the higher end FX stuff is8
41:46
core I'm sure we'll probably be seeing eight core apus within you know
41:50
eventually so that's definitely one thing um for mantle for me I think a big
41:55
thing is that really is going to kind of try to bridge the gap between consoles
41:59
and PCs um obviously we'll have to see
42:02
like you said performance and all that kind of stuff but it wouldn't surprise
42:05
me if mantle really isn't actually that difficult to kind of develop for because
42:10
if you're already doing it for consoles um perhaps if mantle is similar to the
42:15
way consoles work and that kind of seems to be the way things are it might not
42:18
actually be that difficult for a developer to say hey yeah we're going to
42:22
go ahead and support mantle um and you know just magically make everything
42:26
better and awesome and all that kind of stuff I mean the big concern I have is
42:30
we're splitting developer resources so I think U Glide is a great example of why
42:35
we moved away from that in the past and
42:38
um are we moving towards even more fragmentation I mean you know a couple
42:42
years from now do we see NVIDIA introduce their own thing now all of a
42:46
sudden do game developers have to support openg GL direct 3D mantle and
42:51
some kind of theoretical NVIDIA one and do we see um and and that's where it
42:57
gets messy but then they have the the the nice very so solid advantage of
43:02
having those consoles is the solution to just abandon direct 3D at that
43:08
point that's I that's like the nuclear
43:11
option I don't know man it's good way saying the nuclear that's the scary one
43:16
I mean um you know from from an end user's perspective if it's well
43:19
implemented Mantle's going to be as simple as like in in valve games where
43:23
you can just drop down direct 3D open G and choose your renderer um mantle
43:29
mantle is going to be that that simple but from a developer perspective I'll be
43:33
I'll be really interested to see how this works out and if we see weird
43:37
compatibility glitches and all of a sudden it becomes yet another bloody
43:41
thing for end users to diagnose so I'm using the wrong renderer for this game
43:46
as long as they don't make it the default it shouldn't be that big of a deal well I think they probably will as
43:50
far as uh because uh it'll be coming out on some games I would imagine that
43:54
they're not just going to ship it and say oh by the way there's this magical thing that makes your game run a million
43:58
times faster but we're not actually going to activate it so yeah we'll have
44:02
to see I mean you know what's funny is we're
44:06
going to have an EA moment on the show if uh if Battlefield 4 doesn't
44:11
automatically run on mantle once it's once it's
44:14
available so I would imagine it would be
44:18
that's kind of a big deal for him so they showed off a slide that uh that
44:21
actually did say specifically that mantle will allow battlefield for to
44:25
utilize eight threads which is extremely
44:28
exciting and also that it's only the beginning I mean uh FPS is the tip of
44:32
the iceberg when it comes to games that EA intends for devel other developers to
44:38
to run using frostbit so I mean by the
44:41
time it's not even a matter of AMD winning in terms of getting it
44:45
implemented game by game but if they can win a couple big engines then this will
44:50
be a thing and it's extremely exciting definitely yeah because not only does
44:54
that have amplifications for making performance better on AMD based p uh PCS
44:59
but also hey you know what you're going to be building for you know frostbite or
45:02
whatever particular engine okay so I'm going to chck a box oh it's going to run on consoles it's going to run on PC
45:07
obviously it's not quite that simple but it all kind of it snowballs and kind of
45:11
helps one thing helps the other thing helps the other thing just kind of improves performance and improves
45:15
compatibility across the board so this was mine and your first time at an AMD
45:20
event um what was what were your
45:23
thoughts what was your takeaway well first of all they had in
45:27
Hawaii which I think was a pretty awesome place I actually had never been
45:30
before so it was a it's a really really nice place that they had it um as far as
45:35
the like the information I thought it was really interesting they were very
45:38
you know technical and detailed and kind of explained a lot um I think we both
45:43
had uh a chance to actually go one-on-one with some uh people from AMD
45:47
and kind of answer some of our deep questions about you know the particulars
45:51
and all that kind of stuff once the actually the cards come out but uh I was
45:54
really impressed I thought that they had they first of all it was a well organized event um there was plenty for
45:59
us to see and do and kind of learn about all the new stuff I like that demo room
46:03
um I think they may have seen it uh in the Vlog did you show that off all like
46:08
the 4K monitors and 4K
46:11
ifinity which was just
46:14
like what is that like 12,000 does like
46:17
12K pixels that would yeah that that would be effectively 12 time HD which
46:24
just mind running off of two
46:28
290x and they I mean it was dir three
46:31
but you know the funny thing was looking at it you could they're playing dirt on
46:35
it you could see like the textures like dirt was clearly nowhere near made for
46:40
4K but because the screens and because the resolution was so like
46:44
astronomically high like like you can look at the text compared to like the
46:48
actual textures and there was a huge difference which obviously I don't think
46:53
a lot of developers are really you know designing for for 12K yeah they're not
46:57
too R but uh it was it was a really cool thing to see just that many pixels what
47:02
is actually that's what like 24 25
47:05
megapixels being rendered on the Fly Just redonkulous um just just redonkulous I
47:11
mean uh when we talk about you know a camera being able to process an image
47:15
like that you know we're talking like you know it processes the image and then
47:20
you know give it a sec yeah um oh yeah
47:23
so they had a few other demos let's talk about real sound a little bit because I
47:27
know okay guys for all of you tuned in don't touch that dial we're not going to
47:31
talk about it for half an hour okay so
47:34
real sound just as a quick briefer is basically a a programmable it's it's the
47:39
equivalent to what a programmable Shader was on the visual side so it's
47:43
programmable sound built into the GPU so that game devs can look at the resources
47:48
that they have available to them and know that they're going to be able to
47:52
program in more advanced audio effects now they had a demo that they were
47:55
running in that demo room which is what reminded me of real sound because otherwise it really wasn't on the top of
48:00
my mind cuz it's only going to be supported on a couple of the upcoming
48:04
gpus even um so real sound um is
48:08
basically a way of in turning sound into more of a physics thing as opposed to um
48:13
running around you know the office you know banging on things to create sound
48:18
effects and then just having a a library of sounds that it that it draws upon in
48:23
a in a given sort of scenario so like games where the swords Clash for example
48:28
it's going to sound like Clash one two or three or heavy Clash one or two kind
48:32
of thing so Austin you heard the thief demo tell me what you think of this new
48:37
way of implementing particularly reverberations in the sound yeah see
48:41
that's exactly it true audio is yeah typically in a game it just plays like a
48:46
you know like a quick like MP3 or whatever and it's very simple and there
48:50
are ways of making the sound kind of seem more realistic like with like
48:53
reverberations and whatnot when you're in you know maybe like a church or
48:56
whatever or eax used to eax used to be
49:00
the the thing that was pushing that forward but that just died in a fire when Vista got launched yeah so but one
49:06
of the main drawbacks is that that kind of takes more of CPU uh more of a hit on
49:10
the CPU and then a lot of times it's like ah we want to H the performance of
49:13
the game just so it sounds a little bit better but this seems a little be a little bit more of a smarter
49:17
implementation uh so with the thief demo that we both listen to um I could tell a
49:21
big difference um it was it was much more like when it was off it sounded
49:26
like uh like you said like everyone was just like talking to the microphone like
49:29
it very flat but when they turned it on you could kind of hear like the audio
49:33
kind of like echoing a little bit around the room hear the footsteps I mean I
49:37
don't think it was this massive Quantum Leap and just like blew my mind but
49:41
compared with it on and off I could tell a major difference and especially with a
49:45
game like Thief which is kind of like you know sneaking around and very sound
49:48
oriented yeah absolutely very sound oriented you know I think another good
49:52
game or a lot of of games that could really uh you know benefit from this
49:56
would be like first- person shooters because you know obviously you're trying
49:59
to listen for footsteps and whatnot and if you could kind of hear them in a
50:02
little bit more detail kind of maybe figure out where they are in 3D space
50:06
just a little bit better I mean obviously you're when you're dealing with headphones you're not you know you
50:10
don't have a 20 speaker setup to you know precisely pinpoint everything but I
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I think it's a step in the right direction I don't know if it was worth
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you know the 45 minutes they spent doing demos on it I mean it's it's cool but uh
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yeah okay I mean I agree with you 100% better immersiveness and anything that
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takes load off the CPU and enhances your
50:31
gameplay experience especially with mantle which
50:37
is going to allow the game to take better advantage of the power of your
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GPU and take better advantage of your CPU by utilizing more cores well why
50:45
don't we just not waste any of that processing power on sound anymore then
50:49
why don't we just have it dealt with by the graphics card so the last advantage of real sound in addition to allowing
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reverberation which is a lot of calculations like more like physics
50:57
sound the other Advantage is that in
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terms of directionality it should be able to be much more accurate than
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something that's relying on something other than the game engine itself to
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give it directional cues so the fact that the processing is going on at a
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much earlier stage in the pipeline is going to mean that cheesy things that
51:17
I've never liked I mean you guys must know this like USB surround sound
51:21
dongles and Surround headphones guys if you're longtime viewers I'm not real
51:26
enthusiastic about them um I mean Austin do you feel the same way or oh yeah
51:31
definitely so this sounds like a much better way to do that so we have a
51:35
little thing that we do called Twitter Blitz and I'd love for you to participate so I'm going to read out
51:40
Twitter questions that are actually intended for you and I'd love you to uh
51:45
to to hit the audience with the answers as fast as you possibly can that's the
51:50
whole objective all right all right let's do it will Blackberry be just a
51:53
company that we used to know or will they make a comeback they will probably
51:58
Fade Out I don't think they'll totally go out of business because they still do
52:01
have a pretty strong hold on the Enterprise and it sounds like they're
52:04
going to be bought but as far as you know people like us being able to buy
52:08
them yeah I think that's about done what do you think of the Note 3 uh I haven't
52:12
been able to really try it yet um well you were hands on you were hands on I
52:16
was there I saw you touch it somewhat although that did actually didn't happen
52:20
so shh uh uh I think the Note 3 is it
52:24
was hilariously big compared to the iPhone cuz I've been using the 5S the last couple days um yeah I mean I'm
52:29
excited um I missed the giant battery and the giant screen of the Note 2 so uh
52:34
all right looking forward to getting myself a note 3 someone's building a
52:37
system what CPU and graphics card for gaming what that's like um what what
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kind of money are are they spending I don't know exactly that's the correct
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answer uh here we go uh someone was
52:51
asking about unreleased stuff what do you think of flexible displays for phones and tablets
52:55
I think it'll be cool but not in the way a lot of people think you're not going
52:59
to have a phone and you just bend it what it's going to be more like is that
53:02
instead of having the display being Square um imagine that the side of the
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phone it kind of like tapers down and the screen follows the taper so uh
53:12
there's actually a shot I think of a CES a couple years ago where Samsung showed
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this off where it's a normal screen from the front but when you look at it from
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the side the screen just keeps on going all the way and wraps over the edge I
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think that's where the flexible display is going to kind more in handy we're not
53:26
just going to you know your your screen your your phone's just not going to be like a like a piece of plastic or
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something unless you have a Galaxy
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S4
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hell okay you Inn never
53:40
mind H YouTube have also discontinued video responses how do you feel about
53:44
that I I'm going to jump in I'm going to say I don't care go ahead I'm right
53:47
there with you I mean didn't they say something about like how the video
53:51
responses were like clicked on like one in every 2 million videos some like
53:56
stupid yeah don't thoughts on YouTube adding a music library for their content
54:00
creators it's good because I'm tired of hearing the same iMovie uh music in
54:04
every single video on YouTube uh but I'm sure I'll get tired of this music as
54:09
well the right direction I'm glad
54:12
that uh does your camera still work uh this is from the Vlog when your camera
54:16
got soaked oh yeah oh yeah it's it's weather sealed it was all good um we
54:21
were just running out through the rain cuz it's Hawaii and it rains like every 10 minutes uh yeah it's good here's a
54:26
great question Scott Horton asks do you think mantle will help with emulating
54:31
the nextg consoles because that's been a thing where you had to have a PC that
54:36
was 10 times more powerful than a Playstation One in order to emulate PS1
54:41
Hardware do you think mantle will make a big difference to that oo that's tough I
54:46
mean o that's a good question theoretically okay so theoretically you
54:51
could kind of take a look back at like uh the original Xbox which was similar L
54:55
based to normal PC Hardware um just because it's based on the same Hardware
54:59
doesn't necessarily mean that it would be able to be emulated as far as I know
55:03
um I mean I don't think it would be a bad thing but if it's based on the same
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hardware and the same API and
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potentially runs on the same Graphics architecture it's not it's not really
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emulation they're both x86 yeah so not
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it's not yeah I doubt that you'll be able to just like load a game up the
55:24
software is still I strongly believe he going to be very much locked down the
55:27
operating system as far as like how you be able to you know you know get the
55:31
Xbox One operating system PS4 I I don't think it's a bad thing but I don't think
55:35
it's just going to be open season to just throw PS4 and Xbox One games on
55:39
your system anytime soon valid resp sponsor uh favorite retro and non- retro
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game go oh okay retro um can I say Grant
55:49
rismo is that does that count as oh come on you're so young dude how old are you
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dude yeah that that that's like retro for me I played that I was like four or
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five uh and then favorite non- retro
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game um actually I'd probably have to say Metro last Light as far as like
56:04
games I've played recently I really really enjoyed that all right uh last
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one and this is from some jackass that
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uh I I hate that guy um he says you're
56:15
not going to tell anyone what happened in Hawaii right we made a pack and this
56:20
is from Paul Hardware on Twitter yeah no uh no comment on that uh
56:26
there was an NDA sign that evening that uh not supposed to talk about this so no
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it's didn't happen Paul uh I'm sorry but
56:34
please don't talk about this anymore it was yeah just know yeah it it was it was
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super homo so um basically yeah like
56:43
full homo okay so um to talk about it
56:47
did you sign The Pact or did you just like ghost I signed the pack man I
56:50
signed that P we all signed the pack and the fact that Paul's even talking about
56:54
it like he's opening himself up to like some serious legal ramifications because
56:59
part of the pack was to not talk you don't talk about fight CL two rules
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first two rules two rules inherently
57:06
teach you to break rules I don't care
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well no you you don't know you don't know I'm just saying you don't know how
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homo it was let me put it this way it's almost
57:18
as homo as when we spend time together wow that's pretty intense yeah it's
57:22
intense homo holy cow so uh so anyway enough talking about Homo Austin if you
57:27
want to please please plug your stuff because if a few people don't okay that
57:33
that was did I violate the
57:36
pact I think it did okay dude talk up
57:41
your YouTube talk up your Twitter I want our live viewers to know how awesome you
57:45
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57:50
um so uh if you want stuff that has videos that have absolutely nothing to
57:55
do with we just talked about of text St you guys can uh check me out on YouTube
58:00
youtube.com/ Austin Evans uh I swear
58:04
this the just forget about this last big
58:07
nothing to do there are no videos of that anywhere on YouTube so don't don't
58:12
don't think the look but if you want to check my channel out for maybe other
58:15
stuff that doesn't include Paul and lus uh you can do that so youtube.com/
58:20
Austin all right cool and guys just another reminder is Austin and I are
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so make sure that you're subscribed to both of us so you'll have a chance to
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win one of two iPhone 5c phones we are
58:34
giving away two phones all right thank you Austin you've been a fantastic guest
58:38
there's still a week left on that too so PL time to get in on it lots of times so
58:41
thank you very much and uh we'd love to have you on the show again and it was a
58:45
it was a real pleasure meeting you in person for the first time
58:49
man right man hey thanks for having me and I will catch you later all right
58:52
take care see you all right so let's
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which is why you hear thats right now but uh having sponsors is really going
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to help us continue to develop not only this but more shows um I I haven't
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really talked about this much yet but we are going to uh the the masses have
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spoken you guys want the W show you want a long format show we're going to keep
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doing that but we're also going to be adding um some more targeted focused
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shorter shows throughout the week and I haven't talked to you about this yet but
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I think they're going to end up on Techquickie okay I think that'll make sense so Tech
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quickie will be mostly fast as possible and then either daily or three times a
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week or whatever we decide on updates for certain little news items that we
64:35
keep very short so for instance we could have covered all the individual steam
64:38
updates which would have actually been really nice and much more timely and
64:42
giving you guys like you know a reason to get your news from us as opposed to a
64:45
reason to just hear us sort of wax philosophical about what it all means
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speaking of waxing philosophical about what it all means let's get into the
64:54
steam announcement so number one that segue right that that you've got got
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some pretty epic Segways thank you uh Steam OS boom big head explosion so go
65:07
this one was kind of insane like I I actually was not expecting this one at
65:11
all uh the other two I guessed both of them but this one was kind of out of
65:15
left field at least okay we kind of saw Steam OS coming because we were
65:19
expecting steam box to have some kind of steamy customized OS I just expected it
65:25
to be a like custom version of Ubuntu not its own thing and I expected it to
65:29
be somewhat closed I expected steam box to be a steam box and you didn't build
65:34
your own steam box maybe they partnered with others to build steam boxes but
65:38
like I thought it was going to be pretty pretty hardcore lock down but that got
65:41
completely obliterated oh no you can download the raw source code for this if
65:46
you want and change it in any way you want they do not care which is amazing
65:51
they they even said there uh actually I'm not going to jump to that quite yet
65:54
but like there's a ton of cool stuff so it's on Linux and I know a ton of you in
65:58
the audience that haven't read up on this right now are going oh so I can't
66:01
play like any of my games cuz there's only that's totally wrong because if you
66:05
have your desktop PC which I'm assuming most of you already have you can stream
66:09
Shield style your Windows games over to
66:13
your steam box that is running on the TV which is like amazing so we could I mean
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okay why do people like me say look I'm
66:21
not interested in Linux because too
66:24
complicated and it can't play the games that you want it's not that complicated I have used comp for some people okay
66:29
but the fact that it doesn't you can't game on it is just the stupidest thing
66:32
ever from from my perspective is like look I want the machine that is the
66:36
allrounder that does everything reasonably well and that's Windows right
66:39
now um the fact that you can stream games I mean look at look at it this way
66:43
NVIDIA has invested heavily in this game streaming technology which is
66:47
interesting from a cloud gaming perspective but we're we're years and
66:50
years away from that being feasible but from a local streaming perspective is
66:55
actually much more relevant to me and NVIDIA has shown already that they can
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do this over Wireless there is no reason
67:03
I would want to run my steam box wirelessly if I wire up my house with
67:08
like 10 gabit which is going to come eventually to Consumer grade prices y
67:13
all of a sudden holy crap my Windows box
67:17
lives in a closet my Windows Home Server is now my Windows Home Server and every
67:23
other machine in the house could be running Linux and I could game to my heart's content I was even going to say
67:28
this would be really interesting because if you had say you're a dad and you
67:31
still want to have your your Beast computer because you're going to do
67:35
other stuff like video editing or whatever but then you've got your kids that are just going to game you could
67:38
have like a central Beast computer instead of building Beast computers for
67:43
each one of your kids and then just give them steam boxes which is just amazing I
67:47
mean this is remember when NVIDIA first announced grid this is exactly what I
67:52
was talking about person Cloud compute that's awesome as opposed
67:57
to personal cloud storage which is fascinating and all that and WD has a
68:01
new product coming that we're going to check out that apparently makes it much simpler but personal cloud compute is
68:07
just B so excited about this and I mean
68:10
you know what kudos to valve for taking us in this direction this is such a big
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deal because when they talked about supporting Linux in the longer term I
68:18
went yeah that's fascinating we can run portal on Linux or whatever and this big
68:23
performance hit but now all of a sudden whoa boom mantle hits us this week
68:28
porting to different os's we're not going to rely necessarily on Direct 3D
68:31
or openg GL anymore boom and then the
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fact that now we're going to be able to run our games using streaming from a
68:38
separate computer on Linux so Beast like
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there's a couple other announcements even aside all of that insane awesomeness that you grab right away um
68:47
stuff like uh my my little local co-op
68:50
back door thing not going to work okay great right the game sharing but you
68:55
could so even though you couldn't you couldn't like play against each other
68:58
what you could do is you could have a steam box in the living room and you
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could share your library with a separate account cuz steam still won't support
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multiple logins of the same person in different locations and that's what a
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great solution that is right yeah so so I will have two accounts now I will have
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my account that I don't really buy anything on which is my steambox account
69:15
and I'll have my main desktop account and I'll just share everything with that
69:19
account and that's totally fine I just can't play games concurrently so you I
69:22
can take turns so a buddy over and he wanted to play on my steam box computer
69:26
we couldn't play the same game but as long as we take turns playing different
69:29
games it's totally fine play on the same time I oh man that's great and I
69:32
wouldn't I'd be interested to see if they had the capability to add multiple licenses of a game to a single Steam
69:36
account that would be really interesting that's actually not a bad idea if anyone
69:40
from valve is watching I'd actually like to see that that ties in really well
69:43
with their family options so they have a family options thing where you can hide
69:47
certain games from other people based on the SRB ratings or preference so Hotline
69:51
Miami which is a crazy good game but I
69:54
would never let anyone under the recommended age play because it's nuts
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like this is this is like GTA style where you don't want little kids playing
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this game awesome game dad might own it
70:06
doesn't want to share it with his kid he can now hide it that's brilliant but
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yeah that could tie in with the multiple licenses thing yeah that would be really
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cool yeah um okay so steam announcement number two I guess we kind of talked
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about it a fair bit so Steam Machines um it's not it's kind of tied
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into the first one in a big way to to to be kind of blunt it's not super
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interesting cuz we all knew this was coming yeah we all knew this was going
70:31
to be one of these OMG valve's going to have a console okay yes got it Val going
70:36
to have a console okay fine for interesting things to bring up they're
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going to be shipping 300 prototypes of it this year so sometimes within 2020
70:44
maybe um but they'll be shipping 300 prototypes to people that have completed
70:48
the quest the quest is basically stuff that you've probably already done plus
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play a big picture game with with a controller yeah um there's going to be
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30 of these prototypes that are given to people that are big contributors to the
70:59
community probably people that have made things that go up on the market but then
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um 270 of them will be completely randomly selected out of people that
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have completed that Quest so if you check out um store. ste.com
71:12
livingroom machines you can see everything you have to complete for that
71:16
quest which is interesting um and the non prototype versions are supposed to
71:20
be available sometime in 2014 so I'm expecting somewhere around 2030 um
71:26
that's I'm wondering how valve time is going to play into all of this actually
71:29
because they're they're putting out fairly solid release dates I mean to
71:34
me Steam Machines basically sounds like Windows machines like it it's basically
71:39
just another way of saying it's a computer that will have Hardware in it
71:42
that's going to run the Steam OS and and I I think that particularly when you
71:47
look like a you look at a community like steam um we're going to see a lot of DIY
71:52
a lot of DIY steam machines as opposed to like it's going to I think it's going
71:55
to be a lot like the Hackintosh Community where no people don't buy a
71:58
Hackintosh what they do is they they head over to Tony Mac x86 or whatever
72:03
that site is that's awesome by the way if you ever want to build a Hackintosh just go there it's like done for you uh
72:08
buy the hardware build it themselves and it's a very rewarding experience and
72:12
you're going to get better performance for your dollar and all those great things that go along with that that is
72:17
where things are going to get they actually said so there's going to be a
72:20
valve version and the valve version is going to be highly customizable and you
72:24
can build your own and that will obviously be highly customizable but then the ones built by other people will
72:29
be focused around different metrics so size price um thermal output uh sound
72:36
stuff like that and with a free OS we're going to have a lot of flexibility and
72:39
for particularly for DIY guys we're going to see a bigger price disparity
72:43
between DIY and offthe shelf because with Windows the big manufacturers like
72:48
Acer or Lenovo are getting massive discounts on the software whereas when
72:52
you build one yourself you're paying full retail so even though you're able
72:56
to build your PC for slightly cheaper you paid that inflated margin to
73:00
Microsoft for a standalone OS whereas now when both osses are free now that
73:06
decreases our price even more by by a much larger margin so I'm really excited
73:10
about DIY good point steam machines or
73:13
whatever they want to call them I'm so excited because I've wanted to build a small form factor computer for a while
73:18
but never had that big of a reason steam
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announcement three three um the steam controller so I'm
73:27
going to go ahead and I'm going fire this up for you guys because you're going to need to see it to believe it
73:31
for this one yeah a new way to play your entire steam library from the sofa so
73:36
there's a dog and a cat they cardboard cutouts boom there it
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is I legitimately thought this was the back um especially actually because of
73:48
how where your hand goes kind of works
73:52
and how it looks but um yeah I'm going to keep letting that
73:56
sink
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in so my first conclusion and I find it funny because if you scroll up to where
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it shows the home theater uh oh okay here sorry I'm not on my screen anymore
74:08
yeah go ahead go ahead they have Civ five on screen which I thought was
74:11
hilarious because before I noticed that I was like the only game I really thing
74:16
it's like you can use this controller to play SI 5 then they had S 5 on the
74:21
screen I was like oh someone thought of that okay so let me let let's why don't
74:27
we start with some of the specs because that's really important it's got 16
74:31
total buttons so the trackpads themselves are buttons the touchcreen in
74:35
the middle has four buttons at the corners uh there's a few look more like
74:40
navigational buttons under the screen itself actually here I'm going to I'm
74:43
going to fire that up again for you guys so you can see what I'm talking about
74:47
and um the the real the real killer app
74:50
here is these touch pads so there there's the touchcreen here and then the
74:54
touch pads here and here that have what
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valve is calling the most um the most
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advanced haptic feedback that we've yet seen in a consumer device so to be clear
75:08
haptic feedback if you ever used like a Samsung Galaxy Tab uh 10.1 the original
75:13
one where it just kind of like felt like a big piece of poo every time you
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touched it and it kind of went like when you touched it and it it
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felt like it falling apart uh valves going for not that they're going for
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something that actually will give you
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tactile feedback about not just where your fingers are on the pad and you know
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the curvature will help with that as well but also things like um
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acceleration uh boundaries threshold speed textures action confirmations or
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any other events they're saying these are so Advanced that they're basically
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speakers and as a little trick you could actually have them play music or make
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sound effects if you really wanted to um
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now what I noticed immediately because this was the one that actually out of
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all the steam announcements this was the one where I not only read the the valve
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page but you read the and another article but I went and found like a
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dozen articles because I was like what are people saying about this I read
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hundreds of user comments I actually spent a lot of time this morning looking
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at this and here's what I found user comments people are either saying it's
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bull it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen or they're saying hold on give
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this a chance it's valve they they haven't done wrong by us too many times
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in the past and then there's like the one guy in a 100 who's stoked on it and
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then professional writers basically all opted to say nothing yeah I couldn't
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find anyone who gave an opinion on it and I didn't read every article but they
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were all just like here's Val's press
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release and they just said nothing which to me is is a big indicator that they're
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real skeptical about this but they don't want to be the guy that said it was
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balls and then it turns out to be amazing I I'm going to actually bounce
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back I made the comment about Civ 5 earlier but after typing that in and I
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have I have it here being like you're only really going to be able to play to
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5 but after typing that in depending on how good the touchpads are um actually
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was playing GTA 5 last night and I
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noticed the only way I can aim at people is by pulling the left trigger
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repeatedly which will make him automatically point people because
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without that I'm like I'm wondering can I actually be
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more accurate with a touchpad that's super super good versus I mean for me a
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big problem with joysticks is that every every game under the sun seems to have
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the calibration a little bit differently and and and the and the the response of
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them compared to something like force feedback actually isn't that great no so
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if this between the curvature and the
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haptic feedback like if it gets more intense towards the outer edges for a
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racing game if we're talking almost like fake force feedback and looking at the
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style of these touchpads actually one thing I was thinking about is if one of
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them was a wheel in a racing game you could spin it as if it was a wheel so
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there's there's actually I don't see that being practical but you probably
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you maybe could and and like it's it's it's just and how modable they are
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they're incredibly modable they're coming out and saying they want it to be hackable oh yeah right up front yeah so
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so with it being valve with it being this modable because the mod Community
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is going to go crazy and make this thing nuts it maybe they can pull it off does
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it replace a keyboard and mouse no of course not but they don't say it but you
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can plug that into your steam box and use a couch Master anyway does it
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replace a keyboard no of course not but you could still have something like a
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little wireless keyboard where is ours I think it's like lost um you could have a
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little wireless keyboard with a little track ball on it anyway to me I see this
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not even necessarily as a replacement for something like like an Xbox 360
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controller which is like the finest controller ever made other than the d-pad is kind of a pile of poo um it's
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not a replacement it's more like here's another way and and it will open the
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doors one thing I compatibility tool yeah I don't think they wanted to make
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another like dual Jo uh dual thumb stick
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with the dead and four buttons and two thingies like they didn't want to
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recreate something that everyone has made Under the Sun but with that said
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before I'd seen any pictures and before I'd read any articles the first word out
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of my mouth was Ed when I heard about it and I kind of went well are they being
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different for the sake of being different and then I kind of let myself sort of calm down and honestly I haven't
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even read any of the extra articles on it this is all just stuff I noticed while looking through theirs okay um but
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it's it's it's going to enable like I would never play Civ 5 with the default
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controller but I would play Civ 5 with this I wouldn't want to play a lot of
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simulation it's kind of like when Warcraft 2 came out on Playstation it's
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like ridiculous whereas this might bridge the gap Y and then a lot of
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simulation games like especially freaking Surgeon Simulator like that
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makes so much more sense right than with like it's it's it's interesting so I
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think it's going to open a lot of doors to other things and then stuff like Shooters with the right modding
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Community behind it maybe you can be way more accurate because I have a serious
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problem with controllers right now so
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maybe it will help and maybe it'll help bridge the gap between PC Gamers into
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the living room a little bit more because the second I touch a controller I'm like what is this I don't know what
80:20
I'm doing all right someone someone someone's hitting me pretty hard in the
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twitch chat there lonus what is what does he say something like stop avoiding
80:27
the question do you think it will be good and I'm going to say
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um based on the one person I found on
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Twitter who has tried an early version
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of it so Lord Chris Remo on Twitter who
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says I tried it the button configuration was different at the time but the cursor
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pads worked amazingly well I don't know who this guy is never never talk to him
80:53
no idea why he has you know a 13,000 followers on Twitter or whatever else um
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but he says yes the haptic feedback makes it feel like you're actually
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operating a real physically mechanical
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device not just a touchcreen wow if I
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found someone who tried an early sample and is saying that about it if I
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inherently trust valve which I kind of do yeah um I I you know what here I'll
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go ahead and say I I'll say there's going to be a learning curve because I think we can all agree on that but it's
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going to be usable it it's it's definit it's like I don't even think you can
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debate if it'll be usable or not I would have questioned it at the beginning for
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Civ 5 and other simulation games it'll obviously be better than in my opinion
81:39
than a a a controller with thumb sticks but I I think it'll be depending on how
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good those touchpads are and if you take his word for all the Merit it could be
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taken for umide it could be great but I
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just it's a touch pad touchpad scare me I'm I'm a big advocate of overuse of
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touchpads are ridiculous because when you go to the store and you have to use
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the debit machine and you only have to select what account you want to use with
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the freaking touch pad and it's like why do I have to why do I have to do this
82:05
it's like unnecessary touch sucks but if
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they've done it well then great so I want to move on to this is actually one
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of our one we're running out of time here but I feel like this is probably
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going to be our last big topic this week bit torrent um has a legit leg reason
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for existing that goes beyond like Linux
82:27
dros which is obviously the joke that pirates make is why do you have you torn
82:31
on your computer because I download Linux distros
82:34
um the art is the cash this is this is an article on Venture beat the artist
82:38
the cash register bit torrant releases bundles in Alpha so you guys should
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definitely check out the full article but I'm just going to go back to my notes here really quick um so what
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bundles will do is they will bundle
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content and a payment system now we're not talking payment system like um Cash
82:57
Money necessarily we're talking about some kind of content it could be we're
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talking some kind of content whether it's music or movies or like I mean
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honestly I saw this and I've been thinking about doing like um a vlog
83:10
series or like beh a Behind the-scenes series hiring like a dedicated guy to
83:15
just do that around here for a while but I don't necessarily want that everywhere
83:20
and I don't want and I've promised my viewers that we are not going to move to
83:23
a pay model so I've done those things
83:26
make it like a like a so oh okay hold on so bundles could contain some kind of
83:31
content that you pay for but not necessarily with cash so here are some
83:35
suggestions maybe you pay for it with a like a tweet an email address or
83:41
newsletter sign up a holy crap that's amazing maybe you pay
83:48
for it by seeding although I don't know how I don't know how that could be
83:51
enforced but but all of a a sudden there's a flexibility to the payment
83:55
that comes along with content it's been being said for years that the problem is
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not distribtion yes go okay you talk about it the problem is the dist steam
84:05
has said this a lot um because people have been seeing uh piracy rates go down
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as their games go on Steam instead of being their own launcher like if you
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have to download the executable install itself your piracy rates are going to be
84:18
higher than if it's on Steam because people see it on Steam and they're like
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oh that's easy it's going to work all the time I don't have to deal with all
84:26
these problems but then it's also not DRM down my throat and absolutely
84:29
ridiculous the whole time so I'll just buy it on there's still DRM on Steam but
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it's much easier to deal with um so I'll just get it on Steam so Gabe new has
84:37
been saying distribution is a problem forever everyone knows that the main
84:40
reason things are pirated is because they're so freaking hard to get so like
84:46
annoying it's it's well a large part of the reason a reason that things are PIR
84:50
large part of the reason a reason let's say a reason I'm say we can okay well I
84:55
will say a reason cuz I don't necessarily agree with well as music has
84:58
become easier to get piracy rates have massively gone down that's true so it's
85:01
a large but piracy still exists so let's say a reason I'm still saying large
85:05
until until piracy is gone we can't empirically determine I'm not saying the
85:10
reason I'm saying a large part of how do we know we can't the percentage is gone
85:15
down by so much okay until we know how much piracy there actually is exactly we
85:20
won't know you can pretty can guess but you won't know for sure you can get
85:24
pretty freaking close we disagree but anyway um yeah it'll help yes okay uh
85:31
artists are going to love this because instead of their music like if they kind
85:36
of go okay people are going to download things off off of Torrance anyway and if
85:40
they happen to take that philosophy and go okay well then what I'll do is I'll
85:45
include um in order to I I'll I'll just I'll just SE it out there myself and as
85:49
long as you follow me on Twitter then I'm down then down go ahead have have
85:53
have the song then especially musicians lately are releasing their albums for
85:56
free anyways because they find no point because not enough people are buying
85:59
them especially when they're smaller musicians so if you if you release a new
86:03
version of it every once in a while that requires people to tweet about your
86:06
upcoming concert or to uh link on your
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Facebook to their merchandise store holy
86:13
crap that helps them more that's the future I mean that's amazing so Madonna
86:17
Lincoln Park Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart already using it um Tim
86:22
Ferris says it drove an additional 880,000 Amazon impressions for his book
86:27
in his experience there is no faster method for getting multimedia content to
86:31
the fans this is is just totally gamechanging and I think goes a long way
86:35
towards legitimizing bit torrent yeah that's because For the Longest Time bit
86:39
torr's been like we're not actually bad really we're not just for pirating but
86:44
we can't tell you what else we're for we're we're we're a tool just people are
86:49
there's like four Dudes that released their albums on it like you could
86:53
probably also find them on like YouTube or what billion other places um so this
87:00
is this is amazing it's really good for them I think this week rather than
87:04
trying to go really in depth into some of the other content that we have I
87:08
think we call that it for our major topics I want to I want to Blitz through
87:12
a couple here I mean Blackberry has a potential Suitor um I think what was it
87:17
9 billion or something like that so $9 per share I think it's 47 billion sorry
87:21
$9 per share and um I was talking to Sam
87:24
Reynolds from VR Zone while I was at the AMD event and he was saying uh one of
87:28
the reasons he thinks it could potentially happen in time is that it is
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a Canadian uh interest that's looking at
87:36
them and that actually could save months
87:39
of investigation and Analysis and all that like if they want the if they want
87:43
foreign investors to come in and and own the company which is traditionally a
87:47
Canadian company um I mean that and that
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I think would make a lot of people feel feel a lot better about it as well um so
87:55
that was um that was one of the big things this week obviously uh this is
87:59
pretty funny the fake Apple ad says iOS 7 will make your iPhone waterproof and
88:04
people fell for it so the update claimed that iOS 7 uh will in an emergency shut
88:10
off your phone's power supply and corresponding components to prevent any
88:13
damage to your iPhone's delicate circuitry um so apparently people
88:18
expressed their outrage on Twitter one angry Tweeter said okay whoever said iOS
88:23
7 is waterproof go f yourself um so
88:26
that's that's pretty hilarious and I quite frankly I hope no one watching did
88:31
that because dude or dad or whoever you
88:34
are yeah yeah had it coming for you um next up is auss Rog bench I mean
88:41
honestly we don't have enough benchmarking tools we really don't
88:44
particularly for certain aspects of the system like storage there's a few but
88:49
they're highly synthetic and or or they're expensive So speaking of which
88:52
did we get that figured out with future Mark did you hear back from them yeah I have yeah are we are we doing it yeah
88:57
we're good okay we are we are going to be testing using the upcoming uh the
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upcoming future Mark what is it called future Mark 8 uh so we're going to be
89:04
using that for our storage testing I'm extremely excited about their new suite
89:07
it looks much more comprehensive than their previous ones but right now it
89:11
wasn't available unless you get the Uber license so we've worked out a deal with
89:15
them to get the Uber license so we're going to be bringing you some of that over the next little bit here uh but
89:20
anyway this is unrelated to Future mark this is the Rog real bench and ASUS has
89:25
an FAQ that's on rog. ASUS.com um if you
89:28
just search for Rog realbench free app download you'll be able to bring that up
89:32
or you can check out the uh the stream doc which I'll post in the lonus
89:36
rambling section of the Linus Tech tips Forum but they've got an FAQ here that I
89:39
think really covered all my questions the first or the the second question is
89:44
it's Rog realbench so there must be ASUS favoritism right and they're like no
89:47
open source apps no ASUS BIOS or uh bias
89:51
at all I like that it's open source love it love it I mean this this is one of
89:56
the things that that that I really feel like companies can do to differentiate
90:00
their products that has nothing to do with the product things like even AI
90:04
charge have you ever used AI charge from isus yes works on any computer and
90:08
allows any USB port to charge a tablet it's like oh wow thank you ASUS now I
90:13
now I think of you and I install your app on my computer regardless of what
90:16
kind of computer it is that is that is marketing that is like awesome marketing
90:21
the first that will come to mind when you go to buy something is going to be them so if every if every overclocker
90:25
starts using Rog real bench like that gets that branding out there I mean
90:30
another example our sponsor Razer Razer comms make it for everyone don't require
90:35
people to buy a bright green headset you know not everyone wants a bright green
90:38
headset we get that we we saw your we saw your comments on Twitter we saw your
90:42
comments in the twitch chat does Razer have a not bright green headset yeah
90:46
they do but you know this one happens to be bright green um but but getting
90:50
getting that branding out there is is huge to me and there's only a few benchmarks right now but they're
90:54
committed to continuing and and they're taking user sub submissions for
90:58
benchmarks so I know I'm going to submit a few that I already think are good
91:01
ideas that they could add and if you guys have some open-source benchmarks
91:05
that you guys would think would be a good idea submit it and they'll and
91:08
they're keeping it real and up to date it's x64 only cuz they're like yeah well
91:13
we just think that you need to get with the times if you're running x86 and I'm
91:17
more than okay with love it I mean that's like AMD's 290x no an L output
91:23
VGA is gone and I'm not talking the connector is gone the pins are gone it's
91:27
gone I'm like good because that needs to
91:31
that needs to go away it's done it's done by VGA so I'm really excited about
91:35
that we'll definitely bring you guys a video in the next little bit once we've
91:38
uh had a chance to try it out Twitch TV no longer automatically archives
91:42
broadcasts um that's a bad way I actually yeah yeah that happened last
91:45
week to us I actually spent some time talking to their coo at PA and I have a
91:50
little bit of insight as to why they're doing that so YouTube um has you know X
91:54
number of hours of video uploaded every minute or whatever it works out too but
91:58
they transcode it which even though it's processing intensive dramatically
92:02
reduces the storage requirements on their side twitch just goes here we go
92:07
full Balls to the walls 1080p game stream that ran for 14 hours or how
92:12
right their storage needs were just
92:16
becoming ridiculous last week I went for 12 hours their storage needs were
92:20
getting ridiculous as they've continued to explode and you
92:25
I mean they got to invest in network infrastructure they got to invest in
92:28
processing they got to invest in security and blah blah blah it's like
92:31
look but we bought enough hard drives already everyone just calm down um so I
92:37
I totally understand why they're doing that I he didn't tell me at the time
92:41
that they were planning to implement this but what he what he did say is our
92:44
storage needs are getting ridiculous we have to do something and you can still
92:49
enable them they're just not enabled by default which I think I think is a really good compromise yeah um NVIDIA
92:55
has come out and said um you know we're we're we really want to support Linx uh
93:00
they they've sent out some Tweets we're all about gaming we feel gaming is so
93:03
important uh and lonus torold has actually responded so NVIDIA kind of
93:07
said look 1,000 watt PC will not lose to a 200 watt Xbox um even though most PCS
93:12
aren't running at 1,000 watts and they uh they say they want to support Linux
93:16
in the wake of steam and hopefully they'll be able to leverage mantle or
93:20
some kind of man like technology it's been it's it's apparently been confirmed
93:24
that mantle is open I I wasn't so that's
93:27
my comments uh in the document earlier
93:30
and when I was talking I I got kind of corrected by YouTube but I had no idea
93:34
it was open I thought it was just AMD I thought it was AMD didn't say it was
93:37
open during the presentation yeah that's I watched the presentation was like um
93:41
apparently been confirmed now so I I really doubt really cool I doubt NVIDIA
93:47
would be willing to do let's see let's see if NVIDIA can a lot of AMD stuff's
93:52
open open I know but it's not like NVIDIA really focuses on open CL I I
93:57
know I'm just saying like I'm not surprised that it is that way I just I
94:00
was watching the presentation I didn't say it so lonus torval has responded to
94:04
this commitment saying um you know
94:07
famously lonus tals gave the bird to
94:10
NVIDIA and uh said NVIDIA and I don't
94:14
have live like bleeping out of stuff but you know F you Fu NVIDIA blah blah blah
94:19
you don't support us properly NVIDIA's come out and said look we're going to do
94:23
an open driver well they they they've been it's been publicly known that
94:27
NVIDIA has been the hardest Hardware manufacturer for Linux to work with at
94:31
all so he's basically said look I'm not willing to issue an apology for that yet
94:35
but let's wait and see let's give him a chance and my battery just died so um
94:40
builds of the week I guess let's uh let's move on or do we have any other
94:43
topics that are I I feel like that's not that important that's more I just
94:46
thought it would be funny I should have put it in after there's there's an upcoming uh movie you want to cover that
94:51
while I load up the builds of theek it's not really big deal I was going to bring it up an Afterparty I just put in the
94:55
wrong section but there's an upcoming Hollywood film that is based on the
94:59
great Quebec maple syrup Heist so it's starring Jason Seagal or seagull I'm not
95:05
actually seagull yeah Jason seagull um
95:08
yeah and it's based on the $18 million syrup Heist which is pretty Beast um I
95:13
just wish there was 14 members of the team apparently there was uh 24 so if
95:18
there's 14 it would it would it would be like oceans 14 m Ser
95:22
Edition but oh well that's unfortunate I
95:25
was I was really hoping when I was reading through I I remembered this cuz it's based on a real event I was of the
95:31
week uh it's in the WAN folder Wan folder okay I'll find it um I was I was
95:36
really hoping because I I like reread the old news article when they were
95:40
talking about this massive Heist of maple syrup and I was really hoping it
95:44
was a team of 14 people but it was 24 so it's close enough so I'm I'm calling
95:48
this movie unofficially oceans 24 uh
95:51
because I love the oceans movies and I love heist movies cuz I just think they're so cool me too they're just
95:56
they're yeah they're awesome so we're going to hopefully get to the slide soon
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here yeah no I'm I'm I'm ready to rock I think scene six is not the one okay so
96:04
let's go ahead and remove that let's add a screen region boom add the whole
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screen and boom build logs of the week and well okay let's make it big a little
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better than that all right here we go from the beginning liquid cooled fractal
96:17
by DG so this is just yeah fairly
96:22
self-explanatory it's just freaking beautiful I love that it's it looks so
96:27
sharp it looks so clean I maintain the D5 is the only Pump That Matters and
96:32
it's ugly as all sin when you don't custom mod it but this looks great y
96:38
I've actually seen that quite a bit lately y it's become very popular when
96:41
bit Phenix or bits power did the first D5 mod kit I refused to stock it when I
96:47
was when I was carrying them at NCIX cuz I was like this is stupid no one's going
96:50
to pay that much to mod their pumps but what I didn't think about at the time
96:54
was well hold on a second people are going to have owned D5 pumps for two
96:59
years they're going to have no reason to upgrade it they're going to be redoing their Loop and they they're spending
97:03
less than the amount of buying a new pump on just making their old pump look great and d5s are so reliable I've been
97:08
running mine for years and with with form factors of computers going down
97:12
people want smaller cases to go along with it and you can't really hide them that easily yeah so you might as well
97:16
make it look awesome yeah exactly speaking of looking awesome Dam angled
97:19
fittings that white tube very very gorgeous so that's the Define
97:23
R4 for those of you who don't already know just a great looking setup he's got
97:28
right there all right ultimate cooling machine from Death
97:32
boy hey this is the first tj7 build
97:36
we've featured on the L show I think so we had the yellow one was that tj07 I
97:41
think it was I might be wrong maybe that was tj1 I think it was tj1 or tj1 okay
97:45
maybe so uh do you mind if I take point on this one go for it are those hard
97:49
pipes oh my goodness that's is an amazing build
97:53
beautiful be wait sorry I'm just going to interject one little thing um just
97:57
like always be sure to check this out on the Forum but this guy especially cuz he
98:00
like stripped the whole case himself so he has progress shots of like going down
98:05
to the metal and it just it looks awesome and he's got really nice camera
98:09
so all of his shots look great this is amazing so there's there's a couple things here so first of all that front
98:14
panel that stealth front panel looks fantastic I personally would have left
98:18
this so that I can have front USB or or
98:21
front card reader or something I I I personally did opt to have that still
98:25
accessible on mine I think that's important um this is something I've seen
98:29
done before and I actually wanted to do on mine so this dramatically improves
98:33
the uh the the restrictiveness of the stock grills down here which they're
98:38
very very restrictive and if you do it right you can get it curved just right
98:42
and it actually looks very very very very good um the fact that the case is
98:46
painted means that he was able to paint the grill so that it matches the case
98:50
which is problem I've seen with some people who have done this mod where it
98:53
doesn't match the case anymore these hard pipes are outstanding so that's a
98:57
liquid cooled Rampage 4 uh with what
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what are these these look like they must be oh crap oh they're GTX 680s you can
99:06
tell from the Stacked PCI the stream's so long that by the time we get to this
99:10
part I forget the components yeah yeah it's fine uh so oh man Dem hard pipes
99:14
xspc is sort of a funny Choice cuz it's more value oriented but I'm guessing
99:17
they were sponsor for the build or something like that and it looks really SHP and it looks it goes along with he
99:22
has a very silver like I don't have a shot of his monitors that night shot
99:26
yeah I had to include that but he has a very silver based things so it actually
99:29
kind of works I mean this ties into the uh the discussion you and I were having
99:34
oh oh wow there's another one the discussion you and I were having about how do you shop for RAM these days and
99:38
like by looks yeah Dominator platinums hands down so uh yeah incredibly good um
99:45
but the next one once you jump along thisd this was added because of like
99:50
like it's a nice build okay what's with that fan that's awesome you're going to
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be wondering about a few things the main thing that you should be wondering about is actually that which you got to that
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that are you confused yet this this box
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that goes up here oh well hold on a second this box goes all the way up here
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oh is that all the C wait what what is this okay now now that you've seen it
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and you see where it's shooting out and do you see like there's a cut there and a cut there oh cool is that just
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cardboard something just click forward fine there is his design so he has built
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a vent for the basement that can shoot up and then directly flow air over his
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cards I had to include this build but I also had to include the other builds oh
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cool so this is actually it's funny because this is like uh this is like a
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ghetto a ghetto rig in some ways because this is a very archaic way of doing GPU
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water cooling you can see he's got individual RAM syns on there for the RAM
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components he's got like air cooling sitting over it back in the day we used
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to use like antech spot cools for this um and then he's got individual GPU
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blocks I still have two MCW 60s that you can easily make cting mounting hardware
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for anything you want aren't they over there yeah yeah they're in the pile
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there and at some point I kind of want to do like a dual MCW 60 and my original
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apog liquid cool build just for laws I'd
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want to redo the mounting hardware and then get it like uh coated I get it
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powder coated by Mountain mods or something that be cool although I'm kind of mad them about my case but um yeah
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that's it but I I just I had to include that guy's build cuz that vent is just
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that's so cool what a cool what a cool build what a cool idea I I like that I
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mean it's one thing when we let the manufacturers choose for us how to
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direct airf flow or whatever else but it's a whole other one when we uh when
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we just kind of take matters into our own hands and and customize things like
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that nope this is how it's going to work one quick more thing I don't I think he
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might be looking up for something but before we end here um I also want to do
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another shout out for the boink and folding teams we're doing amazingly well
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I don't have the exact numbers on me right now which wher might try and kill
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me over because he's probably sent them for to me but anyways U they're doing
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incredibly well so be sure to sign up on those teams cuz it's for a good cause
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all right now I have one last thing for you guys and I'm going to go ahead and
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just say this outright um what my motivation is for this uh this is LG's
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G2 product information video uh for all
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intents and purposes the W show is kind of over now but I would appreciate
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very much if you guys would stay tuned for the next 3 or 4 minutes you'll learn
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a little bit about the LG G2 which is their Flagship Android smartphone and
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could very well I mean uh Marcus brownley covered this pretty well in his
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video on the phone but this could very well be very close to what we're going
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to see as the next Nexus device so guys
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watch the video because I told them look okay yeah I will I will I'll put that
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video out there for my viewers to see if you can get us a phone so we can make
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our own video about it because otherwise we don't really have access to phones
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very easily in particular LG we've never worked with them in the past so I
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figured maybe this is a good way to kick things off and so guys if you really
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don't want to watch it then tune out otherwise uh please do please do check
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it out
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here
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oh
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a
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w
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a
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I'm
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all right so if you wow 4,000 of you are still here thank you that's actually
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fantastic because uh hopefully we can try out some of those features I
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actually hadn't watched the video yet to be perfectly to be perfectly honest um
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but we were we were looking at some of those kind of wondering okay well what
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are they I mean the um the voic mate thing sounded to me kind of like sexting
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but like voice like voic mating that's how you got to that I was
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like what are you even talking about how does that possibly we were like we were
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like Whispering whispering to each other during the during the video you know we
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were we're all like hey did you see that wow that's cool uh things like the audio
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Zoom I think that would be cool stuff to just kind of try out and find out if it
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works so we'd love to get our hands on the phone uh without further Ado guys
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thank you so much for tuning into the W show this week I hope you found it to be
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a fun and enjoyable episode if you're just tuning in now or if you tuned in
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sort of later on in the Stream we always upload the VOD onto YouTube and we are
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automatically archiving to Twitch still we have that set now so you can also
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check it out there if you don't want to wait for the Youtube upload but whenever
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the show doesn't get interrupted we can get it up on YouTube really really fast
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as long as they don't uh you know put any of those 18 plus restrictions on the
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videos of us doing so
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K everyone stop asking
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me I get so many messages we should just leave this here
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at the end of every show so people who miss it can just see this yeah and we
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should just leave it streaming okay guys that's it show's over we're just going
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to leave that there so y'all can stop asking us on Twitter we love your
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Twitter messages we just want you to tweet us about something else we could
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actually do that cuz technically what we could do is end the stream now so we have the video file finished then start
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streaming again take off the camera stream so it's not pulling from the mic
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and just leave the computer do this yeah okay maybe like temporary temporarily
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take off twitch AR peace out ever