WAN Show DENNIS EDITION - July 20, 2018
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2019-05-06
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oh i really wish i could tell you guys why i'm late today but it's under
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embargo and i can't but it's really cool
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um well no but there's always a different
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reason and today the reason is actually really cool
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yeah we what's that i know yeah yeah
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Jake got kicked off hardcore
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all right so we've got a great show for you guys today dennis is going to be
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sharing with us his experience
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doing his very first episode of TechLinked that
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someone can someone zoom us in a little bit more we have we're like we're like
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swimming in the frame here if you don't mind oh that would be great thank you
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yeah i like to get close and intimate you know come on come on over here
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see dennis has never dennis has never been on lance i have so have you not for
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an entire show are you on the entire show no no i never
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actually um also where the devil are my other adapters Jake on my desk you have
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one dongle i wonder all right so dennis hosted his very
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first episode of tech links today they
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requested and it was pretty cringy from
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what i saw oh it was nice don't don't bump the table because the
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mic is attached to it it was pretty cringy from what i saw
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but uh maybe i missed uh some parts of it that were going smoothly that maybe
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maybe were great so can you go ahead and
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um let me know uh how that was for you
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so brandon was shooting it was fine i was
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he was okay so hold on brandon don't go away
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let dennis finish how did it go dennis in the beginning it was kind of hard to read some some words
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like right for pronunciation yeah some words are hard so so
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riley has to change the word like what's the word i couldn't pronounce i don't
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remember and he just turned to something very simple like just say great okay and
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i just use that word or like better something like that he just used some
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words he uses too hard for me right and i think it's good it's good you should
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watch the video it's coming out very soon i think okay out of 10 brandon
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oh i think it's better than okay you did better than my first time on
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camera so 6.5 6.5 okay
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so today's episode of TechLinked don't miss it six and a half out of ten
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quality but fortunate
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fortunately we have at least fixed the uh the stream quality of the WAN Show um
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some of you are speculating that we might have uh upgraded to a different
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camera no all we did was change the uh the video settings to
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the same as we used on the lg ultra wide
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streamed pc build yesterday and
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it looks so good bippity boppity fix oh brandon says we've also fixed some of
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the lighting as well so so the reality of it is that the lights in question are
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like 60 dollar soft boxes off being brandon
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these are nothing fancy right i don't think nothing fancy
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and the camera is identical the capture
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hardware is identical we've just been doing it that wrong for that long so on
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that note uh let's get this WAN Show epic fail party started
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you know they can hear you right now right and then can i hear you oh my god
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all right so we have got a great show for you guys
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today we got a bunch of cool topics apple's new macbook pro throttles so bad
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so bad that we had to do a dedicated
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live stream today to show how we could get it to throttle from being inside the
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packaging to thermal throttled in less than 20 minutes and we probably could
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have done it a lot faster if i had any idea what the heck i was doing with a
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macbook and if it was already unboxed we could we could have done it in like one
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minute um okay so a number of different
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publications have talked about this so we'll talk about our results as well as
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others in other news the new macbook pro keyboard does apparently have crumb
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protection why is crumb protection crumb protection we will go through that in
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more detail once we get to that news topic this is the part where we tease
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them you know it's like it's like the news segment that's like make sure you
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watch the news at 11. you know like oh
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uh coffee could give you aids in your mouth more at 11 and you're like no i
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need to know now the hook it's a hook yeah it's the hook see dennis has
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learned so much about making videos since since he got here like when i
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first met him he was like yeah i'm gonna make a video about an interview and i'm
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gonna have a picture of hitler in the background lance why did he mention this
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every time and i have to explain this every time just forget about that it's
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not true it is true it's 100 true when i interviewed dennis
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on skype he had a poster of hitler on the wall
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behind him see now he's trying to he's trying to run away from the truth but it
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was the truth okay it does require a little bit more context well you know
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what we're going to talk about that later too um the ryzen 300s or 3000 series
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may have more than eight cores this is a
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rumor over at uh tech powerup MSI apparently
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has dropped some hints and finally yet another CPU rumor Intel chips the new
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ones coming may finally on the consumer
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side have soldered ihs's maybe Intel has
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finally bowed to the pressures it would it be
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bowed or bowed look who i'm asking forget it bowed to the pressure probably okay
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all right so why don't we jump into our first topic here dennis's hitler poster
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oh that okay why did you have a poster of hitler
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on the wall behind you so when i interviewed you for a job i did not
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i didn't remember that i have that on
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on my wall and that is as a reference about something that the
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political issue that we had back then in taiwan didn't actually mean about
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hillary he said it has some chinese character on that but you just didn't
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understand so i misunderstood your hitler poster
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it's not i'm like appreciated twitch chat dennis did
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nothing wrong oh yeah that
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i no i'm not saying dennis did nothing wrong but
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and let's get let's get those let's get that chopped out so we can take that out
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of context right i'm not saying dennis did nothing wrong
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it's just that dennis had a poster of hitler on the wall behind him during a
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job interview that was a mistake but the poster didn't
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mean it poser was like being like against this guy it's like
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no no right but i didn't have a symbol like no
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but it didn't have a symbol it has chinese but it has chinese characters
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that mean no i wish i have a picture of it but i don't have it it's gone it's already gone i think my
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mom took it we should totally do a new shirt oh like a dentist did nothing wrong
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shirt with we could just get some sharpie and give you a little uh
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muscle actually you know what we're not gonna do that as a general
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as a general rule uh Linus tech tips
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tries to stay pretty um you know pretty
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uh pg friendly you know maybe not even
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yeah oh come on how much time have you spent
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on youtube people are like i would buy a shirt no
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no no no no no no but have they seen my the new shirt
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we sell at ltx uh wait is that listed
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online yet i don't think so
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it's so it's been it's only sale uh we only sold them at otx seriously so we
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don't even have it listed online do you have one here should i go grab it you should go grab it
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we could totally do a variant of like the dennis shirt
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oh man yeah that would be awesome this thing is like it's a it's a it's a it's
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a moving meme like once you put it on it's a wearable it's a completely
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wearable meme i i actually had no i
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honestly i don't know about a lot of the shirt designs that they work on these
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days until they show up on the store or
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like at a meetup apparently um so there's
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there's a couple things in the store here that i'm just gonna i'm gonna pop
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up here i actually haven't tested my my screen cap to see if it's working yet oh
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it is cool so this one for example the
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troll Linus shirt the name is real they were actually
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trolling me when they created it uh this one someone showed up at the
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meetup wearing this this was an a prime initiative
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absolutely horrible it is every bit as
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awful in person as it looks online and the way that it's printed is actually
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really nice like it looks crisp and then even like everything
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under the armpits the whole thing is printed with horrible thumbnail faces
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and then of course they created this mess
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go ahead yeah stand up
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oh my god this was supposed for a b-roll
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we we did and i don't know why they took it down
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they took it out from the i think it's s age review or something
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really they took that out of the video it's very distasteful i i don't
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i don't i don't agree with you i think it's fine
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like so every time someone brought me one of these at the show i was going out of my
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way i know i saw so many you you like drew on my uh my eye and a mustache yeah
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so i was defacing all of the dennis shirts whenever i had time like if there
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were like 30 people in front of you actually there's a lot of time oh yes
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there was one oh was there one where i like didn't i color in your an entire
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eye patch on your eyes yes that one took so long but i was like you
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know what this is 100 worth it
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yeah so this shirt is not available online yet
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no not yet oh okay are we gonna put it online
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i don't know maybe maybe not maybe i don't know i mean honestly i think it's
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kind of fun to have like exclusive merch that's only available at something like
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a meetup i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing um actually we should have we even when
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was ltx last sunday i mean time's a blur for me
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it hasn't we haven't done a WAN Show since ltx last saturday how was it what
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did you think oh it was crazy i think i think we have more people this year
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right uh oh quite a few more we have uh over
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1100 people some just almost 1200 people show up this year it's a lot okay so
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most of the people most of the people i met they are not
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from canada like most they are mostly from the state australia
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uh uk they're from everywhere okay i have a confession yeah hold that thought
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that stresses me out a lot so the night before i was actually
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having like a panic attack a little bit and honestly like everything was fine i
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actually apologized to Colton steph afterward for freaking out but it got to
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the point where i actually asked them
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um okay how much are we in this for
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and they gave me a total number it was more than 10 000 but less than 100
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and so i was like and my initial my immediate response was and i've i felt
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so bad for saying this i was like okay then so worst case scenario were
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out however many thousands of dollars it was and we just refund everyone and they
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were like what did you just say
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because basically i was so worried about
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a few things that i was like i was i i thought i thought we were
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going to be tanacon 2.0 and and this was
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just me freaking out because and then and then like it didn't even
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make me feel better for longer than like two seconds because what i realized
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based on how huge the international audience was the last time that a lot of
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people were gonna be in this for hundreds or maybe even over a thousand
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dollars to come attend so that was actually where the idea came from to
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allow decoration of my car oh yeah that's
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right this guy this guy right here i ruined your car
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actually that was that's for me last on the way like we we drove back from uh
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ltx midnight like midnight and we're trying to figure out more things to do
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yeah and i thought i didn't know they would do that much though i thought just
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like outside and they like throw everything in the in your car so
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initially we were thinking spray bombs
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and that would have been way worse that would have been a disaster
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what i think we should have done was just sharpie markers
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no i think what you should have done is just lock your doors and oh no i was okay with them decorating
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the inside yeah well so my seat belt doesn't work right now oh oh my god yeah
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it was working before but this driver yeah the driver's side doesn't work it's
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like jammed or something i actually you need to that's too dangerous to drive
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yeah so so and so so anyway um
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i was just having this panic attack because i was freaking out anyway i
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apologize to them later because honestly the event was a lot of fun and i let you
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finish your thought now i'm sorry dennis you forgot i don't remember
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i don't okay so there a lot of people fly flying from everywhere and
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and there's a even like someone like just arrived from
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like from china and bring his luggage and his mom to the event
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like with two big logs i have to help them to like store the
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luggage so i even think like we might need a locker for them next year wow
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that's crazy like 10 12 hours flight
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anyway yes no we do not plan to offer refunds because we consider the event a
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success now it was fun we actually got a ton of really positive user feedback in
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fact um marquez tweeted about how um he
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really was wasn't happy with a verge article that was about another youtuber
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convention that was poorly organized and a disaster and he kind of goes yo
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where's the positive headline for ltx i've heard nothing but positive things
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and that's cool because a lot of the time people will say something positive
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to your face like if i walk up to someone i'm like hey how are you
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enjoying ltx it's like when the waiter comes to your table like if your food
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sucks do you ever say yeah this food is trash you're not getting a tip today
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like uh some i i just i saw it depends what if
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it's just like on the low side of mediocre
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if they come along how's everything going with your meal that's a it's okay
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yeah it's okay so there that's not that's not useful so so if i so if i
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walk up to someone i'm like hey how's the how's ltx and people are like oh
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yeah it's good i have no way if they're just like shy
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and they think it's good or if they're like
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kind of unhappy and they're like oh yeah it's good
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because i don't know i'm meeting all these people for the first time i can't really i can't really read them so so
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it's way more important to us to hear what other people say now i
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actually haven't done it yet i need to set aside an hour for myself and jay
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made a video barnacles made a video and steve from
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gamersnexus oh yeah he did a really unusual video did you check it out i
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haven't seen any of them so i only skimmed a little bit of it so far so i
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haven't taken away all of my thoughts from it yet but steve
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used the opportunity of coming up here for ltx to enjoy my city my hometown he
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went up to the uh to the bike trails up on whistler and he did some downhill
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biking i saw that and recorded his thoughts on ltx while just like cruising
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down the trails i thought that was really cool and that's a really unusual thing for him to
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do and he even said he apologizes for
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making the video right in the description yeah because he just wasn't
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sure if people were gonna like it um i saw that but
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here let's check this out reviewing Linus tech tips ltx while downhill
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biking at whistler uh here what's he say
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um we'll be posting more serious content from the event later including an
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interview oh no i think he took down the apology oh
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no there it is no it was a comment he pinned his own comment hey all obviously
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not normal content for us we've had non-stop travel for a few months we hope
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you'll excuse this one-off different content piece for now
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i thought it was i thought it was really cool to see people come up here
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experience something different engage with the community and do something
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different not just make normal convention content because we're not
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trying to be computex or c yes
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it's supposed to be it's supposed to fill a gap and honestly this year even
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though our attendance only went from about 800 to about 1200 so it's like a
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50 uptick which is a success yeah um but
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it's still not huge it's not like we're packs all of a sudden
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i think the difference in creator attendance
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is what is the difference between ltx 2017 being like a Linus tech tips fan
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meetup and ltx 2018 being a more
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impactful industry event the fact that you've got guys like jay and steve and
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louis rossman was there for a little while and barnacules showing up and
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having a good time uh barnacles emailed me after the fact and said that he had a
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really hard time making a vlog there yeah and the reason was that he was
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spending so much of his time interacting with fans i know yeah and
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all three um steve i haven't actually talked to louis yet but uh steve
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barnacules and um and jay all talked to
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me and said they were surprised at how many people there were fans of
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their channels because they kind of came into it like they came into it to
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support us like we asked them really nicely to come they weren't paid to
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attend or anything the most the most we were able to offer was like look ltx is
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not a super profitable event and it's still not but we'd love to pay for your
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hotel and your flight um if you if you can come up and be part of this
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for us and uh not just for us for the community
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and they decided to do it and they came up and they were like yeah i was
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surprised at how many people here were here for me
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and i was like that is so cool um so so that's where ltx turns a
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corner and becomes not just about us but also about
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other people and other creators that can be there there was one other one that i
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was really hoping would be there but he got pulled aside for for a separate
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thing anyway all three of them have expressed interest i'm not going to
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commit anything on their behalf but all three of them have expressed interest in
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coming back coming back next year which is super amazing and cool because
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vancouver has like nothing for tech events we've got like siggraph
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which is i don't really know very like animation industry like computer design
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industry like it's not it's not consumer yeah so
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i'm excited i'm really looking forward to next year already
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me too but then the night before i'm probably going to be like yeah i don't
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everything is a decision it will be fine
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i know you know people are making so much effort to this and
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i know you stress out but maybe do your car again like buy a new car and let's
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do that again or you know what fire helicopter or
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something i do i do have to say though
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i i think an event really needs
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something impactful something truly memorable something
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really different ltx 2017 had the first first ever
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threadripper running we had someone game on threadripper for the first time there
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that was really cool okay ltx 2018 had
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the car yeah nobody who tagged that car is ever gonna
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forget that yeah so even though my car is destroyed
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100 worth it i would destroy my car for the community
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mind you my car is only worth a couple hundred dollars literally asked how much
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when i went to buy my minivan that was a trade-in they were they
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offered like two or three hundred dollars or something which is basically what you can get from
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like a recycler yeah and i was like
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i wouldn't take it if you want to get it for free really
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it runs first that's a standard card
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oh don't no don't hate on standards standard is good stuff no the the
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windshield's like broken and leaking and all that well it doesn't leak anymore
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really did you fix it my mechanic traced the
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yeah i think here i think you're being a hater
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um oh och attack asks when can we expect more creators on Floatplane so luke's
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not here today as you guys may or may not have noticed because he is working
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on some Floatplane stuff that's super important we've got some payments and
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reporting stuff that we've really got to get sorted out before we can move
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forward with some of the bigger plans and that's why it actually means a lot
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to us that kyle and tech deals are over
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there and kind of helping us ride out these bugs now there there are they are
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getting paid they have people subscribing to them and like things are
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working but we're not ready to take on
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like you know a huge creator like if pewdiepie came to us tomorrow and was
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like i want in on this Floatplane thing i
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would have to turn him away i'd have to i'd have no choice just because we're
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not ready yet the actual cdn
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architecture is really good and that's what we've spent a lot of our time on so
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you don't get to see a lot of a lot of the actual engineering that has
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gone on to make it really strong and sustainable
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we could scale it up actually very quickly but some of the other stuff the
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reporting the payments need some tweaking we actually had an issue where
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some people were some people were having payment issues
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and their support tickets were going to spam and they weren't ending up in our
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in our management system and so i i had to send us some very apologetic emails i
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felt really really bad about that but um like we're that's why we don't want a
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million users overnight um all right so
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did we do like a news topic or something i guess yeah yeah yeah i mean you know
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it's pretty flexible like we don't have to does it matter maybe why don't we
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just talk about something because i i don't really know any of
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this you want me to talk about something you can do okay
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um okay hold on um um
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oh that flip phone wait wake up flip phone no no no no no okay that's the
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about same song you're drunk you're drunk
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ah wow okay oh man
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okay you know what we're gonna do this topic anyway the original article is
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from techcrunch uh let's go ahead and pop Linus's screen up here disney
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streaming services resurrecting the clone wars and i was like oh yeah i'll
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get dennis to do this everyone knows star wars oh god star wars again we just
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talk about him tiggling star wars is culturally relevant i don't watch star
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wars why because i just don't like fake stuff like
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efficient i mean like you don't like what efficient fishing fiction fiction
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you don't like fiction i don't and i don't like
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long movies either yeah that's like three hours long right two three hours
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well this is a tv show but oh such a star wars some of the star wars movies
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are on the long side so what movies do you like i like
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actually um i like tv showing i like the office you like
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the office oh it's this is the best okay so star wars is nothing like the office
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no no no no no you can't beat the author do you like superhero movies
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i watched and last week yeah it's it's
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cool okay i mean i'm not like a big fan of
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heroes you're not a big fan of heroes okay uh so you don't like heroes okay
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you don't like it it was fun to watch okay so you like
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kind of an irreverent sort of um dark
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humor yes okay
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yeah okay star wars doesn't have a lot of that yeah also i don't like low up
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ring you don't like lord of the rings um you know what i'm not even gonna give
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you too hard of a time for that i mean
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okay are you talking lord of the rings trilogy or like the
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hobbit i don't know what you're talking about it's that movie
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i don't know what you're talking about the movies the movies they're both
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movies oh okay i don't know just how about both
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i watched you know what i fell asleep i just you fell asleep
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during which one you don't even know oh i don't know okay were there hobbits
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i'm just kidding that's not helpful they're on all of them
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i don't know uh would you like do you like monty python
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what is that you don't know monty python you know
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what i'm gonna give you some i'm gonna give you some some tv homework okay okay
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cause i wanna understand what makes you tick are you familiar with life's too
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short i think okay i think i've been trapped
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with the office for too long because i've been watching that show like for almost two years i just rewatching
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re-watching and i'm just a digger to it
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really so i just can't get out of it okay i need to try to okay something new
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i'm gonna get you something new and uh you will like it
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okay if you like the i like that kind of humor okay do you like the american
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office or the british american american i don't get british humor okay
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oh oh you gotta oh okay no i don't
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okay okay uh
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do you have a hard time understanding the accent oh yes that too oh crap yeah
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i i yeah i have i can only honestly american you
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only understand americans well then it's it's a wonder that you managed to hang
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around with me because i don't speak american canadian i know what you same thing i
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know i mean the accents all this i truly i can't tell you is this a shot at me
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for saying that taiwanese and chinese same thing because
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you kind of owed me one like in fairness to you you owed me one accident i can't
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tell seriously i cannot tell your accent or someone from
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you can't tell like me or john i can tell that okay but that's very no no
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because west coast like pacific west coast
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or pacific northwest especially sorry not pacific west coast it's all pacific
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if it's west coast uh pacific northwest like anyone from
27:31
oregon through to washington up like through bc like along the west coast we
27:36
all sound the same okay yeah but can you tell though um no oh okay oh no like i
27:40
could meet someone from from washington state or from oregon i'd have no idea
27:44
that they're all really canadian no i wouldn't know okay whereas like eastern
27:47
canadian or like southern us eastern u.s
27:51
there you can pick it up like pretty how about toronto uh toronto i don't notice
27:56
much no not really like like the the metropolitan area is not not too much
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okay um all right so let's go ahead and
28:03
talk about this clone wars thing so this is it's unfortunate luke's not here
28:08
on the show today because he will either be amped about this or he won't because
28:12
i know that he really liked the original series and was super mad at sort of what
28:17
disney's been doing with some aspects of animated star wars so
28:21
it ran on cartoon network for five seasons is coming back it was the adventures of anakin and obi-wan as well
28:25
as some new characters during the clone war
28:29
fans praised its ability to showcase a wide range of stories characters and
28:32
even genres and it was cancelled after disney's acquisition of lucasfilm with a
28:36
final batch of episodes known as the lost missions airing on netflix
28:40
uh characters and story elements were subsequently incorporated into the
28:44
animated series star wars rebels which is more kitty and even into the latest
28:47
film solo okay fortunately that's not a spo i still haven't seen solo
28:51
fortunately that's not a spoiler for me though because i
28:54
never watched the clone wars so yesterday they announced that clone wars
28:58
will return for 12 more episodes and it will air on disney's upcoming streaming
29:02
service and they appear to be the end of the clone wars story so all they're doing is
29:07
kind of closing it out and they are treating this as a way to
29:11
get people onto their streaming service as a general consumer and not
29:16
necessarily the techiest person of all time
29:20
how do you feel about the concept of having to subscribe to multiple
29:24
streaming services to access different shows so you know how gaming used to all
29:28
be on steam oh yeah yeah yeah and then all of a sudden we had ea origin oh i
29:33
actually don't like it and then we had ubisoft's uplay and now we've got epic
29:37
games launched i know i know yeah
29:40
i like to keep it simple so
29:44
would you
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simply issue a new streaming service
29:52
in favor of simplicity and just go no i'm only going to subscribe to one thing
29:55
if you want me to watch it that bad make sure it's on let's say netflix for
29:58
example yeah like that's the yeah yeah yeah like
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if there's another service like like netflix
30:07
i would it's like mindy project the second season so that i think i don't
30:12
remember it was on hulu before yeah only on hulu yeah so so you just i wouldn't
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pay to what i was only on netflix i'm not gonna pay for that but
30:21
it still depends on how much you love the show though if the office is like gone on netflix i
30:27
will subscribe to hulu would you unsubscribe from netflix
30:31
is the anchor show the most important thing to you this is
30:34
ooh this is interesting okay
30:38
i don't know ah if that if that platform has like really
30:43
other good shows as well i would answer
30:46
uh netflix really then i will follow that one okay
30:50
interesting so uh oh yeah Jake's gonna have to come
30:55
get it come get that you can get it uh all right so anyway disney
31:01
man it's probably gonna be successful but i'm i'm really frustrated because
31:06
part of the entire beauty of cable cutting was that you could get rid of
31:11
that you know at least here anyway you know 70 to over a hundred dollars
31:17
monthly fee that you were paying and you could replace it entirely with your
31:21
internet plus maybe like if you get a basic netflix subscription i think it's
31:25
what like 7.99 if you don't get uh 4k
31:28
nine nine 9.99 i don't know anymore i've got the i've got the 4k one which i
31:33
think is 13. oh yeah i don't know i don't even have 4k tv yeah so um
31:38
what what's up ed you're a bit out of focus i'm oh i'm
31:41
leaning back that's the problem i can i can stop doing that i'm sorry um
31:46
so that was the beauty of it was that you could get all of your content and
31:50
your internet for for one low price instead of having to get internet and
31:54
content but now with more and more content providers
31:57
working on building streaming platforms there's nothing we're going to be able
32:02
to do if we want to have access to an
32:05
all-you-can-eat style of content consumption there's nothing we're going
32:09
to be able to do to avoid the rates starting to creep up
32:14
like all of a sudden you're going to be subscribed to netflix and hulu and
32:19
disney and you know comcast uh what's um
32:23
what's that thing that the vessel team left and went to i mean for that matter
32:27
Floatplane you might subscribe to individual creators
32:30
uh what's that creative tv no not crave that's a local thing i think um
32:35
oh i can't i can't remember it was like something that i couldn't figure out why
32:39
anyone would care about um verizon's uh streaming service
32:46
uh well there's so many blah blah blah blah blah blah i think hulu doesn't work
32:50
in canada that's and oh yeah i did look at that apparently
32:55
they killed it in may oh the verizon tv streaming service is
32:59
probably oh wow oh wow these articles are brutal
33:06
holy crap here hold on i'll screen share with you guys so you can read along with
33:10
me here so this one is probably not going to happen this one's not too bad verizon is
33:15
finally putting its terrible streaming service out to pasture says bgr.com no
33:21
one even seems to know what it was go 90 go 90.
33:25
it made multi-billion dollar takeovers of aol and yahoo brands known for
33:30
providing email scams to seniors and leaking billions of customer accounts wow this is a very this is a very uh
33:35
colored account of things and now go 90
33:38
it's public and very expensive millennial friendly online streaming
33:42
service i think
33:46
the key to creating something that doesn't appeal to millennials is
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trying to target millennials
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like what does that even mean what is a millennial-oriented streaming service
34:01
you're technically a millennial what's that word
34:05
okay so millennials i forget what exactly the
34:09
millennial age here so it's a it's a generation so anyone born between 1981
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and 1996. yeah i am yep so i'm at the
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outer i'm at the older end and you're i absolutely i'm still you're solidly in
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there so what would what would appeal to you as a millennial
34:26
what would appeal to me like like what exactly exactly
34:32
um money money oh forget it
34:38
i don't uh i don't know you're a marketing
34:41
executive okay you have to market to millennials
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like something like
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fun like um
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that's fine you're not a marketing executive that's okay uh speaking of
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yeah i think i saw it did he actually have something that could have been perceived as being racist in there
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topics now i feel like we haven't actually had a lot of the news so why
39:36
don't we get on that uh apple's new macbook pro thermal throttle is pretty
39:41
friggin hard so the original article here is from nine to five mac i can't
39:44
remember if these guys were one of the ones that unfairly slammed me over the
39:49
imac pro thing and now feels bad but hasn't said anything
39:53
actually were these guys the ones that claimed in their article that they
39:57
reached out to me but actually i never heard from them
40:01
that would be interesting maybe i don't want to promote these guys
40:05
nine to five mac imac Linus let's see
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uh story of resentment ill-informed
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youtuber oh no that's apple insider hold on a second
40:17
imac Linus uh broken
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let's see apple insider mac rumors
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okay no okay i don't i don't actually i don't actually see anything on nine to
40:29
five mac okay cool nice guys nine to five mac
40:32
um here's how it throttles with final cut pro x exports yeah so we actually
40:38
did a stream of that today from my office where after uh seeing
40:43
dave lee's video i was like okay well let's see how long it'll take us from
40:48
packaged to thermal throttling
40:51
with the macbook pro with the 2018 macbook pro we got the core i9 version
40:55
so that's like a 7 000 notebook that
41:00
thermal throttles if you hit it with a really intense load
41:04
basically immediately and then if you hit it with a less
41:07
intense load after like a couple minutes
41:12
it's pretty brutal and it's something that i'm
41:16
starting to not like wonder if apple is doing on purpose but it's something that
41:20
i'm starting to get really frustrated that apple is doing on purpose so the
41:25
original macbook you guys may or may not remember this but we did a video where
41:28
we water cooled it that was a passively cooled machine if i recall correctly
41:33
it's been a while um but we water cooled it by basically taking the entire
41:37
machine putting some like putty in the screw holes and then like putting it in
41:42
a tray of water that wasn't so deep that it would come up and go into the ports
41:45
or into the keyboard and we were able to get something to the tune of nearly
41:49
double the performance out of it but that was supposed to be a thin and light
41:53
it was supposed to be a computer with
41:57
unprecedented um like unprecedented
42:02
like portability that was that was the whole point of it um
42:08
and so this is a pretty different type so so basically we accepted it
42:13
but now they're doing this with
42:16
professional machines like the imac pro that thermal throttles like crazy and we
42:21
opened it up we saw the thermal solution it was very
42:25
clearly not going to handle
42:28
a vega graphics card and you know up to an 18 core processor
42:33
apple ships that thing with up to an 18 core processor
42:37
um and then now this macbook pro where they went and without making significant
42:42
changes to the thermal solution which already had a hard time with the core i7
42:46
that was in it before then when they put two more computing cores in it they when
42:49
they put a core i9 in it so your performance actually isn't any
42:54
better but apple's charging you more for it and on paper it seems to be faster so
42:59
it's gotten to the point now where it looks
43:03
not like bad design but it looks like intentional deception
43:08
like if you bought a car okay that was
43:11
600 horsepower instead of 400 horsepower
43:14
yes horsepower is not the be-all and end-all of carb speed we know
43:19
but if you bought a car that was 600 instead of 400 horsepower but there was
43:22
some other component inside it that limited it so that both of them
43:26
delivered 350. how mad would you be if
43:29
you paid for the extra package and why did they sell me that why do we accept
43:34
this from apple i like you make it like easier for me to understand what you're
43:38
trying to say yeah now i get it because i
43:42
i couldn't contribute anything you need to do that i mean ours was throttling
43:47
well under its base clock even just doing things like exporting in final cut
43:52
very frustrating
43:55
so i don't know i just uh it so they have something to limit their
44:01
something well the problem is that if you hit it with a really hard load the CPU reaches 100 degrees basically
44:06
instantly oh and so it'll it'll turn itself down to protect itself
44:11
that's that's a safety mechanism that Intel has built into the chip because
44:15
otherwise i mean if you just let it get as hot as it wants you could you could
44:18
cook on it and it would it would burn itself out very quickly
44:22
oh people are like Linus you aren't supposed to encode on a laptop uh
44:29
why is dance wearing two glasses i'm also wearing two shirts
44:33
yeah yeah it's really hot that's fine okay this is actually how i wear my
44:36
sunglasses oh really i just put them over really i
44:40
i lost my uh the one with chris prescription
44:44
what's wrong with and you can't really tell if this is yes you can you can yes
44:48
sunglasses you can tell it's only the same shape
44:52
i seriously though i do that every day
44:55
and no one look at me like weird ever i
44:59
maybe you just can't tell the difference between how they normally look at you and how they look at you when you're
45:03
wearing two pairs of sunglasses excuse me like maybe the shirt was already
45:06
enough that they were going to be looking at you whatever way they oh yeah fine fine
45:12
oh man okay uh in other news um
45:17
in an internal document distributed to apple authorized service providers apple
45:21
has confirmed the third generation keyboard on the 2018 macbook pro is
45:25
equipped with a membrane to quote prevent debris from entering the
45:29
butterfly mechanism so publicly apple has only said that it
45:33
features an improved third generation keyboard for quieter typing
45:36
but some people suspected that the silicon membrane was actually to prevent crumbs
45:42
from getting into it and ruining it this is another thing that's very frustrating
45:45
about apple that they can't just communicate openly with their audience
45:48
like we make mistakes and most of the time
45:53
people are actually pretty cool like if you're like hey we screwed up
45:58
sorry people will be like
46:02
cool just please don't do that again maybe the idea is that apple doesn't
46:05
want to have that conversation because if people say don't do that
46:09
again and they're already like the the and the channels of communication are
46:13
open then they have to commit not to do it again and they don't want to
46:17
is that is that the issue here probably i don't know
46:21
very frustrating uh in other news ryzen 3000 series might
46:26
have more than eight cores so i guess this wouldn't be that
46:30
huge of a surprise i mean a big key of the design of AMD's zen
46:36
architecture their ryzen processors was the modular design that allows them to
46:40
kind of to use Intel's terminology just glue
46:45
processors together so if they wanted to have uh if they wanted to take
46:49
threadripper let's say from 16 cores last generation to up to 32 cores this
46:53
generation all they'd have to do is glue together some ccx modules so MSI has
46:59
dropped a hint that AMD might be countering Intel's rumored
47:04
eight core 1151 processor
47:08
with a 12 core processor
47:11
so mainstream mainstream computers are all
47:15
of a sudden like heavily heavily multi-core or at least
47:20
if these rumors are true that will be true in the near future i'm personally
47:23
excited to see the next couple of years as these trickle down to the actual
47:27
mainstream and we get to start experiencing programs that were built
47:32
from the ground up for a very multi-threaded world
47:37
what else is cool um
47:41
wd's shutting down one of their hard drive factories now to be clear it's not
47:45
like they're it's not like this is their only factory and it's not like hard drives are going i think this is the one
47:49
in malaysia yeah that's in techwing so they're just uh they're just shutting
47:53
down some of their hard drive manufacturing i mean hard drives are becoming less of a
47:57
consumer product and they're becoming more of an enterprise product that's
48:01
just the transition that's happening or or prosumer like we still have more hard
48:06
drives in the building than we do ssds fun fact do you know that i don't know
48:11
but the reason you don't know that is that none of them are in your computer
48:16
oh yeah your laptop runs an SSD your desktop runs an SSD i don't even have a
48:22
hard drive but we could never run anywhere near the kind of operation that
48:26
we do if we didn't have some hard drives because the cost
48:30
to capacity ratio for hard drives is still much better than solid-state
48:35
drives so if you have any kind of bulk data needs you're going to need hard
48:38
drives for a long time a corning
48:43
oh corning announced gorilla glass 6. yes that's what you need mine is that's
48:46
fun that's why you need look look why you need it you know what's funny is
48:49
i've actually broken very few screens in my day
48:54
but i finally broke my iphone 6 like two nights ago oh wow yeah i was i was
48:59
listening to something in the bathroom
49:02
and um i like was grabbing a towel or
49:06
something and i kind of dropped it a bit and then when i went to catch it i ended
49:10
up like pushing it with the towel or something instead of actually catching it i thought you could and i effectively
49:14
threw it at the floor like it was it was propelled towards the
49:19
floor face down boom screen cracked it's funny last i dropped my phone so
49:23
many times this is essay it's got a grip on it though
49:27
oh something i didn't have it oh yeah i guess you didn't okay so
49:32
like not even a scratch i don't have any protection
49:35
like it's just so strong i don't know why
49:40
so gorilla glass 6 will apparently survive up to 15 drops from one meter
49:44
height and can be up to two times better than gorilla glass 5. now with that said
49:49
gorilla glass 5 wasn't known for being the most impact resistant one or wasn't
49:53
no that one wasn't very scratch resistant it was impact resistant so it
49:57
should survive drops from higher heights but more importantly has been engineered
50:00
to survive multiple drops and it should have the same amount of scratch
50:04
resistance as previous generations it's in production now and is available to
50:07
smartphone makers so it's expected to reach the market in the next several
50:11
months oh how much would i love it if the rumored upcoming note device
50:16
had gorilla glass 6. that would be super exciting
50:20
um
50:23
all right i think that's pretty much it everything else in here walmart might
50:27
launch a video streaming service oh oh boy more video streaming services
50:33
they're thinking of a service priced below eight dollars a month um because
50:37
netflix has been steadily raising their prices which are now between 8 and 14
50:41
amazon charges 9. they may also consider a no-cost ad
50:44
supported service they already own voodoo i did not know
50:48
that a service for buying and renting movies and voodoo launched its own ad supported
50:52
streaming service movies on us a few years ago which i have never heard of
50:56
which should be which should give you some idea of how well movies on us is
50:59
doing and that's it
51:02
thank you for tuning in to the WAN Show thank you dennis for joining me on the
51:05
lan show and we will see you guys again next week wow that's so fast same bat
51:09
time same bad channel
51:13
just remember they can hear you right now can they they can i don't think so
51:17
yes they can i'm not singing a song no they condem whatever song you want
51:35
foreign