Nvidia and AMD are FRIENDS NOW! - WAN Show August 11, 2017

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0:02 boom we are live baby
0:06 oh man it has been
0:10 a pret i think calling it a rough week would be
0:14 a gross understatement like disgusting understatement it has
0:19 been so tiring like shot
0:23 three ltts shot and reviewed three faps
0:30 and also moved into a new office space
0:35 went to the strata meeting for our building complex here
0:40 dealt with the inspector failing us oh
0:43 also by the way i found out we are going to have to clear the path to at least
0:48 one of the rear doors that are now covered behind sets
0:52 uh do i need to go on like can i just
0:55 you know go off for a bit here about how this week went because i want to know more
1:00 about the doors we have had all hands on deck basically reorganizing this entire
1:06 place for three days and with all the stuff
1:10 that people had to do and just with all the stuff that needed to be done
1:15 it has been a nightmare like if you guys have seen any behind the scenes footage
1:19 we're gonna have a whole organization vlog series coming because that's the
1:24 only way that we can get around to cleaning stuff up is by vlogging about
1:28 it but like that unit on the other side of this wall
1:33 that i'm pointing at right there that wall the brown wall
1:37 the unit on the other side there total disaster if you were ever wondering what
1:42 happens when you tell a dozen people um hey there's an empty unit so like if
1:48 there's any overflow it goes in there if you're ever wondering what that looks
1:52 like after six months boy do i ever have
1:55 the answer for you a little something like that by the way
1:59 Colton that um that crate that you just saw that is leftover slash x when show
2:05 stuff and then that antec lan boy is the
2:08 recreation of Linus's first pc so that could be like a charity auction thing
2:13 for ltx next year or something i don't know what else we would do with it
2:16 so like oh man and like the kind of crap
2:21 that we're cleaning up like we're talking the rotted out husks of
2:26 old crts and like i thought you meant literally rotting i was like oh no no
2:31 but like dangerous yeah and like furniture that we haven't used in months
2:37 like the uh the the couch that used to be on the LTT set that just went to unit
2:42 101. oh this was a good one this was a really good one so you know those old
2:46 shelves we had back at the langley place in the background yes okay the that on
2:51 that was like the old a-roll when we were shooting in the dining room yeah
2:54 the like wood colored ones yeah the wood colored ones okay so all the shelves for them were in a
2:59 scrap wood bin and then those with just the mid shelves
3:05 had just like a plank across them and were being used as like a warehouse rack
3:11 and i'm kind of sitting here going you know we actually have
3:16 scattered around the two warehouses many many pieces of warehouse racks that
3:22 could have been assembled to make a warehouse rack but like to be clear i
3:25 understand why people are doing these things a lot of the time because they
3:29 don't have time to solve the problem properly and we're like constantly
3:34 working at a frantic pace around here like i get it
3:38 that just doesn't make it not frustrating
3:42 and yeah so lots of people moved locations
3:46 brandon and max are in the camera den now uh luke has his own office how's
3:50 your office baby it's co i stole two of the bean bag chairs yes all that so i
3:53 will have the comfiest meetings ever with my employees that aren't we
3:57 will have the comfiest meetings my friends call me they were like dude you
4:01 have the comfiest meetings uh yeah i know it's it's it's weird it's
4:05 very weird because i've been with john for like two years
4:08 actually slightly more than that because in the previous office i was also with john so you upgraded your workspace
4:13 because you have an office with a door but you downgraded your neighbor
4:17 yeah and i because i don't have one anymore and i'm massive
4:22 right now but he's not like he has to sit next to nick
4:25 but there's like a big wall and stuff like john and i had a communal space and
4:29 now like uh i got brandon's old desk yeah so my actual usable desk space
4:34 probably went down yeah actually like 30 something percent yeah
4:38 like it's actually a very i used to have all three of my monitors and quite a bit
4:42 of usable space now i have all three of my monitors and that's where the desk
4:45 ends maybe i was sending a message of what about all the [ __ ] that you
4:50 don't need to keep on your desk anymore i'm probably gonna get another desk
4:55 mostly because uh i want more monitors though dang it
4:59 i'm going to put monitors there i'm probably going to go like i was going to
5:03 win that one off craigslist for like 25 bucks each because i just need junko
5:07 crappy monitors to do like server monitoring right i don't need nice ones
5:11 you know what we could probably figure out is like we have uh an ifinity stand
5:15 that i don't think anyone knows what to do with like maybe we could anyway that would
5:19 you know what right before you do furniture for your office um you're
5:24 gonna want to oh wow that looks really different but
5:27 it doesn't anyway we'll solve that later we oh yeah we moved the lan show yeah
5:31 sort of yeah so it's like 10 feet back
5:34 from where it was where the camera is now is essentially where the desk was
5:37 more or less before frankly i don't think it makes a huge
5:41 difference to the quality of the show i mean this show wasn't great quality
5:44 anyway and i think it's gonna be a lot easier for people to move around because
5:48 now it's not like right in the middle of a high traffic area so this is
5:51 interesting you didn't know this oh sorry before no before you do furniture
5:55 stuff in there um check with Yvonne because like there will probably be like
5:58 a plan already okay and like we might be able to get you like some shelving i'm
6:02 not even super worried about it yeah like we'll deal with it but um the
6:06 hexagon like a little notepad of the things that i like want the hexagon wall
6:11 from the spaceship
6:15 so the plan is to just lift that up you know the RGB wall yes okay i think
6:19 that's just going to go like right here oh that's cool yeah yeah because the
6:22 spaceship is dumb and needs to go away getting rid of that yeah we're getting
6:25 rid of the spaceship and we're just turning that whole area into like a condo
6:29 but that's actually yeah coming back to the final inspection
6:33 so the theory was that the inspector
6:36 would come in and look only at the new tenant improvement and that was actually
6:42 why we built the new tenant improvement like
6:46 a half a centimeter away from the old one so that it would actually be a
6:50 completely separate structure so the inspector will not come look at
6:55 our old tenant improvement because if they did that then any code changes in
7:00 the last two and a half years would have to be retrofitted to that one you don't
7:04 want that that's a big problem yeah okay
7:07 so it turns out they also want to look at the warehouse space because that's
7:12 under the new tenant improvement so that needs three exits to the outside
7:17 and i thought that those two front doors would still count but technically one of
7:23 those front doors which is now enclosed and is a dedicated exit for the new
7:26 improvement because it needs dedicated exits because it's not actually technically part of the old improvement
7:31 that doesn't count for the warehouse even though
7:35 assuming that the employees of Linus media group are not a bunch of raving
7:39 idiots um i'm sure people would be able to figure out to open one more door to
7:43 get to the outside and there are already two exits but we
7:47 need three so those ones are technically
7:51 sort of obstructed right now well that one definitely is well i'm the
7:56 one behind where the the long-term dust project that one definitely is too so
8:01 there's one here one there we only have two
8:05 so the good news is that we were planning to
8:09 rearrange some stuff anyway that way um
8:13 so workshop is maybe going there but then maybe also staying here because
8:17 like it's pretty i like this set it's the one that i still really like yeah um
8:21 but the green screen is going to shrink and then the condos are going to move
8:26 this way but then what we could do is we could maybe come get our final inspection
8:31 while that stuff's kind of torn down and in
8:35 flux and then maybe the inspector could
8:39 gtf out of here and then if there ever was a fire there
8:43 would actually be two full exits for the maximum like five people that are ever
8:48 in the warehouse no there would definitely be three three full exits people for the five x's
8:55 five exits yeah many all the exits
9:00 we have the best exits make america pay for the exit
9:05 um those jokes like just never get old i
9:09 know right it's like we haven't introduced the show yet oh
9:14 right yeah did anything else crazy happen this week we just finished the inspector part
9:18 anything else crazy oh man i don't know all the things like it was
9:22 like archaeology town around here man like honestly organization vlog could be
9:27 as much fun as moving vlog because even
9:30 though we didn't no i don't i don't know yeah yeah
9:34 someone broke into my van and so now we're talking about it yeah
9:39 no i'm not gonna go not to like specific bits yeah um
9:42 but like i was a really loud train honestly we've actually here wrap your
9:47 brain around this okay i'm about to blow your mind all right we've been in here
9:52 longer than we were in the langley house no i know i had that realization i
9:56 walked out of my office today to come down to here and was like by office and
10:01 then just like brainwave hit me and i fell over into a beanbag chair cause i
10:04 was like holy crap because i was like it's like that felt more impactful than
10:10 leaving the old office and i was like i wonder why and i was like oh wow you've
10:14 been in there forever yeah yeah isn't that crazy it's my two year
10:19 anniversary on monday it's you're you're watching two years yeah buddy is that
10:23 past the point where i can just fire you for no cause and with no notice
10:27 i mean you are the owner of the company is it max
10:35 all right well then i guess you're still on the team Colton
10:39 yeah whoa Colton's still on the team let's do some ads
10:44 i'll get to the ads later later um so
10:47 yeah there's actually like more archaeology to do here yeah than there
10:51 was there and you remember how freaking crazy yeah that place was
10:56 um so yeah it's gonna be a lot of fun and
10:59 there's a lot of personalities involved okay
11:02 things got snippy a little bit because like i know you weren't here this is why
11:05 you saw some of the team chat though things have gotten a little snippy you
11:10 know there have been some there have been some messages to the group chat
11:13 about grading people's ability to park
11:16 their cars yeah far enough back from the sidewalk yeah um you know like there's
11:22 been way too sassy that was probably that's probably over
11:26 the line sassy and uh
11:29 so yeah stuff's uh stuff's gotten real this week
11:35 meanwhile i'm like sitting on a train yeah meanwhile you're on a train i can't
11:39 really tell about what my event was retrieving our broken company van yeah
11:45 which was like so i was expecting this train trip to be
11:49 horrible i only got two hours of sleep beforehand sucked but like it's a train
11:53 trip so whatever yeah um got held over
11:56 at the border they didn't want to let me down because they couldn't understand what i
12:00 was going to do don't let me don't let me well they were like why are you going
12:03 i need you i need you i need you right now
12:07 don't let me don't i can't remember okay so
12:10 they're like they're wondering why i was going so far to pick up the vehicle and
12:13 then like stopping off somewhere else it's a fair question it wasn't my
12:16 vehicle yeah it's a fair question and then he kept on getting confused about who i worked for
12:21 okay which was really difficult also a fair question well not really because he
12:25 would be like who do you work for and be like lioness media group be like who owns a vehicle and Linus media group
12:30 okay so is it your vehicle i was like no it's the companies what companies
12:36 Linus media group okay so you did make it pretty easy on him
12:41 yeah like it wasn't it wasn't super complicated but then yeah we got pulled
12:45 in and it wasn't it just took an annoying amount of time when like
12:48 there's a train that's going to leave right but i left intentionally like way
12:52 early so i ended up being totally fine which is part of the reason why i got
12:56 such a small amount of sleep but whatever and then the wi-fi on the train
12:59 was legendary no streaming of any kind allowed
13:03 yeah not even not even music okay and any files above 10 megs they
13:07 just killed really yeah you can you know you can vpn
13:12 it usually yeah some of the some of the others on the ferry and stuff like i'm
13:16 not new to that but it's just like ah all right come on come on and then so i
13:20 get down there get the vehicle it's fine check out rod's shop it's amazing yep
13:24 holy cow his cnc is incredible it's so it's expensive but it's badass
13:30 um broad's pretty dope and then i went up to microsoft and things happened
13:35 and then you guys will hear about that later
13:38 yeah so my my week was uh definitely more eventful than yours
13:43 i mean mine was pretty eventful yeah maybe you know but we wouldn't know that
13:47 no right get owned right
13:51 um all right so i guess we should get
13:54 into the news for the week we haven't even rolled the intro well okay without
13:58 looking without looking at the doc okay uh uh vega Threadripper uh core i9
14:05 uh maybe NVIDIA did something
14:09 yeah cool sounds good all right forget it screw it
14:17 all the first topics are i9 Threadripper and vega
14:21 sick
14:25 sick brah i'm trying to see if NVIDIA did something but i don't think so
14:31 maybe it just wasn't newsworthy because like it didn't make it into the circle
14:36 jerk right yeah am i allowed to say circle jerk while
14:39 i'm flashing our sponsor logos on the screen
14:43 let's just hope they don't look at that part all right
14:47 and yeah it must be the wind show that's
14:51 weird i resized it now it looks so different to me
14:56 it kind of does yeah we could probably move it a little closer even try and take up even less space out there yeah
15:01 all right so why don't we move into our first tech topic of the week so the core
15:07 i9 CPU lineup specs have been finalized
15:12 this is according to pc pern it was posted by the benjamins
15:16 over on the forum now there was a lot of speculation
15:20 that the reason that Intel wasn't finalizing um
15:25 some aspects of their of the rest of the core i9 lineup was
15:30 because they had no idea if they were gonna be able to make these bloody
15:34 things based on how much power they were gonna
15:37 consume and how much heat they were gonna output which okay is kind of a
15:41 weird trend can i just say we have these processors being a huge
15:45 amount of power huge amount of heat vega huge amount of power huge amount of heat
15:48 where for the last longest time it's just be like those things don't matter
15:51 because they're just constantly going down well that's i guess what uh what
15:55 competition does is it forces you to push the envelope a little bit yeah
15:58 which is cool um so here we go so sky lake x
16:03 goes up to 18 cores as we already knew
16:06 but this is some interesting stuff it will turbo up to 4.4 gigahertz at turbo
16:12 boost max speeds and it'll turbo boost
16:15 at turbo boost 2.0 speeds of up to 4.2 gigahertz
16:19 so that's uh that's pretty sick i guess it'll cost two grand which we already
16:23 knew and it'll have 18 cores 36 threads
16:26 as we already knew so the pricing looks like from the 7900x which is kind of the
16:32 flagship right now at a thousand bucks you're going to pay 200 200 300 then
16:36 another 300 to get 12 14 16 and 18 cores
16:41 respectively and they pretty much are all going to turbo the same except the
16:45 7900x and the 7820
16:48 which are gonna hit 4.5 gigahertz so
16:51 those are your single thread kings if you need a high core count processor
16:56 because otherwise you're just getting a 7700k because you're not stupid enough
17:00 to spend money on an lga 2066 motherboard so you can put a 7740 on it
17:07 how that stacks up with threadripper is that basically multi-core at the same
17:12 core counts performance is gonna look fairly similar remember skylake is a
17:18 generation behind kaby lake on the consumer side so that is one fewer
17:23 generational improvement that AMD has to fight with on this platform
17:27 um so at similar core counts they're going to perform pretty similarly except maybe
17:32 a little less for AMD because their max turbo is 4 gigahertz
17:36 but what AMD brings to the table is higher base clocks so in those highly
17:42 threaded workloads AMD is going to look pretty good and they bring lower pricing
17:47 to the table so uh your 16 core is going to cost a thousand bucks so AMD's going
17:52 head-to-head against Intel's 10 core and their 12 core gets to go up against
17:57 somewhere between an 8 core and a 10 core but that 8 core is actually
18:03 kind of kneecapped with only 28 PCIe lanes versus redrippers full 64.
18:09 and then the 1900x is that kind of weirdo skew where it's only got eight
18:14 core 16 threads just like
18:18 the consumer top end ryzen 7
18:22 but it's got 64 pci elaines for being
18:26 able to put like lots of gpus or other devices on it and nick needs something
18:30 what can i do for you you need me like water like the other
18:36 words i'm gonna show you guys something while Linus is gone that i just think is
18:41 absolutely wonderful is this i opened it on the wrong
18:46 computer it's okay i'll figure this out perpetual windshield hock
18:52 so this happened on twitter you guys might have seen it it was pretty popular
18:56 on the reddits today but NVIDIA tweeted out welcome back AMD threadripper and a
19:02 GeForce 1080 ti make a compelling pair it's interesting because you have to
19:06 remember that they're technically separate business groups the graphics cards and the cpus on AMD's side so
19:12 NVIDIA is like totally okay with doing stuff like this
19:16 whoo the fight is coming
19:20 me one second i think with that we're gonna move on
19:24 wow
19:29 oh what okay hold up how do we turn this back on
19:34 does it automatically you can talk normally yeah it just automatically turns back on
19:38 okay so unfortunately a light that is like right here was unplugged and it
19:44 takes like a long time for it to heat up which does that make sense because it
19:48 was already we'll figure hot out we'll figure it out
19:54 because i'm plugging it vacuum and i plugged the wrong thing you're going to vacuum here
19:59 right now no no i'm plugging oh unplugging that
20:03 okay anyway sorry moving on
20:06 huh enter max is gonna have the first out of the gate aio for Threadripper
20:10 i'm gonna drop this into the chat and then try to get it up on screen real
20:13 quick
20:17 i don't see it warming up so i'm really not sure about that
20:21 yeah that might be a good idea what's up what's up what's up uh we're gonna talk
20:25 about threadripper's first water block and i showed off yeah uh Colton
20:29 accidentally unplugged that i showed this off did he accidentally copyright
20:32 strike our own channel while he's at it
20:35 yeah you heard me Colton
20:39 uh i showed this off real quick oh cool
20:43 what yeah that so that happened on twitter no
20:47 yeah you know with how much bad blood there is between those two companies
20:52 like that almost comes across as like
20:56 throwing shade man yeah
21:01 like oh man that is like
21:05 honestly like the way okay so first of all
21:10 oh so AMD did
21:14 segment the company so they switched over
21:17 yeah i said that when you're gone AMD and radio technologies group so like
21:21 technically NVIDIA is just talking to the CPU side yeah and technically
21:25 a lot of the bad blood really is
21:29 between NVIDIA and ati yeah that's how far back it goes but
21:33 like the engineering teams like the engineering team at AMD
21:38 contains ati people still like for sure
21:41 yeah like there's a lot of lifers that are still around there
21:44 um hey brandon is it like coming back i
21:47 think so so like
21:52 here here here no it's fine it's fine don't worry about it i don't see it warming up i got a solution here look
21:58 it's not plugged it's not what oh nice yeah yeah yeah we use the flashlight
22:02 flashlight on the phone baby there we go no problem okay we got this
22:07 we got this um so what's what's your vibe what's your
22:12 vibe genuine genuineness welcome back to the
22:15 enthusiast party or uh
22:18 or or are they throwing shade like like ha ha you weren't you weren't around for
22:22 five years i would give them uh benefit of the doubt here you would give NVIDIA
22:26 the benefit of the doubt when it comes to crapping on AMD
22:31 okay but it is crapping on them the welcome back
22:35 the welcome back part is crapping on them but they are legitimately saying
22:39 like we think our gpus will work well with your cpus which they will yeah
22:43 that's a good point and they are legitimately saying that so i think
22:46 they're like like to the guy who like goes on
22:52 vacation for a year and then scores his first touchdown after like a really
22:56 really really long time and you're like welcome back you did a
22:59 good job like it's a little sassy but at the same time you're like okay good job
23:07 or it's just broken now yeah it's possible that we like hey
23:12 the lights on okay oh lordy
23:16 okay uh what else we got in the news this year
23:22 wow world's worst throw sorry
23:26 this is interesting so this was posted by knickknack on the forum more
23:30 threadripper news the original isn't on it's warming up now you guys will it
23:33 yeah it's coming right it's coming it's coming uh the original article is from
23:37 tom's hardware okay so there was a lot of controversy
23:41 over Intel's um i don't even remember the stupid
23:45 features called anymore but their bootable raid that bypasses the pci express
23:51 controller and the chipset and goes straight off this ah something something
23:55 rock dang it v rock
23:58 uh so v rock uh Intel's software raid that's running straight
24:04 off the CPU that's bootable there's a lot of controversy over Intel's
24:07 intention to allow users to upgrade to it with like a
24:12 hardware like enabling key that they have to plug into
24:17 their motherboard although so i'll give them this though
24:20 they were a step ahead of AMD who is straight up not able to support
24:25 bootable NVMe raid at all right now
24:31 so there you go how many people do you think this excludes
24:37 okay two answers answer number one
24:42 very few yeah answer number two within the community of users that are
24:47 going to buy they're buying a thousand dollar processors
24:50 400 motherboards if i'm spending this kind of money on a
24:54 motherboard i better have cashola to just drop on NVMe rate but
25:00 even then buying a one terabyte NVMe drive is just your bootable drive and
25:05 then doing other stuff with other things like hard drives and whatnot for like
25:08 huge amounts of storage beyond that seems pretty reasonable i think yeah
25:13 even my crazy stupid overbuilt computer
25:16 just has one NVMe drive and
25:19 and it's lightning fast and i can't tell the difference between the stuff that's
25:23 on the seda rate yeah
25:26 because it's pretty fast having like three really quick ssds in raid zero so
25:31 there aren't a ton of of uh consumer applications for NVMe
25:38 raid boot drives however drives that's that's the part
25:42 that i'm trying to make very clear here that i'm talking about because you can
25:45 always software rate NVMe drives yeah that's been i have a software rate of
25:49 NVMe drives that we're running our our editing server off of yeah so we're
25:52 specifically talking about boot drive yep um and honestly i have a hard time
25:58 telling the difference between an NVMe boot drive and even a good SATA
26:03 SSD boot drive like not even raid zero unless i'm hitting it pretty hard yeah
26:07 um however
26:11 threadripper is being targeted at the
26:14 workstation user as well as the enthusiast who's just like
26:19 herpadip i want the bestest i want to go
26:23 faster and just like buying more NVMe drives
26:26 even though they know they can't tell the difference and on the workstation
26:31 where you're working with some like huge data set or something
26:35 we're talking 16 cores crunching it
26:39 you could run into an i o bottleneck well how do you care about it being on
26:42 the boot drive
26:48 also they're enabling the feature in the future
26:54 so this is kind of a it was kind of a non-story this is i haven't even noticed
26:58 that part at launch okay
27:01 now it's just my house is mostly so like it barely matters and it only matters
27:05 for a limited period of time yes all right this is kind of okay this is
27:09 one of those things where like it's kind of like Intel having okay so
27:15 Intel had support for uh
27:18 NVMe raid within their um what's that stupid uh rst uh rapid storage
27:24 technology or uh srt no rst their rapid
27:27 storage technology like their driver like software raid doodad that lives in
27:31 the system tray there you go okay so they had support for NVMe raid going
27:35 back quite a quite a ways um but the problem for me when i bought that 48
27:41 NVMe server you feel old i didn't sorry i shouldn't say bot because super micro
27:45 sent it to me but i bought the drives that went in it going back quite a ways
27:48 i still remember making the video for like the first drive let alone right
27:52 anyways okay so when i got the 48 drive
27:55 server i ran into all these problems trying to
27:58 create a raid array because it turned out that it was capped at 12 devices
28:04 and i was like well this is a spectacularly first world
28:07 problem that affects very few people like
28:11 like me no one else had ever brought it up to supermicro i was like hey so
28:15 you've got this 48 drive enclosure like how do you run all the drives
28:19 together and they're like nobody's ever asked
28:23 i'm like what do you mean nobody's ever asked they're like well
28:26 don't take this the wrong way Linus but most of the people using a device
28:31 like this kind of know what they're doing
28:36 i mean they said it a lot nicer than that like way nicer than that
28:40 but it was pretty savage and i got all the way to like one of
28:44 their like a like class support texts
28:48 and the guys just like yeah like we're shipping this crap to
28:52 like you know tier one software companies like they've got their own proprietary
28:56 crap they're running on it like like they're like forking
29:00 Linux distros to like build their own yeah freaking thing and i'm like
29:06 so like get it you know you got a number for someone over there maybe they want
29:09 to hook me up for like oh brutal yeah so i ended up with
29:14 Windows storage spaces which is a huge great by the way
29:20 which is working great by the way working great what for me what's not
29:24 working great i i have i've talked to multiple people about it i tried to set
29:28 up my system with storage spaces oh yeah do you remember because the like i had
29:33 lots of problems with those two boards the first one wouldn't boot with certain
29:36 RAM configurations yeah yeah the second one had just no raid set up yeah it just
29:42 didn't exist on the board at all yeah so i was like uh
29:46 i'll try storage spaces and everyone was like it'll be fine it's been fine for
29:50 everything except for ubisoft games
29:54 oh really okay well that i didn't see coming steam games launched fine yeah
29:58 origin games i think i've had problems with like one
30:01 or two and they were like super retro ones all the new ones work fine
30:05 and then every single ubisoft game doesn't work at all you know you have a nas anyway if
30:10 i were you i would just be software five and then mirror it yeah it doesn't
30:14 matter yeah it's just it's just annoying like why
30:21 am am okay we could definitely blame ubisoft here
30:24 but at some degree it's probably i wouldn't be surprised if it's both sides
30:28 to a little like a little bit yep i don't know i think your nas also supports iscsi you
30:33 could set up an ice cream would be totally fine yeah that would probably that would probably do it
30:38 um i'd be loading games off hard drives
30:41 i don't want to put everything over there yeah right yeah
30:47 oh this is cool this was posted by the angry computer masher on the forum the
30:51 original article is from video cards apparently
30:55 red ripper water blocks are coming which is important because Threadripper is
30:59 also the heat ripper yeah um so it's available in a variety of
31:04 different colors there's red there's silver it's a variety of sorts and it's
31:08 by a company called biski byski it's a chinese there are so
31:13 many chinese case and like cooling manufacturers that i had never freaking
31:17 heard of when i went over to computex like
31:21 cognitively i'm aware that there is a billion people in china
31:24 and cognitively i'm aware that that's as
31:28 many people as there are in north america
31:32 and like i think most of europe combined
31:37 like cognitively i'm aware of these things
31:40 so it makes sense then that there would be
31:44 like for every ek and swift tech
31:47 and swift i i've never heard of this company before and i'm going to assume
31:51 that they're bigger than both of them it could be so for every ek and every
31:56 swift tech there's probably a brand that exists solely within china that's as big
32:01 or bigger it's like that's gotta be great for that
32:06 company because then you only deal with that country's
32:09 issues and you're shipping although it has some pretty special issues but right
32:14 we've learned that yeah like apparently there's a whole like
32:17 bribe economy in in the tax system yeah so when you're paying local taxes
32:22 there's like bribes that you have to pay along with the taxes and that can depend
32:27 on like who the person is and what their status is and it changes over time
32:30 almost impossible to automate yeah and like like it's pretty
32:34 it's pretty sketch actually but yeah carry on but but you'd probably get used
32:37 to it if you're there your whole life and you get used to it um and like
32:42 shipping stuff is probably relatively simple not going over tons of different
32:46 borders not dealing with all that although i think the last mile is legitimately by bicycle in china so
32:51 there's that not all oh not all of them
32:54 yeah i mean shipping to like stores and stuff yeah
33:00 but yeah carry on well it's impossible that it's all of
33:03 them no no okay yes not everything yes you would have yeah but because like big
33:07 apartment buildings yes yes yes i doubt you're shipping a threadripper to like
33:12 a hut you know what we should go on a field
33:16 trip to china at some point like i've been there now you've been there right
33:20 but i was there for like 48 hours tops
33:23 similar yeah like i was like in my hotel room float planning almost the entire
33:27 and like i was in a hotel that specifically had instructions for how to
33:32 bypass the great firewall of china so yeah my only exposure to it was like
33:38 on tv something came on and i was like
33:42 like i know what's behind that but like why are you even bothering like
33:45 huh i like i couldn't even figure out why they didn't want people to know
33:49 about that specific thing but i was like oh yeah look at that they really do
33:52 censor tv how about that um
33:56 but but it would be it would be interesting to just go see like chinese
33:59 land parties and like oh my god that would be super cool like
34:04 that would be pretty that would be pretty fun like isn't one of NVIDIA's
34:07 like big like certified we should try to meet center's there i think so and we
34:11 should try to meet with like a big chinese uh like computer hardware
34:16 reviewing group yeah that would be very interesting to
34:21 see what they do just be like you're like a studio what's up yeah yeah like
34:26 how do hardware reviews work in china because like honestly like what are your
34:29 big brands yeah like the truly global manufacturers the guys like Intel yeah
34:34 like they could put us in touch yeah for sure AMD would probably be easier
34:38 actually because they're less segmented from region to reach right because
34:41 they're a smaller company um you know because they haven't had a
34:45 great five years um but yeah like someone like AMD could
34:49 probably be like yeah like here's the guys who matter in china be like yeah
34:52 that would be super interesting i wonder if we'd be able to get a visa for that
34:56 it's media so it would be harder yeah but speaking of uh meetings or something
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37:39 to try out and i am planning to wear mine for the rest of the show i don't
37:43 know about you okay i'm down i am totally down i've picked mine already i
37:47 actually checked out all of them oh really those are kids
37:50 oh really so you can try that and i think these are more for ladies
37:55 you know what you know what cat eyes i'll try them all right so they got a
37:58 bunch of different styles of shots i'll try the kids one this is artist
38:02 you're not going to fit the key i'm going to try it all right so this is the
38:05 artist style oh my god they're amazing you know what's funny
38:10 they even have like oh these are adorable
38:14 heck yeah these are awesome you know what's so
38:17 funny about like hipster people
38:21 hey they've got the uh they're double jointed so yeah when they drop them or
38:25 sit on them or whatever and even even the ends are all flexible and stuff okay
38:28 the funny thing about hipster like artist people is that these
38:33 were legitimately what my grandma was wearing in the late 90s
38:38 now that's a cool trendy thing for young people because that's how it works
38:43 apparently i'm liking these i'll wear these for the rest i actually i'm i'm down for i'm
38:48 down for the hipster i'm down for the hipster like uh because they got like
38:52 the the the yellow and black kind of alternating kind of pattern around them
38:56 it actually looks pretty good right right those look good on you too i think
39:01 they're slightly too round but when you're looking at the set like this
39:05 pattern looks really good on you cool yeah well i'm happy to be trendy anyway
39:09 the point is spectrum glasses are for folks who stare
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39:16 and they are meant to make it more comfortable to be using a screen all day
39:21 some monitors do have a blue light mode but that's only really gotten popular
39:25 within the last few years so there are literally millions tens of millions of
39:30 monitors and laptops actually out there that do not have a mode like that and
39:35 while there are software solutions it is not the same type of filtering yeah
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40:10 okay all right so let's see what else what else we got here or uh float we got
40:15 we got news oh yeah oh yeah cool what's up on Floatplane right now
40:19 um oh i never well you're giving that up i can talk about this i don't think we
40:25 need anything on screen for this necessarily uh discord is announcing
40:28 video chat and screen sharing although one big thing that's going to lack on
40:32 this launch is there won't be any audio pass-through for the screen sharing
40:36 although i don't necessarily know if i care all that much um
40:40 i'm sure it matters to a certain degree is that like something where they're running into like drm
40:45 sort of restrictions possibly or like they're passing the video through yeah but if
40:50 they can't pass the audio like that it's less likely it would make
40:55 the group movie watching experience a little less right likely i could maybe i
41:00 don't know i don't know does it though i'm just guessing so but
41:03 then skype maybe has a bigger legal team or something i don't know uh they are
41:06 saying now friends on discord can watch each other play their favorite games
41:10 while talking face to face that sounds weird i don't know if that's really
41:13 gonna be a thing uh but it might be a lot easier for streamers maybe you're
41:17 just getting old maybe that's possible um i could see it
41:22 being a much bigger thing for streamers discord already has streamer mode and
41:26 like ties into twitch where you can have all your subscribers in your twitch
41:30 channel and all this kind of stuff and if you can have voice and video calls
41:34 streamers could have like a streaming room and be in streaming mode right and all
41:38 kind of stuff and use that instead of like skype for playing doing streams
41:42 collaboratively right which makes a lot of sense
41:46 all right i've got a lot of good stuff on Floatplane this week actually we've
41:50 got the cheapest pc case on the market
41:53 oh man we found it we hot rodded the snot out of it it's actually awesome it
41:59 looks really cool it's actually sick alex did a great job
42:04 um i love how now that we have like alex and these other guys yeah it's like oh
42:08 this thing sucks we'll like tear the trash out of it and like make fun of it
42:12 and then make it awesome because we're just gonna mod the hell that's right baby uh 4k gaming at 120 hertz on a diy
42:19 monitor what yeah baby
42:23 wait did you make that well it's it's a kit okay that's cool unboxing the real razer
42:29 toaster nice is NVIDIA ruining your performance
42:35 by sandbagging their drivers oh that's a
42:38 triggery video i know i know but it had to be done of course it had to be done
42:44 um we've got a couple of other things we've got a lot of behind the scenes
42:47 vlogs and stuff like that we've got a couple tech quickies
42:51 um the crappiest decile i set up of all time we've had a lot of simultaneous
42:55 releases lately so it's pushed out um some pretty old videos that have been
42:59 taking a while to make their way to the platform but we've got some but like kind of in place of that there has been
43:04 a lot of sounds on uh there has been a lot of
43:07 like the new moving stuff i've actually got one more vlog and then
43:11 i'm going to start doing some meet the team pieces because people have asked for like kind of proper intros to some
43:16 of the new people you know what's interesting talking about stuff on youtube now that did
43:21 really well on Floatplane as well and if you're on Floatplane you would have seen it earlier is the the pippin video yeah
43:28 it did really well people love that still going dude it's beating the thread
43:32 ripper 1.1 million views on uh
43:35 maybe did it help that we had a sealed some people were pretty salty that we
43:39 opened that thing hey really yeah they were like
43:43 that was vintage and and i see their point like it was not
43:48 sealed it's not like you can make a new not sealed one i don't really
43:52 agree with that but we didn't damage it i collect old games and stuff but in my
43:56 opinion they're there to be played yeah see that's a philosophical thing
44:00 though that a lot of collectors like okay so this is this is i hear like
44:05 i i know that there is a lot of people that view it this way i just don't
44:08 personally so it's a stupid tangent um my one of my wife's friend's daughter is
44:13 turning one okay and so
44:18 Yvonne is getting for her daughter something that's really for her mom
44:22 because like what does a one-year-old do with a toy no eat it um
44:26 and she started collecting polly pockets do you remember polly pocket and mighty
44:30 max oh you're younger than me i know i know like people that i knew were you
44:35 wrong people that i knew were into it i
44:38 wasn't i don't know but like kids my age were into that stuff okay fine
44:43 so anyway she's just just for like for laws she's started collecting polly
44:47 pockets and she has a little like thing for them and stuff and i was looking
44:51 into it and polly pockets and mighty max for that
44:55 matter are one of those toys where i can legitimately see
44:59 how the sealed one would have a lot more value
45:02 than the non-sealed one because the pieces are so small and there's it's
45:06 really hard to track down exactly what they're supposed to come with but that's
45:10 a lot of value to sell yes
45:14 so tell me what if i bought it to play with it so if you and not to sell it if
45:18 you collected mighty max let's say for example okay you know what no let's say
45:22 you collected polly pocket i'm not judging i'm just sure saying no that's
45:25 probably what you would claim either way would you buy something would
45:29 you collect something like that to sell or would that be more of a display piece
45:34 like if you collect collecting it to sell
45:37 then in my opinion that's a business what if you collected it just to own it
45:41 because that's a third that i would want to do something with it you would want
45:45 to do something i want to play with my little polly so you would take it out of
45:48 the package even if it's just to like put it on a nice display case and like
45:52 create like a little like and i have a still life and i have done that because
45:56 i have the i have the halos master chief helmet on a stand that's out of his
46:00 packaging i have uh the dragonborn
46:03 fighting a dragon statue thing from skyrim okay i have soldier 76 i have um
46:12 master sword in a stone i have
46:16 the chick from horizon zero dawn i have a few little statue kind of thingies
46:19 that are right kind of around my house i think they look really cool if they were
46:22 in their box it would be um the game box or plain
46:27 white foam okay all right fair enough which sounds
46:31 super lame honestly looking at these mighty maxes and polly pockets
46:36 man i think there's a legitimate business
46:39 model there of just buying like like actually huge
46:45 quantities yeah and like that's of like every toy go ahead but like i'm
46:49 the person that's buying it and then using it right
46:52 because like if you want to buy it to resell it sure nostalgia man like as
46:56 like who has nostalgia of a pippin
47:00 yeah i guess that's a fair point like a maximum of 42 000 people if
47:06 everyone loves loved it yeah and i like pretty much guarantee that's not what
47:10 happened so
47:14 i'm kind of thinking okay this is our next but we just forget
47:18 that yeah forget this Linus media group that's great okay you and i just no one
47:22 else is listening right well yeah i know what i'm gonna do okay so you and i are
47:25 gonna go into business okay we're just gonna find cheap storage space nice and
47:30 every night i mean someone's probably selling theirs now that we're out of this right right okay
47:35 every new stupid crappy trend yeah we
47:38 buy like a pallet of it perfect okay we buy a pallet of it we just store it all
47:43 indiana jones warehouse style okay and then we just wait for 20 years
47:48 because i i kid you not like sealed poly
47:51 pockets we're going for like 80 100 bucks yeah we're talking a 10x increase in
47:57 value over 20 years that's actually a not freaking bad return that's not bad
48:02 you just gotta nail it every time you don't even have to if you get it right
48:07 half of the time and you can probably flip it for
48:11 something the other parts of the time exactly it's like you know it's a really
48:15 good business model right now actually sure kind of frustrating is making like
48:20 advertising more aggressively and getting better seo using trendier
48:25 websites than companies that are actually doing what they're supposed to be doing and just buying knockoffs from
48:29 china like there was this new bra thing it's
48:34 like kind of a sticker and then you pull the thing in and it pulls i don't know
48:37 how it works i don't get it oh it's like a strapless push-up bra right yeah yeah
48:41 there was a lot of online pop-up shops that happened and it's essentially like
48:46 little mall kiosks but on the internet and they just pop up with crazy seo they
48:50 advertise through like facebook and youtube super aggressively
48:55 like really really aggressively so that they're always in your news feed and you're just like oh i've seen this
48:59 advertised everywhere i guess that's the one that i've seen that people are
49:02 talking about i guess i'll just buy that one and you just make it something if
49:05 it's just super generic you just buy a crap ton of them ship them over on like
49:09 a drop ship and then just throw up a whole bunch of
49:13 different you can even have one company that just has like a hundred websites
49:16 there are a lot of like skeevy crappy ways to make money aren't they yeah some
49:20 people are bringing up fidget spinners in the twitch chat and honestly
49:24 here's what i would kind of tell you because i think they were being
49:27 kind of sarcastic but here's the thing
49:32 and some of you might not be old enough to appreciate this yet
49:36 but nothing is as good now as it was when i was a kid
49:40 and i actually mean that objectively wagon wheels would be a perfect example
49:45 of a candy that was delicious and tastes like utter trash now
49:49 but like there's actually been changes to the recipe yes
49:52 uh honey nut cheerios are another example oh my gosh when i was like six
49:57 they were awesome they killed honey nut cheerios yeah like
50:00 poor marquez who loves his honey nut cheerios so much has never even tasted
50:05 honey nut cheerios i had the good old days ones okay so anyway
50:09 here's what will happen with something like fidget spinners they'll come back
50:13 but they'll be crappier so if you bought a bunch of cheap ones
50:18 today that would be a bad play but if
50:21 you bought a bunch of like premium and specialty ones like a bunch of like cool
50:26 ones or ones with like um
50:29 timeless branding like i don't know if pokemon is timeless but something like
50:34 um uh oh man i don't know about like toy
50:37 story but like like like gundam branding like some kind of
50:42 really resilient anime or something like that a really high quality one from like
50:46 a reputable maker a palette or two of those would be worth
50:50 a gold mine 20 years ago i'm sure of i wonder if even like uh
50:55 dude perfect ones no i okay
50:59 nothing against dude perfect but i wouldn't bet on any youtuber including
51:03 ourselves because they're too short-lived it's potentially too flash
51:07 in the pen right um and you look at every youtuber has what i call the curve
51:12 where they go yeah they go like sorry i'm gonna go across your face because i
51:15 was right behind the thing where they go like this everybody grows really slow at
51:19 the beginning because that's that's the nature of the algorithm and then they
51:22 grow and then they plateau
51:25 and then they decline and sometimes it's a slow decline and sometimes some come
51:29 back phil defranco ijustine these are examples of creators that that bucked
51:34 the curve and and you can also just kind of
51:38 flat and then manage to come back up again and then go flat and then you'll
51:41 come up again and then you'll fly yep but that curve i've seen it so many
51:46 times and there can be a thousand reasons uh got into tv yeah just lost
51:52 their passion team fell apart got bored uh
51:57 decided to form an mcn didn't adjust
52:01 with the current like meta didn't adjust
52:04 didn't change their thumbnails i just didn't care anymore like there's a
52:07 thousand reasons why people fade off the
52:10 platform but i have seen very few
52:13 examples of turning your platform success
52:17 once you are no longer supporting the youtube audience
52:21 into some kind of actual sustainable
52:24 off-platform success um i think uh harley from epic meal time would be an
52:30 example but i do have to wonder if his fortunes
52:34 today would actually be even better if he had stuck with youtube for longer
52:38 because youtube is kind of like the investment phase
52:43 of a modern web video production business
52:48 it's like it's like where you're burning money it's like when you got your seed
52:51 funding and the see the funding might just be your own time yeah but that's
52:55 where you're investing into the business and you're growing the audience and then
52:59 there's like a monetization phase where people might try to go off platform or
53:04 they might try to us sell shirts open a merch store they might try or they might
53:09 try to pewdiepie's mobile game where they try to monetize in other ways if
53:13 pewdiepie spent all his damn time on his mobile game
53:18 then the plateau would happen because the
53:21 youtube audience and investing into that audience and growing it is how you open
53:26 up new opportunities for all that other stuff down the line yeah
53:29 um and basically the second you stop focusing on youtube that's where you
53:34 start to see a decline generally speaking some people are like
53:39 uh this guy because you didn't like call them out
53:42 like yeah it's not the point yeah the point is in any particular individual
53:47 right now this is a this is a greater observation about the platform
53:53 um anyway i feel like we've gotten a little
53:56 a little off topic uh this was posted by mr troll on the forum the original
54:00 article is w from wccf tech so you can take it with a grain of uh
54:04 wccf tech but AMD is rumored to be
54:07 building once again a dual AMD top of the line GPU card
54:13 which would surprise me a lot um but apparently they're going to throw
54:17 a couple of vega 10xts on
54:21 a single graphics card really
54:25 wow apparently nearly 600 watts of power draw because
54:29 yolo
54:33 um wow i would recommend not buying it if
54:38 they make it
54:42 like directly
54:45 and that's the end of that chapter
54:49 um over 50 teraflops of fp16 compute
54:53 25 teraflops of fp32 compute so this
54:56 thing is like it's almost like a workstation card except that they're
55:00 gonna aries gamer brand it out to the nines it is 600 watts per single card
55:07 you know and you can just put two the power supply makers
55:11 have to be just giddy right now oh yeah because for the first time in quite a
55:16 few ever a 1500 watt power supply might actually
55:20 be necessary like i'm serious if you went 18 from
55:25 what i'm hearing rumor wise an 18 core core i9 but who's doing this
55:31 just hold on hold on that's what i don't know hold up that's what i don't
55:35 understand these new processors that everyone's pushing in the consumer space
55:38 are not consumer processors
55:42 i don't like i don't understand why everyone like on reddit and all this
55:46 kind of stuff is freaking out over these processors who's why are you bought are you buying
55:51 this why are you buying this it's not for you
55:55 it's not for me okay why does anyone care okay you could
56:00 have used a computer with that much wattage before if you just bought server
56:03 parts okay let me jump let me jump i'm gonna let you finish but i'm like
56:08 you can go ahead it's just so stupid i don't i don't know it's a chicken and
56:11 egg thing though will we ever get software development that is really and
56:15 truly honestly multi-threaded if
56:19 it doesn't come to the high end i think we're going to wait for constant and eventually trickle down
56:23 i think we're going to wait for cars to consoles yeah
56:26 but it's got to start somewhere so can we be excited just for the
56:31 beginning of it even if we don't want to buy it is like old as hell now that's
56:35 true but knight's corner didn't have
56:38 single threaded performance like these new ones do that's true
56:43 these are like they're the everything so when people are like uh like that one's
56:47 too expensive this is like are you gonna buy the other one is that one more
56:51 affordable for you this is the happiest you're still in the red i need it to
56:54 product like okay but think about it this way too what about the used market
56:58 three years from now you could use market on a two thousand dollar process
57:02 yeah it but it would be like you know six hundred bucks
57:06 because we've seen the curve in three years yeah maybe
57:10 before would be cheaper at least the process is finally starting
57:15 because here's the thing for the power supply makers
57:18 for all this time they've had a product that has
57:22 no legitimate they they tried to be the
57:25 first one out so they're like everyone else can now make things that need more whatsoever
57:30 there was no upgrade at all
57:35 yeah yeah whereas now there is legitimately okay when all of
57:40 my baller friends get tired of their vega 64s and buy
57:44 something more efficient probably and their and their you know core i9s
57:49 because word on the street is like overclocked you could be looking at
57:54 hundreds uh not a couple
57:57 hundreds of watts through an 18 core
58:00 core i9 through the socket okay so you know i could buy this stuff for
58:05 pennies on the dollar and have legitimately a baller ass gaming machine
58:11 but i but i need a baller power supply for it so like scrapyard wars
58:15 2026 is gonna be banging yeah pretty
58:18 much and and and like the one thing that
58:21 we're going to make sure that we invest in this time
58:25 is a good power supply
58:29 like a really good one yeah yeah
58:33 um what else we got here
58:38 paris is apparently considering esports for the 2024 olympics which i like
58:44 i've defended esports on the lan show against you for years and i think this
58:47 is so dumb yeah i would be down with there being like an
58:52 easy olympics sure but that should be like it should be
58:56 like okay and don't take this the wrong way careful
59:00 now but it should go olympics
59:03 paralympics and then e olympics
59:06 because quite frankly even if you just see it as like first
59:10 one into the gate the audience overlap
59:13 is like negligible yeah probably you could run
59:17 them at the same time no because then i think that's like
59:22 okay think about like you know households with one screen you know okay
59:27 yeah yeah yeah junior doesn't want to fight with grandpa over you know who's
59:31 got the tv yeah um but you know what what have we got here
59:35 they'll consider an inclusion as a metal event accordingly okay you gotta read
59:39 this quote you have to right there we have to look at it because we can't say
59:43 it's not us it's not about olympics then the next one the youth yes they're
59:47 interested in esports and this kind of thing let's look at it let's meet them
59:50 let's try and see if we can find some bridges the youths
59:53 they like they like the electronics
59:58 we need to find a way to incorporate it so that the youths are interested
60:05 oh my goodness all right uh this was posted by the beast pc on the
60:09 forum the original article is from tom's guide
60:13 this is apparently what the iphone 8 looks like
60:17 it's an iphone 8 dummy unit and it's a video
60:20 dagnabbit looks like a marquez video looks like a
60:24 marquez video i like that that carpet right there that still
60:27 doesn't have his uh thing that i told him to put on it when i inspected his
60:30 studio um okay
60:33 well we'll see how that goes i wow i i can't actually believe how
60:38 much i hate this really i don't mind it oh i think it's
60:41 because the screen extends on each side of it it's a terabyte i think it's just
60:44 a way to get more screen real estate because you have like little notification things up there like your
60:48 battery status and stuff is in line with your camera
60:53 i don't mind it at all personally
60:56 that i really hope that's not the touch sensor on the back
61:00 that is pure cancer right in the middle
61:03 is mine written i don't know is it i think so i thought it was up a
61:06 little bit uh no you might be right actually that might be closer to the lg
61:10 approach let me i'm going to i can't remember my phone on me wow i actually
61:14 don't remember the last time i was that
61:17 not caring about a uh an iphone apparently not in the middle
61:21 at all oh yeah okay i'm sorry apparently it'll have wireless uh
61:26 charging it'll still have a camera bump on the back
61:29 and this is ridiculous okay this is posted
61:32 by snorting frogs on the forum we have been hounding seagate to let us
61:37 play with their 60 terabyte SSD since they announced it like a year ago
61:41 they still haven't gotten one to us and now they announce a 64 terabyte NVMe SSD
61:47 gosh darn it you guys no i'm real upset now
61:54 well i'll just ask for this one instead there you go disney to pull their
61:58 content from netflix this is originally from bloomberg this is a big deal
62:01 actually yeah so the
62:04 happy ecosystem that where you just pay one flat fee
62:09 and you get pretty much all the content that you could want
62:13 is getting fragmented so much for the idea of pulling the plug
62:20 or cutting the cord or whatever it's called there's a tied
62:23 commercial so much for cutting the cord and being
62:27 able to get pretty much everything you want for like 15 bucks a month in 4k
62:31 um it is you're gonna have to start building your own cable package the way
62:35 you used to subscribing to a bunch of different services and there is a huge
62:40 gap that is that just got formed
62:44 in the market for someone who's the aggregator
62:49 who's like okay basically a cable network yeah the online cable network is
62:55 coming where they're just like a platform where you buy your your disney
63:01 and your netflix and your other packages you view it all in one space and it uses
63:04 all the apis to bring together a nice little thing or if that's gonna be plex
63:08 i think the tv makers are gonna jump on this oh
63:12 so you think there's gonna be like a sims i think google could jump on this
63:16 yeah i think samsung is going to try and do their own thing with tizen i feel
63:20 like google might fail actually i think google's going to try to do it through
63:24 youtube and people aren't going to want that i don't think they will i think they're going to do it through devices
63:28 like the NVIDIA shield tv because remember too that there are tv
63:32 manufacturers including sony that bake full Android experiences into
63:37 their tv yeah but there's people that want this on their laptop the the trend
63:41 of like yup like university girl watching netflix all the time on her
63:44 macbook is like that's on her macbook not on her
63:48 tv it would be interesting for plex to go after it i don't think plex would
63:51 have the i don't think plex would have a negotia i don't think they'd have a seat
63:54 at the negotiation table come on plex further but for their support of piracy
63:59 all these years they're like uh we don't support piracy
64:04 but supportive piracy for all these years i don't think they win a chance to
64:07 talk about this interesting so i'll be interested to see where this goes but
64:12 one way or another disney pulled their catalog from netflix
64:16 they will stop supplying disney and pixar branded movies starting in 2019
64:19 and launch an online product of their own going directly to consumers this is part
64:25 of the reason why lioness started it and i've been doing
64:28 it for a little while now i've been like collecting when they go on crazy sales
64:33 on amazon blu-ray copies of yep movies
64:36 and tv shows that i'm personally really interested in because like yep
64:40 oh yay it's on netflix then it might just disappear
64:43 who knows and like to be clear i'm still gonna have a netflix subscription and i
64:47 do as well but the blu-ray does look a lot better if you're a big snob and if
64:51 you're like a crazy fanatic of a certain show
64:55 there's extras and some of them are really cool i really like commentary yep
64:59 that's one of my things i've always really liked like one of my favorite things ever was the making of dvd for i
65:04 think it's halo 2 or halo 3 i don't remember which one that was amazing i
65:08 love making of things and i love commentaries i i really like interviews
65:11 with producers actually yeah um like honestly that's like the making of
65:15 usually the interviews with larry david on the uh on the seinfeld complete
65:20 collection that i got at uh i got it at costco it was like so cheap it was
65:23 awesome that's the thing you snipe them on sales don't buy them at full price
65:26 because they're really expensive like hmv shut down and i got like six seasons
65:30 of game of thrones i'm still i'm still not watching but like i know i'm going
65:35 to watch them i got like a bunch of seasons of walking dead six seasons no i
65:38 got i think four seasons of game of thrones like six of walking dead which i still want to watch haven't even started
65:42 it yet but um yeah so
65:46 apparently they'll continue the relationship with marvel marvel tv
65:51 i got billington's excellent adventure and billet ted's bogus journey in a
65:55 combo pack for like five dollars or something
65:58 which was awesome oh oh oh oh
66:02 okay now this might be a case of picking studies based on confirming your own
66:06 bias but um uh this is off tech crunch apparently
66:11 some study finds and i haven't looked at their methodology at all but this is
66:14 just funny to me because honestly i think fitness trackers are the stupidest
66:18 most useless fat of all we're very against them um
66:22 i think we're both very for like
66:25 physical health and exercise and taking care of yourself i'm about that if you
66:29 have to like track your steps you're really not doing it right yeah
66:33 so fitbit apparently turns teens off exercising
66:40 has to do with pressure from pressure from competition with peers
66:44 encouraged in app leaderboard and also all the other things that are like push
66:49 push push compete against this other person only work for short term style
66:54 motivational effects or and this is the other thing i believe that fitness
66:57 trackers are great for people who were already going to be
67:01 ripped as hell and exercising all the time anyway
67:05 like it's one of those things where i don't see the fitness tracker
67:09 as a as a solution if you're only going for steps yes that's another thing they
67:14 mentioned here the un completely non-personalized 10 000 steps per day
67:19 target was cited as unfair and pressurizing goal generating feelings of
67:23 guilt or lack of ability among users like if you're working on it but it's
67:28 really diffic like very difficult for you to get 10 000 steps a day and you
67:32 just feel like you're failing all the time because you're doing like 9 000 steps but you're like really trying you
67:37 know what i'm at today that's terrible i don't even know how to check it on
67:40 here plus no
67:44 wow crap i legitimately actually don't know how to check on here
67:48 uh i never use the apple watch so it's like
67:53 i i should just switch to a watch honestly yeah
67:58 i've said that for a while to start sharing your activity sync to
68:02 the iphone yeah i don't even have it synced to my phone right now um
68:06 gamer's nexus tests the knock Noctua fan
68:09 rumors so we'll post the original article here in the twitch chat already
68:14 oh already then i knew you're gonna go into this next um they tested differences
68:19 including appearance noise and effectiveness and the online community
68:23 was quick to crap on Noctua about this
68:26 but it turns out the differences in the tooling were mostly to do with just not
68:30 just having two separate sets of molds at two different locations and two
68:34 separate facilities that have different capabilities and tuning that took place between
68:38 creating an original mold and a later mold um
68:41 and their quality standards haven't changed at all i was informed by Noctua
68:46 that our LTT edition fans were actually produced in china all of them and the nf
68:50 a14 has been they were great yeah they were great the nfa14 i believe has been
68:54 over there for a long time um but basically
68:57 uh gamers nexus got a larger sample
69:01 and debunked the claims it was down to
69:04 unit to unit variability for the original posts and
69:09 basically it's all within margin of error there's no difference between
69:13 china and taiwan made fans except for the appearance
69:17 and Noctua has always had issues with their color matching we've got old
69:21 Noctua fans where the cream is closer to white
69:24 and the brown is closer to like a reddish brown
69:27 or closer to like i particularly don't like in terms of
69:31 color the newer ones are not that big of a deal so there you go so that's pretty
69:34 much it for the lan show did you have anything else to uh
69:38 uh don't believe i can't talk about what i did this week so i don't really believe
69:42 so all right it's been a long week so i want to get the heck out of here i actually have a bunch of stuff i have to
69:46 cart up to the second story over there after this anyway so okay all right
69:50 we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel bye
69:55 wow lots of viewers today 6 800 almost 6 900
69:59 6900 that's pretty sick
70:04 that's pretty six d nine hundred
70:08 yeah all right so i guess uh keep these organized
70:16 right i also noticed the kids ones for these comes with a
70:19 whole bunch of replacement ones so that even if you break the side off you can
70:22 just replace it that's sick that's actually pretty smart they know what's up with kids yeah
70:28 someone on their team has had a child