The WAN Show - eSports in the Olympics?? GTA V PC is Delayed! - Jan 16, 2015
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2015-05-07
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uh we had a couple of complications before the show but you guys aren't
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gonna concern yourselves with that so let's get uh a rousing chorus of
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ah they're late in the uh twitch chat and we can all get it out of our system
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line is later late Linus or whatever i don't remember they say something
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they're probably saying it right now they're probably saying it right now so it would be helpful if we actually
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looked at that you're kind of cut off if i kind of scooched over a little bit
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would that help i didn't really scooch i just want to sit closer to him
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so let's go ahead and have a look at what our topics are for the day
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it's actually a surprisingly jam-packed show so it's unfortunate that we weren't
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able to get started on time we had to replace the batteries in the microphone
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um i realized right before the show normally we leave everything all set up
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so that we can get things going pretty quickly and i was like oh yeah
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our last wen show was in vegas we took
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our streaming gear to vegas it's not set up so we had to
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get everything all set back up again but uh other than that we are pretty much
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ready to rock here so some uh some sort of top topics today
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microsoft and google are scrapping over
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patch fixing policies and sort of you
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know airing dirty laundry in public about each other's bug reports
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the new nintendo 3ds to not include a
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power adapter in north america uh are you beautiful i am you might be
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able to eat for free at a certain restaurant and gta 5 has been
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what exactly uh
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gener general food super normal things
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i'm trying to make like a beautiful face it's not going very well okay go ahead
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i'm i'm done oh that was it do you see it five delayed that's all you're going to say
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about it yeah right because we're going to save it for later on boom intro
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all right so it's going to be a good show today guys uh we're going to kick
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off with something that's actually not new at all this article is from like
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fairly old man we were three weeks ago and we even okay like i know it says
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it's old but we never discussed it we did oh we just both were like whatever
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oh all right i just agreed that it was stupid and moved on at any rate boom
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here's the bbc article i'll go ahead and screen share with you guys but uh
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wow wow wow maker says that video games
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should be in the olympics and
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there there are some arguments on either side of this or really that okay video
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game see i i went and i used one of those words that mainstream media uses
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to you know make it seem less legitimate what did
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you say i called them video games oh i should have called them esports
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excuse me very different
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what i'm being a little bit facetious okay just just a touch just a touch okay
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so so there are a couple there are a couple good points that the uh that the
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wow creator brings up i'm just gonna go ahead and switch back to my laptop here so i can look at what they were because
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i don't memorize all these things so number one is that they're well
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positioned to be a spectator sport uh given that you can fill up you know tens
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of thousands of spectator coliseum for a
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live event in some parts of the world and i mean the north american viewers
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out there might kind of go well yeah but just because you can kind of do it there
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doesn't mean that it should be a big deal i mean the reality of it is north america is not the center of the
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universe and i don't know if this is still true and it was either 2008 or
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2012. my facts are a little bit hazy here but i believe it was the badminton
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men's singles gold medal match that was the most watched sporting event of that
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entire of that entire summer games olympics and it's basically non-existent
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in north america so i thought you were going to say like ever and i'm like i'm
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pretty sure that was something to do with soccer but yeah okay no just because just because no one watches it
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here doesn't necessarily or or watch it here and people go to live gaming events
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it's pretty rare i know they did one at the staples center yeah but that's kind
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of it it's like yeah there was that one they did at the staples center that
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doesn't make it an olympic it happens but not on the same scale at all
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same i guess similar to tennis people watch it but not on the same scale so
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and then the other argument is i think the way you look at esports is as a very
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competitive skill set and you're looking at these professional gamers with
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reflexes that are lightning quick and the and quick decision making you know
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upwards of 300 actions per minute although the whole actions per minute
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metric is one of those ones that i think we've pretty much stopped acknowledging
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at this point i hope um
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and so you know the comment is video games would first need to win a cultural
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battle uh over physical sports
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so with all of that said the the ioc the
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international olympic committee has already kind of laid down the law as far
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as you know new events goes they're only going to have a fixed number of events
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so that means that if you want to add something you have to remove something else and as questionable as some of the
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things in the olympics i actually don't follow summer olympics as closely as i
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do winter olympics but i mean come on figure skating and ice dancing like
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really and someone's gonna give me crap over this in fact i hope my new contact
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at sony isn't watching right now because um
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yeah she's uh actually no she's a she's a figure skating judge not an ice dance
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judge my understanding is figure skaters for the most part look at ice dances
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kind of why are you even here figure skating in
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its own regard is pretty freaking intense i don't know
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much about ice dance ice dance is kind of like figure skating but um right more
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dancing no figure skating has partners too like that's exactly right
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i don't know where it's just like why do we need both of them um okay yeah we
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should probably but like it's figure skating is quite physically challenging so okay
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i guess whether or not they win this battle is going to come down to whether
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they can find something less worthy to knock out and whether or not it's
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possible to win the battle of should uh should what is effectively yes there's a
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physical component but uh yeah you can't really even say well
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no like the the a point at the bottom of this where it's a mind sport is a really
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good point um chess chess supporters have wanted chess to be in the olympics
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for a long time and i think if you were to look at the olympics as
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sort of you know it's a traditional thing it's all about the legacy of
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whatever it is and esports being very new probably don't necessarily
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follow fall under that chess would i mean
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chess has a long history and if we're not going to include that then should we
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include esports first if we included stuff like chess i think it would make
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more sense because we have added newer
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sports to the tradition of the olympics
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but of course there's the like there's the business aspect as well going back
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to the if you're gonna do esports you should probably do chess argument because compared to esports chess
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doesn't draw nearly the same kind of a crowd no i meant the other way around if
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they were doing chess already it would make more sense for them to do that than
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any sport there was a no brainer during the mind game stuff should we close the door yeah i'll close the door because
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those guys are loud move into our next topic sure i don't
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think there was really much to say on that it's just the mind sport thing it
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comes down to it in in my opinion they don't do the mind sports stuff i mean
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what that says i mean okay something like throwing a javelin
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okay this is not a mind sport but hey i thought you were gonna be like that's a
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mind sport i was like dude no something like hockey on the other hand though
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there is a huge mental component so yes
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it's physical there's there's a mental component to every sport
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javelin throwing there's a mental component to it okay there's a mental
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okay i shouldn't have said mental i should have said mind because they're
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not they the the connotation is slightly different you don't use your mind to
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throw a javelin but there there's like a mental resilience under pressure
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component to any competition whether it's a physical one or anything else you
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still use your mind to throw a javelin okay you use your mind to throw a
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javelin we're not talking freaking telekinesis here we're talking about you
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use your mind to tell the ARM that it should probably go ahead and do this no
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i know but also if you're in outdoor stadiums you have to judge other things like it's it's anyways there's no point
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in arguing this um but there's you have to use your
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brain in every sport um but it's like anyways whatever uh
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google oh should we just go into the google versus microsoft thing uh yeah
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sure why not oh god okay so there's essentially
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two stories to this so i'm gonna start with the first story um google what the
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okay someone messed with my notes here did you copy the link already i'm doing
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it no i did not okay sorry i will do that from now on
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uh if i make sure i'm logged in google released details on a security
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vulnerability in Windows 8.1 48 hours before microsoft was ready to release a
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patch for it microsoft claims and i believe google is
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not refuting this at all that they were in contact with google and were like
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guys we're releasing a patch for this in two days hatch tuesday please don't
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do this and then google was like nope releasing it uh google's whole idea for
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this um and microsoft is calling for them to be more flexible and work with
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them in the future when it has to do with the vulnerabilities of millions and
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millions of users google's rebuttal is that they have a standard 90-day policy
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when it comes to uh releasing data about
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vulnerabilities and the policy and the reason this exists and all that kind of
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stuff is to pressure companies into fixing vulnerabilities more quickly now
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when it was already fixed and it was coming out in two days
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maybe that shouldn't apply but that is their policy so that's what they're doing story two
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is that um so there's that fight already going on story two is that while google
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is slamming on other companies to fix vulnerabilities they have their own
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problems google has received reports for vulnerability in rep webview which is a
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web renderer for Android and it affects jelly bean users the
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article that we have linked here to neowin is claiming that jellybean is 60 of
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users it's actually more about 46 percent of users of Android users of
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Android users yeah um if it's 60 if you include the things before
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jelly bean but i wasn't entirely certain if this vulnerability affected things
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that were before jelly bean as well right um so it's 46 or 60 i'm not
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entirely either way it's hundreds of millions yes it's a massive percentage
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of people and google is refusing to fix it and will not work on it at all
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because they will not work on anything at all that is pre 4.4 kitkat uh google
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is stating that if someone wants a fix for this they can submit the patch in
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the report and then google will be we'll we'll check it out and if it's
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legitimate they'll send it to oems and see what the oems and then the other
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option is they're saying the oems are more than welcome to patches themselves
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which i mean if anyone here has ever bought
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like i'm going to pick on samsung because they're the biggest ones
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manufacturer that makes software yeah any any any handset manufacturer that makes
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their own skin on top of Android and
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basically supports it until the next flagship is
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out oh what's that hold on new one's out but bye see ya um
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so so pretty much that's it um
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you get you get to buy a new device or you get uh and i mean
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i'm so sick of people saying oh well you should just root and run a different rom
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you nobody does that like someone does it
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yes you do that's fine but when you're looking at the
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46 to 60 percent possible metric of people an extremely small
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percentage of that the people who are still running jelly bean probably don't
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do that because they probably wouldn't still be running jelly bean and when you
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consider that there are new devices being sold today that have jelly now
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running jelly bean like this is a huge problem and like not a small amount of
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them there's a fair amount of devices being sold now that have jelly bean on them and i understand google's issue
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here where they have such diversity in the in the hardware that Android can be
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running on that they they can't individually support every device and
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ultimately it does fall on the handset makers to support the devices that they
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sell but the cold hard truth is the handset makers or device makers aren't doing it
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and if google doesn't support these older devices at least with something
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like uh with a like a a widespread
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fundamental flaw like this if they opt not to support it it ultimately reflects
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poorly on the Android experience and gives more ammunition to people like me
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you know it's amazing how many people uh called me uh an apple fanboy or like
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iphone fanboy in my nexus 6 review you know okay um i haven't even watched it
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i've heard of it and i'm going to watch it i just this last two weeks has been a
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blur um but can i finish that thought first sure it gives more ammunition to
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people like me who praise apple for supporting their older devices much much
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better than handset makers on the Android side i still use my iphone 4
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almost every day as an mp3 player and a video streamer just
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if i you know if i'm in the bath or something and i don't want to risk dropping my
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actual phone i'll grab it and i'll i'll throw it there and it still runs
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everything i need it to do my wife's samsung galaxy s vibrant that was the
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equivalent flagship Android phone
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okay aside from the micro usb connector obviously dying because every single
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micro usb connector with you know i think the one on my moto x is already
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going uh because they will all die eventually it's a terrible terrible
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connector aside from that dying on it that thing was freaking useless by the
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end of its life and that is a pattern that continues and comes right from
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google on the Android side when apple does not do that uh but that said i'm
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not an apple fanboy in fact my daily driver
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right now is an Android phone whoa look at that
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well you can't really tell because that's a twitter app but
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okay sorry what you're gonna say i'm i'm conflicted now because you've probably
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known for a while now i haven't been super stoked with my moto x because it only lasts for half a day but um
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there's this is my problem consistently with phones is there's no real great
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solution i don't want to go to iOS because i don't like iOS but
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things that i do on the phone a lot twitter instagram
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social media stuff email all of that would work totally fine on iOS actually
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instagram would work considerably better and i would know the camera's good um
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now i could just do more research and find an Android phone that has a good camera but iphone cameras are very good
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and it would be totally fine and my instagram would work better now a lot of
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app support on iOS is better which is frustrating because i'm an Android guy
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and i want to stick with Android now i'm interested in a turbo but don't even
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really sell them in canada they don't sell them at all in canada yeah yeah
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like you can you can try and import them you can do all this other crap but it's
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super frustrating like god this sucks there's no good solution
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on the Android side in my opinion at all
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in canada honestly not really well it was cheap
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battery was crap yeah that's a huge problem right like
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god mine the iphone's battery is crap too like i
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know if you actually i'm saying there's no good solution standby is excellent
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but the actual in-use battery life is is
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terrible like at uh at ces i was using the iphone 6 because um phantom glass
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doesn't have a cover for the droid turbo so i wasn't able to use it um but yeah
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so i was using the iphone 6 every day i was down to single digit battery at the
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end of the day and one day it just died while i was out and about i had to charge it i'm kind of sitting here going
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i can't even get through a day with this phone this is ridiculous
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whereas the droid turbo is awesome like every single day no matter what i do to
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it and like people in twitch chat are off referring phones that are
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not good oneplus one and actually the oneplus one is supposed
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to be okay i haven't used it the experience is not great i've used one of
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my friends it's not awesome and there's like stuff you have to go and fix
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yourself because it's just broken it's like something stupid
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yeah or they're too big or like other crap it's just oh
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i do not like phones because i think they're garbage you should get the um
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oh crap the cinco phone
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you know the cinco phone right i've yeah isn't this
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yeah okay we have to we have to play this we have to play this this is an adult swim
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thing who knows i might get a copyright strike or whatever i don't care okay
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what should be like cannot be played in your region oh no you're good hold on hold on evolutionary new device the new
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cinco phone from cinco mobile great thing about the cinco phone that has one
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button and one only let's say i want to call my mom press it on open both the antennas for
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better reception than the number five
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five five
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oh press no times for zero
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have you seen this
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and the receive best with it you should only
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make calls you'll never be bothered again at work your leisure time out in
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the golf course or at the beach so
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is that your phone like is is that the point we're at right now that doesn't
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solve any of my problems at all no no didn't even talk about battery life
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speaking of not solving problems uh nintendo to halt
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console and software distribution in brazil so this article is from
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digitalspy.co.uk i'm going to go ahead and post that in the chat here and what a
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bummer for brazilians yeah really like just
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i i don't blame nintendo for this
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at all yeah and and like it's it's not like they're like oh we're never gonna
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be distributing in brazil they're just talking about how they're having issues with it right now i'm assuming they're
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gonna try and fix those issues and then come back but so basically they they're
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they're they and their brazilian distributor who
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is apparently still handling distribution for that area just not in brazil
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specifically are have both said yeah like we're we're still we still have a
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relationship and we're we're committed to re-evaluating things as time goes on
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but basically um due to the and apparently there are
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other issues as well that they're not really getting into but they're saying the distribution model in the country is
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unsustainable and most of this is thanks to the extremely high import tariffs on
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anything that's manufactured outside of brazil now this is something that the brazilian government did a number of
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years back um to to to i guess
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incentivize incentivize companies to make their own manufacturing facilities
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within brazil because if you make something in brazil whether it's a car
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or a playstation 4 if you make something within the country it's not subject to
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those tariffs and i can understand why they might want to do this from a job
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creation perspective um i'm sorry did you like this yeah and also to encourage
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foreign investment into you know high technology manufacturing facilities
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within brazil but the reality of it is brazil is just brazil
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and setting up new manufacturing in you
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know if every country started doing this and you had to set up manufacturing in
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every single country not only would it drive up the cost of that product within
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that country it would drive it up everywhere because it creates all this overhead for these companies so
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um i mean to put this in perspective like people might be going well you know
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there's import tax in the uk and in canada and everywhere but to put in
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perspective the 400 playstation 4 this is from the digital spy.ca article
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uh was priced at eighteen hundred dollars after import fees when it
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arrived in brazil and that's converted
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that's not in brazilian dollars or anything like that that's just that's a
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straight currency conversion i mean
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it's not like it's not like brazil is dubai where you might expect the average
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resident to be able to afford to pay four plus times more than
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you know anyone else in the world and obviously i'm generalizing i know not everyone in
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dubai is is loaded but the point is it's not like brazil is an extraordinarily
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wealthy country where everyone is going to be walking around with two grand to
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drop on a game console and then you know over a hundred dollars per game i mean
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that's ridiculous um so basically yeah they're again they're
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gonna re-evaluate and i i hope it really sucks for people in brazil it really
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does because now how are they gonna how are they gonna get them the only other
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option is gonna be um i'm like okay how does it work if you
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bought something on like uh amazon.com and got it shipped
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to you yeah same thing the the import tariffs okay yeah absolutely
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rough all right so this is from uh hexis.net
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i'm just going to go ahead and take it again you got it okay ssds yeah yeah
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this is from hexis.net and
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a report on the state of flash memory and disk storage has predicted that
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using ssds will become more economical than hard drives for most purposes from
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2016 onward the prediction applies to
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almost all storage but seems like the highest capacities will remain the forte
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of spinning disks for a little bit longer uh wikibon followed up its 2009 report
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with another recently focusing on evolution of all flash array
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architectures so this one right here shows four year
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cost per terabyte for capacity disks and
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nand flash so they figure in 2016 so
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between 2015 and the beginning of 2016 we're gonna go from flash costing you
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know uh let's see a scale of this here so
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whatever 40 more all the way down to
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only about wow less than less than half massive drop yeah um so for one thing i
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haven't really seen uh this this exact
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ratio at this time so they're they're assuming that'll happen in 2015 so um
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good luck and two talking to a couple SSD makers at ces
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um they kind of went 2016 are you i
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um we're we're a long way away
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um and you look at the difficulty that even Intel has had moving to 14
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nanometer although we haven't seen any indication that 10 nanometers is going
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to slip but um
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yeah it would be great kind of insane like at
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the same time i just had the problem where my SSD completely died
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um and while all right SSD failure rates are actually
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really good the problem is not really recoverable so i'm still going to want
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to have most of my mass storage on hard disk anyways that's actually a very good
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point not something that i thought about um when it comes to when it comes to
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mass storage being able to buy like a terabyte SSD for my boot drive
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sweet and have it be like totally affordable like that's awesome i totally
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want to be able to do that you're still not going to archive on it i'm still not going to archive on it right not at all
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there's no way my nas will be running hard disks
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unless something super major changes but i seriously doubt it because that way if
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there is a huge failure i can just be like okay well i can probably scrub data
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off this that's a good point because i hate running hard drives on anything
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portable like i thought ipods were insane yeah when
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they had hard drives are you are you just
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asking for this to die um like i was one of those i was one of those freaks that
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bought an rca lira because i bought a zen uh zen creative
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some other stuff because it wasn't a hard drive yeah
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i paid way too much for my for my lira but and it only had i think uh i think i
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had one and my girlfriend at the time had one one of us had a 64 meg and the
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other one had a 32 meg so we're talking like 10 to 20 mp3 music files on this thing i
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miss those things but i was like okay and but but but and and so that was like
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compared to people with ipods right but there was a justification behind this so
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number one is it wasn't a hard drive based so flash storage yay throw it around and
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all that's good and number two is that at the time i was using a sony discman
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anyway so when you're burning yourself a mix cd that's only going to be about you
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know 16 to 22 songs or because you didn't have mp3 cds at the time where
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you could just burn the files to it so you were only going to have about 20
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songs on a disk anyway so i was like okay well this thing is the equivalent
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of whatever mix cd that i would be burning for myself and yeah it's a
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couple hundred bucks or whatever but at least it's at least it's pretty rugged i
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used to i used to love the days of like all right i have woken up time to change
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what songs are on my mp3 player because i can only hold one album worth at a
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time that was always entertaining um but yeah
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i i don't see myself changing our archival storage mediums for a very long
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time on the subject of archival storage mediums this is really interesting maybe
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i just haven't been paying oh we haven't been saying who's been posting articles
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in the forum we're bad people it was i hammy for the esports thing good bytes
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shout out to you for the google not patching the security whole thing opcode
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for something x tanks layer x for nintendo halt console
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and uh oh no okay that was it okay so
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this one's by aming new service allows you to rent your hard
26:20
disk space uh have you posted the article already okay awesome i'm going
26:25
to go ahead and pull up the myce.com article here but it's called storage and
26:31
it's spelled wrong because that's the hipster web 2.0
26:36
yeah like like the razor sirens like what are you guys doing
26:40
it's it's like you're celebrities and you're naming your children
26:44
so storage s-t-o-r-j dot io is where you can go to
26:49
learn about this and it sounds really
26:52
cool on the surface um last year they raised about 215 000
26:58
in bitcoins apparently according to this article that's um
27:03
using today's bitcoin valuation so at the time if they converted them
27:08
promptly then that was actually a lot yeah a lot
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more money but the way it's going to work is it's a peer-to-peer network that
27:16
allows you to allocate storage on your computer so on your hard drive or SSD
27:22
whatever the case may be and go okay yeah i've got 300 gigs of storage i'm
27:25
not using and then it actually gives you that much storage space elsewhere on the
27:30
network to use as as cloud-based storage
27:34
yeah very very cool and then sorry go ahead
27:37
there's there's other ways you can utilize this too i believe you can request more but then you have to pay
27:42
for it yes and then other people can kind of rent out their space yes yeah so
27:46
that's pretty cool like one quick thing to note about the rent out your space is
27:50
you get paid in i don't remember exactly what it's called but it's like storage i
27:55
o coin storage storage coin x yeah a digital
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uh a digital value atta veluta i haven't
28:04
seen this word before i'm gonna call it currency uh which can be exchanged for
28:08
real money yeah so you don't actually get paid to
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like your paypal in dollars uh
28:14
you get paid in this thing so you can figure that out convert it or whatever
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but i mean think about it like if you planned to use this service in the long
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term you could go ahead and invest in a large raid array or something like that
28:26
you could rent out until you fill it and
28:30
then you could start using your your stored like your your your built-up
28:34
storage currency to rent from other people until you can save up some money
28:38
in order to you know buy a new raider or whatever else like i can i can see this
28:42
being a really really cool way to get the most out of your personality remember is that current cloud-based
28:48
storage is not that expensive to be able to be honest and this is not that
28:53
no this is supposed to be a lot cheaper so you're probably not and then after
28:58
their cuts and stuff you're probably not going to get a ton for renting out your
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space but if you weren't using it anyways yeah then that's still cool and
29:05
you might actually be able to theoretically make more money off of
29:09
renting your hard drive space use a lot less power
29:12
uh compared to running bitcoin binders right which
29:16
would be kind of funny and i mean one way to look at it too is you're you it's
29:20
it's more like storage shifting almost at a certain point because you could
29:24
kind of go yeah i don't need all the space i have on my desktop computer
29:28
which i hardly ever touch anymore because i'm always running around with my notebook or my smartphone or whatever
29:33
else but you're converting that to cloud storage that you can use in your smart
29:36
with your smartphone pretty cool and it's so the way the way it works is it
29:39
actually breaks up blocks and those are either 32
29:45
meg or 8 meg if i recall correctly yeah 8 meg or 32 meg blocks and then it
29:50
actually distributes everything all over the place so aside from encrypting them
29:54
you shouldn't act like one person's hard drive aside from having an encrypted
29:58
version of your data shouldn't even have the entire the entire piece of data in
30:03
many cases so it's in theory secure i'm
30:07
not endorsing its security yeah let's be really clear about that this is
30:10
something i hadn't heard of until now and there is definitely um a gray zone
30:16
here so each block each block of data has a
30:20
unique hash it should be possible to add illegal content to a so-called gray list
30:25
and then it should be possible for users to allow or disallow gray list content
30:31
to be stored on their hard drive because this creates a huge a huge liability
30:38
concern like what if i get raided
30:41
because my hard drive has a bunch of child porn on it like let's go worst
30:45
case scenario it's got a bunch of child porn on it that i didn't even know was
30:49
there and was encrypted so i i didn't even have any way of discovering that it
30:53
was there um and so
30:57
probably and then the other way around and then the other way around you use
31:01
this maliciously to try and take blame off of yourself for doing something like
31:04
that so yeah and it'll use your bandwidth of
31:08
course because the way it works is it's kind of a it's a mesh based network so
31:12
in order to keep speeds high you're actually pulling from multiple sources
31:16
and in this much the same way like just like just like torrenting you
31:20
would be you would have multiple seeds including yourself uploading files to
31:24
other people at the same time so very cool idea i
31:28
might consider you know giving it a try be it's a very interesting thing i'd be
31:33
interested in giving it a try too i'm definitely not going to check off that gray content thing no definitely not um
31:39
even though it might not even help because i don't know how they're flagging grey content but i'm sure it's
31:43
not very effective yeah i'm sure it's not going to capture stuff like child
31:46
porn i'm sure if it captured anything it would be stuff like used read the file
31:51
name it's not very effective
31:55
called jpeg1 didn't work uh
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but yeah yeah i'm sure it's more for like movies
32:03
more nintendo's filed match uh iron man
32:06
four okay well you can't have it more nintendo bs uh nintendo is no longer
32:12
including in the new ds xl excuse me 3ds
32:16
xl this time it's their fault um
32:20
like really guys this time it's like super their fault this was posted by
32:24
rohith kumar sp i'm gonna go ahead and pull this up on uh pull this up on my
32:28
computer here but the the new nintendo 3ds xl does not come with an ac adapter
32:34
nintendo says there's a good reason for that and that's that rather than to
32:38
raise the cost of the 3ds xl by charging consumers for a component they may
32:43
already own we are giving them the option to only buy it if they need an ac
32:48
adapter and that is an interesting argument and you
32:52
could probably make that argument for something like
32:55
a smartphone that uses micro usb
32:59
instead of a proprietary connector that
33:03
they haven't even been using for that long i mean if you're a ds light owner
33:07
that's not gonna work so nintendo
33:12
uh and apparently it's an eight dollar adder although luke was saying that when
33:16
he saw them in the store they were significantly more than yeah well it's
33:19
an eight dollar from nintendo if you buy it from a brick and mortar or something
33:22
it could be more expensive i mean can you imagine getting giving that to someone for
33:27
christmas there's there's stories in the news article about people that bought it
33:31
for christmas for their kid with a game the kid opened both of them and was like
33:35
oh crap because this is already a thing in uh certain asian markets europe and
33:40
uh japan for sure yeah yeah um so like
33:43
it's already a thing in places and people are already upset about it people are going well like you don't do this in
33:48
the states so their decision was to also do it in the states that's not how you
33:52
solve that problem oh my goodness you just stopped doing it everywhere because
33:56
like okay i've owned iterations of uh ds where
34:02
i've got a 2ds now right yeah where if i bought this new one it would be fine but
34:06
if i bought the new one i would give my 2ds to someone with the charger and not
34:12
everyone not everyone is brandon and just buys
34:15
half a dozen charging cables for everything they own and yeah and another
34:19
simple solution here would be for nintendo to stop using a proprietary
34:22
connector it's just a 5 volt power source there is absolutely no reason on
34:28
i thought it was mini-b it looks like mini b when i had uh what was it my ds
34:33
light so admittedly a different connector i thought it was mini b so i
34:36
lost my charger for a while and then just went and found a mini b cable and
34:39
was like why doesn't it work what's wrong
34:44
what is this
34:47
so there's new macbook air rumors um
34:50
and there's there's conflicting reports i was hearing for a while that they were
34:54
going to do away with the magdot connector their magnetic charging cable
34:58
i was hearing um so this is this is the most recent this is the most recent
35:02
version so it's rumored that it will be so thin that it will not have room for a
35:07
3.5 millimeter audio jack which is absolutely ridiculous
35:13
um i i cannot i cannot imagine apple
35:17
being i shouldn't say that i truly hope apple wouldn't be that
35:22
stupid um so stupid as to remove the
35:26
three and a half inch connector maybe the justification is you know we're
35:30
going to have an awesome new bluetooth beats headphone or something like that
35:35
but that is ridiculous um
35:38
so so there's other stuff it will apparently have a retina screen dir
35:42
it's a 12 it's going to be super thin it's uh allegedly going to have a fanless design
35:47
so so far it actually sounds very similar to the zenbook ux305 that we
35:52
checked out at ces which is also extraordinarily thin has a 3200 by 1800
35:58
pixel display is fanless which is cool and features a
36:02
broadwell m processor which is what allows it to be fanless and still
36:05
deliver decent performance um so the new
36:08
macbook air will apparently have a usb 3.1 interface rather than Thunderbolt
36:14
which is fascinating to me because apple's been
36:17
the only one that really has glommed onto the Thunderbolt standard and many
36:22
mac people are already invested into the Thunderbolt ecosystem now bear in mind
36:26
usb 3.1 at 10 gigabit per second is and
36:30
with up to 100 watts of power output is
36:33
a very capable capable connector
36:36
but um it's still a little weird it's still
36:40
pretty bizarre to me because the footprint of a usb 3.1
36:45
a plug is actually quite large they might have been able to get two
36:49
Thunderbolt plugs in that area yeah and this picture shows uh shows looks like a
36:53
Thunderbolt shows an a connector and also shows what appears to be a Thunderbolt connector but this might
36:57
this might be an older one or something like i'm not sure the the rumors are kind of all over the place right now but
37:01
one one challenge right off the bat although usb 3.1 should address this
37:06
with display over usb being much easier is that people are not necessarily going
37:11
to be set up but then again i was going to say set up with all the you know
37:15
cables and everything that you need but then apple's never been ashamed of charging you 60 for a cable with your
37:20
with your macbook anyway so who knows what they're going to do but i
37:24
know for sure that i want to check out the ux uh 305 that zen book from ASUS
37:28
because that one looks outstanding yeah broadwell while not exciting on the
37:33
desktop um looks like it's super cool on the laptop really cool on laptop really
37:38
cool on notebook did you see the 12.5 inch ASUS like super thin
37:44
uh transformer book chi t300 tablet no i
37:47
was checking out all the lenovo stuff they have a lot of really cool yogas
37:51
which are super crazy thing yogas that are basically as thin as tablets when
37:55
you fold them a yoga could could win me over i'm
37:59
really disappointed that dell kind of abandoned
38:02
the the ferris wheel design for their
38:05
convertibles um because i mean the new xps 13 we do have a review unit coming
38:10
and i am going to check it out it does look it does look pretty awesome but i
38:14
really really wish it was a two in one because even though i used the tablet
38:18
functionality of this only very rarely
38:21
it's still nice it's nice to have and the the hinge mechanism has been
38:26
robust enough that it hasn't been a problem for me at all and i don't mind
38:29
the extra the extra thickness in order to have that so i would have i would
38:33
have liked to still just have that opportunity the other thing i'm really disappointed about and i'm already
38:37
planning to rip into dell about for a good minute of the review is that the
38:42
top end sku has only eight gigs of RAM yeah like really
38:47
it's like they it's like they want me to only get a year out of my xps 13. gigs
38:52
of RAM is like when i'm like yeah buy this kit so you can upgrade later yeah
38:58
um all right AMD employee confirms new GPU with hbm
39:05
so hbn or high bandwidth memory is a
39:09
stacked RAM technology co-developed by AMD and sk hynix similar to hybrid
39:14
memory cube which is something that micron was working on and that NVIDIA
39:18
was backing and what had planned to release the GPU with this year but since
39:23
NVIDIA bet wrong it looks like they're going to be stuck with gddr5 until
39:28
2016 when they are going to be apparently jumping on the hbm bandwagon
39:34
as well so why do we need hbm well there's a
39:38
couple of good reasons dramatically better bandwidth we're talking on the
39:41
order of four and a half times insane
39:44
right from the start and higher bandwidth is good not only because it
39:49
allows the GPU to transfer data extremely quickly from its video memory
39:54
and to its video memory but also because
39:57
it simplifies the design of the chips and the pcbs lowering the cost of the of
40:02
the graphics card for the end user in theory probably not probably they'll
40:06
just take more margin on it but you know how it is in the long in the very long
40:09
term it will drive costs down because if you don't have to have these massive
40:14
384-bit 512-bit
40:17
uh designs that's a lot of pins on the bottom of the GPU that's a lot of memory
40:21
modules and that's a lot of traces then it does lower the cost significantly um
40:27
so there's that uh oh the rumored r9 380 x
40:31
will include it that is supposed to be a 20 nanometer GPU and due sometime in the
40:35
next few months here um the r9 390x is
40:40
also rumored and is rumored to come with water cooling from the factory
40:43
just like the uh wow i'm drawing a blank r9 295 x2
40:48
and i think that's pretty much it it should be noted that our source for this
40:51
is wccf tech so i i saying that at the end so
40:55
everyone wouldn't just tune out immediately and most of this stuff looks
40:58
pretty credible and does align with stuff that we've heard already and the
41:03
fact that the source for some of this info at least was the linkedin pages of
41:08
AMD employees one of which seems to have been made at
41:11
least not public because i couldn't see it at this point um looks like it could be
41:16
pretty credible yeah yeah and it's not like it's been it's not like hbm has
41:20
been a secret hynix has been sampling it since uh late last year yeah so it's
41:25
been available um i'm i'm pretty excited to see what that brings uh NVIDIA
41:30
may end up in in a position where for the first time in a while they have
41:35
maybe a performance competitive part but perhaps not a cost competitive part and
41:40
they might have to give up some of those juicy margins they've been making for
41:43
the last couple of years because uh titan x which is what the internet is
41:47
kind of calling it now the fully enabled maxwell that should
41:52
power um you know tesla quadro and then
41:55
very high-end titan-grade gpus on the desktop
42:00
is still out there you know we don't know too much about it other than that
42:03
it'll apparently have around 3 000 cuda cores uh but it's going to be a really large
42:08
die and therefore very expensive to produce since NVIDIA is had planned to
42:12
skip 20 nanometer and instead go straight to 16 nanometer except that
42:17
that's been delayed by tsmc due to difficulties and samsung as well for
42:21
that matter Intel's the only one with working one x-class nanometer manufacturing
42:26
right now and i don't think Intel's gonna run around making gpus for NVIDIA anytime soon
42:31
although maybe that would be a really interesting collab
42:35
i seriously don't think it would happen totally not happening Intel always
42:39
reserves their best for themselves and apparently apple no yeah um so that that
42:44
was rumored a couple weeks ago i think but um
42:49
hmm could be an interesting year AMD might uh might be able to fight back i mean
42:53
freesync is a big one because i've been i've been blowing that g-sync trumpet
42:58
for a long time not because i love NVIDIA so huggy muggy much and i think
43:03
they're just the cuddliest most wonderfulest people ever but because
43:06
it's a legitimately much better gaming experience and if freesync delivers on
43:10
what it promises and we're going to have free sync monitors coming into our our
43:14
office here soon then that'll be a cool showdown i mean
43:18
what else is there NVIDIA still has GeForce experience which i personally
43:21
don't use because i have no problem configuring my in-game settings um their
43:25
3d is much better but stereo 3d is
43:28
basically dead in the water at this point in the multi monitor and then
43:32
multi monitor say AMD is going to have the edge there yeah so
43:37
freezing could be a huge win for them especially if monitor availability is as
43:40
good as they're saying with i think it was 11 monitors
43:44
now and then up to 20 by the end of the year wow
43:47
and uh talking to ASUS um they were it's
43:51
funny talking to them at ces they actually weren't sure if their monitor
43:55
that they know works with freesync was even going to work with it because
44:00
communication was kind of blue all over the place but now it's come out that
44:04
even though that monitor is not freesync certified there is no mandatory
44:09
certification process or anything like that so if ASUS wants to have a freesync
44:14
compatible monitor that's not certified that's fine and it'll work just fine
44:18
interesting very cool as long as the scalar technology and the firmware on
44:22
the monitor both support the tech right
44:25
yeah yeah cool hey that's interesting
44:28
all right i wonder what the certification process is because i i
44:31
still see buyer confidence being a little iffy if it's not actually
44:34
certified i think so too and um AMD i
44:38
believe said that there's okay i can't remember what they said about the fee
44:42
structure so basically don't quote me on this but it was something along the
44:46
lines of they're not charging for like a
44:49
badge on the box the way that NVIDIA has in the past with
44:52
certain technologies or the way that uh you know someone like mlg will charge
44:56
thank you to have like the mlg certified gaming monitor or whatever
45:00
else but i believe there would be a cost
45:04
associated with the certification process right just because those things
45:08
do cost money because they would likely be done by a third party not by AMD at
45:12
all which is better which is life yeah yeah
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hooray hooray my google docs is freaking out right now
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anyways what do you want to do next i don't know what should we do oh let's do let's do grand theft auto 5 for pc
49:59
delayed this was posted by wurto 165 on the forum i'm gonna i'll go ahead and
50:04
post the link it's okay okay um i got this got this um so basically the
50:08
internet's freaking out and people are bros be mad and um their
50:14
their butts hurt and they shouldn't be all this kind of stuff
50:18
so it's it's been delayed several times so there's that um delayed again to the
50:23
24th of march and what i have to say about all this is
50:27
a screw you rockstar for not at least
50:30
trying to get the pc version out in a somewhat timely manner like right near
50:34
the ps4 and xbox one versions at the very least and two
50:39
screw you guys who are complaining about them delaying it because they've come
50:43
right out and said it needs a few more weeks of testing and polish to make it
50:48
as good as it can be yes please shut up just shut your mouth god they've said
50:54
we're getting it they're not just going console exclusive
50:58
on it which is something we could legitimately be mad about it and they've
51:01
said the reason we don't have it yet is because they want to port it properly
51:10
i mean again screw you rockstar for opening up your pre-orders
51:14
um and all of you guys please don't pre-order it because we shouldn't be
51:19
giving them money until they deliver it to us but we also shouldn't be upset
51:23
that they haven't delivered it to us yet if it's not ready yet i'd rather have a
51:27
finished game and you know what i've even seen people posting on reddit and
51:30
even in our forum i thought i saw one of these it's like i'd rather have it have
51:34
a few bugs and be playing it now you would be saying the exact opposite
51:39
thing if this was assassin's creed unity or watch dogs we have mine do watch dogs
51:45
a far cry come out we have watch dogs come out ubisoft
51:48
hooray we have h1z1 we have all changes
51:51
on my shirt various problems um we're gonna get such
51:56
a huge viewer account um but uh yeah so like all these launches that just
52:00
cover the nipples with the powered by Linus tech tips i should be okay
52:05
i'm gonna claim that twitch told me that but they definitely didn't
52:09
uh i feel like you're gonna screw up at some point oh no no oh yeah he made it
52:13
okay um nipple management expert we have all these terrible
52:18
all these terrible launches that people freak out about
52:22
justifiably and then we have someone go like okay we don't want to be in that
52:26
boat let's fix this before we launch it and people freak out what are you doing
52:30
god we have to be united and decide what
52:34
we want what we want is games that work work at the beginning yes when we first
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installed them without 20 gigs of patches or whatever else and then like
52:43
oh man what what what was it unity that came up with like you should probably
52:47
have a 680 was that unity security i don't know
52:50
some game i don't know i don't care already but um some game came out
52:54
probably unity that needed way too high performance stuff and everyone freaked
52:57
out because they couldn't run it and then gta comes out and they're like oh i
53:01
expected it to like look better and have higher requirements i'm like god damn it
53:06
pc community anyways sorry
53:10
all right yeah i guess that's all there is to
53:14
really say about that isn't there um more gaming news this is from
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playstation.com sony is uh making 50 million dollars a
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month from playstation plus isn't that incredible do you want to post this uh
53:28
it's okay i can do it i got it yeah you sure because i got it i got it i got it
53:32
no i got it i did it first boom oh you lost um
53:36
so let's go ahead and fire this up no freaking wonder microsoft got all over
53:43
that that xbox live gold nonsense and
53:47
turning multiplayer into a paid service because if you're gonna try and tell me
53:51
that you're spending 50. 50 million dollars a month to make the online
53:55
gaming experience would you pay five bucks a month for steam
54:00
does it include content uh no no of course not well it includes
54:04
free games tf2 stuff like that no
54:08
i don't want to play tf2 yeah absolutely not so you wouldn't you
54:12
wouldn't use the steam service if it costs five bucks a month um no i think
54:16
i'm already paying for the steam service by buying my games through them so
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they're already they're already taking a cut um no like we have to
54:25
like like assume you don't have a steam account yet like we're like this is not
54:30
this realm of reality so your your options are buying
54:34
things on the steam service or buying them directly like they're buying them at a store
54:38
or there's like a download link from the
54:42
company so if they forced me if i wasn't
54:45
allowed to play online unless i paid five dollars a month for
54:50
steam no that's not even that that's an interesting discussion but that's not
54:53
the one i'm trying to oh okay so would i be five dollars a month just for what
54:58
steam is today essentially streaming the steam home streaming free
55:02
games music some free games the the unification of chat uh steam overlay the
55:08
the download service which is a lot better than most um all of that kind of
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stuff would you pay five bucks a month for that
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i feel like straw pulling this wow straw pull it straw pull it
55:22
wow that's tough if my other choice was to not have it
55:26
because a lot of okay you'd still be able to play multiplayer and stuff but
55:30
you know yeah i know deal with all that but a lot of the argument that i make
55:34
for boycotting something like playstation plus or xbox live gold where
55:39
i just kind of went look guys if we all refused to pay for it it would go away
55:44
like that a lot of the argument that i make for that is on the is is based on
55:50
the fact that we have it for free on the pc so you have other options that you
55:55
could take advantage of if you were taking away
55:59
my option of not having any platform
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where i don't have to pay an additional fee for for for the like the overlay
56:07
like even something like steam big picture you could look at as a value add
56:13
for for people who want to use steam to even just manage their library of games
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so if i had no choice and the only other option was like
56:20
like Windows explorer c colon slash program file slash you know code master
56:26
slash grid slash like if that's it would i pay five dollars a month it's not a
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lot of money i probably would
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i probably probably just i would probably sign up for it once out of
56:37
frustration and then i'd forget about it and i'd just kind of do it forever
56:41
that's kind of how it was and i think if steam wasn't there a lot of those
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services that you have that kind of bring them all together wouldn't exist
56:48
now to be completely honest if steam wasn't there i bet you the Windows games
56:53
folder kind of idea probably would have actually stuck around and that was
56:56
fantastic and that really should still be a thing um but
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yeah i don't know it's just an interesting idea that popped into my head can you uh hang out with me this uh
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this job yeah the struggle sure so i can go ahead and uh post the positions oh
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crap do you want the results i realized i was still screen sharing uh yeah i
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want the results link okay it doesn't really matter i can navigate to the
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results link on my own
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thank you so far it's looking like about 43
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percent of people are saying no 31 percent of people are saying austin's
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nipple and 26 percent of people are saying yes
57:32
all right here we go i'll get those results uh visually for you guys there
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there we go so yeah a lot of know a lot of i refuse to
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say anything relevant about this and then actually the fact that 26 percent
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of you are saying yes is a strong indicator to me that if valve did decide
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to charge for the service um they might actually generate a lot of subscriptions
57:54
i mean we're probably not a long way off i suspect they'll never make it
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mandatory but an optional subscription that gives you extra features
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a la you know gold or plus yeah yeah um i
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don't think plus i don't think multipla multiplayer will ever be one of those
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additional features for something like steam but if it gave you additional uh
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that's why i took the multiplayer element out of it yeah but if it gave you additional community
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interaction features or some other some other benefits i mean people pay for
58:23
hats like what if what if all it did what if
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all it did was drop you a care package from time to time with a hat in it
58:31
that's exclusive to people who are steam plus members i bet you they'd get way
58:35
more oh my god and that's something that oh my god and that's something that
58:39
steve would totally do oh man if you got like random indie
58:43
items and valve games i hope gabe's not watching right now it's like hey we
58:47
could have this rolled out like tomorrow
58:50
oh my goodness and the thing is okay not not harping on the people that said no
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too much but um i myself kind of sit in
58:57
the no camp right now because i could see myself um using other systems to manage my
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games right although however annoying that would be myself and a lot of people
59:07
in the no camp that might change if you didn't have
59:12
limited of like five minutes to think about this answer if you were then sitting on your
59:16
computer months from now and you couldn't remember what freaking game you
59:20
owned or where the key was that you could download it off the website
59:24
because they have bad account management and you're dealing with all these other
59:27
crap things and you could just be like well
59:31
could just get steam inject all my games there and then be fine
59:34
i don't know i see more of those nodes changing i see myself maybe being a
59:38
little bit more flexible um i don't know it's interesting
59:43
all right well i don't know if that is a thing at all it's just kind of a thought
59:46
experiment yeah this is just us making things up yep okay so
59:50
yes very fortunately we can jump to a few things actually oh uh there's the
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marriott abandoning their quest to block personal wi-fi hot hotspots this is from
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inc.com i'm going to go ahead and fire this up you want to post it in the chat
60:03
yep um so this was ridiculous basically they got they got slammed with i think
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it was a 600 000 fine when it was
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discovered that they were intentionally blocking their users personal Wi-Fi
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hotspots like on their phones um from functioning in the rooms and then they
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apologized and then they turned around and tried to get permission from the fcc
60:28
to implement that technology in places like conference rooms
60:32
are you freaking for real and they claimed this was to prevent people from
60:38
showing up in marriott hotels creating unauthorized hotspots with the intention
60:42
of stealing data and information from the patrons of the hotel and i kind of
60:46
go okay that is a scenario
60:50
that probably happened like once and there are other ways to get around
60:55
something like that and i i think it was
60:58
fairly obvious like at the on the
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surface of this yeah that this was all
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about trying to get people to pay additional for wi-fi in the hotel
61:08
especially business customers who are coming in for conferences and the fcc
61:13
received 39 comment letters this is from the inc.com
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article received 39 comment letters on the issue of which 38 were negative and
61:23
one was either neutral or off topic google and microsoft were among those
61:28
registering their opposition so at least they're on the same side
61:31
about something right now yeah really and i'm glad it's about not really
61:36
getting along everywhere but they're such big companies and i guess parts of them can get along with other parts
61:41
psy all right um
61:46
we've got the tesla thing uh let's do the obama obama thing sure yeah so this
61:52
was originally posted in the forum by lightning i got it and you got it okay
61:56
obama calls for an end to 19 state laws
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that harm community broadband this is this is this is awesome because
62:07
um obama calling for calling for the
62:10
internet to be reclassified as a utility marked a bit of a turning point maybe
62:15
not in the fcc chairman tom wheeler's
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thoughts about whether or not it would be title ii like
62:23
maybe maybe he was already leaning that way but it definitely brought about a
62:27
change in his actions and what he was saying publicly about it and it looks
62:32
like obama's going to kind of go keep moving
62:35
forward with this whole yeah if we want to if we want to be a developed nation
62:40
let's face it we've already got you know sewage we've already got electricity
62:45
mostly other than that it can be extremely expensive we've already got water again mostly actually really
62:50
interesting conversation with uh taran about how how things work with the
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colorado river and allocating the water yeah yeah he was saying that the way
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like any downstream states get an allocation in gallons so if the flow is
63:04
less colorado's actually the first one to not get any water from the colorado
63:08
river anyway i thought that was interesting so anyway they've got most
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stuff mostly figured out and yet they're
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lagging behind on broadband because of either cost or legislative challenges
63:21
that exist that prevent any startup from becoming an internet
63:27
service provider and kind of going you know what hey those margins that
63:31
profitability that's not good enough for at t yeah i'll take it i'll take it i
63:35
mean it stifles competition that's the that's the principle that this entire
63:41
country and i mean by this i mean the usa i don't live there you know but but
63:45
that that entire country was built on was was competition and capitalism and
63:50
if you just legislate the crap out of anyone being able to compete then you
63:54
end up in a situation where it's this monopolistic nonsense and it's not quite
63:59
a monopoly so um this was a really interesting
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uh chunk of the article uh yes here we go at speeds so with the old broadband
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classification of i believe it was three down one up four down four down one up
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75 percent of consumers have a choice between two or more fixed providers and
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15 percent can select among three or more which i would even still say is way
64:22
too low abominable yeah it's terrible however in the market for internet
64:26
service that can deliver 25 megabit downstream i mean we're talking
64:30
the speed at which you that you you could pretty much do
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anything on the internet you know netflix acceptable
64:37
hd youtube stuff like that um
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three out of four americans had no choice between providers
64:47
i mean when was this ever acceptable i mean i i i i hate to be critical when
64:52
they're finally speaking up and doing the right things but why did this take
64:56
so long and when's canada gonna
64:59
figure it out follow suit like we always do
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it'll take us a couple years and then we'll get there and you know i've seen a
65:07
lot of people wearing their cynicism hats um and especially on our forum
65:11
where a lot of our community is international and sort of going well
65:15
this is only because the election's coming i mean okay maybe there's some pressure
65:21
from the democratic party to you know
65:25
improve obama's popularity so whoever their new candidate coming in will have
65:29
a better chance of of winning the upcoming election but
65:32
um guys obama cannot be re-elected this
65:36
is a second term you can only serve two four-year terms in the united states so
65:40
it's not like it's not like obama personally wants to be the president for
65:43
another four years and is therefore trying to trying to win a popularity
65:48
contest by you know making especially a
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lot of this focuses on community broadband initiatives so smaller smaller
65:55
community isps or even municipalities themselves enabling them to utilize
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their existing infrastructure so whether it's power or sewage or whatever else to
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run lines and create their own broadband providers um don't remember where i was
66:09
going with that the the sentence kind of it's not hugely benefit beneficial for
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himself necessarily yeah because you were talking about uh elections coming
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up and it's not just pop it's not a popularity contest i mean it's it's it's
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a fact that access to high-speed internet breeds creativity and and gives
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people more options to better themselves i mean let's go back to one of our
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sponsors for a minute here lynda.com what are you gonna are you
66:34
gonna use lynda.com video tutorials on dial-up no
66:38
that's ridiculous i mean what if you have what if you have
66:42
okay what if your lynda.com membership is really reasonably priced but your
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internet connection has such a small cap
66:49
that by the time you watch the instructional videos you're actually paying a ton more just to educate
66:55
yourself and potentially improve your prospects in terms of your career path i
66:59
mean it's it's absurd inexpensive broadband has become something we need
67:04
not something that should be a privilege for the wealthy so
67:08
just right there that's it kudos yeah very happy about that whole situation
67:12
the fcc is already examining these state laws and considering whether it can
67:16
invalidate them by using its authority to promote competition and
67:19
telecommunications already so good
67:23
all the progress let's make it happen jumping to a not necessarily happier
67:28
note but a funnier note we can do the beautiful thing yeah oh my goodness this
67:32
is ridiculous you just want to have some entertainment i mean speaking of things that should be
67:37
illegal um
67:41
let's uh dang it
67:44
all right here we go okay i'll i'll post it uh our original source for this was
67:48
cnet um but their article is down so the
67:51
telegraph article is still live this is a restaurant there's actually a
67:55
different cnet article now but don't worry about it i i was trying to i
67:59
should have fixed the link i was trying to figure out earlier okay so this is
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there's a restaurant that promises free meal for good looking
68:08
now they've been forced to take down that sign yeah the local government
68:11
forced them to take down the stuff yeah like showed up with a wrecking crew it
68:14
was like we are taking down that sign because that's embarrassing but they
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have vowed to continue the promotion regardless the the the the how this
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works is there's a scanner and there's a panel of surgeons which are
68:29
uh plastic surgeons which are in cahoots with the restaurant first sponsorship
68:33
paying a sponsorship oh sorry dashboard now i always
68:37
for essentially advertisement so you can go there get told you're not good
68:40
looking and then be referred to those people to become better looking
68:45
oh ridiculous and so apparently it's not flat out like you're good looking uh you
68:51
get a free meal you're not good looking you get a full price meal it's like
68:56
there's a sliding scale so you could be pretty good looking and you could get
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like 30 off or something like i'm making up the exact numbers but
69:05
really like that's just that's just gross
69:09
and i'm not just saying this because i don't think i'd be getting a discount i just think that is absolutely one thing
69:14
i noticed is that op mr amp 12345 states
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in his second paragraph as someone who has uh had things given to me or gotten
69:23
discounts because of the clerk thought i was good looking i was unsure how i felt
69:27
about this so my new idea is that we as a lion
69:32
detectives community need to find amp one two three four five take him bring
69:36
him to the restaurant and then just all eat there until they're bankrupt
69:42
so we're gonna force feed amp no no he
69:45
can get all the food when he just eat it oh
69:48
i see i think they probably would catch on tonight it's a very smart idea though
69:53
you did very well thank you you did very well i'm very proud of you
69:57
i just want to utilize amp's obviously tried and true amazingly good looks this
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was posted by um this was posted by tedster and uh since we're on the topic
70:06
of just completely stupid things right now um this kickstarter
70:11
okay paul boyle i i it
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is 30 euros he probably did it himself
70:18
so well he has seven backers seven backers totaling 30 euros that
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doesn't even divide evenly made seven kickstarter accounts and then it got
70:27
bored and when ate a burger so i mean you can see that this is
70:31
clearly not intended to be serious but the plan is to reconstruct the player
70:35
michael's house from the game grand theft auto 5 to scale and the rewards
70:40
are ridiculous i mean um for okay so for
70:43
five thousand dollars you can stay there for three nights for four euros you get
70:46
pictures and a video of it
70:50
for 400 euros you get a personalized title with image and info of your choice
70:54
added to the bottom of michael's swimming pool for 900 euros you get to visit the house
70:58
and have a tour around it at your leisure and for 5 000 euros you get to
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visit and stay in it for three nights i just thought it was kind of funny he
71:07
figures he needs uh oh the faq this is pretty good who will
71:12
the house belong to will the donators get a share in the final build are you
71:16
giving it to charity no shares i'm afraid given the small chance that it's
71:20
funded the final build will be sold and donated to the choice of charity voted
71:24
by the backers which i mean the last time anyone
71:27
believed that a kickstarter for charity was actually going to a charity was uh
71:32
i don't know 2013. yeah not that long ago yeah oh story
71:36
hasn't been around that long no but yeah in internet years it's been
71:40
quite a while yep um
71:44
i don't know is there anything else interesting there's the not super amazingly interesting uh tesla news but
71:49
i can talk about it regardless sure yeah let's talk about the three um so there's
71:53
there's honestly not a ton to say this article exploded posted by victoria's
71:57
secret by the way yep this article exploded i can get this into the chat um
72:03
and it's kind of an interesting conversation but people were like oh my
72:06
god the tesla 3 is so amazing there's not actually that much information here
72:10
about the tesla 3. this is the the model x delays model x yeah um so
72:15
and once again we shouldn't be complaining about the delay even though it kind of sucks because they're saying
72:19
that they're just trying to do it right anyway they sold out like the first manufacturing year of this thing anyways
72:24
so whatever um anyways the feds give about 7 500 for
72:29
electric cars apparently this is in the states i don't really know so when chevy
72:34
came out and was talking about their bolt which is supposed to be a tesla competitor they were toting it as a 30
72:40
000 price tag vehicle
72:44
this is a response elon musk in an interview was like well
72:48
ours is what is 35 35 000 so using their
72:53
logic it's actually 27 500 right that
72:56
was the whole actual point of this article now this thing exploded this got
73:01
everywhere like automotive subreddit it was like massive at front page all this
73:05
kind of stuff it's all he's talking about is that it he didn't include
73:09
incentives in the price of thirty five thousand dollars that's all it really
73:13
was um uh as we already knew
73:17
going to be able to customize it add options a lot of things that are actually on the model s if you like
73:21
something very specifically it's on the model s you might be able to include it on your on your three but that will
73:26
obviously increase the cost so it could be more expensive in the end so your
73:30
version of the model 3 might end up being the same cost as a bolt
73:35
who knows because you can configure them yeah one cool quote that came from it
73:40
though which is interesting is that musk said the model 3 in brackets will be way
73:46
different from any other car on the road but in a way that's really useful and
73:49
doesn't just make it a weird mobile weird deal so i don't know what that
73:54
means um but yeah this i love tesla news
73:58
uh this exploded but it wasn't actually
74:03
yeah i don't know all right so this is this is interesting to me because i'm canadian sony is shutting all of their
74:08
canadian stores um i've got the article
74:11
here where's the last time you went to a sony store uh um
74:15
wow i posted it already
74:19
i totally get it because i don't think sony stores really have any reason to
74:24
exist especially when a lot of the time they were just a place where
74:28
you couldn't shop for any other brand of
74:32
product and the pricing wasn't better often worse because it wouldn't have the
74:36
same promotions because it's really awkward for most manufacturers apple
74:40
doesn't seem to give a rat sass but most manufacturers to have their own branded
74:44
store that competes head to head against their customers so they have to prove to
74:48
their customers whether it's a best buy or whoever else that they're not trying
74:51
to undercut them and steal customers from them and at the same time they have
74:54
to sustain their employees and the
74:58
retail spaces the one sony store i've ever been to the one time i went to it
75:02
was just terrible anyways they had a really bad selection of sony products
75:06
yeah so anyway so sony store closing stores oh apparently mex and jacob are
75:11
closing a whack of stores but for me the big one right now is actually target so
75:16
target opened up the canadian territory in
75:19
2012 i want to say i
75:22
thought it was thirteen i could be wrong was it thirteen have it hasn't i believe
75:27
it's been that short i think it's been two years i could be wrong though let me
75:30
well it's only barely 2015 right now anyway the point is uh target actually
75:34
purchased at least here in the at least here in bc all of these zeller's
75:39
locations when zellers went bankrupt and and disappeared um so they had a total
75:44
of 133 big box stores and they will be
75:48
exiting okay apparently they launched in canada in march 2013 so they didn't even
75:53
last two years and they will be shutting all of the stores putting 17 000
75:58
employees out of work and taking a 5.4
76:02
billion dollar loss in that period of time um
76:08
there's a lot of problems um one of the huge one was distribution
76:12
they came in and got 133 stores going but didn't have a
76:17
proper distribution chain for them so you'd have a lot of issues where you'd
76:20
go to target and there's just nothing on the shelves yeah so how are you supposed
76:24
to buy it how are they supposed to make any money so they just were hemorrhaging money didn't have distribution going
76:28
went in way too fast and way too hard totally screwed up and then their
76:32
solution was to just close everything and bail
76:36
so in under two years they got 133 stores going filled them with 17 600
76:41
employees fired all those employees closed all of those stores and took off
76:46
so uh target said exiting canada would allow to focus resources on the u.s
76:51
market um i i really i i mean it just it
76:57
so misguided i don't know and i've read one article that suggested
77:01
that you know the lack of um of of staples that that canadian
77:07
consumers are used to going down to target us and buying and bringing back
77:11
up here things that just don't exist in canada i can't remember what the example
77:15
of it was but um no i'm not actually it was it wasn't this article it was one
77:19
that suggested that you know the lack of the lack of some some chocolate
77:24
something or other might have been the reason for target's failure because maybe people walked in thinking they
77:28
were going to buy cool stuff that they're used to buying at target and they weren't able to
77:31
but honestly i don't think that has anything to do with it i think it was just too much too fast i mean we were
77:36
talking to uh to berkel about this before the show started and he's like
77:40
yeah they opened one in what did he say vernon vernon the open one in vernon
77:44
it's like there's not even that many people in vernon i mean did they even
77:47
check and they already have a walmart they like barely need a walmart and they already have one
77:52
and i think i think vernon has a costco too so it's like you're gonna go up
77:56
against costco and walmart which have been there for years already and you're
78:00
gonna just hope that what people magically sprout
78:03
from the earth and come shop in your store like try to build a sustainable business
78:08
model first and obviously i'm not an expert i've never run a big box store
78:12
but it just seems like there's a lot of mistakes in the past that we could have
78:15
learned from and this is actually just the target shutting down reminded me of
78:19
this i um my housing development that i live in was built about 30 years ago and
78:25
we still have from the previous owners the brochure
78:29
that like was like the sales brochure for people shopping for houses in that
78:33
neighborhood and it's really cool it's like an accessible place to live easily
78:38
accessible from virtually any direction the property is bounded by a bunch of
78:42
places the first project of its kind in this area blah blah provides quick
78:46
access to the interior of british columbia and to the rest of the lower
78:50
mainland on the other hand it's only two or three minutes away from um
78:56
okay so there's a shopping center home to woodward's
79:00
eaton's woolco marx and spencer and over 200 other fine
79:06
stores have you heard of any of them no
79:11
no a few minutes further you'll find simpson sears so okay sears okay simpson
79:17
sears and the bay okay the bag and
79:22
neither of them exists anymore
79:26
oh my goodness that is so hilarious
79:29
canada has proven to be an interesting market because of how we're laid out and
79:33
one of the huge important super crazy obvious things about opening a very
79:38
large amount of stores especially in somewhere super huge like canada is
79:41
freaking distribution what are you thinking like i like yes we're maybe not
79:46
the most educated people on opening a massive amount of stores but like do any
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amount of research at all look at how best buy came into canada which was
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actually a very effective takeover they bought future shop which was kind of our
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version of best buy um and then just took over all their warehouses they
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bought feature shop for their warehouses
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that was the reason because they're like oh distribution will be a problem let's
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solve that problem
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god that's so dumb like there could have been so many problems but their whole
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thing like well it was hard to make money when we couldn't keep things on
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the shelves because not not necessarily that too many people were buying them
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but we couldn't put things on the shelves because we didn't have them that's so bad we're getting a bunch of
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people talking about how apparently a couple of those are big over in over in
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europe and like that but that's exactly it like it's been tried and failed so
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many times that you would think um they would have done at least a
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couple sort of case studies and tried to make sure that they were going to have a
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chance of success in canada yeah or even open like five stores
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yeah and just slowly figure it out so you could lose uh let's let's see let's
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do let's do the rough napkin math so that's about
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150th as many stores as they opened so it would be 150th as much loss so like
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okay so a loss in the order of what tens or hundreds of millions as opposed to
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billions which is still a lot which is still a lot but less but and for a
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company of that size more growing pain size instead of oh my god complete
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failure size
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um there was a whole thing this week where
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apparently microsoft appeared to be not allowing
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youtubers to put the title of a game in
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the name of their youtube video but they've clarified uh it's apparently not
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that big of a deal you are apparently supposed to add a disclaimer in your description saying something along the
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lines of that the game was made by microsoft and the video is not endorsed
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by them there's official text for it this was posted by cobbs 360 on the
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forum and you're not allowed to mislead people into thinking it's a microsoft video but um i think that was just
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people freaking out over a wording issue i'm glad microsoft got it rectified
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pretty quick to be honest the main concern was that you couldn't call
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something like red versus blue the halo show
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or something along those lines like using the trademark incorrectly you had to come up with your own name if you
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were going to do something that was more along the lines of a show and less along
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the lines of strict gameplay or multiplayer footage but you could do like halo gameplay and it would be fine
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yeah as long as you have your disclaimer yep um
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lg had a nitrogen leak in their factory this was uh the original article is from
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independent dot co dot uk let's go ahead and pull that up very very unfortunate
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uh two were killed uh four have taken ill since the since the incident um
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basically not not a whole lot is known uh one of them died on the scene one of
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them died on the way to uh on the way to the hospital uh i mean does that
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something that we often don't consider about these electronic doodads that we
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enjoy so much is there's a lot of harmful and dangerous stuff that goes on
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uh in order to manufacture them um the nzxc doco this was posted by brown ninja
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on the forum original article here is from tech powerup promises 50 to 80
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milliseconds of latency and promises basically your your computer experience
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on well basically anywhere you want on your tv um luke has a review unit and i know
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he's planning to work on it maybe once you've got the motherboard roundup done there i've gotta do the motherboard
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roundup and maybe one other thing and then i'll probably be on doco yeah looks
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cool the only disadvantage right now so it's got usb ports and it uses usb over
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ip in order to make it so if you plug in a keyboard it's basically like having
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that keyboard plugged into the computer you're using i've been able to use it to
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a certain degree have you used it already i i'm not not uh my own unit but
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i was able to use it while it was still under engineering yes and the usb over
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ip is actually pretty freaking good cool i was able to use a keyboard and mouse
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and i was able to use a flash drive and i was able to use a um
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they plugged in the microsoft wireless dongle and then had me using a wireless
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controller which i was actually more worried about than just plugging in a controller directly but it worked
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totally fine that's awesome pretty cool um it's only 1080p 30fps but i'm hoping
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that we'll see a doku extreme or goku plus or something along
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those lines one thing that kicks the nps speak a little bit uh because it's not
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under nda anymore is that um
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the processing power and stuff in that unit is not exactly amazing right um
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and if there is a lot of interest shown they could release a higher end version
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right could do more FPS or whatever so
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yeah tell them that you want one okay well i
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think that's pretty much it for the show today guys thank you so much for tuning
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in we are planning to