Pre-built Acer desktop that doesn't suck? - Predator G1 Review

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2017-05-06 · 1,589 words · ~7 min read
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0:00 I think Acer has finally figured it out.
0:03 For the first time ever, as far as I know, Acer has done a pre-built gaming
0:09 rig that ships with NVIDIA's topofthe-line graphics card installed.
0:14 And the Predator G1 borrows a lot more
0:17 from enthusiasts and boutique system builders than just the idea of packing a
0:22 proper GPU inside. Let's take a closer
0:25 look.
0:35 Intel's Skull Canyon Nook features a sixth generation Core i7 processor and
0:40 Thunderbolt 3. You can learn more at the link in the video description.
0:44 Inside the box, you'll get the following: a Predator G1 gaming PC, some
0:49 extra screws and cables, a surprisingly competent set of peripherals. The
0:53 mouse's clicks are pleasantly tactile and it includes extra buttons for back
0:57 forward and toggling between three preset DPI settings. And the keyboard is
1:01 dual color LED back lit with a toggable gaming mode and Kaiwa mechanical key
1:06 switches mounted to what seems to be a steel back plate. Then if you get the
1:09 special edition launch bundle, there's also a copy of The Division and this is
1:14 a new one, an Acer Predator themed luggage with cutouts to carry your
1:18 gaming rig for when you travel. Leaving last but not least, two standard PC
1:22 power cables and two laptop power bricks in a neat looking holder. That Wait a
1:26 minute. What? Two power bricks? Yes, my
1:31 friends. The idea that I pitched to Cooler Master's product manager almost
1:35 three years ago of moving the power supply or two as it were outside an
1:40 otherwise standard desktop chassis for improvements to both thermals and size
1:44 cuz I'm a genius has officially come to
1:47 life courtesy of Acer of all people.
1:50 Well, whatever. Let's see if it worked. But first, I need to know if they impose
1:55 limits on the hardware that can be used in the Predator G1. So, let's pop her
2:00 open. which reveals a very interesting
2:04 layout. The centerpiece is a Core i76700
2:07 nonK quadcore hyperthreaded CPU, so no
2:11 overclocking. There's 32 gigs of DDR4 RAM and a cleverly positioned blower
2:16 case fan that should draw air across the front where a 512 gig M.2 to SATA SSD, a
2:22 slim DVD writer and a two TBTE hard drive reside across the memory sticks
2:27 and CPU area. And finally, over the motherboard heat sinks that cool both
2:31 the CPU power delivery modules and the
2:34 DC toDC converters that take 19vt
2:38 external power and turn it into the 12, 5, and 3.3 volt juice needed by your
2:44 computer guts. Not something that you often see on a pre-built motherboard.
2:49 Mind you, there's not much about this motherboard that's normal. Contrary to
2:53 the statement made by this unfortunate Acer spokesperson who's totally getting
2:57 called out right now. Like a mini ITX
3:00 board, it has only a single PCIe 3.06x
3:04 expansion slot, but it's closer in total
3:08 size to an MATX board. So, what is the
3:11 extra space being used for? A number of things. LED headers for the threezone
3:17 LED illumination that can be configurated regrettably not to all
3:21 operate on the same cycle for some reason using Acer's Predator Sense
3:25 software. One of only a couple bloy
3:28 pre-installed applications by the way. There's more room for memory sticks. So,
3:33 thanks to its four DIM slots, the Predator G1 can be upgraded to 64 gigs
3:37 of RAM. There's power distribution for the converted input power. The inclusion
3:42 of an extra PCIe power port and cable is a really nice touch, by the way, for
3:46 someone who might want to upgrade the graphics card in the future. And the
3:51 very open CPU socket area, which should help the performance of the fairly OEM
3:56 looking cooling solution that Acer has pre-installed. We'll talk about how well
4:00 this works later. For now, there are a couple more items to highlight in here.
4:05 Acer has included an extra 2 and 1/2 in drive cage with pre-run cables and
4:10 screws in case you want to add another 2 and 1/2 in SSD or hard drive, which is
4:14 much appreciated. And I want to take a closer look at the way the GTX 1080
4:19 graphics card is installed. So, it's covered with a Predator branded shroud,
4:24 but the unmistakable green glow visible from the bottom tells us two things.
4:29 It's a Founders Edition, and it's installed upside down. So Acer used a
4:35 hard PCB link to extend the PCI Express 16 neck slot, meaning that you can't
4:39 admire your graphics card with the side panel off, but shorter links are less
4:44 prone to signal degradation. And in theory, the way that they're pulling
4:48 fresh air in from the other side panel, keeping it contained then within its own
4:53 cooling zone and exhausting it out the back should deliver really solid thermal
4:58 results, which we'll get to. But first, a look at the outside. So, the top and
5:02 front of the Predator G1 features Acer's aggressive tank tread styling that I
5:09 personally think works better here than it did on the G6 due to the machine
5:14 smaller size. There's a power button flanked by two headset holders for some
5:19 reason, the optical drive we saw on the inside, and front IO, so an SD card
5:25 reader, a USB 310 GB type-C port, a USB
5:28 3 5GB typeA port, and a couple of audio
5:31 jacks. Around the back, the rest of the IO is actually pretty lackluster. The
5:37 3DPs, HDMI, and DVI provided by the
5:41 graphics card are accompanied only by 7.1 audio jacks with no digital output,
5:47 four USB3 5GB ports, and the DC input
5:51 jacks that may be at least partially responsible for the limited number of
5:55 USB ports on this machine. Remember that external USB devices can draw up to 7
6:00 1/2 watts each through the USB charging specification. And while the dual power
6:06 supplies confused the bananas out of my power meter, some napkin math tells us
6:10 that we're not that far off of their rated output. So then, let's answer the
6:16 big question. Was this approach worthwhile when Silverstone just
6:20 released a power supply that we featured in our most compact gaming PC V2 over
6:25 there that's cheaper, smaller, delivers
6:29 50% more power, and with some creativity
6:32 should be possible to integrate into a similar size chassis, especially if
6:35 you're willing to give up the optical drive. Well, actually, it's looking
6:40 pretty good for the G1 while being no
6:43 louder than the graphics card would be on its own. in another enclosure or even
6:47 on an open air test bench, the Predator G1 managed to turn in better thermal
6:53 performance than its bigger brother in spite of its much smaller size. Not to
6:58 mention that it's summer now versus March when we were checking out the G6.
7:04 And it did all this while being rock solid stable throughout my testing,
7:07 avoiding any and all thermal throttling on the CPU and letting the GTX 1080
7:13 boost its clocks, albeit not fully, even with a synthetic stress test running on
7:17 the CPU and the RAM concurrently.
7:20 That means that whether we're talking about light workstation use, or gaming
7:24 on a conventional screen, a G-Sync monitor, or in VR, the Predator G1 will
7:29 perform. All of which leads us then to a pretty interesting conclusion. Acer has
7:34 learned a lot over the last few years, going from poorly balanced gaming PCs
7:40 with lackluster graphics cards and overpowered CPUs with too much RAM to
7:46 correctly configured gaming PCs that unfortunately suffered from OEM grade
7:51 thermal management. all the way to this compact, no compromises mini gaming rig
7:57 that stood up to everything I could throw at it as long as I didn't want to
8:00 overclock or run the drives in RAID or
8:04 anything like that. Okay, custom still has some advantages. They still have
8:08 some things to learn about making a product really feel premium. The inside
8:14 should be black to go with the black PCB motherboard, which is a step forward in
8:18 itself, by the way. The cable should be sleeved and NVMe M.2 2 SSD should have
8:23 been included for a flagship product. And I'd like to see the next Predator
8:27 aesthetic reimagining move to more premium materials.
8:31 But with that said, the main complaints
8:34 about pre-builts from the 2000s, crappy motherboards and power supplies, limited
8:39 to no upgradability, and high prices are
8:43 quickly fading away. Which isn't to say that the Predator G1 is cheap. Okay, the
8:47 price is still high, but you're getting a lot of firepower in a surprisingly
8:52 compact little battle station if you're willing to pay for it. So, thanks for
8:58 watching, guys. If this video sucked, you know what to do. But if it was awesome, get subscribed, hit that like
9:02 button, or even check out the link to where to buy the Predator G1 in the
9:05 video description. Also linked in the description is our merch store, which
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