Cooler Master Seidon 240M & 120 XL Liquid Coolers Unboxing & Overview

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2014-05-07 · 2,042 words · ~10 min read
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0:00 for a limited time only buy an Intel Core I5 or core i7 CPU and get a free
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0:09 click the link in the video description for more details welcome to a long
0:12 overdue unboxing of Cooler Master siden 120 XL and siden
0:17 240m liquid coolers now the first thing I noticed about these is check this out
0:24 Cooler Master has gone ahead and put compatibility for LGA 1150 right on the
0:29 box now it should be noted that LGA 1150
0:32 which is for Haswell or Intel Core i7 i5
0:36 and I3 fourth generation processors is
0:40 not really going to be any different from 1155 or 1156 in terms of heat SN
0:45 compatibility but I mean it's just one of those things where it's always it
0:48 always amuses me when there are coolers being announced and being shipped that
0:53 have compatibility for an upcoming socket when you actually can't buy said
0:57 socket yet so the main difference
1:00 between these two coolers is going to be in terms of the size which is a little
1:04 bit funny to me because the 120 is the
1:07 XL and the 240 is the m which in terms of North American sizing usually
1:11 indicates extra large and medium whereas the 240 mm one is definitely extra
1:16 larger than the mediumsized 120 mm one
1:20 so let's go ahead and check out what cooler Master's done in terms of
1:23 packaging here so these are liquid Co these are pre-done liquid coolers so
1:27 actually okay fine we'll start with the outside so they are maintenance free
1:30 they're designed for overclocking they use an ultra fine microchannel design
1:35 for the CPU block itself now what you're going to see right here guys is that
1:39 this is not an acch and it is not a
1:43 kolet design so Cooler Master has wanted to differentiate themselves from what
1:48 the other guys in the market are doing and they have done that by well not
1:52 doing what everyone else in the market is doing which is sort of one way to
1:56 differentiate yourself from what everyone else is doing on the back you
1:59 find I'll to find my mic channel so pretty much the same a hot durable and
2:02 Powerful water pump dissipates heat effectively and maintains temperatures
2:05 throughout the stable water circulation all that kind of good stuff okay so
2:09 let's go ahead and start with the 120 in terms of what's inside we've got some
2:13 foam on the top we've got mounting hardware which we will be unfamiliar
2:18 with because it is not the standard acch or kolet mounting hardware so let's go
2:23 ahead and see what we got here oh I love this nice solid pieces of everything see
2:29 see solid steel mounting plate so there's your AMD mounting hardware at
2:33 any rate all right there is your Intel mounting hardware so you can see that
2:37 screw is able to adjust in position see
2:41 moves over clicks into place just like that you've got a back plate for Intel
2:45 so this pops into uh different positions as well so it has full compatibility for
2:50 775 1155 1156 1150 2,1 1366 all the
2:55 sockets you could possibly want an AMD because they haven't changed their
2:58 mounting hardware in like a bajil Generations is pretty much the same as
3:01 before same thing here nice solid mounting screws these ones look like
3:05 they're for LGA oh oh they could be for
3:09 a number of different things but okay there you go again more solid pieces
3:14 here so it looks like the way it mounts is the back plate comes through the
3:18 board goes into one of these guys and then the cooler itself mounts to that
3:23 piece from the other side from the top I like this system there's a number of
3:26 different coolers that have used it in the past and I find it very solid very
3:30 sturdy and works very very well they've also included a splitter for the two
3:34 fans so there's a pwm splitter which is awesome because it means that you can
3:40 provide pwm control for both of the fans without actually or yeah without
3:45 actually um having to run one of them off of DC and I mean honestly a lot of
3:50 motherboards might have all the pwm fan connectors in the world on them but it
3:55 doesn't always work correctly uh so
3:59 there there you go it's nice to be able to split the CPU on a lot of the time
4:03 they aren't uh controllable to with the same degree of
4:07 finitude as the one for the CPU connector is so this is a nice touch
4:11 Cooler Master includes a couple of 120 mm fans and they also include a couple
4:16 of nice rubber isolating mounts for them
4:19 so you don't have to worry about any vibrations being transferred to your
4:23 case and causing your computer to be louder than necessary all right these
4:27 are intended to be installed in a push pull configuration cuz if you set them
4:31 both to push or both to pull you're going to have yourself one heck of a
4:37 problem this radiator is optimized for
4:41 um sort of I guess I'd go sort of mid-range in terms of do you have to
4:45 have high RPM do you have to can you get away with low RPM because the fin
4:49 spacing isn't particularly dense which is great for low RPM quiet operation but
4:54 it is a thicker radiator than you find on most 120 mm coolers meaning you'll
4:58 get a little bit more performance out of it but you also have to have a little
5:01 bit more static pressure to the fans in order to draw the air that you need
5:05 through it you can see how Cooler Master fills their water cooler so there's a
5:09 little warranty void if removed plug right there that shouldn't get in the
5:12 way of anything because once you go ahead and install a fan on it it's not
5:16 really any higher profile than a fan would be and they're using a/4 in
5:20 corrugated plastic tubing approach that has been in use for well years now on
5:25 these pre-filled liquid coolers and there haven't really been any notable
5:29 problems with them there's also a rotating uh fitting right here so you're
5:33 going to have the flexibility to mount it either sort of this way facing down
5:38 or if you rotate those like
5:42 that this way facing up just like that
5:47 it uses aluminum fins for the radiator itself but there are copper tubes as
5:51 well as copper tanks and a copper bottom for the block itself you can see they're
5:56 using a security bit here I actually have one of these so I could take it apart if I felt like it but they're
6:00 using a security bit to prevent users from taking apart the unit which is not
6:04 what it is intended for it is meant to be maintenance free and not opened up or
6:10 anything sort of bad like that all right so let's have a look at the 240 mm
6:14 version we've got two of the same fans uh it looks like the noise isolating
6:19 rubber mounts are not included at least on the fans themselves uh yes here they
6:24 are so those are included instead in a
6:28 very heavy I love heavy mounting hardware it makes me just feel that much
6:33 more reassured about it so there are a couple of them in with the rest of the
6:36 mounting hardware where there's thermal compound just like the 120 mm version a
6:40 fan splitter just like the 120 mm version and then just more of the same
6:45 mounting hardware so this is for um
6:48 instead of having it in two separate bags it looks like they've done just one
6:51 bag for the 240 mil version the radiator itself is a thinner
6:56 style radiator so you're going to see this one is I'd say mid thickness for
7:00 the 120 mil and then this is more like standard thickness and then there are
7:05 some that are actually larger and thicker than this one but those are
7:09 those are much more rare than these ones and that's for compatibility reasons not
7:12 all cases are compatible with the thicker style radiators this one in
7:16 order to make sure that it gets the performance it needs uses a much more
7:19 dense fin Arrangement right here so you can see that it's all about surface area
7:23 guys so if you have a thicker radiator
7:27 and you use a less dense fin Arrangement versus versus if you have a thinner
7:30 radiator and you use a more dense thin Arrangement what you've done is you've
7:33 actually in both cases increased the resistance to air passing through but
7:38 also increased your surface area and improved performance so generally
7:41 speaking the less dense the more optimized it is for low RPM fans and the
7:45 thinner it is the more optimized it is for low RPM fans whereas if you were to
7:49 put even double the density in here and put like you know jet turbine fans on it
7:54 you could squeeze more performance out of this form factor because surface area
7:58 is King and that's why the 120 dual 120
8:02 mm version will perform better than the single 120 mm version so you've got that
8:06 same fill Point here at the top that says do not tamper with or remove please
8:11 don't do that same corrugated plastic quarter inch fittings or hoses as well
8:16 as the same rotating fittings down here at the bottom attached to the same block
8:21 and pump combo this is why I did these unboxings together we've got a copper
8:25 plate at the bottom that looks looks flat anyway it's hard to oh no it's
8:29 bowed there you go I wonder if the other one is as well you can tell if you look
8:34 at them in the light just right yep they're both bowed so what that does is it increases contact pressure and
8:39 reduces temperatures uh as long as you design a mounting mechanism that's
8:43 correctly sort of optimized for it so if you have a CPU here and then you have a
8:47 bow so this is flat and this is Bowe and you have a bow surface and then you
8:50 clamp it down what can happen is you can end up with two flat mating surfaces
8:54 whereas if you take two flat mating surfaces and you clamp this down a lot at the edges you can end up with a C it
8:59 in the middle we discovered this or must have been back in around 2008 2009 dtec
9:04 figured it out with their Bode block that they were putting O-rings in in
9:08 order to to bow out the base of it and get a tighter mounting point so there's
9:12 a little water cooling history lesson for you Cooler Master is using a very
9:15 high quality sleeving on the connector so the pump is powered by a three pin
9:19 that you really can't see any of the color of the wires inside I like this it's a nice touch makes your build look
9:23 nice and they include of course detailed
9:27 instructions cooler Master's been doing liquid coolers for and just coolers in
9:31 general for a long time so I wouldn't expect anything
9:35 except nice detailed multilingual
9:39 instructions for every possible socket and everything labeled and all those
9:43 sort of good things done it looks like the same instructions for the 120 or the
9:46 240 mm don't forget to subscribe to lus Tech tips for more unboxings reviews and
9:51 other computer videos and thank you for checking out my video on the seiden 120m
9:55 and the or see I did it there the siden 12 XL and theid in 240 m