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The WAN Show - Valve, You Suck Right Now & Google a Carrier?? - April 24, 2015

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2015-05-07 · 17,645 words · ~88 min read

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0:00 to the W show W

0:06 show show yeah it's my favorite show because

0:12 it is my show this would be if it was

0:15 your show it would be your favorite I forget how the song goes but whatever it

0:18 was Tom Green Tom Green Show it's not the green

0:22 Tom I don't remember the tune because I never watched the Tom Green Show I didn't really like it but yeah oh really

0:28 yeah I I I I don't I Can't Tell You Why

0:32 Tom Green Show I'm not mistaken that's the duct tape one right uh oh I don't

0:38 know wait no that's the Red Green show Red Green show I like the Red Green show

0:43 you don't know who Tom Green is uh he was like pre the prej he was like the

0:48 pre jackass jackass like the shock the shock value oh yeah yeah like he he like

0:54 televised his testicular cancer operation and stuff like that like yeah

0:59 that's that's him well I mean conquering cancer is good yeah I don't want to look

1:03 at his balls no so there's good things

1:07 and bad things about all of this um uh not much not much bad to say about our

1:12 first uh sort of teaser topic of the day so Skye CPUs information has been

1:18 leaked oh right I'm I heard there was a lake in the sky

1:23 oh wow I heard that was the information that was leaked is the Skylake leaking

1:27 it could be what what are we going to do without

1:31 our Sky water is that what rain

1:34 is Sky Lakes leaking clouds are actually

1:38 just these big puffy Bulls you are the Rain Man the cloud just moves too

1:43 quickly and then the water shifts over the side and it just falls down that's

1:47 what rain is anyways Google project F

1:51 and I'm not going to really say anything else about that we'll talk more about it later it's good thing this shows about

1:55 technology and not and not science not weather patterns

2:01 that's why when it's sunny out it doesn't look like the clouds are moving

2:04 that's why when it's stormy out it looks like the clouds are moving really fast speaking of Stormy my whole world is

2:08 stormy right now because valve has released an update that enables paid

2:12 mods through the workshop something

2:15 that yeah we'll have to talk about later okay also the first USB typc phones are

2:21 being announced and this is important for a number of

2:25 reasons and we'll hit you with that later too first the intro will it work

2:29 will it work no no how did that not work

2:32 I told you it's constantly broken that is so stupid this is a local file square

2:41 space hold on let me just turn the the volume's so loud I'm sorry headphone

2:46 users I'm sorry God CLI the thing there

2:49 you go okay uh how do I make that go away awesome I got

2:55 this I wouldn't be able to do that right now no you wouldn't your knee is broken

3:00 just like just like the difference between these two things is broken also

3:07 Lind fresh

3:10 book it's so exciting I'm so excited I

3:15 would like my books to be fresh and I just can't hide it oh I'm glad it's

3:22 Friday I am so glad it is Friday today I'm glad it's Friday too it has been a

3:28 long frak in five weeks

3:31 week it's been a long five weeks like

3:35 guys I was on vacation but I you know what okay I'm sorry we'll get into the

3:39 actual show later first I'm going to talk about my vacation yeah I was on

3:43 vacation but it was like the worst vacation ever I mean I mean infants

3:49 toddlers you name it they were there and

3:53 they were my problem like and they were sick I mean imagine this okay think

3:56 about this you ever been on a plane right and there's like a cry baby right

4:00 across the aisle from you and you're just like holy crap won't that parent

4:07 shut that kid up I could go over there

4:10 and pound them into the ground and take that kid and throw it out the plane okay

4:15 even like babies so yes that now imagine

4:18 for a second that you're that person with everyone staring at you oh maybe

4:24 you should shut the kid up daring dagger what are you supposed to do I don't know

4:28 I'm not a dad that's your job to hit them you think then they won't cry you

4:32 think that's how it works I can't tell welders how to weld I'm not going to

4:35 tell a dad how to Dad you think any do you think there's a freaking manual yes

4:39 for well there is but it's it's not very

4:43 good no the government of BC they have like a yeah yeah there's a manual that's

4:47 awesome yeah there's like an infant one and like a toddler one Finland where

4:50 they send you like a whole package it's like this big box and you have a whole

4:54 bunch of supplies and I don't know if there's any books on how to do anything

4:57 but there's a whole bunch of supplies and stuff and then when you're done you empty out the box like when you take

5:01 everything out of it the Box becomes a crib you lost me at packages I thought

5:04 we were talking about something else but uh I mean sure that cool story though um

5:08 so so anyway worst vacation ever and

5:11 then I come back for like two or 3 days

5:15 or something like and then well hold on at the end of the vacation I go to Japan

5:18 and I have to hang out with this guy for like 3 days or something like that yeah

5:23 two and we did the Japan wi oh my goodness that was such a long day like

5:28 we must have worked 18 hours that day was either in airports or in the air

5:32 longer than I was in Japan for that trip

5:35 awesome so uh so after Japan I came back

5:38 I was home for 2 or 3 days then I went down to Florida to film a thing for

5:42 Intel and HP and I was down there for like 3 days so basically like I arried

5:47 late at night cuz that's not a short flight Vancouver to Florida is about as

5:51 far as it gets within North America not quite but like pretty darn close so I

5:56 like Wast an entire day flying plus the time change so that's you know 11 hours

6:01 in the air no and if you count being at the airport on time then so it's like 13

6:06 or 14 hours including like transit times and stuff then I basically crash film

6:12 all day the next day y go home and work

6:15 or go back to the hotel work crash then I burn the entire next day going back up

6:20 to Canada thankfully I got my 3 hours back but it was like an early morning

6:24 flight so I get back I go to NC I film I come back here I film wano after filming

6:29 a couple things then I'm like I go home I sleep Friday night I

6:36 get Saturday with my family and then 100

6:39 p.m. Sunday I ship off to Munich so I go

6:42 to Germany with Nick van burkel and then I'm there until Thursday this Wednesday

6:48 night this week finally yesterday I was

6:51 back in the office back in Action today

6:55 I was back in the office um it is good

6:59 to be back and we are going to get going on some of those projects that have I

7:03 mean people have been asking why is Luke so in so many of the videos these days

7:07 because lus has been all over the freaking planet and hasn't been in the

7:12 studio quite literally when are we getting more scrapyard Wars well gee I

7:15 don't know maybe we would have to have one of our two

7:18 co-hosts in the country for that to

7:21 happen for like any reasonable amount of time there was okay you had a plan to

7:26 shoot a scrapyard Wars that was insane that was insane but at one point in time

7:30 he's like no man we got to do another one I'll be back for 2 days I can land

7:34 we can film the whole thing all of it in the 2day period I'm like what there's no

7:40 way that's going to work but I'm back

7:44 and we will have we will be filming a scrapyard Wars to coincide with the

7:49 opening of the new office uh you guys should let me know if you want to see a

7:53 new office update presumably they've been working on it I haven't seen it I

7:57 would love to go in and show you guys how the sets are going and how the

8:01 office building out is going I'm personally mostly focused these days on

8:06 building up the new it infrastructure to put into the new office I'm really

8:10 excited about that Luke and I were looking at the numbers kind of going oh

8:15 snap son we're going to have two $4500 zons we're going to have I think it was

8:20 11k worth of Kingston ssds yeah just

8:23 we're going to have I think it was 16k worth of Seagate hard drives and this is

8:28 this is just like four things out of all

8:32 the server so I think we're going to have something like three or four racks in there we're going to anyway there's

8:36 the Norco racks there's everything else um there's the 45 drives rack there's

8:41 potentially um a rack for the a dedicated rack for the security system

8:45 that you don't even know about yet um well a lot of high-end security systems

8:49 need rack mount stuff so I'm not surprised at all so that's a whole other

8:52 thing um so yeah so we are going to be looking at like some pretty mad gear in

8:57 that room so I'm going to be I'm getting all of that arranged ahead of time so

9:01 that when we move in we are going to have some Wicked infrastructure I don't

9:05 know if some of you guys saw the Instagram post that I sent out before

9:08 the W show today but what I've been working on most of the day today is

9:12 consolidating all of the data off of the stupid shelf covered in hard drives onto

9:17 the storinator so that's the the 45

9:20 drives um rack mountable system and I've

9:24 been building up the new day-to-day use

9:28 server so that's one with the 24 by the

9:31 way they are not v300 ssds so many people are like oh why are you using

9:35 Kingston v300 they're actually Kingston KC Series drivve so they're the new

9:39 KC wow I should really know this uh the

9:42 Box they came in was here somewhere but I've lost it don't worry about it KC

9:46 something or other anyway it's their new KC series business drive so that is what

9:50 we're actually using so it's going to have 24 drives in raid 50 oh KC 310 uh

9:57 24 drives in raid 50 so just for laws I

10:02 made a 24 Drive raid zero so each eight

10:06 Drive chunk is raid zeroed then I raid

10:09 zero striped the entire three arrays on

10:13 each of the three raid cards and that I had a lot of people saying oh lonus has

10:17 got a RAM Drive setup no no that's 24 ssds running in

10:25 raid zero on some pretty highend LSi

10:29 controllers those are 92 71s pretty nice controller cards so uh

10:35 people in chat are like WTF is raid 50 raid 50 ah yes

10:41 okay well it's it's raid five and I think that was nope that's the only

10:44 explanation they need I was I was doing this because I was expecting you were going to talk and I was going to do the

10:49 symbolism while you were talking I actually do that a surprisingly large

10:52 amount of time but it didn't work out because there was no speech so it was

10:55 just like okay I can talk now so so raid 50 is the way we're actually going to

10:59 run the ssds and that is with three eight Drive raid fives so that's 7 + 1

11:05 for parody okay so we lose three drives

11:08 worth of capacity and then I'm going to take those three raid fives and use the

11:12 operating system to software stripe them so we're going to get a total of I think

11:16 it's around 19 terabytes of usable raid

11:20 50 storage and I ran some benchmarks on that too performance is looking really

11:24 good especially for reads which is what we want because this is something that

11:28 people are going to be using to play back media in real time in 4k on their

11:35 project timelines on their individual workstations so that one's going to have

11:39 20 Gigabytes excuse me sorry 20 Gigabytes

11:44 of SSD storage is and then it can

11:47 withstand up to three drives being lost as long as it's one per array and

11:50 there's going to be a cold spare just in case something does fail so we can pop

11:53 that in there I could have gone with a hot spare and a raid five but then I

11:57 only get 18 D of capacity which kind of

12:01 sucks and especially because we're going to be backing it up constantly to

12:05 another server throughout the day I figure what the hey let's just let it do

12:09 its thing you know what I mean um so so

12:12 that's going to be that's going to be super awesome then it's going to have 20 gigabit per second bandwidth to the rest

12:17 of the office so people will be able to actually draw data off of it at 2 gabt

12:24 per second sustained Madness absolutely no Sparta

12:31 no new office get

12:36 it you have to like spit a lot though so

12:39 I was like I I can't do it cuz it's going to peek the crap out of the mic yeah I was kind of thinking about it too

12:44 I was like I was like like should I if we had like a really good attenuation

12:48 setup i' just go for it all the headphone users are just going to like

12:52 literally bleed yeah I'm going to get saliva all over the blade and Stu well

12:55 you could like and then go up yeah it's still still spray on there and like it

13:00 could even get on you and I mean I there are certain there are ways I like to

13:04 apply saliva collateral damage for an epic yell oh

13:08 wow so let's go ahead and uh get get

13:12 this show underway so let's start with the uh the sque lockers article someone

13:16 just said 20 Gigabyte raid wow lus nope

13:19 that's wrong anyways did I say 20 Gigabyte oh I did too I'm sorry yeah I

13:24 did 20 20 terabyte R Sor sorry no

13:30 um anyways s clocker article I can actually post it in the TW chat the

13:38 trat wow W

13:41 show it's a good thing it's

13:45 live for who I don't

13:48 know uh so oh man as you might expect

13:52 this might be a little bit hard to read um but if you can scroll down you can

13:56 make pretty good sense of the chart or I believe on the lonus tech tips article

14:01 which I can also post I think it has an English version so basically I mean it's

14:06 mostly it's mostly numbers and things that we can pretty much interpret on our

14:10 own so the top end Skylake model is going to be a four core 8 thread 4 GHz

14:17 uh 95 watt TDP sounds an awful lot like

14:22 um the last so 4790k has an 88 watt TDP

14:27 has the same amount of L3 cache turbos to a higher amount at 4.4 has the same

14:32 base and the same core and thread

14:36 count so unless there are some serious

14:40 IPC improvements here we are looking at

14:44 another generation of status quo yep um

14:48 sounds very much like status quo I'm sure there will be a 10% Improvement uh

14:53 the 6600k breaks the traditional naming

14:57 scheme of the cor I 5 uh four core four thread variant of the

15:03 high-end one which is exceptional for no reason

15:09 whatsoever I don't know we have a pretty high clocked t- skew which is actually

15:14 pretty sexy looking there is a 2.8 GHz

15:18 3.6 turbo 35 watt processor so I can

15:22 geek out over that a little bit that's kind of cool I mean if you're into like

15:28 wow that's actually I mean that's that's pretty cool that's pretty cool there's

15:32 no like super badass option but there's the

15:36 like but the good news is that nice pre-assumption Intel has finally

15:41 actually restored some validity to the high-end platform so 2011

15:46 V3 is I but you don't want people to restore validity to something by like

15:51 stopping making the other thing better right it's not like they stopped making

15:55 it better but like you know what I mean cuz there

15:59 there might be improvements in other areas that don't really show up on the chart very well but it's probably going

16:04 to be that good old 10% that we've gotten used to so 35 Watts suck it um

16:10 the first USB type-c phones are being

16:13 announced uh this is off of stuff.tv

16:19 and you've probably never heard of it you know what I'm going to confess I

16:23 haven't actually looked at this yet so uh I believe they're all Chinese phones

16:28 so I don't think any of them are going to be necessarily available here they're

16:31 all I I believe Le TV or LV I'm not sure

16:35 how you're actually supposed to TV would be my guess TV I could be wrong but I

16:40 like it that way L TV phone uh USB type

16:44 any think it's one or two phones and a fablet um so you're not even classifying

16:49 them as phones anymore no all right I'm not I'm not

16:55 against you I'm just saying that they're just so

17:01 dumb not a big fab guy cuz I'm not a big

17:04 guy oh oh I get why some people like

17:07 them just to be clear I get why some people like them but you know it was

17:11 really refreshing for me to see the Galaxy S6 just be a normal size and not

17:18 have to up the ante in terms of just making it bigger I I do have to say

17:23 though this phone is too small the iPhone 5S yeah height is probably okay

17:27 but like when my thumb takes up that much of the screen I can't type I don't

17:32 have my six on me but I bet the six would be more like your size I typo

17:36 almost every word like it's insane the

17:39 thing I the thing I don't like about the six though is the rounded edges it just

17:43 it doesn't work I like this one's form factor very much except I just wish like

17:49 just make it a bit wider and then everything else would be great um so I

17:54 actually finished my Galaxy S6 review or okay hold on we should probably we

17:57 should probably talk about us USB 3 type-c uh so just to be clear guys USB 3

18:02 USB type-c doesn't necessarily have to be USB 3.1 this is actually something I

18:08 didn't realize I think I even did a fastest possible where I might have

18:12 actually covered that it doesn't have to be 10 gbit but didn't like absorb yeah I

18:18 gu I I think I covered it a little bit in my MSI coverage at C I thought they

18:22 all had to be 10 GB turns out they don't so the first USB 3 type-c device that

18:29 will be getting like finished device I don't know if I'm allowed to say

18:33 anything about it but it's going to be a USB 3.0 type- C so that's 5 gbit per

18:39 second versus USB 3.1 type-c which is 10 GB per second so I'm not necessarily

18:44 expecting phones to have 10 gbit per second connectivity because there would

18:48 be literally no benefit at all like even

18:51 high-end phones like the Galaxy S6 right now would not be even close to

18:56 saturating USB 3.0 if in just in

18:59 sustained transfer rate so it's it's not a concern at all for the time being but

19:04 uh the benefits either way are that it's reversible so you don't have to Fumble

19:08 for it in the dark in theory although this has not been validated yet it is

19:13 more durable than micro uh micro USB

19:18 type I have some worries about that I do too but you know what if there were two

19:23 companies that I would expect to kind of

19:26 validate something before tossing it out to all their customers

19:31 they would be apple apple implemented it yeah that's

19:35 true yeah but been changing a lot Apple

19:38 has never adopted micro b though and

19:42 lightning is an excellent connector yeah I think lightning is a lot better than

19:46 type-c so I I like in terms of the just the physical connector they adopted type

19:51 c not only did they adopt type c i mean and remember Apple's warranty policies

19:56 are extremely good yeah for them to go okay we're betting on type c being the

20:02 only connector to plug in anything else

20:06 apparently they expect that to last for the lifetime of that device with the

20:09 type-c that I've worked with so far and this could be a not fully released thing

20:15 um cuz it was all tester stuff this could be a wasn't worn in enough at all

20:20 yet thing cuz it was fresh but like to plug it in you have to like push pretty

20:26 hard and to take it out you have to pull pretty hard like when I first plugged it

20:30 in I thought it was fully plugged in and then let go and was like oh interesting

20:33 I didn't feel it lock and then Burl was like and like shoved it in and it

20:38 clicked in I was like wow okay and then you have to you have to ref on it pretty

20:42 hard to get it out like it's it's weird and I'm worried about the amount of

20:47 force that it takes right I feel like it could be bad for multiple things

20:51 interesting well I have a type-c motherboard and prototype device

20:55 downstairs that I'll be checking out maybe I'll take it home this weekend this was a while ago and this was with

20:59 like super tester level stuff so that

21:02 could all be wrong so anyway those those phones um oh yeah oh right there's a

21:07 bunch of other benefits so you can connect your device to an external display through it uh I mean you can do

21:12 a lot of different things through it with with dongles and whatnot uh thanks

21:15 to the USB at least 3.0 bandwidth um as

21:19 well as just the flexibility of the connector standard um I I have a lot of

21:24 Hope for it being better than micro because almost anything would be better

21:28 than micro I'm sure it will be so there's that uh we can talk a little bit

21:31 about those phones so there's a low-end one with a 5.5 in 1080P display a

21:35 mediatech X10 processor 3 gigs of RAM

21:39 3,000 mAh battery it's funny how like a 3,000 mamp battery 3 gigs of RAM and

21:44 1080p screen or low-end phone these days it's nice the mid-range one has a 2K

21:49 display Snapdragon 810 processor 4 gigs of RAM and the high-end fablet one is

21:54 also a 2K display but 6.3 in so it's huge uh 4 gigs of Snapdragon 810 and AKG

22:01 audio apparently they're getting into the whole uh you knowes rebranded audio

22:07 thing you know the funny thing about that is the companies that are

22:10 rebranding the phones whether be it beats or AKG or you know Harmon Cardon

22:16 or whatever else none of them make

22:22 DXs and for that matter does AKG even make

22:25 speakers uh not that I know of but but I could totally be wrong about that I

22:29 don't know enough so I guess it's just like a certification process or

22:34 microphones and headphones maybe the microphone is really good or something

22:38 anyway um let's move on to another

22:41 phone um okay sorry I have to show this

22:45 it's like headphones for your lifestyle and it shows that dude hugging what I

22:49 presume is his girlfriend and it's like I'm not listening to you hello good to

22:54 see you okay bye is that a closed yeah that's a closed exactly Clos back

22:59 headphone man here is that just AKG domcom yeah all right we gota we got to

23:03 share that with you guys let me just go ahead I find that to be wonderful fire

23:06 that up on my screen so so that's that's what's going down over here uh it

23:11 doesn't go down apparently because yeah yeah it's the one ARM hug

23:16 too yep and he's like not even looking at her no here's the one ARM hug I'm

23:20 looking at something behind you I'm going to hug he's checking out the chick

23:23 behind her it's totally happening maybe it's his sister and the girl behind her

23:28 is he's actually interested in so he's like oh hey yeah good to see you and

23:31 then going to the other girl right well that's that's that's a good way a

23:35 backend story line it's his sister yeah you're all about the back end aren't you

23:38 all right so moving on to the OnePlus 2

23:43 uh the original article here is from Android Central and I have the mlink in

23:48 here there we go you will finally be

23:51 able to buy the one plusus one whenever you want but uh they are also going to

23:58 to be um reintroducing the invite system

24:03 with the launch of the OnePlus 2 which

24:07 we're expecting sometime in the third quarter so sometime in about the next 3

24:10 to six months so as annoyed as you were

24:15 with OnePlus and the whole you know

24:18 invite system or send us your sexy photos and you can get a phone or you

24:23 can buy a phone or whatever all of the

24:26 completely back disastrous stuff I guess it's all coming back um they do

24:31 have some comments about the OnePlus 2 so we'll be far more prepared to to make

24:37 the uh the transition into whatever the original transition was something

24:41 something uh we're committed to maintaining razor thin margins in order

24:45 to give as much value as possible back to users and this increases our risk it

24:49 will bring the challenges that came along with a brand new product and initially our invite system will help us

24:53 to manage that risk it also helps us to be sure that every one plus two user

24:58 gets the amazing experience that they

25:01 deserve sure man so there's some rumored

25:04 specs of the OnePlus 2 there's a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 processor

25:09 Android 5 dual SIM card support which is kind of cool for like some people I

25:13 think it's kind of cool but not everyone care yeah I would like it too 4 gigs of

25:17 RAM micro SD card support which is going away on a lot of phones so that's nice

25:21 to see yeah I was really surprised to see Galaxy S6 with no removable battery

25:25 and no micro SD yep and a 3300 M hour

25:28 battery with that said the one time that

25:32 I've ever really had to use micro SD on an Android device it let me down I tried

25:38 to use the micro SD expansion on my shield uh Shield portable what I can't I

25:43 can't figure out what NVIDIA is calling any of this stuff is that one of our news articles today no I I didn't look

25:47 at it in the article but they renamed the uh Shield console they renamed it

25:52 Shield Android TV it's like what are you are you Android TV are you Shield you

25:57 don't know what you are and so and so I think it's still called

26:02 The Shield portable the handheld one okay so I wanted to store some emulated

26:08 games some ROMs on it and like the original Shield yeah okay yeah see

26:12 exactly well because there's Shield classic there's a Shield tablet now with

26:15 more aspartame The Shield tablet's technically handheld yeah you're that's

26:20 true like I'm not saying you're wrong just confusing it's incredibly confusing

26:24 so I wanted to put some ROMs on an SD card turns out that if you load a ROM

26:29 off an SD card with the Retro whatever Arc retro Arc whatever it's called Uh

26:35 something something save states right yeah not that we condone uh original

26:39 cartridges and all that noise um so save states don't save they try to save and

26:45 then there's like a write permissions problem something something I have to

26:49 put it on the actual internal memory so I'm sitting here going what do you

26:52 people actually use this for because I've switched to a streaming music

26:56 service videos and so you don't use the videos part

27:00 photos okay but you're not going to take photos with your Shields I'm not going

27:03 to take well even on my phones I'm not going to take more than like 16 gigs is

27:07 not enough no so I don't buy into that but I'm not going to take 32 gigs of

27:12 photos and I don't need a bazillion apps like I think I I like to think people

27:17 have mostly gotten over the I need 200 apps on my phone thing because there's I

27:22 mean I can't come up with a reason to have more than about 50 you know or like

27:26 and then like a plus or minus you know like 10 for like the couple games you're

27:30 playing right now the I have the junk folder and then I have the super junk

27:33 folder and the super junk folder I don't have probably more than 50 but the super

27:37 junk folder is literally just like the stuff that comes with the phone that I

27:40 can't get rid of the mobility apps yeah yeah or like whatever junk that I might

27:45 need to access once in however long somehow dbrand managed to send me a bell

27:50 phone and I was just like

27:54 great I'm sure glad I didn't just get a random carrier unlocked one

27:59 it's like how did you find this they're not even

28:03 Canadian that's so random but yeah I mean I found that even having some apps

28:08 installed on my phone tanks the battery life like I had that issue with and

28:12 maybe it's resolved by now and maybe it was just particular to the 1 M8 but I

28:16 had that issue with Plex just junking

28:19 the battery life of the 1 M8 even when I wasn't using it at all so like I I don't

28:24 know I think 32 gigs is is Lots I think 64 gigs is is tons um and the 128 gigs

28:31 that I have on the iPhone 6 is like way more than enough so uh I don't know I

28:36 I'm not I don't care that much about SD expansion and I don't really care that

28:40 much about removable battery but I do wish that the Galaxy S6 had Canadian had

28:45 a higher capacity battery are they oh a

28:48 bunch of people were like what they are Canadian oh

28:52 oops uh well Canadian owned and operated

28:57 founded on 11 111 same time that Skyrim came out

29:02 yeah never forget Skyrim

29:09 release um uh so right uh OnePlus is also

29:16 expected to launch the OnePlus light so that is not a phone it's a

29:23 light actually it's a phone so it's kind of a cut down version of this so it's a

29:28 there's an event wait event scheduled on the 20th of April this is an outdated

29:32 article dang it horribly well let's see

29:35 if we can find some actual information on the OnePlus light which so it's like

29:40 one plus one light get it okay so

29:45 release date specs features and improvements so the OnePlus light so

29:49 this is from the Latino post they must oh sorry I wasn't listening I was I was

29:54 reading the Latino post it's fine I'm surprised their SEO is good enough that

29:58 they were the first I think they were the second hit for OnePlus light

30:01 something along those lines wow their site is slow look at all them yeah holy

30:06 actual balls and they don't have just like a wow it's just so many things are

30:10 loading it's just a link to John Ringer's video and then like a mass ton

30:15 of ads the most ads holy crap and like a

30:18 bunch of com in down there okay this site is terrible so I don't care anymore

30:23 I've I've I've lost my attention span for it so Google project 5 yeah original

30:29 article here is from the verge.com so I'll go ahead and just in case you

30:32 weren't sure if Google has all of your

30:35 data yet yeah now you can be 100% sure

30:39 because they can be your cellular providers tell me this that news last

30:43 week about Belle selling customer information who would you rather Google

30:48 or Bell at this point you might as well keep it all in

30:53 one place Google might as well just have all of it since they already have it all

30:56 anyway like whatever I don't know well they yeah they know okay they do know

31:00 where you are all right I I was telling okay Taran posted on something the other

31:06 day that he was happy that that service that he posted it on um didn't

31:11 necessarily know where he worked and

31:14 lived and what he did for work and all this kind of stuff because it would keep

31:18 asking him about it and I read it and didn't comment on it but I was like

31:23 dude they know where you're logging in and where you stay logged in overnight

31:27 and then they they know where you log in every day and who else all logs in there

31:32 and then who else has those things filled in their profiles while you're

31:35 there like they know they just want you

31:38 to fill it out so that it can tell everyone else really easily and so that

31:42 you give them 100% permission to know that information they know exactly

31:46 what's going on y like that's why what is it like uh Kmart or whatever knows

31:51 when people are pregnant often before they do because their like shopping

31:54 patterns will change and stuff like they know

31:59 yeah it's done anyways they want to be a cellular provider um it will be running

32:04 on both Sprint and T what runable Sprint and T-Mobile switching between the two

32:08 as well as Wi-Fi based which is pretty cool I'll talk about that more later um

32:12 20 bucks a month gets you talking texting and Wi-Fi tethering and

32:15 international coverage in 120 plus countries and a flat this is a really

32:19 interesting pay model for their dat hold on can I jump in for a minute yes how is

32:23 Wi-Fi tethering not included it you mean other this yeah how

32:28 is Wi-Fi tethering still a feature it is

32:31 2015 yeah man that makes me mad every time I go down to the States and because

32:36 I'm just using a pay as you go and like I get it you're not going to give you

32:41 know you're not going to give it all away to the you know pay once per use

32:46 customers if you know what I or something wherever I was going with that and it's just depart um so like I get it

32:52 you're not going to have every feature I don't expect to have you know voicemail

32:56 transcribing to text messages and sending it to me like I like I get that

32:59 but not being able to use the data that I paid for is really frustrating like I

33:05 was trying to do something you playing the show oh

33:09 uh no a whole bunch of people are saying sorry I'm confused a whole bunch of

33:13 people are like hey Lon it's the W Show starting I'm like what the I don't know

33:18 uh do want just mute it just in case it's muted that one oh sure cool okay

33:25 sorry keep going um so where was I going with this right right right right right

33:29 I paid for the data why can't I use it on my laptop like I was trying to figure

33:33 out a login problem with PayPal and I was like freaking out and the mobile

33:36 site wasn't working properly on my phone I was just like I would really like to

33:41 use another device right now for like two minutes I just need to load a couple

33:45 Pages reset a password anyway sorry go it's not like

33:51 you're going to not do it you're just going to do it in a more annoying way Google's including tethering so Google's

33:55 including it and then this is a really interesting pay model for data I like I

34:01 don't know okay so it's a flat $10 per Gigabyte of data in the US and abroad

34:06 which is nuts for one but then if you don't use your data you get credit back

34:10 for what you didn't use so if you go with a 3 Gigabyte plan so it's $30 and

34:16 only use 1.4 gabt in a month you get $16

34:19 back and if you go over you only pay the

34:22 same $10 per Gigabyte what so why have a why isn't it

34:30 all just Flex

34:34 plant right like

34:37 what like I'm sitting here reading this point like okay isn't it going to be a

34:42 lot more work to deal with all the credits back and

34:45 forth why don't you just make everything a flex plan anyways I don't know so if

34:50 you go over your cap it's exactly the same as if you didn't go over your cap

34:54 but had a higher cap so you can put like a data cap in

34:58 your phone and cap it that way or you can just pay the same amount all the

35:01 time and it's fine anyways so it's pay for only what

35:05 you use which is great it requires not pay for only what you use it's pay for

35:09 as much as you think you'll use and get credit back for what you didn't use what

35:12 you didn't use I guess requires a special SIM card for project 5 which

35:16 makes sense uh works on both existing NEX Nexus 6 devices and new ones so I

35:20 don't know if it's only a Nexus thing uh oh right available for only Nexus 6

35:24 owners my bad um no contract no family Clans available but it's pretty freaking

35:30 cheap so whatever um phone numbers live

35:33 in the cloud so you'd be able to make uh calls and do text messaging stuff from

35:38 your computer through your phone number so that's definitely going to be a

35:42 Hangouts integration thing yeah that's going to be that's that's awesome I mean it was one of the things that I liked

35:47 about um I for I don't even remember what the word they have for it now is

35:50 but when I had the iMac and the iPhone 6 at the same time um shoot I don't

35:57 whatever I don't remember what the word for it was but I could take calls on the iMac which was a terrible experience

36:01 because the microphone is on the back of the display because apparently Apple's

36:04 Engineers don't understand how Sound Works but uh on a on a device that

36:08 actually has a decent headphone microphone solution plugged into it that

36:11 would be that would be awesome my phone could just stay in my pocket and I could

36:14 just throw my headset on when I'm sitting at my computer at work freaking

36:18 great yeah so I'm happy about that I think that's really cool um so it's

36:23 invite only so there's that also uh

36:26 looks like it's Nexus only for now so

36:29 basically most people unless they have large hands and an invitation are not

36:34 going to be taking advantage of this particular offer wow um all right uh

36:40 yeah I'm sure it'll open up more later but for now it's pretty locked down I

36:44 send invitations to people with large

36:50 hands anyways doj which I don't know

36:54 what that stands Department of Justice cool they could stop Comcast from

36:57 becoming a mega terrible thing with Time Warner which is good because of antitrust laws um so apparently Comcast

37:03 has actually dropped its $ 45.2 billion doll bid on Time Warner in light of uh

37:09 the doj becoming mad and being like you can't do that I think they're going to

37:12 what is it actually called uh lawsuit

37:16 they were going to put down a federal lawsuit so then Comcast was like nope um

37:22 we don't even necessarily need to keep talking about it because I guess it's not happening but it could have made

37:26 them control 30 % of the market for pay TV which is a lot um they would have

37:31 controlled more than 50% of broadband internet Market in the United States

37:35 which is a crap ton so I'm happy that the doj did

37:40 something I I guess I just the thing that I don't

37:44 um like the the thing that continues to

37:47 bother me though is that they're cozy enough that they wanted to merge so it's

37:51 not like having them remain separate it's not like they're not going to work

37:54 together yeah it's it's it's not it's not like it's not like the consumer wins

37:59 it's not like yeah Choice free market they've already been avoiding each other

38:03 in terms of market share y so like that's not going to stop it might even

38:07 just get a little bit more aggressive that's all I I I doubt it like why you

38:12 already have enough money to buy the Earth and all the heavens so no it might

38:15 become more aggressive about not oh being in the same market share oh yeah

38:19 like they might even just avoid each other more see it's funny because I thought you meant business aggressive

38:24 but what you actually meant was just being a jackass aggressive okay well

38:28 aggressively aggressively jackass we need like a shirt aggressively is such a

38:33 nicely like uh Dynamic word MH because

38:37 you can be aggressively in love with someone or you can aggressively hate

38:40 someone no can't or you can yeah you can you can you can or something can have

38:45 aggressive lines on it tell me tell me this uh okay hold on if

38:52 you're in love with someone and then someone smacks that person we're going

38:55 togive we're going to St P this because

38:59 if if it's like uh

39:02 okay aggressive love yes

39:07 no uh you know pursuing one's aims or

39:11 intents forcefully sometimes unduly so hold on let's just can we just can we

39:15 just put this out to the can we just put this out to the audience it it it

39:20 doesn't matter because words mean what we decide that words mean because

39:25 without us You' defended the EXA what you just said so many times can we all

39:30 just calm down for a second see half the twitch chat is talking about rape right

39:34 now I didn't say it was a good

39:37 thing oh okay I didn't say it was a good thing at all all right all right okay so

39:41 you're not saying it's a good thing but

39:47 um cuz what I was going to say is if if

39:50 I'm you know staring into her eyes and

39:54 it's like okay I got to think of like something Charming to say right now am I

39:58 going to am I going to be like that's not what I said at all my love for you

40:01 is agressive no don't do that it attacks

40:07 me do that it carves out chunks of my

40:10 body and soul and takes it for itself I

40:13 guess in like the right context if you were like AEM couple an emo scene couple maybe

40:20 what you just said no no I don't know no

40:24 no I'm just putting the option out there the audience likes but they're wrong

40:28 they're wrong it's like I now know what percentage of our audience is

40:33 single aggressive love is a it works

40:38 it's just not necessarily a good thing it works terms don't have to be

40:43 good okay I think it's time to I think

40:46 it's time to uh to to move on let's actually let's do our let's do our

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41:10 W oh wow there's certain people on there

41:13 um who are these people you know what let's just let's just move back to our

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42:30 know the song you haven't listened to the song since we did that spot meing I

42:35 never listened to the song cuz I didn't have headphones why do you even you're the only one that could hear it why do

42:39 you even try squar space build it beautiful no that's okay that is their

42:44 new slogan or not is new since the song but that's not how Okay Squarespace

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43:18 just just getting an interview is good enough to go down and get a taste of the

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43:44 visit your webs I mean would you might be the only one to visit your website

43:47 there's nothing Squarespace can do about that but if people visit your website

43:51 whether it's your blog your store or your portfolio they will have a good

43:55 experience and they will feel like you are competent enough to have aite you

43:59 could apply to Squarespace get a trip to New York and start a blog about your

44:03 trip to New York on Squarespace that would probably even help your

44:07 application so uh go to squarespace.com

44:11 and use offer code Linus to save T you know this is why I really truly wonder

44:17 how we even get through sponsor spots when I'm not here because your entire

44:22 purpose for being here when I'm trying to talk about freshbooks.com for example

44:27 seems to be seg to throw me off which I

44:31 will not allow you to do fresh books is an online tool to allow you to focus on

44:36 your business and I don't mean toilet business this isn't a Dollar Shave Club

44:40 spot I what if you're a plumber okay

44:43 actually the plumber example is a good one because we even tied your dad into

44:47 this last time did your mom see that I don't think so did your dad see it I

44:51 neither of them have commented so maybe they both saw it and they're just like

44:54 nope just not going to talk about very Poss so Luke's dad's problem all right

44:59 seems to be uh to do with billing okay he had no problem coming in and

45:04 installing a fantastic copper pipe liquid cooling system for us but when it

45:09 came time to send us the bill for his work it took him uh just about the uh

45:14 gestation period of a human to actually

45:17 give me an invoice with fresh books you can do that stuff online you can log

45:22 your hour so you know how to build your clients you can send invoices by email

45:28 and then you can even get confirmations when they've looked at the invoice and

45:31 have people pay by credit card for the utmost simplicity so you can spend your

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45:52 decide if you like it see I didn't let

45:56 you screw me up I didn't even who was that sponsor I used to always get the

46:01 amount wrong for remember I used to never know how much it cost was it 54

46:07 yeah I think I think that's the one I think that is the one yeah I screwed up

46:11 nothing today ha take that all of

46:15 you all right so uh what do we have 11

46:20 pages of topics today we've actually been fairly on topic today and we're

46:23 still like there's a lot of Rapid fires we're still still boned all right so

46:29 Norway this is phenomenal Norway will be

46:32 the first country to shut down FM radio

46:36 the ministry of culture has finalized a

46:39 transition date in 2017 and I think this

46:42 is asinine there's a lot of technological advancements that I

46:47 believe in but there are advantages to

46:52 radio that are not necessarily overcome by

46:57 mobile data networks um I I yeah okay

47:03 yeah so it's not like it's not like there isn't you know another plan so

47:08 it'll be digital audio broadcasting also known as dab which will offer better

47:13 audio quality dab plus sorry specifically plus the daab radios will

47:17 not work uh so better audio quality other functionality like showing

47:21 information about the state uh station you're listening to and what song is

47:24 playing which by the way we have on FM radio um so that's a thing uh the

47:30 transition will cost Norway the equivalent of$ 1.3 billion US and the

47:35 200,000 dab radios will become useless as they don't support dab plus they've

47:40 already started advertising for the switch you get more radio in a digital

47:45 radio and I I just I plain don't get it

47:48 because the reality of it is we use FM

47:51 radio because it's cheap because it's

47:56 got great legacy compatibility and because it's good enough both in terms

48:01 of broadcast range and in terms of audio

48:05 quality I mean we can get radio stations from Seattle up

48:09 here which I do all the time if you want

48:12 to reach a bunch of people radio is

48:16 still a great way to do it because the reality of it is pretty much everyone

48:21 still owns at least one radio and we can

48:25 kind of count on that to work like when everyone you know jumps on their cell

48:29 phones in an emergency Well Radio is yeah I was just going to say radio is a

48:33 lot of time the emergency frequencies yeah so and and I I get it the ab+

48:37 radios are not cell phones but we're

48:40 counting on people to have them so the people who don't have those and we can't

48:45 necessarily reach by cell phone or mobile data because let's say there's an

48:49 emergency and everyone jumps on it and it's totally congested radio is going to

48:52 be the way to reach these people I don't understand why we need to phase this out

48:57 someone in chat said that they live in Norway and it just seems like they

49:00 always just want the newest stuff so all right well newest is not

49:06 necessarily always the best thing I mean

49:09 I I actually had a really I had a good conversation with Brandon about the uh

49:13 some of the new cameras that were released at NAB so uh those of you who

49:17 were following our neb coverage probably less than half of you based on The View

49:21 counts um would know that there wasn't it was about half of our normal view

49:25 counts even for coverage uh would know

49:28 that red released an 8K sensor upgrade

49:31 to their red whatever it is whichever platform it is I think it's the dragon

49:36 um so this is called the red weapon and I think whatever I think the camera once

49:42 you put the upgrade in it is called a red weapon it's very confusing because

49:46 they had the cuz if you upgraded the Red Epic to the new sensor it became a red

49:50 dragon and then I think yeah anyway so I

49:53 didn't think the weapon was an upgrade I thought you had to like

49:57 buy the weapon not sure anyway I think you could uh exchange and then it's 20

50:01 grand or 10 grand or something it was 10 grand at the show 20 grand after the

50:05 point is they have an 8K sensor and I was I was talking to Brandon about it

50:08 because Marcus has ordered one already as we know and uh we were we were just

50:12 kind of talking about it going why would we be using this um 4K is already I mean

50:19 sort of I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret uh we were releasing 4K

50:24 videos on YouTube that were upsampled 1080 for a long time nobody ever noticed

50:29 no one can tell because the main advantage of 4K playback on YouTube

50:34 right now is the higher bit rate um and

50:37 when you factor in also that the cameras that we shoot on the Sony fs700 and the

50:42 Panasonic GH4 both have 4K sensors so

50:46 their 1080p is actually down sampled it's like super sampled because it's

50:50 down sampled 4K when you blow that back up it looks pretty darn freaking good

50:56 any any way especially at any kind of reasonable viewing distance so unless

50:59 you're pixel peeping 4K is way more than

51:03 enough for web video and to which I kind of went well there's the future

51:06 proofness argument maybe you need more pixels in case you want to republish am

51:10 I ever going to republish a YouTube video on like some kind of futuristic

51:14 you know 5 10 years from now platform probably not so we were we were talking

51:18 about it a little bit and we kind of decided that 4K is already more than

51:23 enough for us so we'll be sticking with 4K and I just feel like like shooting at

51:27 a higher resolution is going to complicate the workflow in a way that is

51:31 just not worthwhile to me I mean if you're just one person working on it I

51:35 guess I can see why Marcus would like to do it because he's got the time to kind

51:38 of Tinker around with it and play with it and only one person has to learn a

51:41 new workflow with us we're trying to figure out okay maybe we could invest

51:47 that you know $10,000 or $20,000 on backend equipment that makes

51:53 the 4K workflow butter smooth and ab absolutely perfect as opposed to yeah so

51:59 so things like like storage servers that's something that a lot of content

52:04 creators completely ignore for some

52:07 inexplicable reason is having a proper

52:10 storage setup which is what we're moving to finally um so and and that's the kind

52:15 of thing that for the price of something like a Decked Out Mac Pro and like you

52:20 know a red weapon for example you could

52:23 have an amazing workflow as opposed to a

52:27 couple of really cool pieces of equipment so I I guess it's a priorities

52:30 thing um and also a scale thing because

52:34 I'm not going to go and buy 12 core Mac Pros for four editors that is like

52:38 straight up not happening whereas if it was for one then maybe you could pull my

52:43 you know twist my ARM a little bit um

52:47 Google is uh yeah wow look at that is

52:51 ditching the old YouTube API so let's go ahead it's not probably as big of a deal

52:55 as it sounds um for instance the Linus

52:58 tips.com website used V2 and now uses

53:04 V3 okay I don't know um not a huge deal

53:08 they will have to retroactively update devices so things that use the V2 API

53:12 such as some smart TVs Android and Apple TVs game certain game consoles iOS

53:17 devices that are old and outdated stuff like that yeah um would need an update

53:22 but it's not like they can't be updated well an iOS 5 locked device might not be

53:26 able to be updated so you might straight up not be able to use YouTube if you're

53:30 using an Apple TV second generation or older there's no current way to watch

53:34 YouTube on these devices straight up that's pretty brutal so that's really

53:39 sucky I guess um I guess we learned a lesson about buying functionality locked

53:45 boxes yeah PC for Life woo this won't really

53:51 affect like your website things yeah so

53:54 it's fine cuz like every website ever was like oh and then just updated it by

53:59 the way thank you Colonel Morse oh my goodness Colonel mortise

54:05 yeah why that was posted by Alex Goes high oh okay right we should probably be

54:10 saying who posted Lord Sparkle bottom ruy top war gamer cool Kingler one I

54:16 like mac and PC um syntax vgm Lord

54:21 Sparkle bottom again and Alex Goes High have given us the news for this week so

54:27 far and wordo 165 I both appreciate your

54:30 effort and wish you had never brought this to our attention at all because

54:34 this is basically the worst news of the week steam has introduced a new way to

54:40 support Workshop creators and line the pockets of valve Executives wait they

54:46 don't have that second part creators in the smallest possible way and line the

54:51 pockets of valve Executives as much as possible starting with the Elder Scrolls

54:55 five Skyrim of course of course it does

54:58 buying from the Steam Workshop try any mod risk-free for 24 hours nothing to do

55:03 with long-term support though that's kind of funny buying mods and made by

55:08 like you know casuals that don't have to

55:11 support it at all after the wow that's really weird so uh with over 24,000 free

55:17 mods I guess there's nothing here about the ones that are becoming paid very

55:21 quickly now that there is a price on it and uh calling all creators uh earn

55:26 money doing what you love Yeah set your own price that's cool you can add

55:32 contributors and uh where's the where's the part about the 25% hold on

55:38 75% oh that's not on here that's weird

55:42 so let's let's dive into this this is very much a developing story right now

55:46 so everything we're saying now um take

55:49 it as the information that we had in sort of the hours leading up to W show

55:53 today and not much more than that but uh

55:56 I guess I'm let's go with just the facts

56:00 then I think each of us will probably have to weigh in separately because I

56:03 think we're going to have kind of differing opinions here sure um so why don't we just do the facts the

56:07 initiative was introduced yesterday pitched as a way to support the people

56:11 that made the mods I mean we saw that on the page uh compensating these creators

56:14 is a way to inspire new modders to try their hand at creating new higher

56:18 quality items and experiences uh you can make cosmetic items sound packs custom

56:23 skins fancy houses epic quests entire new cities horse genitals whatever the

56:26 case may be for Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim

56:30 um many more of your favorite Workshop games will support paid content in the

56:34 coming weeks and they offer refunds for mods that are broken or don't work as

56:38 promised within 24 hours of your

56:42 purchase the sort of stuff that wasn't

56:45 on the page um that was discovered later and has outraged some consumers and

56:50 presumably some creators is that the Creator only receives

56:53 25% of the revenue from the mod sale so

56:58 a $10 mod is actually giving $2.50 to your favorite Creator and $7.50

57:04 cents to valve there's um I guess let's

57:08 let you go first you're you're running

57:12 with it I can go first okay one thing is opinion one thing is I I we like total

57:17 biscuit here he's been on the show before he has a video on it his content

57:21 patch number 195 is all about this and

57:25 he's probably way more well informed than we are so we will talk about it for

57:28 sure but I actually highly suggest going and checking out his thing I have not

57:32 watched it yet um I'll watch it later I didn't know there was a thing I will

57:35 also watch it later I'm very interested in what he has to say about it good old

57:39 John Bane um I don't like this for a number of reasons first off is the

57:44 24-hour support thing what hey um people

57:47 are like going off in chat about this this there's more information that came

57:51 out apparently the 75% is 45 developer

57:55 30 like 45 original game

57:59 developer okay okay so I'm just I'm just

58:02 said 75 valve okay so 45 45 game

58:07 developer yep 30 valve developer 25 mod

58:11 developer that's what people in chat are saying

58:14 okay okay that's interesting good to know um doesn't really change my opinion

58:18 on it okay so carry on then yes um well

58:21 maybe slightly but not enough to really make an impact so a big part of my issue

58:26 with this is that a lot of mods break things straight up break things they can

58:29 corrupt save files sometimes they can make so you can maybe the save file

58:33 isn't corrupted but you can't play it with that mod and you can't play it

58:36 without that mod so it's useless um

58:39 there's there's they can conflict like crazy um there's just a huge amount of

58:45 issues with mods and that's fine when

58:48 they're all free but what what happens if you have a whole bunch of free mods

58:52 installed and then you install a paid one and it breaks all your free ones or

58:56 the other way around you have a whole bunch of paid mods installed you install a free one and it breaks all of those it

59:00 doesn't matter for 24 hours and like okay if it breaks my whole save I don't

59:05 care about the $1.50 that the mod cost me I care about

59:09 the hundreds and hundreds of potential hours that I have into this game we're

59:13 talking about stuff like Skyrim I could have played that game for 800 hours have

59:17 a whole bunch of content mods installed that like double

59:21 quadruple the actual game length massively increase what I'm doing I

59:25 could have been playing on that one character the whole time and it could be

59:28 totally screwed because of that yeah you can say you should be backing up your

59:31 save file you should be doing all this other kind of stuff but still it's going to happen to someone and that's that's

59:36 crazy you only have a 24-hour window to get your money back and getting your money back isn't even the biggest

59:40 problem there okay continuing on past

59:44 that part the 75% thing is ridiculous 45% goes to the

59:49 game for just including mod support like I'm totally down with supporting the

59:54 game developer and sure maybe some percentage of it should go to the game

59:57 developer because we want to encourage them to actually have stuff like mod

60:01 support and with single player experiences like Skyrim where is their

60:05 recurring Revenue nothing yeah exactly so I'm actually I'm cool with giving

60:10 some of the money to the game 45% is

60:13 really high I think they need to invert

60:17 this whole system I think valve needs to get maybe 25% I think the game needs to

60:23 get maybe 30% then I think the mod developer needs to get probably more

60:28 than 45% I think it needs to be completely flipped anyways if it even

60:34 keeps those percentages at all yeah I don't think that added to 100 but I get

60:37 your point that's the numbers you gave me oh 45 30 and 20 that's why I'm like

60:41 what oh I thought I got confused when you were oh okay no I know it doesn't

60:45 work there's 5% it's 25 25 mod yeah 25 mod that's your problem um okay so I I

60:51 have some thoughts on this as well so there's there's a couple of things one

60:55 very positive takeaway from this is you see the big Blockbuster games like your

60:59 Skyrim hold up hold up see this is what I'm talking people are that's a whole

61:03 that's a whole other that's a whole other thingal we can we can talk about the we

61:08 can talk about the fact that people are stealing mods and reuploading them um

61:13 and valve will not pay the yeah there's there's a $400 cap anyway all of these

61:19 little rules are basically just sort of piling on to the crappiness that is

61:24 getting dealt to the mod in all of this in in all of this stuff I was actually

61:29 reading up on a couple of these things as you were talking but there's a couple

61:32 main main sort of bigger picture things that I that I want to address here so

61:36 number one is that it makes sense to me

61:40 that the game developers who are spending the time to develop these great

61:45 single player experiences are getting paid for it I mean we we see mod support

61:50 with games like Grand Theft Auto and with games like Elder Scrolls where

61:53 these are big budget games where there expecting to sell uh you know a thousand

61:58 bazillion copies and pretty much okay we

62:01 don't have any recurring revenue from this game but it's okay because we're

62:06 going to make that massive amount of money and there's going to be a really

62:10 long tail on the sales for years like

62:13 you you can still buy Oblivion and it would still be a great gaming experience

62:16 today even though it's been out for like eight years or something along those

62:21 lines so I so so the Blockbuster Games

62:24 they can include mod support kind of without worrying about it too much but

62:28 what incentivizes a smaller game developer to build a great single player

62:35 experience almost nothing why are we why

62:38 do we see a a billion you know online online multiplayer games why do we see a

62:43 billion mobas with you know microtransactions for skins why do we

62:47 see everyone in their dog I mean this was more of an issue five or six years

62:50 ago but why did we see everyone in their dog trying to build an MMO because game

62:55 developers want a recurring Revenue stream for their work and they want to

62:59 keep going ahead and working on it and developing it now with all of that said

63:05 do I think taking 45% of the revenue for

63:08 the developer as opposed to the modder who is the one actually extending the

63:14 usability of the product and potentially driving new sales of that product to new

63:18 users based on the whether it's missions

63:21 or whether it's new texture packs that make people want to rein invest in this

63:26 game or or buy the game when they haven't played it before do I think that

63:30 the game developer should be getting the Lion's Share of this deal absolutely not

63:35 are they supporting the mod are they are they are they creating

63:40 a system yeah are they creating a system where they're they're certain that the

63:44 mod will be whitelisting things are they qcing it are they making it so you can

63:49 roll back the mod are they are they creating a a a mod module so you can

63:54 manage your mods really well and so that if something does damage to something

63:58 you can easily undo it are they putting these systems in place is that is that

64:01 what the 45% is for I doubt it what

64:05 about valves 30% I mean you look at the people blatantly uploading stolen mods

64:10 already taking advantage of the system is valve investing their 30% in

64:15 painstakingly going through the mods and making sure that they work that would

64:18 fall under customer service so no right well I okay we all knew the answer to

64:23 this I was I was being I know I was taking a shot at the

64:27 um and then and then as for as for the

64:31 dev the 25% is completely unreasonable

64:34 as a YouTube Creator it's it's it's a

64:37 source of friction between YouTube creators and Google that Google takes

64:43 45% when ultimately we are creating the

64:47 content that sits on their platform now

64:50 with that said I've accepted the 45% YouTube tax and I've made a really good

64:55 living for myself and for the people

64:58 around me with the 45% YouTube tax with

65:02 abandoning that to them and all of that good stuff

65:05 because sorry hosting videos is going to be a lot more of an overhead yeah the

65:11 the back in that Google needed to do the storage of all of our videos the

65:14 distribution of all the videos and stuff is much harder than the really small and

65:19 YouTube brought us a really big audience compared to what valve is offering

65:24 moders simply by listing

65:27 mods the way that you were already able

65:31 to do in the workshop um so so the

65:34 YouTube platform has contributed enough that I kind of go oh crap that's a lot

65:38 of money but yeah fine I like I get it you actually have ongoing overhead

65:43 associated with with supporting me it

65:47 sucks but it's understandable yes with this system unless valve is contributing

65:53 a lot more than it seems like they are I mean I get it bandwidth is expensive

65:58 totally get that but that's the kind of thing where you could have the modder

66:02 actually just pay per use or something like that uh because there's there's no

66:06 there's no real reason why a very very small mod needs to have a bunch of

66:11 bandwidth cost associated with it and I think 25% is a completely unreasonable

66:16 amount of money to offer someone who actually did all of the work literally

66:23 all of it I mean in many cases these mods have their own dedicated websites

66:28 where you can go and visit the developer blog find out what's coming find out

66:31 what's not coming the ones that are well supported especially deserve a proper

66:37 amount of money for what they're doing something interesting one thing I have to butt in about is GTA has no official

66:41 mod support oh thank you it's it's uh

66:45 there's there's a bunch of games that do um but anyways but at least it is

66:49 modable there are games that are a lot more difficult w't be like a workshop

66:53 thing for it no that's anyway that's fine yeah um oh crap what was I going to

66:58 say now uh I forgot after

67:01 that the the the people that are supporting their own mods and stuff a

67:05 lot of the times they'll have donate options and donate options it's all

67:09 going to go to them except for like the little PayPal cut or whatever y but like

67:13 the one point that's so much more worth it to these people 2 point whatever

67:16 percent um so much more worth it so okay so so so but with all that said so I'm

67:22 super upset about the way this whole thing is structured I think it makes

67:26 absolutely no sense but there is

67:29 something that I've seen people upset about that has really annoyed me as as a

67:34 content creator the idea that mods

67:38 should be free why if it's crappy

67:43 sure but don't pay for it if it's crappy

67:47 then they're going to release the mod they're going to get a couple of onear

67:51 reviews on whatever Marketplace it happens to be whether I'm okay with like

67:54 super badass huge content mods or whatever costing money that's fine yeah

67:58 that's zero problem but but no I know I know you're not going to have a problem with this but and people are saying

68:02 modders can still upload for free if they want and that's fine but why should

68:06 they if modders are putting a lot of work into this why shouldn't they make

68:11 money doing it I mean the whole internet

68:14 mentality that everyone should do everything as a passion project um

68:19 doesn't make a lot of sense to me because with monetary investment from

68:23 the users comes I believe and and I mean

68:27 this is my principles as a content creator should come better investment

68:32 into the quality of the content I mean if a mod is as amazing as it is and it's

68:38 free and it's something that someone did purely as a passion project imagine if

68:42 you freed up that person's Time by making it so they didn't have to have a

68:46 day job anymore if that person has you

68:49 know some principles that they stand on where they believe that if they're

68:53 getting paid they should work hard and they should do a good job job that

68:56 should in turn turn into a better quality mod for you to enjoy and maybe

69:00 it cost you $4.95 or whatever the case may be I

69:04 don't understand why people are upset about that at all I just have a problem

69:09 with you know the $4.95 mod ultimately turning into a buck

69:13 25 in the pocket of the modder because that is a lot I mean when we consider

69:17 what a mod is going to cost I would expect most mods to be you can buy a

69:21 game on Steam for you know under 20 bucks a lot of the time like a a good

69:25 game an older AAA game even so I don't expect mods to go for 20 bucks very

69:31 often so when we're talking about $5 mods or you know $10 mods expecting

69:37 people to live off of an average revenue

69:40 per transaction of a150 to $2 or a buck

69:44 25 to $2.50 is absolutely ridiculous and

69:49 unreasonable and frankly insulting so

69:53 that's what and like saying hold on a second you're not taking into account

69:57 the major modders are not wanting this who cares then they can release their

70:01 Mod for free it's about Choice the community being upset makes no sense if

70:05 a modder wants to do something where they want to turn you know their modding

70:10 their modding passion into a business why shouldn't they be able to do their

70:14 passion I'm sure a lot of people are still going to release uh mods for free

70:18 especially a lot of the just like texture mod things where or not even

70:22 just texture mods but uh actually specifically not texture mods got

70:25 someone saying lus your car is being stolen no that wouldn't have been my car it doesn't have an alarm no alarm and

70:30 it's not it's not locked so they wouldn't have to break into

70:34 it fantastic now everyone knows your car is unlocked um anyways the like here's a

70:39 single sword which I actually found kind of funny was a lot of the ones that

70:43 you're able to currently pay for I think a lot of that kind of stuff might stay

70:47 free because people are going to go like oh I want to design a sword and they'll

70:50 go and like design a sword for Skyrim and be like oh that's pretty cool all right people can have it like I think

70:55 that'll happen quite a bit I don't think people are just going to stop modding

70:59 out of passion because now there's a potential way to make money yep but I

71:04 mean like I don't know so for me personally the fact that I could make a

71:08 business out of YouTube inspired me to build a team and to make much higher

71:12 quality content I think we can all agree that what we're doing now is light years

71:17 ahead of what I was able to do on my own back when I didn't have this awesome

71:21 team around me and I would like to believe that there will be the basement

71:25 moders who don't want to be paid and just want to do it for fun and don't want the pressure of customers that's a

71:30 real thing not wanting the pressure of people who are paying for your content

71:35 wanting people to have it for free so that if like something goes wrong you

71:38 can just go whoa yeah well this was free dude it comes with all the warranties

71:43 associated with free stuff that's sometimes I I brought this up earlier

71:46 and forgot about it that's actually one of the reasons why I was scared about

71:50 this and one of the reasons why I like buying things sometimes because if I buy

71:53 something and it breaks there's someone that I can hold accountable yep and I

71:57 can be like hey fix this I paid for it fix it or else I'll like bring hell on

72:02 you as much as I possibly can um if I'm downloading stuff for free if anything

72:06 goes wrong with it I'm just like okay

72:10 I'll submit a bug report or like try to fix it myself and if neither of those

72:14 things work then I guess that's about how that

72:18 goes I got a lot of people talking about how modders if they want to go legit in

72:23 their business so this is this is more of okay so so two things number one

72:26 people want us to talk about the $400 payment threshold from valve which is

72:30 nonsense by the way that is ridiculous the typical payment threshold is $100

72:35 for things like Google AdSense uh well for things like Google AdSense if you're

72:39 going to have actually affiliate programs that I've been part of um I

72:43 think Amazon's is $100 it's when you make a $100 yeah it's when you make is

72:47 the same as this no it's 400 no you get $100 when you make $100 yeah okay yeah

72:54 it's the same but it's not much less because lots of

72:58 mods will never like you could make a sword and you could be like this is a $1

73:02 sword and 350 people might buy it and you will never get your your $100 check

73:07 I believe it was Nick or ghost or I don't know someone just updated this you

73:11 need to get $100 before you can withdraw the funds so you must sell at least

73:16 $400 before you can withdraw the funds um and then shoot there was something

73:20 else that uh that people were bringing up on uh that people bringing up that I

73:25 wanted to address right um so the whole

73:28 thing about about modders a lot of them

73:32 kind of being kind of gray and sketch because they're releasing it for free so

73:36 a lot of them are not using paid versions of the often very expensive

73:40 software that's involved in 3D modeling and game creation um so honestly that's

73:46 the kind of thing that is just going to have to be up to the modders the ones that want to continue to do it for free

73:50 and fly under the radar I think are going to be put under a lot less scrutiny than the ones that decide to go

73:55 okay yeah I'm going to make a business out of this we're going to make items we're going to make game mods we're

73:59 going to make texture packs and I guess I better invest in some actual software

74:03 now because I mean honestly there's

74:08 um there there's there's not a lot that valve or the game developer can do to

74:12 police this and people are just going to have to be responsible and if they're

74:15 not able to be responsible that's ultimately going to be on them which is

74:19 which is sort of just yet yet another thing like we're putting all the extra

74:24 overhead on the modder for their

74:27 25% that they get out of this out of this whole thing the whole thing is

74:31 ridiculous

74:36 and yeah I don't know I actually didn't

74:39 really read our notes I was just going off the top of my head on a lot of this

74:42 stuff well a lot of this has been updated while we've been sitting here um

74:46 so there's that um one of the interesting things too is going to be

74:50 the people that potentially make it a paid mod on the workshop and a free mod

74:55 um in other ways like if you install it through like Skyrim Nexus or whatever if

74:59 they make it a free mod that way and a paid mod on the workshop that could be

75:03 fairly interesting that could pull people away from the whole Workshop

75:08 platform but then that'll only work for certain games I guess I don't

75:13 know um I don't know what else to talk

75:17 about we've got like 12 minutes

75:20 left um gamers in the UK showing a tendency of uh curbing pre-order habits

75:25 yeah I guess there's not really a whole lot to say about that did you ever post the link for the valve thing I think so

75:29 okay cool um 20% of UK Gamers have said

75:33 that they have either stopped pre-ordering or pre-order less games um

75:37 there's more information in that article but it's not a ton more information so

75:41 that's cool it looks like um you know I

75:45 was actually totally down to pre-order games a long time ago yep I used to Y

75:50 and it was fine and I actually never had a problem with it yep I I I got burned

75:54 on BioShock two and then I was done yeah and actually I got semi burned on Left

75:58 for Dead 2 I thought Left for Dead 2 was a complete waste of money for what they were charging for it uh that should have

76:03 been an expansion pack for 1999 um okay H okay well we can do this

76:10 really really quickly Liber Liber land

76:13 is the new European nation that runs off Bitcoin so they've got some pretty

76:17 unorthodox practices taxes all cryptocurrencies all crypto Curren

76:20 primarily Bitcoin uh so it's a small piece of land between Croatia and Serb

76:26 um it's the has no military taxes are

76:29 optional um they should have a military they just have like one dude with a

76:33 board with a nail through it be like yeah that's our military yep so they

76:38 won't let in people who have communist Nazi or extremist past you can't be

76:43 punished for past criminal offenses uh you have to have respect for other

76:46 people and respect the opinions of others regardless of their race ethnicity orientation or religion and

76:52 have respect for private ownership that is untouchable

76:55 so registrations and applications for the new country are going swimmingly as

76:59 over 20,000 people have already applied with over 100,000 expected by the week's

77:04 end I actually didn't know it was that simple to just start a nation we should

77:07 start lonus land I don't think it's that simp I want it to be more of a theme

77:10 park though because you have to have the land let's just buy a theme park okay

77:14 lonus land and it can be the theme park Nation theme park Nation I'm clearly not

77:19 talking about anything real at this point so let's go ahead and uh

77:26 the let's do a little bit of video card news yeah so GTX 980 metal and 980

77:32 TI uh let's go ahead and pull up the kit

77:36 Guru article here so the 980 TI is rumored to be

77:42 coming next month with a 980 metal in

77:46 the work so the rumored specs of the 980 TI would put it pretty darn close to the

77:51 Titan X so it would have a fully feature

77:55 GM 200 processor um it would have 6 gigs of

78:00 memory compared to 12 gigs on the Titan X and be basically pretty darn badass

78:06 with 372 stream processors etc etc

78:09 actually I don't know if that's the full number of texture units cuz I can't

78:12 remember the Titan X specs off the top of my head but the point is it'll be

78:16 super fast it'll be cheaper than a Titan x and notd by a whole heck of a

78:23 lot I guess that's pretty much all there is to say about it yeah I I mean NVIDIA

78:28 is pretty good these days at not making you know people who bought the high-end

78:33 Thing feel too bad about it I think people who bought Titans really got a lot of mileage out of that card even

78:37 though they paid $1,000 for it um the

78:41 980 metal enhanced version It's unknown

78:45 exactly what that is um kit Guru

78:49 speculates that it's highly unlikely it'll be based on a cut down version of the gm200 GPU um I would I would hard to

78:57 say we don't really know much about yield likely oh highly likely oh right

79:02 yeah I was just going to say that I don't agree with that at all because

79:05 both Titan X and 980 TI rumors would

79:08 indicate a fully featured chip so if any of these are have defective units on

79:13 them like they got to do something with them okay so 980 metal might might be it

79:18 uh no idea what performance or time frame will be in NVIDIA of course didn't

79:23 comment they generally don't really do that uh another article from kit Guru is

79:28 that 390x availability might be limited

79:33 thanks to low yields of hbm memory so

79:37 that's that new extremely high performance memory that is going to be

79:41 the 390x is sort of Feature Presentation

79:44 in terms of what it's doing that hasn't been done

79:48 before so I guess that's that's about it

79:51 pretty much all there is to really say about that it's basically a rapid fire topic yep um I mean there's a whole

79:57 bunch of other stuff in here about hbm memory so Stacks four Dam dies with two

80:02 128bit channels blah blah blah etc etc

80:05 it results in a memory device with a 1024-bit interface so yeah it's like

80:09 super crazy fast but Supply may be

80:13 constrained so an fairly interesting thing that I want to talk about

80:16 hammering on Steam again a little bit po depends on what you think about this

80:22 uh I'm not a huge fan but I'll talk about why in a moment anyway steam users

80:25 now have to spend $5 um in purchases before they can add

80:29 friends so I don't even think that means just adding $5 to your account I think

80:33 you have to actually buy $5 worth of things um you cannot send friend invites

80:38 open a group chat vote on reviews on green light or participate in the Steam

80:44 Market Etc so you can't like sell CSG go

80:47 Skins if you've been gifted csgo because then you wouldn't have spent

80:52 money okay um I had that problem before

80:56 I've made a new account gifted it something and then been unable to do

81:00 certain things I think you already couldn't participate on the market I'm not entirely sure right

81:06 um Dominic is saying something apparently you can just put $5 in your

81:09 wallet but it does say specifically purchases so I I like this personally um

81:17 I mean I was talking to did you know that over um EXT which one is it

81:21 overclock.net is no not a crap which one

81:25 is it extreme systems sorry extreme systems is a paid Forum

81:29 now has haven't they been for y the

81:32 years y yeah okay yeah yeah yeah so it's I think it's like a dollar to join

81:37 forever it's a dollar to join forever and their comment um their comments

81:42 about it I actually I I realized when I went there not signed in and I was like

81:47 what the crap this is a paid site now and then I logged into my old account

81:52 found out that it was fine because it had been created and not banned during

81:56 the the prepaid days um and so I messaged one of the one of the old mods

82:00 that I that I kind of used to know over there and I was like what what the crap's going on he's like oh um it's the

82:06 best spam prevention that we could have

82:09 possibly implemented it cost people practically nothing but it validates

82:13 that they're a real person it validates that they actually people who have

82:16 invested something into a platform are much less likely to dink around with it

82:21 and you know spam people I mean this is a big problem

82:25 always talked about like when ESO was coming out and I hadn't realized that it

82:29 was a giant pile of junk yet um I kept

82:33 on saying on the stream that I hoped it was a paid game I wanted there to be

82:37 like a subscription or at least a fee to buy the game or something like that and

82:41 then once I realized it was going to be junk I said that it was going to go to free play and it did um but

82:46 anyways that's regardless free games get

82:50 the toxic Community all the time because

82:53 you can just be like uh whatever I don't know if I'm going to come back to this

82:57 game time to just flame everyone as hard as I can until I get banned because if I

83:00 decide to come back I'll just get a new free account right who cares I might

83:04 lose my character or whatever but I can also just trade all my stuff to my buddy

83:08 then get banned and then if I want to come back he can just give me some

83:11 amount of value back or everything back or whatever um what I'm not a huge fan

83:15 of on this is someone who could have not

83:19 much access to any money or say their

83:22 parents don't want them to make online purchases at all and all they want to do

83:25 is do something like play TF2 online with their friends will be unable

83:31 to which is kind of poop um you could I

83:35 guess like if you hook up through Skype or whatever voice chat application you

83:41 could like tell people IPS bounce back and forth that way and then just make

83:45 sure all your communication is completely outside of the game but it's

83:48 kind of annoying that you wouldn't be able to communicate through the steam platform so it's not completely stopping

83:51 them because you could still join servers through that but there's a fair

83:55 amount of games um I think CSG go if you

83:59 want to do matchmaking I I know you can join

84:03 servers on csgo but I think if you want to do like the matchmaking side of

84:07 things um you have to have access to the

84:10 friend system right so like if your buddy wants to buy you csgo and sends it

84:14 to your account then you'd only be able to really play like I think you could do

84:19 matchmaking but I don't think you could do matchmaking lobbies with your friends because I don't know how you could

84:22 invite someone to it there might be some way around that twitch chat is probably

84:26 correcting me right now but it's just kind of annoying I don't know I've got

84:30 Lance B Taylor saying on Twitch chat twitch should be paid to get rid of the

84:34 idiots well a lot of streamers do that they have their yeah subscriber chat

84:38 subscriber only chat a lot of people have asked why we don't have subscribers

84:41 on this show it's because we only stream once a week so I don't think it's a

84:44 great value we think people who are giving us a recurring monthly

84:48 contribution should be doing it because of the content in general not just

84:52 because of our Twitch streaming so they should just be contri through the website yeah um just as a quick way to

84:57 address that so uh next article is on RS

85:00 Technica I got the link this time boop boop and iix it has completed

85:05 their tear down of the Apple watch which is rumored and this iser speculation I

85:10 don't know why this news article is getting uh spread so so rapidly rumored

85:15 to have sold uh I think it was how many

85:19 uh no up further uh three uh 3 million

85:23 units and that would be be $2 billion of Revenue and or something anyway it's

85:28 it's an estimate um so think big analytics

85:32 though estimates that gross margins on the Apple watch are in excess of 60%

85:36 making it extraordinarily profitable I fix it says replacing the Apple watch's

85:41 battery is easy replacing the processor

85:44 is hard something to do with resin and whatnot replacing the screen is

85:48 apparently fairly easy and they gave it a repairability score of 5 out of 10 not

85:54 too bad not too bad for a watch y not as good as the iPhone 6 but pretty darn

85:58 good considering the compactness of the device with that said I don't know if

86:02 they've taken apart the Edition Edition for example though um Sony has announced

86:07 the the Edition Edition was just gold and no other

86:10 changes yeah I think you're right okay yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not sure if

86:14 they would have made any if that would change anything about the construction

86:17 though right uh I mean different metals can make a difference yeah Sony

86:21 announces the Xperia Z4 their Flagship for 5 basically they changed not a whole

86:27 heck of a lot um Snapdragon 810 32 gig storage

86:33 every single phone is the same micro SD 3 gigs of RAM 29 30 mAh battery 20.7

86:39 megapixel re camera and it is dust and

86:47 waterproof seriously every single phone is the same all of the phone

86:51 announcements today were 810s except for one and it was low-end

86:56 one anyways oh well is that it are we

86:59 good uh AMD revealed that Windows 10 will launch in Late

87:03 July I've actually I was kind of trying to wait till Windows 10 to move

87:08 everyone's workstations um and sort of re reify everything around here but I

87:14 actually yeah we picked up a couple of uh Windows 8 licenses today actually for

87:19 a couple of the new servers yes I know it's not a server OS I don't care it

87:24 doesn't actually matter for most of the things we're doing if we decide to

87:28 virtualize the 36 core machine and we have which we probably will which we I

87:33 don't want to say probably I will say we may do um it depends it depends if I

87:39 know but it's not going to be able to yeah if media encoder handles it okay

87:43 then we'll just have it be a single machine I agree I just seriously doubt

87:46 that it will if it doesn't then what we may end up actually doing that would

87:50 this might actually be kind of smart if we did eight virtual machines each with

87:54 32 gigs of RAM so we'd have to double the RAM and then we gave every editor

87:58 their own render box and it was all running off of the

88:02 one box that has benefits and downsides

88:05 conversation to have anyway cuz you wouldn't be able to just like pound out

88:09 videos yeah well it would still be really quick but not as fast yeah um but

88:15 but they wouldn't use each other's resources and you could have parallelized rendering and all this kind

88:19 of stuff AMD reveals Windows 10 will launch in Late July so uh I I couldn't

88:24 hold out that long so I'm I'm going 8.1 on some of that stuff I'll figure out if

88:28 like I'd feel pretty sketch about upgrading an OS on a server so so

88:33 there's that um yeah I don't know man what's your

88:38 what's your gut feeling on that one uh honestly usually I'm like nope but then

88:43 looking at how amazingly well my upgrade

88:47 from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and then

88:50 revert back from Windows 10 to Windows 7 went I am actually kind of down okay did

88:56 I really talk to you about that yeah you did yeah that was amazing like that was

89:01 the best part of the whole experience was how well it went up and back down again apparently non-paying steam users

89:07 can still accept friend requests they may not send them out so they okay

89:11 that's not that big of a deal so they can have a friends list but they just have to have someone else send group

89:16 messages so they could message the people on their friends with it I'm cool

89:19 with it then I have no problem that was the only thing I didn't like so yeah true all right well I think

89:26 that's pretty much it for the show today thank you all very much for tuning in

89:32 like it if you liked it dislike if you

89:35 didn't like it as much yeah if you as you could have Poss it less and I think

89:39 that's pretty much it thanks for watching guys and we will see you again

89:43 next week same bat Time same bat Channel

89:46 please work yay hey it worked

90:06 yay wo

90:18 slend show's over we can make out now