show covering everything that's hot and new and interesting whether it's on the
gaming side technology side or just introducing the show which I realized we
never do which we did last week did you
oh okay oh wait introducing the show is in like this is the W show yeah like
like what exactly are you watching right now and why why would you possibly care
about it it's sort of uh sort of an important thing but yeah there you go so
guys we have a ton of like just
completely ridiculously crazy topics
this week extremely excited about them U we have
our special guest Austin Evans AKA
Duncan 3333 on YouTube if you've never heard of
him before then go go check him out because he's a sexy beast and he's going
to be joining us in about 25 minutes on the show to talk we hope well okay he
just fried the outlet that powers his computer so I guess he's probably
looking for an extension to right now but and I I'll be quoted on this no
self-respecting geek should ever be without a reasonably nearby extension
cord so Austin you better have one uh so
we're going to have him on as a guest he was with me in Hawaii so yeah he says
all should be good now had to switch to extension cables yeah yeah there you go
man um so he was with me in Hawaii and saw all of the demonstrations and
presentations the live one which everyone saw and the NDA one which we
cannot talk about AMD won't even tell us what the NDA date is for the NDA it's
like w just to be determined Beast so we're going to talk about that we're
also going to talk about the steam Triple Threat announcements go boom okay
so the first one was Steam OS which was in my opinion the biggest one because
the next one people kind of already knew but Steam OS is a Linux platform that
steam is kind of editing to themselves we'll go into that in more depth later
and then Steam Machines which are the the steam box that people were talking
about forever there's more information about that and then a steam controller
that doesn't have thumb sticks it has
touchpad small small head explosion I mean my head's exploding but not
necessarily for the reasons that the other two made my head explode other
things that did make my head explode though NVIDIA has come out and said look
we're going to give better to sport to Linux and that is obviously a huge deal
and who knows maybe slightly related to that more on that I'm we're teasing the
topics you know we can't tell you everything right now and the chaos
Computer Club has broken the fingerprint scanner on the iPhone 5S already but I'm
going to play Devil's Advocate a little bit when we're discussing this because I don't necessarily think that's that big
of a deal so without further Ado here's the intro and a short word from our
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jump right into our first topic which isn't one that we teased Surface Pro 2
it's a thing it it's a thing and it's and it's more of an interesting thing
than I think the original one was because they fixed a lot of those kind
of glaring problems the battery life is way better um color accuracy is better
on the screen which is interesting but already had a pretty good screen yeah it
was okay I mean the thing to me that's uh that's actually more interesting here
is not only Surface 2 is coming and has
a more color accurate screen but or rather Surface Pro two Surface 2 which I
guess they would call surface rt2 if Surface RT didn't have such a terrible
terrible reputation um is also coming and is also getting a 1080p screen
upgrade okay so now both Surface Pro 2
and Surface 2 the RT version which makes
makes the naming very confusing are going to have 1080p screens uh there's a
variety of other improvements so guys the original article here is from and
Gadget but I think the biggest ones are going to be well Haswell Haswell is huge
for Surface Pro 2 I mean uh we're looking at I think they're quoting so
double digits better performance so 20 to 30% better per performance something
along those lines and a
75% better battery even when Surface Pro
first launched we both talked about we're interested in this one CU it's an
interesting product but we're interested in when it comes out with Haswell yes we
said that like way back so it now that's here and that's actually really cool and
I mean this is part of the uh well what this does is I guess it validates um it
validates Intel's approach with Haswell where they came out and they said look
it's well they didn't come out and say it but it was pretty obvious this is not
uh an Enthusiast desktop gaming CPU that's not what this is for uh what this
is for is it's for Energy Efficiency
particularly U making it more scalable down to much smaller form factors so uh
Microsoft has made some other improvements to the device as well so
for example there's a new power cover that actually improves battery life by 2
and 1/2 times so if we do some quick math Here original surface was good for
sort of three and A2 to 4 and 1/2 hours of battery which is not enough for a
tablet so 75% better puts us around 6 and 1/2 hours battery and then the 2
half times would put us around 15 to 18 hours of battery like 15 16 hours of
battery now we're talking yeah that gets a lot better now we're talking this is a
productivity device cuz to me that was the appeal of Surface RT for that matter
and surface was that now all of a sudden it's a a mobile device that is genuinely
genuinely portable and tablety but also genuinely productive um and and I mean
here's the thing though is actually this isn't on our this isn't really on our
topics but I want to I want to discuss this so okay Surface 2 Surface Pro 2
okay it's got better battery life it's got an okay screen uh the new T the new
type cover which is the cover that sits on it that actually has a tactile
keyboard so not the touch cover which was just touch sensitive is back lit now
and slightly thinner and it's slightly thinner so so there's all these things
but realistically if you wanted something that was in between ablet and
a laptop nowadays do you just pick up a convertible so something like this where
you flip the screen around boom if you really wanted a Windows 8 tablet now you
have one and like there is situations where a tablet would be better if you
want to be able to walk around I've used this like four times now since the last
time I talked about this when I created a video before I left I think I said three times and I used it like this once
on my trip I was like watching Netflix videos and I put it up like this cuz
that was slightly more convenient in that scar personally I don't really care
but I have seen like uh I used to work in a like a warehouse type thing and one
of the guys bought a one of those old HP
spin around they can't see your hands when you put them down there there we go
old HP laptops where you could take the screen and spin it around like this
terrible little hinge in the single hinge in the middle yeah he'd have one
of those that he could walk down and write notes down okay cuz that was
better for him so so maybe it's not the best use case for you or me I wouldn't
care but it might be a better use case for some people out there and the pro
two still has the stylus whereas the Surface 2 um does not come with a stylus
I mean the pricing is uh okay hold on let's let's finish talking about it a
little bit more so um they've improved the kickstand so the kickstand I
actually liked the kickstand cuz their whole thing with kickstand was that they
wanted it to feel like like a car door was what they compared it to you know
SH now has two settings so instead of
being stuck at the like the one angle the only one
Angle now you can actually adjust it to a couple different angles I mean this is
a problem that is that not only plagued Surface Pro but also other convertibles
like I've actually grown to really like Dell's implementation of their
convertible uh tablet notebook thing convertible Ultrabook I guess that's
what it's called sorry sorry for anyone in didn't tell who's watching uh it's not a tablet it's not a notebook it's an
Ultra Book um so convertible Ultrabook I mean but uh we have a Sony voo du 13 did
you check that thing out no it's it's only one angle the uh electronics are
actually exposed when the Hing is open okay it doesn't close so that the glass
of the screen can go down on top of the keyboard and it can be protected on both
sides the screen stays up even when you
close it uh so it's just a tablet or just a tablet that's propped up like to
me that's not really convertible yeah I like that style more I think this feels
better to me or something like Lenovo Yoga where it has the
3 um so so I mean that's that's sort of
my take is do you want to go Surface 2 where you get the thinner form factor
cuz it really is you're getting great battery life out of it if you go
something like a battery cover um or do you want the slightly bulkier but
potentially more versatile I mean this is going to have a better keyboard than even the the type cover uh it comes down
to what you want to choose and I I mean I think if you put Surface Pro in the
context of pricing it compared to a
convertible Ultra Book it starts to get
more appealing yeah if you if you compare it to other tablets not so much
so at $8.99 for a 64 gig 4 gig RAM
version and it scales up to I think 512 and 8 gig if I recall correctly don't
quote me on that though uh so that starts at $900 that is an extremely
expensive 64 gig tablet but it comes with a 1.6 GHz Core i5 has well
processor in it which makes it dramatically more powerful
than your other um but but then I mean
if you look at something like this or something like an Aspire S7 or a super
notbook you're paying over $1,000 for sure but then it probably doesn't come
in such a low spec config so it it comes down to your needs but Surface Pro 2 is
to me a really important step because Surface Pro made no sense due to its low
battery life Surface Pro 2 now we could
actually go okay yeah there's a scenario for this yeah there's a person that this
product fits with um so that that makes
me feel a lot better about the direction Microsoft's heading in terms of product
I mean the funny thing is is Apple's the
only one that ever really does it where they launch a product MacBook Air iPad
iPhone they launch a product that's actually ready for prime time everyone
else seems to be content to kind of go let's create like like a like a
v0.5 you know Samsung Galaxy S yeah the
first one sucked um and like this when it came out we knew that the the good
one was going to be Haswell we knew Haswell was coming in like eight months
or nine months or however many like it was months not years so we knew Haswell
was going to be more power efficient we knew that this product was a stop Gap
like let's get something out there even though Microsoft must have known that it
that it didn't make the most sense in the world so so it's like we but we let
everyone else get away with this whether it's I mean the original ASUS Zen book
was the terrible the touchpad was broken on it yeah and and we but but we let
them get away with it so let's give Microsoft sort of the benefit of the doubt here let's let them get away with
this one uh Surface 2 is interesting as well so it gets the 1080p screen upgrade
it's only 450 bucks which is really tablet priced um and it comes with a
Tegra 4 processor So based on my
experience with Tegra 4 so far Beast
yeah loving it oh I forgot to mention Surface Pro 2 supports 4K output yeah 4K
but but at 30 HZ or 24 HZ or whatever um
so so Surface 2 is interesting if you're willing to deal with the whole um you
know Surface RT or Windows RT thing to
me the the most offensive thing about
about about like Metro apps or modern
modern UI apps is that it just feels
like um not a lot of thought was put into some of them like for example the
the default photo viewer on Windows 8 no
is is is just one of the worst experiences you could possibly have so
here I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to open something sort of open with and
I could share my screen with you but but I'm not going to so I'm opening with the
photos up and I just want to show you guys like I still can't figure out like
how to get to all the other all the other pictures that are in this folder
like they're just they're just not here and like how do I control it like I can
okay so I can rotate delete crop and set as and like do a slideshow well can you
know like it's just not like like how do
I control it with the mouse can I you know there's like little tiny buttons
over here that like it just feels like okay this was meant to be used one way
and that is as like a picture frame basically as like a photo frame and like
okay oh yeah and when you get here it's like okay well like now now what now can
I so I have to swipe in over here I have to use their like their multitasking UI
here using this screen with a mouse and keyboard is is like is redonkulous it
just it's it's not I mean it comes down to my complaints about Windows 8 in
general um and I really don't feel like 8.1 has really addressed any of them it
fixed a few things but like yeah but I'm
I'm still not that happy that's why it's 0.1 didn't really go that far all right
so speaking of things that didn't go that far um Apple's efforts to make
their new phone have you know the most most advanced uh touch identification
technology ever ever ever so this is
from the chaos Computer Club CCC
dode uh the Biometrics hacking team has
broken their uh has broken their security in
two days and and like a large part of
that from from what I could glean from the article a large part of that was
like they probably didn't get it on the exact first
day and like they probably didn't work that hard like it yeah it was not hard
for them to do so um you know what I just realized the I never changed the
twitch thing when show now Tech and news
I should just like update that on the uh on the whole twitch thing um so I want
to play for you guys just a little bit we're not going to watch the whole thing again but we watched this video back
when I um oh no this is a different video this is this is them breaking okay
this is their video so I'm just going to turn the sound off it's only about a
minute long but but basically it's similar to The MythBusters well he
doesn't show like The Creation everything but what what he shows here is he's putting in his fingerprint with
his uh pointer finger and then what he does is he puts the printed fingerprint
onto his middle finger and then logs in with his middle finger that should not
work you have unique fingerprints on each one of your fingers right so
basically what um so so what they did in
the MythBusters episode was they just created um like fake fake finger skins
that work that's what they did here and then and then they even went as far as
to just use like a piece of plastic and then just lick it and put that on there
um and I think they just printed one out and then cut the piece of paper and Li
the piece of paper and put they did that one so so basically what what we what
we've determined here and what what the chaos Computer Club is saying is like
have they done anything here in terms of you know subdermal scanning and all the
stuff that they're talking about it looks like it's just a higher resolution
fingerprint scanner yeah which isn't a bad thing no but it's not as cool as
they tried to make it sound I mean it's one of those okay here I'm going to play
Devil's Advocate and I'm going to say it doesn't matter why because it's because
it's totally irrelevant unless you are okay it's irrelevant to you and it's
irrelevant to me it might not be irrelevant to the president of the
United States of America for example someone where yes that's why I actually
put in here um are we getting one it would be cool to see cuz I I would like
to actually have a video yeah I'll buy one okay I'm going buy one I want to try
and have it where I have to try and steal your fingerprint somehow and then
create one and log into your phone because I would like to see how easy it
is our new camera is here so uh Diesel's going to drop it off on with me on
Saturday so I can play around with a little bit so what I'm thinking is maybe I just either with your phone or with
your or with that camera you should try to blog the process and now that I'm
aware of it just like on the MythBusters thing I will I'll try not to leave Clean
fingerprints all over the place because if you're someone that's that worried
you should be actively trying not to leave Clean fingerprints off exactly so
let's find out if he can if he can actually legit break it and uh that'll
be a really fun experiment but um I mean
I I I I definitely hear where you're coming from the chaos Computer Club is
basically saying that fingerprint Biometrics and a few other different
types of Biometrics are just not as secure as they are put out to be so
people are assuming no one's going to be able to get this unless they have my
finger and that's not true that's what they're trying to say and and that is a
really good message because while I still don't think it matters because if
you're worried about your little brother breaking into your phone and texting
your friends you know the pictures of you that you hide somewhere else but he
figured out where they are because he's the creepiest little brother ever that's disgusting um so if you're worried about
something like that I think it's enough yeah whereas if you're worried about you
know critical company data you work for a multi-billion dollar company a pass
phas is still the way to go yeah so that
is like a nice long string of it doesn't have to be random characters it can be
you know um I really love my son and
wife you know heart that is a very
strong password it is so there you go
guys um our guest is going to be joining us in about 5 minutes so why don't we do
a quick Twitter Blitz guys hit us up with any questions whether it's about my
trip to Hawaii whether it's about um you know I I know there were a lot of
questions about Slick's uh co-host last week so if you have any clarifying
questions yes he is the firefighter from the io safe video so I will say that
much and no that was not a costume he is a legit firefighter you saw in the video
he was like in the fire yeah they don't let just anyone do that we were being
very closely supervised he was he was grabbing pallets that were on fire and
putting them on top of the nas Forest yeah so let's just let's go ahead and uh
hit the wow 52 interactions all right um
sup n12 or NFP you know what I'm behind the mic today so I'm going to get you to
answer these so uh I would go NF wait what would 140
mm be better for a cooler rig yeah 14
140 mm would be better um but then you're dealing with 120 mm fans in the
question but I would say nfff 12s yeah nfff 12s are just kind of the boss yeah
NF 12s are pretty sweet uh we ordered an XA 20 from Canon something that I can
use but that is not the one we're currently on we just aren't very good at
setting it up that's why it looks different we're on the fs700 right now
uh news on the cat um unfortunately no I
set up some food and water um and a little bed for him in my garage when I
went away and I left the door open but like with tires barricading it because
we were leaving our our back door open and a coyote came into our house and
like ate all the cat's food and all our cereal and stuff so um so anyway so I so
I left that for him and then I left my my iPhone set up with a time lapse um
like taking a picture every minute of the food and um uh rocket didn't come
back for it no one came back for it so I think he's I think he's gone although at
the same time like while it totally sucks for the people that are freaking
out um Rocket's kind of the biggest badass of a cat I've ever met in my life
so so he's probably doing okay for himself he might be out there he might
be okay he's uh super careful he's he's
super cautious um and uh hope he's okay
yeah I I really hope he's okay I hope someone stole him that's what I hope for
at this point yeah to be honest you know I hope someone has him and he's safe
that's that's all I really want now uh what do you think of GTA 5 having
microtransactions I I think it's necessary I mean you look at how much
was spent on the development and you can kind of go oh well they spent $ 250
million and they made back and they made it back in hours or or whatever you
might want to say about it but they have to be profitable enough for when they're
not making GTA 5 and when they're developing GTA 6 and all the lapse time
in between when they're not actually developing anything and they still pay employees and research and blah or when
they're working on bug fixes or improving the content that's within GTA
5 or whatever else they want to work on maybe who knows maybe they want to try
something that's not GTA they do they need I know that but what if they want
to try something that's not GTA that they that they don't have any previous
Revenue to draw upon companies have to make money y they have to make money you
don't have to buy in-game items I didn't know that GTA was going to have
microtransactions yeah personally to be completely I wouldn't be surprised if
they do I don't know what they would I don't know what they would have that would be microtransactions I'm not
surprised um okay used to be something
something something yeah uh okay well oh
GTA online does oh GTA online has microtransaction that makes a lot more
sense makes so much more sense that makes so much more sense uh GTA online
again well everything I said before GTA online yeah same thing and even more so
because when you actually have servers that you're running and maintaining and
you're continuing to develop new content which was a promise that they have for G
online then what else are you going to do I prefer microtransactions to monthly
subscriptions I'll say that do you prefer the like free-to-play
microtransaction style not necessarily
so you prefer a single upfront cost with microtransactions after that I think
that's my that's my Preferred Choice
yeah I just yeah yeah um your guess on
the price of R9 290x you know what that's that's a very fair question
because I don't know so I can talk about it um my guess would be pretty much what
you're saying um I would be surprised if they come in under $599 though because
based on the rumored performance which
you can go out and find because I'm not going to talk about that cuz I've seen
Performance Based on the rumored performance and how it'll line up I
think that um they could price it kind of at whatever they wanted to based on
the current landscape and I suspect someone like NVIDIA is probably kind of
sitting there waiting for them to show their hand and we're going to see we're
going to see some aggressive price movements over the next little bit and then things are going to settle in until
Maxwell launches in q1 yeah how do I
install a program when I do a clean install of Windows 8 I don't care what I
have to do I just want it done huh I'm not sure sorry sorry 98 not sure what
the question is but 98 98.com n n
it uh is it worth the money if I can get a690 for the same money I don't know man
um let's wait until we why don't we wait and see what the benchmarks look like
got a sound problem volume decreases randomly even if I disable the Windows
Comm communication thing I think there's a global setting for that that's not
just Windows communication you might want to go go check into that apparently
I look like Michael Bolton okay sorry to hear that um do you want to do you want
to fire up our call with Austin cuz he's going to be joining us hopefully in
about one minute here so we're really excited about that all right nice seeing
you guys live great job on the show thank you was watching Tex indicate
Logan's a good guy I have no problem telling people watch Tech Syndicate
because uh yeah he's a good guy I was sorry he wasn't able to be at the GPU 14
event from AMD I'm not sure if he got an invite or maybe they they missed him but
I mentioned him while I was there so hopefully it was just an oversight and
it doesn't happen again or he was busy or something um any details on the
mysterious 290 um I can say that it's mysterious I
can say that it's if there was an r9290
non X that it would probably be closely related to a
290x what do you think about the new Steam controller more on this later yeah
uh we're ready to go whenever ready to go all right why don't we do like a
couple more Twitter Blitz questions here
um GTA what game are you waiting for Star Citizen if you guys check out my
Vlogs from the AMD event I met okay I
got to I got to talk about this for like a minute or so and you know what we'll probably bring Austin on in the middle
of it cuz he was he was filming my fan girl moment yeah I know so okay guys I
met Chris Roberts Who is the uh the the
guy behind Star Citizen so formerly of wing commander and freelancer which is
one of my favorite games ever but unfortunately didn't get any kind of
sequel or anything but I have it from him him from Chris I get to call him
Chris now anyway I have it I have it from
Chris and he's like yeah I mean you could see this as a spiritual successor
to freelance I'm like that's all I need to hear man and that 250 bucks I dropped
on my constellation is totally worth it he pulled out like the biggest the
biggest surprise of for me of the conf
well okay no mantle was probably the biggest thing okay the second biggest
thing of the entire AMD event which was the hanger module was updated so you
could walk up into the turret so I got to hear him on stage talking about the
turret and you know what the craziest thing about it and let's go ahead and
let's bring Austin in now was
um the craziest thing about it is is he live I listen to him Austin are you
there yeah what's up man hey how you doing pretty good is my audio okay I had
a few technical issues when I was getting set up earlier we we turned you
up a bit just now so it should be good but um okay so where where was I going
with this the turret was amazing and uh oh yeah so after after the show I walked
up to him and if you haven't watched the Vlog already then you don't know this
already and I I was like about to introduce myself and he's just like oh
yeah watched your videos I'm
like that was that made my month at
least so that was that was super exciting so Austin welcome to the show U
Can you take maybe a couple minutes here and introduce yourself for those members
of our audience who don't already know who you are yeah definitely um so my
name is Austin um I do Tech videos kind of like uh Mr lonus here although
probably more of the boring kind of stuff like phones and tablets and that
kind of stuff but I also do PC gaming and obviously we were both at the uh the
AMD event actually just yesterday um so
yeah all right so guys you can find him at youtube.com Austin Evans or
youtube.com/ duncan33303 the Old Link
does still work you know what I think I I I don't know if this is in our list of
topics that I wanted to discuss with you but I want to kick this off cuz you and
I spent quite a bit of time talking talking about this on the trip um
speaking of being able to find you at Duncan 33303 or Austin Evans the amount
of integration that Google is moving
forward with between YouTube and Google Plus go oh oh you got throw this one at
me huh yeah because you had you had some really interesting thoughts on this so
let's hear it yeah so it actually it was kind of interesting because uh we were
uh yeah we were obviously out in Hawaii we actually on a on a hike so I was
trying to like find data cuz I just like check my tweets and like Way YouTube
comments are gone it's all Google+ now we both like what what what huh um so
basically the idea here if you guys haven't seen is that Google+ has always
kind of been at least for the last couple years has always been kind of on a collision course with YouTube so
Google's always trying to you know integrate them more I mean it started
with little things and now it's kind of getting on to bigger things like for
example how I was able to change my name is I was able to link it with my Google+
which now instead of seeing Duncan 33303 on my channel it's Austin Evans um now
they're just kind of taking that a next step further with the go+ comments so I
don't think it's a too controversial thing to say that uh the comments on
YouTube have never really been all that great yep I mean I think one of the
problems I brought up with you particularly was that um I really hated
the way that I would reply to a comment someone says something like oh lonus you
got this spec wrong and I'd say you know well no actually depending on whatever
this is this is how it is and it would get like you know 150 thumbs up so it
would it should in theory sit at the top but because of their Decay algorithm and
because of just YouTube being YouTube it would often get lost and it would just
fall away and so we'd end up with a ton
of the same comment about something that the uploader is already addressed so
maybe maybe walk through some of the changes that they're making to make the
comments not only friendlier but also better for the uploaders themselves well
I would but the thing is I actually haven't been able to test them yet um
I've just pretty much all I know so far as just what they've kind of announced
yet that it's not even coming out for another couple months right yeah not end
of year I think end of year yeah so I mean the big thing is that they're
trying to increase now actually I'm going I'm going to sound dumb here do
you actually have to use your real name because I don't actually know that part
you don't have to no you can still use an alias which is great okay so if you
can still use the Alias that's great but I think the big thing that they're kind of focusing on here is trying to get the
organization a little bit better like you said uh like I I had the same
problem I did a iPhone versus Galaxy speed test which by the way was a
terrible idea but uh a bunch of people were kind of like calling me out saying
hey there are different screen resolutions and I had to continuously
like reply every like hour so like no they're not it was runoff screen it
doesn't matter um so that's probably one of the biggest things but uh what do you
think about the Google+ integration because I know you've been having a lot of issues with Google+ trying to you
know get it all worked out and connected and all that kind of stuff I find
Google+ extremely difficult to use um and part of the the reason is that I
have multiple YouTube channels which is something that you don't really deal
with and I have of course not only all the Gmail accounts that go with all
those YouTube accounts because of that horrible onetoone relationship that they
forced us to maintain for all that time but also just because I have you know
personal Gmail this and Legacy and work Gmail that and just random Legacy Gmail
accounts so for me what I the the difficulty I had with this is I found it
kind of confusing I find the functionality just isn't as simple as
used a little bit old school like what's your IQ number ASL you know um that kind
of old school junk right so to me when I was searching for Austin Evans trying to
add you to Google Plus to a circle and every Austin Evans Under the Sun except
you comes up and then I have to like go and like go into Gmail and then like add
you by email there and invite you I'm just kind of sitting here going you got to I mean you got to be kidding me it's
not that elegant yet and that's frustrating and I haven't really invested the time into figuring it out
because I was just kind of playing that waiting game where it's like maybe I can
just put this off and I won't have to do it and uh maybe maybe Google will just
fix YouTube at some point but you can see that this has been in the works for
a long time uh based on things like the fact that they're giving us that they've
never fixed the inbox which is a terrible piece of garbage um they've
they've taken away functionality like being able to see our full list of
subscribers I mean that was years ago um but now we have that that new tab within
YouTube which is the actually I'm just going to load this up on my screen and
do a quick screen share here so uh so people who haven't seen it can see it
but um there we go we've got a we've got a couple of new Windows here so there's
Community where you can see top fans there's a bunch of videos that aren't
uploaded yet which doesn't really matter don't worry uh there's creation tools so
they're really finally starting to upgrade it as part of this whole
integration thing so I guess I better just suck it up or what some some
interesting stuff that I noticed too is um you were talking about how you didn't
like that the uploaders comments weren't featured uh they're going to be putting
prioritization on uploader comments and uploaders Friends comments so I believe
you can make a circle of people so if you made a circle for like lanis Media
Group my comments your comments edel's comments Brandon's comments would all be
prioritized and then you also have uh additional moderator tools so you can
filter out certain keywords and there will also which will be which will be
fantastic automated moderation will be great um and then the the other the
other thing is the ability to oh crap I was going somewhere with this but oh
yeah right and finally the ability to use a single go+ account to manage
multiple YouTube channels that's great for me because I do manage multiple
channels but I think like the the funny thing for me is I can't figure out
whether to use Google+ as myself personally or to have Linus Tech tips be
kind of the overarching one or have Linus Media Group the like I still got
to figure out and play around with it how I want to do it and it doesn't help
that I have like a few Google Plus accounts that I sort of halfheartedly
created and I don't know what any of them are linked to
so yeah I know I can tell you I've got
myself set up as a page I feel like pages on Google+ make sense for for us
um because you do have those extra features like you were saying you can actually create additional YouTube
accounts and then they can all be managed by a page I don't don't quote me
on this but I don't believe you can actually do that with a normal profile it has to be run through a page so there
are advantages to having a page as opposed to a profile and unlike on
Facebook there as far as I know aren't really any disadvantages like your
content still Services the same way right it's not like the algorithm is
kind of like going against you or anything so as far as I've know uh the
page definitely does make sense on Google plot but they could change that algorithm at any time which they've done
a billion times in the past and so yeah
um so let's move into our next big topic which is the AMD mantle API which they
showed off a new graphics card or seven or however many graphics cards they
showed off while we were there um they talked about you know game developer
relationships and and that kind of stuff um but let's talk mantle
API yes this is a huge deal yeah it was kind of a big surprise
for me because um obviously we had heard a little bit about it but when they
actually started talking about it I was like it it kind of really took me a back
I think it's a good step forward because as you know you can talk to pretty much
any game developer you know using DirectX 11 is not I mean directex is
just it's just so I it's bloated floated that's the
perfect word and so yeah it's it's just
it's just not the greatest way to get the maximum amount of Hardware sure I
mean if you want compatibility with you know a million graphics cards and
everything yeah yeah it's going to be great but do you want to get the maximum
performance out of all those graphics cards well it's just not really going to be the correct choice so mantle is
definitely a step in the right direction I think so here's the I mean here's the
challenge so I had this this is directly from Chris Roberts I was I wanted to
discuss mantle with him because uh even though most of the mantle uh
presentation was focused on Battlefield 4 um you know there's going to be other
games that are going to support it so I want I I just basically wanted to hit him up I was like
dude why why is it that that games run
so crap on a PC even if it's if it's a
PC optimized game and it was developed for PC first compared to what they can
do on the uh on the on the consoles
themselves and he was saying well it has to do with the number of calls because
when you have uh you know a 500
um H crap what was it uh true what you're are you talking
about the API calls no no no no okay you know what I'll be I'll be back in a
moment so you know what go I can talk
about yeah uh so one thing that I noticed right away was when they're
talking about this it reminded me of 3D fx's Glide
if that's kind of a throwback um which which was interesting and people were
actually happy to see it go away so I found it kind of surprised that
something like this was coming back but I expect that AMD is going to push this
really heavily with with games that they're helping sponsor so obviously
they're behind Star Citizen quite a bit so starti is probably going to be developing for mantle and I think it's
also going to be interesting when they pull things from console so if someone's developing for console and they want to
use these really low-level apis with mantle you'll be able to Port over still
using that lowl API which is really
interesting because then if you're able to utilize it that's that's awesome but
then again there's there's there's the great part and then there's there's a surprising part part of the surprising
part is it's going to be hard to get a lot of developers um mainly on the PC
side to utilize this without some type of sponsorship or backing because when
you're developing for this you're going to also have to develop for those high
level apis because not every card is going to be able to use mantle
yeah specifically non- NVIDIA cards are
and non gcn cards for that matter um although on the other side it does work
with all gcn cards so it's not just the new R seven and R9 series uh so that
includes like you know 7,000 Series so a
good chunk of graphics cards will be able to just you know they'll flip a switch and mantle will be able to work
so that that is good I'd say it's just an interesting position
that they've taken okay so here here we go so I remember I remember what I was
talking about with so he was saying that U depending on the complexity of an
object a a computer's GPU is so powerful
that it's not necessarily more difficult to render something that's relatively
simple or to render something that's 10 times as complicated that is not
actually what's important what's important is how many how many draw
calls you can actually um that you can
actually send to the GPU so there's a CPU bottleneck that exists because of
openg or DirectX or any of those higher level apis that doesn't exist on the
consoles so even though the consoles don't have the PC's capability of of
drawing of of uh of rendering these more complex objects so quickly because we
can we can hit them so many times more frequently well we can we can still draw
more and we can actually make better use of that hardware and that's aside from
being able to make better use of the memory itself and better uh and being
able to better optimize for the architecture of the GPU itself so this
is this is this is the big problem and that was what Chris talked about a lot
was how many individual calls you can send to the GPU to get an object
rendered because we're wasting that horsepower on the GPU by just rendering
these these smaller objects or bigger objects doesn't matter but being limited
to how many you can do how many requests you can hit it with at a time so that
was that was to him the huge thing and I haven't heard any quotes in terms of
performance improvements that we capable of seeing but with optimization I mean
we could be looking at well you look at how well something runs on a console
versus how well something runs on a PC and imagine that guys imagine if we
could actually leverage that additional power and the last the last thing I want
to touch on is I think the timing um is really good for this so AMD came out and
said during the conference that um this is by request this isn't something that
they're pushing on the game devs like uh fizx for example this is something that
the game devs have been coming to them and saying we want this we want to get
closer to the medal when we're programming our games espec especially
with the position that they're in making the hardware for both consoles that's
why game devs are asking for this so they can Port out from both consoles in
the same way which is just and that's why the timing is excellent because now
you've got two new consoles coming so the game the game devs are going to have
to be figuring out how to optimize for this gcn architecture anyway so we've
got that happening and because G cn's been out on PC for almost 2 years now
there's a fairly large install base there as well which helps to justify the
additional expense of well adding an additional API as an option not only
that but now okay maybe now we can move over to other platforms like Linux
sex H so so yeah so there are a couple
things that kind of jumped out at me about mantle one of them is is like you
were saying earlier one of the bigger advantages is that allows you know uh
games to take better advantage of the hardware and more specifically it's
going to make it easier for games to take advantage of more CPU cores which
amazingly enough AMD they kind of have been shipping a lot of CPU cores lately
yeah so that's actually I kind kind of could be a little interesting kind of to
come back because obviously the consoles are8 core the higher end FX stuff is8
core I'm sure we'll probably be seeing eight core apus within you know
eventually so that's definitely one thing um for mantle for me I think a big
thing is that really is going to kind of try to bridge the gap between consoles
and PCs um obviously we'll have to see
like you said performance and all that kind of stuff but it wouldn't surprise
me if mantle really isn't actually that difficult to kind of develop for because
if you're already doing it for consoles um perhaps if mantle is similar to the
way consoles work and that kind of seems to be the way things are it might not
actually be that difficult for a developer to say hey yeah we're going to
go ahead and support mantle um and you know just magically make everything
better and awesome and all that kind of stuff I mean the big concern I have is
we're splitting developer resources so I think U Glide is a great example of why
we moved away from that in the past and
um are we moving towards even more fragmentation I mean you know a couple
years from now do we see NVIDIA introduce their own thing now all of a
sudden do game developers have to support openg GL direct 3D mantle and
some kind of theoretical NVIDIA one and do we see um and and that's where it
gets messy but then they have the the the nice very so solid advantage of
having those consoles is the solution to just abandon direct 3D at that
point that's I that's like the nuclear
option I don't know man it's good way saying the nuclear that's the scary one
I mean um you know from from an end user's perspective if it's well
implemented Mantle's going to be as simple as like in in valve games where
you can just drop down direct 3D open G and choose your renderer um mantle
mantle is going to be that that simple but from a developer perspective I'll be
I'll be really interested to see how this works out and if we see weird
compatibility glitches and all of a sudden it becomes yet another bloody
thing for end users to diagnose so I'm using the wrong renderer for this game
as long as they don't make it the default it shouldn't be that big of a deal well I think they probably will as
far as uh because uh it'll be coming out on some games I would imagine that
they're not just going to ship it and say oh by the way there's this magical thing that makes your game run a million
times faster but we're not actually going to activate it so yeah we'll have
to see I mean you know what's funny is we're
going to have an EA moment on the show if uh if Battlefield 4 doesn't
automatically run on mantle once it's once it's
available so I would imagine it would be
that's kind of a big deal for him so they showed off a slide that uh that
actually did say specifically that mantle will allow battlefield for to
utilize eight threads which is extremely
exciting and also that it's only the beginning I mean uh FPS is the tip of
the iceberg when it comes to games that EA intends for devel other developers to
to run using frostbit so I mean by the
time it's not even a matter of AMD winning in terms of getting it
implemented game by game but if they can win a couple big engines then this will
be a thing and it's extremely exciting definitely yeah because not only does
that have amplifications for making performance better on AMD based p uh PCS
but also hey you know what you're going to be building for you know frostbite or
whatever particular engine okay so I'm going to chck a box oh it's going to run on consoles it's going to run on PC
obviously it's not quite that simple but it all kind of it snowballs and kind of
helps one thing helps the other thing helps the other thing just kind of improves performance and improves
compatibility across the board so this was mine and your first time at an AMD
event um what was what were your
thoughts what was your takeaway well first of all they had in
Hawaii which I think was a pretty awesome place I actually had never been
before so it was a it's a really really nice place that they had it um as far as
the like the information I thought it was really interesting they were very
you know technical and detailed and kind of explained a lot um I think we both
had uh a chance to actually go one-on-one with some uh people from AMD
and kind of answer some of our deep questions about you know the particulars
and all that kind of stuff once the actually the cards come out but uh I was
really impressed I thought that they had they first of all it was a well organized event um there was plenty for
us to see and do and kind of learn about all the new stuff I like that demo room
um I think they may have seen it uh in the Vlog did you show that off all like
the 4K monitors and 4K
ifinity which was just
like what is that like 12,000 does like
12K pixels that would yeah that that would be effectively 12 time HD which
just mind running off of two
290x and they I mean it was dir three
but you know the funny thing was looking at it you could they're playing dirt on
it you could see like the textures like dirt was clearly nowhere near made for
4K but because the screens and because the resolution was so like
astronomically high like like you can look at the text compared to like the
actual textures and there was a huge difference which obviously I don't think
a lot of developers are really you know designing for for 12K yeah they're not
too R but uh it was it was a really cool thing to see just that many pixels what
is actually that's what like 24 25
megapixels being rendered on the Fly Just redonkulous um just just redonkulous I
mean uh when we talk about you know a camera being able to process an image
like that you know we're talking like you know it processes the image and then
you know give it a sec yeah um oh yeah
so they had a few other demos let's talk about real sound a little bit because I
know okay guys for all of you tuned in don't touch that dial we're not going to
talk about it for half an hour okay so
real sound just as a quick briefer is basically a a programmable it's it's the
equivalent to what a programmable Shader was on the visual side so it's
programmable sound built into the GPU so that game devs can look at the resources
that they have available to them and know that they're going to be able to
program in more advanced audio effects now they had a demo that they were
running in that demo room which is what reminded me of real sound because otherwise it really wasn't on the top of
my mind cuz it's only going to be supported on a couple of the upcoming
gpus even um so real sound um is
basically a way of in turning sound into more of a physics thing as opposed to um
running around you know the office you know banging on things to create sound
effects and then just having a a library of sounds that it that it draws upon in
a in a given sort of scenario so like games where the swords Clash for example
it's going to sound like Clash one two or three or heavy Clash one or two kind
of thing so Austin you heard the thief demo tell me what you think of this new
way of implementing particularly reverberations in the sound yeah see
that's exactly it true audio is yeah typically in a game it just plays like a
you know like a quick like MP3 or whatever and it's very simple and there
are ways of making the sound kind of seem more realistic like with like
reverberations and whatnot when you're in you know maybe like a church or
whatever or eax used to eax used to be
the the thing that was pushing that forward but that just died in a fire when Vista got launched yeah so but one
of the main drawbacks is that that kind of takes more of CPU uh more of a hit on
the CPU and then a lot of times it's like ah we want to H the performance of
the game just so it sounds a little bit better but this seems a little be a little bit more of a smarter
implementation uh so with the thief demo that we both listen to um I could tell a
big difference um it was it was much more like when it was off it sounded
like uh like you said like everyone was just like talking to the microphone like
it very flat but when they turned it on you could kind of hear like the audio
kind of like echoing a little bit around the room hear the footsteps I mean I
don't think it was this massive Quantum Leap and just like blew my mind but
compared with it on and off I could tell a major difference and especially with a
game like Thief which is kind of like you know sneaking around and very sound
oriented yeah absolutely very sound oriented you know I think another good
game or a lot of of games that could really uh you know benefit from this
would be like first- person shooters because you know obviously you're trying
to listen for footsteps and whatnot and if you could kind of hear them in a
little bit more detail kind of maybe figure out where they are in 3D space
just a little bit better I mean obviously you're when you're dealing with headphones you're not you know you
don't have a 20 speaker setup to you know precisely pinpoint everything but I
I think it's a step in the right direction I don't know if it was worth
you know the 45 minutes they spent doing demos on it I mean it's it's cool but uh
yeah okay I mean I agree with you 100% better immersiveness and anything that
takes load off the CPU and enhances your
gameplay experience especially with mantle which
is going to allow the game to take better advantage of the power of your
GPU and take better advantage of your CPU by utilizing more cores well why
don't we just not waste any of that processing power on sound anymore then
why don't we just have it dealt with by the graphics card so the last advantage of real sound in addition to allowing
reverberation which is a lot of calculations like more like physics
sound the other Advantage is that in
terms of directionality it should be able to be much more accurate than
something that's relying on something other than the game engine itself to
give it directional cues so the fact that the processing is going on at a
much earlier stage in the pipeline is going to mean that cheesy things that
I've never liked I mean you guys must know this like USB surround sound
dongles and Surround headphones guys if you're longtime viewers I'm not real
enthusiastic about them um I mean Austin do you feel the same way or oh yeah
definitely so this sounds like a much better way to do that so we have a
little thing that we do called Twitter Blitz and I'd love for you to participate so I'm going to read out
Twitter questions that are actually intended for you and I'd love you to uh
to to hit the audience with the answers as fast as you possibly can that's the
whole objective all right all right let's do it will Blackberry be just a
company that we used to know or will they make a comeback they will probably
Fade Out I don't think they'll totally go out of business because they still do
have a pretty strong hold on the Enterprise and it sounds like they're
going to be bought but as far as you know people like us being able to buy
them yeah I think that's about done what do you think of the Note 3 uh I haven't
been able to really try it yet um well you were hands on you were hands on I
was there I saw you touch it somewhat although that did actually didn't happen
so shh uh uh I think the Note 3 is it
was hilariously big compared to the iPhone cuz I've been using the 5S the last couple days um yeah I mean I'm
excited um I missed the giant battery and the giant screen of the Note 2 so uh
all right looking forward to getting myself a note 3 someone's building a
system what CPU and graphics card for gaming what that's like um what what
kind of money are are they spending I don't know exactly that's the correct
answer uh here we go uh someone was
asking about unreleased stuff what do you think of flexible displays for phones and tablets
I think it'll be cool but not in the way a lot of people think you're not going
to have a phone and you just bend it what it's going to be more like is that
instead of having the display being Square um imagine that the side of the
phone it kind of like tapers down and the screen follows the taper so uh
there's actually a shot I think of a CES a couple years ago where Samsung showed
this off where it's a normal screen from the front but when you look at it from
the side the screen just keeps on going all the way and wraps over the edge I
think that's where the flexible display is going to kind more in handy we're not
just going to you know your your screen your your phone's just not going to be like a like a piece of plastic or
something unless you have a Galaxy
S4
hell okay you Inn never
mind H YouTube have also discontinued video responses how do you feel about
that I I'm going to jump in I'm going to say I don't care go ahead I'm right
there with you I mean didn't they say something about like how the video
responses were like clicked on like one in every 2 million videos some like
stupid yeah don't thoughts on YouTube adding a music library for their content
creators it's good because I'm tired of hearing the same iMovie uh music in
every single video on YouTube uh but I'm sure I'll get tired of this music as
well the right direction I'm glad
that uh does your camera still work uh this is from the Vlog when your camera
got soaked oh yeah oh yeah it's it's weather sealed it was all good um we
were just running out through the rain cuz it's Hawaii and it rains like every 10 minutes uh yeah it's good here's a
great question Scott Horton asks do you think mantle will help with emulating
the nextg consoles because that's been a thing where you had to have a PC that
was 10 times more powerful than a Playstation One in order to emulate PS1
Hardware do you think mantle will make a big difference to that oo that's tough I
mean o that's a good question theoretically okay so theoretically you
could kind of take a look back at like uh the original Xbox which was similar L
based to normal PC Hardware um just because it's based on the same Hardware
doesn't necessarily mean that it would be able to be emulated as far as I know
um I mean I don't think it would be a bad thing but if it's based on the same
hardware and the same API and
potentially runs on the same Graphics architecture it's not it's not really
emulation they're both x86 yeah so not
it's not yeah I doubt that you'll be able to just like load a game up the
software is still I strongly believe he going to be very much locked down the
operating system as far as like how you be able to you know you know get the
Xbox One operating system PS4 I I don't think it's a bad thing but I don't think
it's just going to be open season to just throw PS4 and Xbox One games on
your system anytime soon valid resp sponsor uh favorite retro and non- retro
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one and this is from some jackass that
uh I I hate that guy um he says you're
not going to tell anyone what happened in Hawaii right we made a pack and this
is from Paul Hardware on Twitter yeah no uh no comment on that uh
there was an NDA sign that evening that uh not supposed to talk about this so no
it's didn't happen Paul uh I'm sorry but
please don't talk about this anymore it was yeah just know yeah it it was it was
super homo so um basically yeah like
full homo okay so um to talk about it
did you sign The Pact or did you just like ghost I signed the pack man I
signed that P we all signed the pack and the fact that Paul's even talking about
it like he's opening himself up to like some serious legal ramifications because
part of the pack was to not talk you don't talk about fight CL two rules
first two rules two rules inherently
teach you to break rules I don't care
well no you you don't know you don't know I'm just saying you don't know how
homo it was let me put it this way it's almost
as homo as when we spend time together wow that's pretty intense yeah it's
intense homo holy cow so uh so anyway enough talking about Homo Austin if you
want to please please plug your stuff because if a few people don't okay that
that was did I violate the
pact I think it did okay dude talk up
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Austin all right cool and guys just another reminder is Austin and I are
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giving away two phones all right thank you Austin you've been a fantastic guest
there's still a week left on that too so PL time to get in on it lots of times so
thank you very much and uh we'd love to have you on the show again and it was a
it was a real pleasure meeting you in person for the first time
man right man hey thanks for having me and I will catch you later all right
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week or whatever we decide on updates for certain little news items that we
keep very short so for instance we could have covered all the individual steam
updates which would have actually been really nice and much more timely and
giving you guys like you know a reason to get your news from us as opposed to a
reason to just hear us sort of wax philosophical about what it all means
speaking of waxing philosophical about what it all means let's get into the
steam announcement so number one that segue right that that you've got got
some pretty epic Segways thank you uh Steam OS boom big head explosion so go
this one was kind of insane like I I actually was not expecting this one at
all uh the other two I guessed both of them but this one was kind of out of
left field at least okay we kind of saw Steam OS coming because we were
expecting steam box to have some kind of steamy customized OS I just expected it
to be a like custom version of Ubuntu not its own thing and I expected it to
be somewhat closed I expected steam box to be a steam box and you didn't build
your own steam box maybe they partnered with others to build steam boxes but
like I thought it was going to be pretty pretty hardcore lock down but that got
completely obliterated oh no you can download the raw source code for this if
you want and change it in any way you want they do not care which is amazing
they they even said there uh actually I'm not going to jump to that quite yet
but like there's a ton of cool stuff so it's on Linux and I know a ton of you in
the audience that haven't read up on this right now are going oh so I can't
play like any of my games cuz there's only that's totally wrong because if you
have your desktop PC which I'm assuming most of you already have you can stream
Shield style your Windows games over to
your steam box that is running on the TV which is like amazing so we could I mean
okay why do people like me say look I'm
not interested in Linux because too
complicated and it can't play the games that you want it's not that complicated I have used comp for some people okay
but the fact that it doesn't you can't game on it is just the stupidest thing
ever from from my perspective is like look I want the machine that is the
allrounder that does everything reasonably well and that's Windows right
now um the fact that you can stream games I mean look at look at it this way
NVIDIA has invested heavily in this game streaming technology which is
interesting from a cloud gaming perspective but we're we're years and
years away from that being feasible but from a local streaming perspective is
actually much more relevant to me and NVIDIA has shown already that they can
do this over Wireless there is no reason
I would want to run my steam box wirelessly if I wire up my house with
like 10 gabit which is going to come eventually to Consumer grade prices y
all of a sudden holy crap my Windows box
lives in a closet my Windows Home Server is now my Windows Home Server and every
other machine in the house could be running Linux and I could game to my heart's content I was even going to say
this would be really interesting because if you had say you're a dad and you
still want to have your your Beast computer because you're going to do
other stuff like video editing or whatever but then you've got your kids that are just going to game you could
have like a central Beast computer instead of building Beast computers for
each one of your kids and then just give them steam boxes which is just amazing I
mean this is remember when NVIDIA first announced grid this is exactly what I
was talking about person Cloud compute that's awesome as opposed
to personal cloud storage which is fascinating and all that and WD has a
new product coming that we're going to check out that apparently makes it much simpler but personal cloud compute is
just B so excited about this and I mean
you know what kudos to valve for taking us in this direction this is such a big
deal because when they talked about supporting Linux in the longer term I
went yeah that's fascinating we can run portal on Linux or whatever and this big
performance hit but now all of a sudden whoa boom mantle hits us this week
porting to different os's we're not going to rely necessarily on Direct 3D
or openg GL anymore boom and then the
fact that now we're going to be able to run our games using streaming from a
separate computer on Linux so Beast like
there's a couple other announcements even aside all of that insane awesomeness that you grab right away um
stuff like uh my my little local co-op
back door thing not going to work okay great right the game sharing but you
could so even though you couldn't you couldn't like play against each other
what you could do is you could have a steam box in the living room and you
could share your library with a separate account cuz steam still won't support
multiple logins of the same person in different locations and that's what a
great solution that is right yeah so so I will have two accounts now I will have
my account that I don't really buy anything on which is my steambox account
and I'll have my main desktop account and I'll just share everything with that
account and that's totally fine I just can't play games concurrently so you I
can take turns so a buddy over and he wanted to play on my steam box computer
we couldn't play the same game but as long as we take turns playing different
games it's totally fine play on the same time I oh man that's great and I
wouldn't I'd be interested to see if they had the capability to add multiple licenses of a game to a single Steam
account that would be really interesting that's actually not a bad idea if anyone
from valve is watching I'd actually like to see that that ties in really well
with their family options so they have a family options thing where you can hide
certain games from other people based on the SRB ratings or preference so Hotline
Miami which is a crazy good game but I
would never let anyone under the recommended age play because it's nuts
like this is this is like GTA style where you don't want little kids playing
this game awesome game dad might own it
doesn't want to share it with his kid he can now hide it that's brilliant but
yeah that could tie in with the multiple licenses thing yeah that would be really
cool yeah um okay so steam announcement number two I guess we kind of talked
about it a fair bit so Steam Machines um it's not it's kind of tied
into the first one in a big way to to to be kind of blunt it's not super
interesting cuz we all knew this was coming yeah we all knew this was going
to be one of these OMG valve's going to have a console okay yes got it Val going
to have a console okay fine for interesting things to bring up they're
going to be shipping 300 prototypes of it this year so sometimes within 2020
maybe um but they'll be shipping 300 prototypes to people that have completed
the quest the quest is basically stuff that you've probably already done plus
play a big picture game with with a controller yeah um there's going to be
30 of these prototypes that are given to people that are big contributors to the
community probably people that have made things that go up on the market but then
um 270 of them will be completely randomly selected out of people that
have completed that Quest so if you check out um store. ste.com
livingroom machines you can see everything you have to complete for that
quest which is interesting um and the non prototype versions are supposed to
be available sometime in 2014 so I'm expecting somewhere around 2030 um
that's I'm wondering how valve time is going to play into all of this actually
because they're they're putting out fairly solid release dates I mean to
me Steam Machines basically sounds like Windows machines like it it's basically
just another way of saying it's a computer that will have Hardware in it
that's going to run the Steam OS and and I I think that particularly when you
look like a you look at a community like steam um we're going to see a lot of DIY
a lot of DIY steam machines as opposed to like it's going to I think it's going
to be a lot like the Hackintosh Community where no people don't buy a
Hackintosh what they do is they they head over to Tony Mac x86 or whatever
that site is that's awesome by the way if you ever want to build a Hackintosh just go there it's like done for you uh
buy the hardware build it themselves and it's a very rewarding experience and
you're going to get better performance for your dollar and all those great things that go along with that that is
where things are going to get they actually said so there's going to be a
valve version and the valve version is going to be highly customizable and you
can build your own and that will obviously be highly customizable but then the ones built by other people will
be focused around different metrics so size price um thermal output uh sound
stuff like that and with a free OS we're going to have a lot of flexibility and
for particularly for DIY guys we're going to see a bigger price disparity
between DIY and offthe shelf because with Windows the big manufacturers like
Acer or Lenovo are getting massive discounts on the software whereas when
you build one yourself you're paying full retail so even though you're able
to build your PC for slightly cheaper you paid that inflated margin to
Microsoft for a standalone OS whereas now when both osses are free now that
decreases our price even more by by a much larger margin so I'm really excited
about DIY good point steam machines or
whatever they want to call them I'm so excited because I've wanted to build a small form factor computer for a while
but never had that big of a reason steam
announcement three three um the steam controller so I'm
going to go ahead and I'm going fire this up for you guys because you're going to need to see it to believe it
for this one yeah a new way to play your entire steam library from the sofa so
there's a dog and a cat they cardboard cutouts boom there it
is I legitimately thought this was the back um especially actually because of
how where your hand goes kind of works
and how it looks but um yeah I'm going to keep letting that
sink
in so my first conclusion and I find it funny because if you scroll up to where
it shows the home theater uh oh okay here sorry I'm not on my screen anymore
yeah go ahead go ahead they have Civ five on screen which I thought was
hilarious because before I noticed that I was like the only game I really thing
it's like you can use this controller to play SI 5 then they had S 5 on the
screen I was like oh someone thought of that okay so let me let let's why don't
we start with some of the specs because that's really important it's got 16
total buttons so the trackpads themselves are buttons the touchcreen in
the middle has four buttons at the corners uh there's a few look more like
navigational buttons under the screen itself actually here I'm going to I'm
going to fire that up again for you guys so you can see what I'm talking about
and um the the real the real killer app
here is these touch pads so there there's the touchcreen here and then the
touch pads here and here that have what
valve is calling the most um the most
advanced haptic feedback that we've yet seen in a consumer device so to be clear
haptic feedback if you ever used like a Samsung Galaxy Tab uh 10.1 the original
one where it just kind of like felt like a big piece of poo every time you
touched it and it kind of went like when you touched it and it it
felt like it falling apart uh valves going for not that they're going for
something that actually will give you
tactile feedback about not just where your fingers are on the pad and you know
the curvature will help with that as well but also things like um
acceleration uh boundaries threshold speed textures action confirmations or
any other events they're saying these are so Advanced that they're basically
speakers and as a little trick you could actually have them play music or make
sound effects if you really wanted to um
now what I noticed immediately because this was the one that actually out of
all the steam announcements this was the one where I not only read the the valve
page but you read the and another article but I went and found like a
dozen articles because I was like what are people saying about this I read
hundreds of user comments I actually spent a lot of time this morning looking
at this and here's what I found user comments people are either saying it's
bull it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen or they're saying hold on give
this a chance it's valve they they haven't done wrong by us too many times
in the past and then there's like the one guy in a 100 who's stoked on it and
then professional writers basically all opted to say nothing yeah I couldn't
find anyone who gave an opinion on it and I didn't read every article but they
were all just like here's Val's press
release and they just said nothing which to me is is a big indicator that they're
real skeptical about this but they don't want to be the guy that said it was
balls and then it turns out to be amazing I I'm going to actually bounce
back I made the comment about Civ 5 earlier but after typing that in and I
have I have it here being like you're only really going to be able to play to
5 but after typing that in depending on how good the touchpads are um actually
was playing GTA 5 last night and I
noticed the only way I can aim at people is by pulling the left trigger
repeatedly which will make him automatically point people because
without that I'm like I'm wondering can I actually be
more accurate with a touchpad that's super super good versus I mean for me a
big problem with joysticks is that every every game under the sun seems to have
the calibration a little bit differently and and and the and the the response of
them compared to something like force feedback actually isn't that great no so
if this between the curvature and the
haptic feedback like if it gets more intense towards the outer edges for a
racing game if we're talking almost like fake force feedback and looking at the
style of these touchpads actually one thing I was thinking about is if one of
them was a wheel in a racing game you could spin it as if it was a wheel so
there's there's actually I don't see that being practical but you probably
you maybe could and and like it's it's it's just and how modable they are
they're incredibly modable they're coming out and saying they want it to be hackable oh yeah right up front yeah so
so with it being valve with it being this modable because the mod Community
is going to go crazy and make this thing nuts it maybe they can pull it off does
it replace a keyboard and mouse no of course not but they don't say it but you
can plug that into your steam box and use a couch Master anyway does it
replace a keyboard no of course not but you could still have something like a
little wireless keyboard where is ours I think it's like lost um you could have a
little wireless keyboard with a little track ball on it anyway to me I see this
not even necessarily as a replacement for something like like an Xbox 360
controller which is like the finest controller ever made other than the d-pad is kind of a pile of poo um it's
not a replacement it's more like here's another way and and it will open the
doors one thing I compatibility tool yeah I don't think they wanted to make
another like dual Jo uh dual thumb stick
with the dead and four buttons and two thingies like they didn't want to
recreate something that everyone has made Under the Sun but with that said
before I'd seen any pictures and before I'd read any articles the first word out
of my mouth was Ed when I heard about it and I kind of went well are they being
different for the sake of being different and then I kind of let myself sort of calm down and honestly I haven't
even read any of the extra articles on it this is all just stuff I noticed while looking through theirs okay um but
it's it's it's going to enable like I would never play Civ 5 with the default
controller but I would play Civ 5 with this I wouldn't want to play a lot of
simulation it's kind of like when Warcraft 2 came out on Playstation it's
like ridiculous whereas this might bridge the gap Y and then a lot of
simulation games like especially freaking Surgeon Simulator like that
makes so much more sense right than with like it's it's it's interesting so I
think it's going to open a lot of doors to other things and then stuff like Shooters with the right modding
Community behind it maybe you can be way more accurate because I have a serious
problem with controllers right now so
maybe it will help and maybe it'll help bridge the gap between PC Gamers into
the living room a little bit more because the second I touch a controller I'm like what is this I don't know what
I'm doing all right someone someone someone's hitting me pretty hard in the
twitch chat there lonus what is what does he say something like stop avoiding
the question do you think it will be good and I'm going to say
um based on the one person I found on
Twitter who has tried an early version
of it so Lord Chris Remo on Twitter who
says I tried it the button configuration was different at the time but the cursor
pads worked amazingly well I don't know who this guy is never never talk to him
no idea why he has you know a 13,000 followers on Twitter or whatever else um
but he says yes the haptic feedback makes it feel like you're actually
operating a real physically mechanical
device not just a touchcreen wow if I
found someone who tried an early sample and is saying that about it if I
inherently trust valve which I kind of do yeah um I I you know what here I'll
go ahead and say I I'll say there's going to be a learning curve because I think we can all agree on that but it's
going to be usable it it's it's definit it's like I don't even think you can
debate if it'll be usable or not I would have questioned it at the beginning for
Civ 5 and other simulation games it'll obviously be better than in my opinion
than a a a controller with thumb sticks but I I think it'll be depending on how
good those touchpads are and if you take his word for all the Merit it could be
taken for umide it could be great but I
just it's a touch pad touchpad scare me I'm I'm a big advocate of overuse of
touchpads are ridiculous because when you go to the store and you have to use
the debit machine and you only have to select what account you want to use with
the freaking touch pad and it's like why do I have to why do I have to do this
it's like unnecessary touch sucks but if
they've done it well then great so I want to move on to this is actually one
of our one we're running out of time here but I feel like this is probably
going to be our last big topic this week bit torrent um has a legit leg reason
for existing that goes beyond like Linux
dros which is obviously the joke that pirates make is why do you have you torn
on your computer because I download Linux distros
um the art is the cash this is this is an article on Venture beat the artist
the cash register bit torrant releases bundles in Alpha so you guys should
definitely check out the full article but I'm just going to go back to my notes here really quick um so what
bundles will do is they will bundle
content and a payment system now we're not talking payment system like um Cash
Money necessarily we're talking about some kind of content it could be we're
talking some kind of content whether it's music or movies or like I mean
honestly I saw this and I've been thinking about doing like um a vlog
series or like beh a Behind the-scenes series hiring like a dedicated guy to
just do that around here for a while but I don't necessarily want that everywhere
and I don't want and I've promised my viewers that we are not going to move to
a pay model so I've done those things
make it like a like a so oh okay hold on so bundles could contain some kind of
content that you pay for but not necessarily with cash so here are some
suggestions maybe you pay for it with a like a tweet an email address or
newsletter sign up a holy crap that's amazing maybe you pay
for it by seeding although I don't know how I don't know how that could be
enforced but but all of a a sudden there's a flexibility to the payment
that comes along with content it's been being said for years that the problem is
not distribtion yes go okay you talk about it the problem is the dist steam
has said this a lot um because people have been seeing uh piracy rates go down
as their games go on Steam instead of being their own launcher like if you
have to download the executable install itself your piracy rates are going to be
higher than if it's on Steam because people see it on Steam and they're like
oh that's easy it's going to work all the time I don't have to deal with all
these problems but then it's also not DRM down my throat and absolutely
ridiculous the whole time so I'll just buy it on there's still DRM on Steam but
it's much easier to deal with um so I'll just get it on Steam so Gabe new has
been saying distribution is a problem forever everyone knows that the main
reason things are pirated is because they're so freaking hard to get so like
annoying it's it's well a large part of the reason a reason that things are PIR
large part of the reason a reason let's say a reason I'm say we can okay well I
will say a reason cuz I don't necessarily agree with well as music has
become easier to get piracy rates have massively gone down that's true so it's
a large but piracy still exists so let's say a reason I'm still saying large
until until piracy is gone we can't empirically determine I'm not saying the
reason I'm saying a large part of how do we know we can't the percentage is gone
down by so much okay until we know how much piracy there actually is exactly we
won't know you can pretty can guess but you won't know for sure you can get
pretty freaking close we disagree but anyway um yeah it'll help yes okay uh
artists are going to love this because instead of their music like if they kind
of go okay people are going to download things off off of Torrance anyway and if
they happen to take that philosophy and go okay well then what I'll do is I'll
include um in order to I I'll I'll just I'll just SE it out there myself and as
long as you follow me on Twitter then I'm down then down go ahead have have
have the song then especially musicians lately are releasing their albums for
free anyways because they find no point because not enough people are buying
them especially when they're smaller musicians so if you if you release a new
version of it every once in a while that requires people to tweet about your
upcoming concert or to uh link on your
Facebook to their merchandise store holy
crap that helps them more that's the future I mean that's amazing so Madonna
Lincoln Park Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart already using it um Tim
Ferris says it drove an additional 880,000 Amazon impressions for his book
in his experience there is no faster method for getting multimedia content to
the fans this is is just totally gamechanging and I think goes a long way
towards legitimizing bit torrent yeah that's because For the Longest Time bit
torr's been like we're not actually bad really we're not just for pirating but
we can't tell you what else we're for we're we're we're a tool just people are
there's like four Dudes that released their albums on it like you could
probably also find them on like YouTube or what billion other places um so this
is this is amazing it's really good for them I think this week rather than
trying to go really in depth into some of the other content that we have I
think we call that it for our major topics I want to I want to Blitz through
a couple here I mean Blackberry has a potential Suitor um I think what was it
9 billion or something like that so $9 per share I think it's 47 billion sorry
$9 per share and um I was talking to Sam
Reynolds from VR Zone while I was at the AMD event and he was saying uh one of
the reasons he thinks it could potentially happen in time is that it is
a Canadian uh interest that's looking at
them and that actually could save months
of investigation and Analysis and all that like if they want the if they want
foreign investors to come in and and own the company which is traditionally a
Canadian company um I mean that and that
I think would make a lot of people feel feel a lot better about it as well um so
that was um that was one of the big things this week obviously uh this is
pretty funny the fake Apple ad says iOS 7 will make your iPhone waterproof and
people fell for it so the update claimed that iOS 7 uh will in an emergency shut
off your phone's power supply and corresponding components to prevent any
damage to your iPhone's delicate circuitry um so apparently people
expressed their outrage on Twitter one angry Tweeter said okay whoever said iOS
7 is waterproof go f yourself um so
that's that's pretty hilarious and I quite frankly I hope no one watching did
that because dude or dad or whoever you
are yeah yeah had it coming for you um next up is auss Rog bench I mean
honestly we don't have enough benchmarking tools we really don't
particularly for certain aspects of the system like storage there's a few but
they're highly synthetic and or or they're expensive So speaking of which
did we get that figured out with future Mark did you hear back from them yeah I have yeah are we are we doing it yeah
we're good okay we are we are going to be testing using the upcoming uh the
upcoming future Mark what is it called future Mark 8 uh so we're going to be
using that for our storage testing I'm extremely excited about their new suite
it looks much more comprehensive than their previous ones but right now it
wasn't available unless you get the Uber license so we've worked out a deal with
them to get the Uber license so we're going to be bringing you some of that over the next little bit here uh but
anyway this is unrelated to Future mark this is the Rog real bench and ASUS has
an FAQ that's on rog. ASUS.com um if you
just search for Rog realbench free app download you'll be able to bring that up
or you can check out the uh the stream doc which I'll post in the lonus
rambling section of the Linus Tech tips Forum but they've got an FAQ here that I
think really covered all my questions the first or the the second question is
it's Rog realbench so there must be ASUS favoritism right and they're like no
open source apps no ASUS BIOS or uh bias
at all I like that it's open source love it love it I mean this this is one of
the things that that that I really feel like companies can do to differentiate
their products that has nothing to do with the product things like even AI
charge have you ever used AI charge from isus yes works on any computer and
allows any USB port to charge a tablet it's like oh wow thank you ASUS now I
now I think of you and I install your app on my computer regardless of what
kind of computer it is that is that is marketing that is like awesome marketing
the first that will come to mind when you go to buy something is going to be them so if every if every overclocker
starts using Rog real bench like that gets that branding out there I mean
another example our sponsor Razer Razer comms make it for everyone don't require
people to buy a bright green headset you know not everyone wants a bright green
headset we get that we we saw your we saw your comments on Twitter we saw your
comments in the twitch chat does Razer have a not bright green headset yeah
they do but you know this one happens to be bright green um but but getting
getting that branding out there is is huge to me and there's only a few benchmarks right now but they're
committed to continuing and and they're taking user sub submissions for
benchmarks so I know I'm going to submit a few that I already think are good
ideas that they could add and if you guys have some open-source benchmarks
that you guys would think would be a good idea submit it and they'll and
they're keeping it real and up to date it's x64 only cuz they're like yeah well
we just think that you need to get with the times if you're running x86 and I'm
more than okay with love it I mean that's like AMD's 290x no an L output
VGA is gone and I'm not talking the connector is gone the pins are gone it's
gone I'm like good because that needs to
that needs to go away it's done it's done by VGA so I'm really excited about
that we'll definitely bring you guys a video in the next little bit once we've
uh had a chance to try it out Twitch TV no longer automatically archives
broadcasts um that's a bad way I actually yeah yeah that happened last
week to us I actually spent some time talking to their coo at PA and I have a
little bit of insight as to why they're doing that so YouTube um has you know X
number of hours of video uploaded every minute or whatever it works out too but
they transcode it which even though it's processing intensive dramatically
reduces the storage requirements on their side twitch just goes here we go
full Balls to the walls 1080p game stream that ran for 14 hours or how
right their storage needs were just
becoming ridiculous last week I went for 12 hours their storage needs were
getting ridiculous as they've continued to explode and you
I mean they got to invest in network infrastructure they got to invest in
processing they got to invest in security and blah blah blah it's like
look but we bought enough hard drives already everyone just calm down um so I
I totally understand why they're doing that I he didn't tell me at the time
that they were planning to implement this but what he what he did say is our
storage needs are getting ridiculous we have to do something and you can still
enable them they're just not enabled by default which I think I think is a really good compromise yeah um NVIDIA
has come out and said um you know we're we're we really want to support Linx uh
they they've sent out some Tweets we're all about gaming we feel gaming is so
important uh and lonus torold has actually responded so NVIDIA kind of
said look 1,000 watt PC will not lose to a 200 watt Xbox um even though most PCS
aren't running at 1,000 watts and they uh they say they want to support Linux
in the wake of steam and hopefully they'll be able to leverage mantle or
some kind of man like technology it's been it's it's apparently been confirmed
that mantle is open I I wasn't so that's
my comments uh in the document earlier
and when I was talking I I got kind of corrected by YouTube but I had no idea
it was open I thought it was just AMD I thought it was AMD didn't say it was
open during the presentation yeah that's I watched the presentation was like um
apparently been confirmed now so I I really doubt really cool I doubt NVIDIA
would be willing to do let's see let's see if NVIDIA can a lot of AMD stuff's
open open I know but it's not like NVIDIA really focuses on open CL I I
know I'm just saying like I'm not surprised that it is that way I just I
was watching the presentation I didn't say it so lonus torval has responded to
this commitment saying um you know
famously lonus tals gave the bird to
NVIDIA and uh said NVIDIA and I don't
have live like bleeping out of stuff but you know F you Fu NVIDIA blah blah blah
you don't support us properly NVIDIA's come out and said look we're going to do
an open driver well they they they've been it's been publicly known that
NVIDIA has been the hardest Hardware manufacturer for Linux to work with at
all so he's basically said look I'm not willing to issue an apology for that yet
but let's wait and see let's give him a chance and my battery just died so um
builds of the week I guess let's uh let's move on or do we have any other
topics that are I I feel like that's not that important that's more I just
thought it would be funny I should have put it in after there's there's an upcoming uh movie you want to cover that
while I load up the builds of theek it's not really big deal I was going to bring it up an Afterparty I just put in the
wrong section but there's an upcoming Hollywood film that is based on the
great Quebec maple syrup Heist so it's starring Jason Seagal or seagull I'm not
actually seagull yeah Jason seagull um
yeah and it's based on the $18 million syrup Heist which is pretty Beast um I
just wish there was 14 members of the team apparently there was uh 24 so if
there's 14 it would it would it would be like oceans 14 m Ser
Edition but oh well that's unfortunate I
was I was really hoping when I was reading through I I remembered this cuz it's based on a real event I was of the
week uh it's in the WAN folder Wan folder okay I'll find it um I was I was
really hoping because I I like reread the old news article when they were
talking about this massive Heist of maple syrup and I was really hoping it
was a team of 14 people but it was 24 so it's close enough so I'm I'm calling
this movie unofficially oceans 24 uh
because I love the oceans movies and I love heist movies cuz I just think they're so cool me too they're just
they're yeah they're awesome so we're going to hopefully get to the slide soon
here yeah no I'm I'm I'm ready to rock I think scene six is not the one okay so
let's go ahead and remove that let's add a screen region boom add the whole
screen and boom build logs of the week and well okay let's make it big a little
better than that all right here we go from the beginning liquid cooled fractal
by DG so this is just yeah fairly
self-explanatory it's just freaking beautiful I love that it's it looks so
sharp it looks so clean I maintain the D5 is the only Pump That Matters and
it's ugly as all sin when you don't custom mod it but this looks great y
I've actually seen that quite a bit lately y it's become very popular when
bit Phenix or bits power did the first D5 mod kit I refused to stock it when I
was when I was carrying them at NCIX cuz I was like this is stupid no one's going
to pay that much to mod their pumps but what I didn't think about at the time
was well hold on a second people are going to have owned D5 pumps for two
years they're going to have no reason to upgrade it they're going to be redoing their Loop and they they're spending
less than the amount of buying a new pump on just making their old pump look great and d5s are so reliable I've been
running mine for years and with with form factors of computers going down
people want smaller cases to go along with it and you can't really hide them that easily yeah so you might as well
make it look awesome yeah exactly speaking of looking awesome Dam angled
fittings that white tube very very gorgeous so that's the Define
R4 for those of you who don't already know just a great looking setup he's got
right there all right ultimate cooling machine from Death
boy hey this is the first tj7 build
we've featured on the L show I think so we had the yellow one was that tj07 I
think it was I might be wrong maybe that was tj1 I think it was tj1 or tj1 okay
maybe so uh do you mind if I take point on this one go for it are those hard
pipes oh my goodness that's is an amazing build
beautiful be wait sorry I'm just going to interject one little thing um just
like always be sure to check this out on the Forum but this guy especially cuz he
like stripped the whole case himself so he has progress shots of like going down
to the metal and it just it looks awesome and he's got really nice camera
so all of his shots look great this is amazing so there's there's a couple things here so first of all that front
panel that stealth front panel looks fantastic I personally would have left
this so that I can have front USB or or
front card reader or something I I I personally did opt to have that still
accessible on mine I think that's important um this is something I've seen
done before and I actually wanted to do on mine so this dramatically improves
the uh the the restrictiveness of the stock grills down here which they're
very very restrictive and if you do it right you can get it curved just right
and it actually looks very very very very good um the fact that the case is
painted means that he was able to paint the grill so that it matches the case
which is problem I've seen with some people who have done this mod where it
doesn't match the case anymore these hard pipes are outstanding so that's a
liquid cooled Rampage 4 uh with what
what are these these look like they must be oh crap oh they're GTX 680s you can
tell from the Stacked PCI the stream's so long that by the time we get to this
part I forget the components yeah yeah it's fine uh so oh man Dem hard pipes
xspc is sort of a funny Choice cuz it's more value oriented but I'm guessing
they were sponsor for the build or something like that and it looks really SHP and it looks it goes along with he
has a very silver like I don't have a shot of his monitors that night shot
yeah I had to include that but he has a very silver based things so it actually
kind of works I mean this ties into the uh the discussion you and I were having
oh oh wow there's another one the discussion you and I were having about how do you shop for RAM these days and
like by looks yeah Dominator platinums hands down so uh yeah incredibly good um
but the next one once you jump along thisd this was added because of like
like it's a nice build okay what's with that fan that's awesome you're going to
be wondering about a few things the main thing that you should be wondering about is actually that which you got to that
that are you confused yet this this box
that goes up here oh well hold on a second this box goes all the way up here
oh is that all the C wait what what is this okay now now that you've seen it
and you see where it's shooting out and do you see like there's a cut there and a cut there oh cool is that just
cardboard something just click forward fine there is his design so he has built
a vent for the basement that can shoot up and then directly flow air over his
cards I had to include this build but I also had to include the other builds oh
cool so this is actually it's funny because this is like uh this is like a
ghetto a ghetto rig in some ways because this is a very archaic way of doing GPU
water cooling you can see he's got individual RAM syns on there for the RAM
components he's got like air cooling sitting over it back in the day we used
to use like antech spot cools for this um and then he's got individual GPU
blocks I still have two MCW 60s that you can easily make cting mounting hardware
for anything you want aren't they over there yeah yeah they're in the pile
there and at some point I kind of want to do like a dual MCW 60 and my original
apog liquid cool build just for laws I'd
want to redo the mounting hardware and then get it like uh coated I get it
powder coated by Mountain mods or something that be cool although I'm kind of mad them about my case but um yeah
that's it but I I just I had to include that guy's build cuz that vent is just
that's so cool what a cool what a cool build what a cool idea I I like that I
mean it's one thing when we let the manufacturers choose for us how to
direct airf flow or whatever else but it's a whole other one when we uh when
we just kind of take matters into our own hands and and customize things like
that nope this is how it's going to work one quick more thing I don't I think he
might be looking up for something but before we end here um I also want to do
another shout out for the boink and folding teams we're doing amazingly well
I don't have the exact numbers on me right now which wher might try and kill
me over because he's probably sent them for to me but anyways U they're doing
incredibly well so be sure to sign up on those teams cuz it's for a good cause
all right now I have one last thing for you guys and I'm going to go ahead and
just say this outright um what my motivation is for this uh this is LG's
G2 product information video uh for all
intents and purposes the W show is kind of over now but I would appreciate
very much if you guys would stay tuned for the next 3 or 4 minutes you'll learn
a little bit about the LG G2 which is their Flagship Android smartphone and
could very well I mean uh Marcus brownley covered this pretty well in his
video on the phone but this could very well be very close to what we're going
to see as the next Nexus device so guys
watch the video because I told them look okay yeah I will I will I'll put that
video out there for my viewers to see if you can get us a phone so we can make
our own video about it because otherwise we don't really have access to phones
very easily in particular LG we've never worked with them in the past so I
figured maybe this is a good way to kick things off and so guys if you really
don't want to watch it then tune out otherwise uh please do please do check
it out
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all right so if you wow 4,000 of you are still here thank you that's actually
fantastic because uh hopefully we can try out some of those features I
actually hadn't watched the video yet to be perfectly to be perfectly honest um
but we were we were looking at some of those kind of wondering okay well what
are they I mean the um the voic mate thing sounded to me kind of like sexting
but like voice like voic mating that's how you got to that I was
like what are you even talking about how does that possibly we were like we were
like Whispering whispering to each other during the during the video you know we
were we're all like hey did you see that wow that's cool uh things like the audio
Zoom I think that would be cool stuff to just kind of try out and find out if it
works so we'd love to get our hands on the phone uh without further Ado guys
thank you so much for tuning into the W show this week I hope you found it to be
a fun and enjoyable episode if you're just tuning in now or if you tuned in
sort of later on in the Stream we always upload the VOD onto YouTube and we are
automatically archiving to Twitch still we have that set now so you can also
check it out there if you don't want to wait for the Youtube upload but whenever
the show doesn't get interrupted we can get it up on YouTube really really fast
as long as they don't uh you know put any of those 18 plus restrictions on the
videos of us doing so
K everyone stop asking
me I get so many messages we should just leave this here
at the end of every show so people who miss it can just see this yeah and we
should just leave it streaming okay guys that's it show's over we're just going
to leave that there so y'all can stop asking us on Twitter we love your
Twitter messages we just want you to tweet us about something else we could
actually do that cuz technically what we could do is end the stream now so we have the video file finished then start
streaming again take off the camera stream so it's not pulling from the mic
and just leave the computer do this yeah okay maybe like temporary temporarily
take off twitch AR peace out ever