Is Gaming on Windows DEAD?? - WAN Show August 24, 2018
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2019-05-06
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keeping the twitch chat primed it is when show time and we have a great show
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for you guys today did you roast me at all because that's usually what i do with you when you're when you're late no
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i'm a nice person actually instead i was talking about how exciting it is
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that this is the last WAN Show
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that will be exclusive to twitch tv
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i saw that coming yes yeah so uh i don't
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know if you saw but we streamed on the youtube channel
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we had 25 000 concurrents i was there
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when you hit it watching me talk about iomu groups and virtualization
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imagine if we were doing something that people cared about
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imagine yeah is my imagination facebook well one of the big things one of the
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like huge problems um and
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uh i i can't say necessarily like what we talked about but when i was down at
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twitch a while ago we talked about like a side discussion of discoverability
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and search ability and stuff on twitch is horrible yep
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finding what you want on twitch is actually terrible in the last
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it's got four years in the last four years Linus media group has like tripled
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in terms of its youtube viewership oh yeah in terms of just every aspect of
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the business pretty much has probably tripled in the last four years
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except twitch viewership which is half of what it was then yeah and it's like
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either and remember too i'm talking WAN Show
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archive as well yeah and like when when
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he's talking about how it's gone like almost in the
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same magnitude opposite direction when we were hosting the windshield when we
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first got in this building yeah and it was in what we called the library yes we
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were consistently hitting 10k yeah
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so either it's us which it doesn't seem to be because literally every other
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platform streaming or vod is going in
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the complete opposite direction yeah or it's something about twitch and the type
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of content i mean we used to be the only non-gaming content on the site which might have
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made us stand out more like there weren't any podcasts and i used to like
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that we were on there they used to care because we were pretty much the only
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version of that so that would promote us yeah and on twitch to to be relevant you
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basically have to be streaming a lot every day because the discoverability is
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terrible but there was something else too now i know it's not ready yet don't freak out but
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because we're going to be simulcast streaming yeah we might as well stream
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on Floatplane and wait hold on i have a cool idea i
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have no issue with it i'm going to have to check with my my fp peeps in the chat
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here but what if we absolutely
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cranked like went absolutely bat crap
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crazy on the bit rate i think uh i think uh last new group's gonna have to you
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know pony up for that oh yeah oh yeah is that what you think no because we're we're helping you betta test okay yeah
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okay that's right but hold on a second because even if our real-time transcode
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isn't working yet because we'll be simultaneously streaming Floatplane
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pilots so i was thinking the chat that we focus on is the Floatplane chat
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so if people want to chat on WAN Show basically you can think of it kind of
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like twitch prime except you just actually pay Linus media group instead
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of paying twitch a bunch of money also Floatplane media is going to take
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some of it too but that's fine they're cool guys i'm expecting aj yell at me
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pretty soon but but get this if people if people
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can't handle like a 30 megabit stream like something absolutely nuts like we
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go crazy on it yeah if they can't handle it they just watch the video on twitch
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or youtube yeah whatever and they just use their Floatplane chat
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yeah then they still get the benefit of the Floatplane membership
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and we can experiment with different kinds of streaming qualities and and
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stuff like that i don't know i've done i've done it's pretty cool right i've done a bunch of streams on Floatplane
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the quality and the the delay and everything is all really good so like i'm i'm sure it would 4k stream
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i haven't done that i have not i have not done that um okay
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so one one thing to bring up here a little interesting to bring it up yes
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live on the thing but yeah we're not we haven't done it yet yeah we haven't we
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haven't had our Floatplane lunch this week actually or last night not even
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that yeah no i know so like we've got we've got lots of we got lots of updates
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because i got something really good for you as soon as you're done okay so go ahead you go this isn't actually about
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Floatplane this is um yeah well sort of if you wanted to
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yeah if you wanted to stream on full-time
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or or youtube if you want to stream on either of those right now i think you'd
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be breaking the contract with twitch because you have a sub button yeah i
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know they can kick us out so you have to yeah i would just be aware of that yeah
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yeah that's fine i think we get like a couple hundred dollars a month or
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something like that like yeah it's not gonna matter it's it's not gonna make or break
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our twitch subscribers of course but yeah compared to if you support us on
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float please it's really not that helpful so
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literally Linus media group will make more money out of that
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and then floor plan media gets supported too which is great yeah then luke might
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be able to afford a razor yeah
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okay get this so it's a rough week um you know how a Floatplane needs like
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baller network connections and stuff for some of the things it does yeah i might
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be able to give Floatplane access to uh you know vanix
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vancouver internet exchange yes yeah yeah yeah so um
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Linus media group might be upgrading its connection
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what to a dedicated wavelength
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whoa directive annex
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how did you even wrangle that
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okay wouldn't that mean that you basically have to be your own
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so we're we're working with it's a small time our isp
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although they've grown a lot since we first started working so it's through them
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they're pretty cool guys um cause i was like you have to be your
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own isp i've got i've got the cto's
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phone number a cell phone number like he replies to my emails at like two
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in the morning he's a super cool guy yeah yeah yeah freaking awesome um
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so i'm not gonna i'm not gonna like yeah i'm not gonna not gonna say too much but
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like our isp dope guys uh local guys um i tell i
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don't you've probably never heard of them no but um
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they're cool guys and anyway so so it's going to be a dedicated 10 gigabit per
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second wavelength straight to vanix no switches
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and then we're we're actually i couldn't afford the entire 10 gigabit per second
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of like internet access okay uh so it's gonna be 5.5 slum in it
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5.5 gig okay what's the i don't want to know the
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exact dollar value what's the like differential i'll tell you i'll tell you after hold on but but but what's cool is
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that we're going to have because they're bros
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and because it doesn't cost them more because they're already in bannix
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anyone else in vanix we're going to have 10 gig too
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so it's 5 gig 5.5 off thenx but then it's 10 gig to
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aws uh google um akamai
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uh like basically 10 gig to anyone that matters
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you can go check it's got a list of everyone that's on there so anyway uh
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you guys could definitely have some rackspace and uh i'm sure we could find a way to
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make that that extra you know five gigabit or whatever somewhat beneficial
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ovh is on phoenix so so we could that's pretty great
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so we could we could try and we could try and offset your you know extra
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streaming cost or whatever try and help try and help your brother out there yeah
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yeah yeah um so anyway anyway so that's that's my cool news okay so it's it's
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costing um 30 more than our one gig
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switched fiber connection which was already really expensive but
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now the new price that doesn't actually sound that bad it's not that bad yeah
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plus over the three years we owe them one video which is fine because like who
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cares sounds like they're probably gonna end up getting one anyway and uh and
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honestly they would have probably gotten uh hopefully they're not watching uh
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they probably would have gotten one anyway because the whole bonded internet thing
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that we did that was like a commercial product that they had before um they
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have they acquired the company that did the software for the bonding um rewrote
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it so it's multi-threaded now so you don't need such an expensive appliance
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to do it and they wanna oh i wonder if this is confidential well whatever
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they're gonna have they're gonna have better products and
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services oh crap i hope i just didn't get in a lot of trouble
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uh well whatever they're cool guys uh why don't we just say that and with cool
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stuff so we probably already made a video anyway um we got a lot of great topics for you
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guys today uh rtx
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yeah everybody talked about it we haven't yet really ninth gen Intel chips
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yeah this is cool steam compatibility tools so you can play more games on on
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Linux and uh 10 series gtx cards are on
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sale also this intro you can watch it now
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you know how much would people pay to see them
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like Linus versus austin cage fighting oh my god
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dude and like works out a lot i thought you
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know oh i mean i'm so interested right now
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the the difference but austin's such a nice person i don't know i don't think
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he'd want to do it he's actually just so nice
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he's like a really good guy i don't know i'm so interested though because he's
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ridiculously fit and works out all the time he's super fit um but i don't i
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don't think he's like actually trained for fighting though yeah but and you are
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that would be a pretty distinct advantage it would like i actually at
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our weight class i really don't think him being more fit is going to be very helpful but
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it's an interesting thank you uh it's still an interesting
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comparison if you know what i mean um yeah i guess
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a benchmark okay yeah yeah yeah yeah pretty much
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just to be clear guys
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lioness and austin are not boxing
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that that well that is not a thing we're doing uh although if he was down
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like not like not like mma no
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whoops we don't swear on the way not like mma like freaking bare knuckle or
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anything like that but like but the box boxing could be interesting especially
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because i've never boxed before okay
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so but like i know you know pretty much most the basics i know how to punch i
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know how to dodge i know how to block like i could probably put two and two
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together especially against another amateur but uh
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tell you what tell you what if austin's down i'll box austin there you go god i
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can't even believe that just happened uh so for the context that people are
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wondering logan paul and ksi are fighting tomorrow i think i think it's
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tomorrow is that real what really that's like a thing yeah it's
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ridiculous yeah i've been training for a while some some
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external dude did a video on
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uh how hard they're punching so i watched that because it wouldn't give
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either them views um and i'll tell you this ksi has way
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better form and clearly knows what he's doing a lot better than logan but then
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logan is a mountain so we'll see
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logan has much longer reached is this actually as much like a pay-per-view
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thing or is this a pay-per-view on youtube
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yeah yeah it's kind of interesting though people
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are going to hate watch it the people are going to watch the
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so that they see each of them or one of them individually
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get hit in the face that's like absolutely that is the entire show see
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that's what i think i think your if oh my goodness i don't think that's going
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to be a thing um but if you and austin are a thing no
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that's not going to be a thing i don't think that's true there's no way and i'm i am joking but it does it
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wouldn't have the allure of the like the hateful no it would be a friendly yeah
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it would be clearly a friendly bow and i can't think i'm sure there's some but i
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can't think of anyone who actively wants to see you guys hit in the face i don't
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think i could punch austin it's too nice
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like really i would not want to you know i've actually i've actually uh i
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shouldn't say never it's complicated but
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i don't really i don't really count the only time that i've ever fought with
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someone like i i've never really been in a fight
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no no i i'm i'm of i'm a pretty i'm a pretty
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passive like turn the other cheek kind of most
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real ones don't last very long right when you don't have gloves and
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like a helmet thingy i guess that's true they like really
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someone gets hit a couple times they're like wow this isn't
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nice i usually want to stop you know what's really crazy um the the guy so we
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have a video coming soon uh once again i hope i'm not revealing too much well my
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hair is just like spectacularly bad good cool no good yeah you know what we're
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just we're going to embrace it i'm just going to have like
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gamer hair today um so we have a sponsored video coming
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up on deepspar have you ever heard of deepspar uh yeah but i don't know a time about it
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but i've heard of it so deepspar is a data recovery company that is not like
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you send your hard drive there and they recover your data they actually build
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tools for data recovery companies um anyway so they sponsored a video
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we're gonna have that coming out pretty soon it's on Floatplane already and um
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the guy the the the son of the ceo who also
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accessed like kind of an operations manager like he's an executive there
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okay we're going to lunch and i'm like so like what are your hobbies and he's
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like oh like uh bare knuckle mma fighting
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and i'm like really okay and he's like oh yeah love
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it and i'm like so basically you're in fight club and he's like pretty much and
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he starts to like pull back some of his clothes
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and he starts showing me like some of the bruises that are on him like right
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now meanwhile the guy is like dressed in business casual because he's like at
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work and i'm just i'm looking at this going
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like i don't think i'm gonna put a toe out of line and i think we better
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deliver a really good video for these guys he's like explaining to me how he has no
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feeling left in his shins yeah no that well that's a goal you want that yeah
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yeah yeah yeah he's like yeah like here here like i just like i don't even feel
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anything he starts like hitting it i'm like stop yeah it's fine i believe he
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did that on purpose to get to that point right micro fractures and stuff kind of
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ridiculous yeah so so that that's a thing that's
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not me i i don't have that killer instinct unfortunately
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my left hip your left hip yeah same situation really
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yeah because in in football and rugby basically my right side was always my
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more accurate and stronger side uh-huh so whenever i would hit people i would
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lead on left so every single time i would hit someone
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i would throw a little bit more to my left it wasn't really supposed to but my
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whole idea was like if it gets a little hurt i can stay in
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because everything that matters is on my right side um so yeah my left hip is
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like mostly numb i don't really feel anything there huh
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that's just a random yeah so if i ever actually did have to fight you for some
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reason go for the right probably yeah
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generally with like everything my right side is just generally less and then die
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so when someone laughed rugby in canada yeah it was uh it was definitely the
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worst team i was on i'll give you that much we were not good
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i don't necessarily particularly remember ever winning
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but we might have there was a pretty like there was a
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pretty good rugby rugby program at my high school actually my high school no
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there was it was the only thing we had there was some yeah there okay so i have
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heard of schools that are like that yeah um and there was like one or two schools
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that we went against that were pretty good but it was not like uh
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it was not super common right and our school was definitely not good
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cool at all um all right so why don't we jump right
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into Intel 9th gen chips on pre-order
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for pre-order on a dutch site so this was originally posted by tweakers.net it
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was posted uh our original article is from tweakers.net
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and it was posted by robbie on the forum and if uh if the rumors are going the
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way they have been so far it will be said on stage that they're not true and
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then immediately after said after they said that they'll be 100
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accurate yeah exactly um you know also there's not a whole lot
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of useful information here i mean the top the top chip the 9900k is listed 833
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euros i really don't think that's very likely
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i wouldn't be surprised if we saw a slight price hike over the
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8700k but i don't i don't see it going even if it is in that euro range the
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products are usually more expensive in euros
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anyways um the more interesting part of the rumors is that it seems to be a
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confirmation that we're going to see Intel's core i3 i5 i7 thing is about to
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get even more confusing because we're going to have a core i7 that doesn't
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have hyper threading oh boy yeah so it
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looks like three models uh 9600k so
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that's a six core six thread we're gonna have a 9700 k that's a core
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i7 so that's eight cores eight threads
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and then we're gonna have a core i oh no it will be an i9 oh my goodness okay and
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then we're gonna have a core i9 on the mainstream platform that is eight thread
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eight core 16 threads what are they doing
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why are they making this did i miss something or what's up with the plus two
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so plus means uh with optane support
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oh i've actually been meaning to do a video about that like wtf is core i7 plus yeah it
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basically it's a core i7 and also you put optane in your computer okay yeah no
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that's like that's that's silly
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i mean the thing to put on the plus i understand what they're doing because
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you can't really differentiate on CPU performance anymore so you might as well
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differentiate on the overall benefits of your platform what's the i don't know
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why i'm drawing a blank on this because i think it's super cool and talk about it relatively often but the the like uh
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GPU compute thing that people use for video encoding
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or the CPU yeah sync that if it was plus
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and that meant quick sync yeah that would honestly make more sense to me yeah but then that would be bad for them
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yeah because then you'd have core i9 plus on the mainstream platform and no
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core i9 plus the other one um speaking of Intel and their gpus we
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actually screwed something up when we did our larabee video
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actually no i'm not going to move on to that yet because i wanted to talk about
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uh core i3 versus i5 versus i7 are we
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just skipping this Intel well people keep complaining that we
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haven't talked about it so naturally my initial reaction to that is to troll
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them by keeping avoiding it yeah yeah um
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this this is why Intel you shouldn't make this branding any more confusing
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9.5 this is the second most watched
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video that Linus media group has ever made
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what the heck is core i3 i5 or i7 at 9.5
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million views melting screen prank isn't there i just want to know i checked i
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checked the other day you're not there it's close
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melting screen prank is number three i think oh my goodness yeah why does it
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keep going up uh it's still doing really well i think every time i check it it's
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up like a million views um core i and core i9
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isn't generating any less confusion because that was four years ago with
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nine and a half million views and this is a year a year ago with two million
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views and remember that core i9
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is such a a one percenter product anyway
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yeah that literally all of them watched it
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not even just that a huge amount of people watched it because they were like what what
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should i care i bet as many people watch this video as have bought core i9s total
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ever and that's a problem when you have to do
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that much education for you with your consumers
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sorry what was that what was i going to talk about before i don't remember it's
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not important we're dodging rtx it seemed important no there was there was another thing that i was that we were
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talking about how uh some of them don't have hyper threading
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when it seems like they should oh yeah the plus thing is super weird so we're
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gonna have to make another video last thing is dumb oh you were gonna make a video about
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uh the plus oh yeah yeah that that's basically it we just wanted to do a
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video kind of like sharding on it because we think it's pretty dumb yeah
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um like we don't think optane is dumb i i actually we've done sponsored stuff
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for optane this isn't it optane tech is
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cool yeah definitely cool um
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oh wow you know what just occurred to me
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with that pipe in here we could also experiment with server
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configs that we can't necessarily buy
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or rent at existing data centers like we could build something totally custom
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throw it in and see what happens what do you mean like if we wanted to experiment
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with something like options yeah yeah definitely
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that would be cool yeah okay anyway sorry i just think aj's would
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geek the freaking hell out over that i think so too cause uh i've actually
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got a project upcoming six workstations one CPU i was streaming about that today
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yeah and um i might be able to get a hookup on some optane drives for that
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and then once that's done i could rip them out we could throw them in a server
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and just would you want to see what happens LTT videos about that
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yeah i think so potentially sure seems interesting yeah i don't see why not i
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would be interested and like i don't necessarily care if
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people know what like what our experimental server yeah in the LMG
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office is like whatever i don't think it matters oh no you can see the videos
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you're paying to see good heavens yeah
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all right what else what else we got today um actually this is a really big
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topic so why don't we do the NVIDIA thing first i guess sure uh so this was
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posted by rat and man on the forum we will finally acknowledge it uh the
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original source is i don't know everywhere everyone's talking about it
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um GeForce rtx yeah NVIDIA has new cards um
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they're sold out everywhere the brand did you know that
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they're legit sold out everywhere really you can't buy them anymore they're all
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out a bunch of people were like oh oh like you can solve the the availability
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problems by like cranking the price and video you thought about that
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and then boom sold out almost immediately
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there's people like angry that they can't buy them like it's really yeah
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yeah but they don't even know what the performance is yet no one seems to care
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it's a great world isn't it really there's like there's less
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performance metrics than there was on the pascal launch there's basically none
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even the pascal launch like they had more direct performance metrics they
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were like it compares this weird abstracted number better in
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this game uh but like snp based and that was the
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weirdness with every generation NVIDIA's hubris grows
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but the thing about hubris is that it's supposed to like cause some kind of
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downfall and i don't foresee that as long as people keep giving them money
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for stuff that's completely sighted out of nowhere and like i think i think
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the the prediction from last when even if it doesn't end up being
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completely true yeah is going to be more true than is kind of comfortable
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because i really don't think there's going to be a huge performance increase i think it's a feature thing yeah that's
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what it looks like because ray tracing does seem super cool it's going to be
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faster gddr6 is faster and i'm sure they haven't been
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completely sitting on ass for the last two years so obviously it's going to be
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a bit faster but i don't think the FPS increases
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are the story here is the story here um
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here's the thing that makes me uncomfortable a lot of the ray tracing demos that we've seen so far we're
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running at like 45 frames per second for one of them
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um and i'm kind of looking at it going
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30 to 45 to be cleared to 45 was on the high end for tomb raider
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when was the last time you felt like
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lighting was the issue for in-game realism
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okay so i will answer this in two different ways one is more direct to the
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question and one of them is a little bit more abstracted sure
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basically never for the first one yeah but
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really really really good applications of lighting have definitely helped with
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realism and there is examples of like holy cow with the right lighting
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that really helps get you out of the valley
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the uncanny valley thing is what i'm talking about i can understand the
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benefits to it um but it is extremely
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a like if we're talking about gaming it's extremely a single-player focused
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thing because if you're playing anything multiplayer you're going to want to turn that the heck off yeah
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because for me like i i i have always been far more i've
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always found poor facial animations
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um yeah or definitely or low resolution textures or just
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poorly done graphics in general yeah or just uh
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us lazy or sloppy uh set deck is what we
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call it in production i don't know what they call it in gaming but just like the
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the the clutter in a room when you walk into it like seeing that same clock
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model reused a lot like that kind of stuff is far more jarring
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to me than the bounces of the light rays as
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they move around a scene somewhat someone in uh chat said lol
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lighting ray tracing isn't just about well it's x47 i'll give you a call isn't
26:41
just about lighting for games the most important thing will be reflections that can show objects that are behind a
26:46
perspective camera wow that's niche um
26:50
he didn't have the wild that's niche part i threw that in there his little flavor text also reflections or lighting
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uh
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right there bro so
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i okay i think the tech is actually really cool and i was talking to
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um i had a buddy over here who he i told
27:12
you about him i met him in sweden he gave me the tour of the particle
27:16
accelerator Labs and the laser Labs and stuff he's really excited about it from
27:20
like scientific applications yes because those cores are going to be super
27:24
helpful yes and like he's stoked um also they might actually
27:30
be willing to do videos at that place now that would be amazing yeah okay
27:34
we'll take that offline yeah okay um and
27:37
it's still very unsure and stuff but i'll get you more info later sure uh but
27:40
like he's really stoked and that's really cool and that lines up with the
27:43
story that NVIDIA has been giving us for quite a few years now which is where
27:46
like ai stuff is important science is important we're doing the deep learning
27:50
stuff we're doing blah blah blah blah they've been trooping for this for a very long time i wish i owned NVIDIA
27:54
stock yep it it it yeah exactly
27:59
it makes sense in there in their path that they've been taking it's all very
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logical the fact that the performance jump probably isn't going to be that
28:07
huge but they have this really cool ray tracing stuff and they have the new
28:10
cores and all that kind of stuff that's all very cool basically NVIDIA has gone
28:14
from making gaming gpus that they adapt to workstations
28:18
and professional uses to making professional gpus and then
28:23
trickling the features down to gaming somehow and i think that is reflected
28:28
in the fact that um the 1080 ti is basically a titan
28:33
which has been more or less accepted by most people yes
28:38
so anyway the prices that these cards have sold out at yeah say 1080 yeah
28:43
twenty-eight i meant twenty-eight yeah so that's gonna take a while the founders edition 2080 ti is 1200 u.s
28:48
the founder's edition 2080 is 800 u.s and the founders edition 2070 is 600. so
28:54
the best news i think coming out of all of this given that anytime like i've uh
28:59
so here's the other problem when NVIDIA launched the 1080
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it was all about this voxel based illumination stuff
29:08
like snp that was all they wanted to talk about
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are there any games that used it
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smp simultaneous multi-projection that would
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that was actually the biggest thing that they were pushing was that the big thing yes
29:23
simultaneous multi-projection and games used that but it was vr the voxel thing
29:28
yeah global illumination i'm pretty sure vxgi that's what they
29:32
called it yeah voxel global illumination vxgi
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um the xgi game
29:42
so there's a epic games demo from 2015.
29:47
unreal engine 4.19 NVIDIA vxgi flow blast so here's my problem
29:52
anytime we get a fundamental shift in the way that games are rendered
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the first generation card that supports it
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by the time any games launch any demanding aaa grade games launch that use it
30:06
is not going to perform well enough for
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the way it's meant to be played experience that's my problem every time
30:14
we get a card that is sold based on a feature whether that feature is
30:17
tessellation or whether it's directx 12
30:21
or whether it's vxgi you go back again and again and again and again and
30:25
there's a selling feature and then that's when you have hardware
30:29
so game developers can actually start working on the bloody thing and then
30:32
there's the next card or the one after that that actually does it well enough
30:36
that you can get a great gaming experience with it that's my concern
30:40
about ray tracing with these new cards is that yes they will support it but
30:44
when we actually get games that do a fantastic job once the game developers
30:48
fully understand this technology and know how to use it
30:52
it's probably not going to be able to keep up but i could be wrong and i mean
30:55
frankly for me if we don't see any improvement in anything other than
30:59
lighting if ray tracing is the only thing that that the game engine makers
31:03
work on over the next couple of years and they they find a way to make me
31:07
totally wrong because the games will basically run the same way that they run
31:11
now except we'll be fully utilizing this ray tracing additional hardware yeah
31:15
then then great um
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but i don't know i i don't know if i've yet seen something that has broken that
31:23
pattern can you think yeah well okay to again
31:27
it's i first card that supported physx by the time anything really implemented
31:31
physx properly did it run well no i do fully believe the bigger push for pascal
31:37
was snp um and looking up snp game is going to
31:41
be confusing because smp is a like a vr thing and it's like a suite of things as
31:46
well and you can use it different ways so there's games that weren't really vr
31:50
based that used parts of it to right do things uh but really there wasn't a ton
31:55
of titles that utilize snp right
31:59
as far as i know okay you're thinking short term that is
32:03
exactly what we're doing that's exactly what we're doing when you spend your
32:06
money you're actually buying a thing to actually use especially when you're
32:10
buying like emerging technologies yeah and like here's here's the thing is that
32:16
it's kind of funny because it's one of those situations where the more affluent
32:21
you are almost the more
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likely you are when the next one comes out that can actually run it well the
32:29
more likely you are to just be able to buy that too so if you can afford a 2080 ti now
32:35
then you could probably afford to just run your 1080 ti that you probably have
32:40
until a ti comes out that'll actually run like
32:43
by the time some games come out that can actually utilize it you can probably just buy that that's my point it's
32:48
almost like the more money you have the less it makes sense to waste it
32:52
whereas if you were someone who had to scrimp and save in order to get a 2080
32:56
ti well then you're probably getting a big upgrade because you're probably
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running something that's a lot slower so you're probably also getting additional
33:03
performance you're on like six or 700 series i guess that's that's kind of the
33:06
point like if you're someone who upgrades every three or four years by
33:10
all means go out and buy a 2000 series have fun because you're going to be
33:13
getting a great upgrade across the board it's just until i see it i'm going to
33:17
have a hard time believing that based on this feature this upgrade makes a ton of
33:21
sense for someone that has a modern card unless again uh i've been wrong before
33:27
buddy we don't have performance benchmarks yet yeah i don't have a card yeah
33:32
so i'm just talking out of my butt yeah who knows
33:36
the the fact that everyone pre-ordered this already is freaking insane
33:42
yeah and every generation of cards NVIDIA just kind of takes even more
33:46
control over the the messaging like
33:49
they've they've announced the cards they've put them on sale
33:53
and we still the the independent media knows
33:56
absolutely nothing other than what we've had leaked by NVIDIA's partners or what
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they said on a stage
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yeah dang yeah and like obviously
34:08
and i'm sure some people are thinking this no one's really said it but
34:11
you're thinking of this uh there is benefit to us to say wait for
34:15
performance benchmarks yeah sure sure of course yeah but there's also a huge
34:19
benefit to you yeah so like just throwing that up we're both
34:24
benefiting here this is this is great for both no no
34:28
fake news fake news media and not even just us you should like
34:32
watch our video when it comes out check out our performance benchmarks and then
34:35
look at like a lot of other people's yeah yeah go check out go check out shroud go
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check out a non-tech i'm sure ryan will do some stuff like
34:43
by all means like it's like doing a little mix of like the video people and
34:46
the written people that's good um aiden games 1250 thank you very much for the
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those are dark i
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wow these are so dark i can barely see that
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yeah but uh so if you were wondering why we're doing this yeah if you if you look
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at it like straight on it's basically black yeah if there was any doubt that
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the polarization was working yeah let let me put that to restaurant it's very
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clearly working that's very very working interesting so this monitor is polarized
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the other way yeah compared to my laptop oh and yours too and mine how very
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this big how terrifying is that yeah it's pretty
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that does sound delicious it also sounds like carolina reaper's second ingredient
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it also sounds savage yeah yeah yeah savage jerky
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i think i think
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why would you move right then
39:28
there's there's hot sauce all over my laptop
39:33
oops oh man that's a lot i'm gonna die
39:36
well hold on how much do you have oh i wasn't looking i'm pretty sure that's
39:39
more what happened i don't actually no no i was looking when i was pouring the
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other one where's the lid did that get on you
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yeah it's all over my pants ooh
39:51
hot pants that's spicy i'm wearing hot pants yeah
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what just happened oh did someone just turn off all the filming lights
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that's only one of them thank you i think they're working on it okay okay
40:08
who has more do we have the same amount that's pretty similar i might have
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slightly less but my finger is bigger okay you've got some wrapped around
40:16
be aware of that okay all right uh yeah i think we're good ed okay
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i actually really don't want to do this okay
40:29
oh i can already feel loud
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oh
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ed could i get a paper towel
40:50
i spilled hot sauce on my laptop
40:54
i need something to wipe it off with oh
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my eyes are fine i'll try to prove that oh no i i got
41:19
them tears you know crying a little bit yeah but i uh so my
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my chest has already not felt very good today i'm man enough to cry
41:28
i can feel it oh maybe this will clear me up you know
41:34
oh once you get like if i wasn't just drinking it
41:39
um like i i actually i love hot sauce on my
41:44
like marinara pasta yeah yeah yeah like putting that in like a pasta or
41:49
something that's it's really nice the flavors are
41:52
really good it's got some lime to it like it's
41:55
that is actually a really delicious hot sauce got a nice acidity i wouldn't
41:59
recommend just drinking it yeah
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nice okay well there you go i've i'm actually i'm gonna take that home one
42:06
thing i noticed about that was the immediacy of it
42:10
some of them there's like a bit of a delay yeah that hits you right away
42:14
oh okay straight to the vein all right all right uh anyway
42:20
do we have any more like tech news topics we wanted to talk about here uh
42:23
there okay there's wow oh yeah
42:27
steam compatibility tool yeah oh do you want to do the kalashnikov electric car
42:31
first that's amazing but we want to do that first no let's do it first let's do
42:34
it first okay so kalashnikov
42:38
yes that kalashnikov i always thought it was
42:42
kalishnikov but it's like it's not it's like clearly not spelled that way so did
42:46
i um
42:49
it actually looks really cool it actually looks really cool and like that
42:53
i really like the style kind of like like
42:57
hipstery like like modern but with classic inspiration
43:02
yeah like i'm not really a car guy like it's clearly old school but then the the
43:06
rims and the lights and the grooves real like that would turn my head down the
43:10
street oh yeah yeah yeah it looks great for sure in most styles most cool modern
43:16
cars yeah it's hard to see them ever being classic
43:20
yep whereas this has a really iconic looking design it's really different
43:25
really different from anything else so russian weapons manufacturer
43:30
kalashnikov best known for making the ak-47 has unveiled a fleet of electric
43:35
and hybrid cars buggies and motorcycles these guys went all out i guess them
43:41
falling weapons uh rifle sales in the us
43:44
might be prompting this you know about that right no i didn't yeah so it's
43:48
interesting for the gun companies
43:51
um democratic leadership has actually been better for
43:56
their sales because people run out oh that makes
44:00
sense buy a bunch of guns wow just in
44:03
case so they'll get grandfathered in in case a bunch of anti-gun protection yep
44:09
um anyway so this includes an electric
44:12
vehicle that the company claims will rival tesla
44:17
well when tesla makes all their stuff open source it kind of makes sense it's a concept car dubbed the cv-1 and bears
44:22
a close resemblance to the soviet era trebant see i'm not actually like i'm
44:27
not a car guy so i'm not that let's have a let's have a look at that
44:31
we can i don't know how to pronounce it but i've seen it before for sure
44:35
i watched a mini documentary on it okay yeah it does kind of there's
44:40
clearly a lot of faulty towers
44:44
wait what hold on a second is this the car that
44:47
what is this from i thought he drove a british car no it
44:51
can't be there's no way he's driving like a soviet car that can't be right anyway um
44:56
it just it looks like the parking lot of the faulty towers hotel from the show
45:02
it's not is it anyway whatever so that's
45:05
the car it's based on looks really cool um
45:09
let's have a look here so the cv one is based on the trabant was the way east
45:14
german car okay east german car
45:18
starch plastic there you go uh so it's based on the retro izh
45:23
22 21 252 and that's known as the combi and
45:28
it's a test bed for kalashnikov's electric drivetrain um so the company
45:33
said they developed it in-house it's got a cruising range of 350 clicks zero to
45:37
100 kilometers so that's zero to 60 for our american friends in roughly six
45:40
seconds and 90 kilowatt hours
45:44
our battery capacity of 90 kilowatts per hour i think that means 90 kilowatt
45:48
hours i think that's just a typo in our notes yeah
45:52
would you buy a kalashnikov car okay so with what i know about
45:57
their most famous rifle not necessarily their other productions but their famous
46:02
rifle yeah because the idea is that it just always
46:06
works so it does that i don't know if that
46:09
goes into their other forms of engineering in a lot of ways electric
46:12
vehicles are less complex than an internal combustion engine even though
46:16
they're actually it's funny i was about to say they're newer tech they're not um
46:20
electric cars actually came first if you go back far enough they're really old
46:24
but um the the modern electric cars are definitely newer tech than the very
46:29
refined internal combustion engines that we have today but in a lot of ways
46:32
they're a lot simpler so it shouldn't be that big of a surprise that we're seeing like almost
46:38
an like a land grab like gold rush style
46:42
um i don't know what would you call it like
46:46
a renaissance like a yeah well like you're seeing a lot of brands pop out of
46:50
the woodwork with electric cars electric motorcycles just complete nobodies
46:54
mostly most of the traditional car companies are stepping in as well but there is a lot of random new companies
46:59
stepping up and making electric cars yep i mean even that bike that i want to go
47:03
down and test drive which i will be doing
47:06
i have a trip to san fran confirmed so i will be doing that did i talk about that
47:10
on my show last week igor cameron cozyrev says
47:13
bsbs fully spelt out you naive canadians
47:17
don't understand anything in russia is proposed for corruption not for making
47:23
final product
47:27
that sounds a little aggressive so
47:31
nothing in russia will be produced i'm also starting to question his username
47:37
because he's like it sounds like he's trashing russia but he sounds like he
47:41
has a super russian username so he might actually be like playing that angle he
47:45
says you won't get one yeah i don't actually expect kalashnikov to
47:48
necessarily make a push into the u.s yeah but that doesn't mean that no one
47:51
will ever own one we'll see if they make them
47:55
uh all right this is huge news this week
47:58
this was posted by pip nina on the forum and it is the steam compatibility tool
48:03
so the original article here is actually steam the steam community
48:08
boop steam for Linux introducing a new version of steam play so it looks like
48:14
they have not given up on gaming for Linux even though steamos kind of
48:19
died on the vine right they've released a beta that's probably fine of a new and improved
48:23
version of steam play to all Linux users it includes a modified distribution of
48:28
wine called proton so wine is wine is not an emulator it's way to play Windows
48:32
games on steam called proton to provide compatibility
48:35
with Windows game titles here are some of the improvements it brings to the
48:38
table Windows games with no Linux version currently available can now be installed
48:43
and run directly from the Linux steam client complete with native steamworks
48:46
and open vr support wow directx 11 and 12 implementations are
48:50
now based on vulkan resulting in improved game compatibility and reduced
48:54
performance impact full screen support has been improved full springs full
48:58
screen games will be seamlessly stretched to the desired display without
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interfering with the native monitor resolution or requiring the use of a virtual desktop improved game controller
49:06
support they will automatically recognize all controllers supported by
49:09
steam that's very cool and expect more out of the box controller compatibility
49:13
than even the original version of the game performance from multi-threaded
49:17
games has been greatly improved compared to vanilla wine wow good so the initial
49:22
set of supported games with the beta release is the second one is the most
49:26
important beat saber bedual two deluxe doki doki literature club doom doom 2
49:30
hell on earth doom vfr fallout shelter fate final fantasy vi
49:34
really oh wow i am gonna go get that and play it on
49:38
Linux just for lulls geometry dash google earth vr into the
49:42
breach magic the gathering a bunch of other magic the gathering mountain blade mountain blade with fire and sword near
49:46
payday quake soccer shadow chernobyl star wars battlefront 2 tekken 7 the
49:50
last remnant tropico 4 ultimate doom warhammer 4000 dawn of war dark crusade
49:54
some other warhammer thing and users are also able to try playing
49:58
non-white listed games using an override switch in the steam client and
50:01
apparently a ton of stuff is working going forward users can vote on their
50:05
favorite games to be considered for steam play using platform wish listing
50:09
and presumably they will like work on that
50:12
wow very cool very very very cool proton contains a custom version of wine as
50:17
well as additional libraries developed alongside it is fully open source and
50:20
available right now on github this
50:23
could change everything especially if they keep progressing
50:26
especially if they like actually stick with it mind you valve has shown
50:30
considerable resilience when it comes to
50:33
decoupling themselves from microsoft and Windows even if the particular projects
50:38
that they've worked on have not necessarily developed much like i don't think
50:43
they've done anything with um steam link since the original one yeah
50:48
not that i'm aware of anyway but i think like when you look at steam link steam
50:51
controller and the
50:55
steam os steam box kind of deal that situation none of that really was enough
51:00
to pull people away i guess um
51:03
so maybe this will be i definitely know some people i i don't know anyone who's
51:08
going to switch to Linux because of this uh but i definitely know some people
51:12
that were already using Linux and already trying to game on Linux that are
51:16
super excited because of it if that makes sense
51:20
what's going on this was an actual topic in the dock
51:23
yeah i had no idea this was a topic yeah
51:26
who should Linus fight on p i thought we were just like
51:29
around no
51:33
the biggest event in internet history i have focus pads
51:37
if this becomes a thing we can train oh wow uh i know i know like the basics
51:42
of boxing training now because i've i've started i'm not
51:47
fighting austin that's no i don't think you should fight awesome but if you do fight someone
51:54
i just think austin's too nice you don't think i'm too nice wow
51:59
wow wow dick you don't think i'm too nice to
52:02
punch someone have you ever seen me look like i was close to punching someone
52:07
no but i think you could
52:11
actually yes i think i have when
52:14
on the couch at my parents house
52:18
what happened there scrapyard wars season four
52:22
what happened in scotland what was season four remember okay the power went out that
52:26
day we had to move the entire operation for the end of season four scrapyard wars
52:30
was my parents house because they still had power yeah um and then we had to film skype wars
52:36
and a channel super fund there and
52:40
uh because of we had a room arrangement
52:43
planned here and because we couldn't do it here we had to sit in the family room
52:47
of my parents house while everyone else was in the garage and they had to film
52:51
it on their cell phones and hangouts to us
52:54
and basically everyone was like doing oh i was mad but i couldn't have punched
52:59
anyone no one though but i think you could have punched
53:02
someone i could have punched something but not someone i was mad enough to
53:06
punch something but you definitely wouldn't have hit
53:09
anyone that was there no no no no those are my friends i would i would never
53:13
punch a friend like that couldn't be a thing it's also like illegal but so i
53:16
don't think you'd be stupid enough to just hit random people yeah but if you're in like a ring and it's measured
53:21
i think you could hit someone
53:24
all right well on that note my battery is dead on my laptop so uh luanne show's
53:29
over thanks for watching guys uh see you again next week same bat time same bat
53:33
to channel bye oh what the crowd
53:48
yeah the file says i imagine Linus and austin fighting like
53:52
mandark and dexter in dexter's lab where they like kind of slap each other with
53:56
their gloved hands