The WAN Show - 5K monitors, VACancy, Free Gigabit Wifi in NYC - November 21, 2014

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2015-05-07 · 19,013 words · ~95 min read
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0:00 we are live
0:04 hooray welcome to the show we both have new attire today as you may
0:10 or may not have noticed luke has my wonderful dolphin christmas sweater that
0:16 thing that he's wearing the best dolphin christmas sweater ever and i have what i
0:20 think is probably going to be our most popular t-shirt design ever good reason
0:26 too it's both rocking the keep on digging shirts
0:31 yeah and then truthfully i actually have a horrible christmas sweater too so it's
0:36 it's getting to be that time of year and uh here we go yeah oh yeah
0:43 shark christmas so start christmas and dolphin so i
0:46 think obviously the first thing we're going to talk about on the show today is
0:51 sharks versus dolphins who is superior
0:55 uh well i think sharks would be more superior in like a
0:58 physical aggressive kind of matter
1:02 and then dolphins are more superior in like the logic and apparently sex kind
1:06 of matter better at sex well aren't they aren't
1:09 they the only other mammal that has sex for five i think this is the fa no i
1:13 think it's pigs actually i think this is the pigs have half an hour
1:18 fun times but i don't think they actually do it for like recreation
1:22 now we're gonna have to consult the twitch chat because if there's anything
1:25 i would expect the twitch chat to be an expert on
1:29 it would be it would be animal sex oh no
1:34 oh man somebody said dolphins can kill sharks maybe but like no one's like oh
1:39 no there's a dolphin this is true i was actually hoping you didn't know that uh
1:43 dolphins can be can be a big problem if they if they get aggressive because
1:48 they're uh they're super powerful that's why the whenever you go like swimming
1:51 with dolphins you only swim with the female dolphins yes you don't send the male dolphins because they'll wreck you
1:56 uh okay we've got a lot of people saying that they're right luke's right dolphins
2:00 have sex for pleasure apparently
2:04 okay i don't know if twitch chat knows as much as they think they know dolphins
2:08 kill more people a year than sharks and rape them um i'm thinking that's not
2:13 actually what happens it's possible they kill people
2:16 it's the second part that i'm a little uncertain about there's there's yeah i'm
2:20 not gonna get into it but there's there's some stuff for that second one
2:24 yeah i'm sure there's i'm sure there's an incident
2:28 but um anyways moving on we have some pretty cool topics this week that don't
2:32 have to do with sharks or dolphins actually like not at all yeah
2:37 christmas dolphins um so some cs go vac pros uh cs go pros got vac banned there
2:43 we go i got vac pros pros what um anyways
2:48 we'll talk about that more later gopro
2:52 cs gopro and it's like a little dude with a deagle but it's absolutely just
2:55 and now that we've started this it's only a matter of time until some like
2:59 counter terrorist agent starts is that is that me hey hey
3:03 it's only a matter of time until some light counter terrorism agent starts
3:07 wearing a gopro on all his apps cs gopro
3:12 just becomes youtube sensation immediately anyways also
3:16 bittorrent is introducing some possible if you want them to be their pay gates
3:20 which pay a lot more to the contributing artist than most other services
3:24 dell's 5k monitor is rumored to be
3:28 coming in at a much lower price than we had originally anticipated i'm guessing
3:32 they got somewhat surprised by apple's pricing of the imac
3:36 retina 5k and then origin pc it looks like i'm
3:41 assuming i actually don't know if it's going to be a limited
3:44 time offer but it sounds like it for their fifth anniversary they are going
3:48 to be selling their cases both the mid tower um and the full tower
3:54 stand alone so you don't actually have to buy an origin pc in order to get that
3:59 pretty fantastic genesis and millennium
4:03 case that allows your motherboard to be oriented five different five different
4:07 ways four different ways there is no additional dimension that the case
4:11 creates it goes like flat and
4:14 you you don't have the side panel and it just comes side panels off so it's like kind of a
4:19 test bench but not really and if you got it going fast enough you could probably
4:23 get it flying case put jets on the back and put
4:28 some little case wheels on the bottom and just hope it works people are complaining about the background noise
4:32 the window's open because it's hot in here and we're wearing christmas sweaters because tis the season to sweat
4:38 buckets because we're in bc so there's no snow
4:43 oh yeah
4:53 oh yeah there's audio i'm just singing for fun now
5:01 our sponsors this week are lynda.com the
5:05 fun place to learn look how much fun she's having that's
5:08 linda you can have that much fun online
5:12 i have that much fun actually i think there are sites where you can have a lot more fun than that online but this is
5:16 educational fun i have an adequate amount of fun online also 5'4 club they
5:21 are going to be reminding you guys or i guess i'm going to be reminding you guys
5:25 on their behalf about their sweet
5:28 fantastic amazing giveaway that's like
5:32 actually the craziest clothing giveaway we've ever done
5:35 awesome well yeah we haven't done many
5:39 ways
5:43 we have done a few i guess if we like throw shirts out
5:46 yeah actually okay i have done clothing giveaways i've um
5:50 i have actually thrown shirts at events yeah yeah mainly the paintball one yeah
5:55 yeah and and at ncix events oh i've i've
5:58 thrown many shirts actually okay so okay that is potentially not the biggest
6:03 clothing giveaway i have purchased no i think it would i think it
6:07 still would be if you argue that a swag shirt is only worth the actual cost of
6:11 printing it and with the swag shirts like if you caught
6:14 four of them it's not
6:18 really yeah it's not a wardrobe no
6:21 unless your name is luke well yes but then i do have different ones of all
6:25 my swag shirts you would wear two of the same one
6:29 probably i do have two the same one they would both be in the rotation they are
6:33 you know the uh the the like teal blue twitch shirt yes i have two of those
6:38 okay i like that shirt that doesn't surprise you it's good i'm glad you have
6:41 two because you'd probably just wear it twice as often if you didn't have two
6:44 and then you'd smell all right let's uh get into our first uh
6:48 our first topic of the day so this was posted by tank slayer on the forum and
6:52 there's actually a lot of different sources for this one including talkandroid.com but that's the one we're
6:56 gonna fire up here excuse me it's actually x
7:00 tank slayer x yeah i don't care so so one plus
7:03 not solving issues with defective devices ignoring rma requests now the
7:09 article has been updated with oneplus statement that they are working on uh
7:14 growing their team and expanding their capacity for for customer service
7:19 related stuff but that doesn't change that some
7:23 of these testimonials are
7:26 pretty pretty condemning so know what they could do to completely solve this
7:30 problem they should just have their rma system
7:34 like a lottery so you get invites
7:38 to be able to rma your phone so like you you sign up on their website
7:43 oh wow you have to phone warranty lottery yeah so your
7:48 serial number just gets assigned an arbitrary warranty period so some people
7:53 get like a 10 year warranty on their phone and others get like 48 hours
7:57 and it just averages out to you could you advertise a one-year warranty on
8:02 your phone it's an average if it was an average warranty someone gets like a 100
8:07 year warranty and everyone else gets a couple hours and they just hope that that dude just throws the phone away
8:10 after a while yeah so it's no secret that we're not huge fans of the way
8:14 oneplus has conducted themselves since their inception uh not very long ago um
8:19 it's amazing how many people send me one
8:23 invites i have some people just email them to me without even asking if i want
8:27 them and i'm just like do you have any idea how many of these i've gotten if i
8:30 wanted a oneplus one i'd have bought one by now it's really not that hard to get
8:34 an invite if you really want one um especially especially now where they're
8:38 not only accepting invite um invite customers but they're even
8:43 opening it up for pre-orders from time to time whenever they do production runs
8:46 at the oppo factory so anyway what happened was i used her on reddit stated
8:50 that he was being helped to fix his audio issues and when a flash of his
8:54 phone did not help customer service apparently ignored his rma request and
8:57 after 11 days he posted his concerns on reddit so the statement from oneplus is
9:03 we prioritize the experience of our users above our else our team is growing rapidly to etc etc etc etc um if you
9:08 guys want to discuss this more actually the thread on Linus tech tips forum is
9:13 one of the more um i don't know just generally it's a
9:17 really really good it's a really good thread people being very respectful having
9:21 balanced discussion bringing lots of fat look at look at look at ghost he's all
9:26 on top of it it's awesome it's a bot yeah look bought
9:30 how does that work so when you post something specifically when your account
9:34 posts something and then it has http colon slash slash in it that bot will
9:38 just nuke how do i not know about these things
9:41 because ghost is awesome because like i i've been spamming it and you guys
9:46 didn't tell me well it's fairly new
9:49 yeah ghost got really tired of me not instigating like an actual chatbot
9:54 so he was like i'ma just make my own so he did good job
9:59 you are the man and like the best part is that i'm not
10:03 gonna go over like all the different things that it does but certain things that it does are drastically better than
10:08 all the free bots out there and are like reasons why i've been holding off
10:11 because i'm like oh they just suck right so yeah he solved those two cool kind of
10:15 great all right let's move into our next topic well this is cool that me this
10:19 means there's actually a point in me posting things like the source links for
10:22 the stuff that we're about to talk about oh and it didn't it doesn't have an http cool inside it does that
10:27 it does it does bowls well all right it didn't work that time ghost you are
10:33 hereby no it did something else you are hereby uh deducted one internet cookie
10:37 but it's okay because you earned six interesting pieces this is the last thing you did
10:41 all right so this is key size kiss
10:46 this was posted by dismo on the forum i'm gonna go ahead and pop this up on my
10:51 screen here anyway i'm sorry why does it have a cooldown
10:56 you can only do it once every 90 seconds oh all right then um oh it's probably so
11:00 if you spam the crap out of it probably to keep me from getting banned there we
11:03 go okay banning myself all right so this
11:06 i mean i think the headline is a little bit sensationalist um mr eric mcbride
11:12 over at Android authority i don't think that kiss connectivity will make chords
11:16 obsolete but i do
11:20 agree that i mean if kissing made chords obsolete
11:24 what would we need the internet for you could just kiss girls in real life
11:29 well i guess or boys yeah whichever anyway the point is that
11:34 this is we don't really have a ton of confirmation about exactly how the heck
11:39 it works but what they have said still wouldn't solve long-distance
11:43 relationships i'm sorry long distance okay the connectors used
11:47 in kiesa's wireless kiss connectivity are currently able to transfer up to six
11:51 gigs of data per second to put this in
11:55 perspective the latest wi-fi standard can handle up to 1.35 gigs a second and
11:59 that's very theoretical i've never seen it go anywhere near that fast and that's
12:04 using a bridge or like a like a media a media bridge
12:09 and a high-speed router as opposed to a router and then the kinds of weak sauce
12:14 clients that typically people are using so this they showed off transferring a
12:18 1080p movie file although we don't
12:21 actually have confirmation of the exact size of the file but i would guess it's
12:25 in the given that it did it in five seconds i would guess that it was in the
12:29 six gigs range but it could be anywhere from two and a half to twelve gigs um
12:34 and that would translate to 512 megabytes per second to 24.57 megabytes
12:38 per second which is just bananas did it hold on a
12:43 second no i did the math wrong there it should have been 10 seconds to be
12:46 whatever the speed i said was okay anyway somewhere between 512 megabytes
12:50 to 24.57 and it can only do it a couple of
12:53 millimeters away right now so we're not talking about like
12:58 you know i'm just like this and i'm like bippity boopy boop and it goes over to
13:02 his phone you know as fast as a usb 3
13:05 wired connection we're talking about more like an nfc touch style and like
13:10 make sure you get it aligned just right yeah kind of arrangement
13:13 the initial demo of the technology was by their ceo eric allmgren and they
13:18 claim that um
13:22 no i already said that so whoa no yeah it was touchscreen um so i i
13:27 don't know what else there's to really say about this other than the one big problem is that it doesn't
13:32 use any kind of existing technology like one of the ways that we've seen nfc file
13:36 transfers before in the past is things like and i'm holding up an iphone haha
13:40 nfc derp i can pay for things yeah thank you um so one of the ways we've seen nfc
13:46 file transfers implemented in the past is with an nfc handshake and then a
13:50 direct wi-fi connection for example whereas kiss connectivity is not going
13:56 to rely on any kind of existing connection it will need a dedicated chip
14:00 just for this although it looks like they're already in the process of
14:03 working with a couple of large oems um dell is probably going to be one of them
14:09 given that one of their devices was used for the demo and then samsung and Intel
14:13 are also investors so that's already some pretty heavyweight players
14:17 even if just samsung rolls it out that is a huge chunk of the smartphone market
14:22 that could be enabled with this technology i'd like to see it in palm rests of laptops yes did you read my
14:27 comment and steal it
14:32 that was that was going to be my whole thing that i was going to actually be able to talk about i put a i put an
14:36 additional bolt see i'm not going to put bullet points in
14:40 the dock anymore i put it in it goes Linus's thought integrated into laptops
14:45 question mark because you know what would be great integrated laptop you
14:48 know what congratulations for your good idea thank you you did good you were
14:52 insightful i was actually thinking about uh that i want to talk about this topic
14:56 next yes sure we can do that um i was actually thinking we might get more into
15:00 that on after party or okay you know what we can get more
15:03 into on after party sure let's do it during the show but maybe not quite next
15:07 sure um so so yeah integrated into laptops like right now one of the big
15:12 problems with phones that faster wireless connectivity could fix is that
15:16 you're either running around for a cable and using the old stupid traditional
15:21 folder-based file transfer technique or you're using something that's inherently
15:25 slow like you're backing up to dropbox herb derp i'm holding up an iphone again
15:30 uh excuse me i mean airdrop
15:33 to all of my other apple devices that i don't have all my friends who use apple
15:37 who actually don't to my iphone 4 that actually doesn't support airdrop
15:43 every time i'm like oh yeah i'll just use airdrop for this nope
15:46 nope not at all nope nope so um yeah i
15:50 guess that's pretty much it let's talk snapcash
15:54 this is interesting i did not see this one coming so
15:58 everyone knows what snapchat is you send picture messages to people in theory
16:02 they're deleted i had finger quotes
16:06 i had finger quotes i said in theory i think that pretty much covers so in
16:09 theory plus finger quotes means like totally not at all
16:14 we need a shirt that says that
16:18 totally not at all in quotes
16:21 um so snapcash uses square cash so if
16:25 you guys have heard of square um i actually signed up for square back when
16:29 they first started up basically it was just a little dongle that plugged into your phone so that you could so anyone
16:34 could accept credit card transactions with a very reasonable interchange fee
16:39 or or additional charge on top of it i actually i've never seen that in canada
16:43 but multiple places when i was going around europe was using square
16:47 so where cash is just more like uh more
16:51 more debit cardy okay so square square okay well hold on
16:54 hold on hold on square cash on its own is you just key in your debit card and
17:00 then it's more for like peer-to-peer transfers so you wouldn't expect to walk
17:03 into a restaurant and have them accept square cash and you just kind of go you
17:08 know bippity boopity in my app and you send it to to that person who then gets
17:11 a notification that um that they have been sent money
17:15 and they can accept it so that's more for like you know you're meeting with someone you know behind the alley to
17:20 trade computer parts
17:25 i mean i wouldn't use an electronic if i was buying drugs i wouldn't use anything
17:28 electronic but if you're buying computer hardware
17:31 it's all good can you not whatever you're about to say can you not silk
17:35 road what silk road okay okay i wouldn't use square i
17:39 wouldn't use my debit card can we say that much sure okay so square stores
17:44 your debit card information securely they say i don't haven't verified that
17:48 but they store it securely and then you can just use it so i've heard of people
17:52 using it for things like tip splitting when they're out for dinner it's like
17:56 hey i don't have any cash someone's got a credit card someone else
18:00 squares them some money awesome so okay so
18:03 all the credit card stuff is stored by square or snapchat not credit card yet
18:07 dedic okay all that information is stored by square or snapchat uh if you
18:10 use square cash square and i believe with snapchat it is going to be snapchat
18:15 but don't quote me on that one either there's not a ton of information about
18:19 this yet and honestly this is posted by king daddy daniel on the forum by the
18:23 way and i'll post the original article from techcrunch right here honestly um
18:28 the most information is in their hilarious video that has a bunch of
18:32 dancers running around and you know it's it's it's probably worth us just firing
18:36 up on the show because it's pretty funny what it's very
18:41 very over the top let's just go ahead and screen share here
18:44 okay
18:50 um oh that's weird
18:53 well i guess we don't get any audio but whatever he says buy this can you send
18:57 me some cash so the way it works is instead of relying on a dedicated
19:01 financial app you just use snapchat you type in a dollar amount and slow motion
19:06 for dramatic there you go the button turns green and you just send cash boom
19:09 just like that if the other person doesn't have it set up then it'll prompt
19:13 them to set it up oh my god and yeah so this is this is the
19:17 the video which is hilarious
19:21 um it involves a lot more dancing it it goes on for way too long it's over two
19:26 minutes long so this is going to be like the easiest way to steal money from
19:30 friends wow i see this end up i i see this end
19:33 up being terrible you always look at things from like this like dark dark but
19:37 you have people what evil people will do with it whereas i'm like you have to oh
19:41 this is such a cool way to be like you know bro here's 10 bucks for the lunch
19:46 you just got for me yeah bro at a frat party everyone passes out bro walks
19:50 around because he wasn't drinking and goes to everyone's phone and just snapchats himself hundreds of dollars
19:54 okay so the but okay let's let's let's do let's
19:58 do let's do benefits and drawbacks analysis okay so easy to steal yeah
20:03 extremely i would say benefit is if you do send someone out to buy something for
20:07 you you no longer need to give buddy your pin
20:11 or your credit card which is something that which is something oh come on you're going to use
20:15 paypal for that why not
20:19 why would they have paypal well everyone has paypal do they i don't
20:24 know anyone who doesn't have paypal my mom has it my grandpa has it i don't
20:27 think i have a personal paypal account really yeah
20:30 you're weird i have a company paypal account my wife has a paypal account i
20:33 do not have a paypal account what would i need it for
20:36 i don't know i'm not going to buy anything with paypal i get rewards on my credit card
20:42 and then merchants get to pay for it that's right best buy ceo man who hates
20:47 interchange fees that withdrawing money from your card into paypal still count
20:52 as so you'd still get rewards from your credit card
20:56 i can't remember i can't remember not anyway i have no
20:59 idea okay the point is if this is much faster it is much faster there okay so
21:05 and and and you say paypal but i know
21:10 that you've given me your debit card and told me your pin to go buy something for
21:13 you that's still easier than this no no no
21:17 no this looks legitimately pretty easy assume okay assume now that you're not
21:21 20 something and you're no the reason why you actually have snapchat but the
21:26 reason why this is not as easy as just giving you a debit card i don't do that
21:30 with everybody um god
21:33 it's because uh you don't you don't know what the
21:37 price is going to be so what like the guy like gets the store
21:41 rings to the whole transaction and then calls you and it's like hey they could
21:44 come back and be like yo dog it was 1862. and you could boop
21:48 me that much yeah i think it i think it's awesome i think the potential to
21:53 exploit it is definitely there i think that kids today need to learn to put
21:56 pins on their phones um that their friends don't know because the phone is
22:01 more and more and more tied into
22:05 so many things you can do i mean even apple's way of validating apple pay with
22:08 touch id i believe you can also enter a pin so if someone knows the pin of your
22:12 phone all of a sudden they can buy things which is a whole other ball of
22:16 wax compared to they can like text your friends and be like
22:20 no i'm ugly yeah yeah phone pranking post on facebook i
22:26 hacked your facebook nah yeah no
22:30 not so much all right so court rules this is posted um by tech
22:35 dreamer on the forum rules yeah court rules yeah if i fought that then i would
22:40 be alone excited me and lawyers so this was uh from this
22:44 is from engadget.com and of course i
22:48 don't have an http on that one boom engadgetgut.com
22:52 um originally posted by tech dreamer and
22:58 a u.s court ha in san francisco has ruled that due to the first amendment so
23:03 this is freedom of speech predominantly google can arrange and rearrange search
23:08 results any way it wants so this is um
23:12 this is from a complaint from a
23:15 they figured they were a competitor of one of google services that google was
23:19 intentionally down ranking them in google search results in order to drive
23:24 more exposure to their own services and
23:27 basically this ruling it doesn't it doesn't rule
23:31 out google being attacked for this in other regions or by other by other
23:36 companies but what it does do is it sets a precedent that google can now point to
23:40 and say well hey it was already ruled that we're allowed to arrange our search
23:44 results however we want so
23:47 yeah that's how like referencing different
23:50 chords enjoy that it'd be like google versus whoever um i
23:55 just honestly they were already doing it anyway yeah
23:59 even whether it was legal or not they were already doing it and they were going to do it forever i mean it is it
24:04 is no great secret that when google
24:08 launches some new service that everyone hates like google plus then all of a
24:12 sudden it's everywhere yeah duh
24:16 i don't know i i don't think it's that big of a deal um i think it sounds
24:21 a little bit scary but i don't think it's actually going to be they can't
24:24 abuse it any worse than they already are really because if they do people will
24:29 stop googling things when being the second there's no loyalty to a search
24:34 engine in particular the search engine things like their their applications
24:38 like their calendar or their email there's there's some loyalty there
24:42 because they've managed to drive us as a business to
24:46 give them a monthly payment in order to use these services because of how well
24:50 integrated they are but for especially something like using a search engine
24:54 which is what this complaint is about there is no loyalty if bing starts
24:59 returning better search results for me i will switch tomorrow i'd love to use
25:04 bing it's just useless i switched from alta vista to google that quickly
25:08 because alta vista stopped working and google started doing better
25:12 same thing with dog pile like those of you who are who've been using
25:16 the internet long enough to remember the pre-google days
25:19 there are other search engines it's just that they suck so if google
25:24 degrades the quality of their results by prioritizing their own crap aggressively
25:28 enough we'll just stop using it and they'll lose their primary source of
25:32 income so it's not going to happen i know ask.com is still a thing but like
25:35 not really and i remember ask jeeves yeah
25:39 was huge yeah i think i went uh altavis
25:43 to ask jeez google actually i think was was what i used alta vista used to be
25:47 awesome you could find everything there and then it just went to complete
25:52 garbage you know it is it is amazing how bad bing is yeah i know every time i
25:58 install a new Windows os i think i've told this story before every time i
26:01 install a new Windows os i have to use ie until i'm not lazy and i install some
26:06 other browser so i'll use ie and the default search engine will be bing
26:10 because i'm not going to go through all those other steps to manually change my
26:13 search engine and then it's kind of a pain to add it so i'm lazy um and i will
26:17 use bing until it infuriates me and it's usually gone within three searches
26:22 because it doesn't find anything it doesn't find it yeah i don't know and
26:25 like you search the exact name of a product
26:29 and it will find you everything else it possibly can yeah then you put that name
26:33 in google and the first result is the product page from that from the
26:36 manufacturer yeah what am i looking for like some obscure
26:40 reference to like it's coming out in six months from some message board from six
26:44 months ago no i wanna look at it um
26:47 new york this is the coolest thing ever what new york city is awesome to replace
26:52 public this was posted by the uncons it's whatever something um so the
26:56 original articles are from absolutely everywhere uh so the verge has got an
27:01 article uh techcrunch ars technica business
27:05 insider i'll post the verge one here because i'm apparently because that's the one i
27:10 copied although i'm still mad at them about that really stupid piece they did
27:13 on gamergate yeah um it was really stupid but like it was really stupid but
27:19 like basically everyone else is really stuff like that too that has talked about it that's true
27:24 everyone was stupid yes but the verges
27:27 was like late to the party and stupid so they didn't have the advantage of not
27:32 having everyone else's stupidity to look at and not follow them off the cliff
27:36 like a lemming so there you go yep this is going to be
27:39 called linknyc and they will be replacing 10 000 pay phones
27:45 who uses payphones with pylons towers posts capable of
27:49 providing free public wi-fi at gigabit speeds 24 7. there's also a charging
27:56 station for your mobile devices you can call any number domestically in the us
27:59 and it features a tablet-like interface that can service that can provide
28:03 services like directions it's awesome not paid for with taxpayer money instead
28:08 it is advertiser driven and the residential version will not have ads
28:12 the project is estimated to bring 500 million dollars of revenue into new york
28:16 city in its first 12 years and what a boon for the residents brilliant new
28:21 york city planners you guys are awesome your kids are awesome your dogs are
28:26 awesome and especially your ideas are awesome mainly your dogs are awesome
28:29 they wear rocket packs like they're super stoked when you come home that's
28:33 how forward thinking they are yeah
28:37 anyways uh i i was when you when you first said ads i i was working before
28:41 the show so i didn't have big billboards on the pylon yeah like that's cool i was like oh you're gonna
28:45 inject ads in my browser all the time it's gonna suck especially on mobile when you like can't see anything already
28:49 but then no that's fine if it's on the side of the thing like it's new york
28:53 city yeah stuff
28:56 everywhere i don't know if it's gonna really change much it's not confirmed
29:00 whether seamless hopping from pylon to pylon will be supported so you may have
29:04 to treat it kind of like um a phone booth you know where you actually kind
29:08 of have to stand next to it to make a call and then kind of boogie on to the
29:12 next place but the and one concern that i have is if you're if you're set up and
29:17 depending on the way the pylon works like even if you don't seamlessly roam
29:21 if you do if you do a connection hop at all
29:25 every mobile os actually i haven't tried blackberry you have so maybe you can
29:29 correct me on this in a long time um iOS and Android both of them handle
29:35 degraded wi-fi connections extremely poorly and they don't switch over to
29:41 mobile data nearly gracefully enough Windows phone does it incredibly well it
29:45 goes oh crap this is bad and switches
29:49 over to your mobile date mobile data connection so you hardly even notice when you're browsing but that's a big
29:53 issue when you're at the fringes of a wi-fi coverage zone so if you were
29:58 walking down the street doing something on your phone
30:03 then if you reach edges of these pylons all
30:06 the time and you're automatically jumping on them it could be very very
30:09 disruptive so that's just my one thought on it um
30:14 other than that it's it's amazing in every way have you have you used shotgun
30:18 wi-fi yeah i have it's surprisingly good yep and i wouldn't be surprised if it worked
30:22 something like that yeah so the way that works is the um the the internet
30:27 provider that i'm on just by being a customer they have wi-fi hotspots in all
30:31 kinds of places like they're all named the same thing and
30:34 they're all open so you automatically connect and then there's like a web sign
30:38 in thing but it's really good at remembering your account like really
30:41 really good so every single time that it detects this open network your phone
30:44 will connect to it and it signs in immediately and it's all fine yeah it's
30:47 super cool like even my um um
30:51 i don't know what are they what are they called baby doctor
30:54 uh whatever the family doctor for uh for my
30:57 wife's pregnancies like their waiting room has a has a shaw open hot spot
31:01 awesome yeah yeah i guess i won't be using my mobile data right now right
31:06 okay uh dell's up
31:09 2715k 5k monitor this was rumored to be
31:14 coming in at 2500 uh this was posted on the forum by big
31:18 streams by the way and the original article is from guru3d.com
31:23 but uh i think apple might have forced
31:27 dell's hand a little bit here i think dell was really hoping to have you know
31:32 um to resurrect the expensive monitor
31:35 business that has basically disappeared since 30-inch 2560 by 1600 monitors
31:42 can well those never came down in price but the 2560 by 1440 27 inch varieties
31:47 did and ever since that business kind of went away it looks like they were trying to resurrect this they wanted 2 500 for
31:52 a monitor and then apple turned around and [ __ ] slapped them by giving you a
31:56 fairly decent computer attached to that same panel in a beautiful enclosure for
32:02 thirty five hundred so
32:05 no brainer go for it and you could use that computer as a monitor right
32:10 no really the imac there's no functionality for that at all no um
32:14 older imacs yes they had some feature i forget what it's
32:17 called who cares it's some apple feature um but i wish they just had a display input
32:23 but this one uses um so and actually dell's implementation is very different
32:27 from apples we'll talk about that in a moment but the apple one uses a custom
32:32 wider like it's physically wider and has more pins it is a non-standard
32:37 displayport connector interesting that they worked with AMD on presumably uh
32:43 in order to drive that panel as a single tile display so what that means is
32:49 there is no input right that could drive it yeah
32:52 all right then yeah so i get it yeah and i understand that it is better to have a
32:57 single tile display so you don't see that weird tearing we have one dual tile
33:01 display in the office and it's not an ideal solution
33:05 um but dell's is gonna be a dual tile display so it'll use two displayport
33:10 inputs because displayport 1.3 isn't here yet and it'll have um okay here i guess i
33:16 might as well just do a general spec i don't know if i would move up yet then a
33:19 5120 by 2880 resolution with eight millisecond graded gray response times a
33:23 thousand to one contrast ratio 350
33:27 uh hold on what oh 178 178 viewing
33:30 angles so basically basically anywhere you would ever be looking at
33:34 the screen it's got a double anti-reflective coating to allow more light to pass through the glass in the
33:38 panel features an anti-smudge coating to help wipe away fingerprints uh 99 RGB
33:43 100 srgb color space and calibrated with
33:47 a delta color delta e of less than two
33:51 12-bit internal processing so it's a 12-bit lookup table and the panel is
33:54 10-bit so it would be potentially useful
33:58 for folks who use adobe applications on quadro or
34:01 um crap fire pro cards
34:04 um and they want to work in 10-bit color although the workflow is
34:09 still fairly broken and yeah
34:14 so yeah i guess there's not really much
34:17 else to say about it other than i don't think it makes a ton of sense i was
34:21 gonna say i don't i don't personally think it's ready i don't know if i would jump yet if i wanted a 5k monitor i
34:25 don't think this would be it if Windows
34:29 uh is able to start scaling better that's a big problem then this would be
34:34 actually i would see this as the way to go for
34:38 productivity applications versus media consumption because it is exactly four
34:44 times 2560 by 1440 so the scaling could
34:47 be relatively simple that's one of the reasons that it speculated that apple
34:51 went with 5k as opposed to 4k or ultra
34:55 hd excuse me for the imac retina
34:59 because really you didn't need to go 5k on that to make it retina like it's
35:04 overkill it's insanely sharp yeah um
35:07 but the flip side of that argument is that
35:11 5k is not going to be as good for content consumption because you are
35:17 going to get interpolation because you're going to be running any movie
35:21 content at a non-native res and there will be no 5k content anytime soon so
35:26 upscaling from 1080p to 4k has that advantage of being exactly four times
35:30 excuse me two times the resolution four times the pixel count um and then
35:35 scaling to 5k is just sort of sort of a random arbitrary amount more than that
35:40 so there you go i see 5k
35:45 as the creator resolution and i see 4k as the consumer resolution but we're a
35:50 long way away from either of them really being practical in Windows because of
35:54 the way that ui elements scale so poorly so so so poorly not good at all
36:00 and that was kind of uh almost like sad seeing you work on your
36:05 mac knowing that it's 5k and like it's fine
36:09 yeah i know right now it looks gross it does i'm like damn it like every single
36:13 time we hook up a 4k monitor to a computer i'm like this is unusable like
36:16 it looks so stupid and then you turn on the scaling and it's like
36:20 now just some things are unusual yeah yeah it's like this is still super
36:24 stupid what are you doing oh it's really frustrating oh
36:29 we've got scopopex on twitch chat saying
36:32 letterbox equals no weird
36:36 interpolation come on man you're gonna buy a 5k
36:39 monitor and then you're going to run black bars on all sides of your content
36:43 are you kidding me that's even worse
36:47 i would rather i would rather have approximations
36:52 than gigantic black bars all across all around the content
36:56 speaking of black bars all around the content this was originally posted by
37:00 sephiroth on the forum origin pc to sell
37:04 copy link url sorry i'm just copying the link for you guys i'm trying to make a better habit of this black bars better
37:09 job doing this they're going to be selling their millennium and genesis
37:13 cases stand alone this is something that
37:17 i i okay we asked for actually yeah lots of people asked for it because it's a
37:21 cool case so check this out guys um have you ever
37:25 called up a boutique pc builder and
37:28 asked them to buy their case because i have never called up a boutique pc
37:32 builder okay i did it once when um here i'm just gonna i'm just
37:37 gonna fire it up here alienware star wars
37:43 uh that's the drive cages on these cases are badass by the way
37:47 there we go this is this is the one
37:50 i called alienware and asked them if i could buy one
37:57 that was back when alienware's case was actually a reasonably
38:02 quote unquote cool design i was younger and vinyl wraps were not nearly as
38:07 common or as accessible and i thought this was a stunning piece of star wars
38:12 artwork that i would happily put my computer inside even though i had a
38:16 better actual case like a better designed
38:19 better laid out case at the time i thought that limited edition one
38:23 was worth it and i know a lot of people asked for voodoo pc to sell their
38:27 modified lien leak standalone it was a very beautiful case
38:30 but uh origins is is really cool as well so the neatest thing about them
38:35 is that and this is part of their five-year anniversary celebration the
38:39 neatest thing about them is that you can mount your motherboard in whatever
38:42 orientation you want so we'll go ahead and fire up their video here
38:49 this is such a slick video
38:55 they're just showing off yep
39:06 so right side up upside down facing up either which way whatever you
39:10 prefer and then their their drive drive mounting system is absolutely drive
39:15 cages are sick sick um they've got a they've got an add-on thing that you can
39:19 put underneath it so you can add more drive cages or more rads
39:23 really cool case and uh i don't know how much they're charging for it but 3.99
39:28 and 4.99 not sure if you want the or wait no no
39:32 399 and 449 there we go not cheap um not
39:36 out of the question either i believe the 449 one it says it's like the full tower
39:40 or whatever i think it's just the add-on on the bottom and the same case on top
39:44 yeah i'm pretty sure yep but yeah they're pretty sick i got to
39:48 see them at what was that e3 i think i first saw one back at um
39:54 ces that was when they launched it yeah yeah NVIDIA had it in their booth yeah and uh
40:00 yeah i thought it was pretty cool they're cool all right so why don't we actually do our why don't we do our
40:04 sponsors all right in a timely manner for a change last few
40:08 weeks i've like completely forgotten about it well that's 5.50 let's cover
40:12 our sponsors now yeah i guess we should probably actually
40:16 do that okay thank you uh so our first sponsor this week is
40:21 lynda.com you can have as much fun as she does learning online lynda.com is a
40:27 great way to pick up new skills whether it's photography video editing coding is
40:33 a really really big one over at lynda.com um
40:37 i say video editing already well you did now well video editing is
40:40 very close to my heart just because we've got now are we up to three people
40:44 here that have used lynda.com and learned skills that they now use
40:49 here and me and someone i thought it was uh was it berkeley maybe i think so i'll
40:54 okay i'll have to find out about that but anyway lynda.com really does teach
40:58 you things it's awesome so you sign up for courses you get this curated content
41:03 from industry experts there's new content being added all the time it's
41:07 inexpensive and you can learn completely at your own pace so if you kind of go
41:12 oh well i'm only gonna you know do like
41:15 one one video this week and maybe next week
41:19 i'll blow it off entirely but the week after that i'm going to cram like crazy
41:22 then it's basically like wow it's a subscription-based service ultimately
41:26 what do they care how much you use it use it however much you want or not
41:29 however much you want and that's totally cool why would you level up in real life
41:34 yes it's like wow except nothing like
41:38 well it's like wow and that you pay for it monthly everything else
41:43 is at your computer i guess there's that
41:46 yeah or your phone you could learn skills in wow that are transferable to
41:50 real life communication skills
41:53 yelling at people yelling at people is not a skill well
41:57 you want to be a drill sergeant yeah you'd be a raid leader then go to b yeah
42:00 but to be a drill sergeant you'd have to okay so you'd have to have like a like a
42:04 healthy balanced diet of wow and going to the
42:07 gym yes unlikely
42:10 but possible really you're going to be like that you're going to stereotype i said but possible all right so lynda.com
42:15 show for a free seven-day trial you can try it out if you like it then try it
42:19 out and if you don't like it then wait if you like it then try it out no if
42:22 you'd like it then you stay subscribed and if you don't like it then you don't
42:26 have to no you definitely you know how they go on like super long marches
42:30 sure yes oh wow treadmill under your
42:34 computer desk so you're on like a permanent march while playing wow so if you want to be a
42:38 drill sergeant you could be that dude that like runs in front of everyone and
42:42 is like look at me i'm faster than all of you all crazy endurance a treadmill
42:46 that makes you actually hike as far as you have to hike in that bloody game by
42:51 the time you got an epic mount
42:54 you'd be great if you mount up you have to run
42:57 like so if you if you get 100 speed mount you would have to run 100 faster
43:02 than you normally would be moving so if you get like a flying mount you're
43:05 just like full out sprinting so no one would even want mounts anymore the value
43:09 would plummet it would cause an economic crisis
43:13 more crap to why the walk button would be used so much
43:17 more because i wouldn't want to go slowly the whole game would come to a grinding
43:22 hole if you had like if you had like a noclip hack and you were just sitting
43:26 above the world you just see like these entire towns of people
43:30 walking like this that's the middle of a fight and it's
43:34 like i can't get away from this scorpion cuz i'm too tired don't stand in the
43:38 fire i'm too tired to move i have to stand in the fire heal me heal
43:44 me i'm just gonna i'm gonna stay right here in the middle of this area of
43:47 effect spell it'll be fine just deal with it
43:51 um okay so on to our next one we should
43:55 make that video game so it can fail oh kickstarter yeah
44:00 yeah okay so our next sponsor is 5'4 club and we are this is more of a
44:05 reminder than an announcement because we already announced this but they are
44:09 doing an epic giveaway they are giving
44:14 away retail price 72 hundred dollars or more in clothing
44:21 to one lucky winner and something i didn't even think of that you mentioned
44:25 offline last time is what a cool thing
44:28 for a college student yeah if you could like show up it's like your
44:33 first first year and you have five years
44:37 of 5'4 club membership so you can look like a boss
44:41 every day on campus always new threads and it doesn't cost you a dollar what a
44:46 freaking cool prize because i know there's a lot of different ways for companies to handle prizes like they
44:51 could do one month subscriptions for 60 people
44:55 and there's some benefit to that because you're you know getting you're giving a
44:59 little bit to a lot of people or you can put together like a super
45:02 awesome prize pack which is what they've done here that'll basically give someone
45:07 all the wardrobe they'll need realistically i mean if you're
45:10 subscribed to five four club for five years okay so the way the way it
45:13 works is you pay 60 bucks a month and they send you a retail value on their
45:17 site of 120 or more of clothing that
45:20 your personal style assistant picks out for you and then ships to you so that is
45:25 that is realistically kind of a couple shirts and like a bottom or sometimes
45:30 shoes or whatever else once a month
45:34 for five years you're gonna have so much clothing especially if you're in like
45:38 the college range where you're probably if you're not done growing you're
45:41 getting close to it so guys you head over to the bitly right
45:46 here bit lee slash ffc giveaway and once
45:49 you enter you can share it on social media each friend you refer gets you
45:53 three more entries the winning the entries close november 23rd so
45:57 that's in two days and the winning draw takes place november 25th i think it's a
46:02 super cool thing and don't worry guys if you don't win then you can still go
46:06 through the what was it one minute i can never remember how fast they say it's
46:10 really short really fast go through a survey wait a minute given your sizes
46:13 your style preferences and you can get hooked up and look good without ever
46:16 having to go to a store and feel like everyone is judging you whenever you try things on that aren't cool which is what
46:21 i do yeah this is what happens when we shop
46:25 for ourselves don't look like us
46:28 there you go problem solved oh geez okay so shall we tackle how
46:34 shall we tackle that big topic now which big topic the like our big topic our big
46:38 topic okay sure okay let's let's know how you want to do this but you go to
46:42 town okay so we recently launched our
46:46 our crowdfunding campaign we had talked about this online show before how we're
46:50 going to be moving into a new office and some people have been extremely
46:54 receptive and we've actually got over is that is that right
46:59 since we started the show it's gone up that much
47:02 well remember it's being manually updated right okay so it might even be
47:06 more than and that's the canadian value yeah that's fine i know yeah okay it'll
47:10 be a little bit more than that some of you have been have been awesome you've
47:13 been incredibly supportive um whether you've actually contributed the campaign
47:17 or not you've been supportive of the idea um some of you have raised some
47:22 objections to it raised some concerns voiced some concerns something some
47:26 objections there have been objections so what i said on twitter uh this morning
47:31 was that i would try to address what i thought were the most common objections
47:35 here on WAN Show today and then what we'll do is i'll commit to do a short
47:39 after party with you guys where we'll do some uh some twitter and twitch interactions
47:43 so you guys can let me know if there's anything that you're still concerned about so
47:48 question number one why don't you guys have lower contribution tiers like a
47:52 dollar the answer is right now everything is going through paypal and
47:55 for very small transactions their proportion of the payment is actually
48:00 much higher especially for something as small as a dollar so rather than
48:04 encouraging the members of our community who can least afford it the people who
48:07 can only afford to give a dollar to basically give money to paypal i would
48:12 just assume you guys keep it and support us in some other way by like say for
48:15 example watching videos you don't have to give us money yeah watching videos
48:19 describing liking disliking posting on a forum having a forum account
48:22 all of that is is more helpful than padding paypal's pockets as far as i'm
48:27 concerned um question number two your stretch targets are ridiculous why are
48:31 they so high the answer is you're right they were ridiculous they were much
48:35 higher than they should have been initially and a big part of the reason for that is we weren't really sure how
48:40 much momentum the campaign would have like we didn't know if it was going to
48:43 be overwhelming outpouring of support or if it was going to completely go nowhere
48:49 and we didn't want to trap ourselves by putting ourselves in a situation where
48:52 all of a sudden we've got to hit every stretch stretch target commitment in
48:57 like a week or something like that so now that we can see how things are
49:01 tracking we have completely rearranged the stretch targets to make
49:06 them much more realistic and much more attainable in fact the first one has
49:11 already been achieved we have finally fixed luke's twitter handle on the lan
49:16 show yes and it's possible that the second one has actually been achieved
49:20 already it's possible that more have been achieved there's a slight problem
49:24 thank you sorry i have to interject here for a little bit thank you mr wizard
49:27 there's like no way that anything would be even remotely running right now if it
49:31 wasn't for mr wizard like not even close so i just want to put that out there um
49:37 thanks mr wizard and the the problem
49:40 lord wizard from now on lord wizard uh
49:43 or the wizard the the problem is the call that we're making to get the amount
49:48 raised dollar value doesn't take into account uh money that is pending okay so
49:54 we can't get the actual value so we're currently hard coding that just so you
49:57 guys know like overnight or something if it doesn't move for a really long time
50:00 it's not it's not because we're not counting your donations it's because
50:04 gotta sleep for a little bit wake up and then we'll manually update it all right
50:08 question number three aren't you guys a business why aren't you seeking investment or taking out a loan the
50:13 answer is because some of you want to help us nope that's the wrong answer yes
50:17 we are business but those of you savvy enough to figure out these types of
50:20 business strategies should also be savvy enough to know that moving into a much
50:23 larger space is going to cost a lot more than 50 000
50:27 our goal for the campaign even in the short term so we're exploring every
50:30 avenue necessary to grow and keep delivering the best content we can
50:34 regardless of how much we raised during this campaign and then the question
50:38 number four then is sulim why are you asking for money at all and the answer
50:41 is because some of you want to help us in this way we've done campaigns like
50:45 this before with similar rewards things like badges on the forum and people have
50:50 said that they're happy to be able to contribute in this way in fact a lot of
50:53 people don't like the recurring contributor system that funds the forum
50:57 and prefer something that's a one-shot deal the last time we did this was over
51:02 a year ago so it's not like we're turning around and running a new
51:06 crowdfunding campaign every other month or anything like that it's something
51:10 that we have been asked for so for those people who do want to help us out like
51:14 this then we want to send our gratitude and to everyone else i mean we're still
51:18 grateful because every contribution even one view on a video counts the thing to
51:24 realize here is this is all optional we're not holding our content hostage
51:28 we're not saying we're gonna stop making
51:32 tech videos if we don't hit this goal nothing happens if we don't hit the goal
51:36 it's just if you guys want to contribute if you want to see some of the cool
51:40 stretch targets then go ahead and contribute to the campaign or don't it's
51:43 fine it's cool like we're still cool it's all good
51:46 um yeah travis just sent me fire in all capital
51:51 letters and i'm like what he's like things are on fire i know what you did
51:55 you announced oh my god
51:58 um so next question is why do you guys have any cool physical rewards and this
52:03 actually ties into the last one we're asking for money so we can move
52:07 into a bigger space hire more people and make better content not so we can sell
52:12 you a bunch of stickers t-shirts and hats if you want to contribute to Linus
52:15 media group by buying a t-shirt then go buy a t-shirt we have t-shirts
52:19 we don't need to do a campaign for that um so on both of our
52:23 web shops we have a variety of different shirts the usual complaint about the web
52:27 shops when people say well i'd like to buy a t-shirt except is omg the shipping
52:32 is so expensive to which i'd reply well then i guess you figured out why
52:35 physical merchandise would basically kill any possibility
52:39 from this campaign of this campaign funding a move the cost doesn't go away
52:44 because it's a special crowdfunding t-shirt so out of that let's say a 25
52:48 reward tier i'd say is pretty typical for a t-shirt actually on the high end
52:51 we'd still be paying eight dollars a shirt because we do all of our shirts on american apparel and up to another 13
52:58 more for international shipping and we're in canada so we don't even get
53:01 cheap domestic shipping to the us and people were people were wondering
53:04 too about like like science stuff that's even way worse because we'd have to give
53:08 it get it shipped over the border to us and then back over the border somewhere
53:12 we actually wanted i mean and these are it's not like these aren't ideas we've
53:15 had we wanted to do signed posters um we had them printed they're here but the
53:20 problem is that the design didn't end up looking good at all so we canned it but
53:24 it is something that we do plan to do at some point it's just when we're doing a
53:29 physical merchandise thing we we don't plan the idea of this is for us to be
53:35 funding making better and more content for you guys not to fund us sitting in
53:39 the new office um you know packing boxes
53:42 to ship t-shirts all over the world or whatever else and yes that's a bit of an
53:46 exaggeration because you could get a service to do that but then again you're spending even more of the money on
53:50 having a service take care of it for you yeah um which leads us to the last
53:55 question i don't want to contribute because investing in a company without
53:58 any roi is stupid i want to be a stakeholder to which i would reply we
54:02 don't want stakeholders and i suspect neither do the people who are
54:06 contributing to the new office expansion the closest thing that we actually have
54:09 to direct backers for our company if we had stakeholders and all of a sudden
54:13 there might be pressure to start paying dividends instead of using that money on
54:17 responsible things like new gear and sets and employees uh we'd be
54:22 potentially accountable for the kind of content we're making to some random that
54:26 the community has never even met um people are contributing the ones that
54:29 are contributing because they want me in charge not some shadow lurking in the
54:34 background potentially pulling strings so we've stayed away from investment
54:38 other than this crazy person investing everything um because it is a scary
54:43 concept of other people having control over the company so we're not really
54:46 interested in that and i can't emphasize that enough by the way here's the link
54:50 to the to the campaign um i can't emphasize enough
54:54 that just because we're crowdfunding this
54:58 doesn't mean that i'm not personally invested and that we're not reinvesting
55:02 the company's profits into it it's not like i mean you guys i think
55:07 see that you know it's not like i actually
55:10 drive a lambo i i don't actually just
55:13 blow all my money on frivolous crap like we're trying to do something here we're
55:17 trying to make more and better content all the time and i hope you guys do
55:20 genuinely see that um and right now
55:24 being in a kitchen is just not the right way for us to to move forward
55:28 with this so so that's where we're at
55:32 yeah i just yeah i have to give a shout out again to mr
55:36 wizard for being awesome we were both up to ridiculous hours of the morning last
55:41 morning this morning last night this morning anyways um he had like three
55:45 hours of sleep before he went to work and i think he's at work right now so hi mr wizard you're probably not watching
55:50 because you're probably busy working um but yeah so anyway we uh we made the the
55:55 big the big thing here is i think we we made the reward tiers a lot more fun
56:01 super fun and a lot more attainable so we're like 400 bucks away from releasing
56:05 the original stormtrooper rap audio something that a lot of people asked for
56:09 and i said would never happen but luke and nick insisted
56:12 uh WAN Show made up as girls comes another three thousand after that uh
56:16 luke does a Linus tech tips video under fire i'm actually so excited so we get
56:20 to throw stuff at him the entire time he's filming
56:23 Linus does the Linus tech tips video in upper body paint that the entire rest of
56:27 the company gets to draw on him and design um Channel Super Fun comes 22 uh
56:32 2200 or 2500 after that and is going to
56:36 be our video where luke and i each get the remotes for shot callers that each
56:40 other wears for an entire day so it's going to be the most aggressive day or
56:44 the like most kind and polite day yeah
56:47 ever really not sure which way it's going to go with that but basically
56:52 we think we fixed it i'll stick around for after party and i'll talk with you
56:55 guys if you still have some concerns and let's go from there but for now i think
56:58 we've spent enough time during and let's move on to
57:05 oh oh balls oh um uh awkward
57:10 uh yeah there we go let's move on to keep on digging our
57:16 ubisoft segment of the week ubisoft room
57:21 actually oh no that one's that one's good i'm actually gonna move that lower
57:24 third when i talk about the next one this is updated in real time okay cool
57:28 in real time now like it's like oh just now yeah oh okay so we're like 150 bucks
57:32 away from stormtrooper in real wizard time and yes we're like 150 bucks away
57:36 from stormtrooper all right so ubisoft says they will improve assassin's creed
57:41 unity performance they still don't seem to be actually acknowledging what the
57:46 problems were this was originally posted by that cool blue kid on the forum and
57:50 the original articles are from assassinscreed.ub.com and kitguru.net
57:54 i think i'm going to go with the kit guru link for you guys since uh
57:59 since it's not necessary not a uv page
58:05 basically they plan the following revisions streamlining some technical
58:09 aspects of navigation so they've this is
58:12 really funny i love the way they word this we've fixed a number of edge cases
58:16 with our detection system to smooth certain behaviors during parkour we've
58:20 fixed a few objects which were improperly tagged to smooth navigation
58:27 okay because that was the only problem people had with the game i guess and
58:30 edge cases no we're not talking edge cases guys we're talking performance
58:34 issues across the board all right next
58:37 up uncertain edge improved task of scheduling we've tuned the way the
58:42 computing tasks are prioritized and paralyzed by the processor cores to
58:47 improve frame rate in certain edge cases parallelized
58:52 okay and then tweaking performance for reach high points we've optimized the
58:56 reach high points during the camera swooping sequence to improve frame rate
58:59 a little bit and they're saying crowd size does not affect frame rate and is
59:04 not the issue i don't think anyone was saying crowd size with the issue because
59:09 honestly the models are not that detailed compared to
59:13 come on like anything i mean they're detailed compared to like
59:17 rome total war
59:21 but again i i can't say this enough you're losing to
59:24 freaking cod okay so the models aren't aren't that
59:27 detailed in the first place i mean but they in their own in their own
59:31 promotional materials and their own statements they're saying what was it
59:35 notre dame alone was how many polygons
59:38 yeah i don't remember it all but it was a crazy amount polygons
59:43 all the buildings are absolutely insane and that's where the
59:48 alleged rumored draw call bottleneck is
59:51 occurring not from on-screen characters
59:54 uh scaling notre dame i'm sure not on-screen characters aren't exactly easy
59:59 yeah but i can't imagine that reducing crowd size wouldn't help to say they
60:04 don't affect it is silly yeah but to to
60:07 to think that that's the problem yeah as i don't think correct either no
60:12 all right so uh it would be nice if they just had a slider where you could just
60:16 control crowd size so you're like hey done
60:19 that was it for keep on digging uh let's move into something ubisoft did that i
60:24 personally like ubisoft removes field of view controls
60:28 in some far cry 4 torrents i just thought that was funny this was posted
60:32 by in mcgorr on the forum and the original article we have here is from
60:36 gamespot.com so i'll go ahead and post that but certain far cry turrets contain
60:40 an error which removes the game's field of view controls alex hutchinson a
60:44 creative director at ubisoft montreal wrote on twitter pc players if you're
60:48 online complaining about the lack of fov control
60:51 you pirated the game uh in september electronics are
60:55 electronic arts placed a bug into pirated copies of sims 4 where the image
60:58 becomes increasingly pixelated this is not the first time we've seen a strategy
61:02 like this and personally i really i really like it because
61:07 i really liked the um what is it like game game
61:11 game creation simulator a game tycoon or something yeah but not everyone can like
61:15 include that game with their game or something like where the where the game you fail
61:20 and your company goes bankrupt because because of piracy yes that was the best
61:24 and like no i know and of course not everyone can do something like that i just thought that one was super good
61:28 what i like about this this strategy is how realistic it is
61:33 instead of going okay our drm is unbreakable
61:39 instead of even bothering to say that they just go okay we're gonna put drm in
61:44 we're gonna at least get around like and to to imagine that drm doesn't stop some
61:49 pirates is stupid it's stupid you're stupid go be stupid
61:53 somewhere else because drm does stop some pirates the problem is that it also
61:57 interferes with regular players and i think you could make arguments for it
62:01 getting being gotten rid of it all but this
62:04 is not a draconian drm scheme in and of
62:08 itself i'm not saying the game doesn't have drm so just hold just i'm just i'm
62:12 hold on i'm i'm trying to bring up a different thing the digging thumbnail is
62:16 coming back okay okay okay it's coming back for ubisoft but what i like about
62:23 little bugs like this is that they're realistic they accept that people are
62:28 going to pirate the game and what they do is instead of trying to stop them
62:33 brute force they create social pressure on pirates to shame them into not
62:39 pirating the game and the thing about putting in a bug like this especially
62:43 one that appears later on in the game is that you're not punishing the guys who
62:48 really did download it pirate it as a demo and then
62:52 buy it if they liked it to play it you are punishing the guys who didn't pay
62:56 for it and are playing through it you're punishing the people who actually did
63:02 enjoy it enough that they really want to keep playing it badly enough that they
63:07 really want that fov slider and you are making them come out and say
63:11 i'm using this i didn't pay for it and i'm going to go and be a customer about
63:15 it i'm gonna actually lodge a complaint i'm gonna actually
63:19 have this company spend money answering
63:23 my question when i didn't even have
63:26 when i didn't even have the respect to pay for the game right and i'm playing
63:29 it short so i like that yeah i think i think it's cool having
63:34 that little easter egg stuff by the way we just hit our uh rap goal thing
63:39 oh lordy so the release original stormstream rap audio is uh that goal
63:44 has been made um i have taryn working on
63:47 um updating the WAN Show soundcloud account
63:50 for an audio version of WAN Show right now so i figure we can release that on
63:55 that soundcloud account so i'll i'll tweet that out tonight i'm
63:58 going to see if i can do like playlists on soundcloud
64:02 because i wouldn't necessarily want that rap audio right in the middle because a
64:05 lot of people would listen you could release it on the forum yeah that would be dude why don't we
64:09 release it on the phone yeah um
64:12 i'll see if i can find it right now do you want to do you want to cover the the next ubisoft i put to keep on digging
64:17 sure i oh oh this isn't necessarily something else i just wanted to talk
64:20 about the the uh oh sorry this is your stuff never
64:23 mind okay yeah yeah oh
64:32 it's like a pretty much sure should i put the dirt back sure um okay it's like
64:37 in pretty much everyone that uses drm thing you are saying that to say that
64:41 drm doesn't stop some pirates is wrong that's false
64:44 you're right but you're not stopping
64:48 the people that are just downloading the game really because there's gonna be one
64:52 group of people that gets through and cracks it and makes it so it's just an
64:56 executable and then releases it so you'll stop a couple different teams
65:00 from getting it one will make through and it won't make any difference some
65:03 games are still more complicated than just running and executing not most anymore
65:08 that's true but some are especially
65:11 multiplayer games are quite a bit more complicated well in a lot of cases yeah
65:15 but then a lot of times they ignore the multiple game stuff like i don't know
65:19 how it works but i'm assuming right now with far cry 4 you don't get access to
65:22 the multiplayer part if you pirate it i would assume that i probably just get the single player part
65:27 um yeah the only time i've heard of like
65:30 cracked multiplayer stuff you play on your own private server
65:34 which is usually kind of lame i really didn't want to release this stupid rap
65:37 thing right uh and you know what i actually i think there's going to be
65:41 other stretch goals that you really don't necessarily want to do as well so
65:45 yeah i think you'll just have to get used to that one i think there's going to be
65:49 i'm it's pretty embarrassing um correct
65:53 well the reason why i didn't want it to be in that WAN Show soundcloud is
65:56 because you're listening to wancho and then all sudden it's like do you know
66:00 bleep about swag yeah blah blah blah terrible rap song pretty terrible i
66:05 really i really didn't want because the filter was what i kind of you guys are
66:09 taking away his auto tune what was what kind of made it okay for me
66:13 but now it's just pretty embarrassing so i'm i'm throwing i'm emailing myself the
66:17 uh the wave sound right now and then i'll i'll see if maybe we'll we'll play
66:22 it on after party yeah let's let's play it on after party
66:25 when we're doing the uh the q a and then we'll make it available for download on
66:28 the forum if you guys really want it
66:32 all right all right let's move into our next drm topic not related to ubisoft so
66:36 the keep on digging uh lower third can go away this was originally posted by
66:41 someone on the forum my browser is just where are we looking what is it it's
66:45 further down
66:50 there we go denuvo drm degrades ssds
66:53 this is supposed to buy ah ming on the forum and it's from gamemeg.ru
66:59 dot roo so games like lord of the fallen fifa 15
67:03 and unfortunately dragon age inquisition um are affected by this it's ea time
67:08 again yeah it's ea butter jelly time ea
67:12 butter jelly
67:19 um you know what's weird is i think that was probably more popular than the
67:24 badger badger song but i hear people reiterating badger
67:27 badger more than that that was early internet days like
67:31 it wasn't as good of a song no but you're better better so it's a lot more
67:35 catchy yeah anyway so it's not like it's gonna instantly
67:38 kill your SSD but users are reporting significant
67:44 increases in the rights on their ssds while running these games and it is
67:49 being attributed to the de nuvo drm
67:52 scheme up to around 30 gigabytes of data every 40 minutes in very small bits of
67:57 code that's insane now to be clear
68:01 ssds um are not as fragile as they used
68:04 to be and as a lot of people seem to think they are in fact tech report has
68:08 an excellent ongoing article i would like to find it to link it to you guys
68:12 right now but chrome completely crashed the greatness of the stormtrooper rap
68:18 crashed chrome so um
68:21 so i would i'd love to link that to you guys but uh basically they've taken i
68:25 think it was about a half a dozen consumer grade ssds and just put them on
68:29 a bench where they're being written to constantly and then monitored so every
68:33 once in a while they take them off the bench and see if they're still working and they all go way
68:38 past their rated write speeds which is already way more than most people are going to
68:43 write to it but 30 gigs per 40 minutes we can
68:46 extrapolate that to 45 gigs per hour for a game that you could potentially log a
68:52 hundred hours on game like dragon egg and aging position i logged a hundred
68:56 dollars easy on origin yeah
69:00 not origin i hate origin love origins
69:03 i don't know if it's gonna be quite as big of a game but it'll still be a very
69:07 expensive like it's going to take a while for sure
69:10 yeah um but that is still a completely unnecessary
69:15 thing to do that damages the computer hardware that the
69:19 game is installed on and i do not approve of that whatsoever that's so fun
69:24 all right what else we got here we got lots of great topics still this week
69:28 there's the wow thing there's the counter strike thing oh let's do the
69:32 counter strike thing okay how much do you know about this because this is very
69:35 much an in development story right now yeah so you guys will have to forgive us
69:39 if we're a little bit behind the eight ball or
69:42 forgive us if we're a little bit behind and take everything with a grain of salt
69:46 because a lot of this right now is kind of speculation speculation
69:50 it's speculation that's happening now yeah
69:54 there's definitely some weight behind the speculation yeah um but it's still a
69:59 lot of speculation now things that aren't speculation is that um two
70:03 players from top 20 global pro teams have been vac banned and i believe two
70:09 teams have been dropped out of the uh winter dreamhack tournament yeah so
70:13 we're talking a quarter million dollar prize
70:17 and they have been disqualified for players on their teams
70:22 and their teams have kicked those two players out of their respective teams at
70:26 this point in time um so they're not trying to back them up or fight it they
70:30 got kicked out yeah both players admitted to using uh to using an exploit
70:35 i'm gonna call it an exploit as opposed to uh let's just call it a cheat i guess
70:40 yeah yeah i mean the way that she was ex was
70:43 executed as you could call an exploit uh
70:46 theoretically theoretically this is all speculative but again it makes a ton
70:50 of sense on a lot of people this has been going around like through the grapevine for a while now that this
70:54 might have been happening so the fact that this is now
70:58 going on validates that a little bit but the idea
71:02 is that they were getting this uh hack
71:05 or cheat or whatever exploit whatever you want to call it through the uh what
71:09 is it called the steam workshop so even if you're at a quote unquote lan
71:14 event which is just where the other team you're playing against is also there and
71:18 your team is there you're not just on land you usually have an internet
71:21 connection because they're usually streamed um
71:24 even at a lan event where you're not using your own computer they would sign
71:28 into their own accounts because they want to show off their skins and stuff because it's cs go um and
71:34 then the steam workshop would automatically download it onto that
71:38 computer so you wouldn't see them like installing anything fishy it would just
71:42 happen automatically in the background um and the way it allegedly works it
71:47 could be it could be done very very subtly so
71:51 for example one of the ones i was talking to ed about earlier today was a
71:55 wall hack that all it would do was change the color of one pixel
72:00 when there is an opposing character on the other side of a surface so even
72:04 someone looking over your shoulder might kind of go
72:08 well and then and then move on because if they weren't aware of if they weren't
72:13 aware to look for something like that then how could they possibly know or
72:17 even stuff like um audio cues
72:21 like it could ping an audio cue if you're pointing at someone through a wall so if you do a sweep across a wall
72:26 it could ping at you if there's an if there's something there a lot of the guys wear earbuds yep there was uh
72:30 allegedly rumoredly speculatedly a panic
72:34 button uh one button sort of toggled aim assist all of this is unconfirmed by any
72:39 legitimate source it's based on code of the hack briefly posted to reddit um
72:44 there's speculation that there was so button toggle vision assist audio cued
72:48 vision assist and then button toggled aim assist where all allegedly within
72:53 this steam workshop allegedly downloaded
72:56 uh hacks so all of this is maybes both okay what's not maybes is both of the
73:02 players that were banned so cali spelled
73:05 k-q-l-y from titan and sf from epsilon
73:09 see these guys are from globally ninth-ranked teams and 19th ranked teams
73:14 overall have admitted to using them so
73:17 cali released a statement apologizing for the behavior and assuring everyone
73:20 that the cheating did not occur in a competitive setting and then epsilon uh
73:25 i think alleged uh admitted to using it once and also not in a competitive
73:30 setting although that looks like it's been pulled out of the dock since i was
73:33 reading it before the show so that might who knows everything is very much in
73:36 flux right now but the big discussion here is what do we compare this to
73:42 i mean i know no neither cheats were used in a competitive setting it just dropped down so what does it what does
73:46 it what does it mean for for csgo's credibility as an esport
73:52 it's rough that this made it through i know nick has been talking about like um
73:56 hellfire essentially like if this if this gets proven and if like certain
74:00 members not necessarily these two but certain very prominent members and he
74:03 has very good reasoning for all of this if they get brought out because there's
74:07 there's a list that the original guy that got banned posted yep trying to
74:11 take a bunch of other guys down with them where he said i think what he was in 95 he said he was 95 sure and
74:17 produced a list of other high-level pro players that he thought were cheating
74:22 using the same hack yeah so certain members on there specifically the
74:25 fanatic guys two of the fanatic guys if if they got called out for actually
74:30 doing this and they got vac banned it could cause some serious rifts i mean
74:34 pro cycling has not recovered from doping
74:37 yeah major league baseball is a joke
74:41 because of steroids yeah shooters
74:44 have always been a huge problem uh even on console there's hardware hacks you
74:49 can do to controllers uh try not allowing people to bring their
74:52 controllers to events no they want to use their scuff they want to use their whatever there's approved controllers
74:57 for events and you can bring your own and you can hardware hack it you take
75:01 the thing apart add in a little bit of the last one i saw was a pcb that you
75:06 added in which made it so that you could just hold the trigger down and it would
75:09 shoot a semi-automatic uh weapon as fast as it possibly could while keeping it
75:13 fairly accurate you just hold the trigger down and it does it properly for
75:17 you that's cheating super cheating and that's something you
75:21 can do on a console so there's this cheating and shooters cheating is huge
75:25 and it's super frustrating it's really annoying as a player just playing
75:29 randomly because it happens a lot in lobbies i know yeah i mean imagine if
75:33 this is happening professionally where people are actually looking over the
75:36 shoulder of the person what's going on with people in their bedrooms playing
75:41 the game where mom doesn't care if they're cheating at cs go and think
75:45 about the amount of people that are cheating that you're not catching
75:48 because they're being very subtle about it yeah compared to that dude that's
75:51 like flying around the map insta killing everyone which happened the first day i
75:55 tried to play cod which was hilarious um
76:00 his name was like 420 blaze at yolo and he killed everyone on the map instantly
76:03 and was just flying around i was like wow
76:07 you are everything that's wrong with this game
76:12 it was fantastic it happened on stream uh anyways like it's it's bad uh i don't
76:17 know it's gonna i don't know if it's necessarily going to be the hellfire
76:20 that a lot of people are going to be talking about where it's just going to destroy the entire sport because it is
76:24 actually really old people have been playing cs go for really long earth's
76:29 counter-strike competitively for a really long time not necessarily csgo i
76:32 know valve seems to think it's a big deal they're flying's cracking down like
76:35 crazy they're flying in four teams to replace the two teams that were
76:38 disqualified from dreamhack to do a like a local pre-qualifier which is sick
76:43 that's super cool i'm happy they're doing that um i i'm not saying choice
76:47 they have to salvage their tournament yeah i know it's true i'm not saying
76:50 it's not going to be a big deal i just don't think it's necessarily going to destroy the entire thing um i think it
76:55 could seriously uh hamper the massive
76:59 growth that they've had over the last little while and could seriously plateau
77:03 them for a long time but think about it a little bit the thing about
77:07 games that has to grow up is is both
77:11 sides the fans are already growing up in
77:14 the sense that they're treating it more seriously like oh yeah okay the thing
77:18 about this is they were talking about this on um that sports radio station
77:22 that i listen to all the time they were talking about it um
77:25 when they got acquired by tsn and some of those guys were xtsn guys
77:30 from back when tsm started and were now being brought back into the tsn fold so
77:35 they were kind of reminiscing about how 30 years ago everyone told them they
77:39 were idiots for thinking that you could have an entire channel dedicated just to
77:44 sports that's the stupidest thing i ever heard and then they're like yeah look at
77:48 it now yeah tsn one two three four
77:51 eight ruby platinum emeralds yeah like
77:56 so so the the but the thing about the thing about sports and esports do
78:02 get qualified as sports in this way i guess
78:06 okay they're not sports esports but they get treated the same way this way is that the fans are very passionate and
78:11 they take it very seriously and that's what esports is finally gaining they're
78:16 being taken seriously they're not a joke anymore
78:20 so you're gonna lose that reputation if people start hacking turning it into a
78:24 joke and not having the players and the
78:28 organizations treating it as seriously as the fans are is going to create a
78:32 rift between the fans and the players and the organizers and that is
78:38 really hard to fix and when you have this momentum right now i i think if
78:43 this goes as deep as the allegations
78:47 would suggest that they could i think it could affect not just csgo but esports
78:51 in general because you because you look at the general complaints that people might
78:56 have about an esport oh well it's just software
79:01 so how easy is it to to cheat how easy it is to pretend that these guys playing
79:06 are really that superhuman yeah apparently this easy how are we going to
79:10 take this seriously anymore at least with a physical sport yes
79:14 there's there's blood doping there's steroids there's this there's that
79:18 we can catch a lot of it and they are actually doing it on some
79:23 level there's no cybernetic implant that you know tells the goalie where to be so
79:28 when the puck's going to be there and whatever and they just can be there already
79:32 that's the difference between electronic cheating and physical cheating is it can
79:37 happen in ways that the viewer doesn't even
79:41 understand is happening and all the respect that they might have had for a player or a skill or a tactic i mean
79:48 it's just gone how deflating is that th this is actually a big part of the
79:52 reason why uh some of the viewers i know are gonna be
79:55 like what when i bring this up but i've a long time ago i played counter strike
80:00 at a fairly high level but i've never really been interested in watching
80:04 counter-strike and playing on public servers has always
80:08 been kind of rough because every single time that someone does
80:11 something amazing you're like hmm they're probably cheating they're
80:16 probably cheating or that was the luckiest thing ever and that's actually
80:20 one of the reasons i'm going to go on like an old counter-strike kind of binge here if you don't mind well how old are
80:24 we talking like 1.6 okay that's not that okay 1.6 1.5 like really you're going to
80:29 go back to one place five old stuff um
80:33 if you were running and or jumping or doing something crazy with an op there
80:37 was like the really weird really low percentage chance that you could shoot
80:41 yourself if you tried to shoot while you're doing that if you like jumped off
80:44 of something and took a shot it was a very low percentage chance but you could damage yourself
80:48 so like no one really did it now some guy will jump off a ledge and
80:53 like aim up here with a pistol and get a head shot over there and be like oh yeah
80:57 no man no no it's just randomly shot over there it's like no
81:01 one of the videos that they have of one of the guys that got banned he shot way
81:05 far away from someone and got a head shot and people were just missing it
81:08 like oh no it's probably just like bullet stray because he was jumping it's
81:11 like no he was hacking then brutal come on
81:15 ugh i don't know so there you go
81:19 i don't know um brutal we can do a few uh let's do a few rapid fire topics
81:25 oh this isn't really rapid fire oh we gotta talk about this bittorrent opens
81:28 pay gate premium bundles the original articles on techcrunch.com was posted by
81:32 tech dreamer on the forum this is freaking cool
81:36 i mean i don't think it's going to turn bittorrent into you know a legitimate
81:41 content distribution network overnight
81:44 but they're giving 90 percent of the
81:47 funds to the content creator and when we
81:50 compare that to other services that exist like if you were to say publicly
81:54 publish your song behind a pay wall so that means people that just means people
81:57 have to pay for the content okay so behind the paywall on itunes apple is
82:01 taking what 40 cents on the dollar
82:05 something along those lines yeah so this is fantastic for new artists using
82:09 bittorrent as a distribution platform so peer-to-peer not bittorrent like yar
82:14 bittorrent like peer-to-peer connections um and getting 90 of the money for
82:19 yourself that's fantastic that's actually pretty freaking awesome
82:23 i guess that's all there is to say about it yeah there's not a ton to really add
82:26 but i think it's awesome and i do really hope people start using it i expect kind
82:31 of smaller groups to start using it and hopefully there was like one or two
82:36 really big bands to just jump onto it because that will popularize it and then
82:40 it can grow from there because hopefully this becomes a big thing because that would be great you can uh and the
82:44 publisher has a lot of flexibility and i'd imagine they're gonna continue to
82:47 tweak it over time but you can have some content for free there can be some
82:52 behind a paywall you can have content move to paywall
82:56 after a certain number of visits for example that's cool
83:02 also unlike itunes you can potentially have access to your customer information
83:07 that's one of the big problems that i have with platforms like itunes and like
83:10 youtube um or even twitch to a much
83:13 lesser extent than than you actually know twitch is pretty much the same yeah
83:17 is you guys i don't know who you are
83:20 yeah i have no way to communicate with you uh that's not true with twitch okay
83:25 yes you have a list of all your subscribers youtube used to have that
83:28 youtube took it away so i didn't realize twitch still had it okay i don't know if
83:32 you okay i don't know how you list of all your subs
83:36 i don't know if you have a list of all your followers i it's very different
83:40 subs are paying right okay okay so
83:44 youtube used to give you an entire list of your subscribers and even though you
83:48 couldn't send a mass email to them say hey i'm moving over to vimeo can you
83:51 please make sure to subscribe to me over there because that would facilitate
83:54 moving off of the platform right um but what you could do is you could message
83:58 them one by one and in the even earlier days uh you could even see the list of
84:03 subscribers for someone else's youtube channel yeah so some douche canoe um who
84:09 was a competing tech youtuber at the time actually went through my entire sub
84:12 list and messaged every single one of them i got so many complaints about it
84:16 blah blah blah do you know what this guy is doing like no oh my gosh yeah go figure it's brutal um
84:22 so i understand reasons why this information isn't exposed and i know
84:26 that google has improved that recently through google plus
84:30 where you can access some of your most engaged viewers and all that but that's
84:35 the problem with these distribution networks is they
84:38 lock you in like this whereas if you own the relationship with your audience then
84:44 you can move wherever is best for you and or best for them as opposed to being
84:50 stuck where someone just wants to take a big cut of
84:53 the money for something they didn't even create and aren't even going to watch
84:57 yeah that's kind of ridiculous uh someone someone in the chat sorry i was
85:01 trying to watch the chat for someone to correct me apparently uh you do have a
85:04 followers list okay so you have a sub list and a followers list apparently
85:08 douche canoe is not a thing i've heard that really was it me
85:13 maybe that's possible
85:17 i remember it was it was a big thing my group of friends got called douche
85:21 carts when you're at pax and we were like wow that's amazing and we kind of
85:25 adopted that for a little while there are so many great topics left we have to
85:28 go really fast keystone cat posted this this is from mumbaimura.com electronics
85:33 printed with a t-shirt printer holy actual crap this combined with 3d
85:39 printing would literally mean printing your own
85:43 consumer electronics very simple ones yeah yeah i mean we're
85:48 talking like what were they saying they printed like a four-bit
85:52 um hold on it doesn't show it's not in
85:56 the notes it's in the article but but super super simple stuff but the
86:00 electronic circuits are printed using unique materials environmentally
86:03 friendly methods by the way on top of everyday flexible materials such as
86:07 plastic aluminum foil and even paper resistors transistors and capacitors the
86:13 key components of a complex electric circuit are printed using non-toxic
86:16 organic materials like silver nanoparticles carbon and plastics so a
86:20 new startup company is being established to commercialize the invention and a
86:23 multinational biomedical company has also expressed interest in adopting the
86:27 application of printed electronics for biomedical devices
86:30 wow super cool a big deal you just talked
86:34 really fast sorry you got it though thank you that was a good job
86:38 um so that's cool oh NVIDIA's multi-frame anti-aliasing is has finally
86:44 been tested so our good buddy ryan shrout over at pc perspective has taken
86:49 a pretty i'm not going to call it in depth ryan but i'll call it correct i'll
86:53 call it a pretty a pretty adequate look at mfaa now the problem with the way
86:58 most people are going to try and look at mfaa is they're going to try and take a
87:02 screenshot or a fraps recording that won't work because the way screenshots
87:07 and fraps recordings work is they take an image of the frame
87:12 that is being presented at an earlier stage than the actual display output now
87:16 the way a works is it actually blends the
87:20 anti-aliasing that it's applying in one matrix on the previous frame and in
87:25 another matrix on the next frame together on the frame that the viewer
87:30 sees okay so it it does 2x mf msaa effectively in
87:37 two different ways and then presents it to the viewer as forex
87:42 msaa but they're calling it mfaa because it's
87:46 not quite the same thing because it's using this blending technique so
87:50 instills okay right so the way you have to capture it is by actually capturing
87:54 the display output using a capture card something that pc per already does for
87:59 all of their graphics card benchmarking anyway
88:02 so they went ahead and did some captures and you guys should definitely check out
88:05 the article where you can have a much better look at what they look like than
88:09 this you know compressed video view here but it looks pretty darn good in
88:14 relatively non-complex scenarios it
88:18 looks a lot closer to mf to 4x msaa than
88:22 to 2x msaa and the performance hit is
88:25 not as much as 4x msia in more complex scenes so there was one
88:30 from i think crisis 3 that ryan was looking at it didn't look as good as 4x
88:36 msaa but still better than 2x and the
88:39 performance hit is less so NVIDIA's technology looks like a winner
88:44 except right now it's only compatible with 20
88:47 games now so it's a white listed game support as
88:51 opposed to blacklisting the ones that don't work so it looks like NVIDIA is
88:55 going through and specifically validating games
88:59 once they add it to GeForce experience so it turns on and off automatically i
89:02 guess this is less of a concern but right now it just doesn't give you any
89:06 warning whatsoever if you launch a game and and it says and it doesn't come up
89:11 and say hey by the way your mfaa isn't working there's going to be more of a performance hit you might want to tweak
89:15 your settings so it just happens in the background on
89:18 whitelisted games and we have no idea what support's going to look like moving
89:21 forward there is no sli support yet so only single card support
89:26 um but it's working for now
89:30 for now in certain things
89:34 um Intel revealed it will offer ssds based
89:38 on 3d nand this was posted by qwerty warrior on the forum the original
89:42 article is from tech report look at that we're posting all the articles from our
89:45 buddies in the last couple of minutes here we got scott from tech report ryan
89:49 from pc well mind you ryan's not my buddy i kind of hate that guy but whoa
89:53 even more shots fired yeah i'm just kidding ryan if you're watching this i
89:57 know you're not you don't watch cool programming like
90:00 WAN Show too busy watching the pc per podcast oh
90:05 there's too many p's in that that's why it'll never succeed well triple wrecked
90:09 i guess all right so Intel 3d9 Intel revealed it
90:12 will offer ssds in the second half of next year based on 3d nand it is a
90:16 result of Intel's joint flash venture with micron it stacks 32 planar levels
90:21 uh to deliver 256 gigabit so 32 gigabytes of storage in a single mlc die
90:27 and the 3dn can also be packed with three bits for cell percel to hit up to
90:31 300 and
90:35 gigabit or 48 gigabytes per die the 3d
90:39 end will enable 10 gig ssds within the next couple of uh
90:44 i'm sorry 10 terabytes yeah that's what i meant to say thank you 10 terabyte SSD
90:49 yeah 10 gig ssds would be less impressive i again like i said i was
90:53 working before the shows i didn't get to see a lot of the docs so when you first
90:56 said this i was like yeah not surprising but it's cool to be able
90:59 to see some like the specs and the time frame i don't think costs are gonna you
91:03 know plummet immediately you know you look at
91:06 samsung they've got 3d nand the actual cost per Gigabyte right now is not that
91:11 much lower but give it a little bit of time and
91:14 we could see ssds much more competitive with hard drives
91:18 would be awesome so remember guys the benefits of 3d nand are that they don't
91:22 have to use quite the same crazy advanced process node technology so they
91:27 can actually use less sophisticated fabs potentially um also better reliability
91:33 because they're using larger processes better speed because of using a larger
91:37 manufacturing process so cool stuff all
91:40 uh round everyone in the chat was all like oh my god 10k guys last day
91:46 not yet not yet sorry guys i got everyone's panties all wet and i'm
91:51 not even going to do anything about it all right new york times square
91:57 new times square digital billboard is
92:00 100 meters across and eight stories tall has 24 million pixels and is powered by
92:06 three AMD fire pro w9000 gpus this is posted on fireuser.com
92:12 and are posted on the forum by ah ming and the original article is from
92:16 fireuser.com i'm gonna go ahead and post that in here you guys
92:20 wow today i posted all the links in the chat but i completely forgot about just
92:26 bringing stuff up on my screen and screen sharing
92:29 so it's like one of these days i'm going to learn to do both
92:33 so here's the article from fireuser.com it looks amazing
92:37 24 megapixels this is the highest resolution display in the world i
92:40 believe that's actually right now yeah three that's such a beast machine
92:46 it'll be really exciting to see the massive
92:49 error message before that happens actually there might be higher resolution displays but certainly
92:53 nothing this big yeah yeah and that page isn't loading anyway so apparently it
92:57 was never met so like when the page can't load on that screen it'll just be
93:01 freaking huge that's my favorite thing you guys probably all hit that page
93:06 whoa that's why i can't load correct that's actually probably it i i love
93:11 seeing error messages on public machines i don't know why whenever you see like i
93:15 remember when i used to go to bcit they'd had these like tall very tall
93:20 like uh landscape
93:24 why am i thinking this portrait portrait yeah portrait i don't know why i
93:28 couldn't think of that properly i have a landscape that's kind of this way yeah
93:31 just hold your head like this it could be like if there's mountains on
93:36 each side and you're looking in between them anyways don't worry about it um
93:40 yeah portrait mode monitors that would like show you a map of the school and
93:43 stuff and when they blue screened it was hilarious this is a giant super tall
93:48 portrait blue screen it's like oh thank you
93:52 awesome super helpful speaking of super
93:55 tall our last topic and this actually is a legitimate segue um is iso i always
94:01 say it wrong i always say it iso that's how it's pronounced in english if i look
94:04 at it phonetically i think there's a different way of saying it um
94:07 has revealed a new monitor with a one to one aspect ratio
94:11 1920 by 1920 resolution
94:15 26 and a half inches and they're saying sort of the sales pitch here this is a
94:19 professional oriented monitor it's convenient for longer content
94:26 allows for a compromise between vertical and horizontal monitors
94:32 that it does uses an anti-glare ips panel professional glitterate monitor
94:36 don't expect it to be cheap available q1 2015 and the least innovative thing ever
94:41 because we already had we already had five to four monitors 100
94:45 bazillion years ago and everyone was like nah let's go widescreen
94:50 so now it's an innovation to make it even more square than before that's
94:54 super weird i don't think this is really gonna work out for them super well well
94:59 remember they they're relatively low volume they're aiming at like
95:03 professional applications where yeah the picture of it is like super goofball
95:09 and it looks super old too yeah it's it's pretty silly looking here i'll
95:14 screen share with you guys so this is the flex scan ev2730q
95:20 oh apparently i'm on the wrong page there
95:24 we go looks a little something like that like it actually just it looks just
95:27 wrong yeah right 220 pixels by 1920 it it's funny
95:32 because you've never seen a square monitor before probably so like looking
95:36 at one looks unnatural and yeah weird it's like there's something wrong with
95:40 it so 78 more pixels compared to full hd
95:45 cool man can i just have widescreen please
95:50 you know it's funny cause
95:54 like i was never much of an advocate for widescreen at the beginning
95:59 uh when the affordable ones were 1440 by 900 and we didn't have enough vertical
96:03 pixels but then that problem goes away as soon as you have enough vertical
96:07 pixels on a Windows machine where scaling doesn't really work so you just
96:11 actually need more pixels to fit enough stuff on the screen
96:14 um but as soon as that happened as soon as we got 1200 vertical pixels i was totally cool
96:18 with widescreen then we moved to 16x9
96:22 and then we didn't have enough vertical pixels again and now to compensate we're
96:26 going all the way back to one to one apparently sixteen by ten is still a
96:30 great aspect i love sixteen by ten and i wish that there were more monitors me
96:33 too huge fan of sixteen by ten that's kind
96:36 of sad which is i guess all there is really to the lamb show today isn't it
96:40 yeah there's a few other things but i don't know if they're super important
96:44 you can do it if you want do what i don't know other things you think are
96:47 important no i said i don't know if there's that hydrogen car that's coming
96:50 that sounds super ball and cool yeah
96:54 i i'm still more excited about oh yeah elon musk is still worried about
96:58 terminator yeah yeah ai and badness i think he's talked about that before yeah
97:03 we've talked about him talking about yeah
97:06 okay continuing his conversation well on that high energy note
97:10 yeah thanks for watching the land show we'll
97:13 see you guys again next week same bad time same bat channel we'll do that in the after party for more talk about the
97:17 fundraiser right now let's do it yeah
97:21 thank you energy five ford
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