The WAN Show - Macs Can't Handle VR!! - Mar 4, 2016
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2016-05-06
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well hello hello everyone thank you for joining me here on the W show it's going
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to be just me this week that is to say
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unless uh twitch pulls a Dennis or Riot
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which seems pretty likely although I think he is busy editing a video right
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now so I'm really not sure if it's going to be an option but I've actually got a
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fair number of good topics this week
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asterisk because some of the good topics that I'll be discussing this week are
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actually ones that took place um more last week than this week but I didn't
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get a chance to uh talk about them last week because Luke got all distracting
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with his dreamy blue eyes and all that stuff so Luke and Brandon are actually
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on an embargoed trip right now they are in Switzerland of all places pretty
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freaking cool which means that I am on my own except that yes twitch chat is
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completely exploding thank you for that twit chat I'll tell you what I will ask
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Dennis to join me for a few minutes here but I really don't know how much time
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he's going to have
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um you guys are
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merciless just for a few
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minutes that's always how my requests start hey uh can we do that thing I want
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to do it'll only take a few
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minutes um so I've got a pretty good show for for you guys today though some
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some of the topics are actually left over from last week like I said but there is some pretty interesting stuff
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from this week so in spite of my inability to order one the HTC Vive
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managed to sell 15,000 units in 10 minutes talking about the implications
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of that uh Samsung has a 15 terabyte SSD
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I'm I'm waving but my body language I'll
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try I'll try you oh
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Jesus hi Dennis welcome to the show um hold on I'm just going to tell people
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about some of topics we got this week so John McAfee revealed on National
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Television how to uh hack into the San
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Bernardino Killer's iPhone which uh the
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method he outlined I mean I'm no iPhone security expert but uh caused me to
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raise an eyebrow and I'm not the only one uh Far Cry primals Map same map as
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Far Cry 4 more on this at 11 and joining me for the show is Dennis with one of
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the gigantic food of his people around his neck would you say that
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shrimp is a food of the Taiwanese people yeah yeah this is fresh big shrimp I got
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from Taiwan okay excellent I'll roll the intro
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now
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oh thank you Ed made
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it it see it's me and Luke yeah with shirts that we no longer wear but that
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we used to wear those used to be like our trademark
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shirts
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y we don't have that couch no we do not have that couch anymore I do still have
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that shirt somewhere and Luke may still have that I think it's like a Team
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Liquid hoodie he may still have it somewhere but I'm I'm genuinely
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uncertain if if any we definitely don't have the red cushions anymore those are
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gone yeah yeah I actually gave that couch to uh to a friend of mine who runs
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the Badminton Center now so uh badminton you're Asian what do you know about
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Badminton you like badminton I play taiwan's PE class we
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play a lot of bingum but I'm not
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professional I don't think I'm as good as you but I think you don't have to say
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that just cuz like I'm you know better
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than the other people here I think okay
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okay we should play sometime we should play sometime maybe we'll uh maybe we'll
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get an opportunity to engage in some kind of fun exciting uh sports sports
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thing in sometime in the next little bit we'll see how your uh your physical
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sporting prowess is um so let's jump
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into our first topic for the day this was posted by Sam fiser on the Forum I
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have not wh I forgot to test if my screen capture was working so uh it
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helps if you plug in the HDMI cable and
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whoa look at that the stream computer
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worked for the first time ever the HTC
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Vive sold over 15,000 units in 10 minutes that's the
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Taiwanese people made that's my people yep so uh well they I mean they make
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pretty much everything that's not made in that's not made in China so it's like
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it's it's like Taiwan and Japan if you want something that's sort of A step
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above China then that's where you're going to want to go so HTC has been
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hanging on for dear life they can't make a phone that anyone wants so they
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partnered up with valve they introduced the HTC Vive the initial concept looked
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really interesting for those of you who need a bit of a primer on it where they
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had this idea where instead of having a Tracker right in front of the user they
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were going to have these Lighthouse towers for extremely low latency um
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motion excuse me motion um position
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detection and the initial units were frankly not very impressive SS did you
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try the Vive at CES this year okay no I didn't get to see that at CES this year
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the Vive grew up the Vive put on its big boy pants and started to look like a
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legitimate competitor for the Oculus
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Rift now I to my knowledge Oculus has
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not released any of the sales figures for the rift but the Vive was priced at
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if I recall correctly it was uh
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$7.99 us uh let me just let me just yeah
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so the Vive was priced at $800 leading many myself included to believe that
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that combined with the cost associated with running VR on a computer that's
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powerful enough to run VR would really hurt initial adoption
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I mean 15 can you believe 15,000 people
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bought a pair of goggles that goes on their head that runs with like a handful
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of programs and they have to have a computer starting at probably around
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$1,000 to $1300 to even use that's kind
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a lot have you tried VR at all I I
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try I didn't I didn't try entire thing I have a I tried a glasses thing in CES
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didn't have much time but I I would love to try that the Vive thanks Dennis
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you're a great co-host here you're help helping me out a lot here is amazing
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really you guys you guys all have tried it uh a few people tried it yes I didn't
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even see it you don't have to be so shy man like if someone's if like me or Luke
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is like trying something at CS you can be like can I try it did L's I don't
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think we saw that CS um yeah I'm pretty
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sure yeah yeah I'm pretty sure and we went to the HTC booth but we saw the
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this a scale thing that's all we saw oh
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not CS the the thing before CS the first
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day so I didn't see so the implications of this are pretty huge from my
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perspective I mean I I am willing to bet money based on that HTC has never uh you
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know come out and said yeah we sold 15,000 of our new flagship phone in 10
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minutes that it has been a long time since HTC has had a product fly off the
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shelf like this and for them to get
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their foot in the door in a real way whether it's the partnership with valve
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whether it's the fact that the the Vive is just a really impressive piece of
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Hardware this could be a breath of fresh
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air into the lungs of HTC and I personally have been kind of rooting for
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them all this time CU they were that they were that kind of upstart from
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nowhere I mean people forget this but they were kind of like a OnePlus many
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years ago when Android was just kind of
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starting to to chip away at the market share of the other phone makers and they
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were kind of a big deal they made a lot of really important phones over the
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years and as much as phones have kind of
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lost their their glamour um with anyone
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but Apple Samsung or actually LG to a certain extent lately unable to really
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Dazzle people with their new phone releases um if HTC is the one out of all
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those guys that figured out okay we're going to jump into this then I'm I'm
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proud of them I'm proud of them great job guys and to be clear I do recognize
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that Samsung has the whole gear VR thing going on but you guys need to recognize
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that the Vive and the Oculus Rift are
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completely different pieces of Hardware compared to something like gear VR it is
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not the same thing at all so um yeah I
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guess that's I am blown you know here I
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want to hear from you guys and this is this is important this is important you
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guys I want you to answer as honestly as possible did you pre-order a
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Vive um or you know what did you pre-order a gaming VR headset and I'm
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going to I'm going to put all the options on here so Vive and and I'm
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really serious I'm leaving out the turnup option okay so Vive Rift both
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none let's get that poll created here and I want to hear from you guys by the
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way I did eventually manage to get
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everyone stop answering in the twitch chat for crying out loud that's not how
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we do things I can't even read that can they even see your your thing because is
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oh gone I know and they make it impossible for me to post my links look
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at the link click the bitly you guys the LTT bot bitly so uh let's have a look so
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guys to be clear I did eventually manage to get a Vive pre-order in it took me a
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little while it took me about 40 minutes so I'm deeply concerned that I'm not
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going to be getting a particularly early unit which is going to set back our
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coverage for it but whatever there's nothing I can do about that at this
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point um so I did get one so we definitely have an order in for a rift
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and we definitely have an order in for aive and we're going to be really looking into
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um how how video cards perform with
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these what the experiences are like um I'd love to even maybe Branch out and I
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haven't talked to Luke about this so don't quote me on this but I'd love to
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even do some game and app reviews specific specifically for these products
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because while I recognize especially now seeing the results of this poll that
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very few of you are actually interested
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enough in gaming grade VR to plunk down
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you know I think it ended up costing me about 1,200 Canadian rubles for just one
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of them to plunk down that kind of money on on a gaming headset um I think it is
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super important for the future and it's important for us to get familiar with
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these devices so we can continue to provide you guys with context relevant
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information about the new devices that will be coming in the future and it's
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also important for us to have these devices here in the office so poor
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Dennis can try them yeah where do you have needle what oh uh
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okay these that that is that is an interesting question and I'm glad you
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asked so I have these um these needle
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capped syringes uh here on the table and the
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finger yeah uh it's called nail nail
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polish yep nail polish um which ironically does not polish your nail so
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much as cover your nail with paint nail
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polish is actually a bit of a misnomer oh a misnomer is is a is a name for
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something that not right it's not it doesn't accurately describe it yeah see
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this this is this is how the arrangement works we don't actually pay him um but
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he teaches us about Taiwanese culture and uh and edits videos and then you
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know we we teach him English we're not doing a very good job of our end of the
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bargain though sorry
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Den um car what's that for okay so
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actually this I'm going to be doing a live experiment with the here I'll
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actually I'll switch to the camera angle that I'm planning to use for no no it's
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not a big deal so I'll be doing a live experiment where I had a lot of people
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comment on my painting video of This gtx980 Ti that the the text here the
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gtx980 ti really needs to be a different
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color to make it pop CU this used to be black so my theory is that I can do a
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poor man's like epoxy resin fill
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technique to color this with a syringe
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and some nail polish that is an actual technique that's used to make things
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like um high-end case badges um and
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emblems so where they'll actually have a um a metal stamped or or cast sticker
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and then they fill in with different colors um so I'm hoping that I can do
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that for sort of under $10 kind of thing
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but I don't know if it's going to work but I was if I ran out of topics on my
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it easy to get a needles yeah it's just
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a it's just a needle you just tell the pharmacy you're diabetic what is that
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diabetic oh um yeah that means you have like a brain disorder that makes it so
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when no no I'm just kidding diabetes yes diabet I know diabetes yes you can also
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get them at safe injection sites they're very nice the ones that have at the safe
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injection sites are better well the people are very nice all the people are
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nice they don't judge you oh oh how did
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you know um so posted by Nona hexa on
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the Forum the original article here is from Computer World Samsung ships the
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world's highest capacity SSD with 15
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terab of storage now 15 terab of storage
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so so Dennis do you know how much overall storage capacity we have in our
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entire server room um two 200 terab um
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actually that is that is very very close
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yep we are somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 terabytes of storage now that 200
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terabytes of storage takes up um one
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entire 4u rack that's all magnetic
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storage and another Ur rack with the
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necessary um uh host bus adapters and
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and trays and 2 and 1 half in ssds it's not a very efficiently laid out case
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it's only got 24 ssds in it but so far we've taken up eight years worth of
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racks and then we've got another machine that's just got like a like a temporary
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like a Dumping Ground for um for offloaded footage that makes up the rest
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of it with a mere what 12 of these
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ssds we would be cuz we've actually got about 185 terab so we would be we would
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have the same capacity of storage that we have in our entire server room in
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like what I could fit in my two hands just like this this thing looks freaking
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bananas now it is still I believe it is
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SATA I don't even think it no no it is
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SAS so this is a SAS Drive uh they're calling it The pm
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1633a and it is the highest capacity solid state drive um it's Peak
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So Random read and write speeds of up to, 3200 iOS per second so to be clear
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those read ey Ops are pretty darn good
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those right ey Ops are not particularly impressive so what Samsung's going after
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here is uh write infrequently read very
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very frequently and with very very high
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data storage density applications and there is definitely a place for this
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like for example um while it doesn't
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have the same kind of performance that a PCI Express based um preferably NVMe SSD
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would have because it uses a SAS interface it's a you can connect a lot
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more of them to a system just with host bus adapters or Raid cards so you can
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connect like whack loads of them you're not limit limited by how many PCI
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Express slots you have and in addition to that uh it is hot swappable so you
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don't have to power down the system take it out and swap a card if you have a
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drive failure or something along those
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lines this is freaking incredible 15.36%
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over its 5year warranty holy freaking
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crap so let me tell you there are some data center Architects that are drooling
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over this and I I'm personally drooling too because I can think of all kinds of
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things that I would love to use a 15 tab SSD
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for wow so there they're saying that the
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random read iops performance is about a thousand times that of a SAS type hard
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disk drive and the sequential read and WR speeds are more than twice the speed
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of a typical SATA SSD because this is not just SAS it is SAS 12 gbit so that
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is the because of I believe it's due to
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the controller complexity and the power consumption that is the next step for
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the for what remember guys SAS and SATA are very closely related and have and
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have evolved with each other so that would be the next step for SATA if they
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could figure out how to solve those problems and if there was really a need
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for a desktop system to have so many drives connected to it anymore with
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between the cloud and Nas storage I can't think of a reason why most
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personal computers really need more than one or maybe two drives so the so the
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desire for this you know 12 gabit
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interface that you can connect you know anywhere between six or 12 or however
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many SATA ports you would have on a motherboard drives is is really not very
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high and and the cost of implementing it is very high I've learned some turning
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fap Bess inste we don't really refer to
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it as fap externally we call it fast as possible take a key yeah but uh that's
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good they know what I'm talking about yes they call you that word too yeah
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they they Pro they probably do um so
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what was I going to say all right so the way that Samsung is achieving all this
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capacity is with their stackable vertical nand they are right now Far and
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Away the industry leader in that technology with guys like Intel very
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much playing catchup so let's let's see there's actually a lot of really great
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technical details this is a really good article from Computer World here so
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they're using the same blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah what are
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we looking at so how many 256 gbit dies are on
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here wow 256 GB on a chip that is larger
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than the tip of a finger so they're stacked in 16 layers to form a single
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512 Gigabyte package so there's a total
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of 32 of those flash packages in the 1536 terab Drive um this is actually a
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question that a lot of people have asked
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whether it's directly to me or just I've seen this this question on forums and
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stuff over the years and here I I will pose it to you Dennis I'll see if you
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can I'll see if you can answer the question I'll see if I I can't understand question so you know how a
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hard drive is like this big yeah okay and an SSD is so small like they're like
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this big or in the cases of laptops remember the one you probably edited the
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one on m.2 right yeah like they're tiny they're just a little like they
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basically are like a thicker SD card like crazy so a lot of people have asked
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over the years why don't they just pack
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as many flash chips as they can into something the size of a hard drive for
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desktops then we could have had high capacity I mean theoretically if Samsung
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can make a 15 2 and2 in SSD today why
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can't they make a 60 Tab 3 and2 in SSD
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today I don't know why but that's s
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doable and in theory it does and I'll explain why just because a lot of people
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have brought this up over the years the reason is actually due to a couple of
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things number one is cost and number two is actually very closely related to
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number one and it is complexity so the cost of the nand chip
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it it doesn't get cheaper if you make them bigger in fact the the the
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manufacturing process for Nan chips is
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refined to the point where down to down to micrometers they've determined what
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the optimal size is for op the optimal
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interconnect speed and all that nonsense that goes on inside of a chip there
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there is no point there's no benefit to making it physically larger and putting
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it into a larger package because you might actually end up with a latency
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penalty for example that would hurt performance so there's the cost so just
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because you can put you know 3,000 flash
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chips into something the size of a like a 5 and a quar inch optical drive like
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yeah why don't we just have 5 and a qu inch ssds and we'll put them in our Optical Baye uh doesn't mean that we
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could afford it and then number two is complexity also related to cost so
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building a controller that supports more
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communication Channel out to all of these chips and can handle
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things like uh load balancing and and the the leveling of the wearing out of
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all the different Nan chips uh in the drive building that controller is
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extremely difficult and the more the more CH the more communication it needs
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to do the more calculation it needs to do the more expensive and the more
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complex it needs to be and unless you can sell over a certain threshold of
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these controllers you're not going to make back what you spent in R&D no
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matter how much you end up charging for it so you have to wait until the
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economies of scale make enough sense that you can build a complex enough
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controller that you can attach enough Nan chips Nan chips that you can afford
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in order to make an SSD of a higher capacity so the solution that we've been
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left with is you just have small ssds and big metal adapters if you really
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really really want to put them into a 3 and 1 half in
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Bay I'm so lost I'm so lost sorry guys that's okay
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hopefully you guys aren't lost this is great retro capes says
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you're having a Vietnam flashback I just trying to process all
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the words you say this yeah sorry I talk pretty fast although I read a really
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interesting article uh once Ed actually linked it to me I would love to be able
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to find it by the way we've got the final results for our straw pool here
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91% of you did not pre-order a gaming VR headset with a whopping 8% that doesn't
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add up what the hell okay uh anyway rounding error 91%
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of you did not pre-order a gaming VR headset with 8% of you saying that you
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did and only 1% of you saying that you pre-ordered both so uh very Niche very
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expensive but apparently around the world you know beyond our audience uh
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where we've got you know about 150 people saying they bit the bullet and
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went for it there are apparent ly thousands and thousands of people
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revealing a much a much uh healthier appetite for this stuff than I would
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have necessarily expected especially given how few people have actually had
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an opportunity to try it when's um
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when's the VR thing coming out is like coming on these couple five years couple
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years or um well one of the headsets is shipping in April so we'll have one here
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like very soon um however if you're a
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Mac User you may not be able to enjoy that same privilege so this was
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originally posted by Master disaster on the Forum original article here is from
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PC Gamer Oculus founder Rift will come
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to Mac if Apple quote ever release a
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good computer wow burn and to be clear to be clear um
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and this is this is right in the article very sensationalist headline I don't blame them um when your entire business
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is whether or not people click on your article or not I don't I don't NE as
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long as you're not being deceptive I don't actually blame you for for trying
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to attract people to click on it but um
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it does say he did clarify saying that
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he was referring to Apple's lack of high-end GPU support even in its
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high-end systems that the rift is dependent on so he went on to say you
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can buy a $6,000 Mac Pro with a top-of-the-line AMD firepro d700 and it
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still doesn't match Oculus is recommended specs I mean remember guys
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Oculus is asking for what r9290 or a
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gtx970 graphics card I mean we're talking a current gen Enthusiast grade
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graphics card whereas Apple over the
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last little while unless you look at their mobile lineup has really
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deemphasized the importance of GPU and to be clear I don't mean mobile laptops
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their laptops some of them I think still have decent gpus in them but nothing
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high-end I mean a lot of people say you know one is why did you why do you use
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the Razer Blade 14 it's just a MacBook with a better
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GPU why do I have to explain why I use it because the MacBook is a great piece
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of Hardware is MacBook Pro to be clear uh the MacBook Pro is a great piece of
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Hardware but it has a freaking freaking
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crabtastic GPU for what it is and for how much it costs that's why the Razer
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Blade 14 makes a lot of sense to me um
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so I I I guess that's pretty much all there is to to really say about that I
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was kind of I was going to Riff on this with Luke if he was here this week a
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little bit more but um maybe Dennis I'll get your thoughts uh
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what speechless what I don't
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know do you think Apple makes good
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enough computers for gaming I never seen
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people playing games on Mac mostly they
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do media things like Photoshop or illustrator or video editing but serly I
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never seen people play games on Mac Oh
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Nick he he has a Mac yeah get wrecked
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Berle he always he played like stupid little game when he was in college in
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class every class yeah got in class how
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did he pass did he get did he get better grades than you yes in every class but
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no my grammar is better than his your grammar is better than his yes but like
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good yeah no no no they has a grammar
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test I got 100% go wait you guys are in BCIT
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why are you doing grammar tests Communications cuz we have communications diplomas Communications
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that's what our education what do you mean Communications is what you do you never even graduated yeah well that's
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why my communication is okay there was a law class that we had and I never
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studied and I always just played Age of Empires in it and I would just
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subconsciously listen and I got it and failed you sucking hm Empire yeah
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so so you work hard on H Empire but you
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suck I work on law I'm I pass still I
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think we can all agree that Age of Empires is much more important to his current line of work than
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law all right so um moving moving on
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with actually the show this is a big
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deal and hopefully we can get to weigh in on this one this was posted by Mech
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777 on the Forum original article here is from Tech PowerUp let's go ahead and
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pull that up oh you know what I just realized I've been totally derping and I
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haven't been posting the articles in the twitch chat normally Luke does that for
28:43
me I'm sorry guys there you go there's the article from tech power up there um
28:48
and now I'm going to try and find my way back to it for crying out loud okay
28:51
there we go Windows store games are
28:55
going to be limited in some pretty fre freaking crappy ways I mean Microsoft
29:02
the more times they commit to the PC Gamer the more times they turn around
29:08
and take a steaming dump on the PC Gamer
29:12
especially the Enthusiast PC Gamer and I understand I understand that if all you
29:17
play is like what what's it called like Zuma or like you know uh uh uh what's
29:23
that stupid game that my sister played with the Cafe Diner Dash or you know
29:29
whatever if that's all you if that's all you play on your PC you are technically
29:35
still a PC Gamer and I'm not going to be down on that like yeah you're not like
29:38
OG enough you're not hardcore enough you don't have a five-digit steam ID yo you
29:43
know I'm not I'm not going to be like that or anything
29:48
but why take a crap on the Enthusiast
29:51
Gamers who do invest in Hardware that runs your operating system and not let
29:57
them take full advantage of it so word on the street right now the way that
30:01
it's looking right now is that Windows store games may not have proper support
30:07
for um adaptive vsync SLI and Crossfire
30:12
modding or even proper full screen game
30:16
support because while it is so it what
30:20
it appears that they are going to be doing is running these games as window
30:28
apps so technically that's going to run
30:31
in window full screen so I do know and I
30:34
haven't I apologize in advance because I haven't it's it's not 100% clear um how
30:40
many of these limitations will affect how many games and with which video
30:43
cards what I do know is that NVIDIA
30:47
supports g-sync for example in window
30:50
full screen AMD on the other hand does
30:53
not appear at this time to have a solution for AMD free sync in Windows
30:58
full screen so while news breaking
31:02
originally that there might be exclusive titles uh I believe the upcoming Gears
31:07
of War release is going to be exclusive to the Windows store and I was like sure
31:14
okay I get it I mean hey look everyone else is doing it you know whether you're
31:18
Ubisoft or valve or EA or or whatever everyone else is doing it so fine I get
31:23
it you want to to drive the adoption of your platform but if you are going to
31:27
stunt your platform by killing things
31:30
like SLI and Crossfire support I mean killing it even worse than the game
31:35
developers implementing it poorly then what's your
31:42
problem like I get I get I I get the
31:46
economics I get the business strategy of
31:49
not wanting to give up a cut of the game
31:52
that you are selling to some third party distribution service like steam if you
31:57
just want to that money fine I understand that you know everybody's got
32:01
to make money but if you your game at
32:05
the same time um then that becomes just that just
32:14
becomes it's just rubbing salt in the wound and I've got some people asking
32:19
about Tim Sweeney's comments unfortunately that situation we were
32:23
looking into it before W show is a whole lot of he said she said right now maybe
32:27
we can talk about it a little bit once the dust settles next week but right now
32:31
that whole situation between epic games and Microsoft right now is something
32:35
that I that I don't really want to want to touch so Dennis let's get your
32:39
thoughts on this about the the window thing yeah
32:43
yeah so they don't support full screen and some V things so they do support
32:48
full screen it's but it's like borderless full screen so you don't
32:52
actually it's it's a borderless window so it's technically running in windowed
32:56
mode like you can alt Tab out of it yeah and into other appliations it doely take
33:01
the experience but you don't see the borders around it but what that means
33:05
because of some complications in the video card driver is that certain
33:10
Advanced features that require the video card driver to fully take control of the
33:15
application are not able to function and these are these are these are functions
33:20
that so someone might buy one of these and they will get sort of The Full
33:24
Experience um in this situation missing
33:28
some stuff potentially um but some people will go as far as to buy two of
33:31
these so they'll spend an entire additional like $800 on their gaming
33:35
system in order to theoretically double their performance in SLI so Microsoft is
33:39
taking a big poo on that oh so like the Windows have full contr up the entire
33:44
thing yeah oh I don't like that I like I
33:49
like everything you can just come true and you don't have to buy something for
33:54
that brand like to be clear Microsoft
33:58
isn't offering an alternative Microsoft video card they're just completely
34:02
kneecapping the functionality and not giving you any recourse whatsoever I
34:05
don't like that so there you go guys you
34:08
heard it here first Dennis doesn't like that and I don't like it either so
34:14
Microsoft if you guys are
34:19
watching yeah thank you Dennis all right
34:22
so uh let's move on to our next topic here uh actually oh we should we should
34:27
probably do oh no this one's this one's too this one's too good to pass up I was
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we use Squarespace for our Forum no no
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no not for our forum no no okay that's the other one no we use it for Linus
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it simple powerful beautiful I think I'm just going to start stringing together
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every slogan they've ever done at a certain point uh until we until we have
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literally all of them it'll be like like poke Pokemon style all right so I'm
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your every month and can I help you I got they have
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have Shi moist and cream what did you just say
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shave moisture thing ah yes y shaving
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yourself that's an hour happiness you can buy
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from that that is a good point um thank
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you thank you thank you Dennis okay so moving into our next
40:57
uh next actual topic um if you have work
41:01
to do you can you can leave I I actually only meant to drag you here for a few
41:04
minutes okay sorry sorry Dennis I know you're trying to edit as fast as
41:08
possible right now thank you for joining me yeah thank thanks Dennis Stay Stay
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Stay Stay no they stay yeah they they'll
41:16
stay don't worry it's okay um so this is
41:20
posted by no nerg whatever that is on
41:24
the Forum I'm gonna go ahead and drop the link here in the twitch chat
41:28
um boom there you go John McAfee
41:31
according to the RS Technica headline better prepare to eat a shoe because he
41:37
doesn't know how iPhones work okay so we're going to fire up this
41:43
video um at risk of at risk of me
41:46
getting like a like a an infringement strike here from uh who is this I don't
41:53
know some some United States can I just
41:57
see this on YouTube please thank you all right so um so some some news network I
42:01
don't know I'm not American um so basically to be clear he did say and
42:07
it's the it's the top comment on the video I hope everyone knows that the
42:11
Apple explanation was vastly dumbed down for the Press I know the A7 system chip
42:16
well including it secure Enclave with separate co-processor that stores the
42:20
encrypted fingerprint the feral key generated by the co-processor that Apple
42:23
doesn't even know the secure Enclave memory isolated from the rest of the processes on the Etc doesn't matter the
42:29
main ARM processor has its own memory and that's what I'm interested
42:32
in etc etc etc um however ours put together a very
42:40
strong because I was kind of looking at it going like the way he was explaining
42:44
this it was like it was like a four-year-old could break into an iPhone
42:49
so like he says okay so this is a summary from John McAfee you only need
42:54
two people a hardware and a software engineer okay well that sets the bar
43:00
somewhat somewhat High the hardware engineer takes the phone apart that
43:03
doesn't even sound like a hardware engineering task to be perfectly honest
43:07
I mean I can think of there's probably a thousand people on YouTube alone who
43:10
could take apart an iPhone with their eyes closed copies the instruction
43:15
set which I I it sounds like um he sort
43:20
of loosely using the term instruction
43:23
set to mean which which is is actually a
43:28
way that that that a processor takes software uh takes what software tells it
43:33
and turns that into something that that transistors can understand like it it
43:37
translates it into like like machine code um so so that's that's an
43:40
instruction set so so you actually wouldn't you wouldn't even want the
43:44
instruction set um so I think what he
43:48
sort of means is is like the the the the software like the actual operating
43:52
system or something not sure then you run a disassembler which takes the ones
43:57
and zeros and gives you readable information okay then the coder sits
44:02
down reads and finds the first access to the keypad reads the instructions for
44:06
where In memory the secret code is stored and he says it'll take half an
44:10
hour however our Technica summary which my
44:15
understanding of it is and I am not a software engineer I want that to be very
44:19
clear I am neither a software engineer nor a hardware engineer but from my
44:24
understanding of the way that Apple's encryption works
44:28
apple is being honest and being very
44:32
upfront about the fact that even day
44:35
cannot break into an iPhone unless they
44:40
were to push a software update so they were to install a new version of iOS
44:45
onto the phone that defeated the
44:48
safeguards that they have put into place to prevent even Apple from breaking the
44:53
encryption so to imagine for a second
44:56
that apple apple is storing plain text
44:59
versions of the entries of a passcode
45:03
which by the way the passcode itself is not what unlocks an iPhone it actually
45:07
generates a key that unlocks the iPhone
45:11
so for for to imagine that apple is storing this in PL Tex somewhere is
45:18
just is just baffling baffling to me
45:22
that um that he would think that it's
45:25
that simple
45:28
and I mean so so here ours ours explains it better than I possibly could because
45:33
they're really smart over there and I'm only a little bit smart so the pin is
45:37
not stored on the flash storage at all because there's no need if the wrong PIN is entered the encryption key that's
45:41
gets generated by combining the pin with the hardware ID won't work there that's in a sentence a way better explanation
45:46
than I could have possibly given you guys it will not unlock any encrypted
45:49
files so that's how the iPhone can verify if the pin is correct or not it
45:55
verifies simp on the basis of did it work in the key
46:00
or not it doesn't actually know what the
46:03
or did it work in the lock or not it doesn't actually know what the right key
46:07
is for the lock it's basically like like the way that it works is as if people
46:13
just walk up and try any key in a lock and the only way the lock even knows
46:17
what its own what its own what its own Tumblr setup was was whether the key
46:23
works or not that's the only way it could have possibly known so to imagine
46:28
that it is easy to pull that information
46:32
out of an iPhone is is asinine as far as
46:36
my understanding and the RS author's understanding goes which isn't to say
46:40
that it's impossible if they were to
46:43
actually disassemble the the chip itself
46:47
so they would actually have to inspect the handset's processor so this is back
46:51
to the article again which I believe I Linked In twitch chat but just in case I will do it again because really good
46:55
read uh you guys should definitely be checking this
46:58
out if they inspect the handset's processor using acid and lasers it is
47:04
possible that they could get the device's unique Hardware ID and then
47:08
with that ID they could combine it with each pin every pin in turn until they
47:13
hit upon the exact right one although the cost and complexity of the technique
47:17
would be extremely high and the risk of destroying the device permanently making
47:22
it completely unrecoverable would also be very high
47:27
so I don't know if he's actually
47:31
planning to eat a shoe I don't know if he actually thinks he could open it in a
47:35
couple weeks because if he could like it's pretty easy to do that demo with
47:39
some other iPhone just be like hey just to prove that I really can here we go we
47:43
did it um or if he's just in his own
47:49
eccentric way trying
47:52
to just just undermine the FBI's efforts to
47:58
get apple to agree to build in a back door if he is like I can't I can't
48:05
believe that I like he's kind of a he's
48:08
kind of an eccentric character but I haven't seen anything about him to make
48:13
me believe that he's stupid so
48:18
um maybe he's just playing a game that
48:22
most of us have not picked up on here I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt where he's just trying to to put
48:28
up barricades for the FBI for the
48:31
government's requests to have apple build in this
48:37
functionality I'd like to believe that's what's going on here but I'm I'm
48:42
definitely not sure um so there there
48:47
you have it
48:50
um yeah so I'm actually going to take a
48:55
break from our regularly scheduled land show programming to bring you guys my
48:59
live yes my friends live Voyage of
49:03
Discovery here with this gtx980 TI I'm actually not out of topics I actually
49:07
have a fair number of them remaining but I really want to do this I'm I'm
49:11
actually like kind of amped on it and so uh I I want to bring you guys along for
49:15
the ride because I have to go home after work today I'm not going to have a
49:18
chance to uh to stick around and try this oh oh that that's not what I meant
49:22
to do sorry I was just trying to uh see if I can get the color right oh wow
49:27
that's weird okay so my hands are now pink which they're not but that card
49:31
looks a lot closer to what it looks like in real life so I think uh I think we've
49:35
got our our color good enough here so what I will be trying to do is like an
49:39
epoxy okay the table's not dirty it's actually um it was painted it is chipped
49:44
paint the the table is actually not dirty see look I'll I'll look my finger
49:48
that tastes fine um so what I'm going to be trying to do
49:53
is use nail polish to be like a poor
49:57
man's epoxy resin fill technique I don't
50:01
know how to open these um for coloring a
50:06
recessed a recessed logo or emblem or something along those lines so my wife
50:11
went to the pharmacy and uh obtained
50:14
these uh needle syringes for me so I was
50:18
hoping to use this as an applicator I'm actually thinking I might try to suck up
50:24
the nail polish without the needle tip because I don't want to get nail polish
50:28
all over it I'm going to have to be very careful about the way that I apply it um
50:33
because a lot of people had critiqued this already um even though I haven't
50:37
even released the video about it this painted gtx980ti saying that it would really be
50:42
a lot better if I took the extra step
50:46
to uh to color the gtx980 ti text so oh
50:52
hold on all right now you'll have to pardon me I've never done this before
50:56
I've I've never put nail polish into uh into a
51:01
syringe okay I realize I'm not actually
51:04
showing you guys what's going on
51:08
here uh okay that is super duper not
51:12
working very well okay okay that's fine not an obstacle got everyone being all
51:17
like shooting nail polish that is not what happens on this show not what
51:22
happens on this show oh wow wow that is
51:28
uh that is some slow
51:32
slow slow suction that we got going on here
51:38
hopefully you guys can see I am managing to draw up some nail polish though so
51:44
that that bodess well for our chances of success here if we can at least get the
51:47
nail polish into the syringe boy is that ever slow though
51:52
holy crap we've got a near vacuum in the thing at this point
51:57
okay okay that's fine that's fine I can make do with this
52:01
okay so there are professional ways to do this but as you guys know I tend to
52:07
uh shy away from those for reasons that are really not very clear to anyone so
52:11
let's start on the let's start on the easiest the easiest thing
52:15
here um let's start with let's start with the T that seems like the least
52:20
complex the least complex of the letters
52:23
got everyone asking me why I don't put it in the oven I think you all know the answer to
52:29
that okay oh wow okay so here I learned
52:34
something new about uh needles today the hole is not actually right in the
52:40
end H okay so that that just put a bead that
52:46
is not spreading out at all into the T
52:49
which is fine I can work with this we're going to try and uh going to try and
52:53
spread it out I sure hope I haven't like
52:57
permanently wrecked this
53:03
thing
53:07
okay wow this is stressful I mean there's a lot of stuff
53:12
that I do that's like kind of stressful but I mean for
53:17
me the cost of a component is less of a
53:22
factor because you know for us the components
53:27
are just sort of cost to doing business
53:30
um we we need them we can't make videos about this stuff unless we have them so
53:35
ruing a component is is really really
53:39
crappy and I and I hate doing it but ruining a bunch of time that I've
53:44
already invested in a video is is much more
53:48
harmful um so I'm really hoping not to destroy
53:53
this video card that I have already done uh most of the work for oh sorry I
53:58
realized I moved that away from you so what I'm kind of hoping for is that I
54:02
can use some kind of a of like a a cloth
54:08
or something oh oh oh oh it's coming out
54:12
really fast okay don't come out so fast
54:16
you
54:21
okay wow this is some this is some
54:24
touchy touchy work here so so what I'm hoping is I can use some kind of a wipe
54:28
over the top of it
54:32
to you know if it came out the end of the needle I would be in much better
54:37
shape right now um to get the excess off around the
54:42
edges and hopefully get a nice clean line that is what I am sincerely
54:50
hoping okay
54:53
so the G the T and the
54:57
x or the G the T and the X the T only
55:00
the t is sort of done but it looks a little
55:05
overfilled so I am at a bit of a loss
55:09
for how to fix that right now
55:13
because I don't think I even have any nail polish
55:17
remover well there you have it guys I
55:21
got sad on Wow today okay you know what
55:25
here I I actually have an idea I have an idea people are like can we talk news is
55:29
wow there's only a 60% chance we're even going to talk about news on low you guys
55:34
knew that coming into this you knew what this
55:39
was um okay you know what no I want like uh
55:45
okay what if I use I need uh what do I need I need
55:50
something I need like a flat Edge I need a flat Edge oh people are suggesting to
55:55
suck up the excess with the needle there's not that much excess though I
55:59
might not have fine enough control okay I'm going to try this I'm going to
56:03
try scraping the extra
56:07
off actually that could work that could
56:11
work I might need to take another couple runs at this here but as long as I can
56:17
sufficiently clean
56:22
off oh oh oh oh we're in trouble now
56:27
we're in trouble now uhoh uhoh okay um
56:32
uhoh now I'm in trouble time to uh time to bring in the
56:37
Cavalry Cavalry here
56:41
um uh I might need our resident nail
56:45
polish expert can you just clean it with
56:48
saliva oh the answer is no I don't know what oh oh oh I got a bunch on the top
56:53
cuz there's nail polish on my fingers uh uhoh oh well I sure hope I didn't
56:59
completely ruin it we shall find out very very
57:04
soon Cavalry is coming
57:09
yvon um I may have ruined my painted
57:13
video card by spreading the nail polish
57:16
out a bunch and and and ruining it um do you know how to get that
57:21
off yep yep I'm live so um and I and I
57:25
got some there too the back do you know how to do you know how to remove that
57:28
yeah you need CL remover uh I was even
57:32
going to buy some cuz I was like I know you're going to screw this up and then I
57:37
didn't because I was like you're using a syringe it'll be okay in my defense
57:41
these syringes are not quite what I was expecting uh apparently isopropyl will
57:45
work uh I don't think so but I will I actually also don't think so you need
57:50
acetone same thing yeah well um yep so there you go I will
57:58
do a news topic now thank you for thank you for coming along with me for that
58:02
wild ride oh this is sort of this is sort of
58:06
a big deal I mean it's only it's only sort of tech related but I guarantee you
58:12
that this will is it coming off actually yeah cuz it's not dry yet oh really oh
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can I see oh why because I I want to see
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if it could maybe be removed a little bit yeah I'm oh well yeah you just rub
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harder and then it comes off more oh really well cuz it's not dry yet it's
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not cured yet oh can I okay can I can I can I can I can I have that whoever said
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that I'm sorry you were right okay good job with the isopropyl uh normally I
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think once it cures it doesn't work though I mean have you ever tried to use
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alcohol on your fingers yeah I have um but I think it could be because of the
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paint finish too like maybe that's why maybe it makes
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it easier to to same I think you should
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let me do that I think you're ruining it I look you're taking the paint off or
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what is that I don't think so no I think that's just um I think that's just nail
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polish junk cuz if there's a way to if there's
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a way to fill it
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without oh yeah it's no it's okay that's the problem the alcohol is not taking it
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off fully it's just kind of spreading it
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around well that's why you should have let me do it cuz I was doing fine okay
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go away
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we also have that Goof Off stuff that may work but will that take your paint
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off I'm not sure we're better off taking the paint off than having that stuck on
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though just ring that out
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there all right thank you um I don't
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know if I posted this in the twitch chat yet so I'm going to go ahead and post it
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here but uh yeah Dow chemicals and
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Dupont are merging this is only peripherally related to Tech um because
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like for example Corning uh falls under falls under this merger um they make a
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an awful lot of glass that goes on Tak it's taking the paint off yeah that's
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why it's sticky see it's orange oh no
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that means it's all the way through the clear coat I think that's
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why oh that's
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terrible um I don't know it might be in the cleaning supplies um under the sink
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in the kitchen oh if I have to repaint that
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that's like actually kind of a disaster I don't even know if I have enough
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primer
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left I always push the
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limits all always push the
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limits so the deal is valued at
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130 billion making it the 18th largest
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corporate deal ever this company looks to challenge uh monsanto's seed
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dominance so it'll create three separate entities in India with agriculture
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products Material Science and specialy products as main businesses so dupon and
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dowo chemicals have long been criticized for their track records regarding
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environmental stewardship uh Dupont refused to take responsibility for toxic
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pollutants spilled into the Ohio River the company has also received scrutiny
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for its release of per floro Octan ploro octanoic acid uh which is
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used to make non-stick products like Teflon and da was responsible for
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producing Napalm used by the US military to devastate populations in Vietnam um
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it subsidary Union Carbide was responsible for the deaths of thousands
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in Bal India in 1984 following a massive leak of a chemical used to make
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pesticide and DOW continues to refuse to clean the site or fund medical
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initiatives to address the Bill's ongoing aftermath say critics of the
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companies um so this is bound basically to affect pretty much uh everyone like
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if you buy if you go into a grocery store or like a store and buy pretty
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much anything I can guarantee you that you are buying something that lines the
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pockets of DuPont or Dow chemicals um so
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3M for example is owned by Dupont and will now be owned by this by this merged
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company um in other news the uh Dow CEO
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Andrew Lis gets nearly $53 million in a
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golden parachute deal after the dupon merger um so that's 53 million in
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Severance compensation um according to the Securities and Exchange Commission
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filing so I think between the two of them it was something to the tune of
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like 80 or hundred million and and a golden parachute is effectively an
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executive um an executive like you know
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Assurance package so that if the company were to ever merge or get bought out for
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example uh they would would and then they were to lose their job as a result
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they would definitely still be financially secure and um yeah my $53
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million I I would I would consider that financially
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secure uh in other news this was originally posted on the Forum by oh
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that last one was posted on the Forum by oh no one okay so this one was
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originally posted on the Forum by implosive Tech let's go ahead and Link
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you guys to the original article here
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Apple patents magnetically detachable wireless earbuds for the iPhone so is it
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true that the iPhone 7 will have no 3
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and a half millimeter Jack
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possibly possibly and again possibly not so uh
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Yep this would be a hybrid headphone design that is capable of both corded
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and wireless operation so I I love I love the
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illustrations in like applications it's like it's like they're determined to
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make people look as weird and creepy as possible like who who has eyes like that
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and it's like she's it's like she's so smug it's like she's like a it's like
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she's an Apple user oh I guess that's why no no I'm
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just kidding the smug look on her face could be for any reason so actually
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there's better there's better drawings right here so it would allow um here you
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go so it would have a magnetically detachable point right oh sorry I had
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the the wrong Mouse here right around here and then you could well attach or
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detach it and then power would come in here and you know stuff is very
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fascinating um good for them I
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guess yeah relies on two cables one connecting the stereo headphones
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together to form a listening subsystem and then one tethering that subsystem to the host device and it would be for blah
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blah blah so you could connect the listening device to the host cord for
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battery recharging and for Wired audio signal transmission
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uh direct X2 explicit multi-GPU mode
64:59
bringing radon and gForce together know we talked about that last week dang it Colton hi can I help you yeah you is it
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completely ruined can I see yeah oh that
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sucks yep so there you go my wonderful paint
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job that I was super proud of is completely ruined and I will need to
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completely sand this back down to metal
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um reime it repaint it Rec clear coat it
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and reassemble the card the good news there is some good news here is that
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this piece is if I recall correctly the
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easiest one to remove so I will not need
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to fully disassemble the card that is a very very small Silver
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Lining um but I will not be reattempting
65:48
my Cheapo um epoxy resin fill attempt
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it's already ruined can I try since it's ruined yes you can try but really don't
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think it's going to be worth the risk of trying it once it's painted again and you can't do it until after I paint it
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again so um it was a good idea in theory
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I think it could actually still work but I believe what you would have to do is
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dilute the nail polish cu the problem I was having was that it wasn't spreading
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so it couldn't overcome the surface tension that was making it bead I had to
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try to spread it out by hand and of course when you try and spread it out by hand you might as well paint it by
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hand in other news happy goggles here's
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how to upd the world's most there we go a virtual reality headset made from a
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Happy Meal box and this is on uh this is
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actually pretty cool so they show you the whole
66:39
instructions for how to basically Google cardboard it up with your with your
66:44
Happy Meal box you get to wear that smile on your
66:47
face too so you look like a real winner love it very
66:53
cool that's pretty much all that I have to say about that it's pretty uh pretty
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self pretty self-explanatory um it's a limited
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edition Happy Meal box that can fold into VR goggles special boxes are being
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issued to Mark the 30th anniversary of the Happy Meal in Sweden and only select
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McDonald's restaurants in Sweden will be selling the boxes for now to accompany
67:15
the goggles McDonald's is including a special VR game called slope Stars which
67:20
will be available to download off McDonald's Sweden's website starting on
67:23
March the 4th it's it's essentially uh ski free no I'm just kidding it has
67:27
nothing to do with ski free although if you guys get the reference then one internet point for you uh the company
67:32
says the game will offer the player 36 a 360° ski experience and teach them how
67:37
to stay safe on the slopes uh the reaction to the goggles on McDonald's
67:42
Facebook page was mixed which to me is kind of bizarre like what's to not like
67:46
about it it's it's it's it's at least repurposing a box as opposed to
67:52
um you know just throwing it away like why not
67:57
Quantum breaks cutcenes this was originally posted by Sam fiser on the
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Forum will require the liveaction
68:04
cutcenes will require an internet
68:08
connection that is some you know what I I think this was actually added after I
68:12
started the show here so I don't I have not I have not reviewed this I did not
68:16
know that this was posted a few days ago though will require an internet
68:19
connection so wow that is that is really
68:23
that is a really weird thing so it's a Time War shooter that employs a Blanda
68:26
video game cut scenes and a liveaction TV show attempting to tell a story in a
68:31
new cross media way okay very cool so the liveaction cutcenes will not be on
68:36
the disc but will actually be streamed to your PC the developer says that there
68:40
wouldn't have been enough room to get it all on dis because there's actually 40
68:44
different variations of the show Xbox One players will have the option of
68:48
downloading episodes but PC players will not the game is set to release April 5th
68:54
so I kind of get it okay there's no room on the disc so we have to have it streamed but well hold on a second if
68:59
you can stream it to me then you can give it to me as a download and if
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you're going to give it to Xbox players then why aren't you going to give it to PC players that is a whole lot of
69:08
nonsense that really doesn't make any sense to me at all I mean
69:14
to yeah I yeah that's very frustrating
69:20
well I I wish that hadn't been added to the dock now because now now I'm just
69:24
upset uh
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um this is cool so this was originally posted on the Forum by cloaked and the
69:31
original article here is from RS Technica with the next update on the
69:36
PlayStation 4 you will be able to stream games to your PC or to your Mac oops
69:42
sorry it's hard when I'm running this whole thing myself there's like a
69:45
touchpad and there's two mice in front of me um it's a feature
69:51
that to my knowledge I I've actually yet
69:54
to encounter someone who extensively uses steam in home streaming like I kind
69:58
of get it on the handheld side whether it's a PSVita um or whether it's
70:03
something like an NVIDIA Shield which didn't take off I mean they never even
70:06
refreshed it we never even got a new Shield portable that should tell you
70:10
that should give you some idea how popular the feature was um the whole
70:13
streaming from your gaming system to another device thing really hasn't taken
70:17
off yet um so I don't know how many people are really going to leverage this
70:22
but it's cool to see more options being
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offered um I'm very interested to see how they handle PC inputs so things like
70:32
um can you actually play the game with the keyboard and mouse will PlayStation
70:35
game developers be expected to add that kind of a support or will you basically
70:39
be expected to just play PlayStation 4
70:43
with a PS4 controller on a screen that's connected to your PC not 100% sure
70:51
um y yeah oh I am so I am so sad I am so
70:59
sad right now that that graphics card is
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broken now I'm just now I just can't now I just can't
71:08
focus um All Right Far Cry Primal map
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this was originally posted by Trick star on The Forum original article here is
71:16
from gamer pressure.com and Ubisoft
71:20
recycled Far Cry 4's map in Far Cry Primal apparently so if you have a look
71:24
here the similarities are actually are
71:28
actually pretty striking um I guess that's pretty much
71:33
all there is to say about that so thank you guys very much for tuning in to the
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WAN Show thank you to our very special guest Dennis for joining us today and we
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will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel Luke should be
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back next week I believe so uh expect a more normal W show thanks again for
71:52
watching and I'll see you guys next time
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sorry guys no after party I've got some work to do been really bus lately