The WAN Show - Kids Don't Play Enough Computer Games! - October 2, 2015
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2016-05-06
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14,760 words · ~73 min read
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Okay, so new plan. We renamed the show to third times a
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charm. Yes. And this is what happened last time, folks.
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I unplugged my headphones from the audio
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device on the microphone and bam, USBB
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connection gone. Fell out of the bottom. So, we've used
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an innovative strategy called the uh the
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velcro it until you can put some tuck tape on it approach.
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I don't know if I want to touch it right now. And hopefully
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tape under it. Hopefully everything is fine from now
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until forever.
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Now until forever. We already established this isn't real wood.
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It's not wood, isn't it? Well, it feels like wood and it tastes
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like wood. But remember last time I like carried in the table. So it probably is wood.
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Wait, you tasted it? Wouldn't you have just tasted the paint?
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I guess so. Um, no. No, I think it's No, I think it's like particle board or
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something. No, we we have a real wood table, but but the table can change without us really messing up much of
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anything else. Um, I just for your knock.
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So, basically, we um well, strictly speaking,
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if you have a painted or even for that matter sealed table, does it still
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count? because you would be knocking on the paint, not knocking on the wood.
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Yeah, but I think it's kind of like the like the crater effect. Like if a
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meteorite Okay, so the the vibration from your knock goes
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the thing hits the other thing. We still say the meteor caused the crater. We
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don't say that that this particular ring of dust dispersion of the other things created.
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Yes, exactly. Exactly. It's a chain reaction. Yes. All right.
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Um so on the subject of chains, um what
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what do we got for topics? We have the Google event. So a bunch of stuff was launched there. some pretty
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interesting things. The Google The Google event. The Google event.
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The one and only Google. Uh PC is no longer the number one gaming platform
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for children. Wrecked. I hate you. Wrecked. I hate you.
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What? Justin sounds off by a little bit. Just so you know
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what the timing. It needs a delay. So delay just a little bit.
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I can't remember. I did this last. I thought it was 50. I thought it was Yeah, I thought it was
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like 50. That's not It shouldn't take too much.
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Maybe 50 to 100. Yeah. Okay, I did 50 last week and
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apparently it was fine. So, we also have Yelp for human beings. So,
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you can now rate people. I'm basically just going to do all of the
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um also T-Mobile customers were exposed
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in a major data breach. So,
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so without further ado, the intro.
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Oh crap.
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I knew I missed something. I was going to I was like waiting for
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the intro to go away and I was going to be like, "Yeah, high five. We did it right."
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Um, oh man. So, I figured out why the
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intro doesn't work because I've been using the microphone's audio device as
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system sound and then I've been telling the intro to play on system sound, but
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I've had to mute system sound in order to keep the mic from having um an echo
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because it automatically monitors itself. The problem hasn't been the audio the
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whole time. No, the intro audio worked. No, you know how sometimes the intro the audio
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doesn't work? No. Yeah, but the big problem is that the intro video wouldn't play.
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Oh, yeah, that that too. No, no, that I think I think that's the reform. We've
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reformatted the machine cuz that was one borked Windows
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installation. It was bad. To be fair, the new one's still having
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issues because of Blackmagic cards. But I think I've got that now. I think it's
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okay now. Okay. Like, I think we're good. I actually I don't know what
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caused the problem, but it hasn't happened again.
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It's that thing where you change so many things and it just starts working and
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people are like, "How did you fix it?" And you're like, "I don't know, but it's done."
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I think. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it's one of those things where that
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honestly that's the worst when you don't know what you did to fix it because that
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means it could come back at any moment and you wouldn't know why and you'd have
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to do all the 25 freaking things you did last time just to have a chance of
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fixing it again. Yes. Yeah. It's like what what chance?
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So, the the sponsors that were supposed to go on that overlay thing right there.
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Yeah. Linda.com, Squarespace, and Tunnel Bear would have normally had would have
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normally had spots, but instead, let's jump right into the show and get into
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our first freaking topic here. And this
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this is quite the topic. The original article here is from NDP, excuse me,
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NDP. Sorry, I got Canadian elections on the mind here.
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It's a big deal. npd.com. Are you dropping this in the You are dropping it
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all over the place. So, NPD, kids move away from home
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computers for gaming in droves
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in the least surprising.
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Okay. You know what? I will I will let you I'll let you go kind of through what
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we've got. So, largely what they're talking about is that the kids have moved towards
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mobile devices, which is not surprising.
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There there's the classic thing like, "Oh, do you have games on your phone?"
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Like the the question that you get from your your little nephew or niece at like
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every single family gathering ever. It it's not surprising because it's very
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easy for mom or dad to just have a game on their phone and be like, "Here, play
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with this. I need to do something." Um, one of the things that this report
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is actually talking about is that the amount of kids, like the percentage of
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kids that are playing games on mobile phones hasn't actually really increased,
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but the amount of time that they've spent playing games on mobile phones has
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increased by quite a bit. I mean, here here's a couple of Okay.
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No, I I'll let you I'll let you I'm I'm going to let you finish. I'm going to let you finish.
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Okay. Portable consoles remain popular in the age 9 to 11 group with about 41%
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of that of people in that age group playing those games. Um 45% of kids aed
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2 to 17 are gaming on a home computer down 22% since 2013. So that's actually
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changed a lot. Um that's pretty
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surprising. But I don't think as many
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kid games are coming out right now for
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PC compared to That's an interesting point. I didn't even think about that because I I I had
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some other factors in my mind that I thought were probably contributing to
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this. But now that I think about it, I mean, okay, it's also possible that you
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and I just aren't really exposed to. This is why I said that and then looked
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directly at you the ways that we used to be because like I don't I can't even think
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of where to buy kids games. Like I'm sure they have them on Steam.
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You can you can often get them at like the big box store stuff like uh big box.
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Uh big box store. Um, I remember like I
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think Staples and Best Buy stuff will have like the Leaprog.
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Is that really a PC game?
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Cuz they usually try and sell their own stupid things. Oh, I see.
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This is This was back when I was working there, though. So, this has been a
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while. Yeah, it's kind of like five years ago. No, I know. But that but that's from
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2013, so that's a little bit after I was working there. So, like it's still
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within the realm. But I'm just trying to think like when I was shopping for a
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game as a kid. It was like I mean you
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kind of look at how the demographics of gaming have changed as the kids who grew
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up playing video games. Hello. Um became adults and oh it turns out games aren't
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just you know kid crap. It turns out that when you grow up playing video
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games you might still play video games. Um to be fair though even when I was
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growing up for kids games that like basically what I'm going to put under
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kids games is like stuff that my mom would let me get when I was in these
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kind of age groups. A lot of them were mobile or console stuff. A lot of it was
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Nintendo, right? And Nintendo has been like kind of not
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really wanting to go towards mobile stuff, whether or not you think that's a good idea. But other people have been
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going into the mobile space really heavily for kids games. So, kids games
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already not being super huge on PC to be completely honest. I remember like like
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Kickstart and all this kind of stuff when I was a kid. Yeah. D Park Tycoon and Oregon Trail and
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all that all that kind of crap. Yeah. like you could go and shop for PC games
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as a kid and there would be like tons of options and then for like the really
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sort of adultoriented stuff there'd be like Leisure Suit Larry like on a high
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up shelf somewhere and you know or you'd have like your you
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know when I was I guess I would have been in my teens at this point so stuff
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like you know your never winter nights never winter nights too like awesome games
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so so so all this stuff existed but there was an awful lot that was very
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kid-friendly whereas now and now and now like what do you do you
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you a lot I know a lot of people jetack Joyide even exist for the PC?
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I don't know. Unless it's like Flash. It's probably in the Windows Store. I
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bet it is. There you go. Yeah, I'm going to check the Windows Store. Um like like Okay, to be completely fair
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with some of the stuff on Steam with kids in a certain age group, I don't
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even know if I'd necessarily want them seeing the Steam store just because of
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the stuff that might go through the sale page. Yep. Um, so like I could understand a
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kid not having Steam and with the vast majority of PC stuff happening on Steam
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these days, I don't know. I kind of get
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it. I'm not super surprised by this statistic.
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Um, there were a couple other comments that I had here that were sort of
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unrelated to that. So number one is Oh.
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Oh yeah. Okay. So number one is, um, now that I have kids, I get to make all
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these like observations about children and seem insightful, but actually I just
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have no choice. you have to supervise them or they'll kill themselves. Um, so
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human babies mimicking so crap mimicking parents is a huge factor. And
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the article actually actually brings this up is that mom and dad are likely
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performing a lot of tasks on their phones now that they would have
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traditionally had to do on a computer. And junior or juniorette or whatever.
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What would you junior? What's the equivalent? I don't think there is one. Isn't Junior just Isn't
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that No, I don't think he used Junior Junior for a female.
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I think it's I think it's commonly used as a male thing. But is Junior actually
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not gender neutral? I don't think so. But junior just mean like
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cuz no one names their daughter after their mom. I have literally never heard
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of that once. So in order to be junior, you'd have to be
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But you could be like a junior engineer. I mean,
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and that's a gender neutral term. No, no, that is. But but in terms of the
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name junior like like it's it's it's
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Indiana. It's it's it's Dr. Jones senior. Dr. Jones Jr. like it's not.
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Yeah. I I think No, I'm pretty sure it's gender specific. Is that just because like no one does it
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perhaps? Or is that because it's actually gender specific? Although I mean now that
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there's so many unisex names, you know, whether it's, you know, your Taylor or
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your Lesie or whatever else, in theory,
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assuming I had a unisex name, which Lionus really isn't, um, any name that
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actually has an alternate meaning in Urban Dictionary as, you know, male
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genitals, probably it will never be a unisex name. Um, so let's say my name
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was something appropriate. Does every guy's name reference that? Because mine does too. On everybody,
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you're Luke. Yeah, I guess. Um, no, not all. Well, no, it it means it
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it's the first definition for mine, though. Yeah. Is yours even the first definition? Cuz
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just cuz it's like No, it doesn't mean like that directly.
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It means a size of that. Wow. So, where I was going with this was
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I could technically name my daughter Lionus Jr.,
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right? If my name were unisex. And I I guess
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but people would assume they're a boy for sure. or just even just junior would
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assume like if your nickname is junior you would assume it's a boy.
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Um so where where was I going with this? Right. Mimicking parents. So like you
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know my my son and daughter are both phone whiz kids like compared to their
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ages of course. You know my daughter's one. So the fact that she like knows how
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to try to type in a passcode and like unlock things and open apps is kind of
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impressive. It means I spend too much time on my phone in front of her for one
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thing. Um, and they don't see me use the desktop computer nearly as much anymore
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because I've switched to almost entirely using my laptop or my phone whenever
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they're around because when do I have time to sit down at a desktop? Yeah.
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Um, and then number two, and I think this is actually I don't think the
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article mentioned this, but I personally think this is a huge factor is
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handme-down phones because even three years ago, you know, two
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years ago, three years ago, four years ago, 5 years ago, every year the number
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of very capable, still very usable,
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handme-down mobile devices explodes
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because you look at the growth of how many of these devices are selling. And
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then there was that period where they all kind of sucked. Like iPad 1, iPhone
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3GS, uh Galaxy S1, like all that stuff
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was just kind of rubbish. But we're at the point now where anything from I'd
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say an iPhone 4 to iPhone 4S, Galaxy S3
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or so and up is still today and you know
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a few years old device now is still a very usable device today and there's no
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reason to throw it away. So what would I
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do? Am I going to buy my kids the new iPhone, you know, 6S? No. Uh, would I
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necessarily object to throwing them my old iPhone 4 to dink around with?
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Probably not. So, I would imagine that compared to the investment of buying a
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mobile game console, dedicated mobile game console with $60 games,
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I would imagine the inclination for parents is, oh, well, this thing's got lots of games on it and it's just
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sitting in a drawer anyway. Here you go. Yeah. So, I think that's probably a huge
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factor there as well. Yeah, I would be surprised. Like, no.
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Yeah, this is interesting. It's not like, oh my god, I can't believe they're
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playing less PC games now,
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but it's it's still interesting. It's still interesting. It's just it
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just is kind of what it is. Someone clarified, I haven't looked at Urban Dictionary in like a very long
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time, but apparently it's different now, just in case you wanted to know.
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Um Oh, well, okay then. That's great.
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What's going on? Uh, I don't know. I'm just checking a thing. I actually I This
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is like a new version of XSplit that I haven't used recently. Yeah. And so
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someone's saying something about 24 FPS and I really don't think it's running at
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24 FPS, but I have actually no way of verifying that.
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Uh, you could
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No, you know what? I know. No, I know it's not bring up the flash properties. No, no, I know it's not. I'm sure. Okay.
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So, let's go ahead and move on to our next topic here, shall we? Yes.
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Ah, yes. The spec reading event, the Google. Yeah. The the the reading of
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specifications for you exclusively here on the WAN
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show. Except not exclusively. Yeah. Except everyone and their dog has
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covered this. So, let's try and blow through it pretty quick here. Nexus 5X specs. 5.2 in IPS LCD 1920 x
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1080 Corning Gorilla Grass 3. Snapdragon 808 2 GB of DDR3 RAM. Stock Android 6.0
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Marshmallow with Google Now on tap. 16 GB and 32 GB versions available,
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non-expandable 12.3 megapixel dual LED flash camera, 2,160p video capture, 5
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megapixel selfie camera, fingerprint sensor on the back, USB type-C, Android
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Pay, Wi-Fi, 802.11 AC, Bluetooth 4.2,
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stereo speakers on the front with three microphones, 2,700 millah battery,
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black, white, and blue different colors. Ships in October. 16 Gigabyte version
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cost $379. 32 GB version cost $429.
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Bam. All right. Fascinating. Thanks for that. Great
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reporting. No, no problem.
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All right. There's some new features of Android 6.0. Uh faster access to voice
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activation. Uh there's a charging speed indicator. Holy freaking crap. How did
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that take so long? Do you know? Do you know when I was trying to do my video on
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quick charge 2.0? Do you know what I had to do?
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Did I tell you what I had to do? No. Oh, it was ridiculous. So, I had to get all
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my different chargers, which by the way, everyone mislabels. False advertising
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all over the place on the output of chargers. That's what actually inspired
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that little uh that little ammeter that I got for USB ports that I showed on
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Handytech because they're all over the freaking map. So, what I had to do was I
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had to get all these different chargers of each type. I had to charge the phone.
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So, I had to get the phone down to like I think it was like 2% because if I let
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it go below that, it would turn off and then I would have to do a power on cycle
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while charging which would affect the charging speed during the critical low
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battery time when it takes best advantage of quick charging features.
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So, I had to get it down to like two or 3% or something like that. So, I had to
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be like sitting there watching it with a game running like, "Oh, we're getting
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there. We're getting there. Okay. Okay. Do something less. Turn off the flash now. Now, just the game. Okay, turn off
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the game now. Just max screen brightness. Okay, screen brightness. Okay, we're there. We're there. Okay,
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quick, plug it in. Then I had to plug it in before it turned off. Then I just had
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to like set notificially,
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very quickly, so I could turn it off right away so it could charge on its own. And then I had to just create Excel
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graphs out of my samples that I took. It was horrible. And all of this just to
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find out if these features were working
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as intended. So ghetto. So now there's just an indicator.
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It makes sense. It's just very ghetto. Yeah. I It worked.
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Yep. Yep. Yep. Faster scrolling and search. Uh ondevice
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predictive app launching so it learns your patterns and places. Um so goodbye
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AV8. Yeah, I guess. Uh runtime permissions,
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less bloatware for the Nexus lineup and uh
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that's good. So updates coming to previous Nex devices.
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Yeah, the 56 uh 2013 7 and the 9. What
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is it? Next week. Yeah, next week. So, um there you go. Everyone
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else, you know, whether you got a Galaxy S6 Active or a Droid Turbo,
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screw you, buddy.
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I love how they do that. It's just the worst.
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And it's like it's all It's not really all anyone's fault. It's all a lot of
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people's faults. It's all Google's fault. It's all the handset makaker's
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fault. And it's especially all the carriers fault. It's all of their
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faults. Just cut this crap out. Apple had the right idea. Let's just let's
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just all get on board. Oh, cool. There's a music family plan for 15 bucks a month
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for up to six people. Oh my god. Can you do that? And then can
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I just You are not a family member. Can I be?
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Can you adopt me? Wow. That's not awkward.
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Um, okay. First, no. And then, uh,
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but I want to Google Play. I want to save like $8 a month.
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It is kind of awesome. I I kind of love it. I probably will upgrade to a family
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plan. Um, so I guess nothing would prevent you from being part of my family
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at that point. Yay. Yay. If I I mean, okay, if I ever
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personally got like software license audited,
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then I guess who's this? Saw Luke Lafrenier. Is he a relative of yours?
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Well, he's got white skin like me, so we probably have a common ancestor
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somewhere eventually if you go back far enough. You know, also our uh our Lukes are
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similar sizes. So, uh you know, probably
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a well-endowed ancestor probably did a lot of mating on account of his, you
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know, you know,
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you want to see it. Wow. Like, no. No, it's okay. The license is
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fine. 14.99 is not worth it.
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Identity verification based on similarities of Luke's.
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Yeah. People are like, "What? Your name is
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actually Lionus?" Uh, yes. I wish I'd
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had the foresight to adopt a screen name. I'd have gone with Dirk Diggler.
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Oh my goodness. Oh, terrible. Uh, okay. Okay, so there's some Chcast stuff. Finally, 5 GZ Wi-Fi.
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You know, funny story. I have had my Chcast sitting plugged into the back of
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my receiver since it came out. Um,
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because I didn't have a USB power port on my receiver when I plugged it in. I
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was like, "Oh, I'll have to kind of deal with this later." And I just left the USB cable hanging out the back of my
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cabinet. I finally hooked it up two days ago.
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and I used it and I was like, "Oh yeah, this would have been cool to be using
21:15
all this time uh because I actually changed out my receiver." So, this is
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kind of funny. Um, I posted this on Instagram a little while ago. LG sent
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over a 65 in OLED TV for not a review.
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I'm not going to call it a review because it's not what it's going to be, but it's going to be like what is it
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like? Because this is state-of-the-art crap. It's curved OLED. uh huge. It's
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Yeah, it's actually It's kind It's kind of magnificent. The bezels are like
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this. I'm just like, "Wow, it wouldn't even matter if it didn't have bezels at
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all because the or if it had huge bezels even because the the black of the black
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is the same as the black of the Anyway, um so I so I posted on Instagram. I was
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like, "Great news. Awesome new TV.
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Terrible news. My receiver doesn't have HDMI 2.0, show. So, I will be running at
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1080p for now. Um, so LG was actually
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like, "Oh, well, just get a receiver and
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we'll comp you for it." And I was like, "Okay,
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sure." So, I was like, so I hooked that up. So, that's why I was hooking up the
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chcast. And then, um, so yeah, now apparently that's pointless. So, there's
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a new antenna system. Uh, NBA, NHL, and other partners coming in the fall. Sling
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TV will be available if you're into that sort of thing. I don't think Sling is
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even supported in Canada, is it? I don't think so. Yeah. So,
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oh Canada, your content is inferior.
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Although we do have some things on Netflix. You have lots of fresh water.
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Nestle. Nestle. No, not Nestle water. I don't
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want to talk about Nestle water. It's like we have to I mean a lot of the
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times. See, now you're going to get me started on Nestle water. So, we have to
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get into this stuff when it's actually like techreated because it's like
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because it's a tech show. But I try to avoid this kind of crap when it's when
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it's not techreated. But so, so in a nutshell, basically Nestle figured that
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um well, not Nestle, the particular person at Nestle, although they're high up enough that they can be considered a
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spokesperson. Yeah. Figured that that water was not a right.
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And I forget what the word used was, but calling water not a human right is
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ridiculous. And people should have to pay for water was was the other thing.
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And you know what I have to say to that, Nestle? First of all, screw you. And
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second of all, your water sucks. Yeah, it's terrible. It's calling that spring
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water. Like you Okay, you guys, even if you don't realize it, you've probably
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you've probably drank Nestle water. There are the ones that come in the
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bottles about yay big. Okay. They they're like ribbed bottles.
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Crappy tops. Yeah. They have the really crappy clear translucent plastic top. They crinkle a
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lot when you when you when you press on them. And they taste like pool water.
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That's how you can tell Nestle water because it tastes like I went over to
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Luke's house, dipped a cup in his pool right after a fresh chlorination
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treatment, dumped it in my in my, you
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know, flask or whatever and chug that stuff like a like a champion. Your flask
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that's like already made of the leakiest plastic ever that's like chemicals into
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water. Yeah. Like it's horrible. Most of the tap water in the lower mainland is way
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better than that Nestle water. So get
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wrecked, Nestle. Um
24:42
the whole Twitch chat isn't even responding to really what you were saying. They're all just like Luke has a
24:46
pool. I love you guys. Twitch chat. Uh there's
24:50
a new Chromebook or something. The chcast audio is super cool.
24:54
Oh yeah. Do you want to talk about that? So we can jump down. Where did it go?
24:58
Way to go. There it is. So it's a different device. It's not actually like built into the
25:03
chcast. And actually if you go to the article
25:07
uh the Android police article. Is that
25:10
the one that's in there? Oh, sorry. I don't think I ever actually brought it up. My bad.
25:14
I'll Android Central. I'll post a different one.
25:17
Oh, wait. Under on the dock. Go to that and then
25:22
I'm going to post that in chat as well. Go to your face because I want to show everyone a
25:26
picture and see what you guys think about this. Go to Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So,
25:30
does that because of the I know it's because of the shadows because of the photo, but does that not look like a
25:34
Beats logo? It's the Chrome logo, but it super looks
25:37
like a Beats logo. It's super duper. When I first saw it, I was like, "What?
25:41
Beats? Why?" And then figured out that it's just because of the lighting.
25:45
There's a better shot down low where you can actually see it,
25:48
but it Yeah, I was I was pretty disappointed and then realized I was
25:52
just seeing it improperly. So, basically, the idea is that you can plug
25:57
whatever speaker into it and it's just like a way better version than those
26:02
like crap usually craptastic
26:05
uh Bluetooth dongles that people have been using to do this for quite a while
26:08
now because it should just work way better than that.
26:11
Huh, that's funny. I I can't really imagine what could be so bad about those
26:15
dongles. I have an HTC one that I was that I was playing around with cuz I'm
26:19
actually planning to do a video with some some car stuff that I'm doing with
26:23
my car and that that was one of the things I was going to do. Um and your car it would be fine.
26:28
It was fine. The nice thing about this is it's a Wi-Fi device, not a Bluetooth device. So
26:33
you can go in it and be like play this and then walk away or disconnect and
26:37
it's fine. So that's a huge improvement over the
26:40
Bluetooth dongles. Uh, it's a Wi-Fi device, so you wouldn't really use it in
26:45
your car, I don't. Yeah. I can't think of any reason that I would need to do that.
26:48
No. Um, cool beans. It's kind of nice because it's a Wi-Fi
26:52
device, so you can like kind of swap between people fairly easily and
26:56
whatnot, right? Um, which would be kind of cool to do in
26:59
the car and you could theoretically do it in the car if you have some way of
27:02
like creating an Wi-Fi network, which should be pretty easy if you have a
27:05
phone, but it's like not really the intended use case, right? Um, I think
27:11
it's pretty cool. Um, I could see a lot of people using this thing. It's it's it
27:16
falls within the same realm as the chcast for me because it's like it's not
27:20
a crazy thing. Cheap, cheerful, functional.
27:23
Yeah. Very cost effective for what it does and will probably work quite well.
27:28
All right, so let's talk about things that worked quite well. This is a
27:33
fantastic looking app. I am really looking forward to when this puppy comes
27:37
out of uh out of uh out on the App Store
27:40
and the Google Play Store. This is described as Yelp for people and it'll
27:47
actually let you rate people in much the same way that you could rate a
27:52
restaurant or a store or whatever else the case may be. So, imagine this.
27:56
You're buying something on Craigslist. Someone replies and their name is like I
28:01
don't know. You're buying something on Craigslist and what you're buying happens to be a person and they're
28:04
rated. Wait, what? No. So, the person you're buying from happens to be a one Josh
28:08
Smith, for example, and you uh and you
28:11
look this guy up and you kind of go, "Well, gee, he's got a review from he's
28:16
got a twostar review from Lionus for being uh for being tall and obnoxious
28:21
and a fivestar review from Luke for being a sexy beast of a man."
28:24
So, you know, he's got only a three and a half star average rating here. I don't
28:28
think I want to sell to this guy. Can you imagine how useful that would be?
28:32
Now, imagine a world where everyone with, you know, who wasn't the popular
28:37
kid in high school could have all the other students in their class post
28:41
negative reviews about what a crabtastic person they are. And then that person
28:45
actually wouldn't have any way to remove their profile or those reviews. What a
28:51
future. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully you guys have picked up
28:54
the sarcasm at this point. co- uh co-founders Julia Cordray and Nicole
29:00
McCullo, I hope I said that right, uh insist the app exists to promote
29:04
positive feeling. I don't think they understand how the
29:09
internet works. As two empathetic female
29:12
entrepreneurs in the tech space, we want to spread love and positivity. I
29:15
appreciate that message. Um
29:19
but welcome to the internet. Um that's
29:23
probably not going to be how things are going to work. They have some things
29:26
kind of in place to try to help against this, but I think the administration of
29:30
said things is going to be pretty insane. Impossible. Um, once you register, negative reviews
29:34
or sorry, if you don't create a profile, but others are rating you, only positive
29:39
reviews will be posted. So, that's an interesting thing to note.
29:43
Um, but I wonder if there's comments that go along with the stars. And a
29:47
positive review could contain all kinds of hateful stuff in the comments
29:50
because you could be like five five star bleep bleep bleep hate this person.
29:54
Yeah. And like this is like crazy stuff. So you have 48 hours after someone posts
29:58
a negative review of you. You have 48 hours to dispute it if you've
30:02
registered, which is like, so what? I have to be So I have to be sitting
30:06
around policing the reviews of me on on
30:10
the people app in order to you know what really scares me about
30:13
this kind of stuff too is um we did it
30:17
Reddit. Do you know what I mean by that? Like
30:21
every time that Reddit is like, "Oh wow, we found the guy that did like the
30:25
Boston bombing." and it turns out to totally be the wrong person and they
30:29
send like hateful emails and stuff to their family and they get really angry
30:33
at all this kind of stuff. Like the internet just zergrushing the wrong
30:36
person could actually be a really bad thing with this app.
30:40
I think we can all agree that the justice system regardless of which
30:43
country you live in could probably use a little help. It ain't perfect. It can be
30:48
bloated. It can be slow. That civilians helping is a good thing.
30:51
Civilians helping is a good thing. But there is also a reason a lot of the time
30:56
for the the due diligence and the sort
31:00
of methodical uh nature that sometimes gets mistaken
31:04
as being slow and bloated um that the real system goes through because the
31:09
kind of I mean honestly it is enough for
31:12
someone to be to be uh you know I had a teacher once that was pushed out of his
31:17
job at a particular school simply because of an accusation
31:22
not because anything was ever proven or any charges were ever even laid. An
31:27
accusation is all it takes to color people's view of another person. It's
31:31
just how we are. If if you're accused of something or whatever and you totally didn't do it,
31:36
the first Google result is still going to be the accusation. It'll always be that article blah blah
31:40
blah charges laid for, you know, which is why a lot of the times they
31:43
keep the names anonymous until they're fully Yeah. A lot of the times.
31:47
Not always. Not always. Um, so I don't know what
31:51
else there is to I I don't really know what else there's. We'll see what happens once it comes
31:54
out. May maybe there will be some weird impossible beam of hope that keeps it a
31:58
positive app. But knowing the internet,
32:02
I seriously doubt it. Yeah. And honestly, it's going to become, for lack of a
32:06
better term, a circle jerk for certain people. Like you said, the popular kid
32:09
at school is going to have the greatest rating everywhere because everyone wants
32:12
to rate him publicly or her publicly so that that person thinks that they like
32:17
them. so that hopefully they'll be in good spots and then the if that person
32:22
doesn't like someone then it's going to be negative flow and like it's just
32:26
going to be a crazy popularity contest I think. Do you want to hear something crazy? It
32:30
actually took me about 15 to 20 seconds to realize what a horrible idea this was
32:35
because I am so accustomed to not having any privacy anyway.
32:39
Yeah. that I don't actually necessarily think about that aspect of of a social
32:45
network or an app or whatever the case may be right away. So, I'm used to
32:51
people being able to leave a review of me anywhere they want
32:55
and like I don't care cuz we're used to that. But like some people will not
33:01
and that's their right. That's their right. I as an adult knowingly and
33:05
willingly gave up my a lot of my privacy. I kind of didn't knowingly and
33:10
willingly. You were like, "Hey, bro, film a video." And I was like, "All
33:14
right, but it's fine. Welcome to the plan show,
33:18
but like I I I knew that going into this." And it was fine.
33:22
And here you are now with like the fact that you have a pool being big news.
33:31
Yes. My my parents pool. We don't have the pool anymore. It got torn down this
33:36
summer. Oh, I actually did. Okay. I did not know that. So, do I think that there is
33:41
potential? I mean, we've talked a lot about anonymity and people people's
33:47
rights surrounding it and the and the benefits to other people of less
33:51
anonymity in a lot of cases. Um, can I
33:55
think of situations where this would be
34:00
useful for me to know that that person
34:03
doesn't return tools when you lend them to them or whatever else?
34:08
Like I can think of I can think of a thousand ways this would be useful,
34:13
but I can't think of a single way that
34:16
it would be useful to someone
34:20
for their own account. like like I don't I can't think of anything someone could
34:23
say about me on my own account like like in a review that would benefit me. So So
34:28
people could say like, "Oh yeah, he's kind of like he kind of talks over
34:32
people." Like when that loot guy was trying to talk like 20 seconds ago, he
34:35
just kept on going like a freight train. I freaking hate that guy.
34:39
Register it anymore. Sorry, I saw it, but I was I was just
34:44
going to finish this point and then hand it to you. Um, like I can see that being
34:49
useful information for other people to have, but I don't want them to I don't want them that to be the first thing
34:53
they know about me. That's a huge part of it is like I have an opportunity to make a a good
34:58
first impression, right? So, why should they why should they get,
35:03
you know, all the skeletons in the closet right off the bat? I mean,
35:07
shouldn't I get a chance to get to know these people? Maybe I have other redeeming qualities, you know, and we're
35:12
relying on user reviews, which quite frankly, look at how broken user reviews
35:16
are, you know, for things as simple as a freaking USB cable on Amazon. And
35:21
something as complex as a human, you're going to trust other people to review them.
35:25
One thing that I worry about, too, is like timed sniping. This is what I was
35:28
trying to say earlier is like, oh, they're going on a hiking trip or a
35:32
business trip or something. They're swapping out their SIM. It's based on
35:35
your phone number. They're doing something that they wouldn't be able to take advantage of the 40 48 hour window.
35:40
Let's leave some inflammatory stuff,
35:43
right? Right. Yep. I can I can see people getting
35:47
trolled like that. Yeah, that's not working. Someone wanted me to
35:50
move it to the top right and it didn't happen. We will at some point.
35:54
Yep. Um Okay. Oh, we should do our uh we
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Someone was listening to a podcast the other day and there was a Squarespace ad
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they I know who the sponsor is. Think of the sponsor when they
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when they want to build a website. They're not supposed to think of you
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All right, we've actually got we could probably run the show for another two
40:39
hours because a lot of topics. I think we might have to just rapidfire
40:44
as many of these as we can. Uh so why don't we why don't we start with the um
40:48
the ZDNet uh the ZDNet article. Did you drop it in the Twitch chat already?
40:52
No. You want to do that? Uh, sure. Yeah, I'll do it. Go ahead. Okay, so it's suspected that a mobile
40:57
advertising network has been used to do a site with hundreds of thousands of
41:01
smartphone browsers, which is actually like kind of insane. Cloudflare stated
41:06
that one customer is hit by 4.5 billion
41:09
page requests over a few hours. Most of the smartphone browsers are on Chinese
41:14
IPs. It's apparently a browser to go China.
41:17
Wow. Not the point. Um
41:22
um apparently it's a browserbased layer 7 or application layer uh flood attack.
41:28
They've been viewed as theoretical in this way for several years but haven't
41:32
become a reality until now due to difficulties in efficiently distributing
41:36
malicious JavaScript code. But that's where the advertising network comes in.
41:40
The browser attack peaked at over 20 uh 2,000 or 275,000 HTTP requests per
41:48
second. 80% from mobile devices, 98% from
41:54
Chinese IPs. Way to go, China.
41:58
Not the point. Again, not the point at all. It's probably just
42:03
It was probably just a hijacked advertising network that was within
42:06
China. It's not It's not Way to go, China.
42:10
Wow. Okay, that's probably about it. That's
42:13
intense. But T-Mobile customers exposed in major
42:17
Experian data breach.
42:21
All right, so here we go. Bloating up the original article here on the
42:24
verge.com. Did you post the link already? We got this. Okay,
42:29
so uh yeah, I mean I'm not going to say
42:33
that the fact that like everyone gets breached makes us feel any better about
42:39
the breach that we had on the forum, but it kind of does. There's actually been
42:43
some pretty ridiculous stuff in the last little bit.
42:46
All I'm saying is this is why we didn't store financial
42:51
data. Yep. This is I mean a lot of people have asked us why the only payment method we
42:56
accept through the forum is PayPal and it's because it's PayPal's problem.
43:02
We do not want your credit card. I don't want to touch that at all. Ever.
43:05
I never want to see your credit card and your credit card. You don't want to show
43:10
me your credit card. you don't want to do it because that is not the kind of
43:14
stuff that we want to be responsible for. I mean honestly it's it's it's
43:18
enough for us that we have you know name data and stuff like that and that wasn't
43:21
even what was compromised for us anyway. Uh even if we had stored credit cards
43:26
that wouldn't have been compromised but
43:30
we still don't want it ever. Yeah. Uh, so 15 million Americans were
43:37
affected and the breach revealed names, addresses, and social security numbers.
43:43
I mean, to put that in context, that's uh about three and a half to 4% of the
43:48
United States population and definitely enough information to
43:51
steal your identity. Yes. Uh, it's unclear how many other
43:54
companies were involved in the breach, but no banking or credit card information seems to have been leaked.
44:00
your name, address, and social security number, so they could probably get your
44:04
banking information. Now, with that said, the social security numbers were being stored in encrypted
44:08
files, but it is not clear if that encryption has been compromised.
44:12
Okay. Okay. So, um, do we know how they were encrypted?
44:16
Uh, no, I don't actually 100%. I don't
44:20
think that's in the article or anything, but how they were encrypted would
44:23
actually give some insight as to whether because if it's like some crapastic form
44:27
of encryption, they probably have them, but if it's a
44:31
little bit more advanced, then I don't know. I don't think it's in here. It's
44:35
not. But all right. Oh well. By the year 2050, this actually ties in
44:41
pretty well to something we were talking about last week. Uh, human on robot sex
44:47
could be more common than human on human
44:51
sex. Again, I find this not very surprising.
44:54
Um, at the very least just because of like
44:58
masturbation statistics. People probably get off by themselves
45:02
more than they get off with a partner throughout
45:05
their lifespan. Ah, throughout speak for yourself.
45:11
I don't know. I actually I wonder
45:15
right like in in a still in a relationship you probably like sometimes
45:20
I don't know. Yeah. Speak for yourself man. Theo differences. Mine's pretty.
45:27
I don't know. All right. So this is the tmi edition of
45:31
the women's show. Um I I mean I didn't uh
45:37
uh Yeah. I don't know. So, what they're saying is by 2030 most people will have
45:41
some form of virtual sex. They're saying as casually as they browse porn today.
45:46
That's kind of interesting. That's 15 years from now. And
45:51
uh the consumer version one is coming out pretty soon.
45:56
Did you say 15 years from now? No. No. 35.
46:00
What? 2030. Oh, 2030. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. No, this isn't for robots. They're just
46:04
saying virtual sex. So like VR. So, so, so VR, I mean, what would you consider
46:08
to be VR VR sex? Because you wouldn't even necessarily need like a USB
46:14
accessory and a VR headset. It could just be a matter of touching yourself
46:18
with a headset on and that could be like a a virtual sexual experience.
46:22
I think that's what they're saying there. Yeah. Okay.
46:25
Because in 5 years after that, they say 2035, the majority of people will own
46:29
sex toys that interact with VR in some form. I mean, they're also being very loose
46:33
and easy with their wording here. They super are um saying things like most people,
46:39
excuse me, most people. Yeah. Most people in 15 years probably still
46:44
won't even have like decent internet connections. I was just going to say you
46:47
mean most people. Um like most people in first world
46:50
countries who also kind of at least somewhat like technology.
46:53
Outdated term. Sorry. Uh developed nations. That's like honestly I think
46:57
that one's worse. No, the first world and third world is actually like a cold
47:02
war. It's a cold war term. Oh wow. Yeah. Right. It has like some weird meanings.
47:07
Yes. Um and then yeah, it's like what group you're a part
47:10
of. And then honestly though, I think the connotation of developed versus
47:14
developing countries is way worse. That's like that's like saying like I'm
47:19
not even necessarily true because in a quote unquote developed country there's
47:22
probably more science and development going on.
47:26
Um well well that's exactly it. Being
47:29
you're never developed I think is the point. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Um,
47:33
and like even if you look at infrastructure, we're still improving. And calling someone else like
47:36
developing. Like that's honestly that's the kind of thing I could see that
47:40
turning into like a playground insult. It's like Yeah. That's the developing
47:43
kid. You know what I mean? Like that's that's exactly when you're at the UN or whatever.
47:47
Yeah. Exactly. Right. Right. Can you can you just imagine like all
47:51
the ambassadors? Yeah. Developing developing.
47:54
Oh, don't worry about him. He's just developing. He's just developing. Like that's brutal.
47:58
That's rough. Um, so anyway, so, so, um, less affluent countries, why
48:03
don't we say that? Sure. Um, um, and and then they're saying again
48:08
with the the loose terminology, robot sex to overtake human to human in 2050,
48:13
but like maybe. Yeah, maybe. I mean, that's that is some
48:18
crystal balls stuff right there. A lot of this is kind of crystal balls
48:22
stuff. Um, I wonder if anyone has two. Anyways, um apparently the sex toy
48:27
market has been growing by 6% every year, but it doesn't h specify for how
48:31
many years. Again, a lot of this is a little up in the air. Um yeah, I don't I
48:36
don't I don't really find this all that surprising.
48:39
Like even just porn is becoming much more easy for people in the public to
48:43
talk about. Uh there's been protests in what the UK against porn being banned
48:48
and like people went out without masks to protest it. Like it's it's becoming
48:52
much less taboo these days. So, as that becomes much less taboo with Pornhub,
48:57
they should have gone out without pants to protest it. Didn't I think some people like
49:00
I probably did. Yeah. Um, with Pornhub releasing like
49:04
the twerking butt thing. Did you see that? That was hilarious. Like like it's it's becoming a like you
49:10
can laugh about it. It's becoming more mainstream. People are making jokes about it. People are talking about it
49:14
publicly. Um, Game of Thrones is pretty much Game of Thrones is like,
49:20
"Wow." Like, there's some pretty racy porn on some pretty there's some pretty
49:23
mainream ancestral relationships like it gets it gets pretty pretty intense on there. Um
49:29
so like I don't know it's becoming very not weird. So if you if you give it that
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trend and that continuation and then until what 2050 they're talking about
49:39
like okay wouldn't be that surprised.
49:42
Yeah. I mean I I still have some I still have sort of some concerns about that. I
49:48
mean and I think Futurama covered it pretty well. I think it could lead to
49:52
less relationships, but at the same time, we have an overpopulation issue. So, like, is that really that big of a
49:56
problem? Yeah. Yeah. So, basically, we'll just weed ourselves out until
50:00
we not as many anymore. And I guess that'll be a thing.
50:04
Um, Tesla unveils the Model X.
50:09
Yeah. Speaking of sex, we've got the Model S, the Model 3, and
50:14
a couple different levels. Oh, yeah. And it's sexy, right? Good
50:17
job. Uh, did you did you post this yet? I'm working on it. Okay. So, that is what it looks like,
50:22
which surprises absolutely no one at all. Yep. Since this has been teased many, many
50:27
times, literally seen one. We've literally seen one in person.
50:31
There's been minor changes since there have been tweaks. Y
50:34
or twerks as it were. See, look at its butt.
50:42
H. Do you want to give us the rundown? Okay. So, there's a bunch of different
50:45
things that people are talking about. There's stuff that we've already known for a long time, but I'm going to go
50:48
through some of the quotes and specs here first. Uh they say it's the safest,
50:52
fastest, and most capable sports utility vehicle in history. That's actually not
50:56
super surprising considering what they did for the Model S. Uh shares DNA with
51:01
the top-of-the-line Model S P90D, which
51:04
is pretty epic. Uh standard with all-wheel drive and a 90 kilowatt hour
51:09
battery providing 250 mi of range.
51:13
Sorry. Uh performance and standard models available. P90D and 90D. It has
51:18
seven seats, which is Is that a lot? That's a lot, right? I only look at
51:23
sedans. I don't know. I used to five being a lot.
51:29
Not even a lot. That's just standard.
51:32
The seven standard. No. Well, in an SUV, yes.
51:36
There we go. All right. So, it's not necessarily a lot. 0 to 60 in as little
51:41
as 3.2 seconds in your family car, which is fantastic.
51:44
That's hilarious. Uh, same as a Koigg CCX4.7
51:48
V8, although your top speed is not going to be the same.
51:52
Yeah, it's limited to 155 miles an hour. It's about 200 km an hour. Although,
51:55
frankly, you shouldn't be driving your kids around at 200 km an hour anyway.
51:59
Yes. Yeah. Um, this is cool. The Falcon Wing doors.
52:03
No, those are neat, I guess. But the boweapon defense mode
52:07
is freaking I love how they name things. No, seriously. There's like there's like
52:12
a fresh air, a recirculate air, and then
52:15
a biohazard symbol button that is
52:18
apparently u it uses a an air filter
52:22
that is 10 times larger than a normal car's air filter that's designed to keep
52:26
you safe in any situation where the air quality is questionable. This is going
52:31
to be a standard feature on every car in China
52:34
in like the next like 6 to 8 years. Oh,
52:38
you could quote me on that one because that is like if you can have a
52:43
filtration system in your home and a filtration system in your car. If you
52:46
live in Beijing, you probably should. Yep. Yep. Uh when the car is operating
52:52
Yes. When the car is operating at max capacity, we can't even detect any
52:56
viruses or bacteria or spores. It's like
52:59
zero. You keep on clicking around. I can't read it because your name thing's
53:02
in the way. It goes on the Google doc. I I mean I
53:06
mean who else who else does this? Who else does this? Does anyone else while you're reading? Do you just kind of like
53:12
do this? But on my screen, wherever his cursor is, it also has a line up and then says
53:17
here, I'll move mine. So yeah, I can I can see it. Yeah. So see how it says the name. So it like
53:21
it's covering multiple words at a time and then moving around while I'm trying.
53:26
There's cursor wars on Google.
53:30
Be the most boring episode of anything ever. Um, anyways, it's like zero that
53:36
came through. If there's ever an apocalyptic scenario of some god damn of
53:40
some kind, hypothetically, you just press the bioweapon defense button. This
53:45
is a real button. Yeah, we're trying to be a leader in apocalyptic defense
53:48
scenarios. Uh, only a leader for the
53:52
extraordinarily rich and elite. However, the 90D starts at $132,000
53:59
and the P90D starts at $142,000.
54:04
So, I won't be buying one of these for my family vehicle anytime soon.
54:08
I don't see it on here, but I thought they were saying something about uh
54:12
fitting within guidelines for like hospital quarantine rooms or something.
54:16
Oh, yeah. I'm not sure. Yeah, I think it was something like it's as clean as a hospital. I think it didn't end up air
54:20
quality in the car is on the levels of a hospital room.
54:24
Um, all right. Moving on to our next topic. I fix it.
54:29
They got their app yanked from the Apple
54:33
store. They banned their devel. So, their account, their developer account
54:37
got banned in response to their Apple TV
54:41
tear down. To be fair though, in response, they were like, "Lol, we don't care. We'll
54:46
just work on our mobile site more." Mhm. Like literally their developers were
54:51
like, "Uh, we were kind of thinking of doing that anyways." So, what is awesome
54:56
and the best response they could have had. They're not a sponsor of today's show,
55:00
unfortunately. It would have been awesome if that had that particular star
55:03
had aligned, but uh we love those guys. They're great. They believe in Yeah,
55:07
they believe in understanding uh your devices and being allowed to repair them
55:13
yourself. So, um, with that said, I also
55:17
have to defend Apple a little bit here because iFixit knew based on an
55:24
agreement that they made with Apple that
55:28
if they did this, Apple could take action against them.
55:31
I don't think Apple was in the wrong and they did it anyway. I just think I fix's response was
55:35
perfect. Yeah. So, so there you go. Um, I fix it.
55:39
We'll just Well, okay. I think they're in the wrong because they should let people do that.
55:42
Yes. But they didn't like this is this isn't like this isn't like
55:47
that bull crap with um uh with Pebble
55:51
where right after the release of the Apple Watch you couldn't refer to the
55:56
the Pebble app in your description or whatever. Like I can't remember exactly
56:00
what they did but they've done some really stupid stuff. Yeah.
56:03
Um but this this wasn't it. It's just kind of funny.
56:07
Yeah. All right. ad block extension begins
56:12
whitelisting acceptable ads. This is actually something that I talked about
56:16
on a recent episode of Fast as Possible
56:21
um where they've actually had this program in beta for quite some time
56:26
where their community got together and
56:29
made a list of the of requirements for what could be considered an acceptable
56:34
ad. So something that doesn't take over the whole page. uh something that
56:38
doesn't, you know, uh turn up your freaking speakers and play at full
56:42
volume. Like all the ads on our site, so yeah, like pretty much the ads on our
56:46
site for adblock users, which I believe
56:49
is opt in by default.
56:52
Okay. Adblock users would receive ads on our
56:55
site, but I think we actually have to sign up like we have to submit and be
56:58
audited. Okay. For the acceptable ads program. But but
57:01
basically but basically what it is is um
57:06
here, hold on. I'm just going to go back to the to the details. If your ad is
57:09
considered acceptable, then you your
57:13
your your ad will be shown to ad block users unless they go back in and
57:18
manually opt out of this program.
57:22
Um, it was also apparently sold to an anonymous buyer.
57:26
Yeah. And we don't know who that is yet because they're anonymous.
57:30
So there you go. Oh, there was a previous uh controversy um IO so the
57:35
owner of Adblock Plus. So this is Adblock using the Adblock Plus whitelist
57:39
to be clear. Uh so IO had previously caused controversy by accepting payment
57:43
from some whitelisted ad companies. It apparently is no longer the case, but I
57:47
remember us talking about what a conflict of interest that created
57:50
uh way back when that was happening. Um IO says they are not the buyer of
57:55
Adblock though, so we don't know exactly what's going on,
57:58
but there you have it.
58:02
Um, this is stupid. So, yet another yet
58:06
another, you know, crowdfunding campaign
58:09
for yet another phone that will never exist. I don't even I'm not even sure
58:14
why this is in the dock. Oh, yeah. It's in the dock because I thought it was funny, right? I remember why. I put it
58:18
in here. Okay. Up to 256 GB of storage, 6 GB of RAM,
58:25
Snapdragon 8204 megapixel camera. Ah,
58:32
this is Symmet, the no compromised
58:35
smartphone PC that you can use as a laptop
58:40
because it is so powerful. Holy crap.
58:43
This is a render. That's not a real product at all.
58:47
Um, so basically guys, if you're buying
58:50
a a a phone Wow, that goal though.
58:53
Yeah, I know. Nowhere near it. Is it flex funding? I don't know if you guys
58:57
Oh my god. Can you check if it's flex funding? They have like 50 grand already.
59:02
Uh, fixed fixed funding. Okay.
59:05
So, if you if you're buying a phone
59:09
based on someone on Indiegogo or Kickstarter promising you that it's
59:13
going to be really fast, it's going to be the bees knees. It's going to have a
59:16
lot of megapixels. You know what this would be really good for? Not to cut you off, but someone
59:20
who's trying to uh buff up their
59:24
marketing portfolio for a resume. Like they could be like, "Look, I took a
59:29
product that straight up didn't exist at all, that would never exist, had no
59:34
possibility of existing, and that no one had ever heard about, set my goal at
59:38
over a million, and in four days, 114
59:43
people gave me over $50,000. You should hire me." What? Like, what? That's
59:48
pretty impressive. If I was smart, I'd probably say, uh, that's because you
59:53
promised them something you couldn't deliver, and that's not a viable
59:56
business strategy. The door's over there. U, but I could see someone
60:00
getting see someone I could see someone getting hired. Um,
60:03
so basically, so back back to what I was saying. If your plan is to buy a
60:07
smartphone that uh projects that it will be available,
60:12
when are they? August 2016.
60:15
So, in 10 months with like seemingly
60:19
nextgen specifications, here's a freaking clue for you. Why don't you
60:24
just wait till all the nextG phones are out? You'll have now until then to save
60:29
the money instead of dropping it now and you can get them then.
60:36
We should talk about more interest. Yes, there we go. Yeah, we're doing this one. So, this is
60:42
also a Kickstarter, which as you guys know, I'm not a huge fan. I generally
60:47
don't like giving them a ton of coverage or even talking about them at all, but
60:51
this looks like it might be the real deal. Um, so, so sort of just to give
60:57
you guys sort of the full rundown, we have never been in touch with Scarp. I
61:01
don't know anyone who works there. I hadn't even heard of this until Luke
61:04
linked me to it. shaving as we know it is for there must be the laser
61:09
completely level to the surface. Okay, so here's how it works. There you go. In a nutshell, soft last longer to the
61:15
touch. It goes at a particular
61:18
wavelength that cuts human hair but not
61:21
skin. So you basically just scrape this thing along your face and it removes
61:26
your hair like freaking magic. What I've been talking about, not to
61:29
like give other people ideas yet, um is I I want them to send us one for review.
61:34
I don't think they've responded yet. I had one of our guys send them an email.
61:37
I because I thought it would be kind of fun to review. We reviewed the shaver a long time ago.
61:41
And I was like, this is actually more a
61:44
lot more techy than the shaver is. Um, wow. That is a blast from the past. So,
61:49
here I'll screen I'll screen share. So, this is what he's referring to.
61:53
It's actually the fifth video that ever went up on the line.
61:56
I find myself in a tricky situation. It is now 5:30. I get off work at 6.
62:01
Hey, that's a cool shirt. At that time, I need to go directly to an appointment
62:05
for a portrait. So, this is like I I think this is like a
62:09
week plus for me. And I still I'm still like demonstrating
62:13
the I'm just going to mute this. This video is awesome.
62:16
Yeah. I look like you're in front of a projector screen, but you can still see
62:21
this shelf.
62:25
What is this?
62:29
The old intro. Oh man, this is awesome.
62:32
I get such a kick out of it when people are like, "Melinius, you're so unprofessional now." It's like, how when
62:39
were you when was this golden age? What What were you watching before?
62:43
When was this golden age of Lionus Tech Tips? Look at these shoes. When was this
62:47
golden age of Lionus tech tips? When you were watching when I was professional.
62:50
Hold on. When did you wear pants that weren't from Costco? Look at this computer. Look at this
62:54
computer. drive auto drive just hanging out.
63:01
This is great. But anyways, we had reviewed a
63:06
Oh man. We had reviewed a USB shaver and I was like, you know what? This thing
63:10
actually looks super badass. I think actually makes sense on our channel now.
63:14
Are we Is the audio playing right now? No. No, you can talk over it.
63:17
Um I think actually might like make sense on It didn't even do much. Well,
63:22
no, because it's uh what I had never
63:26
used a shaver. Yeah. Um and I didn't realize they only really
63:29
work on stubble. Yeah. If you want to use an electric shaver, you have to you have to like razor first
63:34
and then you can and then you can maintain with a shaver.
63:38
So, it I spent like forever and it didn't really work ever. So, also it was
63:42
like $5 or something from Caiba. But yeah, this thing's badass.
63:47
And one of the things that I want to do, um I I want to review it to see how well
63:51
it works. and I think it fits within the tech space. So, I I thought we should contact them and see how it goes. Um,
63:56
more as like an experimental video to see what people think. Apparently, people freaking care because of how
64:01
Yeah, they've raised like $2.5 million. Almost 15,000 people have backed them
64:05
and they've raised uh $2.8 million, almost $2.9 million, actually. Um, so I
64:11
thought, okay, we should try to review it. And one thing that I want to try to do is work with Taran
64:14
Mhm. and get a 3D printed mount to see if I
64:19
can use it for shaving hair down instead
64:23
of actually taking it completely off because they have it going right against
64:27
your skin. So just a like more like a grooming version.
64:31
So like make our own custom 3D printed mount to lift it off your skin a little
64:35
bit and then make it so you can they might even just make an accessory for that. I could see them doing that.
64:39
It's not in the Kickstarter. So I could definitely see it as like a a long
64:42
longer term thing. So you just you could even it could just
64:46
clip on. So you could just be like here here and like you know the places that
64:50
and then sort of everywhere else. That'd be kind
64:53
of cool actually. So I thought that could just be kind of fun to do in the video.
64:58
I can see this company just making a fortune because
65:01
you know what though? I think they're largely targeted towards
65:05
not really, but like all all the people in the video are men
65:09
and the stylistic design of the thing looks very masculine, but I think way
65:14
more chicks are going to be interested in this. And I get it. Yep. If if if you're shaving your legs, which
65:19
most guys don't awful lot of surface area to deal with.
65:23
This would be So you could just whip it by. Yep. You don't have to worry about cutting.
65:26
It's waterproof, which is cool. So you can use it in the shower, which is super
65:30
amazing. like yeah I mean it is so it's got the laser has a
65:34
life of 50,000 hours and is powered by a AAA battery and the founder has been in
65:39
the laser hair and skin treatment industry for 30 years now with all of
65:43
this said it's still a Kickstarter it's still not a real product
65:47
y let's see how it goes I didn't back it incredibly interesting
65:50
and if it actually works as well as they show I will definitely have one
65:55
but I didn't back it because it's a Kickstarter I'm going to wait till it comes out I'm not worried about it not
65:58
getting funding their goal was 160,000. They've made $2.9 basically million
66:04
dollars. Yeah. So, I'll just wait. There's no point. Honestly, at this
66:08
point in time, I don't see any real reason. All the early bird deals are
66:11
gone, right? So, I'd be buying it for a lot.
66:15
Yeah. Um, so whatever. March 2016. I'll just
66:20
wait till then. All right. We got a couple more things. This is sort of a big deal. Um, Amazon,
66:27
don't be douches, please. Like just
66:30
please don't be douches. Did you post this already? No, I didn't.
66:33
Amazon is banning Apple TV and Chcast
66:38
sales on their site. Uh so they've quietly informed it's not just you can't
66:43
buy it with Prime directly shipped by Amazon. Um it has informed marketplace
66:49
sellers that as of October 29th it will no longer sell chcast or Apple TV.
66:54
That's annoying. What the actual crap, guys. I'm sorry
66:58
that Fire TV is stupid and that nobody cares about it, but this is really not
67:03
the way to go about this. I'm like, your stuff doesn't even work
67:06
in freaking other countries. Get over
67:09
yourself. Like, we can't even use what is that even what is the thing called?
67:13
The Amazon whatever the tower thing.
67:17
So, the Amazon spokesperson over the last three years, Prime Video has become
67:22
an important part of Prime. It's important that the streaming media players we sell interact well with Prime
67:26
Video in order to avoid customer confusion.
67:31
Wow. The biggest load of bull crap ever.
67:34
I hope that they reverse this decision between now and October 29th or whatever
67:39
the date I just said was because that is super super stupid. I really hope this
67:45
turns into an anti-competition lawsuit because this is one of those cases where
67:49
it really would be justified. you you're I mean, yes, I know it's your store and
67:54
you get to decide what's stocked on your shelves. Even if you have a section of
67:58
your store like Okay, so you go to Home Depot, right? And there's a Harvey's or
68:01
a Subway or whatever inside it. They get to decide, you know, hey, we want a
68:06
Subway there. We want a Harvey's, but it's just kind of crappy
68:12
to just lock out what is effectively I mean, is it even a competing product?
68:16
Come on. Like in order to be competing, it would
68:20
have to be competitive. Yeah. Yeah. I was bringing up that the
68:25
Amazon Echo you can't even use in Canada. Yeah. We had to send it down to our
68:29
fastest possible uh writer down in the States to try out a bunch of the stuff
68:33
for us and then he's going to send it back to us and we're going to compile
68:37
our review based on on his notes and stuff like that. And he's he like he's
68:41
good. He's been writing for us for a long time and that's fine. It's just we shouldn't have to deal with that kind of
68:44
crap. YouTube to potentially announce its
68:48
subscription service in October.
68:53
Uh so the original article here is from recode.net.
68:57
So they are apparently prepping their subscription launch. Two services, one
69:03
price. Uh what this will mean uh it's
69:06
well I don't know, not necessarily 100% clear. Uh they were aiming apparently
69:11
for a midsummer 2015 launch. That clearly didn't happen. It's possible the
69:16
launch date could keep slipping and it's speculated that they also intend to
69:19
bundle YouTube music key with their ad free video service. So that's the way it
69:23
would work is you would subscribe to YouTube. Um industry sources say Google
69:28
has told them it intends to charge $10 a month for the combined music and adree
69:33
YouTube offering. Um although that's
69:36
sort of hard to believe because I thought the music service was just about
69:39
$10 on its own. Yeah, I thought it was $8. Anyway, so the point is um you will be able to pay
69:45
a subscription to YouTube and then not see any ads on the site. That is to say,
69:49
unless unscrupulous content creators bake their own ads into their videos and
69:53
force you to watch those so they can collect their own sponsorship dollars
69:58
and Google can't have their 40% cut of that. I wouldn't know anyone like that
70:01
though, right?
70:08
With that said, um, content owners have been told through a blast email that
70:12
they have to agree to the new terms by October 22nd or their videos will no
70:15
longer uh be available for public display. I haven't seen said email. I
70:20
have a YouTube rep. Um, so I haven't heard anything about this, but there you
70:24
go. Uh, what else we got? Oculus VR will
70:29
cost more than $350.
70:33
Fascinating. Okay,
70:37
so Polymer explains why the first consumer model won't come cheap. You
70:42
want to run through this one? This is I actually had no idea.
70:46
You didn't know this yet? No. Oh, okay. Okay, I'll run through this
70:49
one then. Uh, so in a nutshell, um, it's
70:52
been confirmed that it'll cost more than 350 bucks. The reason is that it has
70:58
more tech than the DK1 and DK2 days.
71:01
Although I think we probably expected this back when Oculus freaked out a
71:05
little bit when they saw Lighthouse on uh the HTC, what's it called? The Vive.
71:10
Yeah, back on on the HTC Vive. Um and
71:15
he wants it to be the best it can be, even if this means it'll carry a premium
71:19
price tag to set an example for all VR headsets. And that is important. But I
71:25
remember the whole like pitch back when the Facebook acquis acquisition took
71:28
place was like, "Yeah, thanks to Facebook's investment, we can keep the
71:32
price low." Yeah.
71:37
To be fair though, I'm not that surprised cuz like there's headphones
71:41
now and the stand camera is nicer and a
71:44
stand camera instead of like just this
71:48
like crappy thing that hooks onto the top of your monitor and weighs not
71:52
enough. So the cables always pull it and torque it to the side and it drives me
71:57
insane because it never sits flat on top of the monitor. I have to like tape it
72:00
or glue it on and then that's weird because then I have residue on top of my monitor and I'm just not happy about it.
72:05
And then now there's a stand camera and it's better. And like the headband thing
72:10
is a lot nicer now. Like they improved the materials in almost every way. They
72:15
improved the camera's now stand camera. There's Yes, we got that. Thank you.
72:18
There we go. Um, there's little like fold down headphone things now which are
72:22
trash. Please don't use them. I remember not that long ago freaking Palmer was
72:28
like, "Oh yeah, they're great. I'm an audio file. They're they're fantastic."
72:31
They're they're like those they actually sound okay. But the problem is that
72:36
there's those like pad headphone things that you
72:39
Yeah. So they're like those TDK like like $10 at London Drugs when you're
72:44
desperate. Like for what they are, I was like, "Oh, wow. I'm surprised this
72:47
doesn't sound like literally throw up pouring into my ears, but like they're
72:51
still pat like they come out on angles off your ear and it's just like this
72:55
isn't ideal. So get get your own headphones.
72:58
Okay, I'm going to let you finish, but I love
73:02
I love I absolutely love the argument of
73:08
no, these things are great. I'm an audio file. Audio file literally means
73:13
nothing. It's not a diploma. I don't remember if that's exactly how he said
73:17
it, but it was like I remember reading that and being like, "Okay." No, but I was I was reading comments on
73:21
the uh Beats by 50 uh Star Wars rap video that we did a long time ago, and
73:26
I've got people saying like, "Oh, first of all, oh, oh man, one of my favorites
73:30
was everyone else on the internet says that these are great." So, I'm pretty sure
73:34
this guy has paid off. Oh, no. One of these. It was Streets by
73:39
50. Sorry. Um these were trash. I know. They were awful. And then and
73:43
then and then there's there's always the comments. It's like I'm an audio file and these are great. Let's break it
73:49
down. I'm going to break it down for you. Okay. Audio means audio.
73:55
File means love.
73:58
Audio love. I like it. And these are great.
74:02
It's not a certificate. It doesn't It doesn't It doesn't give you any sort of
74:06
like industry credentials. It just means
74:09
you should take part-time education and like get an audio engineering degree
74:14
just to troll the whole internet. You know, I can't do the math.
74:18
I can help you with that. Would you just do the math homework for
74:21
me? Yeah, we can show up the test together
74:27
cuz I can do I can do conceptual stuff. Yeah, I got no problem with that. Yeah,
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but like you put an equation in front of me and I'm like
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I can just like three. I hope the answer is zero. I hope
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it's one of those.
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I hope you have to do a bunch of calculations and it's just zero.
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Anytime we can make it like an online course. Anytime we have to go in for a test, we can just get like a makeup
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artist to make it look like we're Siamese twins. Like just pretend my head
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to your shoulder. That would fly.
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like, "No, this is this is this is how it goes." Yeah. This is this is real, man.
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Yeah. Um All right.
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Oh, man. So, um
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someone's saying pedo equals walk pedometer. No, no, that's foot.
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Pad is foot. Well, pod is foot, but I'm pretty sure
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is is Oh, crap. Is ped walk? Because pod
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is foot. Uh oh. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Well, I hope I I
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hope I didn't screw that up. It says they have audio file network cables. All
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right, and on that note, thank you guys for tuning in to the WAN
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show. We hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. Um, we'll see you again next
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week. Same bat time, same bat channel. Maybe the same time.
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I hope you guys hopefully the same time.
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Um, hopefully. Oh yeah, also uh hopefully let us know if you guys like
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what we've done with the set. We actually pulled the table out a fair bit
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more so you can see a lot more of what's going on back there. Personally, I think
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it looks like the bee's knees, but uh I could be uh you know, I could be
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Looks pretty good. Mythical morning. We're not quite there, but we're getting close. Yeah, it does.
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There's some work to be done, I think. Yeah. Still still a little bit to be done, but it's pretty darn good. I'm I'm
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liking it. Yeah. Here, tell me this. Does this help or
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hinder? I think it helps a lot.
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Should we put the CRT up higher?
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Uh what? Oh, probably. One problem that
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I think it has right now is it's a very much a dark void.
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The CRT? No, the whole thing. Oh, well, we could light it better.
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No, I know. But that's that's what I'm saying. Like like the like the black racking and the dark wood and then the
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Maybe we should wear bright shirts. That might help. I bet that would help a lot. We should
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be doing this kind of thing on Afterparty. Probably. Okay. Byebye.
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All right. Bye. Squarespace.
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Build it section.
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You allow that.
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What would be wrong with a blog?
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Me naked on it. A lot of things. Whoever wanted to host the site though is my