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The WAN Show - #Bendgate, Maxwell GM200 Rumours - September 26, 2014

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2015-05-07 · 18,887 words · ~94 min read

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0:00 well that was fun I think we're actually live for real this time and uh you know

0:05 third time's a charm right so let's go

0:08 through our topics extremely quickly we're going to do the million subscriber

0:12 giveaway this week on The W show live here in front of all of you we're going

0:16 to talk about Apple's bendgate Fiasco with the iPhone 6 plus he's lost his

0:21 topic introduction privileges I've covered this before but for those of you

0:24 who are freshly watching this and didn't watch the first two fall starts of the

0:27 show I got to make sure I throw that in there Paul and Kyle have both left

0:33 Newegg and we're going to have them on the show to talk a little bit about

0:36 what's going on maybe we'll do some Twitter blitzing and Intel spent a

0:40 metric bucket ton of money on their new

0:44 10 nanometer process manufacturing

0:47 facility in Israel or will rather it's

0:50 not like done yet we can't have 10 nanometer processors yet but soon we

0:57 hope see if this works

1:01 yeah I don't hear any sound

1:08 whatever I just died in a

1:12 SW wait for it wait for it wait for it wait for

1:17 it and you think that's

1:22 funny okay so anyway uh Squarespace is one of our sponsors for the show today

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1:36 of the show today learn expand your mind make your brain more smarter linda.com

1:41 and that is exactly how they asked me to say that here's a hint it's not so we've

1:49 got a lot of great topics for this week can I help you nope

1:54 okay a lot of great topics for this week there's a rumor that is on wccf Tech

2:00 although don't freak out it's actually originally posted by PC tuning that

2:05 NVIDIA's Maxwell gm200 GPU could be

2:08 coming as soon as Q4 of this year so

2:13 it's rumored to have a die size of 551 mm squar making it the big core in the

2:18 Maxwell family with over 2500 Cuda core

2:22 so anywhere from 2560 to 2816 and

2:27 Okay so we decided to troll you a little

2:31 bit if you notice your shirt is slightly

2:34 different than my shirt my shirt's better my shirt has three people and so

2:39 do all of theirs hello so there's a whole bunch of shirts that have three

2:43 people and if you pay a lot of attention

2:46 who design logo on the back and if you

2:50 pay a lot of attention to what's on the shirt there's fractal Josh in the middle

2:54 cuz he's super tall and he's bro like bro fisting me and then throwing a pie

2:59 in your face yeah that's a pretty lame

3:05 shirt well I told him I wouldn't tell

3:09 you but Brandon might have leaked the SEC you're so lame it was a complete

3:17 accident how did you do that I unzipped my hoodie and then he saw it I was like

3:21 he oh well actually initially he's like oh nice shirt and then and then I turned

3:25 around I'm thinking that he didn't realize you a tape over mine so I have I

3:29 have prepared in advance my

3:35 rebuttal which is that you are fired you are no longer allowed to be on

3:41 my like ARM and legs are still there no don't worry I'm going to deal with

3:44 it God Brandon you're horrible I'm sorry

3:48 it was an accident you could have at least told me well I told him I wouldn't tell you

3:53 guys but then I did but then you wow I

3:57 want I want that smash back

4:00 oh get wrecked Josh says if people want

4:03 these shirts blow up his Twitter handle I don't know if you guys heard that but

4:07 apparently if people want the shirt self bro fist we only need one bro that's

4:13 just depressing no we only need one bro from kind sad I feel bad for you feel

4:19 bad for you you just lost your job yeah

4:22 get wrecked you still here

4:27 yes anyways so so I guess we should talk about the graphics card or whatever yeah

4:32 so back to that graphics card that we've talked about sort of one and a half

4:36 times already um this rumor actually

4:40 kind of makes sense so it's they're saying it's going to have a 384-bit

4:43 memory bus approximately 50% boost in performance over the GTX Titan black and

4:48 that it'll have double the performance per watt of the GK 110 which powered the

4:52 780 780 Ti Titan and Titan black so this

4:56 all actually makes a great deal of sense and is in line with NVIDIA's usual

5:00 strategy of one big core a mediumsized core which we can tell just by looking

5:05 at GM 204 that's what that is that's

5:08 that's not the top top tier card and uh

5:11 or at least the eventual top tier Maxwell card and then the the trickle

5:14 down keeps on going from there so um I

5:17 don't know I the one thing that we're

5:21 both not entirely sure about is the Q4 2014 launch date or or they're saying

5:26 should be within 2 months that sounds a little bit extreme maybe yeah and I mean

5:30 if that happens it'll be a compute card like a Tesla or a um or maybe even a

5:36 Quadro maybe not a consumer grade card

5:39 um although I mean who knows maybe I Maybe I'm Wrong maybe it'll be Titan 2

5:43 or something like that yeah could be possible all right moving on to our next

5:47 also NVIDIA related news Kingpin oh sorry that first one was originally

5:52 posted on the Forum by big stuns thank

5:55 you for that I don't know if it's stuns or like stro

6:00 no one's really sure that's the thing about online handles yeah is like are

6:03 capitals emphasis or how can you ever

6:07 really get a handle on something that's just Digital

6:12 Data well could grabbing a hard drive be

6:15 getting a handle on Digital Data or an

6:20 SSD because you're technically holding

6:24 it I think this might be the longest silence we've ever had on the W show I

6:29 basically talk constantly don't I didn't we have it no cuz I think we had like a

6:33 a one minute silence for something did we I think there was yeah whatever it

6:38 was it was probably something inappropriate and not something that actually deserved one minute silence

6:42 100% I don't I think so I don't remember what it was but it like didn't make a

6:45 ton of sense but we had a we had a minute silence for you seems like the

6:48 kind of thing I would do um all right so Mech 777 posted on the Forum that quote

6:54 unquote Maxwell is an overclocking monster Kingpin and Tin have cracked 2

6:59 GHz plus this was on L2 yeah I mean to be

7:03 clear you won't be cracking 2 gz plus unless you cool with liquid nitrogen but

7:09 uh got any more details while I they're running their core at 2103 MHz and their

7:13 memory at 1753 so all of that is just generally

7:17 insane um again though ln2 liquid

7:21 nitrogen they ran fire they got a fire strike score of

7:25 1940 and they got a fire strike 19,40 yeah my bad and they got a fire

7:30 strike extreme score of 9191 absolutely

7:35 ridiculous apparently the overclock was attributed to low power consumption yeah

7:40 low power consumption I mean also any of the other optimizations that NVIDIA's

7:43 made in Maxwell there's a lot of stuff that's still under the hood with Maxwell

7:47 that I think they're either waiting for the bigger core to reveal I mean that's

7:52 what that's what they do they tend to kind of pace the releases of their news

7:56 um speaking of that's why competition's good because if there isn't a ton of

8:01 competition that pace can go at whatever speed they want and if they're like well

8:05 if we develop slower then we don't have to spend as much on R&D and they just

8:09 slow the pace down well I don't think they're doing that because me neither

8:12 I'm saying just in general that's why competition's good I think it's just the

8:16 way that the way that the um the way that the R&D is being directed these

8:20 days where they still have to continue to develop and stay competitive in um

8:26 HPC for example so they're they still want to pump better GPU cores as fast as

8:31 possible we just might end up with ones that are more compute optimized and this

8:35 has been happening over the last few years that also happened to be fantastic

8:39 for gaming as well yeah okay now that's

8:42 a lot of good NVIDIA news but I have some very unfortunate NVIDIA news as

8:47 well this is something that's not actually on the dock and I I noticed and

8:51 I had someone assure me that it wasn't a big deal but I was pretty sure it was a

8:54 big deal I noticed at their editor's day that the PCS were running with Shield

8:59 controllers plugged into them I was like oh yeah I thought that wasn't PC

9:03 compatible at least not yet and so it has been confirmed by NVIDIA that it

9:07 wasn't and the version of GeForce experience and the latest driver that

9:12 came out with GTX 780 980 rather now

9:15 supports Shield as a controller on your PC which is or Shield controller not

9:21 Shield scary when someone says that there's bad news and then proceeds to

9:24 only give you good news oh yeah the bad news is coming so the unfortunate thing

9:29 and this is only moderately bad news is that it doesn't work wirelessly on your

9:34 computer and that makes sense cuz it's Wi-Fi direct and to my knowledge nothing

9:38 Wi-Fi Direct connects directly to your computer yet not as far as I know the

9:42 even the much worse news is uh where is

9:45 it compatibility uh okay Android devices

9:50 Etc okay it only works on their own Android devices which I kind of get

9:54 again Wi-Fi Direct whatever games

9:57 controllers can I use the shield wireless controller with a PC yes the

10:02 shield wireless controller is compatible as a wired controller with Windows 7 or

10:07 Windows 8 running GeForce

10:12 experience wow so just for just for

10:17 Giggles I tried to install GeForce experience on a computer that wasn't

10:21 running a GeForce graphics card it goes no supported hardware and boots you out

10:25 so the only way to install the driver for NVIDIA's like game controller is to

10:30 have an NVIDIA graphics card in your system this is extremely offensive to me

10:34 and I think if you install um just judging from over uh graphics card

10:39 overclocking and testing if you install GeForce experience with an NVIDIA card

10:42 plugged in and then swap it just won't run that's right so this is this is

10:47 incredibly disappointing to me I don't understand why NVIDIA wouldn't want

10:51 anyone to enjoy the experience of using

10:54 their controller I don't to I reached out to them for comment two days ago I

10:58 gave them 2 days to reply to my message about this and I was like what's going

11:04 on yeah I was going to say they might have just overlooked it they might have just bundled it into the GeForce

11:07 experience driver so we will update you guys next week on wo if we hear back

11:12 anything else or I'll try to I'll try to tweet it out when I hear back about it but for now you can't just install a

11:18 driver and to my knowledge there's nothing about the controller that would make it not work like maybe the touchpad

11:23 might not work or something if uh if you didn't have GeForce experience it should

11:27 just work as a standard controller would gForce experience affect the touchpad

11:30 well I I don't know like it might be some kind of emulated Mouse something

11:34 like but then that should be able to just be in a driver you would think that

11:38 but I can see why that might take longer to implement for example cuz the rest of

11:42 the way the controller works is exactly like a standard Xbox controller yeah I

11:46 just don't see what gForce experience does that would have anything to affect

11:49 the touchpad so it would be implenting the driver through GeForce experience or

11:52 implementing the driver through stand alone or or not because they do some

11:56 funny stuff with things like Mouse control over shield and stuff like that

12:00 like it depends how it was implemented so I don't know I'm just saying I don't

12:05 know I'm not saying that definitely it wouldn't work whatever the point is that

12:09 it should at least work as a controller that's it and the fact that

12:14 they're not allowing it to do that is just super crappy I mean think about

12:19 think imagine this for a second let's say uh someone who wants to use oh I

12:23 don't know steam in home streaming on an Ultrabook and happens to have a G4

12:29 powered gaming machine elsewhere in their house and thinks oh great I'll

12:33 just use my controller I'll plug it into my to my notebook and then I'll stream

12:36 to myself from my freaking GeForce PC

12:39 that will not work and that is a huge oversight from NVIDIA I'm extremely

12:43 upset about it I just think this is locking things away for the sake of

12:47 locking them away as opposed to for the sake of maintaining the end user's

12:52 experience which is what I do believe they do do a lot of the time

12:57 unfortunately this is is evidence that not everything that they do is

13:01 necessarily for the sake of making sure the user has a good experience because

13:06 this is not a good experience and there's no reason for it again they

13:10 could have possibly just there could possibly be a reason we will update you

13:13 if there's a reason I haven't heard back yet I more thought of it as an

13:17 oversight but we will see so there you

13:22 go okay uh we said we would pull them in at around five did we all right so let's

13:27 bring in our guests shall we we have Paul formerly of New Egg TV and

13:32 Kyle formerly of New Egg TV now of

13:36 Paul's Hardware and awesome sauce news

13:39 boy are they ever ugly hey I think they're extremely that's awesome sauce

13:44 Network for you sir so what you do more

13:47 than news now is that your thing yes exactly it's a bit more all-encompassing

13:51 than uh than the news tagline all encompassing you say what do you

13:55 Encompass by the way okay so for those of you who aren't familiar with these

13:58 Joker we've got Kyle right here and Paul right

14:02 here and they will be living between us I swear

14:08 I'll I don't know why I signed up this really and they'll be completely

14:12 replacing Luke who did you notice the shirts uh we joined

14:17 in I actually been wearing this all day I didn't even know that anything was

14:21 going on with your team trolling you this is just pure coincidence so it must

14:25 be it must be uh be and then he got here right as you guys were feeling the the

14:30 that you all had the shirts on and I was like oh I've got one too this is this is

14:33 how Paul answered the door five minutes ago and I rolled to his house he opens the door he like he looks me he's like I

14:37 have to change my clothes what's happening over

14:41 there that's very very important thank you guys for having us out yes thank you

14:45 thank you very much fantastic oh apparently you guys are pretty loud hold

14:49 on a second I'm going to turn you all down a little bit maybe I'll just turn you down all the way you guys are so

14:53 influential he just said y'all all right uh let's uh doesn't dislike you guys

14:57 that much let's let's hear from people let's see if that uh see if that sounds

15:01 okay uh you guys are also peeking a little bit so I'm not sure if that's a

15:05 microphone setting or whatever else but hopefully we're all good apparently the

15:09 stream died so I don't know what's up with that it doesn't look like it's dead

15:13 on our side so we're going to we're going to continue sort of along here

15:17 sound ugly for a second what if you push the mic a little further away yeah that

15:21 could help too yeah we dropped a few frames but it looks like we are we are

15:24 definitely back here so all right what the heck is going on over

15:30 there oh you know this a little of that

15:35 uh hash Newegg

15:38 gate so yeah I guess um if you guys

15:41 aren't familiar with like New Egg TV uh

15:45 that's what Kyle and I have been doing for for quite a few years now uh kind of

15:48 regular presenters on on the new egg tv YouTube channel um Kyle does a little

15:53 bit more behind the scenes than I do but uh kind of similar to what lonus you

15:57 used to do with uh with NC right and we

16:01 have just recently um both sort of independently and then we both kind of

16:05 found out that we were both kind of on the same page uh made made the decision

16:09 that we were GNA go our separate ways and leave New Egg um we still have a a a

16:15 setup there so we are still we're not going to be gone completely we're still

16:18 going to be participating a little bit over there Kyle was just over there

16:22 today and he did the alt tab live show uh that is also on Twitch great that was

16:28 good times yes yes it's um so you guys

16:31 are going independent do you feel a little bit like um oh I don't know

16:36 copycats copycats I was I was gonna say

16:40 uh was it Logan didn't Lan just gonna say because I've seen a lot of people

16:45 say hey everyone's they've been say we're pulling like a Jerry like like

16:49 because Jerry was the most recent person to leave his job and to some degree uh

16:55 but I I I gota I gotta go back to Logan I feel like Logan kind of set the bar

17:00 for for all of us on that one yeah exactly we're all at the end of the day

17:03 we're all copying someone it might as well be Logan right exactly but um it's

17:08 it's just kind of interesting how this this huge transition for both Paul and I

17:11 kind of started at the same time and uh I think it was kind of for the best uh

17:16 that it happened at the same time as opposed to spreading it out you know

17:19 like having one big announcement at the company and then a month later somebody

17:23 else is leaving um so we kind of just talked about it I was like Hey so Paul

17:27 I'm planning this and he's like really I'm I'm kind of planning this we're like oh wow it's kind of funny why don't we

17:31 do it together or whatever so kind of worked out that way and um you know but

17:36 but still still much love to Newegg they've they've helped me a lot that

17:39 that was literally my first job straight out of college they're the only people

17:42 who would take me um shame on them them

17:46 oh but we had a few other

17:50 uh choices um yes but

17:53 they it didn't work

17:56 out that was so ominous

17:59 looks off into the distance I wasn't sure choices but discretion isn't really

18:03 Paul specialty out but yeah at the end of the

18:06 day uh going going independent is I think a good decision for both of us um

18:11 I I know I'm really excited uh this last week I've just been you know waking up

18:15 at at 9: as opposed to 7 which is always awesome working hard and the ability

18:20 straight up the ability because before I would work 40 hours a week at new EG I

18:24 would come home around 5:30 6: p.m. have dinner take a shower by the time I'm

18:28 ready to actually start a video for my personal channel it's like 9:00 and I'm

18:32 up till 3:00 a.m. and got to wake up at 7:30 the next morning it's just it it's

18:36 a it's a a mind worldl so being able to

18:39 wake up write a script and conceptualize a video and shoot and edit that video

18:43 and post it all on the same day is amazing H it's it's probably it's a

18:49 great feeling to have which I'm sure you guys are in that sort of same workflow

18:53 um for your channel So speaking of you

18:56 know waking up and conceptualizing a video and then uh you know producing it

19:01 and all that stuff have you guys actually have you guys made much content

19:06 since you've gone independent and how is this going to affect the the type of

19:09 content that you're creating uh Kyle has I I have not yet I

19:15 so I was trying to get a to finish off a

19:18 video last night and I didn't so uh that's still I'm gonna post there be a

19:23 new video on my channel this evening I promise 95% of the way how are you guys

19:29 planning to support yourselves I mean I think that you don't have to explain to

19:32 me that um you know Google AdSense is

19:36 not necessarily the the White Knight and savior that uh that people who watch but

19:41 don't necessarily create the content might believe it is what's that is very true uh we're

19:47 nowhere near neither of us are anywhere near being able to support ourselves on

19:50 just the AdSense Revenue um I think part

19:53 of as you probably know part of the nature of kind of the content that we do

19:57 since we cover technology we cover products that are brought to Market and

20:02 sold to people and that companies make profit from uh so as a result of that we

20:06 have the possibility to um do things like pre-roll type ads those things that

20:11 you've done um I mean obviously there's there's you got to kind of especially

20:16 when it's for your own Channel versus working for a separate company you got

20:19 to kind of take a step back and think okay if I'm going to do something like

20:23 this how am I going to do it how am I going to make it as non-intrusive for

20:26 anyone who's watching my channel as possible also give give companies a chance to you know promote their

20:31 products if they want to um so I I think uh I might be doing some basic simple

20:36 you know like five five to 10 second pre-roll ads uh for in in the near

20:40 future um and then uh I might I might

20:44 actually be doing some some writing uh for for some websites that uh do do

20:49 content of of the technical nature I

20:54 guess more information I know none of this stuff is is set in stone yet so I

20:58 don't want to say like yes I'm going to be doing this until I I know for sure's

21:02 like one big strip teas wanting more at the end that's it

21:06 our seduction but you guys are also still going to be doing some stuff with

21:09 new egg correct yes yeah uh So the plan

21:12 right now is that we're each going to go in one day a week and uh help out with

21:17 whatever the regular content is and we might be doing some additional videos

21:20 here and there as well uh so the the Yol show which is kind of tech news and US

21:25 messing around uh which is kind of fun the alt tab live show

21:29 are the main ones right now and then um you know the obviously the team over

21:33 there is going through some trans transition right now at the same time so

21:37 uh we need to sort of also wait and see and say okay we've taken a step back

21:41 from from any kind of leadership role that we might have played before so what

21:45 do they want to do next and how can we play a part in that um so yeah that's

21:49 and that's the main thing I think that we wanted to communicate to people while

21:52 this is a pretty huge change for both of us personally and possibly I guess also

21:57 a decent change for the the new egg Channel as well this was not

22:01 done out of animosity towards new egg or

22:04 anything anything to that effect we we still I'm still going to be ordering

22:07 stuff there all the time because I can drive right over to will call and uh and

22:12 yeah so there's no like major problems or anything like that it was just uh

22:17 something both of us kind of kind of came to realize I think Kyle had some some other personal family reasons and

22:21 then for me I mean you if you work for somewhere for an extended period of time

22:26 as great as it might be at some point you just need to decide okay I need to I

22:30 need to stretch myself and and reach out and try to do something uh that's a

22:34 little bit more different or that allows me to uh I don't know like Kyle was

22:38 saying earlier the creativity Fly Fly Away Little Bird I was stretching myself

22:43 and putting my ARM around you and then you just abandoned me gosh is that tape

22:48 that you use to cover that that's a a giant massive waste of electrical tape

22:52 you got to let that bad boy shine actually much more expensive Gaff tape

22:57 oh God that's a sin so I hate to do this to you guys but

23:00 skype's using up about 20% of our CPU right now and our stream is lagging to

23:05 crap because we're at 100% CPU usage so I'm actually webcam I'm gonna have to

23:10 say thank you guys so much for coming on but it's kind of not it's not working

23:15 for us unfortunately right now this relationship isn't going to be a for

23:18 effort so we'll we'll we'll come on hopefully in a future episode or

23:22 something like that we're going to upgrade our CPU and we'll have you guys

23:25 on again to just kind of be regular guests I think it's great that you came

23:28 on for the announcement but I think I have to I have to let you go so thank

23:33 you guys again I'm very sorry nothing personal except that I hate you no

23:37 worries of course we love you guys's trying to to direct people to his Amazon

23:42 link instead of yours no actually wow

23:45 not watch my last video go to my channel and watch it I specifically say if you

23:50 don't already have Linus's bookmark don't and now he's like desperately

23:56 trying to plead for views he wants me to go watch his video don't watch my vide

24:00 please watch my videos I need that one more incremental count all right we'll

24:04 see you guys later see hopefully that fixes it yeah I

24:09 certainly hope it does so let's go ahead and move that screen region see what

24:13 happens to our CPU usage now computer is not stoked yeah no super unhappy okay so

24:19 look at that we are weighed down and hopefully we are actually encoding

24:24 frames instead of dropping them now welcome back to the show actually

24:29 functioning like I said guys there wasn't really anything that I could do

24:34 about it um we had about Skype was claiming 20% CPU load it looks like it

24:39 was actually closer to around 35% so we

24:42 went from 60% CPU to no CPU left at all

24:49 and we were pinned at 100% that was brutal so I'm really sorry about that

24:53 you guys we will bring Paul and Kyle back on sometime in the near future

24:57 hopefully in the next few weeks here and we will we will dive into some topics

25:01 together and have that tech chat that I know you guys want to hear and I'm

25:04 really sorry about that but we got to just move forward with the show we can't

25:07 have it running like that forever looks like we're not dropping frames anymore

25:10 so I think we're good I think we're good I think that fixed it all right so

25:14 moving on to bendgate this was originally posted on the lonus tech tips

25:18 Forum by Lars reviews and there's actually a fairly excellent thread if

25:22 you're not already a member of Linus tips.com then you should probably go

25:26 there because if we don't have enough members he'll lose his job again oh my

25:31 wow yeah yeah that's right we don't have enough members I think we have enough

25:34 members okay I have the one most important

25:39 member that's not on the Forum though no that's if it was I think I'd probably

25:43 have to remove it but I wouldn't delete that thread I would just hide it yeah

25:48 excellent excellent thread on the Forum about it but basically um there's a some

25:53 videos allegedly breaking phones in half

25:57 made by one of our one of our good friends Lou over at unbox therapy where

26:03 because break it in half well when

26:06 something is okay not at the halfway point I

26:10 guess yes so the point is there were some reports of people having iPhone 6

26:15 pluses bending from carrying them in their front pockets uh these kind of

26:21 started to circulate on the internet and Lou from unbox therapy made a video

26:25 demonstrating how easily the phone could be significantly bent and then how the

26:31 screen would crack and it would basically become useless once you bent

26:35 it back to its original flat form this

26:38 has been the most viral video I think on

26:42 any Tech YouTuber's Channel ever and um

26:46 Lou posted a posted a screenshot from his YouTube creators app of it at 10

26:51 million views I think the morning after he originally posted it this thing went

26:56 super crazy viral but I think it's like 30 million now or

27:00 something just for that one video and he's released three on the topic which

27:03 are all above a million views way more and he's been doing B tests of other

27:07 things other people are jumping on the the benest wagon I think I saw NC post

27:12 on their Facebook today a motherboard bent over I recognized the board too

27:16 it's an x58 board that was a sample that we got like ages ago when I when I used

27:23 to work there oh man uh people are

27:26 saying banded 980 get more views I really don't think that would happen I

27:29 think people would just call us idiots yeah and and that would be really hard to do yeah we'd have to put it in a vice

27:34 and stuff i' just rather not B the 980

27:38 I'd rather people someone at some point game on that 980 because that's I don't

27:43 believe in Breaking Hardware on purpose I do think particularly the original

27:48 Bend demonstration video was very important Justified just to make people

27:52 aware of the issue but along those lines

27:56 apple is claiming now that it is n actually an issue so they're saying that

28:01 out of all the you know hype surrounding Bend gate only nine users have actually

28:08 come forward to Apple about having

28:11 broken their or bent their phone through regular use and they are saying that any

28:15 of the phones that were able to be bent so easily in this manner

28:21 um just must be suffering from some kind of materials defect and it's not a

28:26 problem with the design of the phone uh there's a lot of other stuff kind of

28:29 floating around so this is just kind of a funny Apple uh threw up a job posting

28:34 for a Q&A sort of position that one of

28:39 the things listed in the job description was was bending testing was it Ashley

28:43 yeah but I but again this think it was a joke this is this is stuff that that

28:49 could have just been a regular job posting anyway I don't think it

28:52 necessarily has anything to do with bendgate I think really the proof will

28:56 be in the pudding are we going to see more people coming forward with bent

29:00 phones um one thing that I've seen Apple Fanboys kind of running around saying is

29:05 oh well it's aluminum so you know yeah

29:09 it was going to bend anyway you know what the one I made is aluminum and um I

29:15 I can't I can't bend it I can turn it

29:18 on like change the volume but I can't bend the phone which it did perfectly

29:23 fine while he was trying to bend it for that matter the 5S has an aluminum back

29:27 it's by Apple also doesn't B so um I

29:31 think I think that's pretty much it there's honestly not that much to say

29:36 it's a massively overe exhausted topic yep I don't want to even give it that

29:41 much more attention one new other thing Apple says that the new phones feature

29:45 steel and titanium inserts to reinforce stress locations and they use the

29:49 strongest glass in the industry so okay

29:53 they didn't use Sapphire which we all thought they were going to use yeah that

29:57 was interesting that could have been interesting because I wonder if that would have helped

30:01 resist bending I kind of I mean Marcus's

30:04 video where he has the sapphire crystal glass um oh that's a good point he he

30:08 kind of in his first video in particular I think he unfortunately hadn't seen

30:14 Corning Gorilla Glass 3 off of a phone before so he was kind of marveling at

30:18 how clear it was and how it flexed and all that but Gorilla Glass 3 behaves in

30:21 pretty much exactly the same man so aside from the scratch resistance I

30:25 don't think yeah which wouldn't have actually helped rigidity in any way so

30:29 yeah never mind moot point so okay I

30:33 hadn't heard anything about this what's going on with the cooler the EVGA ACX

30:38 970 cooler ah yes originally posted on the Forum by devil Z thank you Sean um X

30:46 EVGA this is this is this is Sean's headline here EVGA could lose out on

30:50 quite a bit of money due to trying to cut costs on their GTX 970 980 cards and

30:56 the the original article is from E Technics and it's that EVGA may have

31:01 used a cooler from a bigger card to save on manufacturing cost so there's a

31:07 picture of a cooler taken off an EVGA uh

31:10 900 series card here and I'm going to go ahead I'm going to load that page

31:15 eventually if I can but in the meantime why don't we just switch to the No guest

31:19 view so you guys don't have to wait for it but basically what happened was the

31:23 bottom sorry it started working which did there oh no no no it didn't

31:28 what this page is still not loading yeah I just switched back to a page that

31:31 works like lusch tips.com oops hey

31:35 that's right get wrecked um so basically I'll just have to help you guys

31:38 visualize this there's three heat pipes there we go you need help with your

31:42 demonstration should I be the heat pipes uh yeah you can be the heat pipes okay

31:46 so there's three heat pipes and then the you can tell from the thermal paste

31:50 pattern that the GPU core itself is actually only contacting two of them and

31:56 one of them is not making contact with the GPU core now this has led to some

32:01 speculation that evga's direct touch

32:04 cooler will not work very well and could perform significantly worse than if all

32:08 three heat pipes were making contact there is some truth to this direct heat

32:13 pipe touch technology does make a difference and having them all touching

32:17 the core would probably help but I think people are overestimating how much of a

32:23 difference that's going to make remember the problem with a copper base plate on

32:29 anything let's say a heat sink or yeah let's say a heat sink because that would

32:33 be fairly related yeah so the problem with having a copper base on a heat on a

32:38 heat sink the reason that we use heat pipes and Vapor Chambers instead of just

32:42 using a flat slab of copper is that copper can't conduct heat away quickly

32:48 enough in order to provide the best possible cooling once you build a heat

32:51 sink that's large enough over short distances this is not an issue so with

32:58 the dye right next to it right there and those heat pipes being the hottest part

33:03 of that cooler and that next Heat pipe being right next to those other heat

33:07 pipes that are the hottest part of the cooler it's going to be working it's

33:11 going to be doing something might not be as effective but we're talking I'd be

33:15 surprised if the difference is more than a degree or two and in the grand scheme

33:20 of things that's not going to be a huge deal these car are already running

33:24 pretty cool they are already running pretty cool that said you know is two de

33:29 the difference between one boost State versus another boost State on cards that

33:33 overclock themselves maybe um but I'd also suspect

33:38 that having another person sitting in the room watching you game would make as

33:42 much of a difference because just the heat from their body and we're already

33:45 getting like low temps of around 70 on average as far as I've been able to tell

33:49 with our cards yeah with non- reference cards

33:52 yeah so there you go that's pretty much

33:56 I guess all I really have to say about that I don't think it's as big of a deal

33:59 as other people are EVGA did respond they said that though and I hadn't

34:03 actually seen their response yet this has been added to the doc since last time I looked at it the way the gtx970

34:09 ACX heat sink was designed is based on the gtx970 wattage plus an additional

34:15 40% cooling head room on top of it so they're saying about a total of 200

34:20 Watts uh also we would like to mention that the cooler passed NVIDIA's green

34:24 light specifications due to the small

34:27 contact area of that GPU because it has a small die size we intended for the GPU

34:33 to contact two major heat pipes with direct touch to make to get the best

34:38 heat dissipation out of it without any other material in between them um blah

34:42 blah blah etc etc etc regarding fan noise this is not a fan noise issue is

34:47 more oh okay regarding fan noise we understood that some had expressed concerns over the fan noise of evg

34:51 gtx970 cards this is not a fan noise issue but more of an aggressive fan

34:55 curve set by the default BIOS regardless we have heard your concerns we are going

34:59 to provide a BIOS update that keeps the cards quieter and ramps up less

35:04 aggressively with that said you can control GPU fan speeds and software so

35:08 if you don't want to wait for the BIOS update then I would say fairly simple to

35:11 do go for it especially with their I

35:14 can't remember name right now youing have you forgotten you're dead to me

35:18 what's the name of their software again Precision Precision Precision X has

35:22 pretty good fan fan curve stuff in it so if you want to change it use their own

35:25 software not too hard The Verge wrote a pretty hilarious I

35:30 guess I made it about two-thirds of the way through and then I got kind of bored but it was pretty funny while I be that

35:35 hilarious no it was pretty funny they wrote a pretty hilarious piece on the

35:39 fact that the next or well the okay apparently uh the fact that the next

35:44 Nexus tablet will be made by HTC and the

35:48 verg article was full of you know lovers quarrels and all this kind of stuff the

35:52 the main characters are of course Google HTC Tam Tung like a triangle no yeah

35:58 just just kind of the the industry the Android ecosystem all all the different

36:02 players it was pretty funny but basically that's it this was posted by

36:05 eth nood on the Forum and the original Source here is rutters.com and

36:10 apparently Google has selected HTC For an upcoming 9in Nexus tablet so it looks

36:17 like they're splitting they're using HTC for their tablet and I believe they're using uh Moto Motorola still for their

36:22 phone is that confirmed or are we speculating based on that looks like the

36:26 Moto xul right but it it it has like the circular

36:31 Flash and it has all the stuff which is very similar to the it does look very

36:35 similar again it's still speculation but it's it's I don't know it'll be

36:39 interesting using two different manufacturers so Google has been mulling

36:43 HTC is a potential partner for since last year HTC hasn't made a tablet since

36:49 2011 um so this was announced at Google IO in June it's expected Q3 2014 and it

36:56 will apparently be power by the Tegra K1 which is

37:00 extremely good news because something

37:03 that I noticed I don't know if other people noticed but a NCH had a great

37:07 article on the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus's performance and of all the

37:13 Android devices that were in the performance charts the one that really

37:19 hung with the iPhone 6 and the 6 Plus was the NVIDIA Shield tablet which is

37:24 based on the Tegra K1 with and that's

37:27 that's in terms of CPU in terms of GPU the K1 blew away everything yeah just

37:32 absolutely demolished everything else NVIDIA so I'm I'm excited about that the

37:37 problem with the K1 the big like I I

37:40 wonder if NVIDIA had hoped that K1 would be suitable for phone use but the

37:45 problem with the K1 is that The Thermals are just not really suitable for that

37:50 and they're more optimal for tablet use

37:53 at this time so at least we can have fast Android tablets as fast as the

37:56 fastest Apple device um just not smartphones yet I'm also not

38:01 surprised that the K1 is heavily focused on

38:04 GPU I am why NVIDIA yeah I mean they're

38:08 all a boat stop trolling you were so genuine with that I am I was like did I

38:14 miss something what did I do holy crap I

38:17 said something stupid no no you didn't say anything stupid you just wore

38:20 something stupid so that's why you're dead to me no dead to me speaking of

38:26 dead to me uh Watch Dogs is turning into a franchise they are not dead at

38:32 all oh that's a terrible segue I know I

38:35 could have said a lot of different things about I could I could have tied

38:38 dead to me into Watch Dogs and Ubisoft in a lot of different ways that's yeah

38:42 that's yeah let's say took the hard way rather than saying that you know I

38:47 missed an opportunity why don't we say I had restraint there there we go you know

38:50 what I'm down with that all right because usually we do the digging thing

38:54 at any rate uh this was originally posted by

38:57 D dlf on the Forum I couldn't tell if it was diff diff or dlf and the original

39:03 articles from computer and video games and Ubisoft Montreal's well we're just

39:08 staring at the dock right now Vice President of creative of creative yes

39:12 that's a thing is it maybe not uh anyway

39:16 uh has said that although the game has its flaws he feels it succeeds in

39:20 establishing a brand and promise for the

39:23 future that's an awkward way to do that

39:28 flaw I'll I'll let you talk now I'm I'm taking off the dead to me thing a yay so

39:33 so it's flawed but you know we believe in it it'll be okay hopefully we won't

39:38 completely screw it up next time and then you guys will hopefully like it or

39:41 we'll just say this and you'll buy it and then we'll just keep moving on anyways cuz we're ubis Stu they did make

39:45 a good point they brought up that Assassin's Creed 1 had a lot of

39:49 complaints about it and was hardly a perfect game that's cuz they gave it like no budget and cut it off early so

39:55 they didn't have time to develop missions for the rest of the game so they just reused missions from previous

39:58 parts of the game but the point was that Assassin's Creed 2 sold just fine in

40:03 spite of the complaints about Assassin's Creed 1

40:07 sold it was a great game I loved Assassin's Creed 2 it was really good

40:11 but yeah and there was the very valid complaints about Assassin's Creed 1

40:16 which I also liked because you you did like the first three missions and you

40:19 just basically repeated that for the entire rest of the game um so I don't

40:23 know if they do the same thing that would be fantastic cuz that means the

40:26 next Watch Dogs will be really good Assassin's Creed 2 was great but I don't

40:30 know because it did look like Watch Dogs got a much larger budget than Assassin's

40:34 Creed 1 oh yeah it did and that was the main problem with Assassin's Creed 1 it

40:37 was it was the fact that they ran out of budget but I mean the way that the

40:41 statement was phrased I think is I think is is pretty good where basically he

40:46 says okay there are flaw flaws which is good you know we want to tackle those

40:50 flaws and surprise players uh we need to be careful not to change the things

40:55 people liked and address things that

40:58 they didn't like and hopefully you know

41:01 particularly from a PC Gamers perspective that's going to happen right

41:05 starting at the beginning of the development process when the PC gets

41:08 treated like a priority as opposed to not even an afterthought you can't even

41:11 call it an afterthought that's what's terrible about it is it was with

41:15 forethought and Malice allegedly that

41:18 they nerfed it um so hopefully we won't see that happen again and Watch Dogs 2

41:22 will be the only thing that scares me about this is that we've had Ubisoft

41:27 tote rah rah we're g to make it better in front of us before and then just

41:31 completely ignore it when the time for Action came to be I know so so this is

41:36 great I hope it happens but I'm not I wouldn't throw any beds things can

41:41 change though I mean I think I brought this up on W show before so I won't talk

41:45 about it for too long but talking to the direct X lead at Microsoft when he

41:50 showed up at the uh at the NVIDIA event he was like yeah we have a different

41:54 culture now you know like I'm encouraged to be out here talking to journalists

41:58 and and engaging with the community about the direction of direct 3D when

42:02 before it was it was very close n much

42:05 more cloistered yeah and so I I don't

42:09 know I I basically CU I I kind of grilled him a little bit actually some

42:12 things that I knew he wouldn't know but I just wanted to kind of someone who

42:17 might have some influence there let's just beat him up while he's down and I

42:20 kind of went man why didn't Halo 1 get

42:24 multiplayer Co-op and he was like legitimately don't know that and I'm

42:28 like man why do they keep recommitting to us and then doing this master chief

42:33 Edition not coming to PC what the hell is that so I basically just went man

42:37 does Microsoft even care and all he could really say was Microsoft is

42:42 changing and he he he spoke very earnestly about it he seems like a great

42:47 guy Mr nadell has been making a crazy amount of changes he's not a PR guy he's

42:51 a technical guy he's a programmer always cool so I don't expect him to give me a

42:56 PR response but he seemed genuinely convinced that Microsoft is on a great

43:00 track and cares about Gamers and the other thing he said is that his team has

43:05 always cared and has watching the very

43:09 few amount of DX like announcements and demos that you're able to watch where

43:13 those guys are up on stage allowed to talk they do seem like they care a lot

43:17 yeah and he was telling me like there's guys on his team amount of those you know $4,000 $5,000 gaming rigs at home

43:23 like these are PC gaming enthusiasts at

43:27 least some of them and he kind of went you know yeah we're we're optimistic you

43:32 know we we believe in the future so so who knows maybe Ubisoft who hasn't

43:37 gotten a new CEO or really changed at

43:45 all hopefully they do those things so

43:48 speaking of changes oh D

43:52 cair changed The Branding on their

43:55 gaming peripheral and we might have all collectively

43:59 freaked out a little bit too much probably but let's just let's just go

44:02 through the Saga here so uh here's this

44:05 video they made with like some soldiers this is I think just the outro for it

44:09 like have you watched the video no actually it's pretty over the top the production values are like pretty good

44:14 like I have no idea how much that cost um just looking at that animation yeah

44:20 so they released a new a new brand for their gaming products oh I'm not logged

44:25 in so that's not working winner everything is broken everything is

44:29 broken something something something something something everything is broken

44:35 all right so they um they redid their

44:38 Vengeance branding the old sort of yellow Vengeance logo that we would find

44:42 on older Corsair gaming products I used to have a keyboard in here but I took it

44:46 out of here for a b-roll or something so I don't have it at the moment um and

44:49 then they redid it so instead of having the Corsair sales and then Vengeance as

44:53 kind of a separate sub brand they created this um kind of two cross blade

44:58 thing that ends up looking kind of like a tribal tattoo that would belong on the

45:02 small of your back or like a cling on bat lith uh with a little heart in the

45:07 middle of it like it there isn't there aren't really many great ways to to look

45:12 at it I saw a crazy crab holding swords with a heart on his head yeah yeah

45:16 that's that's another that's another way I've had people suggest that it's kind

45:19 of like a crabber rang yeah so it's a batter ring but but it's a crab that's

45:25 funny there should be there should be crabman

45:30 um that would actually make a great one extremely strong ARM and one really not

45:36 strong one that would make a tremendous like Cartoon Network show it's like

45:39 crabman and he's just always like an ass to

45:43 everyone I'll save you but I won't like it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah anyway so

45:48 they they took away the sales they they took away Corsair Vengeance sub Brandon

45:52 now it's all unified under Corsair gaming they made a big habab this which

45:57 I actually wonder if ended up working against them they had press releases PR

46:02 statements they redid all their packaging they took new products like

46:06 the uh RGB series keyboards and packaged them with this new cor Corsair gaming

46:10 brand they took existing products like their 1500 headset and 1300 headset we

46:15 actually have a bunch of them in the hallway and they repackaged them under the new branding redid the industrial

46:19 design on the products like this was not a cheap Initiative for Corsair to

46:25 undergo this rebranding process and then the community freaked

46:31 out there was a change.org petition which I really feel like was a little

46:35 over the top I mean change.org most change.org petitions are a little bit

46:39 over the top okay fair enough um PC Master race the the subreddit was

46:44 explosive uh the threads online as Tech tips are many many many posts long

46:50 discussing this and I think

46:54 that basically all there really is to say about it is I don't really like the

46:58 logo either me neither I released a video about it last night I don't think it's great um but something that I

47:03 actually didn't realize until I was talking to someone at Corsair about the

47:06 video we made last night where it's kind of a troll video we show how to mod your

47:10 keyboard and take the logo off and put something else on I was talking to

47:13 someone from Corsair and I kind of went yeah realistically I think everyone's

47:16 going to forget because it only it takes

47:19 this conversation we're having now for me to remember how much I hated the

47:23 Vengeance logo when I first saw it and I still hate it I think it's horrible

47:27 I think that font I think the bright yellow was never good and that's

47:30 something people are forting as well they're upset about the yellow in the

47:33 gaming logo vengance was already yellow branding yeah that said they didn't put

47:38 Vengeance on the product it was mostly on the box yeah

47:43 that's true which helps a lot but I'm just saying I think that people will kind of forget about it eventually and

47:48 who knows maybe I mean Vengeance was only with us if few few years who knows

47:51 maybe they'll Rebrand it again at some point but I think that this was very

47:56 much an over reaction um I think corsera responded to it in the best way that

48:00 they possibly could with yellow Beard's post Yellow Beard's post so k70 RGB

48:06 keyboards with red switches Cherry MX red switches that already had the

48:10 original logo will continue to exist for some time so people who really want the

48:15 original logo on their keyboard can get it and then the other ones will have the

48:19 course their gaming logo so if you want blue or brown switches a K65 or a k95

48:24 the 10 keyless and the one with macro keys then you'll be you'll have to have

48:27 the new logo and honestly if you do really hate it the guide line has posted

48:32 is actually not even that bad just get a flat head screwdriver and take it off

48:35 like you can get rid of that glue residue pretty easily you can put like a cool Deco there or something yeah put a

48:40 cool Deco fill it up with Plasti Dip do something like it's it's not that hard

48:43 to fix yeah so I I'm actually I'm amazed

48:46 they got over 7,000 signatures on the keep the old logo

48:51 petition oh man yeah so what do we want

48:55 to do like interesting topic or like

48:58 let's go with interesting topic all right so we just got 14 nanometer so

49:04 Intel is is just now releasing products what is it core core M or whatever it is

49:10 yeah the the the mobile one yeah broad y yeah yeah so these like super super low

49:15 power we're talking Core i5 dual core

49:19 class processors with beefy dedicated graphics in like fanless tablets like

49:25 pretty cool stuff we just got those and now in the news Intel is planning to

49:30 spend another 6 billion this time on a

49:34 10 nanometer Fab every single time they

49:37 go down in manufacturing process everyone's like oh this is it they can't

49:41 go any further there's no way technology can advance we've hit the end boys this

49:45 is this is as far as we can go and then couple months later dead yeah yeah

49:49 couple months later new manufacturing plant billions of dollars have been

49:52 spent and they're going to make smaller ones it's like Okay cool so this was

49:56 posted by Jer on the jerich on the Forum

49:59 um you know it's funny along the lines of what you were just saying I remember

50:03 my my um my SSD fome campus tour y when

50:07 I got to visit Intel that one time and

50:10 um I remember walking into a room where they basically said don't take any

50:14 pictures or film anything in here and I kind of went why and it turned out that

50:19 the Whiteboard and like the drawings on it

50:22 were and I think it's late enough now yeah 3D 3D n is here 3D transistors are

50:28 here but that was like the plan for for 3D and know I was like really that's

50:35 cool it's like internal like drawings on a whiteboard I was like that is so cool

50:39 I'm geeking out right now I don't understand any of it but it's still

50:43 awesome but it's still freaking cool and I remember asking them questions in my

50:48 interviews you know we keep hearing about the end of Mor's law we keep

50:52 hearing about how flash isn't going to continue to get higher density or

50:55 whatever else and and I think if you look at sort of a a shortterm past sort

51:02 of if you take a short-term past chunk it might look that way I mean the

51:07 iPhone 6 if you look at devices if you

51:10 look at still comes in 16 gig if you look at Solid State Storage on its own

51:15 though it is getting massively larger it is um but looking at phones and devices

51:21 and stuff like that no but to to to go back to the kind of growth we were

51:25 seeing before I think we're have to wait a little bit because that's about to

51:28 happen again you we look at what they're capable of doing with ddr4 for example

51:33 with some of the new uh the new die stacking Technologies you look at what

51:37 Samsung is doing with their new 3D nand where they're taking instead of having

51:42 you know 20 nmet class nand that's spread out horizontally they're stacking

51:48 40 nanometer class n to get the same capacities and better reliability and

51:53 better speeds with about the same raw material so they take that technology

51:58 they shrink that down who capacities are not done yet every time that we feel

52:03 like we hit some sort of wall someone goes oh hey if we climb it in this

52:07 really weird way we can keep going that happens like every single time it'll

52:11 make no sense then someone will come up with an alternative it will make tons of

52:14 sense and we will keep on going and it's Intel almost every time it's funny cuz I

52:18 got called out on our fastest possible about process Technologies manufacturing

52:23 processes for like um favoring Intel or

52:27 like fanboying over Intel because I brought up uh basically I alluded to

52:31 their Tik Tok um their Tik Tok development process and I also I don't

52:37 know what's going on with my computer and I also brought up the core M as my

52:41 example of 14 nmet processor but I went

52:44 back and looked into it Intel has been first to every process node over like

52:50 the last 20 years and they hit a new one like every two

52:54 years yeah that's not a real point debate yeah it's it's just a thing

52:59 different like processors that different price skes and all that kind different

53:02 architectures different architectures optimize for gaming optimized for tablet

53:06 yeah you can definitely debate all that kind of stuff but manufacturing they

53:10 developed this thing at this date and then that's what happened there's I

53:13 don't know there's facts posted by red

53:17 round 2 on The Forum the original article from Anon we actually um alluded

53:22 to this just just a moment ago but the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus are Benchmark

53:29 monsters so there you go there's the iPhone 6 iPhone 6 plus the 5S Shield

53:37 tablet Windows Phone are we going to find an Android device that doesn't have

53:41 a tiger K1 in it here we go oh oh boy so

53:45 they are they are wrecking machines and they don't do that well in every single

53:49 Benchmark but they are at or near the top of the charts pretty much across the

53:54 board so yay the newest phone does the best things yeah I was going to say as

54:00 exciting as this might be and as great as it is that we're getting faster and

54:04 faster mobile devices I think that the

54:07 people who are disappointed in the iPhone 6 are the same people who were

54:12 disappointed in the Galaxy 5S but just

54:16 that happened to carry something with an Apple logo in their pocket versus

54:19 something with a Samsung logo in their pocket I think we're all getting

54:23 disenchanted with smartphones all at the same time

54:27 I am like hardcore that's that's a thing I

54:31 I think we've talked about how phones are going through the same thing PC's

54:35 did um but they're going through the same thing PCS did over like an

54:39 extremely long period of time and they're like surpassing where PCS are at

54:43 but then not getting that thing where PCS kind of dwindled for a little while

54:47 and now we're awesome again I don't think they're really getting that and I

54:50 don't know if they are going to no no the future for phones is definitely

54:54 going to be in interface design and not in Hardware at least over over the next

54:58 little while software usability HCI which is called uh human computer

55:02 interaction so just like how you use your phone uh like natural paper thing

55:07 that Android's trying to do all that kind of stuff is going to be a really big deal y wearable devices I'm really

55:12 disappointed in the Moto 360 now that the reviews are out um I I actually

55:17 walked into a Best Buy the morning of the launch kind of not really thinking

55:21 about it I'd been napping in the car that was driving me from the airport to

55:25 the NVIDIA event and I walked in I was like holy crap it's a Moto

55:28 360 interesting do you have any and the guy at the till said yes so I I just

55:33 about bought one right there just so I could review it if nothing else and now

55:37 I'm kind of glad I didn't because the thing that I was expecting it to

55:42 disappoint me with is exactly what it's disappointing everybody with battery

55:46 life yeah but it didn't need to it just

55:50 did what was the size of the processor 40 nanom yeah it was like ancient chip

55:55 what are you doing um I mean the the the issue though and

56:00 there there could be a hundred reasons why they would have gone with that

56:03 processor there's also 100 reasons not to there's 100 reasons not to but

56:07 there's there there's 100 reasons why they might have had to yeah but the the

56:11 cold hard truth is until we get

56:15 dramatically better batteries the only smart watches that will matter to me

56:20 will be the ones with e in or Mirasol displays I don't want to charge my

56:24 SmartWatch every single day yep I charge this every four days or so that's

56:29 probably fine I would like seven I would like it to be a week some people get a

56:33 week out of the pebble I don't because I'm a heavy user um but the main thing

56:37 for me is when you're at that awkward dinner and you just want to know how

56:41 much longer you have to sit there across from that weird family member who you

56:46 only have to see once a quarter or so and you want to glance at your wrist

56:49 just freaking know what time it is that's important to me it's not a Time

56:54 piece unless it does time well well

56:57 first it's true it's very true um Luke

57:00 pointed out to me a smartwatch that's coming that has a transparent display

57:04 over an analog watch face and this is something if you go back a whole bunch of wos like quite a few I was like they

57:10 need to make an OLED panel that goes on top of a normal freaking watch and can

57:14 just turn on and give you notifications every once in a while so it can completely go off and you can just see

57:18 the normal watch face under it because that's what a lot of people are going to watch are going to want because that is

57:23 going to look super super classy and a lot of people want their high-end

57:27 looking very nice mechanical watches and

57:30 apparently it has happened speaking of wanting watches to look super super

57:35 classy um kind of kind of funny story uh

57:38 there are a lot of people who seem upset that Apple's I watch or whatever they

57:42 end up calling it Apple watch I guess so that Apple's watch is going to be

57:48 expensive it's like yeah how did you not see that

57:54 coming how did you not see that coming watch

57:57 that literally have no justification for

58:00 being expensive are expensive watches are a fashion

58:04 statement fashion statements are expensive yep watch Apple turned the

58:09 phone into a fashion statement in a big way I mean they weren't they weren't the

58:14 pioneer of it I mean Motorola did a great job with the razor but Apple

58:17 turned the smartphone into the ultimate

58:21 phone fashion statement but watches they don't even have to do any work people

58:25 will all already spend a thousand like normal people who work normal jobs will

58:31 spend a th000 2,000 $3,000 on a watch

58:34 that happens I know that technophiles

58:37 who expect every thing that they own to be broken down in terms of the bomb cost

58:43 like the cost of the raw materials that went into it I know that we don't

58:46 necessarily accept that and if you look at me it's not like I'm I'm someone who

58:51 wears a, watch I expect things to be

58:54 practical I expect them to have an ual value and an actual cost associated with

58:58 making them but a lot of the world doesn't work that way no and apple would

59:02 be foolish not to leverage that and that's why I've been saying we need

59:06 those mechanical OLED panel watches because those are going to be crazy

59:09 expensive and that's what a lot of people are going to want to buy I don't

59:12 want one way too expensive but that's what a lot of people are going to want

59:16 I'd like to do a review of one even if we can just get a loner one for a little

59:19 while but yeah speaking of a review uh I

59:22 had a few people questioning my Instagram post earlier today where I

59:28 showed off my new $300 usb3

59:33 cable I bought that thing what well I guess it'll be a

59:39 review it'll be a review um but there's

59:42 a justification for it it's the coolest usb3 cable that has ever existed the

59:48 highest Tech usb3 cable that has ever existed and it is a fiber optic usb3

59:54 cable oh yeah that one in fact it doesn't even adhere to the USB 3.0

59:59 standard n there is no standard for a fiber optic USB 3 cable so the packaging

60:05 is hilarious it says USB 3point

60:10 Optical so it's a 30 m so it's literally

60:14 3.0 get it get it get it so this is a

60:19 100 foot usb3 cable and I actually have

60:22 a plan for something really cool that I'm going to do with it I'll that I'll

60:26 show off to you guys and that I think will make some sense at least to people

60:31 who appreciate minimalistic design so so

60:35 stay tuned for that there is a reason for it I haven't just completely lost my

60:39 Noggin all right uh AMD India do you

60:43 want to do you want to go through this one while I figure out what's going on with my internet connection here sure uh

60:47 so that big announcement that everyone was talking about that was going to happen on September 25th that was like

60:52 super exciting from AMD and like oh my God it's probably going to be a 390 or

60:56 390x nope nope nope they're bringing

61:00 some graphics cards to India um so I

61:03 don't actually know what ones it looks like mainly workstation cards so they're

61:06 bringing a AMD firepro

61:10 w8100 and AMD firepro W 99,100 and gcn

61:15 powered Radeon R9 285 so they are bringing a 285 and then two workstation

61:19 cards so yeah that was that super

61:22 exciting announcement that was going to happen on September the 9100 does have

61:26 16 gigs of RAM that's pretty fraking cool speaking of RAM capacities

61:29 continuing to grow yeah but it's weird when they're blasting a big announcement

61:33 to North Americans and Europeans about like if they if they blasted this in

61:37 India that makes tons of sense yeah because that is a big announcement in

61:41 India I think it was it seems a little unintentional to me it looks a little

61:44 bit like a miscommunication at AMD where someone posted big announcement maybe

61:49 even in India and then it got pushed everywhere yeah some in some the the the

61:52 Press got a hold of the Indian announcement I think some individuals at

61:56 didn't really know what to do or what to say about it felt like they had to say something and uh ended up um they could

62:03 have specifically said it's a big announcement for India because it's

62:07 pretty cool for India right but it's it's it's a very tied

62:12 down announcement which makes sense but it's still a very tied down announcement

62:15 so they could have clarified right I don't think that would have been a

62:19 problem everyone started freaking out and then they could have been like you don't want to downplay it either and

62:23 like make it seem like yeah announcements lame so but it's not lame

62:28 no it is it's just location tied I mean okay okay what they say about the 16 gig

62:32 GPU is that it allows users and I mean this is pretty cool to multitask

62:35 efficiently across six 4K displays that's pretty sick is that not cool that

62:40 is pretty sick six DisplayPort 1.2 I mean the number of

62:44 megapixels the sheer data rate is involved with this it's very cool yeah

62:48 it's just Gamers and sort of the internet in general aren't really going

62:52 to care about it yeah so I think they should have they should have checked

62:55 their checked their announcement a little bit

62:58 it was a little bit overthrown all right DisplayPort will

63:03 work through USB type c that is

63:06 incredibly good news I'm actually pretty excited about that USB type c is looking

63:12 like it's going to be badass I'm just really hoping that connector is solid I

63:17 know it's the only thing I'm worried about I was talking to uh to Ryan Smith

63:21 from an onch we were in the uh the shuttle on the way back to the airport

63:24 together and uh I we were talking about usb type c and and cuz they had an

63:29 article about it they were hands on with it and I was like did you did you see it

63:32 did you touch it he's like no no but I want to what oh so he specifically was

63:37 okay I got it yeah yeah no someone else and one of their other writers so I was

63:43 we were we were just kind of speculating and talking about it a little bit we both agreed that the lightning connector

63:47 is probably about as elegant as it gets for a double-sided connector in terms of

63:52 durability but we both maintain hope

63:55 that USB 3 type-c will be freaking awesome hopefully so just as a recap for

64:00 you guys if you haven't already watched our fastest possible on USB type-c which

64:04 is now outdated because it includes DisplayPort

64:08 connectivity it is validated at up to super speed USB 3.1 so that's 10 gbit

64:13 per second bringing it back within sort of one Leap of

64:18 Thunderbolt it can deliver up to 100 watts of power over a single cable so

64:22 we're talking being able to co charge your laptop over us you can charge your

64:27 laptop run a display off your laptop at the same time it go either direction

64:31 pretty awesome y Bal it can it has alternate modes that support uh the use

64:36 of existing uh HDMI DVI and VGA adapters

64:40 now that DisplayPort can be transmitted over it uh the DisplayPort over USBC

64:44 carries up to 8.1 GB per second per

64:48 Lane this looks so awesome so when using all four lanes of the DisplayPort alt

64:53 mode you could drive a monitor at up to 5K resolution or up to and up to 4K uh

64:59 excuse me so with existing DisplayPort one blah blah blah Etc support up to 4K

65:04 desktop resolutions with 60 frame rates set up to 30 bit color yeah so 4K USB 3

65:10 type-c is a thing freaking awesome that's pretty

65:13 sweet pretty stoked um we are almost out of time and

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70:15 on to our next topic then shall we blizzard cancels its nextg MMO Titan

70:19 after 7 years of development can you imagine having enough money as a company

70:24 that you can work on something for seven years and then just go ah it's not

70:27 turning out the way we liked it well valve trashed TF2 TF2 was like almost

70:32 done and then they're like h no and toss the whole thing away and then now they

70:36 have what we have now which everyone kind of seems to love so they probably

70:40 did the right thing and hopefully that's the same story with blizzard hopefully

70:44 they just decided maybe this isn't the right direction after all and kind of

70:48 pitched it or maybe they're just refocusing on wow that wouldn't even be

70:52 too surprising uh world Warcraft is getting a massive graphic upgrade uh

70:56 update with Warlords of dra or and a whole bunch of other stuff is happening

71:00 so could be just I try it again I haven't played since

71:04 vanilla uh you could we're probably

71:07 we're probably going to have to actually yeah seeing as how you did that maybe

71:11 not um we're probably going to have to Benchmark it when it comes out right

71:15 because it'll be the biggest change in performance that that game has ever had

71:18 since release that big it's they've done

71:22 significant updates before but I don't think they've had one nearly this

71:25 interesting it's a pretty big graphical upgrade they have definitely had graphical updates and one thing that

71:29 they've done is they've just included more stuff right so there's more things

71:33 to load in general especially with the new zones that came in with especially

71:36 if you have longer longer draw distances long draw distances uh so they they've

71:40 done a lot with it but I think this is the most in terms of uh actual texture

71:44 files because like the characters are being upgraded a lot someone could

71:47 correct me on that I could be wrong but I believe it is the biggest one they've

71:51 had so far so they um they're they're talking about it actually pretty openly

71:56 for blizzard which is surprising uh but they went back to the drawing board last

72:00 year and now they're basically just saying well we made wow and we figured

72:04 we knew how to make an MMO but here we are we're looking at this and we're not

72:07 finding the fun and if it's not fun then what's the bloody Point basically it's

72:11 not the first time they've cancelled a significant project that had a lot of

72:14 hype around it yeah Starcraft ghost was supposed to be an FPS about ghosts I was

72:20 pretty stoked for that actually different ghost that was one of the most

72:23 games that I was most hyped about and they just ripped it from reality that

72:28 was unfortunate I mean they had all that artwork of carrian and like was going to

72:32 be cool Nova so much for that um all right so we'll do a few rapid fire

72:36 topics before we before we get into we have build blogs and the giveaway to

72:40 yeah I know uh the 12 in MacBook Air is rumored to maybe have a USB type-c port

72:45 that would be very cool very unexpected I would expect Apple to continue to

72:49 support Thunderbolt exclusively mind you with how many of the rumors about the

72:52 iPhone 6 were just completely out in la la

72:56 um I'd be surprised if this one's true Sleeping Dog sequel Triad Wars is going

73:00 to be PC exclusive hopefully not as many bugs as there was in the console Port uh

73:04 LED SLI Bridges have now been released

73:08 so the ones used in the mod 24 rigs that modding competition that we checked out

73:12 and that have been seen before in like NVIDIA showcase builds for quite some

73:17 time the uh here we've got a we've got a shot of them here so those sexy metal

73:23 SLI bridges that match the the cards really well and they're also releasing

73:26 two different spacings for a dual card yes I saw that so they're releasing like

73:32 side byid so especially if you have something like an matx board you might want to have that and they're releasing

73:36 the the like empty space between the Cards on I love it they're only 30 bucks

73:40 for a two-way and uh 40 bucks for a three-way model which isn't that cheap

73:45 but when you consider how much You' just already spent on your graphics cards I

73:49 don't think it's that much of an Adder yeah um yeah fantastic yep uh nintend

73:55 nintend quasi qu Centennial what the

73:59 heck oh okay whatever so they turned 125 on

74:02 Tuesday um for most of Nintendo's life they produced cards toys and other

74:07 random stuff and didn't transition to video games until actually the

74:11 1970s so uh pretty cool way to go Nintendo happy birthday and they've been

74:15 doing a lot of great stuff lately actually they've totally turned around in the last little while uh even looking

74:20 at stuff like their their DLC for Mario Kart that they're coming out with Y

74:23 absolutely fantastic they're going to double the amount of uh tracks that

74:26 there is or no they're they're 150% the current amount so

74:31 adding 50% the amount of tracks whole bunch of more Racers whole bunch of new

74:35 cars and they're they're continuing down that line with DLC and they come out with Smash and all you you know what I

74:39 like about what they did with Mario Kart because there's the usual argument where

74:43 oh well it's DLC so you shouldn't have made us pay for it in the first place it

74:47 should have been in the game they included exactly as many tracks y as

74:52 they normally do in a Mario Kart game so that PL can just and that's a philosophy

74:56 that's carrying into other games as well and they've publicly said that they're not going to change that their golf game

75:01 I've never played any of their golf games but apparently they have a minimum for the amount of courses and holes that

75:06 will be in a golf game so every golf game Nintendo has released has had a

75:10 minimum amount and in the new one I think you get 100% more or uh sorry I

75:16 think it will be 50% more or 100% more I don't remember how many but there's a

75:20 massive amount of holes and uh courses in the golf game again not really into

75:24 that but people were freaking out about the DLC for that so I read up on it a

75:27 little bit pretty interesting I'm down

75:31 with DLC which is an actual expansion

75:35 yeah I DLC because that's what DLC should be DLC is not new you know War

75:40 Warcraft 2 beyond the dark portal would

75:43 have been DLC if it was possible if it was possible and and I'm totally okay

75:48 with expansion packs I love expansion Age of Empires had DLC Frozen Throne was

75:52 an amazing expansion pack for Warcraft 3 that's right super good and if and if

75:57 DLC legitimately Builds on what was already a freestanding game adds more

76:01 units adds new campaign tweaks uh actually I'm not sure if I how I feel

76:06 about tweaking balance unless you're adding new units but but just if it

76:10 enhances the game and gives War gives

76:13 what originally had its own you know I feel like I got my money's worth out of

76:18 it gives it a whole another set of that then I feel pretty good about it I'm

76:22 okay with that if it's like horse armor then

76:25 yeah I don't know well I they okay you

76:28 could say that and they took a lot of flack for that but hasn't the entire

76:33 DLC industry turned into horse armor

76:36 yeah and that's stupid but that's kind of our fault because people buy it I

76:39 don't buy it but people buy it just stop and then it'll go away

76:45 because it won't be worth creating art assets that people don't buy all

76:50 right it's time to do the million

76:55 subscriber giveaway I don't even know if I can help you cuz my computer doesn't

76:59 seem to be really getting internet oh hey it's working I'm on the uh I'm on

77:03 the other rouer I can help you all right

77:06 so we doing that random.org or how is this how's this happening y we're going

77:10 to random.org this shiz so basically we

77:13 are drawing the winners for the custombuilt gaming PC which I haven't

77:17 gotten around to building yet but I will the custombuilt gaming PC isn't it

77:20 mostly built already no I haven't even touched it the video card on your bench

77:25 I thought that was the razor one no oh no that's been torn apart Oh I thought

77:29 you just like rebuilding that up and then we can't ship that case it's like got scratches and crap on it oh yeah

77:34 it's yeah it's an engineering sample yeah yeah okay uh no no well we'll find

77:37 a case we'll find a good one we have a garage full of cases um so okay so

77:42 custom gaming rig Microsoft Surface Pro 3 the one that I bought to do my review

77:47 and because I thought I might end up using it but I didn't really like it that much but you might and whatever our

77:53 last what was our last prize I don't even remember ah yes we're redrawing the

77:56 G550 J from Highlander because the

78:00 person who won it never responded so the third time I think bummer for them all

78:05 right so we're going to the thread we're going to draw it live uh 1 million

78:09 subscribers thank you all oh hold on a second I gotta sign

78:16 out back to here signing

78:19 out scrolling down contrl F searching

78:23 wow clicking you are the most helpful person ever today viewing random Forum

78:28 thread you're back to being dead to taking you back off my

78:34 shirt all right so the first two are

78:38 going to go to the first two people who are randomly drawn the third one we are

78:43 going to keep drawing until we find someone who is a positively contributing

78:48 member to The Forum how are we judging that uh we're just going to kind of look

78:53 at them and if we know who they are then they win this might be awkward I we'll

78:58 figure it out maybe let's not say positively contributing let's just say

79:01 contributing okay an actual member of the of the lonus tech chps Forum that

79:06 participates participatory member of The Forum why don't we say just for the sake

79:11 of making life a little bit easier for ourselves why don't we say kind of um

79:16 post count is sketchy no no I don't want to use post count but post count doesn't

79:19 matter at all but we'll we'll we'll we'll kind of do a quick glance at their

79:23 last few posts and make sure that they're actually trying to participate

79:28 okay and I'm not going to be looking at anyone who started participating right

79:32 when the 1 million subscriber giveaway started because I said that that was

79:36 going to be a requirement and that I wanted it to be for people who have

79:39 already participated without me offering them uh a laptop yeah yeah okay all

79:44 right so let's do the first draw random.org

79:48 1,119 oh my goodness Min one

79:53 1,119 generous great so now we are going

79:56 to go to page 742 in the thread click on

80:00 that which this click on page one you can do that yeah and then oh no way that

80:06 is amazing all right did you click go I mostly clicked

80:11 go okay I think it I think it worked all right this is kind of a big thread I

80:16 think everyone's looking at the Forum yeah and everyone's probably looking at

80:20 the Forum right now because that will somehow affect their chances of winning

80:24 I guess or something they will be there with

80:29 us oh derped refresh it yeah oh okay what

80:36 page was it 742 let's make sure I got that right yes

80:43 whoops yes I don't have a very good memory especially when I'm sleep

80:48 deprived did you already have the thread loaded up yeah or did you load this

80:53 okay everyone went to the Forum The

80:57 Forum isn't hosted on Squarespace yeah I know right okay so I really wanted to do

81:02 this live but it looks like that is not going to happen I'm sorry we do like to

81:07 do these draws live just so that you guys can can trust us that we we can do

81:12 a recorded video of it while the camera doesn't stop and we draw it there

81:17 because that would be way too much production time where are we even going to release that I guess we can put it

81:22 unlisted on the channel and like link it in the wow do here or something it would

81:25 be a fun video oh I don't want to do a full video for

81:29 that okay we'll we'll talk about it offline but um okay so in that case are

81:34 you even able to do build logs then yes I sent you an email all right sweet like

81:38 right when the show started so it should be pretty recent do your

81:42 LMG thing there we go all right here we

81:46 go feature build log there's four things but you only need really two of them but

81:49 if you download it you because you probably won't be able to view it in your browser you can try but I expect no

81:56 so there was one choice by the community and there's one choice by the staff I

81:59 don't know why that happened cuz I told them considering there were so many

82:03 entries there should be like way more than one from each but apparently

82:06 there's one from each so we're doing one from each for now because I didn't

82:10 notice until today I probably should have checked so that was my

82:14 fault at least you owned your mistake yep all right so uh slideshow so the

82:20 first one is by Sage C and this is Project N64 I believe this one was the

82:24 one chosen by the mods why is that the

82:28 slideshow what the heck is this

82:31 what y PowerPoint why you

82:36 do why you why you do this power that is

82:39 super derp that better not be the was it like review slideshow from beginning it

82:44 should be what are you doing display settings

82:49 maybe here we go what oh that's like presenter View

82:55 okay I get

82:58 it

83:04 um it's not it's not a

83:08 what oh hold on a second uh wait where did where did we

83:13 get that hold on one sec we're learning how to use PowerPoint we'll be back

83:16 except we're not going anywhere no I think they had the right one already no

83:21 they don't it should it shouldn't be anre yeah it's a duplicated screen is it

83:26 is it Frozen no I don't think so try to open

83:30 your start menu maybe Frozen not

83:37 frozen oh it's an extended display why

83:41 is it an extended display why is it extended we're supposed to do duplicate

83:45 displays what is it doing I don't know what is it high this is really weird so

83:49 we're looking at a presenter view that is

83:53 not oh oh my goodness all right so let's

83:57 just let's just try previewing it from here this is why we don't make videos

84:01 about Microsoft software well what were they thinking about PowerPoint I guess

84:06 who does make videos about someone should make a video about PowerPoint cuz this is ridiculous boring video they

84:10 should present the video from PowerPoint they should just record their screen and

84:13 have a PowerPoint presentation running I'm sure that I'm sure that people who

84:17 use PowerPoint all the time technically I use PowerPoint all the time I just

84:22 realized that but I don't use this version so that's my defense I'm sure someone's

84:27 laughing at us and I'm sure that they're right and we're we're idiots or in the

84:30 version that I use it's like super duper

84:34 easy okay yay all right l a screen nope

84:40 what are we looking at I have no idea not a

84:47 clue what is it's not showing your screen though because you just had a

84:50 photo viewer up yeah it's not updating

84:53 or something oh that's why I said open your start menu like it's not updating

84:57 properly there's something else going on because it's yeah when you open your

85:02 start menu it should have shown the start menu on yeah it's not working oh

85:06 okay well that explains a lot now then so let's see if uh did you try

85:11 unplugging it and plugging it back in no no not yet um let's just see if this

85:18 does a thing a well okay okay okay new

85:22 plan new plan don't worry you guys we're

85:25 going to find a way to do this oh there you go that'll work I want to do build

85:29 Guides of the week dang it month oh hold on a

85:33 second oh oh oh okay okay we heard back

85:38 from NVIDIA just in time well actually

85:41 right around the time we were talking about it on the show called it that's

85:44 all I have to say it is not NVIDIA's intention to restrict support to GeForce

85:49 PCS the reality is that the quickest path to releasing PC support was to

85:54 release it through our existing GeForce experience software we are working on a

85:58 plan to support non- GeForce PCS but currently cannot commit to a time frame

86:02 for support all right Faith restored it

86:06 made no sense like I didn't want to like go over it too hard but it made no sense

86:11 there nothing in but you were saying that there's something in in GeForce

86:14 experience that it would have to be tied to well no what I what I was saying was

86:17 that maybe like I could understand why GeForce experience might be

86:22 easier we can go back and you can watch the archive if you want I never said

86:26 that I said that the touchpad might not work or something yeah but that makes no

86:30 sense why not who knows what ises GeForce experience do that would have

86:34 anything to do with that who knows the point is that as a controller I couldn't

86:38 see any reason why it wouldn't work so anyway the point is completely valid

86:42 none of that happened they just rolled it out through gForce experience because

86:46 of convenient way for them to roll driver updates out to people and it was

86:49 really painless to get it working I just plugged it in and it worked which is nice all right yay faith St NVIDIA good

86:55 job you guys um let's go ahead and go

86:59 back to Luke's email here which hopefully I can find I can't even see it

87:04 I get too many emails top one top one top one top one

87:08 there we go build LGS um blue ones why are there four BL

87:15 okay my brain is exploding all right let's why it

87:19 download oh did you click both of them so what we'll have to do screen region

87:24 capture is yeah we'll just do screen region capture and then we will oh I

87:31 don't know let's pick this scene or something oh add screen

87:37 region all right stream seion for a little bit here

87:41 guys and slideshow from beginning so now

87:46 we're just hoping that it's working yeah cool it's probably working project and

87:51 okay do you want to give the background for this uh project N64 well let's just

87:56 got that so far by Sage C let's go with them let's go with them so this is all

87:59 the included components um which is not super important in my opinion you can

88:04 check out all the included components and all that kind of stuff if you go are you hating on his inclusion of a broken

88:08 N64 no I think that's pretty cool because that was my actually this this

88:12 is an interesting discussion that was my favorite part about listing the system

88:15 specs of my mineral oil PC was when they asked for case right I was always like

88:20 fish tank yeah so that's yeah yeah I

88:24 know that's pretty cool but the the point of the build doogs isn't necessarily like oh he used AMD instead

88:29 of Intel like that's not really the point so I don't really want to spend

88:32 too much time on this this is the point

88:36 the awesomeness that is this computer so yeah he shows in the

88:41 beginning where he just kind of tore apart the N64 and started removing

88:45 things then putting in his motherboard and whatnot and then if we move on

88:48 forward you can see the end shots which

88:52 are amazing wow that's

88:56 ridiculous that's fantastic pretty freaking cool I've seen

89:01 some like old console buildup computer

89:04 into it builds but this one is kind of

89:07 incredible even having seen those in the past that's really clean yeah it is

89:11 extremely clean usually you see some sort of breakage and this is extremely

89:16 well done all right super awesome so I

89:19 believe that one was voted for by he

89:22 stole my idea yeah no um I believe that one was voted for by the mods someone in

89:27 the chat was like B he stole my idea like yeah it's also been done before

89:32 yeah the idea of building a computer in a in an old console is not really new no

89:36 it's awesome and you did an extremely good job but it it probably wasn't your

89:40 original idea and it yeah more people will do it in the future all right sorry

89:44 I'm just trying to be careful not to leak anyone's personal information here

89:48 so would be happy about that was it guest here we go all right so we've got

89:53 our second one here here so just in case you didn't know water cooled PC desk mod

89:57 with car sound system this one's got some pretty nice

90:02 specs two 780 Ti and SLI lots of storage

90:06 holy crap seven terabytes of storage plus the

90:12 ssds although I don't think he te no he didn't make it into the 10 tab thread

90:17 unfortunately close enough and from what I've heard you're allowed to be a

90:22 heathen and posting the 10 tab thread evening if you don't have 10 tabes oh

90:26 just to like hang out with everyone if you want I guess I should I should post

90:29 our uh our server when we get our new uh Seagate drives we're getting some super

90:34 high cap Seagate drives for our for our server that are going to make us maybe

90:38 near the top of the 10 tab plus nice will we not be in red anymore because

90:42 that would be nice I'm sorry we've been riding the red line for like months uh

90:46 it's been relatively okay lately I expanded it to 21 terabytes and we

90:50 offloaded four terabytes the other day there you go nice all right wow so it

90:55 looks extremely similar to the NVIDIA

90:58 desk that we went to go see yeah that's true not exactly the same at all Y no

91:02 but the uh the horizontal reservoirs the

91:05 NVIDIA one had two completely separate pcs one on either side which which kind

91:09 of nuts didn't make a ton of sense to me but

91:13 whatever they're NVIDIA they do what they want I guess dual power supplies in

91:17 there pretty sick looking system oh yeah that is super cool gets a

91:23 lot more more sick than we had originally thought I'm face roll love

91:28 all this got a couple Optical drives in because you can like in dash console

91:36 stuff in here because you can fan controller because you can pretty much

91:40 everything about this build is because

91:43 you can sick build very very

91:48 cool so awesome I think that pretty much

91:51 wraps it up for the W show you guys thank you than you for tuning in all

91:56 over 5,000 of you I think we had around 5500 Peak you guys are fantastic we

92:01 appreciate it sorry about the problems at the beginning um we're sorry one

92:05 thing to note is that our folding team and our boink teams are super awesome so

92:09 you should go join them if you want to contribute your compute power to a good

92:12 cause uh they're both doing extremely well I don't have numbers off hand here

92:15 which wher's probably going to stab me for but join your boink team did you you

92:20 haven't no I haven't there's a few mods that are on it and I'm on it

92:24 I'm doing pretty good but I'm not at the top I think my dad might still be at the

92:28 top or someone's finally passed him that's awesome I'm not sure we got to

92:31 get him some more Hardware so he can stay there which we will be doing soon his dad helped us with the whole room

92:35 liquid cooling thing so yeah and yes we will make videos about it and no they're

92:40 not ready yet they're not even probably not coming soon yeah Ed's on vacation

92:45 for at least another week and then when he gets back if he has time then he will

92:50 start working on that project start he hasn't started yet not really like he's

92:54 done some but not it's not and there's quite a bit of footage to go through

92:58 people are yelling about the giveaway again I think we already tried um I

93:02 don't think the Forum is back up but I could

93:06 check looks like no looks like not I'm

93:09 sorry guys we'll have to we'll have to post the giveaway shortly yep all right

93:14 thanks again for watching and as always don't forget to subscribe Li's TPS yay

93:18 that was a different ending to the van show that we don't normally do uh yes it

93:23 was I I couldn't think of anything

93:26 else Forum does seem to be back oh no there it goes never

93:31 mind cuz the thing is it came back up and then everyone was like give away and

93:35 went back and then it went back down right it's like

93:39 oh oh there's no there's no audio for the outro and also I didn't even have

93:43 the thing on well yay we carried a couch and went through a swamp it happened

93:47 you'll have to trust us