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The WAN Show - Windows 10 the LAST Windows & Apple Anti-Competitive?? - May 8, 2015

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2016-05-06 · 17,800 words · ~89 min read

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0:00 my friends and welcome to the WAN Show the

0:05 restaurant that's not even relevant a

0:09 joke isn't just supposed to be random this is not Family Guy this is the WAN

0:13 show this is a much better show there was a TJ Fridays in uh Norway and that

0:18 was weird that is kind of trippy yeah why

0:22 would there be a TJ Fridays I would think it would be like I I can't even I

0:26 I don't even know what language they speak in Norway Norwegian it's they they

0:30 have a language it's like a slightly different version of yeah oh

0:34 interesting anyways we have some pretty interesting call outs which lonus is

0:38 going to start I guess or not yeah right

0:42 so uh good old G excuse me uh Gog

0:45 they're not good old games anymore cuz they have like Witcher 3 coming out on

0:49 it soon or something uh they have their own launcher so they're looking to go up

0:53 against steam as opposed to being a place where you can buy like you know

0:57 Hugo's House of Horrors um Microsoft is

1:00 calling Windows 10 the last version of

1:03 Windows which either means they've uh kind of decided okay that's it we've

1:08 made enough billions of dollars we're going to pack it in we're all going to retire we're going to take all the cash

1:12 divvy it up between all the Microsoft employees and B I mean can you imagine

1:16 if a company the size of Microsoft did that they just like y dissolved

1:20 overnight you know what you know we're done let's just let's just you know what

1:25 you know Apple for example let's say apple decided you know what we've got

1:28 $80 billion in the bank it's more than

1:31 enough money for the we make every single one of our employees even like

1:35 store level janitors just not have to work for the rest of their lives yeah

1:38 that's enough I mean we we earned this forget it we don't need a Beats by Dre

1:43 streaming service anymore I mean forget who cares let them you know get their

1:48 music somewhere else which is actually a topic we're going to talk about later but you go ahead anyways Nintendo is

1:53 looking into mobile games or potentially looking into mobile games which is

1:57 interesting and our last call out isn't even really a call out it's a whole

2:02 topic anyways Tesla is selling used cars and they're selling them by region so

2:06 that's pretty cool and the whole topic dang it you gave there was one piece of

2:11 the topic left then and you ruined even that well you could technically buy it

2:15 from a different region but the store you search by I haven't fired you in a

2:19 while so I look for like Vancouver and then you see that there's like a 5%

2:22 discount and now you're even you're elabor you're elaborating on the one

2:28 little piece of information that they were missing from the announcement video

2:31 it's because it's Tesla I can't like I can talk about this for too long but

2:36 this is the WAN Show so we have potentially more interesting topics to

2:39 talk about potentially intro it

2:44 worked yeah I tested I think it's like lagging

2:48 though is anyone even

2:54 watching yes oh okay good

3:02 I know twitch at some point they're going to fix sorry oops um uh sponsor

3:07 Linda learn things fresh books yeah

3:11 account for things yeah mop buy things buy things

3:16 with the money that you made so you learn stuff start your own business and

3:20 run the accounting for it and then buy stuff with the money that you made from

3:23 this this is a highly disturbing Trend that I'm seeing from you is trying to

3:27 tie all of our sponsors together and then no seriously if you tie in Dollar

3:31 Shave Club as well you can look professional throw them off an integration

3:36 Cliff that's what you're doing you're drowning them all you're throwing them

3:40 in the water all drowning them all in success can you imagine that would be a

3:44 great Channel Super Fun swim while tied

3:51 together you we have to do it in a pool that we wouldn't die in yeah yeah yeah

3:54 yeah yeah yeah we'd have to have like like you'd have to have kind of oh I

3:59 don't know what you'd have to do you'd have to have like ropes tied to you that

4:02 people at the side can like literally pull you right out of the pool if like

4:05 something we could put like carabiners on them so you could disconnect from people if it really became bad yeah yeah

4:10 but like so you make teams right and

4:13 each team has to choose the way that so

4:17 okay okay okay so like if you're going to do the butterfly or whatever yeah so you do multiple Heats right so each team

4:23 gets to choose so let's say we have three teams right we got seven people who work here someone's going to have to

4:27 operate the camera so you got three teams teams each team gets to choose a

4:31 way that everyone has to be tied together oh my God so you do three Heats

4:36 oh no right so you can swim however you want I guess yes but if team L for

4:43 example says okay you have to be tied

4:46 together at the waist side by side then

4:50 everyone has to do that oh my God we can have Team L because we have two L's team

4:53 n because of two uh n's and then team T

4:58 because of a t and an

5:02 e you're determined to ruin this show today aren't

5:06 you sorry that actually sounds hilarious and we should probably do that so why

5:10 don't we kick off with some Community announcements we'll have to find a pool

5:13 that'll let us film at it I was trying to take a picture of my son at his

5:17 swimming lesson and they were like no no no no no and I was like oh yeah I guess

5:21 I I get that cuz like oh yeah it's a

5:24 camera and stuff but like I was clearly

5:28 like part of a pool can you do can you

5:31 rent a pool I think so you because I think you can book a pool just like you

5:34 can book like a movie theater I okay you

5:37 know we should look into it it sounds like an expensive super fun I think

5:41 super fun is probably going to get to the point where we're going to start to

5:45 rely on something like patreon for it because quite quite frankly we haven't

5:50 figured out how to monetize it we just lose money on it we lose money every

5:54 time we do it cuz it's fun and because we like it and because we think you guys

5:58 like it yeah like there's a lot of reasons we do it but money is not is not

6:03 one of them like lonus Tech tips straight up is the swimmer with Channel

6:08 super fun tied to it and like swimming

6:11 in the opposite direction because even something like buying the life-size

6:16 soccer ball thing that I was rolling around inside for the upcoming video

6:20 which is going to be fun by way say most people don't know about that yeah that's

6:23 coming if you follow on Instagram you'll have seen a picture of the ball even

6:27 buying that ball it's like 60 bucks that's more we're going to make on

6:30 Google AdSense on that video to be completely Frank with you guys and then

6:33 the whole company was out for like two hours I think plus someone's going to

6:38 spend four or five hours editing the stupid thing like that's that's the

6:41 amount of money that we just throw in a fire every time we make a childan super

6:45 fun video but I think that if we did

6:49 like patreon funding for it where we kind of went okay every time we make a

6:53 Channel Super Fun you guys played you know two bucks or five bucks or whatever

6:56 I I haven't looked that closely into patreon they've contacted me been like

6:59 why don't you use patreon I was like well because we run a lot of advertising

7:03 on our content and I think we do a video every day so if you're contributing per

7:07 video that be yeah so unless people are like patreon contributors for like 50

7:11 cents they're going to feel like we're like giving it to them pretty hard and

7:14 people already give us monthly contributions we already have a mechanism for that which keeps our our

7:18 website afloat and you know pays for the much more expensive servers that we have

7:23 now compared to the one that was running off a test bench in the office at NC but

7:29 us that for a little while yeah oh it was awful it was bad it was really bad

7:34 we have like a real server and a real data center now and we have like real

7:38 monthly software package subscriptions that keep the whole thing running

7:41 smoothly it's amazing it's great um anyway I think something like that could

7:45 make sense but uh yeah we'd probably need need you guys to help with her or

7:49 something cuz I'm thinking the cost of like booking a pool for a couple hours

7:53 we need to do something like that it's not going to be cheap yeah um okay so

7:58 why don't we move into our first topic of the day and we can do that as soon as

8:04 I plug in my HDMI cable and we didn't

8:08 sincerely hope that it works otherwise blue screen oh I am not hoping for a

8:14 blue screen we're actually we're plugged into the black magic intensity right now

8:17 oh dear yeah so that blue screen legitimately straight up could straight

8:22 up happen so our first topic is why Microsoft is calling Windows 10 the last

8:28 version of Windows the original article here is from The Verge look at that why

8:33 is the webcam oh right here last week um

8:37 so why Microsoft is calling Windows 10 the last version of Windows now to be

8:41 clear the joke we made earlier about

8:44 maybe they're just packing it in and they're going to give all the money to

8:48 all the employees and tell them to retire um that is not what is happening

8:52 instead it's going to be um I mean there's been Rumblings of Windows as a

8:56 service for a long time now but that

9:00 there's no confirmation necessarily that that's what we're looking at here but

9:05 what Microsoft is saying is that Windows 10 is going to be the end of the of the

9:11 huge monolithic Windows releases every 2 to three years and the beginning of much

9:17 more Nimble rapid updates and not

9:20 necessarily to the OS as a whole or even

9:24 as a piece of

9:27 software cuz an OS is not a whole

9:30 oh but even to just individual

9:33 components of it so for example they could um they could update something

9:37 like Xbox or they could update uh you know mail for example and they could

9:43 continue to evolve the functionality of the OS with smaller updates over time

9:47 and now they have set a precedent now

9:50 for Windows 8.1 users getting or Windows

9:53 8 users getting the update to 8.1 which I still maintain was not a new OS I I

9:58 don't even understand why they called it anything other than eight service pack

10:02 one anyway even 8.1 just have have the

10:05 message and be like service packs are gone now it's a decimal point that would

10:09 have been fine I would have understood that like why do we insist on just

10:14 insisting it's a different operating system but there's an update to it so

10:19 the like no just stop anyway Windows 10 though they're offering a free update

10:24 and I guess you can also roll up to Windows 10 from 8.1 and you can even

10:28 revert it which is not the same as any pack I've thought that was awesome

10:32 anyways um so Windows 10 is has is the

10:35 first time we've seen them roll out a major update for free so I guess the the

10:42 question here is are we going to see 10.1

10:46 10.2 um is that is that just hilariously

10:50 close to Apple's OS 10 with iterations

10:55 um is is that what they're going that actually just occurred to me that's

10:58 pretty funny yeah it is every operating system will now be 10 Android

11:04 10 mem and N I wonder if they'll just get

11:10 rid of not a desert public naming like everyone else seems to be doing with

11:14 everything which is like not okay with Hardware but anyways I wonder if that

11:19 just get rid of public naming because eventually if they keep iterating like they did with eight so 8.1 and then keep

11:24 going on from there they'll eventually run out of numbers uh like they actually

11:28 ran into with Windows n where their internal software stuff went above the

11:33 and there's stuff that they could have done and like apple ran into when they

11:36 ran out of cats no really yeah that's why it's

11:40 yanity they ran out of interesting cats

11:44 I mean they could have gone with like you know os10

11:48 Tabby but but I don't think anyone would have

11:51 been that impressed Quil like knitting

11:57 needles oh or when you buy like when you

12:00 buy the entire ecosystem then you can you get like an a free upgrade to OS 10

12:05 cat lady comes with a cat sweater and and a

12:11 cat bed which they won't use and it comes with four cardboard boxes which

12:15 they will use that's right um what are

12:18 we even talking about anymore I don't know we were talking about Windows 10

12:21 right okay so yes it's unclear how Windows has a service like if you were

12:26 to have to buy a subscription for it will play into this um it's unclear if

12:30 they plan to monetize it through the App Store if they plan to finally do a way

12:35 better job of that which is what would be required for them to monetize Windows

12:40 through the App Store in any meaningful way um I I personally am kind of looking

12:45 at it as like okay well maybe we also thank you to Lord sparklebottom yes for

12:51 posting that topic um you know I I can I

12:54 can see them not necessarily charging for Windows but kind of subsidizing

13:00 Windows development with one drive your one drive subscription and with your

13:05 Office 365 subscription but it seems like you're so far away from that and I

13:11 would personally rather be able to use whatever version of those Services I

13:15 wanted and have it integrated so that I could easily do that and just pay for

13:19 Windows I mean the fact that Office 365

13:22 stubbornly insists that I use one drive for cloud saave means that I just

13:27 straight up don't don't use cloud save because one drive is just not as

13:33 convenient for me to use as Dropbox and and so we do use cloud saave we just use

13:38 the local file manager to save it into the Dropbox folder in instead of the

13:43 nicely integrated Cloud saave feature which should be open to everything which

13:47 exactly I can't I can't I like I even

13:50 paying for that yeah I am paying for Office 365 so if I decide I want to use

13:55 a different cloud storage service you know what I should be allowed to I

14:00 should be allowed to use Apple's cloud storage if I feel like it so so yeah I

14:04 mean I I guess unless they can find a way to make everything so neatly and

14:10 beautifully integrated that I don't even want to use anything else then then sure

14:14 we're a long way away from that but there's little stuff that Microsoft just

14:18 still doesn't get like um someone thought it was hilarious to sign up my

14:22 Hotmail account for uh they used one of those I mean it's not like this is

14:26 exactly a new prank but they used one of those pages where you can sign someone

14:29 up for like daily Inspirational Bible verses and you can uh sign people up for

14:36 like boatloads of them at once very conveniently with sites like this so um

14:41 I don't actually monitor the email account so I didn't realize until I

14:46 fired up an old smartphone that I haven't used in a long time that happens to be logged into that account and I was

14:50 watching a video on it and I was hearing notifications like every 5 or 10 seconds

14:55 and I was like what's going on that's kind of weird like what what where what

15:00 where are these even coming from and so I finally figured it out that Hotmail

15:04 address had 55,000 unread emails in it

15:08 and um so compared to Gmail where that

15:11 would be really simple I would create a

15:15 search for a domain I would go at this

15:19 contains create filter apply filter to

15:22 all previous conversations I would press one button and everything would be gone

15:27 for Hotmail they have a feature called sweep so you highlight a message you

15:31 press sweep and then it deletes and you

15:34 can select block feature messages but only that exact matching email address

15:40 and I'm sitting here going why L of these aren't going to match why yeah a

15:44 lot of them aren't going to match because content filters that's why I

15:47 don't have uh 15,000 emails from CES

15:51 every year yeah because of content filters filtering is is not just good it

15:56 is absolutely necessary I mean it's not like I'm saying that Gmail is perfect in

16:01 fact is this ever going to load there we go okay so I think I can screen share

16:07 with you guys right now should be fine yep all that looks fine okay yep I'm

16:13 going to screen share with you guys so I mean there's stuff like this that drives

16:17 me crazy about um oh you know what I'm going to no I am going to make sure of

16:21 something before I go ahead and start typing so um no no that's fine um so you

16:28 know like

16:32 um okay well you know what forget it there's a

16:37 couple things that Gmail does that drives me crazy like if you do a search

16:40 in the top bar in Gmail for just the sending domain it doesn't work and it's

16:46 just like really I can't just search for

16:49 keyword NVIDIA and have that bring up anyone who emailed no it has to actually

16:54 contain NVIDIA in the body of the email another thing is oh wait no could be

16:59 wrong hold on no maybe it's when I start searching for no no that's fine uh maybe

17:02 it's right yes that's what it is when

17:06 you uh when you start typing in the address bar you can't just type the

17:10 domain so if I just type NVIDIA it doesn't bring up a list of all the

17:14 people that I've corresponded with who have an email NVIDIA.com and I'm kind of

17:18 sitting here going why how is it possible that it doesn't

17:24 search the entire email address field

17:28 for or something like a keyword like that that all time so there so there is

17:32 stuff that drives me absolutely bananas another one that drives me crazy is I email myself a lot and if I type in and

17:38 this this is a funny one if I type in

17:42 lonus at it still doesn't come up with

17:47 my own email address it still populates

17:50 with a bunch of other people that are also on my company domain before my own

17:55 apparently if you go from colon NVIDIA it works but that's just that's stupid

17:59 why should I have to do that so yes I'm aware that you know I can go on Google

18:04 and I can go you know site colon blah blah blah and there are ways to yes use

18:09 search tools much more powerfully but I really shouldn't have to do something

18:13 that obvious so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic here what is our

18:19 next topic Apple wants to kill free music streaming apps like Spotify and

18:24 beats rech posted by tangra tangra

18:27 tangra article here is also from The Verge I don't know whether or not tangra

18:32 is like the the little fast uh like

18:36 monkey enemy who's like Speedy or or like the

18:41 the tangra like the big beastly enemy oh

18:44 I'm going to go with irritating yeah irritating little yeah I'm going to go

18:47 with monkey enemy okay yeah um so

18:51 Apple's apparently pushing music labels to kill free Spotify streaming ahead of

18:57 the Beats Rel launch so this picture is

19:00 from uh the is the famous picture of

19:04 some super not hip dudes with at least

19:08 one dude who is allegedly fairly fairly hip and with it so to speak I wouldn't

19:14 personally know much about the subject but that's from the acquisition of Beats

19:18 Audio by Apple the single largest acquisition they've ever made and the

19:22 Rumor the word on the street streets oh

19:29 was that it wasn't about the headphones it was rather about the beats music

19:34 streaming service that Apple wanted to you know sort of get into that business

19:39 of and sort of Leave Behind the more traditional iTunes model where users buy

19:44 individual songs or they buy albums so they they they wanted a competitive

19:48 streaming service now it is now known that Apple does intend to relaunch that

19:53 streaming service and the sort of the the Spotify is already speaking out

19:58 about Apple's business tactics for making sure that it doesn't have any

20:03 free competitors so apple is apparently

20:06 pushing record labels to influence them

20:09 and to influence their artists to remove

20:13 the free options remove their music from free options like spotify's ad supported

20:19 streaming service so which has to be one of like the least surprising things

20:23 pretty much ever um Taylor Swift has actually come out publicly I think this

20:27 was a number of months ago but I can see if I can find the quote uh when she

20:32 pulled when she didn't put her new album on Spotify and I think actually pulled

20:37 her entire back catalog yeah I think her

20:40 stuff is still on Google Play music I don't have a Spotify account so I can

20:45 actually um I can check that one but I I can't verify yeah so here's the here's

20:50 the article on the breakup with Spotify let's go ahead and so this is from CNBC

20:54 evidently she's got a good quote in here where basically the long and short of it

20:59 is there she is she's got lipstick on she's Taylor Swift that's very

21:02 interesting um but the long and short of

21:05 it is you know music should have a should have a value um we shouldn't be

21:10 treating it like it's free so people should pay for it and I want to protect

21:14 the users that spent you know $22.99 or

21:18 whatever it is they spent on the album from feeling like they got a raw deal

21:21 because someone else can listen to it for free if they're willing to put up with some advertising which sounds all

21:26 you know fine and good except that we all know what it's really about come on

21:30 now um and I mean that's fine it's not like

21:36 we're not also about making money for making our content it's just you might

21:39 as well at least be honest about it should just say I pulled my music off of

21:44 Spotify because yeah so shake it off so

21:47 her latest album is still not on Google Play music either so she's reserving it

21:50 for the album but her back catalog I believe still is available on a paid

21:54 service Google play music um so yeah you might as well just be be honest about it

21:58 is but that is a direction that I can definitely see more artists getting on

22:04 board with is hey you know what let's get people back in the habit of paying

22:08 for music maybe it's less but maybe it's

22:11 at least something the hard thing here

22:16 is that there will pretty much always be a service if someone wants your music

22:20 for free there will pretty much always be something whether it's YouTube or

22:25 something else well apparently Apple's putting Apple's putting pressure on

22:29 labels to remove free YouTube streaming as well which is also ad supplemented so

22:34 so the the idea is moving away from ad

22:38 supported music and I I know that you don't mean YouTube I know what you mean

22:42 and we might as well just speak frankly if it is too difficult for someone to

22:46 get the music in a way that they perceive is free or if you remove a

22:49 convenient option like Spotify cuz let's face it cuz buying buying music in

22:54 Canada is brutal like it actually is it sucks buying an album is really actually

23:00 difficult to do cuz most of the album stores don't really exist anymore or in

23:03 very crappy quantities and getting an

23:07 actual album is often not available you can't just buy the mp3s off of Amazon

23:12 remember I wanted the uh Arctic Monkeys A&M album yeah I do remember that and

23:17 someone in the States ended up buying the mp3s and being like I won't ever

23:21 listen to them so they're kind of yours here and gave them to me and I was like

23:25 uh it's like we haven't actually we haven't actually done this correctly but

23:30 I don't know how to tell you this is wrong because it doesn't feel wrong does

23:33 it no um so I don't know so anyway

23:37 stupid um so Spotify currently has 60 million users only 15 million of them

23:42 however are paid users and the beat streaming service is expected to be full

23:46 of exclusive content um the new

23:50 streaming service is expected to debut at WWDC in June what is WWDC um

23:55 worldwide developer conference oh and I

23:58 guess that's pretty much all there is to say about it I I think we got to do like

24:01 a Twitter Blitz or something for this so we talk about oh oh oh yes yeah like I I

24:05 want to because I want to hear from you

24:09 guys will you I first don't tweet me yet

24:13 because I'm I haven't told you what to tweet yet I want to hear from Spotify

24:17 users I want to hear from paid and free

24:21 Spotify user specifically so I I do subscribe to a streaming service I don't

24:26 qualify if you're a paid Spotify user I

24:29 want to I want to hear what you think about artists locking into exclusivity

24:35 deals with particular streaming services because for me personally a big part of

24:40 the argument for me paying a monthly subscription to you know use my stupid

24:44 data plan to listen to all of my music which I'm also paying for a huge part of

24:49 the argument is that it's a One-Stop shop I don't want to start subscribing

24:53 to Google Play music for my Taylor Swift and Spotify for my redot Chili Peppers

24:59 and beats music for my whatever cuz all of a sudden now we're adding up to maybe

25:03 I'm spending $25 $30 a month well hold on a second well I could just be buying

25:08 MP3s at a dollar a pop the old way for

25:12 what I'm now paying for a streaming service and arguably streaming services

25:16 do have a value I find the discoverability of new music is great

25:21 through a streaming service because I'll hear all kinds of stuff it never would

25:24 have even occurred to me to look for before but if all of a sudden I have to

25:28 subscribe to a bunch of them that's just that's just sucky because then then I

25:32 don't even know you know what music accessory to buy cuz maybe my Sonos

25:36 system or my you know whatever other you know music streaming device supports

25:40 this one but not the other now it turns into a fragmented nightmare um so I want

25:46 to hear from I want to hear from the paid Spotify Spotify users and I also

25:50 want to hear from the free Spotify users would you guys be willing to pay if the

25:55 exclusivity thing didn't happen would you be willing to pay for Spotify for

25:59 the same service you enjoy for free now with ads if it meant that artists like

26:03 Taylor Swift or let's say let's see you don't like Taylor Swift I don't care

26:06 it's not the point artists that you care about whose music you want to hear if

26:09 they didn't pull their support from the service entirely just for having a free

26:14 option so go ahead and uh start hitting us at linch on Twitter Let's uh let's

26:19 start getting those replies in and uh then let's go ahead and uh move into our

26:25 next topic and then we'll come back to that yes okay so this is from Alex Goes

26:29 High and the article is either from straight from the horse's mouth or from

26:35 The Verge the the actual straight from them article is quite good to be

26:38 completely honest so maybe we'll go with that

26:42 Boop check it out yo are you all butt

26:46 hurt at steam or valve or valves steam

26:51 are you letting off stee about how you feel about valve or giant Bronze Statues

26:56 that I'm kind of happy we didn't make I'm really glad we didn't build that thing CU like we wouldn't have managed

27:01 to for those of you who don't know we had like a like a a reward tier for

27:06 crowdfunding campaign we did a while ago where the plan was that we would um the

27:11 plan was that we would build a life-size gay Ben statue which would have been

27:15 hilarious but um by the time we managed to get the

27:20 thing commissioned get the artist out here get the thing actually built valve

27:24 would have gone from like you know the king of the popular gaming companies to

27:29 they've been doing a fair bit of digging lately so all right so you want an

27:32 alternative Gog galaxy forly known as good old games so

27:38 Galaxy is their new gaming platform that

27:41 is and get this DRM free so you can

27:45 actually have a completely DRM free version of any game that you own on good

27:50 old games and you can download that to your computer play it without DRM and

27:55 fully optional gaming Cent that you can

27:59 use for games that you buy on

28:03 g.com super cool the Rebrand is for a

28:06 reason so it used to be called good old games because it was all old games I

28:12 don't know that they were necessarily all good but they were definitely all

28:15 old yep um but that's not necessarily the case anymore so a big like you know

28:21 major launch title coming up is actually Witcher 3 which is not old might not be

28:27 good if you're into The Witcher it's probably

28:30 good but um personally I never really got into the whole the whole Witcher

28:35 thing I never super did but I have a buddy who's like it's probably his

28:38 favorite franchise I think he's watched I think there's a movie or something and

28:42 he's read books and yeah so he's really

28:45 excited about it there's some really cool features there's obvious kind of

28:49 things like optional auto updates and

28:52 oneclick installs which you'd kind of expect from this um but then there is

28:57 offline support which is cool cuz that's not necessarily true for everything and

29:00 the ability to roll back roll back auto updates is very cool leaving that for

29:04 the last one was the coolest thing I'm sorry roll back updates is awesome so

29:09 their their little blurb on this is sometimes game updates break things

29:12 which is very true um yeah thanks to the

29:16 built-in roll back feature you can restore your game to Prior states with

29:19 just a single click so even if you just didn't like something if you're like oh

29:23 they rebalanced this this way I'm playing a single player game and it

29:27 nerfed my character I'm just going to keep rolling around with this overpowered character you like all right

29:32 roll back um I think that's pretty cool for yeah like I just said a bunch of

29:37 different reasons also there's backup copy download which is cool their quote

29:41 on this is want to backup your purchases we get it for all games you can download

29:45 a DRM free backup installer that you can save to an external disc drive or Cloud

29:49 also super cool I love this thing I'm excited honestly I've been waiting for

29:53 this for a really long time so it's pretty cool that it's here than they

29:58 don't have their in-game overlay working yet

30:02 but uh I have two monitors anyways I'm not too worried about it and oh get it

30:06 not too worried about it I wasn't paying attention to you did

30:11 you know 22222 is falling on a

30:14 Tuesday no I didn't it is good for you

30:22 anyways crossplay right okay I wanted to talk about this crossplay enabled games

30:26 will offer online play between Gog and steam so I don't remember the name of

30:31 the game but there's a game that I bought on Kickstarter a while ago and I

30:34 cashed in my key before they had steam keys so I got a Gog key for it and then

30:39 all my friends bought it on Steam and I wasn't able to play with any of them and

30:43 it's like a co-op game so I haven't even

30:46 played it at all and I got it like a really long time

30:50 ago because I've been waiting for crossplay Get Wrecked so I'm excited for

30:56 that it might actually already be able to be done without the launcher but either way I don't know I'm super stoked

31:01 for this because I think valve's comfy

31:04 coach has been getting a little bit too comfy and they've been kind of they've

31:08 sold a lot of hats and they've got a lot

31:11 of money and the thing about a lot of money is that it seems to uh it seems to

31:17 turn into well how do we get like more of it so that we can build an even

31:21 bigger money for it uh pretty quickly and it just yeah it I don't know it just

31:26 seems like it seems seems like a lot of what we I wonder if we've been just

31:31 misinterpreting valve all along like a lot of what

31:38 we what sorry um a lot of what we've

31:43 misinterpreted as valve just generally being good guys is simply valve being

31:48 good business guys so the decisions that they make that please the community are

31:53 they doing it because they believe it's the right thing to do or are they doing it because of you know famous quotes

31:58 like Gabe n's um don't do anything blah

32:02 blah blah Don't Lie to the internet because they'll remember and they'll always catch you etc etc etc is that

32:07 advice because that's an ethical good guy thing to do or is that advice

32:11 because it's a business thing because it's a your business will not make as

32:15 much money if you don't do that so I think there's a lot of room for for

32:19 someone to come in and compete with valve I don't think Ubisoft or EA are

32:23 necessarily the answer we need a truly third party service and that's what

32:27 what's interesting about G is that they don't make

32:32 games so they're not you're not supporting a competitor's platform EA

32:38 doesn't have to line valves Pockets to

32:42 have their game on valves platform and

32:45 vice versa so maybe then we might see a

32:49 little bit less of the sort of you know

32:52 the the the up play fortress and the origin Fortress and the steam Fortress

32:57 maybe at at some point in the future I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon we will see a Bonafide thirdparty

33:03 option that these guys can feel comfortable launching their games

33:06 through because there was a time long

33:09 long ago when game developers were willing to share their profit margins

33:14 with a retailer it was a long time ago um so I

33:20 don't I don't think it's that uh e games and GameStop oh no nope I'm totally

33:25 wrong apparently it's owned by CD project red why I made the weird face no

33:29 no I was wrong I did not know that I did not know that GG was owned by CD project

33:36 red I actually didn't know it was an ownership either but I knew they were

33:39 like super major in cahoots that much is

33:43 apparent I did not know they owned it so there you go there is no well then it's

33:48 okay so CD project owns CD project red and G so there you go apparently well

33:55 let's move on then GG luses hopeful you

33:59 know future amazing so we have to wait for something else then well CD project

34:05 seems to kind of want to work with people yeah but it doesn't matter

34:09 because another game developer isn't going to want to line their pockets

34:12 because we all see what happened that last time that

34:16 happened yay uh so let's go ahead and go to that

34:21 Twitter Blitz that I had said that we would do before so something about

34:26 Arctic Monkeys yeah um so you know no

34:31 they should keep the ad supported tier right but that wasn't really the

34:34 question the question was if they are

34:38 forced to would you pay basically the problem is that uh even when you watch

34:43 ads you're not making as much money for that person or platform or whatever you

34:47 want to call it as you would if you contributed directly very little often

34:51 times like fraction of a scent enough

34:54 that it can keep them afloat and can probably cover your C of being on the

34:58 website if their name is Taylor Swift and a lot of people listen to it but oh

35:03 I meant for just the hosting service oh I see

35:07 um but yeah all right um Eric flood free

35:12 Spotify user here seems like a complete money grab well yes Apple's turning into

35:16 the same institution that they beat oh that is uh that is actually a pretty

35:20 spot

35:23 on um yeah I mean a big part of Apple's pitch was oh BL blah blah blah the way

35:28 we've always done this with the incumbents with buying an entire album

35:32 or buying a single for way too much for one song is stupid we should do and and

35:37 apple that's actually that's actually really interesting Apple stuck to their

35:41 guns about things like the you know the 99 Cent song download back in the day

35:47 because it's not like there couldn't have been premium songs for $4.99 as a

35:52 as a single release for example on iTunes that could have been done but

35:56 they were they were they were they held steadfast that a song should cost a

36:00 dollar on the iTunes Store so so the

36:04 whole thing that they that that that's a really good point the whole the whole

36:07 thing where you had to pay way too much to listen to music did get torn down by

36:12 Apple and that was a big step towards online music distribution so it seems

36:16 like now that someone else innovated

36:19 before Apple um they kind of want to

36:22 dial things back and go back to go back to the old way um very very interesting

36:29 Mr flood Matthew Harvey says I'm a free user Spotify for me is too expensive

36:33 when I can just watch it on YouTube if it becomes exclusive now something to watch out for uh Mr Harvey is that the

36:40 same pressure on Spotify will also be on YouTube for ad supported

36:45 music yes with that said I mean it's not

36:49 like Google has made any kind of a

36:52 particularly well-kept secret out of the fact that they intend to move YouTube

36:56 towards some kind of a premium platform they already have what I forget what

37:00 it's called now but their YouTube music pass thing that costs about the same asy

37:04 think music key thank you or whatever I forget what it's called I think he is

37:07 right um so yeah I wouldn't imagine for

37:11 a second my thing with YouTube though with what he's bring up it's not even

37:14 necessarily Vivo or like YouTube music or whatever it's the like random dude

37:19 that uploaded the whole album and no matter how much YouTube

37:23 wants to like have their algorithms go and take them all out there always seems

37:27 to be a few that make it through regardless yeah which is funny because

37:32 like I uploaded a video actually it's funny the fractal designed to find our 4

37:36 April fools video that we uploaded got flagged for uh content infringement and

37:41 the supposedly infringing part of the video was when the rain was falling on

37:46 the case at the end of the video and it was like it's this song I'm it is not

37:50 there is no song there isn't even any audio in the video at that point um so

37:55 anyway it was a video that got like 300,000 VI use and the AdSense got

37:58 ripped off of it so I was like can you not please did they did they give it

38:04 back I don't know I didn't look but by now no one's going to watch that video anymore like it's just stupid so anyway

38:10 um I don't know there there it seems to be pretty cat cholly for certain things

38:15 yeah um when I watch YouTube that matters I turn off ad block like your

38:18 case okay that's good thank you uh not

38:22 necessarily the topic of conversation right now um for a show about technology

38:26 why do you use low bit rate and only 30 FPS on Twitch well Canada yeah thank you

38:31 we're Canadian and our internet service provider is being a in fact we've

38:36 dropped 413 frames on this show alone

38:39 and we're only streaming at some pathetic I think about half of our

38:43 official rated upload speed maybe like a third of it there's not much we can do

38:47 about that right now we are moving yes to a new office that will have a 200

38:51 megabit Uplink and then we better freaking be able to stream properly

38:55 we're going to stream whatever we please once that happens god um as a free user

39:00 I don't care about the paid service I just ignore the ads I think what a lot

39:04 of you guys are missing is that what's happening is the songs you want to

39:07 listen to aren't going to be there anymore so there is no ignoring the ads

39:13 it's like the song's not there so um so

39:17 I I really wanted to get a feel for whether whether you guys would be would

39:20 be willing to pay as free users but I think maybe I didn't I didn't you know I

39:25 didn't succinctly enough make the point of what I I you go to the next thing

39:29 I'll see if I can sure um all right so

39:32 our next topic for the day Star Wars

39:36 Battlefront will not have iron sights

39:39 according to EA um so my initial reaction here and

39:44 this is this is like totally a joke and

39:49 not what I would really expect them to actually do but can you

39:54 imagine a Star Wars Battlefront where you had like scenario missions where

39:58 you've got like a crack team of Rebel Commandos like you've got four or six

40:03 Rebels versus what what is it 20 20 player or 24 player can't remember

40:08 anymore so you had so you had the Imperials but the Imperials can only hit

40:12 fire because Stormtroopers can't hit anything dirty dirt so like so like the

40:17 rebels can look down a site but the Stormtroopers just have to be like

40:22 PE and they have so so like that could

40:25 make that could make for a really fun game mode right that would be hilarious

40:30 and the Stormtroopers have really quick respawns and it's all objective based

40:34 right so the rebels have to plant a bomb in the thing and the and and Storm

40:38 Troopers like their guns Jam or whatever like like you make the stor they're slow

40:43 moving they can't see they hit their head on doors as they're opening yeah

40:46 they can get taken Ewoks jump on them and beat them with like stones and for

40:52 some reason spam spam F to get rid of Ewok yeah the armor that they're wearing

40:56 doesn't do anything for some reason like

40:59 that would be a super fun game mode that would be awesome just eliminate iron

41:05 sights and the quote is

41:08 hilarious it doesn't say we want to be Counter-Strike there are no iron sights

41:12 in Star Wars on the ordinary blasters

41:16 box said you have scopes on some rifles

41:20 but there are no iron sights we're not

41:23 taking into account what we've done before I think that would be

41:27 disrespectful to the fans and to what we're trying to achieve

41:31 here in response to the fact that their other shooter Battlefield does actually

41:37 in fact contain iron sights a lot of the things you saw in the game have nothing

41:40 to do with anything we've done before some features of course resemble our

41:46 other Shooters because we want to make the best possible shooter but in general

41:51 we've tried to do something completely unique okay what did he even say he said

41:56 a whole bunch of [ __ ] you've watched the movies a lot though do they aim down

42:00 the side of the gun of course they do then who cares not well to be clear well

42:05 Stormtroopers can't because the costume

42:08 prevents them from like the the chin you can't get your chin against the gun but

42:12 they do hold the gun like this now I

42:15 actually have from shepperton Design

42:18 Studios a stormtrooper Blaster oh that

42:21 I'm going to go retrieve now while you maybe do another topic or something like

42:25 that don't worry I got this I got this I'm going to go retrieve my Stormtrooper

42:30 Blaster and we're going to find out if it has anything on it resembling SES or

42:34 if that's even more nonsense than it already appeared to be cool that's I

42:38 will return I would love to do another topic for you guys but my laptop has

42:42 completely lagged out just use mine all right I can use Linus's laptop oh

42:47 fantastic oh there we go my laptop's working again good timing so we have

42:52 another Topic in here that isn't actually uh it doesn't have any notes on

42:56 it at all but I'm going to cover it anyways because I just think it's that

42:59 hilarious I'm going to try to post it in chat let's see if it'll work yes okay so

43:05 Jewelers are starting to Plate Apple watches with gold to undercut Apple's

43:11 pricey Edition models hilarious and it

43:14 looks really good like okay I don't like

43:17 gold to be completely honest I would actually rather the Silvery model one if

43:21 I wanted one of them but it looks really good for what it is and I think that's

43:26 absolutely hilarious I don't know how how much it costs golden dreams is Apparently one of

43:31 them so it cost about $3,500 oh my butt's wet oh not

43:48 cool how much water was that here

43:52 bit can I see yeah yeah here just oh wow

43:57 yeah so that mostly went on your butt too yeah no it went like it went like

44:02 like it hit the shirt and kind of went down the pants

44:05 actually so okay that's good to know so all the water that's on the couch has

44:09 actually touched your butt yes nice okay yes it is butt water I wanted to make

44:13 sure that it was at least butt water okay what what are we talking about um

44:17 Apple watch the guys that are plating it with gold for

44:21 $3,500 24 karat gold 24 karat yellow

44:25 gold 18 karat rose gold or 18 car white gold so there is a less expensive

44:30 Service uh the one that we've actually talked to is watch plate which is doing

44:36 it for 400 bucks which I think is actually a lot more reasonable because

44:40 when you account for that the Apple watch it has an $85 bomb cost I I think

44:46 spend 24 karat rose gold or 24 karat yellow C which is even better than the

44:51 spec I'm not aware of 24 karat rose gold cuz like the composition of rose gold I

44:55 don't know if it actually allows for 24 someone tweeted me about this and I

44:59 didn't look into it any further but I don't know much about my point is for

45:04 something like a mobile device that I that I you know realistically you're

45:08 going to replace at least every couple of generations I think 700 or $800 total

45:14 is a lot more reasonable than you know three or four or $5,000 total let alone

45:20 15 or 17 or however much an addition costs so I think this is brilliant I a

45:25 lot of the comments on the thread on the Forum were about um how Apple's probably

45:30 going to sue I don't see how Apple could sue them I don't think you can that's

45:34 like that's like Ford suing someone for painting their car and they're not

45:39 selling goldplated Apple watches they're selling the service of gold plating a

45:44 Apple watch and I actually talked to watch plate the the guy at watch

45:47 plate.com I think they're going to send us an Apple Watch for review because we

45:50 obviously weren't able to get one from Apple because we're us um and it will be

45:54 so in much the same way that we do uh debr and um skinned phones since dbrand

46:00 provides our phones um it looks like we're going to do a goldplated watch and

46:03 so we'll we'll work in some messaging about the goldplated watch and all that

46:07 and anyway um so so we're probably going to work with those guys on it and I'm

46:11 really I'm really excited to see it anyway I talked to him and the

46:14 background of their company is really really interesting so they actually have

46:18 other businesses including uh something to do with like motorcycles and stuff

46:22 too so they're actually not just a fly

46:25 by night like dude in his garage with some chemicals plating things um so so

46:31 that's that's pretty cool that's that's good to know and he's looked very deeply

46:37 into the legality of this already and kind of went I he's got it cover this is

46:41 his process you you you place your order yeah uh you wait for a shipping label

46:45 which they will send you when it's when it comes to you you package up your

46:49 watch and ship it to them they gold plate it and ship it back within 3 days

46:52 and then you're done so they're not actually selling anything to do with the

46:56 watch other than plating it and you're allowed to do modifications for things

46:59 yes so if they were selling goldplated watches then there's a big problem

47:04 especially if they were calling it like you know addition watch for you know

47:08 $8.99 or $9.99 or whatever then then

47:11 it's like there's a trademark infringement there's all kinds of stuff that Apple can go after them for this

47:16 just looks like Apple's going to have to shut up and take it on the chin and uh

47:21 there's going to be no actual way to differentiate a goldplated cheaper watch

47:27 from an addition watch on the street and the people who buy addition watches are

47:31 just going to have to live with that is there like under the bottom of the watch

47:35 does it actually say addition on it probably so like I still think those

47:41 guys that were going to go out of their way to buy a $10,000 watch will probably

47:45 still do it I really wish they'd buy something other than an ad I've just not

47:51 saying it's a good idea yeah I just think they'll actually probably still do

47:54 it I guess why do I care it's not like I think buying a $10,000 watch is a good

47:58 idea in the first place yeah no I don't this might even give them more of a

48:02 reason because then they can look down on the people like if you see some if

48:05 you're wearing a gold one and someone else is wearing a gold one you can be like oh well is it actually an

48:11 addition and then if they're like no I just got a CO bit you okay sure that's

48:16 fine I got an actual addition blah blah blah blah blah I'm on their site right

48:20 now I'm looking to see if they show the bottom of it at all I don't know has

48:24 anyone actually reviewed the addition yet

48:27 I don't know I I have no idea I'd love

48:30 to see a picture of the bottom just so I can find out or if there's something in

48:36 the firmware that tells us it's an addition like if you can you know scroll

48:40 down to a menu or something I don't know I don't see a single picture of the

48:44 bottom of the watch it seems like no one's actually that interested in that

48:48 that's funny anyway I'm really looking forward to reviewing it I'm also apparently also

48:54 courtesy of dbrand uh apparently going to reviewing the MacBook

49:00 2015 you know what here's the way I'm

49:03 going to tackle it there's actually a couple different angles that I have in my mind so I'm going to try and use it

49:10 I'm going to legit I was going to say the only way I think you can do it is use it and actually see how many times

49:15 you are unable to use it properly so I'm going to keep a tally of the number of

49:19 times that I needed to so I'm going to have to use it for an extended period I actually have a couple ideas of content

49:25 and one thing to keep in mind is while I believe that his uh Massacre of the

49:30 product will be just he is a cable salad

49:34 power user whenever we're in an airport there's everything you could possibly

49:38 connect to everything whenever we're anywhere there's everything you could

49:41 possibly connect to everything um so it will be somewhat of an extreme case I

49:46 I'm that's in saying that like I said I still think it's just but there's a

49:50 couple ways it could win me over there's a couple ways that could convince me

49:53 I've heard Apple's touchpads are outstanding I've used them briefly I've

49:57 never owned a Macbook though so I've used them they seem great every time

50:01 I've Ed them they seem really good I do prefer a mouse in general but I also

50:05 have never owned a Macbook so a mouse is the kind of thing that I very frequently

50:10 I carry one in my backpack I carry a mouse pad I very frequently plug a mouse

50:14 into my laptop what you talking about like a lot of us might carry mice and

50:18 mouse pads but there's not that many people that do that so I'm going to give

50:23 it a chance to win me over I'll give it a chance to win me over but I'm exp in

50:27 it to be a massacre when I was in school I carried a mouse and mouse pad to every

50:31 class of but like that's us like I don't know how many people will do so let's

50:35 see we'll see how it goes um but uh I'm

50:38 I'm I'm definitely I'm definitely stoked on that it's definitely going to be a

50:42 lot of fun I also brought my keyboard got a lot of people telling me to

50:45 apparently it says 18K gold on the bottom of the Edition okay all right

50:48 thank you very much so if they start engraving them then it's a problem I

50:53 guess maybe I don't know no cuz you're allowed to engrave anything you want

50:57 yeah and if if you actually spray it with 18K gold you wouldn't even be lying

51:01 yeah it would just say 18 well yeah but I could I could engrave it with made in

51:06 space and it's gray and that's not

51:09 that's not an infringement of made space gray coated with

51:13 plastic that it be like 20 karat gold like whatever 2 um okay so let's move on

51:19 to our oh no no let's go back a topic so

51:24 this is my E18 blaster this is uh from

51:27 shepperton Design Studios they sent this over along with the stormtrooper armor

51:32 that we featured in a couple of our videos in the past and uh let's have a

51:37 look here so now now EA has come out and

51:40 said that some some rifles will have

51:44 Scopes so sniping for example will be possible you're not going to have to hit

51:48 fire if you're sniping but I know for a fact that Han Solo's Blaster does have a

51:53 small scope on it even if it doesn't have an iron sight and and I now know

51:58 for a fact that the e11s in the original

52:02 in the original Star Wars and New Hope have a scope and an iron sight right

52:10 there so EA straight up lied to us again

52:13 there's your iron sight yes you can look down it if you were and you can see the

52:19 way the scope is mounted is on is on a

52:22 gun rail that scope comes off there's

52:27 your rear there's your front of the iron sight bam that is not a sniper rifle

52:34 that is a standard issue assault rifle and it has an iron sight EA Q D Get

52:42 Wrecked Get Wrecked all

52:47 right and that's as close to screen authentic as you're going to find it's

52:51 not like they just tacked on iron sights for no apparent

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58:12 that's good so that was pretty good yeah that was actually been using Brandon's

58:16 for a really long time we've got a rapid fire topic posted by Overlord original

58:20 article here is from tech power up and

58:24 uh fix Stars unveils the highest capacity 2 and 1/2 in SSD yet

58:32 6,000 gabes what that's ridiculous unknown

58:37 controller right now 6 million

58:42 megabytes keep going six billion

58:48 kilobytes Six Trillion

58:51 bytes six quadrillion tth of a bite

58:55 which doesn't actually exist because a bite is eight no eight bits so you would

59:00 only have like 78 of a bit per tenth of

59:04 a bite which is stupid sorry should I it is kind of dumb

59:10 it does make sense at a third certain point it's just really annoying to calculate but not for a computer anyways

59:15 time to keep going um it has an unknown controller up Nick hey how's it going

59:21 I'm going to make this super awkward oh thank you bringing us water what a nice

59:26 guy thanks Nick thanks Nick we appreciate you wow he flipped us off you

59:31 know Brandon Appreciation Day is coming do you remember that Brandon appreciation day almost a year AG almost

59:37 a year ago we had Brandon appreciation day where we called Brandon in and then

59:42 we're just like I appreciate you and then you told me to make a calendar

59:45 notification for it for the next year I completely forgot about it was setting

59:49 up the garbage calendar schedule and then saw Brandon appreciation day really

59:53 and was like what the hell is that that should we have Brandon appreciation day

59:58 again when is it August 1st August 1st which Saturday but we can just do it on

60:02 the day before rock on we should we should totally do Brandon Appreciation

60:06 Day this year don't tell him I I asked

60:10 him what the hell it was but you asked Brandon what it was but cuz I was like I

60:14 was like I don't know what this is but he doesn't know that we're doing it again oh I see so he'll probably just

60:20 forget about it okay excellent all right so uh basically the details of that SSD

60:25 are pretty straightforward uh 15 15 nanometer

60:31 mlc um mlc flash uh the underlying

60:35 controller is unknown yes um it saturates a SATA 36 GB per second

60:40 interface 540 megab per second read up to 520 megabytes per second right it

60:45 supports trim it has a three-year warranty um no no random iops

60:51 specifications are stated so the idea here is I think that this is not

60:56 intended to be a high performance desktop drive this is a mass storage SSD

61:00 for some reason I would laugh so hard if it was just like this tall no no it's

61:05 not it's not it's not it's it's it's standard I think oh 9.5 mm thick

61:09 standard 9 and a half millim thick like well it is 2 and 1/2 in in that

61:13 Dimension it's just also 3 feet tall that would be super awesome to put in

61:19 your notebook and just have like a 6 tbte laptop notebook SSD it's not going

61:25 to fit a lot of not books but it'll fit like some of the the like big ones the

61:29 really big ones yeah even those are moving to m.2 like even Ms size gt8 only

61:35 but if you get those like those little Boutique laptops that you can configure

61:38 like crazy a lot of times they'll still have big Drive areas cuz you can swap

61:42 out like your optical drive bay when they're still really big and use that as

61:46 a drive slot that's true all right assus

61:50 recalls the mg279 Q free sync compatible display

61:57 this was originally posted by Reigns X and the original article is from

62:01 sweclockers um this this display has

62:06 been um oh this is Swedish that makes sense

62:11 okay well at any rate I guess I won't be telling you

62:15 anything while I read it directly off of the not translated for some reason page

62:21 so pretty much the only English sources

62:24 right now are apparently forums so that was actually right in my notes on the

62:27 topic uh apparently the display skips every sixth frame mostly visible during

62:34 smooth motion at a constant speed which makes sense um it creates hiccups and

62:39 they are withdrawing all mg279 qes from the sales Channel all dissatisfied

62:44 customers should contact support early next week the issue should be possible

62:48 to correct with a new firmware but they need to be returned to the factory to

62:52 update with specialized equipment this is something that I legitimately don't

62:56 understand why is it that mon monitor manufacturers are afraid to provide

63:01 firmware update support on them we're allowed to update the firmware on our

63:06 motherboards we can even update firmware on graphics cards if we want that

63:10 doesn't Avid warranty which graphics card for more updates I think it does

63:15 but on a monitor I don't really I don't really understand why uh why they can't

63:21 just have like a uh you know a Diagnostics only USB port or better yet

63:25 the USB port that's already on there um

63:29 have like a diagnostic mode or like a switch you can hit or something like

63:32 that it doesn't actually connect really to the monitor yeah I guess that's true

63:37 it's just powered yeah so I mean fine

63:40 then come up with a different way I don't care I mean I yeah just some way

63:46 to do it that would be cool enough monitors are coming out now like you saw

63:50 the um what was that stupid the first

63:53 free sync monitor available first free

63:56 sync was it AO ISO I can never remember how you're supposed to pronounce it uh

64:02 the first free sync monitor for sale but basically it came

64:07 without freesync support and relied on a firmware update I I can't I can't I

64:12 can't remember who it was uh ocuk it

64:15 appears yeah so it required a firmware update once it was released I'm sitting

64:19 here going well why don't you just why don't you just actually give us the

64:23 ability to update the firmware of this yeah I I wasn't saying it's not doable I

64:28 just they can't do it through their current USB setup y CU it's just like

64:31 you're 100% right which is the best kind of right yeah Tesla now selling used

64:37 electric cars posted by tangra on the Forum original article here's from The

64:42 Wall Street Journal we kind of already talked about this well yeah but you only

64:45 intro it there's not really much else to say

64:50 so pretty much these are going to be cars that are coming off of lease and

64:54 they are going to sell them

65:00 online is there anything else we can say it's cool they're like they're certified

65:04 pre-owned or whatever which is cool uh I don't think there's really a huge

65:10 discount on a lot of them I checked out the Vancouver one not like I was going

65:13 to actually buy one just cuz I was interested it's still way out of my

65:17 price range by a lot but anyways I was

65:20 just interested cuz I was like Hey cuz you and me were talking about how the

65:24 only way we'd probably ever get something like a Tesla as if it was used

65:27 and way older than it is now um so I was like hey okay where's the landscape now

65:34 still way too far away for both of us

65:38 unfortunately um but like the discount

65:41 was not that high but then part of the problem is the ones being uh sold as

65:46 used on the Vancouver Market will have like 5,000 clicks really that's it what

65:51 are people doing with them that's my point I don't know and I'm like why is

65:55 this even here it's barely left the lot and I'm like okay well of course there's

65:59 no huge discount this thing has barely been driven like where's the one with

66:04 like that dude that drives like crazy and racked up like a 100,000 clicks

66:09 already yeah that drives like an hour and a half to work and then charges his

66:13 car and then drives home every day yeah where is that guy I guess he doesn't

66:16 have a Tesla he hasn't resold it guess he's like he's a he's a working Schmo

66:21 and uh can't afford a Tesla unfortunately yeah so I the Vancouver

66:25 Mar is a little bit starving right now I didn't do a ton of research apparently I

66:29 think Nick checked out more like the the like San Fran one and stuff like that

66:34 which will'll have way more apparently there's stuff in the program available for between $60 to $90,000 which is

66:39 definitely less than a new model S um but still going to be out of a lot of

66:43 people's price range and they are putting a warranty on it so the certified pre-owned ones are going to

66:47 have uh 4year or 50,000 mile warranties

66:50 on them which would last four years for your dude over there yeah yeah seriously

66:57 oh um it's currently only available in 11 US cities apparently and uh the cars

67:02 are coming from display models and or oh could be a display model oh so test

67:07 drives could be test drives oh so there

67:10 you go see that makes a ton of sense all right so yeah I don't really know what

67:16 else to say about selling used cars it's cool but it's not like I don't know I

67:19 mean to put this in perspective more like the kind of car that I've been

67:23 shopping for lately is like a be van for

67:26 lonus Media Group I was I was I was literally seeing

67:30 if I could buy a van for like a few thousand and I found I found a uh I

67:35 found a 2002 Honda Odyssey for $3,200

67:39 with $85,000 clicks on it or something like

67:42 that van are expensive is it minivan minivan no van vans in general the

67:47 $3,200 I thought that was pretty good that's pretty that's a lot of mileage

67:50 it's a lot of mileage good but it's a lot of mileage but considering that

67:53 it'll basically get driven to from the

67:56 office or not yeah we wouldn't use it much yeah

68:02 yeah so I was thinking cuz I don't want something expensive I want something

68:05 like super craptastic that I don't even have to lock the doors but you can throw

68:09 a bunch of junk in it whenever we need to move probably have to lock the doors

68:12 because with my car I'm really not worried about people stealing it um it's

68:16 a manual for one thing which is apparently a huge theft deter in North

68:19 America and for number two it's like not

68:23 useful for Smash and grab it has no cargo cap whereas a lot of people steal minivans

68:27 so they can smash and grab interesting I had no idea that's sense it makes a ton

68:32 of sense and because there's so many minivans on the road like stuff like a

68:35 Dodge Caravan for example is a prime target because it's like yeah there's a

68:40 missing vehicle it's a you know red Dodge Caravans like okay well there's a

68:44 lot of those crap ton of them and because there's so many it's probably

68:47 pretty well documented on how to break into them y yep so all all that kind of

68:52 stuff so we might actually have to worry about you know not having that we park

68:55 it inside I was just going to say we can park it in it's not like we're going to fill the whole thing yeah because for

68:59 those of you who are wanting to see what the new LMG headquarters is looking like

69:04 if you snagged a vessel membership back when we uh announced the free ones

69:09 during the first few days then it's already up on vessel we have a tour of

69:13 the new office and if you haven't then that's going to be coming to YouTube

69:16 very very soon and it'll give you a really good look at the New lonus Media

69:21 Group HQ which I personally think is awesome and I think is a good opport for

69:25 us to jump into um the feedback on the

69:29 most recent video that we launched on vessel have you the com some guy just

69:34 posted in the chat Lon you can buy our old Chrysler for, 1500 bucks 89k miles

69:41 89,000 miles yeah but miles you're probably in the states it's going to be

69:45 a nightmare getting that card here oh yeah no good thank you though I really I

69:49 sincerely appreciate the offer um but I

69:54 I really vehicle not a good idea

69:57 especially when you're in that low of price it's not going to be worth it yeah

70:01 thank you though can't say can't say

70:05 thank you enough um but no thanks that's

70:09 also, 1500 us oh yeah which would legitimately turn

70:13 into a lot more once you move it to Canadian all right so let's go ahead and

70:19 let's um let's let's uh let's fire up you know it's really funny

70:24 because we got so many complaints about

70:28 not doing unboxings anymore back when we killed them and we did an unboxing the

70:34 other day and the the N okay a that's

70:38 not very many likes and B the amount of hate on the

70:44 unprofessionalism of the video is uh so

70:48 there's like there's some people that like it but here we go this feels less

70:52 professional than usual here's someone that likes

70:57 it um bad

71:00 sound uh this is very disrespectful rude

71:04 and unprofessional disrespectful wow

71:07 um what what else we got whoa I think you should remove the video from here

71:12 and present your excuses to your fans and followers and to factual design stop

71:16 rushing wow um

71:20 okay uh

71:25 so like some people like it some people are like yeah he's um you know who cares

71:34 this guy's like yeah they're almost always why was this unboxing so ghetto

71:38 and unprofessional was it more ghetto and unprofessional than it it normally is

71:44 like the one guy complained about sound we should still have good sound even if

71:47 it's a I thought it was it was fine I mean there was some winds I was wearing

71:50 a lav so like that's kind of life sometimes you guys could put a wind sock on a lav no but I was wearing it in my

71:55 my shirt like it's not that bad um so yeah I don't know we we thought we were

72:00 like I haven't I haven't watched it I thought we were like doing the right I

72:03 thought we were doing the right thing you know like hey let's bring back

72:06 unboxing a while wait till it hits YouTube and kind of have to feel it out

72:10 a little bit more and whatnot but yeah what's the title of it but with that

72:14 said I mean the vessel audience is in some ways going to be like sort of the

72:19 the die hards yep the guys that don't miss a video even if the video is called

72:24 hey we're launching on a new platform as opposed to heyy here's a hot new product

72:28 you might actually give two cares about um so yeah I I don't know I was just I

72:33 was quite taken aback yeah got a lot of

72:36 people saying like yeah it was it was bad it was terrible in fact the entire

72:39 twitch chat has uh has pretty much has pretty much exploded with people saying

72:44 like it was great or it was like super stupid it was super terrible and um so I

72:50 don't know I don't know maybe we'll bring back unboxings as like a a a

72:54 regular or even once in a while thing um

72:57 I don't I don't know I don't know I mean the reality of it is um unboxings are a

73:03 good way for us to address a product like the defin s where I could have done

73:08 a full review Luke could have done a full review but the cold hard truth is

73:12 it's the Define R5 the full review wouldn't have taken much more time than

73:16 the unboxing it's a Define R5 with no front door and no Drive cages in the

73:22 front and more water cooling radiator spots sort of because the Define R5 has

73:26 them you just have to pull out the cages that would have been the review what

73:30 else am I supposed to say the the the the thing like the fact of the matter

73:34 here is we've got we'll have people complain about us glossing over this

73:38 product but then we're going to have people complain or worse yet simply not

73:43 watch the video when we do like a proper

73:47 more professional review as opposed to just goofing around and having some fun

73:51 with it on a product that just isn't very interesting so I don't know and

73:56 when you get to we've discussed this but not with necessarily this terminology

74:00 when you get to masterful levels in product tiers like we kind of have in

74:05 certain ways with phones where like you're you're outpacing what people need

74:09 or want other than freaking batteries but anyways that's he means the product

74:14 not our reviewing technique yeah yeah yeah so when the to clarify we're

74:19 basically masters of reviewing so everyone just needs to not what I meant

74:22 at all calm their boobies down bad my bad my b um so basically when the

74:27 iterations become much less interesting it's hard to make an interesting 5 to 7

74:31 Minute video every time and sometimes it's actually kind of better to just be

74:36 like look these two things are different

74:39 this is a general idea of the product you're welcome there you go all

74:44 right people have been demanding a straw pole the straw pole is here um got

74:49 people making good points if it's not that interesting why unbox it well some

74:53 people are still going to want to see it it's a fractal product I still don't

74:56 mind showing it to you guys it's not a bad case in fact there's some really

75:00 good things about it I personally don't think that many people need more than

75:04 five mounting points for drives I've actually and I think you have too

75:07 struggled with certain ideas where we want to show you guys something but it

75:11 would only take 30 seconds to show it to you so how do we do that because if we

75:15 release a 30 second video I mean there's a uh I mean there's

75:21 the possib I mean what I've done with stuff like that in the past is the handy

75:25 Tech series is an interesting way of tackling that where we do we often come

75:30 up with ways and we make it work but like that's that is a legitimate problem

75:33 but it's funny because if we pad the content people complain and if we make a

75:38 a short piece like I did what I called I think I called it like a micro review

75:42 for the Moto E which was again a product I didn't think was particularly

75:46 interesting but was relevant from the perspective of you know someone who's

75:50 doesn't have a lot of money and is shopping for a phone um so I did what I

75:54 called a micro review and then we get people complaining that the content to

75:59 uh sponsor spot ratio is not good and I'm kind of sitting here going who cares

76:04 who actually cares it's at the end of

76:08 the video you don't have to keep watching we we do that out of

76:12 consideration for you guys and it's it's not a better video if we just write it

76:18 to be longer and put in filler it's it's

76:21 not a better video If there's no point to the cont that were staying it doesn't

76:25 make it better and like I would make the argument that for something like the Define s the point was the voyage of

76:31 Discovery I mean that's what people claim to have always liked about the unboxings that we did was this is the

76:36 first time I'm seeing it and here's the here's the process um I mean a lot of

76:40 the complaints about it are about apparently the way that I handled the case you know how I handled the case I

76:46 lifted it up to shake it to demonstrate that something had come loose inside and

76:51 the side panel came off because the screws had come out

76:55 did I handle that case poorly who handled that case

76:58 poorly not him that's the answer to that

77:02 question so and people are like upset oh he's throwing it around I never threw it

77:06 around I dropped the side panel because the side panel screws came out because

77:11 the captive nubbins on it make it so that only a tiny bit of the threading

77:15 goes into the side panel so which is something that is

77:22 actually really really hard to capture that's actually an interesting Point that's really hard to capture in a

77:26 professional review because when he takes that side panel off it's not going

77:30 to be filmed the first time um and it's

77:34 not going to end up really making it in the video and then if he claims like oh the side panel came off because the

77:38 screws are short then some people will not necessarily believe him blah blah

77:41 blah blah but with that said no one would ever open up a case by shaking it

77:44 you know if they were buying it for themselves and I would make a decision

77:49 when but there's always there's there's always going to be The Accidental clumsy

77:53 where they bump something or trip on on something and like later on if they're carrying their computer around and their

77:57 buddy like slops them on the shoulder and it's like hey man and the side panel

78:00 falls off like I don't know yeah it seems pretty unlikely I mean I think I

78:05 think far what I would probably do when I'm writing that script is I would go

78:08 okay am I actually going to encounter this problem

78:13 if I'm buying the seen the uning taking it apart yeah no I shake it around a

78:17 fair bit so if I buy the case I take the side panels off I put them in the in the

78:21 Box safely while I you know build my computer in it no I'm not so not going

78:25 to mention that but it is something that probably should have been addressed

78:30 they should have had a longer screw anyway the point is it's just stop

78:34 spoiling the video's it's just an unboxing it's the

78:38 the the only entertaining thing about the video is just hey here's a video I

78:42 talk about the product it's kind of entertaining I hope um all right so

78:46 let's go ahead and what the straw oh um

78:51 so somewhere around

78:54 so the wow audience wants somewhere between 77 and

78:59 94% in favor of unboxings with that said they don't get

79:05 the kind of viewership that our proper reviews do um so for me I like I see it

79:09 as a way of as a way of covering products that I think are interesting enough to make a video but not

79:13 interesting enough to spend the hours and hours and hours and hours and hours

79:16 involved in making one of our normal videos which is why we selected the one we did to be completely honest so let's

79:22 see maybe we'll we'll try it a couple more times or we'll see how the Define

79:26 S1 goes when we launch it on YouTube and stuff like that what

79:31 about yep um I think we should just try that rather than pulling them about it

79:35 we'll just see how it goes um there was

79:38 another topic I wanted to hit just now Nintendo is apparently working on a

79:42 theme park yeah so they're joining forces with Universal Parks and Resorts

79:47 this is the first ever attractions based Nintendo thing and there's no other info

79:54 um and that's the actual logo yeah that's at all horrible that's for a game

79:58 I own it it's actually pretty good um okay so yeah so this is if you have

80:04 friends the article is pretty much pure speculation uh it was posted on the

80:08 Forum by notional and I would go I would

80:12 go I would go to this versus Disneyland oh 100% I think in terms of relevance to

80:16 my childhood I would be so scared to go though cuz the

80:20 merch oh the merch oh my financials yeah well that's

80:25 exactly it I mean Nintendo for Our Generation I think Nintendo is actually

80:29 has so much bigger than more relevance than Disney yeah um I mean I'm just

80:34 trying to think like Disney does a really good job with the princesses with the with the the young

80:40 the little girl demographic what do they have for the guys they got they got

80:45 cars um which cars is crap movie no oh

80:49 that was like that was like merched like

80:52 cars everything no no but is cars like a

80:56 guy specific thing um it's a guy technically yeah I think cars you could

81:01 be a girl and be interested in race cars yeah you could but I think that's not

81:04 when they when lesser percentage when they sat down and they had a planning

81:07 meeting for the demographic they're targeting I don't think little girls it

81:11 was was it um so not frozen so yeah so

81:15 not frozen like what targets what targets little boys

81:20 Aladdin Aladdin was never really merched in the way that something like a car or

81:25 and it's old any of their new stuff I don't really know back in the

81:30 day Aladdin people saying cars is Pixar

81:33 Pixar's owned by Disney

81:37 um they own Star Wars yeah they own Star Wars but that's not I've got someone

81:42 saying cars is a great movie I'm sorry but cars has Owen Wilson in

81:46 it I still think you should do your movie nothing with Owen

81:50 Wilson in column does contain

81:54 also falls into column is great movie a movie rating database like just a

82:00 database that automatically rates movies based on like contains Al anyone brings

82:05 up that Marley and Me atrocity I don't even want to talk to that person ever

82:10 again to story okay yeah but Toy Story was very poorly

82:14 merched yeah did did you ever like that's true there was there was some

82:18 would like Toy Story was and that was pre- Disney ownership by the way so Toy

82:23 Story was was a Pixar project that

82:27 seemed like they just it was pre-commercial yeah like they they used

82:31 actual toys other than uh Buzz Light ear and Woody so the only merch deal would

82:38 be things like bed spreads and stickers

82:42 did they even really sell Woody and Buzz much not much as far as I'm I remember

82:47 being a kid and being like the first time I ever saw a Buzz Lightyear toy I

82:51 was like whoa you can get those yeah

82:55 like it wasn't it wasn't like a oh I see these everywhere it didn't have the

82:59 Disney Juggernaut merchandising meile you can buy like bow and arrow sets from

83:06 The Hunger Games or whatever and like B you can buy whatever you want for new

83:10 ones like Frozen has everything you could possibly want Frozen was such a

83:14 huge Commercial Success you know they're working on the sequel now right yeah yeah so they've brought back uh some of

83:19 the some of the same folks um I'm stoked for it I'm going to watch it um Frozen

83:23 was good the Olaf dude the dude that runs the shop in the

83:26 mountains oh that's the Snowman what yeah oh oh no okay so you

83:31 me the Swedish guy right the Swedish guy yes so cool I love that guy he made the

83:36 whole movie for me anyways keep going um

83:39 where what were we yeah I don't know like I don't get it anyway so yeah Nintendo theme park I would go I would

83:44 take my kids there because it would have a lot more relevance to me it would be a lot more interesting to me it wouldn't

83:48 just be like and they'd still have fun yeah and they would still have fun

83:52 there's rides do they care chines do Mickey Mouse versus Mario Mickey Mouse

83:57 versus Mario how is that not in a fighting game

84:01 yet apparent apparently rayu might be coming

84:06 to uh Smash Brothers the whole it's so inbred now

84:12 like when are we going to get a stormtrooper in Smash Brothers that would be awesome matter of time absolute

84:17 matter of time like it just gets to the point where you add so many characters it's like completely imbalanced and it

84:22 doesn't and no one even cares anymore it's just like we oh people will care

84:26 there's a really hardcore smash Community I know that people will care

84:30 but like most people won't care if it's

84:33 something as cool as like we put Darth Vader and Smash Brothers one thing that

84:37 I like about smash a Darth Vader Angry Bird there's the people that care and

84:41 there's very specific like crossover of crossover sorry Angry Bird oh my god

84:47 um that would be so ridiculous um there

84:51 there's enough like fine control and specific things that there's people that can care and there's stuff in the game

84:55 that caters to them which is super cool but it's also so General and easy to

85:00 pick up that random people can just play still have a good time unless they're

85:03 playing against those people in which case the hardc it's ridiculous yes

85:08 anyways we have lost we have lost so many live viewers since I've like

85:13 stopped talking about topics we've lost like 300 well we're like done are we is

85:18 there anything else EVGA is releasing ddr4 memory apparently and DDR3 memory I

85:23 see enhanced is coming to GTA 5 soon so that's going to be interesting cuz

85:27 everyone's going to get banned unless they pirate it I guess so more game

85:32 developers giving people more reasons to Pirate things super cool has a black

85:40 PCB evidently carefully selected chips

85:43 that's good sounds delicious if they

85:46 didn't carefully select chips there might be a Dorito on your RAM yep Dorito

85:52 memory they should sell someone should sell like specifically not carefully

85:57 selected chips RAM they used to so there's a chance that when you order it

86:01 in the mail you just get a bag of Doritos but they're super cheap so it's

86:05 like a lottery I was trying to have a real you know like how in games you can

86:08 like buy a key to open the box and you get something random so it's like that

86:11 with Real World products so there's like a 50% chance you get a bag of chips and

86:15 there's a 50% chance you get RAM but it's

86:19 55% of the cost of the actual item so

86:22 this is back when they used to actually do that this is an article from legit

86:26 reviews from back in 2005 this was uh wow almost to the day

86:32 10 years ago um I'm old holy crap I

86:36 can't believe I remember this so uh UT memory I's were actually based on the

86:42 famous throwaway stuff wind Bond bh5 no

86:45 no they were they were not throwaway um they were like they were they were they

86:50 were like working chips so so basically some bh5 dies got like found somewhere

86:57 um and pretty much what happened was uh

87:01 ocz bought a whack ton of them and released them as VX modules voltage

87:06 extreme because the chips weren't see I

87:09 can't remember exactly what it means okay after they were packaged they were

87:13 not speed bined utt stands for untested

87:16 memory ic's they were based off old wind Bond Die revisions no one found them

87:20 someone apparently legitimately obtained them so ocz released their gold VX

87:27 modules and pretty much because they weren't speed bin in any way and they

87:31 weren't sorted you had to pump VX stood for voltage extreme you had to pump like

87:37 obscene amounts of voltage through them but because they were based on the

87:41 famous bh5 which were some of the best most famous overclocking memory ever um

87:47 they could still overclock really well if you just fed enough voltage to them the problem was that they would die at

87:52 some point so there you go so this pretty good article

87:56 apparently mushkin had some Redline memory like sick like 2226 timings at

88:02 3.3 to 3 and2 volts and a big sign on it

88:06 that says active cooling required this is like back in the wild west of like PC

88:11 Hardware it's just like yeah anything goes forget JD specifications we're

88:16 going we're going full on UT and you know what I mean back when the back when

88:21 the signals were running at much lower frequencies there was less cross talk

88:24 there was less complexity in the trace designs um back then this kind of stuff

88:29 could actually fly these days I don't

88:33 even recommend um I I don't even I don't even

88:37 recommend overclocking memory anymore I recommend putting it in your system at

88:42 the speed that it's supposed to run at and leaving it because it doesn't make a

88:45 difference to Performance anymore anyway I mean this was back in the days when

88:49 you were accessing memory over the front side bus so you would like over the snot

88:54 out of that and you needed high speed memory in order to stay in sync like

88:59 maintaining a one:1 ratio was like a big deal because all of a sudden you were

89:03 wasting fewer clock cycles and there was less latency like ah yeah and uh that's

89:09 when that kind of stuff was fun that was when that kind of stuff actually made an

89:12 ounce of sense these days overclocking memory just gets you random crashes

89:17 every once in a while and higher temperature memory yeah so there you go

89:23 yeah anyways um that was a fun show yeah so I

89:29 guess that's pretty much it thank you guys very much for tuning in apparently

89:32 people didn't like my RAM Lottery idea your RAM Lottery idea I wasn't even

89:37 listening to you I literally have no idea what you're talking about okay all

89:41 right well thank you guys for tuning in we'll see you again next week same bat

89:45 Time same bat channel did people not

89:49 understand it yeah I had someone tweet me what do you mean same bad time same

89:52 bad Channel what's wrong with the time and channel bat like Batman it's like

89:55 the old 70s Batman so that made me feel old too just all about the feeling old

90:00 today the best part is he's not actually that old I'm I feel old you're not

90:04 technically old enough to have seen that though that's true I'm old enough that

90:08 it was rerun on TV though I've I watched

90:11 it on YTV but obviously but doesn't YTV do the like super old school rerun

90:16 things I'm willing to bet they don't still rerun that like I'm willing to bet

90:19 their super old reruns are like Bobby's World now no you know yeah yeah right

90:26 because I've seen it

90:29 yeah okay oh it broke oh it didn't all

90:34 right people are asking for an after party but my back is swe so yeah and I

90:40 have a question from Ken about a

90:43 video

90:52 um next time Tesla cently the model 3 will be

90:56 unveiled next march interesting h i

91:00 don't believe rumors anymore I'll wait till it's

91:04 unveiled sponsors remember if you use all