AMD VEGA NEWS MEGALOAD - WAN Show July 28, 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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9,156 words · ~45 min read
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and we are live coming to you from Gorgeous Cloverdale British
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Columbia coming to you from slightly rundown Cloverdale British Columbia what
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of Farmland not great Farmland I don't
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even know what they grow here British Columbia and a and a really old
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Columbia oh we have great news this week
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we are we are proud proud Clover Dalian
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we have the best news from Cloverdale this actually I don't live in Cloverdale
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neither do I and I'm not sad me neither no offense no offense to anyone
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from Cloverdale who may be watching because you probably didn't understand
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what we said anyway you have a really great like horse accessory and saddle
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store it's wonderful anyways uh there's tons of Vega news uh like like every
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single other W show from 2017 so that's not too surprising all the Vega leaks
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like like if there was if there was a crossfire leak it would be like Vega
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Bond I think you put them
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together oh my goodness I I think if Vega was a ship it just wouldn't have a
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bottom anymore cuz it sank no cuz the leaks
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there's so many leaks
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oh no only I'm allowed to make jokes that bad sorry no you you don't have you
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don't have a terrible terrible joke privilege that that I that I en I'm try
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I'm trying to graduate I'm working on it um there not so much a graduation as a
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sort of a debasing of
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yourself uh we've got rumors about price
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we've got rumors about performance we've got tons of stuff so stay tuned for that
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rumors about what it looks like we also have the Intel Core series full specs
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have apparently been leaked there's leaks all over is it even leaks anymore
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who knows what's a Core X I don't even know uh flash is going to die in 2020
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unlike all the other times that it's been stated flash is going to die
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hopefully this time it's actually going to die it's like actually super super
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actually dying this time so that's pretty sick uh oh Corsair Corsair got
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got got Yo it got got by investors it
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was bought
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yeah also our former employer NC closed
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it's retail stores in Ontario for good
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for good I don't know if that's good so
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much as it's bad it it's bad intro
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time and no
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no intro yes we need shirts yeah I want a shirt
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that just says no that I can get a shirt that just says
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yes yeah or we could we could throw in like
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shirt no yeah yeah naked yes
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that's the that's the tattoo that you get under it the
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tattoo naked yes my wife would kill
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me we should throw her make a fake every
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single time she would she would like she would
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actually be fear like she's not really a like getting mad kind of person she's
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more of a like disappointed and frustrated person not like a mad like
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yelling person but that would actually be a thing I could do that would be like
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full on like trigger
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mode I could see that fake tattoo yes oh
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fake tattoo in the promotional materials you could have a fake tattoo she doesn't
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watch YouTube so like or rather wow
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YouTube I'm sorry I am like super tired
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today been crazy yeah yeah so like fake
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tattoo you get like a this should be she doesn't watch this should be a channel
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super fun prank yeah because you could say that it was like a promotional thing
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for the shirt and you don't really care cuz you're always going to wear shirts
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anyways yeah oh I like it I like it that
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would be awesome someone says Floatplane yes thank you very much I appreciate so the only problem is that
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we wouldn't be able to do it on Twitch unless I got some uh some tape actually
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uh Alex do you have some electrical tape that I could borrow it seems like the
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kind of thing you would on hand I think it would look really fake no no hold on
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uh the black one the up and right down and right this one yeah that one perfect
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tape me thank you all right so oh wait
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no oh you're going to tape them over so so basically I figure wow wow with the
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um I can't believe this is you're doing that oh my goodness okay okay so so I
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could pull off the shirt and then I could have like the the the the the the
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no nipple shirtless
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right so it' be like shirt no and then
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like woo naked yes and then yeah
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honestly yeah no nipple yes see what is this show even about anymore
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it's about yes and no nobody knows this whole St this whole show uh we used to
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do straw poles yeah now we've evolved into just like it is our language now we
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speak straw pole
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all right so we do actually have a lot of tech news for you guys this week
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think there's like a post on the Forum from that someone someone says Ian yes
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Ivan yes Ivan will be there Ivan yes indeed so there it is LTX Carnival SL
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Meetup apparently the floor plan and stuff is not actually posted here no no
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I know I know I know uh floor plan's not posted here for some reason but may it's
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it you just want everything in one place and then you're like damn I'm in
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Cloverdale there's literally nothing here oh yeah there's the shirt design uh
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so for people who got um the big package
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they're getting one of these shirts I think in a special color or something like that so here we go here we go here
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we go so here's the floor map that we've got finalized dish now uh this is the
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case toss so you throw cases as far as you can this is great have a SE yeah
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and and ball pit and there's going to be so much swag yeah like actually an
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insane amount like actually every single person who attends should walk away with
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multiple pieces of Swag and I'm not talking like everybody's going to get a
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graphics card but there will be graphics card giveaways which like that's a thing
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I think that's super cool cuz I'm I'm kind of a I'm kind of into the whole
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swag thing and packs and all these really big conventions it's been kind of
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going down a little bit because some of the biggest proponents of swag was
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always the hardware guys the hardware guys love the swag yeah it's freaking
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actual show now yes should we just try and get through all the Vega
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news uh sure okay there's a lot a lot a
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lot of it's like not quite a repeat but borderline all right Yong Kang Yong Kang
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posted this on the Forum the original article is from video
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cards.com this is apparently according
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to the video cards leak what the Vega 64
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reference design will look like something like that according to
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the leak I can neither confirm nor deny
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that looks like three DisplayPort ports and an HDMI so DVI is gone
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ones that's not surprising no more DVI no more
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VGA both of those are probably fine I
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don't like not having VGA to be perfect not having VGA is a little annoying but
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like when was the last time you even had it it's been DVI for um so NVIDIA did
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away with it I think on uh Pascal yeah
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yeah so AMD has followed suit um that
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looks like two eight pin connectors which is interesting it does and then
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this is apparently a Vega 64 limited edition limited edition yeah
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okay and then they're saying there will be a liquid Edition and there are no
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pictures yet of that oh interesting okay so there's uh there's the leaks you can
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take those for what they are if the card
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looks like the top one though um I
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actually you know what I'm not going to lie I like the look of this design
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better than I like the look of the limited edition design really yeah so
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this looks like a a brushed kind of thing cuz brushed depending on whether
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it's like metal or plastic can actually end up looking kind of cheap yeah you
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know yeah that's fair I I think if you
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have the right build and it's a limited edition so that might make sense the
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right build accenting that could look really cool if you have the right case
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you have the right other components all that kind of stuff but then I feel like the non-limited Edition and this makes
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sense would go much better with a more standard build yeah like I would need to
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build around this almost nothing is like
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mat you'd have to do some custom stuff yeah but you could make like a sick
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looking computer like they're probably going to make like a showcase PC that's
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built around that Li Edition card and it's going to look awesome
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probably okay apparently Vega fire
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strike scores have appeared so this was posted by
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delicious on the Forum and the original article here is again from videoc
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cards.com and they are claiming that these are three separate RX Vega scores
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here um the memory clocks are all the
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same but the GPU clocks apparently
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ranged from 1536 to 1630 although I
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would take that with a grain of salt because I'm not sure exactly how they
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are measuring the GPU clock whether it's like an average of what's running during
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the actual Benchmark cuz GPU clocks are all over the place depending on uh Power
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delivery and Cooling these days
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so we'll have to see that that's my thing with all these rumors is
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especially with the performance ones I don't really care until we actually get it ourselves or until other reviews
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actually start coming out y because like I who
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knows and this is interesting so this
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original article this was posted by banan splitcore on the Forum and the original
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article here is from sweclockers
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apparently RX Vega and this is in uh
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meatball so I can't read it
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um I'm sorry Sweden I love you guys I love you guys
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okay you could like Google it's literally giving you the option right
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there nope not not on the stream apparently not on the stream there you
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go um so wow this Google translate has
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gotten really good that was pretty decent it start to collapse into AMD
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Vega and now circulates the first prize
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information behind the scenes okay so it's pretty good okay so
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it's pretty good pretty close um the
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meatball yes
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meat oh my goodness okay so good
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distributors in Europe apparently have
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received pricing for RX Vega in the 600
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to 700 Euro range which is which would
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be 75 to
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820 yeah now it should be noted that
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this has to be taken with a grain of salt because vendors often give out sort
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of random pricing like back when I used to work at NC this would happen all the
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time where we would just like guess yeah
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and we would create a skew because we
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couldn't cut a PO to the unless we had a skew and then there were
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time well no that I mean that makes sense because when it arrives how would
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the labeling staff like know what label to put on it and stuff but then why
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would you have to put a can you just put a placeholder that isn't anything
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um if our system was that sophisticated we could have done that yes that doesn't
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sound sophisticated yeah you know what can you
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just all right let's move on okay um so
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anyway it is it is fairly common for retailers to just kind of put a price in
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but um uh the other right the other reason
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to not do that might be to hide the final pricing so there had been times
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when we would create a skew and we would put it in for like
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$999,999 or just zero yeah no because then people would order it and there
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were oh so it's a purchasable skew I
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don't know why don't you just have unreleased so there were several
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statuses okay so we could there was hide status for a where you could manually
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navigate to the page um and hide status
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was useful for uh validating that like landing pages were working and stuff so
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you could click make sure everything's actually working and there was uh
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discontinued status which you could load
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the page but I think pricing was just gone and there was no buy now there's
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like there's all these different statuses that you can have um and
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sometimes they would be broken also NCI system was imperfect to
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the point at least then Ian shut
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up to the point where at least back then
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there were at least a handful of customers who if they found out the skew
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number and you could sort of guess because you could find new arrivals by
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looking at new arrivals and then you could find gaps in the skew
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numbering and you could manually key them in and so people found ways to
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manually Force the system to add things to the cart so those aren't hidden Pages
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at all so yeah in that case they couldn't even navigate to the page but
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they could force Addis skew to the cart and buy
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it oh my goodness that's yeah so it's not hidden at all it's so well it
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depends on what status was being anyway the long story long story short there
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are ways for these things to happen and there are very Savvy customers out there
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yeah who are trying really hard to be like the one to leak pricing so so there
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would be times when we would just fill in BS information I don't know if you
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still have this up is it this page yeah
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okay random little side bit we almost
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made a video here media marked I don't think we
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actually released that video but media marked is very cool oh yeah it's a very
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cool store like you can go in there and they have like an entire row and in
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inside the row like your left will just be like shelves and shelves of keyboards
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with like a box behind it that's probably empty that's like strapped down
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so you can see what it is exactly what model exactly what key switch all that
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kind of stuff and then the keyboard right there and like key
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pullers so you can like look under it see what the switch is look around and
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type on the keyboard and try it out on the other side mice down the row a
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little bit headphones and like actually a huge amount of each type of category
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and like Brandon was there with me and they had a whole bunch of cameras all
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set up that you could like actually use with like lighting stuff there so you
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could actually try it like it's a really cool store Swedish uh Swedish consumers
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must be a lot more trustworthy than North American ones media marked I think
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is a German company but they're in like multiple countries like we saw them in
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Switzerland right okay yeah cool but
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they're in they're in a number of no I went there yeah no I went to one because
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um I was at the BMW shoot and we needed
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h a GoPro yeah they're pretty cool right
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there was something like they only had like four monitors or something and I
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was like that's kind of weird when you have like actually an insane amount of
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everything else but like right it was a cool store and the monitors that they
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did have they had displayed with things playing on them like that's that's
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pretty cool all right yet another Vega leak this was posted by good to good
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tofu Friday um the original article here
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here is from Reddit and apparently a look at the
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Eurasian economic commission's site
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confirms Vega 10 Vega 11 Vega 12 and
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Vega 20 whatever that
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means it could just be code names even
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yeah I actually don't know how meaningful this is it's a little bit of
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a stretch Maybe
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uh okay so this is in okay some kind
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of uh is this uh hey hey
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Ivan no never mind looks like kind of
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like Russian or like there's quite a few countries that you check or like what
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what alphabet is this even cilic yeah
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cilic thank you okay wow there's like
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actually a lot of information in here so
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this is like Vega 10 XT MBA
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dto OEM which I would have to assume is desktop OEM Dell with extender and then
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like a part number and then there's like
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allhe server 225 watt fcst AI oh
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maybe oh maybe AMD fire Pro Vega 12 XT
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workstation fcst here's a part number wow this actually looks like
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fairly fairly legit
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incredible huh okay then well that's
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neat I
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guess all right apparently
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45 Vega products were registered by AMD
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under the Vega product line on the economic commission's website that's
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pretty intense but they they had like AI cards and stuff so I don't know how
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specific they're getting there there could be some like non-consumer level
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things looks pretty damn specific to me given they've got a Dell with extender
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right yeah and then probably like Dell with no extender yeah so so I there
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might not be actually much changing in between by the way I saw someone fly
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through the chat they had said that they just landed in Canada for LTX nice so
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that's cool we will see you tomorrow you're awesome we will so see you
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tomorrow it is going to be great again
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I'm at I'm actually super excited for
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LTX okay like more excited for any other convention that I'm going to this year
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not even just saying that dare me to mention crowd size on the stage crowd
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size on the stage why because I don't think I'm getting
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this reference the fake news I feel like
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oh there's 10,000 people here
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10,000 I can't believe 50,000 people
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showed up I mean they're standing on top of each other the last time 100,000
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people were in the Langley Event Center there was 250,000 people there the last
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time there was I didn't even know there were a million people in Cloverdale the
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fact that they can fit the fact that they can fit 2 million
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people in the arena is just a feet of engineering my friends called up and
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we're like yeah we made the best arena it can fit 5 m the best the greatest
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Arena uh okay Intel Core X Series I
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actually have no idea what this is I
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have not heard of any leak about this uh
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oh oh okay oh okay so video cards.com is the op
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here it's kind of funny you you can tell uh where James decided to get his news
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from each week yeah yeah yeah he was uh
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he was hanging out on the video well mind you all the news is about video
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cards that's fair it is right in the name this isn't a video card that's true
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fake news fake news okay all right so
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it's the full specs now of Intel tells
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high-end desktop platform so there's ones that we knew already 7640x 7740x
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that's out you can go buy one if you want if you're into that sort of thing
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uh 7900x our review already went up that's the 10 core 20 thread uh 3.3 base
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uh 4.5 Boost Max uh 44 Lane quad Channel
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memory blahy blahy blah and then now we
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finally got clock speeds for the high-end stuff so apparently that 18
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core will run at 2.6 GHz base and will
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actually boost up almost as high as the
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7900x which is only a 10 core which is
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pretty incredible if they can get it to run in a motherboard without Lighting on
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fire uh the step down the 16 core so
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pricing here that'll be two grand and then replacing the
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6950x will be a 16 core I man my 10 core
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that we just upgraded all our workstations with gets I actually but
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you know what's cool about that I'm a little sad about my processor so so
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what's cool about this is I'm salty
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about a new product for the first time
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in a long time okay okay okay I hear you
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a little bit because normally it would be like you just trying to dangle
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purchasing decisions and you're like yeah the last one that came out was really good so maybe I'll get that
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but that's not really what happened yeah it was oh nothing's really happened so I
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guess it doesn't matter and then out of nowhere things come out so you kind of got blindsided instead of like whoa
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everything's fun and cool I need your keys oh you need my keys sure I was like
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he's probably not asking for the electrical thing I also need that oh
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okay all right I also need a heat gun a
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jigsaw with a blade and a crowbar a heat gun a jigsaw with a blade and a crowbar
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well there's a crowbar yeah sorry I uh I actually need
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some of the other stuff on my keychain so do you have my
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what do I have a vehicle no I can drive him home or wherever he needs to go
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we're going to dinner and then I can drive you okay are you on the show right
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now yeah oh yeah we're live so yeah bye Nick thank you thank you
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Nick um okay so full specs are in and
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basically the I can see why they launched with the 7900x it does look
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like a pretty good middle ground um although I can see too how the
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7920x for 200 more for two more cores
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actually looks not bad as well although all of this really depends on what AMD
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does with Threadripper and they've got a second chart here where they are
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actually trying to compare
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um AMD versus uh Intel I think yeah so
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here's can't beat that PCIe Lanes I know 64 four PCI Express Lanes what the
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actual trash man yeah like what the heck
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so we don't know thread rippers xfr frequencies but uh at 99 bucks that 16
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thread is looking pretty or 16 core 32
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thread is looking pretty fraking competitive with a 10 core with fewer
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PCI lanes and maybe a higher boost
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frequency but we don't even know TDP TBD
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though as well lots of those going on but like even
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just the price difference there is ridiculous like if you want to get up
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higher on other things there's always over talking I can't imagine based on
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what we know about Zen versus Skylake
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architecture core by core performance
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frequency by frequency performance I can't imagine that 16 core doing
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anything but
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utterly curb wrecking that 10 core
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yeah in a multi-threaded workload and quite frankly if you're not talking
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about multi-threaded workloads I don't understand why you're talking about Sky
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Lake X or Threadripper in the first place yes that's a very important
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distinction yes and like some people need both use cases mhm but usually if
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you need both use cases it's not like an extreme Peak on the single P that core
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that you're needing and you probably want to push your multi-threaded more that's right that's like the vast
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majority of people all right speaking of
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the vast majority of people the vast majority of the all 6,000 of
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you um need
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to why is my start menu Auto hiding I am
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super mad about that need
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to need
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to uh he moved it I was wondering what
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happened to it I moved it up he moved it back down oh what is it this oh I moved
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it way up I was like why did we skip it and then I was like oh cuz it got moved
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okay I'm sorry I'm just uh just waiting here need to we'll get there need to yes
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yes stalling yes stalling uh need to listen to us talk about
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Spectrum uh staring at a monitor all day
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there's it's actually not a secret that that can be not the greatest thing for
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your eyes you got to be kidding me where are they James took
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them I'll be right back dang it James I
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wear them every day so so James personally vouches for
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spectrum glasses an affordable solution
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to staring at a computer screen all day some monitors do have blue light filters
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but many many don't
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including many that come pre-attached to
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a computer like your laptop uh so the a software solution like flux or Twilight
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doesn't give you the same type of filtering that an actual colored glass
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does so the features include being stylish they've worked on their glasses
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making them look like something anyone could wear around the office uh quality
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so they got a one-year warranty and low color Distortion Thanks James um I
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actually have to take this so this is like super important so you might have
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to jump in and do the other one so they're primarily focused on Canada and
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the link below and use offer code Linus to save 10% they are coming to Europe
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very soon and I really do have to take this um and so the next one is
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about that earlier in the show um they're sponsoring LTX which is awesome
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so everyone that's at LTX will be able to benefit from their sponsorship for
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LTX uh if you go to freshbooks.com WAN
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and enter W in the how did you hear about a section you get a free trial
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which is pretty fantastic freshbooks has time sheet functionality expense
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functionality tons of different things that you would need as a uh company that
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has Pella Walker directly in front of the camera um so that you could expense
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Pella for the like3 seconds that he was in front of the lens um or as Pella you
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could expense lonus Media Group for the3 seconds that you spent on camera because
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they might have to license your personality and features in like your
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face and other details like that um so
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yeah no no no phone tree no escalations if you have any issues with fresh books
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you can call them and talk to a real person right away which is pretty
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fantastic and then that's it all the sponsor spots are done hooray I have no
32:29
idea when lonus is going to be back so I think I'm just going to jump into the
32:33
next article I think I know what that phone call is about and uh people at LTX
32:38
will benefit a lot from that phone call happening let me get to the next
32:46
article USB 3.2 was announced this is
32:49
going to be a little bit of a Juggle to try to get this on the screen but it is
32:53
freaking Fast 2 GB per second is what
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the USB 3.2 spec is stating right now um
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it is a multi-lane solution compared to the current USB which is single Lane
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only and existing USB type-c cables have
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been designed with multi-lane support so would be able to work I believe you have
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to have USB 3.2 hosts and devices yeah
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um allowing for up to two lanes of 5
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gabit per second or two lanes of 10 GB per second operation that is pretty
33:24
awesome let me get the article up on screen and post it in the chat give me
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one second I have to use my laptop and
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Linus's laptop right now to get this done copy
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that apparently I did that whole thing with my face hidden behind the camera
33:46
sorry about that I'm back we're here we're doing this uh I'm going to jump
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back to the article um a USB 3.2 host
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connected to a USB 3.2 storage device so
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probably the main things you're going to see with this early on are going to be
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like NAS Drives or just external single
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enclosure hard driv stuff like that um will now be capable of realizing over 2
34:09
gabt per second of data transfer performance over an existing USB type-c
34:14
cable which is super cool cuz I like invested and bought a few different like
34:18
multi packs of USBC cables so I have a lot of those already and would really
34:22
rather not buying new ones so thank you for allowing that to happen um and but
34:27
the cable does need to be certified for super speed USB 10 gbit per second which
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it probably is so you're probably fine
34:35
but I don't know I would make sure of that this bit of news is hilarious but
34:39
I'm going to try to get it posted in the twitch chat before I actually really start talking about it but Internet
34:43
connected car washes it's hilarious and terrifying at the same time I guess but
34:48
that's that's the world we live in right now um that was the wrong link sorry
34:53
about that give me one second where is I I have no idea I left him over there
34:58
copy ni on I'm back baby
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paste all right what's up we're no longer talking about this we're talking
35:08
about I want to talk about usb 3.2 yeah no Get Wrecked um actually I didn't care
35:13
hey it's pretty cool man yeah yeah yeah I mean all of my thumb drives need to go
35:17
twice as fast thumb drive what about external hard drives what about them
35:22
Thunderbolt whatever man yeah whatever there will be more with USB that's is
35:27
true there will be more and there will be cheaper ones with USB here's another question and there's more devices that
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have USB on it instead of Thunderbolt when was 1 GB pers second a
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bottleneck it's I've wanted more for
35:39
what since when are you like I don't need any more of that performance what
35:42
the hell is this all right fair enough this is
35:48
BS things are happening anyways the uh article that we will be talking about
35:52
now is that uh car wash that is Internet connected can be hacked it can strike
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your vehicle trap passengers dose them with water hit them with doors wow all
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this kind of stuff um we believe this to
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be the first exploit of a connected device that causes the device to
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physically attack someone researchers presenting the proof
36:14
of concept say it's maybe a little bit of a stretch I think it it would be how
36:19
you define attack yeah cuz the people that could like take over a car and shut
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off its engine while it's on a highway I would see that as a way a form of attack
36:27
I mean if a house was on fire people being able
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to hack your Smart Lock to stay dead bolted is an attack in the same sense
36:35
those nuclear facilities that they were trying to overload that's definitely an
36:39
attack that's super an attack so yeah I I don't necessarily know what they mean
36:44
by that but I I see what they're kind of saying like being able to beat someone
36:47
with it it's a little bit different I guess yeah so they could an attacker can
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send an instantaneous command to close
36:55
one or both doors to trap the vehicle inside or open and close one door
36:59
repeatedly to strike the vehicle a number of times as a driver tries to
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flee or even even you don't even necessarily know what's happening you're
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doing the like drying sequence as you drive your car out and all a sudden it's
37:11
just like b b b b b and just super wrecks your car uh the systems run on
37:16
Windows CE and have a built-in web server that lets technicians configure
37:21
and monitor them over the Internet so the researchers became interested in car
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washes after hearing about an accident that occurred years ago where technicians misconfigured one in a way
37:29
that caused the mechanical ARM to strike a minivan and douse the family inside
37:33
with water wow yeah pretty brutal and if you
37:38
are able to use those giant mechanical arms that are in car washes they're huge
37:43
to smash someone's car if you could crack it open you could keep them in
37:47
there and just like flood them with water
37:50
right do super bad and then if they leave their car you just beat them with
37:54
the giant ARM thing it's actually pretty
37:57
sketch don't Internet connect to your car wash I literally see no reason for
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doing that actually at all in terms of having like control over what the arms
38:05
and stuff do that should probably be pre-coded you could maybe Internet
38:10
connect like how much water is being used like being able to observe how much
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water is being used not to control how much water is being used yeah I mean
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it's a fine line cuz like I can understand I can understand why they
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would want to be able to reprogram it remotely why uh okay let's say uh um the
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detergent that they used to use was
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discontinued by the manufacturer due to environmental regulation changes they
38:36
have to switch to a new detergent so they have to completely retune all the
38:40
different stages and the ARM spinning power and there you go there's a reason
38:47
that they want to be able to deploy a fix widely quickly but that's like
38:52
you're changing supply lines for the detergent you've got to have people
38:55
manually changing the detergent I feel like someone could walk up to a thing
38:59
and would you trust the average gas station attendant to update the firmware
39:03
on might legitimately rather that than an Internet connected Car Wash okay if
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you were the business owner of the gas
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station would you want that person potentially bricking your expensive car
39:16
wash but like you also have to look
39:19
into if someone dies in your car wash cuz this thing beats the crap out of
39:23
them oh yeah I get it I get that too I'm just saying that I see both sides I
39:29
understand why a car wash might want to be connected right at the very least it
39:34
should have like you have to be on its Network to be able to do it and stuff
39:40
and just like get some better it guys I don't know I don't know man just saying
39:45
so Twitter is apparently testing an automatic tweet promotion
39:49
service so it's a
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$99 monthly automatic tweet promotion
39:59
thing um okay Auto amplifies all your
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tweets and your profile for a full 30-day period that's
40:09
actually smart I think a lot of companies could go okay it's only 99
40:14
bucks yeah I'd probably buy it everything will perform better I that makes a lot of sense we should probably
40:17
just buy it it's not a bad idea no need to create any dedicated ads low
40:22
commitment you can cancel it any time it's in beta so they're giving
40:26
participants the first 30 days free very interesting it's actually like
40:31
a really smart idea I haven't seen a smart idea from Twitter in terms of
40:34
monetization yet at all and that's a very that's a very good idea ouch yeah
40:40
I'm not kidding though and like I think I think they probably wouldn't even take
40:43
that as a dig because from what they've said publicly that seems to line up with
40:47
their thinking as well huh promote your
40:50
business today okay welcome to Twitter ads uh
40:54
blah blah blah blah blah I'm just I'm
40:58
I'm just curious like is it in here like where do you
41:01
go Target potential you guys can't see it right now and I think that's cuz we
41:05
don't necessarily know what's going to pop up on screen yeah I don't have a Twitter ads account so like this is
41:10
stupid why doesn't Tech crunch's article have a link to oh it's a private beta oh
41:14
private beta aimed at small businesses and individuals rather than big
41:19
brands well I want to I want to try
41:23
it I want people to care about my my my
41:26
tweet handle cuz it knows you're logged in and
41:31
it didn't know what handle you had oh Twitter come on guys oh Twitter it shows
41:38
like his logo because he's logged in in the corner and it's like what handle
41:42
what what what handle do you use I hate
41:45
that oh no never mind technology and Computing is a category that is
41:49
fantastic okay due to the limited nature we cannot support other Target audiences
41:55
okay terms and conditions I agree
41:58
um I'm not a robot and submit okay so
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we're applying right now this is a closed beta program please be sure that
42:07
to make the information match your handle on your invitation if you're not part of the initial invite list we have
42:11
recorded your application we'll follow up if we open the beta up cool all right
42:15
well I want to give Twitter my money I don't really but we'll see apparently
42:20
Twitter added a total of zero new users
42:24
last quarter uh
42:28
like I'm thinking net yeah isn't that
42:32
terrifying if your whole value of your company is your user base but then like
42:38
how do you add Val company is the the
42:41
what I don't remember what his handle is the real Donald Trump or whatever I was
42:44
looking through handles recently and I typed at and the first thing that came
42:48
up was that and I promise you I've never been to that account I'm not even just
42:52
saying that about him I I don't go to political people's Twitter accounts
42:55
because I don't care
42:58
wow yeah all right then uh now yeah we will
43:04
uh now you can buy solar energy from your neighbor on a
43:09
blockchain I don't really have much else to say about that it's a new york-based
43:14
startup and they want to help electricity users buy energy from their
43:17
energy producing neighbors using smart meters and an app that seems like a
43:21
niche within a niche within a niche and that's great
43:25
um there's also mention of negawatts
43:29
where you're paid to turn your water heater and other energy drains
43:34
off I don't know why you'd be paid for
43:39
that I'm assuming because you'd be able to sell more to your neighbors but I
43:43
don't I'm not really sure this is pretty
43:48
fascinating so tax evaders must now fear
43:53
Instagram in India anyway check this out
43:57
holiday posts on Instagram tipping off
44:00
India's Tax Collectors so a photo of your shiny new
44:06
car or Facebook post about your Chic holiday Cottage may cause you to get
44:14
audited I mean it was a matter of time before this was going to happen but
44:18
India's government will begin amassing a warehouse of virtual information uh
44:24
starting next month collected not just from traditional sour like Banks but
44:28
also social media sites they'll be looking to match resident spending
44:32
patterns with their income declarations so they'll be able to spot
44:37
those who pay too little tax without like raiding their homes the way that
44:42
they do now very
44:47
interesting so uh in
44:50
2016 only 37 million of India's 1.3
44:54
billion people filed tax returns wow
44:57
that's somewhere in the neighborhood of 37% um wait what sorry 3% 3% uh so
45:06
India's efforts are similar to the UK's connect which is estimated to have cost
45:10
about 100 million pounds but prevented the loss of 5.4 billion in revenue and
45:17
apparently the number of criminal prosecutions has risen wow that's
45:22
incredible by like 700% from 165 a year
45:26
to 11 65 unbelievable
45:32
me Amazon launches partial delivery
45:35
lockers for apartment buildings so yeah
45:39
it's kind of boring apparently YouTube read and
45:42
googleplay music are going to merge to create a new service the original
45:46
article here is from The Verge and they've confirmed that it'll be one
45:51
service to cover everything almost I
45:54
mean I don't really understand what the real differences other than branding
45:58
here because they were already including Google play music with YouTube Red I am
46:03
super stoked to hope that my Google Play
46:06
music account will now include YouTube red but I'm not sure about that but they
46:11
basically said they needed to merge the two services to help educate consumers
46:14
and bring in new subscribers uh right
46:18
now there it's just kind of unnecessarily complicated so there's
46:22
YouTube Red which removes ads from videos and lets you save them offline
46:25
while also giving you access to Google Play music for free then there's YouTube
46:29
music which anyone can use but gets better if you're signed up for YouTube
46:32
red and then YouTube TV is an entirely separate thing but not available
46:36
everywhere yet so they're combining the teams working on the two streaming
46:39
services or rather they combined them earlier this
46:44
year I guess really the last thing left on the show today is uh a look at what's
46:50
going on over on Flow playing Club
46:54
wo I guess I could also do like a a
46:58
teaser for LTX so one thing that's not going to be at LTX after all is the
47:03
arcade machine uh Anthony has been away
47:07
on a personal matter this week and he was the one who was going to kind of get
47:11
all the little things that weren't quite done about it tidied up and get it
47:15
transported there and it looks like we're not going to be able to get that done but we are still going to have a
47:20
bunch of cool stuff there 16k gaming is still going to be there um and on that
47:27
subject I guess we can have a look at what's over on Flow
47:31
plane so the crappiest SLI setup of all
47:35
time it's a pretty fun video that uh went up on
47:39
Wednesday the conclusion of gaming at
47:43
16k resolution is up so if you guys are
47:46
going to want to binge watch some uh some LT that'll be included in there the
47:52
how we make our videos video wait oh
47:56
people people must have just commented on we really need a better like sort by
48:00
original post can you do that sort by by
48:04
oh yeah look at that uh wait what it's
48:08
currently on that oh okay way to go Noob
48:12
all right uh we tried Apple's forgotten game console from 1996 this was a really
48:17
fun one that was so much fun yeah Intel stock cooler on
48:21
steroids there's like a roided out version of the like St yeah that's cool
48:27
yeah um that's interesting Logitech G
48:31
power play that was a simultaneous release ultimate sleeper PC build oh I'm
48:35
excited to see that actually have you you haven't watched this I've seen the intro the intro is fantastic you're too
48:40
busy developing the site to actually use the site calling people and doing weird
48:45
busy stuff way to go Channel Super Fun Way To Go Channel Super Fun Cutler
48:50
investigation Channel Super Fun yeah okay so we found out who was stealing
48:54
the cutlery also Colton is pretending he's a cop people liked this man yeah I
48:58
know it was actually a pretty funny well yeah good job hey thanks guys I won't
49:04
spoil it but the ending is pretty epic I I also haven't seen that the the ending
49:08
is pretty epic I've been wanting to watch it though there's actually another video that's going to be going up very
49:12
shortly we've got another uh Warehouse construction update oh cool yeah have
49:16
you been up there recently yes this actually looks really nice yeah I'm
49:21
pretty excited I'm like super excited I'm stoked that even though my office is
49:25
moving a lot I'm like pretty much equidistant from the kitchen yeah
49:31
actually and there's two kitchens now well no that's what I'm saying oh from
49:35
the new kitchen yes and you are going to be the closest person in the building to
49:39
the shower oh it's upstairs yeah yes
49:43
yeah the the bathroom in the corner there is the one with the shower that's actually awesome I'm going to yeah
49:47
anyways yeah I'm probably going to start doing like I'm going shower so much well
49:51
I might start doing sport lunch times sport lunch very nice yeah all right so
49:56
did you have anything else I there's a there's a minor issue
50:02
with one of the booths and I have the solution at my home because I collect
50:07
things so I will solve the problem it wasn't ours it wasn't our problem okay
50:12
yeah there's a minor issue with one of my things that I'm not
50:17
sure uh is that the thing I was working on oh oh oh oh oh should we show that
50:23
there was a minor issue with that which will also be at LTX you can only see the
50:27
side of it really do you guys want to lift it up we should but don't move too close
50:32
like keep it blurry keep it blurry cuz you're going to have to be at LTX if you
50:35
want to you guys got
50:41
it oh so that's going to be a pretty interesting build blog don't don't don't
50:45
look too much don't look too much don't look too much okay so that'll be at LTX
50:49
and the video will be coming soon um yeah so it's going to be uh it's going
50:52
to be a cool show I'm actually super stoked I really hope I get one of my my
50:56
demos that is like you know no offense
51:00
to any anyone else and everything they're doing but will actually be the
51:03
most exciting thing at the show um is
51:06
straight up not working right now so I've
51:10
got 15 hours nice if if it doesn't work
51:16
will you take each
51:20
half and show them I don't know let's
51:25
keep it mysterious oh my so thanks for watching guys we will see
51:29
you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel if you haven't already go
51:34
sign up for float playing Club yes copy
51:37
link address I'm going to post that in the twitch chat and uh yeah we will see
51:43
you guys at LTX if you're going to be there Floatplane yes LTX yes heck yeah
51:49
okay here we go where is it there it is
51:58
everyone's flipping out about the like teaser
52:03
yeah I'm sorry guys there's nothing I can
52:07
do and no after party
52:12
yes sorry guys I don't think we're doing an Afterparty today we've got a lot of
52:16
planning to deal with for tomorrow like no one's no one's going home right now
52:19
but we can't uh we can't keep streaming I will have my thing but it's going to
52:24
be late yeah so there you you go don't don't expect any time frame for that
52:30
that makes any sense at all there we go