PUBG IS MAD - WAN Show Dec. 15 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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11,484 words · ~57 min read
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okay everything's done sorry for that awkward beginning i just wanted to make sure
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everything was correct Linus isn't here and we weren't perfectly on time which
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disappoints me because usually we've done a really good job it's partially my
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fault i will take blame for you no it's actually lions fault because when it's
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you and i we're on time yeah Linus is in the building and he may take over and
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it's because we waited for him that this is lazy yes that is fair yeah that's it
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anyways beyond all of that kind of stuff gonna be a great show we have some
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fantastic topics some that'll make you sad some that'll make you happy you
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might cry or not i actually uh
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had a little emotional moment when i was writing the show notes yeah it's it gets
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pretty deep anyways we're going to talk about galaxy s9 possibly coming in
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february we're going to be talking about Intel possibly
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doing steep cuts to the Intel inside program and what kind of show would it
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be if we didn't at least address the net neutrality buzz this week as well as
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disney's giant 54 million dollar acquisition
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of parts of fox 20th century fox just by
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the world just buy it all anything that makes media
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buy it then you own all the media the walmart of hollywood
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hey i didn't write it i saw someone else wrote it
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but i like it it's pretty good
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at least they saved us
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there we go moss yes
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tesoro tessaro tesoro and freshbooks dress books
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yeah it's slightly harder to move the little
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sources around on obs than it is on exploit not much but slightly that's
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like a coke and pepsi thing hey uh yeah yeah well most of the comparisons
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between the two are like pretty major that one's that one's a little coke and pepsi
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first topic we're going to talk about is uh title two being
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dunzo's so you have some specific comments on
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here yeah but you should go you should go first so okay you probably know a lot
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of more about this that i okay so i actually don't know about the like title
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ii specific stuff and i don't know a lot about the exact implications i have a
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lot of ideas of how companies and how people are going to react to things and
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how it's going to affect things but i don't know the word of the law and
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i think this is actually uh i think you echo the sentiment that a lot of people
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have um before we get into like
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maybe we just explain what happened uh so yeah in a three to two vote
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the federal communications commission or the fcc
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declassified internet providers as a title ii common carriers situation now
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in my opinion it seems like the entire world thinks that tomorrow
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you're going to have to like pay to use facebook i don't think that's gonna
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happen um i i think it would be
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interesting if they went super hard and just wrecked people immediately uh
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because that would probably get it re-thrown over super fast
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but that's not what's going to happen it's going to happen slowly
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before anything directly affects users i think the first things are going
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to happen is a lot of like kind of inside
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uh industry deal kind of stuff making
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netflix pay them so that they can actually distribute their content
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properly uh blocking content of certain
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people on on different isps or on different
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devices or whatever so they can push their own products that are similar yeah
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a lot of that kind of stuff is what i suspect is going to happen that did
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happen in the past at one point yeah exactly they got reprimanded yes but as
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okay this is where i could totally be wrong as far as i know this was in place
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to try to stop uh to make it easier for the reprimanding
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to happen and this being potentially sort of gone now the title
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two thing is gone now not the entirety of it i know that um
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makes it easier for them to do those things and not get reprimanded
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as far as i understand so
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everybody likes net neutrality there's like i don't think there are
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many well maybe i actually know some people maybe these businesses but like i
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think we can all agree that nobody wants to have a situation uh
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like the one you're describing my problem is how this whole issue is
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being framed like all the articles today like the verge in particular
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it's like the fcc votes to kill net neutrality net
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neutrality's done like the world's over
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uh and there's no distinction being made that like actually net neutrality isn't
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over uh it's just title two that's over
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i don't think this debate really and the fcc guy who always gets quoted
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like the evil guy pie i believe i don't really think he's
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evil i think he's just like answering a different question the
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question has been framed by the media as do we want net neutrality
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whereas the the question that's actually happening with or being answered with
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this vote is how do we want net neutrality to be enforced
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and they've decided that title ii isn't the way to do it and it
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comes down to the two different ways that you can regulate so there the one
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approach is called ex-ante which is regulating something kind of proactively
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so mistakes don't happen and that's a really great way to do it when the stakes are super super super high where
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if it's like if this nuclear bomb gets dropped the world's over so that cannot happen i
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think i think it also um i'm gonna let you finish
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one thing i'm gonna drop in is i think the the stakes being super high is a
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little bit of a perspective thing there's a lot of people that are running
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uh companies like we are both through
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Linus media group and Floatplane media uh that could be severely hurt here
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people could lose jobs people could lose livelihoods people could lose entire
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companies that could in some people's opinion end their life um so agreed
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there's some scale going on there but yeah i will let you continue now i agree
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with that uh but i i think that uh those things can
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be um thwarted by the other type of regulation
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which is x post which is when you you're
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more reactionary with the regulation which is what we had before
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prior to 2015 prior to title ii um
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which is where isps would try to do stuff like promoting their own products
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first and then they would get reprimanded for it and then after that
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happened no other isps would make that mistake again
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so yeah there's like people's livelihoods
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online but then regulators step in and slap their wrists
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and or sue them or whatever and then it seems to be enough and the reason that
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you even have to make the choice between one of the other um seeing as the title
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ii version seems way more safe is because in
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theory it costs a lot more and that would in theory kind of put a damper on
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innovation and we want innovation because we want there to be better broadband tomorrow than today but then
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there's also the situation where like now i'm jumping into something that's
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not in the notes and i don't have the exact name for but people talk a lot
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about how the american populace
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paid through tax dollars um
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huge ludicrous amounts of money to get fiber laid out and then nothing was ever
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done with it i've done some research on that that's not exactly how it worked um
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it was actually way worse uh what happened was the telecommunications
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companies of whatever sort were able to put a fee
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like government is okay with this fee on everything and that fee was supposed to
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directly and solely contribute to the rollout of fiber across all over the
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place and it's easier to do it in cities but the city people would have to keep
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paying the fee so that the more difficult places would be able to be developed that was part of the idea that
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has not been acted on at all um
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and that fee is oops i'm broadcasting my screen and that fee is still going on
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uh and as far as anyone can tell there's no intention of that ever becoming a
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thing anyways so i don't think there's
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when you talk about the inspiration to innovate in somewhere like up here
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usually you have like two options or
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sure maybe three maybe probably not four depending on
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where you live there are technically some places in vancouver where you can get like a lot of different isp options
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but it's really uncommon um out here usually you get two it's telus or shaw
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in a huge percentage of the states there is no option you have one isp there is
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no uh incentive to innovate not because
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they can't charge more they're charging a lot for one uh internet is extremely
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expensive in america and for two they have this freaking
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uh it's not a tax but a fee thing that's
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put on all of their charges that is supposed to directly be like the
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american government being like here innovate and they're just not doing it
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because they're like here money pocket
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no do anything sounds good um so i
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i understand the like you need to be able to charge more so you can have
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money in the bank so that you can innovate um from a company perspective
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like for Floatplane media for example uh the
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fee that we take like if we ignore the the amount of
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money that goes to the creator which is not a thing they're getting money for
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doing work that's how that works but our fee some of it is to cover our current
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overhead in terms of staff and in terms
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of uh like building and chairs and
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tables and computers and whatnot and part of it is so that we can have a
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little bit of extra money that we can put in the bank then we can sit on that little bit of extra money and if we need
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to buy a piece of software to enhance
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our service or add more troubleshooting or if we need to hire another person we
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can go like okay this is fine we have this money here we can innovate in this
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way we can spend the money making the thing we can do the thing that is
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important but they've already had an extremely great example of that which
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is that consistent fee for every single person in america that is subscribed to
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a internet service as far as i know um
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and they're not innovating
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america still has like actually pretty bad internet you go to like anywhere in
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europe or pretty much any asian country that i've been to and you go to like hotel
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lobby wi-fi and it's like holy crap if i could have
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this as like the dedicated line into my house i would be so happy it's not like
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just a factor of the size though like i think that in some of the urban centers
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in the states it's as good well not maybe like japan level but it's there's
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definitely wrong places but yeah yeah it's just not consistent across the
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nation you can get gigabit in some places for sure and you can get gigabit
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in vancouver even as well and it's not just google fiber that is definitely
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true but there is also a lot of places where you can't
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where you absolutely should be able to and most of those places is where
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there's no competition usually where you actually see something like fiber is
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because these telecommunications companies haven't been able to sue a
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small company into the ground um and
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forcing them to not be able to compete
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which is a thing that has happened a lot in the us and there's definitely like
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like if you look at somewhere like taiwan
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most of the country super easy to get internet too it's a fairly small
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island essentially and you can network the whole thing
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it's a lot easier to do than like canada
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but canada's problems are almost more
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understandable than america's
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because we are so spread out but then at the same time if you look at canada's
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population across the map it's like empty empty empty empty empty empty mdm
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tmta this is the border to america empty empty mtmt everyone is like right here
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so we're all kind of in a thin line and like population centers it's weird
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whenever i hear people talking about the us when they talk about more than one
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significant city in a state because it's like almost not a thing up
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here we have like a couple provinces that have more than one city that are
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like major but if you think about outside people everyone's got two
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what other city in bc victoria
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uh it's like okay the definition of major
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yeah is different no what happens in victoria
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there's a school and and there's retirees calgary and there's
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edmonton yeah there's montreal in quebec city yep there's in ontario there's a
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butt load like it's like ontario
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those are all but it's it's like barely st john's in quarter brook
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was alex walking by with his maritimer nova scotia law knowledge there but it's
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just like we if you're trying to run networking across canada you kind of
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have like a corridor to like blip like laughs here's a whole bunch of people
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not very much here's a whole bunch of people not very much there's a lot of that going on there is obviously
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um some that's not true situations where cities
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like much higher up like like calgary and america yeah and and what not but
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it's like it's not impossible and
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luckily up here the the fact that there's almost always definitely not
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true for all situations but almost always two isps fighting we've seen
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quite a bit of innovation shaw recently tried to screw around and say that they
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were sending fiber to people's homes when they were actually sending fiber to
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the node and then copper to the home so telus was like no we run actual fiber
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to the home and then they took like a whole bunch of market share because of that there was a
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little fight going on between them we need them to be fighting exactly
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i don't know but like you were saying this is not necessarily the end of net
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neutrality this is its title ii status yeah i
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basically said my piece because i really don't know that much i don't want to look like fool um yeah i have heard that
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the ftc the federal trade commission is the entity that ought to be regulating
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this type of thing not the fcc i think it's just a big question mark
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that just like will they do it right yeah
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i don't i don't know the america has so many different
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government agency things i i don't know and we're just canadian
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idiots yeah we need john down here to yeah american and schooled in law
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yeah i don't know it's an extremely complicated situation
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we're probably not the best ones to talk about it my thing is i i have
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an odd amount of information about like the things around it like that weird fee
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thing and also that kind of stuff but i don't know the word of the law i don't know what actually like
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happens now that it's not title two because i barely even understand what
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title two is i'm gonna take the position that
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everything's gonna be okay we hope
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yeah yeah we hope it's gonna be all right it could be really bad for us up
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here um so we're just we're just hoping that everything sort of you know
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survives down there it's it's always interesting being canadian because so
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much of what happens in america is extremely important to us
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so like i know of quite a few canadians that pay attention to american politics
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more than canadian politics not only because it's far more crazy
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um our our major controversy if you want to see like hilarious canadian politics our
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major controversy of this year i think was elbow gate was that this year i
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don't know what that is um oh wait a second yeah yeah when he like bumped
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into the yeah well what about there's local issues there's a big dam that they
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just made it's like a big deal yeah it's 12 billion dollars but we don't have
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someone tweeting to another like nuclear armed i don't call him shortened
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yeah we don't have any of that kind of stuff so it's not only are you on your
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little fireball it's gonna be huge
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not only is it more animated down there i'd say but everything that happens in
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the state extremely uh strongly affects canada and we often
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fall asleep basically picturing trump with like triple h's hair
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and like tassels from his elbows coming onto this onto this he's been on wwe
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yeah he's walking onto the canvas matt with a microphone like i've been sitting
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backstage listening to you run your mouth
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oh god cracking some beers together i guess uh speaking of crazy cinematic
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experiences like that uh disney to acquire 21st century fox for 52.4 a
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billion dollars billion i'm stoked on this
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really kinda because a lot of people are you're gonna be the contrary in this
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stream that is fun that is good like um anti-trust concerns
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uh the concern here i don't i'm not entirely sure what defines that
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so maybe uh but i think it's just like they're they're disney's starting to eat
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everything up and it's kind of scaring people a little bit
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well it depends on the scale you think about um
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because on the other hand netflix is eating everything up and they're gonna
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and they have been just steadily raising their prices and
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like they're taking over the only thing that tv is good for now is sports so
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when netflix is all that matters because who cares about prime video or hulu um
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hey man they got a lord of the rings series coming on prime video they're
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doing they have the grand tour they're trying but we need competition right
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yeah yeah um and i think we also need tv to die
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so i think i kind of like what what disney's doing here
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to make it clear for everybody they're not just straight up buying 21st century
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fox they're buying the majority of their properties
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so what's not included is fox news
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they're not buying fox news they're not buying the fox broadcast
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network they're not buying fs1 sports cable channel
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um but they are getting a bunch of stuff including um
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uh the simpsons homeland this is us
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modern family that's all the fox television studio
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stuff yeah yeah they're getting television studio stuff which includes 36 different
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series which includes those four things i just said um
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are also getting the regional sports networks which is a big deal oh yeah so
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disney has already announced plans to introduce two streaming services by the
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end of 2019. they already own espn so they're going to have espn plus but
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which is coming in the spring but espn plus is now also going to have
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these regional basketball games and stuff like that so wow yeah so
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that's actually huge because like you said earlier tvs
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of course there's other things on it but tv is very heavily for sports the only
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thing the only reason the other things are on tv is because they're bundled
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with sports often yeah yeah um so like
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that's crazy and and regional is quite important that's really cool
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okay and then all right so then the second streaming service they want to
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offer is built around their other properties like disney
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marvel lucasfilm and pixar they haven't
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named that streaming service yet but it's going to roll out late so that's
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why they were pulling the star wars series off of netflix yeah it's gonna be
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gonna go on their own and on top of that disney already owned
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thirty percent of huli wait i always i've messed this up because of
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silicon valley yeah they owned gavin belson's company
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hulu they owned they owned 30 of it but now
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they're getting more uh through this acquisition so they actually will have a
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majority stake in that the other people who own hulu are comcast and time warner
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i think among others and that that streaming service is more
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for adult audiences or grown-ups boring stuff abc shows yeah
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so they're interesting yeah they're going to have a lot of streaming services
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there's a quote here from bob iger who's where he said that it's like their
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highest priority going direct to consumer is their highest priority
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what do you think about it is a crazy cultural shift an organizational shift
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for disney who traditionally they've had this content and they need to pimp it
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out to as many distributors as possible so that's very horizontally integrated
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now they're flipping that so we have this content and we're going vertically
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straight distributor and giving it to the
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consumer that's like that's an ambitious and like
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uh legacy defining thing for us well they're trying to stay on top of it one
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of the scariest things for a company like this is becoming that old company
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that just becomes behind the times yeah so they're trying to stay on top of it
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and it it
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i run float planes so this is a little bit of a contradictory thing to say but
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while it might not be feel great to everyone to have another streaming
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service that they have to pay for to get the content that they want um
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um it's it's gonna be interesting and
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like maybe it will maybe it will mean more stuff i have no idea hopefully
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that's true it's going to be sweet though because the thing with netflix is like there's a bajillion things on
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netflix and then you go to watch netflix and you're like there's nothing on
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netflix there's a bunch of like low budge documentaries b-list movies hey
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man i like low-budget documentaries sometimes like it's obviously getting
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better but like for the longest time especially in canada it's been direct
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now there's going to be a new service where you can just watch all the simpsons all the family guys right
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they have so many awesome properties under their umbrella it's gonna be
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wicked the the fox television studio part will be
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pretty cool yeah for sure it's gonna be interesting because um the
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lucasfilm stuff them buying 21st century fox means they have the old properties
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for lucasfilm meaning like the original series and stuff like that
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interesting interesting you'll just anyone with kids is gonna buy that
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like plop it down and your kid can just watch every disney movie ever
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like kids only need two disney movies on repeat as it is
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we've reinforced that with youtube too they'll just sit and replay the same
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thing forever give me sweet yeah you want to do this
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one i feel like this is sure this is a loop topic yeah let's go for it pubg creator
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says games need better protection from copycat titles
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so for people who don't know player unknown battlegrounds is a game kind of
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of a newish genre that it's pioneering called the battle royale type of genre
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i think i think technically they're not pioneering it i don't remember
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they're okay there's always someone who's first it's like apple didn't
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invent the computer yeah like they they definitely were the ones that like
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exploded it and massively popularized it
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etc but i believe again i'm not super
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i'm not super well versed on this but i believe there was a game that this guy
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even contributed to slightly
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this could be wrong sorry mods for armor
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and h1z1 okay yeah which were both like
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it was an arma mod that was basically this just you don't fly it on a plane i
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think yeah and h1z1 which is like basically this but i think you also
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don't fly on a plane so maybe they're upset about planes
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i don't know we should actually we someone tweeted me or or commented last
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time that we didn't uh read out the the names of the forum posters oh geez i
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felt pretty bad about that so there's a great thread about this on the forum
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i even wrote
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that was the greatest segue ever the you want to grab that real quick the the
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disney post was posted by d cress jr the uh
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title 2 is done so post was by evil cat 70
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and i think that's it this one's posted by porina whose name i actually always
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love reading and uh i like the accompanying picture it's just a
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peaceful name and he's got a little clown fish beside i just like that guy i
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think it's perino what oh well
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it's a pokemon bias i just go it just sounds more pokemon
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that's fair that's right my other favorite uh person's name on the forum is max
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settings yeah
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max settings anyway in the forum post
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they uh perino brings up the fact that before
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perhaps before these games there was at least movies uh with this type of
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like the movie yeah which is almost exactly this like
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you're on an island yeah the the concept itself it's an interesting thing because
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uh he they definitely have a point with uh
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there's some specific games i know right
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here they call up in china there are several titles that have the same
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premise gameplay and even graphics some are barely distinguishable from
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pubg itself others have special license like a terminator 2 themed version so to
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back up the game is so popular there's a bunch of spin-off kind of copycat titles
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that are not affiliated at all but kind of just like knock-offs yeah so i
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in some ways i kind of agree where like if it if it is
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basically exactly the same then
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uh sure but they say uh right in here i want
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other developers to put their own spin on the genre not just lift things from
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our own game different things are going to get lifted from every game if you
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look into the history of gaming uh FPS games used to be called uh doom clones
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was it doom clones oh yeah cause they all have the same engine yeah and they
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kind of felt pretty similar but they were technically different games
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and there was slightly different things about it uh like i don't personally find
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it offensive that fortnight is it's a little weird that you like
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flying on a bus in the exact same way that you're flying on a plane on pub g
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that's a little weird well i'm just not gonna lie i want to pose the question
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the example you brought up a second ago in those early games like the first
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first person shooter yeah it wasn't a lot of potential to do other things yeah
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like you know it's not a very big sandbox and that's fair but it is it is
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a very different gameplay experience to play the free fortnight uh 50 v 50 or
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whatever they call it like battle royale style game i don't
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actually know the proper name for it i only played two rounds only playing two rounds it is an
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extremely different game i got freaking wrecked because some guy needed to run
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up a mountain so he just and it was too steep so he just built stairs and while
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he was running up the stairs he was building new stairs he just went rip the
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whole way up and i was like i didn't think you could what the and you can
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like build fortresses and in the 50v 50 version which pubg doesn't have it's 50
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people versus 50 people you still have four man squads and you drop it in your
27:34
little squad you're probably gonna duke it out with a couple other four-man squads that are on the other team but
27:38
eventually you get in a big group that's so cool ball up and you're all building
27:43
like fortress walls together and stuff wow it's a very different gameplay
27:46
experience and they have gone after fortnite so that in my opinion takes a
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little bit of validity away but then they also do have a valid
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argument well the bigger argument here is
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there's no intellectual property protection in games this is a quote
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in movies and music there's ip protection and you can really look after
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your work but in gaming that doesn't exist yet and this is something that should be looked into
28:11
pretty interesting yeah um
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ip protection stuff gets abused a lot um
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you mean there is probably when tom petty or is like
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yo your song sounds just like won't back down and then because it's the same
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chord production even though there is a finite number of chord progressions in the universe yeah
28:32
and like what is that the four chord whatever like everyone is running the
28:36
same thing anyways so like and all the songs actually sound quite different but
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they are running the same back well yeah cause the chords aren't the whole only
28:43
thing you can put that together with a melody which is so the combinations
28:47
there's lots of so like when you see like a mobile game that's called like
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player unknown
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no apostrophe s battle floor and it has like the exact
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same pound icon and it's essentially the exact same game but it's like mobile or
29:05
something i think there's a lot of knockoffs on mobile yeah that's rough
29:09
that's obviously ridiculous if if there's some game in china or a game in
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north america that i don't personally know of that is like they say uh same
29:19
premise gameplay and even graphics and if by same they mean actually the same
29:25
and it has all of those things that are the same that's a problem definitely in
29:29
my opinion that is a problem do you think there's incentive for
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the app stores to be the ones who moderate that
29:36
as far as you know to a certain degree they do the app stores do all right but
29:41
on something like Windows there's no you just download the file right yeah so
29:45
there's nothing they can really do and Windows tried to solve that and everyone
29:48
hated it with good reason because it was terrible
29:52
Windows store is not a fun experience it's almost like freedom of speech it's
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like it's so good when it's free that you got to put up with bad stuff yeah and then
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and but then like
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yeah but then profiting off of it is another thing and and like especially
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when they try to make the name almost the same yeah because they're abusing
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the search terms because like i i have seen i don't remember where it was
30:17
player unknown battle something and i think the last word was changed but they
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were trying to get with the apostrophe yeah yeah they're trying to be like
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people are going to forget that it's unknowns the search engine optimization there is
30:29
a big piece of that i'm sure like you're getting so many matched characters there
30:35
is it just player yeah it's player unknowns there's an apostrophe s yeah but on the
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real one on the real one yeah but uh i don't i don't remember what it was i
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don't even know if it's still around but i remember at some point i saw i guess
30:48
i'll share myself it's actually the knockout is actually
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player unknown
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player unknown it's just like jumbled
30:58
anagram you know how you don't have to actually read if as long as like the
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first and last letter are the same you can yeah just like that
31:06
there's just no way to actually tell it would be like dota is a clone of lol
31:11
yeah which like if anyone's played the two games
31:14
they absolutely know okay first of all defense of the
31:18
ancients came out first so you got to flip those get conked come on but if you
31:23
played the two games if you played defense of the ancients the warcraft 3 mod and then
31:27
uh played league of legends you'd be like wow this is really different and
31:30
then when dota 2 came out if you played the first game and then
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league and then dota 2 you would be like wow this is really different again
31:38
they're very different genres they're they're both
31:41
defense of the ancient style games you still have top middle bottom lane you
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still have jungling you still have hero selection you still have creep waves you
31:48
still have killing minions for money there's lots of those different types of
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similar mechanics but they are very different games
31:56
and like i think it actually takes a different style of person to play each
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one of course if someone's like a pro dota player or league player they can
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probably go back and forth to a certain degree with enough time spent in the
32:08
game and if you threw like a pro dota player against a noob league player i'm
32:12
sure they would wreck them in the noobs game um but like
32:18
that transitions over to almost anything i'm sure a pro cod player
32:24
versus someone who's like never played shooter games before would be able to
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beat the person in counter-strike oh for sure even though they're like
32:32
drastically different games they're both first-person shooters
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but they're drastically different games that's even more of a split than the
32:39
league and dota thing so i'm not trying to pull it that far away i'm not trying to straw man that much but um like i
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know what you're talking about we get it
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yeah yeah amazon gets it too amazon and
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google i i actually have put this story in the wan docs for a couple weeks
32:56
because it's kind of been evolving but i don't know if you guys have actually
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talked about it i haven't even seen it where which one is it or down a little
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bit it starts with amazon okay um so
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in that light let's start from the beginning yeah so what happened was
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google said hey amazon on your echo show device
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we're not going to let you have the youtube app anymore and the reason is
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because your youtube app is actually violating our terms of surface service
33:24
because it's not delivering a great customer experience because there's features missing on the amazon echo show
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which is the echo device that that has a screen on it
33:33
they didn't have things like there was no subscribers there was no recommended
33:37
next video like these things are pretty core to the youtube experience these
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days and for that reason uh google had a nice
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so this is it by the way i haven't seen it before even so this is the device
33:48
there's a billion different amazon devices now so that
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you could watch youtube on that before okay um but then google said yeah you
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gotta drop that because you didn't do it right um
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then amazon said uh okay we're gonna go behind
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google's back and we're gonna implement a new version of youtube that's based on
34:07
the web browser it was pretty jank it was basically just like you know when
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you're on your smart tv and try to use the web browser apparently it was like
34:14
pretty much that bad and they did this behind google's back without their
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authorization and then google pulled that one um
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but it seems it sounds like it's because of their terms of service but there's a
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flip side of the story which is amazon
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hasn't sold does not sell google homes hasn't sold
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chromecast in two years and stopped selling nest devices and nest is now
34:39
owned by google so it's like are they pulling these youtube because
34:45
the terms of service violations or are they pulling youtube because they're
34:48
pissed announcing it's it's reciprocal right
34:52
so yeah so now the situation was that they
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pulled when they pulled youtube the second time from the show they also were
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like you know what we're also pulling youtube from fire tv
35:03
which is the same as like roku like that's a big deal and you need you need
35:08
to have youtube on your on these services
35:11
so that's the basically the two points of leverage because google would you
35:14
can't play with my toy google would love for you to be able to buy at a home
35:19
on amazon yeah because like 25 of all
35:22
e-commerce is on amazon yeah they would love to be on there so now apparently
35:26
they they're having productive talks that's the that's the latest they uh
35:31
they're trying to actually make an agreement because it is mutually beneficial for both parties for them to
35:35
reach an agreement and something they brought something back
35:39
here amazon brought back selling the chromecast
35:43
that's the first concession we've seen oh okay we don't know if they're going to start selling nest again we don't
35:47
know if they're going to get google home on there i doubt it because amazon really wants
35:51
by the way chromecast audio is like sick but sorry continue i love credit cards
35:55
audio yeah that's dope yeah anyway amazon really wants uh
35:59
to take over the smart home thing with echo so i don't know if they're ever gonna have home on there it's speculated
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right now that google may uh rescind their threat to take youtube
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off of fire tv because even though they took youtube off of the aqua show
36:12
immediately fire tv's cancellation wasn't going to happen until the new
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year so hopefully everyone will get everything
36:19
yeah i i think there's some weird parts of this like
36:23
youtube is very open API kind of situation you can build a website that
36:27
just like grabs youtube videos and looks like a video streaming website but just
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plays youtube videos and as far as i know it's fine
36:36
because you're just embedding youtube videos and you can click the youtube button go to their website anyways
36:40
building an app might go too far but i don't think they
36:45
actually need like it's all open API stuff they're
36:49
just hooking into they're not like hacking youtube and taking the videos
36:54
right i think it's because they didn't include some well ostensibly they didn't
36:57
include something subscribe button or something right it was there was no
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subscribers at all you couldn't subscribe to things and there was no
37:05
next video like autoplay predictive which is like all of youtube basically
37:09
yeah their algorithm is like the whole thing yeah i mean sounds i think that's what
37:15
it was like we don't have this in canada this is just like whatever i've never
37:19
even seen this thing before yeah i don't know that's that's interesting
37:24
i wouldn't be surprised if it's google or youtube just
37:30
net neutrality is bs that's why it's gone no
37:34
um that's been i'm going to take a very short aside back to net neutrality and
37:38
then i'll be back oh you poked him you poked the bear you
37:42
got it if you want to be angry about something like net neutrality um which like by all
37:47
means be angry about it try to be angry for the right reasons because if you
37:51
just throw out stuff that isn't actually true it invalidates the argument as a
37:54
whole and actually hurts the side that you're trying to fight for
37:58
another thing that i would say is
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try not to just throw out like personal attacks
38:07
that are baseless unless you're like
38:11
they are x because of all of these factual reasons that are legitimate and
38:16
actually make sense in an argument um and making fun of their physical
38:19
appearance also doesn't help well even if the
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the personal attacks are true that's still on that doesn't help your argument well
38:27
it would it would only have to be uh relevant yes yes and it's it's
38:32
actually kind of difficult to make personal attacks relevant it's possible
38:35
well people did like he is a moral because xyz robert by the p word
38:40
yeah can't be president yeah is president yeah
38:44
we'll never be impeached no trump's america baby oh my god we don't
38:48
get played but just like just just to
38:52
like when you see someone and and to be clear i'm this on the side of like heck
38:56
yeah i want net neutrality this is a good thing i like open internet everyone
39:00
hooray things are good but being like yo this dude has big teeth
39:05
just makes you look really petty
39:08
and makes it so that the side that is on the side of him just looks at you and
39:13
goes like wow our competition is small and
39:17
on the internet no one knows your important point yes on the internet no
39:20
one knows your dog so you might be talking the person who wrote that might be like a 10 year old who
39:25
saw like the trending topic it was just like
39:29
it just like it it overshadowed and it's a very quick easy thing for people to
39:33
click like on and stuff so it often overshadows legitimate claims so and
39:38
there's an issue right now where a lot of people don't actually even know what's wrong with net neutrality they're
39:42
just angry because other people are angry there are legitimate reasons to be
39:45
angry about net neutrality going away a lot of people don't even know them
39:49
because they're like ah this guy that were upset about his
39:53
appearance is taking whatever it is away from us
39:57
that's bad that's not a good position to be it try to educate people make things make sense
40:04
yeah sorry that was a weird aside i just i just wanted to dive back on there
40:09
speaking of uh me wanting to dive places
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had to check this out before the stream because i actually legitimately thought this is pretty cool because i was like
40:50
what the heck is a keyboard overlay it was like this isn't oh it's one of those
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plastic covers i got the library but it's magnetic
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and it's like this one's like marble oh sweet and it actually looks pretty sick
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oh sorry um and i think that's kind of a neat way to mod your keyboard out it
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looks like a trick what do you do with this no no okay so okay so it goes on
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like the body it doesn't go on the keys oh okay that's sweet that's the opposite
41:14
of what i thought it was yeah yeah yeah yeah no i was like but it's gonna be
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like those covers i actually thought that too so you're
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not alone when i first saw this now the world knows we're all on the right page
41:26
now yeah so you it's hard to see from back there but there's essentially the
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layout of a keyboard here and you would push out the areas that are like where
41:33
the the keys are and stuff and it would go on the body around the keyboard to
41:37
give the body of the keyboard a nice marble look and then you still have your
41:40
like RGB black keycaps black keycaps RGB along with white
41:44
marble looks pretty nice oh yeah it'll probably reflect reflected pretty good
41:47
keeps the monochrome kind of idea going on so you can pick whatever RGB color
41:51
you want i'm looking at the box i'm checking out these low profile keys yeah
41:55
man keycaps yeah that's sweet you guys can win one we're giving 10 away uh i'll
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post in the am i twitch chat is that uh uh probably
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not get owned man working here sometimes sucks you can't enter giveaways yeah
42:09
it's like man and then like even if you're allowed to enter a giveaway if
42:12
you win everyone's like you're like dude it's legit rigged
42:17
yeah luke held the hat up real high i couldn't possibly see whose name was on
42:20
the paper i pulled out yeah but
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speaking of things that aren't rigged though fresh books fresh because you
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make your own value out of freshbooks because freshbooks allows you to invoice
42:33
people so you can take money from them for the value that you gave to them
42:37
whether that was a service whether you're like a plumber or a carpenter or
42:41
a person who pets dogs professionally um
42:44
or whether that's a good maybe you make things maybe you sew little things that
42:48
people hang on their walls i don't remember what that's called but crossfit
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uh sure tapestry tapestrist you know the little they put
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them in like a wooden frame and it says something on it that's a cross stitch cross stitch cool whether you're a cross
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stitcher or you do something else apparently i'm not
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feeling super creative today um you you can send them invoices in like a super
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low period of time it can tell you if they've opened the invoice or not so if
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they're like yes i haven't seen your bill so i have not been able to pay it
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you can be like you did and then get them to pay it which is
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actually pretty sweet if you have any questions you can reach out to them and
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you get to talk to their support staff directly you don't have to speak to a
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robot you just go right to a real human no phone trees no escalations no return
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calls you just get answers nothing better than than settling an
43:34
argument with a screenshot hey actually you did i have found
43:39
information saying that what you were saying is not true uh uh let me backpedal uh really busy
43:44
that day i was stressed uh yeah and then it's like okay that's fine
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WAN Show in the how did you hear about a section
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heck yeah and then we have
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moss hmm i don't know if we have one here oh
44:10
here it is okay what is that there's one oh bad
44:14
there's a bat i like that logo these are actually pretty sharp today
44:18
we're talking about the new and improved moss pack and their moss nest bag the
44:24
moss nest bag is designed to hold all your essentials without taking up much
44:27
space that's this little blue one that he's got
44:30
designed to nest inside their outer pocket of their
44:34
moss pack that's this guy there's a lot going on in here
44:38
there is and okay i'm going to say one thing too this is like this this is even
44:42
in the sponsor notes i love it when bags have this type of inside a really really
44:47
bright inside oh yeah and if you spill your yogurt in there like this is you can
44:52
basically just hold this with a hose and just boom yeah for one it's really easy
44:55
to clean but for two like with our blades razor blades okay um if you put a
45:00
razor blade in here one it's black you'll very easily be able to see that your laptop's inside too when you're
45:04
like oh no where's my power cable well the inside's all bright shiny reflective
45:09
orange that's awesome you'll find all your stuff super easily i i love this in
45:13
bed i've never had the privilege of a reflective inside button i'm picking up
45:16
what you're putting down it's one also picking up this included strap yeah yeah
45:21
literally um it can fit a tablet a phone a power bank
45:25
snacks headphones water whatever else you need no big deal moss pack is the
45:29
backpack you plug in to charge your things i wonder if i can pull this out i
45:34
was wondering what that is yeah so you guys can't see it super well but there's
45:38
a pa little power bar in here that has a standard power plug which is nice and
45:43
two usb ports so you could charge like your laptop off the standard power plug
45:47
and then like a phone or a tablet off of the usb ports which is actually pretty
45:52
sweet this is kind of cool there are so many pouches you know what that really
45:55
gets me going because i love having dedicated spots for items i really hope
46:00
my mom isn't watching i'm serious i hope my wife is watching this i
46:04
hate it when things aren't in their spots i hate wasting my precious life
46:09
looking for things like where's my keys they belong in the dish they're not in
46:12
the dish someone else didn't put them in the dish because i always put them in the dish and because i always put them
46:17
in there i know where they are i can find them in the dark this has so many little pockets you can
46:21
be like this is the spot for the phone at all times this is the spot for my
46:24
charger at all times i can go into a tent just like bam bam
46:28
bam perfect love it heck yeah improvements include
46:32
luggage pass through on the back for attaching a luggage handle oh that's
46:36
cool oh that's sweet i haven't even looked
46:39
over at where you're holding that's even cool
46:42
yeah there we go perfect um stronger orange lining here we go so it is in the
46:46
notes actually stronger orange lining to make it super easy to see what's inside
46:50
your backpack it's in the sponsor notes i love that so much i had no idea larger
46:54
waterproof water bottle pocket with fly-out mesh pocket to make getting your
46:58
water bottle in and out much easier greatly improv improved reinforced top
47:04
handle many other manufacturing improvements that's quilted that's all
47:07
the way quilted flushing stuff uh they offer fast free shipping on all us
47:13
orders head over to mossorganizers.com forward slash
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um there isn't a forward slash forward slash Linus and use offer code Linus to
47:23
get 20 off to 20 off today there you go
47:26
do you think it's an acronym moss moss must organize stuff
47:33
let's go to their website and see excuse me
47:38
it's probably it's probably not it looks like it's just moss their web
47:43
yeah it's all moss their whole website is covered in green yeah and stuff we've
47:47
looked at we've looked at their cables and their magnet organizer thingies before but
47:52
this is the first time i've seen their bags that's super cool okay take this away from me
47:55
mine take it and go oh there's a cord in there i'll take this wait you didn't see that
47:59
part i heard it but i didn't see it okay
48:04
wow yeah you plug that into the wall externally
48:08
through this thing it's even soft touch rubber it's not junk so you don't have
48:12
to take the stuff out of your bag i like it it's pretty cool
48:16
all right back to the actual show
48:21
julia from ncx tech tips is back on youtube with mike's computer shop yeah i
48:25
did what they made a little trailer this was posted on the forum by stargaze thank
48:31
you very much stargaze uh let's go over to
48:36
here why was it why did it start finished that's weird
48:39
there we go this is crazy because now that ncx is
48:44
like gone i've actually bought some stuff from mike's computer shop recently
48:47
i feel like i want to do the music for this um
48:51
if the sound is on there's there's no talking in this video it's just like bro
48:56
yeah hopefully it's not like way too loud it's just cool music
49:00
and then you see these big black boots like who's this
49:04
that's someone who identifies as a woman wearing those boots you can tell
49:10
by by the by the hou by the stride by the way they are boom
49:14
wow it was julia long
49:18
mcs tech news reviews how to's whoever wrote that
49:22
i read that earlier i was like that's that's pretty neat it rhymes that is
49:26
pretty neat i like the writing good job impressed
49:29
only 525 views we can get more we can
49:32
there can be zero dislikes so far
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yeah keep it that way good job julia good job mike's computer
49:40
shop that's pretty cool what else you know over there
49:44
uh i think i've i've met her a couple times at least but i don't like know
49:49
her i mostly put this in here because i thought Linus would be sitting here and not me and he'd be like oh cool and he
49:54
have something to say because he probably personally knows her knows her a bit better yeah but i i'm just happy
49:59
because that whole crew is really cool yeah so and i've seen what another one
50:04
of them is doing and i'm not going to say because i don't know if it's public and now i've seen what she's doing and
50:07
i'm just happy that they're continuing to be successful i don't want
50:11
to see any of them fail or falter because they're all really cool people
50:15
um first ever spacex launches reused rocket and capsule i believe this is
50:20
just kind of up and down i don't think it's actually no that puppy's going to
50:23
iss baby oh really 200 pounds of payload
50:26
wow that's sick okay this is posted by no one on the forum this is posted by
50:30
james in the dock yeah there we go nobody well actually it could be in the
50:34
form i didn't do a search but i didn't see it on the front one or two pages so
50:38
so i heard that this wasn't what you're saying it is so that's really exciting
50:42
they're just going for google tell me a liar no i'm not i'm saying that i just
50:46
like heard random small-time misinformation and didn't actually read
50:49
an article about it so that's it well actually it depends on
50:53
maybe you heard a first it was a different first
50:56
like they've done the rocket launch and land like i think 20 straight times or
51:00
something without failure okay and they've done
51:04
like launch launch one of these dragon capsules up this is the first time that
51:09
a reused like already spent rocket is
51:13
underneath an already spent dragon capsule and they're going to nasa and
51:18
nasa is going to be receiving an already used rocket and it's the first time for
51:21
that they had to do like a big comprehensive review to know whether or
51:24
not they wanted to accept that they deemed it a uh
51:28
like a marginal increase in risk uh given like the risks that already exist
51:32
they said it's basically the same so that's wicked
51:35
and it's bringing up real cargo it's actually bringing up a bunch of research
51:39
materials and uh equipment for the scientists that
51:43
live and work up there that is really cool this is really
51:46
exciting i don't really have a ton else to say other than it's really let's just
51:50
revel in how exciting that is yeah like yeah
51:53
that's amazing like imagine every time you flew overseas on a 747
51:58
you got off the plane and it just exploded
52:02
how much would your plane ticket cost like it's pretty insane yeah
52:06
so now like go going there multiple times going to mars going to the moon or
52:10
whatever an order of magnitude cheaper
52:14
that's so cool they're actually doing it and if you haven't seen videos of these
52:18
rockets these first stage rockets autonomously like landing themselves on
52:22
the again autonomous barges that are out to sea
52:25
it's so weird you think it's photoshop you think it's fake it's you it looks
52:29
like you're watching the video and rewind it's like pulled in by a string
52:32
yeah it's always made me think that it's like being pulled in not that it's
52:36
controlled falling so counterintuitive so
52:40
i don't think anyone watching this knows this i don't think i ever talked about this publicly but i tried to send
52:44
uh a little like mini set up okay like a
52:49
while ago and i had as an adult yeah
52:52
okay and i had like but like this size because at first i was like no she's a
52:56
cute kid yeah no i know no i was 25.
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i was uh let's see probably 24 or 25.
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and uh you can you can i know taryn knows because i was researching rocket
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fuel um because i wanted to work with a
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group in the states that does like hobby
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rockets and they've gotten in trouble a lot because it's like sort of
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a potential for a long-range ballistics program and it's like just a bunch of
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random dudes but really they're just trying to be like this was before spacex
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became like really big uh the spacex was kind of around but
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they weren't really big yeah yeah yeah yeah so i don't remember exactly we've been around like 17 years now or
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something it's been a while yeah uh but
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and i was trying to figure out like how much can i pay them to get them to put a
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little cubesat up oh and all this kind of stuff and yeah i know it's uh it's
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way too much money yeah yeah well that's probably a good thing you don't want it to get so decentralized that anybody can
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put anything in space yeah yeah i i yeah we're having a hard enough time having
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everybody able to put anything they want on the internet
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on youtube that's fair and like clutter around the oh space garbage garbage
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it's not great yeah i don't know
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i fixed it i hear Linus's voice well this show's over Linus except that we
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still need to talk about Floatplane come here and talk about Floatplane
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and uh let me go home for the weekend tag me in coach
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yay i don't have a thanks
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thanks everybody bye bye oh son
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hi everyone yeah i was gonna say should we put me in
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the thumbnail wow okay we have to do something crazy then because usually i
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have an entire show worth of like us reacting to things to pull from
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um
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perfect done oh that's the worst so the thunder the first the thumbnail aids the
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first posed lan show yeah thumbnail yeah and it's probably not even going to be
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that great yeah yeah probably not um
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what do we have for what do we have for stuff on Floatplane right now
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good so good is everything good it looks like it's good it's my thing yeah yeah no it
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should be fine it should be fine yeah you got this you got this
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we've got uh techwiki how does your web browser
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know your location that's actually pretty interesting yep ah actually it's
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a and it's a really really cool topic and there's sort of more to it than i
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thought because there's some stuff that i know already like the ip leases for
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uh for isps are regional so therefore they can approximate your location
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but then there's a bunch of other like actually kind of scary stuff
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and that's how they know like exactly where you are
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without gps yeah which is neat
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it's neat to know how it works yeah uh contactless payment technology in a
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glove oh that's up on youtube no one liked it okay i mean some people liked
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it okay um like two-thirds of people liked it
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there i'll quantify who likes outside of youtube statistics that's not bad yeah
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yeah there we go we'll take it from that um setting up brand new sets that's cool
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yeah so this is like uh the team paints
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i rage out because that's what happens when other people paint on vlogs yeah
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basically if you liked construction vlog or moving vlog it's
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kind of along those lines okay uh what else we got what about the i just seen
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studio tour yeah that's the feedback on this is really good so
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and you you have talked about this before i don't think on the show at all
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because this came up this week so we wouldn't have talked about it earlier um
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but it's it's right we weren't going to talk about too much because of spoilers yeah
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everything's kind of a spoiler but i'll say this if you weren't intrigued enough to sign
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up for Floatplane already i'll try this wrapping paper
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wrapping paper fetish what
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see now you're intrigued aren't you
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okay moving on um just
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okay uh how to boost your cell signal yeah that's cool quickie
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the dumb blonde of virtual assistants nice the gebo robot the tweet for this
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was glorious this thing is so bad like i
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can't believe it's on the cover of time they clearly it's on the cover yeah as
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one of the top 25 inventions this year they clearly never even looked at it
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that like actually hurts my soul yeah like they're not they they weren't even
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trying all right all right
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and then i think we're we're almost getting back to last week but we've got 1070 sli and a slim laptop that's insane
57:45
the question mark in the title is it stupid um yes
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yes it is but you can watch the video if you want the longer more verbose version
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of that if you want us to explain why texture on candy battle yeah tech
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showdown part one is up i don't know if you knew that is it on youtube no yeah
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okay so i did know that so part one is on Floatplane uh part two is coming to
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Floatplane tomorrow part one is coming to youtube tomorrow okay yeah so tech
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showdown has been sort of reimagined um
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heavily heavily reimagined it's it's
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more like scrapyard wars of modding and less like arts and crafts
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though to be clear there's still arts and crafts and we don't buy anything
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used but he's not wrong
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because it is still kind of yeah i don't know that's actually a pretty good description but there's also the weird
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caveats that go against it anyways yeah tons of great stuff on Floatplane and
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that's pretty much the show you missed the almost all of it okay i have to go
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review the razer phone video with taran okay he just finished editing it so
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you're also leaving again yeah all right well
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there you go all right see you next week
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that are as big as your fist dumb
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okay bye guys