INTEL POACHES AMD - WAN Show November 10, 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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14,226 words · ~71 min read
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all right so we're late but we're only like seven
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minutes late dude we're relatively early compared to other shows yes in
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fact we're on time i mean even technically i think it says
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somewhere that we start at five now so we might be
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early it's 4 30 somewhere yeah those weird time zones that are seven minutes
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yeah don't worry anyways we have a bunch of great topics
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this week we actually don't have a bunch of great topics but we have a few like
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absolute zingers um over quantity this week yeah and some of them are actually
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quite fantastic i'm going to talk about uh nintendo and sandisk
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just screwing over customers it's going to be great also facebook wants your
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nude photos today so help them out and they can have them
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Intel and the other guys AMD have actually collaborated to make a chip
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together and the plot thickens as Intel gets a
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new employee a very special new employee it's Linus
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that's why he's not here yeah he quick we would anyway anyways he's intro to
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the show that's him uh that's sailing away
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Linus wait we need you i'm dead oh
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i'm james and ladies
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cut the bike cut it
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the delay box my function
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all right freshbooks
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i fix it put this thing back go to no guest apparently we're clipping like
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crazy people are really upset about the audio flippity-clop i don't know what
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people did we're just really loud this week we might have to redo it oh i don't know
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what to change on you can i give you a test tone
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there's a song i don't know how to describe it it's a russian song it was like a viral
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sensation a few years ago
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yeah like the guy's like super weird he makes up noise so if on google home if
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you're like hey google play that russian song where
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the guy goes it'll play it
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and i don't actually know the name of the song so i have to do it like that every single time that's amazing it
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works every time what are you doing down there luke
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are we gonna on the incredibly dusty mixer
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i think i might have found master volume
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so hopefully it's okay we're just gonna go with it we'll see what the audience
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says pc master volume race oh my goodness
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watch that be a thing someone finds like a specific volume
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level that like you set Windows to and then they want everyone all the content
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creators to like set their volumes to another thing see i thought you were you
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were gonna go a different route like the pc master volume race is just a bunch of
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pc enthusiasts with great hair
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giant giant teased back combed hair
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that would be that would be absolutely fantastic do you want to start at the beginning i want to start here yeah okay
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yeah uh so apparently luke has been living under our absolute hefty rock
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okay no i i knew i knew that he had left i didn't know that he wasn't doing
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spoilers okay okay okay so let's start at the beginning i'm gonna leave this
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off screen until we get into it on monday yeah made an announcement
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they announced that they're going to be making a chip that has
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AMD graphics on it not integrated graphics it still has Intel integrated
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graphics but it has discrete
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a discrete GPU that's on the same like die yeah
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so they found a way to create gaming laptops with performance level processors and discrete graphics in a
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much smaller form factor and they're part partnering with AMD to do it so
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what they've done is they've reduced the usual silicon footprint by less than
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half of the standard discrete components by putting a core h series processor
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hbm2 memory and a custom to Intel discrete graphics chip from AMD onto a
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single package it really bad still clippage
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we interrupt this program for shitty audio you don't turn down the master you
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turn on the input so where was the master i don't know
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what any of these are that's the thing i don't either i brought that slider is it
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so bad that i shouldn't even talk right now no it's not that bad okay well i'm
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going to continue that okay yeah go go yeah okay
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i wish we could can we show them a link though can you yeah there's a sweet
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picture uh follow the first link this one no not the second one
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okay yeah because then it'll give you a visual of how much smaller this new
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integrated thing is oh no that go
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yeah that's it
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there we go there used to be a slideshow though on another site where you can
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click through and see like the normal size of the pcb where you when you have
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discrete graphics next to a processor and like how much space that
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takes up compared to this one integrated thing okay it's like almost just half
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the size i'll try to i'll try to look around for that you keep going we're all
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stoked though because what this means is you can have a ba gaming laptop
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that's not thicker than the thinnest thin and light laptops we see today
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because you'll have so much more space for the oems to make up thermal
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solutions or maybe they can create their own new board layouts or increase the
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battery life so super super sweet yeah
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and that was on monday and then on tuesday AMD had an announcement of
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their own yeah that raj kaduri was actually leaving so a
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couple of ranchers ago and that was huge and i knew about that and people had
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suspected that because a couple of languages ago when i was here with Linus we talked about that that was the
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announcement that week that he was going on a sabbatical yeah yeah and i thought
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it was overhyped i thought it was like who cares guys he just worked really hard inventing vega and now he wants a
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two-month break what's the big deal yeah everyone's like nah
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this is gonna be really bad he's not coming back something's afoot and
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because sabbaticals okay to give a little bit of insight to some of the
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tech industry at some of the really big tech companies i'm not going to name
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specific names very long term sabbaticals are a thing and people come
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back so like i'm not i would have actually sided with you guys and been like oh
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it's probably fine i didn't know that but i knew in the academic world they do
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it all the time professors do that all the time yeah it's like whatever he just busted ass like now he can chill yeah
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but uh lions was like no like this is bad and a lot of other people agreed
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with him so maybe i wasn't wrong maybe they didn't know at the time but it turns out
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on tuesday announced yeah raja's leaving AMD
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the next day on wednesday Intel has another announcement saying uh yeah guess what
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we got a new teammate it's raja he's gonna be
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the head of everything over here Intel to develop discrete gpus hires
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raja kaduri as chief architect and senior vp that is huge if you don't know
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this guy that's actually like a really big deal if you saw the memes from
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forever ago uh when he like dropped the GPU in front of Linus and it was like
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the only one and it was like oh my goodness finally uh someone dropped
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something on camera who wasn't Linus in front of Linus it's contagious yeah it's
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crazy Linus infected him with the dropping virus um maybe that's why he
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dropped a company oh man
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um yeah so he he basically started it all at Radeon in like the 90s and then
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he left for a while to apple then he came back and did vega and now he's
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leaving and originally you might think okay so Intel just announced this
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integrated card um maybe the next iteration of that instead of
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working with AMD it's just gonna have an in-house description graphics like the
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similar tech because it's the same guy but no they've gone a step further and
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announced that actually they're gonna flush out their entire GPU stack uh and
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most relevant to us and our audience is probably high-end
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like Intel's gonna try to make gpus again
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that's crazy and hopefully they won't suck like the i-740 in the 90s and
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larabee project that never even landed
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that that that that is legitimately crazy uh this is exciting and scary at
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the same time because it's exciting to see what Intel's gonna do with this but
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then it's also scary because like AMD just lost
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then yeah but then at the same time no offense
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a little bit under performing on a couple of the cards compared to what
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people were sort of expecting so well how much of that is his fault
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yeah i don't know maybe none or maybe all i have no idea do you think they'll
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make a card a graphics card aimed at gamers or do you think they're just
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going to be trying to capture the ai market which is why NVIDIA's stock has
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gone up three to like three four yeah no i'm suspecting that direction i i
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honestly Intel is not really super on top of the let's go after gamers thing
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um and i don't think they have been for a long time if if they're going to do
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something i expect it's going to be some form of enterprise application some form
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of industry application they've been showing that card for a very long time
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them diving super hard into uh knuck
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which i thought was kind of a weird move but whatever them diving super hard into
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uh internet of things which is another thing they want to do with their gpus
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here yeah not surprised at all Intel's going super hard into iot and has been
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for a while i would expect them to be trying to do something along with ai or
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machine learning which is sort of the same deal and etc i don't expect this is
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going to be a gamer focus thing i'm sure they'll find ways to like trickle down
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technology be like oh we figured out how to do this neat thing like being able to
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make laptops thinner because of this tech and still have it be high performance and whatnot which is super
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cool but i don't think it's going to be a gamer focused
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drive and what about the future of AMD did are they screwed without this guy or
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did he teach amanda fish as it were well i think AMD's been doing really
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great on the processor side of things and i think they've been flexing those
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muscles for a while now and when they first came out with this new
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wave of processors something that we were saying a lot was that uh they
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needed to be out for a while because like
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us with our infrastructure looking at the uh the editing den we don't upgrade
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their stuff until next gen yeah and we give them really baller stuff from last
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gen so that it's already proven we know the there isn't going to be any like
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major crazy BIOS changes because like the RAM didn't work or any like junk
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like that it's all going to be fine a company cannot afford that down time
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for a gamer it's like just frustrating but and sometimes even fun in a weird a
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self-abusive way um but like
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it's it's it's a different scenario right and
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now that their process has been out for a while people are starting to trust it
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more and that's really cool they've been selling really well i'm seeing a lot more builds starting with that platform
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it hasn't even taken that long no it's only been
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like how long since like four months we're looking at months yeah and already
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like the RAM issues it's just dialed in oh it's tons of it is being taken care
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of which is awesome so there's doing great on that front gpus have not been
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seeing as much success um so i don't know hopefully teach
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amanda fish happened i guess and hopefully they keep trying on GPU
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because i want AMD winning on both fronts because Intel needs a proper
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competitor and NVIDIA needs a proper competitor and there isn't a fourth so
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they need to kind of manage it speaking of the tuning uh wolfenstein is
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vulcan only and it's like slaying on on ryzen it's like utilizing like for with
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an 1800x uses all the cores all the threads that's super cool
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it's equally good uh with like a like a 7700k like those like super
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single thready ones yeah it kicks out on both platforms now which is awesome
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that's really cool i like that kind of stuff when i made my wtf is going on
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with vulcan and dx12 video a lot of it was the reason why we made that video as
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probably a lot of you guys know was a lot of people in the comments were screaming about us not necessarily
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testing with those a lot of time and a big part of my conclusion on that
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ridiculously long video was there just isn't games that have been released that
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are tuned for this properly yet and maybe wolfenstein is like the beginning
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of the flock that's cool
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anyways moving forward
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it doesn't really matter you guys saw that but
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oh my god the show is pre-prepared whoa so i guess that's both of those topics
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basically let's slam on nintendo this is
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ridiculous um well it's is it nintendo who sets
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this probably a little bit of both wow no ad block installs what a good person
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i say to myself let's take a moment to describe how the
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nintendo switch works okay so the nintendo switch has under
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the kickstand there's an sd card slot and
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it doesn't have a ton of storage uh the the cartridges that you have for the
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games you can buy physical cartridges that's what i've been doing for a lot of them because i've been personally
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worried about the storage and i don't want to be toting around a whole bunch of these freaking micro sd cards because
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i don't trust them really um but there's some games i do believe that's right
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that you have to have an sd card that's right nba 2k18 yeah and i think that's
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going to expand is one of them um i think it's going to happen more and more
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as time goes on there's going to be games that require sd card space just
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like needing a rumble pack
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a little bit more imperative but yeah um oh man i actually missed rumble packs
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those were cool i liked being able to like i hate this thing
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some modern games i don't like it anyways um yeah so they have now made
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like it says on it nintendo switch it's an official nintendo switch sd card and
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it's ludicrously expensive this 64 gig
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one is 99.99 and i'm pretty darn sure that's three
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less the price yeah that's us yeah so a hundred us dollars for a 64 gig card
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it's three times the price the comparable like the exact same one from sanges sandisk with the same specs is 29
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that's really brutal ah and you can get ones that don't have the
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same specs for even cheaper than that like 20 bucks
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but your game's gonna load slower or whatever but yeah yeah
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that's that's so that's rough because
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what's essentially happening here is they're profiting off of
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like ignorant people yeah
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and like unfortunately a lot of it's gonna be like your mom buying you
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christmas presents yeah and she wants to get you like the switch
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odyssey and this and she's like oh my goodness
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this is way too much money i can't do this because where do you think in the store this is going to be on the shelf
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right next to it it's going to be the only one that's right beside the switch
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stuff right and a lot of places like like uh what's america gamestop we have
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eb games whatever i think it's gamestop though um there probably won't be
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another sd card yeah could be true the other thing that's really insidious about this is like
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they're using an open standard it's not like a ps vita that had like a
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proprietary type of right storage car yeah this is it's open
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to regular sd cards so when they designed the plot the switch they went
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with an open standard like awesome which is cool i do definitely and then it's
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like they got an email one day or like a call for some like greasy sales guy was
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like got an idea for that
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what if we just put link and mario on the box
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and just squeeze a few extra bucks out of those suckers who don't know that you
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can just use any old sd card yeah mom won't know what hit her uh i like okay
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so it's it's it's dirty that they're doing that it's dirty that they're
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charging so much more for it just to have the nintendo switch logo on it um
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but at the same time i guess i would still give them props for at least using
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an open standard because there isn't that many
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console type things or even portable type things that use open standards yeah
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that's sweet so like yeah try to help inform other people
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that you don't have to buy this so why do they do it then yeah i why well
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official nintendo switch licensed product things
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are like everywhere they have carrying cases they have like a little backpack
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thing that you can have they have tons of different stuff and you throw on the
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official nintendo like licensed by nintendo kind of deal except it's not
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licensed by nintendo it's just the logo um so it'll be made by someone else and
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then it tacks on a huge price because you have to give nintendo money for
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everything that you sell sure because you sold whatever but now then i think
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so sandisk is probably doing that type of partnership hey can we put your logo
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on it yeah we'll pay you per item okay cool and then marking up on top of that
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they must make money on top of that so they're going to have thicker margins on
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this than they do on their regular non-branded ones so the question is how
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much of that 99 is the nintendo license fee i have no
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clue you know probably a lot though come on apparently
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the 128 Gigabyte version is 100 so you could get twice the capacity
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for the same price yeah at the 64 Gigabyte range um the price difference
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between the two is a factor of three but going up to higher capacities that it
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drops down to a factor of two which would uh which is in line with our
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theory here that there's a fixed cost uh that doesn't scale up right that
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licensing cost is fixed so i choice in the chat is all pissed off because we're
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saying it's open so yeah there's patents and all this
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kind of stuff in the sd space what we meant by open i understand why you're upset but
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like come on dude is that you can use a bunch of different things what we're
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talking about is it's not like the like playing with playstation
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the old like playstation one memory card deal like you couldn't use a a thing
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that you could just buy from a bunch of different brands there's no competition it was all proprietary from that
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specific company that still counts as an open standard
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even though it was developed by like a consortium of different companies
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i think there's royalties they have to pay for
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it car licenses are imposed for manufacturer and sale memory cards and
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host adapters us one thousand dollars per year plus membership at us fifteen
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hundred dollars a year i don't know it's it's it feels open for the consumers
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because if i already owned a micro sd card i could just put it in there i don't have to have one from nintendo do
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you think nintendo knew that this was or do you think that i'm sure do you
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think nintendo's reading this and they're like oh no you guys you weren't
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supposed to do that no oh i i doubt that yeah i i honestly
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don't think nintendo cares at all um they put their logo on it they probably
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knew the price it was going to be i don't think it matters to them
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i'm i am very happy that they're using microsd and usbc for everything that has
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actually been awesome when i first bought it i only i had my pixel xl pixel
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1 xl whatever um and then this so i
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bought like some multi-packs off amazon usbc and it was just like basically
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everything i had is now usb-c it's fantastic i love it it's great
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you know what's really dumb pixel google pixel usbc
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the home mini micro usb really and yeah so stupid and
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they come in like such similar boxes and then now we have these here
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ah okay okay okay now we have the google
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pixel buds usbc yeah
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why why is there one i mean that's cool no this is sweet no yeah yeah they should
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just all bc why is there one product that doesn't like i could have just one
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chord like for all of them
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i'm assuming that i did i don't know and i don't think this is great but i'm assuming the
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thought process was that you're not plugging in and unplugging that true so
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you only plug it in once so it's annoying one time and then you leave it there and it's cheaper yeah i'm not
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gonna they don't want me to and i'm not going to unplug my home just to charge
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my headphones yeah but like yeah okay so you're saying it's cheaper it's
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cheaper to implement so yeah they can throw in a cheaper cable it's
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cheaper to implement they're like you just plug it in once you leave it there
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don't touch it i would rather that everything move to see but right now it
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is more expensive don't like it luke i agree but i like these these are sweet
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have you ever talked about those no i haven't i haven't seen them at all yet
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so i was researching these uh butt ton yesterday in anticipation of their
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delivery today um and the angle i'm looking at them is
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these versus air pods okay which that's fair ed has a pair over there
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oh yeah yeah that's right and Linus has he took them with him though
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probably but yeah this is a larger case than the airport
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pod case but uh it's still smaller than i thought it was gonna be and it's felt
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which is cool and it's a little magnetic kind of opening case okay
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it sounds nice yes it's cool i don't want to give the whole review right away
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right now but uh i think they look pretty cool they do look pretty cool
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i've been interested in these like again bluetooth earbud kind of dealies but i'm
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not gonna lie i've been looking at the apple once more
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my reasoning for that and i'm really interested in seeing the review on this actually oh that's kind of a cool
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charging mechanism he's crossing over that is pretty cool
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oh and they go in magnetic yeah
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release it's pretty nice release your hate okay so the one i do like about
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what i do like about the air pods is that their name yeah is that they drop
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down okay because i have an issue with earbuds just coming out of my ears ah so
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i have traditionally had to use the old style of india
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going everywhere i thought you were gonna say you didn't like the ones that went up and behind oh no i'm cool with
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those okay yeah it just is that what do these no okay no they have a cord
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they're neck buds i just learned that word i didn't that's a phrase yeah
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people call neck buds cool like because there's truly wireless like the airpods
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and like the braggy dash or whatever um but the ones that are connected like
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jaybird runs neck palms neck butts neck butts okay
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neato more on those uh next week
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yeah i'm gonna do a little segue do floor plane stuff
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oh my goodness floor plan speaking of seeing these next week they'll be on
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Floatplane first yeah they will Floatplane on tech cookie right now how to
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set up Intel optane cash i'm going to tell you right now that is a difficult
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process i legitimately think this video is going to be awesome i don't think
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you're going to be sitting there struggling how to install one right now and need that
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video so this might not necessarily immediately be a reason to buy flow
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plane because of utilitarian aspect but it's interesting and you might have to
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set one up in the future but that's your pocket book market yeah exactly that's
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evergreen heck yeah uh we built a freaking laser cutter it's performing
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super well right now tons of people watching that very interesting video
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we put in a door that i can't show you it's right here i can't show you just
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because i can't turn it it's right there it's it's a door
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it's it's way more interesting there's some people in the comments that are like people are getting way too worked
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up about this door it's a big deal there's a whole another like essentially
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building there and we had no internal access to it before it's very cool it's
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very cold here it is equity not for much
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longer yeah we're going to be doing some more work on that and there's video about that we have insane SSD raid setup
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that is bootable using samsung 960 pros
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uh iphone 8 versus gopro hero 6 black is
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that on youtube yet tomorrow tomorrow okay yeah so we're
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yeah so russia will get flow plane tonight do it
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can't watch that thing it's actually an interesting video because gopro has been
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in an interesting spot for a while because phone cameras are getting a lot
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better i did watch it it's good i assumed it was yours because you're in a
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fair amount of the b-roll stuff that happens yeah yeah that's a way to figure
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out who wrote the video by the way kind of a little cheeky trick
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ah that gopro though yeah
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can't give the video away it's interesting though
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um it's it's not even fair though because
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it's with false winter here and we're not snowboarding like just i would love
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to take it out surfing in hawaii just so our b-roll was as nice as some
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of the footage that's on their website instead of being like yeah here's a kind
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of rainy uh field buy our work yeah
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because like if you can just hold it there with your hand like this of course
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the phone's gonna do pretty well but and i know this was mentioned in the video
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one of the ways that gopro shines is you can just like stick it to something and
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it'll be okay yeah which is actually super cool um but
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a few years ago they were actually this might even be just like a misconception
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in my uh in my mind a few years ago like gopro hero 3 era
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which is when the iphone 5s was out i thought back then like gopro stomped
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it i remember when i first saw gopros i was like holy cow that's like the
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sickest footage i've ever seen so i went back and on youtube there's actually
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comparison videos between the three plus or three plus silver um versus the
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iphone 5s and they were pretty
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comfortable too all right i don't know yeah
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maybe maybe the idea of using your phone as a
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filming device is being more accepted now
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yeah well i remember that the first time i saw
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a monopod it was like at a music festival and someone put their gopro on
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the end of it and brought it to a music festival and i had a gopro and i thought like oh that's weird these things are
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action cams but now it's like trickled out to just bring it to a music festival
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and then after that that monopole started to be called selfie stick and
25:37
people put phones on them yeah so it's like it all like conceptually like the
25:41
technology is equal but conceptually it trickled down from one spot to the other
25:44
somebody pointed out when show used to get 10k viewers it does get less now on
25:48
twitch but it's also because we didn't announce uh this video on youtube
25:52
because of some reason that i don't remember because i'm gonna
25:55
i'm going to segue from that into the random stuff that was
25:58
sent to me this week so uh
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i was sent a five pound gummy bear
26:05
it's it's apparently the world's largest gummy bear and it was made in the usa
26:10
which is not not surprising um the version that i got is apparently sour
26:14
apple and i don't think i can eat it oh
26:18
it's it's 6 000 calories it was it was the the thing that hurts
26:23
too is it was sent to me for my birthday which like makes me want to
26:27
but then it's six thousand calories you have to have a gummy bear party man a
26:31
gummy bear party you're gonna have to slice it up into cubes and have a little
26:35
toothpick so this is the cake
26:38
i can put candles in it i'm just like
26:42
just mutilate a gummy bear for the cake that's fantastic it's 10 inches tall it
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weighs approximately 5 pounds
26:51
yeah this is the sour apple version and like this is
26:56
like did you guys see the mic stand move when i did that like you could you could
27:00
hammer nails with this when you first chucked it at me i was like holy that's
27:03
great yeah yeah that is girthy yeah imagine that coming out on a on a
27:07
platter and it's got one of these things and then there's like candles in the top and
27:12
you're serving it like a cake but not lying down like it's standing and you're serving pieces like
27:17
probably support its own way cutting pieces lengthwise
27:20
yeah like i i've tossed this to people every time someone catches it there's
27:24
like what the heck you don't expect it at first not only would it even if it
27:27
was like your favorite flavor for someone to dummy that in one sitting is
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impossible oh for you to open it it's 6 000 calories
27:35
three roughly it's four it's 1400 gummy bears worth of gummy bear for you to
27:39
open that and not finish it in one sitting but then want to eat it again later yeah it's
27:44
gonna be gnarly yeah like the part where your saliva touches
27:48
it's going to get all gross isn't it you can wrap on that thing nicely trapped in
27:52
there in its own little air bubble but the second this like aerates properly
27:55
things can get stuck to it yeah yeah hair on it some flies just be like
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i found the mother lode and not only that but it's sour apple
28:04
i feel like something that's so got a bite like that i can't do that
28:08
much of it apparently because i'm actually kind of down with sour apple but like
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oh max has opened the door you didn't see this guy in there and now
28:15
you know she's seen it you need it she wants us to eat it you want to help us
28:19
eat it really throw it and throw it over it
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no no you'll die on the laser cutter boom yeah that would that would not be
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good i don't know this this legitimately would take minimum six people i think
28:34
because at six people that's a thousand calories
28:37
phelps eats these that's what he takes in between
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trials between lapses
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one big gulp can you imagine if it was just in your stomach in one piece and
28:49
then your stomach acid was just trying to erode it from the edges it takes so
28:53
long you're like a snake you just eat like once every six months so what's the
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name of the website uh where that comes from so this is from well the the guy
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that sent it to me thank you very much this is from symless the guys that make
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synergy but this is www.giantgummybears.com
29:08
this is not an actual spot naturally not not a sponsor have you ever heard that
29:13
company big ass fans yeah there's they make these giant ceiling
29:17
fans that are like six feet in diameter and uh i remember when i first saw one
29:21
my friend was like yeah they got that from a place called big ass fans
29:24
it's like you don't say it feels the same with this gummy bear is
29:29
it a vegan gummy bear i have no idea no it's definitely not no no gelatin's made
29:33
from like ground up bones or something okay wow so
29:37
super naught that's what i would take that as anyways thank you thank you
29:41
simes i guess for that and then also someone sent me this shirt
29:45
which says heck yeah and then has a big l l on it which apparently i say this a
29:49
lot i didn't know that and then i said that to Jake and he was like you do you
29:52
say that a lot so yeah thank you that's a heck of a nice shirt yeah what's the
29:57
album oh it's a it's a luke yeah ah it's even in our colors yeah which is kind of
30:02
neat and there's a there's a black one too so i have both you should plot something on it like it's a graph
30:06
that's what i think of when i say oh my goodness yeah
30:10
like the crazy yeah is the yeah is the independent variable
30:15
yes absolutely as yago is on you can see heck is fluctuating
30:19
uh speaking of things that were sent to me this week facebook wants to send you
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nudes or wants you to send them nudes i said that the completely wrong way
30:27
around but yeah apparently facebook is advertising um that they can try to help
30:34
combat revenge porn which is which is good um but the way they want
30:39
to do it is kind of funky um so let me get the article up here one
30:45
of the things you get it yeah you get it but it's like but it's
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facebook so you're also like
30:52
i don't know let's just get into it here so
30:57
apparently the idea is that you send facebook the image and they make a
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let's see here where is it
31:05
messenger can send the images to be hashed this means that the company
31:09
converts the image into a unique digital fingerprint that can be used to identify
31:13
any identify and block any attempts to
31:17
re-upload the same image i guess probably only to facebook yeah
31:22
apparently they will take action yeah they will take action against pictures
31:26
that were posted to facebook instagram or messenger
31:29
so you can't like i guess the idea is like
31:33
some wonderfully nice lady sends a wonderful photo to boyfriend boyfriend
31:38
is a jerk bag sends it to bro and it doesn't work
31:44
on messenger if you even mess up even if you direct messages to someone that
31:47
doesn't work that's pretty sweet so messenger facebook in total and
31:51
instagram so honestly a lot of the ways that people message each other now don't
31:55
they own whatsapp too yes apparently they didn't include that so it's not
31:59
shown in this article anyway so the idea here and the thing that i like about
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this is that it's preventative yeah it's not reactionary they already
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have tools that are reactionary yeah or you can just report things then they'll
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hash them and make sure it doesn't go up again but this is totally preventive you don't even have to break up with someone
32:14
you can be like you know what i'm going to send you some nudes
32:17
and i'm also going to send them what you actually do is you send it to
32:20
yourself on messenger okay and uh right now it's being tested in australia and
32:25
yeah it's it's a partnership with some kind of governmental agency and you have
32:28
to fill out a form with this agency and then message yourself the picture the
32:33
agency contacts facebook so then i guess facebook checks then like sees that you
32:37
sent yourself a picture and then they hash it the thing that's what i wonder is like
32:41
do you get analytics like can you
32:44
can you try it you're like okay i'm gonna send somebody news
32:48
and then i'm gonna send it to facebook and then i'm gonna get a notification if
32:51
somebody tries to re-upload these nudes and then i'll know that son of a gun
32:55
didn't keep it to himself that would be super interesting actually
33:00
wow okay so apparently that's that's kind of
33:04
that would make a crazy game that's a great episode of seinfeld or something
33:08
or i don't know what what a game well because like just the like mental
33:13
gymnastics that goes around that because then like
33:17
i guess now the p the person receiving the nude whatever gender the person
33:21
receiving the nude now has to be super careful because someone could like ruin your
33:26
relationship if they got onto your computer levels levels yeah yeah if they
33:30
got onto your computer or your phone or something and sent it
33:33
to even just like themselves or some third party that has no idea what's
33:37
going on it would never even get there ah and then the person would receive the
33:41
notification oh and then the original sender could be
33:45
like you tried to sell you tried to send it you're like he told you
33:49
and you're like you don't know i'm not going to tell you and then you're and then someone's mad
33:53
at someone else like i'm mad at you for telling you that telling her that i sent
33:56
you this and they're like dude i didn't yeah right and it's just like this triangle and then someone at facebook's
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like i have brought doom to the world yeah
34:06
speaking of that is even better uh there this isn't just happening
34:10
algorithmically it's like there's actually an employee at facebook who's receiving and looking at your nudes
34:15
like so it's kind of like wait no it's what
34:19
no yeah there's an employee who does this what yes
34:23
it's in the notes here so it's it's almost like a utilitarian
34:29
type of thing like the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few like it's
34:33
harm reduction it's like okay one random at facebook is gonna see me naked but
34:36
that's better than anyone i know uh who's not authorized to see me naked
34:40
seeing me naked
34:44
i'm just imagining there's someone at facebook whose job it is whose job it's
34:47
been for years and years once facebook gets that notification a
34:52
community operations analyst will access
34:55
the image and hash it to prevent future instances from being uploaded or shared
34:59
so check this out i'm picturing there's a dude who's been working at facebook
35:03
for years on like their dick pic removal algorithm and his whole job is just to
35:07
like look at dick pics all day and one day they're like calm call he gets
35:11
called to the office like huh you wanted to see me sir it's like dude you've been
35:15
doing such a great job for so long we're gonna give you a little promotion
35:19
here now you get to look at mostly girls
35:24
yes
35:27
oh my goodness that's insane i thought it was automated
35:31
no how is it not automated why is it not automated yeah i think i
35:36
guess their image recognition technology isn't at the point where it can just
35:40
completely validate that these pictures are inappropriate well who cares well
35:44
what if i'm like ooh there's a picture of me where i don't like the way i'm
35:47
looking like my smile sucks so i'm just gonna report it and then it would never
35:50
get uploaded so
35:54
okay i think that that is better than like some random employee at facebook
36:00
seeing everyone what if it what if it's political what
36:03
if like there's a picture of politicians like kicking a baby um
36:08
political party doesn't want that to go viral so they go on facebook they upload
36:11
the picture first and report it and so like no one can ever upload this picture
36:14
and they hide the truth
36:18
oh yeah
36:22
man that's weird and like how do you avoid someone just putting like a weird
36:26
border around it so actually they've already figured that out okay so i
36:29
mentioned earlier that they had these existing tools that they were more reactionary than proactive yeah the like
36:34
the seed of that tool was invented by microsoft i think they eventually gave
36:38
it to other companies okay uh and in subsequent iterations they figured
36:43
out that people were actually just like cropping it and adjusting it and
36:46
uploading it again yeah so the tools sophisticated enough in its current form
36:50
too recognize that yeah
36:53
crazy yeah that's wild i didn't
36:59
that's weird what if you it's like you know i want to form a
37:03
relationship with this person on facebook and just like keep sending them
37:06
nudes you don't even send them to anyone else yeah you're like oh these are just
37:11
for me that would be plenty of writing yourself hey facebook person yeah just
37:15
everywhere i hope you're enjoying this how many nudes does this person send the
37:18
guy the person i faced was just like stop sending nudes to people like
37:23
we're on a first name basis here you want to hash this photo after hours
37:28
heck yeah like he just gets in in the morning oh oh i know these nipples
37:33
you again eh yeah there goes fred again
37:38
you know oh well speaking about something that's been
37:42
screwing with me and not in a good way assassin's creed origin drm
37:48
has been brutal you've experienced this for sam oh my god
37:52
i've been trying to stream it uh and i try to stream with h.264
37:56
so i'm already hammering my CPU okay and then this thing is just wrecked it and
38:00
okay one cool thing we need to back up yeah okay okay okay
38:05
that's fair assassin's creed origin drm
38:08
it has like two or three of them or something two let's it has two okay so
38:12
it has denuvo which is useless now yeah because it's been cracked by like
38:16
everybody yeah so in the summer denuvo was it took like one to two weeks for
38:21
hackers to crack it yeah uh but now it's like hours yeah so it's basically
38:25
useless so an assassin's creed don't need that they used de nuvo again but
38:29
they put a second layer on yeah okay called the vm protect vm
38:33
protect and it has been hitting people it says here tanking the game's
38:36
performance by 30 to 40 percent demanding that people have more
38:39
expensive CPU to play the game that's not entirely fair and this is actually the point that i
38:44
wanted to make that point's not fair yeah because that is a quote no i know
38:48
yeah um the reason why i'm saying it's fair is not fair is because you can't
38:52
even fully surpass it in my opinion unless you get something absolutely
38:56
ludicrous so okay i have a 5960x
39:00
okay and sli 1080s
39:03
i have must be nice way over the top system but like it
39:07
shouldn't i should be able to do whatever that's my point yeah i'm way
39:10
above so everyone's getting screwed by it this isn't like a more slightly more
39:14
expensive CPU like one step above no this is like a pretty ridiculous CPU and
39:19
i'm trying to stream but that's not that huge and one cool thing that aco has is
39:24
if you press f1 when you're in the game and i would recommend pressing it a second time you can bring up in-game
39:29
stats and it shows like each each core up to a maximum of 12 i believe and then
39:35
how each core is being used your GPU usage like all this kind of stuff in
39:39
game really nice little graph thing and it's not clear to people by this point
39:42
uh what we're saying is because of all the drm your CPU
39:47
tax core zeroed just gets crazy up to like between 60 and 90
39:51
percent at medium 1920 by 1200 medium oh i was getting CPU
39:59
core zero peaking at a hundred percent very often
40:03
and i'm running at medium 1920 by 1200 i have weird monitors don't worry about it
40:07
um and i'm getting like sometimes as low as 26 FPS totally if
40:14
i'm in a highly detailed area with like a torch which is like pretty brutal but
40:18
still 26 FPS medium not 4k
40:22
on that freaking on that yeah
40:25
like this is nuts and like yeah i i could stream with nvec but it's not it's
40:30
not as good it doesn't look as good the thing that's worst the worst part about
40:34
it uh just on principle is that this is a battle between game developers and
40:39
publishers on one side and then the cracking hacking computing uh committee
40:43
community on the other side and the people suffering in this case are the
40:47
people paying for the games yes they're collateral damage they're they're the
40:50
ones who are supposed to be um you know benefiting here and they're getting the
40:55
crappiest end of the stick i bought the freaking game man like i
41:00
it's so brutal like for the first i think two streams that i did with this i
41:04
just ran with the performance analytics which take up like a significant part of
41:08
your screen fully open the entire time just so that people could even i wasn't
41:12
even just like talking about the whole time i just wanted to show like look at what is happening to my computer
41:17
because my computer was struggling like it was fighting
41:22
it was hot in there well like i don't i don't think we ever
41:25
actually hit 60 really even at medium like it got up to like 50 high 40s
41:31
pretty often but what would you expect that to hit given your rig my rig is
41:36
ridiculous i should be able to hit 60. i'm not running 4k but that's my yeah
41:39
even on max though even on max even on max i should be able to hit 60 because
41:43
my rig is so insane some people apparently are even getting
41:47
the blue screen of death after like one or two hours of play so i have not
41:51
experienced that and i've played i think about 19 hours of the game so far i'm
41:55
not saying it's not no no no no no no what's your longest
41:58
session though uh probably four four hours and you're streaming too like
42:03
yeah that's that's pretty solid that's a lot of performance um i don't i don't
42:06
think it's super common but i have had the game crash uh when i was first
42:10
setting the game up and i was trying to tweak my settings because usually i just
42:13
go into a game set it to max settings and then dial back and then well not
42:17
even because my computer is so stupid my last computer that i had was a 2600k so
42:21
i made quite a big jump okay and at that point in time i would max settings and
42:25
dial it back for like all the games i'm playing recently it's like 1200 ps not exactly a
42:31
difficult resolution to run crank everything up i'll probably get about
42:34
60. everything's fine um this game no i had to dial back multiple times and in
42:39
doing that the game kept crashing at one point in time it wouldn't boot again
42:43
because it would load up and then just get to the main screen and then crash immediately and i don't remember what i
42:48
had to do to fix that but i had to like change some
42:51
file to like reset all my graphics settings and do it again it was it was
42:55
quite a mess so the natural question now is why why does vm protect make this
43:00
happen i think yeah okay so it's because that
43:04
in an effort to protect the other software like the game from being
43:07
reverse engineered and cracked it actually executes that software in this
43:12
case the game on a virtual machine it executes it on this virtual machine
43:16
with a non-standard architecture so that makes it hard to crack but i guess
43:20
just the act of virtualizing it is just so intensive yeah that it books your
43:26
whole experience and makes the whole act of buying the game
43:30
actually really annoying and like a big part of it what i've heard this i
43:35
don't know is that they fight each other too danuvo and vm protect yeah i know
43:39
that those two companies had some beef or like didn't get along like the software yeah like conflicts with itself
43:45
and as that's causing huge amount of issues but anyways i heard you say a key
43:49
word you said reverse engineer oh
43:53
sponsor spot oh my goodness
43:57
had to throw in the segway had to do it anyways i fixed it awesome awesome
44:01
sponsor of ours we've used their stuff since well before their response of ours
44:05
but now they like put cool embroidery on our things which is pretty neat um
44:10
one thing that Linus says all the time is that you can buy one of these things
44:13
this is the pro tech tool get tool kit the pro tech tool kit it is
44:18
59.95 it is a little costly but it comes with
44:22
a lot of different things including suction cups which can be helpful for taking screens off of things the 64-bit
44:28
driver kit i love this driver i use it all yeah the last one was x86 and this
44:32
is way better uh that was that was fantastic i used it
44:36
at twitchcon when i was building computers on stage and that was one of the uh it worked very well there
44:42
yeah fan of this this little spinner on this yeah because you can like palm it
44:46
and i'm doing it right now it's wonderful it's wonderful you guys got to
44:49
upgrade your resolution if you can't tell what's going on so satisfying sorry twitch um anyways
44:54
they're they're leading the charge in electronics repair you guys have
44:57
probably seen their website if you haven't check it out they have a lot of really really cool tear downs where they
45:02
tear down a device and they will uh
45:05
show how to do that how to put it back together give it repairability scores so
45:09
you can know what you're getting into when you buy something you know how repairable it is because once that
45:13
warranty's gone man i don't know they have over 25 000 free repair guides
45:19
on ifixit.com which is awesome they have stuff in here like esd safe tweezers esd
45:24
safe uh safety straps suction cups that i already mentioned
45:28
a lot of different jimmy tools tons of pokies lots these are freaking pokey
45:32
they're very pokey oh wow that's pokey those are quite
45:36
pokey you do some damage you could the ifixit home defense
45:41
oh my goodness um anyways they're pry tools these little blue i'm just gonna
45:45
get personal there for a second yeah these little blue uh pry tools are
45:49
awesome especially for apple devices they're super helpful for getting into
45:53
things that are clipped down and popping them off wonderful little kit anyways
45:57
59.95 go to ifixit.com
46:01
Linus um and and you're good this whole freaking
46:04
thing is magnetic too like you can you can just pop that off yeah boom yeah and
46:08
then the lid this is magnetic so it's a parts tray and then clips on there not
46:12
only that one of my favorite things to do is i take this whole thing out and
46:15
then i take the lid and put it down under the bottom and it actually
46:18
perfectly fits right there and it doesn't even come off that's one of your favorite things to do hey it is yeah
46:23
pop it on the bottom weekend yeah i just go home and i just do this i'm like oh
46:28
ah tgi that's what i needed
46:32
also what i needed for another segway was some savage jerky
46:37
you like that what's your favorite one have you had a lot of this stuff i've only had the most extreme spicy one oh
46:43
just let's let's chill for a moment let's have a chill stream let's have a
46:47
an audible chewing session oh for all the headphone users what what is that
46:51
called again is that a fetish oh yeah
46:55
oh that was a version of hell for me
46:58
does anyone i know who has that fetish we can't be we're friends off because
47:02
how can we ever get along not not just eating like doing lots of different
47:05
things maybe savage jerky doesn't want this in
47:08
there in their sponsor spot
47:11
maybe it's the niche they have yet to penetrate
47:15
this is getting bad this is getting very bad i like this jerky which is awesome
47:19
yes it is they have tons of different flavors this one is teriyaki my favorite
47:23
one i'm trying to get into right now but apparently i'm not savage enough i'll have to get there
47:27
um you are getting there do you see your beard length compared to the logo here
47:33
again working on it yeah i i should probably shave sometime in the next few
47:37
weeks but then it's it's so i needed to shave like literally on november 1st and
47:41
then everyone's like hey you're doing no shave november i'm like ah it looks like
47:45
i already did no shave october so i'm a little ahead of the game amish
47:49
december
47:52
no shave twist this stuff is very good try that
47:57
that's Linus's favorite one it's my favorite one oh cilantro it's really good do you okay
48:02
that smells good cilantro is very polarizing yeah but it's only like five
48:06
percent of the population or something that for whom it tastes like soap i'm
48:09
not one of those people okay cool i like it me too i'm a fan of mexican food
48:16
savage grunt they have 13 different savage flavors of
48:20
jerky people seem to love sriracha bacon that's been really popular
48:24
maple buffalo bacon probably popular in canada their traditional one is really
48:28
good moho is my favorite one and lance's favorite one
48:31
if you yeah
48:36
apparently that's how you supposed to pronounce it i said mode johnny for a long for the longest time what does the
48:41
j stand for jalapeno i'm pretty sure it's just a
48:45
word just not english oh yeah i thought it was like an acronym but the j for the
48:51
acronym was mex like spanish oh so it was moho oh
48:56
hahaha like yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't think that's it i'm pretty sure it's a
48:59
word ah i think twitch chat will uh will correct us
49:05
i'm gonna continue living in my reality because it's funnier i i got it from world of warcraft you
49:10
used to be able to you used to fight the trolls and then you'd pick up
49:14
i thought it was mojo and i thought it was powerful powerful mojo yeah exactly
49:18
so that that threw me off but anyways it's wonderful tastes amazing and you
49:22
get 10 off if you go to apparently the link is
49:27
g-e-n-i-u-s-savage jerky on youtube there will be a link down in the
49:31
description you get 10 off use offer code LTT
49:34
it's all good heck yeah and if you're like you did it you said it no
49:40
i'm doing it too much if you if you are able to start a
49:43
business around making shirts based on things people say you could use fresh
49:46
books to uh manage your financials
49:50
four seconds yeah freshbooks is a super simple
49:55
uh super simple to use invoicing tool that actually does a lot more to help
49:59
you create and send slick looking invoices super fast which is one of the
50:03
cool parts you can also use it to check if someone has seen their invoice which
50:08
is good because then you can follow up and be like hey buddy why haven't you
50:12
paid your invoice you looked at it yeah you've seen it and they're like oh
50:16
yeah no i didn't get your email it's like actually you opened it
50:20
so i don't know or you cannot be passive aggressive and just use it to track your
50:23
finances that would also be fantastic if you have any questions you can contact
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them reach out to their support staff and talk to a real person immediately no
50:31
phone tree no escalations no return calls you just talk to someone right
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away it's awesome i would highly recommend checking out freshbooks we use
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it on scrappy doors once and it honestly actually made the whole thing easier
50:42
which was pretty cool visit freshbooks.comwan enter when in the how
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did you hear about a section and you will get a free trial which is awesome
50:50
free unrestricted 30-day trial here we go remember the show orange
50:54
county choppers yes and that main guy had like a tattoo on his hand that said
50:58
like pay me yeah i think so the b word yeah
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i'm just imagining freshbooks has like a sticker like you can send to people
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there's a read receipt indicating that you have seen the invoice uh
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uh sticker yeah yeah they love stickers now
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okay let's do this one this one is juicy this one's all you you seem like you
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thought it's personal for you okay so logitech oh
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let me let me post this in the twitch chat scandalous i'm a boys what are you
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doing it's a scandal okay so
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oh i jumped ahead a little bit you did have this in there uh let's go here this
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is a bit of a little story there's a narrative arc when you do yeah elucidate
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here so i believe it originates from here is
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this the original it's most it's the most original i've
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seen okay yeah so it might come from somewhere else but whatever it
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originates from here harmony link eos or eol people are trying to figure out
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what's going on essentially
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let's go a little bit further back from what i've heard i have no actual
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proper source for this i read it on reddit that's a thing that you can do um
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apparently logitech was fire selling like selling at a very high discount
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harmony link devices not that long ago fast forward and people were happy about
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this that's fantastic fast forward four characters what is a harmony link
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harmony link is a universal remote for
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lots of things in your house like your tv your sound system your lights etc
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it's not uh enterprise product i do not believe so oh okay i thought it was that
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could be wrong regardless let me look this up real quick
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yeah a little quick uh google here how many likes
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oh hmm oh maybe it is
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maybe i'm wrong it looks kind of busy watch cable watch apple tv dinner time
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yeah that sounds like yeah yeah yeah
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so back to here give me a moment oh no that was the right page fantastic oh no
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it's the wrong page anyways uh that's a little bit of a spoiler so
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let's just jump to that anyways they decided that well hey let's let's use your thing
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actually the next step is is something i had no
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idea about logitech decided to shut down all
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harmony link systems because theoretically it would not renew a
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technology certificate license that expires in march 2018.
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so because reasons logitech's like we're no longer going to support not only
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we're not going to support we're actually going to just totally break
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brick this product um it's not like it's
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that old we were just selling them to people a couple months ago because we
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knew this was coming and we wanted to make a bunch of money uh now we're breaking them so if you own this thing
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no matter when you bought it you're just pooped and you they were giving 35
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discount to purchase a new harmony hub which doesn't have this issue and
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apparently uh it was a encryption certificate that if
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not renewed could leave vulnerabilities in the link system
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we should be a little more clear though it's like when they were breaking it um
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they notified people that if it was still under warranty you would be given
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a harmony hub but if you were out of warranty you would have to buy
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this this thing for a 35 i think the fire sale ones that i was
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reading they had a shorter warranty oh i think they were like refurb shorter
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warranty hell out of the warning i i don't know if that was all real though
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that was just reading in some comments that was not legitimate sources don't worry about that part consider all of
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that to be a rumor what did happen is they started bricking these things and
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they were giving harmony hubs to people that did have a warranty that was how that was working but i don't think it
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has ever happened where a large company has bricked
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something like this do you know i don't know of one getting
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a free harmony hub if you're under warranty was that a response to the
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outrage no that was off the bat no that was off the bat okay so what has now
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rage ensued yes outrage absolutely ensued this was huge on reddit one of
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the top posts blah blah blah people were super pissed off
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now after online outrage logitech will now replace harmony link devices for free
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regardless of warranty status
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so if you have one you're good uh striking crayon you can get a new
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harmony hub what if you don't have one can you uh understand
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i'm kind of wondering if you if you go by like that's the pr one it's so bad at
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this point if you just you just shake them
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give me a hug fine just take it take it shut up this is this is rough that like
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they shouldn't have done it in the first place but to give them some amount of credit this is the this is what
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this is the right response well it's interesting because
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it's an expensive response and this but this response is still cheaper than them
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just renewing this certificate do you know how much that would cost oh yeah so it were yeah it must have
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been cheaper i mean yeah otherwise expensive certificate
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the certificate company there's someone just rolling yeah
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rolling except they didn't get the the sale i guess
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so i don't know that's true you have to get money yeah so this is this is interesting uh
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i'm very uncomfortable with the initial response cause this has been a huge
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issue for me you mean the initial play from logitech yeah the decision to just
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brick because i one of the reasons why i hate devices that have to be connected
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to the internet is this uh the the ability for
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uh if someone has a gaming console for it to just be like well you can't play
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until you get this update yeah that's baloney yeah and what if you
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get that pushed before you're able to actually play or what if that's queued
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up like the system knows that you need an update in two weeks and then you go
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offline and then you can't update it anymore it's like brett i mean there's
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there are products that you know there's a risk assumed when you buy it because
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you know that it interacts with some kind of subscription service like yeah
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this is a security camera and
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the footage is hosted off-site and you have to pay every month for that and you
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you know like okay if this company goes under this camera is not going to work anymore that's a risk you're assuming
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when you buy it but when you're buying something
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when that's not explicitly stated at the at the time of purchase
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it's just like it's like a form of theft if they if they brick it later on
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yeah um so apparently
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yeah like this for example the nintendo miiverse
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closed down what is that it was like a i didn't
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actually really use it but i had a wii u so it had it connected i think it was
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like a social platform within nintendo you could like draw some things you
57:37
could talk to people so it's like have a hotel for your little mies that you
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create i honestly have no idea because i never did it you did it a lot didn't you
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i did i didn't i did see it because i didn't even know how because i was that
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terrible because all i did was play uh mario kart i played the crap out of
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mario kart and the thing is i would when i would go back to like the home menu
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there would be little dudes walking around on the home menu oh these baby
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bubbles they'd be speech bubbles and in the
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speech levels would be like crazy drawings and all this kind of stuff so i think that was coming from the me verse
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yeah so you could tell by just by the content of the speech bubble was that yeah user created stuff yes it
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definitely was so it was coming from somewhere so i'm assuming i think it was
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me verse just i don't know so what do they do to the mievers it's gone see ya yeah why and
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nintendo does that though they shut down services on platforms that aren't that
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old like super fast interesting and it's it's i was actually i was reading two
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completely different threads on two completely different parts of the internet at the same time that were
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talking about pretty similar things because it was reading about a three i guess
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technically logitech breaking their devices
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end of life we're just not going to do this anymore see you later um
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world of warcraft bringing classic back and
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the miiverse thing being shut down and it was three different companies approaches
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nintendo goes like okay this service on
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this device is no longer being supported it's being shut down you can still use
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the device you can still play your games but this like social thing or this store
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or whatever is being shut down and then logitech goes lol your device is pricked
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and then uh blizzard now they didn't have classic
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wow before but that's because they progress their game so you can still
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play custom games and stuff on warcraft 3
59:20
so there's some companies that are just like nope we're just going to we made
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this we're going to support it forever this is actually a good segue right now
59:26
for another topic where did it go
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speaking of blue you look like you have something to say no you're just hanging out sounds good this one
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yeah okay so this is pretty neat this is this is uh i guess
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a similar starcraft 2 goes free to play
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after being out for a surprising amount of time seven years good lord yeah
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i thought it came out like two years ago it's still a new game it's still a new
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game in my books it's like oh yeah like the third expansion like just came out
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like i said third expansion
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yeah but i stopped playing when hardcore came out
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the second expansion yeah yeah but third part
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yeah that's a lot of expansions for a game though but it's one game
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do you still play starcraft two no i but you heart of the storm yeah that's right
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yeah when i read this though i was like ooh we should get it though we should
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all get it like we should all play here i shouldn't go home this weekend land
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parties on the casper it's i love starcraft
60:25
manchester it's pretty cool blizzard will continue to make money off of
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starcraft 2 by selling co-op commanders
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additional single-player campaigns at 15 each or 40 dollars for a bundle of three
60:39
and other premium upgrades like announcer packs i know they have like a
60:42
total biscuit announcer pack and some other ones uh special skins and war
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chests
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so that's what cost money but what's free is you can download starcraft to
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like the original wings of liberty campaign totally for free if you in the past
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bought wings of liberty like me you can get hard to swarm for free
61:05
does that keep going because i have the first two and not the third one oh no i
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think i bought the third one never mind uh if you purchased an expansion pack
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previously like if you bought heart of the swarm before then you will get uh
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ghost skin and some other swag three new portraits okay those kind of things i
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don't know if they're gonna give you uh don't care legacy avoid but when you i
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think i have legacy of void anyway the thing is it's you're really only talking
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about the campaign because you get to download the single player
61:31
campaign for wings of liberty but it gives you access to multiplayer and on
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multiplayer it's the full multiplayer with ranked matches then it's all the
61:39
units from all the expansions but they did something kind of cool
61:42
they didn't want these people who just downloaded starcraft to be able to do
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these ranked matches because people who are ranked can just light up these noobs
61:50
all the time they wanted people to have some experience when they got to the ranked play so they make you play
61:56
um not a set number of matches but you have to play against either ai or an
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unranked match on 10 different days like 10 different wow yeah 10 separate days
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10 like separate play sessions i guess
62:09
and i think a lot of that will have to do with trolls as well
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because if you make someone like power up an account essentially for 10 days
62:18
that's a lot of work to troll someone ah and a lot of like
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because i i think it's a little bit of both there's definitely the you're protecting people from getting just
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stomped off that's what they stated they had a little quote here
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um our way to preserve the quality and integrity of the ranked experience well
62:36
i guess that could apply to both sides of the coin that's what i'm kind of saying yeah and like that's it's a huge
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issue for a lot of games and it's a reason why a lot of free to play games
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have some sort of time barrier in front of being able to hit ranked play is
62:48
because people that are just going to blatantly use hacks even if they just get banned immediately if they don't if
62:53
they can just regen accounts all the time and they don't care then it doesn't
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matter and they're just going to hack and screw with people get banned in an hour even who gives who cares um then
63:02
there's just trolling the hell out of people stream sniping whatever else is
63:07
going on i got i had flashbacks i saw the
63:11
screenshots these colossus just ripping up the marines there i was like oh dude
63:16
four base carriers hit me up i got you are you protoss yeah
63:20
ah protoss through the grave ah are you protesting too that deserves
63:24
a high nice yeah i like it toss my brother brother cold
63:29
sc shout out used to cast starcraft not
63:32
for real yeah it was awesome day nine is like one of my favorite dudes i watched
63:36
wcs in korea it was amazing oh that's weird we have a little bit
63:41
yeah we have a little bit of starcraft blood in our family oh that's sick man i
63:44
used to watch husky yes hussy starcraft age of the husky
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husky yeah yeah
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anyways we are that that's that's that's sort of it is there anything else you
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want to talk about uh let's do a little bit about twitter getting 280 for
63:57
everybody yeah okay so that's actually been really successful
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you really i don't like it why because
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the requirement for you to essentialize and boil down your point
64:09
into this little art form of 140 characters was the only differentiator
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between twitter and facebook now it's
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just rants it's just gonna you can just make a giant rant a wall of
64:20
text i mean it's still limited it's still 280 it's not huge but like
64:24
i liked i liked writing something out and being like huh okay how can i shave
64:27
20 characters off this and and getting it down to just this little snap that
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was awesome i don't really know why people wanted it
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to be bigger i would have really appreciated
64:38
even okay so what i really wanted
64:42
was for tags to not count
64:47
that's one thing that really bugged me and a link
64:50
like one link url link shouldn't count that's true and
64:56
like those two things would just destroy my character accounts all the time
64:59
and like you get into conversations where more people keep on joining and
65:03
then you want to reply and your reply button it's like
65:06
40 characters left it's like just because i want to continue the
65:09
conversation i only get 40 characters like that that started getting
65:13
ridiculous and then they said they were going to fix that well this is a fix to
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that in a way yeah it is sort of um and
65:19
not just that and then even with those fixes i would have liked
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even like 10 or 20 characters more i hear where you're coming from 280 is
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kind of a lot i actually went to go tweet out a thing someone asked me a
65:31
question and i wanted to sort of rant it a little bit so i decided to fill out
65:35
the character thing without realizing that we now had 280 and i was like i'm
65:38
gonna rant these points then i'm like oh wow i have half of this left i wanted
65:43
this to be punchy but full yeah now punchy but full is like huge
65:47
yeah and it changes some of the mentality because you're like okay that's half of what this guy had to
65:52
respond he that isn't the most packed he could have made that message because he
65:56
had twice the capacity left yeah it like dilutes the whole platform because
65:59
before because everybody's just like snappy now i'm getting a little bit more
66:03
on your side i'm not like i'm not my best self on twitter now i can just like
66:07
see out of twitter but before
66:10
i had to like you know
66:14
the point's been made we know yeah you get it anyways we'll see you guys later
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thanks for tuning in to the lan show uh the links in the description uh
66:22
everything's cool uh tune in next week uh oh oh oh i almost forgot my own
66:28
announcement not this weekend but next weekend i'm going to be doing a big
66:32
24-hour charity stream uh i'm going to be doing the same thing i did last year
66:37
but with slight changes on what games will be played so i will be playing a
66:41
game starting with 1990 so i'll be playing a game from
66:45
1990 and then play that for one hour and then the next hour play a game for 1991
66:50
next to our game for nineteen ninety two that's the six hour game for 1993 and
66:53
just climb through the ages i do one of these every year for my birthday to
66:57
raise a whole bunch of money for extra life uh come by hang out have fun tell
67:01
your friends uh talk to me talk to the chat watch
67:04
some really cool games i only play each game for an hour so you don't like it just are you gonna have a company back
67:09
you should have like an album from 91 playing an album from 95. that's super
67:13
cool i would get audio blacked immediately but only for the vaude i
67:17
guess so i could do it for the live viewers that'd be sweet i'm not uploading the vod anywhere that's that'd
67:21
be so cool because then you could scrub through it and be like oh he's in grunge
67:25
like and then oh whoa system of a down exists now that could be pretty cool uh anyways yeah i'm
67:30
totally gonna be doing that i know game day was last weekend but i do extra life
67:35
funding the entire year round so i don't really care about game day so get off me
67:40
boom get conked yeah but anyways uh yeah
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come on by hang out it's gonna be fun next weekend starting saturday at about
67:47
noon so let me look at the date for that
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uh
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i'm doing nothing i'll be at home heck yeah 18th to 19th saturday at noon
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the chat or something either twitch.tv luke underscore lafr come by next
68:06
weekend um donate some stuff to extra life and
68:10
if you can't donate some stuff to extra life that's also cool just come hang out
68:13
show up virtually yeah laser dreams will be there yeah is your twitch handle
68:18
laser dreams no but i should change that's amazing
68:22
you know what that's from like no the laser cutter came with these crazy
68:25
superhero sunglasses like for blocking the lasers and i wore them on the last
68:28
band show that i was on and then people they dubbed me laser just in the
68:32
comments holy cow actually i'm so stupid i changed my handle recently i should
68:37
have made it laser james i'm fired
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anyways show's over we're gonna play the intro again thanks guys yay
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can we get more luke james streams yeah kick line is out
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have some fun mutiny
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fired
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lj hired
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okay bye buddy yeah