The WAN Show - PCI Express 4.0, Android Nougat.. & More AMD Zen - August 26th 2016
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2017-05-06
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okay so uh we'll start the show with the
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traditional apology I'm sorry for being late yep
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however this whoa we're really late yeah
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this okay it's actually my fault this time I think it's mostly your fault I
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could have been more prepared but I've been working on a video that I'm like
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really really excited about and I kind of got carried away doing a last minute
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processor swap so that I could like see
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more numbers when I'm done the W show and be all excited about how wrong that
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I was for my side of things people might be slightly excited people often
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complain about multi-part content and wanting really long videos you're
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getting one it took him like half an hour to
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film one video I think it was an it was
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was it really I started filming at
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about okay so I think it was half hour for one video 15 minutes the other one
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so but that half an hour video wasn't like six takes of a 5 minute video no
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that was like probably about a 17 minute
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18 minute video so all like deep dive
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technical yep basically if you're upset
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that we haven't really talked much about Vulcan and directx12 Luke took it upon
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himself to make up for L Time by spending a lot of time working
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on one ginor thing that will hopefully cover us for like at least a while yes
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oh jeez um so the one that I'm working
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on is actually um about the most wrong
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that I have been about how to configure
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a computer in probably a decade like
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we're talking I spent you know three
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times as much on a component that performs 60% as well as something else
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that I could have bought wow like I I done goofed I done
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goofed and and you guys are going to you guys are going to find this super
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hilarious I'm sure people love that stuff yeah yeah you guys are going to
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find this like super hilarious for sure because the machine or machines in
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question were actually the subject of multi-part videos previously on the
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channel and are a key component of our
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editing workflow here at lonus Media Group are you gonna have a multi-part
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video explaining why your previous multi-part video was bad no I think I'm
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just gonna I think I'm just Teran says yes no taran's wrong I think it's just
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going to be the one video and I'm gonna I'm G to
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quantify everything that's wrong um
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count in chat go whatever Doritos go Doritos is
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Illuminati I don't even I I think that
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there's a cultural Gap
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between me and twitch chat okay not to like anyways uh my twitch
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chat after the W show yeah is drastically different than the W show
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twitch chat so it has far less cancer or more cancer far less far less it's like
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slow it's a slow chat cuz like a fraction of the people are there but
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then like they're like talking about computer topics and like everyone's on
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point like when I screw up in the game there will be some guy that's like ha
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then other people be like you go it next time and like it's completely like
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everyone's really nice like you know you're jinxing it right now though right
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like like you you know what's going to happen in your after part are you doing
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an Afterparty stream tonight yeah but they'll forget by then so the internet
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never forgets it's like an elephant okay Ser
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of elephant Tes it depends the internet both forgets extremely quickly and never
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forgets he's like oh yeah guys this game sucked let's never pre-order another
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game whoa this new game looks really cool
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let's new Call of Duty is it with old
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guns this time hey no one's told us anything really about no man's Sky let's
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all pre-order
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what um all right so we got a lot of great topics for you guys today I feel
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like I feel like okay okay I feel like
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two things one I feel like the WAN Show is going to
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have as its first primary topic from now
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until early 2017 when it launches some kind of news about AMD
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Zen and number two is I'm feeling the
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battered wife syndrome a little bit right now because this is how AMD
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behaved every other time they launched something that was
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unexceptional the hype train for Zen is
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so strong between the leaks and the
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leaks like the actual leaks and the ones where amds just
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like you want to see you want to see one
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Benchmark want I just see one Benchmark you know between between we almost just
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got banned off twitch I didn't I didn't show the nip I didn't show the nip I
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just I I was teasing the nip I wasn't showing the ni actually even like covered it so that he couldn't screw up
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and stuff I could not get kicked off of twitch for that unless twitch altered
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their rules to be like don't be weird on Twitch but they would ban everyone
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everybody be gone everyone's gone everyone in the chat you're gone the
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entire creative section just like implodes immediately half the staff gone
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yeah yeah um so we've got some more news
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about Zen uh We've also got what's
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inside Microsoft's Hollow lens and how it works no this is not a video where uh
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you know My Buddy Cuts open the hollow
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lens I actually met the what's inside I tell you I was just going to say you I
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think Buddy is a strong word but I met him met him once I haven't met son
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though he you can now say that you are deep friends deep friend yes I can now
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say that I know an internet celebrity
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yeah what else we got for T I do too I've met Day N
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before dagger right right through my
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heart that was actually a really cool moment anyways uh we also have PCI
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Express 4.0 uh which brings 16 or well
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okay the main part that I like is 300 watts at the slot or not like the main
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interesting part I don't know that I like that doing my I'm doing my PCI
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Express 4.0 excitement dance you like the 300 watts
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thing okay he just wants to dance I think at this point
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also MIT discovers a cleaner more efficient smelting process which is
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actually really cool I don't know if that's like super directly related to
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what we normally talk about intro
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apparently the 300
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wat5 I fix
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it cooler M for full info about what
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what is this what does this even mean I guess you'll have to stay tuned to find
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out if you want to know about the company like who the CEO is What their
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like the mission statement is and stuff go to coolermaster tocom and click the
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hopefully exists aotos button if they were smarter they would have just named
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the company after the CEO and then you wouldn't even have to go to the website
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to know the CEO's name you would just have to know what the website is or the
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YouTube channel or the Twitter handle but your last name or the Facebook page
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so what if it's tals or what if it's
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media your last you should legally change your last name to lonus
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Media change your middle name to tech lonus tech Media Group
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Sebastian ho there you go add them all in there
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all right um what are we talking about I
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don't even I don't even know I feel like this week has just been crazy like I
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filmed six videos this week um we're
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trying to we're trying to build up a buffer for when as some of you know I'm
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having another small human join my family very very shortly you're insane
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you didn't know that I knew that you're just insane I was like how did you not
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know that you know that's why we're busting our butts right now right so
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I'll be taking hopefully a few weeks off when that happens uh close to the end of
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September um and the idea is that by
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that time Luke and I will have built up enough of a Content buffer that they can
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get by without me just fine without missing any of our daily uploads and
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without Luke uh being at the office literally 16 hours a day like I'm pretty
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sure was the case last time I tried to go anywhere or do anything
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yeah I just pulled double shifts and then I was two people that
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was I mean okay that was also a particular ularly horrible situation
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because that was right so aside from trying to create a buffer for me to be
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gone we were creating the buffer to launch Vel and during that while you
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were gone we launched vessel and I had to do
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like yeah tons of stuff for that yeah let's just say not everyone was happy
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about the vessel lunch and someone had to do damage control and my internet I
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we could go back and find the tweets of my internet it wasn't just me to be
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clear just like Nick light was huge during that if anyone was on the
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fors what you're going to go after his weight when you're trying to be nice to
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him no if he was wow he was servicing questions
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wonder if he's watching the show oh God he's been taking shots at me
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for being old okay okay which is
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something I have less control over you know you didn't even call out that it
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was like your birthday really last no not really yeah you had the cake
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there but you didn't talk about it oh yeah I had cake I forgot to eat it and
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it was like out in the hot Warehouse the whole time we were on W I was just like
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nope this is awful well it had that stuff so probably
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awful anyways what's that stuff fond fondant yeah fondant should be banned
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fondant should be not allow it shouldn't be called food yeah because it's awful I
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mean with that said plasticine material two two of the most memorable cakes I've
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ever had made out of fun we made out of fondant there was the noct to a fan from
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the uh from The Forum guys and then there was the TV cake fan is the TV cake
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yeah it had a TV on top I don't know if you looked that closely it was from LG
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you know those guys they're just like they're crazy they can make a a Linus
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from something they seem to just do it yeah socks yeah like a box of I actually
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still have all those socks I I I part of me wants to wear well they're it's funny
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because they're like thin they're like dress socks but they're hideous oh so I'm kind
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of sitting here
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going what are you where did they find
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you what are you for yeah what what do you do I pass butter oh you pass butter
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that's a don't it the conversation actually goes the other way it's like
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what do I do says you pass butter he's like oh God it's from Rick and Morty
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okay don't worry about it okay cool all right so our original article here is
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from extreme Tech it's like Tech but extreme extreme
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change it to like lonus extreme Tech tips Linus Tech tips EXT extreme Tech
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tip media extreme Linus Sebastian it's
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more Linus than you can
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handle um all right so basically in a
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nutshell uh AMD unveiled some information at hot
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chips um about the upcoming Zen CPU core
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and architecture uh Zen's design goals
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are to intelligently share resources between CPU cores while simultaneously
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hitting higher frequencies and higher execution efficiencies than AMD's
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previous CPU core K10 which is good because if they had been hoping to hit
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lower frequencies while not sharing
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resources between cores and being less efficient then that would be a terrible
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goal I'm glad AMD is clarifying these things you a lot of this stuff is that way I mean I was wondering I have to
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confess I was wondering like when we went from uh what was that Flagship six
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core that they actually they uh they replaced with the FX whatever you can
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stand can't remember what you don't have to not be in the camera it's fine shoot
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what was it when they introduced a new architecture that was actually clock for
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clock worse than the previous one I can't can't remember anymore it was 10
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1090 I try to not remember oh yeah 1090t
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had better IPC than the fx8 core that
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followed it and I was just kind of like what how did you pull that off um
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there's there's other like relatively like okay I hope that would happen
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considering you haven't released a processor in this long like faster L2
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cache faster L3 cache larger everything
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yeah two threads per core which we already knew yep so it'll have not
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hyperthreading yeah it yes um what else we got branch
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mispredict has been improved simultaneous multi-threading just in case you didn't uh larger retire like
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the brand ambiguous term qu issue floting Point Unit better C system lower
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power aggressive clock gating with multi-level
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regions um a lot of this is like stuff
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that too vague is my criticism cuz like
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obviously these things are going to be better I would really hope they would be
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considering saying that they're going to compete with modern Intel processors so
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they would need to be better than what you had before so there's a bunch of
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like slides and stuff if you want to see them so why don't you
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slide sorry sorry I'll stop singing that now
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um so there you go uh Zen will be really good we promise this time yay all right
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next up this was originally posted on the Forum by op it's me is that their
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name or is Colton trying to say would be original poster it's me is probably the
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person who posted is the name all right so the original article here is from
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Tom's Hardware uh uh uh mic cracking
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popping stuff um fix the mic audio is cracking
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there's like enough people spamming it that it might actually be true or maybe
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not um are we just leaning too close to it
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maybe
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okay cuz I can like sort of hear it
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somewhat in my ears okay um is it still
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popping if I'm back here nope I don't think so is it popping if I'm here not
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right now oh
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okay
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wo I mean I didn't change anything but that doesn't mean it's completely
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impossible that someone came onto the set and moved around just because they
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hate me personally I mean there's enough people working here now that it is
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possible that even if only half of them hated me
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there's enough people that you know someone might that's sad I don't think
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any I don't think anyone who works here hates me Brandon you know yeah right I'm
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not Brandon can hate yeah goodbye unless it's like a really shitty SD
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card yeah Brandon is not not a huge fan
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of uh bad SD card s yeah all right let's
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talk what's inside oops oh I don't know
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what I had on my screen that whole time well hopefully nothing incriminating
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what's inside Microsoft's Hollow lens and how it
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works kind of kind of so there's an OLED
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screen which is not super surprising uh
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the components of the opic opical I've done way too many videos in the last
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little bit the components of the optical system break down into micro display
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Imaging Optics wave guide combiner cool
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and gradings that perform uh exit pup
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expansion there the like the the compute
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inside of it contains a custom main board so we're not really going to know
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what is up with that 64 gigs of emmc uh
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2 gigs of lpddr3 RAM it's based on x86 and runs so
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surprisingly Windows 10 um it has a
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cherry Trail s so Wi-Fi Bluetooth connectivity and four microphones I'm
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not entirely sure why there's four microphones so with a VR head mounted
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display you've effectively got two tiny monitors that are millimeters from your
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face uh by contrast the hollow lens
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spits out a projected image which is then combined defract and layered to
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produce images that you can see within a space yeah you have to do that type of
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projection stuff at least right now
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in order to um create the Hologram like
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effect so right now the Hologram like effect can be created several meters
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away which is probably why they do all of these demos like in a house yeah
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you're not going to be you're not going to be projecting Holograms you're not
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going to see Charizard on a mountain yeah yeah s what on a mountain Charizard
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Charizard okay like the the Pokémon Go trailers thought you said Jo of Arc and
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I was like I don't well so I had my headphones in cuz I was
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going to see John far on Mountain it's like it's like usually when I have a wet
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dream that's not how it goes I don't
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think Jon of Arc was a sex symbol no no not I mean it's possible you know Clone
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High okay yeah like if you're really into Tunes or whatever yeah um sorry
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what are we talking about apparently Clone High okay sensors
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so there's there's a sensor bar you guys wait okay can we straw pull for a quick
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second do they know what Clone High is I I don't know I sure I'll drop a straw
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pull actually you can do them now because we can screen share you but it's
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okay I'm already doing it okay clone
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pie yes no turn
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it okay here we go let's see what we got
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here I just cuz like I really I wonder now okay guys hit that straw pull hit
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that straw pull I've been wondering lately like how out of date some of of
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our references might be I know I know I
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I I am out of date any reference to me feels inherently out majority says no
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wow there are more Trump voters in our audience today than you said Trump I
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said include turnup no that definitely peaked a
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little by the way yeah okay so we have more Trump voters and I I thought we
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didn't have any Trump voters left I thought they all hated me either for being Canadian or for
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building a computer Trum Trump themed PC I am sort of surprised that didn't
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like get trending somewhere for
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political reason I am I'm a little surprised myself that video just largely
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seemed to have been disliked by everyone Trump supporters and non-trump
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supporters alike just like go back to Canadian
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politics talk about Justin Trudeau like he boxes and not that many
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things interesting happen in Canada well there was elbow gate which is you
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know I love El God I think I think I
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just got
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triggered all right back to hollow lens so there's a sensor bar on the hollow
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lens that's comprised of four environment understanding cameras two on
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each side so there's a depth camera an
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ambient light sensor and a 2 megapixel
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photo slhd video camera some of these are off-the-shelf Parts while Microsoft
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buils the others so when you first said environment understanding cameras like I
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get it but I wasn't shifted back into talking about the hollow lens yet so I
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thought it was like they're not environmentally friendly but they get
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that they're not environmentally friendly and it's okay are you getting
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figured some more like is this
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just oh dear no no that's fine um so the
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environment sensing cameras provide the basis for head tracking because if
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you're going to project images out there they have to rotate and they have to
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change in size uh according to how you
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move your head around so that's why you need these cameras uh there's a time of
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flight so the time oflight depth cameras serve two roles they help with hand
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tracking and they perform surface reconstruction these sensors work with
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the Optics module and the IMU so that's pretty cool I guess um the
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word on the street is cuz all of this is just like for us because we don't have a
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unit uh for us this is just kind of like like cool that sounds like a lot of cool
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technology um but the word on the street is Luke might get a chance to try it
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maybe maybe which I'm really interested in because it's another computer on your
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head thing right which is your an
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excessively expensive one right so maybe they'll do it right and it's also not
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trying cuz well the head mounted computer it's not trying to do full VR
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yeah and the head mounted computer too is not about it not being expensive
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you could build the most expensive headmount computer and it wouldn't overc
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any of the problems you or I have with it the weight the heat the size it it
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might help those things but not overcome them yeah wouldn't overcome them for
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sure whereas this isn't trying to be
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that the projections that it puts in front of you don't need to be rendered
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on Dual GTX Titan XPS in order for them to look good and you don't have to
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render an entire field of vision scene
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you just have to render parts of it and stuff like it should this does make more
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sense but it also since the very beginning I don't know about you but to
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me has felt like this weird snake oil combination where it has like existed
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and not really existed and like they they did this one like they they showed
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it off and then they didn't really talk about it for a long time and then they're like and then they don't talk
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about it for a long time and it's just like what what is this thing yeah I
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guess it feels kind of like um it feels kind of like you know one of those games
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that's in development forever where they kind of like they show off like a
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working demo at some point really early on yeah and then it's like where did it
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go and then a year later it's a completely different game it's like yeah
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it's not an RTS anymore it's like a it's a first person shooter now do you
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remember the presence demo I don't know if I showed it to you the hollow lens
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presentence demo they did they did this thing where they they were in two very
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different rooms but they put furniture and stuff in the same location yeah I
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did see I did see the presents demo S I thought you were talking about a game demo I thought you oh that makes sense
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did you see the presents demo yeah I know I got you no um but basically what
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they did Starcraft ghost they made it so that because the furniture was in the
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same positions and a lot of it was like dense Furniture so it went squished when
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people sat in it um but people could sit around in this room and as long as they
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didn't sit on each other cuz that would be possible um or even if they did I
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mean hey the future is uh future is exciting future is accepting um so like
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you could sit in a room and have like what they were displaying was like a
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family gathering like with your with
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people all over the world and like that's super holy crap really cool but
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what they showed it off in was like this incredibly expensive cameras all over
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the place custom room and you had to have the exact same version of it in
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multiple places around the world and like this insanely expensive headset and
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all this kind of stuff and then it was like one little demo that like Engineers
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did in a back room and then it's just gone I'm just like what like what so
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cool where did it go I don't oh I don't know so I would I would love to see your
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thoughts or see hear your thoughts on it um I could yeah they could be both we do
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make videos that is sort of a thing that we do yeah I really hope I get to check
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it out cuz I'm rather excited all right speaking of things that I am excited
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about the p is it's me I'll show the
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link and the original article is from
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Tom's Hardware PCI Express
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4.0 because I was really feeling like PCI Express 3.0 were you was just not
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Web 2.0 enough were you from a consumer standpoint actually
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no yeah no I'm not feeling like that at all I feel like if anything this is
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going to be complet complely meaningless
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for the general consumer um we're already at the point
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where unless you're running more than
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two graphics cards in SLI or Crossfire
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There is almost nothing you could put in your computer that would give you any
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reason to need more than the PCI Express
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bandwidth that's already available on Intel's mainstream platform let alone on
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the Enthusiast LGA 20113 x99 platform so that's 20 PCIe Slots of
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which four are handled through uh DMI I
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think it's called whatever the replacement for the South Bridge is that
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the system whatever anyway um words fail
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me doesn't happen often um but but for
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like Enterprise customers where basically they they they can't have
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enough highspeed connectivity to the CPU
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this I guess will be very cool uh I guess it'll also enable faster
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ssds um so NVMe PCI Express ssds because
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even with maybe maybe it doesn't matter
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that you can have a PCIe Gen 4 16x slot
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maybe it's more important that your 2x slot on your laptop can do like you
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double the bandwidth to an ndme SSD that it used to be able to do maybe we'll see
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an impact there although quite frankly it's been a long time since I've really
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felt like a faster SSD makes a huge difference to the day-to-day use of my
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computer I think you were running an ocz octane until like 6 months ago yep which
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was like a SATA 2 SSD and now I literally don't even know the name of my
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SSD and it's fine um like I was talking to uh Anthony from NC the other day he's
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trying to upgrade his x79 system to x99 um because he wants to run NVMe and
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I was just
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like sure it is faster yeah and if you put them beside each other you can tell
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you can tell but it's not like the it's
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not like the moment that I had like like
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like moment that I had when I first installed a dual core processor in my
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machine or the first time you ever installed an SSD or the first time I
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installed an SSD those were like wow
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this is a new generation of comp um when
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I put that Athlon 64 X2 4400 plus still
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the most expensive single component I have spent my own money on I paid like
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$800 plus dollars for a CPU but it was relatively speaking worth
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it sort of um because it was very different than any other experience you
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could have I just don't feel that way about NVMe ssds yeah um anyway I guess
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we could tell you there is like the the like glass kind of wow this is beautiful
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combination of getting a ridiculously good monitor that's like the say the
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165hz ASUS yep remember the first time you tried that and you're like whoo y
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you combine that and like an NVMe drive and like that kind of tier high-end
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system you can feel it and it's nice yeah because everything is just but it's
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not the same yeah it's not quite like that and you know what actually I would
29:24
say that a high refresh rate ultrawide
29:27
monitor was probably a similar experience for me I know you don't
29:31
necessarily buy into the ultra wide but for productivity right I really
29:37
like my ultra wide for work here right I don't know if I'd want one at home if I
29:41
did want one at home it would go over and tilt down above other monitors and I
29:46
would put like chats up there and web brows and stuff because I like doing product activity stuff on them not a
29:51
huge fan of gaming on Ultra wides watching YouTube videos on Ultra wides
29:54
is sweet there's mov stuff would be sweet um LG has a 38 in Ultra wide
30:00
coming that is uh 1,600 vertical by
30:04
whatever that works out to horizontally I'm actually going to be doing a review
30:07
of it soon it looks pretty beastly I
30:11
don't know if it's going to make I don't know what 38 Ines is going to kind of
30:15
feel like right in front of my face you know that's a lot of inches in my face
30:20
yeah um but we'll see maybe I can handle it so we haven't actually said anything
30:26
about PCI Express 4.0 so it's 16 Gat
30:29
transfers per second uh the through the slot power is still 75 Watts same as
30:35
always um the final specification should come by the end of
30:39
2016 they are days away from releasing version7 of the specification to the 730
30:46
paying members that provide input and a board of directors to help the process
30:50
and it will double the bandwidth per Lane compared to what we've seen before
30:55
so here's a screenshot showing once it
30:59
loads um the bandwidth of the previous
31:03
PCI Express Generations I think poor
31:06
poor oh yeah there it goes poor server it's just struggling a little bit
31:11
there so there you go it didn't quite double
31:16
from so so gen one to two doubled gen two to gen 3 didn't quite double but we
31:20
are actually getting it looks like straight up doubling again this time so
31:24
what that means is you could do 31.5 gigabytes per second through a PCI
31:30
e6x slot um which is which is great
31:33
maybe we'll maybe we can do away with the external s bridge now maybe in did
31:37
be cool maybe we could I mean they could even they could even they could even do
31:41
something at that point where if you had
31:44
two maybe if you had two 16x slots they could allow it or something the gpus
31:48
could use the first eight lanes and the and the SLI communication could be on
31:52
the other eight Lanes like I don't know maybe I'm just totally being ignorant
31:56
here some of the reason why they don't like it as interference and cross talk
32:00
if Colton if Colton did this screenshot then he gets to be yelled at
32:05
because he left his cursor on one of the data points for the new spec that's okay
32:10
we love you um so there you have it though with a single 1X or 2x slot you
32:16
could do 2 gabt or 4 gabt per second of
32:20
bandwidth to something like an NVMe SSD which is which is I guess good you know
32:30
um here we go so they've also got some suggestions as to sort of why they think
32:35
this matters so use cases chipto chip connection you can reduce power in real
32:40
estate with extendable design features and power management capabilities uh m.2
32:44
scalable performance for power constrained mobile platforms u.2 so this
32:50
would be the um that's that like server connector where you can connect SSD
32:55
storage in like a more like a rack mount case um and then use cables to get get
32:59
off the motherboard with it and PCI Express cards so high bandwidth
33:04
functionality for Internet of Things appliances like HD video streaming apps
33:07
high frequency sensor data and automation controls so nowhere in there
33:12
does it say graphics cards will suddenly be faster because PCI Express 4.0 but
33:17
that's not going to stop them from cramming it down our throats as a selling
33:21
feature now we should probably skip this topic I've read over it and and then we
33:27
should go to Android 7.0 all right let's talk nougat so this was posted by Trix
33:31
Sanity on the Forum the original article here is from unon Tech I don't think
33:36
I've ever read anything by Matt humr on a n Tech before but Android nougat is
33:43
here so there's like some I actually filmed a uh a Techquickie fastest
33:49
possible you know these ones always get me they're like you won't believe these
33:54
animals are real yeah yeah half the time they're not real by the way yeah don't
33:58
get drawn into it they're real drawings they're real photoshops
34:02
yeah anyways it's started rolling out as of August 22nd so like four days ago or
34:08
something uh it will begin rolling out on Nexus devices in the next few weeks
34:12
including Nexus 5x 6p 69 player pixel c
34:17
tablet General Mobile 4G H yeah anyways uh the Nexus 5 and 7
34:24
2013 are not eligible for this update
34:28
LG v20 will be the first new device that will ship with nougat
34:32
pre-installed cool yeah Samsung's
34:36
president of mobile stated that an update should come to the Note 7 in perhaps the next two to three months how
34:41
long ago did you film your thing uh the Note 7 uh no this video today Tech quick
34:47
today yeah so coming soon yeah coming soon to a Techquickie near you yeah um
34:52
but some of the new get features that we're highlighting here are split screen
34:56
mode this is something that has already existed on some vendors custom versions of
35:00
Android just um so Samsung has had this for quite some time although and this is
35:05
something that I did bring up in my Note 7 review it doesn't work across the
35:10
board like here's a a key application that Samsung split screen doesn't work
35:14
with Google Sheets oh no way like I can
35:17
yeah so I mean that was that was kind of the first time when I was working on my
35:23
review when I went gee I really need to use split screen right now because I was
35:27
filling out a props sheet um and doing internet research on like funny camping
35:32
things and I was copying pasting links and I was like oh yeah cool that oh wait
35:37
no so the app support is quite limited if it is natively supported in Android I
35:42
would hope that app support would be quite a bit broader um double tapping
35:46
the uh the most recently used apps button now switches between your last
35:52
app and the current one um which is really nice cuz that and this kind of
35:57
ties into to another comment from my Note 7 review which I think went up on
36:00
vessel last night um where I was talking
36:03
about the stylus on the note this is not a note 7 just to be clear this is the
36:08
Moto Z Force Droid thing um but anyway
36:13
the the stylus has a feature called glance where there's a little a little
36:17
minimized icon in the bottom corner that you can hover over to quickly look
36:22
between two apps and I was like that sounds pretty cool right except that
36:26
it's faster to just use your multitask button and switch between them because
36:31
of the delay when you hover but if it was a shorter delay then it just
36:34
wouldn't work very well because every time you accidentally move the P anyway
36:37
um so so this makes that even less
36:43
relevant now because now you can just double tap that button and it'll go
36:47
right to the last app you're using so when you're quickly switching between things to refer back to them this could
36:51
be very useful I'm super excited about that um there's now the ability to
36:55
bundle notifications together and this isn't in our notes but it was in John
36:59
script so I'm going to assume that it's correct um also the ability to expand
37:03
your notifications and address them individually oh thank goodness cuz Okay
37:06
this is something that's been pissing me off with Twitter for so long you'll get
37:10
like this person followed you and then
37:13
someone that you're following like retweeted something of yours I'm like I
37:17
want to click on that person's profile to figure out who they are that just
37:20
followed me because if you ever get a notification that someone followed you they're probably someone important or
37:25
something or it's one of those people that just like 90 5 million followers
37:29
and 95 million people that they followed and it's like oh okay sure um anyways
37:34
and you can't because you click on it and the app just gets confused and then
37:38
it dumps you somewhere with that said I have very little faith that this is any
37:42
of this is going to improve Twitter because there's plenty of stuff
37:48
that is perfectly not broken on Android but is still very broken on Twitter you
37:53
know they uh released that like anyone
37:56
can apply for official status thing did you apply yep no they didn't they denied
38:01
John they didn't deny deny me they just refused to respond uh respond oh I've
38:06
done it like three or four times they're just I tried to apply and um the form
38:13
just didn't work in multiple browsers on multiple occasions I filled out the
38:17
whole form and that's what happened the first couple times I tried to up you
38:20
have to upload a thing I think yeah so I kept trying to upload and the uploader
38:24
just wouldn't work so I was just like okay it's really not that important to
38:28
me so yeah fine fine my only thing is
38:32
there's like and you're going to get this with your new account too there's a
38:36
lot of imposter accounts there was some guy who was not retweeting manually
38:41
tweeting all of the same tweets that I had really and then filtering in like
38:45
super ultra aggressive religious messages in between them and like he had
38:50
the exact same uh photo as me exact same cover photo all the same pictures that I
38:55
would post up he would post um like everything I mean that takes a
38:59
significant amount of dedication a lot of it was a lot of work and then yeah
39:03
religious messages filtered in between what a weird thing to work on I know I
39:08
mean everybody needs a hobby and I get that and you know they verified that I
39:11
was real and banned him really
39:15
fast and but they don't want to give you contined to not respond about being
39:20
official and I'm like if this is a problem you should probably just give me
39:23
an official tag so this is easier cuz once you're official if you report
39:26
someone as a or whatever you don't have to go through as big of a process oh
39:29
really I didn't know that yeah it's more refined interesting okay cuz they like
39:33
know that you're actually the right one cuz I had to go through this thing like
39:36
verifying that I was the one that wasn't the impostor right
39:41
anyways apparently the audio crackle is back I wonder if like the microphone is
39:45
overheating or something it's really hot honestly it wouldn't even surprise me
39:50
it's like 33 degrees out there or something like that and like the
39:54
warehouse with the lights and the you know
39:59
stardom neither of us have official tags
40:03
the stardom
40:07
the well all right so the original article
40:12
here uh was posted by Patrick 3027 on the Forum and it's from ifixit.org
40:19
could it be bendgate all over again no
40:23
because the design defect actually has nothing to do with bending but you can
40:28
see this gray flickering bar across the top of this iPhone is a classic symptom
40:33
of a problem that repair Pros are seeing more and more in iPhone 6 and iPhone 6
40:38
Plus devices um and it basically causes the
40:42
touchcreen to be unresponsive and the weird thing about
40:47
this is that it has taken until now for
40:51
lots of repair shops to experience this
40:54
influx of faulty iPhones with exactly the same problem now replacing the
41:00
touchcreen actually doesn't fix it the
41:03
gray bar eventually shows back up on the new screen as well it's actually the two
41:08
touchscreen controller chips or the touch IC chips on the board inside the
41:12
phone that are causing the issue Apple
41:16
hasn't addressed the issue and their in-house teams cannot fix it so third
41:21
party micro micro soldering Specialists uh it's funny this our notes this is
41:27
yeah our notes say mostly unauthorized
41:30
to do Apple repairs because Apple doesn't authorize third parties even in
41:35
cases where there literally isn't an Apple store within driving distance like
41:40
you would have to get on a plane to go to an Apple Store um so unauthorized
41:45
Apple repair people have been helping to fix people's phones but right now uh it
41:51
looks like that's about all that you've
41:54
got going for yourself The Good the good news is that Apple will have to respond
41:57
to this because literally every single iPhone 6 or 6 Plus is within its
42:02
warranty period right now unless you've done something to physically damage it
42:07
outside of this going wrong with it um so let's let's hope that they do
42:14
something though I don't know what that
42:18
would
42:21
be all right this next topic is pretty
42:24
fun this is posted by numlock 21 on the Forum the original article here is from
42:30
polygon South Park the fractured but holes fart smelling
42:37
peripheral is a
42:41
thing there you have it this is the nostril Rift which is of course a play
42:47
on Oculus and nostril and
42:55
um that's that's about it I I don't even
42:58
know what else to say other than someone tried it and apparently it's very pungent yeah the sole purpose of this
43:05
peripheral is to deliver a potent fart smell during specific in-game
43:10
moments and I think the jokes pretty
43:13
much write themselves here but the developer of this peripheral is
43:19
Ubisoft so the obvious one is we tried the nosulus rift ubisoft's
43:26
latest release we couldn't tell the difference between
43:29
it and any of their other
43:35
releases oh which isn't fair because they haven't been that bad lately but
43:39
who has the guts to make a gaming device
43:44
that just smells bad that just smells
43:47
like ass gas um so farting is a key component in
43:53
South Park the fractured but whole and
43:56
uh I mean it's a command that you can use anytime with a button press and then
44:01
after you fart in game the nostrils floods with a smell that only gets
44:05
stronger as you progress it comes from oils within the device that's really
44:10
gross um and here is a picture of what
44:14
it looks like when you wear it I not sure if I am excited about the
44:21
new South Park game I really enjoyed stick of truth I did too a lot it was
44:26
really good um um but they I mean like
44:30
so many brands that work through third
44:33
party game developers they made a game that was
44:38
good and my understanding is there were some difficulties throughout the development process I get that but like
44:43
they made a game it was successful and then they completely changed the
44:47
developer and are making a oh no very different game yeah it's not the same de
44:52
it's not Ubie um I don't no no the like
44:55
the actual game Studio making it yeah
44:59
oh that's still a nightmare yeah so it's
45:02
one of those things where it's like you have changed literally everything about it
45:10
so yeah don't pre-order things anyways but especially don't pre-order this yeah
45:15
I really do want to play it though if it gets good reviews I'll get it I'll play it uh all right next article this was
45:20
originally posted by Good Bites that guy can post pretty much anything about
45:26
Microsoft on the Forum and I won't be surprised
45:30
all this raised some controversy is an
45:33
Xbox on Z is he being paid off to sell onesies
45:39
yeah I don't think so I don't know what he might be this they're only being sold
45:42
on Australia what if Microsoft is trying to take over the Australian onesie
45:46
Market it comes in both black and white uh the features are highlighted in
45:50
Microsoft's press release it actually looks kind of comfy enlarged Pockets to
45:54
fit your Xbox controller and media remotes it has an ARM pouch to offer
45:58
quick and easy access to your mobile phone it has rollable legs and arms to
46:03
cater to all temperatures and Seasons it has forearm grips to prevent slipping on
46:08
those Edge ofyou seat
46:12
moments it has an extra large Hood to accommodate headsets for the ultimate
46:17
gaming session and customized gamer tag
46:23
embroidery um should I go get our NVIDIA
46:26
one on yeah okay I will be I will be right
46:31
back I will return in the meantime if you want to talk about uh manbang or
46:36
something else manbang what the crap okay we are going to talk about
46:40
this don't forget you can screen share you just have to click your thing right
46:44
give me one second guys hold up post it
46:49
in there now it's in the chat you guys can investigate manbang with me I have
46:53
never heard of this manbang thing I'm using the wrong Mouse
46:57
where's my screen there we go nice all
47:01
right so outside of the Nissan thing North Korea's manbang is a state
47:07
approved streaming service why did they call it manbang could one of them have
47:12
looked into this so one of my first questions that's
47:16
going to arise here is like as far as I've heard almost no one in North Korea
47:21
has the like North Korean version of the
47:25
internet so I'm not sure how this is going to work um it says you can't watch
47:29
Netflix in North Korea thanks n Gadget um but the Democratic People's
47:34
Republic now has something at least manbang a state approved set box that
47:39
streams live to me TV or on demand video
47:43
okay so really the only interesting thing about this article is the name
47:47
manbang there's a
47:53
video I have no idea how loud this is so I'm just going to mute it
47:58
I'm also going to mute
48:07
this there you go
48:10
okay so here come the shill comments see it's very subtle actually
48:17
just little NVIDIA logo oh I guess I could switch to this and then that might
48:21
make more sense see little NVIDIA logo on the ARM there it's uh I actually
48:26
don't know exactly how the Snuggie is supposed to work like is it supposed to
48:30
kind of be like a ninja thing or like oh wow but it has uh has pockets in
48:36
the front the uni pouch yeah it's hard to tell to kind of do that see well you
48:40
can tell that my hands disappear see like gone boom see Hands no hands it's
48:46
like a anti-aliasing oh nice something
48:50
there you go yeah yeah cuz that makes sense this is freaking warm okay check
48:55
this out real quick I want to show you this really cool video effect that they use in the manbang video check watch
49:00
watch this
49:04
whoa holy crap now that's a transition I
49:09
think we need to start talking to Taran and Ed about rolling on the channel I
49:12
think we should start using that for every transition imagine imagine every
49:15
single time we went from like product to host it was like
49:18
whoa boom here's your host wonderful you
49:22
have to like warp through space and time and then there's like this crazy fuzzy
49:25
effect yeah why is they why do they I
49:29
mean we've seen that before when there's condensation uh in front of the inside
49:34
the waterproof housing for a GoPro yeah we've seen that like that weird blurry
49:39
effect around the outside of the frame but
49:43
uh oh no original article here is from
49:46
RS Technica McDonald's recalls Happy Meal fitness trackers
49:51
after they injure children so they recalled millions of wristband toys amid
49:57
reports of blistering now this is a case
50:01
of um okay I have this conversation with my
50:07
wife all the time English is not her first language although she speaks it
50:11
mostly natively but there are certain things that she's picked up particularly
50:15
from her parents where um it doesn't
50:18
seem she doesn't really seem to understand the
50:21
importance of the different meanings that words
50:26
have like injure like okay yeah but I'll
50:29
give some other examples first so she'll tell me go up in the house I left my
50:35
keys on the table I will go to the house
50:38
and I will look on every single table in the house and they will not be there I
50:42
will then run back down the stairs and I'll will say they're not there where
50:45
are they and she'll say they're on the table I'll say come show me it turns out
50:49
they are on the counter which is not a table okay another perfect
50:54
example the cat scratched the kid and
50:59
now she has a scar and I go what it
51:02
turns out she means scratch which is not the same as scar scar is permanent
51:09
scratch is is a mark it goes away so in
51:13
much the same way that that a table is
51:16
not a counter or vice versa an injury is
51:20
not a blister and vice versa and and the
51:23
difference between after like hurting kids hurting kids has a very broad
51:27
definition anything could be hurting kids that could be all the way from the
51:31
Sun yeah yes but injuring children
51:36
implies that they like can't um the the
51:40
dietary properties of McDonald's food could be hurting kids
51:43
yeah uh anyway so so the devices were
51:47
found to burn and irritate kids skin so far there have been 70 reports of
51:51
injuries from the colorful gadgets um
51:58
so apparently you can return it to the
52:01
restaurant in exchange for another toy a tube of yogurt or apple slices cool so
52:07
at least there's
52:11
that apparently there's a US senator suggesting that swapping College
52:15
instructors for videos could be a good idea directly calling out uh the higher
52:20
education system as a cartel and suggesting that uh colleges could cut
52:25
the number of instructors and increase the use of online
52:32
videos um I guess this is this is trying
52:37
to to lay the groundwork for some of the
52:41
discussion that mostly seems to stem from uh the Bernie Sanders campaign
52:45
around postsecondary education should be free I guess we're we're now laying the
52:51
groundwork for What free what you should actually get for free yeah it should be
52:55
video courses I guess yeah um being able
52:59
to have uh office hours and being able to ask questions is rather important
53:03
yeah I really don't think the point that the Democrats were trying to make is
53:08
that um the the entire us higher
53:12
education system should be changed and then be free I think they were trying to
53:17
say like what we have which is fairly
53:21
well regarded with many of the world's most prestigious schools being in the
53:25
United States that should beess to everyone and I'm
53:30
not getting involved in that debate I paid for University um I was able to
53:36
like make that work even without you
53:39
know an amazing job by being entrepreneurial and stuff like that like
53:43
I think there are ways to do it I do I
53:47
think it's great that you know people in lower income brackets than me are able
53:50
to get bseries and are able to like make that work I think the system could be
53:54
better but I'm not necessarily saying I think that it's you know everyone's
53:59
right to go to university for absolutely nothing and thinking there's possibly a
54:03
middle ground but I do think it should be accessible to everyone uh whether
54:07
that means that you have 10 years to pay back your loans or whether that means
54:11
that the costs are significantly reduced I don't know what the answer is that's
54:14
what I'm trying to say I'm just saying I don't think the answer is making it free
54:19
and significantly reducing the Staffing
54:24
of universities and colleges yeah I really don't think that was the
54:28
point
54:32
um yeah Pizza drone deliveries start
54:37
testing in New Zealand the drone delivery stuff is interesting because we
54:42
were talking about this how many years ago did we start talking about this two
54:45
one and a half something like that yeah something like that it's been a while
54:48
and they're they're still kind of going along and one thing that we said back
54:52
then that is that this wasn't going to happen now that it was going to happen
54:57
later on down the line and whatnot and there's there's a video here which you
55:01
can check out I can't imagine your pizza wouldn't be cold by the time it arrived
55:06
if it was delivered by drone like I'm just pointing out sort of
55:10
why well I don't know what's like if that's a relatively thermally sealed box
55:15
it might get there faster than what oh
55:18
by a cable it might get there faster than uh a car sometimes you throw it in
55:23
a car and it's going to be in the car for a while before it gets to Des that's true but it's going to have to be pretty
55:28
sealed because you literally are blowing four
55:31
fans very forcefully at it whereas most
55:35
of the time when I see the driver come out of their car they're keeping it like
55:39
in that thermal bag against the seat where you're going to lose a little
55:44
bit of heat but like not too much I mean these guys look like it's
55:49
super delicious all nodding yes yes the pizza did arrive by drone
55:54
yes here you go who knows though that is interesting I don't think it's going to
55:58
matter that much clearly not actors look it's
56:02
raining drop fell right in front of the lens it's like oh sometimes you just got
56:07
to do the shoot you know not a neat Pizza Guys not a eat pizza um this is
56:13
interesting ASRock rack and super micro have announced Zeon 5 systems we are
56:18
actually getting one oh what we're going to do with it I don't know but hey maybe
56:24
it can solve your uh balancing ISS give it a rest um basically these are a
56:30
couple of the Super Micro Systems that are going to be available Zeon fi is um
56:36
kind of a like
56:40
co-processor but it's a little bit different from the first generation Zeon
56:45
fi so this is the U this is the new X200
56:48
series and it's going to be a little bit different in the sense that you can
56:51
actually run Windows on it now so it's
56:54
not just on a PCI Express card that you have to add to a system that's running
56:58
regular zons now you can actually just boot a Zeon F system so they're going to
57:04
have CPUs with up to 72 cores and these
57:07
are based on highly modified atom silvermont cores running it up to 1.5
57:13
GHz with up to 36 Megs of level two cache 16 gigs of on package high
57:20
performance memory holy crap a six Channel ddr4 controller as well as 36
57:26
PCIe 3.0 Lanes this is going to be an LGA
57:30
3647 socket so these chips are like huge
57:33
huge they're massive um and should be a
57:38
significant upgrade over the existing Zeon 5 Parts which only ran over a PCI
57:44
Express Bus like I mentioned before it is expected that they will be
57:48
available in PCI Express form again but
57:51
for now they're going to look like a pretty traditional rack mount server I
57:57
wish we could get a better look at the socket there so you guys could see yeah
58:01
there you go huge so there's it there it
58:04
is liquid cooled I don't quote me on this but I want to say like 160 or 185
58:10
watt TDP or something like that oh no here we go here we go here we go 250 to
58:14
260 watt tdps so yeah liquid cooling a thing in
58:19
servers moving forward um and again I
58:23
have no idea what we're going to do with it but apparently super micro is
58:28
planning to send us one I don't think we're going to keep it
58:33
okay because we legitimately have zero use for it whatsoever we should just do
58:39
something with it folder something something um the thing is that
58:44
it's like immediately B better than the whole folding team the software designed
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to run on it has to be designed to run on it even though it is sort of x86
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that's also totally fair like I still haven't had my brief on it yet I've only
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done a little bit of like cursory research myself um and it's not very
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clear
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exactly what a general consumer could possibly hope to get out of
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it probably nothing yes yes yes um okay
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but there are things that there's more than nothing that consumers could expect
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to get out of Intel finally has m.2 ssds
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freaking finally so the 600p series has
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been announced in capacities of up to 1
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tbte um so these are for the mainstream
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market these are not a 950 Pro competitor but with that said they still
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are going to outperform a SATA based SSD fairly substantially with sequential
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reads in the neighborhood of up to 2 gigabytes per second and random read
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iops over well over 100k 155k in random
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right iops actually more difficult are at 128k so we're looking at better than
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SATA 3 pretty much across the board uh although uh reviews are still pending on
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this one so I don't really have anything to say other than that and I guess
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that's pretty much all that I have one more thing scroll down a little bit y a
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little bit more Yep a little bit a little bit more a little bit more there
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the PlayStation now coming to PC okay this was at the very bottom of the dock
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I did not see this definitely should have been in like the first three or you
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better you better cover this so I only know a few things cuz also very bottom
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of the dock just saw it uh the PlayStation Now streaming ecosystem
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which I just looked up wow that's awesome um is coming to PC and includes
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a huge list of games it's actually
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rather massive I'm not even just saying that full list of subscription games is
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like here switching my screen for a second uh oh yeah cool W this is the
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full list of subscription games there's there's like if you like Bioshock
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there's Bioshock BioShock 2 BioShock Infinite you like immediately get a
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really substantial library of games for
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not even that much money all the God of Wars all this different stuff what's the
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monthly fee start your 7-Day trial uh one month for 20 bucks three months for
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$44.99 three months for 44 that is substantially more expensive than
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GeForce now more titles right just having a look at the titles available on
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gForce now though here oh man isn't this great how we can both be looking up
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different things yeah so part of the problem with GeForce now is that a lot
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of the games are just the same
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price you just NVIDIA is trying to sell it based on you don't have to buy a
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video card so they're eating up your video card budget whereas it looks like
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Sony is going after your game budget yeah um so it's a different kind of
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approach so you can see a lot of these are paid games paid paid I clicked on
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something sorry so the actual ones that are included with your membership are
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like mostly older titles yep Saints Row
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4 last gen or a couple of gens grid Auto
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Sport Street Fighter 4 um Arkham Asylum
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original Borderlands Borderlands one they don't have Borderlands 2 Darksiders
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Darksiders 2 those are old May Cry 4
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fear three um whereas
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Sony's Library looks more competitive
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for a couple of reasons number one is there are some more modern games in it
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and I think they're getting around this with that substantially higher subscription fee yeah um as well as the
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fact that Sony's library of exclusive titles spans back three generations of
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some pretty freaking amazing games I'm replaying Final Fantasy Tactics right
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now because if you're willing to forgive
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some of the utterly gamebreaking issues with it it is a great great turn-based
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game the story is completely
63:04
unintelligible as far as I can tell there's like suspenseful moments where
63:08
you're like oh yeah like that guy's bad and we hate him let's kill him you kind
63:12
of like you can kind of get into it a bit but the lore is very poorly
63:17
constructed especially at the beginning I I wouldn't blame you for having
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absolutely no idea what's going on and the uh sponsors we haven't talked
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about at all so I fix it I fix it has an
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offer code when that will let you save $5 off a purchase of $10 or more and I
63:38
fix it this isn't a service that they offer unfortunately because it's the coolest thing ever but I want to give
63:42
them a huge shout out for providing our office with all these embroidered prot
63:48
te toolkits the latest version of the Protek tool kit um I have one that says
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lonus Luke has one that says Luke John
63:57
has one that says writer so he's replaceable no it says John so they sent
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us they sent us all these kits and the funny thing about it was they were like
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do not show the old kits on camera
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anymore we are sending you literally a dozen of the new kits do not use the old
64:15
kits but the thing is is that while the old kit is not as good in some fairly
64:20
significant ways mine is still in perfect condition and works great I have
64:25
had no desire whatsoever to use the lifetime warranty that they provide on
64:29
their tools but the new kit is better it comes with 10 more drivers for the
64:34
screwdriver kit it has this handy dandy magnetic release system and the lid is
64:38
released so you can kind of use it as a parts tray which is pretty cool yep the
64:41
uh so the lid is magnetic as well and it has all these little dividing things in
64:46
it that I totally use as a parts tray even though I'm actually not sure if
64:49
that was what they intended uh the driver is significantly upgraded it has
64:54
like a grippy part on it now so you get way way more torque and which was a
64:58
problem before and it has this handy spinning part on the top I don't know if
65:02
you guys can see that this is spinning but that makes it so you can hold that
65:06
in your in your hand and you can spin the uh the the neural part right here
65:10
like there's a few ergonomic improvements that actually make a very significant difference it also comes
65:15
with more General Parts suction cups and more plier speed prior pieces and stuff
65:21
like that the okay the plastic like uh Mac Tools is what I used to call them
65:26
they have a better name than that but these are significantly improved as well
65:29
yeah um you can just bend them in half I don't want to do it cuz like someone did
65:33
it for me before and uh darus yeah was
65:37
just like and I was like oh why did you do that and he's like look cuz it's
65:41
still perfect can I do it
65:45
yeah and see it just like bounces back I was like oh that's cool yeah um and the
65:50
ends are much more durable now cuz I I used to love those things but they had
65:53
like a lifespan yeah the more more you use them the more chewed up the ends
65:57
would get and these ones areway solid iFixit tools are the bomb and if you use
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offer code when you can save five bucks off a purchase of $10 or more if you
66:06
don't have an iFixit kit and any mobile
66:09
device needs a repair in your house I
66:13
can tell you right now the math that I did is fairly
66:16
simple I can pay someone the amount it would cost me for an iFixit kit to
66:21
repair this once or I can buy an iFixit
66:25
kit now and I can do all my own repairs in the future and since then I've done
66:28
everything from taking apart an iMac to repairing my old iPhone 4 putting in a
66:33
new home button so that I can continue to use it as an MP3 player like a
66:36
throwaway device that I don't care about when I'm on trips or whatever the case
66:40
may be so highly recommended and that one was like a $6 part on eBay yeah so
66:45
you know just sitting and I personally I find repairing small electronics kind of
66:49
therapeutic so I just kind of sat and chilled for an hour replaced my home
66:53
button and it cost me nothing yeah except like $6 and the iix IT kit once
66:59
yes all right our next one and I have no idea what the bullet points are for this
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coolermaster is sponsoring the W show and you can learn more about why at
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coolermaster tocom because I sure don't
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know it's the maker five oh it's the oh it's the master case maker 5 again oh
67:16
good the master case maker 5 gives you the freedom to build your case uh the
67:20
way you will with a variety of modular Parts S I actually forget the pre-roll
67:23
spot I haven't done it in a little while that was it wasn't it was it um hold on
67:28
the master case maker 5 gives you the freedom to make your midtower PC case
67:33
your own with a Vari free form modular system oh right with the free form
67:36
modular system with a variety with the free form mod variety of parts and
67:40
accessories with a variety of parts and accessories okay let's just screen share
67:44
here all right master case maker 5 there it is guys the master case maker 5 the
67:50
case that we have probably talked about more than any there it is free form
67:53
modular system um there's actually some pretty cool
67:57
stuff about it so the fact that you can here this is cool so you can design
68:01
stuff yourself they've actually got 3D Graphics files for external modularity
68:05
to customize or accessorize so you can download those they actually have a
68:09
store that you can find where is it is it under modding or is it under okay I'm
68:14
not sure where it is we've talked about it before but they have a store where you can actually buy third party um like
68:19
maker inspired and maker designed and maker made accessories for the masterc
68:23
case series uh custom here it is maker
68:27
Master accessories and maker made accessories some of these are pretty
68:30
cool they were showing off some Primo chill ones back at I think it was CES I
68:34
was just like oh yeah okay that's pretty neat those guys are cool and of course
68:38
their site it takes a long time to load because that's how it is sure you try
68:41
and show anything you guys are probably all over there right now or
68:45
something so I guess that's pretty much it check them out at the link in the
68:48
video description and I will go ahead and copy that link into the chat for you
68:52
guys did Nick message you that we had forgotten the sponsor spots are like no
68:57
oh okay good job someone in the twitch chat did really yeah wow yeah we should
69:02
hire them yeah that's that's now the
69:06
like yeah hiring metrics have you ever been in the W show chat yeah have you
69:10
ever reminded of of our sponsor spots no okay I think we're going to have to talk
69:14
to you later yeah but if they yell at us for being late then it cancels it out
69:19
okay yeah all right so thank you guys for
69:25
watching the WAN Show the overheated
69:29
show yeah do we need like a fan for our
69:33
microphone like I don't I don't understand what to do at this point that
69:37
anymore putting a fan yeah you don't want to put a fan on a mic we need to
69:41
like water cool it yeah we could water cool the microphone I wonder if we
69:45
somewhere else like that would be just kind of one of those totally stupid
69:48
projects but that I'm sure you guys would watch I'd watch that like water
69:52
cool your desktop microphone just out of curiosity you know you could
69:57
probably actually do it relatively easily like we could even just wrap like
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some kind of conductive tubing around it
70:04
like you wouldn't actually it have to be custom Loop styled where the pump is far
70:07
away though yeah yeah put the pump like under the desk like a nice quiet pump
70:10
under the desk I think I think you'd be fine vibration isolation Okay like some
70:15
kind of like a thick rubbery phone thing of some kind yeah some kind of silicone
70:19
thing um I think that could work in like a
70:23
radiator just like mount it to the bottom bot of the desk speaking of desks
70:28
this has been a long time coming but there will be a new desk PC build online
70:35
as Tech tips and it is going to be better than every other desk PC you've
70:39
ever seen not because it looks more
70:42
impressive not because the hardware is higher end not because it has like
70:47
Hardline water cooling or anything like that it will be the best because it will
70:54
be super cheap and look pretty
70:57
cool okay yeah cuz most s PC builds are
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like excessively expensive Okay and like
71:05
to replicate them you would need like an
71:08
entire well equipped shop yeah whereas this one literally doesn't have a single
71:13
glue or excuse me a single nail or screw in it you can build the entire desk PC
71:18
with a single sheet of MDF and
71:22
glue seriously well the computer would have screw in it
71:28
yes but the purpose of the desk Victory the purpose of the desk PC is that you
71:33
can build it for less than you'd pay for
71:36
like an Enthusiast grade case that's pretty wicked so it should
71:41
be pretty cool pretty excited about it that is pretty wied I mean okay to be clear the hardware inside it is going to
71:45
be baller AF because it did we have that
71:48
yeah it's a showcase build like if I go and put like an matx matx motherboard in
71:53
like one hard drive in an entire desk P I got so much [ __ ] because I released
71:58
that video about how high-end power supplies or like really really really
72:02
high wattage power supplies are stupid yeah and then the very next build that
72:06
came out had like a 1200 WT power supply in it the only reason why I did that was
72:10
because it looks nice and it came with it already had the nice cables plugged
72:14
into it yeah that computer turned on like maybe once for b-roll yeah sorry
72:19
but like the comment section oh man
72:22
people were like how can you make a video about that then make this computer
72:26
I'm like I'm not suggesting you put these parts in this case I was just
72:30
reviewing the case we're just reviewing a case it legitimately doesn't matter
72:34
what power supply we put in it no not at all it was literally just laying there
72:38
you know what was my other favorite like top comment on that video was the people
72:43
being like well actually they're not stupid because my triple r9290 build
72:49
actually like draws almost that much I'm sorry
72:52
but why did you build I want triple 290
72:56
Bill High wattage power
72:59
supplies don't make sense for any other
73:03
configuration of Hardware that would have made
73:07
sense I can build a computer that can
73:10
max out a 1,200 or even a 1500 wat power supply and I literally in the intro
73:16
seven Gamers one CPU was that computer
73:20
it actually Drew like 1500 watts from
73:23
the wall but it was stupid and that makes sense and nobody should have built
73:27
it yeah it was a cool experiment yes it
73:32
definitely was a cool experiment I don't understand why anyone built a multi what
73:38
what what architecture was that that was Hawaii oh I think so yeah I don't
73:44
understand why anyone built a multi- Hawaii Crossfire
73:51
system oh unless you were going to water
73:54
cool it maybe maybe and like hang the radiator out the window or put it on
73:57
your roof but we all know how that ends
74:03
up anyways I all right so I'm done thank
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you for tuning into the show it's been a great great time we see you again next
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week same bat Time same bat Channel
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bye is that joke ever going to get well someone in I guess people have to get it
74:19
for it to be old someone in my chat again thought you were saying batch yeah
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same batch Time same batch ch and I was like nope that's wrong