The WAN Show - Virtual Girlfriend + Windows 10 Holograms = End of Society? - Jan 23, 2015
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2015-05-07
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things actually working i know Linus is not here he's off doing
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something if you saw my tweet he actually did show up in the room sat
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down we filmed the intro for youtube and then he left again so like i tried i
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almost had him here anyways we just decided to just go he's gonna be back so
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he's coming at some point anyways we've got cool topics for you obviously the
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Windows 10 conference happened so we'll be talking about that a ton it probably
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won't be as ridiculous as the facebook bought oculus thing but we'll be talking
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about it quite a bit the gtx 960 has officially launched as anyone who has a
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youtube account is sure to have noticed that every single person ever released a
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gtx 960 video also nintendo has announced the end of
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club nintendo but it's all not bad news
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so we'll talk about that later as well get the good news out there and the gtx
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970 may not be able to utilize its four gigabytes of vram entirely hmm
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talk about that later on as well rule the intro
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who are the sponsors again today uh it's right there
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yay lynda.com our favorite monster truck
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simulation online that's not what they do nope for
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learning online learning hence the book videos and stuff yeah well that the book
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makes less sense in that context but yes well linda read the book and then she
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told you through the videos i actually think a lot of the things
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that you learn on lynda.com have no application where you would really
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want to learn them for like would you learn photoshop from a book you could
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well what you wouldn't learn from a book is how to save money on your razors and
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other bathroom supplies you could you you you could but nobody could be like
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uh saving money on razors and bathroom surprise supplies for dummies no one
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wants to read the book on saving money on bathroom surprise
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oh no all right oh man sorry i just had to review something whenever i do a
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particularly negative video about a
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product i tend to want to cross all my t's and dot all my eyes because the last
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thing i need is uh a lawsuit for
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defamation or like anything like that yeah yeah that's right it's different
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from a reformation which is taking people who aren't famous and making them
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famous again um like
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carrie fisher anyway let's go ahead and
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maybe just start start this show so we're going to
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kick off with the one thing in the show that i actually didn't look into at all
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so you're on your own for this one backed by NVIDIA katopsys brings
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microsoft's illumiroom vision to life so
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you knew about aluminum a luma room wow i can totally talk when i'm sick uh you
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know the illumiroom concept right where there's the tv screen and then the
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illumiroom projector which would be behind you essentially extends the tv
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screen to try and make it more immersive well they actually kind of did it and
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it's called whatever it's called how is the name of
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it not in here immerses there we go the name of it's not in the title nice
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trying to post anyways um it happens to be an expected price of twenty five
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hundred dollars twenty five hundred and they would need developers to step
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behind it to actually make stuff for this to work so that's a really
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ugly combination with people like um
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i can't remember any of it right now but still series thing the eye tracker toby toby yeah
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well no it's different when it's sold by steel
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series yeah whatever but it's the tobii eye tracker yeah but
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yeah um anyways whatever that thing
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has some amounts of trouble with adoption i think the main game that's
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they're really standing behind it is an indie game that they're probably paying
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to stand behind it um or maybe not or or maybe not but like
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there's there's one of the problems with all these different things coming out oculus gear
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vr every other vr solution ever this
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thing eye tracking hand tracking stuff
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is even something we're going to talk about later later hololens is you need
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developers to develop things for these things and when it's 2 500
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and you need a pc to be set up in your living room
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not just a console and you need a living room where you can
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have a projector behind the couch
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like there's a lot of variables here and i don't see the install base being huge
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and i think that being it's probably going to be a problem for developers um
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you are like nostradamus like
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this thing's expensive for a functionality that no one really asked
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for like it's probably adoption won't be
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great yeah i don't know it's a cool idea it's
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there's really no more it's a luma room like it's you can watch the video so you
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can see that it can fold and go into a box and you can carry it around hooray
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but it's it's room which is which is cool
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but yeah i wouldn't spend 25 speaking of things that are cool with no application
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as far as i can tell um artificial intelligence helps mario play his own
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game i'm gonna go ahead and post this in the twitch chat here so he has learned
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certain things like jumping on a goomba will definitely kill it um
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and stuff like that he's made decisions based on his learning he's decided how
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to get through different levels and stuff yeah he's able to figure out very
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efficient ways to do things yeah he can calculate you know how many moves
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something will require he apparently has moods which
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from looking from reading a little bit further into the article seems to be
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mostly just pre-programmed
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logic trees as opposed to a true a true ai like everything
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hooray it's cool but like that's yeah i don't
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know it's also it's been done before um it's it's pre-programmed logic arrays
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which it is able to kind of add to a little bit but like it it knows the past
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that it should go down and then it's just filling a database of information of results of actions
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essentially which yes of course that's how things learn
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but it's just it's it's not crazy advanced we not only have more advanced
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ai projects out there but this has also been done before i think it's just the
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most advanced ai mario because why
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um so i don't know it's kind of cool it's a fun project
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um speaking of uh speaking of mario we're
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gonna we're gonna try and move pretty quick here guys because we do want to
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spend a fair bit of time on the Windows oh yeah you know
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not as much time as they spent mind you but um not not two hours and 20 minutes
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or whatever it was so let's go ahead so um nintendo club nintendo to be
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discontinued world wide wow them ads
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what is going on here look at this the ad is it's like half of it's here
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half of it's oh
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nintendo insider.com if your site admin is watching uh we have a sponsor uh
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squarespace they have like
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they have like stuff that will make it so this won't happen
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so anyway okay fine whatever frameworks and whatnot anyways so club nintendo is
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shutting down uh they'll be discontinuing the service on the 30th of
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september or end of june in north america and 30 september in the eu
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they've been running it for about six years it is going to be replaced by a
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new program a new loyalty program yes um
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the current one honestly is super badass um club nintendo is great like
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you get coins from buying games which like okay whatever um but then
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those coins kind of last for a really long time then you can spend them on
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real world physical items or digital games and if you buy a real world
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physical item the shipping is totally free it's actually pretty cool um maybe
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it's too expensive it might be too expensive it might be
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just like some of the problems that they've been having is uh the
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merchandise for it coming up with new things right a lot of times there isn't
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really a new thing in the previous thing sold out so it's just like what do i use
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these coins for i kind of want to save for a physical item that is exclusive
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instead of just buying this thing that i could get off the
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wii u store for not much money anyways right so a lot of people just sit there
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hoarding their coins forever waiting for something new to come out then it sells
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out too quickly anyways so they don't get it um so it can be frustrating it's
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a cool program but it can be a frustrating program so i think they're gonna try hopefully replace it with
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something a little bit more elegant and i guess this gives them an opportunity
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to um eliminate the coin hoarding by getting people reset unless they offer
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people like i think they've done resets in the past but then that's always ugly
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as well yeah i mean the optics of that are just kind of terrible yes like so
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you're resetting because you planned it poorly yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah so i don't know not the end of the world uh there if you are
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a club nintendo guy and you have a bunch of coins read up more on it they have
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tons of information on like when the last date to
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uh get coins from games is when the last date to redeem things are when the last
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date to buy things is if or not they're going to be adding
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more things to it because i think i think they're adding more physical items like rapid fire just before the end so
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you can dump all your coins um so but i'm not entirely sure about that go read
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up on it if you care essentially dang it you went for so long that my segway's
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not gonna necessarily work that well but you said it wasn't the end of the world
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and i was going to say speaking of things that could be the end of the world uh this service this is this is
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absolutely fantastic and uh oh
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whoever did our notes on this one didn't actually manage to put the name of the
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service and the notes and i've forgotten what it is second time uh invisible
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girlfriend create your own girlfriend or boyfriend there's also invisible
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boyfriend equal opportunity sort of
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service here um so so
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all right so this isn't the first app that promises to be your virtual partner
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but these apps take a bit of a unique approach to it in that they actually
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pair you with someone with with a with a paid virtual girlfriend or boyfriend
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that will send you messages and selfies and voicemails and even
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handwritten notes so um
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apparently the selfies are are going to be stock photos but that doesn't
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actually sound right from what i was reading them you know what the best
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thing is though have you read the text message conversation yeah here
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so good oh man it was lovely it's the text
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message covers oh you're looking for something else i'm looking for the text
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message it's in the Linus tech tips oh it's in the thread yeah oh okay awesome
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this is post oh crap we haven't said who's posted things okay so good bites
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for the illumi room thing sadisma for mario ai ah ming for this thing tanks
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lair x for nintendo virtual whatever club thing
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nintendo virtual whatever club sorry i was thinking of
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a virtual boy both things that are gone yes yes yes
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all right so here we go here we go so the the thread online is tech tips
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actually has a little bit more information so the app is only available
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in private beta and using canada but the creators are hoping to raise funds so
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they expand can expand to other parts of the world like countries where it is a
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crime to be gay and people might have a need for a fake heterosexual
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relationship that is actually a very compelling use for an application like
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this so these guys messages were better maybe clark kent
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uh so so here's an example of some text uh some text messages
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hey carissa this is clark how are you omg why didn't you text me last night
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where were you sorry i left my phone at work
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let me make it up to you i don't believe you
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i was in such a rush when i left yesterday i was charging it and forgot
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all about it i'm sorry really the the stupidest thing about this is as like
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not sort of great as those messages are they're
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kind of convincing yes i could imagine having that conversation what i kind of
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love about it too though is that in their example he goes i miss you i've
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been working so much lately i need a vacation want to come with me so in that
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use case we're like you need to try to have a heterosexual relationship because
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of laws and blah blah blah blah it should be like yeah definitely let's go
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instead it's like what have you been working on
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what this is your example give a better example than that
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god wow so like yes it it's very bad at
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responding so anyway the personalized
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texts maybe they're going to work on making them better but basically they
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they they have paid people who are sending texts
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and voicemails and handwritten notes and i it's 25 a month and i think that
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includes what was it two handwritten notes
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uh 25 texts or some something along those
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lines i can't remember what exactly the model is um
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i i i i
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i don't know what to say like i feel like for someone somewhere this is
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something that they would really like to have but i've gotta wonder like
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would they not be better off just kind of making a friend online that shares a
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common interest on like steam versus trying to use a service like this
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to have them be a girlfriend or a boyfriend i have to imagine that
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considering how fake it feels
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that you'd have to kind of know so it i feel like it would be more of an
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external thing like i don't know how many of course there's going to be
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some of course there's probably going to be a lot but i don't know how many
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use cases of that i understand i guess as much where someone would do it as
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like a partnership thing but i know a lot of use cases that i understand a lot
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more where someone might want to do it as an external thing look this is my
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person uh like the thing we were talking about
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i see okay i'm gonna try and explain what you're saying in a way that might
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actually be clear um so what he means is like a lot of sense if you're showing
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off [ __ ] versus external relationship yeah like like if the if the idea is not
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that you're doing it for your own satisfaction but you're doing it to like
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prove to grandma that you you know are not ashamed or whatever if
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if you're a girl and your family's like oh my goodness why haven't you started a
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relationship we want babies yeah you'd be like well i did here i'm you know
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there's this working on luke lefraniere guy that i'm texting a lot and he sends
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me selfies of himself in the shower wait sorry i'm looking at my phone whoa yeah
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we weren't supposed to talk about that um snapchat's a hell of a thing anyway
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speaking of things we shouldn't talk about or should talk about
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you're right prweb.com has an article posted by clock lock or
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a203 whatever i tried um do you want to post this one
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in the chat yes got it but these are the most used passwords of 2014. if your
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password is on this list change it now
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and actually the password that you thought was my password is not my
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password no i didn't do that oh okay i know i saw that written there somewhere
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but that wasn't from me all right so there's a couple other tips um don't use
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your favorite sport don't use your favorite team
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don't use your birthday or especially just your birth year information that is
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really not that hard to find these days in fact you know i i really feel like
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all this digital security stuff gets a lot of attention whereas it's really the
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more traditional security systems that that are bothering me lately like i had
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um i had my bank call about something and
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yes they called my phone number which is a form of authentication authentication
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authentication authentication but the only security question they asked me was
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my birth date that's not even close to enough which is not good enough and you
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know what the funny thing about it too though is and this is one that really
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makes me mad is when the security questions on a website um
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okay i'm going back to digital now yeah but when they're fixed yeah yeah it's
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like i don't know any of these things i think and like so i've gotten um riled
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for a few things on like the Linus tech tips forum but i'm not super worried
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about like a forum like a bank is more if i'm
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ever talking about like login form security and all this kind of stuff i'm talking more about like a bank or your
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email not your forum login um but yeah
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if you guys are storing like sensitive personal information in your minus text
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please don't like it's not like it's not like it's not encrypted it's not like we
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don't have security but like and we do that's just idiotic
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yeah why are you doing that anyways um
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we're not talking like having your birthday in your profile we're talking like if you have like images in your
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image upload account or something like that that are like of your passport like
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just be smart online that's all i'm asking um
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but yeah when like a bank has fixed security questions yeah or when like
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like i've seen banks start implementing a like a three-stage thing
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you put in your login name it loads another page you identify an image it
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loads another page you put in a password it loads you into the bank
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which is interesting except that the amount of times that they challenge you
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with the image is near zero like why did you even implement that security step it
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does nothing right i think oh i think um it's more
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likely to challenge you if you're on an ip that's not your usual ip it is so but
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it's still extremely low right um like my bank does it and i checked while i
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was in vegas which is scary but i did it in a fairly safe way um
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and it didn't challenge me with a picture change well people people are
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the biggest obstacle because mine used to do it every time i was on an
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unfamiliar connection and then probably people complained
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because it doesn't do it anymore so okay anyway let's get let's get back
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to let's get back to this topic so here we go one two three four five six
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unchanged from 2013. rock on one two three four five six you
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glorious bastard uh number two password
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same position as last year one two three four five has really climbed the range
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17 positions one two three four five six seven eight has fallen from third to
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fourth so if you thought you were being more secure by going from five digits to
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eight digits you were but not by much
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because when we're talking brute force attacks and the millions of attempts
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they can do per second the difference between two and three when it goes
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through this list not gonna be a whole lot yeah i was gonna say because most
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brute forces will start with a pre-dictionary first anyways yeah um so
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qwerty one two three four five six seven eight nine zero does provide
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an almost immaterial extra level of security
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one two three four is apparently more secure than one two three four five six
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seven eight nine zero if it's using a dictionary based attack as opposed to
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just a uh a sequential attack so there's that
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usually it's it's stacked though it'll do a series of common passwords and then
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it'll do addiction anyway dragon dragon is number nine why was it because
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how did you get MSI is like super popular right now
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let nine is up one i actually don't even know what that means
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that mine looks not english monkey is up five to
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number 12. good job monkey master is 19
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is bader on here batman is master batman
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i love i love new six nine six nine six nine how is that new i would have
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expected that to be fairly cool yeah i know trust no one
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is 25th that is one that i would not
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have imagined would be nearly as popular as batman oh it's let me in oh let me
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end the twitch chat is like wow dude you guys are dumb you know what got it maybe
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if whoever came up with that capitalized the first letter of every word or
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something which would actually have made it more secure as well
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let's not blame me for the stupidity of this list
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any of it my one of my favorite things is bringing up the social engineering
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aspect of hacking to people talking about how like leaving flash drives
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around and having people plug them into their computers and compromising their security that way or just
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talking to people right being like
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what was your mom's maiden name and be like oh well funny story it's blah blah
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blah it's like okay well now i can get into like every account ever um
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and mine's a trick good yeah no that's actually not a bad
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idea at all actually sorry can i can i sorry i'll let you
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finish i can get no i can get back to this okay you'll remember yeah okay cause because this is this is kind of a
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funny story there is my my mother's maiden name question is a trick um but
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there's one account that i have to use i
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think once every six years you know what i'll just i'll just say what account it
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is because it's not going to matter i'm not going to say what the trick is so it's my icbc account my my uh like my
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insurance account i used a different
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trick answer than on any of the other ones
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so every six years when i have to renew my licensed license they'll ask me and
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i'll be like this and they'll be like no
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they'll be like right that one
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okay sorry guys that's awkward um right so yeah i think it was jimmy
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fallon or some some nighttime tv guy thing did like uh
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checking people's passwords in i think new york or wherever he's from so they'd
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go on the street and be like oh what's your password
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and people would be like oh i don't want to tell you and they're like they'd be
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like oh okay well like what's it made up of they'd be like okay well it's like my
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mother's maiden name and then my birthday they'd go like oh that's cool
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are you close to your mom then blah blah blah okay what's your mother's maiden
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name then they'll tell them then oh yeah and when were you born then they'll tell
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them it's like oh my god
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it was fantastic i don't remember who it was but just like these are the problems
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with those types of securities it's so easy to just talk to people okay this
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information smeg czar here brings up a really good point why the hell are you wearing a hat
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i semi forgot about it it's cause i'm sick and i had a
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shower but really needed to work on things so came out and didn't fully
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towel off and put on this so it's a towel hat it's a towel hat hey
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my hair actually kind of like worked out under that sort of
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except in this bit back here we'll fix it i'll just we have the oh geez it's
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already like we have the technology all right let's
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um let's move on to our next topic this is one that i i have to talk about for a
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little bit um oh yeah because uh
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okay i can't really say anything oh go for it keep going no no i can't i can't
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say certain things about this but uh this was posted by cast death 97
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on the forum uh original article article here is from nine to five mac you want
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it i thought we were doing this one oh no
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one up but we're okay whoa that that that one okay
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all right here we go much less confused no this is this is something that i'm uh
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that i'm sort of sort of stoked to talk about so i'm gonna go ahead and screenshot your hair okay so the rumor
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is apple apple targets for the apple
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watch battery life have been revealed there is apparently an a5 caliber CPU
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inside something that is both impressive and completely unnecessary um depending
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on what kind of experience apple expects you to have with the watch which of
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course does seem to be pretty different from what everyone else is targeting
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with their smart watches so unlike other smart watch makers apple is including i
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believe it includes wi-fi although i feel like i'm
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i feel like i'm saying something stupid here i'm pretty so aside from bluetooth
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my understanding is the apple watch will also include wi-fi connectivity um so
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that is already very different because it's no longer reliant on being tethered
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to another device in order for it to
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tell you anything useful um and then the other the other big difference is that
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based on that it's going to be running kind of a stripped down iOS and going to
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have the super powerful processor i'm guessing you'll be able to run some
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seriously much more powerful apps on the
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apple watch compared to what we can currently do on Android wear devices
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which are basically i mean yeah you can think around with some apps i found a
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spin the bottle app no when i was doing my moto 360 review it's like let's play
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spin the bottle just like shove my arms awkwardly in the middle of the group
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it's like this this result is not looking favorable hold on i'm just going
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to turn my wrist um so okay so so this this this
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the the the specifications themselves tell us that apple is expecting it to be used a
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little bit differently but these battery targets look
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bad like super super bad
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so they're expecting you to get one day
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but we're not talking always on one day
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like the g watch are where i actually forgot to charge it last night and i'm
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sitting at 17 i get almost two days
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out of this thing i even got a full two days once um so we're talking screen off
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one day of battery life so they're figuring two and a half hours under
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heavy use things like games but if you're playing games on your watch you
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are really doing it wrong especially because the assumption uh which is a safe one in
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this case is that you already have an iphone
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which is a much better gaming plot anyway um okay
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so four and a half hours sorry two and a half hours in games where did that go
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okay four hours of exercise tracking
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are you for real so if i go up and i go skiing
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i'm done yeah and like the big problem with this too is i didn't even think
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about the skiing thing honestly i was just thinking about a normal workout session so a lot of people will do half
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an hour to an hour but that means that you just took out
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um a quarter of your entire phone's battery life i
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watch but oh about yeah
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watch three hours of continuously looking at the watch face
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three hours that is brutal that's super not good and
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so they figure 19 hours of combined active and passive usage with about two
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to three days in standby now the scariest thing about all of this is that
27:18
the the rumor mill is swirling with um
27:22
they may not even hit these targets
27:25
so i think it is fairly safe to say um oh here's a here's a cool image of the
27:30
um the maglock wireless charging connector
27:33
so that's that's kind of cool um so the the
27:37
whatever okay the point is do not buy the apple watch we got there yeah um
27:41
i've actually the reason i wanted to talk about this was not just to highlight how abysmal
27:47
those results are for the apple watch and i see what apple's trying to do here
27:50
they're trying to deliver a very different experience one that's more
27:53
like a phone on your wrist that's extremely small and less like a wearable
27:58
accessory that is tethered to a computer in your pocket i get it
28:03
but the technology is just straight up not there yet the battery i mean apple
28:08
has been an innovator when it comes to battery life and when it comes to
28:11
processor efficiency but that doesn't change that it simply doesn't exist yet
28:17
to do that and like i complain about what people are doing with uh phone
28:21
batteries but i just don't think they can with watch batteries right now and
28:25
the thing about the thing about the thing about that makes me say that don't
28:29
buy it is that i i have experience with the difference
28:34
between those two use case scenarios so the moto 360 i ended up giving a pretty
28:40
negative review of that device and some of the problems were just the general
28:44
glitchiness of Android wear which has been addressed somewhat with the
28:47
lollipop update so i'm running that on the g watch r the review which will be
28:51
coming fairly soon um but
28:54
a lot of it was just i just didn't like
28:58
it and i couldn't put my hand on quite
29:01
why i just didn't like it and it turns out the answer now that i'm running the
29:06
g watch r is that always off bothers me in a way that are
29:11
not always on because it's not always off yeah but off unless you gesture or
29:15
touch it bothers me in a way that i even i didn't quite understand and i've
29:19
talked about it on the show before i hate that i think it's stupid but it
29:23
just made using the device not pleasant
29:26
and not natural and not enjoyable and so
29:30
the apple watch i'm going to say it right now it's going to be unnatural and
29:34
unenjoyable and you're going to be spending way too much for that
29:38
experience because apple's trying to put too much hardware into something that
29:42
just isn't ready for it yet
29:45
um speaking of of battery life though actually i want to jump to uh to a topic
29:51
so do you want to do one do one in the meantime maybe do the uh the next one
29:54
here okay um i'll i'll screen share that
29:58
while i go fetch something because i for sure so this was posted by rohith kumar
30:02
underscore jsp just reminding i think a lot of people want to hear about the
30:06
Windows 10 thing so yeah you should oh yeah that's cool
30:09
and get to that um so the next thing we're doing is that moot is
30:15
quitting 4chan i mean yeah i i put up i did yeah like
30:20
he still owns it as far as i can yeah yeah um so he's quitting the
30:25
controversial website after 12 years uh
30:29
so yeah well 11.5 i guess i should
30:32
clarify he he said that the website's gone through a number of challenges
30:36
throughout the years and kind of made it through a lot of them but
30:40
the biggest point of failure that they have right now is that there's one large
30:45
uncomfortable point of fail one uncomfortably large point of failure
30:50
which is him moot so he's kind of stepping down or
30:53
quitting however much that is true so that a few
30:58
senior volunteers can kind of take the place leading the website he says that
31:02
they'll be financially secure for the foreseeable future and there will be no
31:05
problems i seriously doubt this is a full quit
31:09
um but not like anything really changes
31:13
over there anyways so no one will probably notice anyways so
31:19
yeah so there's that he quit and i don't think it matters
31:24
all right so i just wanted to uh i wanted on this on the subject of devices
31:29
with better battery and just kind of deprioritizing
31:33
um you know power where it's not really necessary these guys reached out about
31:38
oh sorry these guys reached out asking us to do a
31:41
review they're an incredibly small company their website is spectrum hq.net
31:46
i guess i should just screen share that instead of just getting rid of my screen
31:49
share and uh what i thought was interesting about this phone was not
31:55
necessarily that it has the most groundbreaking specs in the world it
31:58
actually uses like it's a 1.3 gigahertz quad-core mediatek chipset it's got one
32:02
gig of the base model has one gig of RAM eight gigs of storage uh 720p display
32:09
um but what i thought was interesting about it is that it's 150 and i know that
32:14
inexpensive mediatek based phones are not uh necessarily revolutionary but
32:20
what i thought was interesting about it is that it has a 4 000 milliamp hour
32:24
battery in a reasonable form factor and
32:28
with an ips display so i just thought i
32:31
mean basically i think it's still pre-order but i have i have a working
32:35
one here unfortunately it has pretty narrow uh pretty narrow band support so
32:41
you're gonna have to make sure that your carrier will actually work with it but with the power sipping
32:45
components in here and a four thousand milliamp hour battery for 150 bucks it's
32:50
got dual sim uh it's also got microsd expansion i think up to 32 gig support
32:55
um i just i thought it looked interesting i told them look i can't
32:59
review a phone that doesn't work on my carrier um because that's just my policy
33:04
now because i just i wanted you won't
33:08
necessarily inherently use it enough that way yes
33:11
um but what i told them is just because i thought what they were doing was
33:14
interesting and i agree with things like
33:18
not necessarily going you know 2560 by 1440 on the display settling for 720p
33:24
but making sure it's an ips panel instead of a tn panel like you might
33:27
find on a lot of inexpensive phones and so i just wanted to mention it just
33:31
because actually here i think this this cap from your site 4 000 milliamp hour
33:36
glory something that may actually get you through a couple of days because
33:41
while i kind of railed on um on motorola about the droid turbo
33:47
having claiming to offer two-day battery life and actually it has a similar
33:51
capacity battery in it um the issue is that it runs extremely powerful hardware
33:57
and so that's where you're going to to lose a lot of the battery life that you might get from a device like this so
34:02
there you go it's uh oh yeah oh yeah the 4000 milliamp power battery is actually
34:06
user removable as well so you can you can swap them too which
34:10
is pretty uh pretty unusual so yeah
34:14
13 megapixel camera um not not earth
34:17
shattering image quality or anything like that but i wanted to highlight these guys because i think what they're
34:21
doing is is interesting especially compared to other low-cost phones where
34:25
they're just low costed across the board seeing an ips panel and seeing a nice
34:30
high-capacity battery is refreshing yep i feel like if they had a good camera in
34:35
there as well that's all i'd really want
34:39
all right you should see oh man i don't have my phone on me right now but i took
34:42
a picture today with my moto x and i was like all right i should probably get a
34:46
new phone if for no other reason just the camera
34:51
yeah no garbage
34:56
um okay should we do a couple rapid fire topics before we get into Windows 10
35:00
does it matter i don't know there's some interesting stuff in here gta 5 inside gta 4. inside
35:07
of taco inside a taco bell inside a burger king inside them all inside your
35:11
brain this one has done very well but it's
35:14
already been done and it's not like it's not coming out until like pretty soon
35:18
op is uh tara oh whoops no wrong one oh shujin and this is from
35:23
pcpcgamer.com obviously it's not
35:28
know for crying out loud i don't care about guild wars
35:34
correct all right so obviously it's not the entire game
35:40
but it's just one of those things that grabs headlines and is therefore
35:44
interesting to people to post on their news sites um
35:48
AMD's ceo lisa sue has confirmed this was posted by teraflop that their new
35:53
graphics cards will launch in the second quarter of 2015.
35:57
uh very good products coming in q2 2015.
36:01
rumors include fiji xt with 4096 gcn
36:05
cores and you gotta kind of feel like NVIDIA is just sitting on their butts
36:11
waiting for AMD to make a move you know
36:14
i i love the guys at NVIDIA they're my bros they're they're good people um but
36:19
this was posted by opcode on the forum and the original source here is from
36:24
GeForce.com the really what are these sources why are there sources for like
36:29
vxgi in here all right let's go ahead so the gtx 960 officially launched and
36:35
feels like a holding pattern boy does it ever feel like a holding
36:39
pattern i mean we were getting used to for a while new graphics cards launching
36:44
and basically if the only piece of information that we gave luke was the
36:49
price he would pretty much be able to create a performance graph of how it's
36:54
taxed up against all of its competitors because that was apparently what AMD and
36:59
NVIDIA were doing they were just figuring out how it
37:02
performed and going okay let's price it this much yeah yeah yeah
37:08
whereas the way that it used to work was that when there was a cost advantage for
37:13
a new GPU or just a new design in
37:16
general we would get better performance for the price or we would get um
37:22
better performance with a greater price or or or or like much better performance
37:27
for the same price or something anyway the point is that it would try to
37:32
push things from the envelope forward whereas the gtx 960 pushes nothing
37:37
forward and you can make the car consumption
37:40
power okay yes yeah yes and that is important for certain
37:44
things this will make the mobile gaming experience
37:48
better really it should be it should be less expensive
37:53
though and we've seen NVIDIA do this whole
37:56
GPU creep thing over the last couple of generations where it's like it used to
38:00
be that this class of of chip went in
38:03
these classes of products so now all of a sudden this class of chip will hold on
38:07
there's like a titan something
38:10
put that one there and then actually this one which used to be like a a x 60
38:15
class product is now a 7080 class product this one that used to be like uh
38:20
x 50 class product is now this um so so
38:23
this the gtx 960 launch was a little bit disappointing to me yes
38:27
it compares well against its competition um but the problem is that AMD's
38:32
competitors for it are these much much
38:35
larger and older gpus that are based on
38:39
in some cases significantly older architectures like the uh the r9 280x
38:43
which is like how old is that card now
38:47
because it's three years it's not yeah because it's not really a 280x yeah the
38:52
7970 yeah um
38:55
seventy like here i'll i'll search for like the launch 7970 yeah december 22nd
39:00
2011.
39:03
so yeah yeah it's three years old so AMD's
39:08
sort of not really on a level playing field because they can't lower prices
39:11
enough to compete with this card and if they did if AMD made a move in terms of
39:14
pricing went yeah we're just gonna charge 150 for you know r9 285s NVIDIA
39:21
can match that like that
39:24
um so what's my point here the 960 came out
39:28
it's frustrating to me that uh yawned really loudly yeah it's also kind of
39:32
annoying that it came up right after christmas because this is a much better christmas priced card than basically
39:38
anything else they had that's a good point i didn't even pay a little bit
39:41
more for our cards oh christmas is over okay here we go yeah if they released it
39:45
at christmas time i think they probably would have sold a lot more of these instead of 970 because 960 was rumored
39:49
to be coming a lot sooner than it ended up coming up well the one that i'll be
39:53
interested in is if we get a 960 ti at 249
39:57
if it's actually based on gm 204 as
40:00
opposed to gm 206 um so so right now we've actually it's
40:05
funny we've only got four maxwell desktop products and they're running
40:10
three different versions of the chip because 750 ti is gm gm-207 so it's
40:16
gm-207 gm-206 and gm-204 and then we haven't seen uh you know a titan class
40:21
product which would be running a gm2 there's rumors going on 200 yeah there's
40:25
lots lots of rumors about that um
40:29
i guess i guess that's all there is to really say about that i mean
40:33
uh we're we're kind of curious what you guys thought of our coverage of the of
40:36
the 960 where we kind of did a single card and then we did sli coverage as a
40:41
separate video um you know what you guys thought of that feel free to sort of
40:45
post in the twitch chat but i'll be completely upfront with you guys the
40:49
only reason we did that is because we ended up with too many 960s by accident
40:54
so nine nine seventy nine eighty launch uh we had we had nine eighties no
40:58
problem uh NVIDIA provided those but 970s were actually provided by the
41:02
add-in board partners and NVIDIA um
41:06
apparently somehow or another
41:10
we we got allocated lots of 980s because
41:13
of people like prioritizing us and wanting us to send us their best product
41:17
we didn't get a single gtx 970 on launch because everyone kind of assumed well
41:21
someone else will send them a 970. we're going to go ahead and send them 980 and
41:25
i didn't i didn't ask about it because i
41:28
just kind of assumed that i was going to be getting seated one and i didn't
41:32
really think of it 960 i went i was like okay we're not gonna let that happen
41:36
again so i proactively was arranging samples and then it turned out that they
41:41
were gonna be seated automatically and they were in the mail before i even
41:44
found out you know when the launch was so we ended
41:48
up with uh three 960s instead of one
41:52
which is what i wanted yeah um so so so
41:55
we were like okay well i don't just want to do three of the same review because
41:58
that's super boring so let's do sli as a separate one so we'd love to know what
42:02
you guys uh what you guys think of that yeah do we want to move into Windows 10
42:07
uh or should we do sponsors first three to get it out of the way about 970.
42:11
what's about 970 uh the video everyone wants us to talk we should talk
42:16
about 970 so people can stop screaming then do sponsors and then just Windows
42:21
10 it for basically the rest of the show sure well no not the rest of the show we
42:24
do have basically it is a well i don't want people to tune out because they don't
42:28
care about Windows 10. i do it'll basically be the rest of the show but i
42:31
was trying to lie way to ruin it someone screwed up the there is other stuff
42:36
brighter
42:39
dimmer oh the power profiles are it's brightening right now it was it
42:44
stopped okay um all right
42:48
where is this nine 970. apparently the
42:53
gtx 970 cannot utilize
42:56
all four gigs of its memory and i think that headline is a little bit misleading
43:01
although i don't necessarily disagree with the overall sentiment um this
43:07
headline is better NVIDIA's gtx 970 has a rather appears to have a rather
43:11
serious memory allocation bug because it's not that you can't
43:16
access all four gigs it's that once you
43:19
start filling it up these performance
43:23
of the vram 125th of the speed or something like that tanks significantly
43:28
so it seems like when the last 500 to
43:32
700 megabytes of vram gets accessed
43:35
memory performance drops significantly so this is something that is currently
43:39
and a developing story on reddit overclock.net and guru 3d
43:44
some users have even found their card and NVIDIA's own websites which is all
43:48
over the place it goes belly up when hitting three gigs
43:51
so it looks like it varies from card to card the gtx 980 is fortunately not
43:57
affected okay so it's not a maxwell issue but
44:01
seems to be one specific to the 970 um going beyond
44:06
uh so so basically the problem will manifest as stuttering or dramatically
44:11
increased frame times so basically just
44:14
a degraded gaming experience even though FPS reporting might still seem like it's
44:20
okay so here were the here were the results
44:26
yup so a fraction of the performance once it reaches the
44:31
uh once it reaches the end here so we're seeing 150 gigabytes per second from
44:35
this benchmark here fall to 22 or even
44:38
as low as six gigabytes per second once
44:42
the card is full so
44:45
this writer says you know well the card still performs like a champ
44:51
which is good this makes it extremely
44:55
hard to recommend this card right now especially in light of the fact that one
45:00
of the big arguments for the gtx 970 is
45:03
how it not only has the the horsepower to gain at 4k it has the vram that
45:08
you're gonna need to run high resolution textures at high resolutions
45:13
um which which i mean and ah man this
45:17
just just does fail written all over it doesn't it we don't yeah we're still
45:21
waiting to hear back from a video though yeah everyone's waiting for back from
45:24
NVIDIA yeah video is investigating they are investigating they have officially
45:28
responded and they are investigating so i think we need to kind of hold tight
45:32
and wait till we hear back from them um some people are speculating recall
45:36
already and we we don't know that that will be the case although wild
45:40
accusations the thing is is that
45:45
i this looks pretty low level this isn't something that's showing up just in
45:49
games this is something where people can okay so if they can fix it in drivers
45:53
great uh yeah if it requires a firmware fix
45:58
i they might recall gross yeah yeah because you can't expect well okay it's
46:03
easier than it used to be like we had to update the firmware on our on our 970
46:08
Windows still can't really expect people to do that on
46:11
their own because there's possibilities of bricking and whatnot but the problem
46:14
is like and then whose problem is it is it the board partners is it the retailers i
46:20
remember the last time we had uh we had a recall it was the um the
46:26
rev one of the p67 chipset
46:30
uh back at ncix uh remember oh
46:34
no that was horrible yeah it was a dessert that took me a second to kind of
46:39
oh that was cool and so the way that that one worked that
46:43
one even more unfortunately was um was a
46:47
hardware re-spin yeah as opposed to just
46:50
a firmware update so and i'm not i don't even know i mean NVIDIA might not be
46:54
able to fix this with a firmware update or they might um but that one was just a disaster
47:00
there's some pretty there's some people getting pretty low level in terms of
47:03
like what could be causing the issue and there's there's some speculation on each
47:07
side where well if these things are what's actually happening then it could
47:11
maybe be firmware fixed or if these things are what's actually happening it
47:14
might have to be a hardware replacement of some sort et cetera et cetera it's
47:18
pretty interesting um so basically in development we don't know no one knows
47:23
right now no NVIDIA's investigating i can't believe they didn't notice this
47:28
yes um and like even if you did i can't believe
47:32
you would possibly think that no one would notice it so i'm pretty sure they didn't notice it um NVIDIA
47:38
they they tend to
47:41
they tend to take the approach where
47:44
they they want to make sure their technology is legitimately better so
47:49
they can maintain their kind of smarmy attitude about how great their
47:53
tech is they don't seem to be in the business of trying to
47:58
say that it has something that it doesn't yes um so i i don't think they
48:03
knew yeah like the the last you can take the good and the bad from that the last
48:07
thing NVIDIA wants is to have this mug smile wiped off their face by something
48:11
embarrassing like this so i i cannot imagine for a second that anyone at
48:16
NVIDIA knew about this i'm
48:19
wasn't surprised least a little bit more than one extremely short forum post
48:24
i understand that though like i get it yeah the response almost has to be that
48:28
because you you can't say more until you know more i mean
48:32
but you could make a more official statement saying you're looking into it
48:38
do you though i mean okay let's let's let's be
48:42
realistic oh wait was okay was that their forums i don't remember which form
48:45
it was that was their own forums then that's probably fine can't can't
48:49
remember i can't remember anyway the point the point is like the only people
48:53
who know about this right now are going to be hardcore enthusiasts who are on
48:57
sites like ocn okay is NVIDIA gonna go and send an e-blast to everyone in their
49:03
GeForce.com mailing list about something like this
49:08
my problem was more the fact that it's extremely short i think it's like one
49:12
line responding to one person's quote
49:15
and they're like by the way looking into it
49:18
yeah but you can't say more because as soon as you say more then
49:23
you're you're like bound to that and when you don't know what's going on you
49:27
have to investigate first like i i don't i don't disagree with you
49:31
i'm playing a little bit of devil's advocate here yeah because yeah
49:34
for the consumer who spent their money and bought that graphics card they they
49:39
deserve more so that's actually a better line than i thought it was
49:43
we are still looking into this and we'll have an update as soon as possible i
49:46
thought it was shorter than that to be completely honest so
49:50
but from a corporate standpoint from a legal because if you yeah if you admit
49:54
blame on a legal standpoint then even if you rectify yourself later you're still
49:59
in the wrong so there's there's a ton of reasons why they just shouldn't say more
50:03
and they should say nothing until they know what their action plan is because
50:07
legal standpoint and that kind of stuff is is really weird because apologizing
50:11
is always a negative thing no matter what in a legal standpoint and aside
50:15
from from all of that like they're remembering videos not just dealing with
50:19
the end user customers they're dealing with like their ad and board partner
50:23
customers on this yeah who are going yo dawg
50:26
what's going on who's footing the bill if these cards are coming back like i
50:30
can assure you those questions are already happening right now yeah
50:37
definitely you know what that actually leads really well into um
50:41
puget's thing we have like 35 minutes right now that's
50:45
it to do Windows okay well i still want to do the
50:49
puget thing okay um so this is uh oh and i guess we should talk about the
50:53
backblaze thing while we're at it so puget so these are more like uh can
50:58
you put these in the chat these are more like if you feel like checking them out go ahead and check them out um they're
51:02
not as scientific as as you know i think
51:06
the graphs would indicate that they appear to be for example puget's puget's
51:11
uh thing here is strictly based on i
51:14
think it's ASUS graphics cards so
51:18
on both the NVIDIA and the AMD side but they show desktop GPU failure rate by
51:23
doa or failure during their testing and then failure out in the field so they
51:27
show that NVIDIA has actually improved quite a bit since the gtx 200 series
51:32
with the 700 series being the best so far and no data for 900 series and then
51:36
AMD being kind of a little bit all over the map here and then their hypothesis
51:41
was or their theory or whatever was uh
51:44
that it seems to be something about AMD because all the cards are from ASUS but
51:49
that may not necessarily be the case because there's a lot of different reasons a card might fail earlier for
51:54
example if AMD's pricing was lower
51:57
it's a lot harder for someone like an add-in board partner to bake in the
52:02
margin that they need and the build quality that they want to put into it so
52:06
they might cut corners on something even if it's the exact same manufacturer
52:09
that's why you don't see a 200 graphics card built on exactly the same car like
52:14
pcb design and power delivery design as a 500 graphics card so if the asp is
52:19
just lower on one side you might get a little bit more cheaping out on things
52:22
um and then uh backblaze published another one i don't even wanna i don't
52:26
even want to link this i did already did you you told me to link them
52:31
uh backblaze releases flawed listings
52:34
hard drive failure rates for 2014. with
52:38
a series of the worst source links on the planet we got to get that under
52:41
control um
52:45
where's the graph like four back blaze links in a little in a row that just say
52:48
backblaze.com like what freaking ones are these where do they go
52:53
completely different websites even one of them is a blog
52:57
god more than one of them is the blog anyways
53:01
uh sorry doctor strange best charger anyway there's a graph it says seagate
53:05
drives are terrible and hitachi ones are good and uh oh here we go yep so there's the
53:11
annual failure rate um take this with an enormous grain of salt because something
53:16
that we pointed out last time they published one of these lists
53:19
every time they published it like three to four is that their methodology is
53:24
terrible it's ridiculous sometimes their sample sizes are just outright way too
53:29
small other times their sample sizes are
53:32
just too small and other times they are
53:36
like there is no controlled environment for the drives they're running at different temperatures with different
53:41
different amounts of drives in the thing more vibration less vibration different
53:44
parts of the rack different uh oh so
53:49
please ignore back blazes hard drive reliability never look at their blog
53:54
ever not because we're like super close friends with seagate and trying to cover
53:58
their butts in fact i'd say we have pretty much equal relationships with c
54:02
games exact same thing if it was switched and we would say exact same
54:05
thing it's just wrong and it's bad and please ignore it speaking of things that
54:09
are wrong and bad and please ignore them
54:12
no everyone but dollar shave club see how
54:17
that makes users that makes razors yeah i mean you can pay attention to things
54:20
other than dollar shave club in life you
54:24
know what probably i'm not the boss of you do whatever you want but the point
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is if you guys are interested in getting shaving supplies for less and more
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oh
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so let's get into uh the microsoft uh
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Windows 10 keynote Windows 10
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is a paradigm shifting all new
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it's Windows as a service although it's not quite Windows as a service the way
59:21
that i was looking yes for it to be yes but it still kind of is the idea is
59:26
having the same experience whether you're on this kind of a device or this
59:30
kind of a device or a much larger pretend this is a monitor this kind of a
59:34
device ah this box under here okay that's not
59:38
gonna work oh i caught it by looking in the camera
59:44
that was awesome that was sweet anyways um so so they're
59:52
there their concept here is called continuum which is very different from continuity
59:57
by the way it actually is pretty different because
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continuum is supposed to be about having the same look and feel across the
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devices whereas continuity is about having access to the same information
60:08
across devices and and being able to use
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the features of one device on another device okay it's a very blurry line but um the
60:16
point is then there were a few cool things that stood out it's about almost
60:20
a two and a half hour keynote that honestly it's pretty good
60:24
oh i was gonna say it was terrible really yeah i thought a lot of their
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presenters um i think probably practiced
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it too many times so that they were like stuttering on
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things that should have just been fluid speech um
60:38
but i didn't mean good okay i didn't mean good as in the presenters were like very
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engaging people i think the content was pretty good i mean you watch apple's
60:47
keynote addresses right no not really no usually because i'm
60:51
usually working while they're going there there was there was like there was
60:54
some there was some also ran sort of presentation skills going on with the
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okay that should have been the presentation skills were not great the
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content i think was good the content was okay but it should have been an hour and
61:07
a half keynote there were ways to condense that there
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there was some really great um when the ceo came up at the end and sort
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of talked about how it all tied together that was great but there was a lot of
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filler that throughout i do also appreciate that they bring people on
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stage that are very in touch with what's going on yeah
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they could have just put hosts up there that's true and would have been terrible
61:30
yeah and like i would rather it be the guy that may not be super amazing at
61:34
presenting but did a lot of this stuff or led the teams that did a lot of this
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stuff and had was deeply integrated with it the entire time like the guy that did
61:42
the um hollow glass which we'll get to that at some point um he's been working
61:47
on that project for like seven years
61:50
like maybe not the best presentation skills but you can tell the whole time
61:54
that he's on stage that he cares to a crazy degree yeah and i liked that very
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passionate so maybe not the presentation school was super high but i knew that he
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cared and that actually made me care more about it and i focused more on the
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device instead of just the presentation anyways all right so let's um let's go
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through and let's do let's do the the highlight reel this was posted by says
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ray on the forum by the way so for me huge highlight was uh that it looks like
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Windows 10 is going to do a much better job with convertible devices oh sorry we
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don't call them convertibles anymore two-in-one devices so things that are
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notebooks and also tablets like this one allowing it the the switch between a
62:30
tablet mode that by default has your applications whether they're win32 or
62:34
modern ui applications by default be full screen with multitasking being
62:39
swiping in from the left to boom your keyboard is connected now you have a
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more traditional window management desktop laptop type experience looked
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really good huge improvement um another so one of the big things aside from
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window sizes is start menu so instead of being stuck with that full screen thing
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there's a new micro modern start menu within a more
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traditional start menu that can have text in it as well looks absolutely
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fantastic add to that you can maximize it yeah there's a max there's like a
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window maximize button where you can make it bigger if you want which i i
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kind of doubt anyone will really use but it's there if you want it another one
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i'm really excited about is it looks like microsoft is stepping up to apple's
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level here with respect to in os
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um integration of things like calendars things like notifications something i
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really have felt like is is missing it's like look i i don't want to use bing and
63:33
i don't want to use your calendar because they suck i use a google
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calendar on on os 10 i can just sync my google
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calendar boom os x calendar application which is great by the way automatically
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has all my crap in it i don't have to think about it um so it looks like we're
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gonna get support for stuff like that on the subject of bing i guess we'll talk a
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little bit more about that but um a lot of the stuff they were showing off
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is very bing and one drive reliant which
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is extremely frustrating to me i don't know anyone who uses onedrive and you
64:04
know what here let's let's go ahead uh before we get into that if we're going
64:08
to finish this container yeah yeah yeah go ahead go ahead
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sure okay so Windows 10 will be free for people that have Windows 7 plus so
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Windows 7 or Windows 8 and it's it's free for a year but
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by that they mean you have to activate within a year um and then it's free forever once
64:25
you've moved to it so it's it's not that you you your license runs out in a year
64:30
it's that you you need to move up within a year essentially which is i think
64:34
understandable personally so upgrade all your stuff then you'll be
64:38
fine also if you are on there i don't remember exactly what it's called but
64:42
their early adopter program um where you're testing out Windows 10 right now
64:47
a lot of the stuff that we're going to be talking about today will be in updates very soon apparently the cortana
64:52
update is going to be fairly quick here which is actually very interesting and
64:56
has me kind of looking for a device to install it on because i want to try that
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out we'll talk about that more later and
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they're going to have the install versions for phone Windows 10 for your
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phone fairly soon for those early adopter guys as well which again i don't
65:11
remember the name of and uh Windows 10 for phones are just i
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don't think this is in our notes but one thing that i really liked there was they
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are they're they're making the like they're making everything look more
65:22
similar but one of the big ones that they fixed this has been a big gripe for me is the settings menu so they are
65:28
making it look similar on phone and on and on desktop and tablet and then
65:32
they're consolidating everything like it was really broken yeah uh with some
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things in modern some things in the classic ui and just extremely
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frustrating so here we go i just posted a straw poll i mean i want to know what cloud
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services you guys are using because a lot of the stuff they demoed was like
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super cool if you happen to have a surface three
65:53
and a Windows phone and you use one drive
65:57
and like one drive so basically if you're a
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microsoft yeah yeah um and i i hope to see better
66:06
integration with some third-party services even though i'm not sure uh i'm
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not sure if that's gonna happen one thing too is microsoft has never really
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been that hardcore about needing to use their stuff
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so i wouldn't be surprised if maybe it launches with these things but yeah but
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they're trying to create that more integrated experience and and quite
66:24
frankly they hopefully you have to do it hopefully they're trying to make the
66:29
availability of more interviews one thing you can tell definitely is that it
66:34
isn't this or at least it doesn't seem to be i guess you can tell definitely
66:37
that it doesn't seem to be um the like split team idea that microsoft used to
66:42
be yep everyone seems to kind of be coming together and working together now
66:45
which is good god that should have happened a long
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time ago maybe more people would be voting for
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one drive right now if that had actually happened what else we got here um the
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new office for mobile which is free on devices under whatever inches i think
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seven or eight something like that um looks fabulous so aside from aside from
67:06
being able to have like a full-fledged microsoft word like they've modified the
67:10
ribbon interface to sit at the bottom of the screen which looks fantastic it
67:15
actually works kind of across the device so if you're writing an email in outlook
67:19
you can have a fully fledged microsoft word engine word processor on your phone
67:25
in order to compose emails which is fantastic to me the new photo
67:29
aggregation and organization application that's included looks really great i
67:33
always liked Windows photo gallery but it lacked the automation that i thought
67:38
it needed so this one does little things like it'll uh it'll retouch your photos
67:41
automatically which i'm personally not a huge fan of but it'll get rid of
67:44
duplicates and it'll sort bursts on its
67:48
own automatically turn off all those things and you can if you don't want
67:51
retouching i'm pretty sure it can turn yes so you can do all that stuff too and
67:54
then one last thing that was just kind of uh this stood out to me about the
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whole presentation and seems to be like a gen that i don't see too many other
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people talking about is one drive music collection and playlist syncing yeah you
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can drag and drop your entire music library into onedrive and boom it's
68:12
everywhere with all your playlists accessible and automatically updated
68:15
that is freaking cool personal cloud
68:19
music service is awesome for folks who have large collections of cds and or
68:25
digital files that they've purchased over the years or just like yeah owning
68:28
your own stuff oh that's cool just just owning your own data is really cool i
68:33
mean it's still on someone else's cloud server and so there's that but you you
68:37
own the songs instead of a service like the google music thing where once you
68:40
don't pay forever they're all gone yeah yeah like if i kind of went okay there's
68:44
probably only 3 000 songs that i'll ever care about in my life and if i subscribe
68:49
to this for eight dollars a month for 30
68:52
years what's actually a better value for me oh okay
68:55
like there's some math to do for which one works best for you but either way i
68:58
think that's that's a really cool feature um so so i'll let you do spartan
69:03
browser because spartan browser looks it looks like microsoft kinda hedging
69:08
their bets a little bit but also moving in the right direction i think they're
69:11
moving in the right direction uh anyways there's a new rendering
69:14
engine that they say is more for today's web wall
69:19
i just your last one apparently one drive is doing better than i thought 16
69:23
it's doing better than i thought two but it's still not 44 yeah with google drive i actually
69:28
thought dropbox would have more yeah i thought google drive would be right
69:31
about there dropbox would have more and onedrive would have less i hate google drive's interface
69:36
okay go ahead i still use it more just because it happens to be there and it's
69:39
free but yeah um anyways the one of the coolest things is
69:44
that you can mark up the web quite easily now i know some people are going
69:48
to be like well you could kind of like snipping tool and then write on it and
69:52
it's fine and there's other kind of stuff for this already but it's very well integrated so
69:57
if you have a pen or a touchscreen device in general so you just want to
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use your finger you can draw all over websites and do whatever uh if you have
70:05
a keyboard you can uh add in a commenting system which looks really
70:09
nice it looks very similar to words commenting system which is actually
70:13
really good we use it a lot in in office
70:16
here i guess in-house actually very specifically works um but
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but like you you can highlight things and comment them like very very good and
70:24
it's collaborative to a certain degree so by snapshotting it you essentially
70:28
take the website offline in the aspect that if there's an update to that
70:32
website your snapshot will not update but all the links and everything that
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are on there will continue to work and all that kind of stuff will still be
70:39
fine and i believe you'd be able to right click on an image and view its
70:43
source information all that kind of stuff like it's just a snapshot of a web
70:46
page and then you can share that to people and mark it up collaboratively
70:50
which is actually really cool it's really cool i can see getting behind
70:53
something like that yeah and all this support hopefully someone doesn't just
70:57
mark the whole page um but i'm sure there will be that's all over stuff for
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that yeah um and all this collaborative ability is
71:05
built into the browser so all the buttons for it and stuff are built into the browser so it's very quick and easy
71:08
to do which is pretty cool um that's
71:12
the main thing in terms of markup and that's the main thing in terms of the rendering engine which they didn't
71:16
really talk about but it also has um
71:20
cortana built into it cortana cortana cortana
71:24
i have the markup clip here yeah so you can see later on he draws a smiley face
71:28
which i guess he'll do in a second i didn't realize this was actually playing
71:31
uh but like he circled it drew this does a smiley face and in a little bit here
71:35
you'll see him actually share it with other people well i think he i don't
71:38
know if he actually does but he goes to do it uh anyways cortana should be here
71:43
can we talk about how internet explorer and codename spartan will both be
71:47
included with Windows 10 yeah and spartan will be available uh pretty much
71:51
across the board so we're going to have spartan on Windows 10 is all about
71:55
unifying all this stuff so it'll be on your phone it'll be on the desktop it'll
71:58
be it'll be everywhere looks looks really interesting is there anything
72:02
else that we can talk about about spartan yet i mean they've redone
72:06
the ui to make it more because it's not Windows or it's not in an explorer
72:12
10. so let's move on to our should we talk about cortana on the desktop before
72:15
cortana in spartan i don't actually think so because
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cortana and spartan is very specific okay sure so let's talk about what
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cortana will do in spartan yes exactly so
72:25
she's not as yeah it does not function the same way
72:29
as cortana on the desktop so we'll talk about that in a second she's more of
72:32
like a a pre-done web crawler which will try to assume the information that you
72:37
want from a web page for you so say you go to the restaurant one is a very good
72:42
application for this it's a good example but it's also not a particularly
72:46
compelling example because i can i can google map search or restaurant and most
72:50
of that information comes up in the drop-off that's not all she does i know all right um so she can get you
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address and directions like you just said phone
72:58
number and all that kind of stuff which is usually quite easy to find on a
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restaurant website but there are definitely some restaurants where
73:07
they might not even have the menu on the website or they have it somewhere else
73:10
and she can try to figure out this information for you and if the menu
73:14
isn't super detailed or say you're like what the heck is that she'll have
73:18
already figured out all this information so if you click on a word that's like i
73:22
don't know artichoke which you should probably know but uh anyways she can
73:26
tell you about it she can give you dietary information all that kind of stuff it's kind of like consistent yeah
73:30
it's kind of an assistant in terms of that yes of course things like the
73:34
address is probably pretty easy and most websites are often there menu is often
73:38
there and often detailed enough but it'll also have like you can click on a
73:42
menu item and it'll give you yelp reviews yep like these kind of things
73:45
are actually pretty cool and helpful um not
73:48
ground breaking and not things that you wouldn't have been able to do on your own um but
73:53
helpful yeah and but stuff like when you start typing in an address having
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cortana kind of jump in and be like oh hey is this actually what you wanted to
74:00
know so it's all going to come down to how well it works and microsoft sales
74:04
pitch for cortana involves a whole lot of it's powered by bing
74:09
just like scary very scary it has bing
74:12
improved that that assumption thing that he was bringing up is basically if it
74:18
knows you're waiting for a flight from somewhere
74:21
if you're waiting for someone to come in and you start typing in that airline's website it'll just be like oh well that
74:26
flight's coming in at this time is that what you're actually looking for and then you don't really have to actually
74:30
go to the website which is nice which is very cool um we're also getting
74:34
cortana on the desktop and quite frankly i i don't understand why this didn't
74:39
happen before i have no idea why siri isn't on os 10. yep i ca i cannot think
74:45
of a reason why google now isn't a desktop app i mean every macbook and
74:49
every imac has a microphone like for sure it's on there uh and has speakers
74:55
like they're built in so
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why was apple not the first one to do this yeah uh they i mean they sat on ass
75:03
since they released siri and did nothing on the desktop uh anyway sorry go ahead
75:08
so cortana's coming to the desktop um
75:12
microsoft sorry go ahead it's like your typical kind of assumption for voice
75:16
control there's also kind of interesting things like that cortana is a trusted
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assistant so you can tell it what you want it to know and what you don't want
75:24
it to know yeah so in the notebook you can be like yeah i'd really prefer for
75:28
you to not know my gender or not know the year that i was born but the more
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information you give cortana the more relevant stuff will just kind of
75:35
pop up like hey the the game that you want to see yo
75:40
dog there might be some information about it or if you happen to be a big sports fan actually i thought one of the
75:45
best examples of it being smart was one
75:48
that they didn't even give in the presentation because uh the presenter
75:51
for this part was talking about how he was a big sports fan and the like front
75:57
and center on on on like whenever we were kind of looking over his shoulder
76:00
at his devices it was all about inflate gate
76:04
which is the big sports news right now yeah and uh so i thought i thought that
76:08
was really cool if there's more than i really need to stop putting gate on the
76:11
ends of things if there's more that cortana can do
76:14
to keep relevant information at your fingertips then i think that's great so
76:18
you just click on the the search bar near the start button you get like a
76:22
google now style information feed uh can be used through type or voice so you
76:26
don't have to yammer at your computer like a person who talks to their
76:30
computer if you don't want people to think you're crazy
76:34
um and yeah i mean it's it's probably worth
76:38
tuning in to just the cortana on desktop part of the keynote if you watch nothing
76:43
else well that and the other the hologram thing i actually see myself
76:46
using cortana on desktop more than i see myself using google now
76:51
i can i can imagine that yeah yeah definitely like i'm just walking
76:54
around my house especially because i have a snowball
76:58
yeah and like people that have mics that are not necessarily just headset mics
77:03
because uh especially ones that are like adaptive like a snowball is so if it
77:07
doesn't hear anything for a little while it'll try to reach out more right so if
77:10
i'm in my kitchen it might actually be able to pick me up right um and if i'm
77:14
like hey cortana play music it'll hear me from
77:18
fairly far away because it's a snowball and then actually be able to start playing music and stuff that's really
77:22
cool you might like google now more if it was if it was on the desktop if it
77:27
was on your wrist oh yeah um but although i still find myself using
77:30
google now very little because google now on my wrist can't control my
77:34
speakers on my desktop that's correct um so the integration of some other weird
77:38
stuff it's the ecosystem fragmentation so what i could do
77:42
is if i had sono support which will likely come eventually i could play
77:47
music yep so be like sonos play my google play whatever now whatever so
77:52
it's kind of going from google to uh through the sonos app so yeah so it's
77:58
it's so through sonos service sonos please play plays through
78:03
the sonos it's so it's so it's very fragmented but if microsoft can maintain
78:08
control of of all those different steps in the chain then yes it could provide a
78:12
very seamless experience yeah um one thing i do want to comment on sort of
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sort of accord they also showed off some cortana stuff on mobile so
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they they sent actually no i think this particular demo was on the desktop
78:26
yeah the email was on the desktop at about 35 minutes into the keynote
78:30
um where he uses cortana to type an email and the email is a one-liner with
78:36
a subject line and takes a minute to send and i kind of went all this talk
78:41
about natural interaction with our electronics and how touch and voice are
78:48
the direction that we're heading i agree with touch um touch touch always kind of
78:53
made sense to me voice continues to make absolutely no sense to me and i'm gonna
78:57
i'm gonna pull up my crystal ball and i'm gonna say voice will never be a
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mainstream interaction with a device uh well i
79:06
shouldn't say mainstream it'll never be it'll never be
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it'll never be a great experience and it'll always be a little bit weird um
79:13
talking to yourself totally wrong okay okay fine so let's
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let's let's get to that keep doing your thing so
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the reason that i have for this is that whenever you use voice control you are
79:27
going to disrupt everyone around you which means in the workplace it will
79:30
never make any sense because i i've been using it i've been actually i've been
79:34
having a little bit of fun with it because it's not like i don't have a voice control thing on my wrist at all
79:37
times i'll get a message uh while we're filming and i'll i'll be like
79:43
uh okay google blah blah blah um
79:50
what did it come up with that body body something lick anyway um
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so and i'll talk at it and immediately anyone else in the room kind of goes huh
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what because i'm not talking loud enough for
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them to hear me properly but i have to talk loud enough for the microphone to
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hear me so in an environment where you have to be around other people it's
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never going to make an ounce of sense and i even think the same thing will be
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true for the home to some degree yes there are fewer people and they're not
80:18
necessarily trying to do anything but if i'm reading on the chair and my son is
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on the couch trying to control some crap
80:27
on the screen and is talking at it i'm gonna be like shut up
80:31
pick up a controller because that's annoying because we're
80:35
hardwired in much the same way that our eyes are hardwired to notice movement
80:40
even in our peripheral vision we are hardwired to notice especially the sound
80:45
of another human being communicating and
80:48
it is extremely distracting to us if it's happening all the time and it has
80:52
nothing to do with what we're supposed to be paying attention to so i i don't
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see why any of those reasons mean that it'll never be a mainstream interactive
80:59
mainstream was the wrong word so i i said that immediately mainstream is the
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wrong word it'll be mainstream and then i was searching for another word and i
81:06
got lost because anyone can use it i mean what does mainstream mean it means
81:10
it's on every device and like anyone i think it will be very widely used but it
81:14
will be extremely edge case scenarios where it makes any
81:18
sense to use versus anything else i think uh an office setup like we have is
81:23
a fairly edge case scenario to be completely honest a lot of people have
81:27
cubicles and a lot of people are expected to be on the phone while they're in their cubicle a lot yeah i
81:31
think voice control while you're in an area where you're expected to be talking
81:34
to no one else is totally fine okay but also uh voice
81:40
control apps are trying to learn their user's voice that's a constant thing
81:44
that they're not very good at yet i'm not saying oh that wasn't even my
81:48
concern i'm not yeah yeah i know i'm going somewhere give me a moment um
81:54
we're far from it being super great we all definitely know that
81:58
um but it's trying to learn your voice so if you were in even a very crowded
82:03
very loud area if you talked at a fairly normal tone it should be able to figure
82:08
out that that was you talking and what you said and whether or not that comes
82:12
from uh microphones on your head better noise
82:15
cancellation better noise cancellation or somehow so you should be able to use
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it while walking around about wherever
82:23
very easily and it should be able to talk to you um you should be able to use
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it in cubicle style environments you should be able to use it in tons of
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different environments maybe it's not that thing where your
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dad's sitting in the same room as you and you're trying to talk to the tv
82:37
you should probably use a remote because definitely in that situation
82:41
your dad's going to be like what the hell are you trying to talk to me about i'm trying to read this thing right um i
82:46
don't expect it to be used there but just like almost every single other
82:49
input medium it hasn't replaced
82:52
the other input mediums you still expected like the the fact that we can
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already talk to our tvs has not removed right the clicker the fact that you can
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do motion control with a lot of tvs has not removed the clicker especially
83:04
that laptop has yeah really bad
83:07
really bad i hate those things the fact that this laptop has a touchscreen on it
83:12
hasn't removed the keyboard because the keyboard is still extremely good this is
83:15
a different way so okay i agree that it's a different way um what i the
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problem is i i don't even know if there is a word to describe my okay i guess
83:25
what i'm looking for is the the stigma
83:29
the the the weirdness of interacting with something by voice in front of
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other people i don't think that's going to go away and it might work better
83:37
better noise cancellation and voice recognition and will make it function
83:40
better and i think the the the things that are hearing you
83:44
whatever you want to call them at this point in time need to become more personable as well yes for that to be a
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thing and i think this might sound a little bit morbid but the people that
83:52
came before voice control was a big thing kind of need to die off and go
83:56
away no because i know that sounds like okay
83:59
so to be more socially acceptable yes you think either society needs to shift
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its perception which the only way it really happens is by and this is a known
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thing certain things don't get adopted until the people that
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were alive before it aren't alive anymore like that's i know that's a
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terrible thing to really say right but
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it's something maybe i'm one of the people who has to die one scenario i
84:23
don't even mean that one scenario i can see where it will
84:28
make more sense than it does today is if it's combined with something that where
84:33
you have a visual heads-up display that allows you to read because okay my issue
84:38
with voice control right now is whenever
84:41
it doesn't quite go right and and the safeguards that have to be
84:45
in place in case it doesn't go right because his one-liner email took a
84:49
minute to send that is devastating
84:53
maybe other people have lots of time on their hands but i don't have a minute to
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send a one-liner and if i was gonna send something much more complicated than a
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one-liner then i'm gonna spend either i
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or uh you know an assistant that i guess i have to hire is gonna have to spend a
85:08
bunch of time going through and editing something and they did show off okay you
85:13
can put in a hashtag and it automatically punctuates and all that stuff that doesn't mean i don't have to
85:17
go back through and edit it if i'm doing anything longer and more complicated so
85:22
to me again too i think this is where um
85:25
much further down the line and i've honestly i've always found the messaging
85:30
especially when it's not just a recording of your voice yeah to be a very odd use case
85:34
right for voice control because of these issues it takes way longer in the end
85:39
and like maybe okay if both of your hands are currently preoccupied if
85:42
you're trying to cook something yup say or if you're trying to do something else maybe sure and i use this for that
85:47
periodically yeah yeah i'm sure but then like when he's
85:50
his his thing was uh not you the guy in
85:54
the presentation was that he was like working on excel on his monitor and he
85:57
had too many excel things open so he couldn't send an email
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i'm just like just like it's
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it's gonna be so much easier the people okay that's my point then i guess yeah
86:08
the people inventing it don't seem to know what it's for
86:12
yeah because it's not for that no not really i don't i don't think that use
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case was very good i think voice honestly i think voice is a crazy
86:19
important medium i think it's going to be one of the most important ways that we interact with devices
86:24
not now i think it will be at some point in time
86:28
and there's a few things that could really fix this for me uh like if i didn't have to hold it to my
86:33
you know facebook yes no that's an important change that you make the recognition good if if i could if i
86:37
could like okay walking down the street would be a great example where
86:40
i i i wouldn't want to kind of
86:44
if i'm gonna pull out a device and kind of yak at it i might as well do it with
86:48
my phone whereas if i do have a head mounted display um or an augmented
86:52
reality display of some sort where i can read the message and then i just kind of
86:56
say okay yes okay that's
86:59
less weird to me than just kind of walking
87:02
down the street going like this like we saw that that version of the future
87:06
if you watch the movie where near the end of the movie just
87:10
everyone is walking around talking to their ai people that they're in or
87:15
people digital people that they're in relationships with their artificial
87:18
intelligences that they're in these relationships with um i i don't
87:23
see that happening and maybe it's
87:27
old-fashioned but we are going to crave the actual attention of other people and
87:32
other people are always going well in her relationships with your ai were not
87:38
were not that was still not very widespread closer to the end where even they were
87:43
they were friends but the like relationship it depends how
87:46
you define relationships sorry relationship doesn't necessarily mean girlfriend okay it just means
87:50
relationship yeah um so
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i don't remember where we're going with this i don't think you and i actually disagree that much i think it was true i
87:58
think it was the way that i phrased it it was a terminology thing like i think it's all we and when i say edge case i
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mean i don't mean edge case where only certain people will ever use it i mean
88:08
edge case within your daily life where it will make sense to use it like we've
88:11
got people bringing up that driving is a great use case for voice control and i
88:16
would mostly agree it still needs to be better oh yeah it needs to be better a
88:20
lot of the time i will go to use voice control i actually have a dock that sits
88:24
kind of about this far from my face so i can all like my phone is never more than
88:29
two feet from me in the car um and even with it there if i try to use voice
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control to reply to a text message it'll make a mistake unless i'm just saying
88:38
something very simple you know a good double-digit percentage of the time and
88:43
when that happens and i've got two seconds to cancel the notification all
88:46
of a sudden i'm scrambling for my phone and i'm driving until it's
88:50
basically perfect it doesn't make a ton of sense i think
88:53
right now it's definitely an edge case i think at some point in time i don't i
88:57
don't think it'll be nearly as much of an edge case and i think we'll almost be
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designing offices based around to it once we get to a certain degree all
89:03
right so let's go ahead and uh and move on to the xbox gaming app yeah so my
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games everything you play on any Windows
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10 device although i don't know how much
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clarification we have with respect to um
89:20
oh shoot what was i thinking when i was watching this crap i forget now anyway
89:23
okay so everything you play on Windows oh right right right right so there's lots of integration with things like
89:28
friends lists messages activity feeds um
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a lot of there's a lot of talk with respect to uh sharing with people and
89:36
communicating about skype and it's like that's great fix the ip resolver bug and
89:41
i'll talk to you about skype skype right now nobody should use it if they don't
89:45
want people to know their ip address and therefore their location yeah all you
89:48
need is someone skype id and you can know pretty much within a block where
89:53
they are or where they were where they've been
89:56
you can see a history it's terrible yeah it's devastating you should not be using
90:01
skype if you care at all so anyway all this integration with skype totally
90:05
irrelevant to me so they're talking about friends list messages all this
90:08
stuff and i kind of wonder okay well so are we tied to their social network they
90:13
mentioned steam very briefly yeah presenter said hey i'm just using a
90:16
gamer bunch of games he used it to launch a game but i don't know if we're
90:20
going to see any kind of cooperation between that's another thing that
90:23
actually bugged me is that he didn't launch the steam game through the xbox
90:28
gaming app launched it through he should have been able to click launch and it should have
90:32
maybe even just popped up steam and then loaded the game or something but he left
90:37
the xbox gaming app and launched it through steam so it looks like it might
90:42
be a replacement for the my games holding too many things um with with
90:46
more social integration uh there's activity an activity feed so you can see
90:50
like achievements that other people got and stuff i personally i don't creep my
90:55
steam buddies achievements that often so i don't really feel a need to to see
90:58
that um but what's cool is you can capture the last 30 seconds of gameplay
91:02
and uh edit it up and share it which is which is pretty cool something that we
91:07
kind of already have with service with things like NVIDIA shadow play but yeah
91:11
more refinement and more ubiquitous great yes people people jumped all over
91:14
that oh we already have this well not everybody shadow play is not on
91:18
everyone's things not even all NVIDIA gpus support shadowplay yeah and i know
91:23
a lot of people that have it don't have it on and i know a lot of people that have trouble with it and all this kind
91:27
of stuff this is built in everyone will have it
91:30
it's cool i like the fact that it's there i really like the fact that it's there it's easy to use too this one
91:34
remains to be seen if it's gonna be this closed garden sort of everyone
91:39
has to use the xbox gaming app and you have to you know interact with xbox
91:43
gamers uh then uh i i don't know how much i'd
91:47
like to take off i like that i'll be able to have some form of communication
91:50
with buddies that i have who might be playing xbox stuff honestly i think that's pretty cool i like cross
91:55
platforms and the fable legends demo was pretty cool so they had uh they had xbox
92:00
and Windows playing a game at the same time the thing about that demo though is
92:04
that a lot of fuss got made about how it's running on Windows 10 this isn't
92:07
new functionality and this isn't something that game developers haven't
92:10
been able to do for a long time um it's just they had a game that they could
92:15
show where it was actually done and it wasn't a shooter yet that's all that really happened i was hoping i found
92:19
that i was just pretty sure um he was wearing a grunt shirt i think
92:23
i don't know enough about halo because i haven't played in the last while but i think that was the grunt logo as in like
92:28
the little dudes anyways and the twitch channel let me
92:32
know but he was wearing a grunt thing so the whole time i'm like oh master chief
92:35
collection is coming to pc and it didn't i was like what come on but directx 12
92:41
is basically here at this point they're saying uh this is this is really funny
92:45
uh i like that i like the spin on it CPU-bound game performance um
92:51
CPU-bound games can see performance increases of up to 50 percent which is
92:55
basically like saying
92:58
not a whole lot is going to happen i mean AMD made the same kinds of claims
93:02
about mantle it is good that the pc is
93:05
finally getting apis that will support much greater numbers of draw calls for
93:09
better better complexity much lower level apis for interacting with the
93:14
hardware more directly allowing game developers to squeeze more performance
93:17
out of the hardware in general but much like we've seen on every game console
93:23
so far it's going to take time for devs to even
93:27
get any extra performance out of the hardware learning these new techniques
93:30
so we're not going to see i don't think anything that significant with the first
93:34
generation of directx 12 games other than much like AMD is touting with
93:39
mantle easy reporting from console versions uh look at assassin's creed
93:42
unity for a great example of a game that is severely
93:46
just hampered on the pc because it will
93:50
end on the console but compared to even to the console uh by the number of draw
93:55
calls that they just didn't reconfigure the game to not require on the pc
94:00
version um so so it'll enable that and
94:03
then other than that um yeah more efficient uses CPU so you
94:09
won't need as powerful as CPU and then given the way that the resolution race
94:14
has been heating up lately with us seeing basically 4k go from
94:19
totally way out there to basically affordable in like a year and
94:24
a half and with 5k displays on the horizon our dell 5k is in the mail by
94:29
the way 8k displays like slightly beyond the
94:32
horizon slightly beyond the horizon um we're not going to be CPU bound in
94:35
pretty much anything for quite some time i mean there are situations where it'll
94:39
be great i can see something like um you know a physics combat based game like a
94:44
space sim where all the weapons are physics based yeah we can see the
94:48
viability of these games actually being a thing more yes which is exciting but i
94:52
think people who are expecting there it's an expectation management thing i
94:56
think people expecting games that have a directx 12 and directx 11 version to
95:00
just perform 50 better in directx 12 i think they have another thing coming
95:04
what's cool about directx 12 though is there basically won't be many reasons to
95:07
run a game in direct x11 mode because uh directx 11 hardware for the most part
95:12
supports directx 12 across the board which is pretty cool
95:16
um you can stream from your xbox to your pc
95:20
should you so desire okay i thought this was cooler than
95:23
pretty much anyone gave it credit for oh yeah i didn't think was that cool so go
95:26
ahead um people hammered on it like convinced me uh i think it's cool for
95:30
the people now okay basically no one watching this but um
95:35
and now i agree with everyone saying that you should be able to use your xbox
95:40
as a streaming device from your pc so you should be able to stream from
95:44
your pc down to your xbox yep it should be both it should go way more sense it
95:48
should go both ways i completely agree but um what microsoft seems to be doing
95:53
right now is this slow
95:56
unity of everything yeah and one thing that i really like about the xbox gaming
96:01
app and one thing i really like about being able to xbox stream in one direction is that we might be able to
96:05
pile on top of that more and he he made it very very clear that the
96:11
game developers conference will have more information additional information
96:15
about stuff that they're doing and more news for gamers so there might be more
96:20
stuff so maybe streaming in both directions maybe more games are gonna be on both platforms uh maybe additional
96:25
stuff like that so i think it's cool that you can go in one way
96:28
the guys that might want to be playing xbox exclusives and that might be the
96:32
only reason why they have an xbox if mom and dad are on the tv will now be able
96:35
to play it on their gaming pc anyways um and there are exclusives that are
96:42
look interesting yeah that's a very frustrating but true fact
96:45
um so we still have to buy an xbox we
96:48
just don't have to look at it anymore which is still frustrating and there and
96:53
there it would be better ways to do this but they're they're i'm talking steps
96:57
here they're making things better progressively which is good
97:02
all right so i'm gonna go ahead and uh and pull this up but well do you want to
97:06
go over these bold things oh uh yeah i okay well there's there's a lot
97:11
more that microsoft can still do to make gaming on pc better i mean one thing
97:16
that yeah actually here you know what i'm just gonna kind of rant about a couple things here so one is i mean
97:20
where's our xbox one wireless controller dongles like come on
97:25
if you guys are gonna act like you're taking pc gaming seriously like at least
97:29
let us use your own freaking controller on your own freaking os i have to hope
97:32
that that kind of thing is coming soon and there's another thing that that i
97:36
find really frustrating about presentations like this you know they're fixing a lot of
97:41
problems that i didn't really have which is good because that's what an
97:45
innovative company does it takes what consumers want and kind of goes okay
97:49
that's interesting but here's what we think you actually need um and that's
97:53
fine but i don't see any talk about
97:56
making making the pc experience more seamless in the ways that we've been
98:00
complaining at them about for years like are we going to finally for the first
98:04
time ever install Windows and not have
98:08
any exclamation marks in device manager is
98:11
there any reason on earth
98:14
why something like an Intel storage driver shouldn't automatically work and
98:19
automatically be perfect or an Intel nick driver or or what whatever else you
98:24
know Windows update is such a powerful tool and so awesome and just so
98:30
under utilized at this time and i would have i don't know maybe i'm asking for
98:34
too much maybe that's just a mundane little detail and they're going to fix
98:38
it by the time Windows 10 launches and i'm going to be like holy crap the first
98:41
Windows that's actually easy to get started on but uh i just
98:46
it's like the fact that i can install Linux on one computer and have
98:50
everything work right out of the gate and install Windows on that same computer and have
98:55
a lot of it broken right out of the gate is really weird
98:59
like the adoption for Linux should not be as easy
99:04
i mean it should not be easier than it is for Windows that's just weird i love
99:08
Linux but like inherently you shouldn't be easier to
99:11
use than Windows it's just odd that's not that okay to be
99:16
clear it's not that Linux shouldn't be easier it's that Windows should be easier yes because they have so so many
99:22
resources to throw in it they're designed to be that easier install base
99:25
Linux is designed to be the more like badass we do it ourselves install base
99:30
and i'm not harking on Linux at all i'm just saying Windows should be easier to
99:34
install it's just weird okay well i wanted to pull up this section of the
99:38
live stream but my internet connection is being poopy so uh do you want to just
99:42
go ahead and start talking about uh about the headset
99:47
okay are we skipping the surface hub thing i don't know if it matters yeah
99:50
sure so there's a thing for like meetings and you can draw on it and uh
99:54
it's like super cool it's cool and you can if you care you can share meeting
99:58
notes like super easily because it's all basically a one note presentation so
100:01
it's just like liberty bloop send to the people who are in this meeting which is super awesome if you happen to buy a
100:06
gigantic surface thing for your meeting room and everyone uses one note and all
100:10
those things yeah um so Windows holographic the thing
100:14
that basically everyone's entire internet about yeah speaking of
100:18
exploding did you notice that at the moments when at an apple keynote
100:23
everyone would like burst into yeah what was with the people
100:26
at this one they need to bring us to the next one because when they unveiled like
100:31
Windows holographic or brought out that 3d printed drone i'd been like yeah
100:36
whoa the the audience of this one and like
100:39
watching them too like something really cool would happen and you'd see everyone go oh
100:43
it was like going to a canucks game yeah it was very it was very odd there
100:48
was no one was excited and you'd have like the guy go up there and be like do
100:51
you guys want to see it and like that's the cheesiest thing everyone ever and
100:55
everyone knows it but but you should you gotta have a couple people throw them a
100:59
bone you know you're not a single person stepped up do you know how stressful it
101:03
is to be up there presenting this stuff like like i'm not going to say life's
101:07
work but buddy here has been working on this for
101:10
seven years i mean that's a significant chunk of his
101:14
life and he's gonna show you this thing and you're not even gonna give him a what what you know come on anyway sorry
101:19
go ahead freaking cool i got it on the screen now i totally agree with that
101:22
actually that's that that was very frustrating watching this and again
101:26
that's the thing we're talking about earlier the presentation thing like not the most amazing presentation but i
101:31
appreciate it because of who he is and you can tell how interested in it he is
101:34
give the guy some freaking claps so he doesn't think he's doing a terrible job
101:37
not the clap lots of claps it's different okay go ahead anyways that was
101:41
a little annoying anyway okay so the uh
101:45
they're saying it's the most advanced holographic computer the world has ever seen which is probably probably right um
101:51
the dark visor up in front you'll notice there's kind of like uh lenses inside
101:56
that look kind of like glasses might actually be glasses and then there's the
102:00
kind of dark kind of somewhat see-through display on the front that
102:03
dark visor is a see-through display that's where the actual images are
102:08
showing up um it's called the hololens and it's still
102:12
in development but will be released in the Windows 10 time frame so
102:18
based on how quickly we saw Windows 8.1 view
102:21
that could be soon maybe pretty quick not really sure that being
102:25
said it will be in the hands of developers by spring
102:29
so no idea when you're gonna be able to buy it sometime in the Windows 10 time frame
102:33
but it'll be enhanced developers like super soon spring is not that far away
102:38
so that's actually pretty cool there's no external markers there's no external
102:43
cameras there's no external wires plugging into anything and there's no
102:47
connection to anything needed at all it's all inside
102:51
the hololens you don't have to be connected to a computer none of that kind of stuff super cool the sensors are
102:56
flooding the quote-unquote flooding the device with terabytes of data every
103:00
second which is kind of insanity it has a quote-unquote high-end CPU and
103:05
GPU and has its own unique hpu or hologram
103:10
processing unit inside now this is seen
103:14
through uh the the camera rig that you saw on the lady's shoulder which is
103:18
wearing the camera rig is kind of wearing hololens so it's looking through
103:22
the camera rig right now um how you interact with the device is
103:26
you're going to be able to see here the the lit up part you point with your face
103:30
and then you click with your finger i don't think you actually point with your
103:33
finger you just click and then there's um i think there's one other right voice
103:39
so it's voice controlled look controlled and finger click controlled obviously
103:45
i'm sure they can add functionality there will be lots more options in the
103:48
future yeah um one thing that bugs me about that control level right now is
103:54
especially in the demo which is of course a like in the future demo not
103:59
this one which actually looks really cool but anyways um it shows them you
104:03
you pick things up and you manipulate it and you stretch things and you do stuff
104:07
like that none of that works and you like wave at the wall and like a boom
104:10
your netflix shows up on the wall and you just sit down on the couch and
104:13
there's like a virtual tv that actually doesn't exist and is strapped to your
104:17
head and it's like wow holy crap so that kind of stuff doesn't really work yet
104:20
because the only controls are look click and voice um but they might be a thing
104:26
this does exist already so this is the holo maker i believe it's called or
104:31
whatever it's called that part of my notes got moved or something
104:36
holo studio there it is this is called hollow studio um so you have that kind
104:40
of like tool kit on the right hand side she's obviously created this thing way
104:44
more than just this one time yeah fast oh yeah she was really fast um but it's
104:50
pretty cool and not even just the idea of being able to make something in
104:54
hollow maker like she just made this um
104:57
quadrocopter but you'd be able to view things so
105:00
you'd be able to view a 3d model say you wanted to buy something off of uh
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squarespace not squarespace um i don't know some places it's a 3d model
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printing place that prints shapeways shapeways um
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i started with an s whatever if you wanted to buy something off of shapeways
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you'd be able to download the model and actually view it in this type of a form
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which is like really cool look around it like this look around it and like see
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kind of how it works instead of just looking at a 2d screen which is really cool because you're buying a 3d object
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and then you'd be able to get it printed and sent to you that's it's very very cool way to view things and specifically
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you know virtual reality will actually do some of these things really well
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maybe even better but augmented reality i 100 agree is
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with with sort of the the sentiments from the presentation is that it's it's
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separate and in some ways better yeah um and in some ways worse
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it's a different thing this thing is i will say it will never be
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mainstream something this big and this bulky yeah
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will never be mainstream well i don't think the hololens in this form will
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ever necessarily be this very early adopter thing and i think i think some
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people are gonna get like super stoked on it this is kind of like uh google
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google glass um ces 2014
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everyone and their freaking dog was running around on the show floor wearing
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google glass do you remember how many we saw yeah and then i don't think i've seen one single one no no and it's not
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because they all broke it's because the novelty wore off
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and google glass is dumb yeah like sorry
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and and there will be forms of of a google glass type device that will not
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be dumb but google glass is like super dumb and they know that though if you
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looked through the demo all the cool cinematic demos they
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weren't wearing anything yeah so how they're planning to do that we
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don't know yet no but maybe it's contacts let's give them some
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time hey but uh yeah it'll be quite a while but this is a very cool start and
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i think could be very cool for certain applications like that thing i was
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talking about viewing 3d things in real space because vr would be nice for
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viewing 3d models but sometimes you want to see it on something yeah furniture
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shopping furniture man holy crap furniture shopping is like impossible
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whereas if you could just plunk models of stuff down and like redecorate that
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way freaking awesome or better yet if you could you know use a technology like
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this to have a skype call with someone who's also looking at it with you and
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advising you this was one of the coolest things sorry i gotta jump on that
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actually one of the coolest ways that this can be applied in the in the video
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they show uh putting a uh
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fixing some plumbing yeah i don't know the name of it right now but and and the
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person on the other end of the skype call is seeing a flat 2d image of what
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you're able to see and can draw on that image um it's like put it here and here
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yeah yeah and in this video it's very interesting oh
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maybe not this video not sure um in one of the videos the guy that was in this
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video for a moment talks a lot longer about his experience
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oh no not this guy just a guy that looks very similar anyways and he actually got
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to do some of these demos which is one of the coolest things about hololens and
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something that i didn't know until i watched this whole thing is that like
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this demo they're doing it right now sorry this this mars demo is is working
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right now obviously this is a render and it doesn't look that great but you're
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able to walk around the mars environment and one thing that's pretty cool that
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they show here very small but they do show it here is that he's
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able to take his mouse and take it off screen and onto the hololens right and
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he can click and manipulate things that are in your hololens screen using his
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mouse and Windows 10 together and then can walk into the hololens area and look
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at mars one thing that and they were able to do that demo in real time now
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with reporters um and like the verge
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went and did it and then another demo that was working right now which is
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really cool is the plumbing one yeah so he's he
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swapped out a light switch the guy told him where to put the wires and where to secure them and all that kind of stuff
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and he was able to swap out the light switch without ever doing it before with
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the help of someone who was in spain that's super cool like if you're not
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sure how to fix something my dad crazy handy person if i was able to be like
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hey how do i do this and he could just be like pop your hololens on and let's
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uh he doesn't have to yeah he just has to have skype um i think that's super cool
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it definitely has uses again
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exactly what you said it's not gonna be glass um or it's not gonna be what glass
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was trying to do it's not gonna like you're not gonna see 20 people walking
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down the street wearing these unless you happen to be at ces 2015 or ces 2016 i
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guess um i think that's pretty much it i think we're gonna we're gonna have to wrap up
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the show we ran for almost uh almost two hours here comcast congratulations
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you're the worst company of 2014 ubisoft was not in the running yeah well they i
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think they wanted it to seem like a contest so um so admire starships has been
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announced it looks like ftl um according to
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a study that cnn.com posted this smarter
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people use iphones which is ridiculous it has nothing this is tiny sample size
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making ridiculous jumps like that iphones are more popular with rich
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people and rich people tend to be more highly educated and there are four are
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smarter although somehow an indication of intelligence so come on they claim
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their sample size is millions but it's actually just one thing that pulled
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more than once on the same person the actual install base i was reading in the
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comments across both types of devices was only like 1200 users or something
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so google play now apparently has more apps than the app store which is not to
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say anything necessarily about the quality of the aforementioned apps um
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and acer has a predator 34-inch
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3440x1440 g-sync curved monitor coming
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acer acer has is like turning into like the
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monitor company an exciting company to follow about with monitors yeah i mean
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they've dabbled in the past they had their um their their their gaming
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branded like orange and black uh 3d
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vision display um they had their ferrari
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branded ones like way way back like every once in a while they're like
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ah maybe we'll make a high-end monitor and then it's like a bunch of commodity
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stuff and then it's like hey now they care all of a sudden very cool anyway
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thank you guys very much for tuning in to the lan show today hold up hold up
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some guy just messaged me flaky banana says guys the skype issue is fixed
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awareness is the issue sent me an image of allow direct contacts connections to
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your contacts only that totally doesn't work talking about awareness to the
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issue that is not safe that does not save you in any situation and you're
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still totally scared the resolver got patched within days if i recall
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correctly yes uh because we heard about that and thought it was fixed and boom
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ddosed when show yes it is totally not fixed the problem is still totally there
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and you're right awareness is a big issue
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and that's what we're doing yes
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um i just wanna like i'm not even trying to
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hammer on you specifically i'm just i want you to be aware
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before that becomes a problem for you uh oh this is interesting yeah i know
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the glass explorer program is over that's not really what i was talking about i was talking about how the people
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who own them aren't wearing them anymore because they're over it um okay so i
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think that's it see you guys
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we had like 500 people tune out during the Windows talk whatever screw it
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um
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my