The WAN Show - All Hail NVIDIA! - April 1, 2016
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2016-05-06
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17,005 words · ~85 min read
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the peg tops for these we're live
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which are very cool by the way they are maybe a video about that eventually yes
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yes maybe eventually welcome my friends to the WAN Show the show on the internet
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that's the joke after all WAN Show
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why no one got it at this point almost
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no well no no i remember when we first changed the name which is really funny
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everyone hated the name WAN Show i bet most of you don't even remember
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i missed the days when it was the live stream when it didn't have all these
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production values and 3D printed microphone holders with screw the garage
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i liked the kitchen or the living room screw the kitchen i liked the whatever
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was before the kitchen with the bookshelves and change is never good why
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get off my lawn um
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all right so uh Oh wow yeah I've got people talking in the uh talking in the
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chat about who's wearing their WAN hoodies yes the WAN hoodies have finally
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dropped mine's actually at home yeah mine's mine's at home i do have to wash
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it occasionally also short sleeves like
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it is finally getting to be the real the real spring going on over here i noticed
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because I do thermal testing in the warehouse and the warehouse doesn't really have like it has heating things
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but they're usually off um you can track like what season the video came out in
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based on the ambient temperatures in the warehouse cuz in the winter it was like
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16° now it's like 22 and it's like oh okay I really hope it doesn't get like
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too hot in here in the summer probably going to you know what last summer it
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was somewhat bearable on the days when we didn't open up the bays and and we
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have the window coverings now that'll help that's cuz like my office someone
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walked into my office uh yesterday taran Taran came into my office yesterday
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before we shot the Channel Super Fun and he was like "Holy crap it's hot in
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here." I had had the Windows I had had the window cover open for about seven
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minutes when before I beams right in there
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before I got them that office was like a sauna it was horrible i hate that it was
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absolutely horrible so much and to be clear guys we have an air conditioning
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setup yeah but you don't air condition a warehouse generally speaking it's not
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unless you're like a cold storage place yeah do you have any idea how ballin it
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would be to uh air condition the entire warehouse have you been up on the roof
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no okay so they're the two air conditioning units you can like you can like see them up there so we have two
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air conditioning units each of which are about double the size of this table um
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and that is just for the office space which is only about a third of the
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entire space in here so we would have to have like six air conditioning units or
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much larger ones in order to air condition the warehouse which is insane and it's huge amounts of money lots of
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electricity all that kind of stuff so there's there's a ongoing costs suck yes
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so there's that even when you live in BC and your your power is pretty cheap
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because everything's just falling water it it still sucks one-time costs are
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good things like buying a camera like in
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the grand scheme of things even a $5,000 camera is not that bad hiring an
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employee for you know let's say oh I don't know $2500 or $3,000 a month let
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me tell you that adds up extremely quickly especially compared to that
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camera two months in you're already way past and then like with with the stuff
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that employers have to pay for different various thing possibly one month in and
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you know what's BS with the camera I pay for it once and I can use it forever
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it turns out employees are nothing like slaves the second you stop paying them
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they stop working in fact if you terminate them it is customary to pay
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them to keep working for another two weeks even though they don't do it
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anyway we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today uh Tesla announced
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the Model 3 yay
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although you'll have to wait a while if you want one yes more on that in a
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little while ooh this is interesting lawmakers pushing to make owning an
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unregistered prepaid phone illegal in
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the United States of a holortation
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from Microsoft it's all I'm going to say is hollowportation
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anything is better with portation at the end yeah like uh like transportation
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that's a little boring maybe yeah not always planes trains automobiles yeah
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that's a great movie yes anyways you don't even know that's a movie do you i
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know that's a movie why I said you didn't know who Tom Hanks was i You
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didn't know Harrison Ford played Han Solo i Okay those are mis quotes and not
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fair okay you know what's great about the
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internet speaking of quotes no they can go watch it mr mr gabe Newell once said
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that you can't lie to the internet because they watch it you did not know
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Harrison Ford i know who Harrison Ford is i forgot his name in context when
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talking about Han Solo it's still inexcusable but that's not how it
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happened that's why I said a misquote
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god won't you misquote another topic um in uh Bintel
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Rodwell IP branched
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there i misqued a topic which was Intel Broadwell EP no you're done intro's
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rolling you're done
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and when it's done rolling he won't be there
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okay no no see there's a problem with this there's a there's a big problem
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with this so I'm going to have to fix this here we've got We've got ourselves
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a problem i'm just going to Hold on i got to just There we go yeah okay oh no
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no he's back okay yeah good enough his
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feet can stay that's it you're done
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oh what am I trying to do right now oh yeah sponsors Squares
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oh he's back wait hold on i have to fix this there we go
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all right so get get back get back in here get back in here so that what you
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said wasn't going to be a misquote so I had to not be there yeah because then
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we'd have to get rid of me and then there would be no WAN Show and that's a problem do you know how many WAN shows
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in a row we have done on Fridays whether
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it's you know Christmas
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or New Year's which I think both fell on Fridays this year we kind of fake out
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the Christmas one april Fools we did fake out we did it on a Thursday that's
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true we did we did we did we did we did every other one we honestly haven't
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faked it yep yep i I don't think we've I don't think we Yeah i don't think we've
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ever actually claimed it was a live broadcast when it wasn't no i've had
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people in the chat be like "This isn't live there's no way it's live." Then
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I'll like reply to them in chat and then they're like "Oh okay."
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Really that actually happens like quite a bit oh cuz it'll be some holiday and
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they'll be like "There's no way they came into work." It's like "Actually we did." There's been a few times where
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we'll move when we get the holiday so like we'll take the holiday on the
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Monday instead of the Friday or there's been other times where we just come in
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to work at like 4 yep i think we did that i think we only did that once but
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Luke and I did do one day where just he and I came in no one else was in the
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office we hosted the WAN Show and then we pieced out it was a beautiful day if
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I recall correctly yeah yeah i think it was must have been like BC day or family
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day or something like that and we're just like "Yeah it's really hot in this
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room and it's really gorgeous outside." We had to like listen to the kids
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walking yeah anyways speaking of gorgeous outside the original article
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was posted on the forum by Maybback 123
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yes I have Tesla Model 3 announced the
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release is set for 2017 which is a very very generous headline courtesy of The
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Verge because uh I think what Musk
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actually said was that production will be starting in late 2017 with the plan
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being to actually deliver cars by the
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end of 2017 just a few which is Yeah which which based on how many people
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have pre-ordered the damn thing already probably doesn't mean that everyone who
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pre-orders is getting one right off the hop no no definitely not like I I
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wouldn't expect it to be any different than their other launches where they're
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just going to go in order of their pre-order list so okay what do you think
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the very front Okay so what I think it
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looks ugly okay but cuz you said
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speaking of beautiful and I was like yeah I'm not much no I'm not much of a I'm not much of a car guy so I generally
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don't have much of an opinion about a car okay but this looks jarring and
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unattractive to me but I think I understand why again maybe because well
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it looks like it kind of crashed into a wall maybe because I'm not a car guy
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because I'm looking at it I I like to think very very objectively
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and I think what I don't like about it is just that the grill is missing i
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understand why the grill's not there you don't need one
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you don't need one for an electric car there's no There's no radiator there's no heater core well oh no there is a
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heater core probably but I guess that would just be handled down here or something anyway anyway like I I get why
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it's ugly and it has kind of a It has kind of a Porsche look to it a little
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bit to me like the Okay I see it like the the hood has kind of like a Porsche
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look to it looks exactly like a Panamera to me uh Brandon says it looks like a
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Panamera to him but I think if you if you shopped a grill onto it
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all of a sudden I didn't think it was a grill thing at all until you brought the It wouldn't look so unnatural to people
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and I think car people who find beauty in every line and every aspect of a car
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are used to seeing something it's like it's like let's say a very beautiful
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woman who didn't have a nose m maybe
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she's still beautiful but you're looking
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for you're looking for the elements that make the person a a human and well also
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and if something's missing it's I think it's jarring but then at the same time
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you're going to get people that want jarring so people are going to really like this there's people that might be
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super into the chick with no Nose it like it But yeah exactly i when I first
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saw this I thought it looked especially probably because of the lighting in that
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photo if you want to jump back there and share it yeah sure i'll I'll get back on
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there so I'm assuming it's especially cuz this specific photo is the only time
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that I've been like "Oh I don't really like it." But you can see right along
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the edge on the top it's It's I'm going to Yeah I can't really so right along
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there you can see the line from the lighting and it makes it look like this
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super harsh angle it does it looks like it was like angle folded in and like it
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was smashed into a wall and I don't really like that but in profile pictures
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it doesn't look nearly as bad so I think it's because of the lighting in that one
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photo interesting it look It looks like super bent in and awkward and I know
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like uh Brandon brought up the Panamera
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and there are some Porsche cars that do kind of do that but then there's
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something going on there whether it's a grill or
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something an opening i know they have the opening at the bottom but it doesn't really look the same it still looks like
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a pretty harsh edge it still does look like It still does look like you know it
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looks like someone took a styrofoam cutter and just cut off the front of the car yeah I can see it and you know what
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like the thing is is that if there was a grill on there it wouldn't bother you i
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bet pro because you could even have the grill come it could even be concave i
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mean concave grills are a thing you could have a concave grill right there
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and it would look totally natural but I think it's I think it's like the nose analogy is pretty good where it's just
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like the nose isn't there and you're looking
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like it kind of looks bland here like I'm expecting
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the grill is an accent piece i mean that's why you that's why you call you
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know the gold teeth nonsense that's why you call it a grill it's like it's a
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fancy it's a dressed up element of a vehicle and it's missing on this car um
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the registration plate will be there yeah
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I don't know how much that's going to help a good point and thank you for
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bringing that up but I don't know how much it'll help it's going to be such a
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small thing and it's very overlooked on a lot of cars anyways yeah it surprises
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me that for the sake of fuel economy they don't have like an air scoop that
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filters air through the car or something like that like you uh like it it looks
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like a very blunt nose but I'm sure the engineers at Tesla thought of something
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i was just going to say I'm sure there's some logic behind the like even
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aerodynamics of it having a straight wall doesn't normally seem like a great
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idea for that but I'm sure there's something going on there i mean it's one
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of those things where it's not until you an engineer it's not until you sit in a
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better engineered car that you you appreciate certain things about it like
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I had uh the first vehicle that I ever sat in that I noticed this on like my my
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family always had North American vehicles and so the first car I ever
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noticed this on was a Volkswagen Jetta of some sort some some some model it was
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a long time ago and I marveled that when
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I opened the Windows when I unrolled them in the rain the rain didn't drip
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inside the car and I was like leave it
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to the Germans to figure out how you can
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open your window like as long as it's not torrential downpour or like coming
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in that way on an angle or or angled how
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to have the water kind of fly past the
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car instead of like going right into the window and soaking whoever's in the back
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seat i was like "This is amazing." I think it was a 91 Jetta and I I don't I
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suspect that not every Volkswagen or and
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and it could have been by chance it could have been entirely by chance although I doubt it yeah um
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so so it it blows me away the number of things that go into something as that's
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seemingly as simple to the untrained viewer as the body design of a car where
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you just kind of go "Yeah it must just be for looks right?" No manufacturability
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uh aerodynamics things like keeping the freaking rain off of people absolutely
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absolutely stunning the amount of work that goes into something like this um
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that being said I think the rest of the car is very good-looking
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i think the rest of the car is actually very plain looking for a $35,000 car
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though brand new okay so here I'm going to I'm going to do this i'm going to put
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us here does that not pretty much look like the
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butt end of my Civic i just like the little Tesla badge to be
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completely honest you dislike the Tesla badge really you don't like this no I I
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just like Oh you just like that that's it not dislike okay i didn't know like
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cuz when you covered it up I was like kind of boring so like That's probably
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That's probably a significant part of it
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you are so freaking shallow if you look at the back too though I think there's
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like a cool window thing going on uh yeah okay so no they've uh Verge has
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another has another shot of it um here let's go ahead i'm just going to cuz I
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liked that cool i thought Yeah so that's pretty cool okay so it's one continuous
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piece of glass all the way from the front of the windshield to the back of
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the windshield and this is with a fivestar safety rating i was going to say this is another thing that kind of
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blows me away because Musk has come right out and said that it will be one
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of the safest cars available and I'm
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kind giant piece of glass over everyone and I'm kind of going I mean this is
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something people don't think about because how often do you pick up you
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know a six foot long piece of glass not very often no freaking heavy oh yeah i
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had to put the door back on my uh my glass enclosed shower thing at home with
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the help of my with the help of my wife
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and like it was all we could do to get
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it on crooked it's on crooked now
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and I was like she wanted to take it off and it was one of those like husband and
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wife things where you know she's wrong and you know you're going to regret it
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but you do it anyway because you're just like yes you're right dear it is very
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very important indeed to you know clean the thing under the hinge or whatever
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stupid asinine thing it is that we're doing right now um
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let's take it off and so we did and I
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regretted it and so did she so now it actually doesn't close anymore oh but it
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it kind of mostly closes do you get splash or anything no okay so it's
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probably It is functionally functional but not aesthetically functional it is
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functionally functional yes thank you for that yeah I knew what I said was
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dumb as soon as I said it but uh but I like I like Anyways the instant replay
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was much appreciated coming back to the car I do like that part a lot it looks
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really cool i worry about it in crashes and stuff um yeah i mean if he's I mean
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the the Model S is a shockingly safe car it is and this is a fivestar safety
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rating so like I don't know i mean that just seems like
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I mean so many the thing about modern cars is that what has made them so safe
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speeds on highways have gone up the speeds that people travel have gone up
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the the incidents of injury and death and collisions have gone down
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dramatically in the last 50 years
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crumple zones that's been the answer is
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let the car take the brunt of it and I don't understand
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how glass factors into a crumple zone
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unless it is that that cubing glass that
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you find on automobiles where it's designed to go "Okay haha I'm dead."
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And disintegrate into a bajillion pieces
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but why would you want that type of glass above the driver and the passenger
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i thought it would be windshield glass well that would be that's that's that
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kind oh I thought you Okay yeah so it's either designed to be rigid in which
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case um
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it seems like a problem or it's designed to shatter into a bazillion pieces in
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which case but windshield glass holds together when it shatters it visibly
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shatters but it holds together windshield glass hold on maybe I'm
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thinking is it side glass you can be side glassass am I thinking of side
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glassass the hell up because okay my mom had a while I was in the car had a rock
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come through her drive same thing exploded window is gone the front of the
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window you can beat the crap out of the front of a car window and it'll just
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you're right cuz you can like stick a bat through them okay so but either way
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then either answer I don't understand I think
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I understand windshield glass a lot more no but so you think this is windshield
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glass okay I like I mean then in that case
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yeah and what someone just said roofs aren't part of crumple zones it would be your trunk and your front that's true
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okay that's true so as long as you don't get hit by a semi the theory would be
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then that the crumple in which case you're doomed anyway uh so the theory
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would be then that the crumple zone
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wouldn't actually reach the roof
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the things that kind of worry me uh outside of that are if you get t-boned
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Yes and your your door like by something big yeah and the door frame like if you
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get hit by a by an SUV like a truck or an SUV or something and and the like
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upper part of your door frame bends but then if it's made of windshield glass
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then it should just vis visibly explode but mostly hold it assuming it's affixed
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very securely here here and here which it kind of looks like the idea would be
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that it could basically dent in without necessarily creating a disastrous window
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is like layered i think there's like glass and then plastic and then glass or something like laminated yeah I don't
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remember exactly what it is don't quote me on that i would look it up it's kind
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of cool actually but it should it should visibly shatter like crazy but then kind
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of hold it shape to the point where if I remember correctly I've seen videos of
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people like pulling it and it like bends but it still holds its shape and like
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will visibly blow up but still hold its shape i don't remember what the exact
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combination of things is but they're like "Guys stop you know nothing about
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glass." Well that's Welcome to the WAN Show that's true um all right so let's
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talk about some of the other things we do know about the car price is looking to start at $35,000 which puts it right
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smack in range of the new Bolt that or
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hold on volt and Volt the Volt that Chevy was No wait no Bolt volt that
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Chevy was showing off at the auto show that I just attended oh that was so
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confusing so yeah Chevy Volt is the is the hybrid which is a plug-in hybrid
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starting 2017 and then the Bolt is the pure electric um so Chevy is saying that
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the Bolt will be sub $30,000 in the US
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assuming that you get the full federal uh tax credit which I think can be as
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much as $7500 okay but if you are in I
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think Tesla's quoting that and if you are in a lower income bracket you won't
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necessarily be able to take advantage of it because it is a tax refund so it
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assumes that you paid $7,500 in taxes
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and then they refund that okay um
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will deliver at least 215 miles of range
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although we are a long way out from when the car is actually shipping um which is
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end of 2017 elon Musk fairly confident
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according to our notes here that deliveries will begin by the end of 2017
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so they've got time to tune it means like nothing and that's very similar to
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what Chevy is quoting on the bull i actually was really it was it was
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actually kind of fun doing the auto show even though like again I'm not really a
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car guy cuz I got to talk to so many people that I have like little snippets
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of information that are actually relevant to what we're talking about right now for a change i don't have to
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kind of sit there and be like during the car topics
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um it's also fairly comparable to uh Hyundai's Ionic which is I believe
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shipping now in Korea and coming soon to North America so um yeah really cool car
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have you seen the Ionic no three different drivetrains uh traditional
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hybrid plug-in hybrid so with like um I think it's about a 22 or 25 mile or 18
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somewhere somewhere in the 18 to 25 mile pure electric range and then it switches
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over to a gas motor for a gas engine and then a pure electric so three different
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drivetrains of otherwise the same basic car very interesting car oh so you can
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buy Okay i was like "Why the hell would
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you ever do that?" No no no no it's like yeah hot swap drivetra like that just
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sounds needlessly expensive for so many reasons okay yeah um so that's really
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This is great so the the the pre-orders in our notes are 130,000 although I
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think you were saying Musk has tweeted a number that's higher than that uh I'm
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talking to someone about this remember what it is uh Model 3 pre-orders yay for
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having computer 7.5
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billion worth of Model 3 pre-orders in
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24 hours 20 hours ago it was uh past the
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150,000 mark wow
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so hold on a second let's let's whip out the old uh calculus here oh here we go
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180,000 cars now the craziest thing
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about this and this is this is really cool this is really smart is that those
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people did more than just kind of u you
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know uh uh answer a straw poll on the
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internet or like a Facebook event
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invitation right yeah yeah they they paid $1,000 each for the
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privilege of pre-ordered it crazy and
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what's really cool about that is I was actually talking to Brandon when we were
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at the car show about how much cash
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Tesla has burned over the last 18 months
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it's like over a billion dollars like they are actually I believe they are
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they could be it's somewhere in the they have somewhere in the neighborhood of $1
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billion of cash left don't quote me on that exact number but they're burning
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through it so fast that I was talking to Brandon i was like "Yeah like they're
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going to run out at some point here so they're going to have to go back for another round of investment or something
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brilliant idea take pre-orders you know
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u 20 months in advance and that actually
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just put a significant amount of cash
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into the company that actually lets them run for not an insubstantial amount of
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time to continue developing the Model 3 while they are still not able to
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actually ship cars i mean you know do do the I I should be able to do this in my
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head and I feel bad for So the 7.5 billion is the total if everyone paid
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full price for the car which I don't even think is uh possible right now so
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it's about $180 million yeah so that's the cash injection they just got as
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effectively like a like a a a
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Kickstarter towards the Model 3 except that you don't actually have to pay the
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full amount yeah and they don't have to give Kickstarter a cut so that is an
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incredible chunk of uh chunk of moola in
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order to uh in order to get things in order to get things rolling over the
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next little bit oh this is this is great usa Today has pre-orders topping 198,000
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as of two hours later than the Verge
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like check this out this is very much a developing story how many pre-orders
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Tesla is getting oh my god on the Model 3 wow
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um I can't share topics right now because Firefax Firefox that's basically
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what it is doing right now fail Fox um Firefox is completely crashed uh I can
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do it give me a moment uh which which one are we which one are we linking here
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just uh I was going to I was going to share some of the statistics sites um
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but for this Oh I think I already shared the car oh okay then we're good um okay
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so five adults will fit comfortably in the Model 3 and comfortably is
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apparently the important part here um
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all Model 3 cars will support Tesla's high-speed supercharging network as well
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as feature the hardware which is interesting they specifically said the
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hardware for autonomous driving features um so it's possible you will end up
26:49
having to pay more in order to enable the software unlock of it um but what's
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cool about it coming with the hardware is it means that you could potentially
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uh buy that later on down the line which which is a lot easier to swallow for
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people and would be really cool for things like the resale value of this
27:04
type of a vehicle so if you got kind of go no I want to drive my car myself but
27:08
hey you're looking to sell it and someone else wanted the autonomous
27:12
version hey that's that's pretty cool you can just download that kit of the
27:16
car all models will apparently feature the full safety suite so all of the
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safety features and um shoot there was
27:25
something else that was really cool that I was going to say just now right and
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there will be but there will be variants that will cost more so that that $7.5
27:35
billion estimate that assumes that people are only spending uh the very
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base right $35,000 but there's going to be a two-w wheelel
27:45
drive there's going to be a four-wheel drive model there's going to be any number of different trim levels so
27:49
$1,000 down just means you're committed to buy one it doesn't mean that you're
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committed to buy a base model and I can imagine people spending more than
27:57
$35,000 on Okay it was based off an average retail price of 42 oh 42 sorry
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so didn't know that so thank you i just wanted to double check because I wasn't
28:08
sure i assumed they would just go for that but like I don't know i have Can
28:12
you even go through like a car configurator at this point i really
28:16
don't i don't think so i don't so then how do people know what the average retail price is
28:22
i don't know yeah but like option mix
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stuff yeah no no no no yeah so I'm not really
28:31
sure entirely how people are getting that number um because like I'm not
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necessarily sure especially with a super affordable car
28:41
um that's going to come with a lot of its features anyways like how much extra
28:44
are people necessarily going to add i don't know you know I actually take a
28:50
completely different view of it than you do the way that I see it like as someone
28:54
who's a total cheapkate and has never bought an expensive car um one of the
28:59
things that I've been waiting for to upgrade the Super Civic is an electric
29:04
vehicle that makes sense so for me if
29:08
I'm kind of going okay I have the Super Civic is a 2003 that I've been driving
29:14
since 2006 and so for a 10-year
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investment do I really want to do to myself what I did to myself last time
29:21
cheaping out and not getting air conditioning and is this thing gonna not
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come with air conditioning no like that's what I mean like without a kit configurator AC is usually extra really
29:34
Tesla well but the thing is Tesla's cars cost six figures right now so it would
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be a base model feature but this is a $35,000 car so I don't know without a
29:42
kit configurator it's impossible to say yeah but I could see myself investing in
29:47
some extra creature comforts if I wouldn't be surprised either like real
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deal I'm going to keep it 10 years yeah
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yeah I could no I could totally see i'm I'm just saying like just deciding on
29:58
that number is maybe a little weird anyways um so this is interesting here's
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a blog post from Elon Musk August 2nd
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2006 where he outlined the master plan
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um which has actually totally come to fruition
30:15
blah blah blah as you know Tesla Roadster is the first car it's a sports
30:19
car i am going to use the money we make on this to fund to to make something
30:23
more affordable enter the Model S then I'm going to use the money from that to
30:27
make something that is much more affordable enter the Model 3 so
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basically he said 10 years ago what he was going to do blah blah blah here you
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go so here's the summary
30:40
the rest of the automotive industry had 10 years to react to this master plan
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that he actually put in plain and simple
30:49
English on the tesla.com blog
30:54
and only Chevy looks like they have
30:59
somewhat reacted to it properly tried yeah um
31:05
with that said I do see the electric car as a secondary
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vehicle for most people still even the
31:16
Model 3 with secondary vehicle i see it as a second I see it like the second
31:20
family car kind of deal not necessarily even the second one but I see it as a as
31:26
a car for people who have two vehicles okay because the range and recharging
31:31
considerations make it um make it so that if I wanted
31:37
to go on a family road trip and I realize you can just rent a van and do
31:41
things like that but aside from the cost it's much less common for road trips
31:44
these days very inconvenient um
31:49
so the the the is it that bad if you're going on a road trip you could plan out
31:53
supercharging stations you could 15 miles a day is
31:59
Not that much no if you're doing a family road trip though yeah that's true
32:04
do you need to slam like I don't know that's true but I mean I don't know i I
32:07
don't feel like I would need to buy an entirely different car on the off chance that I wanted to do a family road trip
32:12
and book it the whole time but would you as someone who only has a single car
32:17
would you buy a pure electric then sure you think so uh here it would be a
32:22
little bit harder well I live I would also probably be completely fine because
32:27
the craziest stuff I do is drive to Kitsano and back so which is completely
32:32
covered in 215 miles i guess what I'm trying to say is I can see why everyone
32:38
else not everyone but many others are betting so much more heavily now on
32:43
hybrid electric or excuse me plug-in plug-in hybrid um is what is what
32:48
everyone's calling it where it has an electric motor and some of them are are
32:52
very reasonable like I think uh the Prius Prime is able to do something like
32:56
80 85 miles an hour on the electric motor like it's it's it's not or 77 or
33:01
something whatever it's it's like highway cruising very comfortably very
33:06
quickly speed um and with a range of about 22 miles it's like everyone's in
33:11
like that high teens uh to low to mid20s range with a range like that I do kind
33:18
of see it as best of both worlds where you can do your daily commute probably
33:23
on the electric motor and then the gas motor the gas engine which has got a
33:27
range of you know 300 to 350 mi on most
33:30
of the cars that I was looking at that'll handle anything that is not
33:35
covered by pure electric that strikes me as a more potentially much more
33:39
convenient solution if you only have one car so while I agree with you depending
33:44
on your lifestyle pure electric could be the one car if I was going to make a
33:49
$35,000 investment that I was planning to keep for however many years
33:56
I also definitely see the value of a plug-in hybrid i understand that i just
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think the amount of people that expect to drive uh 107.5 miles in one direction
34:06
and back a day is a little crazy um the
34:09
amount of times people are going to go on a road trip it would be very
34:12
cost-effective to save the money not buying a plug-in hybrid and just buying
34:16
an electric and then just renting a car unless a plug-in hybrid is very
34:20
similarly priced to a pure electric if it is but I don't see the
34:26
added literal mechanics that have to go into the car not making some other form
34:30
of difference to make it the same price yep you might lose a trim level somewhere you might lose something in
34:34
order to make it the same price i feel like that would happen because you're literally adding things to the car so
34:38
you're thinking potentially even longer term than me where you don't want to do
34:42
any maintenance on the car pretty much other than replacing your battery pack
34:45
periodically that isn't even what I was saying but that is a very good point and I'll take it um what I was saying was
34:50
literally putting those functions in the car would increase the raw cost of the
34:55
car right so so like trim level would
34:58
have to go down or something to make it an equal price remember too though that they have much smaller batteries like
35:03
way smaller batteries and that is a huge part of the cost of an electric car
35:08
super sucks then yes but I mean well they have much they have much lower
35:12
range to correspond to their much smaller batteries here's another consideration though um so Musk also
35:18
said that the Model 3 is going to be capable of 0 to 60 in under six seconds
35:22
um no one's quoting 0 to 60 times on the
35:27
plug-in hybrids that I saw at the auto show so I don't expect those electric
35:32
everyone's quoting top speeds which does not mean that you're getting torque off
35:35
the line um I mean you'll probably still be doing okay because it is an electric
35:39
motor but it is not the same kind of electric motor that you would find in a Model S or even a Model 3 which like
35:44
some people are going to say like "Oh yeah well like you can't speed because it's legal or whatever." Anyways having
35:49
fast pickup is actually very very helpful very useful it's one of the
35:53
things that I like most about riding on a motorbike um is the fact that people
35:57
say "Hey riding on a motorcycle is really dangerous." And it if you get hit
36:02
you're probably dead on the highway like to be realistic uh I think motorcycle
36:07
helmets have any functionality up to about 60 to 65 km an hour past that they
36:13
do pretty much nothing you might as well be wearing a baseball hat um don't tell
36:17
my wife I said that i'm actually putting the bike back on the road very very soon
36:21
um
36:24
awesome but sick one of the counterarguments that I make about
36:29
riding a bike is that A my visibility is
36:33
so much better than you because I actually have my full field of vision
36:37
with no obstructions whatsoever b I am smaller than you so someone can actually
36:44
be encroaching on my lane by a meter and
36:48
I can still be in my lane and not being hit by that person number three is I am
36:55
way more agile than you so as long as I have my head on a swivel I have seen a
36:59
motorcycle dodge an accident that another car ended up getting in i have
37:03
seen it on the road he saw it coming and just I I was just supposed to said
37:06
stepped on it but that's not really how that works uh got out of there really
37:10
quickly and then the car ended up careening into someone else having fast
37:14
pickup I would argue based on my experience as a rider if you have your
37:18
eyes not just on the road but all around you having fast pickup is as important
37:23
or more important than fast braking if you want to avoid accidents and it's one
37:27
of the things I like most about my bike is it makes me much more able to avoid a
37:32
bad situation things are much more on you yes yeah um being being a defensive
37:37
rider is while I'm not going to say safe
37:40
is not as dangerous as I think people would potentially believe if they had
37:44
only ever been behind the wheel of a car and had never ridden a bike right so I
37:48
definitely see having torque um as as a
37:52
very important safety feature of a vehicle there was even I don't remember who did it but they they did a uh they
37:58
did a video on uh their electric car showing that it
38:02
was slower than a whole bunch of other cars then they showed that like off the line
38:07
it was really fast they're like "Yeah you're not going to get the top speed at
38:10
like a few miles of like this this Challenger or whatever." Yeah but
38:17
in a in a city when all that really matters is you maybe being able to get
38:21
in front of the other person right after the intersection make that light yeah exactly that kind of stuff like you can
38:25
do those things very effectively which is probably all you're really going to be able to use anyways because you're
38:29
probably not going to take this car to a track and that's realistically the only
38:32
time that you'd be able to use that so like that's actually kind of interesting
38:36
so let's move on to our next topic i just realized we have spent like 20
38:40
minutes talking about the Model 3 i mean I'm on the show so I'm sorry i'm on the
38:44
show and we're talking about electric cars so we could just keep going it's fine yeah I know right virtual reality
38:49
or electric cars i can just It's fine it'll be okay so this was originally
38:53
posted by Nine Shadow on the forum lawmakers pushing to make owning an
38:58
unregistered prepaid phone illegal in
39:01
the US so the original article here is from Android Authority
39:06
and uh yes yes Matrix references are very clever authoritar Authority um so
39:12
there's a new bill in the works called the Prepaid Mobile Device Security Gap
39:16
Act of 2016 if it passes anyone who
39:20
purchases a prepaid cell phone will be forced to register their identity with
39:24
the device and this law is being pushed forward by Jackie Spayer a Democratic
39:28
representative from California
39:32
so supporters of the bill are saying that
39:35
it's a solution to the the loophole that is allowing you know nerd do wells to
39:40
purchase prepaid phones as ways to conduct their illicit business and
39:44
that's definitely a thing and that is definitely a reality um one thing that I
39:51
wonder about these days though is like you ban this they're just going to buy
39:55
smartphones without a plan and start using other applications a lot more
39:59
expensive two bit drug dealers can't afford to run out smartphones now um
40:05
hold on a second yeah but if you were to buy that then you would have to if you
40:10
buy it off a plan you would have to register their identity smartphone off a plan well that's what people are doing
40:14
right now is they're buying devices uh oh wait so we're talking about prepaid
40:18
cell phones yeah this would not be a You would not have cellular so you buy a $20
40:22
smartphone off a plan and then use Wi-Fi
40:25
and whatnot you could yeah i mean yeah but the thing you could even hotspot
40:29
wi-fi is quite traceable though relatively speaking
40:36
i mean Wi-Fi gives you the location uh
40:39
that gives you potentially a security camera feed nearby like if you were
40:44
making calls off Wi-Fi no I was thinking making a hotspot from your phone oh I
40:49
see yeah but then even then that can be traced back to that device again so it
40:55
VPNs and stuff like I I don't know i don't think it's the hardest thing to
40:58
get around i would argue that the average two-bit drug dealer does not
41:02
know how to use a VPN okay that's probably fair but then they just need
41:05
like one techy dude in their crew to hook them up with cell phones yeah but I
41:10
would argue that probably many of them
41:14
do not have that and if they did that's
41:18
a more elegant solution than running around buying need more of those like classic Gangster Squad groups where
41:22
there's like the hacker guy on the on the laptop and like the thug dude and
41:27
then like the funny guy that drives the car and like Yeah anyways that's how
41:30
crime every movie ever yeah yeah it's
41:34
like that's your that's your major in crime school it's like
41:38
which dude you are yeah wow that's perfect i wonder how
41:43
many people remember crime school uh more than you'd think people have been
41:48
bringing it up to me yeah um yeah i mean
41:52
I I guess to me this doesn't feel so
41:56
much like taking away a freedom as
42:00
um as as closing closing a gap that was
42:04
that was in introduced accidentally because it's not like when phones were
42:09
introduced a line wasn't tied to a
42:12
physical address and then later on when cell phones were introduced a line
42:16
wasn't tied to a person um who also had
42:20
a physical address when the yellow pages started was it literally everyone was in
42:24
it uh like everyone with a Yeah white pages and you're so young so the yellow
42:29
pages are for businesses and the white pages are for individuals well my book
42:33
had both of them in it we actually did use it it's been a long time yeah
42:37
anyways uh but but but but yes yeah so
42:40
it used to be that you actually would uh
42:43
contact I had looked up people that I knew in the I guess white pages like
42:47
when I was a kid in order to be like I know this dude's name but I don't
42:50
remember his phone number and then I could just find them literally yep and
42:54
you would just like call all the like P fernandez until you reach the right one
42:57
yeah yeah there might be a few of the same name or whatever but so it used to be that you actually had to pay to not
43:02
be included so you had to you had to I think it was it was either BCTL that you
43:07
contacted or it was Yellow Pages okay uh or can pages or whatever they were
43:11
called at the time it's can pages now i don't think it used to be um so you
43:15
would contact them and then there was a processing fee involved and you could
43:19
get an unlisted number that that was where unlisted numbers okay came came
43:23
from so um yeah so so the whole idea of
43:28
being able to have a phone line anonymously is actually very new so I
43:33
can see why they want to close this gap i really doubt that this law will be
43:39
pushed through and if it is pushed
43:42
through I doubt there will be any real way to enforce this uh because in much
43:47
the same way that you can go to NCIX and you can tell them your name is John
43:52
Smith and create a customer profile around that the law isn't about buying
43:57
phones and having them registered law is about being on a plan having a pay as
44:02
you go plan that's unregistered so I
44:06
guess what I don't understand is if you have a pay as you go plan what prevents
44:11
you then from Okay sorry not phone then uh SIM or or refill card refill card so
44:17
if I have a pay as you go plan what prevents me from registering it with fake information and you could say yes
44:22
there will be all these regulations in place to prevent you from doing that but at the end of the day that's not going
44:27
to stop you know Joe Tubbit uh you know corner store guy from actually what what
44:33
like walking to your house and verifying that you actually live there like like
44:36
what personal information are we expecting people to submit in order to
44:41
register for their prepaid plan can you buy I guess you can probably buy prepaid
44:44
stuff i wonder if it's going to stop online sales of prepaid stuff you might
44:48
have to show your driver's license in store maybe but then what will how will
44:51
you enforce that i mean I guess what you can do then is you can make it the
44:55
problem of the corner store and then you can shut them down um but I do it's
45:00
gonna be a long and uphill battle yeah i just
45:04
People are saying you could ask for social security number i mean come on what do you have to provide your social
45:09
security number that's brutal like that's terrible that's really brutal if
45:13
that's the solution and I'm not giving then I oppose this yeah i'm not giving
45:16
my sin or SSN or whatever to any random
45:21
like corner store or big box store employee there's no way that's happening
45:25
not in a freaking lifetime i mean not some employee who will have my like name
45:29
address phone number on file with my social and identity theft shut up 3,000%
45:37
in the state of California that was like the worst idea oh my god yeah so no that
45:42
would be that would be terrible um I refused to go to a uh Nick Light
45:48
switched gyms we used to work out together and he switched gyms um and
45:52
then the the new gym they take your bank
45:56
account information and then withdraw money directly from your bank account
46:01
and I was like okay I'm not going to your gym
46:05
because it's just I don't like that they can't just take a credit card no they
46:10
refuse to take credit card they refuse to take cash they refuse to take it's
46:13
like a 3% processing fee it has to be on time billing and it has to be withdrawn
46:18
directly from your bank account but then you can get overdrawn i know
46:24
i was just like "No dude i'm out." Like
46:27
I don't know i don't like give and like I don't like giving people that kind of
46:32
information like checks passing back and forth in my mind is insane i don't
46:35
really want people knowing anyways yeah just insanity uh speaking of insanity
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Twitch chat that was talking about something we were just talking about and
48:27
then I forgot we were going to do that but then I I I glombmed on there a
48:30
little bit after that um so on the subject of taking credit card and how
48:35
easy it is maybe that gym should get themselves a Freshbooks account oh my
48:39
god that would be way better because not even just saying
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allowing you the business owner to see that the customer has received your
49:06
electronic invoice which is very very cool they can't be like "Oh yeah man i
49:10
totally didn't get your email." No I didn't read it yeah sorry I'm late yeah
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I get you know I just got it today yeah no you didn't
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um so Fresh Books is great whether you're a plumber you run a small dance
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family okay no let's come up with something that someone No one in your
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family has ever done that's good let's say for example let's say for example um
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you know driving for the uh the local movie productions that are being done
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here or say for example um doing some
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work for the fire department in the city of Langley or oh I don't know teaching
49:52
at a community college uh here in Vancouver um or you know um uh I don't
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you hear about us section by the way and by the oh another this is cool they just
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got a mobile card reader as well so you can take credit card not only
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electronically but also on the spot so Fresh Books allows you to spend your
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time developing your business instead of staring at your computer at the end of the day when you're frankly already very
50:44
tired and worrying about accounting crap yes you want to hear about another
50:49
stupid gym payment story sure we have a
50:52
lot of topics to cover this week though and we have done nothing there's a
50:57
really cool gym in Miami that I liked a lot went there a few times tried to get
51:02
a membership there the problem was you have to pay on the exact same day every
51:06
single month and you have to pay in cash in an envelope and if you miss it your
51:10
key fob dies and you can't come in you have to make an appointment with the guy
51:14
that owns it and then you can pay again so I was there for a month and then
51:18
never again i could have told him that you're not organized enough to do that
51:22
well I was literally out of the country for work and I was like this is going to
51:26
happen way too much i'm out of here
51:32
so yeah anyways okay let's talk about
51:35
holoportation original article here is from Gizmodo
51:40
and that is some cool shiz that we got
51:44
going on right there so right now you're
51:47
seeing it where he's he's scaled it down quite a bit but realistically this is a
51:52
previous recording he's he's the one facing away from the main camera here
51:56
that's that that's him and his daughter that's a previous recording that he had
51:59
just done in that room like minutes before he shows this demo so what he's
52:04
kind trying to show is that you can do it in real time you can have conversations with people or your family
52:09
or your co-workers or whatever and then you could theoretically play it back so
52:13
if you want to like relive a memory so say you had um your family over for
52:18
dinner and you had everyone hanging out in the family room after and your family
52:21
was crazy and said crazy stuff and denied it later
52:25
you could record it and then give it to
52:28
everyone in the family to either relive
52:31
those fantastic memories or to prove
52:34
your accusations later on I guess is where that may or may not have been
52:39
going um but this is cool for a whole bunch of reasons one of them is uh being
52:43
able to have people there say in family situations that might live across the
52:47
country other ones are different companies that might not have everyone
52:51
working in the same place we're in the same place some larger companies have
52:55
multiple offices around the world if you want to work with someone it is actually
52:58
legitimately kind of easier to do things
53:02
if you feel like you're in the same room and these things how out of business are
53:05
these guys are so dumb in my opinion
53:08
i've never been into these they like you can control them and like wheel them
53:13
around and there's a screen on it and a webcam and they just don't matter in my
53:17
opinion at all oh I have to go up the stairs you want to pick me up i'm
53:22
probably pretty heavy you can put me up there and then I can keep wheeling around i don't know i always thought
53:26
that was kind of a stupid thing but this is actually kind of cool um if you go to
53:31
the video and probably mute it but go to the very beginning he's interacting with
53:35
a dude now to be fair all of this looks like it was kind of previously recorded
53:39
because the skits are just so bad but it might actually just be because the skits
53:43
are so bad that it feels like it was previously recorded before he even said
53:46
that you could record them I thought they were recordings so this Yeah he's
53:50
interacting with this guy so theoretically there you go you see he
53:54
kind of like teleports into the room and you can tell he's digital but it's pretty good that's crazy hey yeah so one
54:00
thing to note is that the camera that's filming this has hollow lens equipmenty
54:04
stuff on it so that it can overlay things in real time y but that's not
54:07
obviously exactly what you would see so what the hollow lens would actually more
54:11
kind of see is in the bottom lefthand corner so the the color is much less
54:15
accurate it doesn't look nearly as good
54:18
yeah but you can see where it's going and this is a dev kit or whatever so
54:22
it's pretty cool see they can't actually high five
54:30
very very cool though it's super and you can see cameras cameras i was going to
54:35
say you can see the cameras and there's more of them behind him there's cameras
54:38
all throughout the room and they're they're actually pretty crazy cameras so
54:43
this is uh maybe not going to like be in your home right away but a super cool
54:48
this will actually eventually happen kind of deal and once they get them down
54:52
to the size of like kind of the lighthouse sensors for the Vive which at
54:56
this point I'm way more excited for than the Rift but that's maybe for a
55:00
different day um uh once they get them down to that size
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and the hollow lens isn't this like giant thing that you have to wear on your face and it's more like glasses
55:08
that's going to be insane absolutely insane
55:13
i don't know i really like the idea of telecommuting not necessarily
55:17
telecommunication but telecommuting like being able to go to work digitally i
55:21
think that's going to be super cool especially for congestion and population
55:25
density in crazy cities because if we get better internet infrastructure
55:30
outside of just cities and people are able to commute to work which is 10
55:35
hours away instantaneously that's awesome we don't have to have
55:39
everyone in these crazy highrises right really close to their work all the time
55:43
yep and we don't have problems like in Vancouver where our land in actual
55:47
Vancouver is fairly restricted and everyone has to live super far out and
55:50
houses cost $2 million water United
55:54
States of America yeah congestion it's like it's Yes
55:58
exactly um so people being able to telecommute into Vancouver would help so
56:04
many things i mean for employers it'd be great if I could hire someone where I
56:09
just kind of go "Okay so you're proposing that I pay your relocation
56:14
costs uh your labor market impact assessment uh charge which by the way is
56:19
very expensive with the lawyers involved in all that." Like we hired an American a little while ago not e uh easier for
56:25
him but we looked into the LMIA it is very expensive very complicated and very
56:30
timeconuming um
56:33
there's there's a company in Vancouver Hootsweet who has recently released a
56:36
blog talking about how it's becoming excessively difficult for them to hire
56:40
anyone because it's becoming excessively difficult for talented young people to
56:45
live in Vancouver so there's a mass exodus of like young talent in Vancouver
56:50
we don't live in Vancouver for a very specific reason because it's too
56:54
freaking expensive to live so this makes life a little bit better for employers
56:57
because I could say "Okay how about this instead of paying your relocation costs and all of those other associated fees
57:02
why don't I just set you up like a like a space where you're going to kind of
57:06
live and then if I ever want to talk to you then I'll flip on my presumably much
57:10
more high-tech and much less clunky hollow lens glasses i'll pay for you to
57:14
have a setup next to your desk that you actually just set aside at your house
57:18
wherever you live and if I ever need to talk to you I'll know where you are yeah
57:22
no seriously it's And you could literally have like just a corner or
57:26
whatever because it doesn't have to be very fancy on your end but just where
57:29
they sit theoretically and you could go see them quite physically you could see
57:33
them working at their desk and you could be like "What's that?" And it could be projected and everything could be kind
57:37
of cool i don't know very cool speaking of things that are cool this was
57:41
originally posted by CUDARS on the forum and the original article here is from
57:45
WCCF Tech and the Intel Broadwell EP
57:49
family has been launched so this is the Xeon E5
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2600 V4 family based on the Broadwell
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architecture so the servers are actually lagging more than a full architecture
58:05
behind the desktop products these days um but the good news about this is this
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means that Extreme Edition on LG 20113
58:13
can't be far behind so uh hopefully we'll be getting some new uh enthusiast
58:18
desktop uh extreme edition chips that aren't based on sorry what are they
58:22
they're still Haswell based aren't they yeah so so Intel's actually spanning
58:26
three architectures right now they're running Skylake on the mainstream
58:30
desktop they've got Broadwell based chips on the server side and then they
58:34
are still running Haswell on the enthusiast side which is like anyway um
58:41
so they finally launched them they make use of their 14 nmter core architecture
58:46
increased core count core IPC improvements as we already know because
58:50
there's there's not a whole lot we don't know about this we're talking Haswell to
58:53
Broadwell like happened a while ago um
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and better performance per watt compared to the existing chips the main cool
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thing 22 threads multi-threaded 22 cores
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or 22 cores sorry 44 threads yeah right there baby so of course I'll be calling
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up my contacts at Intel and being like "Yo I I I want I want two
59:17
one is not enough no one CPU can be enough for me." We're
59:23
getting with with GPU announcements on the horizon and this kind of happening
59:28
um we're getting into compensator territory again yep because compensator
59:32
can't I had someone message me the other day and they're like how are you going
59:35
to do one when he just made the seven
59:39
gamers one CPU $30,000 computer how do you make a compensator which was not
59:44
nearly as expensive as that when that just happened i think it can still
59:49
happen i think so because it's more the
59:52
compensator was never like literally the most insane thing you can possibly build
59:56
no it was like what are the most expensive but still consumer
60:01
kind of things that you can get not dual CPU motherboard and intended for one
60:05
user yes the compensator machine delivers more horsepower to a single
60:10
user than seven gamers one CPU could
60:13
have actually uh on the GPU side of things anyway so there you have it there
60:18
is no reason why we can't still do a compensator in fact I've already got
60:22
GPUs lined up for it oh nice i didn't know that i do okay yes i wonder what
60:27
those are uh I I actually don't know all
60:31
I know is that I'm getting whatever they are seriously not even joking that's
60:37
awesome it's like it's NDA so no one can tell me anything they're like "Yes you
60:41
are getting them you'll get a thing."
60:44
Okay that's cool uh so 7.2 billion
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transistors on a 456 mm square die uh
60:51
where's the uh Yeah 22 cores maximum is
60:54
freaking insane um brought three die variants oh this is
61:00
interesting so there this is not necessarily the traditional way of doing
61:05
multiple CPU SKUs so what we've seen in
61:08
the in the in sort of more traditionally in the past is that the Xeon and the
61:12
Pentium 4 would have been based on the exact same die um just with a couple
61:17
features laser cut off of the pennium 41 or whatever else and anything from a 2.4
61:22
to a 3.46 46 GHz or whatever would have all been based on the exact same die and
61:26
it's just a binning process well now we've got three dieses one that can
61:30
accommodate 4 to 10 cores with 3.4 billion transistors one from 12 to 15
61:35
with 4.7 billion and the flagship 16 to
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24 core with 7 whatever billion
61:42
transistors so epic freaking cool so
61:45
epic um what can they tell us about this one i want to know what it boosts to 2.2
61:49
GHz base 3.6 six boost not bad wow
61:56
that's ridiculous i did not think it was going to boost to that at all and it
61:59
tells us per on a per core basis do you know how hard it is to find this chart
62:05
for anything from Intel seriously have you ever tried to find the actual boost
62:10
breakdown i actually have and I have actually failed it is so annoying so
62:17
this is Wow look how aggressive Turbo
62:21
Boost 2 2.0 is here so up to 11 cores
62:29
11 cores and so up to 10 cores you're getting anywhere from plus 18 over the
62:35
base 1.8 frequency i don't know why they even call it a base frequency if you're
62:40
going to do plus eight so okay so here
62:43
let me let me do the math so with 22 cores active you get 20 you get one 18
62:48
plus 8 so 2.6 GHz and then with as few
62:53
as like three or four cores active you
62:56
can actually get up pretty close you can get like 3.3 GHz very very interesting
63:05
h so the 2683 V4 is a very interesting
63:11
skew because it's got a very similar base frequency to the 2699 it's got 16
63:16
cores which is still an awful lot by the way uh only two fewer than the previous
63:20
flagship at 18 and it turbos up almost
63:24
the same up to its full 16 cores which
63:28
not necessarily all of them do oh this one's this one's sexy too the 2697 V4
63:33
that's an 18 core so that would be a direct replacement for the 2699 V3 that
63:37
I have now but looks like it can
63:41
actually turbo up more aggressively base
63:44
frequency of 2.0 man there's a lot of SKs this time around very very very
63:50
interesting goes all the way down to quad course
63:55
so that gets me excited not necessarily all of you but whatever um
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I don't really care about that one i want to do April yeah let's do uh Yeah
64:08
let's do some of the uh some of the April Fools jokes that have been around
64:11
there this was posted by Elfin Sky on the on the forum so Razer did Project
64:16
Bread Winner uh the Razer Toaster which
64:19
it appears they actually did produce toast with Razer logos on it in order to
64:24
uh make the video of they put so much work into this video oh yeah like as a
64:29
video production company I can I can tell you guys that with all the
64:34
different talents that they had uh including some fairly notable game
64:39
streamers and internet personalities like where's uh where's what's his face
64:43
mr castle's over there he's in here where'd he go
64:48
they probably cut him out a lot because because there he is look at this guy uh
64:54
anyway um they put a lot of freaking
64:57
work into this thing honestly in my opinion at six minutes the joke is kind
65:02
of old by that point especially because it's obviously April Fools when I
65:06
clicked on it I was very surprised at how long it was but uh but I I will say
65:12
though that um it was good nzxt's was probably a little short i was
65:20
uh I was going to wait till we got to that one but yeah what the heck and a
65:23
little bit low effort um so oh wait what is this press release but the actual
65:28
landing page seems kind of fine uh have
65:32
you noticed that here where because all I saw at first was the um and they they
65:37
super try to harvest your email with a popup right away wow which is super lame
65:42
guys just kind of wanted to enjoy uh April Fool's joke already on your
65:46
mailing list didn't need that anyways um they did some like weird VR thing with
65:50
like VR's in the heel which was a little excessive they should have just gone
65:53
with the lighting joke and the video which I don't know where it is i think
65:56
it's up there there you go the video is like the most halfass thing I've ever
65:59
seen
66:03
like it's not like it's just a static image
66:07
um and like it's literally a product that's actually been made
66:12
like like that those shoes exist and like that's not even that far off for
66:17
NZXT to make them to be completely
66:20
honest this is probably the most believable one that I've seen i thought
66:23
this was actually kind of cool i kind of wish there was GeForce GTX energy drinks
66:27
yeah so just an energy drink get your drink they've got And like if you buy if
66:31
you buy like a like a They only come in packs up to four you buy like SLI packs
66:37
you get like a slight discount if you buy like dual SLI
66:42
and if you SLI them together which is funny because you don't in real life no
66:45
I know on video cards i know yeah if you buy them together you can like click
66:48
them together and then drink from like one thing but it's both of them or
66:53
something i don't know it could be kind of cool so so that that was I thought
66:57
that was done really well that was pretty cute uh they've got graphs for
67:00
increasing your reaction time and and such sort of Yeah people are saying like
67:03
I would actually buy this and stuff like Yeah that would actually be kind of cool this is really trippy look at this i'm
67:08
like clicking here and it's going down
67:12
that's actually really weird there there i found it oh what the heck there I
67:17
found it so this is how fast you are without it this is how fast you are with
67:21
it it's just obviously a sped up video of the same the same clip which is which
67:25
is which is I think NVIDIA exactly how they should have done it the right
67:28
amount of effort into their April Fool's joke um the NZXT thing seems like an
67:33
afterthought that they put a good web designer on and then we're like try to
67:39
get this out really quickly and oh yeah don't forget make sure you try to harvest as many emails as you possibly
67:43
can when they try to watch this which kind of sucked the NVIDIA thing actually
67:48
seemed really genuinely good the Razer thing seems like they got super
67:51
massively into it this is so cool i
67:54
actually ended up watching a fair amount of these videos cuz they're just kind of awesome have you no I actually haven't
68:00
watched any of the videos do you know anything about this not much okay so it
68:04
it actually doesn't explain it that well here so what's really going on is they
68:09
had Snoop Dogg sit in a theater with some other I'm assuming YouTube
68:13
employees and they watch the videos on a
68:18
big theater screen so like this and he just comments the video from the
68:22
background so you can like turn it around and look at him and he'll just
68:26
like talk about the video while it's playing but it's Snoop Dog so it's
68:29
awesome and then you can rotate it back and actually like watch the video i
68:34
don't It's actually kind of cool what What was frustrating was like I'd
68:39
watch some random video on YouTube and it would have a Snoop Vision or whatever
68:42
it's called i think it's called Snoop snoop Vision snooper Vision logo and I'd
68:46
be like "Oh sweet." Like they did this one that's so cool but then no there's
68:50
just a little set of the ones that they did there's obviously not everything
68:55
so like that waterblue one is actually done in Snoopa Vision so it's it's 360
69:00
and you can turn the camera around and see him sitting there and talking about it it's actually kind of cool binge on
69:04
Up was pretty funny this was one where they put a ton of effort into it and it
69:09
actually like kind of worked out no
69:14
sorry what was that that was them wanting to know my location
69:19
so it's it's a it's a like a headset thing that just makes it so that your
69:24
phone is like in front of your face uh it goes with their binge on thing where
69:28
you can watch tons of different services without using your data so their whole
69:32
idea is like well if you're using that service and it's not using your data you
69:35
can just do it all the time yeah the problem is that Rick Mercer's already
69:39
done it and if an amazing Canadian like Rick Mercer has already done it then you
69:44
lose this was a long time ago this is when Blackberry was relevant i love I
69:50
love this video see Rick Mercer genius
69:54
oh no never mind his didn't actually have a spot for the helmet never mind
69:57
sorry it had a signal booster and it made it so that if you walk into Okay so no Rick Mercer has not quite done it
70:02
this I'm pretty sure this thing's been done though yeah I'm pretty I'm pretty
70:06
sure that a uh that a phone holder a phone holder you know what's really
70:10
funny is I actually would like a product
70:14
sort of like this except for the bed
70:18
headrest or the headboard have I talked to you about that no it just makes sense
70:21
yeah like the amount of times I'll be like this I get really tired and
70:26
then drop it smacks right in the face and it'd be perfect for things like a
70:30
Kindle as well yeah oh yeah i love reading in bed but like you get
70:34
uncomfortable in this side then you get uncomfortable with that like if you
70:38
could build a versatile enough ARM that it's strong enough to hold a Kindle a
70:42
tablet or a real book even and then you
70:45
could just have have it so you could like turn the pages and just like have like a clip on oh man that would be like
70:51
the most comfortable way to read ever might even be a thing i would never get
70:54
out of my bed ever again um so who gets who gets your vote for
70:59
the for the best April Fool's joke
71:04
i enjoyed Snoop Vision the most enjoyed Snoop Vision the most i think NVIDIA's
71:09
was very well executed i enjoyed the most yeah yeah
71:14
uh like it's gotten to the point where I think there's a fine line where between
71:19
ad campaign and April Fool's joke yeah and between like between making it funny
71:26
because like because it's April Fools versus actually trying to fool people
71:31
was yours was yours actually trying to fool people though mine was trying to
71:36
walk the fine line where I was pretty sure that some people would believe it
71:40
but that I wanted people to mostly know
71:43
that I wasn't serious by the time they reach the end of the video that's like a
71:46
semi-dangerous thing for people to think is actually happening yeah i don't want
71:49
people to actually and and you know what though i think as much as a lot of
71:53
people posted on the video like this was super obvious and you guys are idiots
71:59
this is just another bad video that you've made the number of people that
72:03
also have like not just publicly like
72:07
"Haha haha I am playing along with the April fool wow you got me." Um but the
72:12
number of people that have reached out to me privately asking if it actually happened
72:17
i don't think I've had any of those that's funny oh man uh so I think we
72:21
walked the line just right yeah because I liked it i was just trying to dissect
72:26
your point I guess but yeah I like the RS um yeah NVIDIA NVIDIA I think had a
72:32
very wellexecuted one i enjoyed YouTube's the most which I'm not too
72:35
surprised about youtube always does such a great job there's more Google ones in
72:39
here that I guess didn't make it into the doc like the I think it's called the
72:42
Google Parachute yeah that's in here oh never mind parachute uh by Google
72:46
Express i was just I was skipping past it because we're really close to 6:00
72:50
and this one's kind of annoying because Oh it worked for you i had to put in a zip code before I could actually see it
72:55
but this one's kind of funny shop anywhere anytime and it like
72:59
parachutes you whatever you're buying i
73:02
thought it was pretty funny i think it's kind of funny because like Amazon
73:06
probably not that far off might get to this point with drones where you could be like walking around town and be like
73:10
I want a soft drink and it just like brings you one like I wouldn't even be
73:14
that surprised if that ends up happening so like I don't know that one definitely
73:18
didn't win for me because I was just like that could totally be a thing maybe not with parachutes but like All right
73:23
let's jump through some of our rapid fire topics here first up we've got that
73:26
AMD announces the Fire Pro S9300 X2 dual
73:30
Fiji for HPC so yeah pretty much it's a
73:35
uh Fury Pro Duo except with a completely different everything about it except for
73:39
the GPU cores themselves $6,000 yeah
73:43
different PCB different cooling design so these are these are designed to be in
73:46
a chassis where the cooling is taken care of by the chassis so there's no fan
73:49
so it just goes in here and then out the back um and it's got an awful lot of
73:55
stream processors and it's got a big boost clock and um there's two GPUs on
74:00
it i'm a little surprised that it's only 300p
74:05
300
74:09
i All I have to say about this is that um
74:13
Polaris and Pascal can't come soon enough i am so tired of talking about uh
74:18
28 nanometer GPUs yep
74:22
um Windows 10 is possibly getting well
74:26
okay is getting I guess uh Ubuntu's bash
74:30
and Linux command line which is kind of crazy so apparently you can uh write.sh
74:35
scripts on Windows and they're getting command line and stuff because they're
74:40
baking that into Windows 10 and I have no idea why they're doing this well DOSs
74:45
is gone so people might want it i know
74:49
but like I'm like okay I like that it's
74:53
happening i mean is anyone I don't understand it from a Microsoft perspective is anyone complaining about
74:57
PowerShell well yeah okay well then maybe they're I
75:03
just I don't see this changing anyone's mind on anything so you don't understand
75:07
why they wouldn't just make PowerShell better or
75:12
uh well people being more used to things and stuff is cool but like I I just Okay
75:17
I don't know how to phrase this properly i understand why this is going to be
75:20
cool for people i'm surprised Microsoft did it and I don't understand why they
75:25
did it like like what would be your inspiration as a Microsoft employee to
75:28
be like we should do this well they want
75:33
basically everything they've done since
75:37
Nadella took over has been about increasing the install base making sure
75:43
to to not only not continue to lose not
75:46
continue to erode the latest version of Windows install base but claw back
75:52
market share claw it back from piracy claw it back from Apple claw it back
75:56
from even Linux uh however insignificant that install base might
76:01
certain certain user groups because there
76:07
would have to
76:12
like this being the thing that could
76:16
make us go okay now we could have these
76:19
elements of both worlds with this via this new Linux subsystem within Windows
76:24
10 like like yeah like I I I like it I'm
76:27
not saying I don't like it if the objective is to actually try to sell
76:31
your product by doing things that are good for your users then I get it it's
76:36
just that seem like a Microsoft move that's why I'm confused like that's
76:41
that's the Yeah yeah i'm not I'm Yeah i'm not I'm not saying it's a bad idea i
76:46
think it's a great idea when I read that I was like "Wow that's really cool makes
76:50
things easier in a whole bunch of different ways that's awesome i'm just
76:55
just doesn't seem like Microsoft that's all
76:59
i don't know um Apple is developing
77:02
batteries to improve energy capacity in devices this was posted by Sans Varmick
77:06
on the forum and the original article here is from PC World i guess that's
77:10
about like saying that Apple is developing screens that display images
77:15
to the users of their phones but I'm sure there is uh I'm sure there is more
77:20
to it than that um I mean
77:26
you know maybe it's not quite They're focusing on ceramic maybe it's not quite
77:29
the same as that because Apple actually hasn't done pretty much anything to their battery capacity other than
77:33
release the iPhone 6 Plus which just is bigger and has a bigger battery in it in
77:37
the last little while i sure wish they would just do a thicker phone with a higher capacity battery please not that
77:42
they'll ever listen to me i'm sure they don't care what you weren't on the show for that what do you think about the SE
77:48
um I because you like small phones i think that they're desperate
77:52
i think that they straight up are pulling a Samsung and going "We can't
77:58
figure out how to sell more phones so let's just throw more models at the problem." Okay that's what I think
78:03
happen you're not excited because it's smaller or anything i think they are I think they're basically slashing price
78:08
without trying to I think they are putting off for as long as possible
78:13
slashing the price of the flagship device by creating an entry-level tier i
78:17
think it didn't work well last time with the iPhone 5C but I think that the
78:21
reason that didn't work was that um
78:26
the 5C was built from the ground up to be cheap in a way that was very obvious
78:30
unapologetically obvious um I hate that
78:34
word and then there's the there's the there's the issue with what they've done
78:37
in the past where they've just sold previous generation devices but those were not designed to be cheap devices
78:41
and I think the manufacturing costs are higher so I can see why they're doing it
78:45
they're building something from the ground up to be cheap but not that cheap
78:48
and they are giving uh and they're they're taking the fight to the entry-
78:53
level smartphone makers sort of at least in the best way that Apple can do that
78:57
on from a pricing standpoint um but I think they basically just aren't sure
79:01
what to do to to to keep selling more phones because much like with many other
79:07
devices phones are really getting to the point where yes the Galaxy S7 is
79:12
marvelous and I'm going to be switching to it but if I already owned a Galaxy S6
79:15
and I actually paid for phones I sure as heck wouldn't be doing that
79:19
university of California Irvine uh hold on i wanted to touch on a little bit of
79:23
a little bit more about this so um focusing on ceramic as the electrolyte
79:28
they've proven in Labs that they can provide faster charging and safer
79:31
batteries which is a concern um they're
79:34
also hiring people that can take battery technology from the lab to the factories
79:37
and they already got granted a patent for developing a solid state battery
79:41
this could be considered the next big technology in battery research
79:46
so good cool university of California
79:50
Irvine announces an esports scholarship so by the start of 2016 six private
79:55
schools had developed scholarships based on the game which is uh League of
79:59
Legends in this kind of context um this
80:03
is the first public state-run school to officially support esports um they're
80:07
talking about building a like a little land cafe and everything on campus which
80:11
I guess would be kind of like your your field
80:15
i mean if you're going to have a basketball court you might as well have a land center yeah i mean if you're
80:19
taking esports seriously and you're going to have you're giving scholarships and stuff you should probably have
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somewhere for them to go anyways the the cafe will be built in the model of
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Korean PC gaming cafes and will offer a
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premium League of Legends experience i wonder if that includes my favorite part
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of those cafes which is where they like bring you food and stuff directly to
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your thing probably not i seriously doubt it so they probably mean like
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sponsored gaming chairs but like still um I don't know this is kind of cool i
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We're getting closer and closer to like VJHS
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yep we like actually are so that's going
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to get interesting i don't know someone's going to interview like Freddy
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W in like 15 years or whatever and be like "How did you know this vision was
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going to come true?" Yeah it's going to be like "Shit man i didn't know i
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thought it was funny." Making a joke i just I just figured it was kind of
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cool i made a video with my bros esports is cool this is cool like it's
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it's starting to become a very viable career for an actually not insignificant
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amount of people yeah and not just a professional career but also like an
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indie career through services like Twitch yeah yeah so like it actually
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kind of makes sense i'm making fun of it because it's kind of funny but it does
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actually kind of make sense riot Games has a guy Okay a guy whose job title is
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collegiate program manager go figure
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who saw this one coming you know um
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I think that's the show
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yeah pretty much uh
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let's see blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah oh the
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PlayStation 4.5 is kind of interesting um so this is everyone's calling it 4.5
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could be called 4K or something like that but word on the street is that Sony
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will be launching a play an updated PlayStation with roughly double the
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performance of the previous PlayStation uh whether that's enough to actually get
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them to reasonable performance at 4K is
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uh still very very much uh to be determined um like no but
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I got to use a wet blanket but like we I did that test like years
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ago why don't Why don't you just Why don't you just Why don't you just go to
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Japan okay pull up to Sony's headquarters and take a giant dump on
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the lawn why don't you just do that if you're going to be such a downer minus the dump on the lawn part we should like
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do a diplomatic mission as a video sometime like
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I don't know if it's to Sony or whatever but we should just like show up somewhere and be like Valve we want to
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help design stuff stop putting glossy
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plastic on your controllers there Valve perfect done do not put glossy plastic
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on the top of your damn controllers my dad ended up watching that review
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because he was like kind of interested because couch gaming is totally in his
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realm of things that he would like to do and he saw the glossy plastic part and
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was just like "What why i recently had a
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conversation with someone where I was like like I was half joking because I
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thought I was talking to someone like kind of lower down on the totem pole um
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and I was just like uh and I was like yeah and I can't believe you guys put
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freaking glossy plastic on it and it turned out it was the person who like
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made the decision and he was like why
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was this Gigabyte i don't remember okay cuz at CES
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um I had a conversation with Gigabyte about their nucks really are their
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bricks they're bricks and the guy was like "Yeah like um we put Matt on it i
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hope that's a monitor guy for me." Oh yeah no it was it was a the guy that
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manages bricks he's like "We put Matt on it i hope that's okay." I was like "That's awesome." He's like "Oh what
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you're not like mad that there isn't glossy?" I was like "What are you
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talking about who are these people?" But
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do you read anything have you watched any of our videos like come on and not
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just us anyone's I mean I'm pretty sure
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we're not the only ones here we're not or not right i shouldn't have said our
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videos like like have you have you looked at reviews of things at all like
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the what what was it the Fury uh Nano
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that has like the glass over top of the glossy uh not what product is it that
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did that cuz that was cool that was fine cuz the glass is nice and easy to clean
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and the glossy plastic under the glass stays gets protected and doesn't get scratched instantly i don't remember
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what product it is though good job but you know what I'm Yeah whatever um
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someone did it it looked great that was a good implementation of it just putting
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glossy plastic especially in places that you're going to touch is so dumb and I
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don't understand how they haven't figured this out yet back to the PlayStation 4 and a half um a more
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likely reason for its existence is to compete properly with VR computers um so
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if because I mean we did the math back when Sony was saying well you know due
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to our special sauce we are this much more efficient we're this much we're this much 60 hertz per eye we can make
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it okay if we do some fancy interpolation whatever else we did the
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math and it still didn't add up yeah it was still weird if they have a
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PlayStation that is twice as powerful now it makes sense
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so if you want to have a proper VR experience it looks like you're probably
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going to be buying a PlayStation 4K or 4 and a half or you know 4 VR edition or
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whatever the case may be so I think that pretty much wraps it up thank you guys
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for tuning in to the WAN Show we will see you again next week same bat time
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same bat channel if you're tuning in late uh the upload will be up in about 6
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