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The WAN Show: iPhone 6 Rumours, Oculus DK2 & Project Morpheus, Moto 360 - March 21, 2014

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2014-05-07 · 24,472 words · ~122 min read

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0:00 all right guys it is W show time we had

0:05 a couple people we've got people complaining that we're an hour late we

0:10 are not an hour late daylight savings time is a thing here in the Canada well

0:15 not in all of Canada but we've been through this we've been through this

0:18 last week so I'm not going to spend too much time on it I actually just realized

0:22 that I don't have my headphones on me so I'm not monitoring the audio so for all

0:27 I know they're not hearing any of this

0:31 rock on so anyway here we go I'm going

0:34 to go ahead and make sure that we actually have audio it looks like we do

0:40 so got people being like no sound no

0:44 sound I love you guys I love you so much

0:47 hey uh Brandon speaking of no sound can you Center the camera for us I think it

0:52 like fell thanks man I don't know how this

0:56 happens all the time I don't even get it

0:59 ghost Phantom camera movers I actually I know exactly how it happens I'm usually

1:03 the one who moves it by accident no because the tripod is not

1:08 actually secured very well here Brandon just look over here but what are you

1:12 doing in here all the time the well I I'm borrowing the lens or stuff like

1:17 that so or like turning off the camera

1:20 because you guys we're in a really small room like actually really small really

1:24 small so the camera is on a tripod where

1:28 like the back legs are like vertical and the front legs like out like this so

1:32 the camera's like right against the wall I can barely reach the power button all

1:37 right so we got a great show for you guys today actually fantastic show um

1:43 Google has begun talking about their

1:46 Smartwatch OS Android Wear so this is a

1:51 type of Android that when it bites other Androids they become infected

1:58 and not wear and no no Android Wear not

2:02 wear I got I got it it was a joke yeah

2:05 it was a rather clever one so Android Wear is going to be an OS

2:10 that is specifically optimized for wearables and the one of the first

2:14 products we're going to see is the Moto 360 which has people internally here at

2:19 lonus Media Group anyway extremely excited because it's round

2:26 well that brings in my okay I was I I tried we're not getting into this topic

2:29 yet oh you have to do your introductory topics then the intro I got so excited I

2:33 was ready to go anyway I we got to tease the audience don't just you my teasing

2:37 articles put out entirely right up front is that there's something called Project

2:41 Morpheus coming from Sony which has to do with VR and there's something more

2:45 direct called uh developer kit 2 coming

2:48 from Oculus which is about VR and we'll talk about both those things in their

2:52 hopefully entirety later and there's also a documentary released by Valve

2:57 which some people are either on on either side of a fence for and that fence seems to be completely hating it

3:01 or completely loving it so we'll talk about that later as well all right

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4:51 I was shaving and I was just like one day I went to the store and I was

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5:04 me with any like when's the last time other than Cosmetics when's the last

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5:49 message aside that's bad for you dude I

5:52 know but it's just like I'm way too lazy to go by because every single time I get

5:56 there I'm just like oh I'm done I just

6:00 leave I hate finding people in stores and even if I can find someone I hate

6:05 talking to salese well they're just they're just

6:08 opening a cabinet for you it's not like you're buying them at a car dealership

6:13 speaking of car dealerships we're super mad at them should we just jump into

6:16 that right now we should just jump right into that right now cuz I'm like super

6:21 mad I get the feeling that we're going to be talking about this like every week

6:25 for the next like I don't know how long where the hell is this link remember we

6:30 can use the no it's not there where was it Ohio there we go Ohio auto dealers

6:35 support an anti-tesla direct sales Bill

6:44 really really they don't they support

6:47 the anti- Tesla Bill and now my screen sharing isn't working because that's how

6:52 angry I am right now that's like the level of anger that's going on is that

6:57 even plugged into the right thing your anger just like

7:00 flow is that yeah flowed into the flow flow too too much anger I think it's

7:06 going into the a media thing so anyway here you do you want to like walk them

7:09 through this in the okay so Ohio like obviously I don't know why anyone would

7:14 think otherwise oh you just moved the

7:19 camera Ohio auto dealers are trying to

7:22 push the bill that will stop Tesla from opening stores outside of its only two

7:26 locations in Ohio ah so you don't let them sell

7:31 directly the customer you're not letting them sell like oh

7:35 man they're taking legal action against them but it didn't fall in their favor

7:38 blah blah blah but it might because they're in big pockets and they have

7:42 tons of money and they're probably yeah

7:45 do you even listen to yourself yes that wasn't as bad as coming with a brick

7:50 come come with a brick that's fantastic

7:53 all right I'm going to I just plugged it into a different capture card because

7:57 that is how baller we are now so a lot of the auto dealers don't want to sell

8:01 Tesla vehicles but they don't also don't want Tesla to be able to sell their own

8:05 Vehicles which is kind of ridiculous I can fully understand the auto dealers

8:08 not wanting to sell Tesla vehicles because they're stupid but I can't fully

8:12 understand not Tesla vehicles are stupid auto dealers are stupid and we hate them

8:17 but I can't understand they're like yeah we don't want to sell them but you can't

8:20 sell them either I get where they're coming from but that's way worse and

8:24 should never be allowed to be a thing so basically this just comes down to who's

8:28 got the deep relation existing relationship and not what's actually

8:33 best for the consumer or best for a free and open market I mean okay so here that

8:39 there there's there's some big problems here so we have another article on this

8:42 that's actually from jalopnik.com where

8:46 Patrick George the writer there I'm just going to go ahead and bring this up on the screen figures and and this was so

8:51 his early estimate when he was just digging into the public record figures

8:55 that the Ohio Senator behind the new bill who was the same one who tried to

9:00 sneak this into some stupid traffic legislation at some point earlier um the

9:06 same guy who's behind it has taken so he figured uh

9:10 $7,500 since 2009 from the Ohio

9:14 Automobile Dealers Association Investment Group then there's an update

9:19 to the article and it's like okay well it turns out that he got way more from

9:23 car dealers that I was able to find media trackers reports between 2002 and

9:27 2013 pattent received 42

9:30 1,825 from State and National Auto dealership owners employees and

9:35 political action committees honestly I would fully expect it to be more than

9:39 that too it may very well be more than that like that's what they know of like

9:43 come on but this is a big fundamental

9:47 problem how can we expect the world to move forward if we just take these

9:52 existing incumbents who just have Deep Pockets to just buy whatever they want

9:58 and allow them to do this last week we talked about it and you went slightly

10:03 defensive when saying um about how it takes it takes people a long time to

10:07 adapt to different things yes and like like the selling directly from the

10:11 retailer and all that kind of stuff and that kind of makes I propose to

10:15 compromise I'm I'm not saying that I'm just saying like that was brought up and

10:19 that's actually kind of interesting and kind of makes sense but when people are

10:22 taking this kind of a stance that's not really okay okay so here's a quote from

10:26 this Paton Yahoo the state leg ISL years

10:30 ago recognized having distinct roles for auto

10:34 manufacturers and dealers Fosters competition in the marketplace and

10:38 provides consumers with a system of checks and balances to ensure that

10:42 warranty and service issues are administered fairly he said in an email

10:47 Senate Bill 260 simply reinforces a standard set of rules for all

10:51 manufacturers and dealers to follow which benefits both the industry and consumers when was the last time anyone

10:56 anywhere had a good experience with a car warranty issue at a dealership I

11:01 would love to hear from you guys hit us up on Twitter if you have had a good at

11:07 lineus tech on Twitter right there if your manufacturer warranty experience at

11:12 a dealership was fantastic all Tesla is asking for is a to cut out the middleman

11:17 and they're not blameless here they really are just trying to reduce overhead which isn't necessarily bad but

11:22 the other thing that they're asking for is to control the customers experience

11:26 because they don't feel like dealerships deliver a great one and I for I forget

11:30 where the link was last year but I think it was something like 9% satisfaction

11:34 polls well I did I tell you but when I was shopping for my car car salesman or

11:38 something like that when I was shopping for my car I knew the exact model I wanted and we spent the entire day just

11:43 going to dealership to dealership to dealership and I'd like walk around for a little bit and then just leave I was

11:49 like I just hate these guys like I can't do it like I'd get hounded and then I

11:55 talk to them for a little bit and then I just be like oh sorry just leave there's a great episode of um there's a great

12:00 episode of Dexter where he he kills a car salesman and the guy just like is

12:05 amazing like the actor did a really great job of being a car salesman but it

12:09 was it the scary part of watching it was the car salesman was exactly like every

12:14 car salesman I've ever encountered it's like oh you've got a 2-year-old son so

12:18 do I and I'd be looking at them I'm like yeah you're like 65 no you don't it's

12:22 just ridiculous anything to like build

12:25 the relationship with the customer and make them feel comfortable giving

12:30 we went with the angle I paid for my car but we went the angle so that they

12:33 thought it was my parents so I could easily be the like the one actually

12:37 managing everything but they were targeting my parents so he heard our

12:41 last name and then asked my dad where he's from oh they ended up going to the

12:44 same school and like all this crap and I was like probably not luckily all that

12:50 junk is focused on my dad even though I'm the one actually making the purchasing decision that was one of the

12:54 smartest things I've ever had my mom do was like let's make them think we're

12:58 buying it that was so smart cuz it made it so much easier anyways anyway

13:05 so I guess that's about it luckily we don't have to talk about it for very

13:08 long because we're probably going to have to talk about it every single week yeah I know right as new States and new

13:12 things come into play one thing that you said earlier that I thought was

13:16 hilarious uh this was a few days ago about this thing CU like you were like I

13:20 thought this was America yeah I thought this was America you know what's funny

13:23 about that is direct sales already exists in

13:27 Canada it's like America you're falling behind like Canada in your americanness

13:32 like come on Freedom Train we're we're actually like rooting for you over here

13:37 you guys can do it I believe in you we we want we want everyone to have the

13:41 right to buy the vehicle they want the way they want without dealing with

13:44 greasy used car salesman or new car salesman I don't think the new ones are

13:47 better than the used ones they're not light condoms that

13:53 way all right so let's head back over to my screen here Google is official

13:59 getting into wearables is the first line of this article which Dante I mean come

14:04 on is that is that really the headline here I mean Google Glass was I mean it

14:10 goes on your face if anything it's more

14:14 wearable than a smartwatch but it but it's okay it's okay it's okay I still like the article so Smartwatch is coming

14:19 soon from some of the partners that they've announced including Motorola

14:23 Samsung LG and more the one that you're

14:26 looking right there is the Moto 3 60

14:29 which has a round display and with a very very classic styling looks a lot

14:34 more like what we would expect a watch to look like as opposed to just being a

14:38 smartwatch now I've seen some smart Smartwatch designs haven't had my hands

14:42 on too many of them yet I have a Pebble Steel coming um I'm definitely going to

14:46 Ping Motorola about getting my hands on one of these and I've had some people

14:50 requesting that I look at the Sony SmartWatch 2o um I reached out to my

14:53 contact there but it's like a Canadian contact so they often don't have access

14:56 to stuff but if I can't get one from them I'll just buy one and uh I

15:00 definitely want to talk more about about these wearables but um I've seen some

15:05 really smart ones that include things like a classic analog watch under a

15:09 transparent screen and I think something like that is I told you about that

15:14 that's that's the thing that I didn't want to put in uh the show yet but like

15:18 I've i' I told you about that months ago about how that should have been a thing

15:22 how they have a normal watch with a screen on top of it so it can be a smart

15:26 watch or a classic watch that makes so much sense that makes a ton of sense to

15:29 me but for someone like me who doesn't really about the classic watch look I

15:33 would probably still go with something more like the Moto 360 so basically it's

15:37 going to be running a very very lightweight OS you're going to have the

15:40 ability to obviously pair it with your other Android devices uh you'll be able

15:45 to use things like voice control so Google Now something that doesn't come

15:50 up in everyday conversation that much uh

15:54 unlike Xbox my buddy Nick and I were hanging out last night working on something and I had my phone up and he

15:58 had his phone up and he decided to set a calendar event he like Okay Google and

16:04 they're like like stop no I don't want this on

16:09 my phone anyways sorry keep going um Google's also working with fashion

16:14 brands as opposed to just pure it Brands

16:17 I mean the the great thing about it Brands we love them dearly and they

16:21 deliver fantastic technology to us um the not so great thing about them is

16:25 that sometimes they don't really have great fashion sense and Apple

16:30 well I did pick the orange one the bad fashion sense was sort of my bad here so

16:34 you're the it brand is I'm the IT guy so

16:38 when you compare that to Apple um and they just beautiful fashion sense Google

16:44 doesn't want their mobile their wearable OS to be stuck as like for for it dorks

16:50 like me they want it to be something that will be accepted by the general

16:54 consumer so they will be working very closely with their Partners to ensure

16:57 that we get beautiful designs although Moto 360 from a more traditional company

17:01 although we don't know how much influence Google had on the project because of the very brief ownership that

17:07 they had of Motorola so all of those things um looks absolutely beautiful and

17:12 and that's a big thing with watches cuz watches are huge about style yes so like

17:17 it it does make a ton of sense if we really cared about the functionality of

17:20 watches everyone would still be wearing a calculator

17:24 watch hey I had one that did everything it had a backlight could do alarms I

17:30 could write boobies on it yeah I'm sure you could did

17:36 absolutely everything so did I miss anything there

17:42 I don't think so we're just kind of waiting to get one so we can do a video

17:46 about it yeah there will be more information in sort of the beginning of the summer sort of like late June sort

17:51 of time frame um there's lots of rumors flying around about Apple Smartwatch I'm

17:56 really excited to see what comes from both of them and I will definitely get

17:59 my hands on them at my soonest possible

18:02 opportunity uh one thing I don't like about the Moto 360 which I guess let's

18:06 get into now is that they seem to be

18:10 using just kind of a a traditional LCD based screen um and for

18:16 me with a phone I can like here here

18:20 this is this is actually great cuz I have my phone plugged into a battery

18:24 bank right now CU it died when I tried to call him right with a phone I can

18:30 kind of accept one day battery because it's something that I already like I

18:35 don't know like I already accept it even though I don't know if I should like our

18:40 our new guy Taran um was using some

18:43 ancient hey Taran do you have your phone here your old

18:47 one yeah he does does he yeah

18:50 Taran do you have your old phone

18:53 here can I borrow it you guys are going to love this so he's got an old phone

18:58 that he figures gets about a month of battery life but I saw this thing and I

19:02 was like dude you got to get with the time so I was just like here's a One

19:06 Mini I know it's not the greatest phone in the world but jeez man when I first

19:11 saw it I thought it was a Blackberry yeah if a Blackberry was made

19:15 by like Fisher pra so this is this is

19:18 like a look at the screen size it actually doesn't even weigh anything

19:23 either it does have a keybard to my thumb yeah here

19:29 thank you um so we can we can make fun of it because we we gave him something

19:34 else but one of the things he complained about immediately switching to a modern

19:38 smartphone is the hey the battery life sucks on this thing I have to charge it

19:41 every day and I have been doing it for so long that I've kind of Forgotten but

19:46 with watches we're not talking about going from a week of battery on my old

19:50 noia brick phone versus like a day of or a couple days of battery at best on a

19:54 smartphone we're talking about going from months long batteries or even like

20:00 solar powered to like a day on the gear

20:04 no no no so we need to see mirol displays we need to see advances in that

20:09 technology we need to see whatever it takes to keep them low power enough to

20:12 run for at least four to 5 days would be my Benchmark if I can remember to charge

20:17 it a couple times a week then I'm okay with that I found when I was testing G2

20:23 that it had like actually a pretty acceptable amount because you could go

20:26 with pretty heavy use for 2 days and between totally fine and that was pretty

20:30 good cuz if you forgot one night you probably wouldn't forget the next so

20:33 that was okay when I was testing it so right now we don't have too many details

20:37 about the 360 it's going to launch in the summer uh they aren't mentioning any

20:41 specs whatsoever and I think that's going to be a common theme with

20:45 SmartWatches Samsung did release some of the specifications of the gear so they

20:51 were like yeah we're using kind of this processor we're using a cut down Android

20:54 we're doing this we're doing that but you look at what Qualcomm did with the

20:57 talk they didn't give us any specs I don't think anyone really I don't think

21:01 Pebble talks about what they're using in their watches at all I think for these

21:05 kinds of devices the the Space Race the gigahertz race um is going to be pretty

21:10 much over and I'm okay with that and I had some I had someone criticize me

21:14 pretty harshly on my Talk review when I said I don't know what's in here and I

21:18 don't care they said well you're a Tech head you're supposed to care but the

21:22 reality of it is that beyond the display and the aesthetic and the software of

21:27 something like a smart Smart Watch why would I care all the processing is done

21:33 here all the connectivity besides and hopefully that will happen even more

21:38 right we've talked about this in the past where we were talking about having a more centralized compute and then your

21:42 other things just connecting to it so hopefully that will matter even less

21:47 than it does now if anything the smart watch should be as dumb as possible so

21:52 that we can extend its battery life cuz that'll be a better overall experience

21:55 if you can you know have your wireless Ear Pod

21:59 and your Smartwatch and all this stuff that just uses super low power

22:02 connectivity to have something else do all the work and act as as a hub then

22:08 that's going to deliver a much better experience for people who actually need to like gear all this stuff up every day

22:13 before they leave the house yeah um so it'll probably feature wireless charging

22:17 we'll launch first in the US but we'll find a way to get our hands on it um no

22:21 camera on board uh there are some pictures and

22:24 renders on the uh The Daily Tech article here so nice pop that it looks

22:29 absolutely beautiful doesn't it yeah there you go and like the classic watch

22:33 fronts look really good yeah I'm

22:37 actually pretty stoked for this too and I haven't been super stoked for too many smart watches yet so you'll be able to

22:41 do all the usual stuff check your emails preview your text messages all that kind

22:45 of all that kind of nonsense but uh you know I'm not going to get too hyped

22:49 about it this time because I got really

22:52 amped on the qualcom talk yeah I remember that I was like it did look a

22:57 lot better and it's not bad yeah it

23:00 isn't a bad product there's just a few things like the the cutting the thing

23:04 it's just not a finished product yeah that was my issue with it and it was too

23:08 expensive although they dropped the price $100 like two days after my review

23:12 went up so I single-handedly take responsibility for that price

23:17 drop no I don't but but I I I would have

23:21 probably adjusted my conclusion about the device a little bit based on the

23:25 price drop but I would have also needed to see them going in the right direction in terms of software Dev as well I mean

23:30 one thing that I really you know this this isn't in our

23:34 agenda today but go for it we do that a lot

23:38 anyways yeah I know Fitness wearables y

23:42 fad or longterm I think eventually they'll just

23:47 be integrated into everything else um but I think Fitness is not a

23:52 fad okay so like I think it'll be something maybe considering your

23:56 Smartwatch will have skin contact anyway maybe it can grab your heartbeat that

24:00 way maybe other things can do everything that Fitness wearables are currently

24:03 doing so you don't need them maybe your freaking running headphones that you

24:07 wear can now do everything that the fitness wearable does yeah I saw one

24:11 that's I actually kickstarted it last night I think I didn't even know that

24:14 existed so like I I think the idea of Fitness integrated with technology that

24:19 you can go on a run is only going to get bigger but I don't know if it's going to

24:23 be dedicated devices are we just selling the dream to people who are out of shape

24:29 no not necessarily because the main people I know that are buying these things are actually fairly in shape okay

24:34 I know someone that goes for like 10 to 15K runs at least twice a week and he's

24:39 the one that always has the new fitness wearable okay okay but of course you're

24:44 dealing with Fitness some amount of it is going to be selling the dream cuz we

24:49 fit sold like billio some amount of it is selling the dream I out of the

24:54 3,130 people watching right now I guarantee not one of you has touched a

24:57 we fit in like a year like that's the

25:01 that's the issue with these Fitness wearables is that I look at them right

25:04 now in their current form and I go well that's stupid because it does like one

25:09 thing and it's an entire another device to carry around something that I've been

25:13 waiting for is a more and like I know I'm taking this course so of course I'm

25:17 trying to apply it to everything but um I kind of always do because I think it's

25:21 fantastic but a more gamified system of Fitness wearables like my biggest

25:25 complaint with the Zombies Run 2 app is

25:28 that it's not tracked enough and there's

25:32 not enough like goals and progress loops

25:35 and engagement loops and stuff like that like there's nothing pushing me to go for my run right other than myself once

25:40 I get out there I get the voice track I get all that kind of stuff but like the

25:43 build your own base part of it is really not very welldeveloped and it's kind of

25:47 really boring and has no real meaning um

25:51 and the social integration is there but it's kind of JY and doesn't matter the

25:56 problem with social integration for fitness apps in my mind is that it helps

26:02 the people who are already really active yeah maybe it keeps a ball rolling but I

26:07 don't think if you're not in a group of

26:10 physically engaged people like uh so so the only real thing that I do to work

26:14 out is I play badminton so unless my whole group all are like using that app

26:20 or something and like we play all of our games with like this badminton app or

26:23 something that tracks how far you moved on the court and we can compare stats

26:27 and there's some kind of there like unless it's really deeply integrated and

26:32 really personalized it's not that meaningful to

26:35 me and I don't think it's going to help a couch potato get off the couch I think it's more like for your buddy who

26:39 already runs anyway yeah and that's true but then it's it has to be voluntary

26:43 like that part of the app has to be voluntary you have to look for it and

26:46 you have to enable it yourself if it's forced upon you it's just going to hurt

26:50 right it's not a good idea um but like having those things where maybe playing

26:55 Zombies Run if I go for a run four or five times in one week it can be like

27:00 you're really getting on it it give be some sort of badge or award or something

27:04 and then maybe I can get something in the game maybe it'll talk to me different or something like that like

27:07 some type of so I can have some sort of a goal within the system within the game

27:12 I think that's a good idea and could push a lot of people off the couch

27:15 because the main reason why I'm going for these runs lately is because it's

27:19 fun right I hate going for runs is

27:22 mind-numbingly boring but if I can listen to this this audio tape

27:26 essentially which is just giving me a storyline which I really have no integration with which is another thing

27:30 that's terrible about that game is there's no actual plotted points on a

27:33 map so I just run in a circle the whole time and they're like yeah let's run

27:36 down Main Street and I'm like I'm running through the park this is not a

27:40 thing I think when you'll convince me CU that that again is the to is the problem

27:45 with this Fitness thing for me and I think what's out there now is kind of

27:48 fatty yeah but it that's the problem but when we see it more tightly integrated

27:52 like that um that laser tag system that we saw with the augmented reality when

27:57 you integrate that with a fitness element you build a fitness app for that

28:01 so that it's designed to move your Battlefield around and your objectives

28:05 around like if they mix like if they mixed like uh Ingress with uh Zombies

28:11 Run so you have to like run to a point and like take it over and then keep

28:14 running something yeah yeah that totally makes sense something like that is a

28:17 whole other ball game and then you know I've got a lot of people okay I I I I

28:22 don't I don't normally I don't normally respond to these kinds of comments but

28:26 I've got a lot of people that that are that are giving me a hard time about

28:30 Badminton being a workout here on the stream so uh so oh god really so you

28:35 know what okay here we go right

28:40 there that's right this is awkward right

28:44 there I'm not a part of this binton is a workout I'm not a part I wasn't on this

28:47 stream it's the only thing I do I wasn't on the stream bam all right I'm just

28:54 putting that out there so let's move on to our next topic because badminton is a

28:59 thing this is awkward Amazon smartphone the original article is from bgr.com oh

29:05 you know what no before we move into that let's have a look at people's

29:08 comments on the whole dealership thing Ryan says Nope um hermy says Audi has

29:14 good car salesman uh Tommy says I work at a and we don't have razors in cages

29:18 there they're alarmed and it's in front of the counter okay that's not that's

29:22 better if you're willing to give up that near the car salesman um or that near car that near

29:28 the counter space Cameron Martin that's probably the point hated that car

29:31 salesman yeah Chevy wanted me to pay 2K to fix one wire in the harness of my car

29:36 that was a known defect that kills audio I did it myself for $12 oh my God Ashley

29:41 says I had a good experience but they didn't struggle was your garage sale

29:46 successful yes it was we're going to have another garage sale today never

29:49 have many issues with recurring transmission problem even went to multiple dealerships you know my parents

29:54 SUV um that's stupid you know how the hatch doesn't open yeah that's been

29:58 there since like 6 months after they got it they've never managed to actually fix

30:02 it y okay Mr Jimmy penguin says I have

30:05 okay that was good um fully supported

30:10 the okay infinity dealer at Richmond autal is apparently pretty good they

30:13 always fix it up but the coffee is lousy coffe though 70 bucks for my 30k

30:17 maintenance for free one day yeah okay nope dealerships would kill a rising up

30:21 with bad experiences I'm a kid so this doesn't matter haven't bought a car yet

30:25 are good for getting service done I've gone to private garages for Diagnostics

30:29 and they were way off okay I think that's going to vary a

30:32 lot I think a lot of it too is going to vary between vendors as well too but

30:36 that's I mean this is good for us to know so just because our experience have

30:40 been what they are well we have a very small um use I don't buy new I don't buy

30:45 new vehicles I've been shopping for new vehicles but um I've never actually

30:50 that's another thing bought for myself have you actually dealt with the new

30:53 vehicle salesman though uh yeah oh yeah I was I've only dealt with used car

30:57 sales um when uh when I was shopping for my wife's car we were going to buy new

31:02 and then we ended up not so we we shopped everywhere I I deal I dealt with

31:06 dealers that sold new cars and used cars they weren't just used cars dealerships

31:11 they were like everything dealerships right um so I don't know if that makes

31:14 any difference but yeah I also don't have a huge amount of experience I've bought one car that was from a

31:19 dealership the car that I bought before that was from like just a family friend

31:23 I apologize to whoever I made throw up

31:26 you made someone throw up my with my tummy have you like not ever watched TV

31:31 or gone to a pool or something yeah no apparently apparently threw up guys

31:35 stomachs are like not really a a censored thing I'm just putting that out

31:40 there you must throw up a

31:44 lot that's great moving on all right yeah let's move on

31:48 okay should we have another like this is on almost every week thing talk about

31:53 that no let's do the uh let's do the Amazon smartphone R rumors so this isn't

31:58 confirmed in anyway I'll let you handled this one the Amazon smartphone thing

32:01 yeah I didn't really look over this a ton cuz I didn't really care because

32:05 it's a not confirmed and like what are they

32:08 doing I don't

32:12 know it doesn't make a ton of sense to me the the camera things for gestures

32:17 okay so there's like six cameras or something yeah there's six cameras there's a front and back and there's

32:20 four for gestures yeah that's interesting yep that's definitely

32:25 interesting but I personally I'm not super interested in gestures on my phone

32:30 um I like gestures on monitors we saw that at CES I thought that was

32:35 interesting um gesture control built into monitors I thought that was kind of

32:38 cool especially for touch desktop experiences I could see it helping

32:41 Windows 8.1 or maybe Windows 9 rumors a

32:45 lot because of like uh modern UI or whatever because at a desktop I'm not

32:49 necessarily that close and I don't want to be like touching things all the time

32:53 so I think that's kind of cool but for my phone it's always right there and I

32:57 don't really mind touching the screen I like the tactile feedback so I'm not

33:00 really sure I'm not super interested in that um it's it doesn't have the highest

33:06 end screen the battery seems like super

33:09 lame um I don't know I don't know why they're

33:15 getting into the smartphone market now when it seems like all the hype is going

33:20 down but maybe that is a good time because maybe the shelf life for a phone

33:24 is becoming longer because the the market isn't being as pushed as hard

33:27 yeah and I mean if their whole model is that they're just going to sell you a

33:30 device and then um not really care at

33:34 all if they make any money on it and then instead bundle in their services or

33:38 sell you ebooks or audio books down the line then ultimately what do they care

33:44 as long as it's a reasonably competitive device at a reasonably competitive price

33:48 if you're someone who's deeply entrenched in the Amazon ecosystem which

33:52 is getting easier and easier to do um not for Canadians might make a ton of

33:56 sense yeah not so much for Canadians but all the news we get is so us Centric

34:00 anyway yeah we had I had someone in the twitch chat saying that some of what we

34:04 were saying was offensive he's a car salesman

34:07 and sorry it might not be you maybe

34:11 you're the good one but there's always got to be an exception to prove the rule

34:15 yep and like all I can go on is my own

34:19 experience my yeah my personal experience has not been super great but

34:24 then I have very low amount of personal experience

34:27 all right so moving on to smartphones that may actually be reasonably exciting

34:33 the iPhone 6 so there are renders there

34:37 are maybe leaks we're looking at an

34:41 ultra retina screen with a 379 pixels per inch density totally

34:47 unnecessary did I say 379 cuz I meant 389 that 10 extra pixels is going to

34:53 make all the difference definitely uh uh we could be looking at

34:58 Apple's fastest processor yet A 2.6 GHz

35:02 A8 processor this little render right

35:05 here may not actually be factual at all but the rumors are that it might be as

35:10 thin as 5 and2

35:13 mm which is kind of Berserk so more like

35:17 an iPad Air shrunk down as opposed to um

35:21 more bricky like the previous iPhones um

35:24 we could be looking at two different display sizes 4 and 5.7 in um which is a

35:32 real departure and kind of surprising to me like I would have expected them to do

35:37 something more like the traditional iPhone size and then maybe a 4.7 large

35:42 iPhone I wouldn't have expected them to do a larger iPhone and a and like almost

35:48 a fablet jobs has passed man but the

35:52 thing is okay like if we if we think

35:55 about you know who's using I know you mean like make an option so that all the

36:00 current users that want the same siiz phone can have that option and like I'm

36:03 not trying to generalize based on sex I'm not going to say that women use

36:08 iPhones and men use Android phones well gay apparently uses an iPhone who gay

36:14 gay Ben yeah well okay we'll talk about that later um but what I will say is

36:18 that four people with smaller hands and women would fall into that category I

36:25 also would so I'm not like down on them or anything

36:28 the iPhone is a great option because it

36:31 is smaller but it is still very highend very high spec and very feature rate but

36:35 you've used a bigger phone now yep and you were totally fine with it I'm

36:39 totally fine with it but I went back to using my iPhone 4 not that long ago and

36:44 I was like oh yeah it's really easy to use okay and oh this is actually

36:49 something that isn't on the dock and I didn't talk about last week um Apple

36:52 fixed it the iPhone 4 on iOS

36:56 7.1 Snappy it's not it's not a new high-end device

37:00 or anything but it's way better like you saw it before y it's probably as

37:04 responsible as as responsible as responsive as my like cluttered up HTC1

37:08 at this point for basic stuff I mean it hitches more maybe more like a Moto G

37:13 okay yeah more like a Moto G and that was one of the things that I had mocked

37:17 Apple openly about before was that they were positioning iPhone 4 in markets

37:21 like India as a competitor for Moto G and it was more expensive well now at

37:25 least it has higher build quality and and it's delivering a responsive

37:29 experience yeah because it was kind of a problem oh it was terrible terrible for

37:33 a while AG kind of a really big problem so kudos to Apple for continuing to SP I

37:36 mean this is something that I always have to contrast um against the Android

37:41 experience is I got my iPhone 4 the same time my wife got a Galaxy S Vibrant how

37:47 supported is a Galaxy S Vibrant versus an iPhone 4 and that's that's why I

37:52 always leaned on Nexus devices pretty hard yeah is cuz at least with my Nexus

37:56 S um um I had updates for a really long

37:59 time did nexs ever get kit kat uh I don't think so I think I

38:05 stopped using it before that would have happened so I'm not

38:08 sure apparently there there are ROMs if nothing else uh Kit Kat Android 4.4

38:13 that's through S engine mod uh Android

38:17 maybe someone in the twitch chat can let us know I can't I can't remember I don't follow phones as closely as uh as I do

38:24 lots of other things all right so let's see if there are any more iPhone 6 oh

38:27 yeah there's a couple really cool leaks so two things um the rumor is that Apple

38:33 may be using U so they they put in five patents for liquid metal and um the

38:39 rumors is that it may be used to encase the phone so there's a there's a link to

38:43 the patent here I'm just going to go ahead and fire this up for you guys minus' screen okay that's probably not

38:48 that helpful so there you go basically that that's what at least one of them

38:52 looks like but let's talk a little bit about liquid metal because a lot of

38:56 people are under the uh impression that liquid metal is actually liquid no but

39:02 it isn't at all what liquid metal is is

39:05 more of it's okay it's it's it's strong and its light and it's more to do with

39:10 the ease of working with it and the fact

39:13 that it's difficult to scratch than like

39:17 it being like liquid like you know a

39:20 doorway that you approach and it like you know dissolves as you walk through

39:25 it like it's not like that it's just um the the difference the main difference

39:29 between liquid metal and normal metal is that rather than having a clear melting

39:33 point where we go from solid to liquid

39:37 liquid metal becomes more softer and

39:40 softer and easier and easier to mold and more liquid like very gradually as you

39:45 increase the temperature so this means that you can work with it in a number of

39:49 different ways it also maintains its strength even if you heat it up and cool

39:52 it down so what happens is you can make it super liquid to the point where you

39:57 can cast it which with traditional Metals is not nearly as strong as if you

40:02 were to forge it or work on it in some other way so you can cast it and then if

40:07 you're at a different temperature you can actually mold it so you can create

40:10 very complex shapes another characteristic of liquid metal is that

40:13 it doesn't expand and contract to nearly the same degree as more traditional

40:17 normal Metals do so when you heat it up and do something with it it's not going

40:21 to just contract and deform and and do something stupid so we could be looking

40:25 at some extremely beautiful Innovative designs with liquid metal but beyond it

40:30 being a little bit more difficult to scratch and

40:33 lightweight probably isn't going to make that much of a day-to-day difference and

40:36 they're probably not going to go way off the wall with it either I don't expect

40:40 Apple to come with some like crazy weird liquid metal design that can only be

40:45 achieved by using liquid metal yeah they'll probably honest because Apple's

40:48 design first implementation second so they'll figure out what they want to

40:52 make and then if liquid metal is the easiest way to do it then they'll do it

40:55 I mean they've been experimenting with it for a while back in the iPhone 3G

40:59 days some of the Sim removal trays were

41:02 liquid metal and probably people never

41:05 even thought about it or noticed or knew

41:08 and all they were doing was kind of playing kind of trying it

41:13 yeah yeah you got to wonder how often crap like that goes on you just have no

41:17 idea what you actually yeah that's probably true because we heard so many rumors about it back then it was such a

41:22 big deal for like a little while and then it just never really became a thing

41:25 so it faded away this is really cool I'm going to highlight

41:29 it yes um so the rumor is that we could

41:34 be looking at a sapphire glass screen so to to just explain what Sapphire or

41:39 Sapphire sapphire crystal glass screen whatever you want to call it sapphire

41:43 crystal screen so to be clear a sapphire crystal screen is going to be more

41:47 difficult to scratch than the current weapon of choice Gorilla Glass 3 from

41:52 Corning but Corning actually had a

41:56 conference called earlier this month it was about 2 and a half weeks ago

42:02 where I mean analysts were trying to

42:05 kind of pick at them basically they're trying to figure out what the upcoming

42:09 iPhone will use because Corning would obviously be privy to what kind of glass

42:15 apple is ordering and if they saw a sudden dramatic decline in shipments

42:19 compared to what they normally get when there's an upcoming iPhone then they'd

42:23 kind of figure out okay I guess they're not using Gorilla Glass 3 this time

42:26 around um so what Corning had to say about sapphire glass is that it's about 10

42:31 times the price and yes it is more expensive right now it's a lot more

42:35 expensive and less environmentally friendly to produce due to the energy

42:38 involved and the amount of time it takes to build the large paines of it and it

42:44 is while more scratch resistant not necessarily able to take more pressure

42:49 although one of the things that um the I didn't actually read the entire

42:53 transcript of the call but one of the things the summary didn't mention was

42:57 impact resistance and that's something I think most people would actually be more

43:00 concerned about what than pressure I would be way more concerned about impact

43:04 than pressure what about Impact versus

43:07 scratching probably be more looking at

43:11 the things I've seen happen to iPhones or any other phone I mean or any other

43:15 phone probably impact right because you can kind of deal with scratching but

43:19 when the entire face of your phone becomes in not usable because you

43:22 dropped it from a foot and it just landed at a really weird angle I don't

43:26 know not very cool well at any rate Corning um obviously is going to be

43:32 defensive of Gorilla Glass they did say they have a new Gorilla Glass coming

43:35 sometime in 2014 Gorilla Glass 4 so that'll probably have their

43:40 antimicrobial um the like the agent inte

43:44 saw yeah very cool um so that'll probably have that maybe it'll be even

43:47 stronger and thinner oh they also said that gill glass is lighter I think it's

43:51 something like 60% lighter or something like that um so although with how much

43:55 lighter phones have been getting I don't think that's it's going to be a huge deal here's what Corning said um we

44:00 don't know what kind of glass Apple's using but our forecast is still 30%

44:06 growth blah blah blah blah blah so whatever they're using won't have any impact on our volumes so whatever that

44:12 means that's weird yeah uh the camera on the iPhone 6 is rumored to be up to 13

44:17 megapixels although the actual megapixels are not nearly as important

44:21 as some of the other Innovations we've seen in cameras over the last little while like the Dual LED flashes for a

44:27 more for more balanced skin tone and stuff like that okay ha I called this what yep I

44:35 know what you're going to bring into now I'm not even at the right article but

44:38 it's yep I called this so hard the

44:42 iPhone is or the iPhone the iome is coming Apple just patented A system that

44:46 could put Siri in charge of your home we should have seen this coming I did no

44:52 but like this level of it this looks

44:56 absolutely fantastic fantastic actually to the point where like if some like it

45:01 is not going to come down to Moto 360

45:04 versus Pebble and it's not going to come down to iPhone versus HTC1 it is going

45:09 to come down to whoever can build the best ecosystem that makes it so that

45:13 your life is augmented in meaningful ways and then that watch will go along

45:17 with it and then that you'll buy whatever watch goes with it if I'm if

45:21 the watch that when I'm sitting on my couch being a potato for too long says

45:26 hey you're at like a super low like resting

45:29 heart rate have you even done anything in the last three days get your ass up

45:33 go for a run and then when I get in my car it's like yo dog I said go for a run

45:38 not go for a drive like when we get something that's that intelligent I mean

45:43 a I haven't seen it yet have you seen her who her her the movie yes you have

45:50 yes I have so I haven't seen I haven't seen it yet but like that because I've

45:53 seen trailers is that what you're kind of talking about where it can like converse with you because that's

45:57 essentially what you're just doing even without the conversation even without

46:00 the conversational aspect something that really looks for patterns in your

46:04 behavior and if you give it a set of goals like look I want to be more active

46:09 I want to be more active I want to lose 10 pounds some people aren't going to want you some people won't want that and

46:14 some people will be absolutely terrified by this and if I was smart I would be

46:17 too because this level of of being aware

46:21 of what you're doing and where you are and what you're saying at any given time

46:25 is is is just AB scary but in terms of an enjoyable

46:32 lifestyle if I were to just block it

46:35 from my mind and not worry about the fact that someone else is watching what

46:38 I'm doing um I think it could seriously enhance my life anyway we've got I'm I'm

46:43 excited for this type of stuff um I'm jumping ideas again but like what with

46:48 Google just did where they're encrypting your email all over yeah I was going to

46:52 jump into that topic next for sure yeah so they're they're encrypting your email

46:55 all over the freaking place I'm excited for more personalized style Cloud more

47:02 personalized style services and something like this where maybe you get

47:06 like the Siri box which sits in the closet in your house and just has

47:10 storage and compute and connectivity and everything and then it's all your own

47:15 stuff and it's encrypted everywhere like crazy because

47:19 then the is probably still going to find a way to get it I don't think either

47:24 Apple or Google with the way that they value your information is ever going to

47:28 offer that to you yeah but then they'll

47:31 take it but then no one else okay and you're going to have to figure out which

47:35 one you're okay with having all of your data Apple's got a reasonably okay

47:40 history of privacy protection actually

47:43 yeah like neither of them are super scary Google's becoming more scary yeah

47:48 I was just going to say Google's getting kind of scary lately I I was on the

47:52 Google train pretty hard probably about a year ago maybe a little bit more and

47:57 I've dropped off pretty heavily cuz a a lot of their services are just kind of

48:00 becoming junk just putting that out there they're getting worse not better

48:04 you know what's really funny I've noticed that like half of my calendar

48:08 notifications don't pop up anymore and I'm just like things just seem to be

48:12 getting that's weird things just seem to be getting worse I haven't seen

48:17 something from them in so long I know right oh major Geeks all right so let's

48:21 move into our next topic this is a positive thing about Google though so

48:24 the article is on majorgeeks.com

48:27 this is definitely man I used to love this website I know I used to be on here

48:31 all the time downloading my future marks yeah man yeah man like any game patches

48:36 are always on here yeah dog all right uh

48:39 sorry yeah so like this is definitely Improvement I know I just said

48:43 everything's getting worse but this is definitely getting cutter okay so let's talk about what what's going on here so

48:48 Google Gmail has announced that they are quote quote staying at the Forefront of

48:52 email security and reliability by using an encrypted https connect ction when

48:57 you check or send email the fact that

49:00 the option to turn off https will no longer be available will help users

49:05 thwart the prying eyes of any number of wouldbe snoopers so is this is this like

49:12 is this the transition to the Future where everyone starts to hate government

49:16 and government kind of seems to go away and then it's just like what corporate team are you

49:21 on cuz like in every video game and a

49:25 lot of future Style movies it's always these like giant mega Corps like by and

49:31 large that actually run everything and then like governments either just don't

49:35 exist or just don't matter well you look at how little uh apparently the

49:40 government matters in Ohio because the car dealerships are running Automotive

49:45 legislation so is this the future or was

49:48 it yesterday D yeah I don't know which would be

49:53 funnier if it wasn't actually something that's deeply concerning seriously

49:57 because like and something that we just talked about which is how we were

50:00 talking about how we might be more happy with uh Google or Apple having our data

50:06 than the NSA truthfully yep yeah

50:10 particular particularly Apple I would I would gladly hand over the keys to you

50:16 know like my life to Apple compared to

50:19 if you had to the government yeah if I had to choose if it was if it was like

50:23 gun to your head you pick one I'll hand it to Apple versus someone else because

50:27 Apple has my best interest at heart because they need my money yeah all of

50:33 your money but that's the difference between a government and a company is

50:38 that I have to voluntarily give Apple my money which is yeah that's a big deal

50:42 and that's what drives this corruption in the government is that I have to give

50:45 them my money whether I'm happy with what they're doing or not if I actually

50:48 had to give them my money because I was pleased with what they were doing that

50:53 would be a completely I I suspect we'd see them behave in a much more consumer

50:57 much more populace friendly manner so

51:01 while I'm not while while I don't think that Mega corporations are necessarily

51:06 you know perfect cuz they're not no no

51:11 is would we rather have a mega corporation that calls itself the

51:15 government I mean did you see that recent Scandal over the um shoot what it

51:20 was it Canadian Metals Millions wasted

51:25 I'm going to I'm going to see if I can find it um but like the the Canadian government

51:30 wasted some ludicrous amount of money awarding medals to like members of the

51:34 government for whatever they were doing some guy won like three and refused them

51:39 all because he was like looking at this program going this is absolutely obscene

51:42 how many millions of dollars of taxpayer money did you spend on like patting

51:47 ourselves on the back for doing a good job are you

51:50 insane um wish I could find it right now I I've never heard of this actually but

51:55 that's super yeah I was on the news a little while ago and I just kind of remember watching it and I was just like

51:59 really oh holy

52:02 crap it's kind of depressing I don't know like I can't imagine a company that

52:09 actually has to make its own money doing something that stupid yeah it's not

52:14 going to work or they're going to do I've you know what okay I've seen that

52:18 um challenge coins if you heard of challenge coins you know what challenge coins are like military challenge coins

52:22 and stuff like if you're in a a military

52:25 division possible that they will have what's called a challenge coin challenge

52:29 coins are a very old thing they go really far back when I was in Korea um

52:34 when edzel and I were doing our like Changing of the Guard thing did you hear

52:38 about that or see those pictures I heard you guys told me about it yeah yeah when

52:41 we're doing The Changing of the Guard thing there was a challenge coin ceremony okay to connect the coin or

52:45 whatever but the like more modern challenge coins like say you're a part of the 501 you better explain what the

52:49 hell of challenge coin is I'm probably not the only one who has no idea what you're talking about talk you get some

52:53 sort of coin you can probably Google it really easily you get a coin and then

52:57 it's very specific and if someone asks you for it you have to produce it and

53:01 then it has to match theirs so you know you're a part of the same crew okay um

53:06 obviously there's inherent issues where you could like kill someone and take

53:09 theirs and then be like hey I'm a part of your group but this is like a very

53:12 old system and challenge coins now are

53:15 just kind of like really cool and I know like there's a corporation on Eve that

53:19 got uh a whole bunch of funing together and got their own challenge coins

53:23 because they're they just look amazing uh I wonder if I can find that

53:30 article challenge coin Eve yep if you just Google challenge coin Eve the like

53:35 first thing on there will show the guy and then if you find it somewhere in the comments he has a picture of his and it

53:39 just looks like super cool right um I

53:42 can't remember where I was going for this what were we talking about for challenge points right okay so and I've

53:46 heard of some corporations giving like okay all of the executives give get

53:50 challenge coins but this is like you buy the mold which is like 500 bucks and

53:55 then each coin is like $6 right does not cost a whole bunch of

54:00 money they're not giving like trophies and medals and all this kind of stuff

54:04 and even if they do there's probably some sort of actually really good reason

54:07 behind it and they'll probably do it in a somewhat reasonable and financially

54:11 responsible way I like I like uh cric's

54:15 skills challenge coins please I got doge coins oh oh snap did you even find

54:21 pictures of challenge coins uh no I was I was looking for the stupid award

54:26 medals that were ridiculous I couldn't find them though but like there there's

54:30 reasons to give people awards but you're not supposed to spend all of your money

54:34 on it that's the whole point of giving someone an award is it's not a monetary

54:38 award yeah like you got a Christmas bonus yeah but it wasn't the entire

54:42 profit of the company for 2013 yeah and it's like it's it's supposed to like

54:47 make you happy and drive you to work harder like that's the idea of rewards

54:51 not like here we just spent all of our money I just wanted you to think of me

54:54 when you're not working every time you make food you have to think of me and

54:57 every time I play Wii U

55:00 yep isn't that depressing well I work all the time

55:05 posted by so it's kind of have to yeah I

55:09 don't know so basically it hasn't Chang so even when I'm on

55:15 lunch so Ashley posted on the Forum in

55:18 home streaming beta update March 17th this was posted by

55:23 slen and actually I got an opportunity to chat with with him for about an hour

55:28 on Steam Chat um earlier this week which was really cool and um I found out that

55:34 he's like the main guy who's working on Steam in home streaming we chatted and I

55:40 actually had a really cool experience where he was talking to me about

55:44 something like blah blah blah you know a year ago I was kind of you know thinking

55:48 about this this was percolating in my mind and I was like you know what it's

55:53 funny cuz it must have been about a year ago my co-host in I were sitting in my

55:57 garage talking about um NVIDIA grid and

56:01 how we wanted like a centralized streaming device within our homes that

56:06 would turn anything from a computer like a normal desktop computer to a Raspberry

56:10 Pi into a full-fledged gaming system and I went looking for the article and it

56:14 had been it was one year exactly prior

56:17 because NVIDIA had announced it at GDC the prior the previous year and U like I

56:22 sent him the link to the timestamp within what was before called live

56:26 stream but it's now W show and as he's watching it he's like yeah man you were

56:30 like right on like like way ahead of your time but like imagine this blah

56:34 blah blah like raspberry piie and then like 30 seconds later he gets to the

56:39 point in the video where I'm like blah blah blah raspberry pie imagine you know

56:43 you could have a land just by everyone bringing over like you know their their

56:48 favorite peripherals and like raspberry pies and like boom you're set up and

56:52 like with stuff like Oculus which I wasn't even talking about at the time

56:55 all of a sudden you're displays here all you need is like a game controller and a

56:59 Raspberry Pi and everyone could be running like seriously HD Plus graphics

57:04 on their heads I mean sitting okay tell me this is VR Gaming with a group of

57:10 people socializing okay hold on that might be a

57:14 whole separate topic yeah yeah but anyway they added a bunch of really cool

57:17 stuff so that was a really cool conversation with him super cool guy uh

57:21 he talked a little bit about what it's like working for the almighty Lord and

57:24 Savior gab Ben and uh how you know he like came in like right when he first

57:29 started he's only been there about a year which is really cool yeah he went

57:32 from like not working there to like

57:35 creating one of the headline features of Steam OS in my mind in like a year

57:40 welcome to being a valve employee exactly so he walked into gab Ben's office and he was like yeah this would

57:44 be really cool and gab Ben's like go build it and he's just like oh no I

57:48 don't feel ready yet so he went and worked on TF2 for a couple months and

57:51 then did some work on Steam OS and then like had another conversation with with

57:56 men who he calls Gabe but I feel not

58:00 worthy um so he had another conversation he's like yeah I really want to try this

58:03 and he's like make it so and so he started trying he started out trying to

58:07 prove that inhome streaming wasn't possible and it kept not kept on he kept

58:13 on like fixing it kept not working or kept working yeah the

58:18 disproving kept not working to the point where now we have this very usable

58:22 service and this latest batch of improvements looks pretty darn

58:25 impressive Hardware accelerated encoding via quick sync quick sync isn't the best

58:30 quality encoding in the world but what it is is extremely fast which is what

58:34 you need and on pretty much any Intel processor in the last couple of

58:38 generations as long as you're on a mainstream platform they also added Mouse emulation mode for controllers

58:42 toggled with guide a there were oh see ah see now okay I'm just going to go

58:47 through this list because I talked to him bu about a bunch of other crap that

58:51 like is not on this list and so maybe

58:55 shouldn't Cod want to accidentally talk about anything that's like going to be a

58:58 problem for don't bring that bridge before we get to go to valve yeah yeah

59:02 yeah okay something I did talk to him about is like could we maybe like get an

59:06 invite down there at some point and he didn't promise anything but like he

59:10 really liked our video about in streaming so seriously I think it like

59:15 made his month that's good to have us make that video and like get it and we

59:20 want to do an update just not now necess

59:23 I'll probably wait till it's out of beta um the other really cool stuff that they

59:26 added is a 30 megabit bandwidth option

59:29 which was before the maximum with an unlimited bandwidth option that's been

59:33 increased to 100 megabit so we could be seeing better image quality we wanted

59:38 that that's something we noticed when we were testing um settings to uh enable

59:42 traffic quality of service priority in the advanced host options um honestly

59:46 it's getting better like almost daily that was one of the challenges when I

59:49 was benchmarking it was the and I told him this I was like dude the bloody

59:53 thing was changing while I was trying to test it I I managed to find like two

59:57 days where you didn't do an update and I got my video done and then it updated

60:00 the next day and he was just like like Colon

60:05 D thank

60:08 you work too hard for some reason I signed out of my Google doc anyway in

60:12 home streaming got an update so that was that was the point of all that we can

60:16 stay on the valve idea yeah let's let's ride the valve train to like gaming

60:21 Enlightenment station I'm so free to play I'm finally almost done Portal 2

60:27 finally I thought you said you were finally done portal I thought I was I

60:30 have played like another two and a half hours I thought I was close to the end but I wasn't portals like that though

60:34 yeah portal makes you think you're like done and then it's just like oh nope by

60:38 the way no yeah um so yeah I'm still really enjoying it though it's fantastic

60:43 but I can't start Bravely Default till I'm done Portal 2 I'm determined to finish it first yeah so what valve news

60:49 do you want to do there's actually a bunch yeah I know it's like how much ass

60:54 can we kiss

60:57 you know what okay let's let's not let's not kiss up let's let's do let's do like

61:02 brutal valve news first okay look who doesn't hate Apple the one and only gab

61:07 Ben I don't know why this was okay holding an iPhone and an iPad we don't

61:12 know who this guy is but I just thought this fun some dude on Reddit um I I

61:16 don't know like I just think it's funny Steam Works on Mac I know like they they

61:22 like push Mac support yeah g man openly is hating on Windows lately not OS 10

61:27 and not not Linux that's why I was like why is everyone so surprised oh I just

61:32 well it's kind of like it's kind of funny it's probably not a matter of them

61:35 being surprised as more a matter of the

61:38 internet has like a culture like and

61:42 it's like there's like the internet culture and then there's like the internet Counter Culture you know and so

61:47 the internet culture went on this like apple thing and then like Android became

61:51 the counterculture and then when Android goes mainstream everyone will probably

61:55 want the cool kids on the internet will probably shift to something else and so

61:59 the cool kids on the internet right now ourselves included are all running

62:03 Android and expect that anyone who is a tweaker or like an Enthusiast is going

62:08 to be doing the same thing but he's an Enthusiast about other stuff he's not really a mobile PL I and a lot of game

62:13 developers use apple just throwing that out there like that's a thing um and uh

62:18 but yeah but that's I think why people found it so surprising was because they

62:21 would have expected him to be on whatever sort of the internet bandwagon

62:25 is I just I just personally don't care as long as his desktop that he's doing

62:29 all of his like work for Steam on is

62:33 actually it's not even probably he probably has a Mac so that he can work

62:36 on stuff for Steam on Mac he probably

62:40 has both it's it's gab Ben I fully expect him to have both I don't know I

62:44 didn't think this was that yeah he's worth like over a billion dollars or something so I think if he multiple of

62:48 both if he felt like having a Mac Pro I think it's a non-issue yeah okay uh

62:53 let's get into the new steam controller which is no longer

62:58 interesting still kind of interesting oh come on now we knew exactly what these

63:02 buttons were though which was kind of cool remember we called it out we were like the the ones on the right are going

63:06 to be abxy and the ones on the left are going to be Arrow buttons oh it's going

63:09 to be essentially a d-pad we said that and when they were unlabeled and now

63:12 they're like Boop Arrow buttons make for a terrible d-pad and valves should know

63:17 better that's all I'll say about the design I'll let you launch into what you

63:20 think about it I hate that but no one other than Nintendo has seemingly been

63:24 able to figure out d-pads in the last little while while even Nintendo

63:27 actually the one on the Wii was okay the one on the Wii Moe is actually not bad

63:31 um so like I don't know what's going on there maybe people just suck at making

63:35 d-pads nowadays but I don't know if maybe that has something to do with it

63:38 they don't like the D but I I would still rather a d-pad even if it was kind

63:42 of a crappy d-pad then buttons because it's just weird and I want a d-pad it's

63:47 still different because it has the touchcreen areas and it's still going to

63:51 enable you to play still not sold on those I'm not either um but it's still

63:56 different you know I think I would actually rather some totally janky

64:02 solution like a couchmaster versus being

64:05 stuck gaming with touchpads even if I was playing Civ

64:10 5 when's the last time you had an

64:13 opportunity to game on your notebook and you didn't just go to the extra effort

64:16 to go find a mouse gaming on a touchpad is terrible

64:21 yeah but then like I don't know it's terrible yeah it is

64:26 it's terrible the only reason why I always use the Civ 5 one is like I could

64:30 I could also say XCOM the new XCOM game

64:34 you could probably do it fairly easily with a touchpad but you know what I guarantee it works great with anything

64:39 that isn't a touchpad as well because that's just how that game is set up

64:43 right um so Civ is Civ is really the

64:46 champion for this controller but yeah I don't know I don't care like I'm going

64:51 to play Civ on my desktop because I'm going to be playing with other people

64:54 and then it's going to go so slow that I'm going to Tab out in between turns

64:57 anyways so like so I can do other things so I I don't really see it being that

65:02 big of a deal given valves openness what I would like to see because I I've held

65:06 the controller ergonomically I don't I don't have you know a ton of complaints

65:10 about it um I would like to see someone just adopt their design and get rid of

65:14 the touch pads and throw like joysticks in there because if you were to do that

65:19 and put a proper d-pad on it then all of a sudden now we've got some buttons on

65:22 the back chang everything except for the buttons on the back the thing that goes

65:26 in your palm and the abxy buttons or we

65:30 could all just go back to using SNES controllers because they're clearly Superior to everything else Xbox 360

65:36 Xbox 360 is okay but the d-pad is terrible yeah but you've got thumb

65:39 sticks you got thumb sticks but that's not great for

65:42 platforming for platforming that's all you want screw you I like platforming no

65:47 I play platforms all the time I'm just saying that's all you want to do that's

65:51 literally the only reason why you care I also still use a d-pad for other

65:56 and Okay and like you know what okay the shield I just traded you yeah um has

66:01 kind of a kind of a crappy uh a button

66:05 like it kind of sticks a bit did you notice already a little bit but it's like it's not that bad yeah I know but

66:10 it has a better d-pad than mine it's I

66:13 like the d-pad the d-pad is okay mine's very clicky I haven't played with it a

66:17 lot yet I only played uh one game in for not very long have you tried using gam

66:21 stream on it yet yes oh but your wireless is terrible in your place isn't

66:26 it um yes but I did upstairs there's a

66:30 dlink router in my car I did it like it's an AC dual band router I did it

66:34 close to the router right U when I was doing actual game stream and then I

66:38 ended up just watching a movie on it off my Nest right CU I was like this makes

66:41 sense yep you know what's funny the funny thing about Shield is I think

66:46 people didn't understand what it was and I think that's a lot of the hate people

66:50 were like it's a game console and that's what NVIDIA is pushing but I actually

66:54 disagree and then people were like oh I'd rather

66:57 game on my phone and I went well no this isn't a phone it's a tablet that's what

67:01 it is it's a small tablet and what makes

67:05 it a tablet is not the size of the screen what makes it a tablet is the way

67:09 that it comes with a stand in it that's the funny thing to me about it

67:14 the reason I completely stopped using my

67:17 iPad and started using my shield for everything I used to use my iPad all the

67:21 time almost every day now I use my shield almost every day is because it

67:26 sits on this controller thing yeah that

67:30 that I can like I can put it next to the bath or if I'm cooking it's always got

67:34 to it's always got to stand on it and how you can integrate like uh I haven't

67:38 been a huge push of Shield before but now I've actually had some extended Ed

67:41 with it which is really nice um how they actually integrated using like d-pad and

67:46 abxy buttons in the OS yes is freakishly

67:50 good yeah it's really good like I assumed it was going to be terrible and I was just going be touching everything

67:54 and I started that way and then I just like instinctively pressed B and was

67:59 like what yeah that works the UI is

68:02 really good it's to me it's a tablet it has great speakers so it's great for

68:06 Content watching um and you're not going to use it for uh like phone stuff you're

68:10 not going to phone someone on you yeah exactly so it's not perfect and I'm

68:14 really stoked for shield to like it needs Hardware volume buttons for the

68:19 love everything inidia what is up with that that's true but that's not the

68:22 worst thing it's not the worst it manageable um it needs to be lighter it

68:27 needs to be lots of things I'm not a huge fan of how it sits in your hands

68:30 you know what's funny is I wasn't at first and now that I use it more often

68:36 than I use an Xbox 360 controller the Xbox 360 controller feels kind of cheap

68:40 and crappy to me the shield has a really solid feel I like okay I like the weight

68:45 that's not what I don't like about it and the rubber grip is fine but it's like it's the weird it's just how my

68:50 fingers naturally sit on it is very odd give it some more time I'm going to and

68:55 very recently started using it so I'm going to I I should have given that to

68:59 you like months ago to use just because I talk about it so much it'd be great if

69:02 you had I know I know I just kept not getting around to copying all the data

69:07 off of it I'm basically a terrible

69:11 person um but yeah so far I've been enjoying it a lot wait before we before

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70:14 like I'm seeing more and more people like thanking me on Twitter for drawing

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70:51 can touch and I can use a mouse and keyboard if I want it's nice and snappy

70:57 it's lmedi group.com you guys can all hit it as hard as you want and it will

71:02 not care at all you know what's really

71:06 funny is I don't know if we actually have Squarespace listed as one of our

71:11 sponsors on our site yes we do there

71:15 they are all right so moving on to a sponsor

71:19 that um that we don't actually have listed on the site because we compiled

71:23 that list a long time time ago this is Dollar Shave Club and we've gotten a lot

71:29 of really positive feedback about this one already I've had a ton of people

71:34 message me telling me that okay yep I switched to Dollar Shave Club and it's

71:38 amazing it's awesome I I think most of them probably haven't even gotten their

71:42 initial orders yet oh we did the first integration like a couple weeks ago

71:46 right yeah they could have definitely got yeah they probably have yeah they probably have especially the US guys I

71:50 had some people saying like yeah the the razors are blanking great now I I'll do

71:56 I'll okay like their whole ad I'm going to switch over to my screen here for a

71:59 moment this is a fantastic ad and aside from what I'm saying during the show

72:03 here you guys should definitely watch it because their CEO is kind of a marketing

72:10 genius here so he basically walks through their warehouse talks about how

72:14 they're creating American jobs um they were able to bleep out the swear wordss

72:19 that go with their our blades are blanking great slogan uh talk about sort

72:24 of the the money you can save by switching to Dollar Shave Club versus um

72:28 going and buying razors at the store we talked about this at the beginning of the show but just the fact that there's

72:33 like you know an armed guard next to the replacement razor blades is just it

72:38 creates extra hassle when already I know

72:41 both of the people sitting in this room are just playing too lazy to go to the

72:45 store to buy new razors like okay what I would do is not as bad as you what would

72:51 you do I would like in my first

72:55 integration for Dollar Shave Club I made a joke where like I was using um a

72:58 hobbit replica sting and I was like maybe I can get one more shave out of

73:03 this Elven blade but I would do that as so I instead of having a razor blade

73:08 I've gone I've gone out 500 more shaves

73:12 like instead of using it for a week which is what Dollar Shave Club says

73:15 look use it for a week get a really nice clean shave and next month four more are

73:20 going to show up use them each for a week that is the way it should be done

73:24 the way that I would do it is I would use them for like 3 weeks and then you

73:28 were saying before the show started I I literally don't think I've bought razors

73:32 for a year and I think it was like I don't

73:36 even think I no I didn't buy them my mom got them for me not this Christmas but

73:41 the one before so it's been more than a year it's been like a year and what like

73:45 3 months almost four months it's been about a year and four months um since I

73:50 bought new razors that's disgusting and I just grind them against my face

73:54 because there some amount of metal there and it has some amount of an edge so

73:57 it's just going to eventually pull off all the hair all right so the service is

74:01 available in Canada the US and Australia

74:04 I'm going to go ahead fire up my screen here so for less than $10 a month for

74:09 even the executive which is their premium six blade razor that's like made

74:14 in outer space or something like that I

74:17 mean their marketing is really silly I kind of like these guys cuz they're just

74:21 they they're not too serious about it they're like yeah we have a service and

74:25 and like you know what it's razor blades man like there's only so much we can say

74:29 about it but look they're really good they're really cheap they're really

74:33 convenient because for me the big obstacle was just I didn't feel like

74:36 going and dealing with it so I would have my wife buy them after like the

74:39 three weeks some guy just said um looks at slick I never knew he didn't use

74:43 razors it's like I do man I do actually have to all the time there's a reason

74:47 why this sits here it's cuz it's way too much to deal with if it if I don't let

74:51 it so aside from their razors they have Dr Carver's easy shave butter which I

74:55 actually did try and it works um unlike

74:58 shaving is there an option so you can get like a cheaper set that doesn't have

75:02 the butter yeah okay yeah the the butter is an optional I know some people don't

75:05 use it cuz some people like me and they just shave in the shower yeah but it's

75:08 actually kind of nice because unlike shaving cream it's not opaque so it's

75:12 clear so you can kind of see what you're doing that's actually pretty aw and it softens up the hairs just like kind of

75:16 you'd expect and it smells really nice I don't know if you smelled it you smell

75:20 it yeah smells nice so and it's not like awkward to smell that like the a okay

75:25 cuz I got to bring these up too one WIP Charlie they the ad for this one

75:30 actually was like it was like awkward to

75:33 the point where he's like yeah he gets off a toilet he's like sometimes you

75:37 know you don't have time to jump in the shower and rinse off your butt so we

75:41 made these peppermint scented butt wipes for men one wipe Charlie and I really

75:45 just talking about these makes me feel a little uncomfortable but there you go

75:49 guys Dollar Shave Club bathroom supplies direct to your door once a month we've

75:54 actually had um there's someone walking by outside who's listening to me talk

75:58 about butt wipes for men and that's a little bit awkward but the point is

76:03 we've had over a hundred of our viewers already sign up for Dollar Shave Club so

76:07 chicken or dog and she was just staring out the window when he said butt wipes

76:11 from in okay okay I'm sorry yeah we got a

76:14 bunch of we got a bunch of people did I even tell you that yeah yeah like we've had over a hundred people sign up and

76:19 everything I've seen from people has been super positive so far so guys I

76:22 would love for you to drop me a line on Twitter and let me know any one of our

76:26 sponsors that you decide to use whether it's Hotspot Shield um oh Hotspot Shield

76:30 has a design our new slogan contest they're running on Facebook right now uh

76:34 you guys should probably check that out Facebook Hotspot Shield design slogan or

76:40 something like that or come up with our new slogan is the thing that they're

76:43 that they're running right now so whoever it is we'd love to hear from you

76:46 guys that you're using it and that it's great and we'd also love to hear from

76:49 you that you're using it and it sucks yeah because we have the inside track

76:53 with these companies and if they're doing something that's making you unhappy a we don't want sponsors that

76:58 are making our viewers unhappy and we will cut them off if there is a problem

77:02 seriously we will cut them off and number two is because we're able to

77:06 bring your problem to their attention we can get it resolved for you pretty quickly most of the time so we'd love to

77:11 hear from you guys about that all right we had such a good rapport of people

77:16 around here I know and now they're going to be like they talk about butt wives in

77:20 their house what are they doing in there

77:25 wiping our butts what do you not wipe your butt that should be not going to help

77:29 things that should be our retort like do you think wiping your butts

77:35 gross oh God what's our next topic uh we

77:38 can do do we want to finish off the valve stuff yeah let's finish off the

77:42 valve stuff we don't have much longer on the show here I kind of went tangental

77:46 today yeah people that's all right yeah I guess as long as we do it okay then

77:50 it's all right all right valve's new film free to play is a bid to legitimize

77:54 professional Gamers post on the Washington Post you watched it right I

77:57 did watch it and while I think the angle

78:02 from the I'm GNA stop you who should watch it I honestly I'm going to send it

78:07 to my mom and dad I had a little bit of boats with this when I was younger and I

78:12 think my mom can relate to certain things that happened so I think my mom

78:15 will appreciate the movie I think my dad will just kind of find it interesting

78:19 because he's always come to packs with us and stuff even though he's not a huge

78:22 gamer he likes being with the group and

78:26 he it he canate it um but Gamers now

78:32 it's it's about DOTA right very

78:35 specifically it's about DOTA I don't really play DotA yeah go figure it's

78:40 they don't try to hide that that's one thing that I found in the Washington Post thing was that they're like oh my

78:44 God it's about DOTA and I'm like it's a documentary about DOTA out yeah good job

78:49 anyways sorry I'm going to rant more about that later but it's like you don't

78:53 have to necessarily appreciate or like DOTA to appreciate and like this

78:59 documentary I don't really play DotA much or ever at all and I don't really

79:05 watch it too much either um and I really enjoyed it okay really really enjoyed it

79:10 and I'm not a huge DOTA fan now that being said I used to be really big into

79:15 uh League of Legends and I was a bit into DOTA one and stuff like that and I've kind of dropped off I don't play

79:18 any mobas anymore right um that's just a personal thing I burn myself out I play

79:23 them way too much I have like hundreds and hundreds of hours in a few of them

79:26 so I'm just like okay I'm pulling off a little bit playing other things like I might jump back in the future I'm just

79:30 not that into it now pulling off or pulling out oh man I knew you were going to go there um but it's still really

79:36 interesting it covers some really interesting stuff and one thing that I really appreciated was while it is a

79:41 documentary about valve about DOTA they

79:44 didn't just thump the hammer the whole time they actually went into like these

79:48 are problems thump the hammer what does that even mean I was going to say drum but then I said Hammer it just didn't

79:52 work the ham cuz it would be like pound the drum you know that was the whole

79:56 point thump the drum wouldn't even be right it's close it it with a brick go

80:00 ahead anyways um so it it was

80:04 interesting to see like okay these are all the problems that these players have actually gone through and these are the

80:08 issues that they're having trying to be professional Gamers it's not easy

80:12 they're not making much money like it brought up all these problems like

80:16 despite it being a million dooll tournament a lot of them really didn't

80:19 make enough money to make a million dollars yeah no like and that was a

80:23 really interesting angle that they came around and it it it seemed more like a

80:27 push to legitimize gaming in general instead of being an advertisement while

80:32 still being a documentary by Valve about DOTA which I found really interesting

80:36 and coming from an angle where I'm not super interested in Dota much more

80:40 interested currently in Counterstrike another valve title but there was nothing in here about Counterstrike um

80:46 still super interesting okay so I I appreciate if you're into gaming on a

80:51 professional level at all like if you like watching professional gaming if you

80:55 like any of that kind of stuff or even if you're just a gamer I could see this being very interesting um and you don't

81:01 have to be very well versed to appreciate the film they explain

81:05 everything so I wouldn't worry about that either like I can show this to my

81:08 mom and she'll get it and it'll be fine one man Pizza says if you liked free to

81:12 play Go Google the Smash Brothers or the

81:15 Smash Bros apparently it's a really good uh gaming documentary as well yeah indie

81:19 game the movie is really good uh I watched that that was really good yeah

81:23 indie game the movie is great uh so these are those are all really

81:27 interesting things to check out um The Washington Post bringed up a few things

81:31 the Andrea Peterson was saying that it's an extended commercial an effective

81:35 extended commercial but definitely an extended commercial and they go through

81:39 the thing talking about how like they brought up they followed cliche

81:43 characters and I'm like it's a documentary man they call they followed

81:46 like captains of teams where do you think cliches come from and like it's

81:51 it's one thing too because um up with

81:55 friends that were trying to do it and myself trying to do it and like people that were wildly more successful than I

81:59 was and all this kind of stuff like we all went through this stuff so you're

82:04 wrong people from Washington Post it's really good that they covered that

82:08 because this legitimately happens your parents will be against you that being

82:12 said at the very beginning my parents were and then once they started to see

82:15 how into it I was they were totally

82:18 welcoming and happy about it um but definitely not everyone's are and they

82:23 covered that in this movie which really interesting I if if my son was like yeah

82:27 I'm going to be a Pro Gamer dad I'd be like no you're not like and these these

82:31 are things that should be covered and were covered and were really interesting

82:34 and they show like um the one guy's mom

82:37 being like this is really dumb like to his face in the documentary right and

82:42 I'm like that's good that should have been in this documentary and they're

82:46 like oh we didn't necessarily see that it's just really like cliche characters

82:49 and stuff and I'm like shut up that totally exist it's a documentary like

82:53 they should cover that stuff and they're like yeah they spent so much time looking at the different players and I'm

82:57 like thank you that's what I wanted to see they showed little Snippets from the

83:01 matches and a lot of the time it sometimes it was an actual clip from the

83:05 match and sometimes it was just like super heavily animated right and not

83:09 like actually the stuff from the match which I think actually helped it be

83:13 watchable by people that aren't super interested in Dota 2 I would have not I

83:17 would have been able to follow it just fine if there was more footage from the matches cuz I understand Dota 2 but not

83:22 everyone can and being able to show it to my mom that helps a lot right um and

83:26 like having one-on-one interviews with relatives right was really interesting

83:31 of the players and stuff like that like going heavily into their back stories

83:35 because it's a really difficult thing to get into it's incredibly difficult to

83:39 get into and they bring up the thing where like you're not going to be a Pro Gamer Beyond

83:43 29 right because your your reaction time is going to be too low and like the main

83:48 thing people usually think about that in is stuff like Counter-Strike but that

83:51 applies to pretty much everything and of course there's exceptions to the rule

83:54 but there's not very many right well just like teimo salani is still playing

83:57 hockey the guy's like 42 like there's exception but like one guy yeah yeah

84:03 yeah that's it so like it's it's interesting the stuff they bring up and

84:07 it's it's honestly it's a great documentary I've got a few people upset

84:10 that I would tell my son no you're not going to be a Pro Gamer um well I would

84:14 also tell my son no you're not going to be a professional football player

84:18 because in the real world you're

84:21 probably not if he's willing to fight

84:24 through the adversity of me telling him he's an idiot for trying then he stands

84:28 a chance if he's going to be his son he's going to have to fight through that kind of stuff yeah so I don't know

84:34 honestly like is that uh is that you know a correct parenting tactic oh I

84:39 don't know probably not I don't care um the reality of it is if you're not

84:43 willing to you know if you're not willing to fight for something that you

84:47 believe in and you're not passionate about passionate enough about to get

84:52 past you know your your your parents not caring about it you will not succeed

84:57 anyway I'm sorry no it's true uh that's very true and they cover that in the

85:00 documentary they show how much crap these guys have to go through and trust

85:04 me even the people that they didn't cover were going through that stuff um

85:08 no one's parents are going to go this is a very good career move don't go to

85:12 school play games all day you'll be successful I don't see anyone's parents

85:16 really doing that I can see parents going my mom and dad's wrote which was

85:21 pursue other things yeah but if you want to do this as as much as you want in

85:24 your free time go ahead and they'll support me with that that was fantastic

85:28 my parents did in my opinion a very good job right I appreciate that a lot um but

85:33 they also were kind of pushing like make sure and this is something I really

85:36 appreciated too and I still apply is don't necessarily lock yourself in with

85:40 one thing you need to have an exit strategy that's important I had someone

85:44 else ask um well lonus would you uh tell your kid not to be a tech YouTuber

85:49 absolutely what are the odds like what are the odds of su if anything the odd

85:54 odds of success being a professional Tech YouTuber are probably lower than

85:59 the odds of being a Pro Gamer at some level who is actually making a full-time

86:04 job out of being a tech YouTuber there's not very many like I can count them on

86:08 one hand probably like who is actually full-time Logan me Marcus

86:15 Austin uh El you're not counting the team component though I'm not counting

86:21 okay I'm not counting the team component okay okay so fine I could probably count

86:25 like the the lead guys that are like running Tech YouTuber companies maybe on

86:29 both hands cuz there's Detroit Borg I don't know if he does it fulltime and

86:32 there's there's like some other guys but even looking at Lou from unbox therapy

86:36 is another one so even looking at like a collab that he's planning a lot of the

86:40 guys participating are like still students and stuff like they're not

86:43 actually trying to turn this into a viable business yet even I mean even

86:47 Marcus is still a student yeah and like he's making enough money that he could

86:51 go full-time if he felt like it but he's not even he's one of the most successful

86:55 ones out there and he's not even banking on it and he's doing the backup strategy

86:59 thing the Ed strategy thing where if it fails there's an option I think that's a

87:03 really good point and I mean people would ask me this all the time before I went before I went independent and

87:09 people would say oh I want to be a tech YouTuber just like you and I'd say I'm

87:12 not a tech YouTuber I have a real job I'm a product manager that's an actual

87:17 job I do this Tech YouTube thing because it's like super fun and it's exciting

87:21 and I really enjoy it and I'm passionate about it and that is my point my parents

87:26 don't have a bloody idea what I do they have no idea they have never once bought

87:32 a video game or a piece of okay no no

87:36 they did they did upgrade our 386 to a

87:39 486 but that wasn't for like for like gaming or Hardware passion or anything

87:44 they've never actually bought me a piece of computer hardware want to be real

87:48 clear about that my parents have my parents did my the closest I got was my

87:53 uncle UPG his computer and I built his new computer for him and he gave me his

87:57 old computer as like like an attab boy

88:00 and this was a Pentium 1 166 mehz when Pentium 4S were on the market when I to

88:06 be clear when I pieced out my first computer I paid for it all but I when I

88:10 when I pieced it out my dad and I went to go pick it up and the the sales guy

88:14 was like do you have a monitor and I was just like

88:18 uh no Chrome monkey is bringing up some people who are not entirely YouTubers uh

88:23 Ryan Shrout is not a YouTuber like he he does YouTube videos and you can tell him

88:28 I said that quote lonus out of context Ryan Shrout is not a YouTuber uh but he

88:33 runs pcper pc.com is his bread and

88:37 butter that's a like a website that's web journalism as opposed to Dad I want

88:42 to be a tech YouTuber it's more than two hands it's but he's using

88:46 a what it's more there's more than two hands okay yeah okay fine there's more

88:51 than however many hands worth but the ones doing it strictly on YouTube I

88:55 don't know well if you include like are

88:58 you talking about just PC Hardware cuz Tech YouTubers okay Tech

89:02 YouTubers yeah there's probably tons of them yeah even then the odds are slim

89:06 and I wouldn't be a big fan of it if he was like yeah that's my master plan I'm

89:10 going to be like a tech YouTuber be like you got to have a real plan first

89:15 like have a plan for a 9 to-5 and then if you like if you like make it it's

89:20 kind of like professional athletes you know what the V majority of them go to

89:25 school and participate in School athletics and then make it that's

89:30 something too is like I I've my my brother does Starcraft casting locally

89:33 right so i' I've talked to some of the guys locally that are really good one of

89:37 them um who's like an awesome dude fire

89:40 Zerg I follow him around a little bit he's actually really good yeah um and

89:44 like a few of the other guys that they hang out with and stuff they go to this UBC Starcraft club right UBC University

89:51 of British Columbia Starcraft club they're all kids that are going to UBC

89:55 and also enjoy playing Starcraft and some of them are really good and could

89:58 probably make it professionally but are also going to UBC yeah so have a backup

90:03 plan I guess is the main point of thisly crap we could almost do I we we got

90:08 sidetracked today we could almost do a whole other show on like some of this

90:12 stuff in here yeah we went from not enough topics every week to like way too

90:17 many yeah H new CPUs from Intel okay

90:21 we're going to have to like Blitz this stuff you guys

90:24 so Intel's looking at doing an unlock God we haven't done any VR yet I know we

90:28 have done none of the VR and none of the improvements to direct X12 and openg GL

90:34 like we're screwed okay guys we're going to have to just Blitz this stuff

90:37 unlocked Pentium 20th anniversary edition uh we're going to be getting an

90:40 8 core core i7 extreme and and Intel is

90:44 talking about fixing the thermal interface material issue that they've

90:47 had with some of their processors giving you better temperatures and hopefully

90:51 improved overclocking personally I'm not expecting it to make a big differ

90:54 but the fact that Intel is listening to the Enthusiast community and addressing

90:59 it is a really good sign cuz they've basically come out and acknowledged like

91:05 kind ofing for a little while we've done some kind of crappy stuff and have not

91:09 acknowledged it at all so now we're getting a proper Enthusiast grade SSD

91:13 we're getting an eight Core Extreme Edition we're getting fixed thermal interface material it's like they're

91:18 listening to us and that's extremely exciting yay and thumbs up all right

91:24 Source here directex 12 that needs to start working there we

91:28 go all right direct X2 this is from NVIDIA's blog where the main notes here

91:34 and I'm just going to cut you guys off my screen so I can cheat and go back to

91:37 my notes um will be delivered sometime this year with enough time to see

91:41 shipping titles holiday 2015 forsa five

91:45 was already ped ped ped it was ported

91:48 from the Xbox One to the PC with DirectX 12 in four man months that's not bad you

91:54 could have four Dudes working on it for a month four Dudes or women whatever I

91:58 meant like dudes like people um not trying to I try not to be

92:03 sexist um so wom computers is becoming a bigger and bigger thing I know I know

92:07 and like that's good that's like great and I don't want to seem like you know

92:13 male chauvinist women can't you know code CU they can better than me my one

92:18 of my tutors when I was going to school was a a female and she's the best tutor

92:21 I've ever had that's like saying something racially sensitive being like

92:24 one of my friends is a black guy though not really okay it's not the same

92:29 thing at all

92:33 no okay that would be like me saying the insensitive thing and being like but I

92:38 know like one female coder so it's okay but I know a whole bunch like I know

92:42 what time okay anyway the point is uh fors of 5 was ported from Xbox One to PC

92:46 with directx12 in four people

92:49 months with big performance improvements direct X1 relied predominantly on one

92:55 CPU core to do the bulk of the work and it was able to distribute things a

92:59 little bit but we've had multi CPUs multi-core CPUs for years Microsoft I'm

93:05 glad that you're doing this now but I wish the Sleeping Bear had woken up a

93:09 little bit earlier and not waited for AMD to put all this work into mantle

93:14 which is basically in my mind a wasted effort at this point oh okay not wasted

93:18 effort mantle looks like a dead project to me but the fact that we're able to

93:24 get this Improvement in the industry with Microsoft improving DirectX giving

93:30 the developers more bare toetal sort of

93:33 ability to program for the gpus uh giving the developers the ability to

93:37 dramatically scale the number of draw calls um reducing the driver overhead

93:42 significantly and spreading it out over multiple CPU cores this is all in my

93:47 mind either a result of mantle or a result of Microsoft kind of looking at

93:52 what AMD was planning to do and going oh crap if the API isn't like direct X

93:58 anymore then like why would people game on Windows

94:01 uhoh and I'm glad that they're finally waking up and that they completed a goal

94:06 AMD said for a long time if if they ran away from this and maybe so the mantle

94:10 doesn't have to exist it's okay yep and they did say that I wasn't sure if they

94:14 were truthful about that but they said it that's true but they yeah regardless

94:19 they said it so so direct X12 could be leveraged on the Xbox One Windows mobile

94:24 but Microsoft has neither confirmed nor denied whether it will come to Windows 7

94:29 yeah I really wanted to please I don't

94:32 want to move up I'm completely happy with my we could be looking at orders of

94:36 magnitude better performance in some ways yeah we'd have to change over every

94:39 like like draw calls would be 10 to 100 times improvements in performance and

94:45 this is really exciting hardware-wise it's coming to any gcn AMD card however

94:51 we've noticed that just because something to every gcn card 7,000 series

94:56 all the way up to the newer stuff doesn't mean it actually works that well

94:59 on it yeah um so just throwing that out there and there's actually a fairly

95:03 noticeable difference between gcn1 and gcn 1.1 so there you go and it's coming

95:08 to every DirectX capable NVIDIA GPU so

95:11 that's fery Kepler and Maxwell AMD hasn't said anything about 5,000 series

95:16 or 6,000 series but I would I would expect that's not going to be coming all

95:20 right open GL improvements here we go Bo boom uh from

95:25 the NVIDIA blog if you want to get a developer's attention all you need to do

95:29 is start dropping whole numbers great

95:32 Point Adrien or ASU sorry how did I read

95:35 Adrian wow I got my eyes no

95:38 idea just read the A and then just made up the

95:42 rest that's all I need that's like skim reading to a

95:47 completely new level all right so an unlikely team of presenters got together

95:53 at GDC this I got a kick out of this but

95:57 Intel AMD and NVIDIA really weird I know right hosted

96:03 a session on openg and how openg current

96:07 modern openg could be used to reduce driver overhead to near

96:13 zero improving performance 1.3 times

96:17 like easily and then up to 7 to 15 times

96:21 with some optimization that is extremely exciting and unlike DirectX which was

96:25 like yeah it could work on like Windows phone openg can work on whatever you

96:31 want so we're talking any mobile platform pretty much any desktop

96:35 platform any I don't know you could probably run it on a toaster if you

96:39 really felt like it so openg GL is extremely exciting and while on the

96:43 desktop the performance I know the performance improvements are going to be

96:47 really important on mobile the improvements in battery life because

96:51 it's much more efficient to build multi CPUs then High performing

96:55 single-threaded CPUs the improvements in battery life on mobile that we can that

97:01 we can achieve by leveraging openg as a

97:04 as a way to reduce overhead and as a way to utilize more cores is extremely

97:08 exciting all right let's move on to the Snowdrop engine Holy balls this thing

97:13 looks outstanding so there's a video which

97:17 basically everyone should just go watch this is on hexus.net but this thing

97:21 looks amazing and the main points here

97:24 to take away are that they've created a way of working with the engine that like

97:30 obviously it's not this simple but in the demo they're just like dragging and

97:33 dropping things and like drawing lines to connect um different elements like

97:38 actions as well as objects and events

97:41 and uh basically the idea is aside from

97:45 looking absolutely amazing let's see if I can find the part with the burning

97:48 buildings because it just looks so good

97:51 like look at the cityscape where's the burning building I want the

97:54 burning building I don't have enough time for this crap literally we're already over

98:00 time I know people got to go home they

98:03 get to their families they might already be home whatever there's a car with lights on it that's kind of like

98:07 building good enough we'll settle for that all right so what do we got going

98:10 on here I go back to my notes because

98:14 there's a lot of stuff I don't remember system so the yeah okay so nodeb

98:18 scripting system allows all objects and actions to be connected allows the artist to focus on creativity rather the

98:23 mundane tasks it'll be available first in Tom Clan's the division later in 2014

98:28 and this was really cool also in the video it allows easy experimentation and

98:32 testing of whatever is being worked on so the video shows patterns being

98:36 altered with just like a slider on the side of a helicopter and like a little

98:40 robot just like walking around in a test environment where you can like put stuff

98:43 for it to step on and you can test it and look at how it's going to work

98:47 unity5 has been announced moving on to the next thing this is from Tech crunch

98:52 I'll jump in once we better lighting better audio and early support for

98:56 plugin free browser games wow really

99:00 cool really cool wow okay I'll let you

99:03 cover this um okay so what I was really expecting when I saw this and lonus

99:08 probably remembers me saying this is uh not surprised on the timing because this

99:13 coming out and unity being such a big force in the VR scene with oculus I

99:17 assumed it was going to tie in something really heavily with oculus but it

99:21 actually seems the main thing are the web stuff so plug-in list support for

99:27 browsers um like early access web GL

99:30 support like all this kind of stuff audio systems lighting stuff like that

99:34 all being brought into Unity which is really cool because Unity is such a heavy hitter when it comes to Indie

99:38 Games and then allowing them all to access this kind of stuff is very cool

99:42 obviously this is also going to go to Oculus and people have been talking

99:45 about how while this is very cool a lot

99:49 of this was actually able to be brought in if you were like a really technical

99:53 user you could apply all this stuff yourself with mods and whatnot but this

99:57 is now easily done by anyone so that's actually really important in my opinion

100:02 um there's also a video of new features for Source 2 which is really cool um and

100:07 then we should probably move on already Revan Stig says shut up about Oculus oh

100:12 that ain't happening no the mantle and true audio

100:17 patch for thief has been released I got to wonder how many of the

100:21 people who cared about Thief have already watched or already played it

100:25 yeah I you know I did I tell you I stopped

100:28 completely after I got the benchmarking run I just quit because I was like the

100:32 audio in this game is too messed up for me to care going to wait well at least

100:36 true audio may help things so Tom's Hardware actually has some benchmarks of

100:42 uh Thief running with true audio and mantle I haven't looked at these yet so

100:46 so that's interesting butm let's have a look theme frame rate

100:51 lowest detail preset why we been looking at this okay normal details here we go

100:56 normal so here's directex versus manle oh we're looking at some pretty

100:59 significant improvements so here's a 270 which um it's not even a super high

101:05 powerered graphics card and an 8350 which is a pretty decent CPU and we're

101:09 looking at like wow like 30% Improvement in performance oh of minimum but that's

101:15 the most important thing anyway minum okay yeah I was like that seems very low

101:19 for a really weird reason makes no sense no I was looking at minimum FPS that's

101:23 pretty impressive um positional audio was just completely broken in the game

101:27 but it may actually be fixed now you should give it a shot May that's what I wanted to bring up with this is I'm I'm

101:31 probably going to try it again now because positional audio is brutal before there could be someone two floors

101:36 below you walking around and he sounds like he's exactly beside you on the same

101:40 level I like what is this because the way the game was always supposed to work

101:44 was with um shoot now I forget what it's

101:47 called convoluted Reverb so that means that audio was supposed to be like

101:52 dynamic IC and real time and like instead of being a scripted or like um

101:59 you know pre-done effect like when someone's

102:03 underwater like it was supposed to just the the the audio was just supposed to

102:07 like bounce off stuff in a natural way and so it was like completely broken out

102:12 of the gate but now with true audio AMD users who happen to be running like

102:17 three different cards um can use their Hardware DSP to accelerate the true

102:23 audio convoluted Reverb stuff but don't worry guys you can still use it you can

102:27 just offload it to your CPU um those performance improvements noted on

102:32 certain resolutions like uh what is it yeah 4 4770k with a 270x and I believe

102:38 it was 1440p got like a 1 FPS Improvement right so I it's like this is

102:44 the same story that we talked about before where it really matters on the

102:48 whole combination of your setup how well it's going to work out for you right um

102:52 but yeah anyways moving on all right uh

102:56 do it all right so Project Morpheus um I'm G to jump on specs real quick and

103:00 then jump on things that aren't specs after that so it's going to be a 1920 by

103:04 1080 screen I'm going to do a bunch of verses here at the beginning so 1920 by

103:08 1080 screen and I'm going to compare this to development kit 2 from Oculus so

103:13 I'm comparing the spec out probably

103:16 release version of Morpheus with the current developer version of oculus not

103:21 the release version of oculus cuz we have no idea so 1920 x 108 screen on the

103:25 release version of Morpheus and 960 by

103:29 1920 per eye on the Oculus one uh

103:32 Morpheus will have a 90° fov and the dev

103:36 kit 2 for Oculus is going to have 100 degree fov um you're going to be able to

103:41 integrate your PlayStation camera and PlayStation move to take in part uh

103:45 skeleton movement from the camera and like hand movement from the move or whatever like that which is actually

103:49 really cool um because that's stuff that isn't like first party support from Ulus

103:53 at least well the camera is but like you're going to have to get like a Hydra

103:58 or um I can't remember the name of it but that other six a no not six axis

104:04 that was the hydro the two Hand one no but the the other thing that's coming out that looks like handles made by the

104:10 same company that does that made Hydra for them I can't remember I don't

104:13 remember what it's called but that thing that's not out yet or something like

104:16 that which could be really expensive um it's going to be a 5-in panel it's going

104:20 to be used HDMI and USB but they have been corded hopefully won't be a thing

104:24 it'll hopefully be Wireless at some point so that could be on release we're not sure yet uh it's going to be a 5 in

104:29 panel now we're going to get into some quotes problems with these quotes before

104:32 I even say them they're both from people at Oculus these are the main quotes I

104:36 found so far they're obviously going to be negative because they're people from

104:39 Oculus that being said Sony has approached Oculus and is trying to work

104:43 together with them so that's a rumor that's a rumor allegedly so there's um

104:47 I'm hold on I'm gonna find it because I've got it in the dock here sure I'm just so there's a post on Reddit where

104:53 um here it is so guys I'll post this in

104:56 the I'll post this in the chat so you guys should check this out after but it's basically just saying okay

105:01 allegedly Sony and Oculus may be looking

105:04 to work together on VR game development because Sony's solution isn't going to

105:09 work on a PC and Oculus solution isn't going to work on a console so there's no

105:15 real competition between them from a hardware perspective they might as well

105:18 enable game developers to have a larger platform to launch their games on which

105:22 is why e Valkyrie while it's an exclusive for Oculus is also an

105:28 exclusive for Morpheus it's an exclusive for both of

105:33 them which is really interesting and shows kind of a a backbone behind just

105:38 like our relationship is exclusive oh God yes it is um so those quotes as we

105:43 jump into it now is John carac saying calibrate PS4 VR expectations a game

105:48 that ran at 60 FPS on PS3 could be done in VR on

105:53 PS4 um but it's gonna have to have run at 60 FPS on PS3 so it have to be a

105:59 1080p game at 60 FPS on PS3 to be able to run on Project Morpheus that's from

106:04 John carmac John carmac has extremely high expectations whenever it comes to

106:07 anything to do with displays and he's on Oculus his team which no matter what you

106:12 think about platform usability they're still competitors he just kind of says

106:16 whatever he wants though he does he totally does so I don't know I think I

106:20 personally think he has a really good point but bar bear in mind that it's

106:24 each side of the fence another quote this is coming from um Palmer like CEO

106:29 of oculus and this is fairly old actually uh consoles are too limited to

106:33 do what we want to do so if you're looking at a VR perspective and one of

106:37 the biggest Pioneers in that industry and they're saying this thing is too limited to be able to do it now one of

106:41 the reasons behind that quote actually was um the platform being very locked

106:46 down you can't like upgrade graphics on a PlayStation um and that was actually a

106:51 lot of the reasoning not NE neily that it's currently not powerful enough blah

106:54 blah blah blah blah um that being said every single demo that I have played I

106:58 have not played e Valkyrie on an Oculus yet and they're saying that it's going

107:02 to work on Playstation anyways so I don't know what to say about that but every demo that I've played on an Oculus

107:06 would easily run on a PS4 that being said a lot of them are kind

107:11 of tech demos so far showing how it

107:14 works not supposed to be fully-fledged games so we'll see that more in the

107:18 future uh they have a bunch of really interesting Partners like epic games

107:22 krych Autodesk unity and more and they're also going to be showcasing

107:26 things like demos of Eve and Eve Valkyrie sorry and Thief so that's

107:30 actually really interesting um funny story the demo was

107:35 running on a uh Windows 7 PC and that's

107:39 like I mean this is just typical we're not surprised yeah this happens every

107:43 bloody time there's a new console refresh or whatever else it happens with

107:46 XBox exclusive games it happens with PlayStation exclusive games which aren't

107:50 supposed to be able to run on PC and they're running on a PC that makes me so

107:53 mad it's like you already have the PC version just releas it um but yeah so

107:59 like that actually wasn't surprising at all but it's still funny to joke about

108:02 another thing that happened this week was what I was kind of just talking about was oculus rift development kit 2

108:07 came out and everyone in their mom bought one so in 36 hours why is my

108:11 notes gone on this there it is 12.5 th000 units sold in 36 hours that's

108:16 4.375 million of Revenue and they

108:19 haven't even actually released a commercial product yet yeah so I'll get it the commercial product thing soon so

108:24 more specs on this I already talked about some of it just to give you a refresher it's 960 by1 1920 per I 100

108:30 100 degree fov and now refresh rates they've made the refresh rates a lot

108:34 better that's wrong why is this

108:37 changed um I'm like sure that's wrong

108:40 but you want to check the ref I'll check it real quick

108:45 sure this is your baby man yeah why was

108:48 that changed anyways um it's luckily I

108:52 recognized is that it's up to 75 HZ running at 75 72 or 60 HZ refresh rate

108:57 which is really interesting that actually makes a surprisingly big difference yeah um my 30-in monitor my

109:03 305t I wasn't able to like crazy overclock it or anything to like you

109:08 know 100 Herz or whatever but I did remember we went through this I managed

109:12 to get it running at like 72 MH and it

109:15 makes a really big difference Y and especially when things are that close to

109:19 your face any amount of latency or lag is really no

109:23 um so that is supposed to help a lot I haven't tried it yet um but who knows

109:29 low persistence so we're looking at 2 milliseconds 3 milliseconds or full

109:32 which is going to be really interesting that's coming in with the OLED display

109:35 being able to switch on and off so that there isn't a frame sitting there for a

109:39 really long time this comes in again any amount of latency or lag is very

109:42 noticeable when it's that close to your face and when you're when you're that uh

109:47 when the presence is that high when you're that in gr ingrown in this thing

109:51 if there's any amount of latency it feels really weird your brain is going

109:54 to have issues with that so that's probably going to help it as well uh

109:58 it's going to have a gyroscope accelerometer and a magnom meter which

110:01 is not super surprising and a built-in latency tester which is actually really

110:04 cool so this is going to be U motion to

110:07 to to uh pixel essentially so you better

110:11 explain exactly what that means so if you move and there's supposed to be

110:15 Motion in the game how long does it take for that to actually appear on the

110:18 screen because that's going to feel really weird and that's going to really

110:22 disconnect you from The Experience if you go like this and it takes a few

110:26 seconds and it's like and that's the main reason why people liked Oculus

110:30 already was a lot of VR experiences in the past had this issue where you turn

110:34 and then it would catch up and it would kind of like this actually happened

110:38 where you you'd turn and then it would go like past your vision because it's

110:41 predicting and then it would like slot back you turn it just did this thing all

110:45 the time um so that was already really good and now it's supposed to be a lot

110:49 better so that's going to help a lot um there's there's the external camera

110:53 which we saw in Crystal Cove so it has tracking ireds all across the front now

110:57 there's problems with this um and this has been voiced by a lot more people

111:01 than just me but especially in games like uh Valkyrie if you want to flip

111:06 over in Valkyrie so you go like this and

111:09 there's tracking IR LED camera sitting right in front of you and you take all

111:13 those IR LEDs and go nope you can't see them anymore there's probably going to

111:18 be issues I've played roller coaster games where I've done a 180 in my chair

111:21 the camera can no longer see my my irls

111:25 there's there's going to be some interesting stuff with this and that comes into a quote from pmer saying DK2

111:32 development kit 2 is really for developers it not for consumers we don't

111:36 need consumers to buy this we don't want consumers to buy this because the

111:40 consumer version is really going to be so much

111:44 better I'm buying one and I've recommended some people buy them

111:49 but that was based on the rumors that

111:52 DK2 was going to be pretty darn close to the release version that was partially

111:56 based on that yes and it's based on the main people that I'm recommending it to

112:00 are people that are going to just play with it a lot no matter what and they'll get a lot of usage out of it so it'll be

112:04 okay but don't buy this expecting for

112:07 everything to be like sugar and cream

112:10 it's not all just going to work out of the gate there isn't a ton of things that work really well with it yet you're

112:15 going to be playing a lot of tech demos or not playing with it um there going be

112:21 a lot of things that are different with the release version um and he wants to

112:24 make that clear he's and he crushed expectations on multiple platforms of

112:28 people saying that it's the that DK2 is going to be the same thing as the release version which I actually thought

112:33 was fairly true because most of the rumors have been fairly true so far and

112:36 that was a pretty big rumor um one thing that they're interested in doing is

112:40 making uh integrated audio because they're tired of big clunky headphones

112:45 again with the valkyrie uh idea if you

112:48 flip your head over and your headphones fall off that's really immersion

112:51 breaking that being said it's going to increase the cost and I'm probably just

112:55 going to want to replace them so right I

112:59 don't know hopefully they maybe have a model that doesn't have it built in

113:02 that's going to be on the consumer version so maybe but again I also doubt

113:07 it it's probably going to be on every single one they'll probably go Model T style you can have any color you want as

113:12 long as it's black yeah yeah so like wouldn't be surprised if that's a thing

113:15 at all um but we'll see it's it is definitely going to be removable that is

113:20 something that he said so you can take them off or just not use them or

113:23 something CU I want to use my own earbuds yeah your own earbuds or your

113:27 own headphones if you come up with some solution so they don't fly off your head or something like that like people are

113:30 going to want to do their own thing he realizes that he knows that uh he's a

113:34 audio freak anyways my headphones would probably be kind of awesome cuz like the

113:39 uh it comes like this like it doesn't sit in the same spot as the headband and

113:42 they clamp quite tight yeah so like it might work mine won't at all mine will

113:46 go flying right off my head so I I know I'll have to figure something out but

113:49 I'll probably just wear euds so like I don't I don't know not a big deal but

113:53 like yeah guys don't necessarily go rush and buy this I know a lot of people did

113:58 a lot of people that I sit in the team streak with and talk on the Afterparty with have like all bought it and I'm

114:03 like guys

114:06 guys maybe no all right our last topic

114:10 of the day Walmart announces video game

114:13 tradein program for store credit so I guess the advantage of trading in your

114:17 games at Walmart versus anywhere else is

114:20 that you can buy whatever you want with the credit you get you could go in and

114:24 literally trade Super Smash Brothers for

114:27 eggs if you really really wanted to and then since you're like a Smash Brothers

114:32 player you'd probably want to like throw them at people or something do they have eggs and SM I don't think so I don't

114:35 know where I was going with that I know they don't have eggs and Smash Brothers

114:39 well there isn't there that one character who's an egg character uh the

114:44 last one I played was brawl so I don't remember anyway not the point games but

114:50 not consoles can be traded and they actually started this pilot program back

114:53 in 2009 and you need the retail box for

114:56 the game so folks trading in much older games are probably still going to need

114:59 to go to gam spot or something like that and the program for the resale of used

115:05 games that come in is not open yet but is going to be coming later this year

115:09 but employees are able to buy them already the average credit payout credit

115:14 payout per game is $35 which seems like something that

115:18 they're bragging about now but will not be able to sustain later yeah because

115:23 they have to make money on it otherwise how is this going to work and we lied

115:26 and there's another topic um do you want to talk about this at all or are you able to able to

115:33 yeah what do you mean well the thing

115:36 that the are you able to talk about

115:41 it I have oh no okay forget it okay so

115:45 wild star there's a there's a 20% coupon code pre-order I guess that's all we

115:49 really have to say guys thank you for watching the show if you are wondering

115:54 if there will be a garage sale after the show where we get rid of some stuff on

116:00 Le cheep um yes there will be that is

116:03 one of the things that will be in the garage sale today so um stay tuned and

116:08 uh uh before we go oh just so everyone knows the build logs submissions thread

116:13 will be closed soon there's exactly two

116:16 because people saw them and were like I give up so pretty sure we know who's

116:21 going to win next

116:25 week come on guys anyways yeah

116:29 bye I'll be back in a minute

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