The WAN Show - Microsoft Sued Over Windows 10 Forced Upgrade! - July 1st, 2016
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2017-05-06
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And we're live. Welcome to the WAN Show, my
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friends. We've actually got a great show for you guys today. It feels like we
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hardly ever host the show together anymore. It's like probably less than
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50% of the time. Like either you're out of the country or I'm out of the country
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or you're in the country, but lazy.
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That's mean. I legitimately, we were talking about this before the show. I
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legitimately don't remember why you weren't here last week. Where were you?
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Uh oh, that's right. You had the personal thing. Yeah. Oh, that's right.
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So, that's the same reason that I
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probably could not be here today if there were anything that I could do.
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Yes. Um Yeah. Oh, that's right. Our lives are going great. Yeah. It's been
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kind of a rough couple weeks. Um, the good news is my rough couple weeks isn't
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quite as bad as like my grandparents rough couple weeks. So, you know, hey,
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um, knock on wood for the that it
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continues to continue to not be more worse than it already is. Minecraft or
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something. Well, no, no, it's it's like it's a joke because your head's made of
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wood if you're an idiot.
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So, it's time for the land show, guys. Lots of great topics for you today.
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Oculus stops blocking Vive owners from
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playing exclusive Rift games. Basically,
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uh, they needed some good PR, so they went and bought it. Yeah, I think they
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heard my video was coming and they were like, whoa. And then did this. Yeah, I'm
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pretty sure that's what happened. Microsoft pays a woman. So, I'm I'm
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sorry. Did they actually send us a review sample or did they just
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eventually after 2 months prioritize your paid order? I think it was 52 days
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later they prioritized our paid order. And to add to that, it wasn't that they
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like shoved it through the queue when it might have been difficult. They're now
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shipping them at a much faster rate. So got production way higher than it was
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before and then we're like, "Yeah, we can probably give them one of those."
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Microsoft pays a woman
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$10,000 over a forced Windows 10
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upgrade.
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Which Okay, I guess we'll talk more about it later. Yeah, we'll talk more about it later. Tesla driver dies in the
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first crash while using autopilot mode. First fatal crash specifically. First
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fatal crash. Yes. Did I say dies in? Yeah, you said dies in the first crash,
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but there have been crashes. Oh, that's fair. That is fair. Yeah, I mean we may
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not want to be down. US border control could start asking for your social media
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accounts. Oh no. What? Oh no. Actually
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for Okay, we'll discuss it more later, but I might be in favor of this. So
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let's roll the intro and we'll get to all these topics and more. I can just
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take these off my head. They keep like I keep being like what's on my head? I
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keep touching God.
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Visit squarespace.com.
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Actually, it's squarespace.comwanshow. It's not even
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the right link.
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Oh, and now I hate this show. Um,
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so why don't we jump right into our first topic? Um, Oculus stops blocking
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Vive owners from playing exclusive Rift
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games. You know why this actually happened? Um, you know what? Can I do my
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ignorant version first and then can you tell us why it actually happened? Sure.
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Okay. So, original article here is from the Oops. You might be right. website
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that I Hold on. Hold on. It's from The Verge. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. Let's just
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see if Oh, please work. Please work completely flawlessly in every Oh, no
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way. It worked. Okay, so original article is from The Verge. And
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basically, if you guys haven't been paying attention, Oculus has their store
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where you can buy games and applications and in theory at some point when it's
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not just games, um, where you can buy games. And in that store, some of the
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games are exclusive to the Rift. And so,
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basically what Oculus was doing was
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someone came out and I forget what the pro the project was called. Libra
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something. Libra VR or Libra Vive or something. Libra. Libra VRvive.
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There we go. Libra VRvive. and found a
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way to bypass um the DRM that existed on
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these games that prevented people who did not own a Rift from playing them.
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And then Oculus reacted by tightening down the DRM and making it so that like
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I actually got as far as to launch Ly's Tail and I could like look around and
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enjoy the platformy go, oh, it's a platformer. I should be playing it on a
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screen with a controller. And then you just decided to I actually really want
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to play it in VR. So, I haven't played it yet, though. You actually have.
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Anyway, so I got as far as to be able to look around in the game, but then they
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made it so the controller wouldn't work. So, that was one of the ways that they
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that they locked it down. So, Oculus, having come under fire lately, seems to
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have bought themselves some positive PR
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by discontinuing the blocking of
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uh their their exclusive and DRM games,
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discontinued the blocking of preventing Vive owners from playing them there.
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Let's call that grammatically correct. Okay, what actually happened? Okay. So,
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uh, Oculus had a check in all of the games downloaded from their store that
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just did a headset check. Is this a rift? Is it check yourself? It It should
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check. Does it prevent you from wrecking yourself? Because they did kind of wreck themselves. Did they? Okay. And well, if
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you think Yeah, the PR is really bad, so they kind of wrecked, right? Yeah. Okay.
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Anyway, so that's that's all that LibraVRive was getting around at first
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was is this thing a rift? Yes or no? I I
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think they just like removed that check or they just told it it was a Rift and
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then moved on or something, but it just basically that part didn't matter. So
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Oculus got a little upset, patched in like straight up DRM to not allow. It
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was it was more intense than just a simple check. And then the way that
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Libra VR/revive had to fix that was with a
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complete DRM breaking patch which
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enabled piracy. Oh, the original Libra VIX Revive patch
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did not enable piracy. It didn't help you pirate games. The the new patch, so
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you had to buy the game around the headset check. Yes, that was the
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original one. The new one didn't. And Libravr/Revive was like, "Yo, we don't
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really want to do this, but this is the only option we have to play Rift games
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on a Vive." So, there you go. So, Oculus
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has now allowed people to use games
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bought on the Oculus store on the Vive
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um while saying we continually revise
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our entitlement and anti-privacy
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systems. Um and where is
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it? We believe uh protecting developer
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content is critical to the long-term success of the VR industry. So, while
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they're also doing stuff like uh where's
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the why is it an Apple News link to the Verge? The doc is broken for some
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reason. Well, there's also stuff going on like saying it's solving a major sore
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point between Oculus and parts of the VR
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community. I don't think that was actually the motivation for this. That
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might be a helpful way for them to paint it so that they also get good PR out of
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the move. But I think the problem is
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their action whether they intended it to or
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not was directly resulting in the
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removal of things that stopped piracy in a very widespread way. So, the way for
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them to try to slow down or stop or whatever the piracy that was going on,
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they made a way to keep antipiracy stuff
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in there, but allow people to use it across
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platforms. You notice how at the bottom of these notes, it says LibraVR/revive
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developers have removed their DRM breaking patch. Good. So, that's gone,
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which is good. That's good. All right. I'm I'm like I'm creating havoc
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in Twitch chat right now. Why? by saying that it is pre-recorded because it's a
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national holiday today. Oh my god. Can
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we just like everything every Okay. Okay. So, everyone and their dog in
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Twitch chat wants us to move on to a bit of a different topic here. Um, so the
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original article here is from 9to5 Mac
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and there is some bad news in the in the
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Apple repair world. So, TechServe, which
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has been in business for 29 years in the
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New York area, has apparently decided to
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shutter their doors. Um, citing
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competition from, I think it's four Apple stores, uh, Best Buy, and, uh,
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let's see what else we got going on here, and online sales. So, they're
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saying they're no longer doing enough business on the sales side to make
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continued operation viable. So, they were a third-party Apple product repair
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shop. And this actually would seem to indicate
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that it's possible um that there's more to this than
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necessarily just the business isn't viable. So, Lewis Rossman, uh, who you
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guys may know from the super angry video where the guy was so mad at me for
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putting a video card in an oven that he was practically foaming at the mouth and
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swearing his head off. I have never actually watched the video because I was
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pretty sure it would just annoy me and make it so that I didn't want to work with him. But I decided that, you know,
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my reaction to that video, because he wasn't
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wrong, my reaction to that video should be to show up at his shop and have him
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show me how to do it properly. Sharp guy, nice guy. He was just upset. I have
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to give you props. That was a pretty pretty gentlemanly move. I get it. I get
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it. I understand why he was mad. I totally get it. And you know what? We
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went out for dinner. We we patched our differences and uh and I've actually
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been in touch since then. We we submerged some phones in saltwater a
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little while ago and I got his help as a consultant to help us figure out if
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could could there be any way to revive them. Turns out the answer was no. Um I
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actually owe him an email back. He's like, "Hey, whatever happened with that?" Cuz I emailed him last night when
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I saw this video. Um no, it didn't work,
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bud. Sorry, man. Um yeah, nothing about
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nothing about it worked. Was terrible. They were under salt water for a while.
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Well, they were under salt water for a while and then they were submerged in alcohol for five weeks because I didn't
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get to them because I was like out of the country for weeks. So, yeah, that
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also doesn't sound great. Everything about it is terrible. Um the the the
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laminated layers of the like screen and
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the glass and the the touch interface just fell apart in my hand. Well,
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because of the alcohol, right? Cuz you just like burned all the glue
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everything. All the adhesive, all the seals, all the O-rings. Anyway, so um
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there may be more to this because Lewis's video from last night
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contained a lot of uh
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unclear sort of wording about things,
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but it was really clear on a few things. Number one is that his business is
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viable. And I could have told you that because I went down I visited him like
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two months ago, three months ago, something like that. And I walked into
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his shop. There was customer in, there
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was customer out. I saw his rate card. I
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saw how many people he has on staff. I've watched his videos. I know how long
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the repairs take. It doesn't take a freaking genius to do the math. He's
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doing just fine. He's built himself a business from nothing and is more than
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surviving. Um, he even offered to pay for dinner, but I didn't let him because
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I knew it was my bad for upsetting him by putting by baking video cards.
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Anyway, so he made it really clear that
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anything that happens to his business, if his business is gone, you know, in a
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month that it is not because it was not viable. Um, he made it really clear that
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there are tools available online that
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will allow you to download the videos of a given channel um to perhaps to archive
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them just in case YouTube was no longer serving those videos. So, what he seems
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to be hinting at very strongly, and you can see for for such a small channel,
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it's got 171,000 subscribers and uh
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372,000 views on this video. So, for such a small channel, I would consider
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that to be kind of semiviral. Um it's about like if we released a video that
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did 5 million views. Yeah. So, that that would be that's a certain amount of
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virality that we've got going on with this video. People are reacting very strongly to this. There's a lot of
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speculation that Apple themselves, who have been
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known to do things as crazy as sick SWAT
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teams on repair shops that are selling
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Apple trademarked merchandise. In the in the case of one of the stories I heard,
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it was actually replacement back plates for iPhones that had Apple logos on
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them. Um, so they've gone as far as to to six
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SWAT teams on these people and closed down their shops. Um, it is being
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speculated that Apple could be behind Lewis potentially losing his YouTube
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videos as well as his livelihood in the
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form of his shop. I have no confirmation from him. I suspect based on that he's a
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pretty outspoken guy. Not real afraid of
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just kind of saying whatever he's thinking, you know.
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firing from the hip a little. Um I I
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suspect that there is um some kind of
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legal imposition on him to keep his
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mouth shut at this time and that it could affect the the proceedings of of
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whatever battle it is that he finds himself in. Um he's not asking for any
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money. He's not asking for really anything. I reached out. I said, "Hey,
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bro, can I do anything to help?" He said, "No, it's just good to know that
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that that you're there." Um, so I guess that's all that's all that I would ask
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guys is uh either check out there's I think there's a thread on Reddit as
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well, but check that out or just uh oh, I guess you guys don't have to watch me
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do this, but leave a comment under the video. Just be like, "Yo, you know,
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whatever's going on, we're there because he's a good guy and there's a bad thing
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happening to him right now." And uh that's pretty much uh pretty much
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where I'm at on the whole Lewis Rossman thing.
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Um, yeah. So, uh, maybe we could move on to
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some good news. One second. How about some good news? One second. Wow. We
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don't have a lot of good news, do we? We have some funny news. What's up?
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Um, no, I don't think I want to get involved in that. Okay. Um, okay. So,
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this the original article here is from Extreme Tech, and this is some pretty
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extreme craziness. A woman wins a $10,000 judgment against
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Microsoft for the forced Windows 10
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upgrade that happened on her computer. Do you want to post this in the Twitch chat? Yep. On it.
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Um, wow. Does this have the potential to
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open the floodgates or is this a one-time thing or uh, hey Microsoft, I
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want my 10 grand. You bricked my computer. Yeah, obviously temporarily.
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So, not really bricked, but like but like it was very inconvenient for me. made it completely unusable until I like
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reformatted everything. So, Terry Goldstein of
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Saucelito, don't quote me on that. Uh, California sued Microsoft after a failed
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Windows 10 upgrade left her system performing poorly, not even in an
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unusable state, which I know you've personally experienced. Yeah, and like I
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know other people have as well. I know people have experienced this, too. So, she's also not the only one. prone to
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crashing and reportedly unusable for multiple days. Goldstein reached out to
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Microsoft customer service to attempt to resolve her issues and filed a suit once
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the company failed to resolve her problems. And you know what? This is
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something that I've always been upset about. Why is it that Microsoft, a
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company that charges
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$110 to $180 depending on the addition that you
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buy, why is it that a company that charges that much for their products
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doesn't have to pick up a phone when you have a problem with it?
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Can anyone else figure that out? Why is it that they just get to have like a a
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support desk? At the tech shops that I've worked at, if someone's like
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operating system is screwed up and we have to reinstall it and use a key and
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the key that's on the side of their box doesn't work because it never freaking
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works and you call them, they're just like, "Not our problem." Every time.
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Like, what the hell? Did you know that
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there are like the the discount for
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system integrators is not as much as
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you'd think? They actually still pay a significant amount of money for for
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Microsoft Windows. So like the fact that they just get to kind of go nope nope
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nope nope nope should be upsetting.
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Yeah. Anyway, super frustrating. And then if you buy it yourself, they just
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do the same thing. That Yep. I mean, I've had conversations
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with Microsoft where I mean, a lot of you have probably noticed that in the
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corner of a lot of our screen capture, all of our benchmarking systems, it
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says, "This copy of Windows is not genuine." How on earth are we supposed
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to be using a genuine copy of Windows on a benchmark machine? Every single time
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hardware changes, it invalidates the key. I have spent literally hours
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because it used to be that I would go to the trouble of calling in and
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revalidating it every time that I changed a motherboard, for example.
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Certain components it it it dislikes more than others. Graphics cards are
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pretty good, but not always, too. And not always. I've changed a car a
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graphics card and I've had it get pissed. Boom. So, so basically I used to
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call in all the time and I got to the point where um one of my bench test
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copies of Windows had been reactivated so many times they just refused to keep
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doing it for me. And I'm like, "Well, what am I supposed to do? This is the
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same computer." And they're like, "There's nothing we can do." I'm like, "Well, what am I supposed to do? My job
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is to test hardware and change out the hardware on the machine. So, when I
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change a motherboard, I am not changing the system. I'm just changing a
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motherboard." It's like uh and they're like well there's no
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solution like so I so I just so so what
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I I can't I can't bet you understand there's an entire industry of like
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people who have to test computers and you're basically just telling them all
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to pirate Windows because I have literally no other choice. Actually I do
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have another choice. So the reason that
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that's always down there because if I was pirating Windows it wouldn't be
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there. Yeah. The reason that's down there is because I'm just running within
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the 30-day trial. So, we just have to reformat the machines periodically and
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just not enter a product key. We just skip it. The reality of it is these are
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not production machines and they're just for testing purposes of
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keys. We also have like a shelf of keys just for laws. Just in case, you know
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why? It's in case someone walks in here and is like then we can just be like
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key. It's like Yeah. Like what? And I'm like, "Look, I didn't know what to do. I
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talked to Microsoft support. They couldn't tell me what to do. So, I just bought like a pile of pro keys." Like,
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fine. I don't know what to tell you anymore. Just look here. Here, pro keys.
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Like, I don't know. I don't know the answer. It's not a small pile.
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Um, so the $10,000 figure reflected the
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estimated lost compensation. So, maybe
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she was self-employed or something. Um, maybe as well as the cost of a new
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system. They had to buy her a new computer. Wow. So, uh, they appealed the
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initial judgment but dropped the appeal last month. That is hilarious. The the
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problem I would have here is I didn't contact customer service and I just
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fixed the problem immediately by myself. So, it took me like a couple hours and
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then updates and then I was done. Well, they should have to pay you for the
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training and experience and expertise that goes into having been able to fix
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the problem. That's how life works. That's true. I mean, when you bring in a
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plumber and it takes him 15 minutes to fix the problem, you're not paying him
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for 15 minutes. You're paying him or her for the years of experience that they
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bring into your house in order to fix it in 15 minutes. Speaking of or her, a
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female plumber friend of mine just got engaged. Oh, really? Yeah. So,
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congratulations to them. Not going to say names because I don't know, but
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yeah, I'm not even joking. My dad taught her. Do I know
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this person or uh I doubt it. I went to
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high school with them. I don't think you've ever met them though. But yeah,
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anyways, it was like yesterday or the day before. It was very recently. I
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don't remember. On that positive note, I have more bad news. Um so we're on the
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Tesla blog here, tesla motors.com. And
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yeah, so you know what is the saddest
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thing about this?
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Every additional incident that happens from now on will get less and less
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attention. Yeah. The only reason anyone's paying attention to this is
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because it's the first. But, you know,
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with that said, um Tesla is Tesla is kind of, you know,
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being sympathetic while also protecting their own interests in their statement,
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pointing out that in fact, um this
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shouldn't have happened if the operator of the vehicle was following the
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guidelines that they to be fair, they
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didn't like push on that a ton. No, they didn't. But they did point it out. Yeah,
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I think legally it was a responsible thing to to point that out. But in a
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nutshell, they didn't try to make that the focus or anything, but yeah, the
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autopilot sensors on a Model S failed to distinguish a white tractor trailer
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crossing the highway against a bright sky. So Joshua Brown had put the Model S
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in autopilot mode to control the car during highway driving. The car
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attempted to drive full speed under the tractor trailer. It impacted the
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windshield, veered off the road, crashed through two fences and into a power
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pole. So, um Joshua Brown has passed
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away. Uh the incident was disclosed by Tesla on Thursday night and happened on
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May 7th actually in Willist, Florida. So, it actually took a little while for
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them to start talking about this. They were probably looking into how it
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happened and all that kind of Well, I think they wanted to know what the story is before they start talking about the
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story. Otherwise you end up with you know widespread changing stories and all
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this kind of stuff and you know how the internet loves to speculate. I mean the number of people who think
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uh who was it I think like Google is
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responsible for the uh the Twitter yeah that's not accurate thing that happened
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with us. It is a company but it was not a thing. Yeah. Um just crazy. So, they
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detailed in their statement that this is the first known autopilot death in 130
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million miles driven by their customers. Uh, this isn't in my notes, so don't
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quote me on the exact numbers, but I've got it here actually. Um, so among all
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vehicles in the US, there's a fatality every 94 million miles compared to 130
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that were in autopilot mode. So, they were quick to point out that they're still ahead. Yeah. And worldwide they fa
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fatality approximation is at about 60 million miles. So that's not I don't
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know how apples to apples that is though because I don't think Teslas are all
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over the place in like Cambodia where people drive like they all just make up
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their own rules as they go. Like I think the US but that's why it's lower, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Because the US comparison is more fair. Yeah. The 60 is not
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specifically not a onetoone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Um, that's still
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not like we're not trying to be like, "No, they did great." Like, uh, still
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sort of sucks. Yeah, still sucks. Um, you know, there's still supposed to be
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other sensors on the car that should have known that there was a very large
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object actually in front of the car. Um,
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but you know, Tesla is taking this opportunity to remind people, some of
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whom have been posting very irresponsible videos to YouTube, even
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like the guy sleeping. Yep. Of abusing their autopilot mode. Um, yo, it is an
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assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all
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times. You need to maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle while
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using it. I'm just glad that it didn't carry them onto, you know, a pile of
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school children or something like this could have been worse. Um, and it's a
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really important opportunity for us to
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remind ourselves that they are a two out
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of four in terms of autonomous driving
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standards. They are four is fully autonomous. They are not that they are
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two. Um, keep your hands on the wheel.
26:14
Be prepared to take over at any time.
26:18
Um,
26:21
yeah. So, that's a drag. Um, you know what? Maybe now's the
26:26
time for a for a Twitter blitz
26:29
here. I want to hear from you guys. U
26:33
So, tweet at Lionus Tech on Twitter. Um, oh, I guess this is also a good
26:38
opportunity to tell you guys that the Linus Tech Twitter handle is actually
26:42
going to become the official Linus TechTips Twitter handle. And I'm gonna
26:45
be switching over to something else. Personally, it's sort of TBD, but it's
26:49
probably gonna be at Linus G. Sebastian. I couldn't get at Linus
26:52
Sebastian. Darn. Did you contact them? Um, I've tried to contact Atlinus
26:57
Sebastian before. I wasn't able to get through. So, the Oh crap. I need to uh
27:02
get in touch with the Atlinus TechTips guy. He's going to hand that over to us
27:05
as well. So, we have
27:12
atteing a bunch of spam. It was like a bot for a while. And then at Linus Tech
27:17
Tips is coming, but we're not going to switch the Linus Tech Tips cuz ideally I
27:22
would have liked at Linus Tech Tips to be the publication and at Linus TechTips
27:27
to be me. And theoretically, you could do that, but you lose your verified
27:31
check mark. So, I don't want to strip the company of its verified check mark.
27:35
Also, all of the Twitter handles in the
27:39
videos and under the videos would have to be replaced with the official one,
27:42
which is a real chore and I don't feel like doing it. So,
27:49
um, this vehicles, sorry, I'm just I'm
27:53
going to create a straw poll here as
27:58
well. Okay, so let's get that posted in
28:01
the Twitch chat. Want to hear from you guys. want to hear from you guys on Twitter. But basically the question is,
28:07
are you still comfortable with autonomous vehicles? And the answers are
28:11
yes, no, I never was. Or I mean, if you
28:17
want to hit us up on Twitter, then I guess you could say something a little bit, you know, more complex than that,
28:22
but still limited to 140 characters or whatever it
28:25
is. Uh, sorry, I just got to get us signed into Twitter. Do you want to jump
28:29
on to the next topic in the meantime? Then we'll come back to this, please. So, US Border Patrol could start asking
28:34
for your social media accounts. Now, to be clear, this is a um like when you're
28:40
filling out your I believe it's like your customs incoming form or whatever
28:45
the questionnaire thing that you fill out when you enter the country. I don't
28:48
think this is US border patrol as in driving over the border. I think this is
28:53
US border control uh control as in
28:56
flying into the country. Um, it would be added to both electronic
29:02
system for travel authorization and the
29:05
you have got to be kidding me. 94W. Oh, I still had my screen share on. Okay,
29:09
I'm going to have to deal with that immediately. Okay. All right. You should
29:14
do that very quickly. Um, anyways, gonna
29:18
keep uh talking.
29:25
Uh anyways, uh and it would be an optional field. So
29:31
you would have um the option to put it in or not. Uh I
29:37
don't necessarily think that this is the worst thing ever. One, it's optional.
29:40
Two, this would be what is currently I
29:44
don't know. See, it's kind of weird. This would be what is currently public
29:48
on your social media account. So, if you had things that you didn't want people
29:51
to see, you would theoretically have it uh posted in a private way. So, it's
29:56
probably not the end of the world. And you could have like
30:01
uh say you were a like cam girl or porn
30:06
star or something like that, maybe have your work account and your personal
30:11
account and give them your personal account when going over the border. I do
30:15
think it's a little bit weird for things like stalking. You go over the border,
30:18
someone thinks you're attractive, they give you have to give them all of your
30:22
information, including address and social
30:25
information. I don't know. I'm not entirely sure what the inspiration for
30:29
it is. Um, you could theoretically say like,
30:35
oh, like ISIS members and stuff have social media accounts, um, whatnot and
30:40
so forth, but I seriously doubt any of them would give that one. Like I just
30:45
said about the like if you're an adult star of some form, um, you would have a
30:50
work one and a nonwork one. I have a feeling someone who's as blatant as an
30:54
ISIS member with a Twitter account wouldn't put their ISIS affiliated
30:57
Twitter account on a travel
31:01
authorization form to go into the US
31:04
because that is just ridiculous. And
31:07
it's also an optional area. So yeah. Okay. Well, that
31:13
was potentially the end of the world but isn't. Yay.
31:19
Yay. If I could copy this, that would be
31:23
great. Jeez, I've had a bad enough week with that kind of crap going on. That's
31:28
the last thing.
31:32
Yeah. Yeah. No, I know. I No, no, it was much It was much worse than that,
31:35
actually. It was much much worse than just the password. Um, it was uh it was
31:41
that and a backup code. So it was like
31:44
so it was it was the password and the means to uh circumvent my two-factor
31:49
authentication. The best part is too I saw through my administratory stuff that
31:54
people were storing backup codes in that
31:57
and was literally going to bring it up in the Monday morning meeting next week
32:01
that people should not do that. Yeah. Well, there you go. There you go.
32:08
Um sorry, I'm just going to need a minute actually. Okay. Hey, no, I did
32:11
want to weigh in on that topic and I'm actually like I'm good now. That was uh
32:14
that was the only thing that showed up there and it's all it's all sort squared
32:17
away now. Ant Venom being a bro in chat was like you post pictures, you get
32:21
timed out, talk get
32:25
hit. So, uh when crossing the border,
32:29
like honestly, some of the easiest times
32:32
that I've ever had crossing the border have been when I explain who I am and
32:38
show them a video. Because like if I'm going down to attend uh a conference or
32:42
something like that, I'm like, "Yeah, I'm this guy. I make videos about tech on YouTube." And they're like, "Oh,
32:47
okay. So, you're you." Um
32:52
um you're going to want to figure that out immediately. Okay. Yeah, I'll figure
32:55
that out. Um so I have kind of the same thing. Someone will ask me what I'm
32:59
doing. I'm like, "Oh, I'm going for meetings." And like before they even ask
33:02
me like, "Uh, what kind of meetings?" cuz you know the border control guy is
33:06
just like I've had 10,000 people come through here today and I'm tired of
33:11
asking these questions every single time. So instead of just like vomiting
33:15
information at them because they also don't want that either and that makes you look super suspicious. I just have
33:19
my formulated obvious question ready.
33:23
I'm like I'm a YouTube person. I make YouTube videos. I'm going to visit a
33:26
hardware company because I make YouTube videos on hardware and I'm going down
33:29
there for meetings. Um, yeah, it's actually pretty
33:34
straightforward. So, for me, being able to show like here's my Twitter account,
33:38
which is for work, and here's the YouTube channel that we have. It's for
33:42
work, and here's my Facebook page. It's private.
33:47
So, there's my picture, I guess. Cool.
33:51
Um, actually, I don't have any problems with that at all. And one kind of cool
33:56
side effect of this could be that people are more wary about what they put
34:01
publicly on their social media cuz
34:05
man, some people aren't careful with that at all. Like
34:10
Dennis just posting dickpicks on Twitter
34:13
all the time. Yeah. Yes, he does. That's why his Twitter handle is Dennis is
34:18
hung. Yeah. Thought it was Denny is hung. Is it Denny is hung? Oh, it's
34:23
Denny's, huh? Ever so slightly different than that, as in Denny's,
34:27
the uh restaurant chain. Anyways,
34:32
uh talking about another thing that could be seen in either way, Apple has
34:36
granted a patent that can prevent iPhones from recording at concerts. I'm
34:40
going to post the 9 to5 Mac article in the chat so you guys can see it as well.
34:45
My immediate gut reaction is that uh
34:49
sorry, I should probably take this. It's my sister, which of Yep. Yep. What's
34:54
going on right now? I would also recommend going. Yeah. Um,
34:59
so I my immediate Come on, Dennis. My
35:03
immediate knee-jerk reaction is that I don't care at all because cell phone
35:06
recordings at shows are stupid. What we're talking about right now is Apple
35:10
has been granted a patent that can prevent iPhones from recording concerts.
35:15
Oh, what do you think? How How do they prevent that? I'm not in I actually have
35:20
no idea. One second. An infrared emitter can be located near an object and
35:25
generate infrared signals with encoded data that includes Oh, so up on stage or
35:31
something they would blast out infrared. Yeah, you like that. I I hate
35:35
people Snapchat entire concert. Yeah.
35:39
One thing once the Snapchat gets out you can't hear anyways because it's
35:43
just like Yeah. Yeah. Oh, if you Snapchat two story of this
35:48
concert is fine, but if you snatch an entire story,
35:52
that's not good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you
35:55
can sit on the show if you want. Go ahead. Okay. Let's finish this topic. Um
36:01
I think I think this they have right they
36:05
have like copyright thing, right? You cannot record a lot of concert that you
36:10
are not allowed to record. Mhm. I don't know in here in Taiwan. That's and like
36:14
even outside of because I agree and that makes sense and if I was hosting a
36:19
concert I would want people to just go instead of just watching recording. So I
36:23
get that but even just like people standing there like this recording with
36:27
their phones being obnoxious and super annoying and like getting videos from
36:32
people that are like okay this is even even you recording when are you going to
36:36
look at it again? You're never going to watch that again. You can't hear the
36:40
music properly. like it's going to be blown out because all the lasers and
36:43
lights and crap. I don't mind they do that taking pictures or anything before
36:49
the concert actually start. I think still pictures are probably fine. Yeah.
36:53
But if you want just like one momento of like this is cool click or like selfie.
36:59
Yeah. Or something. But like no selfie stick though. No selfie stick. That's
37:04
That might be better cuz then your arms aren't way up in there. No, it's too annoying. It's very crowded and takes up
37:10
too much space. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I was thinking if they go like
37:13
straight up. No, even some place some places in Japan they b Yeah, they banned
37:19
Disneyland did too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's too dangerous.
37:22
Yeah. Um apparently there's more positive uses
37:27
for the technology as in museums.
37:32
Um Oh, that could be cool. So, museums
37:35
could use it in a different way. while you're trying to take a photo of something, they could display relevant
37:40
information about it. That's cool. That could be pretty sweet. Is that what's
37:45
Oh, okay. I'm not sure. It sounds like
37:48
there's too much potential for misuse, though. Cuz if they can display things
37:52
on the screen about what you're pointing the camera at in a museum, could someone
37:57
not use it to just put black over your screen so you can't see what you're
38:00
trying to film or record? You mean when they are in the museum?
38:04
No. Like as a civilian,
38:09
I feel like someone could use this to like Oh, to see your stuff to No, to
38:14
like block people from taking photos of different things when theoretically
38:18
you're allowed filming or taking photos of whatever you want on public property.
38:22
Someone could try to block you from doing so by using this exact same
38:26
technology. Am I being like way too tinfoil hady?
38:31
I don't know what you're talking IR blasting a license plate number. Yeah.
38:35
Like someone's saying if you had like the museum thing, right? Yeah. So, if I
38:39
try to take a photo of my wallet. Yeah.
38:42
I'm at the museum and my wallet is somehow important even though it's
38:46
really not. Um it it says on screen,
38:49
this was so and so's wallet. He he got it here and used it in the great battle
38:54
of buying things at Walmart. Um that's kind of interesting. Was it on Black
38:58
Friday? Probably. Yeah, that's funny and
39:02
relevant. Um, you could theor, if say
39:06
this is someone's license plate, they could have the same technology blasting
39:09
so that when you try to take a picture or video of their license plate, it's just black
39:13
or it covers your screen with something.
39:19
I could be way too tinfoily. That's probably I don't know that
39:23
situation, but I agree with that. Um they that's a
39:28
cool thing if they use that in a concert or
39:33
maybe some meeting submitting is like
39:38
um confidential. Okay. Maybe that would
39:42
be cool if people try to record things.
39:46
So like if we tried to do like a factory tour and if we have that technology in
39:50
our office no prank then no pranks.
39:55
I'm sure you'd appreciate that. Then you can't get Burkel back though. Oh, we can
39:59
do outside the office. Okay. Yeah. At
40:02
your house. Are you saying we can prank you at your house? No, I'm moving.
40:08
Oh, right. Actually, that's not funny. Um
40:14
Oh, do you know those channels uh mainly
40:18
in Asia where you can watch someone eat? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Stream. Twitch is
40:22
allowing that now. They banned that before. They're Yeah, they did. Before
40:27
um they didn't have a section for it. Twitch likes having a section for
40:31
different things. So, they now added a category called social eating. What? It
40:36
sits along other non-gaming categories like Twitch creative. Creative I've
40:41
actually used a fair amount. I don't know if I'm going to use social eating although people have commented that a
40:45
lot of times if I'm and a section called life or life. Yeah. What? Because social
40:51
eating is weird. What? I don't know what that term what does that term mean
40:55
social eating but the the the Asian
40:58
streams where they just eat on camera that's social eating. You're eating and
41:02
you're you're you're talking to the people that watch social media eating
41:05
eating show. Eating show. Yeah. Sure. I
41:09
mean if you can have a cooking show, you should be able to have an eating show, right? Yeah. But if you can eat, you can
41:15
also have a different washroom show. You
41:19
want a washroom show? I'm sure they have that because you this is what that's
41:23
your logic minus.
41:27
So you just you just took it to the next step when you get rid of the food. So
41:30
when you make the food when you consume the food and then you get rid of the food. Okay. But we know the full we know
41:34
that Twitch has um nudity guidelines. So
41:38
So if you were going to have a washroom show, it would have to be what? Like
41:42
neck up and just facial expressions. You can have your shirt on when you're on
41:46
the toilet. You can have your shirt on when you're on the toilet. So like so like like waist like medium just above.
41:52
Yeah. Here like right there. Okay. Oh, I think it
41:58
makes sense. No one's going to watch that. Is there any pretty sure someone
42:02
would watch that? Yeah, someone would. Is there any like obscenity problems? I
42:06
don't I don't think so. I mean, it's a natural thing. You know, going to the
42:11
bathroom is very natural. But okay, but sex is also natural. Sex is Well, it can
42:16
be pretty unnatural.
42:20
Oh, right.
42:23
Okay, fair. Speaking of speaking of Twitch
42:29
streams for going to the washroom, Android N is called Nougat. Um, Android
42:34
7.0 Nougat. Here, I'm going to jump in. Okay. Thank you, Dennis, because I got
42:37
to do our sponsor spots. Yes. Are we doing sponsor spots before
42:41
Nougat? Yes. First sponsors, then Nougat. Okay. All
42:46
right. So, the new site that you might get.
42:54
What? The new site that you might get. New get. Oh,
43:00
that's awful. Yeah. Uh, might be on Squarespace. They've got 24/7 support
43:05
via live chat and email. They feature responsive design in all of their
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43:13
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43:17
They've got their cover pages feature, which lets you have like a onepage
43:20
online presence. If you're a web 2.0 company and you think that more pages
43:25
isn't cool, personally not a fan, but if
43:28
you must have that kind of site, then I guess Squarespace can do that for you.
43:32
And they've got lots of other tools, too. everything from their easy inline
43:35
text editing to their just kind of move
43:38
things around, move pictures around interface to the fact that it's all
43:42
cloud-based and finally to their logo creator. And I'm sure there's a million
43:47
things that I'm not thinking of, but basically it makes it easy to make a
43:51
website. Your website will be uh reliable. The only time ours has gone
43:56
down was entirely caused by someone else, not Squarespace, that's for sure.
44:00
And technically, the site didn't go down. you just couldn't find it. That's
44:04
true. If you had gone to the IP directly, then that would have worked
44:09
just fine, actually, now that you bring that up. So, Squarespace did nothing
44:14
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44:26
potential readers. No, I mean if if if
44:30
you're blogging about like your your washroom streaming show, then actually
44:37
there's probably millions of potential viewers for that. Okay, fine. So, when
44:41
you decide when you Oh, when
44:48
you everything is awful right now. Uh, when you decide to sign up for
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Squarespace, make sure you use offer code WAN so you can save 10% on your
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first purchase. Thanks to Squarespace for supporting the WAN Show. You should
45:01
keep doing it so we can build our show. Beautiful.
45:08
I like it. Nick's not here to yell at me anyway. Yeah. All right. way.
45:14
What have we got for our next uh next topic here?
45:19
Uh well uh Nougat, right? Android N. The
45:24
N word. Nougat. Yeah.
45:29
Uh the original article here is from Android
45:33
Police. Let's go ahead and Oh, you did
45:37
it. You beat me to the punch. I was going to I was going to do it. I was
45:40
just like I was in I'm not here with Luke because he's away last week mode
45:44
and and lots of other weeks. And lots of other weeks. Android N is now officially
45:48
Nougat. Yay. Um I really wanted them to
45:53
make it Namy McName face. Did you see about the one that got like voted the
45:57
most or something? I It just it they put it in like a teaser trailer and I was
46:02
like just do it. I know you do your candy thing, but like it's funny and it
46:07
it's cool. I actually think Nougat has got to be like the worst. It's pretty
46:12
boring. And do people even know what it is? Blocks.
46:18
Like do people even know what Nougat is? Like I know what Nougat is only because
46:21
I love Toblerones. That is the only reason I know what Nougat is. I know
46:26
what Nougat is probably because my mom
46:29
likes it. I believe someone that I know
46:32
has liked it a lot. I think it might have been my mom. It could have been someone else. I don't know. And Tlberons
46:37
are awesome. They're just too expensive. Yeah. So, Naimo Bar, what else? Well,
46:43
Naimo Bar, remember, I think that's sort of more relevant to us because we live
46:47
near like is is that the origin of Nimo Bar or is it a thing? Uh, I don't know
46:52
if that's the origin of Naimo bar or not, but I know it's not just a Canadian
46:55
thing. Like Naimo bars are they're pretty cool. Okay, let's find out the
47:00
origin because if it's like a local thing. Yeah. From Naimo, the name of a
47:04
city in the Canadian province of British Columbia. So, I don't think I think that's probably worse than Nougat. Okay.
47:08
Can we do a poll to see if people know what Naimo bars are? Sure. Because I
47:12
feel like they're Let's not say if they know what they are. Let's hit a poll if
47:17
they've tried one. Okay. Yeah, cool. I like that. Okay, that makes sense. Let's
47:21
do it. So, have you tried uh Nimo bar?
47:27
See, look. Spell check didn't even recognize it. That's not a good sign.
47:31
No. And don't worry, we are going to get back to that Twitter blitz. Uh hopefully
47:35
if we can find all of the I feel like it's a bigger It might not be. I could
47:40
definitely be wrong. Kind of lived here forever and
47:44
stuff. So, yeah. So, it's hard for us to really say, but let's go ahead and and
47:47
try and think of what some of the other uh I mean, there's not a lot of Wow.
47:54
Yeah. There you go. Get wrecked, son. All right. Cool. They're not very good,
47:58
quite frankly. I think they're gross. So, you're not really missing. They're
48:02
very strong. Yeah. My mom loves them.
48:05
Yeah. Absolutely loves them. Yeah. I I
48:08
think we just got told here that that the results are clear. All right. Thank
48:13
you, everyone. That's enough results. At the same time, how many like little pastry cake style thingyamajigs have
48:19
different people tried? Probably some, you know. Yeah.
48:25
Um, okay. So, let's go ahead. Like, what
48:29
what what were the other options here even? Because I I remember hearing
48:32
Nougat and I remember also hearing some ones that were better. Nerds. Oh, yeah.
48:38
That that's a that's a company thing. That's terrible. Uh, Nutroll. Ooh,
48:45
Nutella. Okay, I gotten behind Nutella. Isn't Nutella Is that a brand thing?
48:49
It's a brand thing, isn't it? It is, but Oh, they also did Kit Kat. Yeah, but
48:53
they did Kit Kat and they reached a deal with Nestle. This was one of the
48:56
suggestions. Android Nestle Crunch. Uh, this list is coming from Fandroid over
49:00
here. That's cheating. That's like saying that's like if it was H and it's
49:05
like Android Honda Civic.
49:10
No. Android Napoleon. Android Noodle
49:15
Pudding. GH Nish Tart. Android Nimo.
49:21
Yeah, they're all awful. They're just all terrible. Yeah. Android.
49:27
I'm on Wikipedia under list of desserts
49:30
and I'm going through all the different categories and looking what they have for N and there's not much. Oh, what's
49:36
that? Nonivot. I've never It sounds like another Canadian thing to be honest.
49:41
Nam Kangai. Yeah, that doesn't sound
49:45
Canadian unless it's like in Richmond.
49:50
Nuns Puffs. Wow. Nuns Puffs.
49:54
That nun nut roll. Yeah, nut roll. That
49:58
that one was there. Wow. Is N just not
50:02
like uh not very not a delicious sounding first letter or something? I
50:06
don't don't get it. Well, there you
50:11
go. Huh. Go figure. All right. Yeah,
50:15
there's like really not much. Let's go have a look at that uh let's go have a
50:19
look at that Twitter blitz that we were uh Oh, they probably should have came to
50:24
a
50:27
um agreement with Nutella.
50:32
Oh crap. Did you just do that again? No, no, no, no, no, no. There we go. Okay.
50:39
No, no, no, no. Sorry. I'm not I'm not
50:42
operating at It's all good. I just wanted to make sure you didn't do that
50:46
cuz if you did, I was going to be like, "All right, you need to blitz and fix it again
50:51
and I'll keep doing whatever." Um,
50:55
hold on. I need a minute. All good. Florida man, um, who at this point has
51:01
probably been in jail for an obscenely long time and owes a lot of money. Um,
51:05
has Florida Man. Florida Man. Yeah. You don't know that thing? No. There's a
51:09
subreddit called Florida Man. Okay. Well, whenever you hear like crazy
51:14
complete idiots, whenever you hear crazy news, it seems to be like Florida man
51:18
dies after threatening an alligator with a chocolate bar, like just like crazy
51:23
stuff. It seems to end with like or start with like Florida man. Oh, cuz
51:26
it's just like so it's not a specific from Florida, not Florida man. But how
51:31
the news does it Florida man blah blah blah. Anyways, Florida man sues Apple
51:36
for10 billion US. What? Says he invented
51:39
the iPhone in
51:43
1992. Uh yeah, there's a Gizmodo Gizmodo
51:47
article. There's also a comparison picture which is
51:51
fantastic. Um that is his drawing. Oh,
51:55
hold on. I gota I got to bring this up. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Okay.
51:59
Sorry. Florida man. Florida man for 10
52:04
billion US dollars he wants. Okay, so
52:07
here's the comparison picture. Here we go. The iPhone according to Florida man.
52:14
The iPhone according to Apple.
52:18
So, I mean, at what point does Gene
52:23
Rodenberry start selling people or start suing people for inventing things
52:29
and like or George Lucas, I mean, when
52:32
someone releases a lightsaber, actually, you know what's
52:36
you know what's kind of crazy is Disney
52:39
probably would be on that.
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What if someone created a lightsaber? Do you think Disney would try to claim that
52:47
they own all the applicable rights? Like a real life lightsaber? Yes. I feel like
52:52
if they tried to call it a lightsaber, then they'd have a problem. But creating
52:56
a a theoretical fantasy depiction of
52:59
something, I don't think gives you the rights to its actuality.
53:03
I think if that was a problem, but could they make the argument that it is so
53:08
culturally pervasive that the inspiration would have had to come from
53:14
Star Wars? I think once we got to the
53:17
point where we could make something that was like that powerful based on mostly
53:23
like light. I don't remember how it works in the Star Wars universe. What is it exactly? It's an crystals emitting
53:28
energy, right? Um, so it's a basically a laser, a crystalline thing that is
53:33
emitting energy which is somewhat like a laser, but only goes out a little bit
53:37
and has obscene amounts of power, but only goes to like a point that looks
53:41
like a sword. Once we get to the point that we can do that, I don't even know
53:45
if Star Wars will still be relevant. Or maybe it's all going to be like
53:50
galaxy quest all over again and we'll think that they're historical documents.
53:57
Yeah. rewatched that recently. Still very
54:01
good. I love Alan Rickman. I've actually heard that. Yeah. Oh man, that sucks.
54:07
Sorry. Um, anyways, I haven't rewatched
54:11
it in a long time, but I've heard from a lot of people that whenever they rewatch
54:15
Galaxy Quest, they're like, "Holy crap, this movie is awesome. It's still just
54:18
as good. It is equally relevant."
54:21
Um, yeah, it's it's not that often that you get a movie that that ages that well
54:27
because nerds are still exactly the
54:31
same as in 1994 or whenever that movie
54:35
came out. I think it was actually a little later than that. Quest
54:38
uh 2000. No, what couldn't have been 2008? That doesn't make any sense. Maybe
54:45
it came on DVD then. 1999. 1990. Wow, it
54:49
is pretty old. Holy crap. So, in 17
54:52
years, nerds have not progressed at all. Not to mention the movie was probably
54:56
being written a couple years before it was actually, you know, and then it went
55:00
through filming and editing. So, like in 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. Not not a thing. I
55:05
think you could say that. Um,
55:08
okay. Let's see. Wow. We've actually covered a lot of the a lot of the best
55:12
topics for today already. Um, oh yeah, the AMD RX 480 is a thing, but like we
55:17
have a video on that. So, so another thing to add to the Florida man thing,
55:22
um, yes, the US Patent and Trademark Office declared the application
55:26
abandoned in 1995. Oh, I've been screen
55:29
sharing for a while again. Great. I'm just really like not on my Did you do
55:33
anything crazy? I don't think so. Okay, cool. Um, so yeah, there was that. Um,
55:39
it also like if you scroll down a little bit, he had one where it's like
55:43
basically a book and it like closes.
55:47
Yeah. Okay. So, I think there's like writer and reader mode.
55:52
Okay. So, it looks more like microphone antenna speaker optional solar cells.
55:59
So, basically this is just like the scribblings of a of a dreamer. Yeah.
56:04
He's like, "What's a cool thing? I'm going to put it in here." Awesome. Three
56:09
and a half inch discat drive. How big is
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it supposed to be? It's 5 in by 3 and How is he planning to put a 3 and what?
56:18
How's he planning to put a 3 and 1/2 in discet drive in a 5 and 1/2 in? And how
56:24
big is this? So that's three and 3/4 in. Rechargeable battery is here. That's
56:28
where the rechargeable battery is. Page forward is here. Uh numeric. So the
56:34
whole typewriter keyboard with a spacebar that big is in half an inch because it's 5 and a half inches, right?
56:38
No. Five and five inches to here by three and Oh yeah. No. Well, it looks
56:42
maybe an inch. Let's let's say an inch. Wow, it's really small. Okay. Features
56:48
each device 80386 SX processor 16 MHz 80 megabyte
56:54
hard drive writing device 160 megaby D
56:58
RAM reading device reading device options either A or B
57:06
uh calendar clock typewriter keyboard
57:11
magnetic latch that's a good idea oh more solar cells
57:16
Back lit LCD super twist display screen
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monochrome or color. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay.
57:27
Okay. Well, good luck with that,
57:32
buddy. Good old Florida, man. You know,
57:35
it would be kind of fun if the iPhone had an 80 megabyte hard drive and 2
57:40
megabytes of RAM and a 16 megahertz processor. That
57:46
sounds like the iPhone. Uh, what's the next topic? I
57:53
don't know. I don't really know if I see much much else here. Oh, uh, this is
57:57
just a quick one. Samsung has a 1 terbte
58:01
M.2 NVMe SSD. the
58:06
SM961. So, right now it's an SM961. So,
58:10
that's an OEM OEM product. Tom's Hardware has a review up, but it is
58:15
speculated that this would be uh this will be rebadged as some kind of a of a
58:20
some 9 something Pro at some point here.
58:24
So, maybe a 960 Pro or something along those lines. Very very
58:30
interesting. It's like wicked fast. like what what one one terabyte at 512 bucks
58:37
and 512 gigs at 280 bucks is pretty
58:41
cool. That's pretty cool. I mean one honestly 480 gigs to 512 gigs is the SSD
58:48
size where I really don't feel limited by it anymore. Yeah. Um I'm pretty
58:53
comfortable with 256 still unless it's a
58:56
gaming machine. Um, but if it's a gaming machine, I want my 500. I want my 500
59:01
gigs, but one terabyte is at the point where I feel like I can be like a data
59:05
packrat and I don't really have to clean up any after myself anymore. Yep. Not qu
59:09
with the amount of I have a NAS. Yeah. My only thing is you said gaming
59:14
machine and game load times can still be
59:17
nicer. Yeah, but I don't mind putting a
59:21
games that aren't important like Lego Batman is on a hard drive. Yeah. Yeah.
59:26
just have a couple Steam libraries. There's no real reason not to do that.
59:29
It's very easy. Actually, I made a video on it. I think it just came out. It's
59:33
SSD hard drive optimization thing. It's really easy to have Steam have different
59:38
save locations and it'll ask you every time. And it's it's actually really
59:42
nice. Um there's where is it? Uh Activision
59:47
issues DMCA takedown against developers of Orion Prelude. And then there's
59:53
comparison images in there that you got to check out. I'll post the Steam
59:56
article, but check out the comparison images here. I think the bottom one
60:01
might be the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
60:06
yeah. Um, yeah. Wait, sorry. So, this is
60:12
supposed to prove Yeah, that Orion ripped off Black Ops. Yeah.
60:20
So, uh, apparently it was taken down
60:23
from the Steam stores due to the DMCA request. It is now back in the Steam
60:28
stores. Um, the official quote says, "On
60:31
behalf of Activision, who alleges that the game Orion used weapon art content
60:35
from Call of Duty Black Ops 3 and Call of Duty Advanced Warfare. The weapon art
60:40
in question includes the M8 A7 rifle,
60:43
the Haymaker rifle, and the BAL 27
60:46
rifle.
60:54
What? Uh, the developers of Orion Prelude were not contacted or notified
60:58
before their game was removed from Steam at all. Wow, that's pretty
61:05
brutal. Um, a Reddit post on RPC Master
61:09
Race goes into how the DMCA claim may be legitimate. And apparently some of the
61:13
main uh points address that parts of the
61:16
3D models are apparently exactly the same. So if you click on that one um
61:23
yeah, let me bring up the uh the thingaboo here.
61:32
That is actually a more interesting look at it because that's actually how you
61:35
hold the gun in the game. So the images that were given up were of side isolated
61:40
models that you don't really see in the game. Mhm. This is more when you're holding the firearm.
61:46
At the same time, the red dot site is more telling
61:51
to me than the iron sight because like the little area with the lights on it uh
61:59
here and here. Yeah. Are actually just
62:03
like a button panel. Mhm. And that could
62:06
be taken from some other gun. I'm not sure. Um, and iron sights are pretty
62:11
generic. And the side of that gun looks pretty generic. Um, the red dot site on
62:17
the right, which they can't see. I'm sorry
62:20
about that. Oh, sorry. Um, also
62:23
looks a little generic, but I kind of
62:26
see where they're probably coming from.
62:30
Mhm. Okay. All right. Well, we'll see how this plays
62:33
out. I'm not going to be the uh I'm not going to be the judge on this one. Yeah.
62:38
I don't really know. I don't know how that legally plays in. I think we'd both
62:41
need to know a lot more about different rifles. Like if that red dot site was
62:45
taken from like something in real life, then who cares, right? Uh there's more
62:52
rumors. So, original article here is Nintendo Inquirer.com. More rumors that
62:56
the NX will be cartridgebased. Wow. Blast from the
63:02
past. Possibly a good move to be perfectly honest. I think that's kind of
63:06
cool. I might be the weird one there. I mean, I I don't see I've been wondering
63:10
why media doesn't come on SD cards for a
63:14
long time. Like a really long time. Well, not I've been wondering. I
63:18
understand why. It's because they're cheap. It's because the companies that
63:22
sell this stuff to us don't want to spend another, you know, 82 cents on uh
63:27
on the media that they're giving us. They'd rather have something that costs
63:31
82 cents less, a disc. Um, but basically
63:35
in the final months before it's formally unveiled, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
63:39
Admitted hoaxes, etc., etc., etc., but there's been, it looks like a trademark
63:44
app. Um, hold on. So, NeoAF user
63:48
Athereos noticed something in Nintendo US's trademark for The Legend of Zelda:
63:52
Breath of the Wild. User goods and services section. Both video game discs
63:56
and video game cartridges are listed.
63:59
This contrasts with other Wii U software trademarks. So, it could be Nintendo's
64:05
just updating their verbiage so that they can use the same thing for our
64:08
portable games, which already use cartridges and um full-size console
64:13
games. But I choose to believe that we're going to have a cartridge-based
64:17
console again. That would be cool. Which would mean Nintendo only ever had three
64:22
disc based consoles then.
64:25
Yeah. Uh then again, so has Sony for that matter. So has
64:30
Microsoft. So there you go. Right. the GameCube. I always forget about the
64:34
GameCube. Yeah, the Gamecube was a thing. Just because no one cared.
64:37
Doesn't mean that it wasn't a thing. It's the I didn't have an NES when I was
64:41
a kid. Um I had friends that had them. We just didn't have one. So, I had a SNS
64:45
and N64. Then I never had a GameCube. And then I like very luckily got a Wii
64:51
pretty early on. And then I have my Wii U. So, I just completely skipped that
64:55
whole segment. All right, let's go ahead and uh fire up Twitter over there. I
65:00
don't even know if it Yeah, it's not really set up anymore. We don't really
65:04
use it that often. Let's just go ahead and boopity. Right about there.
65:08
Ohippity. Oh, that did not work. Oh,
65:12
that was supposed to work. Uh, add
65:16
screen capture.
65:22
Um, okay. Let's see if that works this.
65:26
No. Okay. Okay. Well, then I will just I will just read tweets. Um oh, uh I've
65:32
had this problem before. I I think it might be that browser. Um but what you
65:38
do is minimize the browser, highlight the area where it is, bring the browser
65:42
back up, and it works. What a chore. I know. It's super
65:47
annoying. I don't know if it's exploit or if it's the browser or what. Kind of
65:51
guess it's like thereish.
65:57
Oh yeah, this is my pain. I had to do it
66:02
during the charity stream that I did. Was super annoying.
66:10
Good enough. All right, there you go. Uh, bring back Dennis. Cheer up you two.
66:16
You're both so down today. Well, we both had kind of rough weeks. Uh, Twitchbot
66:20
is timing everyone out for using the uptime command. Is this intentional? I
66:24
don't know. I wanted Nutella. Hail poodles. Uh, I'm just glad
66:30
the media didn't make as big of a deal as it as they usually
66:34
do. Um, I think there's still time for
66:37
them to do
66:41
that. You need some tech tips. JK just
66:45
did a little love W show. Oh, we've got people commenting on
66:50
my uh on my leak there. That's okay. All
66:54
that information is completely out of date now, which is really good. Yep. Yay
66:58
for doing things quickly. Whoa. You get over the border easily.
67:03
What? Um, still safer
67:07
than 100% people on the road. Yep. So,
67:11
that's a good point. Oh, yeah. So, a lot of Oh, I don't like autopilot. I like to
67:17
drive by myself. All right. Yeah.
67:21
Yeah. See, James says, "My uncle's Model S tells you to constantly keep your
67:24
hands on the wheel." Yeah, that's what it's supposed to do. Time magnets. How
67:28
do they work? Would you consider buying an autonomous
67:32
car and Yeah. No, I would. Too expensive. Well, okay. Right. Other than
67:37
that, I would consider it.
67:40
Fair. I Yes. Okay. I would as well. And then I would go, it is too expensive.
67:44
And then I would stop considering it. Okay. Let's bring up the uh let's bring up the straw poll results since it seems
67:49
like that pretty much tells us the answer
67:53
here. 74% of you are still comfortable
67:56
with autonomous vehicles in spite of the death. Well, you're talking to nerds. Um
68:01
nerds are probably done with math. I prefer to call them a techsavvy
68:06
audience. Nerd. I know. I think it's okay when you call
68:11
yourself the thing. Anyways, um they're probably more down with numbers and
68:15
statistics and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and they're seeing
68:19
mathematically it is better. So they're going okay mathematically it's better
68:24
until we have a bigger sample size and maybe it's not better anymore. That's
68:27
also true. I mean we could have another death tomorrow and all of a sudden that
68:31
would make it uh sign as much worse than
68:36
people operating vehicles as now it is better. And there's also the thing that
68:41
I've been seeing from the start. Yeah. Um, which is what I'm afraid of is
68:47
uh it potentially going haywire instead
68:50
of just not detecting something, driving through it and crashing, right? It going
68:54
nuts. Um, that's scary because a human driver
69:04
unless can Yeah, they can they can go haywire. Unless malicious isn't going to
69:08
like if they crash into something I don't know like cuz that's
69:14
going to cause the big the big media problem. Oh, like if one just spazzes
69:20
out on one decides between the driver's life and the pedestrian's life
69:25
when there's a valid problem there which is if someone goes nuts and drives over
69:31
a bunch of people Yeah. you put them in jail. Yeah. If an AI goes nuts and
69:36
drives over a bunch of people, you go, "Oh my god, this thing is installed in
69:39
everything." Yeah. What do we do? Yeah. And that's a valid question.
69:45
All right. So, thank you guys for tuning in to the WAN Show. We hope you enjoyed
69:49
the show as much as we did this week. Actually, it was kind of a nice distraction today. Um although actually
69:55
for a lot of today, I was working on a really cool project. Uh, I am calling
70:00
this project the most comfortable gaming
70:03
setup ever. And Luke thought I was like,
70:07
what what did you think I was doing with this? Uh, I thought he was trolling. I I
70:11
I thought that you were uh How much can
70:15
I describe it? Um, I haven't disclosed
70:18
what makes it comfortable yet. I have So
70:21
here, so I have tweeted uh pictures of
70:24
the room. Okay. So I've tweeted like this. So that room is really small. I've
70:29
been in there. I've tried to stand in there, etc., etc. It's small and like
70:34
kind of cramped. Yeah, exactly. So I've
70:37
I've experienced the room. So when he says the most comfortable gaming room
70:42
ever, and I know the the back cramping
70:45
that I had to do in order to get in there, my mind is going he's going to
70:48
shove a whole bunch of tech in there because he's told me what he's shoving in there and it's going to be way too
70:52
much. He's going to be cramped and he's going to make like a funny video about
70:55
how he just had to have all these things so he made it work. That's what I
70:59
thought the plan was. I thought it was going to be a funny video. No, it's
71:03
going to be a badass video. Yeah. All right. So, we will see you guys again
71:07
next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Thank you very much for
71:11
watching. I don't know what that means. Oh, the
71:14
intro. The intro. Oh,
71:18
Canada, our true north's native stream.
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Can you find out what he's talking
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about?
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Squarespace. You should