Net Neutrality Must Survive. - Wan Show Nov. 24 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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14,293 words · ~71 min read
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that was like one of the sleepiest intros we've had you know
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welcome to the nighttime podcast i haven't even gotten that much done this
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week like uh here let me let me have a look
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we we use uh we use trello now which is actually pretty cool i actually really
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like it um so we used trello to track all of our tasks and and everything
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trello is pretty cool and so this week i actually only got like
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five five videos shot of which i scripted none of them
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so like on paper i got not a whole lot done
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this week but uh big meetings i had to have a lot
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of meetings and there is something about meetings that just makes you just
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just hate yourself at the end of the day
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and then hate yourself some more at the end of the week and then just when
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you're done hating yourself you hate your life and
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yeah meetings suck so and you never know like okay did we did we cover enough
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stuff and then if you do cover a new stuff the new question is did we cover too many things and waste time
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yeah it's like ugh so i mean yeah i got everything that i
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needed to do and like honestly the stuff that we did this week was pretty cool so
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we finally covered the porsche design laptop um the ev tablet that surface
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competitor that's like a few hundred dollars cheaper okay and
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great build quality great specs um comes
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with the keyboard cover and a stylus
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um so we got a review done at that time that doesn't happen anymore dell sent us
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over what has to be the most badass projector that i've
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yet seen oh um and you're into projectors HDR
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it's laser it's 5 000 lumens wow and
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it's 4 500 bucks which is a lot of money
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yeah it is go buy a 100 inch HDR
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4k tv yeah they get quite expensive yeah that's
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once you get up there 5 000 lumens like
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obviously it's not gonna work in a bright room with the sun coming in the
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way that a tv might yeah but in a
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dim room but with the blinds up as the
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sun was probably going to set in about half an hour
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it was super usable like very usable
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even with some of the lights on in the room so i was super so if you live up
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here it'll just always work great because we don't have sun anymore well
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not this time of year yeah and then uh john did a smart christmas lights
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roundup okay i heard about this yes how was that john was like super into this
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like two months ago he was like hey so
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i think honestly i don't think he's bringing any of that stuff back i don't
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i think he's just keeping it because i think his ulterior motive is that he's
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just into decoration in a way that i don't think most of the other people
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here really are and yeah yep and and he's into like
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celebrating festivities yeah yeah like his tree was up and it was badass when i
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went over there and definitely the festive spirit yeah so so i think he
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just had an ulterior motive that was he wanted cool smart christmas lights and
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he figured hey oh i know that was part of it if i make a video about this then
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i'll just keep them yeah so we made that video
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how is it though like how was it um most of them are terrible as you'd expect
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yeah so he didn't get a lot of great lights out of it but he did get a couple
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of those phillips hue goes which he really liked yeah i
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was gonna ask like did phillips make a set because their stuff seems to be
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pretty good yeah so phillips was the only one that had an app that wasn't
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total ass but it's not like proper christmas lights i'm assuming no no it's
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just phillips hue but like green and red which is a thing
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that philips hue does yes uh the last one was uh we're doing our test build on
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air cooling in the Corsair concept slate
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the largest case oh that not ever but
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certainly the largest yeah that thing is certainly the largest case from a a
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mainstream case manufacturer like mountain mods has done stuff like an
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ascension duality is gonna be bigger how big is it
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compared to that huge fantastic case ah
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you know what i don't know the phanteks ones one um k-slabs has definitely done
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something bigger the tx 10v or something like that like
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ginormous like dual atx yeah yeah like
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just just redonkulous things this you know from like a normal case
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manufacturer like your Corsair your thermaltake your antac all those guys
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this is the biggest that i've seen it's like curved tempered glass and like wow
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i know like i know with with cases like this it's not about selling a whole bunch of
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them but i wonder how many they
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really think they're going to sell and i don't mean really in like a derogatory
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way like i wonder like when they're like okay let's make this case yeah like forecasting you have to do forecasting
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but like what is the number they decide probably not but like i wonder yeah i
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actually don't think they care it's just to show off i think this one is just
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okay you can't tool a case for less than a half a million dollars yeah i'll tell
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you that much this one was a lot more than that
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and curved tempered alone i'm sure is like
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not fun they're not going to sell a ton of them because if i had to guess and
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i'd be completely guessing i have no information if i had to guess i'd say
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the Corsair concept slate is probably going to cost
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500 to 650 us dollars
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um so like this is not this is not gonna
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put my hand up to guess and was like five okay yeah yeah so i think we're on the
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same page there yeah and i was thinking that or higher so that that works i'm
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just gonna i'm just gonna thanks to Corsair and synergy for sponsoring our
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coverage of computex 20.
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in the video description all right guys so we're here in the Corsair suite where
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they have i would love to say one of them
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oh my god
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right down here at the bottom and they've even got a bunch of hard line 2
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million and hopefully hopefully it will do a
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great job like is it is it just like a crazy build
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or is there like a specific point it's like the streaming the powerful one is
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the workstation okay so for four quadros
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yeah um you know 128 gigs of RAM
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18 core processor oh like basically
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the finest the absolute best okay um and then the
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gaming machine is a capable gaming machine that's like
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hiding in there um so it's a 7700k with a 1080 ti okay and 32 gigs of RAM so
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while your thing is rendering on your multiple quadros you can still game it
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absolute full capacity yeah you can get one of uh so uh wendell over at level
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one tx is releasing his kvms
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i believe they're actually available on the store right now but he's got two
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different models and they're displayport kvms
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so we've actually got one of them in i've been waiting for boxing yeah so um like he's making
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yeah this product that already existed but he basically made firmware for it
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that isn't trash that's cool so right up until now a
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displayport kvm has been pretty hard to come by especially one that isn't total
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guard yeah okay that that asterisk on the end is super important so it's
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displayport 1.2 it passes through freesync as far as i
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know and he's even gotten it working passing through g-sync
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the tall boy model is 550 dollars
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but it is a dual monitor kvm
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okay so you would actually be able to
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run this in fact that's what we should probably do Jake in the uh in the
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showcase like show off video for this one is we should have two monitors and
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then you can actually switch between your two systems like that and it does
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audio oh yeah it's like totally badass it's usb 3. it's like it's like crazy
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crazy amazing what's the okay so so the tallboy model is the dual monitor one
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yeah that's the main difference and then the four there's the quad port single
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monitor one so you can switch between four different systems uh that one's
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like 330 bucks or something like that yeah so you've got you're looking at 396
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for the single monitor that much okay and
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660 for okay so i've had the pricing
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totally wrong um so yeah maybe that's us
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dollars by the way i mean they look sick yeah
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and you know for for a high uh plug count
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kvm that's actually not
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unreasonable there's some there's some that you can get at quite a bit cheaper but not
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not anywhere close to that feature set yeah i mean you can spend you can spend
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that kind of money on vga kvm still depending on the features yeah so
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people are asking for a link i'll drop one in chat yeah all right thanks
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all right why don't we oh why don't we roll the intro crap um well we have good
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topics trust me
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uh
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hey if you're logged into twitch is there an easy way to get me an
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authentication thing because otherwise i have to go on to the thing and i have to
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do the whole thing oh all right
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yeah okay yeah all right never mind okay that's fine i'll deal with it um
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all right well if i whispered and did had gestures while we're live on stream yeah how's it
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going sup what do you what is
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for what for this yeah you don't need that i don't need that no well how do i do it
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are you sure i'm pretty sure are you are you not logged in no try to log in this is a new
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laptop okay try to log in i already did
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what what oh wait
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uh okay hold on i got this
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uh okay cool uh okay you know what we'll get
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back to you on that actually we won't at all so don't worry about it
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okay so the imac pro
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this was originally posted by red round two
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um i'm posting the link in the twitch chat now the original article is from
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nine to five mac and uh apparently it's gonna feature an
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a10 fusion processor inside
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so oh wow that's weird what is the oh hold on
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that was close can i kind of has can it has i mean it would have just shown my
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topic so i'm actually working on my oh yeah it does good cool i'm working on my
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review of the new blade stealth this is the quad core model
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okay so i'm super less stoked on this thing so far actually wow you didn't
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just include it in your other blade review no wow why would i do that wow what just
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milking videos what are you talking about wow you're drunk way to go you're
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drunk they're both blades you should include in the same video i shouldn't
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have to watch two different videos with plates and you know what
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i can't be milking it because it's obviously going to get demonetized
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because it has the word blade in it so wait did that happen no well okay yes
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but not we got it back oh okay yeah that was like six years ago uh back when i
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did an unboxing of the original razer
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blade i had some um i had some keywords in the
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description about razer's switchblade interface which at the time i said i
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didn't think made a ton of sense and uh it got it got butt canned so fast um you
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remember that thing right with the displays behind the programmable buttons
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yeah yeah it was just so expensive and
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nobody cared it was pretty bad
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it also was buggy yeah um anyway so it got demonetized and i had to appeal it i
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filmed that video yeah that makes sense yeah yep yep so that was a long time ago
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i remember it and neither of us edited it because we didn't edit videos
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okay so the imac pro to feature a10 fusion
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co-processor processor possibly for always on hey siri
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you know okay so i've got a couple things to say here number one is that i
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was super confused when i read the headline for this and i was like oh
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an a10 fusion coprocessor and i was like
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oh that's weird why would it why would they put an apu in there yeah that's
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exactly what i thought too because i went because AMD
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has their lineup of a10 apus and then
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fusion was what AMD was calling what they were
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going to call their CPU GPU hybrid
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products that just ended up being apu's but there was
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really nothing uh hybrid about them they were just
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cpus with onboard graphics um
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anyway fusion was the branding that they were going to use for that and i was like oh
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yeah a10 fusion and because i don't follow um apple as closely as i follow
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pc stuff like yes you know a11 bionic a10 fusion
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i'm sure that lots of apple people would have gone it makes complete sense oh an
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a10 fusion like the you know iphone 7
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but i didn't and i'm dumb and you can all have a nice little laugh at me and
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uh anyway so point number one is i got confused
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haha and point number two is that i think this is great
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yeah i mean sure it's gonna handle smaller more
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different tasks like hosting hey siri always on so you would just be able to
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say hey siri to your computer yep which would be
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cool i guess if you're into that first there's so many mics in our houses now
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it's kind of ridiculous but you know whatever not in mine but you're
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already being monitored by wow oh yeah i mean phone yes yeah phone yes yeah hey
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siri no yeah well you probably have one on you no i do not have an iphone on me
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right now you usually do that i usually do it was a good one is that a smart
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watch uh yes yeah i don't know if it has a mic but a
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lot of them do actually and you swap it quite often that's true a lot of mics
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this is a pro track it's actually kind of cool we did like a sponsored spot for
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it but i i'm not being paid to wear it right now um i like it it's it's got two
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screens so this is a dumb screen oh is it an over 2 k yeah yeah remember
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when these first came out and we were both talking about how this is how they
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would have to do it yeah yeah it's so cool because when it dies
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it lasts for like another month and a half yeah yeah yeah and it's just a
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watch and like honestly tons of sense i get so many notifications that it's
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impractical to manage them from my wrist anyway so
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i i've i've but i got back in the habit of wearing a watch well yeah so i'm like
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i'm wearing a watch now basically and that's cool because like i don't know if
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it is charged sweet you get some notifications on your wrist if it's not charged whatever yeah like i can tell
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someone's calling me when i leave my phone at mine it's not a useless thing
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strapped to your wrist right which is cool i like it right yeah so i'm i'm
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pretty into it um but anyway i'm i'm glad they're doing this either way
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because this has been a thing that has confused me for a number of years
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why is it that there is anything
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that this can do that my laptop and my desktop can't
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that's so stupid yeah so
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i mean to add to that list why does my laptop not have gps
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it would be great for and i know they can tell where your laptop is we have a
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great Techquickie coming on how they know where your laptop can do that
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pretty well it can do that really well which is swell but that won't
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necessarily help with uh like a find my laptop feature for example
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right as it is those all refer prefer those all rely on the same wi-fi
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positioning that your uh google maps would for example but this co-processor
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isn't going to give your number i'm just i'm just adding to my list of
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things that every device should just support and for
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some reason they do right but every device isn't gonna have a sim card okay
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well okay there's another great question why the actual hell
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does every device not have somewhere that i can pop a sim card yeah it
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probably should especially because and it should be more standard for
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um phone companies to just like i don't know charge you five bucks for the sim
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but not charge you anything on top of that monthly right the monthly fee
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shouldn't go up uh you should pay for the hardware because you have to ship it
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or whatever like i just don't get it yeah how how is this how is this not obvious
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yeah it would be really sick if i could have a sim in my laptop my phone my
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switch yeah like everything and it all just pulls from my one pool of available
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i haven't i have like other stuff on my list i can't uh
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i can't remember for the life of me right now what uh yeah i mean okay
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biometrics took forever and are still taking forever on
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laptops and desktops uh whereas they've been standard on mobile devices for
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about three years now yeah like Windows hello is the thing yeah but that's very
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recent and not standard not standard at all yeah um so yeah there's just like
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there's a bunch of stuff like that that i just look at i'm kind of going well why
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why can phones do this and for some reason we aren't building
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this functionality into other devices drives me crazy uh the lg gram gen 3.
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um that just rolled in okay and it's got
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this janktastic fingerprint scanner on
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the top left of the trackpad that is not touch sensitive
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so you can just like run over it and like your touchpad doesn't work there
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and i'm sitting here going like we've had we've had touch we've had touch id
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slash fingerprint scanners built into everything from side buttons to back
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buttons to front buttons to to frickin
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why they don't even cost much you look at
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the you look at the tear downs for these phones okay and to be clear i don't
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think it's as simple as if the bomb cost for a phone like the iphone 10 is
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rumored to be what 330 340 370 whatever
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it is it's somewhere in the 250 to 350 range something like that and to be
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clear i'm not saying oh well then it should be 4.99 because unlike some
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people i do understand that there's a lot of costs associated with bringing a
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product to market including like really including the long-term
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support of said products something that apple does generally pretty well and like literally
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zero dollar inclusion cost for all of the operating system and software yes
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okay so
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you know i'm also not saying they're not making enough money like they're clearly
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clearly making a lot of money but my point is that when you look at these
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tear downs the kinds of parts that i'm complaining
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about i'm not even asking necessarily
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for a um for a cellular radio to be built into the device i'm asking why
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the actual crap we didn't have a standard created five to eight years ago
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where every motherboard just has a spot where you can plug it in why don't we
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have a couple like we're talking little tiny copper wires for antennas
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to have a way to add this functionality very easily be built into the screen and
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it does exist it's just something that's really not very common and another and
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it actually used to be more common another example is something like it did
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too back when like express cards were a thing um
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and clearly it went away because there wasn't a ton of demand for it but cell
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phone plans used to be exorbitantly expensive yeah and and to be able to
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have something like data was like unheard of like yeah it was it was
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almost non-existent and someone in the chat has actually brought up i lost the
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comment now i'm sorry uh but they said family plan sim grouping
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i've heard that it's way more common in the states and it's starting to
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definitely be a thing in canada but it's still not like a default thing no and
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and to be and like it's pretty clutchy the plans even if they exist and you can
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get them for businesses as well the plans even if they exist don't have
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device support so it's like i can't just pop a sim in my blade stealth which i
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should be able to yeah so my point then is that on a thousand dollar device or a
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fourteen hundred dollar device i think this one's a 512 gig and this is about a 1600 device i think they could have
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absorbed a slot for a sim card i think
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they could have absorbed um a fingerprint scanner that isn't trash and
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that sits under a touch sensitive surface like a track pad and you know
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what i think they probably also could have absorbed you look at how much the
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camera sensors cost
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for even a rear camera on us on a cell phone yeah it is a trivial amount why is
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every webcam not as good as like the oneplus 5t's rear camera
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why and like what's the excuse laptop
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cameras are actually like disgustingly bad and laptop mics
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oh they could be a lot better man
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so yeah i guess that's it i'm i was mad now
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i've got it out of my system i'll get mad about it again at some point but i'm
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over it for now yeah um what else do we have for topics today
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uh okay yeah why don't we do this before
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the sponsors oh boy Intel finds critical holes in the secret
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brutal management engine so this was posted by cubes the gamer on the forum
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i'm going to pull up the original article from the register and i think luke's probably better
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qualified to go through well this is some this is some pretty ridiculous
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stuff why this is a big deal well it's fairly self-explanatory uh
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there's there's firmware level blog bugs that allow logged in administrators or
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some other people you can access it over the network which is
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extremely scary yeah logged in administrators and high
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privilege processes so programs doesn't
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have to be a user to run code beneath the operating system to spy on or meddle
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with the computer completely out of sight of other users or admins now that's not the only scary part because
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it's going on to the processor you can access things that are in memory
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so you can like screw with other programs and you can take things from
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other programs so meanwhile hold on can i jump in and ask a question oh dude i'm
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gonna ask a dumb question okay now typically
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something like a password
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in a perfect world in a perfectly coded
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website and or piece of software it has to be moved around but at some point
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sometimes it would stay encrypted theoretically end to end but in practice
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there is sometimes while it's being moved around where it
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might not be encrypted for a jump got it it should be encrypted the whole
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time so if something has access to memory it can
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grab stuff that would otherwise be impossible
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i think so and what could be really bad about that is you could change something
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right so while a program's running you could change something that's in memory
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crashing it in a really special way or
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like altering something right so it's an exploit that
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opens up the potential for many other exploits yeah i have obviously never
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screwed with something like this before but it's it's pretty brutal um
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here we go dude there direct quote the flaws could allow
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an attacker to impersonate the m-e-s-p-s or txe mechanisms that's referring to
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management engine service platform services or trusted execution engine
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which is a great name right now um thereby invalidating local security
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features like what you were just talking about load and execute arbitrary code
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outside of the visibility of the user and the operating system this is where
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some of the special kind of site from your antivirus
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get owned so you can crash affected systems extremely easily this way
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brutal the things affected are six generations seventh generation and
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eighth generation Intel core processors Intel xeon e3 1200 v5 and v6
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processors Intel xeon scalable processors Intel xeon w processors Intel
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atom c3000 processors apollo lake Intel
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atom e3900 series processors apollo lake
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Intel pentiums celeron n and celeron j
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series and ryzen 7. no i'm just kidding it's all Intel
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oh boy the holes can also be exploited by network administrators this was the part
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that uh i really didn't like the rest of them
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are pretty brutal the fact that there can be an attack vector it's all proof
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that uh i mean it's all brutal we're talking like we're
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talking like aids birthday cake like does it really matter what slice you
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take
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the the problem that i have with this is it's it's it's quite easy to social
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engineer your way onto someone's wi-fi right
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it's it's like it's it's been proved so many times that in so many different
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situations you can get onto someone's wi-fi pretty easily whether you overhear
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someone asking for a password or if you just oh man i really need to do whatever
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oftentimes people will let you on the wi-fi and then getting up to administrator
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access usually not the hardest thing once you're already on the network
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anyways exploited by network administrators or people masquerading as
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admins like i just said to remotely infect machines with spyware and
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invisible root kits
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oh god wow it's not it's not good it's really bad
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um okay
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yeah if you're asking for the link i'll drop the link yeah so far um
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so far i don't think Intel has a plan
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to deal with this it's a firmware level thing so yeah
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so at the best case scenario
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the best case scenario is they might be able to patch this
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via a BIOS update which is a terrible
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solution because understand this too this is fun not every BIOS update
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updates me yeah okay and in fact um i ran into an
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issue a little while back where i forget what exactly the problem was i
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oh man there's this thing with i think it's ASUS
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not ASUS it's it's i think it's with z170
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boards i think it's that generation can't remember exactly anyway the point
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is that you have to do like some kind of
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CPU juggling in order to first flash so
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you have to go back to like an old CPU to flash the me i think you actually have
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to do something in os then you have to pop that then you have to put in a new
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one you have to flash the BIOS with that then you have to like put in the old one
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like it's it's some stupid juggling act i uh i wish i could remember but i
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wasted like three hours of my time um a while back do you remember
27:57
87 to 97 is that right z87 z9 no it's all of them ASUS just has
28:01
it documented so you know what to do um anyway
28:05
the point is i believe the issue there was that me couldn't be updated while
28:10
you had the one CPU but it could for the other the point is
28:14
best case scenario they can update this
28:17
with a BIOS flash but that relies on a number of things it relies on the
28:23
uh manufacturer of the actual motherboard to do something with okay it
28:28
relies on Intel to provide a fix it relies on the manufacturer to do
28:32
something with that fix it relies on the manufacturer to communicate to the end
28:37
user that they need to apply that fix it relies on the end user being able to
28:42
run a BIOS update to be able to run a BIOS update that's that's like the worst
28:46
i mean we're talking stuff going back to 6th gen i mean there's there's stuff for
28:50
i mean especially when you oh man you start getting into like oem systems like
28:54
dells and hps there are systems that are not that
28:58
simple to run a BIOS update on like when you consider that the average user
29:04
is intimidated by pressing delete and being presented with all these scary
29:08
options some someone in the chat sorry someone in the chat brought up like
29:12
processes can edit memory for other processes yeah i know that's already a
29:16
thing but this is undetectable by the operating system
29:20
which is like the reason why it's scheduled to do it without permission and and and it like it's it's that's a
29:25
whole another level um and and you can screw with things without
29:30
being caught and a lot of things are going to be caught by Windows
29:34
um okay so i'm not done yet
29:38
it relies on the end user to be arsed to go and deal with it because for someone
29:43
who doesn't know how to update a BIOS there's probably let's say
29:46
conservatively an hour of their life that they have to set aside to learn
29:50
about this issue figure out how to do it and actually do it
29:54
there's gonna be i mean there's gonna okay okay i know that it's uh that it's
29:58
unlikely but any machines that uh you
30:02
know experience a power loss during this update well they're gonna be bricked um
30:06
they're going to need to be replaced so there's going to be a service cost associated with this like
30:12
this is terrible i'd love to hear wendell talk about this
30:17
and we brought wendell up on this stream
30:21
oh i just thought about him that would be cool so
30:24
this this to me seems really bad mainly because you're going below os level so
30:28
you can do essentially whatever the hell you want that's the scary thing for me
30:32
you can screw with other programs you can make it look like other programs are doing the thing that you're doing
30:37
um that's the stuff that's freaking me out but i really wonder what someone like
30:42
wendell thinks yeah and i'm just sitting here looking at the business side of thing going
30:46
things going this will not get fixed yeah like that that is the truth yeah
30:52
there will be many many millions of pcs out there that will be
30:57
affected by this forever
31:01
pretty much how often people update their BIOS
31:05
in like the people that are watching this yeah and like the people that are
31:08
at this time actually i have a saturday night saturday night calendar reminder i've
31:12
got some wine and some cheese and update my BIOS um like it's it's not that kind
31:18
of i don't know it was like three different ones um it had a little bit of friends
31:23
and then i switched immediately after that um it's not common there i would almost bet
31:30
that probably above 80 motherboards never receive one
31:33
random statistic that i just pulled out of my butt but it's yeah it's probably pretty high
31:38
uh all right so um in other news
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it it's like a cold something cold molded foam whatever the point is that
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it doesn't it doesn't just sink in and then sink in more and then
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was that a good throw yeah okay hold on i got one more coming you ready yep
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right yeah no i mean if that's the mission that makes sense anyway how it
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and it's fast they ship it to you you add water you mix it into a glass or
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there are there are actually a lot of people here at the office that as far as
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i can tell if they stopped eating food altogether
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would still have enough energy to get through the day because they drink so
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much g-fuel talking about you john
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yeah john Colton yeah
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Colton drank so much g-fuel this ed still uh i i'm pretty sure ed still
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drinks it i'm pretty sure yeah but the thing with ed is i'm pretty sure he would drink anything that gives him a
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rush yeah like he gets nothing against g-fuel it's just
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that i don't think he's that picky
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all right that's the best way to get things from Linus is take something else that he has
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reaper peppers they have some pretty i'm gonna do the ghost pepper one they yeah
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i'm gonna i'm gonna take a mojo one first you can't enjoy the mojo after the
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goat exactly yeah so i'm gonna go mojo first and then i'm gonna do ghost pepper
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warm or cold as it were insulating sleeve
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so i don't think it's in the dock but
37:40
yeah the chat is what's up to talk about
37:45
i'll use a light term of aggravated
37:48
because we're not talking about net neutrality yeah ah okay i don't see it
37:52
in the dock no it's not in there um honestly the reason that it's not in
37:56
there um and the reason that we haven't made a
37:59
video is that
38:02
we already made a video um we've already talked about it before
38:09
one um
38:15
i mean the the cynic in me is kind of looking at everybody jumping on this
38:18
bandwagon going like like are you just
38:22
out for views like why do you only care now when it's trendy
38:25
maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm wrong maybe it's not like that but i just posted a
38:29
video on the twitch chat it's more than trendy right now it's like coming up again and well i know that i know that
38:33
the debate is sort of on right now but
38:37
here's the problem so we already did that video that i posted two years
38:41
ago um it's quite good by the way and there's nothing
38:45
that we didn't already say net neutrality is good you should care
38:50
if you don't understand that for whatever reason then
38:54
um we can't yeah basically if we we can't
38:59
do this because we're in canada and it's not an issue up here because
39:02
you know um but if you're in the states you should be
39:06
contacting local representatives there's uh what's the website
39:11
fight for the net or something
39:14
fight see sorry this wasn't a prep topic
39:19
pay for the net battle for the net.com
39:22
um you can go on that's funny because it's battlenet
39:28
uh i'll drop it in the chat there's a contact them button which i'm pretty
39:32
sure if you put in like your your information
39:36
it like helps you reach out to congressman congressman and
39:40
representative representatives and congresswomen and congress
39:44
whatever they identify as yes we didn't assume anything yeah sorry um you know
39:48
we're we're treading on a sensitive topic right now so let's make sure we're yeah yeah let's make sure nobody nobody
39:54
melts um but this website is a good resource for a ton of different stuff if
39:58
you're looking for more information on it reddit is
40:01
so all over this we've got some people upset because i basically said anyone
40:05
who doesn't understand that it's good needs to get themselves re-evaluated i
40:08
think there are better ways to fix the internet than through regulation that's nice but the problem is that
40:15
this regulation exists to fix other regulation
40:19
so unless you want to actually deregulate which nobody's calling for
40:24
well really unless you want to actually deregulate
40:30
um then nothing can be done and if you were to
40:35
actually fully deregulate everything it would create a whole host of other
40:40
problems as well because one of the only reasons that smaller isps and smaller
40:45
telcos can exist is the fact that this copper that was in
40:50
canada i believe it was um so here in bc i'm more familiar with our
40:55
local stuff you'll have to forgive me but this is one of the reasons why we don't talk about it too much it would
40:58
have been bc tell uh back in the day yeah and they were the ones who owned
41:03
all the copper because they were the ones who existed before the freaking
41:06
internet and only certain people are allowed to put down copper because you're using government
41:11
land to put the copper down i mean the last thing that you want is like i've
41:16
been to developing countries where the telephone poles are literally just
41:20
covered in every random wire and people like i saw people
41:24
you know they're not wearing safety vests they don't have a truck with a logo on it they're just like up there
41:28
like running stuff yeah that's actually a problem too that's a huge problem you
41:32
have to regulate this stuff there is no removing all the regulation and the
41:36
regulation that is net neutrality exists
41:40
to counter the other regulation that has
41:43
to exist that creates unfair advantages
41:47
for certain companies that's all there is to it there is no
41:50
debate the only debate is who's getting paid
41:55
there you go so there's people in the chat that are
42:00
like you clearly haven't a clue
42:03
what edgy pie's intentions are
42:06
no we know what's going on we're on your side
42:10
stop it like i don't like honestly we are on
42:15
your side because it actually does matter like even though we're canadian and this doesn't theoretically affect us
42:20
it super does does because so much of
42:23
our infrastructure and the worlds for that matter is reliant on what the
42:27
regulations are for the internet in the united states not to mention that the
42:31
canadian government has a long and um proud history
42:36
of just kind of looking south at what's going on and kind of going okay that
42:39
looks all right apparently that won't happen at least with our current guy
42:42
yeah but you know there's always what happens next who knows who gets elected
42:46
next yeah and staff um so there you go
42:51
you're canadian i'm out later
42:55
later anyway so there that's all i have to say on it
42:59
do you have anything well like okay one of my big things
43:02
a lot of people bring up the idea of like internet fast lanes and like
43:06
when you go to battleforthenet.com there's like a
43:09
fakeo loading icon at the top and stuff
43:13
that's not the only problem um in countries where this isn't a thing
43:18
where they don't have net neutrality set up there's
43:22
there's been some screenshots going around of like i don't remember which country it was but
43:26
the second you try to open a browser it redirects you to a page and it's
43:30
essentially a micro transaction store for being able to access websites
43:34
and you get like a certain amount of data or a certain amount of time on a
43:38
certain website and you have to buy it with like coins that you have for that website
43:45
it's it's beautifully garbage and the issue that comes up with
43:50
this is like i had to scroll down the list for a while to find facebook
43:54
messenger because there's so many websites that
43:57
people use these days that are super mainstream
44:01
including games and all these other kind of things that you don't realize that some of the things that you use might
44:05
fall down below other stuff and someone says tunnelbear yeah that's great except
44:10
that vpn traffic works because the isp lets everything through
44:15
the ips they know that it's vpn traffic they just have to let it through if it's
44:19
now on a whitelist system they'll just block all of that so get owned or slow
44:22
it down or slow it down yeah in some situations though you can block
44:26
it yeah they'll go oh you're encrypted um i don't like it yeah i don't i don't
44:31
know whatever it is i don't care i don't know what the american specific version
44:35
if they'll be able to block websites but like there was an issue up here and i
44:39
don't know what actually happened with it but telus a local isp
44:43
telus decided to block the website
44:46
i can't support you guys anymore if you support pi
44:49
we're not what did we say that sounded like we were not in favor of net
44:53
neutrality i know it's legal in a lot of places but hold off on the reefer for a moment um
44:58
they're like like i i don't know where that came from
45:02
unless you're super stoned um there's
45:06
there's issues with small business right now we are in like amazon's north
45:10
america um i know facebook is huge i know apple is huge i know all these
45:14
other companies are huge we are in amazon's north america and amazon is
45:18
gobbling up small business there's a lot of small business that
45:22
still exists on the web whether that's brick and mortar that do a lot of work
45:25
through the web or advertise through the web or have a website where people can
45:29
see all their stuff whatever all of that is going to get less traffic if it's
45:32
slow and crappy or if you have to pay to access it than other things this will
45:36
extremely damage small business
45:41
yeah there you go
45:45
i'm faking it i don't know what i'm faking
45:49
it's not an orgasm though if i was faking that you'd know
45:52
it would be really convincing all right let's move on to the next topic shall we
45:55
would you not know then well no you'd know that i was doing
46:00
something right yeah even though something was going on uh the original
46:03
article here there's there's i don't i don't like the obscene pitchforking i like i don't
46:08
understand at all how anyone thought that we were defending
46:12
like what are you doing fight with reason guys come on um
46:16
yeah well when you don't have it you gotta you gotta reach for whatever
46:20
weapons in the arsenal i'm happy that you happen to be fighting for the same side that i'm on but like come on use
46:25
you use your brain a little bit um
46:29
okay um okay last thing i'll mention is that some people were pointing out that
46:32
those portugal screenshots were a little bit misrepresentative of what was going
46:36
on and that may be true but it actually changes nothing yeah about any of this
46:40
and i'm not super surprised because the only answer is treating the internet
46:45
like a utility yeah that's the only one
46:49
um okay phone lines are great so bgr teases a potential galaxy x a
46:56
bendable phone wow also one thing that i want to say on
47:01
that topic oh man if if that portugal screenshot thing is i'm eating more of
47:04
this fake don't share it
47:07
fake news stuff is not going to help your argument yeah it doesn't help
47:11
anybody fake it it hurts your argument you're going to get caught you're going to look like an
47:15
idiot um anyways moving forward
47:18
so the galaxy x
47:22
looks nothing like the iphone x so that's cool
47:25
um well we have here in terms of leaks we
47:28
know that it's supposed to be bendable they've been trying to work on this for
47:33
years now bendable displays have been considered kind of like a
47:37
sort of a holy grail futuristic technology yeah bendable
47:41
battery that like yeah this the bendable display we've seen
47:46
at like weird conferences you've seen people doing it for a while the bendable
47:50
battery dress drives that's that's very interesting for me
47:54
so support page went up on samsung's website for an smg 888 and zero
48:00
no information on what it is but that model number has been associated with galaxy x many times in the past
48:06
it already received various certifications from regulators wow
48:09
including the wi-fi alliance and bluetooth sig
48:12
so the rumor is that the device will be so
48:16
complicated to manufacture that it might see a limited launch before samsung is
48:20
able to produce it on mass so this is something samsung's done before just
48:24
doing a limited release in south korea for example
48:27
and then figuring out when if ever to roll it out to the rest
48:31
of the world at a later date i personally think that this is going to
48:35
be a really interesting device because for the first time in
48:41
i don't know the last okay
48:44
you'll have to forgive me if i've missed a bunch in between because there was
48:48
there have been big chunks of time when i haven't really paid much attention to mobile phones but the last time that i
48:53
remember a phone that was really sold based on being a
48:59
fashion statement aside from apple because apple does position their phone
49:03
that way but they do it subtly like they have
49:06
they they try to sell you uh facetime or that you're gonna be do epic kick flips
49:11
or whatever and your friends are gonna record you in slow motion it's gonna be like awesome dude like they it's more of
49:15
like a lifestyle brand whereas the last phone that i remember that was really
49:19
about how cool it looks and how cool you're gonna look when you use it was the
49:22
motorola razor yeah yeah that phone was absolutely about that
49:27
that was what it was all about i don't think anyone actually cared about any
49:30
other part of me no so i mean it was a pain to use
49:34
it was like actually two things i never had one yeah so i i never had one either
49:38
but like i touched one i was like yes this is super dumb um so
49:42
this since then would be
49:46
maybe if not the first the best example
49:49
i've seen because i don't think this thing is going to be powerful i don't think it's going to be powerful
49:53
and i think it's going to have to not be powerful because they're going to have to make compromises on things like
49:56
battery life i don't think the display is necessarily going to be the highest
50:00
resolution because this brand new manufacturing technology we're talking
50:03
about so i think this is going to be the phone that is pure fashion statement and
50:08
it's going to finally happen
50:11
where phones have gotten powerful enough for most people that
50:16
you'll be able to produce something with very mainstream specs and that's what i
50:19
think this will have that
50:22
is just cool and that's kind of that's actually quite
50:26
exciting so i was talking to someone about this i think it's literally last
50:30
night about how phones have gotten to the point where like they're all
50:33
pretty much the same there isn't really a lot going on like
50:38
like the craziest thing that happened was apple released like
50:41
a really weird phone and like they like turned the camera
50:45
thing which was a fashion thing related to razer that you were talking about earlier uh or the the what was it called
50:52
that really thin phone the motorola razer motorola yeah okay i was just
50:55
making sure that i didn't pull that name but um but like it's it's it's mostly a
51:00
fashion phone with like weird face recognition stuff
51:04
and that's not that surprising and samsung going in a similar location is
51:08
is actually with the same name which is hilarious um is is probably good because
51:14
in terms of internals there's not a lot going on they all have the same freaking
51:18
processor they're all running the same freaking stuff it's become boring
51:23
the battle for the inside of the phone
51:27
yeah it's um i've reviewed a lot of phones in the last couple of months and they've all been pretty similar yeah
51:32
so so doing something interesting with the body of the phone
51:36
cool that's awesome that's like exactly what they should have moved into next
51:39
you know what's not awesome this segue into something that's not awesome
51:44
posted by dr mcintosh on the forum the original article is from qzed.com so
51:48
that could have been a good segue except i ruined it you just
51:52
intentionally trashed it
51:55
google admits that they've been collecting Android users locations
51:59
even when location services are disabled oops
52:04
what oopsy daisies
52:08
so they've said that they didn't use the location data
52:13
they collected using this service they never used or stored it and the
52:17
company is now taking steps to end the practice as a quote
52:21
by the end of november Android phones will no longer send cell tower location
52:25
data to google at least as part of this particular service which consumers
52:29
cannot disable so what was going on for a while was even
52:32
if you disabled location services didn't use apps and didn't have a sim card
52:38
Android phones would be gathering your location data based on cell towers and
52:42
transmitting it back to google and it says since the beginning of 2017.
52:48
um so basically at this point like we're
52:51
going to continue talking about this but at this point from from the
52:54
the topic that we haven't talked about yet which is the uber topic where they
52:59
like leaked an obscene amount of user data didn't report it for like a year
53:02
and paid hackers to cover it up to this doesn't look nearly as bad as that no
53:07
well are you sure well okay if we believe google's story
53:12
about this then it's not nearly as bad as that because what they're saying is
53:16
in january this year and and it's only been this year
53:20
and they're saying that it's only been an entire year they're saying that we
53:23
looked into using cell id codes as an additional signal to further improve the
53:27
speed and performance of message delivery we never incorporate it into the network
53:31
sync system so the data was immediately discarded
53:34
okay so like i don't know if i trust that but sure so
53:38
yeah the idea was they were using the addresses of multiple towers to
53:41
triangulate a phone's location something that they apparently weren't doing
53:45
before um basically what i was saying is
53:49
if you want any form of privacy just don't use electronic devices and don't
53:53
know anyone who uses electronic devices yeah or that are connected to anything
53:57
yeah um if they're not connected to anything you could yeah so why don't we get into the
54:02
uber thing yeah oh my god this is actually kind of trash
54:06
uh uber paid hackers to delete stolen data on 57 million people i mean at
54:11
least they at least they paid the ransom um this was posted by blue chinchilla
54:15
eating doritos on the forum and uh the original article here is from
54:20
bloomberg what garbage wall
54:24
is it just me or has did uber not
54:28
um position themselves as like the good guy
54:31
new age company that was gonna like be like better guys than all the taxi
54:36
throw that into the garbage can and then threw gasoline on top of it and then
54:39
threw like tnt on top of it and then threw all that into a furnace and we're
54:43
just like yeah that's basically what uber's done i
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thought okay so there's a lot of people really excited about being able to tip
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through uber i'm not and you want to know why because
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i thought the entire point of this
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i thought the entire point of uber was
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that we were doing away with the things that were wrong with the cab industry
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and that's that you never know how much to pay cabbies are jerks if you are if
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you don't tip them really well i've legitimately had my bags thrown on the
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ground because i didn't tip enough um
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and i thought that they were supposed to pay the drivers adequately
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such that that wasn't going to be an issue anymore and see i didn't think the
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idea was that they were gonna like nickel and dime the drivers to the point
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where then they go oh you know what actually the uh boatloads of money that
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we're making oh you know what we're not going to give those to the driver you
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could you top them up actually you you the passenger
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like yeah yeah why don't you top them up let's go let's do it the way the cabbies
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did it are you kidding me and it drives me kind
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of nuts because i really liked that as well i like not having to deal with that
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but i would have rather paid more natively
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and not had to tip me too because now i'm in this weird situation
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where i i know that they're not getting we don't have uber here so i
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literally only ran into this once since the tip update came out yeah uh so it's
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not cheaper anymore at all no and you still have to take and you have
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to tip and like you legitimately feel like a
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jerk if you don't tip yep because they're not getting paid enough
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which is just like a thing uber drivers are not paid very well
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so what uh
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can you just charge me more so i don't have to do that
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oh like tipping is actually dumb i hate tipping
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uh and you know i want everyone to make the right amount of money and i want to
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pay you more for things that i want to not tip it's the same thing with loot
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boxes like this is a not great opinion i wish games costed more
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really super unpopular opinion tell me more
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i've got i i wish i had popcorn at this yeah but i'll settle because like
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everyone in the chat is currently loading firearms
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sure yeah your price of games haven't gone up in a long time
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yeah i think a snes game was about 50 bucks it's they've been pretty similarly
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priced for a long time and that was 20 wow and there's arguments for the other
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side like you don't even sell freaking physical games anymore so it should
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probably cost less yeah but there's a lot of risk involved with making a game
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yep that's also more expensive to make a game it's also way more expensive
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way more to make a game these days uh indie
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studios are taking huge risk on games and then are not expected to charge more
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than like twenty dollars for a game yeah because uh a lot of indie games are like
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15 25 bucks um i would and to compensate these things
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and you can all say whatever the heck you want you can tell me i'm wrong you
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can tell me no digital distribution is cheaper you tell me no there's more
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gamers now you tell me no there's there's more mainstream gamers
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now meaning that a lot more games are being purchased in general yeah sure say
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whatever you want they're compensating for the fact that they're not increasing
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the price of the game with loot boxes and other weird crappy things like
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cosmetic purchasing now with certain games in my opinion it
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makes sense sure league of legends is free you can buy skins that's great sounds good how
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have fun league of legends and games like that
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that are free games that sell some skins i don't really care about that with
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something like destiny 2 in destiny 2 i paid full price for the
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game i have to pay for every freaking little
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damn dlc thing that they want to release for every single little boss impeach
58:26
luke that they want to keep going and there's the bright engram store
58:32
where you buy randomized loot boxes that
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give you cosmetic items back in the day you would play the game
58:40
to get the freaking cosmetic items and it actually dilutes from the game this
58:44
is something that i don't requesting isn't that what we call it questing yeah
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in in most games that had something like that you would you would go on a quest in wow you would get the new cool item
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you could wear it around town it sounds good
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what this actually hurts is it literally makes it so that there isn't as much to
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do in the game right because like killing the butcher a bunch no the
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butcher is a bad example because he always drops the cleaver but yeah
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whatever someone else who drops a special drop like once every 20 times
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you want to go there and you want to do it with your friends you want to get your friends on to go play it because
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you want that item now you can just buy it that literally takes content out of
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the game essentially because you're not gonna do it as much because you don't
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care because you could just spend two dollars to buy it and that two dollars
59:29
is probably worth your time so you might actually do that cosmetic items and loot
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boxes are cancerous literally they're eating away
59:38
at games and breaking them down and diluting them and making them worse
59:42
current games are worse because of response systems
59:45
if you've ever bought one you're the problem yeah
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there you go loot boxes are essentially tipping i don't like tipping i don't
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like loot boxes i would rather pay more and buy the whole damn thing and be able
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to experience the whole game okay i want to push harder i want to get
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all my friends on i want to fight and push that boss in freaking uh
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what is it called the raid whatever in destiny 2
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i did it once twice one we're already done what what
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we cleared it like the first time i tried it that's ridiculous what happened
60:19
to that there's no like effort that has to go into games anymore not all games i
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know but a lot of them cuphead great game but then there's no ah i don't really
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care about doing it again
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there's no like special ship that i can get from there there's no special
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sparrow that i can get from there
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can i pitch something sure okay
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one of the problems and i understand you're all gonna hate me it's okay they
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don't actually oh one of the problems that dlc solves
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or that some kind of ongoing payment system solves
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is the
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nature of being a game developer
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where not every game can be counter-strike
61:04
and still be selling literally 20 years after it first comes
61:08
out and that is a huge issue something very unpopular that i'd probably be better off just not saying at all
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um so yeah what happened was i accidentally
61:17
bumped the machine which seems to be causing it to blue screen right now for some reason so it probably just needs to
61:21
like take apart reseed everything put it back together uh anyway
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so i was hanging around with the monolith guys
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yeah a couple weeks ago yeah and what was interesting about their studio
61:35
was that i was hanging around in a game studio
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for a game that for our game studio that
61:42
just released a game like
61:46
a two-year effort game just launched
61:49
and there were still lots of people still employed
61:54
still with jobs okay now hold on a second
61:58
now you can think about this from the perspective of the
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uh the individual like the the worker
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okay the the artist or the programmer or
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whatever the case may be um obviously people prefer to have a steady
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flow of income and predictable employment with benefits cetera et
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cetera et cetera and you could kind of go well you know what they knew what
62:22
they were signing up for in the game industry too bad for them
62:26
okay step back for a second that may all be true
62:31
but what about the company one of the biggest challenges as a company is
62:36
attracting talent attracting
62:40
and retaining good talent
62:43
if you want to have a chance in a highly competitive industry like the games
62:48
industry and you can see why this evolution is happening
62:51
you need to be able to offer employment packages to people that might include
62:56
free lunches or super fancy twelve hundred dollar chairs
63:00
or whatever perks it is that elsewhere in the industry companies
63:05
are offering or you are going to end up with no staff the inability to make any
63:11
game let alone a good one and you are going to go out of business
63:15
so effectively what's happening is
63:19
whether you agree or not whether you like it or not the fact that
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this business model works is turning anyone who doesn't adopt it into
63:29
dinosaurs and the problem is not the
63:32
workers if they have the option and if you say that you wouldn't you're
63:36
either a liar or you're a unicorn okay if they have the option to take a job
63:41
that will continue and gives them lots
63:45
of benefits and that they can rely on getting up in
63:48
the morning and going to like you know think about someone like a
63:51
composer you know monolith has a dedicated composer who does the music
63:55
for all their games so what do they j so they release the
63:59
game and it's just like i guess you better go find some other
64:02
music to compose if he has the option to take the job that's sia or the job
64:06
network so he continues because he's still do he's composing music for cut
64:10
scenes and dlcs and all that kind of stuff but i don't think anyone's upset
64:14
with that no what people are upset about is
64:17
is the fact that this this culture of
64:21
microtransactions exists and that it's that it's making it so that
64:26
okay so you're saying they should just charge more for the game in the first place
64:29
but that still wouldn't solve the problem the feast or famine problem
64:33
because no business is going to forecast going
64:36
okay we're going to charge 130 for our game
64:40
and then we're just going to keep everyone on staff and make no money
64:45
for and we'll just pay out of out of our coffers for like the the year until
64:50
we're like getting close to the next release and then it's crunch time and everyone will just kind of work that
64:54
whole time like that's not viable
64:57
i think you could have because i think
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dlc being planned for because this is something that seems to trigger people
65:05
is dlc being planned for before the release and it's planned for before the
65:09
release because that's the way that you avoid feast or
65:12
famine and that's the way that you provide people to study jobs and so some people scream about that yeah oh my god
65:17
you're releasing the game you already have a release date for dlc that's crazy blah blah yeah
65:22
i don't think that is hurting i don't i'm not a huge fan of
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course i would like every single thing in existence to be in the game when i
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buy it right away sure whatever but i don't think that is ultimately that
65:35
terrible what i would prefer they did was have a steady schedule of releases
65:40
so i actually like the concept of what destiny's release idea is which is dlcs
65:46
over time i bought destiny 2 with the amount of stuff that i've done
65:50
within destiny 2 i am happy with my initial purchase of
65:53
destiny 2. i would like more please sir i will buy your next dlc
65:59
raid and i will fight osiris that sounds good that sounds like a good transaction
66:03
thank you very much i knew that was coming i'm happy to pay for it i'm happy
66:06
with my initial purchase i'm sure i will be happy with the osiris dlc i am pissed
66:11
off about the bright engrams that's a separate thing entirely and i wish that i had more to do in the game because i
66:15
wish the bright engrams weren't there i would have been happier to pay more
66:18
for the dlc that's coming up and i would have been happy to pay more for the initial game if the bright engrams were
66:23
not in the game all the content and items that are in the breidagrams were
66:27
in the game and there was mechanical processes to get those things right so
66:31
i'm totally okay with dlc i loved the idea one of my favorite
66:35
things ever was the battle chests for warcraft 3 where you get the game in the
66:39
expansion and if you went at the beginning and you bought the base game
66:43
then frozen throne comes out and you're like oh my god it's so good
66:46
that was awesome it doesn't make as much sense anymore because um while i love
66:52
that model and i would prefer that model it doesn't make as much sense anymore
66:55
it's a very difficult thing to pull off something too that i think we're all forgetting is how pissed off we were
66:59
about that model back when it first showed up with brood war i wasn't okay a
67:03
lot of people but a lot of people were a lot of people were pissed off that all of a sudden they had a copy of a game
67:08
starcraft that wasn't compatible with in multiplayer with all their friends
67:12
and it was the same okay that's that's pretty poo but a lot of a lot of studios
67:15
have fixed that you can have the new the multiplayer is on its own layer and then
67:19
single player is on his own layer um i i do agree with that there's been trash at
67:23
every stage and we've been mad every time yeah
67:26
i think this is a new tier of trash in my opinion probably um i think probably
67:31
getting old loot well yeah that's true and i've thought about that too though
67:35
but this is the first time that it's reduced the content that there is in a
67:39
game right okay that is directly there is
67:42
actionable reasons why these cosmetic
67:45
items because there's there's no way you're going to look at a game like destiny 2 that is extremely about what
67:50
your character looks like and go there really isn't that many cosmetic
67:56
options when you make destiny 2 you would have
67:59
made that game with a lot of cosmetic quests and weird things
68:03
maybe an option for this thing that's kind of tedious and annoying and most
68:07
people aren't going to do it but then this one dude is gonna go know what this is gonna be my thing i'm gonna have the
68:11
watermelon colored armor that requires you to kill these one dudes a whole
68:16
bunch for whatever reason and no one else is gonna do it and everyone will look at me and think that i'm cool
68:19
because i did it that's content
68:23
that that's being able to show up when you're in your buddy's fire team and he
68:26
goes oh wow cool you got that thing you got the hand of ragnaros you killed rags
68:31
so many times that you got the hand of ragnaros that's amazing
68:36
that's super cool it does no damage but it looks cool
68:41
not directly lining up but like there's there's there's there's no no i know my point is just
68:46
like so sometimes you go and you get a unique item just for the sake of having
68:49
it not because it's yeah yeah like like the idea of transmogs i was talking
68:53
about this the other day the idea of transmogs drives me crazy too transmog
68:56
is the idea of being able to take an item and make it look like another item oh okay that in my opinion dilutes the
69:03
idea of the original item yeah and
69:08
makes it easier for people to digest the
69:12
idea of just paying money to look cool
69:15
instead of playing the game to look cool i think transmog is like the gateway
69:18
drug of just paying money for something
69:21
to look cool because you can just make things look like whatever you want and
69:25
the game becomes less about actually working and getting the cool things
69:32
yeah i don't know
69:35
so there's there's situations in games like destiny 2 and lots of other games
69:39
where you can look at something like the raid or look at something like another
69:43
piece of content and go there should be more here
69:47
there should be another objective there should be a side thing there should be
69:50
whatever so that i can get this other item that should be in this game and
69:54
probably is just hidden behind a paid box and it sucks when that objective
69:59
that goal that mission that quest that whatever is no longer in the game
70:03
because someone probably thought about it it might have even been there on a
70:08
certain build of the game and then someone else went
70:11
ah that's a cosmetic item we can probably get away with putting that in a
70:15
loot box that makes me sad elon musk won a bet
70:20
yeah original article from rs technica
70:24
he said he would finish the world's largest battery installation in 100 days
70:27
or it was free it has 100 megawatts capacity a world
70:32
record and they finished it on time
70:36
uh 120 sorry 100 megawatt 129 megawatt
70:40
hour battery installation so huge capacity and huge power delivery
70:44
capability and uh it's the largest megawatt rating for any
70:48
grid connected battery installation in the world and uh
70:52
one of the snarky asides in the article is that this may be the first time that
70:56
elon musk has ever delivered anything on time let alone early so you have to make
71:00
him bet that's that's what we figured out because apparently musk said it
71:04
would have cost tesla 50 million or more if the company failed to meet the
71:08
deadline so i guess he was like all right sure let's do it
71:12
that's pretty cool oh my gosh pokemon go creator raises 200 million dollars ahead
71:17
of a harry potter game launch you're gonna play it
71:20
don't sigh
71:24
don't even like don't even pretend to
71:28
to be like oh those silly people who are gonna play
71:32
harry potter again shut up
71:37
i to be fair i did drop off of pokemon go pretty quick yeah but that's not what
71:41
i said i said you're going to play this
71:46
yeah probably the biggest thing the biggest thing that
71:50
annoys me about yeah niantic niantic
71:53
whatever whatever you want to call them is that everything seems so half-assed
71:57
like i i used to play um what was it called ingress yeah yeah i
72:02
used to play ingress a lot back when like not that many people played ingress
72:07
i even played ingress when the game hadn't released in south korea i played
72:12
harry potter so the only people playing it were travelers harry potter was cool
72:16
you're like and edsel and i you're a pokemon go hipster
72:19
that's sad edsel and i had control of like most of seoul it was it was pretty
72:24
freaking cool um but i remember even playing that game i
72:28
was like wow this is really you know
72:31
i'm really just clicking the button and tapping it a bunch and nothing else
72:35
really happens it's it's all super randomized there's really not a lot of
72:39
substance to this game really cool concept though so i'm going to keep
72:42
trying hopefully they update it and hopefully it's cool and then pokemon go came out and it was
72:46
like wow they really just skinned the previous game there's really not a lot
72:50
going on here people apparently don't believe we're live because the time on
72:54
the computer is wrong oh
72:58
what is it that's the right time wait what yeah
73:02
they're just drunk a lot of people don't understand that canada is really big
73:08
i get that question all the time what time is it in canada i'm just like oh man
73:14
that's not a thing because you know what you know what not making matters we
73:18
should we should just do it we should have a canada times google is not helping okay
73:22
because if you google what time is it in canada oh my god you actually get see
73:27
this is the problem with eastern canada is they really do think they are the
73:30
only canada yeah um so it's just like
73:34
i'm surprised it's not toronto though um but yeah there's just what time is it so
73:39
that's our capital that's what time it is in our capital in not our capital it
73:43
is literally three hours earlier yeah and then if you go further east it gets
73:47
literally an hour and a half later yes that's right we have four and a half
73:52
times and that is without some island in the
73:56
middle of the pacific america yeah we don't even need that to have four and a
74:01
half time zones okay yeah we're gonna have in the states four i
74:05
think i'm not entirely sure i think eastern is as eastern as it goes
74:09
yeah pacific to eastern all right because we have um what they have called
74:14
does alaska reach out into another one i'm not sure it might yeah
74:19
i think does anyone count alaska i do if you want free shipping on something it's
74:23
lower 48.
74:26
i mean they only count the lower 48 so why am i expected to kill which is
74:30
i know people from alaska that are great people i know people from alaska that
74:33
are going to heal me when classic wow comes out so i have to be nice to them
74:36
lordy all right so thanks guys for watching
74:40
and uh we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel
74:43
what are we gonna do about this we're gonna slice them together somehow oh
74:47
dear i will figure it out
74:51
alaska has its own time zone
74:55
i still don't count it i do no alaska should be part of canada
74:59
i agree we screwed that up pretty bad
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all right
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black friday