New CPUs From Intel *and* AMD - WAN Show June 6 2018
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2019-05-06
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WAN Show Topics
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- Intel's 28 core, 56 thread processor
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- Threadripper 2
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- Steam policy update
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- Seasonic's new System Cable Management Device
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- Sponsor: Squarespace
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- Sponsor: Freshbooks
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- LTX18
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- Floatplane
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- AMD's 7nm GPU
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- Gigabyte's fake RAM
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- 150,000 GitHub projects moved to GitLab
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- Pixel 3 leaks
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- NBN CEO blamed gamers for slow internet
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- Organic carbon molecules found on Mars
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- Amazon return policy abusers sentenced to nearly 6 years in prison
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boom and we're live hey all right hey
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welcome to the went show this week we have john it's been a while it has been
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a while i do you don't remember the last time no i don't i remember the audience
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i vaguely remember a santa hat maybe so hentai has probably been the one okay
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but yeah that might have been the like uh i i've done this every year
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where i bring each person on to the show yeah at the end well it might have been
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that yeah when i got stuck at the u.s border people are saying john but
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they're spelling it wrong oh no someone spelled it right that happens literally
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every time like it happens to me on twitter and my name is right there it's
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on twitter if they send you a message it has the at and then the correct spelling
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of your name and if you're on the forum you might know in my signature i'd say i
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stole my name without an h people still get it wrong so i'm just i'm used to it
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by now i don't even notice it anymore yeah well that's alive i do but you know
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my problem is that i know like three different spellings of john well
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no one of them was johnny i guess oh yeah okay his is like actually kind of
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weird for johnny what is because it's five letters yeah yeah
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so i don't know yeah we're talking about the guy that
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does some of our server work here who was also my landlord funnily enough and
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and people have seen him on camera oh yeah they have so yeah johnny's johnny's
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basically the nicest person on the entire planet but he can't make it to so
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every single year we'll get into the show in a second don't worry but every single year i since i was like 15 i've
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been going to pax west and i bring all my friends every time and johnny can't
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make it this time and really very weird
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it's actually like very very weird that he's not going to be that really a
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strange the rest of people that have been go that are gonna be going are all
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like it's so weird that johnny's not gonna what are we gonna do
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i don't know i feel like he would be the straw that serves a drink so to speak so
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yeah yeah so it'll be it'll be interesting but it should be good this
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week we have interesting news because like computex is happening and e3 is
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right around the corner and all this kind of stuff there's interesting stuff going on we don't have a lot of gaming
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news quite yet because i think that'll probably be next week um
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but we've got Intel news a unnamed 28 core 56 thread CPU we've got news about
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second gen threadripper being on track for a q3 2018 launch that means this
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year also massive changes to the steam store we were talking about this
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recently on awan show it's gonna be crazy i actually think it's super cool
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but we'll talk about that later there's an obscene amount of notes on that uh
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AMD unveiling a seven nanometer GPU
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that's insane Gigabyte making fake RAM
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and it's actually really cool
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so it's kind of like bonded leather
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i understand that and then actually my favorite news of this week even though
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it doesn't necessarily sound super cool see sonic introducing scmd
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and your cable clutter it's amazing i can't show you what it is right now i'm
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getting one for suresies but we'll have to talk about the jerseys i'm constantly
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kicking the cables underneath my desk in my office they won't help you with that
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it's like cables inside your computer but it's super cool we'll get there later
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it worked this week is going well yes
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it was going well until i died again rip
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also Anthony bourdain died yes i know very sad he was what 61 i think i don't
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know i liked him though that sucks
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freshbooks ltx be there or or don't but preferably
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be there if you can because it's cool and i'd like to say hi also squarespace
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yeah i'm gonna put this back up here and
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we're back boom okay that's all it takes when show
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intro completed let's move up to the top
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because we've got this crazy Intel processor that has some interesting news
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coming with it thank you by the way to vegetable stew and radiating light for
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soil vegetable stew i see we do there oh very clever oh yeah i'm gonna post this
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link in the wan doc you look like you had something to say do you
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i was just commenting on vegetables too although i did cover this today well
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james covered it but i wrote the thing today for techlink on this story oh so
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okay yeah so do you have any interesting quips from that because you definitely
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know more about it than i do i have some interesting things to bring up but okay
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what do you think okay well without i guess without running through the bullet
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points first so i'll give a quick tl dr sure yeah so computex Intel shows off
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this 28 core 56 thread CPU and they did
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this demo of it and it was like oh man the CPU is running at five gigahertz
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it's so cool um so after it happened um a few people
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noticed that there was a gigantic weird like
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industrial water chiller sticking out the back of the unit um i think they had
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it set up such that you couldn't see it straight on when they were actually doing the demo
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so but that wasn't even like the worst of it they also said this chip was
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running at five gigahertz not telling people that it had actually in fact been
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overclocked so a lot of people were thinking that oh this thing is just
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going to run this freaking 28 chord xeons is going to run at 5 gigahertz out
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of the box which was not the case at all Intel got called out on it they had to
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acknowledge it and then they ended up saying oh well they blamed it on
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quote unquote the excitement of the moment or something like that and they
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said that their guy running the demo just forgot he forgot to say oh by the
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way this is not running at stock speed so people were very understandably upset
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about that lame but honestly i can kind of
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understand if it's just the demo guy that forgot to say it
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now if there was like pressed documents given out to any degree
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it should have it in there and the guy shouldn't forget admittedly i'm not sure
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if there were documents handed out but i have no idea i think it was just whoever
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was running the demo said five gigahertz come on man don't forget that so the
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processor is clocked at 2.7 gigahertz
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normally and without revealing turbo speeds which
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they haven't done they were able to overclock it to five gigahertz which is
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pretty crazy um the demo setup was
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cooled by an 850 dollar uh aquarium chiller which consumes which
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the chiller alone consumes 1200 watts and is meant to be
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able to cool a thousand liters of water so we have just found an actual
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use if you buy a 1600 watt power supply
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we finally found a real world usage so you run a 400 watt computer
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1200 watt chiller that would be sick i'd love to see that
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so yeah it's it's pretty cool um we'll have to see how freaking hot this thing
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actually gets normally um and how high you can overclock it
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with reasonable cooling solutions and i'm sure Linus will be all over that
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once he's able to get his hands on it or to find reasonable like was a 480
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millimeter radiator reasonable or that's fairly aggressive yeah but it's
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not the same it's way more reasonable
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yeah yeah like even like a triple personally i would like to see a double
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red a double 120 or a double 140 yeah that that's very if you whatever you can
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overclock it on that that's solid because i think that's probably where
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most people kind of are when they're yeah like really wanting to be an overclock a nice thick thi cc
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but still regular sized radiator yeah cool i'd be cool with that so okay
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that'll be interesting next up in crazy
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processor news we've got a post from alex solo thank you very much saying
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that the second generation threadripper is on track for a q3 2018
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launch it's AMD zeppelin silicon let me get
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this on screen and in the twitch zeppelin so we've moved away from like
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earth moving material and now we're doing blimps
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and awesome music
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okay there we go
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cool 12 nanometer 3264
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second gen features i know a lot of people are saying like
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oh it's it's not it's not the most exciting processor ever
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i don't care is there well i'm happy that i i'm mainly just stoked that
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they're continuing to step forward instead of abandoning for a huge section of years
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again well is there anything as like a most exciting process or ever anymore
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even just with the white stream there's some really exciting computer hardware
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later on in the show i am so stoked for this you have no idea i think most of
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people in chattanooga be like yawn but i think it's amazing so don't worry about
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it but yeah i i think this is super cool it's i think it's great that they're
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pushing forward again with Threadripper going with their big heavy hitter as
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well bringing out another one this year definitely that's super cool they're not
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backing down it's 3264 which is sick um i'm really excited for this process
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that's insane um 250 watt TDP
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boom so boom many
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don't even care super cool
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well not not in a literal sense but yeah
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it's nice and warm actually uh they've they've got it displayed next to some
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nhu 14s which aren't even that huge
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so that's not too bad yet that's a beautiful looking board good
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job MSI
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i like that aesthetic looks cool
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that one too ASUS
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everyone has cool boards these days i like that like when i first got into
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computers it was like oh wow you got a board with a black pcb yeah that's
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amazing even having a non-green like it felt like back in like 2009 2010 it was
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like oh the pcb is blue buy this and
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that was it yeah yeah yeah and now we have like like this one has like under
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lighting that's RGB and like metal accents and like aggressive little thing
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over the io like they look so cool now i don't know that's pretty sweet but yeah
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this is cool i'm very happy that uh they're they're launching another
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processor i know some people aren't that interested like i was saying earlier uh
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AMD zeppelin silicon has eight cores and is the first generation threadripper and
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the first generation threadripper uses two of them to get the top skew of 16
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cores that's written a little oddly but hopefully that makes sense yeah um
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moving on
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yeah i think that's pretty much about it yeah uh rumors are saying august and
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there's no pricing yet yeah so coming up hopefully hopefully you got the dollar
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bills for it if you need 64 threads yeah i was gonna say if you need that uh if
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you need that it's probably for some type of work application so hopefully it's okay i would say almost certainly
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for work yeah like maybe there's someone out there just really likes benchmarking
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just freaking loves it or like is just really really into editing home videos
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in like wicked quality yeah exactly like like
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someone else i need to have cinema level quality of my kid playing ball just
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spent like five figures on like a red or something and like i need yes i need to
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look make the driveway ball hockey yeah look like it was put together by
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i need to film my kids schooling the neighbor kid in hockey with a red yeah
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and then edit it very efficiently so when they send like the kids like hockey
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mix takes the junior leagues they're to be like the production values are
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amazing are we going to have to bring this kid 100
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uh moving on to the next topic posted by matrix07012
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uh james and i were someone is yelling what the heck i don't
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know if uh twitch got to hear that but james and i were talking about this last
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week uh twitch took a game
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down where you were a school shooter wait
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twitch or steam did sorry steam did okay completely i don't know i just i
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said twitch because i was clicking on the twitch tab and it just like invaded
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my brain but yeah steam took a game down because it was like about a school
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shooter uh also twitch chat apparently heard the yell so thank you april um but
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yeah and my stance on that was essentially if
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twitch wants to do this if this is within twitch's policies why do i keep
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saying twitch if steem wants to do this and this is within steam's policies
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maybe you're turning aggressively yeah you're turning you're actually turning
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red i don't like saying the wrong thing man let's go yeah you probably can't
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tell at home but this guy this guy looks like a lobster right now like like to me
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so i have very pale skin so it shows really easy
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uh it's it's that scandinavia in me um
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but yeah i i think it's completely within their right to take it down some
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people were screaming for free speech and i'm like this isn't a government
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platform it's it's a company if they don't want to have yeah they could they
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can do basically yeah but i also really like what they
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ended up doing which is saying that we don't care anymore yeah so what they're
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doing now is they're only removing items that are
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actually illegal or straight up trolling
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quote from them so but unless it's one of those two things then the game is
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probably fine so yeah so like my my stance on this is
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interesting because people there's actually a surprise amount of people that have asked me about this um
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because of how i run the forum and how i run flow plane
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because they're actually so different on the forum things get axed yeah all the
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time this is a tech forum stop screwing
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around we're gonna get rid of that it's a little bit it's a little bit different though because you're on the forum you
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have to like keep peace between users or it falls apart this is just a store
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where you if you don't yeah if you don't want to act interact with anyone you
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don't have to and it's also like the the center of the topic here is
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supposed to be games yeah not a type of game and the
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center of the thing on the forum is tech news you guys are tech stuff in general
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i was thinking the tech news section but the computer stuff tech stuff gaming
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stuff whatnot if you're going outside of that it might make sense and off topic
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but if it's too far like we're not we don't want to mess with that kind of stuff sure is a
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tech focused forum Floatplane on the other hand
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is a website for creators
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if you are a user and you go on Floatplane and you don't want to see a
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certain type of content don't give the person who makes that content your money
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and you won't see it it's fairly straightforward so i don't
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really care what people do on the platform and i don't i don't want to care i can i
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can have the stance personally where i'm like as a personal human being as luke i
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don't like this content i don't necessarily hope that they do
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well i don't hope that they have a big audience but i'm just going to vote with
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my wallet but i'm going to facilitate their platform and be impartial because
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okay i am acting on behalf of a platform um and i will do nothing to hinder them
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in any way um because that would be bad were you
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saying that the steam store was allowing the school shooting game or they took it
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down i think they took it down but i think that was
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um because right now they're they're going
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with the allow everything approach but i believe they took it down um and i
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believe they're keeping it down because i'm pretty sure the guy that made it was already banned from releasing games and
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he made it as a troll i'm pretty sure okay which they are reserving the right
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to kick off another interesting question is uh what
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even is a game because you can publish stuff on steam
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is it a game if it's a visual novel and you just click next constantly
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processing respects yeah does it now make it a game if there's multiple
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options to click next that still could be a visual novel it's
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just a choose your own adventure visual novel does that make it a game does that not make a game it's a it's an
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interesting conversation what's up um so this is why this is why i've sort of
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been like silent for a second um because i think uh so okay here we go steven's
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policy change follows the platform's banning of controversial school shooting
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simulation game active shooter so yes you were you were correct so they they
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took this down yeah yeah but i think so like
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i think what this is saying is that they would have left it up
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but yeah this guy was already banned off the platform yeah they are he they think
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he's trolling he's a notorious troll he has a record of having terrible customer
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service and all this other kind of like there's other reasons why they wanted to
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take this thing down um so i think they're leaving it down
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because of those reasons gotcha uh
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it's it's gonna be an interesting time because i think this is gonna spawn
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not that there isn't already but i think it will spawn an incredible amount more
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of garbage on steam
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there is already a lot of garbage because there's no law against like a
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bad game yeah so yeah yeah i know i know what you mean so so they have yeah
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they've it's it's interesting and another thing that they were talking about is how
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apparently uh there was a lot of controversy in the community as to
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whether or not they should allow everything or they should ban
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a whole bunch of different stuff or whatever there was a lot of controversy in the community right a lot of people
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were angry that they took this game down i'm not
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first of all i don't care second of all i think it's their right to do whatever
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they want is their platform and third of all they already didn't like the
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publisher bad customer service troll band already in the past so there's many
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reasons but some people were very upset that they took it down some people were
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very uh some people think they should have taken
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it down some people think they shouldn't have basically and what valve has said
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is internally apparently they've had essentially that same war
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they have like the same spectrum of people that are outside
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talking about this inside the company so they've essentially decided if if the
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community is all mixed and we're all mixed we'll kind of let the community
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sort it out well yeah i mean you talk about like a lot of trash potentially
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showing up on the platform but you know this is the same for like the app store
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or this is the same for google play there's a lot of stuff there that all
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that google or apple have done have vetted to say this does not contain
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malware but other than that there's no guarantee as to the quality
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of what you're buying but the model still works especially on steam where i
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feel like it's easier to filter out stuff that you don't want to see as far as like recommendations or whatever i do
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think they'll need to do a much better job of categorizing and filtering things i know
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they do some suggestions already but they need to amp up that system i know
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that uh they plan on
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making it so there's parental controls in terms of what stuff you can see and
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what stuff you can't see obviously that's gonna have to come in so like
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theoretically you wouldn't be able to see active
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shooter or uh a game with twice or something yeah
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banging simulator 2019 unless you have your settings to be uh
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to be allowed to see those types of waifu banging simulator it's 2019. it's
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yeah it's next year yeah 10 more poly already yeah it's amazing
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it's the best game if it even is a game i don't know um
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moving on to my favorite thing in this
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show i don't know if everyone else is going to agree with me but i think it's freaking fantastic and i'm getting one
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for suresies this was posted by wmk groom ak on the
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forum uh it is a pc per article and it's
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from sea sonic it is the seasonic scmd
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let's have a look at this thing it's the system cable management device that's
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what you think they could have you know what i would say you think they would
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come up with like if they're going to have a four-letter name they could do something sexy you know like the nzxt
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puck or whatever it is yeah scmd doesn't
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i'm just gonna go down to the store and buy some scrimmed uh so what's cool
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about this is it's this bar
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what is this sound good um someone is shuffling through some equipment over
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there um sorry about that twitch chat but it and youtube later on but it's
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this bar that you can put into the back of your computer you can see there's
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some ssds mounted here and stuff and you plug all your power supply cables into
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the bottom of the bar and then you branch off them later on higher up so
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it's yeah speaking of nzxt they have um a few of their cases on it's like you
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know the s340s for this they have the cable management bar built in but this
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one looks a little a little bit more like a one size fits most kind of solution yes
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and my understanding of it right now is like because in this picture in this
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picture it shows that it's connected directly to the power supply
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but uh this bar you can see is off by itself
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there like i don't i don't have a ton of pictures of this thing but my
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understanding is that you should be able to get it separately that's what yeah it kind of i mean if
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they're going to if they're going to enter if they're going to introduce
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this thing called the skoomed and they'll make a
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big deal out of it you would think that you could buy it without buying a seasonic power supply so apparently that
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is an RGB logo so this c sonic logo is
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RGB uh can i say i'm a little bit surprised by this because it's RGB see sonic's
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whole like mo as a company they're they're very like straightforward not a
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whole lot of frills like if any of y'all if y'all follow see sonic on twitter you
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probably know what i'm talking about but the stuff they make is pretty good so i
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really like even something even we were not compensated to say that just
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personal opinion but um but uh well if you look at my uh personal rig there's a
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season right yeah dude has a csun yeah that's right but yeah even though that
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was not a sponsorship so it's always fine no just i was just
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gonna say even something is you know a simple provision of an RGB logo
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surprises me a bit but i think it looks pretty sharp yeah yeah like even their
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prime power supplies there's an RGB on it um but yeah apparently it does drop
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your efficiency by one percent overall that's
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really not a lot um
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my main thing is in in what it looks like this case right here in my case at
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home cable management in the back of tempered glass cases especially when there's not
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a big gap is a nightmare yeah and this looks really good yeah and
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that's the trend now isn't it because you're seeing more and more cases that
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even like like reasonable price points where it's tempered glass all the way
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around and i think there was just an assumption that people thought this
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would be cool and that has been true to a degree but there's also plenty of you
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out there that just want to hide all the messy cable riding behind the
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motherboard tray so it looks like it can power some fans
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are those you see this are those fans are those SATA
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i'm pretty sure those are fans i think you're right yeah those those look like fan cables yeah
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everything is seems like it's seemingly intelligently
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placed too like this looks like a SATA bridge coming right off of there with a really
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short run directly just because you have some right there so this is right up at
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the top and it's your CPU power 24 pins right off on that side like it looks
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like they've paid attention it does as long as you're not running some like weird exotic setup where you have like
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SATA headers like all the way up towards the top it looks like it's probably fine for most systems even then it might work
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i just i don't have very good pictures i don't know
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and this okay to be fair this little blue cable
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i just realized almost certainly doesn't come with it these are probably
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aftermarkets mm-hmm um maybe they sell them as like
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a kit that like goes with it we'll have to see i don't know a ton about it right
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it could just be cable mod cables i don't know but but i actually think that's really cool that's that's the
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first this happens every show i don't know why google docs decides to sign me
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out part way through every single time
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that's so annoying that's happened to me before when i've tried to upload tech wiki videos thanks google but um
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but it's the first time in a long time that i've looked at a piece of computer
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hardware and been like i am going to buy
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that basically now and put it in my system
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right away the one percent efficiency drop is really funny to me not because
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well i do think it's good that they're being transparent about it but i can see
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someone out there with like an 80 plus power supply like the lowest year of 80
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plus and then he hooked this thing up to and they're like oh well
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they're there to go with my superior efficiency to to that to that you know
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um raid max power supply might be a neighbor
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whatever so uh apparently it will kind of three
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sizes which makes sense there's probably like general itx cases general m-a-t-x
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different sizes yeah three squares yeah you know i and i know i said this before
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but i'm still baffled as to why
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m-a-t-x is not a more popular thing if
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you're a gamer it's like the most logical form factor to get but that's a
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different discussion so yeah i think it's i i like it and it's really not
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popular but i yeah i agree and i have no idea why
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but on that note of having no idea why i have no idea why
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if you are making a new website and don't have a website yet for your like
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small business or self or whatever you don't check out squarespace
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uh they have 24 7 live chat and email support so if you have any problems i
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have no idea why you wouldn't just contact them also it's only 12 bucks a
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month and you get a free domain if you subscribe for a year they have
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responsive design so it looks great on your various devices like your phone
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your tablet your laptop your your watch your desktop whatever your tv doesn't
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even matter they have commerce modules so you can have a free built-in online
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store if you want to sell some stuff which is really cool no screw off don't
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restart i pick a time which is not now
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we're just having some slight technical difficulties 9 p.m i hate Windows 10 why are we using
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Windows 10 on this computer anyways moving on uh cover pages if you want to
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have like a one simple page set up which
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is just good for like resumes or cover letters or like hey look at me this is
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my about me page it's perfect for that also everyone can now publish content in
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the apple news format directly from their squarespace blog module which
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makes it available to millions of potential users because there's tons of
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purchase you know i also have problems saying squarespace whenever i do it
26:25
whenever i do a squarespace thing for techwooky i say squarespace
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square or space i almost said that i don't think why do i do this done that
26:33
before yeah maybe it was like your presence oh my god see now now i'm just
26:37
ruining the the rest of like our productions now and i i hope this isn't
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so much yeah you want to ruin things like your accounting
26:47
and like your write-offs you could use
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freshbooks you should use freshbooks to keep track of everything uh freshbooks
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is the super simple invoicing tool that actually does a lot more than just uh
26:59
invoices it helps you keep track of uh your invoices it helps you keep track of
27:04
your expenses it helps you keep track of your hours all that kind of stuff it
27:08
keeps track of who owes you what which is great it also has a feature that
27:12
tells you when your clients look at an invoice for the first time and it has a
27:16
mobile app which has all the functionality of their desktop application which is really good because
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a lot of new business uh owners just use phones to run through their stuff so
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they can move around and do things you can take freshbooks wherever you go
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which is great if you have any questions feel free to reach out to their support staff or you'll speak to a human no
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phone tree no escalations no return calls just answers
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also visit freshbooks.com when answer when and how do you hear about a section
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when you sign up to get a free trial which is pretty cool
27:46
and speaking of pretty cool ltx you're pretty cool if you show up to ltx
27:50
because then i'll see you um and that would be pretty neat ltx ha
27:55
is a meetup and interactive tech event the interactive honestly the meetup part
27:59
is is hopefully cool you get to meet all of us here at Linus media group
28:04
which might sound weird because i'm not part of whatever don't worry about it um
28:08
but you get to meet everyone from Linux media group plus me
28:12
and the really cool part though and the reason in my opinion why you should go
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is because it is a interactive tech event
28:20
it's not just a convention where you get to go see a couple booths and you maybe
28:23
take a picture with someone and you bail there are actual things
28:27
which is amazing like i like i'm not even kidding or trying to oversell this
28:31
at all i had so much fun last year it was very very enjoyable as well and like
28:35
it was so cool that rod and bob were there and showing people how to do hardline water cooling bends with actual
28:41
tubes you got to sit there with a heat gun and make a tube bend with hard line
28:45
water tubing which takes some of the fear out of it this year we're going to be leading to deleting your cpus
28:50
that is sick where else can you just try to learn that from people that really
28:54
know what they're talking about i don't know ltx is a really cool event if you
28:57
want to check it out you absolutely should it is held on july 14th at the
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richmond olympic oval in richmond bc i know it's in canada i'm sorry try to get
29:06
here if you can the good news is you don't have to know how to skate that's
29:09
true unlike in 2010 when they had the olympics there and they had the speed
29:12
skating yeah that the ice is going on so you can you can just walk in you don't
29:16
have to skate in completely fine completely safe uh
29:20
current booths include a blind cable management competition brought to you by
29:23
cablemod a d-litting workshop so you can bring your cpus and we'll show you how
29:27
to delid it a cable toss or sorry case
29:30
toss 2.0 which is cool that was a good idea that it got updated uh multi-headed
29:35
vr so you can go up against each other in vr which is cool a lan
29:38
like that's cool we're gonna have like an actual lantern yeah yeah a 12k ultra
29:43
wide gaming setup what that's like 4k but times three
29:48
times three um and more there will be more on top of
29:53
that there's going to be food there's going to be music there's going to be
29:57
music probably okay where's Colton
30:00
i wonder like is it live music are we just going to play music over speakers
30:05
um please direct all inquiries uh twitter Colton underscore potter that
30:09
ask him everything there'll be cool systems to look at for sure more room
30:13
more games more swag than last year the fact that we have more swag is insane
30:16
because every single person left with at least one thing last year there's
30:19
special guests there's exclusive live unboxings just like last night this will
30:24
probably drop something probably yeah um and more which includes the Linus
30:28
dropping something come hang out tickets start at 35 canadian that's really not
30:31
that much money it really is worth almost nothing 35 canadian if you're
30:35
american or from the eu you probably have that much in like whatever your
30:38
currency is just in your couch cushions right now so
30:42
and you can check it says them out but what that's weird it's you can check the
30:46
link out in the link below uh or on screen if you're watching on twitch over
30:51
there ltxexpo.com it's it's super hard to get
30:54
to um and then that brings us to the flight
30:59
plan uh which oh i don't know if i have we
31:03
had a very very very illuminating episode of tech
31:06
quickie out on Floatplane today oh very illuminating what one is it should i
31:10
tell them or are we are we already really trying to plug this one yeah
31:15
oh that's pretty interesting isn't it though
31:19
see if this guy says it's interesting he's been doing this for longer than i have so that's actually i
31:24
yeah i don't know yeah and i want to know so we're gonna we're gonna show my
31:28
screen so it doesn't seem insane but there's a tech cookie episode on the
31:31
fastest possible internet how fast
31:35
can you actually go yeah how fast can you download gotta go fast questionable
31:40
videos yeah pretty much that's a question uh
31:45
there's there's uh AMD's 32 core fu to
31:50
Intel wow that's a little like for a second i thought you're going to read out a model number that started with fu
31:56
uh portable professional workstation with three displays that thing is
31:59
actually insane and a pumpless liquid cooler from der bauer which that's
32:04
another video both these videos at the top i'm super interested in checking out
32:08
anytime der bauer does anything it's amazing they sound very like german
32:12
and intense you know well yeah it is german engineering uh also there is bit
32:16
whit ultra on here and tech deals i'm not going to show you their guys's their
32:19
stuff because i don't know if i'm like really necessarily even allowed to but
32:24
if you're a fan of tech deals or if you're a fan of kyle at bit wit
32:28
check out their channels as well their stuff comes on here a week early
32:32
everyone's using the same model right now full plane does not make people use
32:35
this exact model but everyone has done the exact same thing which is fine but
32:38
it's three bucks per channel so far every single person has gone with three
32:42
dollars and you get their content a week early the comment section is awesome
32:46
because there's way less cancer than on youtube uh way less it's like always
32:51
positive discussion which is super cool and we have uh in terms of features that
32:55
are coming soon one of the really cool ones that people have been asking for a while is playback speed
32:59
there's some guys that apparently watch it like two times or one and a half times on youtube they just gotta get
33:04
stuff done i have i'm guilty of watching things at 1.5x on youtube sometimes that
33:09
is that that's actually a good feature fully operational uh relatively soon
33:14
the comment section thing on Floatplane you can actually have a comment score or
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the negative so if someone just posts like
33:21
if someone just posts the hottest of takes they'll get like a minus 50. so
33:27
i think it was on this video but i don't see it but someone said
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first and they're just like no that was 20 that was on mine oh that was that was
33:35
on that was on today's tech wiki i was so funny
33:40
yeah first minus negative 29. just
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slammed so uh yeah you you can do that
33:48
it's possible um for those of you who watched um
33:52
already thanks very much shout out to portugal you'll know what i'm talking about if you watched if not you'll see
33:57
next week shout out to portugal i mentioned portugal very randomly in my
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video i'm definitely gonna watch that yeah so thank you to all of our fans in
34:05
porto in lisbon in the azores wherever you may be
34:08
in portugal good luck in the world cup
34:12
heck yeah all right okay moving on to back to uh news topics thank you atlas
34:17
rafe for posting this on the forum AMD unveils seven
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nanometer GPU at computex super cool let
34:25
me just get this stuff if you want to start i'm gonna get this stuff in twitch chat sure on the screen okay um also at
34:31
computex big surprise there right um AMD announced the first seven nanometer GPU
34:36
launching in the second half of 2018 it's a big deal because Intel has a big
34:40
deal Intel hasn't even gotten to 10 yet and AMD is already announcing hey we're
34:44
going to have a seven nanometer GPU oh well this is a GPU so to be fair
34:49
to until they make it it's a little different well um what does NVIDIA have right now
34:53
do they have are they on 10 yet uh
34:56
i admittedly haven't forgotten yeah i'm pretty i'm sure twitch has
35:00
screaming at me for that Intel gaff by the way because we're talking about gpus but that's okay
35:05
c they've been on 10 for a while oh have they okay
35:13
why am i blanking i shouldn't be yeah
35:18
i just love having dead air oh it's great
35:22
it's so great it's i mean it's um oh no no yeah 16. yeah pascal
35:26
so pascal is what 14 16 14 16 14 okay so
35:30
there you go so yes so we're they're basically having that AMD is having that
35:35
um with vega so AMD will have vega on seven nanometers inside of the new
35:39
Radeon instinct part uh they're claiming 25 or excuse me 35 percent more
35:44
performance over the previous gen 14 nanometer apart so they're so they're
35:48
having it so they're 14 nanometers i remember there was a split and i was
35:52
trying to think of what number is it split on but anyway okay 14 nanometer is
35:55
1030 1050 1050 1050 ti so the lower end
35:59
silicon is 14 and then for the higher end chips are we using 16. yeah oh but
36:04
yeah okay yeah i see yeah 16. so so there you
36:07
go so and these latest offerings are either 14 or 16 depending on what you
36:11
get AMD is going down to seven uh twice the power efficiency so which kind of
36:16
makes sense right because it's two times the density of their last gen which was
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14. so um this now means andy is ahead of
36:22
the GPU game in this one area because even volta NVIDIA's neurogen
36:26
architecture is at 12 nanometers right now
36:29
so uh but do note that there actually
36:32
isn't an industry standard way to measure transistor sizes
36:37
so um your it i think it used to mean a
36:42
little bit more than it does now so do take that number with a small
36:46
grain of salt but it's still a pretty big deal also remember that it's i
36:50
believe it's square nanometers so seven is like
36:53
considerably smaller than ten right yeah yeah it's just like how four square
36:58
inches is a lot smaller than yeah so yeah okay just a thing to remember there
37:02
you go uh someone in the twitch chat reminded
37:05
me of that so thank you to whoever that was so prepare for
37:09
high wattage power supplies being even dumber unless you have a water chiller
37:14
from an aquarium computer so yes yes of course now okay wow what is that
37:19
cacophony back there loud noises
37:22
uh so this is another really really cool piece of news in my opinion this is
37:27
posted by shreyas1 on the forum Gigabyte making
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fake RAM it's fake
37:35
except it's super cool and and you want it to be fake so i'll explain that in a
37:38
moment uh do you know about this i know about it now so apparently
37:43
they're selling their um aorus does that pronounce
37:48
RGB led memory um which is it's not surprising that sort that's sort of
37:52
their like gamer line of stuff now so it's going to have all the RGB so two of
37:57
the sticks are your run-of-the-mill eight gig
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uh ddr4 memory modules yeah but
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the other half of the bundle is two sticks of fake RAM they're made the same
38:08
aluminum housing and they have the leds that can sync up with your actual RAM
38:12
sticks but they have none of the memory bits so if you can afford to populate
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every single slot on your motherboard with actual RAM but you don't want it to
38:21
look like there's big gaps in between your RGB you can get this instead you
38:25
can save some money and have it look like they're all populated until you can
38:28
afford more actual RAM now i don't personally care at all because i've
38:34
never cared about fully populating slots i don't think it looks bad but i'm 100
38:39
certain because i know them uh that there are people that do care about
38:43
fully populating all their slots yeah and RAM is
38:46
incredibly expensive right now so the
38:49
fact that they are able to bridge that gap a little bit you can fill all the
38:52
slots but you don't have to spend ludicrous amounts of money
38:56
well there's a certain effect you get you know because when you have those slots populated if the light bars on top
39:02
are t-h-i-c-c thick enough then you will have an effect that looks like a big
39:06
block or a big brick instead of like little strips of color so yeah so i
39:10
don't mind the strips of color thing but yeah i i just understand how people like
39:14
that aesthetic and it still gets you the the sticks of RAM that actually have
39:18
memory on them in this kit that we're talking about here is eight gig dimms
39:23
each so you're getting 16 total gigs of RAM which is pretty solid yeah so so the
39:27
modules the fake modules can still communicate with the other ones they
39:30
just don't have any actual RAM on them but um so um do note if you're interested in
39:35
this um right now you have to buy it as a whole kit but Gigabyte is considering
39:40
the possibility of just selling the fake sticks separately at some point so i
39:44
think they'll do that based on can we like not
39:48
and say we did um uh so
39:53
he has no idea no uh there we go they'll
39:56
probably end up selling them individually if these kits sell well
40:01
enough yeah it makes sense um it's it's probably like a manufacturing worthiness
40:05
situation i could see it happening because i'm sure there's plenty of
40:08
people who have bought RAM they didn't need just so they could populate all
40:12
their slots so i'm sure this happened again i know
40:15
people that have done that there we go i even know people that have bought the same looking kit just lower capacity for
40:20
the second set because they're like i don't even need more RAM yeah oh man
40:25
okay and then you get into this whole like catch 22 where even if you don't
40:28
need more like oh let me just buy like a one gig stick of this thing but it's
40:32
higher end RAM that has the RGB so you can't so yeah yeah um so this one moving
40:40
on this was posted by sc2 mitch on the forum just like every week dude thank
40:44
you very much for posting uh the the source of this article is
40:48
motherboard.vice.com as many of you have probably heard
40:53
github is being purchased by microsoft
40:56
now github and git lab are different things i'm just putting that out here
41:00
for people that may not know uh so get for the for the context of this story
41:05
git lab is not being purchased by microsoft github is being purchased by
41:08
microsoft uh this 13 000 projects ditched github for gitlab monday morning
41:13
thing is a little out of date the current number that we have is i believe
41:18
150 000 of them have ditched github for
41:23
get lab um now more projects have bailed
41:27
off of github in that time uh these are just the ones that have gone to get Labs
41:32
specifically um there are other solutions but that that's the majority
41:37
of the movers have done that now
41:40
to put to rest a little bit of the freak
41:44
out from the information that i've been able
41:48
to see online and some of the stuff that's in this exact article it seems
41:52
like most people are bailing because they are making like xbox emulators well
41:59
here's more like things that microsoft spec
42:02
that are going against microsoft specifically well there's okay obviously
42:06
something like an emulator you can see the problems there with like ip and
42:09
copyright infringement but but okay so just
42:13
uh one example i can think of that has some pretty recent relevance um if you
42:17
go on youtube shameless plug for techwiki we did a recent tech quick
42:20
episode on dns link leaks and how they can undermine your privacy and how they
42:25
can expose your browsing history even if you're using a vpn so let's say you're
42:29
using a vpn that has um a dns leak
42:33
protection feature on it yeah um so there is a
42:37
feature in Windows 8 and in Windows 10. um it has a really long acronym i can't
42:42
exactly remember what it is right um s-m-h-n-r i think is what it's called
42:46
but it is a feature and there's a reason i'm doing the quotation fingers that can
42:50
apparently even override dns leak protection and compromise your privacy
42:55
yeah um so there was someone on github that wrote a patch for openvpn
43:00
uh where you could just download it and it would like take care of that for you
43:05
would microsoft consider something like that undermining their own software if
43:09
they don't want people doing that you know because i mean copyright infringement's one thing that's super
43:12
obvious but what if it's like there's an actual problem
43:16
with a microsoft product like Windows
43:19
that someone is in good faith trying to fix for people
43:23
and microsoft just says no and people wouldn't know where to
43:27
look because so many people just kind of automatically go to github i think the
43:30
stuff is going to be on there so yeah it's going to be interesting and also i
43:34
forgot to post the youtube announcement so rip um and there's like not even that
43:38
much time left in the show but i just published it so people will be able to see watch the last seven minutes or
43:43
however long however long we have i don't know so uh anyways it's it's
43:48
it's yeah people are even thinking projects that
43:53
could easily be used to harm others like
43:56
deep fakes might be a problem and a lot of those types of projects have bailed
44:00
already okay which sucks because deep fakes can also be
44:04
used to not hurt people yeah just like a power drill yeah
44:10
pretty much so like we'll have to see how microsoft deals with this
44:15
um trying to connect you are offline oh
44:18
great uh but but yeah i just
44:22
i don't think it's going to be as nuclear as people think i suspect
44:26
microsoft isn't going to do a ton different with it than was already being
44:30
done with github hopefully everything doesn't become
44:35
weird colored squares because i really have oh good lord you really have not
44:40
enjoyed ui for a long time it kind of depends i mean i think there were fears about that
44:45
with something like uwp for example uh but at the same time you know the
44:50
desktop experience on Windows 10 is still like largely
44:54
open in whatever sense you want garbage
44:58
garbage i hate the desktop experience on Windows 10. sorry oh oh it's a personal
45:02
preference no i'm not talking about ui ui is different than whether the
45:06
platform is open or closed okay yeah yeah yeah yeah ui is a totally different
45:10
story like you can hate the ui all you want to but um that is a preference
45:14
thing i know some people are gonna screech i just i don't person do you
45:18
want to do um this thing here
45:24
or this thing is better either one sure i
45:28
don't know a ton of but it is cool i don't know a ton about it but let's
45:31
let's dive into it see what we can get so thank you
45:34
club 3d qub 3d
45:38
cute oh i think it's huge of course it's just a very tortured
45:42
spelling of cube i failed that one it is cubed for
45:47
suresies all right steak forbes is the
45:50
source article here and there's been so once it loads my internet is uh not the
45:55
happiest at the moment uh but there's been some leaks of the pixel 3. now one
46:00
interesting thing here is that there's going to be three
46:04
phones there's going to be the standard normal pixel there's going to be the pixel xl
46:08
those are already expected now there's going to be a
46:12
mid-range phone and they don't mean size they don't mean between the normal size
46:16
pixels they're talking like power yeah they mean power and price and stuff like
46:20
that what is going on i don't care about your quote of the day load the web page
46:24
please it's hard to fly without ruffling a few feathers i'm trying to ruffle your
46:29
feathers forbes let me fly please hello
46:32
okay oh my goodness awesome all right
46:36
well the cool part is that there's three phones there's the affordable pixel 3 uh
46:42
which is the interesting one in this lineup not not because the other ones
46:45
aren't interesting but because it's new um so the affordable pixel 3 which is
46:50
what we're going to call instead of mid-range just so we don't get confused by the sizing things it is likely going
46:55
to be a game changer for mid-range smartphone photography and that kind of
46:59
makes sense because a lot of the awesomeness of the pixel camera is in
47:03
the software then they can put that software on the
47:07
cheap phone which is really cool the 3xl is going to
47:11
have a notch however you feel about this yeah that's happening
47:15
so i'm going to i'm all
47:19
we'll have to see but i'm almost certainly going to be getting a pixel 3. okay um i currently still have my pixel
47:24
1 xl and i like this phone a lot but it's
47:28
starting to show the signs of being tired the battery's starting to kind of yeah
47:34
and there's like it started yeah you can tell i can't i can't anymore
47:38
it's it's still a very good phone if i wasn't a ridiculous power user of my
47:42
phone i wouldn't care that much but i am a absolute ridiculous power user oh
47:47
we have a power user oh yeah boy um i'm always on this thing and i do a
47:52
lot of stuff on it so i'm stoked and i will probably get the xl okay because i
47:56
have large hands i can hide my whole phone um
48:02
so oh like a power user with his large hands yeah dude so the the small phones
48:06
are just a little too small yeah no not not quite this this is a 6p
48:11
so yeah they're pretty simple yeah okay um
48:15
so i want the xl that means i have to do with the notch traditionally i haven't
48:18
really liked notches but it might work
48:21
if the notch is small enough which i can't see because forbes won't load
48:25
uh i saw some i saw some allegedly leaked images of the thing it does look
48:30
a fair bit smaller than the iphone 10
48:34
the notch does which makes sense right because on Android how it does
48:38
notifications it fills them in from the sides right but on
48:41
iphone that doesn't happen the all your notifications are just in that little
48:45
tray so so if it is just a fairly small one
48:49
that's cool i'm down it also has front-facing speakers which
48:53
i can't show you because it won't load by the way i don't think this is
48:56
forbes's fault just in case anyone in the audience is like what the heck i was
49:00
making jokes about not being able to fly because of the forbes thing whatever i
49:03
think our internet's being super weird uh
49:07
because i had this problem earlier but yeah okay so i i don't know that's super
49:11
cool i can't show you what the small one looks like i can't show you what the
49:14
mid-range one looks like uh it apparently the the the mid-range
49:20
phone is me based on qualcomm's new snapdragon 710 chipset which promises
49:25
performance close to 2017's flagship snapdragon 835
49:30
um
49:33
yeah i i think that would be cool because one big issue that people had
49:37
with pixel phones when they started being called pixel was that they were a lot more expensive than people wanted so
49:42
being able to give a more affordable option is cool definitely
49:46
maybe it'll stick maybe it'll be it'll go the way the iphone 5c who knows yeah
49:51
yeah australian gamers are being blamed for
49:56
slow internet
50:00
wow okay apparently this was slightly taken out of context uh this is from
50:05
abc.net.au uh maybe this will load
50:12
maybe not i'm gonna post this in twitch chat and if you are watching on
50:18
youtube there are either um timestamps posted in the description
50:23
of this video or i have noticed many wonderful people also post their own
50:28
custom timestamps below the video in the comments
50:32
wow this looks like it's not properly loading but it's sort of working so
50:36
let's show that screen why not i really like how the image they used for this
50:41
story is a screen cap from big bang like what
50:45
they don't what the heck that is them what are they doing is this like a retro
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edition i don't watch this show
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i don't know it's always been kind of weird to me but
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anyways moving on uh believe it or not some of the biggest
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online games use very little data when you're playing compared to streaming hd
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video or even high fidelity audio so people are slamming back at whoever the
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heck said this i don't care it doesn't matter uh because he's like gamers
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but apparently the within the context that he was saying it
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uh so someone named moro i don't know said it's gamers
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predominantly on fixed wireless apparently what he meant is it's that
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he's type casting gamers not saying that
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games are right because later on he said that the people who game are also
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powerful they they tend to like consume more data just across the board whether
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it's video or whether it's they're watching twitch streams they're watching youtube they're they're streaming audio
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while they play their game they're these are power users of the internet because
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people asked uh he he originally said
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extreme users and then he was asked to clarify on that so he said it's gamers
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predominantly on fixed wireless but i don't think he meant it is video games
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that are the problem i think he was saying like matt's gamers which i also
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think is not necessarily true because out of all the people that i know that
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watch ludicrous amounts of streaming video it's not necessarily gamers no i
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mean you have you have people that think oh like video games are stupid but
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they'll sit there and they'll binge netflix like eight hours at a time and that takes more bandwidth so yeah it's
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not that's not the best look for him at least to people coming home
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cracking a bottle of wine yeah and chugging it while binging multiple
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seasons at a time of your favorite show of yeah whatever people who don't game watch so
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i don't i'm not very up on this hip alcoholic terminology so sorry if i said
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that wrong but yes like wine yeah yeah they didn't call it wine anymore i don't
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know man no i said crack in a bottle of wine and then i realized you don't do that you you uncork it you do the thing
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and then you crack a bottle of beer i'm a hip man
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i'm i'm in with the the boys now it's time for you to do the
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macarena i'm hip i'm with it
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but yeah i i don't know i i think it's just something taken out of context i
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don't think it's actually what people are freaking out about people just like screaming i think the guy is just saying
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it's power users it's people that use the internet a lot it's it's this stuff
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um if he actually thinks it's video games he now for sure knows that it's
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not because everyone on the planet has told him you're wrong um so i think he
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gets it now and we can probably hopefully move on but i thought it was
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an interesting story anyways and something to bring up australia's internet is actually garbage um and one
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thing that i i am very aggressively against is that apparently they've been
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considering throttling back data consumption of extreme users during peak
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periods that's ridiculous australia just fix your freaking internet
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it's not that hard everyone else has seemed to figure this out
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um might be a cost issue they are in an unfortunate place for undersea cables
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figure it out i don't know what else to say
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australia's internet has been garbage for a very long time working at
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Floatplane it's super expensive to get bandwidth there
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i'm trying to serve people on australia videos and it's hard it's got to be a
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cost issue because of me i mean how many how many times we have people coming on
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the forum saying oh like this GPU costs almost
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twice as much in australia because reasons so i imagine it might be similar
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here i just australia's internet is just garbage i know quite a few people from
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australia and it's it's really really expensive and it's
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really really bad um and it's a shame because i i don't think it needs to be i
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understand that there is definitely cost implications but there are countries not
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that far away um that have really much better really
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bad they're the stadium nachos of the internet yeah okay yeah australia yeah
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you have the stadium nachos of internet i like that analogy and you know what
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i'll understand like people like that fake cheese sauce it tastes like plastic
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a lot of people like that stuff it's disgusting i even bothered yeah so bad
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no just like order a hot dog or something like just or do what i did and
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smuggle in four spicy chickens from wendy's into a movie
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that's a great idea and trade them for other things
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bartering i hope no one's spicy i hope no one from cinderplex is watching this
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don't let me back into a movie boy i get it done also organic carbon module
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modules organic carbon molecules found on mars
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nasa's mars rover curiosity has identified a variety of organic
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molecules the carbon-based building blocks of life as we know it in 3.5
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billion year-old rocks on mars this does not give us any evidence of life
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necessarily but there's a possibility that the organics are a form of an
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ancient life source of some kind we just don't know another finding that methane
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concentrations in mars atmosphere cycle seasonally the discovery suggests that
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the gas is seeping out from underground reservoirs it is possible
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that some of the methane was produced by organisms as it is here on earth be very
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careful that everything in his in this has possible
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um written all over it it's not not necessarily guaranteed they did find
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organic carbon molecules and methane concentrations in our mars
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atmosphere do cycle around seasonally we got that the rest of it is all
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hypotheticals and possible i wonder exactly what organics they found because
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um obviously you know just because it has a carbon atom and it doesn't mean it
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you know came from life you know but a lot of people don't know that which is
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why we got a gotta really qualify yeah possible like methane is an extremely
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simple molecule like a forum without life around very easily so yeah
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i was trying to look through the story to see if there were any more deets but it didn't say don't think too many um
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but but yeah i think that's honestly about it the rest of the stuff in the
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dock is not crazy interesting there's the amazon
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thing we can go over that real quick but oh it doesn't have anything to do with tech so i don't really know why i kind
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of it does i think it does the fact that they said that
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well it's that that is amazon and i yeah it's a store like it's it's an i
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i don't know why we always end up talking about amazon the the fact that it was online made it a federal crime
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okay but online shopping yeah is old as
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heck and amazon is just like taking over the whole planet
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that's like they're like political level instead of like basically tech news but
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whatever we'll talk about it amazon return policy abusers were sentenced to
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nearly six years in prison basically they bought a whack ton of gopros and
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other stuff so for two years the finance
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not sure what that means i'm assuming that's their name yeah they're a they're
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a married couple yeah okay they ordered over 2 700 electronic items from amazon
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including gopro digital cameras xboxes smart watches tablets laptops and then
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they reported them as damaged and that somehow didn't get flagged
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automatically they used a lot of like shell accounts and stuff so they did it
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from like a bunch of different accounts to try to avoid detection good job vpns
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i'm assuming uh once amazon replaced the products they would sell them to a third
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person denial glumak i probably is that your
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typo i don't know it does assuming it doesn't even matter
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daniel glumak but currently it's d-a-n-i-j-e-l
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which is a pretty cool name um
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that's if that is i'm sure it's just daniel but if that is his name that name
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is sick sometimes steal that as a screening i should get a dog and name it
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don't uh in all aaron and leah
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finan are said to have made approximately 750 thousand dollars
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running the scam while blue mac made approximately 500 000
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so um the the couple they got nearly six
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years each uh the accomplice got uh two years 24 months um
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so i thought this was interesting because just from from a legal
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perspective legal corner with john real quick real quick here they um
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they were prosecuted federally okay because it was done across state lines
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and the feds are pretty serious about like winning cases against people like
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if like like i think the feds have like an over 90 conviction rate when they
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bring charges against people and if you go to federal prison i think the rule is
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you have to serve 85 percent of your sentence before you're eligible for parole so they're not getting out for a
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little while okay yeah so apparently this wasn't the only thing that happened
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i again i don't know why amazon means that we're talking about it but the
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amazon fraud wasn't the only problem uh they also bounced checks they rented
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cars and failed to pay for them they sold other stolen high-end goods yeah
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and they withheld rent all of which are actions that were taken into account
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during the sentencing none of which mean that it makes sense being on the
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lan show on that note i just realized i'm responsible for having this on here
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i'm sorry i just don't i just i just don't now i feel bad anyways thanks for
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watching we'll see you next time
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i think it's time for a morale meeting next week like we need to have a company-wide
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dialogue on how we like treat the contributions of our fellow employees no
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i think it's high time for this i'm sorry
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i just we always talk about amazon stuff and sometimes they do tech related
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things but not always thank you very much squarespace alexa
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thank you for see like that makes sense thank you very much ltx so us for
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sponsoring the show and thank you very much freshbooks response freshbox
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i just okay so my i just it's not always tech stuff
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when they make the stores where you can just walk in and walk out and you just get your stuff like that's cool that's
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technical yeah i did a tech week on amazon go it was good yeah i thought it was good
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they do have a lot of tech news but it's not just automatically
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i don't know anyways i'm sorry john bye everyone
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i'll see you next time