Samsung is NERFING phones! - WAN Show Mar. 2 2018
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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11,023 words · ~55 min read
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are you sure we are live now i remember the thing you
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were gonna fix the uh recording light
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that's what it was we don't have one but that's okay guys we've got a great show
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for you today we actually oh man we made some crazy
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crazy pants videos this week and by we i mean me and other people not you oh
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it is what it is dude it is what it is but you guys did something important
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this week too that's right yeah so what up
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yeah it's um apparently didn't excite people who were
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reading the the uh the WAN Show title last week you
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know it's a nephew okay it was one of the lowest viewed land shows it was an
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elite few in the last year the people that care care a lot and i love you for
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it but uh flow plane went alpha oh
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uh
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oh yeah yeah no no i don't i don't want to show that i super don't want to show
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that i'm going to put oh you know what i'm going to put don't put anything just log in i'm going to put minesweeper
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minesweeper doesn't come on Windows 10 does it no it doesn't that is so stupid
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uh the Windows team that microsoft hates fun
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why what is wrong with them
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i hate that you got to go to the xbox team
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for that all right anyway oh uh-oh
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uh well
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we are off to a super win showy start to
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the show today there folks uh let's go ahead wait this is the wrong
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one man that's the wrong one why is it called test why is it called test
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is it that oh
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okay let's let's get us out of the way here so you can just click that right
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yeah yeah rock on okay so check this out so i'm on my home which the only way to
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navigate to home right now is to click this which is not super intuitive we'll get that sorted out don't worry that's
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how most websites work that's fine the mobile the mobile one is
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it's a little weird the desktop that's completely fine that's fine
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i would say that should probably be like a more kind of different kind of home
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like maybe like actual like float playing home where you browse creators
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and stuff whereas like there should be like a like an all or
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something well we'll figure you know what he and i are going to work this out
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but basically you can see videos from creators that you follow or you could go
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to the important ones wow take that kyle
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and you can see what's uh what's gone up in the last week or so so this is it
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like this is actually the site you can subscribe using credit card it's a
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little yes but it you can well okay it's not like
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in the sense that like the the credit card data is being handled that way yeah
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it's being handled by stripe yeah like it's just stripe it's just like
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the the site itself around it
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it's alpha okay it works it's working but check this out you can see the
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videos that we have up on Floatplane that are not yet on youtube so i think
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most of these are already up and just so you guys know if you have a forum
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account uh actually regardless of if you have a subscription or not but if you
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have a forum account that has a flow plan subscription or a bit with ultra subscription you can go to fullplane.com
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connect the account by we're not going to show you because lastpass is going to
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autofill some information but if you go to the home page there's a more sign in
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options drop down button thingymajiggy click on that click and sign in with the
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ltd forum connect to your account and then you'll have access to whatever
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subscriptions you currently have oh smart
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way to go because you have add-ons disabled
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because you can enable add-ons in incognito if you want it but yeah click
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the sign in with ltd forum option the other ones don't work right now ll don't
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worry about it um click click on the sign up with ltd forum option uh connect
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your account you'll have access which is great so there's a couple at least a
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couple videos on there that are pretty freaking cool this is really cool we've
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got three vr headsets running off of a single motherboard
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single tower um using um
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virtualization uh we did the top five most insane cases
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yes that is a case that is a real case you can buy it if you're baller enough
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uh these are the feedback on these
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videos is really good and you can actually see the aforementioned feedback
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on the Floatplane website check that out no way oh hold on i don't know if audio
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is on sorry guys uh no way comments
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oh okay we should probably fix that jumped back up to the video yeah oh
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no maybe that okay i don't know what happened there but anyway check this out
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comments comments hey hey hey
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dig dug at all this is my first visit here so these are my initial impressions
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look and feel the sight is spot on heck yeah very professional looking there's
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teething problems there is like needing to log out and then in again after
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subscribing okay yep were you even aware of that one yet yeah i think okay the
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video buffering is an issue i'm stuck as low as 480p oh okay now that's weird
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because we've actually been we've done pretty well there um
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see it might be a location thing there's still some like
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easing in that needs to happen there yep should i do it switch 1080p see how see
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how well it goes there has been some minor problems with
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that and we've been doing some recon cool with that so that might be causing
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an issue right now ah right because i think we're trying to change it so that it remembers your last
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what you last selected properly without jumping to 360 first
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and then jumping back and then jumping back out and usually if you like pause
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it and then do it again it works because alpha whatever we're actually also
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having some issues with our connection here um at the office oh of course the
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second i switch it's like so it's working yeah it's a typical right
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correct and yeah now it's buffering um i suspect that's actually not Floatplane
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although it could be at this point because uh things are things are in a pretty
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delicate state right now but anyway
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the alpha's up um the the ncaa coding
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yeah it works every other time we've shown on when show and it will work
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again yep do not worry
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uh what have we got for topics this week like did anything oh right yeah things
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did happen no no the samsung galaxy s9 happened nope nothing happened that
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happened um what else do we have the ryzen 7 2700x is rumored to may have
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maybe be happening at some point um
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okay i think this is sort of a big deal this is back to the samsung galaxy s9 uh
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word on the street is that samsung might be nerfing the exynos version of the
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phone so that it's not too much better than the snapdragon 845 version
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that's so as to upset their customers okay so that's pretty that's pretty
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interesting you know that actually kind of makes sense uh celebrate oh go ahead
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it's dumb but it makes sense celebrate is advertising they can now break the
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security of iOS 11 including the iphone 10. and
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what else happened this week our intro worked
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brought to you by madrid's coffee brought to you by synergy too
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and brought to you by honey
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i mean anything sounds kind of weird when you say it like that but honey sounds especially weird
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apparently the sound is super quiet on the intro you know what whatever nice
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someone says they needed that for bingo so
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you know needed what your loss is someone else's gain
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nice all right i don't know man i don't know man
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all right let's jump right into our first topic here how would how would
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that be for and someone's going to lose their bingo if we start talking about
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tech any sooner than like 20 minutes into you know it wouldn't surprise me
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there's a lot of stuff that happens on this show a lot that probably shouldn't
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happen on the show quite soon no the the creator of rancho bingo uh tweeted me i
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felt i felt pretty special yeah yeah that's good that's good
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so this was posted by edward the weeb
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on the forum thanks for that edward there's the
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unnecessarily loud laugh tile
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uh the original article is from wccf tech AMD's second generation ryzen 7
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2700 rumored to be eight core 12 excuse
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me eight core 16 thread 3.7 gigahertz base up to 4.2 gigahertz
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boost with xfr so what this tells us is that um
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second generation ryzen is looking like a pretty small
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sort of tweak you know ironing out a couple wrinkles you know don't expect
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all of a sudden to be getting you know 48 core versions that are clocked at
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five gigahertz or anything like that evolutionary rather than revolutionary
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but um let's see 16 megs level three cash four
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meg's level
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i'd be surprised if it does to be perfectly honest is this gonna be priced
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above then or do you think they're just gonna i think they're gonna slot these
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in above the existing ones here you can see the spec sheet comparison
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so there's the 1700x here's the replacement 2700x so we're going down to
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12 nanometer which gets us anywhere from 200 to 300 megahertz uh higher clock
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speeds um at the same TDP
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one year later so i mean
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okay i can see some people being disappointed
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because verizon was like i forget what AMD was quoting
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it was like 40 or like
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60 percent better than their previous generation but
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that's not fair that was because AMD actually hadn't really done a whole lot
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in the last four to five years leading up to it
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and so as much as it's easy to harp on Intel for these
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incremental generational improvements in CPU
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performance now we're seeing that when all AMD has
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to work with is a very small
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manufacturing process shrink
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it's really hard to do those generational leaps in performance the
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way that they did way back in the day like when AMD went
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from the barton core to uh sledgehammer
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clawhammer i think were the first were those the first f164s within minutes of
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announcing oh okay well that's fun um
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and like when Intel went from the net burst family up to conroe
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so that doesn't really happen that often anymore and it's funny now that i think
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about it when Intel did it way back when that was
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because they had been not necessarily sitting on ass for a few
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years but they had been uh barking up the wrong tree for a few years that's
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for sure yeah so hmm i wonder how long it has been since
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we've seen like a massive improvement like where could we find the last one
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maybe it would be athlon 64.
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on AMD's side or i mean in general yeah no just in general the last time we saw
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a really big generational improvement with that said conroe to Intel's
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integrated memory controller was a pretty big leap too because we went no
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because they introduced quad core first hard to say in terms of i know i know it
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wasn't in a lot of different ways but in terms of like
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uh customer understanding and usability
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which is a weird thing largely due to naming but uh sandy bridge you think so
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i think a lot of people kind of got it more
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so you know what i'm going to pick my moment for me the last the biggest CPU
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improvement in performance was not actually
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barton to clawhammer for me the biggest difference i saw was from um yeah again
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my point is not just performance stuff like i felt like
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the community like paying attention to forums and stuff like that i felt like
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people understood more with that one because
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the product naming scheme i think made more sense for a lot of people so i
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think it was winchester was the last
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single core no venice might have been san diego oh
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crap which one was it uh athlon 64 models
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apparently something wrong with the camera something looks okay to me
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hello yeah okay um the camera is tilted what
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yeah okay so i oh no no it's uh it's not centered
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yeah the the thing is yeah whatever yes doesn't matter yeah yeah i'm over it um
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also there's some moire in your sweater if we want to get really you know upset
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about little things that we don't worry about on the lan show um so for me the
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big one was going from single core athlon 64 to i think it was the toledo
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core going to dual core athlon 64. because that was
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it wasn't a big improvement for gaming because back then what are they
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sorry just keep going i'll be back
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i can't do it myself okay
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oh max is here max is coming to save us
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because it wasn't a big improvement for gaming you got to remember that games
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did not benefit from dual core cpus back
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in those days but what it was was a huge improvement
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to the gaming experience if you had things running in the background and it
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was a huge improvement to really the experience of doing anything
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at the same time that was when multitasking yeah yeah yeah really happened for me yeah
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um and that's a really big deal especially in terms of user experience
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yep yeah and it's like this it's the same way and you know the funny thing is
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i remember arguing on forums about dual core
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back in the day because people who
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didn't see the bigger picture who just saw the benchmarks on whatever
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the site they preferred was and saw that in all their favorite games it didn't
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make a difference those people would come out and say you're paying literally twice as much
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for literally twice as many CPU cores and it doesn't make any difference
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and it's the same argument that i would have with people
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when ssds were first starting to gain popularity
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where they'd go well the benchmarks don't indicate a significant difference
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in performance other than like boot time
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and um they're very low capacity feels
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amazing but it feels really different and that's what it was like then yeah
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and honestly since since the first good ssds so like back when Intel launched
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the x25m i haven't really had that experience again
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what was the first i'm not going to google i was just asking you you probably know what was the first
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generation that Intel introduced k for their unlockable skus i believe it was
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the 2600k yeah yeah so this is kind of no no no
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and back then the uh so the 875k
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was uh yeah yeah yeah linfield
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midfield yeah linfield so linfield was architecturally the same as bloomfield
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which was the high-end socket 1366 platform
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um i think it'd be fair to say that sandy bridge popularized that though
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yeah so that was a big difference for you i think so hmm interesting i found
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on on forums and discussing with my friends and all this kind of stuff
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people understood it a lot more when sandy bridge came around and they
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changed the number of schemes of things there's easier to understand like i5 i7
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really 2600k 2500k
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k non k we're taking this to a straw poll
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because it could be my little bubble i don't know i want to know
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okay so there's a couple of angles to this but but i'll i'll get into it
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okay core i x
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more or less confusing than before and to be clear
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if you want to understand the entire stack it might even be slightly more
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confusing but if you're like is this one better or worse
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it's it's kind of easy okay guys hit that straw poll i've got that in the
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twitch chat hit the straw poll so okay so here's the problem
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within a generation and within a product family remembering
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that laptop product family is not the same as desktop product family and not
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the same as um you know enterprise
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product family then i i i can see
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core i3 core i5 core i7 being simpler to understand
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however from generation to generation i would argue when it got way worse i'm
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just saying with that generation that brought people into understanding yeah
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and i feel like a lot of people held on after that but yes it got messy it was
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really confusing i mean nowadays you'll see posts on craigslist where people are
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just saying core i7 pc yeah you know 300 or whatever
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but we're way beyond we're not in sandy bridge generation anymore okay
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okay and now and now i think understanding has gone up as a whole
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so you see that and you go i know that's bs and then you look into it i think the
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understand and i know people are interested wow this is like 50 50.
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i don't remember the last time i saw our community this evenly split
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that's crazy
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i i think it i think sandy bridge brought the understanding of the entire
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industry as a community up
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and i think people held on whether this is people saying is it confusing in
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general now well it's confusing now now absolutely um
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but i think like the knowledge base as a community has gone up okay and you can
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argue like oh well i was on overclock.net back in 2003 and we
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understood way more back then sure yeah definitely ocn is not a good
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sample to pick from though yeah because you're all hardcore you guys are not
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representative of the general population all the forum dudes
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yeah probably knew what was going on yeah that's not who i'm talking about i'm
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going a little bit i mean forums as in like gaming forums and stuff not like
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overclocking computer hardware forums so this is an interesting point on a cage
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in twitch chat said something kind of insightful LTT viewers are more
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technical in general so if 50 of us see it as more confusing regular people have
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no hope i don't think that's but what's interesting
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where i'm going with this is think about it this way i think
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regular people who go yeah i get it i3 is less than i5
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is less than i7 would actually vote less confusing yes
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even if they didn't know it but they were really
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confused or are totally wrong
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right definitely yeah so which is what i liked about sandy
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bridge and they just over years of different launches and
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releases okay so this is interesting this is a really good point from uh nfsm
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654. it's with sandy bridge
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some of the core i5s were dual core with onboard graphics so this was before
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Intel standardized on onboard graphics being on everything because they were
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still building the igpu on the package
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but not onto the die yet so core chips didn't have enough room
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for onboard graphics and the dual cores did meaning that intercompatibility on
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motherboards was actually quite confusing
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so i still maintain i think the overall
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knowledge base of the community went up and some of that's definitely
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boiled into okay there was a really weird naming change that just happened
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what's going on sorry did i say sandy bridge linfield i'm sorry linfield
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linfield um i think a lot of it was what's going on and people talking about
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the differences between different processors and what threads are and all
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of this other kind of stuff um and like the differences between
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threads and cores a lot of these conversations started around the sandy
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bridge time and a lot of people actually cared about processor specs
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and now it's kind of a mess
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and a lot of people are interested in cpus but the more recent interest in
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cpus has been hey there's competition now what's better to explain to me
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what's better and that's because AMD i like AMD um
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i finally have something to upgrade to yeah
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so it's not i'm not necessarily saying that it was a good thing i'm not saying
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i'm just saying that the the i think the knowledge base as a whole increased at
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that time right and i like that
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all right let's move on to i don't know i don't care anymore uh
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let's move on to the galaxy s9 so this was posted in the forum by
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d13h4rd2livee
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die hard to live in the very worst leet speak of all
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and there's no spaces yeah
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but anyway you noticed that edouard the weeb had uh your
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like cat ear long purple hair photo
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thing that was his avatar no no i did
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not it was all right so the original article here is from techcrunch.com
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uh with the galaxy their headline is with the galaxy s9 samsung put the
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fingerprint sensor where it belongs and i guess that's probably the headline because there isn't a whole lot else to
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say about it i actually missed my briefing today that i was supposed to
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attend oh no i still don't have a device how will
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we know what its specs and stuff are but fortunately um
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sort of news flash for the canadian pr
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team the rest of the world is a thing
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and the internet is wow the internet whoa
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and so i can just read about this stuff on other publications websites that's
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amazing where they already know this stuff because they already had their
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briefings like a week ago not that i'm salty or upset or anything
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it's just that it's like the internet being in canada is like a
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big like a big dick slap sometimes
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you don't matter as much yeah your population is literally one tenth
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of the us less than the state of california
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you know what we don't give a spit
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anyway it's got the best dxo mark rating
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ever of 99 though it should be cl it
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should be uh noted that the pixel 2 is at 98 and the iphone 10 is at 97. so we
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really are splitting hairs at this point uh looks pretty similar to last gen but
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better camera um as i just mentioned snapdragon 845 in the us and china and
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then exynos whatever the crap it is something nine something something um
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elsewhere uh they moved the fingerprint sensor to a more usable spot i think i
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already said that they're gonna have animojis
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um though to be clear they're not normal
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emojis like apples they're more like we me or bitmoji do you remember me on the
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nintendo wii well i don't know probably the biggest
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nintendo fanboy you know did they have it on the wii u yeah wait did you have a
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wii you had a wii yeah yeah okay nevermind i play more wii now than i did when it
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launched it's still great actually there's yeah i only play wii sports
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yeah my son loves wii sport wii sports is amazing i actually i interrupt this
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very compelling news about the samsung galaxy s9 to bring you
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um a personal confession um something that is actually really hard for me to
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talk about it's it's it's actually related to the nintendo wii
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so uh as some of you probably know my son is about five and uh wow he's almost
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six holy crap wait did he beat you at something shut up okay let me just
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i need to ease myself into this okay
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so my son is almost six and
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could you maybe enjoy this a little less
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i'm so excited sorry continue
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my son is almost sick shut up just keep going just chill out i
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believe in you so my son is almost six and um he's been
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playing we we actually created him ephraim when he was like three and a
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half i was like trying to see if like the stick wiggling was simple enough
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that he could it wasn't he wasn't he wasn't ready yet but over probably the
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last year or so he's gotten to the point where he
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actually uses the wii more than the vive which is
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depressing for a whole other set of reasons yeah
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um but but he's gotten to the point where he's played enough wii sports
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that first like he would he was like a pro in wii tennis right you know how you
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can play against the computer and you get over a thousand skill level and
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you're a pro at tennis in the tennis one um that's not uh the tennis one's pretty
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easy um and but he got to the point where he was not just a pro but he had a
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skill level of like 1650 or something which was more than mine mine was 1400
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and something but the reason that my skill level wasn't very high was
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i never played single player i would always play against my wife or like
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my sister-in-law because the last time i used the wii was when i still lived with
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my wife's parents so it was like the family console and
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we'd like tool around on sunday night playing wii sports or whatever yeah okay
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so so i was quite a bit better than my skill level would indicate so he would
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like he would go all like five-year-old kind of sulky
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my skill level's higher but you still beat me
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like without without even using like the cheap return
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whenever you miss a power smash there's a cheap return that if you time it's not
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even that hard to time but it's ungettable on both the forehand and the
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backhand if they don't manage to power serve um
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and so i would beat him like without even using that
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then and he'd complain he'd be whining about
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it then like a couple months later i'm playing against him
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and he takes a set and i'm just like
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ah okay like i wasn't really paying attention i
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was holding the baby in the other hand and i was like oh shoot well okay um
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darling can you get down i gotta i gotta beat your brother at wii tennis um
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then he takes another set and i go
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what so i'm like okay full-on cheap mode now
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so i'm i'm doing cheap returns like ungettable returns i'm power serving
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everything to him and i win it
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okay so i take i take three sets in a row and he's like oh i almost beat you
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literally like two weeks later he he sweeps me
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and i'm like is this petty
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you know what i don't care rematch i asked for i asked my five-year-old son
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for a rematch
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he beats me again three straight
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three straight again
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oh i don't even feel bad about him kicking my ass at wii boxing because we
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boxing is quite frankly just who can flail the best and i'll like i'll play
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against him and i'll like try and time punches and it's just like
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come on it's better to flail like it's actually better to flail and it's so
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funny the way he plays it is so funny i have a video of him doing
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this that i'm saving for his wedding but instead of just like going like this
28:29
he gets his whole body going and it's just like
28:33
so the kid the kid will like
28:36
he'll come out of playing a couple games of wii boxing like drenched i'm like wow
28:42
this is great because the whole idea behind the wii
28:47
was that it was more physical yeah yeah until like
28:50
jackasses like me figured out that they could play twilight princess like this
28:54
yeah you know
28:59
and like yeah i'm still joystick waggling or whatever but i'm not i'm not
29:02
moving yeah yeah um so i can still kick his butt at golf
29:08
i can still crush him at bowling actually almost got a perfect game
29:12
i missed one pin on the first one which made me feel a lot better than all
29:18
strikes through to the end and then i missed one pin on the end so i'm actually really glad i missed that one
29:22
pin at the beginning because otherwise that one at the end would have destroyed
29:25
me as a person yeah we use sports club um oh oh is
29:30
there a wii u one yeah okay cool maybe i should get a wii u it's probably cheap
29:35
yeah and then what's the what's the last game
29:40
oh the baseball baseball movie is just stupid like yeah he beat me at baseball
29:44
but like baseball is just a matter of like who luckily connects with a pitch
29:49
because as soon as a human is pitching you could just throw all the cheapest
29:54
garbage and it's like unhittable do you have the improved sensors i don't okay i
29:58
don't think wii sports is wii motion plus compatible though so i don't think it matters
30:02
the uh the wii u controllers have it built in yeah and they're the same size
30:07
as the default controllers okay which is kind of nice cool um and i believe all
30:12
wii u games work with it because it's the default controller yeah okay well
30:16
maybe maybe i'll get a wii u at some point but anyway
30:20
that was my confession it actually happened i was actually trying not just
30:25
trying already like i was i was hitting cheap shots that i knew he didn't know
30:29
about this is like playing like nhlpa 94
30:33
and doing wrap-arounds on the bottom yeah yeah yeah when someone else doesn't
30:37
know about it like that is to be fair that's how i was playing wrap rounds are
30:41
pretty easy to like pick up on if someone's doing it to you yeah yeah
30:46
dude man like i that's pretty rough yeah um what is the
30:51
number one game that would hurt for him to be better
30:56
than you at you know i'm not really that good at
30:59
anything um yeah like there's there's games where i
31:03
just really wouldn't expect him to ever be better than me like i don't think
31:06
he'll ever be better at a side scroller just because that genre is not really
31:09
popular like like modern side-scrollers what like trine like that's not a
31:14
yeah not so much like there's some like really niche like ultra hardcore yeah
31:18
like you could argue the super meat boy is a modern ish side scroller but even
31:22
that it's like years old and and like it's a dying it's it's it was like a
31:27
yeah it was like the you like press down on the chest of the corpse and it's like
31:32
like it's not breathing anymore it's just like a last last gasp so to speak um
31:38
cop head doesn't no like so yeah i wouldn't yeah cuphead's not that's not
31:43
it's not super mario world yeah it's more advanced than that there's
31:47
more there's a lot more to it so if he were to beat me like if he were to be
31:52
better than me at like super mario world i'd feel pretty
31:56
devastated but i don't expect that to happen it would be kind of like it would
32:00
be kind of like me being better at shuffleboard than my grandparents like
32:04
yeah if i put enough time into it i could probably do it but i wouldn't care
32:08
yeah yeah yeah yeah like i'd be concerned about him
32:16
so badminton no i fully expect him to be better at me
32:21
than better than me at badminton i am planning to be when do you think
32:25
that will happen i'm going to be paying like 75 an hour for badminton coaching
32:29
for him within the next few months oh like he is going prodigy level he's
32:34
going to the best badminton facility in canada
32:39
he is going to be it's here actually arguably
32:42
there's been there's been more national level players but there are other
32:46
other places have done well too they've had they've had good products as well um
32:50
and then if he's good enough i would happily pay for him to train overseas if
32:54
it comes to that so as far as i'm concerned if he is not
32:57
beating me at badminton by the time he's about 11 or 12 then we need to
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re-evaluate because i'm not that good
33:04
so is he's into it yeah he likes it yeah
33:07
yeah because you've already brought him like no he's already i wanted to make times a week i knew that i wanted to get
33:11
that out of you so twitch chat knows that you're not just being with like
33:15
no not kind of dad yeah he's already playing a couple times a week he likes
33:18
it yeah i also fully expect him to be better at martial arts than me although
33:22
by the time he by the time he gets like a
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huh oh shoot this is going to happen sooner than i had sort of thought about but by
33:30
the time he hits like 9 or 10 and he hits sort of like red brown belt i'm probably gonna have
33:35
to try and get back into it so i don't get passed too quickly there but yeah i
33:39
i fully expect him to be better than me at everything if he's not then i failed as a parent because that's your job
33:44
can i be like a boss along the way a boss yeah
33:48
i think he's probably gonna be quite a bit smaller than you for ever
33:54
have you seen his mother but he'll be more responsible he'll be more skilled
33:57
he'll be like the light character that you choose on the phone that's the funny
34:01
thing about that is um there's a reason
34:05
that like the ufc doesn't have heavyweights fight
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yeah i guess at 0.2 seconds you wouldn't even have time for end trigger
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okay we'll see this is interesting so the original
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article here is from a non-tech i was just browsing through and i don't really
41:04
know how this wasn't bigger news
41:08
i mean anantech called it awkward first results
41:12
that's one way of putting it but in a nutshell
41:16
it'll be either exynos 9810 or snapdragon 845 and if we go down
41:26
what's the final clock speed that they'll use blah blah blah blah blah
41:30
blah blah active blah blah blah memory latency
41:34
etc etc okay
41:38
big little design here we go here we go
41:43
so geekbench 4 single core performance
41:46
snapdragon 845 got absolutely
41:51
crushed by the 9810
41:55
how very interesting
41:59
uh last generation etc etc okay again uh
42:02
oh wait that's uh still geekbench for us it splits it out pc mark work 2.0
42:07
so the 9810 uh does not crush the snapdragon 845 here
42:13
where is it yup there snapdragon 845 is right up on the top but basically
42:17
oh thank you for that okay what seems very clear something's
42:22
wrong oh no oh
42:26
luke was plugging in my power did i actually not make it almost got it by
42:31
like milliseconds i almost got it oh man
42:35
oh that was great i know it's fine they can't see it um
42:40
okay oh man okay so clearly there's something
42:46
kind of wrong and basically the writer checked in with
42:49
samsung here we go i did get confirmation okay here we go
42:55
samsung spokesman confirmed that the demo unit
42:58
was running special firmware for mobile world conference so these results
43:03
because you can clearly see they're totally bunged up because the pc mark
43:07
score has the um exynos 9810 getting creamed by even the
43:13
last generation exynos yeah um last generation snapdragon
43:18
and of course current generation snapdragon so clearly something's wrong
43:22
here so confirmation that the demo units were running a special firmware and they
43:26
might not be optimized uh he's having a hard time believing they
43:30
would so drastically limit the performance of the device for show units honestly i don't find that that hard to
43:35
believe all kinds of games get played with
43:38
phone firmware for shows and even for reviewers but check this out
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did get confirmation that samsung is planning to tune down the exynos variant
43:49
to match snapdragon performance
43:53
wow so i'm actually not sure how that wasn't bigger news because i can see
43:59
a lot of different ways that people can get upset about this and i can't see a
44:03
lot of ways where people wouldn't be a little bit upset about this
44:07
so the two ways i can see people being upset upset number one
44:10
would be if i got a snapdragon 845 galaxy s9 because there's always
44:15
controversy there yeah and with apple it was even so what was it a10 was the
44:21
first one they did it on where they dual sourced from tsmc and and then one of
44:25
them was better than they forget yeah one of them was arguably
44:29
sometimes better than the other and it was mostly
44:32
in terms of battery life where people were getting upset because one of them was a little bit more power efficient
44:36
but it was close enough i think it was within five percent like it was close
44:40
enough that you were also playing around with the variations in
44:44
battery capacity at that point um
44:47
so i can see people being upset about getting the perceived trashier chip the
44:52
other thing i could see people being upset about is if you're in the european
44:55
or asian market and you've got an exynos 8895 getting having it be
45:01
nerfed and see this is probably one of those situations yo what's up samsung
45:05
this is probably one of those situations where samsung realized that this these
45:09
problems could happen so they decided to try to quietly make
45:13
them the same so that people wouldn't argue which you know from a certain standpoint
45:18
i kind of understand they're like we just don't want people to freak out
45:22
so if we make everything the same then it's great but then people are going to freak out because then they should have
45:26
gotten an advantage is this sound
45:29
is this samsung kind of going
45:32
well you know the canadian region probably won't care
45:36
about this phone until such time as it's available
45:39
through canadian carriers so let's just not bother briefing them like is this
45:43
them going you know what you know outside of the u.s americans probably
45:48
don't read you know non-american news outlets so they're probably not going to
45:52
like look that closely at the exynos version so like as long as we see all the us
45:57
outlets with snapdragon ones should be fine like are they is this them going
46:02
okay as long as we keep it contained within a region then no one will figure
46:06
this out and you know the mainstream consumer probably wouldn't
46:09
is that what's happening here
46:13
wow um i think okay so i think it's been proven many
46:17
many many times that nerds are going to figure it out
46:21
mainstream consumer no mainstream consumer is not going to care there's an
46:25
iterative number they're going to see it's the s9 and they'll want it if
46:29
they're getting a new phone for whatever reason okay i've got a lot of people
46:32
asking this and we really need to we really need to address it uh i can't
46:38
find the first person who asked it but let's um
46:41
let's go down to this one uh who was it
46:44
ah man something something okay whatever the
46:48
question is why here we go uh der fuhrer123 oh
46:53
seriously why did i read that why doesn't samsung use exynos in the
46:58
u.s and china and then another person asked why does
47:03
samsung a not a designer and fabricator of
47:08
mobile cpus not used there why do they use qualcomm cpus
47:13
in their phones and the answer is actually
47:17
a little more uh interesting than you might at first
47:22
think um there was a different word i was looking for and i'm complicated no it
47:27
was like delicate but it wasn't delicate it was a little more
47:31
subtle a little more whatever i forget
47:35
so the reason oh so radio compatibility is actually
47:39
one factor um but
47:42
samsung could probably figure out how to support more bands with their chipset if
47:47
they really pretty sure that wanted to hard enough um
47:51
but one nuanced nuanced thank you that's the no that was the chat thank you chat
47:56
nuances i just i read it in channels like absolutely so there are business
47:59
reasons for doing it so first of all within samsung's different business
48:04
units like for example their fabrication unit that also as you guys probably know
48:09
builds RAM or nand flash or even processors for
48:14
competitors within samsung's different business
48:17
units i have it on fairly good authority that samsung
48:21
unit a won't actually get a discount compared to the open market from samsung
48:26
unit b so if samsung mobile wants to buy nand
48:29
flash for their phones for storage they don't get like a discount compared to if
48:35
apple were buying it it's all down to that business unit the the fabrication
48:40
business unit needing to make the best profits they can and negotiating deals
48:45
based on volume based on capacity based on all the things that they would
48:49
normally do so there's one reason why samsung mobile might not be married to
48:55
exynos chips reason number two
48:59
is that building a CPU is really hard
49:03
every time look at snapdragon 810 even qualcomm who
49:08
has been other than apple basically the undisputed leader
49:12
for a lot of the last few years can
49:16
really screw it up sometimes so if samsung were to just say haha for
49:22
our note and s lineup we are not going
49:25
to use your top tier chips we're going to stop marketing qualcomm
49:30
technology being good we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna burn this bridge
49:35
because we can make our own cpus
49:38
if samsung were to do that and then flub
49:41
up a generation or two generations of
49:44
chips they could put their galaxy s or
49:47
no products at a significant disadvantage compared to the lg's and
49:51
htc's of the world guys who
49:55
didn't invest in that fabrication technology but also
49:59
aren't taking that risk so samsung is dual sourcing not just to make up fabric
50:05
fab capacity which as far as we can tell is why apple does it also to play the
50:10
different fabricators against each other um
50:14
oh yeah that's another reason so that they can play samsung's own business
50:17
unit against uh external ones um
50:21
where was i going with this right so there's also a business reason
50:25
for dual sourcing not just to make up fab capacity but also to hedge your bets
50:30
so samsung has the ability to ramp up and do exynos in more regions if
50:35
you know qualcomm ships a dud again but they can also cover for their own dud in
50:39
the event that qualcomm's technology is significant that's a huge one and
50:43
samsung they can't really okay i'm 100 certain they can afford it but i'm going
50:47
to say in this immediate apparently they're also legally required to use
50:51
their tips and their phones it's a 25 year old agreement
50:54
weird so that's another one uh but but
50:58
having another big launch failure would be really bad this close to their phone
51:03
bombs remember too samsung could also just use qualcomm chips in their lower
51:07
end stuff it's not like samsung doesn't have a bazillion models of phones yeah
51:10
um but why they might do it on within a single model there's a lot of reasons so
51:16
there's that and then there's all the other stuff that we're talking about as
51:19
well all right
51:22
apparently also qualcomm cdma patent and licensing so until cdma goes away
51:28
they'll just basically be forced to but with all of that said i have an exynos
51:32
galaxy s8 it works fine in the states but it just might not work on all
51:35
carriers so it wouldn't work on sprint um who else is still cdma cdma will be
51:40
going away sometime in the next little bit it can't be that many carriers
51:44
though i don't think it's that mean i don't know who uses cdma still who in
51:48
canada uh bell did until recently i
51:51
don't know if they do anymore they might be gsm now
51:55
yeah i don't i don't pay that close attention so 18
51:59
really they're all still using it spring verizon
52:02
and u.s cellular i didn't know verizon was still using cdma at t and t mobile are gsm
52:10
fun according to google anyway and then apparently bell mobility in
52:14
ontario quebec is still cdma
52:17
tell us the cdma here there you go interesting but we don't know
52:21
necessarily that they're only using it yeah um
52:25
so yeah again i don't pay that close attention
52:28
to that stuff because i'm just not that big of a cell
52:31
phone nerd if i'm going to be honest with you guys uh what else do we have for news oh
52:36
i don't know i just got dropped out of the dock for no reason happens once a
52:40
show really bad timing i don't know why it
52:44
does that perfect uh celebrate is now
52:48
advertising they can break the security of iOS 11 including the iphone 10.
52:52
they're pretty cheap too original article is from forbes
52:57
do you have to have the phone physically in their possession yep so you'd have to
53:01
ship it to them and apparently it can cost as little as fifteen hundred
53:04
dollars per unlock their service can determine or disable determine or
53:09
disable that's a big difference actually because determining if you get someone's
53:14
phone temporarily when they lost it and you ship it off and get their pin and
53:18
then get it back and get whatever you want and then be like oh my god i found your phone um yeah not great uh yeah
53:24
they can determine or disable the pin pattern password screen locks or
53:27
passcodes on the latest apple iOS and google Android devices
53:32
yeah brutal so uh we have to take this with the
53:36
claim of with a grain of salt because um celebrates business is
53:43
breaking security of devices for like forensic data analysis
53:46
um so you know they might just be looking for some free press
53:50
but it seems like it would be sort of a bad move
53:54
to put out something that's designed to get you a bunch of free press and then
53:58
anytime anyone contacts you about it you can't actually do it yeah
54:02
um so they haven't even publicly announced
54:06
it but apparently they're advertising the capability to their customers so that sounds pretty credible yeah
54:11
it can determine or disable the pin the pattern the password screen locks or
54:15
passcodes on the latest devices wow
54:18
wow wow pretty brutal not a fan of this really
54:25
that's pretty much it actually is there like anything else that happened this week that like is super important
54:31
we don't have anything else in the dock because james has been busy on a really
54:34
cool project have you even seen this yet no like you're so out of touch these
54:38
days wow so we built um we've lost your
54:41
son in tennis
54:46
huh you know what tell you what why don't we play i'll
54:50
tell you i'll lose but i'm down i'm down fine i'll get wrecked but it sounds
54:54
entertaining anyway it's a cool project so i was kind of inspired by um
55:00
the tape deck that we have in our house for some reason and you know how
55:04
you you used to be you pressed like a physical button like a mechanical button
55:09
to kind of uh to switch things yeah yeah so i was like you know what would be
55:12
really cool a gaming setup where you've got like a tactile button for switching
55:18
between your different devices different devices yeah
55:23
so because you know pc gaming is not the only kind of game yeah i got you so
55:28
james and Anthony collaborated we didn't actually end up with as cool buttons as
55:31
i'd hoped they're like vandal resistant switches unfortunately but but what is
55:36
cool is that i wanted to work like an RGB element into it so they built a desk not
55:42
quite scratch built but like used the ikea desk builder then modified it quite
55:45
heavily that has a bunch of circuitry in the top including an arduino um
55:52
and an HDMI switcher so that what you can do is there's three
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RGB color-coded lights on the front for the three gaming systems that are in
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shelves working their way down along down one side yeah and then when you so
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when you press the red one it does the top and then the RGB lighting in the drawer
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illuminates and the input switches on your monitor this legit sounds like a
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sellable so you're on your pc thing then you press the second button the RGB
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lighting illuminates matching the button the middle one and you switch to your
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xbox press the third one you switch to your playstation 4 pro that's really cool
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pretty cool right you guys should figure out how to sell this as a kit
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uh it's kind of janky still it would require significant
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uh further development to make it ready for prime time that'd be so cool though
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but you know we okay so we know a lot of other guys out there have been doing
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like setups for a while yeah and so for us you know we we've had some ideas for
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setups like you saw the projector one right with the projector built into the
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desk that was very cool yeah so we've had some ideas for setups but like we
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really wanted to find a way to make sure that what we're doing is different from
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what anyone else is doing so that was where the idea of
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projector built into your desk or like a
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physical button to switch inputs between your different gaming systems came from
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and i really like it i think this is something that we're going to continue
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to do and uh you know i'd love to see people's ideas if you want to post them
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on the forum i am actually fairly active over there yeah i don't post a lot but i
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do read a lot yeah um yeah
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yeah i really i'm really happy with it um
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all right so i think that's pretty much it
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cool we have a ton of people um
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no yeah viewing too we've got like 6 000 viewers and we've got a bunch of people
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cheering oh this is a new thing
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oh yeah so it used to just show the top
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cheer like ever yeah now it shows the
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weekly top cheers and it like totals their cheers so like this dude i'm a
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broke dude who's hilarious hilariously number one cheerer right now
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you're broke yeah then maybe you stop that um if he talks in chat if any of
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these top three talk in chat they have a little medal next to the name and his
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will show one his will show a two and b silver his or show three and b bronze
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and then the one guys is gold got it okay
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neat it's a new thing oh apparently there was switch see there there look oh
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i'm a broke dude and it shows one right next to him on a gold medal oh oh no
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there was other news uh the xbox one x and the xbox one s are getting 1440p
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support so that's dope
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uh what would that already be there no they
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supported 1080 and 4k oh so now if you don't care about 4k which you probably
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shouldn't because you're gaming on a tv um oh so you can tell it oh okay okay
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okay okay cool right i see what you mean now that's very cool actually yeah okay
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i'm totally on board now apparently at first i was like what the heck apparently there was nintendo switch
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news i don't know what it was what uh
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uh uh uh no i don't know oh okay you can use a
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playstation 4 controller that's an article that i saw earlier that i
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thought was kind of neat anyway i think the 1s and the 1x supporting 1440p is a
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way bigger deal because if you use a console at like in a dorm or whatever
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you probably don't have a 4k tv you probably don't have a tv at all you
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probably have your desk which if you're smart has like a big monitor
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so you can use it as a monitor and as a tv if you're smart and you're a baller
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although they're not that expensive these days especially like compared to a tv anyway the point is a big monitor
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will probably be 1440p if you don't want to spend a whole bunch of money for 4k
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and if you get like university experience was anything if there's big
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screens in dorms at all uh they're probably tvs and they're
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probably real old right okay so fine if
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you're a baller student you can get one of those korean 1440p monitors on ebay
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you can hook that up to your pc and now to your xbox and you can get better
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image quality we know about the github thing github got nailed by a massive
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ddos and they recovered real quick good job github there we go yeah it was huge
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though it's a gigantic ddos but yeah they recovered quite quickly
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good job github see you again next week saying that time same bad channel bye
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slo-mo from madrina's is like yeah um we're already past the 300 so
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um yep
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the biggest d does
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greatest g-dust
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no no that's just someone posting twitch chat i was just reading their comment oh
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okay we have the best ddos