The WAN Show - $385,000 Internet Connection & eSports Doping Policies - August 14, 2015
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
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we're live yes I think we're live all right guys welcome to the W show I'm
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going to go ahead and I'm going to turn my what are you doing what are you doing
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I I am I have my voice in my ear day
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going so I'm being confused good um yes
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and in so some of you may have noticed that last week when I had Harry Potter
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as my co-host the show managed to actually stay on topic and uh some of
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you wish for that Trend to continue so I'm going to do my utmost to not let him
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completely derail this show yeah we're
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just going to bring Harry Potter back permanently so we got a break a bunch of
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great topics for you guys uh HTC's value has plummeted so much in the last four
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years that they are now effectively valueless uh more on that at 11 uh
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alphabet a company called alphabet now owns Google not just owns like pwned
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their base but like owns like they
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belong to them uh also some poor farmer
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was quoted yes I see Harry thank
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you you can touch me with your Harry something else but not that one um some
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farmer was quoted hundreds of thousands of dollars for an internet connection
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and Spotify oh we've got a lot of great topics today actually Spotify rumored to
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be ending their free music streaming and
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do you want to do the last one of them certain swed high
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schools are adding three hours of Esports classes a
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Weak video game high school is real is this going to go I think it
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worked oh this
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brandom I don't know it is oh crap sorry
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that thing uh sponsors today the squar
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space yeah Des space did you just say
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desk space best space best space yeah
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best space Also o that's a new one
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TunnelBear start browsing privately today at tunnel bear.com
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LTT okay now I'm going to do a thing I'm going to put that back okay before we
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navigate away from it and then the intro
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will start playing instead of having the ad spot on top of it when I switch the
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scene how much do you want to Bettis is going to break no no it shouldn't break
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I have the intro stored locally on my machine now yeah see also this is the
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latest xplit so we were still running a version of xplit that must have been
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like a year old on the stream computer in the old office just because like and
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and it was like kind of like broken like that Windows install itself is just
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broken oh yeah so that machine would just shut off and like we had our
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regularly occurring blue screens thanks to our black magic capture cards and
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like all this stuff was broken about it so we actually what we needed to do was
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uninstall and reinstall in order to get the upgrade to work and we just never
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did it so I yeah we're actually running a proper version of xit a long time too
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uh which was kind of sad which is kind of the world's most pathetic thing but
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isn't that like okay everyone has like that computer that probably only works
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cuz they know it's like how to make it
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happy if you unplug the mouse and then replug it into a different port then
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then it'll turn on 6% of the time every week you have to go in and
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like tell it to Reign the CPU fan header or whatever and that's the computer that
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uh you know we hosted our live broadcast on because we're apparently freaking
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Geniuses we never actually claimed to be Geniuses lonus Media Group takes uh that
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makes no claims as to uh why we why we are geniuses uh Luke tell lonus
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to three asterisks up we want to hear
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you he ruined the last WAN Show now hold on a second this is a discussion topic
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what curse word is
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that tell lus to blank
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up I wonder if it just changes all of them to three Aster cuz if not that's
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really weird tell L because I'm just trying to think FW cuz the FW is a
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pretty versatile word doesn't work there
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you failed yep so we got the SH word n
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it's very close to shut up so maybe is that a new slang like is that what we
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should should we start this it's like you
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know you know what son sorry letters oh yeah it's not even
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three letters yeah ass
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up so I need to do the rest of the wedge
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like yeah it's kind of there you go
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there you go don't fall good yeah well
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that's kind of your crotch well this chair does spin go we do have these
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great Mach comic chairs for the new office here I'll move you more yeah
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thank you there you go yeah hold on I
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need to get a bit higher it's falling
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oh my God okay all right so we still
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don't know what s word that is yeah we are absolutely no
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closer what happens okay if I do this
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what are we supposed to be talking about I have let you derail the show already
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that was a plant that was that was a
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100% you that was an ALT account from
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you bu bull yeah yeah
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bullshut sorry oh come on that was pretty good
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that was not bad I like that one okay
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you [ __ ] okay so okay go ahead go
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ahead go new company alphabet now owns Google but it's not it's super serial oh
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wow that was actually pretty good I am on today I am on today my friends so
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actually not super serious while it might be super serial a lot of people
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freaked out when they read this oh my God I can't believe a company like Google could be acquired and it's like
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oh they were acquired by themselves yeah so this is just a new parent company
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that they created um to help kind of sub
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a whole bunch of different companies probably for tax reasons to be completely honest yeah or for the
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appearances to shareholders reasons um so what they've effectively done is
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they've Google is the the internet stuff brand so your YouTubes and your Google
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chromes and your uh your Google Maps and
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your Hangouts um is all going to be is
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all going to be under that brand whereas alphabet is also going to run sort of
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other Bizarro land stuff like xlabs yeah
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um and I actually don't even know what Calico life extension project is do you
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even know what that is I've heard of that okay Calico life extension his
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mission is to harness Advanced Technologies to increase our
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understanding of the biology that controls so so basically okay oh okay
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that's yeah life extension so fairly fairly straightforward you know you know
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what's really funny about the the advancements that are being made in that
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right now so both Singularity and
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reversing the aging process are
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potentially going to happen in the next like 100 to 200 years we were that
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close we were that freaking close you and me we're just going to grow old and
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die and that's it that's it but like our
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generation's kids I know you're not plan problem with that yeah it feels like it
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kind of sucks cuz you know like it but
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on the other hand I mean there's a lot of issues with people living forever
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that are not easily resolvable and I think like this this is just the amount
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of them not just the amount of them cuz
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that's actually a pretty big problem but okay amount of them I I actually think
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particularly at the beginning the amount excuse me the
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amount of people living forever will almost be a nonissue at the beginning
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yeah because it's going to be so expensive that it's going to be a whole
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other issue of only the rich and Powerful being able to so so it's one
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thing if the rich and Powerful can super rich people live forever and poor people
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die just exactly o if if that is not
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like and if it's not a rat race
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now it's like nowadays like if you're
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rich you're like yeah Freedom 55 or whatever you retire Young no that's a
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whole other thing so now it's like climb over the backs of your fellow human
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beings are you able to make enough money so that you can not die instead of are
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you able to make enough money so that you can retire and then if you're not
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going to die well do you have to work forever then I I guess for like cuz you
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can bet and I mean this is some tin foil hat stuff so if you're not into tin foil
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hat peace see you later but can you
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imagine the first life uh life extender solution being um
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you know a shot that you take once and then your life is extended forever uh no
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no it's going to be a pill that you buy and you take every day and even if they
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had the other solution more hardcore than that there's no no way that anyone
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is going to give you the the shot in the ARM that reverses the aging process of
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your C and and there's going to be a whole bunch of other issues with living
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together or living together with living together we we won't have we we'll work
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hard at it stay together for the kids um with living forever like your teeth are
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not going to reverse their aging process so you're going to be like this weird
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reconstructed creature in certain ways
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and I'd be flored if they figure out how to reverse the aging process of
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everything so your eyesight you're going to have like this super like old man
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eyesight I mean with that said they've got those new contacts coming hearing
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when they're working on stem cells and stuff what if they can grow you a new
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body and you just brain transform well that's a whole that's that's been
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tackled like that's some that's some crazy stuff like I forget what there's
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like some book and I think it's a movie or something dog or something no the the
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um the parents have like a terminally ill kid like a degenerative disease kid
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and then they have another kid that's basically like spare parts or something
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along those lines or whatever like like that's that's some crazy Next Level
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stuff yes but I don't I don't mean like birthing a new child than using them as
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spare parts which we've seen in I think more than one movie that's been done um
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I'm talking about like no brain grow a
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body in a lab stem cell style yeah but see that becomes a very
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tricky question and like you religious arguments aside the conversation about
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what makes something a human is an incredibly complicated one I thought
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someone just called this autism the show and I was like what what is it that
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we're talking about that made you say something so like that anyway um so so
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sorry sorry back back on topic what makes something a human is it a body is
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it a is it a soul do we have a soul these are all questions that we're not
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going to get into we not that we're not going to be able to answer because we
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don't actually have an answer yet if you can transfer a Consciousness you know if
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you if you believe in a soul then have you also transferred the soul did the
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soul die is it now an Abomination who
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knows so would you want to live forever
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I don't know I think it depends I don't
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know I I feel like I would because I'm constantly interested in things and I'd
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be like o technology moved on and changed now this is another really
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interesting way of looking at it is it worth it to live forever if everyone
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around you dies and what if what if you
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were Rich enough to keep yourself alive but not but not let's say let's say you
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and your wife had to decide who can afford the like uber treatment I don't
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know if I could claim that for myself so that's that's exactly knowing
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how I do things I'd probably pass it so then let's let's talk well then but what
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if what if the other like cuz that I mean you see all these what the other person wants to pass it right so what
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what if what if old you know how old people the most epic game of rock paper
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scissors rock paper scissors death you'd
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win oh my God so like would you want to leave
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behind all your brothers and sisters right you know what I mean yeah and if
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you had kids like like like get this would you prefer to pass it down to your
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kids and then if like like what if there was like your family could only afford
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like one Fortune what if you could could only keep one person alive and and
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remember no anti-aging treat no I'm not married he was saying conceptually IM
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yeah no anti-aging treatment is going to you know prevent you from smashing your
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head open on a rock if you're if you're climbing it so there's no guarantee that
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it's even going to work anyway this isn't uh what's that awesome movie Death
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Becomes hurt we need we need like Windows Server automatic nightly backup
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for brains I I I suspect it would happen
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eventually and you just download into a new into a new body there's got to be a
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way like even if you can't 100% it if it
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could get extremely
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close okay here's a tough one for you
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person no if they could okay well no I know but tell me this then if your
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hypothetical wife if your hypothetical wife was downloaded to a server
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somewhere yeah she dies yeah and she
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gets Rebooted are you married
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still uh I think you would have to
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choose that legally before before so I
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think you'd have to like sign a thing being like yes or no this is going to be
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a whole new level of prenup kids cuz when when people when when people are
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potentially married till death do us
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part hold on a second you get married for like thousands of years so it will
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become cheaper to kill your spouse and
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reboot them than to
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divorce and reboot them oh my god oh man
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like hunt this isn't working Let's do let's suicide packed reformat Our
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Lives okay do you still have your job
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right I guess that would have to probably be in your uh employment if you
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die if you died would I even
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know like show I be like you shave and you're bald cuz like you don't have your
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hair yet right cuz it has to die oh man
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it's like why' you shave your head I don't know Lon and you're like
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what minor changes it's like you you come in and
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you're like you're like uh uh you know like you know never never
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mind you're like a bottom guy all of a sudden
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Oh I thought you meant that differently I get
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it never mind I didn't get it at
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first okay so uh one tricky thing sorry
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back on topic about the whole Google uh
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breaking itself apart into sub companies under alphabet is that um they will
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still go by the stock tickers of g o o g
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l and g o o g so they're still going to trade under their old name um
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and yeah I guess there's really not that
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much to say I know I say that a lot but like this is really not that interesting
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news and the internet exploded about it yeah there there also their actual
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landing page abcxyz received over 1.9 million views
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after the announcement and the funny thing is alphabet.com which Google
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actually doesn't own but and and is it
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wouldn't be an insignificant thing for Google to try to acquire since BMW sort
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of another Global brand uh owns it it's actually their like business
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oriented like corporate customer vehicle
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Supply you know Fleet Management leasing
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thing um so BMW owns alphabet.com and
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they are apparently looking into trademark implications but um don't
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intend to to take legal action against
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Google so there go unless they probably need to in order to keep their stuff uh
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this was posted by blade of grass on the Forum did you ever post the link in the
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chat no I did not I can do now so go ahead and drop that in there the next
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article is Tesla is burning cash this is
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not exactly uh this is not exactly
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groundbreaking either it costs a metric butt ton of money to develop cars just
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to ask anyone who makes cars and Tesla is uh basically doing it without the
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sales to support what they're trying to do over here I mean they they're losing
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money per car yes not yeah not not only
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do they only have like so let's see how many Model S's the one that matters we
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can sell um they're actually losing somewhere in the neighborhood of $4,000
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to about $15,000 per car depending on how you
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crunch if numers you look at Elon musk's
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business history this is super not surprising when PayPal first started he
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was paying people to open accounts he would put real money in your account
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when you opened one there's a lot of sites that'll be like you get credit on
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the site when you open an account no he was putting cash money that you cash
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dollar elsewhere that he would not get credit for when you opened an account
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and it was not small I don't remember how much it was but it was like you
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could go buy something probably with the amount of money that you would put in
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your account so he's he's buying market
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share yep effectively and yeah it's
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still expensive and that's but that's kind of life because they cost a lot of
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money to make so um this this is great
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so they've actually burned through uh they
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$359 million in cash last
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quarter wow and this combined with the
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production Target cuts for 2016 uh doesn't bode that well for their 500,000
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car production Target by 2020 so they have a mere 1.15 billion on hand so
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enough to run for another 34s at the rate they're going this is down from
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2.67 billion one year ago so yeah the
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rate at which they're burning through it is pretty consistent and not going to
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last them much longer and then the article from rooters actually estimated
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that a new car can cost 1 billion or
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more to engineer and bring to Market so
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that reduction in cash looks like development on well we know they're
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working on other cars they're working on the model X and the model 3 EXC me uh oh
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I I meant to say e excuse me three but whatever uh the model three so musk says
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there might be some value in raising Capital as they move into 2016 where
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they are expecting to increase their spending uh due to the model 3 and the
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gigafactory so um yeah we'll see how
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this whole thing plays out I mean realistically honestly I think they're
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fine realistically if Tesla's straight
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up like yep we're doing another round of funding I don't think there will be any
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shortage of backers to try and get in on this one they'll be fine and they they
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will be fine but they might have to do another round of funding I mean it's
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it's really interesting to see why it is then that the incumbent automakers
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aren't just going head-to-head with Tesla it's like well why aren't they
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just matching Tesla's investment into electric cars well because even if
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you're BMW or Audi sold a lot of money it is yeah and
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unlike a fledgling company I mean Tesla is still a really young company unlike a
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fledgling company an established company with established shareholders that
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expect to get their established benefits from being
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shareholders you're going to have to sell the idea of just spending money
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hand over fist on an unproven although I
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think we're pretty close to it being a foregone conclusion that electric cars
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are going to be a thing but on an unproven Market where you don't have
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well here's the last 50 years of sales
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and Market data the car the Auto industry doesn't move that fast it
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really doesn't it's kind of sad uh this was posted by snow comet on the Forum
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I'm going to fire up lenovo.com where we are going to learn
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about actually a pretty cool uh pretty
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cool little release you want to handle this puppy I have read zero of these
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topics oh oh that's right you were working on the ultimaker ultimaker 2
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thing filming two videos well okay and
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getting new internet you know what yeah super
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stoked right you have new internet at your house now right oh yes also have
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internet at my house that's a pretty important part of that sentence I
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haven't had internet for a while and then they were supposed to come today and they came at one of the least
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opportune times uh it would have been worse if they came during W show that is
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true if you were just like peace I need to go get internet I'd be like yeah I
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get it because if I didn't have internet at my house I would basically be living
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at the office same as you that was pretty good timing because honestly even
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if I had internet I wasn't going to be leaving I needed to get that print
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working so and like I wasn't on the computer using the internet I was
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working on the like my feet hurt it's on a standing desk and I was working on it
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for so long I'm looking forward to watching that review because I have
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spent almost no time with the ultimaker I like legit don't want anyone else
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printing off of it people can make models people can find whatever models
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they want and then I'll do the printing part there's some there's some
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trickiness there's some and like the I think it was five or six I don't
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remember five to six and a half hours last night where I was just troubleshooting wow straight so I
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learned a lot about the printer I heard from the twitch chat that they basically
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walked you through it morph more morph Mory he helped a lot
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okay yeah all right well maybe that's what people were saying so Lenovo ushers
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in a new era of mobile workstation power
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and performance with the ThinkPad p50
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and p70 so they're not the first ones to
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try and build a mobile workstation at all no like at all but
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but these ones are definitely the most powerful and badass looking ones that
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we've ever seen so the p70 is the 17in model the p50 is the 15in model and the
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p70 is loaded up with 64 gigs of ECC
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ddr4 memory can handle up to a terabyte of SSD storage over PCI Express and up
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to four storage devices it also comes
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with two Thunderbolt 3 ports so
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Thunderbolt 3 is 40 gbit per second if I
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recall correctly and uh sorry 5
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Gigabyte yeah thereabouts and is USB-C
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is a USBC connector or something along those lines I actually haven't looked
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into it enough yeah it's through a USB 3 Type C connector so well okay that's one
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thing that doesn't can you not thank you that's one thing that I wish I could
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adjust or maybe I can and I haven't yet uh but the the snapping aggressiveness
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in the latest versions of xplit it's nice to be able to move things around
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freely but um I wish it would snap a little bit more decisively so there you
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go that's what the connector looks like this is on Thunderbolt technology.net uh
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this is great more speed more pixels more power more protocols DisplayPort
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PCIe Thunderbolt and usb3 super speed it can also deliver up to 100 wats of power
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and two 4K displays so epic so that is
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some pretty ba technology um so it'll come with that
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and what else is there to really say about it uh Zeon CPU you're going to
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need that for that ECC memory support and then they also feature Quadro gpus
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but I don't see exact models and these
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aren't going to be available until Q4 2015 although I have already reached out
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to Lenovo and we are already confirmed to be getting a review sample nice so we
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can check it out in person and let you guys know what's up because let's face
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it there's a lot of powerful laptops out there but there's a difference between a
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workstation and just any old laptop or
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notebook this is a great top of discussion did you know that there is a
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difference between a laptop and a
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notebook no they are not the same thing I didn't know that yep the amount of
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crap that I've gotten about this from one of our particular Partners every
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time I say the wrong one um is significant is it what's the difference
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so the the irony is that neither of them
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is intended to run in your lap that was done away with a very long time ago when
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heat existed um okay a
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laptop is larger and bulkier okay I
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expected that but smaller than a desktop replacement okay okay a notebook is
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smaller but not an Ultra
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Book and I was
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like okay that's kind of what I expected I was going to say notebook is going to
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have to be a smaller one but like so this is kind of a notebook because of
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its size but I think in terms of its
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power it would be more of a
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laptop and then this this is a notebook that's an Ultra Book because sorry one
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the definition of Ultra Book is a little flexible depending on whether it is a
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two and one which used to be called a convertible so this one has like a
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tablet mode so yeah there you go if you
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guys didn't know that then you learned a completely useless fact
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today um as ble is so fond of doing
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speaking of burkel oh man he has outdone
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himself on the car painting video uh
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that's over on vessel right now and it's
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going to be coming to YouTube sometime next week but if you guys have a vessel
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membership a surprising number of our viewers actually don't know that channel
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super fun is also over on vessel it's
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not just lineus Tech tips Techquickie and Channel Super Fun are both there but
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this is something else this car painting
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video uh I think I'm about to show an ad so I'll just uh put that away for now so
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you guys don't have to listen to that and then I'll go ahead and oh wow there
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was no ad worst intro we have ever done many
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episodes ago yeah so this is where the
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here basically I'll I'll I'll I'll give you guys a sneak peek at just exactly
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what is going down that is me that is me
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in my old uh student Works painting shirt from my house painting days so uh
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yes you will witness that and many other things in the Channel Super Fun car
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painting episode so that is that is some good stuff right there uh let's move on
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Intel this was posted by Jesper
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0101 996 and Intel says the shortages of
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Broadwell and Skylake CPUs will be going
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away so if you've been wondering about you know where exactly you can get you
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know a uh 5775c for example that's the Broadwell
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chip or 6700k that's the Skylake core i7
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then Supply is expected to improve soon
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and we should see more of everything as Q3 progresses so Q3 is uh August
29:22
September October no July August
29:26
September yes that is Q3 so uh throughout the the rest of uh whatever
29:32
is going on right now all right this is a pretty good oh this was originally
29:35
posted on techreport tocom I'll go ahead and uh pull that puppy up there and then
29:40
I don't know if I ever actually posted this in the twitch chat this is why this
29:44
show is hard to run by myself this is why I have trouble with what the devil
29:49
is going on here so this is apparently
29:52
like a happy new office
29:56
gift five pizzas they they know how many
29:59
they know enough to know where we are but they don't know enough to know how
30:02
many people work here so there's there's pizzas specifically for specific people
30:07
so this is for Nick and Justin okay yeah
30:11
so there you go here come take this
30:14
we're apparently doing Pizza distribution okay I I'll I'll I'll read
30:18
off what it is so this is pizza 5 for Nick and Justin yeah you guys are five
30:22
Get Wrecked bro it's from ixie hazy nips and map it is
30:28
basically as pepperoni bacon jalapenos and go chick you yes sweet this one is
30:34
from the same people not surprising this one is for Taran and John they got
30:38
wrecked what' they get I knew someone was going to get pranked and it was
30:41
Taran and John okay so the cheese is mozzarella and the toppings are
30:46
pineapple anchovies oysters and sour
30:49
cream so that's why they ordered five pizzas so that some of them could be
30:54
horrible so this one is ours you can
30:58
read that one off okay what do we got here pepperoni green peppers jalapenos
31:03
bacon and grilled chicken with mozzarella and cheddar cheese that is a
31:09
wicked sounding Pizza the boss is straight up not sharing that one I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get a
31:13
pizza l oh no okay that sucks that's for
31:17
that one's pretty rocking I don't okay so we got this is for Dennis and burkel
31:21
green peppers red peppers jalapenos hot banana peppers spicy pepperoni and spicy
31:25
Italian sausage Burkle went home early so I guess Den is going to have to eat
31:28
this one all by his Lonesome and the last one uh this is for Brandon and Ed
31:35
and this is pretty plain Jane mozzarella cheese pepperoni bacon and jalapeno so
31:39
guys get in here and uh claim your
31:43
pizzas
31:48
I'll yeah poor John and Taran guys so all right so here's a
31:54
pretty great topic this was posted by jper 10199
31:58
on the Forum the original article here is from RS Technica I'm going to go
32:02
ahead and pull it up yeah get get out of here go away the door closes itself
32:08
automatically you want fiber internet that'll be
32:13
383,000
32:16
$500 um I love how I love how isps seem to
32:23
have this thing where it's like oh you want us like like companies like
32:27
McDonald's if you want a McDonald's in your town you can probably email them or
32:30
something and they'll probably come build the store if you have enough people they get enough requests and they
32:35
do you know like a a business case
32:38
analysis and can I say thanks to ni M
32:43
and I no you can't I covered the mic damn that was Ed he says
32:47
thanks um so yeah they'll do like you
32:51
know like a like a business case and proposal and if they can find a
32:55
franchise owner right they might have different business models for you know
32:59
all depending what business it is basically getting a
33:03
co-investor effectively right um no and
33:07
I love I love ARS Technica these guys do such a great job of ripping ISP is a new
33:11
one yeah so the the basic summary is
33:15
this the farmer says okay I would like
33:19
to get your your fiber Network extended to my farm in uh Cisco Nebraska uh which
33:26
is only 4 and half miles away from windream that's the name of the ISP away
33:30
from their nearest fiber facility actually in the grand scheme of things
33:34
not that bad not that far really not
33:38
that far I mean we were looking at a you
33:41
know not a completely trivial distance down the road from us and I think our
33:45
buildout cost was five digits not six
33:50
even better actually the farmer was able to determine that there appeared to be a
33:54
Windstream fiber line about A4 mile from his property which is confirmed by a map
33:59
of their fiber Network a quar mile from its property is not bad but but uh
34:06
apparently uh they refuse to connect him to that line citing some sort of it's
34:12
stating that it's some sort of reserved private windream only line which if you
34:16
guys know anything about the kind of data capacity of that fiber is capable
34:21
of very unlikely it is basically not a thing you
34:26
don't run fiber where any anywhere without dark fiber like without extra
34:30
capacity and even if you only had one
34:36
piece of fiber even if there was just
34:39
one which there isn't even if there was just one it's not like you can't split
34:44
multiple signals across a single piece of fiber that is a thing it's just fine
34:50
there's no way they need the entire capacity of it just for themselves um so
34:55
after receiving this ridiculous qu quot they contacted another network provider
35:00
at Northeast telephone company and even though they're completely out of their
35:04
service area they quoted the farmer
35:07
$41,900 so just over 10% the previous
35:11
estimate to extend their they also offered a $6,000 credit for any other
35:15
customer that signed up using the line that the farmer was paying to install I
35:18
mean you know what the stupid thing is is we got a quote from Tellis for this
35:22
place and they came in even though they are like the fiber infrastructure
35:28
in British columia like it's TS yeah um
35:32
or someone leasing from tus tus came in several times more
35:40
expensive in every possible way compared to any other quote we CAU like they were
35:45
completely out to lunch and I was like
35:48
so is the service different and they're like well we can offer services like uh
35:53
cell phone failover and I'm like right
35:58
but unless I'm buying like a a thousands
36:01
of dollars a month cell phone
36:05
plan like I couldn't I just buy that couldn't I just get like a 4G hotspot
36:10
stupid thing and put it in my server room like if if that's my plan if that's
36:13
my backup internet plan or if I wasn't a complete idiot couldn't I just get like
36:18
a residential line from you or sh or something and run that into
36:24
the building as well better A different brand it's like 80 bucks a month for
36:29
like something that's good enough to keep the the office operational in the
36:34
extremely unlikely event that the fiber connection's unavailable like come on
36:38
yeah you guys are ridiculous so it's unclear why
36:42
Windstream's fee was so much higher but they confirmed it when contacted by ARS
36:46
Technica stating that the total quote was for 36 months of dedicated internet
36:51
service and they when pressed for further information as to how exactly
36:55
they calculated that did not respond about the private line a quarter mile
36:59
from the property yeah um so yeah you
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know what why don't I do that and why don't you run off and get some plates
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laptop to work and open up the dock we'll talk about a new thing the only
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problem with me talking about a new thing is that I was 3D printing all freaking day with the twitch chat over
41:20
at twitch.tv/ lukor LFR which was I
41:23
think the longest stream we've ever done um you talked about Intel Skylake
41:28
Broadwell CPU shortages um you skipped yes I did do
41:33
that okay Spotify ending free
41:38
music oh jeez due to pressure from like
41:41
a bunch of companies that doesn't seem like them original article here is from
41:45
so muchh hat.com but basically they have no choice I thought it would shake my
41:49
head oh is it that I don't know I actually don't know okay uh the Sydney
41:54
Morning Herald I was just kind of having fun so
41:59
muchir we're both completely
42:02
wrong oh god oh also I want to say uh
42:05
Taran did eat one slice of that pizza
42:08
did he yeah uh John apparently likes it
42:11
what yeah the the anchovy oyster
42:15
Pizza God that's so weird anyway sorry
42:19
shortages ending soon so um yeah basically they're
42:24
they're getting pressured by um
42:27
Universal unal and Sony who are
42:31
basically yet to renew their licenses to Spotify to host music for their artists
42:35
so this is like serious business Spotify can either go premium only and compete
42:41
head-to-head with all the other services that are I mean this has got to be a
42:45
collusion lawsuit waiting to happen like just stifling competition
42:51
but the problem is that it'll take 10 or 20 years to actually resolve it and by
42:55
that time you know screaming might even be irrelevant maybe there's a DOT that
42:59
you like stick up your nose that contains all the music ever made and you
43:04
run a wire from your nose
43:07
so is it called a babble fish hher Guide
43:11
to the Galaxy I actually have never seen or read Hitchhiker's Guide to the
43:16
Galaxy that makes me sad anyways you put like a little fish in your ear because
43:19
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and it translates everything that you hear yeah
43:24
that makes sense maybe not a fish but if science could solve that problem for me
43:28
that would be great yeah like a magic booger sure um so there there you go
43:33
suaki there is no official statement from Spotify yet but uh yeah there's
43:38
really not too much else to say uh this is like the super uninteresting rumor
43:42
ever uh because I think a lot of people were really confused due to the model
43:48
name due to the model names about what this meant but a lot of the headlines
43:52
that I looked at in a lot of forum discussion uh was that uh do GTX
43:58
990m for notebooks maybe based on the desktop GTX
44:03
980 which to me is the least interesting
44:07
thing ever NVIDIA does this every time
44:10
the confusing thing is that there sticklers about model names when it
44:14
comes to desktop and mobile which is why they skip 300 series but then they don't
44:19
care about the rest of the numbers no
44:23
what and and it's not the first time they've done this N9 99 M being based on
44:29
the 980 desktop is not significant at all 980m
44:34
is already based on the 980 desktop so we might get a little bit more power or
44:39
something the interesting stuff about this though is that NVIDIA is not
44:45
launching an mxm module card this time that's the current word on the street
44:50
and they are apparently going to be letting the laptop designers really big
44:57
build their cooling solution and their laptop and power delivery around how
45:01
much of the chip they want to unlock interesting so the way it's always
45:06
worked in the past is that a laptop with
45:09
a part X performs
45:14
y 990m notebooks could be all over the
45:17
place and I mean this has already been happening to a much lesser extent with
45:22
GPU boost with throttling and boosting
45:26
but this could be a completely different level speaking of GPU boosting uh we
45:31
actually have filmed right the video where we took six Titan xes and compared
45:36
their boost levels to find out how much performance variance there is so stay
45:40
tuned for that guys it's filmed like back in the kitchen yeah like it's we
45:45
kind of we kind of forgot about it apparently
45:49
so I don't know I made it and then I was like oh I'm excited to see when that
45:53
comes on YouTube so I can see the comments on it and then I was like what
45:56
why is it why is it taking so long yes
46:00
apparently was because literally no one has looked at it at all since you filmed
46:04
it nope so um that's great uh this is
46:08
original original this is an original article from n Gadget originally posted
46:13
by Arty by the way the last one was ah Ming the fbii says retweeting terrorist
46:19
organizations could get you investigated
46:23
and or even arrested basically you could get wrecked
46:27
so you probably shouldn't I mean you
46:31
shouldn't need the FBI to tell you this honestly yeah that's one thing that I
46:35
thought about when I read this like I saw some comments I don't know what site
46:39
it was on um of people talking about
46:42
this and oh I can't believe that they
46:45
would think this all this kind of stuff it's like why why why are you doing this what kind of toolshed is retweeting Isis
46:51
propaganda yeah period yeah like I don't I don't
46:57
blame them at all this I I don't even know why they're telling us they should
47:01
have just probably been doing it this isn't even the FBI being all like y
47:04
we're going to monitor your you know NSA chip inside your brain to no you posted
47:11
it on social media that's a that's a that's a public thing like this is very
47:15
very public it's it's like it's like walk this is exactly the kind of stuff
47:19
that they should be taking advantage of it's like it's like parading around in front of the White House with like an ey
47:24
support Isis shirt on you don't think someone's going to ask what the crap
47:28
you're doing so there you go I mean um
47:34
basically what the FBI said is that Twitter has proved to be an invaluable
47:39
source of evidence against supporters of terrorism um an account that's
47:43
constantly retweeting content could be a sign of criminal activity with that said
47:47
context still matters so so if it's like an awareness like these
47:52
are bad accounts or maybe this is what they're doing make sure you know kind of
47:58
style thing I'm sure it's fine but if you're like a raah Rah kind of account
48:02
then it's probably are you okay bit my tongue ow oh that sucks you know what
48:06
really sucks is when you bite your like cheek or your tongue and then you go to
48:10
like check it and then bite the other thing mhm yeah so don't do that and when
48:14
it swells and you start biting it all the time and you just get this like flab
48:18
of cheek skin swelling unexpectedly is a big problem for me is it now he's
48:22
swelling up I swell very expectedly
48:26
consistently which is always during the Wayne
48:30
show um an example of a tweet that got someone arrested was 17-year-old Ali
48:35
shukri Amin a 17 okay that's twice there
48:39
uh who used Twitter to promote Bitcoin donations to
48:45
Isis so go to jail yeah bye-bye I don't
48:51
bye-bye again I I don't understand why they even bothered to tell us because
48:55
they should have just been doing this I this seems extremely expected a lot of
48:59
the news this week is like yep someone made a parent company for
49:04
themselves Elon musk's business models make it so that they bleed money at the
49:08
beginning and you probably shouldn't be friends with
49:13
terrorists all right so uh this is just
49:17
a really quick one the original article here is pcgamer.com uh Microsoft plans
49:22
to support gaming on Windows
49:26
by supporting Steam on Windows 10 or
49:31
something games for Windows was a prior approach where it was more at the time
49:35
like how do we take things we knew we
49:39
wanted to help make great multiplayer we knew we wanted to bring things over but
49:42
it wasn't the right approach it was the approach of let's just take things and
49:45
Transplant them you know something something and is Microsoft planning to
49:49
use the Windows user base to challenge steam no we're not intending to compete
49:52
with steam if anything we want them to be more successful they've done great things for PC Gam going to support steam
49:57
by doing nothing so they're going to support steam by not directly inhibiting
50:03
steam's progress yeah so that's cool I
50:06
guess uh directx12 will apparently not
50:09
oh that was posted by Z mule on the Forum by the way and the previous one was already uh this is by
50:14
hk5 and the original article here is PCR online.
50:19
Biz and our our headline topic of mantle
50:23
being dead is apparently not factual so
50:28
um AMD's gaming scientist Richard H what is with what is with these
50:35
titles like mid Langan nice guy gave me
50:38
this laptop calls himself Chief
50:45
gamer gaming scientist like it's like it's like what
50:50
did everyone at AMD play portal and so
50:53
it's like yes we need to do more science
50:57
also we need to sell things to Gamers
51:00
what about gaming and science together
51:04
and then there's the logitech's whole like standing there going well actually
51:07
hold on a second our tagline is like science wins so can you just not
51:13
actually um so mantle was intended to
51:16
solve a solve a problem that game devs
51:19
cared about uh they can use it for the same task in the future although no one
51:24
is going to no one is going to develop for an API that is anyway direct X2
51:31
means mantle has achieved its aim although I mean directx12 was in
51:37
development going to happen anyway way before AMD anyone even knew that mantle
51:43
was a thing um mantle will be used to solve different problems in the future
51:49
um no mantle has been
51:53
absorbed um by Kronos and you know any
51:57
useful you know tidbits of it have been
52:00
Borrowed by directx12 and that's it I really don't know why like okay to be
52:06
clear I see what he's saying like mantle will live on like you know in the DNA of
52:12
other Technologies the concept of mantle the goals of mantle will live on but
52:18
it's possible that Battlefield 4 is the only game or whatever Thief I guess
52:23
Battlefield the games that are out now are possibly the only games that will
52:27
ever exist where you change your rendering engine to mantle and then even
52:31
then it didn't really do anything yeah I think that was my
52:35
favorite part of the whole thing at least it wasn't worse they didn't make it worse mantle
52:41
at least it wasn't worse they didn't hurt people for using
52:46
it which is
52:49
good all right um this is
52:52
cool news.sky.com crazy sorry laging
52:56
like crazy I know we're not dropping frases but everyone's freaking out oh
52:59
okay well nothing we can do about that that's all yeah Sky News says the UK to
53:04
test wireless charging for electric cars
53:08
so check that out this right here is an
53:11
electric recharging Lane so as you drive
53:15
your car would recharge that is some
53:19
seriously awesome use of taxpayer dollars if Canada decided to do stuff
53:24
like that and and you wouldn't have to do it everywhere because the plan in the
53:27
UK is also to put charging stations I think every 20 miles or something stupid
53:31
like that like just awesome um but the idea is that if you put that on the main
53:35
throw first like imagine if you have that where people get stuck in traffic
53:40
mhm so if you're going to be stuck in traffic and your battery is going to be
53:43
draining you got your air conditioning on or whatever hey it's all good I'm not
53:48
going to get stuck here yeah whereas if you're just going on you know a trip off
53:53
the main drag where you've got the charging Lanes then that's fine that
53:56
that's predictable I love this this is like the coolest thing ever pretty much
54:01
super cool um what is there to really say about it uh British government has
54:05
committed uh 500 million pounds over the
54:08
next 5 years to keep Britain at the Forefront of this technology and the
54:12
trials are expected to last for approximately 18 months and subject to
54:15
the results could be followed by Road trials this makes a lot more sense than
54:18
like solar roadways yes it does yeah cuz that was a whole load of crap yeah it
54:23
was kind of funny how the internet exploded like I could almost see like
54:28
some kind of like heated roadways versus
54:33
electric like solar panel roadways like there's there's a thousand other ways to
54:38
tackle that that wouldn't involve completely tearing up every single road
54:43
yeah one tip for the live viewers by the way uh apparently refreshing the stream
54:48
helps a lot anyways keep on so it doesn't seem to be us HTC stock value is
54:52
tanking apparently it's less than their cash Holdings which renders them more or
54:57
less worth nothing which is uh not great and the
55:02
sad thing about that is that we really need Vive to come out no no no U well
55:07
that to we do yeah Vive looks badass yeah so get this HTC trading below their
55:13
cash value leaves the brand with no value not just the brand with no value
55:19
okay this leaves their buildings that
55:22
they own with no value so basically the
55:26
consensus is that their liabilities uh things like that I think
55:31
something like 30% of their assets are
55:35
inventory 30 yeah 30% of the asset value
55:38
comes from inventory and accounts receivable so they're saying that their
55:43
liabilities more than compensate for
55:47
buildings that they own and that the HTC
55:50
brand itself that HTC logo is effectively worth nothing
55:58
wow so to be clear they this is this is
56:02
not something that happened overnight they had 27.9 billion in cash in 2011
56:10
and now have just over 1.45
56:14
billion okay and you got to look at it and go you know if Tesla can make a car
56:19
for a billion dollars what have you been doing what did HTC do with
56:24
it that's only four years they have no
56:27
long-term debt I mean that makes sense cuz they had 28 billion in the bank why
56:32
would they be taking out loans but they haven't managed to be profitable and
56:39
basically the word on the the general consensus among industry analysts is
56:43
that they won't be able to get profitable and yeah they they have little chance to
56:48
compete with future iPhone and Samsung devices their resources to be completely
56:53
honest I I really don't see people diving on on HTC phones much lately the
56:58
one the 1 M9 is is kind of kind of not great I mean I think my review of it I I
57:03
did review it so I've already said what I have to say about it but it's like
57:07
kind of not very great yeah
57:10
um and we're going like even more than
57:14
before we're going down to just a few brands on mobile that really matter yep
57:18
and I mean the fact that Samsung woke up and stopped completely crapping itself
57:22
um the S6 and the S6 Edge are excellent phones uh there seems to be a fair bit
57:26
of hype about Note 5 I actually haven't really I haven't watched the event or
57:32
anything like that um CU I tend to just kind of take a when I get a phone then
57:37
I'll deal with it approach to mobile devices but um and I don't blame you for
57:42
that yeah it looks like a fair bit of hype right now
57:46
um oh that was posted on the Forum by Mr
57:49
straight face Japan is apparently turning back on their nuclear reactors
57:55
this is uh well they were they were turned off
57:58
in response to a meltdown back in uh
58:02
2011 so the Fukushima meltdown uh
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basically shut down all the nation's nuclear power plants and then they
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switched the first one back on as of uh
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looks like about 3 days ago so there is
58:16
a higher tsunami wall and a lot of new
58:19
security measures uh the new regulations are incomparably stricter than the past
58:25
and this is likely in response to the energy prices in Japan skyrocketing by
58:30
30% in the last four years I mean the cold hard truth is that nuclear power
58:36
for all of its risks like it's it's such
58:39
a it's such a catch 22 right because the
58:43
it's like driving though because when people are like oh they they shouldn't
58:46
increase speed limits because they're more dangerous it's like well we also
58:51
shouldn't drive 30 everywhere and the the the issue you
58:55
need to take some risks and I mean that's easy for us to
58:58
say like way over here in Canada where we're just powered by Falling Water
59:02
which is yeah about as dangerous to people who aren't sitting under the dam
59:07
as like I mean it's less dangerous than
59:10
solar power cuz the sun is like cancer and whatnot no well it's more than water
59:18
no because a dam burst can be dangerous wait but we're not under it so the dam
59:23
is hundreds and hundreds of kilometers away what do we care yeah but solar
59:27
power isn't going to hurt you but the sun you can't just get rid of the sun if
59:32
you don't want solar power it's going to be there anyways the sun isn't there
59:37
because of solar power okay my point is that Hydro power DC Hydro didn't install
59:41
the sun my point is that hydr power is safe for the people who aren't near the
59:45
dam okay yes but but it's like this
59:48
Catch 22 because the denser your population the more optimal nuclear
59:54
power looks because you don't have to burn all this coal uh you don't have
59:58
like you know solar power Fields hectares and hectares of you know wind
60:04
windmills and crap like that wind power
60:07
so but the denser your population well
60:10
the higher risk nuclear power is the more people have to be near a nuclear
60:14
power we're working stuff we're working on stuff like uh we are personally yes
60:19
yes yes that's what this new headquarters building is for it's for
60:23
the L working on developing title power in a building away from the
60:28
ocean with no water facilities we could
60:32
be closer to the Ocean than you think two washrooms we're working on
60:35
technology that will actually have the ocean here
60:39
yeah sick anyways uh yeah tidal power
60:44
geothermal is being revolutionized constantly solar getting solar more
60:48
ubiquitous like getting every building with solar on top of it will make it a
60:52
lot more effective big difference um there's every year solar like how well
60:58
the solar power panels uh the cells actually perform massively increases
61:03
storage solutions for them get way better like the Tesla wall power thing
61:07
we have 11,000 viewers that's new alltime high
61:10
yeah pizza party that gets way better
61:14
everything gets way better in terms of solar every year geothermal is moving up
61:17
to Tidal power still has a ton of development going on it's still a little
61:21
cray but they've got a lot of development going on like alternatives
61:25
are coming but nuclear is strong and here now and you can say whatever you
61:29
want about they should maybe be using thorium reactors or whatever but not
61:32
only is nuclear here now they actually have the plants now today yeah they just
61:36
turn them back on with more safety measures which should definitely be a
61:40
thing y yeah all right the ESL this is
61:43
posted by X yrz best the ESL announces
61:48
details of their antidoping policy so there's actually a
61:53
bunch of different sources for this one we're going to pull up the poon one just
61:56
for because polygons are cool and their shapes and so I like shapes um so you
62:03
want to go ahead and run through what's going on here I also haven't read this
62:07
one okay well then fine jump in very so they adopt the
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world anti-doping agency's prohibited
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substance
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and we're back we're back
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okay um Pizza stream yeah taking down
62:26
the the xplit okay so uh yeah we we had so many
62:31
viewers that like the local application crashed yeah um so
62:37
the doesn't work that way right here's where I was leaving off so you can make
62:42
all kinds of arguments for marijuana not
62:45
being a performance-enhancing substance I mean
62:50
although I do know people that play better when playing video games while
62:53
they're maybe possibly under the influence of the marriage seriously yes
62:58
but that is a different problem and that's because they play more often when
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they are under the influence right so it's a regularization so it's no secret
63:06
that that playing under your ideal
63:10
conditions where you've practiced is a good idea but like I mean that whole
63:14
thing with Ross reati uh was that was
63:17
that in like 2004 I think it's wow I'm
63:20
old um where so a Canadian snowboarder who did he end up getting back but he
63:26
had his gold medal stripped because of THC and we're kind of sitting here
63:32
snowboarding culture particularly in the earlier days in the
63:37
earlier days you you throw a rock in a
63:40
room of Canadian snowboarders and you're going to hit someone who's smoked a
63:44
little bit of grass in their day um and
63:47
then there was the whole thing with Michael Phelps where he didn't he wasn't
63:50
even tested positive he had he had a duy
63:53
in his hand at a party once and someone
63:57
like shared that picture um so anyway
64:02
anyway it's good they're doing something this is all in response to if you didn't
64:06
catch it we talked about this on W show before but Corey seis frezon admission
64:11
last month that the professional Counter-Strike Global Offensive player
64:14
used Aderall during the esl1 cats event
64:17
in March and the quote was which they knew we were all on ader all I don't
64:21
even give an f it was pretty obvious if you listen to the coms people can hated
64:26
or whatever so testing positive could result in a range of punishments from
64:30
reduced prize money and tournament points to disqualification and a maximum
64:35
two-year ban from ESL events that's actually scary prize money like they're
64:39
going to want to win and if they take ad all do better and have reduced prize
64:43
money they'll just probably win more money anyways but a two-year suspension in Pro gaming is basically a lifelong
64:48
suspension the careers are phenomenally short you have a very narrow window
64:53
where you have to be really successful and then maybe you get a coaching job
64:57
after cuz like you're still way better
65:00
than humans but you're not good
65:04
enough yeah um so you know the funny
65:08
thing about this to me is that substance abuse okay and and this
65:15
something like Aderall might not even be abuse this is just testing positive for
65:20
it period that's that's that's a prescription medication potentially I
65:25
mean I'm sure if you have a prescription for it not necessarily no there's lots
65:31
of stuff like that like legitimate prescriptions in NBA or whatever like
65:34
they test positive for it boom no done done done suspension um and the thing
65:40
about this is like where do we draw the line is the line where you're competing
65:45
for money because okay should I suspend
65:48
Luke if I find out that he's been popping riddlin before he comes into
65:52
work so he can focus better
65:55
this isn't a competition but isn't it isn't the
66:00
workplace competitive are you not competing for promotions for for
66:07
recognition from your boss or your peers which I never get
66:13
anymore shut up and go back in your
66:16
Harry Potter closet but think about that for a second
66:21
is where do we draw the line now you can't play video games and I real realiz
66:25
that I have made exactly the opposite argument previously on the show this is
66:29
as much a devil's Devil's Advocate thing as anything else um that's what this
66:34
whole show but where do we draw the line right are you not allowed to take
66:39
Aderall like should we just ban the drug out right no it makes people perform
66:43
better it's not fair and honestly a lot
66:46
of people that I know that are really good at video
66:51
games whether or not it's true because there's some hubub about that but add or
66:57
ADHD a lot of people that I know that are really good at video games so like
67:01
you're going to be excluding a lot of people that would be prescribed for these drugs and looking in at the states
67:07
isn't what's what's prescription rates in the states for adol and rity I don't
67:11
I don't remember but it's something obscene yeah I mean the thing about the
67:15
thing about ADHD is that and I I feel like I can talk about this fairly
67:19
critically because I was haven't figured that out an ADHD kid I was on in very
67:26
legitimately by the way I might add but um what is a legitimate prescription
67:33
for Ridin because you see a lot of kids getting Ridin subscript subscriptions
67:38
Ridin prescriptions yeah it's like uh sign up for it hold on Dollar Shave Club
67:42
isn't a sponsor yeah dollar dollar riddlin club we send your riddlin once a
67:46
month for a low monthly Fe you know what if you had a prescription of that stuff
67:50
and there was a service like dollar ridd and Club I'd be down with that I would
67:53
be down to get my good business model they know what they're doing I would be down to get my prescriptions delivered
67:57
online if I didn't think that every company selling prescription medications
68:01
online was only interested in selling me fake Viagra um so so no let's so hold on
68:07
wait so so back to that so the thing the the the symptoms that get someone a Rin
68:13
prescription and I talk about Rin because that was the drug back in my day
68:16
when I was on it I think it's it's Aderall now but whatever adol consider
68:19
the thing that gets you a Rin prescription is being hyper which
68:25
doesn't to be a bad thing so show me a redbled 8-year-old that isn't a little
68:29
hyper and you know what the reality of it is is my childhood was pretty
68:33
complicated and if I wasn't acting out
68:38
if I wasn't a little offthe wall then there was probably something even more
68:41
wrong with me so is a Ridin prescription
68:45
the answer or should we be finding the underlying issue a lot of the time ADHD
68:49
gets used as a catchall diagnosis it's kind of like um and sometimes it will be
68:53
real I'm sure yeah absolutely it does get used as a catch all a lot and the
68:57
thing that people have to understand too is that ADHD is a spectrum it's like
69:02
it's like autism you're not like 100%
69:05
Autistic or 0% autistic just like you're
69:08
not 100% ADHD like all over the place I
69:11
have to do a thousand things right now or you just sit like a lump like this
69:15
it's it's it's a spectrum so where is the line drawn it's is very complicated
69:20
and you look at something like autism where I believe Asbergers which was kind
69:24
of like mild autism spectrum has
69:27
actually been removed as an official
69:30
diagnosis by at least I think my mom was telling me there was some organization
69:33
that has that has eliminated as a diagnosable condition because basically
69:39
the symptom was being kind of like socially awkward and like and so who
69:46
isn't like who isn't a little hyper who isn't a little socially awkward so so it
69:50
became sort of like what is like where's where's the line if I'm not if I'm not
69:54
prepared for someone to recognize me or notice me I'm the weirdest person ever
69:59
if I'm like totally not thinking about that possibility at all that's some's
70:03
like hi and's just like hey I've been really rude to people
70:08
by accident just cuz I was like completely
70:13
taken off guard they were like hey lonus
70:16
and I've gotten more used to it now I'm just like hey the really awkward one for
70:20
me though sorry I'm totally going off in a tangent is I'm pretty bad with names
70:23
and faces so it's when people are like
70:27
hey lonus and I'm like hey and I just think they're a fan or whatever but it's
70:30
actually someone I
70:33
know that sounds that sounds like me that's super super two minutes left on
70:39
the print oh wow really that's fun I wish that power supply was working I'm
70:44
going to I'm going to play around with a little bit after the show and see if I can figure out what's going on yeah um
70:51
this is a pretty exciting topic though this is from gosu
70:56
gamersnet and this is uh this is going to be a definite opinion piece right
71:01
here or piece of opinion or I don't know I don't know what you want to call this
71:06
but we are we are straw pulling the crap out of this
71:09
one um Esports in
71:16
school all right um I think I gotta I
71:20
got to give more than the usual options so yes gaming
71:26
um so hold on like practical gaming
71:30
Theory and um you know like I don't know
71:37
ah okay
71:42
okay yes just theory yes just practical
71:47
gaming so do want to talk about this a little bit like okay yeah there's I
71:50
don't think there's a ton to say basically a few schools in Sweden
71:55
uh not like certain schools not all of
71:59
them we'll be putting about 3 hours of Esports class a week so remembering how
72:04
they do high school I don't know if they do it this way in Sweden you have blocks
72:08
so you might have like an hourong block
72:11
three times in one week so like Monday Wednesday Friday or something I'm
72:15
assuming that's how it's going to work um peoples will be able to practice and
72:20
learn games such as Dota 2 and Counter Strike just to name a few um none are
72:25
supporting fullblown Esports programs yet but certain uh alignments can take
72:30
classes in Dota Counterstrike and Esports in general it's really funny
72:33
that they're called alignments yeah um it's like if you're a if you're
72:39
a passive alignment then you can take Esports class but no woodworking for you
72:44
that sounds a lot like video game high school where it was like are you an RPG
72:48
player and like that's what class system you were in so you could go with like
72:52
racing and then you took all the racing class
72:56
that's what you were you were a racing student you didn't do the RPG stuff you
72:59
might in your own free time after class but in class you're a racing student
73:05
so um they're treated as normal athletic subjects access to rooms and areas
73:09
designated for practice uh school teams will be formed with the ghoul of
73:13
competing at of with the ghoul with the goal of competing at events um they're
73:18
planning on bringing in players and personalities for guest lectures which
73:21
probably wouldn't be that hard to find in Sweden completely honest kind of a
73:24
big deal they're really good at those things um at one school student studying
73:31
events will also get to host a large tournament as their third year final
73:35
project that's pretty interesting
73:38
um yeah the school system must get better to in general and educating
73:42
people about the Contemporary society and this is good evidence of that very
73:46
fact I think it's interesting that it's so that was a quote that's from Ibraham
73:50
Khalifa chairman of education and employment um in uh
73:55
sigtuna County yeah Stockholm and that's a good point isn't
74:03
it we've got nobody voting on the straw pole oh balls I think I posted it in the
74:07
wrong chat I think I had the wrong another pretty cool quote there have been some frowning noses and some
74:12
wondering why they get to play computer games during school hours but we aim to
74:16
kill the myth that it is that it has to be a bad thing furthermore it is about
74:21
showing respect to this group of peoples now there's some interesting things kids
74:25
that aren't going to want to engage or straight up won't engage at least
74:29
positively in gym class like you can't expect every kid that
74:35
goes to gym class to get on an NFL team yeah and like we've all known that but
74:38
one of the reasons why people do it is because of team building exercises
74:42
physical fitness all this other kind of stuff well Esports classes could work
74:47
very much in the team building exercises way it could help these kids get in
74:51
different Social Circles if you're someone who's not necessarily going to do great in gym class
74:55
maybe this could be one of your Avenues to build a team and make friends that way or honestly a lot of the really good
75:01
uh players that I know are really physically fit so maybe it's just
75:04
another Avenue uh it can be very mentally stimulating especially some of
75:08
these hard games you're very engaged the whole time um I don't think it's a
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terrible thing I don't know about three hours a
75:16
week yeah I'm really like I'm really in high school you get to pick your courses
75:21
right so I'm really not sure how I would feel about my son you know coming home
75:25
and being like yeah I enrolled in gaming level to well in high school you'd
75:30
probably be a part of that conversation yeah or like okay fine like here's
75:34
here's my suggested course load that I'm taking you know I'm going to take
75:38
chemistry DOTA and uh and Mathematics if
75:41
he had a spare I mean the thing the thing for me is
75:47
that honestly I had I had a few spares
75:50
because my school just didn't have anything better to offer me so here's my
75:55
here's my problem if you're going to be like H like I have no problem with a
76:00
school DOTA team that I don't object but
76:03
you want it to be extracurricular I think it should be extracurricular I don't think it needs to be during class
76:07
time and the reason that P I think they should encourage school teams yes no
76:13
problem with that at all I think that's great I think being part of a school
76:17
team and being part of your your school's culture is really important and
76:20
cool but the reason that PE gets a pass
76:23
for me because PE was something that I stopped taking immediately when I didn't
76:27
have to anymore um not because I couldn't do it or whatever it was just I
76:32
just thought it was a waste of my time I have to be in school during this time
76:36
like when I was in high school I was one of those kids that didn't take a free
76:39
blog I took no free Block I took no PE I
76:42
took all my Sciences even though you only had to take I think one or
76:47
something to to graduate one grade 12 level science or did you even need any
76:50
12 need a grade 12 level science so so so I did all my grade 12 level Sciences
76:56
need 10 or 11 or something or and and stuff like that because I'm in school to
77:00
learn and video games are not learning
77:03
and quite frankly throwing a basketball at a hoop is not learning either unless
77:07
you're serious about it in which case you're on the team and you're attending
77:11
practices before or after school and it's a serious part of your life like
77:14
it's it's it's it's secondary school is learning and PE the reason that that I
77:21
give it a pass for existing at all is that the rationale behind it whether it
77:26
works or not is very much an open discussion and not one that I'm going to
77:29
get into now but the rationale behind it is that it's about getting into the
77:33
habit of doing some exercise daily which is a good lifelong Habit to have and
77:39
getting kids used to that idea especially I mean I don't know what the
77:43
culture like going to University that doesn't work um so I don't know what the
77:48
cultures like in Sweden but here even
77:52
for very little kids uh PE might might be the only exercise these kids are
77:56
getting on a given day and having it exist at all if that does if that does
78:02
anything if it does okay if it does nothing else it reduces the barrier to
78:08
entry for learning a sport and I'll
78:12
explain what that means like badminton I think one of the big things holding it
78:17
back I I love badminton I play badmon all the time one of the big things
78:20
holding badminton back it is is it is damn near impossible to pick it up
78:24
because where do you play well it's kind of fragmented there's like badminton
78:29
centers but the only way to play there is to either go play Drop in with like
78:34
all these people of varied skill levels most of which show up with a click of
78:38
friends to play Drop in together so there's almost no one to play with if
78:42
you're not very good no one's going to want to play with you people will actively avoid you okay so the
78:48
alternative is you can go try and find like the like the the Rogue groups the
78:53
the leave it alone you C someone's touching his 3D print
78:58
apparently so there'll be like like small small private leagues or like
79:03
private facilities or whatever so you can play at those again no one's going
79:06
to want to play with you if you suck which leaves nothing you can like hit to
79:11
yourself in your backyard which is which is sort of horrible um so unless you're
79:16
any good it's not like bowling where you can just go practice by yourself um it's
79:20
it's going to be hard to become part of that that social experience of of
79:25
playing with people and and learning and all that and all that kind of stuff so I
79:28
think that PE class builds skills that
79:31
make it even possible to go and engage I mean can you imagine if you if you show
79:36
up at you know um the local basketball
79:39
court you know just at the park or whatever and you totally suck no one's
79:43
going to want you to play you know you'd be always last to be picked and in some
79:47
cases never picked at all so You' just lean up on the wall or sit up in the
79:50
bleachers with the rest of the sorry yeah that was awesome I so happy I came
79:55
back for that so that to me is the
79:59
justification for PE because you are legitimately learning how to engage in
80:04
these activities and PE will cover things like how to throw a ball because
80:09
it's one thing if you show up for like a beer league baseball team and you can
80:13
throw a ball and like swing a bat but you're kind of not very good versus if
80:17
you show up and you like throw something like this people are just going to be
80:21
like oh my go no one's going to want to play with you so
80:25
there you go and I don't think that
80:28
Esports has that issue I think it's easy to practice on your own at home outside
80:34
of school hours and it's also you know
80:37
let's be honest with ourselves it's very
80:41
much pure enjoyment for the vast majority of people who are doing it the
80:46
only people who are really working at it are the competitive people so what's the
80:52
benefit for the people who aren't competitive is this A system that is going to be put
80:57
in place and simply abused I don't know um I can also see like if it was a
81:01
purely Theory based and no one agrees with me 5% said yes just Theory like if
81:06
it was a purely Theory based thing like you're looking at you know how leagues
81:10
work you're looking at the history of gaming you're looking at like if we were
81:13
going to tackle Esports more from like just a purely educational perspective
81:18
then great but I don't and here's another thing 3 hours a week is nothing
81:23
for gaming like if you're like yeah I'm going to get great at Starcraft 2 I'm
81:26
going to practice for 3 hours like what you've done your tutorial campaign in
81:30
the first week of classes like that that's really that's
81:34
really silly yeah like gaming is not
81:37
designed for learning it in three hours
81:40
a week it's designed to have people sit down and do it repetitively until they
81:46
Master it which is again one of the criticisms of of PE of gym class is that
81:50
you're never going to get great at football by doing your one week football
81:54
unit when I was playing football it was three four practices a week and a
81:59
game so like yeah and like we were pretty good
82:04
but four practices a week at like I think an hour and a half each mhm and a
82:08
game that's a
82:12
lot so I personally don't think people should be playing video games in class
82:18
um I don't think it makes a ton of sense
82:21
objectively so there you go
82:25
um what else do we got
82:28
here n oh this is original article here
82:31
is kataku and this is by uh RAM mataz
82:35
posted on the Forum a Nintendo fired an employee for speaking out on a podcast
82:40
um lot of debate about this um but the
82:44
reality of it is whether it was whether it was heartless or not uh it's
82:49
extraordinarily likely especially given the secretive culture at Nintendo that
82:53
this was in his employee agreement that he was not to talk publicly about
82:57
company projects or and he gave a lot of opinions not all of them positive about
83:02
you know policies and and yeah
83:05
basically last week he went on the podcast said some things he shouldn't
83:09
have this week Nintendo fired him um I
83:13
hope that we never get corporate enough around here to
83:17
have to have something like that happen
83:20
I've seen a lot of people saying well he should have been given a warning first
83:24
or whatever else but you know what pretty brutal this was the
83:28
warning but the warning was for everyone else yeah and if you are going and see
83:35
the thing to understand too about Nintendo is that they have a culture
83:38
that's very secretive nothing leaks from
83:41
Nintendo why because when it happens
83:44
they make an example out of them and if people get a warning everyone's if one
83:49
person gets one warning everyone's going to feel like they have a freeb too
83:55
so I get it um super sucky and his
84:00
Facebook comment is absolutely heartbreaking you know like I look
84:04
around my house I see images of my son and I feel intense shame and crippling
84:08
sadness I know that if I can't find a job at least as good as this one I won't
84:12
be able to provide for my family um I've lost them their health
84:16
coverage and their security I also know that I've probably lost a good deal of my friends just because I know how hard
84:20
it can be to stay in touch with someone when the convenience of proximity Is
84:24
Lost I'm so sorry to everyone I failed you you believed in me and supported me
84:27
and trusted me and I failed you I failed me and that's that's that is some that
84:32
is some powerful stuff right there and super super sucky but the thing that you
84:39
so let let this be let it not be for nothing let this be a warning to you
84:44
read your employee agreement
84:48
carefully don't talk about private stuff
84:52
to anyone who is not internal and authorized CU that is some that is some
84:57
sucky stuff right there um one more topic uh scre with the printer so I'm a
85:03
little pissed off but we can do one more topic if okay this is so annoying
85:07
because if they screw anything up now I'm just going to have to spend hours fixing it but they think it's funny so
85:12
that's okay steam boy or smash zero is a portable handheld steam machine so it's
85:17
going to be powered by 4 gigs of RAM 32 gigs of internal storage a 720p
85:21
touchcreen and an HDMI output it will carry an AMD embedded G Series S so with
85:28
a Jaguar based CPU and gcn based radon
85:32
Graphics basically I think this thing is probably a boatload of fail at
85:36
$300 um but it will there's naturally
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going to be tons of games in your library that won't be compatible with smash zero on Steam duh yeah but it will
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according to the promotional video play 1,000 plus games there's so many of
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those are going to be trash yeah so many is going to be trash yeah that's it's
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not about the volume of games at all no
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so on that note thank you guys for
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watching we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel yay it's
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funny they always ask if we're going to be on time this week but at the end of every show I say same bat
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time so no oh it didn't work I told you it
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wouldn't work
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there it worked yay