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show covering everything that's hot and new and interesting whether it's on the

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gaming side technology side or just introducing the show which I realized we

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never do which we did last week did you

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oh okay oh wait introducing the show is in like this is the W show yeah like

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like what exactly are you watching right now and why why would you possibly care

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about it it's sort of uh sort of an important thing but yeah there you go so

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guys we have a ton of like just

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completely ridiculously crazy topics

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this week extremely excited about them U we have

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our special guest Austin Evans AKA

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Duncan 3333 on YouTube if you've never heard of

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him before then go go check him out because he's a sexy beast and he's going

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to be joining us in about 25 minutes on the show to talk we hope well okay he

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just fried the outlet that powers his computer so I guess he's probably

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looking for an extension to right now but and I I'll be quoted on this no

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self-respecting geek should ever be without a reasonably nearby extension

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cord so Austin you better have one uh so

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we're going to have him on as a guest he was with me in Hawaii so yeah he says

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all should be good now had to switch to extension cables yeah yeah there you go

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man um so he was with me in Hawaii and saw all of the demonstrations and

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presentations the live one which everyone saw and the NDA one which we

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cannot talk about AMD won't even tell us what the NDA date is for the NDA it's

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like w just to be determined Beast so we're going to talk about that we're

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also going to talk about the steam Triple Threat announcements go boom okay

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so the first one was Steam OS which was in my opinion the biggest one because

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the next one people kind of already knew but Steam OS is a Linux platform that

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steam is kind of editing to themselves we'll go into that in more depth later

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and then Steam Machines which are the the steam box that people were talking

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about forever there's more information about that and then a steam controller

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that doesn't have thumb sticks it has

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touchpad small small head explosion I mean my head's exploding but not

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necessarily for the reasons that the other two made my head explode other

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things that did make my head explode though NVIDIA has come out and said look

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we're going to give better to sport to Linux and that is obviously a huge deal

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and who knows maybe slightly related to that more on that I'm we're teasing the

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topics you know we can't tell you everything right now and the chaos

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Computer Club has broken the fingerprint scanner on the iPhone 5S already but I'm

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going to play Devil's Advocate a little bit when we're discussing this because I don't necessarily think that's that big

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you're on the go and without further Ado let's just

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jump right into our first topic which isn't one that we teased Surface Pro 2

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it's a thing it it's a thing and it's and it's more of an interesting thing

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than I think the original one was because they fixed a lot of those kind

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of glaring problems the battery life is way better um color accuracy is better

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on the screen which is interesting but already had a pretty good screen yeah it

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was okay I mean the thing to me that's uh that's actually more interesting here

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is not only Surface 2 is coming and has

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a more color accurate screen but or rather Surface Pro two Surface 2 which I

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guess they would call surface rt2 if Surface RT didn't have such a terrible

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terrible reputation um is also coming and is also getting a 1080p screen

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upgrade okay so now both Surface Pro 2

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and Surface 2 the RT version which makes

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makes the naming very confusing are going to have 1080p screens uh there's a

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variety of other improvements so guys the original article here is from and

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Gadget but I think the biggest ones are going to be well Haswell Haswell is huge

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for Surface Pro 2 I mean uh we're looking at I think they're quoting so

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double digits better performance so 20 to 30% better per performance something

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along those lines and a

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75% better battery even when Surface Pro

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first launched we both talked about we're interested in this one CU it's an

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interesting product but we're interested in when it comes out with Haswell yes we

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said that like way back so it now that's here and that's actually really cool and

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I mean this is part of the uh well what this does is I guess it validates um it

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validates Intel's approach with Haswell where they came out and they said look

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it's well they didn't come out and say it but it was pretty obvious this is not

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uh an Enthusiast desktop gaming CPU that's not what this is for uh what this

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is for is it's for Energy Efficiency

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particularly U making it more scalable down to much smaller form factors so uh

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Microsoft has made some other improvements to the device as well so

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for example there's a new power cover that actually improves battery life by 2

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and 1/2 times so if we do some quick math Here original surface was good for

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sort of three and A2 to 4 and 1/2 hours of battery which is not enough for a

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tablet so 75% better puts us around 6 and 1/2 hours battery and then the 2

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half times would put us around 15 to 18 hours of battery like 15 16 hours of

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battery now we're talking yeah that gets a lot better now we're talking this is a

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productivity device cuz to me that was the appeal of Surface RT for that matter

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and surface was that now all of a sudden it's a a mobile device that is genuinely

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genuinely portable and tablety but also genuinely productive um and and I mean

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here's the thing though is actually this isn't on our this isn't really on our

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topics but I want to I want to discuss this so okay Surface 2 Surface Pro 2

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okay it's got better battery life it's got an okay screen uh the new T the new

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type cover which is the cover that sits on it that actually has a tactile

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keyboard so not the touch cover which was just touch sensitive is back lit now

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and slightly thinner and it's slightly thinner so so there's all these things

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but realistically if you wanted something that was in between ablet and

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a laptop nowadays do you just pick up a convertible so something like this where

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you flip the screen around boom if you really wanted a Windows 8 tablet now you

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have one and like there is situations where a tablet would be better if you

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want to be able to walk around I've used this like four times now since the last

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time I talked about this when I created a video before I left I think I said three times and I used it like this once

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on my trip I was like watching Netflix videos and I put it up like this cuz

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that was slightly more convenient in that scar personally I don't really care

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but I have seen like uh I used to work in a like a warehouse type thing and one

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of the guys bought a one of those old HP

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spin around they can't see your hands when you put them down there there we go

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old HP laptops where you could take the screen and spin it around like this

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terrible little hinge in the single hinge in the middle yeah he'd have one

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of those that he could walk down and write notes down okay cuz that was

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better for him so so maybe it's not the best use case for you or me I wouldn't

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care but it might be a better use case for some people out there and the pro

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two still has the stylus whereas the Surface 2 um does not come with a stylus

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I mean the pricing is uh okay hold on let's let's finish talking about it a

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little bit more so um they've improved the kickstand so the kickstand I

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actually liked the kickstand cuz their whole thing with kickstand was that they

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wanted it to feel like like a car door was what they compared it to you know

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SH now has two settings so instead of

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being stuck at the like the one angle the only one

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Angle now you can actually adjust it to a couple different angles I mean this is

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a problem that is that not only plagued Surface Pro but also other convertibles

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like I've actually grown to really like Dell's implementation of their

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convertible uh tablet notebook thing convertible Ultrabook I guess that's

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what it's called sorry sorry for anyone in didn't tell who's watching uh it's not a tablet it's not a notebook it's an

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Ultra Book um so convertible Ultrabook I mean but uh we have a Sony voo du 13 did

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you check that thing out no it's it's only one angle the uh electronics are

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actually exposed when the Hing is open okay it doesn't close so that the glass

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of the screen can go down on top of the keyboard and it can be protected on both

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sides the screen stays up even when you

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close it uh so it's just a tablet or just a tablet that's propped up like to

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me that's not really convertible yeah I like that style more I think this feels

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better to me or something like Lenovo Yoga where it has the

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3 um so so I mean that's that's sort of

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my take is do you want to go Surface 2 where you get the thinner form factor

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cuz it really is you're getting great battery life out of it if you go

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something like a battery cover um or do you want the slightly bulkier but

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potentially more versatile I mean this is going to have a better keyboard than even the the type cover uh it comes down

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to what you want to choose and I I mean I think if you put Surface Pro in the

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context of pricing it compared to a

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convertible Ultra Book it starts to get

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more appealing yeah if you if you compare it to other tablets not so much

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so at $8.99 for a 64 gig 4 gig RAM

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version and it scales up to I think 512 and 8 gig if I recall correctly don't

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quote me on that though uh so that starts at $900 that is an extremely

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expensive 64 gig tablet but it comes with a 1.6 GHz Core i5 has well

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processor in it which makes it dramatically more powerful

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than your other um but but then I mean

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if you look at something like this or something like an Aspire S7 or a super

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notbook you're paying over $1,000 for sure but then it probably doesn't come

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in such a low spec config so it it comes down to your needs but Surface Pro 2 is

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to me a really important step because Surface Pro made no sense due to its low

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battery life Surface Pro 2 now we could

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actually go okay yeah there's a scenario for this yeah there's a person that this

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product fits with um so that that makes

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me feel a lot better about the direction Microsoft's heading in terms of product

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I mean the funny thing is is Apple's the

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only one that ever really does it where they launch a product MacBook Air iPad

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iPhone they launch a product that's actually ready for prime time everyone

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else seems to be content to kind of go let's create like like a like a

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v0.5 you know Samsung Galaxy S yeah the

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first one sucked um and like this when it came out we knew that the the good

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one was going to be Haswell we knew Haswell was coming in like eight months

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or nine months or however many like it was months not years so we knew Haswell

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was going to be more power efficient we knew that this product was a stop Gap

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like let's get something out there even though Microsoft must have known that it

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that it didn't make the most sense in the world so so it's like we but we let

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everyone else get away with this whether it's I mean the original ASUS Zen book

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was the terrible the touchpad was broken on it yeah and and we but but we let

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them get away with it so let's give Microsoft sort of the benefit of the doubt here let's let them get away with

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this one uh Surface 2 is interesting as well so it gets the 1080p screen upgrade

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it's only 450 bucks which is really tablet priced um and it comes with a

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Tegra 4 processor So based on my

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experience with Tegra 4 so far Beast

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yeah loving it oh I forgot to mention Surface Pro 2 supports 4K output yeah 4K

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but but at 30 HZ or 24 HZ or whatever um

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so so Surface 2 is interesting if you're willing to deal with the whole um you

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know Surface RT or Windows RT thing to

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me the the most offensive thing about

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about about like Metro apps or modern

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modern UI apps is that it just feels

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like um not a lot of thought was put into some of them like for example the

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the default photo viewer on Windows 8 no

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is is is just one of the worst experiences you could possibly have so

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here I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to open something sort of open with and

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I could share my screen with you but but I'm not going to so I'm opening with the

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photos up and I just want to show you guys like I still can't figure out like

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how to get to all the other all the other pictures that are in this folder

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like they're just they're just not here and like how do I control it like I can

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okay so I can rotate delete crop and set as and like do a slideshow well can you

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know like it's just not like like how do

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I control it with the mouse can I you know there's like little tiny buttons

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over here that like it just feels like okay this was meant to be used one way

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and that is as like a picture frame basically as like a photo frame and like

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okay oh yeah and when you get here it's like okay well like now now what now can

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I so I have to swipe in over here I have to use their like their multitasking UI

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here using this screen with a mouse and keyboard is is like is redonkulous it

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just it's it's not I mean it comes down to my complaints about Windows 8 in

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general um and I really don't feel like 8.1 has really addressed any of them it

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fixed a few things but like yeah but I'm

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I'm still not that happy that's why it's 0.1 didn't really go that far all right

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so speaking of things that didn't go that far um Apple's efforts to make

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their new phone have you know the most most advanced uh touch identification

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technology ever ever ever so this is

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from the chaos Computer Club CCC

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dode uh the Biometrics hacking team has

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broken their uh has broken their security in

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two days and and like a large part of

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that from from what I could glean from the article a large part of that was

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like they probably didn't get it on the exact first

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day and like they probably didn't work that hard like it yeah it was not hard

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for them to do so um you know what I just realized the I never changed the

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twitch thing when show now Tech and news

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I should just like update that on the uh on the whole twitch thing um so I want

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to play for you guys just a little bit we're not going to watch the whole thing again but we watched this video back

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when I um oh no this is a different video this is this is them breaking okay

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this is their video so I'm just going to turn the sound off it's only about a

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minute long but but basically it's similar to The MythBusters well he

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doesn't show like The Creation everything but what what he shows here is he's putting in his fingerprint with

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his uh pointer finger and then what he does is he puts the printed fingerprint

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onto his middle finger and then logs in with his middle finger that should not

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work you have unique fingerprints on each one of your fingers right so

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basically what um so so what they did in

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the MythBusters episode was they just created um like fake fake finger skins

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that work that's what they did here and then and then they even went as far as

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to just use like a piece of plastic and then just lick it and put that on there

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um and I think they just printed one out and then cut the piece of paper and Li

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the piece of paper and put they did that one so so basically what what we what

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we've determined here and what what the chaos Computer Club is saying is like

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have they done anything here in terms of you know subdermal scanning and all the

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stuff that they're talking about it looks like it's just a higher resolution

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fingerprint scanner yeah which isn't a bad thing no but it's not as cool as

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they tried to make it sound I mean it's one of those okay here I'm going to play

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Devil's Advocate and I'm going to say it doesn't matter why because it's because

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it's totally irrelevant unless you are okay it's irrelevant to you and it's

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irrelevant to me it might not be irrelevant to the president of the

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United States of America for example someone where yes that's why I actually

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put in here um are we getting one it would be cool to see cuz I I would like

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to actually have a video yeah I'll buy one okay I'm going buy one I want to try

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and have it where I have to try and steal your fingerprint somehow and then

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create one and log into your phone because I would like to see how easy it

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is our new camera is here so uh Diesel's going to drop it off on with me on

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Saturday so I can play around with a little bit so what I'm thinking is maybe I just either with your phone or with

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your or with that camera you should try to blog the process and now that I'm

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aware of it just like on the MythBusters thing I will I'll try not to leave Clean

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fingerprints all over the place because if you're someone that's that worried

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you should be actively trying not to leave Clean fingerprints off exactly so

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let's find out if he can if he can actually legit break it and uh that'll

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be a really fun experiment but um I mean

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I I I I definitely hear where you're coming from the chaos Computer Club is

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basically saying that fingerprint Biometrics and a few other different

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types of Biometrics are just not as secure as they are put out to be so

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people are assuming no one's going to be able to get this unless they have my

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finger and that's not true that's what they're trying to say and and that is a

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really good message because while I still don't think it matters because if

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you're worried about your little brother breaking into your phone and texting

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your friends you know the pictures of you that you hide somewhere else but he

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figured out where they are because he's the creepiest little brother ever that's disgusting um so if you're worried about

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something like that I think it's enough yeah whereas if you're worried about you

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know critical company data you work for a multi-billion dollar company a pass

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phas is still the way to go yeah so that

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is like a nice long string of it doesn't have to be random characters it can be

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you know um I really love my son and

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wife you know heart that is a very

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strong password it is so there you go

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guys um our guest is going to be joining us in about 5 minutes so why don't we do

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a quick Twitter Blitz guys hit us up with any questions whether it's about my

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trip to Hawaii whether it's about um you know I I know there were a lot of

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questions about Slick's uh co-host last week so if you have any clarifying

00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:09.600
questions yes he is the firefighter from the io safe video so I will say that

00:19:07.159 --> 00:19:14.840
much and no that was not a costume he is a legit firefighter you saw in the video

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he was like in the fire yeah they don't let just anyone do that we were being

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very closely supervised he was he was grabbing pallets that were on fire and

00:19:20.159 --> 00:19:28.520
putting them on top of the nas Forest yeah so let's just let's go ahead and uh

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hit the wow 52 interactions all right um

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sup n12 or NFP you know what I'm behind the mic today so I'm going to get you to

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answer these so uh I would go NF wait what would 140

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mm be better for a cooler rig yeah 14

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140 mm would be better um but then you're dealing with 120 mm fans in the

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question but I would say nfff 12s yeah nfff 12s are just kind of the boss yeah

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NF 12s are pretty sweet uh we ordered an XA 20 from Canon something that I can

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use but that is not the one we're currently on we just aren't very good at

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setting it up that's why it looks different we're on the fs700 right now

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uh news on the cat um unfortunately no I

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set up some food and water um and a little bed for him in my garage when I

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went away and I left the door open but like with tires barricading it because

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we were leaving our our back door open and a coyote came into our house and

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like ate all the cat's food and all our cereal and stuff so um so anyway so I so

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I left that for him and then I left my my iPhone set up with a time lapse um

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like taking a picture every minute of the food and um uh rocket didn't come

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back for it no one came back for it so I think he's I think he's gone although at

00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:41.400
the same time like while it totally sucks for the people that are freaking

00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:45.720
out um Rocket's kind of the biggest badass of a cat I've ever met in my life

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so so he's probably doing okay for himself he might be out there he might

00:20:47.520 --> 00:20:54.480
be okay he's uh super careful he's he's

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super cautious um and uh hope he's okay

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yeah I I really hope he's okay I hope someone stole him that's what I hope for

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at this point yeah to be honest you know I hope someone has him and he's safe

00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:07.480
that's that's all I really want now uh what do you think of GTA 5 having

00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:10.960
microtransactions I I think it's necessary I mean you look at how much

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was spent on the development and you can kind of go oh well they spent $ 250

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million and they made back and they made it back in hours or or whatever you

00:21:16.600 --> 00:21:23.480
might want to say about it but they have to be profitable enough for when they're

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not making GTA 5 and when they're developing GTA 6 and all the lapse time

00:21:25.679 --> 00:21:31.360
in between when they're not actually developing anything and they still pay employees and research and blah or when

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they're working on bug fixes or improving the content that's within GTA

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5 or whatever else they want to work on maybe who knows maybe they want to try

00:21:37.679 --> 00:21:43.600
something that's not GTA they do they need I know that but what if they want

00:21:41.919 --> 00:21:47.240
to try something that's not GTA that they that they don't have any previous

00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:51.600
Revenue to draw upon companies have to make money y they have to make money you

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don't have to buy in-game items I didn't know that GTA was going to have

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microtransactions yeah personally to be completely I wouldn't be surprised if

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they do I don't know what they would I don't know what they would have that would be microtransactions I'm not

00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:10.000
surprised um okay used to be something

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something something yeah uh okay well oh

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GTA online does oh GTA online has microtransaction that makes a lot more

00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:19.120
sense makes so much more sense that makes so much more sense uh GTA online

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again well everything I said before GTA online yeah same thing and even more so

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because when you actually have servers that you're running and maintaining and

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you're continuing to develop new content which was a promise that they have for G

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online then what else are you going to do I prefer microtransactions to monthly

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subscriptions I'll say that do you prefer the like free-to-play

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microtransaction style not necessarily

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so you prefer a single upfront cost with microtransactions after that I think

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that's my that's my Preferred Choice

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yeah I just yeah yeah um your guess on

00:22:52.679 --> 00:22:57.799
the price of R9 290x you know what that's that's a very fair question

00:22:56.080 --> 00:23:02.679
because I don't know so I can talk about it um my guess would be pretty much what

00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:08.880
you're saying um I would be surprised if they come in under $599 though because

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based on the rumored performance which

00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:13.679
you can go out and find because I'm not going to talk about that cuz I've seen

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Performance Based on the rumored performance and how it'll line up I

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think that um they could price it kind of at whatever they wanted to based on

00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:24.320
the current landscape and I suspect someone like NVIDIA is probably kind of

00:23:22.919 --> 00:23:27.320
sitting there waiting for them to show their hand and we're going to see we're

00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:33.400
going to see some aggressive price movements over the next little bit and then things are going to settle in until

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Maxwell launches in q1 yeah how do I

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install a program when I do a clean install of Windows 8 I don't care what I

00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:44.640
have to do I just want it done huh I'm not sure sorry sorry 98 not sure what

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the question is but 98 98.com n n

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it uh is it worth the money if I can get a690 for the same money I don't know man

00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:55.919
um let's wait until we why don't we wait and see what the benchmarks look like

00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:59.039
got a sound problem volume decreases randomly even if I disable the Windows

00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:02.600
Comm communication thing I think there's a global setting for that that's not

00:24:00.840 --> 00:24:07.600
just Windows communication you might want to go go check into that apparently

00:24:04.919 --> 00:24:10.679
I look like Michael Bolton okay sorry to hear that um do you want to do you want

00:24:08.919 --> 00:24:14.400
to fire up our call with Austin cuz he's going to be joining us hopefully in

00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:18.720
about one minute here so we're really excited about that all right nice seeing

00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:23.120
you guys live great job on the show thank you was watching Tex indicate

00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:26.640
Logan's a good guy I have no problem telling people watch Tech Syndicate

00:24:25.159 --> 00:24:31.520
because uh yeah he's a good guy I was sorry he wasn't able to be at the GPU 14

00:24:29.120 --> 00:24:35.520
event from AMD I'm not sure if he got an invite or maybe they they missed him but

00:24:33.600 --> 00:24:38.640
I mentioned him while I was there so hopefully it was just an oversight and

00:24:37.120 --> 00:24:42.600
it doesn't happen again or he was busy or something um any details on the

00:24:40.679 --> 00:24:51.399
mysterious 290 um I can say that it's mysterious I

00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:53.440
can say that it's if there was an r9290

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non X that it would probably be closely related to a

00:24:55.760 --> 00:25:03.039
290x what do you think about the new Steam controller more on this later yeah

00:25:00.760 --> 00:25:07.679
uh we're ready to go whenever ready to go all right why don't we do like a

00:25:04.679 --> 00:25:10.120
couple more Twitter Blitz questions here

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um GTA what game are you waiting for Star Citizen if you guys check out my

00:25:12.159 --> 00:25:17.960
Vlogs from the AMD event I met okay I

00:25:16.399 --> 00:25:22.480
got to I got to talk about this for like a minute or so and you know what we'll probably bring Austin on in the middle

00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:29.320
of it cuz he was he was filming my fan girl moment yeah I know so okay guys I

00:25:25.120 --> 00:25:32.080
met Chris Roberts Who is the uh the the

00:25:29.320 --> 00:25:36.200
guy behind Star Citizen so formerly of wing commander and freelancer which is

00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:42.399
one of my favorite games ever but unfortunately didn't get any kind of

00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:46.760
sequel or anything but I have it from him him from Chris I get to call him

00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:51.240
Chris now anyway I have it I have it from

00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:55.000
Chris and he's like yeah I mean you could see this as a spiritual successor

00:25:53.080 --> 00:26:00.159
to freelance I'm like that's all I need to hear man and that 250 bucks I dropped

00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:05.799
on my constellation is totally worth it he pulled out like the biggest the

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:07.159
biggest surprise of for me of the conf

00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:11.399
well okay no mantle was probably the biggest thing okay the second biggest

00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:15.480
thing of the entire AMD event which was the hanger module was updated so you

00:26:13.360 --> 00:26:19.760
could walk up into the turret so I got to hear him on stage talking about the

00:26:17.840 --> 00:26:24.600
turret and you know what the craziest thing about it and let's go ahead and

00:26:21.360 --> 00:26:27.200
let's bring Austin in now was

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um the craziest thing about it is is he live I listen to him Austin are you

00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:36.880
there yeah what's up man hey how you doing pretty good is my audio okay I had

00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:40.840
a few technical issues when I was getting set up earlier we we turned you

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:46.279
up a bit just now so it should be good but um okay so where where was I going

00:26:43.399 --> 00:26:51.000
with this the turret was amazing and uh oh yeah so after after the show I walked

00:26:49.360 --> 00:26:55.320
up to him and if you haven't watched the Vlog already then you don't know this

00:26:52.640 --> 00:27:00.559
already and I I was like about to introduce myself and he's just like oh

00:26:57.320 --> 00:27:00.559
yeah watched your videos I'm

00:27:01.080 --> 00:27:07.919
like that was that made my month at

00:27:05.679 --> 00:27:13.760
least so that was that was super exciting so Austin welcome to the show U

00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:17.919
Can you take maybe a couple minutes here and introduce yourself for those members

00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:24.279
of our audience who don't already know who you are yeah definitely um so my

00:27:21.840 --> 00:27:29.120
name is Austin um I do Tech videos kind of like uh Mr lonus here although

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:33.279
probably more of the boring kind of stuff like phones and tablets and that

00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:39.480
kind of stuff but I also do PC gaming and obviously we were both at the uh the

00:27:35.919 --> 00:27:42.279
AMD event actually just yesterday um so

00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:48.360
yeah all right so guys you can find him at youtube.com Austin Evans or

00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:50.919
youtube.com/ duncan33303 the Old Link

00:27:48.360 --> 00:27:54.200
does still work you know what I think I I I don't know if this is in our list of

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.519
topics that I wanted to discuss with you but I want to kick this off cuz you and

00:27:55.919 --> 00:28:01.399
I spent quite a bit of time talking talking about this on the trip um

00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:08.120
speaking of being able to find you at Duncan 33303 or Austin Evans the amount

00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:10.559
of integration that Google is moving

00:28:08.120 --> 00:28:16.159
forward with between YouTube and Google Plus go oh oh you got throw this one at

00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:19.519
me huh yeah because you had you had some really interesting thoughts on this so

00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:22.760
let's hear it yeah so it actually it was kind of interesting because uh we were

00:28:21.080 --> 00:28:26.159
uh yeah we were obviously out in Hawaii we actually on a on a hike so I was

00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:29.480
trying to like find data cuz I just like check my tweets and like Way YouTube

00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:34.559
comments are gone it's all Google+ now we both like what what what huh um so

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:38.399
basically the idea here if you guys haven't seen is that Google+ has always

00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:43.200
kind of been at least for the last couple years has always been kind of on a collision course with YouTube so

00:28:41.840 --> 00:28:46.720
Google's always trying to you know integrate them more I mean it started

00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:50.799
with little things and now it's kind of getting on to bigger things like for

00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:55.440
example how I was able to change my name is I was able to link it with my Google+

00:28:52.760 --> 00:28:58.880
which now instead of seeing Duncan 33303 on my channel it's Austin Evans um now

00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:06.440
they're just kind of taking that a next step further with the go+ comments so I

00:29:03.919 --> 00:29:10.000
don't think it's a too controversial thing to say that uh the comments on

00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:14.159
YouTube have never really been all that great yep I mean I think one of the

00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:19.080
problems I brought up with you particularly was that um I really hated

00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:22.880
the way that I would reply to a comment someone says something like oh lonus you

00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:26.840
got this spec wrong and I'd say you know well no actually depending on whatever

00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:31.200
this is this is how it is and it would get like you know 150 thumbs up so it

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:35.760
would it should in theory sit at the top but because of their Decay algorithm and

00:29:33.080 --> 00:29:40.840
because of just YouTube being YouTube it would often get lost and it would just

00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:42.440
fall away and so we'd end up with a ton

00:29:40.840 --> 00:29:45.720
of the same comment about something that the uploader is already addressed so

00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:49.559
maybe maybe walk through some of the changes that they're making to make the

00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:54.080
comments not only friendlier but also better for the uploaders themselves well

00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:57.640
I would but the thing is I actually haven't been able to test them yet um

00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:00.799
I've just pretty much all I know so far as just what they've kind of announced

00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:05.399
yet that it's not even coming out for another couple months right yeah not end

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:09.559
of year I think end of year yeah so I mean the big thing is that they're

00:30:07.120 --> 00:30:13.159
trying to increase now actually I'm going I'm going to sound dumb here do

00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.960
you actually have to use your real name because I don't actually know that part

00:30:14.600 --> 00:30:21.080
you don't have to no you can still use an alias which is great okay so if you

00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:25.640
can still use the Alias that's great but I think the big thing that they're kind of focusing on here is trying to get the

00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:29.679
organization a little bit better like you said uh like I I had the same

00:30:27.679 --> 00:30:33.279
problem I did a iPhone versus Galaxy speed test which by the way was a

00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:36.360
terrible idea but uh a bunch of people were kind of like calling me out saying

00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:41.080
hey there are different screen resolutions and I had to continuously

00:30:38.760 --> 00:30:44.559
like reply every like hour so like no they're not it was runoff screen it

00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.320
doesn't matter um so that's probably one of the biggest things but uh what do you

00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:52.840
think about the Google+ integration because I know you've been having a lot of issues with Google+ trying to you

00:30:51.120 --> 00:30:56.760
know get it all worked out and connected and all that kind of stuff I find

00:30:54.159 --> 00:31:00.200
Google+ extremely difficult to use um and part of the the reason is that I

00:30:58.320 --> 00:31:04.200
have multiple YouTube channels which is something that you don't really deal

00:31:01.399 --> 00:31:07.440
with and I have of course not only all the Gmail accounts that go with all

00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:12.480
those YouTube accounts because of that horrible onetoone relationship that they

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:17.000
forced us to maintain for all that time but also just because I have you know

00:31:14.639 --> 00:31:22.519
personal Gmail this and Legacy and work Gmail that and just random Legacy Gmail

00:31:19.919 --> 00:31:25.080
accounts so for me what I the the difficulty I had with this is I found it

00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:30.320
kind of confusing I find the functionality just isn't as simple as

00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:37.320
used a little bit old school like what's your IQ number ASL you know um that kind

00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:42.080
of old school junk right so to me when I was searching for Austin Evans trying to

00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:46.559
add you to Google Plus to a circle and every Austin Evans Under the Sun except

00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:51.639
you comes up and then I have to like go and like go into Gmail and then like add

00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:55.480
you by email there and invite you I'm just kind of sitting here going you got to I mean you got to be kidding me it's

00:31:53.840 --> 00:32:01.279
not that elegant yet and that's frustrating and I haven't really invested the time into figuring it out

00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.240
because I was just kind of playing that waiting game where it's like maybe I can

00:32:02.639 --> 00:32:09.000
just put this off and I won't have to do it and uh maybe maybe Google will just

00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:13.120
fix YouTube at some point but you can see that this has been in the works for

00:32:10.679 --> 00:32:16.240
a long time uh based on things like the fact that they're giving us that they've

00:32:14.679 --> 00:32:21.120
never fixed the inbox which is a terrible piece of garbage um they've

00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:25.120
they've taken away functionality like being able to see our full list of

00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:29.799
subscribers I mean that was years ago um but now we have that that new tab within

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:33.440
YouTube which is the actually I'm just going to load this up on my screen and

00:32:31.320 --> 00:32:37.440
do a quick screen share here so uh so people who haven't seen it can see it

00:32:35.600 --> 00:32:41.760
but um there we go we've got a we've got a couple of new Windows here so there's

00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:44.360
Community where you can see top fans there's a bunch of videos that aren't

00:32:42.919 --> 00:32:47.720
uploaded yet which doesn't really matter don't worry uh there's creation tools so

00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:52.240
they're really finally starting to upgrade it as part of this whole

00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:55.880
integration thing so I guess I better just suck it up or what some some

00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:59.399
interesting stuff that I noticed too is um you were talking about how you didn't

00:32:57.600 --> 00:33:03.120
like that the uploaders comments weren't featured uh they're going to be putting

00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.919
prioritization on uploader comments and uploaders Friends comments so I believe

00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:11.320
you can make a circle of people so if you made a circle for like lanis Media

00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:15.000
Group my comments your comments edel's comments Brandon's comments would all be

00:33:12.600 --> 00:33:19.159
prioritized and then you also have uh additional moderator tools so you can

00:33:16.679 --> 00:33:23.159
filter out certain keywords and there will also which will be which will be

00:33:21.159 --> 00:33:28.440
fantastic automated moderation will be great um and then the the other the

00:33:25.760 --> 00:33:32.919
other thing is the ability to oh crap I was going somewhere with this but oh

00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:37.279
yeah right and finally the ability to use a single go+ account to manage

00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:42.279
multiple YouTube channels that's great for me because I do manage multiple

00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:46.399
channels but I think like the the funny thing for me is I can't figure out

00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:50.600
whether to use Google+ as myself personally or to have Linus Tech tips be

00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:54.279
kind of the overarching one or have Linus Media Group the like I still got

00:33:52.399 --> 00:33:57.720
to figure out and play around with it how I want to do it and it doesn't help

00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:01.080
that I have like a few Google Plus accounts that I sort of halfheartedly

00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:06.399
created and I don't know what any of them are linked to

00:34:02.600 --> 00:34:08.919
so yeah I know I can tell you I've got

00:34:06.399 --> 00:34:13.760
myself set up as a page I feel like pages on Google+ make sense for for us

00:34:12.200 --> 00:34:18.119
um because you do have those extra features like you were saying you can actually create additional YouTube

00:34:16.520 --> 00:34:21.800
accounts and then they can all be managed by a page I don't don't quote me

00:34:20.720 --> 00:34:27.079
on this but I don't believe you can actually do that with a normal profile it has to be run through a page so there

00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:31.119
are advantages to having a page as opposed to a profile and unlike on

00:34:29.240 --> 00:34:35.000
Facebook there as far as I know aren't really any disadvantages like your

00:34:32.919 --> 00:34:37.800
content still Services the same way right it's not like the algorithm is

00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:42.480
kind of like going against you or anything so as far as I've know uh the

00:34:41.240 --> 00:34:49.399
page definitely does make sense on Google plot but they could change that algorithm at any time which they've done

00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.440
a billion times in the past and so yeah

00:34:49.399 --> 00:34:57.480
um so let's move into our next big topic which is the AMD mantle API which they

00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.920
showed off a new graphics card or seven or however many graphics cards they

00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:05.599
showed off while we were there um they talked about you know game developer

00:35:02.720 --> 00:35:11.240
relationships and and that kind of stuff um but let's talk mantle

00:35:08.640 --> 00:35:16.560
API yes this is a huge deal yeah it was kind of a big surprise

00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:19.560
for me because um obviously we had heard a little bit about it but when they

00:35:17.839 --> 00:35:24.760
actually started talking about it I was like it it kind of really took me a back

00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:27.720
I think it's a good step forward because as you know you can talk to pretty much

00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:32.359
any game developer you know using DirectX 11 is not I mean directex is

00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:39.200
just it's just so I it's bloated floated that's the

00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:40.960
perfect word and so yeah it's it's just

00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:44.280
it's just not the greatest way to get the maximum amount of Hardware sure I

00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:47.079
mean if you want compatibility with you know a million graphics cards and

00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.079
everything yeah yeah it's going to be great but do you want to get the maximum

00:35:48.839 --> 00:35:55.119
performance out of all those graphics cards well it's just not really going to be the correct choice so mantle is

00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:59.480
definitely a step in the right direction I think so here's the I mean here's the

00:35:57.319 --> 00:36:04.040
challenge so I had this this is directly from Chris Roberts I was I wanted to

00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.800
discuss mantle with him because uh even though most of the mantle uh

00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:11.800
presentation was focused on Battlefield 4 um you know there's going to be other

00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:20.000
games that are going to support it so I want I I just basically wanted to hit him up I was like

00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:23.760
dude why why is it that that games run

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:25.599
so crap on a PC even if it's if it's a

00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:30.960
PC optimized game and it was developed for PC first compared to what they can

00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:32.040
do on the uh on the on the consoles

00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:38.160
themselves and he was saying well it has to do with the number of calls because

00:36:34.319 --> 00:36:41.079
when you have uh you know a 500

00:36:38.160 --> 00:36:46.400
um H crap what was it uh true what you're are you talking

00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:51.160
about the API calls no no no no okay you know what I'll be I'll be back in a

00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.800
moment so you know what go I can talk

00:36:51.160 --> 00:36:55.880
about yeah uh so one thing that I noticed right away was when they're

00:36:54.319 --> 00:37:00.240
talking about this it reminded me of 3D fx's Glide

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:03.640
if that's kind of a throwback um which which was interesting and people were

00:37:01.560 --> 00:37:06.720
actually happy to see it go away so I found it kind of surprised that

00:37:04.680 --> 00:37:10.520
something like this was coming back but I expect that AMD is going to push this

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:14.200
really heavily with with games that they're helping sponsor so obviously

00:37:12.680 --> 00:37:18.440
they're behind Star Citizen quite a bit so starti is probably going to be developing for mantle and I think it's

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:24.680
also going to be interesting when they pull things from console so if someone's developing for console and they want to

00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:31.440
use these really low-level apis with mantle you'll be able to Port over still

00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.720
using that lowl API which is really

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:37.200
interesting because then if you're able to utilize it that's that's awesome but

00:37:35.640 --> 00:37:42.240
then again there's there's there's the great part and then there's there's a surprising part part of the surprising

00:37:40.319 --> 00:37:46.760
part is it's going to be hard to get a lot of developers um mainly on the PC

00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:51.040
side to utilize this without some type of sponsorship or backing because when

00:37:49.640 --> 00:37:55.160
you're developing for this you're going to also have to develop for those high

00:37:52.880 --> 00:38:00.960
level apis because not every card is going to be able to use mantle

00:37:57.640 --> 00:38:03.839
yeah specifically non- NVIDIA cards are

00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:08.200
and non gcn cards for that matter um although on the other side it does work

00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:14.000
with all gcn cards so it's not just the new R seven and R9 series uh so that

00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.440
includes like you know 7,000 Series so a

00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:19.960
good chunk of graphics cards will be able to just you know they'll flip a switch and mantle will be able to work

00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:24.440
so that that is good I'd say it's just an interesting position

00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:28.200
that they've taken okay so here here we go so I remember I remember what I was

00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:33.760
talking about with so he was saying that U depending on the complexity of an

00:38:30.040 --> 00:38:35.960
object a a computer's GPU is so powerful

00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:40.160
that it's not necessarily more difficult to render something that's relatively

00:38:37.680 --> 00:38:43.440
simple or to render something that's 10 times as complicated that is not

00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:50.119
actually what's important what's important is how many how many draw

00:38:46.040 --> 00:38:52.480
calls you can actually um that you can

00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:56.720
actually send to the GPU so there's a CPU bottleneck that exists because of

00:38:54.560 --> 00:39:01.440
openg or DirectX or any of those higher level apis that doesn't exist on the

00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:06.920
consoles so even though the consoles don't have the PC's capability of of

00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:11.760
drawing of of uh of rendering these more complex objects so quickly because we

00:39:09.839 --> 00:39:15.599
can we can hit them so many times more frequently well we can we can still draw

00:39:13.319 --> 00:39:19.119
more and we can actually make better use of that hardware and that's aside from

00:39:17.640 --> 00:39:23.440
being able to make better use of the memory itself and better uh and being

00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:28.040
able to better optimize for the architecture of the GPU itself so this

00:39:26.160 --> 00:39:32.839
is this is this is the big problem and that was what Chris talked about a lot

00:39:30.160 --> 00:39:36.760
was how many individual calls you can send to the GPU to get an object

00:39:34.680 --> 00:39:42.119
rendered because we're wasting that horsepower on the GPU by just rendering

00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:46.920
these these smaller objects or bigger objects doesn't matter but being limited

00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:51.920
to how many you can do how many requests you can hit it with at a time so that

00:39:49.560 --> 00:39:56.119
was that was to him the huge thing and I haven't heard any quotes in terms of

00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:02.000
performance improvements that we capable of seeing but with optimization I mean

00:39:59.560 --> 00:40:05.720
we could be looking at well you look at how well something runs on a console

00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:08.760
versus how well something runs on a PC and imagine that guys imagine if we

00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:13.880
could actually leverage that additional power and the last the last thing I want

00:40:11.160 --> 00:40:19.160
to touch on is I think the timing um is really good for this so AMD came out and

00:40:16.680 --> 00:40:23.960
said during the conference that um this is by request this isn't something that

00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:27.920
they're pushing on the game devs like uh fizx for example this is something that

00:40:26.520 --> 00:40:31.560
the game devs have been coming to them and saying we want this we want to get

00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.760
closer to the medal when we're programming our games espec especially

00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:38.920
with the position that they're in making the hardware for both consoles that's

00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.680
why game devs are asking for this so they can Port out from both consoles in

00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:48.040
the same way which is just and that's why the timing is excellent because now

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:51.200
you've got two new consoles coming so the game the game devs are going to have

00:40:49.520 --> 00:40:56.680
to be figuring out how to optimize for this gcn architecture anyway so we've

00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:01.800
got that happening and because G cn's been out on PC for almost 2 years now

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:06.800
there's a fairly large install base there as well which helps to justify the

00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:10.680
additional expense of well adding an additional API as an option not only

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:18.079
that but now okay maybe now we can move over to other platforms like Linux

00:41:14.720 --> 00:41:19.800
sex H so so yeah so there are a couple

00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:23.359
things that kind of jumped out at me about mantle one of them is is like you

00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:27.280
were saying earlier one of the bigger advantages is that allows you know uh

00:41:25.839 --> 00:41:30.680
games to take better advantage of the hardware and more specifically it's

00:41:28.839 --> 00:41:35.359
going to make it easier for games to take advantage of more CPU cores which

00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:39.480
amazingly enough AMD they kind of have been shipping a lot of CPU cores lately

00:41:37.560 --> 00:41:43.000
yeah so that's actually I kind kind of could be a little interesting kind of to

00:41:41.520 --> 00:41:47.359
come back because obviously the consoles are8 core the higher end FX stuff is8

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:52.640
core I'm sure we'll probably be seeing eight core apus within you know

00:41:50.359 --> 00:41:57.359
eventually so that's definitely one thing um for mantle for me I think a big

00:41:55.520 --> 00:42:02.720
thing is that really is going to kind of try to bridge the gap between consoles

00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:03.920
and PCs um obviously we'll have to see

00:42:02.720 --> 00:42:08.720
like you said performance and all that kind of stuff but it wouldn't surprise

00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:13.280
me if mantle really isn't actually that difficult to kind of develop for because

00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:16.839
if you're already doing it for consoles um perhaps if mantle is similar to the

00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.599
way consoles work and that kind of seems to be the way things are it might not

00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:24.720
actually be that difficult for a developer to say hey yeah we're going to

00:42:22.200 --> 00:42:28.280
go ahead and support mantle um and you know just magically make everything

00:42:26.720 --> 00:42:32.319
better and awesome and all that kind of stuff I mean the big concern I have is

00:42:30.359 --> 00:42:38.920
we're splitting developer resources so I think U Glide is a great example of why

00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:40.680
we moved away from that in the past and

00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:44.400
um are we moving towards even more fragmentation I mean you know a couple

00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:48.160
years from now do we see NVIDIA introduce their own thing now all of a

00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:54.040
sudden do game developers have to support openg GL direct 3D mantle and

00:42:51.640 --> 00:42:59.359
some kind of theoretical NVIDIA one and do we see um and and that's where it

00:42:57.240 --> 00:43:04.680
gets messy but then they have the the the nice very so solid advantage of

00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:11.720
having those consoles is the solution to just abandon direct 3D at that

00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:14.480
point that's I that's like the nuclear

00:43:11.720 --> 00:43:18.000
option I don't know man it's good way saying the nuclear that's the scary one

00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:21.520
I mean um you know from from an end user's perspective if it's well

00:43:19.839 --> 00:43:26.319
implemented Mantle's going to be as simple as like in in valve games where

00:43:23.640 --> 00:43:31.640
you can just drop down direct 3D open G and choose your renderer um mantle

00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:35.400
mantle is going to be that that simple but from a developer perspective I'll be

00:43:33.839 --> 00:43:39.119
I'll be really interested to see how this works out and if we see weird

00:43:37.319 --> 00:43:43.240
compatibility glitches and all of a sudden it becomes yet another bloody

00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:47.079
thing for end users to diagnose so I'm using the wrong renderer for this game

00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:53.079
as long as they don't make it the default it shouldn't be that big of a deal well I think they probably will as

00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:55.319
far as uh because uh it'll be coming out on some games I would imagine that

00:43:54.359 --> 00:44:00.400
they're not just going to ship it and say oh by the way there's this magical thing that makes your game run a million

00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:04.480
times faster but we're not actually going to activate it so yeah we'll have

00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:08.640
to see I mean you know what's funny is we're

00:44:06.359 --> 00:44:13.160
going to have an EA moment on the show if uh if Battlefield 4 doesn't

00:44:11.160 --> 00:44:18.079
automatically run on mantle once it's once it's

00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:19.480
available so I would imagine it would be

00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:23.000
that's kind of a big deal for him so they showed off a slide that uh that

00:44:21.319 --> 00:44:28.440
actually did say specifically that mantle will allow battlefield for to

00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:30.040
utilize eight threads which is extremely

00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:34.760
exciting and also that it's only the beginning I mean uh FPS is the tip of

00:44:32.839 --> 00:44:41.520
the iceberg when it comes to games that EA intends for devel other developers to

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:43.680
to run using frostbit so I mean by the

00:44:41.520 --> 00:44:47.440
time it's not even a matter of AMD winning in terms of getting it

00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:53.280
implemented game by game but if they can win a couple big engines then this will

00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:56.520
be a thing and it's extremely exciting definitely yeah because not only does

00:44:54.720 --> 00:45:01.160
that have amplifications for making performance better on AMD based p uh PCS

00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:04.680
but also hey you know what you're going to be building for you know frostbite or

00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:09.280
whatever particular engine okay so I'm going to chck a box oh it's going to run on consoles it's going to run on PC

00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:13.200
obviously it's not quite that simple but it all kind of it snowballs and kind of

00:45:11.640 --> 00:45:18.000
helps one thing helps the other thing helps the other thing just kind of improves performance and improves

00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:23.559
compatibility across the board so this was mine and your first time at an AMD

00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:24.880
event um what was what were your

00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:28.960
thoughts what was your takeaway well first of all they had in

00:45:27.040 --> 00:45:32.680
Hawaii which I think was a pretty awesome place I actually had never been

00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:36.800
before so it was a it's a really really nice place that they had it um as far as

00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:40.760
the like the information I thought it was really interesting they were very

00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:45.000
you know technical and detailed and kind of explained a lot um I think we both

00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:49.160
had uh a chance to actually go one-on-one with some uh people from AMD

00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.680
and kind of answer some of our deep questions about you know the particulars

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:56.040
and all that kind of stuff once the actually the cards come out but uh I was

00:45:54.240 --> 00:46:01.400
really impressed I thought that they had they first of all it was a well organized event um there was plenty for

00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:05.960
us to see and do and kind of learn about all the new stuff I like that demo room

00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:11.760
um I think they may have seen it uh in the Vlog did you show that off all like

00:46:08.359 --> 00:46:14.760
the 4K monitors and 4K

00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:17.800
ifinity which was just

00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.920
like what is that like 12,000 does like

00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:26.359
12K pixels that would yeah that that would be effectively 12 time HD which

00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:31.599
just mind running off of two

00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:33.880
290x and they I mean it was dir three

00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:38.400
but you know the funny thing was looking at it you could they're playing dirt on

00:46:35.520 --> 00:46:42.359
it you could see like the textures like dirt was clearly nowhere near made for

00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:47.240
4K but because the screens and because the resolution was so like

00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:50.640
astronomically high like like you can look at the text compared to like the

00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:55.160
actual textures and there was a huge difference which obviously I don't think

00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:59.720
a lot of developers are really you know designing for for 12K yeah they're not

00:46:57.319 --> 00:47:05.720
too R but uh it was it was a really cool thing to see just that many pixels what

00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.800
is actually that's what like 24 25

00:47:05.720 --> 00:47:13.839
megapixels being rendered on the Fly Just redonkulous um just just redonkulous I

00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:18.160
mean uh when we talk about you know a camera being able to process an image

00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:23.839
like that you know we're talking like you know it processes the image and then

00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:25.880
you know give it a sec yeah um oh yeah

00:47:23.839 --> 00:47:29.960
so they had a few other demos let's talk about real sound a little bit because I

00:47:27.520 --> 00:47:34.920
know okay guys for all of you tuned in don't touch that dial we're not going to

00:47:31.520 --> 00:47:37.440
talk about it for half an hour okay so

00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:41.079
real sound just as a quick briefer is basically a a programmable it's it's the

00:47:39.520 --> 00:47:45.880
equivalent to what a programmable Shader was on the visual side so it's

00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:50.559
programmable sound built into the GPU so that game devs can look at the resources

00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:54.319
that they have available to them and know that they're going to be able to

00:47:52.319 --> 00:47:57.520
program in more advanced audio effects now they had a demo that they were

00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:02.400
running in that demo room which is what reminded me of real sound because otherwise it really wasn't on the top of

00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:08.119
my mind cuz it's only going to be supported on a couple of the upcoming

00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:10.520
gpus even um so real sound um is

00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:16.440
basically a way of in turning sound into more of a physics thing as opposed to um

00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:21.119
running around you know the office you know banging on things to create sound

00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:25.960
effects and then just having a a library of sounds that it that it draws upon in

00:48:23.520 --> 00:48:30.200
a in a given sort of scenario so like games where the swords Clash for example

00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:34.800
it's going to sound like Clash one two or three or heavy Clash one or two kind

00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:39.160
of thing so Austin you heard the thief demo tell me what you think of this new

00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:44.319
way of implementing particularly reverberations in the sound yeah see

00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:48.160
that's exactly it true audio is yeah typically in a game it just plays like a

00:48:46.319 --> 00:48:51.920
you know like a quick like MP3 or whatever and it's very simple and there

00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:54.880
are ways of making the sound kind of seem more realistic like with like

00:48:53.319 --> 00:49:00.000
reverberations and whatnot when you're in you know maybe like a church or

00:48:56.680 --> 00:49:01.359
whatever or eax used to eax used to be

00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:07.960
the the thing that was pushing that forward but that just died in a fire when Vista got launched yeah so but one

00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:12.000
of the main drawbacks is that that kind of takes more of CPU uh more of a hit on

00:49:10.240 --> 00:49:14.720
the CPU and then a lot of times it's like ah we want to H the performance of

00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:19.400
the game just so it sounds a little bit better but this seems a little be a little bit more of a smarter

00:49:17.319 --> 00:49:24.400
implementation uh so with the thief demo that we both listen to um I could tell a

00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:28.160
big difference um it was it was much more like when it was off it sounded

00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:32.160
like uh like you said like everyone was just like talking to the microphone like

00:49:29.799 --> 00:49:34.760
it very flat but when they turned it on you could kind of hear like the audio

00:49:33.640 --> 00:49:39.400
kind of like echoing a little bit around the room hear the footsteps I mean I

00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:43.720
don't think it was this massive Quantum Leap and just like blew my mind but

00:49:41.720 --> 00:49:46.680
compared with it on and off I could tell a major difference and especially with a

00:49:45.319 --> 00:49:50.720
game like Thief which is kind of like you know sneaking around and very sound

00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:54.440
oriented yeah absolutely very sound oriented you know I think another good

00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.559
game or a lot of of games that could really uh you know benefit from this

00:49:56.119 --> 00:50:00.839
would be like first- person shooters because you know obviously you're trying

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:04.680
to listen for footsteps and whatnot and if you could kind of hear them in a

00:50:02.520 --> 00:50:07.680
little bit more detail kind of maybe figure out where they are in 3D space

00:50:06.319 --> 00:50:13.280
just a little bit better I mean obviously you're when you're dealing with headphones you're not you know you

00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:16.359
don't have a 20 speaker setup to you know precisely pinpoint everything but I

00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:21.000
I think it's a step in the right direction I don't know if it was worth

00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:27.040
you know the 45 minutes they spent doing demos on it I mean it's it's cool but uh

00:50:24.160 --> 00:50:31.960
yeah okay I mean I agree with you 100% better immersiveness and anything that

00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.400
takes load off the CPU and enhances your

00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:39.319
gameplay experience especially with mantle which

00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:43.440
is going to allow the game to take better advantage of the power of your

00:50:40.799 --> 00:50:46.760
GPU and take better advantage of your CPU by utilizing more cores well why

00:50:45.359 --> 00:50:50.720
don't we just not waste any of that processing power on sound anymore then

00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:56.240
why don't we just have it dealt with by the graphics card so the last advantage of real sound in addition to allowing

00:50:54.680 --> 00:51:00.880
reverberation which is a lot of calculations like more like physics

00:50:57.799 --> 00:51:02.680
sound the other Advantage is that in

00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:06.920
terms of directionality it should be able to be much more accurate than

00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:11.359
something that's relying on something other than the game engine itself to

00:51:08.839 --> 00:51:15.640
give it directional cues so the fact that the processing is going on at a

00:51:13.680 --> 00:51:19.240
much earlier stage in the pipeline is going to mean that cheesy things that

00:51:17.319 --> 00:51:23.960
I've never liked I mean you guys must know this like USB surround sound

00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:29.599
dongles and Surround headphones guys if you're longtime viewers I'm not real

00:51:26.640 --> 00:51:33.480
enthusiastic about them um I mean Austin do you feel the same way or oh yeah

00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:37.079
definitely so this sounds like a much better way to do that so we have a

00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:42.040
little thing that we do called Twitter Blitz and I'd love for you to participate so I'm going to read out

00:51:40.359 --> 00:51:47.520
Twitter questions that are actually intended for you and I'd love you to uh

00:51:45.040 --> 00:51:51.960
to to hit the audience with the answers as fast as you possibly can that's the

00:51:50.040 --> 00:51:55.200
whole objective all right all right let's do it will Blackberry be just a

00:51:53.839 --> 00:52:00.000
company that we used to know or will they make a comeback they will probably

00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:02.799
Fade Out I don't think they'll totally go out of business because they still do

00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:06.720
have a pretty strong hold on the Enterprise and it sounds like they're

00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:10.079
going to be bought but as far as you know people like us being able to buy

00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:14.240
them yeah I think that's about done what do you think of the Note 3 uh I haven't

00:52:12.520 --> 00:52:18.760
been able to really try it yet um well you were hands on you were hands on I

00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:24.000
was there I saw you touch it somewhat although that did actually didn't happen

00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:25.440
so shh uh uh I think the Note 3 is it

00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:31.760
was hilariously big compared to the iPhone cuz I've been using the 5S the last couple days um yeah I mean I'm

00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:35.680
excited um I missed the giant battery and the giant screen of the Note 2 so uh

00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:40.720
all right looking forward to getting myself a note 3 someone's building a

00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:45.280
system what CPU and graphics card for gaming what that's like um what what

00:52:43.720 --> 00:52:51.040
kind of money are are they spending I don't know exactly that's the correct

00:52:48.040 --> 00:52:52.520
answer uh here we go uh someone was

00:52:51.040 --> 00:52:57.680
asking about unreleased stuff what do you think of flexible displays for phones and tablets

00:52:55.839 --> 00:53:01.040
I think it'll be cool but not in the way a lot of people think you're not going

00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:04.720
to have a phone and you just bend it what it's going to be more like is that

00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:09.440
instead of having the display being Square um imagine that the side of the

00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:14.119
phone it kind of like tapers down and the screen follows the taper so uh

00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:17.720
there's actually a shot I think of a CES a couple years ago where Samsung showed

00:53:15.799 --> 00:53:20.480
this off where it's a normal screen from the front but when you look at it from

00:53:18.799 --> 00:53:24.280
the side the screen just keeps on going all the way and wraps over the edge I

00:53:22.200 --> 00:53:27.720
think that's where the flexible display is going to kind more in handy we're not

00:53:26.040 --> 00:53:33.720
just going to you know your your screen your your phone's just not going to be like a like a piece of plastic or

00:53:30.720 --> 00:53:34.870
something unless you have a Galaxy

00:53:33.720 --> 00:53:36.839
S4

00:53:36.839 --> 00:53:42.599
hell okay you Inn never

00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:45.920
mind H YouTube have also discontinued video responses how do you feel about

00:53:44.359 --> 00:53:50.000
that I I'm going to jump in I'm going to say I don't care go ahead I'm right

00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:53.599
there with you I mean didn't they say something about like how the video

00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:58.799
responses were like clicked on like one in every 2 million videos some like

00:53:56.280 --> 00:54:02.880
stupid yeah don't thoughts on YouTube adding a music library for their content

00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:07.040
creators it's good because I'm tired of hearing the same iMovie uh music in

00:54:04.799 --> 00:54:12.599
every single video on YouTube uh but I'm sure I'll get tired of this music as

00:54:09.040 --> 00:54:15.359
well the right direction I'm glad

00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:19.480
that uh does your camera still work uh this is from the Vlog when your camera

00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:22.400
got soaked oh yeah oh yeah it's it's weather sealed it was all good um we

00:54:21.240 --> 00:54:28.880
were just running out through the rain cuz it's Hawaii and it rains like every 10 minutes uh yeah it's good here's a

00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:34.640
great question Scott Horton asks do you think mantle will help with emulating

00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:38.160
the nextg consoles because that's been a thing where you had to have a PC that

00:54:36.520 --> 00:54:43.319
was 10 times more powerful than a Playstation One in order to emulate PS1

00:54:41.200 --> 00:54:48.799
Hardware do you think mantle will make a big difference to that oo that's tough I

00:54:46.520 --> 00:54:53.040
mean o that's a good question theoretically okay so theoretically you

00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:58.000
could kind of take a look back at like uh the original Xbox which was similar L

00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.839
based to normal PC Hardware um just because it's based on the same Hardware

00:54:59.680 --> 00:55:05.599
doesn't necessarily mean that it would be able to be emulated as far as I know

00:55:03.839 --> 00:55:11.880
um I mean I don't think it would be a bad thing but if it's based on the same

00:55:07.520 --> 00:55:14.400
hardware and the same API and

00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:19.880
potentially runs on the same Graphics architecture it's not it's not really

00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:22.839
emulation they're both x86 yeah so not

00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:26.480
it's not yeah I doubt that you'll be able to just like load a game up the

00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:29.319
software is still I strongly believe he going to be very much locked down the

00:55:27.799 --> 00:55:34.119
operating system as far as like how you be able to you know you know get the

00:55:31.240 --> 00:55:36.880
Xbox One operating system PS4 I I don't think it's a bad thing but I don't think

00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:41.280
it's just going to be open season to just throw PS4 and Xbox One games on

00:55:39.160 --> 00:55:49.480
your system anytime soon valid resp sponsor uh favorite retro and non- retro

00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:51.440
game go oh okay retro um can I say Grant

00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:56.480
rismo is that does that count as oh come on you're so young dude how old are you

00:55:54.559 --> 00:56:00.960
dude yeah that that that's like retro for me I played that I was like four or

00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:02.520
five uh and then favorite non- retro

00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:06.160
game um actually I'd probably have to say Metro last Light as far as like

00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:12.240
games I've played recently I really really enjoyed that all right uh last

00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:15.880
one and this is from some jackass that

00:56:12.240 --> 00:56:17.799
uh I I hate that guy um he says you're

00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:23.400
not going to tell anyone what happened in Hawaii right we made a pack and this

00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:29.039
is from Paul Hardware on Twitter yeah no uh no comment on that uh

00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:34.760
there was an NDA sign that evening that uh not supposed to talk about this so no

00:56:30.680 --> 00:56:37.280
it's didn't happen Paul uh I'm sorry but

00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:43.720
please don't talk about this anymore it was yeah just know yeah it it was it was

00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:47.000
super homo so um basically yeah like

00:56:43.720 --> 00:56:48.440
full homo okay so um to talk about it

00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:52.880
did you sign The Pact or did you just like ghost I signed the pack man I

00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:56.599
signed that P we all signed the pack and the fact that Paul's even talking about

00:56:54.359 --> 00:57:00.799
it like he's opening himself up to like some serious legal ramifications because

00:56:59.319 --> 00:57:06.119
part of the pack was to not talk you don't talk about fight CL two rules

00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:09.599
first two rules two rules inherently

00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:12.440
teach you to break rules I don't care

00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:15.680
well no you you don't know you don't know I'm just saying you don't know how

00:57:14.240 --> 00:57:20.359
homo it was let me put it this way it's almost

00:57:18.160 --> 00:57:25.359
as homo as when we spend time together wow that's pretty intense yeah it's

00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:29.520
intense homo holy cow so uh so anyway enough talking about Homo Austin if you

00:57:27.319 --> 00:57:36.760
want to please please plug your stuff because if a few people don't okay that

00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:41.440
that was did I violate the

00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:43.640
pact I think it did okay dude talk up

00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:47.280
your YouTube talk up your Twitter I want our live viewers to know how awesome you

00:57:45.359 --> 00:57:53.839
are go subscribe to you and get that done the greatest Segway ever you

00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:57.839
um so uh if you want stuff that has videos that have absolutely nothing to

00:57:55.119 --> 00:58:04.599
do with we just talked about of text St you guys can uh check me out on YouTube

00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:07.599
youtube.com/ Austin Evans uh I swear

00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:10.079
this the just forget about this last big

00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:13.680
nothing to do there are no videos of that anywhere on YouTube so don't don't

00:58:12.359 --> 00:58:17.680
don't think the look but if you want to check my channel out for maybe other

00:58:15.640 --> 00:58:21.480
stuff that doesn't include Paul and lus uh you can do that so youtube.com/

00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:27.520
Austin all right cool and guys just another reminder is Austin and I are

00:58:23.359 --> 00:58:29.720
doing a collaborative iPhone 5c giveaway

00:58:27.520 --> 00:58:34.079
so make sure that you're subscribed to both of us so you'll have a chance to

00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:36.000
win one of two iPhone 5c phones we are

00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:39.839
giving away two phones all right thank you Austin you've been a fantastic guest

00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:43.839
there's still a week left on that too so PL time to get in on it lots of times so

00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:47.160
thank you very much and uh we'd love to have you on the show again and it was a

00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:51.559
it was a real pleasure meeting you in person for the first time

00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:55.880
man right man hey thanks for having me and I will catch you later all right

00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.440
take care see you all right so let's

00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:02.960
switch back to our to our No guest and actually you know what I'd love to make

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seconds which is our commitment I think you a lot longer than 30 seconds but

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difficult it's just a really simple way to pretty easily mask what you're doing

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to block Google at work cuz I'm a big jerk and don't understand how media

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companies work um he wouldn't do that but if he did I could install Hotspot

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Shield on say my phone or my laptop or whatever and then get around that so say

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you're in a situation where you have free Wi-Fi but you really need to access

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your email and it's like it's actually really freaking important you can have

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it's good for getting around certain bits of security and Regional locks as

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VPN all your all your network traffic is going through a different computer

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out and again so huge thanks to Razer commoms Squarespace and Hotspot Shield

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for making the W show possible for you guys uh we ran it for a long time just

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with like just with us basically not not getting paid at all just cuz we wanted

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to do this content and having sponsors helps us to continue to make it better

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invest in more equipment and and just keep making the show better for you guys

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in fact I mean our audio mixers like this B now we're learning how to use it

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which is why you hear thats right now but uh having sponsors is really going

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to help us continue to develop not only this but more shows um I I haven't

01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:12.200
really talked about this much yet but we are going to uh the the masses have

01:04:09.520 --> 01:04:16.000
spoken you guys want the W show you want a long format show we're going to keep

01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:21.160
doing that but we're also going to be adding um some more targeted focused

01:04:18.720 --> 01:04:23.799
shorter shows throughout the week and I haven't talked to you about this yet but

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I think they're going to end up on Techquickie okay I think that'll make sense so Tech

01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:33.319
quickie will be mostly fast as possible and then either daily or three times a

01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:37.039
week or whatever we decide on updates for certain little news items that we

01:04:35.279 --> 01:04:40.400
keep very short so for instance we could have covered all the individual steam

01:04:38.680 --> 01:04:44.160
updates which would have actually been really nice and much more timely and

01:04:42.200 --> 01:04:47.799
giving you guys like you know a reason to get your news from us as opposed to a

01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:52.480
reason to just hear us sort of wax philosophical about what it all means

01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:57.520
speaking of waxing philosophical about what it all means let's get into the

01:04:54.559 --> 01:05:02.319
steam announcement so number one that segue right that that you've got got

01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:09.760
some pretty epic Segways thank you uh Steam OS boom big head explosion so go

01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:14.079
this one was kind of insane like I I actually was not expecting this one at

01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:17.960
all uh the other two I guessed both of them but this one was kind of out of

01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:22.200
left field at least okay we kind of saw Steam OS coming because we were

01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:27.960
expecting steam box to have some kind of steamy customized OS I just expected it

01:05:25.240 --> 01:05:32.319
to be a like custom version of Ubuntu not its own thing and I expected it to

01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:36.160
be somewhat closed I expected steam box to be a steam box and you didn't build

01:05:34.240 --> 01:05:39.880
your own steam box maybe they partnered with others to build steam boxes but

01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:44.359
like I thought it was going to be pretty pretty hardcore lock down but that got

01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:48.480
completely obliterated oh no you can download the raw source code for this if

01:05:46.799 --> 01:05:53.240
you want and change it in any way you want they do not care which is amazing

01:05:51.160 --> 01:05:56.319
they they even said there uh actually I'm not going to jump to that quite yet

01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:59.319
but like there's a ton of cool stuff so it's on Linux and I know a ton of you in

01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:03.440
the audience that haven't read up on this right now are going oh so I can't

01:06:01.240 --> 01:06:06.960
play like any of my games cuz there's only that's totally wrong because if you

01:06:05.240 --> 01:06:13.000
have your desktop PC which I'm assuming most of you already have you can stream

01:06:09.160 --> 01:06:14.680
Shield style your Windows games over to

01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:21.240
your steam box that is running on the TV which is like amazing so we could I mean

01:06:17.839 --> 01:06:24.240
okay why do people like me say look I'm

01:06:21.240 --> 01:06:25.480
not interested in Linux because too

01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:30.680
complicated and it can't play the games that you want it's not that complicated I have used comp for some people okay

01:06:29.160 --> 01:06:34.440
but the fact that it doesn't you can't game on it is just the stupidest thing

01:06:32.680 --> 01:06:37.920
ever from from my perspective is like look I want the machine that is the

01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:42.079
allrounder that does everything reasonably well and that's Windows right

01:06:39.680 --> 01:06:46.319
now um the fact that you can stream games I mean look at look at it this way

01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:49.400
NVIDIA has invested heavily in this game streaming technology which is

01:06:47.839 --> 01:06:53.160
interesting from a cloud gaming perspective but we're we're years and

01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:57.960
years away from that being feasible but from a local streaming perspective is

01:06:55.720 --> 01:07:03.839
actually much more relevant to me and NVIDIA has shown already that they can

01:07:00.680 --> 01:07:05.279
do this over Wireless there is no reason

01:07:03.839 --> 01:07:10.680
I would want to run my steam box wirelessly if I wire up my house with

01:07:08.319 --> 01:07:17.079
like 10 gabit which is going to come eventually to Consumer grade prices y

01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:19.880
all of a sudden holy crap my Windows box

01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:25.039
lives in a closet my Windows Home Server is now my Windows Home Server and every

01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:29.599
other machine in the house could be running Linux and I could game to my heart's content I was even going to say

01:07:28.200 --> 01:07:34.079
this would be really interesting because if you had say you're a dad and you

01:07:31.680 --> 01:07:36.279
still want to have your your Beast computer because you're going to do

01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:41.720
other stuff like video editing or whatever but then you've got your kids that are just going to game you could

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:45.160
have like a central Beast computer instead of building Beast computers for

01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:49.880
each one of your kids and then just give them steam boxes which is just amazing I

01:07:47.799 --> 01:07:54.960
mean this is remember when NVIDIA first announced grid this is exactly what I

01:07:52.319 --> 01:07:59.279
was talking about person Cloud compute that's awesome as opposed

01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:02.119
to personal cloud storage which is fascinating and all that and WD has a

01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:10.960
new product coming that we're going to check out that apparently makes it much simpler but personal cloud compute is

01:08:07.359 --> 01:08:13.839
just B so excited about this and I mean

01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:17.080
you know what kudos to valve for taking us in this direction this is such a big

01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:21.000
deal because when they talked about supporting Linux in the longer term I

01:08:18.759 --> 01:08:25.719
went yeah that's fascinating we can run portal on Linux or whatever and this big

01:08:23.080 --> 01:08:29.560
performance hit but now all of a sudden whoa boom mantle hits us this week

01:08:28.040 --> 01:08:34.799
porting to different os's we're not going to rely necessarily on Direct 3D

01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:36.679
or openg GL anymore boom and then the

01:08:34.799 --> 01:08:42.560
fact that now we're going to be able to run our games using streaming from a

01:08:38.719 --> 01:08:43.880
separate computer on Linux so Beast like

01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:50.960
there's a couple other announcements even aside all of that insane awesomeness that you grab right away um

01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:53.239
stuff like uh my my little local co-op

01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:56.839
back door thing not going to work okay great right the game sharing but you

01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:59.839
could so even though you couldn't you couldn't like play against each other

01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:03.440
what you could do is you could have a steam box in the living room and you

01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:06.520
could share your library with a separate account cuz steam still won't support

01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:10.799
multiple logins of the same person in different locations and that's what a

01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:14.000
great solution that is right yeah so so I will have two accounts now I will have

01:09:12.839 --> 01:09:17.520
my account that I don't really buy anything on which is my steambox account

01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:20.679
and I'll have my main desktop account and I'll just share everything with that

01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:24.640
account and that's totally fine I just can't play games concurrently so you I

01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:28.000
can take turns so a buddy over and he wanted to play on my steam box computer

01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:30.560
we couldn't play the same game but as long as we take turns playing different

01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:33.960
games it's totally fine play on the same time I oh man that's great and I

01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:39.080
wouldn't I'd be interested to see if they had the capability to add multiple licenses of a game to a single Steam

01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:42.199
account that would be really interesting that's actually not a bad idea if anyone

01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:45.560
from valve is watching I'd actually like to see that that ties in really well

01:09:43.799 --> 01:09:48.679
with their family options so they have a family options thing where you can hide

01:09:47.080 --> 01:09:54.920
certain games from other people based on the SRB ratings or preference so Hotline

01:09:51.719 --> 01:09:57.280
Miami which is a crazy good game but I

01:09:54.920 --> 01:10:02.400
would never let anyone under the recommended age play because it's nuts

01:10:00.280 --> 01:10:06.960
like this is this is like GTA style where you don't want little kids playing

01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:08.480
this game awesome game dad might own it

01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:11.800
doesn't want to share it with his kid he can now hide it that's brilliant but

01:10:10.320 --> 01:10:16.159
yeah that could tie in with the multiple licenses thing yeah that would be really

01:10:13.679 --> 01:10:20.400
cool yeah um okay so steam announcement number two I guess we kind of talked

01:10:18.360 --> 01:10:25.719
about it a fair bit so Steam Machines um it's not it's kind of tied

01:10:23.320 --> 01:10:29.120
into the first one in a big way to to to be kind of blunt it's not super

01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:33.360
interesting cuz we all knew this was coming yeah we all knew this was going

01:10:31.280 --> 01:10:38.120
to be one of these OMG valve's going to have a console okay yes got it Val going

01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:41.280
to have a console okay fine for interesting things to bring up they're

01:10:39.679 --> 01:10:46.800
going to be shipping 300 prototypes of it this year so sometimes within 2020

01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:50.520
maybe um but they'll be shipping 300 prototypes to people that have completed

01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:53.840
the quest the quest is basically stuff that you've probably already done plus

01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:57.520
play a big picture game with with a controller yeah um there's going to be

01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:01.280
30 of these prototypes that are given to people that are big contributors to the

01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:06.320
community probably people that have made things that go up on the market but then

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:09.440
um 270 of them will be completely randomly selected out of people that

01:11:08.080 --> 01:11:14.960
have completed that Quest so if you check out um store. ste.com

01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:19.120
livingroom machines you can see everything you have to complete for that

01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:22.640
quest which is interesting um and the non prototype versions are supposed to

01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:28.520
be available sometime in 2014 so I'm expecting somewhere around 2030 um

01:11:26.360 --> 01:11:31.560
that's I'm wondering how valve time is going to play into all of this actually

01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:37.199
because they're they're putting out fairly solid release dates I mean to

01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:40.880
me Steam Machines basically sounds like Windows machines like it it's basically

01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:45.320
just another way of saying it's a computer that will have Hardware in it

01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:48.840
that's going to run the Steam OS and and I I think that particularly when you

01:11:47.040 --> 01:11:54.000
look like a you look at a community like steam um we're going to see a lot of DIY

01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:56.520
a lot of DIY steam machines as opposed to like it's going to I think it's going

01:11:55.120 --> 01:12:01.159
to be a lot like the Hackintosh Community where no people don't buy a

01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:05.320
Hackintosh what they do is they they head over to Tony Mac x86 or whatever

01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:10.800
that site is that's awesome by the way if you ever want to build a Hackintosh just go there it's like done for you uh

01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:13.600
buy the hardware build it themselves and it's a very rewarding experience and

01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:18.880
you're going to get better performance for your dollar and all those great things that go along with that that is

01:12:17.280 --> 01:12:22.320
where things are going to get they actually said so there's going to be a

01:12:20.320 --> 01:12:25.840
valve version and the valve version is going to be highly customizable and you

01:12:24.679 --> 01:12:31.320
can build your own and that will obviously be highly customizable but then the ones built by other people will

01:12:29.400 --> 01:12:37.800
be focused around different metrics so size price um thermal output uh sound

01:12:36.320 --> 01:12:41.440
stuff like that and with a free OS we're going to have a lot of flexibility and

01:12:39.639 --> 01:12:46.400
for particularly for DIY guys we're going to see a bigger price disparity

01:12:43.639 --> 01:12:50.960
between DIY and offthe shelf because with Windows the big manufacturers like

01:12:48.679 --> 01:12:54.159
Acer or Lenovo are getting massive discounts on the software whereas when

01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:58.600
you build one yourself you're paying full retail so even though you're able

01:12:56.360 --> 01:13:03.159
to build your PC for slightly cheaper you paid that inflated margin to

01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:08.679
Microsoft for a standalone OS whereas now when both osses are free now that

01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:13.960
decreases our price even more by by a much larger margin so I'm really excited

01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:15.320
about DIY good point steam machines or

01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:22.040
whatever they want to call them I'm so excited because I've wanted to build a small form factor computer for a while

01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:23.920
but never had that big of a reason steam

01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:28.440
announcement three three um the steam controller so I'm

01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:34.360
going to go ahead and I'm going fire this up for you guys because you're going to need to see it to believe it

01:13:31.440 --> 01:13:38.600
for this one yeah a new way to play your entire steam library from the sofa so

01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:45.800
there's a dog and a cat they cardboard cutouts boom there it

01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:52.080
is I legitimately thought this was the back um especially actually because of

01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:54.120
how where your hand goes kind of works

01:13:52.080 --> 01:13:58.639
and how it looks but um yeah I'm going to keep letting that

01:13:56.320 --> 01:13:58.639
sink

01:14:00.120 --> 01:14:06.760
in so my first conclusion and I find it funny because if you scroll up to where

01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:09.520
it shows the home theater uh oh okay here sorry I'm not on my screen anymore

01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:13.760
yeah go ahead go ahead they have Civ five on screen which I thought was

01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:18.120
hilarious because before I noticed that I was like the only game I really thing

01:14:16.480 --> 01:14:23.840
it's like you can use this controller to play SI 5 then they had S 5 on the

01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:29.800
screen I was like oh someone thought of that okay so let me let let's why don't

01:14:27.360 --> 01:14:34.120
we start with some of the specs because that's really important it's got 16

01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:37.280
total buttons so the trackpads themselves are buttons the touchcreen in

01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:41.920
the middle has four buttons at the corners uh there's a few look more like

01:14:40.120 --> 01:14:44.960
navigational buttons under the screen itself actually here I'm going to I'm

01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:50.159
going to fire that up again for you guys so you can see what I'm talking about

01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:52.560
and um the the real the real killer app

01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:57.920
here is these touch pads so there there's the touchcreen here and then the

01:14:54.480 --> 01:15:02.280
touch pads here and here that have what

01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:05.199
valve is calling the most um the most

01:15:02.280 --> 01:15:10.639
advanced haptic feedback that we've yet seen in a consumer device so to be clear

01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:16.239
haptic feedback if you ever used like a Samsung Galaxy Tab uh 10.1 the original

01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:19.800
one where it just kind of like felt like a big piece of poo every time you

01:15:17.679 --> 01:15:25.080
touched it and it kind of went like when you touched it and it it

01:15:22.719 --> 01:15:32.719
felt like it falling apart uh valves going for not that they're going for

01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:35.480
something that actually will give you

01:15:32.719 --> 01:15:38.719
tactile feedback about not just where your fingers are on the pad and you know

01:15:37.400 --> 01:15:44.280
the curvature will help with that as well but also things like um

01:15:41.719 --> 01:15:48.719
acceleration uh boundaries threshold speed textures action confirmations or

01:15:46.639 --> 01:15:52.080
any other events they're saying these are so Advanced that they're basically

01:15:50.440 --> 01:15:58.000
speakers and as a little trick you could actually have them play music or make

01:15:54.120 --> 01:16:00.320
sound effects if you really wanted to um

01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:03.440
now what I noticed immediately because this was the one that actually out of

01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:08.360
all the steam announcements this was the one where I not only read the the valve

01:16:06.480 --> 01:16:12.199
page but you read the and another article but I went and found like a

01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:16.199
dozen articles because I was like what are people saying about this I read

01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:20.800
hundreds of user comments I actually spent a lot of time this morning looking

01:16:18.040 --> 01:16:24.679
at this and here's what I found user comments people are either saying it's

01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:29.800
bull it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen or they're saying hold on give

01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:33.960
this a chance it's valve they they haven't done wrong by us too many times

01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:39.480
in the past and then there's like the one guy in a 100 who's stoked on it and

01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:43.440
then professional writers basically all opted to say nothing yeah I couldn't

01:16:41.639 --> 01:16:48.239
find anyone who gave an opinion on it and I didn't read every article but they

01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:50.960
were all just like here's Val's press

01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:56.600
release and they just said nothing which to me is is a big indicator that they're

01:16:54.400 --> 01:16:59.880
real skeptical about this but they don't want to be the guy that said it was

01:16:58.120 --> 01:17:03.520
balls and then it turns out to be amazing I I'm going to actually bounce

01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:08.239
back I made the comment about Civ 5 earlier but after typing that in and I

01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:11.760
have I have it here being like you're only really going to be able to play to

01:17:09.480 --> 01:17:17.360
5 but after typing that in depending on how good the touchpads are um actually

01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:19.760
was playing GTA 5 last night and I

01:17:17.360 --> 01:17:22.239
noticed the only way I can aim at people is by pulling the left trigger

01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:26.360
repeatedly which will make him automatically point people because

01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:32.080
without that I'm like I'm wondering can I actually be

01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:36.760
more accurate with a touchpad that's super super good versus I mean for me a

01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:40.320
big problem with joysticks is that every every game under the sun seems to have

01:17:38.400 --> 01:17:45.199
the calibration a little bit differently and and and the and the the response of

01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:51.320
them compared to something like force feedback actually isn't that great no so

01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:53.360
if this between the curvature and the

01:17:51.320 --> 01:17:57.440
haptic feedback like if it gets more intense towards the outer edges for a

01:17:55.080 --> 01:18:02.159
racing game if we're talking almost like fake force feedback and looking at the

01:18:00.400 --> 01:18:05.560
style of these touchpads actually one thing I was thinking about is if one of

01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:09.600
them was a wheel in a racing game you could spin it as if it was a wheel so

01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:14.600
there's there's actually I don't see that being practical but you probably

01:18:12.280 --> 01:18:18.600
you maybe could and and like it's it's it's just and how modable they are

01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:24.800
they're incredibly modable they're coming out and saying they want it to be hackable oh yeah right up front yeah so

01:18:22.480 --> 01:18:28.120
so with it being valve with it being this modable because the mod Community

01:18:26.679 --> 01:18:33.760
is going to go crazy and make this thing nuts it maybe they can pull it off does

01:18:31.280 --> 01:18:37.000
it replace a keyboard and mouse no of course not but they don't say it but you

01:18:35.120 --> 01:18:41.639
can plug that into your steam box and use a couch Master anyway does it

01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:44.600
replace a keyboard no of course not but you could still have something like a

01:18:43.040 --> 01:18:48.040
little wireless keyboard where is ours I think it's like lost um you could have a

01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:52.480
little wireless keyboard with a little track ball on it anyway to me I see this

01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:55.400
not even necessarily as a replacement for something like like an Xbox 360

01:18:54.000 --> 01:19:02.440
controller which is like the finest controller ever made other than the d-pad is kind of a pile of poo um it's

01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:06.880
not a replacement it's more like here's another way and and it will open the

01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:11.679
doors one thing I compatibility tool yeah I don't think they wanted to make

01:19:08.320 --> 01:19:13.679
another like dual Jo uh dual thumb stick

01:19:11.679 --> 01:19:16.400
with the dead and four buttons and two thingies like they didn't want to

01:19:14.679 --> 01:19:20.080
recreate something that everyone has made Under the Sun but with that said

01:19:18.080 --> 01:19:24.800
before I'd seen any pictures and before I'd read any articles the first word out

01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:27.520
of my mouth was Ed when I heard about it and I kind of went well are they being

01:19:26.400 --> 01:19:33.040
different for the sake of being different and then I kind of let myself sort of calm down and honestly I haven't

01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:38.239
even read any of the extra articles on it this is all just stuff I noticed while looking through theirs okay um but

01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.960
it's it's it's going to enable like I would never play Civ 5 with the default

01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:45.679
controller but I would play Civ 5 with this I wouldn't want to play a lot of

01:19:44.400 --> 01:19:50.320
simulation it's kind of like when Warcraft 2 came out on Playstation it's

01:19:48.440 --> 01:19:53.560
like ridiculous whereas this might bridge the gap Y and then a lot of

01:19:52.400 --> 01:19:58.880
simulation games like especially freaking Surgeon Simulator like that

01:19:56.400 --> 01:20:01.719
makes so much more sense right than with like it's it's it's interesting so I

01:20:00.639 --> 01:20:07.080
think it's going to open a lot of doors to other things and then stuff like Shooters with the right modding

01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:11.600
Community behind it maybe you can be way more accurate because I have a serious

01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:13.040
problem with controllers right now so

01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:17.280
maybe it will help and maybe it'll help bridge the gap between PC Gamers into

01:20:16.120 --> 01:20:21.719
the living room a little bit more because the second I touch a controller I'm like what is this I don't know what

01:20:20.080 --> 01:20:25.239
I'm doing all right someone someone someone's hitting me pretty hard in the

01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:29.199
twitch chat there lonus what is what does he say something like stop avoiding

01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:37.159
the question do you think it will be good and I'm going to say

01:20:32.120 --> 01:20:40.440
um based on the one person I found on

01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:44.080
Twitter who has tried an early version

01:20:40.440 --> 01:20:46.440
of it so Lord Chris Remo on Twitter who

01:20:44.080 --> 01:20:51.199
says I tried it the button configuration was different at the time but the cursor

01:20:48.360 --> 01:20:56.360
pads worked amazingly well I don't know who this guy is never never talk to him

01:20:53.800 --> 01:21:01.760
no idea why he has you know a 13,000 followers on Twitter or whatever else um

01:20:59.320 --> 01:21:07.000
but he says yes the haptic feedback makes it feel like you're actually

01:21:03.679 --> 01:21:10.120
operating a real physically mechanical

01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:12.239
device not just a touchcreen wow if I

01:21:10.120 --> 01:21:16.480
found someone who tried an early sample and is saying that about it if I

01:21:14.280 --> 01:21:21.520
inherently trust valve which I kind of do yeah um I I you know what here I'll

01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:28.040
go ahead and say I I'll say there's going to be a learning curve because I think we can all agree on that but it's

01:21:25.080 --> 01:21:33.320
going to be usable it it's it's definit it's like I don't even think you can

01:21:30.360 --> 01:21:37.320
debate if it'll be usable or not I would have questioned it at the beginning for

01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:41.719
Civ 5 and other simulation games it'll obviously be better than in my opinion

01:21:39.040 --> 01:21:45.480
than a a a controller with thumb sticks but I I think it'll be depending on how

01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:51.320
good those touchpads are and if you take his word for all the Merit it could be

01:21:47.400 --> 01:21:53.560
taken for umide it could be great but I

01:21:51.320 --> 01:21:56.880
just it's a touch pad touchpad scare me I'm I'm a big advocate of overuse of

01:21:55.400 --> 01:22:00.480
touchpads are ridiculous because when you go to the store and you have to use

01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:03.360
the debit machine and you only have to select what account you want to use with

01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:08.480
the freaking touch pad and it's like why do I have to why do I have to do this

01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:09.800
it's like unnecessary touch sucks but if

01:22:08.480 --> 01:22:14.520
they've done it well then great so I want to move on to this is actually one

01:22:12.400 --> 01:22:18.679
of our one we're running out of time here but I feel like this is probably

01:22:16.320 --> 01:22:27.159
going to be our last big topic this week bit torrent um has a legit leg reason

01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:29.440
for existing that goes beyond like Linux

01:22:27.159 --> 01:22:32.719
dros which is obviously the joke that pirates make is why do you have you torn

01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:37.600
on your computer because I download Linux distros

01:22:34.719 --> 01:22:40.880
um the art is the cash this is this is an article on Venture beat the artist

01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:45.000
the cash register bit torrant releases bundles in Alpha so you guys should

01:22:43.360 --> 01:22:51.639
definitely check out the full article but I'm just going to go back to my notes here really quick um so what

01:22:48.639 --> 01:22:54.600
bundles will do is they will bundle

01:22:51.639 --> 01:22:59.880
content and a payment system now we're not talking payment system like um Cash

01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:03.280
Money necessarily we're talking about some kind of content it could be we're

01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:08.120
talking some kind of content whether it's music or movies or like I mean

01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:12.360
honestly I saw this and I've been thinking about doing like um a vlog

01:23:10.400 --> 01:23:17.440
series or like beh a Behind the-scenes series hiring like a dedicated guy to

01:23:15.120 --> 01:23:21.960
just do that around here for a while but I don't necessarily want that everywhere

01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:26.880
and I don't want and I've promised my viewers that we are not going to move to

01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:29.639
a pay model so I've done those things

01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:33.639
make it like a like a so oh okay hold on so bundles could contain some kind of

01:23:31.480 --> 01:23:38.560
content that you pay for but not necessarily with cash so here are some

01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:43.600
suggestions maybe you pay for it with a like a tweet an email address or

01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:49.719
newsletter sign up a holy crap that's amazing maybe you pay

01:23:48.120 --> 01:23:52.760
for it by seeding although I don't know how I don't know how that could be

01:23:51.120 --> 01:23:57.920
enforced but but all of a a sudden there's a flexibility to the payment

01:23:55.360 --> 01:24:03.880
that comes along with content it's been being said for years that the problem is

01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:07.960
not distribtion yes go okay you talk about it the problem is the dist steam

01:24:05.719 --> 01:24:13.600
has said this a lot um because people have been seeing uh piracy rates go down

01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:17.040
as their games go on Steam instead of being their own launcher like if you

01:24:15.480 --> 01:24:20.679
have to download the executable install itself your piracy rates are going to be

01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:24.360
higher than if it's on Steam because people see it on Steam and they're like

01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:27.880
oh that's easy it's going to work all the time I don't have to deal with all

01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:31.639
these problems but then it's also not DRM down my throat and absolutely

01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:35.360
ridiculous the whole time so I'll just buy it on there's still DRM on Steam but

01:24:33.280 --> 01:24:38.639
it's much easier to deal with um so I'll just get it on Steam so Gabe new has

01:24:37.440 --> 01:24:42.239
been saying distribution is a problem forever everyone knows that the main

01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:48.840
reason things are pirated is because they're so freaking hard to get so like

01:24:46.400 --> 01:24:52.800
annoying it's it's well a large part of the reason a reason that things are PIR

01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:56.239
large part of the reason a reason let's say a reason I'm say we can okay well I

01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:59.840
will say a reason cuz I don't necessarily agree with well as music has

01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:04.199
become easier to get piracy rates have massively gone down that's true so it's

01:25:01.480 --> 01:25:08.679
a large but piracy still exists so let's say a reason I'm still saying large

01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:12.920
until until piracy is gone we can't empirically determine I'm not saying the

01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:18.400
reason I'm saying a large part of how do we know we can't the percentage is gone

01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:23.360
down by so much okay until we know how much piracy there actually is exactly we

01:25:20.639 --> 01:25:27.520
won't know you can pretty can guess but you won't know for sure you can get

01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:34.119
pretty freaking close we disagree but anyway um yeah it'll help yes okay uh

01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:37.960
artists are going to love this because instead of their music like if they kind

01:25:36.480 --> 01:25:43.320
of go okay people are going to download things off off of Torrance anyway and if

01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:47.320
they happen to take that philosophy and go okay well then what I'll do is I'll

01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:51.239
include um in order to I I'll I'll just I'll just SE it out there myself and as

01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:55.400
long as you follow me on Twitter then I'm down then down go ahead have have

01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:58.840
have the song then especially musicians lately are releasing their albums for

01:25:56.920 --> 01:26:01.440
free anyways because they find no point because not enough people are buying

01:25:59.960 --> 01:26:05.119
them especially when they're smaller musicians so if you if you release a new

01:26:03.440 --> 01:26:10.280
version of it every once in a while that requires people to tweet about your

01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:13.520
upcoming concert or to uh link on your

01:26:10.280 --> 01:26:15.000
Facebook to their merchandise store holy

01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:19.800
crap that helps them more that's the future I mean that's amazing so Madonna

01:26:17.719 --> 01:26:24.000
Lincoln Park Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart already using it um Tim

01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:29.000
Ferris says it drove an additional 880,000 Amazon impressions for his book

01:26:27.040 --> 01:26:33.639
in his experience there is no faster method for getting multimedia content to

01:26:31.080 --> 01:26:37.639
the fans this is is just totally gamechanging and I think goes a long way

01:26:35.400 --> 01:26:42.159
towards legitimizing bit torrent yeah that's because For the Longest Time bit

01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:47.159
torr's been like we're not actually bad really we're not just for pirating but

01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:51.639
we can't tell you what else we're for we're we're we're a tool just people are

01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:56.119
there's like four Dudes that released their albums on it like you could

01:26:53.960 --> 01:27:02.520
probably also find them on like YouTube or what billion other places um so this

01:27:00.080 --> 01:27:07.080
is this is amazing it's really good for them I think this week rather than

01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:10.280
trying to go really in depth into some of the other content that we have I

01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:14.719
think we call that it for our major topics I want to I want to Blitz through

01:27:12.360 --> 01:27:19.480
a couple here I mean Blackberry has a potential Suitor um I think what was it

01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:24.679
9 billion or something like that so $9 per share I think it's 47 billion sorry

01:27:21.440 --> 01:27:26.639
$9 per share and um I was talking to Sam

01:27:24.679 --> 01:27:31.080
Reynolds from VR Zone while I was at the AMD event and he was saying uh one of

01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:36.280
the reasons he thinks it could potentially happen in time is that it is

01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:39.360
a Canadian uh interest that's looking at

01:27:36.280 --> 01:27:41.639
them and that actually could save months

01:27:39.360 --> 01:27:45.360
of investigation and Analysis and all that like if they want the if they want

01:27:43.400 --> 01:27:50.679
foreign investors to come in and and own the company which is traditionally a

01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:52.119
Canadian company um I mean that and that

01:27:50.679 --> 01:27:57.239
I think would make a lot of people feel feel a lot better about it as well um so

01:27:55.159 --> 01:28:02.560
that was um that was one of the big things this week obviously uh this is

01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:06.920
pretty funny the fake Apple ad says iOS 7 will make your iPhone waterproof and

01:28:04.639 --> 01:28:11.760
people fell for it so the update claimed that iOS 7 uh will in an emergency shut

01:28:10.320 --> 01:28:15.639
off your phone's power supply and corresponding components to prevent any

01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:20.520
damage to your iPhone's delicate circuitry um so apparently people

01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:26.520
expressed their outrage on Twitter one angry Tweeter said okay whoever said iOS

01:28:23.280 --> 01:28:29.159
7 is waterproof go f yourself um so

01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:34.360
that's that's pretty hilarious and I quite frankly I hope no one watching did

01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:37.159
that because dude or dad or whoever you

01:28:34.360 --> 01:28:42.600
are yeah yeah had it coming for you um next up is auss Rog bench I mean

01:28:41.040 --> 01:28:46.840
honestly we don't have enough benchmarking tools we really don't

01:28:44.719 --> 01:28:51.480
particularly for certain aspects of the system like storage there's a few but

01:28:49.040 --> 01:28:53.920
they're highly synthetic and or or they're expensive So speaking of which

01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:58.639
did we get that figured out with future Mark did you hear back from them yeah I have yeah are we are we doing it yeah

01:28:57.119 --> 01:29:02.960
we're good okay we are we are going to be testing using the upcoming uh the

01:29:00.679 --> 01:29:06.199
upcoming future Mark what is it called future Mark 8 uh so we're going to be

01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:09.560
using that for our storage testing I'm extremely excited about their new suite

01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:13.639
it looks much more comprehensive than their previous ones but right now it

01:29:11.480 --> 01:29:17.080
wasn't available unless you get the Uber license so we've worked out a deal with

01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:22.040
them to get the Uber license so we're going to be bringing you some of that over the next little bit here uh but

01:29:20.280 --> 01:29:28.719
anyway this is unrelated to Future mark this is the Rog real bench and ASUS has

01:29:25.400 --> 01:29:30.840
an FAQ that's on rog. ASUS.com um if you

01:29:28.719 --> 01:29:34.480
just search for Rog realbench free app download you'll be able to bring that up

01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:37.639
or you can check out the uh the stream doc which I'll post in the lonus

01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:41.760
rambling section of the Linus Tech tips Forum but they've got an FAQ here that I

01:29:39.719 --> 01:29:46.280
think really covered all my questions the first or the the second question is

01:29:44.360 --> 01:29:51.400
it's Rog realbench so there must be ASUS favoritism right and they're like no

01:29:47.719 --> 01:29:54.199
open source apps no ASUS BIOS or uh bias

01:29:51.400 --> 01:29:59.199
at all I like that it's open source love it love it I mean this this is one of

01:29:56.760 --> 01:30:02.119
the things that that that I really feel like companies can do to differentiate

01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:05.760
their products that has nothing to do with the product things like even AI

01:30:04.320 --> 01:30:10.880
charge have you ever used AI charge from isus yes works on any computer and

01:30:08.480 --> 01:30:15.280
allows any USB port to charge a tablet it's like oh wow thank you ASUS now I

01:30:13.440 --> 01:30:19.280
now I think of you and I install your app on my computer regardless of what

01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:22.679
kind of computer it is that is that is marketing that is like awesome marketing

01:30:21.440 --> 01:30:28.600
the first that will come to mind when you go to buy something is going to be them so if every if every overclocker

01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:33.119
starts using Rog real bench like that gets that branding out there I mean

01:30:30.679 --> 01:30:37.119
another example our sponsor Razer Razer comms make it for everyone don't require

01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:40.719
people to buy a bright green headset you know not everyone wants a bright green

01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:44.679
headset we get that we we saw your we saw your comments on Twitter we saw your

01:30:42.719 --> 01:30:48.080
comments in the twitch chat does Razer have a not bright green headset yeah

01:30:46.080 --> 01:30:52.000
they do but you know this one happens to be bright green um but but getting

01:30:50.719 --> 01:30:56.679
getting that branding out there is is huge to me and there's only a few benchmarks right now but they're

01:30:54.960 --> 01:31:00.000
committed to continuing and and they're taking user sub submissions for

01:30:58.440 --> 01:31:02.960
benchmarks so I know I'm going to submit a few that I already think are good

01:31:01.440 --> 01:31:06.800
ideas that they could add and if you guys have some open-source benchmarks

01:31:05.040 --> 01:31:10.480
that you guys would think would be a good idea submit it and they'll and

01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:15.520
they're keeping it real and up to date it's x64 only cuz they're like yeah well

01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:18.840
we just think that you need to get with the times if you're running x86 and I'm

01:31:17.480 --> 01:31:25.080
more than okay with love it I mean that's like AMD's 290x no an L output

01:31:23.040 --> 01:31:31.159
VGA is gone and I'm not talking the connector is gone the pins are gone it's

01:31:27.639 --> 01:31:33.080
gone I'm like good because that needs to

01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:37.000
that needs to go away it's done it's done by VGA so I'm really excited about

01:31:35.679 --> 01:31:40.719
that we'll definitely bring you guys a video in the next little bit once we've

01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:44.320
uh had a chance to try it out Twitch TV no longer automatically archives

01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:47.400
broadcasts um that's a bad way I actually yeah yeah that happened last

01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:51.440
week to us I actually spent some time talking to their coo at PA and I have a

01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:56.480
little bit of insight as to why they're doing that so YouTube um has you know X

01:31:54.840 --> 01:32:01.480
number of hours of video uploaded every minute or whatever it works out too but

01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:04.440
they transcode it which even though it's processing intensive dramatically

01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:09.440
reduces the storage requirements on their side twitch just goes here we go

01:32:07.320 --> 01:32:16.159
full Balls to the walls 1080p game stream that ran for 14 hours or how

01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:18.280
right their storage needs were just

01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:22.280
becoming ridiculous last week I went for 12 hours their storage needs were

01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:26.639
getting ridiculous as they've continued to explode and you

01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:29.679
I mean they got to invest in network infrastructure they got to invest in

01:32:28.280 --> 01:32:34.040
processing they got to invest in security and blah blah blah it's like

01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:39.440
look but we bought enough hard drives already everyone just calm down um so I

01:32:37.440 --> 01:32:42.320
I totally understand why they're doing that I he didn't tell me at the time

01:32:41.080 --> 01:32:46.840
that they were planning to implement this but what he what he did say is our

01:32:44.360 --> 01:32:51.000
storage needs are getting ridiculous we have to do something and you can still

01:32:49.080 --> 01:32:58.239
enable them they're just not enabled by default which I think I think is a really good compromise yeah um NVIDIA

01:32:55.440 --> 01:33:01.840
has come out and said um you know we're we're we really want to support Linx uh

01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:05.920
they they've sent out some Tweets we're all about gaming we feel gaming is so

01:33:03.719 --> 01:33:09.760
important uh and lonus torold has actually responded so NVIDIA kind of

01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:14.760
said look 1,000 watt PC will not lose to a 200 watt Xbox um even though most PCS

01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:19.080
aren't running at 1,000 watts and they uh they say they want to support Linux

01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:22.520
in the wake of steam and hopefully they'll be able to leverage mantle or

01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:27.280
some kind of man like technology it's been it's it's apparently been confirmed

01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:30.320
that mantle is open I I wasn't so that's

01:33:27.280 --> 01:33:32.199
my comments uh in the document earlier

01:33:30.320 --> 01:33:35.960
and when I was talking I I got kind of corrected by YouTube but I had no idea

01:33:34.080 --> 01:33:39.400
it was open I thought it was just AMD I thought it was AMD didn't say it was

01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:44.400
open during the presentation yeah that's I watched the presentation was like um

01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:50.199
apparently been confirmed now so I I really doubt really cool I doubt NVIDIA

01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:55.280
would be willing to do let's see let's see if NVIDIA can a lot of AMD stuff's

01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:58.960
open open I know but it's not like NVIDIA really focuses on open CL I I

01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:01.920
know I'm just saying like I'm not surprised that it is that way I just I

01:34:00.639 --> 01:34:07.320
was watching the presentation I didn't say it so lonus torval has responded to

01:34:04.080 --> 01:34:10.639
this commitment saying um you know

01:34:07.320 --> 01:34:14.320
famously lonus tals gave the bird to

01:34:10.639 --> 01:34:16.639
NVIDIA and uh said NVIDIA and I don't

01:34:14.320 --> 01:34:22.080
have live like bleeping out of stuff but you know F you Fu NVIDIA blah blah blah

01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:25.520
you don't support us properly NVIDIA's come out and said look we're going to do

01:34:23.360 --> 01:34:29.920
an open driver well they they they've been it's been publicly known that

01:34:27.639 --> 01:34:33.239
NVIDIA has been the hardest Hardware manufacturer for Linux to work with at

01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:37.199
all so he's basically said look I'm not willing to issue an apology for that yet

01:34:35.679 --> 01:34:42.040
but let's wait and see let's give him a chance and my battery just died so um

01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:45.560
builds of the week I guess let's uh let's move on or do we have any other

01:34:43.320 --> 01:34:48.480
topics that are I I feel like that's not that important that's more I just

01:34:46.639 --> 01:34:53.000
thought it would be funny I should have put it in after there's there's an upcoming uh movie you want to cover that

01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:57.360
while I load up the builds of theek it's not really big deal I was going to bring it up an Afterparty I just put in the

01:34:55.840 --> 01:35:02.000
wrong section but there's an upcoming Hollywood film that is based on the

01:34:59.440 --> 01:35:08.280
great Quebec maple syrup Heist so it's starring Jason Seagal or seagull I'm not

01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:10.480
actually seagull yeah Jason seagull um

01:35:08.280 --> 01:35:15.639
yeah and it's based on the $18 million syrup Heist which is pretty Beast um I

01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:20.280
just wish there was 14 members of the team apparently there was uh 24 so if

01:35:18.440 --> 01:35:25.840
there's 14 it would it would it would be like oceans 14 m Ser

01:35:22.440 --> 01:35:27.119
Edition but oh well that's unfortunate I

01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:33.480
was I was really hoping when I was reading through I I remembered this cuz it's based on a real event I was of the

01:35:31.080 --> 01:35:38.639
week uh it's in the WAN folder Wan folder okay I'll find it um I was I was

01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:42.440
really hoping because I I like reread the old news article when they were

01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:46.920
talking about this massive Heist of maple syrup and I was really hoping it

01:35:44.320 --> 01:35:51.760
was a team of 14 people but it was 24 so it's close enough so I'm I'm calling

01:35:48.400 --> 01:35:53.199
this movie unofficially oceans 24 uh

01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:57.880
because I love the oceans movies and I love heist movies cuz I just think they're so cool me too they're just

01:35:56.320 --> 01:36:02.000
they're yeah they're awesome so we're going to hopefully get to the slide soon

01:36:00.080 --> 01:36:06.440
here yeah no I'm I'm I'm ready to rock I think scene six is not the one okay so

01:36:04.679 --> 01:36:10.520
let's go ahead and remove that let's add a screen region boom add the whole

01:36:08.280 --> 01:36:14.920
screen and boom build logs of the week and well okay let's make it big a little

01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:22.400
better than that all right here we go from the beginning liquid cooled fractal

01:36:17.639 --> 01:36:24.119
by DG so this is just yeah fairly

01:36:22.400 --> 01:36:29.800
self-explanatory it's just freaking beautiful I love that it's it looks so

01:36:27.440 --> 01:36:35.080
sharp it looks so clean I maintain the D5 is the only Pump That Matters and

01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:39.280
it's ugly as all sin when you don't custom mod it but this looks great y

01:36:38.080 --> 01:36:43.920
I've actually seen that quite a bit lately y it's become very popular when

01:36:41.480 --> 01:36:49.000
bit Phenix or bits power did the first D5 mod kit I refused to stock it when I

01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:52.679
was when I was carrying them at NCIX cuz I was like this is stupid no one's going

01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:57.000
to pay that much to mod their pumps but what I didn't think about at the time

01:36:54.960 --> 01:37:00.719
was well hold on a second people are going to have owned D5 pumps for two

01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:05.199
years they're going to have no reason to upgrade it they're going to be redoing their Loop and they they're spending

01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:10.840
less than the amount of buying a new pump on just making their old pump look great and d5s are so reliable I've been

01:37:08.679 --> 01:37:13.840
running mine for years and with with form factors of computers going down

01:37:12.480 --> 01:37:18.239
people want smaller cases to go along with it and you can't really hide them that easily yeah so you might as well

01:37:16.679 --> 01:37:22.199
make it look awesome yeah exactly speaking of looking awesome Dam angled

01:37:19.960 --> 01:37:25.600
fittings that white tube very very gorgeous so that's the Define

01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:30.080
R4 for those of you who don't already know just a great looking setup he's got

01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:36.440
right there all right ultimate cooling machine from Death

01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:38.440
boy hey this is the first tj7 build

01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:43.000
we've featured on the L show I think so we had the yellow one was that tj07 I

01:37:41.520 --> 01:37:47.280
think it was I might be wrong maybe that was tj1 I think it was tj1 or tj1 okay

01:37:45.400 --> 01:37:51.599
maybe so uh do you mind if I take point on this one go for it are those hard

01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:55.280
pipes oh my goodness that's is an amazing build

01:37:53.239 --> 01:37:59.199
beautiful be wait sorry I'm just going to interject one little thing um just

01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:03.159
like always be sure to check this out on the Forum but this guy especially cuz he

01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:07.719
like stripped the whole case himself so he has progress shots of like going down

01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:10.599
to the metal and it just it looks awesome and he's got really nice camera

01:38:09.360 --> 01:38:16.360
so all of his shots look great this is amazing so there's there's a couple things here so first of all that front

01:38:14.400 --> 01:38:21.159
panel that stealth front panel looks fantastic I personally would have left

01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:23.000
this so that I can have front USB or or

01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:26.920
front card reader or something I I I personally did opt to have that still

01:38:25.480 --> 01:38:30.840
accessible on mine I think that's important um this is something I've seen

01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:35.920
done before and I actually wanted to do on mine so this dramatically improves

01:38:33.480 --> 01:38:40.199
the uh the the restrictiveness of the stock grills down here which they're

01:38:38.440 --> 01:38:44.639
very very restrictive and if you do it right you can get it curved just right

01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:48.800
and it actually looks very very very very good um the fact that the case is

01:38:46.599 --> 01:38:52.040
painted means that he was able to paint the grill so that it matches the case

01:38:50.400 --> 01:38:55.440
which is problem I've seen with some people who have done this mod where it

01:38:53.639 --> 01:39:01.840
doesn't match the case anymore these hard pipes are outstanding so that's a

01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:03.320
liquid cooled Rampage 4 uh with what

01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:08.840
what are these these look like they must be oh crap oh they're GTX 680s you can

01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:11.800
tell from the Stacked PCI the stream's so long that by the time we get to this

01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:16.639
part I forget the components yeah yeah it's fine uh so oh man Dem hard pipes

01:39:14.400 --> 01:39:19.199
xspc is sort of a funny Choice cuz it's more value oriented but I'm guessing

01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:24.119
they were sponsor for the build or something like that and it looks really SHP and it looks it goes along with he

01:39:22.080 --> 01:39:28.119
has a very silver like I don't have a shot of his monitors that night shot

01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:31.880
yeah I had to include that but he has a very silver based things so it actually

01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:35.560
kind of works I mean this ties into the uh the discussion you and I were having

01:39:34.040 --> 01:39:41.480
oh oh wow there's another one the discussion you and I were having about how do you shop for RAM these days and

01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:47.639
like by looks yeah Dominator platinums hands down so uh yeah incredibly good um

01:39:45.320 --> 01:39:53.639
but the next one once you jump along thisd this was added because of like

01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:57.000
like it's a nice build okay what's with that fan that's awesome you're going to

01:39:55.280 --> 01:40:04.960
be wondering about a few things the main thing that you should be wondering about is actually that which you got to that

01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:07.000
that are you confused yet this this box

01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:12.080
that goes up here oh well hold on a second this box goes all the way up here

01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:16.199
oh is that all the C wait what what is this okay now now that you've seen it

01:40:14.679 --> 01:40:21.599
and you see where it's shooting out and do you see like there's a cut there and a cut there oh cool is that just

01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:26.520
cardboard something just click forward fine there is his design so he has built

01:40:24.320 --> 01:40:32.880
a vent for the basement that can shoot up and then directly flow air over his

01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:37.480
cards I had to include this build but I also had to include the other builds oh

01:40:35.480 --> 01:40:42.159
cool so this is actually it's funny because this is like uh this is like a

01:40:39.280 --> 01:40:46.760
ghetto a ghetto rig in some ways because this is a very archaic way of doing GPU

01:40:45.440 --> 01:40:51.199
water cooling you can see he's got individual RAM syns on there for the RAM

01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:55.480
components he's got like air cooling sitting over it back in the day we used

01:40:52.760 --> 01:41:00.320
to use like antech spot cools for this um and then he's got individual GPU

01:40:57.599 --> 01:41:03.560
blocks I still have two MCW 60s that you can easily make cting mounting hardware

01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:07.639
for anything you want aren't they over there yeah yeah they're in the pile

01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:14.360
there and at some point I kind of want to do like a dual MCW 60 and my original

01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:15.960
apog liquid cool build just for laws I'd

01:41:14.360 --> 01:41:19.119
want to redo the mounting hardware and then get it like uh coated I get it

01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:25.239
powder coated by Mountain mods or something that be cool although I'm kind of mad them about my case but um yeah

01:41:23.599 --> 01:41:29.360
that's it but I I just I had to include that guy's build cuz that vent is just

01:41:27.360 --> 01:41:33.159
that's so cool what a cool what a cool build what a cool idea I I like that I

01:41:31.599 --> 01:41:37.320
mean it's one thing when we let the manufacturers choose for us how to

01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:41.080
direct airf flow or whatever else but it's a whole other one when we uh when

01:41:39.599 --> 01:41:44.880
we just kind of take matters into our own hands and and customize things like

01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:48.560
that nope this is how it's going to work one quick more thing I don't I think he

01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:52.480
might be looking up for something but before we end here um I also want to do

01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:56.080
another shout out for the boink and folding teams we're doing amazingly well

01:41:54.480 --> 01:42:00.159
I don't have the exact numbers on me right now which wher might try and kill

01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:04.280
me over because he's probably sent them for to me but anyways U they're doing

01:42:02.599 --> 01:42:07.400
incredibly well so be sure to sign up on those teams cuz it's for a good cause

01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:11.280
all right now I have one last thing for you guys and I'm going to go ahead and

01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:17.599
just say this outright um what my motivation is for this uh this is LG's

01:42:14.360 --> 01:42:19.320
G2 product information video uh for all

01:42:17.599 --> 01:42:23.520
intents and purposes the W show is kind of over now but I would appreciate

01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:28.320
very much if you guys would stay tuned for the next 3 or 4 minutes you'll learn

01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:31.960
a little bit about the LG G2 which is their Flagship Android smartphone and

01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:35.000
could very well I mean uh Marcus brownley covered this pretty well in his

01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:40.400
video on the phone but this could very well be very close to what we're going

01:42:37.040 --> 01:42:43.000
to see as the next Nexus device so guys

01:42:40.400 --> 01:42:47.239
watch the video because I told them look okay yeah I will I will I'll put that

01:42:45.080 --> 01:42:51.280
video out there for my viewers to see if you can get us a phone so we can make

01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:55.679
our own video about it because otherwise we don't really have access to phones

01:42:53.400 --> 01:42:59.000
very easily in particular LG we've never worked with them in the past so I

01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:02.239
figured maybe this is a good way to kick things off and so guys if you really

01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:06.599
don't want to watch it then tune out otherwise uh please do please do check

01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:06.599
it out

01:43:19.679 --> 01:43:28.469
here

01:43:49.679 --> 01:43:52.679
oh

01:44:19.599 --> 01:44:27.419
a

01:45:19.480 --> 01:45:22.480
w

01:46:19.400 --> 01:46:22.400
a

01:46:49.960 --> 01:46:52.400
I'm

01:47:02.679 --> 01:47:10.040
all right so if you wow 4,000 of you are still here thank you that's actually

01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:13.320
fantastic because uh hopefully we can try out some of those features I

01:47:11.719 --> 01:47:18.199
actually hadn't watched the video yet to be perfectly to be perfectly honest um

01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:22.520
but we were we were looking at some of those kind of wondering okay well what

01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:26.679
are they I mean the um the voic mate thing sounded to me kind of like sexting

01:47:24.400 --> 01:47:32.400
but like voice like voic mating that's how you got to that I was

01:47:30.040 --> 01:47:35.800
like what are you even talking about how does that possibly we were like we were

01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:40.119
like Whispering whispering to each other during the during the video you know we

01:47:37.440 --> 01:47:43.800
were we're all like hey did you see that wow that's cool uh things like the audio

01:47:42.040 --> 01:47:46.400
Zoom I think that would be cool stuff to just kind of try out and find out if it

01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:50.920
works so we'd love to get our hands on the phone uh without further Ado guys

01:47:49.239 --> 01:47:54.639
thank you so much for tuning into the W show this week I hope you found it to be

01:47:52.679 --> 01:47:57.960
a fun and enjoyable episode if you're just tuning in now or if you tuned in

01:47:56.360 --> 01:48:04.000
sort of later on in the Stream we always upload the VOD onto YouTube and we are

01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:07.239
automatically archiving to Twitch still we have that set now so you can also

01:48:05.800 --> 01:48:11.199
check it out there if you don't want to wait for the Youtube upload but whenever

01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:15.639
the show doesn't get interrupted we can get it up on YouTube really really fast

01:48:13.599 --> 01:48:19.239
as long as they don't uh you know put any of those 18 plus restrictions on the

01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:22.239
videos of us doing so

01:48:50.719 --> 01:48:56.520
K everyone stop asking

01:48:53.840 --> 01:49:01.840
me I get so many messages we should just leave this here

01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:05.639
at the end of every show so people who miss it can just see this yeah and we

01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:09.159
should just leave it streaming okay guys that's it show's over we're just going

01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:12.639
to leave that there so y'all can stop asking us on Twitter we love your

01:49:11.280 --> 01:49:16.760
Twitter messages we just want you to tweet us about something else we could

01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:21.520
actually do that cuz technically what we could do is end the stream now so we have the video file finished then start

01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:25.320
streaming again take off the camera stream so it's not pulling from the mic

01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:30.400
and just leave the computer do this yeah okay maybe like temporary temporarily

01:49:27.159 --> 01:49:30.400
take off twitch AR peace out ever