The WAN Show - Doom & Gloom for AMD & an 8K TV! - September 18, 2015
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2016-05-06
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All right, guys. Welcome to the WAN Show. This is going to be the first show
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in quite some time with no technical difficulties.
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Actually, I already know there's going to be one technical difficulty. We accidentally deleted the version of the
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WAN Show intro that has audio. So, the
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uh guys are currently working on fixing that baby up. And
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uh uh hopefully it'll be back for next
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week. So uh without much further ado, I
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guess uh oh a so many of you. I know for
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a fact due to the Twitch delay that you haven't even gotten far enough in the
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show for me to have admitted there were going to be difficulties. And you guys
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are all like lol. But I I I I I
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I know you're right. Anyway, we've got a lot of great topics today. And by we, I
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guess I mean I Luke is actually um I
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wonder if I'm allowed to say where he is. He's in LA. He was invited there by
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a graphics card maker who isn't AMD. So
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I guess hopefully I haven't revealed too much. the reason for him being there is
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under NDA and he's got Brandom with him.
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So, he's definitely making videos. So,
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that's all I'll really say, which is kind of a lot, but Luke couldn't be here
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with us today, unfortunately. But, I'll do my best to run the show by myself for
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y'all. And we've got a lot of great topics this week. Actually, the
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Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and more may be
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revealed at an October 6 New York City event. Um, I did know about the event. I
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unfortunately couldn't make it, so I won't be there, but I'll definitely be
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uh checking out what else is is going to be shown off. There's uh there's a few
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things that are rumored. Uh Sharp is looking to introduce 8K displays as
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early as October of uh this year. So,
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that is some pretty bananas stuff right there. Um what else we got? Oh, this is
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this is terrible. A 14-year-old student was arrested for bringing a homemade
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clock to
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school. And before any of you ask, yes,
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his last name was Muhammad, which
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is not an excuse for arresting him.
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Anyway, we'll we'll Yeah, we'll we'll get into that a little bit more later.
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And this is this is more big news. Actually, there really is a lot this
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week. Um, oh boy. Uh, Jim Keller has left the
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building at AMD. He had come back after
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a stint at Apple working as the lead architect on the A4 and A5 and had come
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back to sort of let AMD's CPU division
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rise from the ashes, etc. And yeah, and he's gone. So, uh, and he's gone. So,
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so, uh, we we'll have to we'll we'll talk about what this might mean for AMD
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over the next couple of years and then possibly over the longer term. So,
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without further ado, I'm going to roll the
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intro. I've got people saying to move the mic away. I could just get a pop
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filter. I don't know where it is, though. Um, so yeah, there's that. And
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the show is no longer powered by Razer Coms. That is an
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extraordinarily old old version of the intro. There you go. I'll see if you
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guys are I'll see if you guys are I'll see if you guys are happy now. So, I'll
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do my best over here. Going to be all like, "Hi, Twitch chat. I don't have
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Luke to talk to this week, so I'll have to settle for Twitch chat." No offense
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you guys, but you are a poor substitute for the uh for the the sexy mastadon of
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a man that normally normally sits next to me. I just realized actually too that
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I'm kind of on his side. Like I don't know how many of you share a bed with
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someone, you know, a significant other, you know, your mom or whatever. I don't
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judge. Um but it's weird. Like try try
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laying down on the wrong side and you're just
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like this is weird. I need to roll. I need to roll now. I need to roll now.
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It's kind of the same thing. Actually, this I highly recommend. If you guys are
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watching the archive of the show, then you can pause the pause the show and do
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this now. If you're live, then you might have to wait till after the show. But if
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you ever drink from like um from the faucet, like just kind of
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you're like, "Oh, I'm thirsty. I'm in the kitchen. and I'll have dirty a glass if I get a glass. So, I'll just put my
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head under the faucet and drink from there. Try doing it the other way. It's
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like the most bizarre thing. I was like, "Oh, my mouth doesn't know how to do
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this. It's super weird stuff." And I will stop. Actually, I'm not even really
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stalling for anything. I I'm legitimately not having any technical
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difficulties so far this week. So, uh I'm feeling pretty good. Why don't we
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jump right into our first topic here? I'm going to grab the grab the link for
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y'all in the chat. And I'm not going to do links the complicated way, so they're going to be kind of ugly and all that,
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but uh that's okay. We can live with that. The original poster for this is
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Dat Speed over on the forum. Thank you very much for posting this in the news
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section. And the article here is from Windows Central. So, it shouldn't be any
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huge surprise that with uh both Broadwell and Skylake architecture CPUs
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from Intel having been released since the Surface Pro 3, which is still
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running Haswell, that there was probably going to be a Surface Pro
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4. And no, that thing that Apple
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announced back at their event was not a Surface Pro 4. You can tell because
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there's no kickstand. Ah, that's one key
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difference. And it doesn't run a proper
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OS. It runs a mobile OS. So there you
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go. And by proper OS, I don't mean that iOS is a bad operating system or it's
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not a real operating system. I just mean it's not a full fat operating system.
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You're not going to be able to load like the full Adobe Creative Suite on there
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and take advantage of that fancy stylus and all of that noise. So there's
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actually a few other things that are rumored to show up. Um, the invites
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being sent out to the media for the event are for exciting news about
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Windows 10 devices. And I did read this particular invite and I kind of went,
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well, I wasn't planning to be in New York on October the 6th and sort of I
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got a lot of crap to do in general. So, unfortunately, I can't make it. And I
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don't think they even offered to like pay for my ticket out there. So, it
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really did seem to be kind of an afterthought like, "Hey, what if that Lionus guy wants to show up?" Uh, okay.
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Yeah, let's make sure he doesn't get bounced at the door just in case. So, so
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it was one of those kinds of things and I was just like, "Yeah, I'm I'm I'm busy. I can't really make it." But that
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doesn't mean that I'm not extremely interested to see what they're going to
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be up to at the event over there. Uh some other there there are there haven't
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been a lot of hints, but some other rumors are that um they will be
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announcing the Lumia 950 and 950 XL.
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Um, yeah. Okay. And I guess that's uh
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that's that's really that's really about it. The code names for a couple of the
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devices are Talkman and Cityman, which I
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guess tells us that there's talking.
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We're aiming at like sort of the urban man. And I mean, you know how the rumor
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mill goes. What I've actually learned over the years is that once you get
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pretty close to an event or a device launch, the rumor mill is pretty much
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95% accurate with the exceptions being
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cases like like what NVIDIA pulled on I
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think it was the GTX 580 where literally okay and I'm not
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even exaggerating at all the people
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selling the product. Okay, so your EVGA
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or your your MSI or your ASUS, the
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people selling the product and the people buying the product, which was me.
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I was working at NCIX at the time before
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a few hours before the launch did not
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know the price. So, I had to cut a
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purchase order based on faith. my sales
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rep at MSI had to process that order not
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knowing how much revenue he was generating or what his commission was
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going to be like all these little details right and then NVIDIA dropped a
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bomb and dropped the price like right on the launch so there are a few exceptions
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but in general if you know a couple days or let's say even you know a few weeks
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before an iPhone 6S is announced and you know our buddy Lou over at Unbox Therapy
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shows up with iPhones own six plus cases and starts bending them or doing his
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thing. Um, it's probably real. So, it's
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real unless it's a hoax or or an intentional
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deception. Speaking of things that are real, this next topic is pretty bananas.
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So, this was posted by HK05 and the original article here is
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from the BBC. Let's go ahead and uh pull this
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baby up. the first 8K TV screen to be
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commercially available. Now, to be clear, I and and I do mean
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clear. I miss Luke. I wish he was here to laugh at my terrible jokes. Maybe
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Twitch chat is is loling right
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now. You guys, come on. It's real. Unless it's a hoax. Well, yeah. Um Okay.
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No. Is anyone Is anyone going to laugh at my joke? Haha. Yes. Thank you. The
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the no scope. You win. Oh, okay. Oh, I
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love you guys. Okay, you guys you guys made me feel good about myself and you
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made me feel like I can continue to make those jokes with impunity. Jokes on you.
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Um, so sorry. What am I talking about? Right. So, to be clear, 8K displays have
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been shown before. I've seen them in person. And I've I've been like this
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close to them and I've kind of examined them and I've gone, "Wow, that sure is a
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lot of pixels. That sure is clear." That one video file that exists in the entire
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universe of a of a locomotive at at 8K
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on the show floor at CES. But this is
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different. This is a real commercial product and
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uh is apparently going to be launching on October 30th, which is appropriate
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because that price tag is going to give you quite a scare. It's rumored to be
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somewhere in the 12. Wait, is that even right? Hold on a
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second. That must be a typo in my notes
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for this. That is a typo. So, my notes
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for the show say $12,500 to
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$13,300. Yeah, I think not. We're
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missing a zero here. Yeah. Yeah. So, the
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price is going to be well over
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$100,000. There's about $125 to
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$130,000, which is really not that
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unusual when it comes to these uh cutting edge technologies. Like that
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image is so sharp, it's cutting
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edge. Thanks, guys. Now, I've I've missed where I'm
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going with this. And you know what? It will be incredibly sharp. We're talking
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four times the number of pixels compared
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to 4K. Okay? And you know that comparison that you always see of 4K
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displays with a 1080p resolution display kind of in the corner. So 4K is four
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times the number of pixels of 1080p and
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8K is four times the pixels of 4K. So
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the resolution will be 7680x 4320.
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So NASA will be delivering 4K space
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footage beginning November 1st. Netflix and Amazon, not to mention YouTube, are
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offering 4K streaming internet video.
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Although with that said, and we've
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talked about this a fair bit. In fact, for those of you who haven't checked it
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out before, I'm just going to go ahead and uh bring up the video. I'll post it
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in the Twitch chat because if you haven't watched this particular video of
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ours, it is definitely worth worth a look. Uh 4K, is it a place? Is it worth
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it? Here we go. Oh, that's weird. Oh,
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that's just a little custom test I run. Okay, so you guys definitely want to check this out because there's a lot
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more at play when it comes to high quality picture than the resolution.
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things like, you know, dynamic range, any color grading that's being done on
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it, things like uh, you know, alterations made to sharpness to enhance
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the or detract from the picture quality.
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Um, things like the bit rate that the
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media you're actually streaming. So, just because you know
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you're you're going to, you know, watch online content in 4K doesn't actually
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necessarily mean it looks better at all than a 1080p Blu-ray. Um, speaking of
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Blu-ray, um, something something something. Can't
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remember. Uh, yeah, I think 4K Blu-rays
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are finally showing up like sometime soon or something like that. So, why am
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I talking about 4K content in the context of an 8K TV? Well, for one
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thing, upscaling is a thing and can help a little bit. And for another thing,
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it's to make the point that back when a 4K display was costing you six figures,
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um, it's not until now that you're finally getting content for it. So, I
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guess what I'm trying to say is as cool a piece of technology as this is, I
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wouldn't recommend that you run out and buy it. Now, that's not to say that
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there will be no content whatsoever. Uh, NHK, Japan Broadcasting Corporation,
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will start to broadcast in its 8K super
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high vision format sometime in
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2018. Um, so yeah, and I mean, you know what?
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This is something that a lot of people are really confused about right now, and
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that is, well, hold on a second. There's 8K cameras now. Like I I I can't I can
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never keep track of what Red calls their stupid cameras, but I I think it's
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weapon is the latest one. We went from the
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uh what just
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happened? Did my feed just cut out? I
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promise no technical diff.
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Uh did you guys ever Uh turned
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off battery.
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Uh okay. Come plug it in when you get a chance.
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Hello.
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Uh, the camera's on, right?
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Uh, the camera. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Uh,
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oh. I'm
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refreshing. It's It's on, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, there we go. How many
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times you mentioned no technical difficulty? Yeah, I know, right? All
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right, I don't remember what I was talking about anymore. So, something
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something 8K 4K something, whatever.
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Let's move on to the next topic. So, NVIDIA's Game Stream Co-op has entered
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beta. This was posted on the forum by Shadow Bullet. And our source for this
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is well, the NVIDIA.com website. So, this is some
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pretty cool stuff. And actually for us over here was one of the big highlights
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of the recent NVIDIA graphics card launch, the uh the 950. Not because, you
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know, the 950 isn't a cool card, you know, fair price and all that stuff, but
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because this kind of technology is driving gaming forward in
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a way that a new, you know, bang for the buck mid-range to low-end graphics
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processor isn't. Because quite frankly, when NVIDIA launches a GTX, you know,
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960 or 950 or whatever, they're not
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they're not breaking new ground. This is
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performance that we already had with the previous generation, just at a higher
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price point. So, like that's cool and lower prices and more performance for
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all is great, but the reason that we don't, you know, get all that excited
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about it is because it's not bringing us new gaming experiences. This on the
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other hand is some pretty cool shiz. So
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basically NVIDIA graphics card users can now phone a friend to get through a
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game's tough spots with the latest beta. So, to use GameStream Co-op, the host PC
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needs a GTX 650 or higher desktop GPU or
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a 660M or higher laptop card, a Core
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i32100 or higher CPU with at least 4 gigs of RAM, which probably you have if
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you have a current generation graphics card, and you need at least 7 megabit
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per second of upstream bandwidth along with a decent router. So after receiving
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an invite, the guest can actually launch the stream like a like a live stream of
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the game you're playing using a Google Chrome extension. So it's designed for
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DirectX9 games or higher. So unfortunately those of you who want to
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play, you know, the Matrix or whatever
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on game stream co-op, you might be you might be out of luck. And streams are
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capped at 720p 30fps with co-op sessions limited to 60 minutes at a time before
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the host needs to send another invite. But, uh, yeah, pretty darn cool. There's
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integrated YouTube upload capabilities and a new in-game overlay. So, um, yeah,
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I'm I'm I'm liking it. Oh, I remember
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what I was going to talk about next on the 8K video thing. So, some of you
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might be thinking, "Okay, Lionus, hold on a second. There's 8K cameras out
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there like uh, you know, Red's latest, you know, awesome named product or
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whatever the case may In fact, I think um I think Marcus Brownley actually has
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his camera out for the upgrade right now as we speak if he has hasn't got it back
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already. And you're probably thinking, "So, well, come on. These Hollywood guys
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out there and these, you know, big shot YouTubers with their big, you know,
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studios, why aren't they just all buying 8K cameras and releasing all their
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videos at 8K?" Because there are a lot
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of other problems. So, problem number one is the workflow. Okay, working with
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8K footage, we're talking file sizes that are massively bigger than 1080p and
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even 4K is going to put additional strain on
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your processor, on your storage devices, on your network, if you work over the
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network like we do. Uh, problem number two is on camera and generally storage
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like just storing these massive files all over the place is a significant
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issue. Okay, problem number three is
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who's watching this? And while we did
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discover that playing back 4K video on your 1080p monitor on YouTube, if you
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have the bandwidth, if you have the internet connection for it does offer a
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benefit thanks to the higher uh the higher bit rate of the
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content for 8K. I
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mean, that may be a benefit, but in that
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case, you don't need to shoot on an 8K camera anyway. You might as well shoot
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on a 1080p, even a good 1080p camera or
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a 4K camera and then just export at HK.
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Which leads us to yet another problem, and that is exporting at 8K. Uh, codec
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support really isn't there yet. Um, I exported an 8K file on a fairly powerful
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computer, very powerful 36 core machine, and it just completely crapped the bed.
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And then yet another issue is that display interfaces haven't even caught
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up yet. So even if people did want to go and buy $100,000 TVs, even if like every
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millionaire in the world was like, "We want to push 8K forward. Let's bring us
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8K now. We're going to like we're going to all buy 8K TVs if you guys will start
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broadcasting in 8K." And uh the issue is that I don't think we even have a
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display interface that is gonna like I don't even know how they're planning to
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drive this thing. Maybe HDMI 2.0 30 Hz.
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Maybe that'll work. I don't even know cuz HDMI 2.0 I know can do 40k 60 Hz but
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uh maybe you guys will maybe you guys will have to let me know. And then and
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then the final the final issue with 8K that will I think really like I think 8K
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adoption and you guys can you guys can you guys can quote me on this. 8K
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adoption will be as much slower than 4K
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adoption as 4K was than
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1080p. And 1080p was relatively uh was
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relatively fast. 4K is taking forever
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because you're counting on all these infrastructure upgrades in the back end.
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It's it's almost no content that's being
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broadcast like via traditional broadcast in 4K uh with only like web companies
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doing what I would call cheapo 4K because there hasn't been an
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infrastructure upgrade to make it possible. Not really. we're still
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talking bit rates that are quite low
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compared to, you know, something like a 1080p blue Blu-ray, even though you've
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upped the resolution. So, so all these infrastructure upgrades, I think 8K
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could be, you know, 10 years, 20 years
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before anyone even gives a crap at all.
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And the reason for that is that it all comes down to Apple's retina marketing.
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And I'm not saying Apple's retina marketing in the in the sense that like
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because Apple's full of snake oil and they've convinced someone everyone that
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you know retina is the only thing that's important or or whatever. Um but because
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of the retina concept in which there's actually a fair
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bit of truth to be had, you know, with a with a good quality display with
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accurate color management and with high
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contrast which matters more to image quality than you would think. And I
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don't mean turning up the contrast knob. That's bad. I mean high high a high
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difference between the brightness level of white versus the brightness level of
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black. Um so something something right the
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basically the concept that there's a certain number of pixels needed at the
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optimal or usual viewing distance to make it so that the viewer cannot
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discern any additional improvement in
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image quality from adding more pixels.
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And I would make the argument that 1080
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is already there unless you've got like eagle eye vision. 4K, yeah, you'll
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probably see some improvement, especially once you start seeing content
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that was shot in 4K, which isn't going
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to look quite as clean and quite as crisp on a 1080p display. like it like
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the content improvement is going to be as much probably of what you see in
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terms of wow 4K is so much better as the resolution improvement and going from 4K
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to 8K at what would be the typical like we've gotten to the to the limit of how
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big of a TV people want to put in their living rooms like I don't know about you
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guys but my living room doesn't have room for a 100inch TV so TVs are going
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to be and and there's there shipping logistical like like it's hard to it's
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hard to ship around TVs that are bigger than that. They're very easy to damage.
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They're hard to lift. Like, like we're pretty much at the limit now in terms of
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what people are going to want for a typical living room TV screen. Now, the
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home theater guys, they're a different ball of wax, but they always have been,
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and they're going to keep wanting, you know, projectors or like, you know, roll
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out displays that are, you know, 150 in or whatever the case may be. But but for
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now, 8K is not going to offer a tangible
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benefit for normal users putting normalsiz TVs in normal homes and
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sitting a normal distance away from them. You can mark my words on that. 8K
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already doesn't matter. But hey, if you want to have dem bragging rights or
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whatever, then you can drop $130,000 on
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a Sharp 8K display and you can feel pretty good about yourself because
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that'll be Apparently Twitch Chat wants Dennis.
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I don't know. Hey, Dennis, do you want to come say hi to Twitch chat?
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Well, no, you have to come over here. Also, you have to be Dennis.
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I am Dennis. Hello. You are not Dennis.
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And oh my goodness. Well, okay. Dennis is on his
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way over. Twitch chat is getting what they wanted. Apparently Burkel's on his
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way over, too. I didn't know if you were talking to me or not. I I wasn't talking
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to you. You can No, I am talking to you, Dennis. No, I I was talking to Burkel
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when I said I wasn't talking to you. Okay,
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the microphone's here.
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Hello. What? What's going on?
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Okay. Thank you, Dennis. Is there anything happening? No, no, that's
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that's an image of us. Oh, cool. The
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camera's over there.
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Rolling shooting something.
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Carry on, guys. Are we too loud over there? No, no, no, not at all. Uh,
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Dennis. We actually had someone post on the forum that apparently we all hate
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Dennis or something like that. Do you think I'd hire him if I didn't
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like him? If I didn't think he was a fantastic member of our team? And Dennis
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doesn't have to be here. He's a highly skilled individual. Like, he he probably
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doesn't get enough credit for all the stuff that he's been doing around here.
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Uh Dennis has edited uh personal rig update part one on the LTT channel. He
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also edited the um the uh ah right, that
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is a cool video. the uh the desk PC
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build with like the the components clipped into well not okay I won't spoil
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the surprise but however they're attached to the bottom of the desk he filmed and edited that on a Saturday no
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less totally totally good guy uh he edits almost all of Fast as possible now
27:35
so so yeah he's an extremely valuable member of the team and I'd like to
27:39
dispel any rumors that we don't uh we don't love Dennis around
27:43
here all right let's go ahead and move On to our
27:48
next topic. This is some cool stuff. The original article here is from
27:53
bgr.com and I'm sorry I've been forgetting to post links for you guys. I
27:58
suck. And the OP on the forum was Joss.
28:02
Cool stuff. This transparent solar
28:06
powered battery looks like a futuristic Tony Stark invention is the headline
28:12
over there. And it looks like some pretty cool stuff. So, it's a fully
28:16
transparent solar cell that could in theory turn every window and screen into
28:23
a power source. Like remember on your Game Gear, you know, it would come with
28:28
a warning that says, "Do not leave the screen in direct
28:32
sunlight." That could be a thing of the past. What if it's a requirement that
28:38
you run your devices with the screen in direct sunlight? Yeah. Now, that's a
28:42
future that I'm talking about. So, this was developed by a team of researchers
28:46
at the co Koga Quinn. Yeah. Okay.
28:49
Whatever. Um, co I have actually have not heard of
28:54
that university before. I'm really sorry to everyone from there who's watching.
28:57
Um, and it was influenced by ubiquitous energy. So, it contains a lithium ion
29:02
battery that is not entirely transparent. It becomes slightly tinted
29:07
when exposed to sunlight. When it's fully discharged, the light transmission
29:12
transmittance rises to approximately
29:15
60%. So the team shrunk down the electrodes all the way down to around 80
29:21
to 90 nmters to allow light to pass through. So they've been working on this
29:25
technology for about 4 years since a team of researchers at Stan Stanford
29:29
came up with the concept. Uh the concept was demoed at Innovation Japan earlier
29:33
this month and it's not
29:37
clear how long it will take to be used in commercial products. So the prototype
29:43
uh currently has an efficiency of around 1%. Okay, so you know nothing super you
29:50
know world revolutionary yet but uh they think that
29:55
10% should be possible once production commences. So, it's scalable and
30:00
affordable from smartphones all the way up to industrial size Windows. And let
30:04
me tell you, if we could convert the
30:07
random sunlight coming into our warehouse and our office and heating it
30:12
up in the summer into energy, we would
30:15
be totally down for
30:18
that. I had a feeling there were like some straw pole things that I wanted to
30:23
do today. And I've completely I've completely forgotten what any of the
30:27
ideas I wanted to do were. But uh oh, I
30:30
would like to talk about a little project that I worked on
30:34
today. Just in the meantime, I'm going to request a glass of water from someone
30:40
because I have done a lot of talking today. I shot uh too fast as possible
30:46
some like random bits that someone needed for another video right before
30:50
WAN Show today. And then earlier today,
30:53
I finally did it. I've had a lot of requests for more spots for my son, and
31:02
I finally felt like he was ready to carry his dad's torch and take over
31:08
Lionus Media Group. He is hosting with
31:11
some help from dad, his very first PC
31:15
build log. Yes, my friends. My
31:18
three-year-old came into the office today. In fact, it's it's so funny. It's
31:22
like he comes in, he does a PC build log, and now he is actually in the
31:26
library having a nap. Um, so he built
31:30
his very first PC today. Taran got the
31:34
whole thing on camera and is recording it as we speak right now. And that will
31:38
be uploaded on Vessel uh this weekend, which means it should land on YouTube
31:43
sometime next week. So, that is going to be some good stuff. Look at that. He
31:48
even put ice in it. You are such a suckup.
31:58
That is not going to last long. So,
32:02
let's go ahead and jump into our next topic here. This is really sad. Uh, this
32:09
was posted by Rune on the forum and uh
32:12
it's just like
32:16
I don't know. I don't I don't really know what is there what is there to
32:19
really say about this other than than that it totally sucks. This has been
32:22
making this has been making waves this week. Uh the post that I've got on it
32:26
here is uh from the Verge. So 18-year-old Ahmed Muhammad arrested for
32:32
bringing a homemade clock to school.
32:36
Now, to be clear, he has been released,
32:40
but not until after he'd been Okay.
32:44
Well, here, why don't we start at the beginning? So, he lives in Irving, and has a keen interest in robotics and
32:49
engineering. Cool. All right. Uh, put the device together on Sunday night. was
32:54
pulled out of class the next day, interviewed by police officers, and
32:59
taken in handcuffs to juvenile detention after being told by teachers that his
33:04
creation looked like a bomb.
33:08
Now, I mean, is this is this what
33:11
happens? We have Looney Tunes to thank. This is what happens when an entire
33:17
generation of kids grows up watching,
33:20
you know, wy coyote strap himself to,
33:24
you know, rockets and build bombs out of
33:28
like dynamite sticks with clocks attached to them on Saturday mornings
33:34
and then grows up and becomes the adults
33:38
because a bomb. So, so to be clear, the simple device was created from a circuit
33:42
board and a power supply wired to a digital display all strapped inside a
33:46
case with a tiger hologram on the
33:50
front. So, because everyone thinks that anything with a display on the front
33:55
looks like a bomb, this guy gets taken away from
34:00
school in handcuffs. I mean, what is
34:04
this what is this doing for and I like I
34:08
tend not to get into the whole like, you know, what's the right way to combat
34:12
racism because quite frankly, it's a little outside my wheelhouse. I'm going
34:16
to stick to building PCs, which is what I'm usually good at.
34:21
But does this seem like the kind of thing that's going to break down race
34:25
barriers? you know, hauling away the brown kid in handcuffs because he had
34:31
the audacity to bring something to school that someone thought looked like
34:35
a bomb when the adult way, and you know,
34:40
at 14 you should be able to deal with this the adult way. The adult way to
34:44
deal with this would be to be like, "Hey, what is that?" And he'd be like,
34:47
"A clock." And you'd be like, "Oh, cool. Show me how it works. We could just
34:51
communicate with each other. Seems like kind of an okay idea. I know I'm making
34:56
statements and then I'm, you know, my my intonation at the end of my sentences
35:01
sounds like a question, but it's because I'm questioning everything right now.
35:06
So, very frustrating.
35:09
Um, but I mean,
35:13
basically, the good news is that the PR
35:18
train is rolling on this whole thing. Barack Obama has invited him to the
35:22
White House saying that the states needs more kids like him who are taking an
35:27
interest in being makers at a young age. Uh Mark Zuckerberg has reached out and
35:32
invited him to Facebook HQ. Um a JPL
35:36
engineer has invited him to come check out a Mars rover whenever he wants. So
35:39
to be clear, happy ending to the story, but this is just insanity. and and and
35:46
at any stage someone could and should
35:50
have stopped it. So if some kid was like, "Hey, he's got a bomb." All the
35:56
teacher had to do was go and look at it. And you know, it's one thing if he, you
36:00
know, plants it in a kid's locker he doesn't like and phones in a bomb threat
36:04
to the school. Now we're having a serious conversation about, you know,
36:07
young Ahmed needing a stern talking to and, you know, should probably be hauled
36:12
off in handcuffs. But it's another thing if some kid's like, "Oh yeah, you know
36:15
that guy has a bomb." And the teacher looks at it for freaking you're supposed
36:20
to have a degree. You're supposed to be an educator for like two seconds. Talks
36:23
to the kid for two seconds and avoids the call to the cops. And then the cops
36:28
have every opportunity to tell everyone to calm the truck down. It's not a bomb,
36:32
which you were clearly told already, and not haul them off in handcuffs. Just
36:37
absolutely ridiculous.
36:44
I'm sorry you guys have to listen to me sucking back water, but I really, really
36:50
need it. All right, so this is good stuff. This is posted by Aming on the
36:54
forum. Thank you very much, Aming for posting this. I'm going to go ahead and
36:58
copy the link to Android
37:01
Authority. Here we go. And then let's go ahead and screen share with you guys.
37:06
Bubby, where is it? Yep, there it is. All right, Qualcomm introduces
37:10
QuickCharge 3.0, powering up devices four times faster. I always love those
37:16
claims with, you know, the little asterisk next to the number. Four times
37:20
if you compare to when it was a caveman spinning a stick like this with a wire
37:26
attached to the bottom of it, plugged into the bottom of your phone. Um, so
37:30
no, it is not four times faster than Quick Charge 2.0, 0, but it is
37:35
definitely raising the bar for fast charging and not on just Apple devices.
37:40
Like Apple has always been pretty good at this stuff. Now, in the last few
37:44
generations of Quick Charge, Qualcomm has allowed pretty much any Android
37:48
device out there, as long as they're willing to invest in the supported
37:52
products from Qualcomm, haha, uh to have fast intelligent battery charging. So,
37:57
Quick Charge 1.0 was 40% faster than
38:01
conventional charging. With Quick Charge 2.0 being 75% faster than conventional
38:07
charging and Quick Charge 3.0 being 38%
38:10
faster than Quick Charge 2.0. This is
38:14
cool. It's USB typeC ready. So, I mean,
38:19
it seems to me, and I don't have any particular industry insight on this.
38:22
Maybe someone has already covered this somewhere, in which case feel free to
38:26
tell me I'm an idiot or whatever. that it seems to me like what happened with
38:29
the OnePlus 2 was that during product
38:32
development type C the connector was ready but the the the backend quick
38:38
charge circuitry was not ready for that connector and that standard yet. So,
38:43
OnePlus was forced to release the two with the type-C connector, which was a
38:48
good call. Durability, reversability, A+
38:51
for that, but without rapid charging,
38:55
which for some people is a serious drawback. Well, now it's ready. And any
39:00
phones that we see that are developed now that the technology is finished
39:04
should be able to support both of those things at the same time.
39:08
So, aside from achieving insane charging
39:12
speeds, this is the first time that Qualcomm is using intelligent
39:15
negotiation for optimum voltage, which is a new algorithm to determine how much
39:19
voltage that they should request. So,
39:23
this will ship in devices with the Snapdragon 820, 620, 618, and
39:28
430. Good stuff. Now, here is here is a
39:34
thing though. Um, it is common knowledge
39:37
I think amongst the technology savvy
39:40
folks out there that charging your battery faster does a couple of things.
39:46
Number one is it gets you back up and running sooner and number two is it
39:51
causes your battery to heat up more. So
39:54
it causes the battery to heat up more which can in turn cause your battery to
39:59
have a lower lifespan. So, I'm
40:03
personally, well, and you can call it superstition, you can call it whatever you want. I'm personally in the uh
40:09
charging every time for the batteries that I care about at 1 amp or less camp.
40:15
I actually don't even use a 2 amp charger on my Droid Turbo unless I'm
40:20
desperate because I want this
40:24
3900 milliamp battery to keep being
40:28
capable of what a 3900 millia battery
40:31
can be for a very very long time. But,
40:35
um, you know, with that said, having the option to throw your device on the
40:39
charger for 30 minutes and get, you know, enough battery to stay out
40:44
basically all day is definitely nice.
40:47
And I'm not going to say no to future improvements in quick charge
40:52
technology. Oh, this was actually just added this was just added after the fact
40:57
to the WAN Show document. So, uh, for everyone watching right now, we are
41:03
doing a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus
41:08
giveaway. So, let's go ahead and, uh, paste that link into the Twitch chat
41:13
here. So, you guys definitely go and
41:16
check that out. Uh, let me just go
41:19
actually find out what exactly the uh, sorry, what exactly the the terms of
41:25
this are. So, we have uh Nick is actually Oh, look at that. There's a
41:30
special Linus Media Group staff thing for uh for Linus Media Group staff. I
41:35
didn't know that. I don't think I have one of those. Huh. It's pink. Love it.
41:38
All right. So, we've partnered with Samsung to give you lucky people the
41:41
opportunity to be the owner of a new Galaxy S6 Edge Plus as part of their
41:45
your best foot forward
41:49
campaign. Is it really fest foot forward? Okay. Uh, they brought
41:54
Snapchatter Shawn Durus and Viner Ray Lea out to a few outdoor music festivals
41:59
this summer and let them demonstrate how you can step your social media game up a
42:02
few notches with the camera features on their new S6 Edge and Edge Plus
42:06
smartphones. And it really is a great great camera you guys which you guys
42:11
will know if you watched out my S6 Edge review. So, how do you enter? You watch
42:16
this video which I'll go ahead and paste in the Twitch chat. Now, I think you
42:21
have to like it as well. Not 100% sure
42:24
how they're tracking that, but I think you're supposed to like it. Uh, yep. Hit
42:28
the like button uh on the videos in the series over on Samsung's channel and
42:33
comment below letting them know what your favorite feature highlighted in the
42:37
series was. So, it's one comment per person and it is a
42:41
worldwide giveaway. Good stuff. Way to
42:44
go, Nick. I guess uh so the phone will probably be shipped out by us. So there
42:50
you go, guys. Uh definitely go open that in another tab or whatever or go hit go
42:54
hit like and leave your comment now. It only takes a second and you'll be entered for a chance to win a Galaxy S6
43:00
Edge Plus, which as far as I can tell
43:03
now that I've had my hands on both of them, is basically a Note 5 with the
43:07
curve on the glass instead of the curve on the back. Um so yeah, and so far,
43:13
where is my Note 5? What the heck? Oh, well. Oh, there it
43:18
is. It's under my butt. Um, so I've been working on my Note 5 review for a little
43:22
while now. So far, wow. Really nice
43:25
phone. This is the first phone. This is
43:29
the first Note series phone that has really gotten my attention. There were
43:32
things I liked about previous ones. Um, I'm sure Ed's going to correct me here,
43:37
but I think it was a Note 2 was the last Note he had, and there were some really
43:42
great things about that phone. I mean, the huge screen is obviously nice for
43:45
content consumption. And let me tell you, with the bezels being so small on
43:49
this puppy, it really is outstanding for content consumption. It had really loud
43:54
speakers, which is something that's easier to do in a larger phone body just
43:58
because you can fit bigger speakers in it. And um yeah, anyway, really like
44:03
this phone so far. Stay tuned because my review will be coming at some point in
44:06
the future. I actually don't have an ETA on that yet.
44:13
All right. Uh, what have we got next? Oh, this is interesting. So, this was
44:17
posted by Patrick 3027 on the forum. And
44:21
the original article here is from the
44:25
BBC. Computers do not improve pupil
44:30
results, says the organization for economic cooperations and development.
44:35
So, here's the forum post over there, and let's go ahead and pull this baby
44:39
up. H so investing heavily in school
44:43
computers and classroom technology does not improve pupils performance says a
44:48
global study from the OECD. The think tank says frequent use
44:53
of computers in schools is more likely to be associated with lower
44:59
results. That is very interesting.
45:03
Um so Tom Bennett
45:07
um a government expert on pupil behavior said that teachers have been dazzled by
45:12
school computers. So the the report from
45:15
the OECD examines the impact of school technology on international test results
45:20
such as the Pisa test taken in more than 70 countries and tests measuring digital
45:25
skills. So, an average daily minutes for countries using the internet at school
45:29
graph is available right here. Also on the
45:33
BBC see if we can find it. Yep, here we go. So, your top five average daily
45:38
minutes using internet at school. Okay.
45:42
And then let me see. Number of students per school computer. Top five, bottom
45:47
five, bunch of really good stuff. You guys should definitely check it out. Here's a link directly to the article.
45:52
But I guess I would like to bring up a few things that it feels like we're
45:59
overlooked a little bit here. Okay, so Singapore with only moderate use of
46:02
technology in school is top for digital skills,
46:05
but okay, we're we're I I went to Singapore quite recently and what I'll
46:10
tell you about Singapore is that is one
46:13
wealthy ass country. Okay, straight up.
46:17
That is that is that is a like a a an
46:20
elite of the elite
46:23
haven. And I mean everything from how
46:27
totally unaffordable cars are to, you
46:31
know, if you don't want to live in the government funded housing to how totally
46:35
unaffordable property is like Singapore. What I'm trying to say is
46:41
that they're using their computers at home if they're not using them at school
46:45
and developing digital skills that way. You don't get computer skills by not
46:50
investing in computer technology in the
46:53
education system. Like the fact that I
46:56
know anything about computers. I was introduced to computers at school. Okay,
47:02
you can't just not have it at all. And I'm not saying that everything should be
47:05
on an iPad either. I genuinely don't
47:09
think that that's the right approach. And I think there is a value to working
47:12
with a pen or a pencil and a piece of paper. But, and I guess this is part of
47:18
what the report is saying, you have to strike a happy medium. I guess just the
47:21
part that I feel like was missed here is that it's not necessarily about, you
47:26
know, internet use or computer use. It's about smart computer use. Like, you
47:32
know, that uh that news that broke a little while ago about China investing
47:36
heavily in 3D printers in their schools.
47:39
That makes a ton of sense to me. You could tell me that my kid is going to
47:44
have an, you know, an hour block two times a week every week on, you know,
47:50
uh, digital 3D modeling and 3D printing
47:53
and design. And I would say, is that it like is that enough? because that is the
47:59
future. Whereas, you know, if you're just kind of, you know, giving students
48:04
access to computers and these kind of like hokey educational software programs
48:10
that are like here is an onscreen, you know, keyboard,
48:15
piano. Oh, you learned a thing. Yay. Where it's basically just a game and the
48:20
the the skills that are being introduced are very very rudimentary. Um or you
48:24
know like like when when and I don't know how much it's changed and I'm going
48:27
to learn all these things now that my kids are finally getting to school age
48:30
but like when we had computer lab time we were doing crap like playing Oregon
48:34
Trail and you could make the argument you know oh well there's historical
48:38
value there learning about the settlers or
48:42
some crap or whatever but like come on
48:46
it's not like we couldn't have covered everything that there is to know in that
48:50
game in like a couple of a couple of lessons and then moved on to to
48:55
something else. So, I don't know, man.
48:59
There's uh education is changing cuz I mean, here's another thing that I'll
49:03
kind of throw at you guys. Like, I actually limit um fairly strictly my
49:10
son's access to screens. I don't think
49:14
that a three-year-old needs to spend a ton of time playing video games,
49:17
watching movies, um or otherwise sitting still. I think they need to be running
49:21
around. I think they need to be building towers out of blocks. I think they need
49:25
to be doing hands-on things because, and
49:28
you know, you hear the opposite argument a lot. You know, well, how will they be
49:32
prepared for the digital age and the devices and the blah blah blah? Come on,
49:36
get real. That stuff is so intuitive and so fun that he's going to do that crap
49:42
on his own without any encouragement from me whatsoever. The world we live in
49:46
now is so connected digitally that he's not even ever going to think about, you
49:52
know, physical media. You know, the concept of of a of a file in a folder on
49:59
on a a drive or in the cloud somewhere
50:02
is going to be completely second nature to him. I don't have to teach him that
50:06
crap. Um, so anyway, with all of that said, in
50:11
the limited amount of time that he has spent, you know, on YouTube or um
50:18
actually most mostly YouTube, now that I think about it, the kid is three and can
50:24
already read a fair amount. And I I I will say straight up,
50:31
I'm going to I'm going to give these guys a shout out. I think it's called
50:34
like Kids TV123 or some crap like that.
50:38
Uh, let me see if I can find it. Yep, Kids
50:42
TV123. This YouTube channel,
50:45
man. As far as I can tell, they taught my kid basically everything he knows.
50:50
And I can sing their phonics song off by
50:54
heart. Pretty pretty darn good here. A
50:58
is for apple. Aapp is for ball. BBB. And you know what
51:05
I mean? My my kid is not only It's really funny. We um we did an
51:08
orientation for his prechool a couple
51:12
weeks ago and the the teacher was saying, you know, oh, I had a really
51:16
advanced student once that knew the whole alphabet, but this is more of just
51:20
like a play and get familiar with the concept of a classroom program. It's at
51:23
the local community center. Anyway, I was like, sorry, you had a pupil who
51:27
knows the alphabet. He's known the full alphabet and all the phonetic sounds of
51:31
all the letters since he was two. Um, so
51:35
yeah, thank you YouTube, I guess.
51:38
So, I didn't really lay down a firm opinion on any of that, did I? I guess
51:43
what I was trying to say is it's not clear-cut. and the conclusions that
51:47
especially some readers of the BBC article and other articles about this um
51:53
are drawing that like oh you know there's a negative correlation between
51:57
computer time and results are not necessarily accurate because it's way
52:01
more to do with how the computer time is being used and yeah how the computer
52:07
time is being used like I really don't think that doing addition on an iPad
52:11
brings anything to the table versus doing addition on a piece of paper and a
52:16
pencil. Um, but you know, things like
52:20
like a 3D modeling class or whatever else, like 3D 3D art, sign me and all my
52:26
kids up and I I wouldn't mind, you know, having him come home and show me his
52:29
homework, that kind of stuff,
52:33
too. All right. Oh, cool. Oh, never mind. That's
52:39
embargoed. I was about to tell you guys a thing, and I will not be doing that.
52:45
Oh, fly just hit me in the head. Intel launches and this is uh this is
52:50
definitely something that I'm happy to hear about. Let's go ahead and post this
52:54
in Twitch chat. Man, I am loving my internet connection right now. We just
52:59
upgraded to Gigabit up and down and I'm
53:03
like super stoked on super stoked on my life right now. Uh automotive security
53:08
review board to ensure the cyber security of cars. This is something we
53:13
don't appreciate enough about Intel. Sometimes it's not all about how fast
53:18
can you make the transistor switch and like, you know, how much cash can you
53:23
stick on there. They're involved in a lot of bigger picture stuff that we all
53:28
benefit from whether we buy Intel CPUs or not. So, the reports of hacked cars,
53:34
in fact, we've talked about it on the WAN Show, have been pretty regular lately with about one in five vehicles
53:39
on the road worldwide. um sort of projected to have some kind
53:44
of wireless network connection by 2020.
53:48
Meaning more than 250 million connected vehicles could potentially be affected
53:52
by these issues that have been showing up in the news like really more often
53:58
than we'd like in the last little bit. This is all according to Gartner. uh
54:02
Intel so then announced the formation of the automotive security review board the
54:06
ASRB which aims to lessen and address autocyber security risks. So their
54:12
research ARM is tasked with performing continuous security tests and
54:15
inspections and will pick from top security industry talent and Intel has
54:21
also published the first white paper version of the automotive security best
54:26
practices. They will provide incentives by awarding a new car to the researcher
54:31
that makes the most significant contributions in advancing automobile
54:34
cyber security. Well, dang, man. I wish I had
54:40
that kind of capability. I could use a new car, as many of you probably know.
54:46
On the subject of a new car for Linus, let's talk about the sponsors for
54:49
today's show. That's actually pretty funny. Uh
54:54
Squarespace. So, okay. Do you guys know what Squarespace is? Let's see. Twitch
55:00
chat. Okay, whatever. There's a delay, so I'm sure they're all going to tell me
55:04
they do. Uh, Squarespace is the place to go if you want to build yourself a
55:08
beautiful looking website that is also extremely functional and not to mention
55:13
easy to use. They've got state-of-the-art technology. It's all
55:17
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cool stuff. Everyone's giving me crap about the Where's My Finger thing. Come
60:46
on. I can't be an expert on everything,
60:49
you know, and things being in front of other things. That's some complicated
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stuff right there. Uh, what else we got for Oh, this is great. So, the OP here
60:58
is Prof over on the forum. Fan
61:01
freakingtastic friends. Uh,
61:05
so I actually, okay, I haven't looked too much into this one yet, but the
61:09
original article here is from CBC. Robot ethicist calls for ban on sex
61:16
robots. Now, we've talked about this on the show before. There are some pretty
61:23
like I don't know what to say. I don't want to be offensive, but for me
61:28
personally, so take it as, you know, my personal, you know, ignorant hate speech
61:33
or whatever, some pretty
61:36
creepy sex toys out there, like some pretty weird stuff where, you know, they
61:43
want to use AI to make the interaction seem like the toy is enjoying it. And,
61:48
you know, super realistic heads and super realistic bodies. And I'll tell
61:53
you, when I was over in Japan just kind of walking around in stores, I found
61:57
some stuff that I was just like, "Wow, really?" Um, so maybe I just live under
62:00
a rock and this is all like totally totally normal stuff. But, uh, Dr. Dr.
62:05
Richardson, Dr. Kathleen Richardson is a robot ethicist at Deontford University
62:10
in Lychester and she believes that these
62:14
robot sex dolls reinforce traditional
62:18
stereotypes of women and view that it is a
62:22
relationship that oh right so this this like sort of
62:27
traditional stereotype of women and and a view that a relationship doesn't need
62:31
to be anything more than physical. Um,
62:34
so sex dolls on the market are becoming more sophisticated. Um, so company,
62:39
there's a company called True Companion that boasts that it's developing the
62:43
world's first sex robot and promises to
62:46
launch its first doll, Roxy with 3X's,
62:49
of course, later this year. There are apparently thousands of pre-orders at a
62:54
retail price of $7,000. With the CEO of True Companion
62:59
commenting, "We are not supplanting the wife or trying to replace a girlfriend.
63:04
This is a solution for people who are between relationships or someone who has
63:09
lost a spouse and wants the doll to be a
63:12
self-learning engine for the
63:17
user." Wow. I think we've actually run
63:20
this straw poll before, but I don't remember the results. And I always love
63:25
to hear from you guys. So, sex doll. And this is going to be a bit of a different
63:29
phrasing of the question. So, is it And
63:33
I want to be really careful with the use of this word because the word wrong
63:38
has a lot of negative connotation, you
63:42
know. Yeah. Let's not go with the word wrong. Let's go with sex
63:46
dolls. agree or
63:50
disagree. Okay, so I'm keeping it very
63:55
general. So basically, do you think and
63:58
and you can interpret this? I leave it open for interpretation a little bit. Do
64:01
you think people should should buy them? Do you think people should make them? Do
64:06
you think people should be allowed to buy them? Should be allowed to make
64:09
them? like do you think do you agree or
64:13
do you not agree? They they should or they should not at all. And I and I know
64:18
that I hope most of you kind of get what I mean. So here we go. Let's have a look
64:22
at the results for that straw poll in a little bit and I'll go ahead and move on
64:25
to my next
64:29
topic. This is this is so awesome. So the original poster here is Al
64:35
Jolina. I straight up have no idea how to pronounce that. I'm going to go ahead
64:39
and throw that link in
64:44
there. I'm losing track of my links here. There we go. So, the original
64:49
article here is from Phone Arena. The Sony Z5 Premium apparently only renders
64:56
media in 4K and the rest in 1080p for a
65:01
two-day battery. And I can tell you right now, I'm not getting two days out of that battery. And I'm sure a lot of
65:05
people aren't. but you know maybe maybe
65:08
someone does or whatever. So there was a lot of concern about the absolutely
65:14
unbelievable like a lot of people I talked to didn't even believe the rumors
65:19
that it was going to have a 4K display. So the astounding 800 plus pixel per
65:24
inch density that is a huge first like
65:29
way far and away from others. The Galaxy S6 for example has 577 pixels per inch.
65:35
A lot of people are saying there's no way that's true because a it would be
65:39
impossible to manufacture in any reasonable volume with reasonable yields
65:43
so at a reasonable price and b because no one is asking for this. Nobody wants
65:48
this. There's no benefit to the end user
65:51
to having a high resolution display that
65:55
just sucks more power not only itself
65:58
but also from the components that are trying to drive it. Like if you're going
66:03
to try and game on mobile in 4K, even
66:06
though the graphics are not that detailed, you're going to you're just
66:11
going to run out of frame buffer. Like you're just going to run out of memory.
66:14
It's just not a good idea. So there you
66:18
go. Um they showed 10 so they show 1080p
66:23
resolution for for the for the like the
66:26
actual so so what it'll show to an application is 1080p resolution. So
66:30
it'll render at 1080p rather than the display's actual 2160x 3840 pixel
66:37
count. So this does raise some concerns
66:41
about whether the display will look good running at a non-native resolution,
66:45
something that is definitely an advantage for any pixelbased display,
66:49
whether it's LCD or uh OLED or whatever
66:53
else the case may be. But um as long as
66:57
they handle it correctly, I really don't think that's a huge issue. I guess for
67:01
me, I'm just sort of scratching my head. So, as
67:05
someone who already doesn't believe we need 1440p at 5 1/2 in, I'm I'm I'm
67:12
really scratching my head as to why we're even bothered with this. So, it's
67:15
got a 3430 mAh battery, which I call
67:19
total BS on the 2A battery life with, by the way. and we're throwing a 4K display
67:24
at it, which straight up, I mean, I've talked about Retina already on this
67:28
show. Sort of the Retina display concept, which already we won't be able
67:32
to tell, especially because where are you guys getting 4K like good quality 4K
67:37
content on your phones? And like, I don't know. There there's a hund there's
67:41
a hundred reasons I can think of why this is why this is totally stupid. But
67:45
if you wanted to be a baller and have the first 4K phone display, then I guess
67:50
you can pick up a Z5 Premium. And I'm I I haven't uh I haven't really managed to
67:55
make a point here, but I guess there just isn't really one. Let's go back to
67:58
the sex dolls. Here we go. Sex dolls. Agree or
68:04
disagree? So, uh a significant 54% of
68:08
you figure what the hey, bring it on. Sex dolls. um with 20% of you
68:15
um maybe having concerns about whether
68:19
people will bother to maintain traditional relationships if they have
68:23
the option of just having a sex doll and
68:27
fulfilling those particular needs. I mean, let's let's let's let's be honest
68:30
with ourselves. you know, a fair amount of the effort that we put into, you
68:34
know, combing our hair in the morning and not smelling bad is about trying to
68:40
attract a mate. Um, so if we feel like
68:44
we don't have to bother, then you know, are we Well, apparently only 20% of you
68:48
care about that with 26% of you figuring
68:51
turnip is the only response there with
68:54
any merit. All right.
68:59
Oh, this is just such a bummer for
69:05
AMD. Here we go. I went ahead and posted that there. Uh, the original article
69:10
here is from WCCF
69:14
Tech. Jim Keller has left AMD. Oh, can
69:20
you not, please? Thank you. Jim Keller has left AMD. So, uh, he was well known
69:25
for having a a a heavy hand. Well, no,
69:28
heavy hand has a particular meaning. So, having his hands directly on AMD's K7
69:33
and K8 series microprocessors. So, that
69:37
was really the heyday of AMD, you guys. Like, AMD rode K8. I mean, a lot of what
69:44
they did with K8, um, you know, after
69:47
Jim Keller left was just like adding
69:50
glue to the design that was already there. like you know it's like oh well
69:55
we've got like uh we got like one of these K8 cores why don't we like do two
69:59
now because we have a you know smaller manufacturing process. Um so he actually
70:04
left uh in 1998 and was involved in Apple's
70:09
A4 and A5 SOC's after joining Apple in
70:13
2008. So yeah he has worked on some
70:16
pretty bigname stuff. So he came back to
70:20
AMD in 2012 to work on their to work on
70:24
basically digging them out of the hole that they were in for desktop CPU
70:30
performance. So, um, code name Zen,
70:34
AMD's upcoming x86 cores are targeting a
70:38
40% improvement in per clock performance
70:42
over AMD's previous generation processors, which, let's just face it,
70:48
have absolutely stunk. Like AMD managed to
70:52
take the uh, what was like the last like
70:55
sort of compelling one? I guess you could say the 1100T was their last six
71:00
core. They managed to introduce 8 core processors that legitimately had lower
71:05
IPC than their previous six core and like it hasn't really gotten any better
71:10
from there. I mean we keep getting you know better on board graphics which you
71:14
know AMD was really banging that drum like yeah we got APUs we got APUs we got
71:18
APUs and by the time anyone cares and by the time any applications leverage this
71:23
Intel's going to have onboard graphics that are like as good or better. Oh
71:27
crap. What are we going to do now? So, um, it looks like the plan, you know, in
71:32
2012 was to bring back the CPU on the
71:35
AMD side and and and hit it hard. And so, he's been there for a few years now
71:40
working on that. And, uh, now he's gone.
71:43
Now, with that said, something a lot of people don't really understand is that a
71:49
CPU or a graphics processor, you know, any of these types of products is being
71:54
worked on literally for years. So, if
71:58
Zen is going to launch in 2016, I think Q4 is the current rumor. If Zen is going
72:03
to launch in quarter 4 of 2016,
72:06
um, and he's been working on it since 2012, probably so much of the groundwork
72:12
has been laid at this point that him leaving could have little to no impact
72:17
on Zen. So, I've seen a lot of people,
72:20
you know, knee-jerk reactions to this going, "Oh, no, AMD is doomed. They're not going to have Zen. They're not going
72:25
to have a processor. Um, that's that's
72:28
totally not not going to be the case. I
72:32
I hope I mean I can't say Zen's not doomed, but what I'll say is that Jim
72:36
Keller leaving now is probably not going to be the reason for Zen to be doomed if
72:40
it does end up being doomed. Um, however, we look at what happened
72:46
last time he worked on a project over there
72:50
and then we left and then it was like kind of super bad after that. Um, I'm
72:55
not saying that won't happen again, but I mean, it's not like he also hasn't
72:59
been there working with his team for a few years, you know, hopefully training
73:04
people. I'm not saying obviously that he's the only person who worked on Zen.
73:08
We've got an extraordinarily skilled team of engineers over at AMD. So, you
73:13
know, it's not it is not a one-man job designing a CPU. So, there you go. Read
73:19
into it however much or however little you want, but he's gone. And uh that's a
73:25
bummer. Speaking of things that are a bummer, this is like, do you not charge
73:33
us enough already? You know, our original article
73:38
here is from RS Technica. Let's go ahead and pull this up. Are you not already
73:43
sucking us dry? Empty Epson ink
73:46
cartridges have been discovered to be
73:49
still 20% full.
73:55
20%. So high-end. And this is this is not like your cheapo consumer like we
74:01
need to bill you for for a couple more dollars, you know, nonsense here. This
74:06
is like this is like high-end printers
74:10
where they're basically just scamming the customer out of 15th of what they
74:16
paid an awful lot of money to have. So,
74:19
this uh so a printing company cut open some cartridges to see how empty they
74:24
really were. So, this is a high-end printer that retails for about
74:29
$3,000 or about
74:32
$5,000. And basically, their comments to
74:35
Epson, which they have made multiple times asking about this, like, hey,
74:39
what's the deal? These are like 15 to 20% full still, um have just gone
74:44
unanswered. So, they still have 60 to 80 mills of ink. When you consider that
74:49
inkjet printer ink is as expensive or
74:53
more than high-end perfume, you better have a freaking good excuse for wasting
75:00
60 to 80 ms of this stuff. And on top of
75:03
that, this is this is hilarious. Um, so
75:06
this printer has something along the
75:09
Yeah, there you go. The Stylus Pro 9900
75:13
has 11 cartridges. So, if you're
75:16
throwing away $50 of ink per cartridge,
75:20
changing out your 11 cartridges, we're talking
75:24
$550. That is so
75:28
rubbish. Like, holy crap. So, uh they're hoping that their
75:33
YouTube video will get them more exposure so that Epson will actually
75:38
have to answer for what they're doing. And I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to
75:42
link that here. You guys should definitely check that out. do share it
75:45
because the more pressure that we can put not just on Epson, the more pressure
75:49
that we can put on ink cartridge companies to accurately report the ink
75:53
in them, the better. And it's not just about reporting. Like, it's one thing to
75:58
have electronic reporting for how much ink is left. That's great. I love that.
76:02
And I even understand if they're going to buffer the reporting and it's going
76:05
to go down to zero when there's actually, you know, 15 to 20% left
76:10
because you can't account for, you know, cleaning cycles or or or whatever. Okay?
76:14
So, there's there's stuff that you might not be able to account for. You're not
76:19
going to get every last drop out of anything. It might cling to the side.
76:22
So, fine. Fine. I understand that.
76:25
But what I don't understand is that you
76:28
don't keep printing until you're done.
76:31
It's like it's like if your car has a fuel gauge that goes to E, you know,
76:37
when it's, you know, pretty empty, which a lot of them do. In fact, consumers
76:42
have said that they prefer that that and and you watch your car. Okay. So, it
76:47
stays on full for a bit and then it kind
76:50
of, you know, blitzes its way for a bit
76:55
and then it kind of hangs around half and then it goes down faster to kind of
77:01
the bottom and then it like hangs out there for a bit and the needle on some
77:05
cars will actually go past the E. Like, it's hilarious. Um, but that doesn't
77:10
mean you stop driving when it hits the E if there's still gas in the tank. Come
77:14
on, man. If I want to like ride my ink
77:17
cartridges to the end, then I should have the right to do
77:21
that. All right, what else we got here?
77:24
Wow, this show has flown by. It's after 6 already. Holy cow. Um, this is cool.
77:32
So, this was posted by Alex goes high on the forum. Let's go ahead and copy that
77:36
link there. Boop. And the original article here is
77:41
from The Verge. Here's our best look yet at BlackBerry's upcoming Android slider.
77:47
This is a phone that could get my attention
77:52
because as much as this marks me as a
77:55
bit of an old guy, I am from the
77:58
physical phone keyboard era. Okay? And I
78:02
still touch type better on a physical
78:05
phone than I do on a touchcreen. I've seen people who can touch type on a
78:08
touchcreen faster than I ever was on a physical phone. And kudos to them. I'm
78:13
not one of them. Maybe partly uh due to the fact that I'm switching phones all
78:17
the time, so the spacing is always changing around on me. But I'm not going to make excuses. I'm better touch typing
78:22
on a physical keyboard than I am on a not physical keyboard. And that looks
78:26
absolutely fantabulous, doesn't it? If you're into the Blackberry Blackberry
78:31
keyboard, see, it's not actually inordinately thick. You might be into
78:36
this particular device. And this hands-on from the Verge is looking pretty good. If other things about it
78:40
are good, this could be this could be a
78:44
winner. So, other specs, it has a 5.4 in quad HD display, a Snapdragon 808
78:48
processor, 3 gigs of RAM, and an 18 megapixel rear camera. To be clear, the
78:52
18 megapixels means nothing. So, let's
78:55
wait until we see some test images from it. Uh, what else we got for rapid fire
79:00
topics today? Uh, Google accidentally launched
79:04
climate change. Uh, this was originally posted by Jaws on the forum. Now, to be
79:09
clear, they didn't change the climate, which is what the headline
79:13
there actually kind of sounds like. And the original article here is from
79:17
Android Headlines. It's great. Our internet is
79:21
so fast now that I always know that it's
79:24
someone else's site that's slow. Awesome. Um, so it's Google Maps
79:30
is testing a climate change feature. And what it basically did, Can I help you?
79:34
Just want to say hi. Oh, okay. Hi. Hi.
79:38
It's not after party. It's still the show. Okay. Well, it's after six.
79:43
Uh, so last Friday, a worst case scenario report was released to the news
79:48
media about the effects of sea levels if
79:52
we burn all of our fossil fuels. On the same day, Google turned on a new feature
79:56
in Google Maps that showed the California coastline underwater with
80:00
just a 2in Ryzen sea levels. So this
80:04
was their attempt to raise awareness about the effects of fossil fuels. The
80:09
Los Angeles area was the only part of the country where this feature was
80:13
turned on and uh Google states that it
80:16
was a coincidence to time it with the worst case scenario report and also
80:19
blames their many map partners for the issue. It's been back to normal since
80:23
last Friday. Um I guess that's pretty much
80:28
it. I I want to thank all of you guys for tuning in to the WAN Show and I will
80:34
see you again next week. Same bat time, same bat channel. This time with no
80:39
technical difficulties. Okay, come on. It was
80:43
pretty minor this week, you guys. Was just a black screen for like a minute.
80:48
It's not that bad, right? I mean, also I guess the intro, which I'm rolling now,
80:53
which I'm trying to roll now, which
80:56
okay, didn't didn't restart on time. Okay, so dang it. Don't remember
81:03
playback position. And then when
81:06
finished, do nothing. And I think we're done here.
81:12
Thanks for watching, guys. See you next week.
81:18
Um, there's the train. Yeah. The one
81:22
drawback of the new studio compared to the old one, the train that goes by
81:27
periodically, like all the time.
81:35
Actually, it's not that bad. Yeah. Yeah.
81:38
A couple times a day. All right.