The WAN Show - Microsoft's BEST Event EVER - October 9, 2015
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2016-05-06
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okay you may not be able to tell this
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but we have actually moved since last week not much well is it Improvement it
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was enough that no it's not an improvement it was you might not know
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this but things got worse welcome to the L show we're only half an hour late what
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is this music and his laptop has Audio Oh shut up all right good we've got cool
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topics yeah we've got great topics today so at least there's that and the reason
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we're late is actually filming something
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the coolest video that I have ever made
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wow do you think I'm overselling it do you think really there was a bug
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okay what if I okay do you think I'm overselling this
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video maybe not I think there's really good contenders but this is pretty
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badass so so guys it's a build log but
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it's going to be a build log where the part where I physically build the
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computer is literally like 30 seconds to
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a minute and like the least important part yeah it's the single least
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interesting part of the build log it's like over there it actually legitimately
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isn't working now but there's a good reason for that and uh people are like
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the L show logo is too big you know what we have you're too big there's no such
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thing as too big technically
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um you could train up to we have had way
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worse issues than like the wano logos a
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little bit big way worse way worse Beyond way worse please fix the left
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hand logo uh you know what tell you what
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that'll be what we tackle next week instead of completely moving the entire
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set to make room to make the coolest video that I have ever done I will
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change the location of the wow logo in the meantime though we've got a bunch of
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great topics for you guys today uh Microsoft announced a whack ton of
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Hardware including the Lumia 950 and 950 EXL the Surface Pro 4 the Surface Book
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I've actually got a Surface Pro 4 I will be unboxing it live later on the show so
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we'll be getting our first impressions of it um what else we got you can hack
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smartphones with just a text message um
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thank you Edward Snowden for telling us these things yeah basically um the
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people site that we smashed on that week and honestly I thought of a ton of
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reasons why it was even worse later on after the show um has apparently kind of
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disappeared but the Creator still moving ahead with the release uh Dell's got a
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bunch of interesting stuff that they actually there's just like a ton of
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stuff this week uh ARS Technica has their Android marshmallow review up so
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we'll be talking about that a little bit so stay tuned and there's a sale on the
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that later I don't know we can also do it
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later
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look up are you really selfing during the W show you're taking a blurry selfie
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you managed to close your eyes okay okay
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no no no no no no no no no they're open
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it's not even that bad you're just not Smiley you're like what your selfie cam
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is not very good on that phone wow
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that's that's actually kind of surprising you know what has a great selfie cam the new galaxies oh really
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yeah the S6 and the Note 5 they have Wicked selfie cams it's actually kind of
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amazing okay cuz I was going to say that would be a whole other level of fail
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managing to Blink when you're the one controlling the
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shutter like it's I've probably done it just to be fair it's one thing to be
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like someone else is taking a picture and you're like right when they take the picture
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that's that's still kind of fail a little bit it's a little bit fail but to
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do it to do it to yourself is pretty bad oh you know what else arrived today I
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got my rose gold iPhone 6s oh damn also
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known as pink iPhone 6s because calling
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it rose gold is the most pretentious nonsense thing ever is it actually does
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it have a golden tinge or is it just super pink well okay do you have it we
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got to be careful of bumping the mic sorry about the mic
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bumps like it has a rose gold look to it in
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the same sense that the gold iPhone is
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not a yellow iPhone which it like that
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it doesn't look gold it looks like kind of you know orangey yellowy kind of
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goldish so it looks rose gold in the same sense that something it's behind
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the they can't see that all something rose gold would look kind of pink so
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well you guys can't see this at all so whatever you'll see the roll of it in
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the uh in the in the review that I do later on which I had that there for a
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reason I know but you can't you can't
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see it because it's behind we'll deal with that L later uh okay so let's go
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ahead and why don't we just kick things off with our first topic here today sure
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we'll actually start the show immediately for a change so the 10 most
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important things from the Microsoft Event this was posted by Matt Woodson on
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the Forum I'm going to go ahead and pull up the original article here from RS
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Technica you want to go ahead and throw that Forum Link in there oh I thought
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you're doing the Forum Link in the chat right okay don't we usually do that no
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oh well okay then I
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can handson the surface for pro four is
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a design that's settled down REI refines
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almost everything but keeps the basic looking feel of the pro three excellent
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very nice okay so let's go through what all happened at the event there there
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goes it train so they announced the Lumia 9950 this is a wind the Windows 10
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mobile Flagship it's got a Snapdragon 808 processor which seems to be what the
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smart smartphone makers are using these
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days uh we actually have a video up on vessel where I took um a snapd two
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Snapdragon 810 based phones a Snapdragon 808 based phone an apple A9 based phone
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and an exos 7420 based phone and liquid
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cooled them all to find out how much they throttle and how much they're
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capable of if they don't thermal throttle and both of our 810 based
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phones were just abominable like it was
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terrible um tablet class liquid cooling
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technology as if it needs that with an 808 but whatever it features USB type-c
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huge thumbs up there I don't even care about about rapid Quick Charge features
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compared to having a type-c connector okay compared to yeah I was going to say
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they're pretty cool no no I do care yeah like I've I've actually found myself not
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being bothered nearly as much by iPhone
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battery this time around and I don't know maybe I got uh a tsmc chip versus a
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Samsung chip which is supposed to get better battery or something
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but uh and I haven't checked I haven't checked what CPU mine's using but I
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found I'm actually doing really well like I had a 3 and 1 half hour call with
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someone yesterday and in addition to using my phone like I normally do I've
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got the Apple watch so I'm paired via Bluetooth all the time and I almost made
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it to bedtime like it ran out like half an hour before I was going to go to bed
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that's still so not okay though I know I but hold on but then you plug it in for
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like 20 minutes and you've got a very significant charge yeah yeah like that
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that like there's a fail or not fail for me and if you fail you just failed I
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don't care if it was close you just still failed Droid Turbo 2 is rumored to
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be coming in about a week so I have
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already I have already started trying to
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get my tentacles into either Motorola or
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dbrand or someone I don't care heck I would even talk to Verizon if it was
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it's going to be a Verizon exclusive again is is the rumor um but man I am
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super stroked on that it looks like the battery capacity maybe a touch lower
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than last time actually but I mean
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assuming they get a bunch of other optimizations right it could still
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deliver just exceptional time on anyway back to the Lumia 950 sorry I got
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distracted by phones that matter oh dang actually Windows 10
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mobile has some pretty cool looking stuff so uh yeah USB type-c 32 gigs of
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storage with a Micro SD slot and launching in November for 5.49 there
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will also be an EXL version uh featuring the Snapdragon 810 processor hopefully
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the chassis is big enough to dissipate the heat um with
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blah blah blah what else changes not a whole lot 5.7 in screen so there are
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some other devices there's alumia 550 so this replaces the 640 and 640
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XL um the surface dock so it's a display
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to it's a display dock so this will allow you to turn your phones into a PC
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like experience this is some cool stuff now to be clear because these Snapdragon
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processors are ARM based you're not going to be you know running freaking
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split on it and you know game streaming off your phone you won't be running x86
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applications but you will still be able to have a very Windows likee Experience
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and for applications that do have armed versions like office for example you
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will be able to use those this is something I was wondering about I was
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actually going to pitch this to you as a lpes video again I've done this before
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it's probably a terrible idea let's pitch it to you on stream we'll see what you think um I was thinking about like
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OTG Extravaganza where we take a phone and
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try to be like could you manage to like go through school with just your phone
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so use an OTG cable and like Splitters and an inline power so you would want to
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do it the ghetto way yeah so you try if
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we get like a keyboard and a mouse maybe even see if we can get that portable
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monitor running off of it off of like a like a massive battery bank or something
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yeah well no cuz you're in class you could plug it into the
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wall yeah I don't know back when I was in school there was a severe shortage of
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plugs like I went to class with a power bar okay fair enough everyone loved me
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you could just tell someone else you want to make quick techie friends in
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school bring a power bar I'm not even kidding that's all you need anyways
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sorry but I thought it could be fun just like what is the extent you could go and
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with like modern pretty fast phones that you could have word processors on yeah
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is it enough to just like take notes with the keyboard and mouse Microsoft
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wants to be doable out of the box but then you'd have to use a Windows phone
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yeah and like how much does that thing cost so you have to have a Windows phone
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and you have to buy this thing my idea is like hopefully you just have to kind
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of buy the adapters you already have a keyboard and mouse the doc is pretty cool though so it plugs in with the
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type-c connector and provides ports for HDMI DisplayPort and three full-size
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USB ports so you really could have like a very desktop like experience plugging
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into this bad boy um other things so the Surface Pro 4 maybe now's a good time to
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do the live unboxing
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hopefully it doesn't just fall out my box is very plain I actually got this
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from the uh the the Vancouver Microsoft folks they dropped it off today the
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timing is terrible because I ordered one last night thinking that I was just
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going to have to buy one in order to get one and so you just cancel it yeah yeah
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no I still can cuz it's it's just a pre-order so I will cancel my order
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there you go it's the Surface Pro 3 the pen is sort of magneet stuck to it right
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now I'm actually legitimately not if that's supposed to go there no that's
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for the uh the uh the type cover so
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we'll go ahead typ cover is that the typ cover I do have a type cover yes I
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actually I asked them that too cuz I was legitimately not even going to bother
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taking the device from them if they didn't have a type cover for it cuz I
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was just like yeah realistically I can't review a surface device without the type
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cover anyway so I might as well just wait people are saying three or four or
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three did I say three sorry no this is a Surface Pro 4 yeah okay so it's a four
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there we go that snaps on a little something like that it's got a kickstand
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a little something like that it still closes something like that it's got a
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couple different like angles and junk so you can do things with
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it I sort of think I agree so far with
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uh RS Technica evaluation it not having a Surface Pro 3
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in front of me you could just tell me this is a Surface Pro 3 and I would
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literally never know the difference at all so you've got your mini DisplayPort
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here you got a regular USB connector um
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over on the other side you got your headphone jack you got your webcam you
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got your micro SD slot yeah pretty much looks like the same damn thing I've got
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the 128 mod show the screen disconnect joint the screen disconnect not the
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same as the old one uh this isn't the
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Surface Book yeah this is not the Surface Book this is the Surface Pro 4
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so this is still just the tablet that I
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turned off when I went to turn it around and show you guys the screen which
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whatever let's just get through the specs there will be a review coming I do
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also have an order in for the top tier Surface Book and I will be reviewing
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that as well so the Surface Pro 4 12.3
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in display with reduced bezels so a bigger screen without actually
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increasing the device size up to a terab of SSD storage up to 16 gigs of RAM
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thank you both the Surface Book and the
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Surface Pro 4 are available with up to 16 gigs of RAM thank you given how much
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memory a freaking web browser can use these days and don't tell me it's
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chromes it's all chrome problem all right they're all guilty of it um 16
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gigs of round is a must if you are
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multitasking it features a six gen int Core I5 or i7 I think there's an I3
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model actually skyl processor and they're claiming it is 50% faster than a
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MacBook Air and 30% faster than a Surface Pro 3 but it's battery is its
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battery life as good as MacBook Air yeah that is a Ser damn that was impressive
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that is a serious thing to overcome about the MacBook Air if you're going to
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try and compete with that puppy yeah uh it's got a fingerprint scanner a hybrid
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cooling system Gorilla Glass 4 and you can call Cortana by holding down the
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button on the surface pen the type cover is also the thinnest ever it actually
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that may be noticeable uh it's been a while since I've played with one though
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and has a 40% larger trackpad that is a
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noticeable improvement with 5point multi-touch
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support and the surface book is the first ever twoin one laptop built by
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Microsoft this really looks like a game changer like I'm somewhat interested in
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the Surface Pro 4 as you guys know I wasn't a huge fan of the Surface Pro 3
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and this looks like very much an iterative
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Improvement Surface Book on the other hand though that could be a game changer
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I think that's what people in chat were kind of looking for and I understand
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that too yeah 13 1 12 in display 267
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pixels per inch that is one high resolution screen uh pixel sense for
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touch sixth generation Skylake processor latest generation NVIDIA GeForce GPU
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they're being very koi I hate that about the graphics processor in it um
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apparently 620 Microsoft worked with its
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Xbox team to tunee in graphics performance okay it's advertised at 12
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hours of battery life per charge and has a dynamic fulcrum hinge that can accept
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the screen in either direction so you can have it turned this way for like a
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laptop or you can turn it around and use it as a tablet and it starts at
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$1,500 with the highest end model at $26.99 with the unnamed Invidia
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GPU I am super stoked on this one really
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excited to see if it throttles because it looks like a really Slim like very
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beautiful device but maybe thick enough that they actually managed to cool the
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bloody thing unlike the 2015 retina MacBook yeah um which we got literally
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double the performance out of when we water cooled it
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so yeah I don't know I don't really know
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what else to uh to say about that other than that I think that's about it until
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we see it yeah I'm like super stoked it's I've pre-ordered the core i7 model
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so yeah Facebook has a new Universal
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Windows 10 app that's honestly basically all I have to really say there um yeah
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it'll work on all your Windows 10 platforms and everyone just uses Windows 10
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computers so yeah but if you get like a
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tablet or a phone it'll work on there too it's just so boring yeah uh the
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Microsoft band is being positioned as the ultimate fitness device everyone
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wants to sell you a freaking wearable based on Fitness how many people
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actually work out think about how much uh money you make out of
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that and honestly so many of them are useless I know if they don't have a
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heart rate monitor then don't buy it as a fitness device
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because there's a huge amount of stuff that can count your steps like you can
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get like a couple dollar things that you just reset every day that can count your
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steps and you don't have to spend like hundreds of dollars on this crap I don't
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know you know what Austin was saying this and I think it's pure I
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mean I think he believes it but like for me it doesn't work at all but he was
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saying one of the things he loves about the Apple watch is the little Fitness
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tracking bars like the step tracking and standing bars that are like hey you've
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only done like 40% of enough for today and every time he looks at it a reminder
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you can get free apps on your phone but you don't stare at your phone every time
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you want to know the time well okay you do but okay just just just calm down for
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a second okay you're less likely to see
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something else cuz like I don't know about you but droid turbo I straight up
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do not even have to unlock it to see the time I will legitimately not see
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anything I really like that about Motorola stuff yeah it's really cool if
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if the Droid Turbo 2 doesn't have the proximity sensor and like wave to
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preview my notifications crap I straight
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up not interested in it that was my favorite thing about that is a killer
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also why isn't everyone doing this
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Jester for flashlight I don't even have to like why isn't everybody doing this
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that's really cool there's a few little things about that film that I love um so
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anyway here let's do my straw pole results here lonus is Queen do you even
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work out bro we've got 32% of you saying
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yes with 42% of you saying no and 27% of
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you uh weighing in with uh with turnip throw away your vote votes I mean this
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is one of those things it's like you're trying to sell wearables
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to like I mean I guess maybe that's it they're not they're not trying to sell
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them to Geeks no not not specifically
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yeah because like there's a lot of people that buy does anyone else give a
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crap wearables that aren't Geeks yeah okay yeah like I have friends of mine
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that aren't Geeks that want to get a fitness wearable would they buy a Microsoft band it's Microsoft so
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probably not but Microsoft is probably trying to get there so it's got an OLED
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screen a curved gorilla glass display apparently there are lots of thirdparty
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Partners like subway Starbucks Twitter and Uber huh good luck with that um to
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Subway and run back home it can track elevation with the built-in barometer
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and it's coming for $249 on October 30th
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and Uber I understand it's like so you can call a cab but like uber like run
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for a little bit and then Uber for the rest of your run and then run back home
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it's like for Halloween I'm going to go as a Microsoft
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Fanboy with my Microsoft B and oh my God
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we have to do something for what what
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when does Halloween happen on the 31st oh my good no Saturday I was wondering
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what day oh so so we have to the 30th
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the day before yeah is wano oh we have to do something oh I don't know what to
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do I'm just so tired lately just tell someone else to figure it out yeah I
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guess that is the point of hiring people yeah Colton Colton so this is kind of
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huge huge price tag that is so
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sad I wanted one so bad and now there's
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no way I'm going to get one hollow lens Dev kits $3,000 I don't even have to
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look at the doc to know that it's
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just so expensive the kits will apparently be
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fully untethered so no cables or connection to a PC is required so you
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could trade in your PC no towards buying
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that Hollow lens dev kit it wouldn't even I don't even think it would cover
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it no it wouldn't and perspective augmented reality devs can put in an
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application now so the dev kit is coming q1 of 2016 we were actually just
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commenting the other day that the whole Hollow lens thing has been extremely
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quiet lately just completely shut up about it and then now they're talking
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about it and I want them to shut up again yeah go away figure out a way to
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make it cheaper go away find some way to make it cheaper
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apparently Colon's going to figure out Halloween stuff for us okay good all
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right so that's pretty much it for the uh for the the Microsoft I wish I wish
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we had more to say about Hollow lens so
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this article is from gatech.edu
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edu oh like yeah this is the Georgia Tech site yeah okay so liquid cooling
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moves onto the chip for denser
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Electronics this is looking like some pretty freaking cool stuff so micro
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fluidic passages cut directly into the
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backsides of production field programmable gate array devices so fpga
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devices could allow better density of
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transistors and therefore better uh device Trend uh excuse me uh better
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device performance per size which could lower costs although we would need to
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know how much um we' need to know how
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much this costs to implement and could improve performance as well so if we're
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not looking at low cost devices then just packing everything in denser could
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improve performance as well to make this they etched cooling passages into the
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Silicon incorporating silicon cylinders proximately 100 microns in diameter to
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improve heat transmission jeez so the information presented on
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September 28th at the i e conference in San Jose California and like all the
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like wow that's crazy bananas technology stuff that we talk about we could be
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looking at years before any of this ever
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gets implemented if any of it ever gets implemented when things are presented at
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you see them in a while yeah um
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apparently with water inlet temperature at of approximately 20° C and an inlet
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flow rate of 147 you got to stop putting
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the thing over what I'm reading now sorry sorry sorry I'm trying to I'm I'm reading along and I'm trying to be an
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active listener 147 millimet per millit per
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minute the liquid cooled fpga operated at less than 24 de C which is pretty
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crazy actually that is so cool they don't talk about what that fpga was
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doing or what is actually disting the heat yeah um so like I I I don't know
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you know like would your motherboard have the liquid cooling
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radiator for the CPU like at the back and then like in
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maybe so yeah yeah we'll cross that bridge
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when we get to it yeah I mean and and like to be clear fpga is not a like an
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Intel CPU that totally different class of device that's why I took back my
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soldered in comment yeah all right
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smartphones can be hacked into with just one text message and then used to spy on
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the owners this is according to Edward
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Snowden the famous whistleblower for the
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whole NSA shenanigan thing that's been
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going on for God it's been over a year now hasn't it
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jeez all right so you about his Twitter account sorry he made a Twitter account
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which was immediately official so this was obviously planned which was probably
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smart I'm one thing I was wondering about is does he have a login method
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just for him does he have a special way to log into Twitter I kind of bet you he
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does and I bet you his login is monitored like all the time anyways um
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he had like a huge amount of followers already he's he's following one thing
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and it's the NSA hilarious anyways so
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yeah apparently they can be hacked into with just one text message then used to spy on their owners as he said um the
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government Communications Headquarters GC HQ has a set of tools called the
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Smurf Suite there's is kind of hilarious
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there's three of them first one is dreamy Smurf lets the phone be powered
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on and off nosy Smurf which lets spies turn the microphone on and listen in
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even if the is off and paranoid Smurf which hides the fact that the phone has
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been taken over apparently Snowden says that the NSA has spent one billion
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dollars on similar tools that's where your taxpayer money is going if you're
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American or UK appreciate that yeah wo
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let's have a let's have a tax party I think that's what it's called in
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the whatever eyes thing probably our tax
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money too oh I know I was just being I was I was just being smug about being
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Canadian there's nothing to really be smug about it about our tax sell
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probably that as well with respect to this anyway um Australian researchers
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make a Quantum Computing breakthrough
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this is from smh.com.au are you posting the link yeah
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I got it okay Paving the way for world
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first chip oo Quantum it could be a real thing
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now okay again to be clear even if a quantum chip existed you wouldn't be
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installing it in your home computer for a very very very long time I thought it
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might be super good once we're able to do that due to like encryption and all
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this other kind of stuff but um now so basically until now this
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technology has relied on exotic materials to construct quantum computers
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making them completely unsuitable for commercial production like we're talking
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like we have to have it at like this like hugely Subzero temperature and like
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maintain it like exactly there and then like it'll do something for a bit and
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yeah proof of concept um but they have
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apparently patented a way to scale their technology to millions of cubits so
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that's like Quantum bits uh using standard industrial manufacturing
28:18
techniques to build the world's first Quantum processor chip so basically
28:22
their patented design modifies the transistors found in regular computer
28:26
chips to store zero or one on the spin
28:29
of a single electron which works like a tiny compass needle so it builds on
28:33
previous research that produced the first Quantum Computing transistor of
28:37
this type interesting so they've demonstrated the first time that we can
28:40
do the first Quantum calculation on a silicon chip working with two of these
28:44
Quantum bits so stay tuned I guess and
28:49
to be clear Quantum Computing is not going to be like the be all and end all
28:53
of oh now we can do like way better 3D graphics for for gaming uh but it's
28:58
great for things like Luke was saying like encryption for example way faster
29:02
for that this is kind of and like the idea is if you mess with the data it
29:07
will change the data so if you try to read it and you're the wrong person I
29:11
believe it will actually change what the data is so if someone tries to break
29:14
into your encrypted whatever it won't matter it will suck because if you try
29:19
to read it later on it'll be changed but it's kind of like the idea of like
29:23
having your phone wipe itself if it gets read too many times like that's actually
29:27
a good thing I had to turn that feature off cuz I have children yes yes I've had
29:34
someone like grab my phone and they just be like and fail a whole bunch of logins
29:37
I'm like no stop please what are you
29:41
doing so to to get some idea of of why
29:45
that is I mean look at CPUs and gpus how they are much better for um hold on a
29:52
second how they're much better for specific workloads than each other not
29:56
because like one is just better and the other is worse but because they're
29:59
optimized for different workloads so I'm going to go ahead and fire up this
30:03
article from BBC and Luc is going to handle this people topic okay didn't see
30:09
that coming and yes I know that's not exactly
30:14
how Quantum encryption Works give me a break it's actually not
30:18
a bad representation you can go look it up uh if you want to know more about
30:22
Quantum anything you should probably look more deeply into it than like a
30:25
couple second description on a w um people sites disappear Creator is
30:29
still moving ahead with release that is what he opened right yes so the people
30:33
website is inaccessible for many some just getting a landing page social
30:37
Outlets such as people's Twitter and people's Facebook pages have been taken
30:40
down but co-creator Julia cordre is
30:43
still planning to release the app pushing its release date from November
30:47
to next week probably just because how much people have been talking about it
30:50
you got to jump on that hype train as much as you can adjustments to the app
30:53
include individuals individuals cannot be reviewed without their permission
30:57
which is probably a good idea um no way to make a negative review at all
31:01
apparently and review must be approved before it is posted so basically it's
31:06
just going to be a circle jerk of everyone telling each other that they're great because nothing else is going to
31:09
get approved um unless people want to be self-deprecating about it Emily laad law
31:15
a University Calgary assistant law professor says the app could potentially
31:19
have huge legal ramifications for its creators which is super not surprising
31:24
she also states that in Canada if you run an app or you're hosting a website
31:27
and you are informed that you're carrying content that is
31:31
defamatory um you have you now have
31:34
knowledge and you have control so you risk liability if you don't take the
31:37
content
31:42
down that being said they probably won't
31:46
run or host it in Canada so that probably doesn't matter
31:50
but they could there is actually one
31:53
good hosting company in Canada that I know of maybe a few more than that
31:57
um so who knows I don't know I can't really open another topic so let me
32:06
try give me one second what we're going to talk about as lonus comes
32:11
back um can you open that topic it's
32:14
hard like around the which one Japan Japan one oh that is so
32:19
cool yeah I'm like super stoked on this so Japan display 8K 17in l CD
32:30
bam why are you super stoked on that I don't know it's cool can you tell the
32:35
difference between a 4K screen at that
32:40
size
32:44
um maybe yeah yeah probably 4K and
32:48
ak8 well okay uh to be fair I heard you
32:52
talking and didn't read it and heard 7 in and was like why does he care 1 in
32:57
makes a little bit more sense yes yeah yeah 17 in I mean to to be clear okay
33:01
okay like that okay like
33:06
it okay it's just cool because it's like nerdy cool yeah it's cool because it's
33:10
510 PPI on a 17inch screen yeah bad this
33:15
isn't groundbreaking pixels per inch even like Sony's upcoming Xperia Z5 is
33:19
going to be like 700 but that's not 17 in but it's not 17 in and it's a mere 4K
33:27
display so it's actually one qu as many pixels as they've managed to build here
33:31
I got to wonder how much does it cost them to build this thing this is cool
33:35
though um so the module can actually run
33:40
at a refresh rate of 120 htz I don't know what they're using to
33:44
drive this thing because there's no display there's no off-the-shelf display
33:50
interface in existence that can drive 8K
33:53
at 60 HZ let alone 120 HZ that and I'm
33:56
talking I obviously there's other stuff that exists but I'm talking like you
34:00
know your HDMI or your DisplayPort or
34:03
Heaven forbit DVI or whatever else the case may be um so I have no idea what
34:08
they're using to drive this thing in fact I've been tempted at CES sometimes
34:12
to be like okay so that's an 8K TV
34:15
you're playing back some 8K content can I can I see what's behind here like what
34:20
is plugged into this how are you running
34:23
this like it must just be like a proprietary Flash bed like direct to the
34:28
display interface or something like could you build it as memory into the
34:32
display maybe maybe like you like if you
34:37
actually used RAM like if you just had like flash based storage that loaded it
34:40
into RAM that interfaced directly with the display like I have no idea how
34:44
they're like 8 8K okay so hold on 8K
34:49
resolution let's find out what that is so that's
34:52
7680 by 4320 Okay so
34:59
calculator what what what why are these things happening to
35:04
me calculator okay so
35:07
76 80 RCA times no I know a bunch of people
35:13
are saying that in chat no I can't like no many people are saying that why would
35:18
that work so this is 33 mega pixels like
35:22
think think about it if you're if you're like a DSLR photographer so you take
35:25
high resolution photos even then you're not taking 33 megapixel photos how long
35:30
it takes just to like open one of them
35:34
on your computer so we're talking 120 of
35:37
those per second freaking
35:41
bananas um sometimes I don't really
35:44
understand is this a Colton thing like how that gets classified as a main topic
35:50
and like other stuff gets classified as
35:53
like a rapid fire topic I don't know I often do not really understand the logic
35:58
because there's nothing to really say other than like that looks bananas I
36:01
guess I'll enjoy it in about four or five years still saying RCA the twitch
36:06
chat is great also I can't believe that you
36:11
didn't think of having 60 different VGA connections
36:15
together what why not yeah that's probably it all right so the Dell XPS
36:20
lineup has been refreshed oh we haven't been saying who's been posting stuff on
36:24
the Forum so this is from Sir squid the Japan display one is from Good Bites The
36:28
People site disappearing is from stuarty 211 the Australian researchers with the
36:33
quantum computer thing is kill comic smartphones being hacked into with just
36:36
one text message comes from Cyborg warriar and liquid cooling moving on to
36:40
the chip is from numpad all right so I am sort of stoked
36:47
on certain things and super stoked on others so the things I mostly don't give
36:51
a crap about are the XPS 13 refresh and
36:54
XPS 15
36:57
so about those I guess they have slim bezels which is cool that is cool it's
37:02
cool but the the old XPS 13 that they announced at CES this year had really
37:06
Slim bezels I reviewed it it was nice the old one that they announced at CES
37:10
this year well whatever I mean the slightly less the slightly less new one
37:16
Whatever whatever you want to call it so the 13 and 15 are getting updated
37:20
processors and packing more storage into their thin frames finally they're
37:24
available 16 gigs of RAM definitely care
37:27
about that I ripped on the universal thing I ripped on the 13 so hard for
37:33
only going up to 8 gigs of RAM considering how much money was getting
37:36
spent on that computer there's an optional NVIDIA gddr5
37:41
GPU that can be added to the notebook so they're being koi again so NVIDIA
37:45
basically is like yeah you can
37:49
uh you can announce it but uh don't tell
37:53
people what it is or whatever I'm trying to do like a
37:57
it was supposed to be a cigar I think that came off as weed yeah whatever well
38:02
I I screwed up the handan thing yeah I made an effort um it's cigar
38:07
like maybe like or what did you cigar
38:10
but that's both yeah that's kind yeah I don't know you got to like make sure it's big yeah maybe I didn't make sure
38:15
it was big enough I mean that could just be like a really
38:19
big that's true I mean that when when
38:22
the Blunt's too strong yeah that would be totally totally totally big but then
38:27
like you were saying earlier in the show it can never be too big around
38:31
circumference diameter these are good things um so I can have up to one
38:35
terabyte of PCI Express based storage
38:38
and I don't know they still have webcams on the bottom of the screen which is kind of a bummer if you have like kind
38:43
of an upturned nose and you don't want people looking at your brain while they
38:46
talk to you um okay but the XPS 12 this
38:49
is the one I care about because I used an XPS 12 for man it must have been like
38:54
over a year I was using that as my da driver in fact Luke's inherited it now
38:59
great little device it's been durable it's been rained on it's survived it's
39:04
got a great keyboard love that device so it is finally getting an upgrade um 12 1
39:09
12 inch full HD display with an upgrade to a 4K touchscreen two Thunderbolt 3
39:15
ports using USB type-c connectors has support for the Dell pen if you care and
39:20
uh dell is positioning it as a competitor to the Surface Pro 4 I am
39:25
super excited because I like the concept
39:28
of um a convertible that doesn't have a
39:32
kickstand versus a convertible that does have a kickstand quite a bit
39:38
more let's see if I can if I can pull up some pictures here new xps2 here we go
39:44
so it remains to be seen for me if this hinge design is going to light as many
39:50
fires for me as the uh the old pin wheel
39:53
design did we can actually we can show that here here so check it out so this
39:58
is the way the old XP well we broke it a bit when we dropped it broke it a little
40:01
bit but it it usually like that was that was a pretty good just it it popping out
40:07
doesn't work as well as it used to yeah it going back in is so you turn it
40:10
around flip it into a tablet this one is using a bit of a different approach here
40:14
but um yeah so it's like actually
40:18
disconnecting and reconnecting but I still like that better than I like the
40:22
whole kickstand thing because the kickstand is so inflexible like if
40:25
you're not sitting on a table it's kind
40:29
of inconvenient like even sitting on an airplane very inconvenient I hate
40:32
kickstands which which is like if I was going to pitch you know who is the
40:36
Surface Pro designed for I would go okay you know maybe the traveler but the the
40:41
airline trays are so slim that you can't actually put your keyboard in the
40:45
kickstand on the back of it the good news is that I did discover that you can
40:48
kind of lean it against the seat in front of you but it's definitely not as
40:52
secure I wouldn't trust it as much um
40:56
this is huge original article here from The Verge posted by run on the
41:03
Forum Volvo yeah says it will take the
41:06
blame if one of its self-driving cars crashes so does this mean you wouldn't
41:11
have to have insurance no I think you
41:15
would still need insurance but I think your insurance company would go to
41:19
Volvo for the claim so there it'll
41:22
likely be like a convoluted process I'd imagine there's all kinds of legal
41:26
ramifications here like from one country to another this might be implemented
41:30
somewhat differently um but basically up
41:35
until now no one's been willing to step up and say okay if an automated car
41:40
running in autonomous mode by the way if you crash it they're not taking
41:44
responsibility for it right so you'd have to have insurance because there's manual mode yes so running in autonomous
41:49
mode no one has really stepped up and said okay yes we will take
41:53
responsibility for this you know whether it's your your Google or or your car
41:56
manufacturer your insurance company or I mean the
42:00
owner as as sort of a driver I would
42:03
kind of go oh shoot you know like I
42:06
don't if I make though I'm probably not as good as a self-driving car I would
42:11
rather take responsibility for my own actions instead of the possibility of
42:15
taking responsibility for one others yes thank you that was very succinct yeah so
42:21
and it's frustrating and that's a huge problem with self-driving cars in general so it's cool that these guys are
42:25
actually standing up um I would like to see everyone else uh everyone else
42:28
that's making self-driving cars do the same thing although proving that it was
42:32
properly in self-driving mode could
42:36
prove to be difficult good job with it that's cool they want hacking a car um
42:41
turned into a criminal offense I don't think they'll have a problem doing that
42:44
but they also need to properly defend their own cars yes uh we saw this
42:48
problem with Jeep and all that kind of stuff the only ones doing it properly right now are Tesla if everyone takes
42:52
the same stance as Tesla I'd be okay with that but if people just leave giant
42:56
holes in the security of their vehicles and they go like well it's illegal it's
42:59
illegal you probably shouldn't do it then that's still not okay
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actually like about that is that it has Dolby Surround Sound and DTS and you can
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have either one of them on or you can have them off because I do know that
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there's some people that wouldn't want that touching their sound yep so you can
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just turn it off so that's a good thing but if you think it's a bad thing you
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can just turn it off which makes it a good thing I just want to clarify that
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good job yay uh there's a couple other things that I've already observed about
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it I did get handson with it although I didn't get to listen to it unfortunately
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at P um and it's that they actually just they took a common sense
46:47
approach which seems like the kind of thing that I shouldn't really have to
46:51
say is amazing it's not super common with gaming headsets though I know so
46:56
it's a point that is good to make but the ear cups are actually designed in
46:59
like the shape of a human ear as opposed to whatever types of ears are around
47:04
like perfect circles to be fair he he yeah he doesn't mean like they they
47:08
exactly follow the shape of human ear but like they're they're more vertical
47:11
yeah they're they're shaped in somewhat the shape of a human ear um so yeah I
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actually I think this is not our wow
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like showcase sample this is supposed to be my review sample so I'm supposed to
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be working on a review so stay stay tuned for that but in the meantime if
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you guys want to check it out there's a link that I posted in the chat I'm going
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to go ahead and post it one more time and if you guys are watching the archive then the link is in the video
47:34
description to where you can check it out on
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Amazon there's also like a how they made
47:40
it video where I have a very very short comment on the end about how I thought
47:44
they were oh yeah oh yeah that's right I I didn't want to comment on it in- depth
47:49
and I'll say basically the same thing here which was I I didn't have direct
47:53
comparative data to things that I use all the time and I didn't have the music
47:56
that I use all the time right so I can't like very accurately say exactly how
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they sound but I was pleasantly surprised for a gaming headset and they
48:05
didn't if you put it on and didn't tell me it was a gaming headset which you can
48:09
hide the mic very well so you might have been able to convince me I wouldn't have
48:12
immediately thought it was a gaming headset which is like pretty good price
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well I will be uh I will be pulling out all the headphones so so that's the
48:20
proper audio review you should so take that wait for yeah so this is
48:24
interesting this is actually it's funny this isn't rapid fire but this is the
48:27
first thing we've really talked about today that actually has some discussion
48:31
that we can do about it uh the video game voice actors give the national
48:35
board the green light to vote to strike if
48:38
needed so there you go the original article here is from Gamespot and this
48:43
was an overwhelmingly positive response to the vote here with
48:47
96.52% of members voting in favor of the
48:50
interactive media agreement strike authorization referendum they only needed 75% in order for this to get
48:57
authorized uh or for in order to give the national board that Authority and so
49:02
basically what they're coming to the negotiating table with is um let's see
49:08
so the original agreement was signed in the mid1 1990s and it's still in effect
49:11
today despite very significant industry changes like we're talking in the days
49:16
when a game Studio like oh I don't know blizzard would have been a small company
49:23
um to now Blockbuster games getting as
49:27
much or more if you look at stuff like Grand Theft Auto 5 spent on them
49:31
compared to a Blockbuster movie which are three was 80 million too the
49:34
industry is very very different today and the board is basically asking for a
49:39
couple of things so better transparency in the addition process for games and
49:44
they are asking for I think they're asking for some um when the parts that
49:48
they're that they're doing are particularly strenuous they're asking
49:51
for limits to how long they can work for uh at a time and they're asking for
49:56
better compensation including a performance bonus for every 2 million
50:01
copies SL subscribers sold of a game so
50:05
that's the part that I want to talk about because who who gets the performance
50:12
bonus when something does really well I
50:16
know that there have been cases where actors have negotiated such a thing but
50:21
it usually comes along with negoti
50:26
for a low salary to participate in the project bring that up that's that's
50:30
usually a per case thing usually only
50:33
the really big actors get it and it's
50:37
like I think probably I'd say that it's probably less common now due to people
50:43
seeing how ridiculously epic it was like didn't didn't um I'm going to forget his
50:47
name which is going to make me a terrible person but the actor that played Han Solo really Harrison Harrison
50:53
Ford didn't Harrison Ford get a like the
50:56
copy sold whatever agreement on Star Wars um wasn't that just insane hold on
51:02
I'm not sure I'm not sure I feel like someone did in that chat I feel like
51:05
someone did and I don't remember who it was someone in twitch chat is probably
51:09
already telling us well in between slaying me for forgetting his name yeah
51:14
people are like oh wow wow
51:17
no wow Luke is dead to me he forgot Ford
51:21
oh wow wow wow wow wow how does he not know her Luke lost all nerd cred you are
51:28
St remember the guy's name on the show I remember Han Solo but I remember
51:31
Harrison Ford Alec Guinness Alec Guinness it was Obi-Wan Kenobi there we
51:36
go he did that okay yeah there and then he made like huge amounts of money off
51:40
of it yeah yeah I'm not convinced he ever worked again uh and apparently
51:45
Spielberg also got a royalty cut from Lucas um so so anyway the point is if
51:50
the movie does really well that can be very disastrous for the folks that are
51:55
investing the actual money into the project I mean with that said it's not
52:00
like an investment of time isn't also an investment but it gets it gets looked at
52:06
a little bit differently when we're talking about the actual money that gets
52:10
paid out when the project gets super successful so companies tend to shy away
52:17
from agreements like that because it means that they can't really control
52:21
their costs after the fact so I don't
52:24
know do do you think it is fair for voice actors to ask for royalties based
52:30
on how many copies are sold I don't necessarily think that it's fair that
52:36
that is a guarantee in every single
52:39
contract right I think that it is fair for them to ask I think it is fair for
52:43
them to negotiate for right I don't know if as a company I would hire as many
52:49
voice actors and this is something I think they need to realize if I know
52:53
that every single voice actor that I hire is going to get a performance bonus
52:56
for every 2 million copies of the game that I sell and for games that try to
53:00
strive for having every single one of their characters having an individual
53:04
voice actor which is awesome that is
53:08
super cool when you're playing a game that everyone you talk to sounds different right I wouldn't want to pay
53:13
them each individual one of them out unless it's like 50 cents per which they
53:16
probably have some extra lines saying that it has to be a certain percentage or whatever so I don't know that makes
53:22
me a little bit uneasy um but I do think
53:26
the ability to request it should be there right and I mean quite frankly
53:31
that probably already exists I mean if you're freaking Samuel L Jackson or
53:35
something and you're like yep I'm going to want a performance bonus based on
53:39
what was it in Fallout 3 li niss I think like like there's there's pretty big
53:43
names that do these voice acting things and I'm sure they could pull for
53:46
leverage on that if they really wanted to I don't know if I agree with it being in every single contract having more
53:52
transparency super cool um possibly
53:55
getting compensated better you know what
53:58
I want really good voice actors if that helps really good voice actors be a
54:01
thing cool um yeah I had actually
54:05
speaking of really good voice actors it's funny um I saw some comments on the
54:09
um this was posted by booo on the Forum by the way and in the original thread I
54:13
saw some comments from people saying like oh why are they being such
54:17
all they do is like sit in front of their microphone and like voice act it's
54:22
easy it's not as easy as you'd think yeah it's
54:26
I tried doing there was do it there was skywind skywind is like a a whole bunch
54:30
of people are trying to develop for skywind and I decided that I would try to do voice acting because they were
54:34
looking for voice actors to do a whole bunch of different parts and I knew I
54:37
had like an okay mic it was the snowball wasn't great but like they said on the
54:42
thing that it was one of the approved mics and I was going to try to get like a ghetto pop filter for it and stuff and
54:47
I went through the list trying to pick like what could my voice work for in
54:50
here and I'm like wow
54:53
nothing oh wow wow and then like found something it would work for did like 80
54:58
takes of the one line that I had to do remembering and listening to that line
55:02
being delivered from the original mowind and then eventually being like nope
55:06
there's better people they'll do it I suck and moving on yeah I mean
55:10
especially when you you don't even have any actions to go along with it and you
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can't even necessarily look at the character doing what they're supposed to
55:17
be doing like trying to emote in a way that is going to not look and sound
55:22
completely weird and unnatural when the players experiencing it is not an easy
55:27
task and you could kind of go oh well you know once they practice it up and
55:31
get good at it then it's easy for them well you know what that's the investment
55:35
they made yeah into developing a skill I mean quite frankly here here I'm going
55:40
to I'm going to blow your mind pretty much everything is easy yeah if you
55:45
break it down enough is Plumbing rocket
55:49
science no so why is it that I have to
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pay someone $75 an hour to come to my house and do it because I don't know how
55:58
and because that person invested that time into learning how and if I were to
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go and educate myself on how to do it for the four times in my entire life
56:08
that it'll ever come up and go acquire all the tools another investment that I
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would need in order to do it with any standard of quality I would spend more
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than it cost to just pay someone to do it that is how these things work some
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people think math is very easy and they're probably just ifed to a certain
56:25
degree and some people think art is very easy and they're probably Justified to a
56:29
certain degree and some but not all of those people don't cross
56:34
over some things are easy for some people and their heart for oh okay well
56:37
I was talking more in terms of like like practical practical things I wasn't
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necessarily talking about I
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wasn't okay by practical I mean things that you like do you don't do math you
56:50
don't you're not being very helpful I wasn't talking about I wasn't talking
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about like a high High L thinking conceptual stuff or or subjective art I
56:59
was talking about things like like Plumbing or things like dryw Walling is
57:03
drywalling hard not if you know how to do it but you have to actually learn how
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to oh shut up shut up with your math he
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just he just he likes ragging on me because I can't do math both of the
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things you said both have math involved plumbing and drywalling both have math
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involved all right so our Technica has
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without math AR Technica has their Android marshmallow review this was
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posted by Z mule on the Forum um
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basically brings in a lot of user requested features but still has no
57:38
update solution I'm glad that ARS brought this up because it really is the
57:43
Achilles heel of Android right now the
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fact that there is just no strategy in
57:50
place to address the way that Apple updates their older devices and that
57:55
Microsoft is coming out saying yep Windows 10 is like the last Windows and
57:59
I'm sure there's an asterisk in there somewhere but the last until we
58:02
releaseing other Windows yeah um but but but basically it's a statement about
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support as well where they're saying on notebooks on desktops on phones we want
58:12
this to be the Windows that just kind of you you you do rolling updates to the
58:16
way that you would with a with a mobile OS um so there's some good stuff there's
58:20
a new home screen with some genuinely useful features like app search
58:23
predictive apps and scrolling I feel like we talked about this last week we
58:27
did yes yeah we covered this last week why the hell is this in the W show dog I
58:31
don't know um w i I think it's not the first time
58:38
this has happened but it hasn't happened in a while it's been a bit uh there are
58:42
some more companies added to the diesel
58:46
emissions Scandal Mercedes Benz Honda
58:49
Mazda and Mitsubishi that's not a small amount
58:55
at all yep so things are getting real here
59:06
kids so in some uh realistic onroad test
59:10
some Honda models emitted six times the regulatory limit while some unnamed 4x4
59:15
models had 20 times the limit coming out of their exhaust pipes last week uh whoa
59:20
I'm going to fail at seeing a bunch of these is it Rena
59:25
Renault Nissan hyai citen Fiat Volvo and
59:28
Jeep were all that added to the list last week uh I think it's Renault
59:32
Renault Renault so Renault Renault whatever
59:37
someone's going to correct us we're going to get slammed I haven't watched
59:40
enough Top Gear yeah oh we're getting slammed yeah whatever I there goes um so
59:46
so this is hilarious uh vw's uh North
59:49
American I want to say president or something like Anyway
59:52
basically came out and said like like it was a couple of Rogue
59:57
Engineers who did this behind everyone's
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back I'm paraphrasing and uh so
60:04
so yeah and then and then basically just pulled the diesel lineup from North
60:08
America which is about one in five of the cars that they're selling across VW
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and Audi in North America so it is it is
60:16
going to be dark times for VW over the next little bit here and um this is
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interesting some consumers are are refusing the
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recall and in California I believe
60:29
there's legislation that can um cause
60:32
them to not be able to reregister their vehicle I was going to say you're not
60:36
they're illegal to be on the road you can't just but in some states there is
60:41
actually no law in place that would prevent people from continuing to drive
60:46
the vehicle even though wouldn't they have to pass like environmental stand is
60:49
that because we have that up here do they not have Air Care is gone oh yes
60:55
yeah air Care's gone it was dissolved I think last year that doesn't seem like a
60:59
good idea I don't know um anyway the
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point is some people citing performance
61:06
concerns cuz it it will nerf the car a bit are saying they don't want their car
61:10
recalled they don't want it fixed I don't want your car dumping crap into
61:14
the air yeah I mean it has been it has been one like there's some there's some
61:17
more numbers out now I think it's something like 400,000 California has
61:22
Mission standards but it depends on the state in some states they just don't
61:27
care I said that I'm clarified oh okay cuz you said you think didn't you oh
61:31
maybe okay so yes California for sure um
61:35
anyway so it's something along the lines of 350 or 400,000 cars um I I this was
61:40
an article I was just reading earlier today it's not I don't have notes on it
61:44
but um that are using like a first gen engine or something like that that
61:48
requires not just a software update but
61:51
also physical changes High larious and then I think
61:56
it's only the third gen and maybe second gen ones that can maybe be fixed with a
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software update so this is this is I
62:03
mean the the the the bottomless the bottomless pit of how much this is going
62:08
to cost VW just continues to to gape
62:13
open um yeah this is looking pretty
62:16
ugly actually some of these topics are kind of boring so I think I'm just going
62:21
to kind of skim over a lot of them w w
62:25
what ones are you skimming so I know where to show I don't know kind of kind of a lot of them oh wrecked um oh this
62:30
is cool so Anon article here the iPhone
62:35
6s and 6s plus uh they uh Anon showed
62:40
some preliminary results that revealed that they are using an NVMe SSD which is
62:47
a huge huge deal they also appear to be
62:51
using a smart SLC kind of hybrid SLC TLC
62:56
Nan solution that gives it really fast Burst performance with slower sustained
63:01
performance something that's not terribly important because you would almost never be writing like huge files
63:08
continuously that would exceed what the TLC flash is capable of like even
63:12
recording video continuously is going to be fine it's been measured at up to I
63:18
think uh I've gotten my notes up
63:23
to uh uh sequential read speeds in the
63:26
neighborhood of oh balls no I I don't think that I don't think that number is
63:30
right so I'm just going to I'm just going to ignore it um sequential reads
63:34
of okay oh yeah 256 kiloby sequential reads in megabytes per second of 400
63:39
Megs per second with sequential rights of 160 megabytes per second so we're
63:44
talking getting pretty close to an entrylevel SSD controller in here not to
63:51
mention that because it's NVMe random per performance is significantly
63:55
improved I had been trying to put my finger on cuz I I have not done any
64:00
actual can't put your finger on thank you objective benchmarks on the iPhone
64:05
6s but I've been trying to put my finger on why the crap app launching and
64:11
switching was so fast and features like
64:15
the uh the 3D touch to preview web pages
64:19
why web pages even seem to load faster like everything about this phone is just
64:24
so fast and I was like yeah the CPU is
64:27
better but that really doesn't account for enough of the difference in
64:32
performance it's because the nand absolutely blows away anything that
64:37
we've ever seen before like here's the graph on an ontech comparing this to so
64:42
here's the 6 Plus 6s plus up at the top
64:45
here so the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus were
64:48
already pretty fast but compared to the Galaxy S6 it's like almost twice as fast
64:54
that's killer so um so yeah the iPhone yes it's
64:59
an expensive phone yes Apple charges a lot for phones but this is a
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conversation that I've been meaning to have on wano for a little bit
65:08
oops oh look it worked everyone looks at
65:12
something expensive and wants to use the word
65:16
overpriced immediately what is
65:19
overpriced overpriced means you're not
65:23
getting something for your money compared to what you could get for that
65:27
money somewhere else if someone's like
65:30
no this costs more because okay look at the razor blade you could say the razor
65:34
blade 14 is overpriced okay compared to what compare
65:40
it to something if you want something that has all the stuff that it has slim
65:45
design high powered GPU uh that's the
65:49
only definition of overpriced well what does overpriced mean then if you have a
65:53
chocolate bar and there's no other chocolate bars that are exactly like that chocolate bar and you charge $50
65:58
for that chocolate bar it's probably still
66:01
overpriced yes because other similar chocolate bars that could have similar
66:07
features and similar performance in your mouth but what if they don't what if
66:12
they don't what if it actually tastes 50 times better than another chocolate bar
66:15
it's not over actually taste 50 times better right because if I just like put
66:19
chunks of licorice in my chocolate bar no other chocolate bar has that that's a
66:23
unique feature you cannot get that anywhere else you'd have to tear the
66:26
chocolate bar apart and put it back together that's not the same that's not
66:29
an outof package experience therefore you could price it as whatever you want
66:33
but if you price it $50 it's obviously overpriced okay so bringing it back to
66:36
you can't just do comparative data for overpriced so bringing it back to your
66:40
phone has be value but but okay but with
66:43
the okay fine but let's talk value because that's why I'm saying you have
66:47
to compare it to other stuff that's out there so if you take the iPhone 6s and
66:50
you go yeah this costs a lot more than a Galaxy S6 but
66:54
it has this technology that the other thing completely straight up doesn't
66:58
have because Apple went and invested in building their own NVMe solution they
67:03
they built their own storage so is it is it it's not off the shelf okay it's kind
67:08
of like what they did in the iMac uh the iMac 27in retina where they're like okay
67:13
well nothing can drive 5K so we're just going build our grand for the phone then
67:17
it would be overpriced overpriced can be independent value can be seen
67:21
independently yes it should cost more
67:24
they have put more research into it the thing that is inside is better than the
67:28
other thing that is inside the other thing it should cost more but it should cost a scalable amount more I'm not even
67:32
saying you're necessarily wrong for just the phone but saying that overpriced is
67:36
based off of comparing it to something else that's similar is not technically
67:39
right something can be overpriced on its own well it can be you have to compare
67:42
to something to evaluate what if there isn't something to compare to because I
67:46
didn't say it's not worth it or it's worth
67:50
it overprice yeah value is is no no no
67:54
overpriced is okay so here let's take
67:58
another good example would be um okay
68:01
like a diamond studded phone okay okay
68:05
does it cost $50,000 yes is it overpriced if it has
68:09
you know 40,000 or $45,000 worth of diamonds on it no okay actually diamonds
68:14
are a bad example because they are by definition overpriced because they're
68:18
actually worthless okay so let's talk let's talk a solid gold phone then okay
68:23
so if this if the value's in the gold and there's a reasonable amount of
68:26
markup then it wouldn't be overpriced right that so it's not overpriced that's
68:29
what I'm saying so if the feature I wasn't trying to say the same thing not
68:33
necessarily I wasn't saying that the phone you are talking about is even
68:37
overpriced that wasn't my argument okay because it might be worth the value
68:41
because there's like I said technologies that are in it that are better than the
68:45
other ones so it should cost more because they invested in it and they made it better and then they should
68:48
charge more for it that's how markets work but saying that something is
68:52
overpriced solely because you're comparing it to one other
68:56
thing that you can look at it from more angles than that you were saying that
69:01
you you determine if something is overpriced by comparing it to something
69:04
thing yeah you can say something is overpriced if there's nothing to compare
69:08
it to if I offer a stick well okay that
69:11
happens to have you would still compare because you would have to compare so
69:15
let's go back to your chocolate bar you would have to compare it to the cost of Licorice and
69:19
chocolate that's still a comparison you
69:22
have to compare to something because otherwise there's no
69:26
point of reference like how much does Jupiter cost Hollow lens Hollow lens
69:30
okay it's $3,000 it's $3,000 yeah what
69:34
if Hollow lens was $50,000 if it was $50,000 $3,000 is like oh but they have
69:39
a whole bunch of tech in there that might be interesting I don't know how much that cost same thing you have to
69:43
you have to break it back down not going to cost 50 Grand that would be
69:47
overpriced won't yeah what are you going to compare it to you would compare it to
69:50
you can't compare it to the $3,000 version that doesn't exist no no you can't compare it to what's actually in
69:55
it so is it made of unobtanium then
69:58
that's what I'm saying so if it has an NVMe device in it it's not in the other one it's fine but you don't have to
70:02
compare it to another phone that doesn't have it in it you have to compare it to
70:06
what made up the phone okay I see yes you can do that it has to be value
70:10
there's going to be markups there's going distributions can you can individualize the the problem is that a
70:15
lot of people don't consider like because if you look at bomb cost a lot
70:19
of people when they say oh the iPhone is overpriced they don't consider that
70:23
there's an enormous team of people working on it for a year but they they
70:27
that's because they're ignorant oh okay
70:31
what was because there's R&D teams there's distribution there's manufacturing there's there's
70:38
resale I don't really remember my original point and I don't know what
70:42
yours is mine was that you were
70:45
stating the the how how you were like
70:49
lining up your phrase was not right
70:52
you're saying everyone's wrong because everyone Compares overpriced this thing
70:55
CU saying it's overpriced because of whatever I'm going to have to go back
70:58
and watch the archive and figure out what the crap I said okay my point is
71:04
that you can't just say something's overpriced because it's
71:07
expensive yes you cannot say that it's
71:11
it's that's stupid because really you can't do it yes because something could
71:16
be very expensive and it could still be a phone and it could not be overpriced
71:21
because there's whether it's full of gold or whether it is full of a bunch of
71:26
technology that was very expensive to develop you can you can say that doesn't
71:32
have a value to me and therefore I will not spend my money on it but that
71:37
doesn't mean it's overpriced that means
71:40
you don't want to buy it or you can't
71:44
buy it because it costs too much for you to justify compared to the other things
71:48
in your life like for example let's take okay let's let's take the model S great
71:53
example is it overpriced no is it too
71:56
expensive for me yes yes is it okay in
72:00
this context is it overpriced for me
72:03
sure so like for for my means it's
72:06
overpriced but that doesn't mean it's overpriced it means it's just expensive
72:11
so there that's the distinction I'm trying to make the difference between
72:15
overpriced and expensive deal with it
72:19
sunglasses and they're not the same thing okay so anyway a lot of people say
72:25
the iPhone is overpriced but in this
72:28
context or in this case Apple has delivered something that is truly
72:33
different and truly unique in spite of the fact that it looks exact like
72:37
exactly the same thing as the previous damn iPhone it looks like they haven't
72:40
done a bloody thing but they went they developed a new processor they developed
72:43
a new storage solution that flips things on that flips the industry on its head
72:48
in a way that hasn't been done before much like apple went and introduced the
72:52
retina display and then all of a sudden like the Android handset makers they
72:56
they never know when it's been enough of a good thing and they're like okay um
73:01
1080p uh uh 1440p 4K and then Apple runs
73:05
and goes meanwhile you idiots are all
73:08
increasing your freaking screen resolution for no reason we're going to
73:12
go and make the storage faster which totally makes sense because in computers
73:16
if you're making a computer for someone who wants to do a lot of the things that you're going to be doing on a phone not
73:20
everything I know but a lot of the things you're doing on the phone a lot of times in SSD is their biggest upgrade
73:25
yes and you know it's really funny because people Everyone loves to get
73:28
pissed off and be like apple never invented anything and you know what in
73:32
this case Apple didn't invent NVMe they didn't invent ssds they didn't invent
73:38
the concept of fast storage being important but they ran out and they
73:42
actually did it they put it in a product and no one else had the balls someone in
73:46
the chat is saying they didn't do that part of it was Samsung it doesn't matter
73:49
it's in that phone who cares who cares it's in that phone Apple cut the PO yeah
73:54
apple put their money where their mouth was they ordered the Nan chips they
73:58
ordered the controllers they invested in the R&D to put it in a phone and they
74:02
put it in a phone no one else had the balls or the resources or some
74:07
combination of the two to just do it and
74:11
that's what it sometimes comes down to you don't have to invent it you just
74:14
have to do it we didn't invent a weekly
74:17
podcast no that concept existed since
74:22
before I like knew how to I don't know I'm trying to
74:26
come up with something inter host of anything I think got people saying this
74:29
topic sucks I don't care uh it's my podcast so and his too actually we share
74:34
a a so we didn't invent the concept of
74:38
of of a video podcast but we went and did it so we didn't invent the concept
74:43
of YouTube videos yep I the concept of
74:47
unboxings nope nope in fact I just did
74:50
unboxings because I was like I need to do product overviews and I need a
74:54
keyword that's like somewhat somewhat useful yeah people are like we hate this
75:00
topic and other people are like I love this topic want to talk about something
75:04
that we used to hate and that is hopefully getting less worse what are we
75:09
talking about KN for Speed from EA oh yes this isn't in the dock um but I'll
75:14
throw the link in the chat and you should be able to Google this pretty easily the one I'm looking at is on PC
75:18
Gamer just look at PC Gamer KN for Speed you should be able to find it sure um
75:22
I'll throw it in twitch chat this was like ah I my my brain is like not okay
75:29
with accepting this but EA looks like they're doing cool
75:32
things which is good we have to give them credit for doing cool things I just
75:37
I have trust issues when it comes to EA um are you going to
75:41
pre-order no I will not um Need for
75:44
Speed is not going to have any
75:48
microtransactions in the game they're saying that for sure but they're saying
75:51
it probably won't have paid DLC so I'm
75:55
going to go with there's probably going to be paid DLC and car customization is
75:59
like huge and expansive and awesome and
76:02
it looks like an old Need for Speed game and that makes me really excited right
76:06
down to the shiny road yeah that's cool
76:09
I don't care this this whole time I've just wanted like the old school style
76:13
Need for Speed games and just I saw I
76:16
saw an example of someone driving around and the car physics looked ridiculous
76:20
and I was like yay thank you you know what's really funny about this is that
76:25
all EA ever had to do to make Need for
76:28
Speed fans happy is apply their NHL NBA
76:35
formula to Need for Speed here it is the same game new roster please and they
76:40
would have people would have actually just been happy every time I played a KN
76:43
for Speed game back in the day I was like wow this story Line's terrible and
76:47
I love it cuz that's not the point and I
76:51
want to not feel bad for skipping cut scenes ever and I just want to go into
76:55
some crazy race and then have cops chase me for no reason and then have things
76:59
blow up no reason you're speeding smash into some other car and then be like LOL
77:04
and just go around the corner and my car is fine anyways and be going so fast in
77:08
one of the games that grinding against the wall to go around the corner was
77:11
actually more effective than Breaking KN for Speed that was awesome I'm just
77:16
trying to picture you getting pulled over by a cop be like there was no
77:19
reason there was no reason going 200 miles hour yeah
77:24
all right well I think that pretty much wraps it up for our topics
77:28
today um yeah I got nothing else thank you guys very much for tuning in we will
77:32
see you again next week same bat Time same bat
77:38
Channel vot can't leave the
77:43
int we have
77:52
any
78:05
watch yeah I have to film three fastest posses right now and I also am tired
78:12
so maybe we'll just do a very