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The WAN Show - WHAT Was Apple THINKING?? with Guest Jon Rettinger! - Mar 13, 2015

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0:00 show we have a special guest here right now with us is John ringer from techno

0:06 Buffalo normally we do lower thirds for these guys but um sorry John we did not

0:11 get our crap together in time today so do you want to do a brief introduction

0:15 to yourself and what you're all about I'm uh sure I'm John ringer I run a site

0:20 called TechnoBuffalo you can check us out there or youtube.com slno Buffalo we

0:25 play with toys so basically you do what we do except like more professional

0:31 I don't know I think you do an awesome job I've been following your uh computer

0:34 build you've been doing it looks incredible awesome so of course the

0:40 thing that we brought you on for today is not strictly to talk about a computer

0:46 build or really computers at all because

0:49 Apple had a pretty big event this week and they had some pretty crazy stuff to

0:55 show off and now normally when I say Yeah man they had like this event and

0:59 like they had like crazy stuff to show off I mean like yeah it was like bananas

1:04 and like Flames painted on the freaking side um this time we're talking they

1:09 legitimately appear to have completely lost their minds um what is up okay okay

1:15 let's let's let's let's start with the watch let's start with the watch we'll

1:19 leave the punch line for later um what's up with the pricing and functionality

1:23 and battery life of the Apple watch what's your take on this okay so I was

1:27 at the event I had a chance to play with uh the watch and what I think you're

1:32 probably going to talk about next uh the watch looks great the screen is it's

1:36 beautiful the UI is super smooth but it

1:39 pretty much does what every other Smartwatch I got the Moto 360 on my

1:43 wrist it pretty much does what every other Smartwatch does save for the cool

1:47 feature being able to draw little penises to your friends and send them

1:50 off um other than that the the features

1:53 just aren't there yet there's no compelling reason to go out and buy one

1:57 especially at that price point John I got to stop you for a minute I can draw penises on my wrist and send

2:04 those to my friends send them right off right off I am so sold right now and and

2:09 the the funny part is I saw three people doing that at the

2:15 event that's awesome really wow I I was

2:18 not one of them sure you yeah whatever

2:22 man at least you know I didn't get caught one so there's a total of at

2:25 least four then because there's the three you saw and then there's you yeah

2:30 Yeah well yeah probably oh that is great

2:33 okay so let's talk let's talk pricing there's actually a great there's a great

2:38 uh thread on the I'm I'm still getting like my dock together and all that I'm

2:42 just completely behind the eightball guys we've only got John for like another 15 minutes cuz he has a family

2:47 or some crap like that so uh we wanted

2:50 to get on the air and get talking to him about this because it's freaking awesome

2:54 but uh let's talk pricing of the Apple watch so the sport version the like the

3:00 like kind of Casio competitor you know

3:03 the timx you know sort of class product

3:06 here $350 to start does that seem crazy to

3:11 you for the small one too the 38 millimeter on like a normal dud wrist

3:15 looks tiny like tiny

3:20 uh yeah it's about $100 higher than I expected in all honesty I mean Apple

3:24 always has that sort of price premium um

3:28 functionality wise there's no functionality between the sport and like

3:32 the $10,000 Edition function no

3:35 difference at all um the pricing the

3:40 pricing is not where I think they lost their damn mind at least from the announcements that they made um but they

3:45 definitely are pushing the envelope for what people are going to be tolerant towards it does really feel that way I

3:51 mean I think I think because I mean it's clear what they're trying to do they're

3:54 trying to invent a category again or at the very least reinvent a category again

3:59 the way that did with the iPad but the problem with that is that the iPad

4:06 was um never really done very well and I

4:10 think you could make the argument that some of the other SmartWatches that

4:14 exist now are done pretty well the Moto 360 is a good watch the gatr is an

4:20 excellent Smartwatch and apple in My

4:23 Mind Made made basically there was there

4:27 was one there there are two fundamental Al flaws or or deadly sins that have

4:32 been committed here number one is they're asking a huge premium for something that doesn't blow the doors

4:36 off off what's available already and number two is it's not a watch to me a

4:43 watch is a thing that goes on your wrists and tells you the time all the

4:47 time and something that doesn't have an always on screen to me is just but then

4:52 again you probably disagree with me cuz I'm sure you could have a gatr if you

4:55 felt like it you wear a Moto 360 argue

4:59 argue with me for the validity of a

5:02 screen that's not always on that's a tough one oh all right it's

5:09 a it's a tough one but you know what I'm play Devil's advy because half time I'm

5:13 only looking at my wrist when I look at my wrist soon as I bring it up it's on I

5:16 see what I need I don't need to see my wrist when it's down by my side I'd

5:19 rather save the battery life is about the only argument I could make if I

5:23 disagreed with you ah okay so so are we

5:27 on the same page here kind of going like I've been I've been hoping that all the

5:32 rumors coming out of apple were [ __ ] that it was just um it was going to have

5:37 an OLED screen somehow and it was going to only illuminate the pixels that it

5:41 needed and it was going to somehow show me the time all day and this whole like

5:45 4H hour 5 hour of screen time battery life nonsense was going to be complete

5:51 Hokum um but it it that didn't happen so

5:54 are we going to see a quick are we going to see a quick iteration like we did

5:58 from iPad to iPad 2 2 where the where the the the the the Apple watch one just

6:04 kind of quietly gets forgotten and gets updated for much shorter a period of

6:09 time and actually Apple Watch 2 ends up being the the one that's delivers the

6:13 experience so this is what makes me really nervous about the watch at that

6:16 price point that's right no nobody knows what the upgrade Cycle's gonna be here

6:21 yeah I mean I'd like to meet and I'm going to choose my descriptive words

6:25 carefully the individual who goes out to spend $10,000

6:30 Plus on a watch and like I get going out and buying a Rolex buying something like

6:34 that like I can at least wrap my head around that but this is a piece of

6:37 technology that is going to be upgraded probably sooner than 18

6:41 months okay so here's my issue so

6:45 another issue with the watch oh man we are definitely going to run at least a

6:48 couple minutes past 5 please tell your wife not to kill me uh because okay okay

6:53 so issue with the watch now we've already talked about how the sport edition the 349 one is already

6:58 overpriced let's talk about the $10,000

7:01 super expensive ones and we'll get into this later on the show you guys how the

7:05 Apple Gold is not actually as much gold as other gold we'll talk about that

7:09 later but the the the the 10,000 plus

7:12 dollar watches now we all know why people buy something like that they buy

7:17 it because it makes them feel like a big man with a big penis but the the

7:21 justifications the reasons they say alloud are going to be things like um

7:27 you know it's it's a timeless fashion

7:30 statement I will wear it for 50 years this is something we hear said we hear

7:34 in the apocalypse my Rolex will still

7:37 keep time when all the satellites or if I'm diving so far underwater or if I'm

7:43 wherever the heck in the most extreme conditions this is a piece of

7:47 craftsmanship that will perform to its

7:51 utmost ability forever basically we hear

7:54 these Arguments for the Apple watch they

7:57 have to appeal to that customer how by

8:01 showing you text messages on your wrist wrong customer that's that's my man who

8:06 is going to buy the $10,000 watch do you think it's Am I Wrong are people just

8:10 going to do it anyway I gotta tell you that was probably the most eloquent

8:14 synopsis of the addition watch that I have absolutely heard it absolutely well

8:19 said that's who they're competing with and listen I I can understand going out

8:22 and spending a lot of money on a watch if that's your thing people spend their money on whatever they choose to car

8:28 clothes whatever about Rolex there's a huge market for used watches there's a

8:32 huge Mark those if they don't appre if they don't appreciate in value what some

8:36 of them do appreciation is not huge you

8:39 try selling that your Apple Edition watch the day after Apple Edition 2

8:43 comes out good luck good luck and you

8:46 want to sell it for the gold that's in it y i I think it might sell okay but I

8:51 don't think it's going to sell okay uh for very long I think it's going to be

8:55 very much a like oh look how baller I am but then no one's going to care so it

8:59 might be a problem so I actually think maybe if if when it becomes uh iteration

9:03 so two three whatnot they might have more of a hard time selling those gold

9:07 ones than this first launch cuz John brought up another good point the

9:11 investment aspect it's it's like buying a a classic design Rolex is kind of like

9:17 buying a classic car you expect it to at the very least hold its value and and

9:22 something like a dress watch a jewelry watch you expect to do even better

9:26 because it's worth its weight in gold at the very freaking least

9:32 do then and then your building your it

9:36 beinging people who are impressed by that I don't think the kinds of guys who

9:41 you're going to want to rub elbows with at that cocktail party and would be

9:45 impressed by your freaking awesome Rolex are going to give two craps about your

9:50 like digital Gizmo but I I think people will think that they will and then once

9:54 they kind of realize oh that doesn't really matter that's why I said later in

9:57 iterations I don't think it'll sell as well I I can't figure out who's going to

10:00 buy this perhaps other than a certain unnamed uh boy Genius um I I can't see

10:06 who would possibly pick up anything like

10:09 this I don't know you know what's funny is back when the the pricing rumors were

10:14 circulating I was telling myself you know what just for the sake of drawing

10:18 more eyeballs to my Apple Watch review

10:21 I'll I'll go ahead and I'll buy whatever the highest end one is and you know what

10:25 it's too crazy I can't even because normally what I would do with something

10:29 like like that is I'd flip it when I'm done and i' right I don't even think

10:33 I'll be able to flip it I don't think anyone will be what YouTubers do you

10:37 think we gonna pick this up I think Marcus might do it just because he can I

10:41 think I think Lou might do it Marcus might jump on it but like so there's two

10:45 sales right there yeah so so maybe I'll buy their used one that'll be my trick I

10:51 mean it works for a lot of people I'm not of like to buy everything's School

10:54 of YouTube me neither I just it's just not

10:59 we do but I mean there's certainly a market for it and people will do and think I'd watch a video that they did

11:03 you know all right we got six minutes left if we're going to try and get you out of here on time so let's move on to

11:08 the MacBook can I can I can I can I launch the opening Salvo here I'm not

11:13 I'm not going to talk ports I'm not even going to talk ports okay I'm going to leave that for you okay so the MacBook

11:19 Apple unleashes the MacBook I'm not going to talk color either now Apple had

11:23 a Macbook and Once Upon a Time the

11:26 MacBook made sense in the in the in the in the grand scheme of Apple's lineup we

11:31 had the MacBook Pro this was for your content creators this was before Apple

11:35 completely forgot about content creators and then pretended they remembered

11:39 content creators and gave them that little uh you know cylinder PC so when

11:43 they had the MacBook Pro for creators and it was large and it was heavy and

11:47 you lived with that because damn it it was powerful it was good okay then they

11:52 had the MacBook that was the consumer model that was the one that had you know

11:57 kind of everything that Katie needs and

12:00 Katie could buy that and be confident that she could FaceTime or you know

12:05 happy hour or whatever it is that people do on MacBooks okay then they introduced

12:09 the MacBook Air and that made sense so air was light and pro was Pro and the

12:15 MacBook was like the vanilla one now we've got the MacBook a thinner lighter

12:21 air what what is this

12:26 naming what are they doing explain the

12:29 to me you were there surely you had an opportunity to ask someone so that's my

12:34 exact if the MacBook is all about thin and light what the hell is the air about

12:39 why did they even refresh the air why is the air still existent now the air looks

12:45 so busted with its giant ass bezels and

12:49 non Retina Display like it looks so old

12:53 and busted and I imagine the air now has giant profit margins with it I can't I

12:58 can't see why somebody would buy an Aon out okay but then hold on so let's move

13:03 into the next the next wait there's moreit but wait it gets even more

13:08 ridiculous okay I I promised I'd let you do this one so what's the gotcha with

13:12 the MacBook okay so two Goa and the one's

13:17 not even being talked about before I get to the big one yeah M processor yeah

13:23 like I I get it fanless no problem I

13:26 don't mind the M processor so I okay I'll let you finish but but I'm actually

13:29 going to argue this point go ahead though so so argue I'm curious to test

13:33 the M processor let me Le say that I've tested it on PCS if it's as capable as

13:36 everybody suspecting then that's a no argument I'm not expecting to do heavy

13:41 3D rendering or video editing on this computer if it can play

13:44 Starcraft if I can edit some photos on it then you know that's probably going

13:48 to be good enough and if I can play 4K videos back from YouTube then I I won't complain and

13:53 that's a nonissue the big one for me I'm sitting here at my office and at home I

13:58 have a similar setup I'm looking at an iMac and to my right I'm looking at a

14:03 Thunderbolt display which I'd like to continue to

14:07 use well well you just suck at life apparently yeah imagine you you believed

14:12 the lie you invested in the Thunderbolt

14:16 ecosystem you're a sucker okay so new

14:20 Macbook comes out with one port it's USBC first of all USBC is great one port

14:26 for everything love the idea of USBC you can charge it batteries all the adapters

14:31 great but one port and there are a billion adapters

14:37 and obviously going to come out third party but $80 for the Apple s adapter

14:41 let you do what your computer should do out of the box and beyond that my

14:44 thousand display is useless to me it's a

14:47 USB hub it is a big ass USB hub it's a

14:52 really beautiful one yeah so I took my

14:55 MacBook with me to the Apple event let's say next year I want to take my Mac

14:59 MacBook with me to the Apple event here's what I need I need my MacBook

15:02 yeah uh I need the charging cable yes I

15:06 need a USB adapter can go for an SD card

15:09 yep I need another uh USB adapter that I

15:13 can plug in a thumb drive yep or I maybe I need another USBC adapter that's or

15:18 just or just one USB adapter and a hub like even a nonp powerered hub so now at

15:23 the very least I need two dongles or one dongle and a hub like a brick in it or

15:28 something if I forget that or lose it or God forbid it

15:32 breaks that computer is you I mean that computer's useless it's a beautifully

15:36 designed gorgeous useless piece of crap to me at that event you could you could

15:41 bring two of all of the above but then let's talk Brandon bring five let's talk

15:45 I mean both Lenovo and ASUS have gone

15:49 fullon shots fired mode at Apple over this computer uh Lenovo showed the Yoga

15:54 3 and ASUS showed the ux305 and they

15:57 went what is going on here we're we're I

16:01 think it was what Yoga 3 was thinner and ux305 was slightly thicker but actually

16:06 has ports and I'm kind of sitting here going okay hold on a second Apple let me

16:10 let me comprehend this for a second I'm going try because I probably won't be able to but I'll try anyway because you

16:14 deserve it you have billions of dollars or something therefore I should try to

16:18 understand you um you are going to save me2 millimet

16:24 and then I have to carry like a bunch of

16:27 dongles so I have to legitimately buy it's like the it's like it's like my

16:32 objection to the iPad at the beginning and I still object to the 10in 10-in

16:35 tablet form factor I don't think it makes a ton of sense I called it the

16:43 uncaring around a backpack for it so unless you have a purse which I don't

16:48 you can't carry it and that to me is what a laptop that requires dongles is

16:54 it's an uncarved bag to carry the MacBook and we

17:01 haven't even talked about the color yet because I'm gonna want a bag to put that in because it is obscenely ugly so

17:05 listen if I think that this MacBook is making the Yoga 3 Pro and the Surface

17:10 Pro 3 going to sell even better I mean

17:15 those things are gonna fly off the shelf especially with Windows 10 coming the

17:19 yoka Pro 3 is awesome and has

17:22 ports that shouldn't even be a selling point that's what the world has come to

17:28 why is why is actual ports a selling point I mean Apple Apple has done this

17:33 to us before I mean are they just so

17:36 arrogant that they've gone okay well they've accepted that we outright refuse

17:41 to put a Micro SD card reader in our frakin phones for the last eight years

17:46 or however long the iPhone has existed people have accepted that so screw them

17:51 let's take away all the ports from everything when they were doing the announcement and you heard s Johnny I's

17:55 Voice come over the whole unapologetically plastic thing came back

17:59 my mind but all I can vision is I'm going like this oh they smell

18:04 delicious oh I delicious farts

18:08 unapologetically plastic was the best line he has ever spoken ever ever

18:15 spoken ever so okay the

18:19 colors the space gray looks great I don't get what's up with the colors

18:22 they's space gray and silver why are you so mad gold so don't buy it well okay

18:28 the problem the problem is okay okay okay let's go back sorry John you can go

18:32 at any time I know you have to go that's fine but but I want to talk gold

18:36 products for a minute do you remember how the and John I don't know how

18:40 closely you follow PC the PC World like motherboards and crap like that you had

18:44 an option but do you remember when ASUS launched their Gold Series Z87

18:50 motherboards they made all their motherboards gold and you know why they did it they said because we are the gold

18:56 standard we are number one in motherboards and as much as that was a

18:59 very Taiwanese rationale for It For

19:03 Better or For Worse I believe they were actually the first to kick that sort of

19:08 that stupid anodized blasted gold finish

19:12 and and kind of go yes this is the future and we hat before we hated it

19:18 then there was gold iPhones were there before I'm not sure about the timing of

19:21 that so don't quote me on that but the point is they did it and we destroyed

19:26 them for it we absolutely destroyed them there no option there's silver and space

19:29 gray though now Apple's going to do it there's silver and space I know I know

19:33 but Apple's going to do it and the whole industry is going to go oh people demand

19:37 gold and they're going to make gold products you look at Samsung's doing it

19:40 already HTC is doing it

19:44 already when did gold not like yellow

19:47 gold turn from like a tacky color for old people to hip and fashionable I I

19:54 don't like it I just find it hard to be mad at this when you can easily Buy

19:58 spacep which looks really good or silver what we I tend to I tend to agree I mean

20:03 if that was the only color option I would be enraged but color option was

20:07 gold I would be going after this harder than I went after IUS cuz this is ridiculous and you're going to see your

20:12 the color of your laptop more than you're going to see the color of your motherboard which is nuts but there's

20:16 there's silver and space gray and and apple seems to like their colors I don't

20:20 think they're going to narrow it down to just one color either until we get pink

20:23 for Next Generation oh yeah yeah yeah let's get let's get a pink he's not

20:26 going to attack anyone actually I would like the pink one

20:29 the P i' be totally down for the pink can we get that recorded like that to be

20:34 noted for iPhone 6s lonus will have the

20:37 pink version that is on the internet it is done I would do it I would do it 100%

20:42 y I'm playing this back by the way come September I'm just letting you

20:48 know so okay I mean those were those

20:51 were the highlights this is what I really wanted to get you on to like to

20:55 to really like to talk about because I know that mobile device is your freaking

20:59 wheelhouse I figured maybe you could shed some light on this yeah I have no

21:04 light I have no light to shed on I did a whole video on it being like I don't

21:08 know why you would get one but I don't

21:12 know I people buy it people buy people

21:15 will they'll sell out yeah but like I it

21:19 just depends how much they'll sell out like will they sell out and then be hard to get or they sell out and then kind of

21:23 sit on shelves after that they will sit on shelves for like a super long time

21:27 hopefully I think we'll see

21:30 post post Steve Jobs Apple man it's not the same yeah the reports of Apple

21:35 demise are obviously exaggerated but man I don't know what I don't know what the

21:38 I'm not saying demise I'm just saying it's it's very different now that he's

21:42 it is very different I mean can can we go can we go like can we put our

21:46 cynicism hats on here for a moment I wish I had mine it's in the closet over

21:49 there I have a cynicism hat and can we just kind of go well Apple had to

21:54 reinvest their sapphire glass you know

21:58 facil they had to they had to repurpose that for a data center so they got to figure

22:03 out how to sell you more iCloud storage or something so they were like well how

22:08 about no ports brilliant let's do it oh

22:12 my God no ports I don't can I can I play devil's advocate for just a minute here

22:17 absolutely okay so I'll do it for the watch and the MacBook okay if I were

22:22 apple and I was you know running a business such as such as they do and I was Tim Cook say listen we make our

22:27 money not in Hardware profit margins certainly they're

22:32 there and they're definitely there iPhone business is obviously huge bigger

22:35 than Google and Microsoft our bread and butter now is just becoming our app

22:39 ecosystem becoming our ecosystem right anything that we can do to get people

22:43 inside of that ecosystem to spend another 99 cents on another app that's

22:46 probably already on their phone that they want to put on their wrist that's

22:49 worth us doing and even if our profit margins on this watch are 10% if we

22:56 spread out our release cycle to 18 months because people maybe aren't going

22:59 to want to buy a watch every year by the

23:03 time month 14 to 18 rolls around those profit margins are 40 to 50% and now we

23:07 only need one out of every thousand iPhone owners to buy a watch and we

23:11 still make money just as as as an advocate I can

23:15 see the business case that just doesn't sound very Apple though no and in the

23:18 meantime we'll figure out what the hell people are G to do with it like when we'll come up with some killer feature

23:22 for the next one yeah yeah and that that's that's the iPad one argument I

23:26 think we'll create this device we'll see what on Earth is going on and then we'll

23:30 iterate quickly and make it way better yeah and then for the I totally read

23:35 that for the MacBook I think that is like their their halo car let's show the

23:40 world what we can do we can do this because we're Apple we can make a

23:45 keyboard that supposedly has double click mode that doesn't even click

23:48 because we are Apple we'll make the most beautifully designed laptop who gives a

23:52 [ __ ] that it only has one port look at this thing it's gorgeous is your Audi R8

23:57 practical it only has two seats is your Lamborghini practical it only has two

24:01 seats we got one port I got one port because [ __ ] it we don't need

24:08 more you're buying this for the design not for the performance if you want more

24:12 ports buy one of our busted MacBook

24:16 airs yeah I I don't think the cost of

24:20 the additional ports is even going to factor into it that much because it's

24:24 just going to automatically be bundled every single time if you're buying a Macbook you don't care spending $1,200

24:29 on a core you don't care the the thing I don't like is having to kind of haul it

24:33 around and having it be this detached experience and I'm going to I will lose

24:37 it if I had a Macbook that thing would be gone in three days max that's G

24:43 myself a lot I'm in the same man the

24:46 lost and found of like every University English class is just going to have like

24:51 an entire bucket of these adapters it's be ridiculous dongles everywhere dongles

24:56 as far as the eye can see just nuts I I just straight up couldn't do it whenever

25:00 I don't have HDMI I spaz on a laptop you

25:05 got remember what user users buying it yeah a lot of users that are buying this

25:10 will very rarely plug anything into it unless it's like speakers or headphones

25:15 because you've got a keyboard you've got a mouse you probably don't need video

25:18 out well speaking of plugging let's get John to do another plug for uh for where

25:23 you guys can find him and his opinions on Apple and Android and all that good

25:28 stuff before he gets back to his family before I do that I just want to say I

25:32 love what you guys do I think you guys are absolutely awesome anytime I get a chance to come on here I will do

25:37 everything I can to make it work I follow your post on Instagram I I love

25:41 what you guys do and I think you are some of the best in the industry at it

25:45 um if you want to check us out it's phones tablets and just me getting super

25:49 [ __ ] and cranky uh you can check me out at

25:52 youtube.com teob Buffalo um or teob

25:56 buffalo.com but but pay to this guy this guy's a smart man um and uh you know

26:02 hopefully I get a chance to come on again soon maybe we can film a video

26:05 together we should totally do that we have never collabed on anything can we

26:11 find a reason to collab we can do like I'll build a PC and something let's F

26:16 and I'm I'm being honest I'm email you next week and we're gonna find something I've got I've got a couple ideas in that

26:20 department but you guys could do like a a like a if you did like a Tag Team

26:25 Battle of like destroying the new Apple product

26:28 oh you guys did like literally like a tag team match video where you like tag

26:34 each other in for different points and like we we have it like all edited and staged so it looks like an arena or

26:38 whatever and you guys just smash this thing we will find something I'm sure we

26:42 I that's just the first thing I like we can do a great debate and just like yeah

26:45 like yeah exactly I'd love to like rrap it or something yeah you know I don't

26:49 know where this is going but just YouTube I don't know if you're on the same team it'll have to go somewhere

26:54 against each other it'll have to I'm on board man I'm on board you guys have

26:58 like a a streamed coin flip like a week before and when you has to go on the

27:02 side of defending the watch oh

27:05 wow I we flip a coin you got use your

27:09 MacBook as your only computer for a week oh I've got a lot of people asking for

27:13 us to have you as as like a special celebrity guest on scrapyard Wars or

27:16 something like that that'd be super cool okay whatever it is we'll figure it out

27:20 and thank you for the kind words it means a lot coming from you cuz of

27:24 course man I've been following you forever since before I was like making

27:27 YouTube videos pretty much so thank you

27:31 thank you have a good rest of the uh the afternoon up there and hopefully I'll

27:34 get a chance to talk to you soon man later man bye guys all right so guys

27:39 that was uh oh well that's a wow really

27:43 bad at this thing I am basically the worst okay so thank you guys uh thank

27:48 you to John for joining us here on the WAN Show that was an absolute freaking

27:54 blast um I mean I don't know how much

27:57 more we have to say but what I will say is we definitely need to roll our intro

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28:45 so let's go ahead and we are going to do a little bit more Apple talk but not

28:51 much um they are lowering the price of

28:54 Apple TV and you know what I'm just going to I we we never did like Victoria

28:59 Secret did a great job of the post on the Forum we never gave a shout out to

29:04 him really good job of the Apple coverage y so you can basically check

29:08 out Victoria Secrets post on it and he's got it all like Tiddly organized with

29:13 like little spoiler tags and all that stuff um but there were a couple other

29:19 things in there that were really important so first of all we only talked

29:22 pricing for the entry level the 38 and 42 mm sport edition um so that's 349 and

29:28 399 did you post this in the thing uh no I didn't want to go ahead uh you can get

29:32 the stainless ones for between 550 to

29:35 1100 um and then starting at $10,000 for

29:39 Edition the Edition Edition which we didn't even we didn't even Ripon with

29:43 John the addition Edition the editioned

29:46 it's such a great Edition that it's called Edition it defines

29:50 Edition thank you unapologetically

29:54 addition that's a good that those are both pretty good lines

29:58 um 18-hour battery life according to 90

30:03 time checks 90 notifications 45 minutes of app use and 30 minutes of working out

30:07 with uh music playback per day so okay

30:11 that's the watch we got through that S1

30:15 processor Siri accelerometer blippity bloop okay so we got some MacBook stuff

30:20 we definitely talked MacBook it is beautiful I will give it that high

30:24 resolution can't remember it's like a 16 by10

30:28 something by 1440 2304 by 1440 because

30:32 whatever conventional resolutions screw those things uh here's the stupid

30:36 adapter so you can actually have a USB port and an HDMI out okay I I to you I

30:41 didn't have time to look at any of this stuff where how how do you plug in headphones so what are you an idiot

30:46 headphones is there just no I guess

30:49 you're actually I don't think it has one I think you're expected to use Bluetooth yeah really yeah um man that sucks yeah

30:56 what if I want to use like not Bluetooth no you're an idiot then

31:00 you're doing it wrong I don't like that yeah so so like no Thunderbolt is the

31:05 kicker to me here yeah that's super weird with with apple being the you know

31:09 they might have other versions of this breakout dongle though like they could

31:12 have something later on online where you can have normal headphones and Thunderbolt and something well type c is

31:18 not going to not going to carry Thunderbolt oh yeah so like

31:23 nope wow um so there's that like I

31:26 haven't looked at this at all I didn't know that was was type c I thought that

31:29 assuming knowing them I thought it was actually going to be Thunderbolt why is

31:33 it type c because their pants on head ridiculous that's so weird thanks yatsi

31:38 for that thing that I use all the time um Apple TV is now 69 bucks HBO is

31:42 coming with HBO now and the entire HBO catalog super cool wow how many cord how

31:48 many people are going to cut the cord if they don't need their HBO subscription

31:51 on cable uh to be able to get HBO I'd probably get that combo although I I'm

31:55 not a fan of a lot yeah so it's going to be exclusive to Apple at least for now

32:01 but at 69 bucks at 69 bucks the Apple TV

32:04 is a bargain I have one it's a good product if I could get HBO I'd if I

32:10 could get HBO now I'd get an Apple TV and even if even if you don't have

32:14 aren't invested in the Apple ecosystem like even if you're not going to cast

32:18 from your phone to your Apple TV or whatever else Apple TV is still a great

32:22 product even just for like streaming from like a home server or something

32:26 like your media collection netfli it's a little Netflix alth not as

32:31 good a Netflix as the upom NVIDIA Shield but then that's $200 so if you don't

32:35 need to do 4K Netflix then what about like steam link uh well okay so there's

32:40 there's a whole bunch of other reasons why you might want something other than

32:44 an Apple TV but for strictly media consumption Apple TV makes a ton of

32:47 sense especially at 70 bucks I'd really I would massively prefer steam link to

32:51 be completely honest but um at the same time steamlink would take up a computer

32:56 and doesn't have HBO now and it doesn't have HBO now but the thing is I can't

33:00 even get HBO now because HBO now is only us isn't it and they're like being super

33:05 strict about that aren't they yeah I'm not I'm not sure I hav't you Netflix is

33:09 like oh yeah well it's region locked but

33:12 uh it's pretty easy to get around like I think HBO now is being really

33:15 restrictive like uh credit card locations and like PayPal home addresses

33:20 and stuff like you can't sign up unless you have a payment option from that

33:25 region well I'll have to rely on uh the twitch chat to correct us on that but

33:29 yeah I don't know I I I hope it's not apparently there is a 3 and 12 mm port

33:33 on the other side there you go so if that if that's its own dedicated thing I

33:37 honestly don't think a lot of people are going need that breakout box so headphone jack USB 3 well you can't plug

33:41 in like a USB flash drive so period

33:45 unless you have a type-c flash drive and you're willing to unplug your power to

33:48 plug it in so it's like a lot of people are starting to use stuff like Dropbox

33:52 and drive super dumb though I I know I'm just saying I don't think it's going to

33:56 be as impactful all right all right everyone we got it we got it the

33:59 headphone jack is on the right I I have not done as much okay so I'm going to be

34:04 forthright with you guys I have done almost two videos per day this week of

34:10 my normal on my normal one video per day schedule so I am not we just filmed I am

34:15 not as prepped as I would normally be for w show we just filmed and it's not

34:19 even we did like all easy videos we did a Hardline build log over the last

34:23 couple days which is like a it looks

34:27 pretty sick it's pretty awesome it's really nice so so

34:32 whatever whatever what

34:36 whatever okay so let's go back to the uh let's go back okay I said that was the

34:40 last Apple thing no I actually have one more Apple thing you're just huge Apple

34:44 Fanboy also posted by Victoria Secret you want to go ahead and uh I think I

34:48 linked that one already in okay well whatever this is the uh this is the the

34:52 the amount of actual gold in the Apple watch and this is a great article on

34:58 lean crew.com and it talks about how who

35:01 should probably get their websites made by Squarespace yeah because it looks awful um we'll do sponsors later but um

35:08 okay so basically the way that a carrot works a lot of people don't know this

35:13 nope I didn't okay so so carrot for

35:16 Diamond refers to the weight the actual

35:19 like the weight of diamond now carrot is a measure of weight for gold but

35:24 actually refers to the percentage of

35:28 mass which colloquially we use weight and mass interchangeably here on Earth

35:32 since we're always going to be dealing with the same 9.8 m per second squared

35:37 of force from the earth which is going to allow the ma a given Mass to weigh a

35:42 given amount on Earth but of course it'll weigh something else somewhere

35:45 else so if I if I interchange mass and weight you know what screw off so

35:51 basically carrot is a measure of of of

35:54 of of weight or mass or whatever the case may be now with gold the 18 or the

36:00 24 Karat or the 10 karat or whatever doesn't actually refer to the entire

36:06 mass or weight of the item it refers to the percentage of the total

36:11 volume volume of the item that is gold

36:16 now normally when you make an 18 karat gold something or other whether it's a

36:20 watcher ring or whatever else you would mix the gold with another metal in an

36:24 alloy such as silver a much less expensive metal because this does two

36:28 things number one is it reduces the cost and number two is it actually makes the

36:34 gold usable pure gold is so malleable it

36:38 would be Kat I think is 100% I'm not sure I think 24 is still an alloy pure

36:43 pure I I forget what it for silver it's Troy whatever the equivalent is pure

36:47 gold like 99.9% gold would be pretty much unusable for jewelry it would

36:52 scratch all over the place it would be heavier it would actually be heavier

36:56 than than something that's alloyed with something else and is just totally

37:00 impractical on top of being more expensive now normally you would alloy

37:04 it with a metal what Apple has done is they have found a way to kind of create

37:09 like a ceramic gold mixture instead of a metal

37:13 metal alloy so what this has done is a couple of things it actually has some

37:17 positive effect so positive effect number one is that it makes it more

37:21 scratch resistant positive effect number two is that it makes it lighter um and I

37:28 guess well that's prettyy much it positive effect number three for Apple

37:31 not necessarily for you is that it makes it cheaper because 1 cubic cm and this

37:37 is from the article of regular 18 karat gold so the amount required to make a

37:42 watch cubic cm of 18 karat gold contains

37:46 11.7 G of actual gold 1 cubic cim of

37:51 Apple's 18 karat gold contains 5.43 G of

37:55 actual gold less than half the amount

37:59 and this is because carrot is the percentage of the material by oh sorry

38:05 did I say by volume I think it's by mass okay whatever anyway it's the percentage

38:08 of it takes up a bigger volume blah blah same weight ratio yeah so so percentage

38:12 by mass is carrot and because the ceramic is so much lighter than silver

38:18 the volume is high but the amount of gold in it is low but the carrot is high

38:23 because the ceramic is less dense and lighter they should use arog gem

38:28 well anyway the point is your Apple watch contains less than half as much

38:34 actual gold as a regular 18 karat gold

38:37 time piece would be so personally I'm

38:42 not going to get all pissed off over this it doesn't make sense to me to be

38:46 all mad because apple found you're not going to buy it anyways I'm not going to buy it anyways so that that's a thing

38:50 but I'm also I wouldn't be upset anyway because apple is effectively delivering

38:54 what they're saying they're delivering and they are making it more scratch

38:58 resistant and harder which is which is good if I'm investing in something like

39:02 a watch that I expect to you know have for 50 years except that it's an Apple

39:07 Watch so I won't whacking it against a door by accident or I'll be carrying

39:10 something and it'll grab it or whatever yeah I'll probably be thankful at some

39:14 point that it's more durable yeah

39:17 but someone's like lonus I came here for Tech talk I don't understand not mineral

39:22 talk I don't understand okay well don't don't worry too much about that the

39:26 point is the Apple watch doesn't have as much gold as you probably thought it did

39:30 not that you cared cuz you weren't going to uh you weren't going to buy it anyway

39:34 I certainly wasn't all right so I guess that's that's pretty much it should we

39:38 move on to some actual Tech here let's talk AVG working on awesome working on

39:45 identity like protection glasses that

39:48 like have an invisible like field that

39:51 they put in front of your face to make it more difficult for face recognition

39:55 to recognize you It's Not Invisible field well it's invisible to the naked

39:59 eye but it's not a it's not a field whatever you're not a field it's not

40:03 even close to how it works here's a picture oh my goodness you want to talk

40:07 about what's going on here so when it when it detects like a flash or a camera

40:11 taking a photo it will it'll do the thing on the right they already have

40:14 clothes that do this the material is covered in it so when you take a photo

40:18 of it it glows like crazy and kind of pulls the light there instead of

40:21 everywhere else and makes it look like there there's a darker Zone around it so

40:25 it's very hard if you saw the dude on the

40:28 right he looks a lot like the dude on the left yeah but with 100% certainty

40:34 it's a guy with a beard and especially for software where it's going to be

40:38 designed to pick up landmarks on your

40:41 face and then compare against something else these are going to be a real bear

40:46 for those to deal with for sure now to be clear this is not technology that is

40:52 available in a commercial product yet by any stretch of the imagination uh on the

40:56 clothes I think it is just not in the glasses yeah so so uh what what are what

41:00 are we what are we calling it so infrared lights and retrolective materials on the surface of the glasses

41:05 return the flash of the camera and infrared lights obscure your face in a

41:09 photo since cameras pick it up but human eyes do not so much like um the night

41:15 mode on your you know your camcorder from the 80s or whatever most things

41:19 don't have a night mode these days where they have an infrared lamp that

41:23 illuminates the scene these will have an infrared lamp that goes right in the

41:26 camera Center and basically makes the image a complete mess yeah super cool

41:32 and AVG figures this is an important step towards um for an important step

41:38 due to evolving Technologies like Facebook's deep face technology which is

41:42 an improved system for identifying faces I'd buy glasses that had these on it and

41:46 and that's that is a very good point because I wouldn't go and buy these

41:50 glasses I don't want those glasses no but if Pearl Vision or whatever had you

41:56 know oh it's an X doll Adder it's 30 bucks for the face recognition love that

42:03 they love that if you can have some little Adder whatever like oh it's only

42:07 this much more glasses are a big investment you might as well just do

42:11 it they're right A lot of the time exactly that's I don't know glasses

42:14 places don't have to be that pushy because they're like yeah this is actually like kind of a really good idea

42:19 you're not going to buy another pair for really long time you know how much money

42:22 my parents saved getting flexon frames for my little brother when he was like

42:27 eight yeah probably tons people have broken those glasses so many times and

42:30 it's a it's a little Adder so they make a little bit more money 50 bucks or 75

42:34 bucks or whatever anyway yeah um speaking of making another 50 bucks here

42:39 another 75 bucks there um AMD Microsoft

42:44 and Sony and Nintendo are all going to

42:47 be pretty happy as China has finally

42:52 lifted its ban on game console sales BR

42:55 is going to get wrecked sorry what said COD Bros are going to get wrecked it is

42:59 uh I mean all it's not like Chinese people weren't finding ways to buy

43:03 consoles it's estimated that I forget who this is from but someone that an

43:08 article I was reading so don't don't quote me on it estimated that a million

43:11 game consoles are sold in China every year even with the ban but then we're

43:16 talking China with like over a billion people a million a year is nothing this

43:22 is going to be huge for anyone involved

43:27 in in selling game consoles I mean this could be a huge shot of adrenaline for

43:33 all of the aforementioned companies and AMD is a big one here because for

43:37 absolutely no extra R&D and sure it's at

43:41 their contract price which I'm sure is very you know Thrifty for Microsoft Sony

43:46 and Nintendo given that AMD won all of the bids against their rival NVIDIA yeah

43:51 um but it's a nice little shot in the ARM for AMD because they get to move a

43:55 bunch of volume of the chips that are powering all of the current gen consoles

43:59 yeah that's awesome it's almost completely untapped opportunity over

44:04 there sales bands on stuff like this are just stupid anyways so so it's it's nice

44:09 to see China's sort of going oh well I guess there's PC games too I guess we're

44:13 doing absolutely nothing to prevent people from playing games if that's the

44:17 objective I guess the sort of the goal of getting everyone to make every all

44:21 their consoles completely in China and I think it was even restricted to was what

44:24 was it like one region they wanted them to put all the fact I remember like

44:28 there was we had some discussion about this before um so blah blah blah okay

44:33 you know what forget it let's just let that business happen and uh

44:37 awesome here's just kind of a this is a very this is a very quick one original

44:41 article here is from The Verge I just thought this was uh this was kind of

44:45 interesting I have input on this we'll see where this goes all right so uh

44:49 Facebook did you post this in the twitch chat I'm working on it awesome it's

44:53 almost like we know how to run this show now almost almost Maybe in a couple more

44:57 years we're not quite there yet yeah can you believe W Show's been a thing for

45:01 like really old years now like three years I know I remember before the

45:05 company started didn't it I uh not as W

45:09 show but the live stream did yeah yeah so the live stream is almost three years

45:13 old I think like two and a half years old now you've been on the live stream

45:17 for well over two years now um okay so

45:21 Facebook removes the feeling fat emoon

45:25 under pressure from on online activist

45:28 so you can see there's kind of an online protest going on here uh fat is not a

45:33 feeling hasag thumbs down Facebook I

45:38 have an easy solution to this do you want to go first though uh but no you do

45:43 your solution first why didn't they just change it to feeling bloated cuz

45:47 sometimes I'm feeling bloated okay mine ties into this very well we had MTO

45:52 burritos yeah I was feeling kind of fat

45:55 I guess bloated yeah like whatever we I mean Luke and I each ate burritos it's

46:00 amazing this room is not a veritable gas chamber right now I've been holding it

46:05 in so okay that's good let's both do

46:08 that working on that let's keep doing that we both ate burritos that are like

46:13 like the size of a small mammal yeah you

46:16 know and like like a fairly Hefty small M full of beans and cheese and meat and

46:21 like did we do we get exactly the same burrito yes you just tell Nick to get

46:26 whatever I get don't you yeah for the okay cuz he never it's a good burrito

46:30 well okay he never told I just told him like get something with chicken and then

46:33 I remember hearing him go through every possible ingredient with you and you

46:36 like speced it out and I'm like okay well that's probably going to be better

46:39 so I was what I'm too lazy can figure my own and then it showed up and I was like

46:44 yeah it's better so I just I have that one it's

46:48 like we have a mind meld for food because I went to a restaurant with him

46:53 where like I actually tried we always ordered the same thing like one of us

46:58 orders whoever's familiar orders and then whoever's not familiar just gets

47:01 the same thing and I tried I went through the menu and I picked two things

47:06 and I was like okay Luke I can't decide on these two which one should I get and

47:09 he goes those are the two I always get and I just rotate every time CU I

47:14 don't really know which one I like more fantastic terrible anyways yeah I

47:21 don't know I I really don't think this was a malicious thing and like okay one thing

47:26 that I thought was too is they're going after that but I'm feeling ugly is still

47:30 an option and to me okay I'm probably

47:34 going to offend someone because # fattis

47:37 not a feeling is definitely valid fat is a state of being but not a feeling it

47:42 should have been bloated it should have been bloated for one thing feeling ugly

47:47 is something that a far greater

47:50 percentage of people are going to have a

47:54 lesser degree of control over

47:57 than their body fat percentage Yeah and

48:00 I'm just going to leave it at that feeling ugly to me should be much more

48:05 offensive than feeling fat and the fight was over feeling fat not feeling ugly

48:09 and feeling ugly is still on there and ugly is definitely not a feeling unless

48:14 it's a self-esteem concern and like I I can

48:18 kind of get like there's probably better term for it again like I was with

48:21 bloated feeling disheveled yes there you go like oh I I just got back from

48:27 tough muttered yeah and I and I look dead and there's dirt all over me and

48:31 I'm just gross I really need a shower and I need a catnap cuz I'm looking

48:36 disgusting yeah and like that's that's what it means and I hope we all

48:40 understand that but but if we're going to say okay no the actual definition of

48:44 the word from dictionary.com is the only thing that matters then feeling ugly is

48:49 a lot more offensive to me makes way more sense or or maybe even something

48:53 else I'd be fine with the shovel maybe it's just because like

48:57 okay you know what never mind uh Apple's research kit did in 24 hours what would

49:01 normally take 50 medical centers a year

49:05 this is pretty cool and this is something that we glossed over a little

49:08 bit when we had John rer on because this was a really really like like

49:12 groundbreakingly cool announcement from the Apple press conference um do you

49:17 want to run through this while I scroll through the thing here I don't know enough about it again I didn't have

49:20 enough time I'll I'll I'll go over a little bit basically it's really

49:24 expensive to run research programs you have to get a whole bunch bunch of institutes onl expensive you have to try

49:29 and get people to volunteer or pay them how are you going to get people to volunteer I would never volunteer for a

49:33 medical experiment man it's sketchy right even a survey they call me up I'm

49:37 like I don't have time for this whatever yeah so they're moving that away from

49:41 these giant multi-million dollar projects to oh well you can just kind of

49:46 do it on your phone and it'll track things potentially automatically and

49:49 like you don't really have to worry about it you just tap these two things it'll it'll track your workout schedules

49:54 it'll track whatever it tells you things like the condition the air in the region

49:58 you're in right now oh there's a lot of big particles a lot of small particles a

50:01 lot of this Dippity bloop it gives you your like your heart age it tracks your

50:05 movement I mean that's a big problem uh this is a great this is a great quote

50:09 people will people will say things incorrectly they'll lie to their doctors

50:12 and the iPhone can be like actually they were physical for this long this week

50:16 which is say 3 hours instead of the 16 that they reported yeah and and this so

50:22 aside from inaccuracy being a major problem the cost so so uh this is from

50:27 the 9to5mac.com article apparently and this blew me away a typical Parkinson's

50:32 research study with 800 participants over five years could cost $60 million

50:39 keeping track of them all taking care of everybody the Parkinson's app had

50:45 5,589 participants as of the morning of March 10th Tuesday I mean the kind of

50:50 data is the data perfect no is it better

50:54 than asking someone like me who I couldn't even tell you what my last meal

50:59 was before the burrito the only reason I remember I ate a burrito was that I can

51:02 still taste it in my mouth every time I burp like I I don't remember that stuff

51:06 if you're like oh how many hours did you work out this week I'd be

51:10 like six is that right is that like what you

51:15 want to hear I I don't know um so and I

51:18 know not everyone's as bad as me but the point is if it's just on your phone

51:22 something people habitually carry anyway that's freaking awesome and and already

51:28 like Stanford has piped up saying that this is this is Meaningful and helpful

51:33 and they're not exactly a a disreputable

51:36 Source on uh on that kind of on that kind of stuff so I'm super excited I

51:40 wish I had an option to do this on so cool and I don't um I mean I'm sure

51:45 Android's going to clone it so there's that will they though probably

51:50 eventually it might take a while yeah yeah I mean is there anything the iPhone

51:53 had at launch that an Android phone doesn't do now let's look at it that way

51:57 that's been a long time what would Google give to have all this data but

52:00 Google seems to be going a different direction okay

52:04 yes winner you just got Trump carded fool

52:09 Google wants the data fool Google wants the data I can't say anything against

52:14 Google wanting more data just instantly lose that argument yep that was that was

52:18 never an argument you know what sometimes we have arguments on this show

52:21 where I'm like he's going to win this one or he might win this one but we were

52:26 going we were going I was holding that trump card I was holding that trump card

52:30 yeah I was ready to play that Trump C someone asked me when when I was doing

52:33 the like TR okay one thing that people don't seem to understand there's a few

52:36 things that like blow my mind that people don't understand one all the

52:40 people that I was trolling at PAX East definitely knew who I was every single

52:45 person in that video that one was awesome the the guy that trolled me yeah

52:48 that was fantastic um every single one of those guys in that video or ores uh

52:53 approached me and like said hi and wanted

52:57 that was the idea that was the whole idea is I was like when Luke and I were

53:00 planning this we were like okay how do we pick people to troll and it was

53:05 anyone who walks up to Luke is going to get trolled that's how it worked I would

53:09 preface it I would be like I'm going to be a dick this is going to suck it's not

53:14 going to be great I I I told them honestly I want you to attack me I want

53:18 you to throw back everyone was way too nice they went for it cuz you were like

53:22 you were like because you get to be an Alli detected video and they're like

53:25 yeah man and I'm like you don't understand and then you were just like a

53:28 jerk I didn't think you had it in you I it took a little bit I didn't think you

53:32 had it in there there's a few interviews in there that didn't actually make it better are in the very beginning cuz I

53:36 was being too nice and I had to be like okay and the thing is what you don't see

53:39 is after every one of those interviews where I'm like we get to not a proper

53:43 end but I'm just like okay I have to stop I'm like I can't do this anymore

53:46 and I'd like apologize and shake their hands and I'd hang out with everybody

53:50 afterwards and just talk and talk about the like actual conversation instead of

53:54 this just trolly rant and then like it was it was actually a lot more friendly

53:58 than it appeared um I don't remember where I was going with this right but

54:02 the reason why I was so good at that was because of this oh sitting and talking

54:07 to me all day 100% because I'll have to Devil's Advocate something and I'll

54:11 believe in it not at all but like to make the conversation interesting I'll

54:16 have to just start throwing things in the air so that you can defend them or

54:20 I'll have to defend something cuz you'll be throwing things in the air and like

54:23 it it made it so that I could more on the spot come with things oh man which

54:28 is hilarious but yeah the whole time I've seing there I'm like this is very

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56:03 and aside from that Squarespace is a

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56:12 you know I'm not going to say too much about it other than this I'm going to

56:16 read this I really enjoyed using Squarespace and understand how they

56:21 lonus and Luke recommend it time and time again I'm not sponsored and I will

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56:36 still want to make this the best I can I don't know if anyone in LMG will see

56:39 this we did yeah yo man but you guys are always talking about showing a viewer

56:44 Squarespace site on the W show and I would honestly be honored it would help me a lot because I know there's a lot of

56:48 viewers in Portland and whatnot the point of this was not to be an ad but if

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56:55 remembered that he wrote that so we'll just leave that open we'll ignore that

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57:01 conduct something yeah code of conduct on the form

57:05 whatever all right so here's Simon pdx.com and there you go tech

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57:16 you click it it's responsive design so it's going to work on a phone it's going

57:19 to work on whatever else you he didn't use the Getty Images thing where you can

57:23 like get better images but other than the images not being like necessarily

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60:31 we've done all of our all of our sponsor stuff they're all they're all good folks

60:36 all of those guys are some of the longest term sponsors we've had MH and

60:40 like wow guys yeah they've all supported the W show for a really long time which

60:44 is Prett cool that's awesome cuz like w show is a cool program people should

60:48 support it and watch it all right speaking of uh people support speaking

60:53 of support valve was given an F in customer service by the Better Business

60:58 Bureau and is this surprising all

61:02 is awesome the awesome thing about this is

61:06 not that valve got an F that's not the

61:11 awesome part that is the completely expected part yes um so this is the

61:16 original article here is from Kotaku and it's actually a pretty it's a pretty fun

61:20 read but the best part is this response

61:24 from valve Business Development Eric

61:27 Johnson valve doesn't really consider

61:30 the Better Business Bureau a priority

61:33 the BBB is far less useful proxy for

61:36 customer issues than Reddit we don't use them for much they don't provide us as

61:42 use uh something as useful of data as customers emailing us posting on Reddit

61:47 posting on Twitter and so

61:50 on what your crap BBB rating is for the

61:57 717 complaints that were filed against the business and the failure to respond

62:03 to 52 of them talking about how you know

62:07 oh Twitter and Reddit are better all that means is you're not paying

62:12 attention unless it's posted in public that is [ __ ] yeah that is nonsense

62:17 valve support is terrible crap that is

62:20 basically valve saying we don't care because it wasn't posted in public that

62:25 was why we didn't bother to respond shame on you valve we love valve as much

62:30 as anyone but that response was awful

62:34 that was the worst thing valve could have said steam is fantastic but if

62:38 you've ever had a problem with anything to do with your Steam account you know

62:42 the like odd kind of gross taste in the back of your mouth every time that you

62:46 worry anything is going wrong with your Steam account because you're screwed the

62:51 chance of getting a response even through steam's it comes eventually I

62:55 always get one like a month later but it's slow like I've actually had them

62:59 weeks later and I'm like dude I'm a paying customer I have hundreds of games

63:03 I am very much a paying customer I've used your service a lot and the fact

63:08 that I can't get help at all for weeks is insane yep and the fact that you have

63:12 enough money to invest in customer service I mean it's one thing you know

63:16 we can talk about like we we we griped about one plus but when we griped about

63:21 oneplus's customer service we griped about their business model and there

63:25 that their business model that we should have all seen this coming because

63:28 they're selling a phone at no margin how were they possibly going to support it

63:32 with valve they they can use some of their hat money to support their

63:36 customers I don't think that that should be an issue so that's the problem we we

63:42 love steam steam is fantastic valve is

63:45 great their customer support is absolute garbage but they're great um we ha EA

63:50 and they're garbage but their support is

63:53 fantastic yeah if you to be clear their policies are garbage

64:00 like the fact that we had to contact their support to get more activations

64:05 for a game that is DRM through their

64:10 client the fact that we had to get more activations in order to change Hardware

64:14 configs on it is rubbish but the fact that they dealt with it really quickly

64:20 and were super nice about it and the guy was like oh sorry we're going to upgrade

64:24 the I could talk to someone you have yeah it was on the phone the

64:28 deluxe edition or whatever y said sorry for the trouble here's the digital

64:32 deluxe version they did write by us yeah

64:35 whereas Val after the phone call I was like all right that was actually kind it took a little while but a little while

64:40 was like an hour instead of like two or three weeks that's right which is a huge

64:44 difference because I was able to just put my phone on speaker and just do

64:48 whatever on my computer and wait until they like I'm okay waiting on hold as

64:52 long as someone's going to deal with it at some point here yeah and they were all super nice I there's two different

64:56 people that talked to on the phone they're both super the the first lady was like uh this is way above me I've

65:01 never even heard of activation issues before yeah I'm just going to move you

65:05 on immediately and then the dude after that was like oh yeah we don't usually

65:08 run into this but I don't know I can okay done so basically shame on you

65:13 valve for not caring and I've got people in twitch chat saying oh the BBB is crap

65:18 because they can't get companies to do stuff while companies like valve not

65:22 giving a crap about their BBB rating is

65:25 the only reason the BBB wouldn't be able to do something through them because

65:30 like basically that's what a BBB rating means it means that that company did

65:35 crap when the BBB contacted them because I worked at NC and NC has a good Better

65:40 Business Bureau rating because when a BBB complaint comes in it was like it

65:44 got escalated immediately that is how a

65:47 BBB complaint should be treated it shouldn't have to be public yeah in

65:51 order for it's something to get escalated and dealt with that's wrong

65:55 that's a completely wrong wrong Outlook

65:59 so yeah um all right let's move on to this uh this tech report article Scott

66:05 Lawson and those tech report mad

66:08 scientists those guys they were

66:11 determined for science to kill half a

66:16 dozen ssds so they had a Corsair Neutron

66:19 GTX an Intel 335 series a Samsung 840

66:23 series an 840 Pro and two Kingston hyperx 3K 240 gigs actually they're all

66:30 240 to 256 class drives and what they

66:34 did was they set them up on a test bench

66:37 to run uh over and over and over again

66:42 Anvil's just random data right 10 tbte

66:46 right thing so basically the idea was um

66:50 they were going to kind of go okay well you know hey these drives are rated at X

66:54 number of X number of terabytes according to the resiliency of The Flash

66:59 and well let's see how far they go so

67:03 let's um let's drop in on the on the finished graph here this is a really

67:06 cool article the coolest thing about this is that it

67:10 took um 18 months to wear out the ssds

67:16 literally writing to them constantly so

67:19 let's go ahead and uh I'm not sure if I'm actually looking at the right one

67:24 casualties on the way oh here we go I was looking at the original the original

67:29 article there so that showed all the ssds this one has a really great summary

67:33 they did such a good job of this and the point of this wasn't which one of these

67:38 SSD e to buy in fact many of these are

67:41 not even that great options by today's standards because they're it's from 18

67:45 months ago can you even buy all of them no no um the point of this and you guys

67:50 should definitely check it out on the tech report podcast uh later on if you

67:54 want to hear them really talk about all the analytics but the point of this was

67:58 are ssds reliable can we can we count on

68:03 them or should we treat them like uh some hard drive makers particularly at

68:08 the beginning when they were feeling very threatened by SSD we're treating

68:11 them like oh they have this like countdown timer it's like um crap what's

68:16 that status in Final Fantasy 6 where you have a timer on you and when it counts

68:21 down Doom gets cast condemned yeah condemned like the that was how we were

68:26 expected to look at ssds and in reality um maybe not so these are the

68:31 ones that failed first you can see the Intel

68:34 335 had no reallocated sectors up to

68:39 700 terabytes and the only reason that one failed was actually because Intel

68:44 Builds an countdown timer that says okay

68:47 we don't trust this flash anymore this is such an Intel thing to do like you're

68:51 Way Beyond what this drive was supposed to do we don't trust that like you're

68:54 beyond what we said it would do into what we think feasibly it can't do any

68:59 more than this or like at least not reliably like we think they can all get

69:02 here it's such an Intel thing to do it turns off it goes into readon mode so

69:07 you can pull all the data off it then it breaks itself so like that's cool I'm actually

69:14 okay with that to be honest I'm mostly okay with that because a lot of users

69:17 wouldn't know how to deal with reallocated sectors or or dis rers okay

69:21 so reallocated sectors and the failure of a like hard drivve spitting out for

69:25 the last time and SSD frying off are

69:29 very different so the first one uh was I

69:33 think what was it 100 yeah 100 at 100

69:36 terabytes started having to reallocate

69:39 sectors and this is a TLC TLC nand drive so that's the 840 but

69:46 didn't actually start to Output to Output errors until around 900 terabytes

69:53 okay the I think the first one did I was the int all right and the second one was

69:56 one of the hyperx 3ks it looks like uh

70:00 and that one made it to 800 tabt yeah um

70:04 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah at least the data was still if the

70:09 hyperx didn't respond after a reboot and Kingston said the drive won't boot if

70:13 its nand Reserve has been exhausted all right the next one was for the 840

70:17 series um the neutron GTX didn't

70:21 actually reallocate any sectors until Suddenly at 1.1 pte

70:27 it finally was like it spat out a bunch of errors and died and then there were

70:31 the two that lasted and these ones both

70:35 went past two pedabytes so the hyperx um

70:40 right here yeah Kingston hyperx 3K 240 gig so

70:45 they were able to compress a lot of the rights which actually helps with nand uh

70:49 I'm going to pause for one second a lot of people in the twitch chat don't

70:53 understand what the Intel thing did I recommend going actually reading the

70:56 website a lot of you are saying misinformation yeah a huge amount of

71:00 people in the twitch chat don't get it so yeah you guys do need to you do need

71:05 to understand that um check out the reports article so anyway the point is ssds are not as

71:12 fragile as we thought they were even TLC ssds are able to handle way more than we

71:17 thought they were able to and it's six is still a small sample size but every

71:22 single one of those six was able to last well beyond beond its expected life and

71:28 well beyond what any normal consumer would possibly be able to do to this

71:32 drive within its reasonable lifespan so I thought that was just a super cool

71:37 article from the tech report and I'm amazed I think it's so cool that they

71:40 stuck with it for 18 months yeah that's actually really cool I think that's just

71:44 awesome I'm happy there wasn't any like catastrophic issues that I actually have

71:47 an idea for a similar long-term test that I want to do had I talked to you

71:51 about this I don't think so I want to do um push uh or or um positive pressure

71:57 versus negative pressure versus even air flow in and out and dust filters and

72:04 then see after like a year or two years which one's actually the

72:10 dustiest real world man interesting

72:13 which I think would be pretty cool we could definitely do that in new office there would be space we need to sponsor

72:17 for like case and like fans and then we could just put some like old

72:20 motherboards in it or whatever like it wouldn't have to yeah be like even

72:23 working Hardware yeah want to see how dusty it gets y all right um what else

72:29 we got on the show today we don't have much time cuz we got to take off out of

72:32 here to uh to go film Channel Super Fun we're going to do drone racing in the

72:35 new Warehouse which is going to be awesome it's be interesting drones won't

72:38 last that long hopefully it uh hopefully it works well oh yeah I just saw that

72:43 too oh you guys need to see this we

72:47 finally have a new T-shirt design and I

72:50 think this might be the best one yet this was made by Jack sack the guy who

72:54 does a lot of the fan art based on the W show um and I I I really I I love this

73:01 design I absolutely love it so it what

73:04 what just happened responsive design man yes Teespring needs to use squar space

73:09 or something all right so this is the

73:13 like oh man how okay well there you can that works kind of see it better over

73:17 there there's there's the design are you hardcore do you stay up late this is the

73:24 shirt for you I should get this shirt and then do another 24-hour charity

73:28 stream absolutely absolutely uh so this

73:32 is over on uh teespring.com

73:35 SFP for uh apparently it's iie not the

73:38 site people are like people are like is

73:42 are we vulgar what do you mean vulgar how we there's a cat we're talking about

73:46 the cat on his head sleep sleeping cat why what were you thinking the cat is

73:51 asleep therefore and he's drinking he's drinking LT do y and uh yeah so I I love

73:59 this design I'm definitely getting a hoodie for this one I that's my that's

74:03 my thing is I just buy hoodies for all of them now really so yeah I'm going to have the hoodie collection I've got the

74:08 Highlander hoodie I've got the keep on digging hoodie and wish the high I'm

74:12 pretty cheesed that I didn't that was like yeah you fa we still have the art

74:16 asset for that right yeah might like ghetto make you could still you could still ghetto make one but mine will be

74:21 original so yeah I'll always be a little better my favorite when I wear it uh

74:26 t-shirt of ours it looks really good it does it looks really good I don't know

74:30 why I don't know why it is that wearing like Corsair Intel and ASUS logos feel

74:34 so good and like that shirt the design Highlander and the mountain and stuff it

74:38 looks sick we still got to figure out what we're going to do yeah we got to do

74:42 like some kind of like new world record attempt or something like that for this

74:46 year no idea what that's going to look like but U I still want to do

74:51 like like Link cable Pokemon battle

74:54 while sky

74:57 diving or something I don't know are you

75:01 high I don't know Lander oh you were at

75:05 one point this is potentially very cool news uh Media Tech to license AMD

75:12 Graphics

75:15 what it's almost like they want to be a snap dragon competitor AMD knows a thing

75:21 or two although you wouldn't know it from their Flagship desktop parts about

75:25 power efficiency and Graphics although you would know that they know a thing or

75:29 two about Graphics it's the power efficiency that I was kind of ribbing them about um AMD knows a thing or two

75:34 about Graphics mediat Tech's CPUs are getting a lot better than they used to

75:39 be interesting so it could be Qualcomm

75:42 plus Qualcomm CPU GPU Intel plus Intel

75:46 mediatech plus AMD that could make for

75:49 like think about this because remember mediat Tech's high-end is not

75:53 necessarily going to go Toe to Toe with int or qualcomm's highend we don't have

75:56 to but this could be a mid-range part that kicks butt and is a great value

76:02 that could be really cool I am super stoked to see uh what new developments

76:06 come out of this story right here yeah um also this apparently the original

76:11 that was posted by op code on the form oh I'm really sorry if there's people

76:14 who have been forgetting you want to go back do you want to go back and just

76:18 just do a round of that all right that'll take me a sec this one was

76:21 posted by CM 2546 and I'm going to run

76:24 through this while Luke compiles the names there um so originally Tom's

76:29 Hardware posted an article claiming to have an inside source at Microsoft saying that NVIDIA Nam the multi-GPU

76:34 configurations would be possible so um

76:38 blah blah blah was talking to a Microsoft rep will blah blah blah Etc

76:42 between NVIDIA and Intel I mean AMD sorry hello upon checking it will

76:45 support multi-GPU configurations between NVIDIA and AMD directx12 now since then

76:50 there have actually been articles written with this post from cm25 46 as

76:56 the source but I don't I don't know if

77:01 maybe that rep was just confirming that NVIDIA and AMD graphics cards would work

77:06 in the same system in much the same way that they already do today or if they

77:11 would actually be able to render part of

77:15 a frame and render another part of a frame and actually work together because I can assure you guys that if NVIDIA has

77:21 any say in it that will not work yeah

77:25 yeah yeah like to to actually use both

77:28 of them you can't even install NVIDIA drivers while you have uh CCC running

77:34 yeah I mean you can install it and then restart and CCC can run yeah you can

77:39 kill CCC and then install the NVIDIA driver and then yeah launch it again or

77:43 whatever but like but if a if NVIDIA can do anything to make that not work they

77:49 will that's and I'm pretty freaking sure they could I'm pretty sure that they can

77:55 there's that where is my twitch chat why am I in what is going on here I thought

78:01 I had uh learned a computer yeah there it is okay so um wait did I not I I

78:07 never posted the uh the Teespring campaign okay well I'll do that after in

78:10 the meantime there's a YouTube video uh that we did this was this was awesome I

78:15 like barely slept that week speaking of the sleep is for [ __ ] t-shirt um

78:20 YouTube video that um I did where I had

78:23 SLI and Crossfire running

78:28 at at the and is rumed to aure of direct

78:32 X2 but uh you could have them both in the same PC and you could switch between

78:36 them no problem I will be very surprised

78:39 if um if that's ever if that's ever could

78:45 easily do uh essentially always on DRM

78:48 where it checks for CCC more often than just on the installer yep yeah and I

78:53 mean you look at how hard NVIDIA has worked to block fizx from being used on

78:58 like even if you're willing to buy both and put them in the system they're like

79:02 nope jpeg yeah forget it bro so uh quick

79:06 like shout out round we've got Victoria Secret exilair op Code Zero mind red

79:12 round two joners aing big stuns Zer best

79:16 Zer you tried bro Zer is best XR YZ best

79:22 and CM 2546 okay um I guess oh the FC oh

79:27 this is cool uh end Gadget article I'm not going to talk about this for long

79:30 but um uh FCC released their 400 page

79:34 document so the whole Republican it's a

79:38 document nobody can see so I wish I could tell you about how horrible it is

79:42 but I can't well they released it after it was voted in or whatever didn't they

79:46 so it's still but it's not like we're not able to see it and it's not like

79:51 we're not able to get all mad yes if it's bad now yeah I mean yeah yeah so so

79:58 there's that did you post this already uh the FCC thing no all right I'm just

80:02 I'm blasting my way through the last few um no we don't the whole idea of rapid

80:07 fire is that we don't technically have to do all of them that was why we created oh no I'm just seeing if there's

80:11 any that I think are interesting there's a new Chromebook Pixel whatever the Star

80:14 Citizen client is rumored to be around 100 gigs cool which hopefully H is more

80:19 than just uncompressed Titanfall textures yeah um and I think that's

80:23 pretty much it thank for tuning into the W show no after party today cuz we have

80:27 to go race drones around in an empty Warehouse um and uh last week will be my

80:33 last week on W show for last yeah next

80:36 week will be my last week on W show for three weeks I and going to

80:42 Malaysia Singapore Thailand brunai and

80:47 Japan I'm gone for three weeks two weeks

80:51 of which is a family trip um we're going to see my wife's relatives who are are

80:55 scattered all over southeast Asia and then the last sort of 5 days of which is

81:00 going to be a trip to Japan to check out the Omron Factory so we're going to be

81:04 doing another factory tour which is extremely exciting we might have a w

81:07 show it might be two two only because

81:11 the third one would be when we're in Japan right we might try to do W I might

81:14 only I might only be gone two weeks then I really want to do W from Japan W from

81:18 Japan I really want to get that done okay it just sounds awesome we'll

81:23 try I heard they have good internet there so be from Japan all right just

81:28 thank you for tuning in all 7,000 of you we had an unbelievable show today it's

81:33 awesome especially because the time zone changes and everything people showed up I think it was that awesome guest I

81:38 think did you see the audience figures while John was on I did yes yeah he we

81:43 should have him more often I said this last time I was like we should bring him

81:46 on I was like we should bring him on right away it's been over a year wow that's actually pretty crazy

81:52 yeah we should get we should get him hooked up for the video collaboration we

81:55 got we got to do something although someone else I'm not going to say who

81:59 but someone else has already called dibs on the first celebrity guest so we are

82:03 already planning scrapyard Wars round two and we already have a celebrity

82:08 guest lined up who is going to be familiar to a lot of you guys and is

82:12 going to be a lot of fun so uh thanks for watching R show guys we will see you

82:16 again next week same bat Time same bat Channel see you oh right I never posted

82:20 the uh the shirt the sleepers for [ __ ] shirt oh my God the shirt you guys

82:24 should definitely go check out the shirt it's a Teespring campaign so it's only

82:27 available for a limited amount of time etc etc by now while quantities last

82:32 this a limited edition design it's fantastic or you'll never have it and

82:36 your friends will rub it in your face all day like the Highlander

82:40 hoodie oh I'm sad maybe I heart

82:46 got I've got people speculating that it'll be Jennifer

82:52 Lawrence Luke clone Tim

82:57 Cook Austin Evans nipple specif just the

83:00 nipple just the nipple Linda

83:04 docon

83:08 Squarespace Dollar Shave Club