The WAN Show - Video Cards & Witcher 3 - SO MUCH DRAMA!! - May 22, 2015

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0:02 okay so we're live maybe and we super duper hope that uh
0:09 that we're back and I'm seeing load video so we're
0:15 definitely getting an ad on Twitch so they've got they've got that aspect of
0:19 the whole experience working which is great when was the last time you had
0:23 Pringles you know I do I do eat like a
0:26 pringle or two every once in a while really I particularly love pizza
0:31 Pringles oh Pizza Pringles are the best I know well they didn't have them at
0:35 least not in Canada Canada for a really long time and so they brought them back
0:40 and I binged a bit and then I it was it
0:44 was a terrible terrible thing for everyone involved and yeah so I guess
0:48 since we apparently didn't actually have a working stream for quite some time
0:53 last time around uh we're going to go ahead and we'll intro our topics and
0:57 we'll just kind of yeah it's definitely working now there you go I I don't know what it was we tried turning it off and
1:01 turning it back on again in netw works we were uploading fine and encoding fine
1:06 yeah so we've got some great topics for you guys today CD project red is uh well
1:12 basically they've tackled the whole downgrade issue headon they're tackling
1:17 we haven't actually seen any of that happen yet we haven't seen the tackle
1:20 they're like they they like Dove and they're right here I wouldn't even say
1:24 they've gotten that far because they've got X's and O's drawn on the Whiteboard
1:30 there is a plan to tackle well they've
1:33 been developing the yeah is it still planning maybe they're in the Huddle at
1:38 this point okay or like they're lined up on maybe they're lined up on the line of
1:42 scrimmage all right maybe they've gotten that far uh okay AMD is super super mad
1:47 about NVIDIA game works again uh what
1:51 else we got because there's a new NVIDIA games Works game makes sense also
1:54 there's apparently a 4 gab limit for the
1:57 first hbm graphics card from which they're talking a lot about and LG
2:02 is unveiling a wallpaper OLED display
2:05 don't tell them anything else about it cuz there's really not much more which
2:08 is something stay tuned to find
2:13 out oh wait it's gone where is it where
2:19 is audio audio audio AIO oh oh sorry
2:22 everyone sorry everyone I'm working on it there we go sorry sorry sorry sorry
2:28 sorry sorry we love you guys sorry to your
2:33 ears maybe at some point what we should
2:37 do is a oh whoops I forgot to put uh Squarespace squ space fresh books fresh
2:43 book I fix it I fix it you're not going
2:48 to sing it I fix
2:51 it wow that's awful okay basically what you did it's probably just as well it's
2:55 probably just as well you we were just playing horse we playing horse we
2:59 wearing almost the same shirt yes we are we were also wearing almost the same
3:04 shirt earlier that's true we were wearing inverted shirts earlier he had
3:07 the uh the gray twitch shirt the gray twitch shirt with the purple logo and I
3:11 was rocking the purple twitch shirt with the used to be white but I own it so now
3:17 it's gray logo on it all right so CD
3:22 project red is taking The Witcher 3 downgrade issues head on this was posted
3:28 by that guy who Twirls his on the Forum that is a fantastic
3:32 username and the original article here is from
3:36 eurogamer.net so let's go ahead and pull that bad boy up and pretty much the
3:41 quote here this is this is great the sub headline is we don't feel good about
3:48 it they they've one thing they've done
3:52 well throughout all of this um is they've actually maintained a lot more
3:57 openness and a lot more honest dialogue
4:00 with the community instead of just saying no that never happened um they've
4:05 come out and they've said well look yeah we could have made The Witcher 3 a PC
4:09 exclusive title uh yes it would have had
4:13 better graphics um would we have had the
4:17 financial ability were that the case to
4:20 make it such a large and immersive game no we would not have so we developed it
4:25 on multiple platforms from the sound of what people think about the game so far
4:29 that was probably worth it yeah so the thing is is that the the game is getting
4:34 rave reviews everywhere people are sinking hours and hours upon hours of
4:38 time into it already um so it's just unfortunate that the launch had to be uh
4:44 sullied by this graphical downgrade issue the good news is CD project red
4:49 has an action plan they've drawn it out on the strategy white board in a
4:54 boardroom somewhere presumably at their headquarters maybe or maybe it's a
4:58 boardroom somewhere else technically everything that he said is possible yes
5:05 um so pretty much there's a patch with updates coming and these are looking
5:09 pretty impressive not only will they give us more options to tweak in the
5:14 graphical options menu they will also be
5:17 allowing users to push graphical settings and tweak them even further by
5:21 modifying inii files which shouldn't be a feature in a less JY
5:26 like Quake 3 supports widescreen
5:30 because you just change your fov and your resolution and and I file it's
5:35 pretty old game now um it should not be a feature but the good news is that at
5:40 least we're getting it yes um so what's the timeline on that I think it's uh
5:46 next week okay sometime 27 yeah sometime
5:50 around next week I think yeah so it's oh yeah it's waiting in certification so it
5:54 should actually be dropping on Tuesday of next week now this is kind of nice
6:01 although uh so quoted quote from CD
6:05 project red for those who are still not 100% decided I definitely encourage them
6:10 to wait and see what we will be releasing in patches updates and whatnot
6:14 so it's very high road of CD project red
6:18 to say Hey you know if you're not sure about it we really want you guys to be
6:22 sure about the game before you purchase I I mean did you guys accept pre-orders
6:27 did you show off in-game footage that didn't actually end up being in the
6:30 shipping product and did you take pre-orders on that like did you do that
6:34 if we hadn't caught you on this would you have did you really think no one was
6:38 going to catch it that's a big question
6:41 I uh if it's only taking them a couple
6:44 weeks to fix this stuff why wasn't it fixed already yeah because surely they
6:50 knew after the watchdog's debacle that
6:53 someone was gonna look at gameplay
6:57 footage from a gaming event from before and compare and see that they're not the
7:01 same surely they figured that would happen you know what is pretty funny
7:05 though is the amount of like pcmr threads on on Reddit and stuff of people
7:10 um I think I only saw two of them maybe maybe there was some more but people
7:14 looking at the IGN footage where they actually did a comparison and being like
7:18 Oh I think they might have screwed up and like they labeled it improperly and
7:22 they totally didn't and the pc1 looks way better and you just don't know what
7:25 good graphics look like it's kind of funny because it doesn't seem that that
7:30 complicated does it um anyway so speaking of good graphics some of the
7:34 things we actually never mentioned this some of the things that you'll be able to tweak with the upcoming patch are
7:38 things like grass and vegetation density so if you just have more GPU horsepower
7:43 to throw at it then go hard more grass looks really good looking at a lot of
7:47 the Skyrim mods that just add grass and that's all they do it makes it look
7:50 really good grass makes every experience better um and you can add
7:53 post-processing effects like sharpening and you can increase draw distances for
7:57 me draw distances are huge one draw distances are the
8:03 difference between you know 2000 circuit
8:06 2008 World of Warcraft and a game that looks modern uh being able to amp that
8:12 up you can have the cartooni stupidest Graphics in the world and great draw
8:16 distances make the world feel bigger and I'm not talking draw distance like
8:21 there's kind of this triangle in the distance and there's like kind of like a
8:25 jagged line on the top of it that's white that's not a mountain I'm talking
8:28 draw distances that that scale in a way that feels natural so things like trees
8:33 not just as you come over a hill and like the entire Forest Pops in as you
8:38 take three steps forward that's that's really ugly that takes me right out of
8:42 the game whereas being able to increase that if you have the horses for it means
8:46 more to me than some tessellation here or a more detailed Shadow there I would
8:51 love that to be an option in a game for all the things that are like pretty far
8:54 away in draw distance to just be drawn like a little kid did it so like the
8:58 trees were like yeah with like some random triangles coming off the side and
9:02 a mountain is just literally a triangle with a squiggly you know what if someone
9:05 could find a way to do that
9:08 artfully that could actually be really cool yeah like as the object gets closer
9:14 it looks as if an older and older kid drew it yeah yeah yeah yeah so like you
9:18 could even go from uh yeah I don't know
9:22 that's kind of interesting just upgrade based on tiers of quality like you said
9:26 older and older kid did it so like from really far away it's super Derpy but you
9:30 can barely see it and as you get closer and closer and closer and closer and closer it keeps on getting better well
9:34 what the dev would have to do is
9:38 quantitatively figure out like the the
9:42 the CU not every tree could be the same tree you can just have some 2-year-old
9:47 come in and draw a tree and then that's like your tree from X distance cuz then
9:50 you're going to have that it's there's not going to be anything um smooth about
9:54 it as you move towards it it'll just be pop pop pop different objects that will
9:58 look hor whereas if they could
10:02 quantify the drawing accuracy and and
10:05 seamlessly meld from one level to another as you get closer to it You'
10:09 probably have to go backwards you'd probably have to draw the really nice one first and then kind of break it down
10:14 it would probably make your eyes bleed regardless but it seems like a cool idea
10:18 I would like to see it and I don't know why yeah I'd like to see it and then go
10:21 that's cool that was cool thanks for all that work good for you let's not use it
10:25 now yeah oh man all right so more
10:29 Witcher discussion this time posted by caram cam camaran sorry about that
10:35 caraman um AMD says and this is going to
10:39 be a whole lot of AMD says NVIDIA says
10:42 because um we haven't signed an NDA to
10:48 see the source code for NVIDIA Gameworks features so we don't know what's on the
10:53 NDA to see the source code for NVIDIA Gameworks now the good news is is that
10:59 the source code is available um to game developers who are
11:04 implementing features such as Hair Works which makes hair more realistic with
11:08 tessellated strands but the bad news is
11:11 that and this is what AMD is saying they cannot get access to the source code and
11:16 are saying therefore they cannot optimize their driver for these
11:21 particular features something that particularly makes them upset because
11:26 AMD developed features like tress FX featured in games such as Tomb Raider
11:34 2013 were possible to optimize quite
11:37 easily on NVIDIA's Hardware thanks to oh
11:41 thanks Norton oh thanks Norton my God oh
11:45 my God thanks again Norton this is why
11:48 people need Norton removal tool yeah I know right um so pretty much AMD's come
11:54 out and said that when NVIDIA dropped the Hairworks code on the game 2 months
11:59 before launch it completely sabotaged
12:03 Witcher 3 Performance now with that said
12:07 you can turn Hair Works off yep you do
12:10 not have to use it yep so that's an
12:13 option and when we do comparative testing in Witcher 3 uh we are probably
12:17 going to have to turn herir Works off just because it does completely uh widen
12:23 the gap between an NVIDIA card and AMD card to the point where it seems like
12:28 yeah that's tough we're to the point where you can't
12:32 quantitatively talk about the difference in performance between the Cards because
12:35 it becomes very subjective when you go well this one's at 62 FPS and this one's
12:40 67 but in this one you know geralt's chest hair uh you know curls very
12:45 convincingly look a lot more manly yeah so it it becomes a very difficult
12:49 discussion whereas we like to talk pure numbers whenever possible um I don't
12:54 know what else there is to say I mean something to it's a lot of the same
12:58 story yeah something to understand about this you guys is that AMD's cards
13:03 whether we're talking Wier three or whatever else straight up do not perform
13:07 as well with heavy tessellation as NVIDIA cards so until AMD releases the
13:13 let's say a rumored upcoming 390x for example with you know amped up you know
13:20 you know injections of steroids directly
13:23 into the muscle tissue not that that would necessarily help um until it's got
13:29 tessellation you know out the woo uh it
13:32 just may not even be possible for AMD to optimize and one of the things that
13:36 NVIDIA pointed out is that um a lot of
13:40 the time the driver optimizations done by AMD or NVIDIA on a game by- game
13:44 basis are based on binary builds not on source code anyway so NVIDIA is
13:48 basically going AMD shouldn't even need a source
13:52 need the source code in order to optimize
13:56 anyhow so this is one of those things where unfortunately and NVIDIA says
14:01 there's nothing in their agreement with a game developer that prevents AMD from
14:06 working with the game developer to optimize unless we actually had those
14:10 contracts and could read them we actually can't sa for sure so that's
14:16 pretty much all there is to it um the game performs better with Hair Works on
14:22 an NVIDIA feature on NVIDIA cards is
14:25 NVIDIA right to develop their features and not really lift a finger to help
14:31 people who are not their customers enjoy the features better um you could
14:36 probably say yes they are but should
14:40 they be specifically sabotaging the performance on a competitor's cards then
14:45 definitely not unfortunately we just have no way of knowing unless we
14:49 actually sat in the meeting room we have
14:52 no way of knowing if NVIDIA really has
14:56 that tight a strangle hold on these game developers that they can convince them
15:00 to sabotage their game's performance on 25 to 30% of the discret graphics cards
15:05 out there which one I put it like that sounds pretty far-fetched doesn't it can
15:09 you imagine a game developer that's so concerned about selling enough units
15:13 that they develop for multiple platforms
15:16 just saying goodbye to Performance and
15:19 annoying the customers on for a third of the PC
15:23 Gamers I don't know yeah it's possible but yeah anything's possible speaking of
15:29 yeah so we are going to do a Witcher 3 Performance thing uh like he slightly
15:33 mentioned but I think at this point it'll probably be after comex oh okay
15:38 yeah I have reasons for that fair enough yeah all right so uh
15:44 this one was posted by notional and this is looking pretty freaking cool the
15:49 original article is from english. yonhap
15:52 news. co.kr y LG display unveils wallpaper
16:00 OLED panel look at that the thing on the
16:06 right jeez so this OLED display you can see is
16:13 being uh is being lifted up so you can see the thickness you can see it's not
16:17 just embedded in the wall like a total cheat um this OLED display is less than
16:22 1 mm thick weighs less than 5 lb for a
16:28 1.9 kg yeah 1.9 thank you that's an
16:31 exact weight uh and what was that for a 55 in 55 in OLED panel less than 5
16:37 pounds oh wait what yes and uh they're
16:40 saying that their sales targets for OLED panels is
16:44 6,25 and almost triple that of 1.5
16:48 million for 2016 and that apparently LCDs took 10 years to reach these kinds
16:54 of manufacturing yields so LG given that
16:57 they're one of the few that is inv in heavily in OLED versus just kind of
17:02 continuing to push the bar on LCD and trying to sell more LCD this could put
17:06 LG in a fantastic position when it comes to
17:11 anything with a display on it because OLED has some compelling advantages
17:16 whether we're talking about mobile devices where they save power and where
17:20 or whether we're talking about really anything else with a display where they
17:23 save thickness and they increase contrast ratio and all of those things
17:27 are good uh cently they're also planning what was it a 99
17:32 in uh yes 99 in as big as a this year for
17:38 this year 99 in OLED panel and given how
17:41 much room you're saving in terms of deploying things what I want to know is
17:44 how you're going to plug anything into it I mean I guess you'll just have to
17:48 have you'll just have to have like a like a like a ribbon cable that goes to
17:53 like a control breakout box or what breakout box like the Mac they're going
17:57 to have to have something more consumer friendly obviously doesn't show any
18:01 cables in the thing which means it's probably plugged in through the back
18:05 yeah it's probably behind yeah um I mean remember guys that's the panel so it's
18:09 still going to need some Electronics in there it's not like we're going to get away from pcbs anytime soon but very
18:15 very impressive the fact that you'll be able to basically well I mean okay okay
18:21 we have a lot of thin TVs already but they'll be even thinner one of the
18:26 challenges apparently I was talking to Corning about this at CES um this last
18:31 year one of the challenges now that displays are getting so thin is not just
18:35 making them thinner apparently they can just do that now it's not making them
18:39 thinner it's actually making them strong enough to work at all so coring was
18:44 saying that one of the materials that they developed I think this was for I
18:48 want to say for LCDs um yeah it must have been for LCDs you wouldn't need
18:51 this for OLED um is a glass that is able
18:54 to disperse light evenly in the same way that the plastic layer in your existing
18:59 LCD TV would because apparently this gives it a lot more strength and you can
19:03 save an entire reinforcing layer that
19:06 awesome you would have otherwise needed um not that for me it really makes any
19:11 particular difference I think my TV is about this thick and I've never thought
19:15 to myself you know if only my TV was an
19:18 inch thinner yeah then that show would
19:21 look better it's still it's still cool that that's an option cuz if you went to the store and it was the same price and
19:26 that much thinner that's you might as well yeah like that's it's but you're
19:30 right and if your TV I wouldn't rush to the store and replace your TV your TV is
19:33 fine if your TV is like a piece of furniture if it's like a you know a show
19:38 if your house is all like modern and amazing like mine will never ever be
19:43 because there's no way I could spend that kind of money to replace things I
19:46 already own um but if you're into that sort of thing then I'm sure you'll be
19:50 into this sort of thing yeah and we can all be into things and that's cool
19:55 that's fine um Toyota Prius batteries
19:58 apparently targeted by car thieves this was posted by WTO 165 I guess it was a
20:03 matter of time because if thieves are going to steal the copper out of power
20:08 lines and risk getting killed that
20:11 happened not way too long ago like relatively close to here did it really
20:15 yeah I think they were stealing it out of like an abandoned theater or
20:19 something there you go but the power hadn't been turned off to the theater
20:23 well there you go so ripping copper wire out and just yeah and there you go Bad
20:27 News Bears that's how it my friends so
20:30 2003 to 2009 Priuses are just kind of starting to come up on battery
20:33 replacement timings that costs around
20:37 $2500 us so it's not cheap but you can
20:41 buy them on craigslists for $900 to
20:46 $1,000 now they don't put a serial number or a VIN number on the batteries
20:51 so they're pretty much untraceable that and it's being said that you can walk
20:56 out with a Prius battery in about 20 minutes if you got a couple people now
21:01 to be clear this is not as much of an issue for a pure electric vehicle like
21:05 something like a Tesla Model S because for one it's much harder to get at the
21:09 battery and it's it's in a more secure location it's not just under the trunk
21:13 and for number two it's extremely heavy what is it 1,000 lb or something stupid
21:18 like that yeah no that's really not like Tesla Model S batteries uh weigh about
21:21 1,000 lbs about 1,000 lb compared to 150 lb for something like a hybrid vehicle
21:27 so good luck having you and your buddy haul that it's possible if you're both
21:30 really th000 lb big dudes depending on
21:34 like if you had to like bend over to lift it out or something like could be
21:38 really bad could be super bad yeah um so
21:41 yeah that seems like a pretty easy way for make a, bucks pretty quick on a
21:46 Tesla you'd have to raise the whole car
21:49 yeah and then like somehow get it out of
21:52 the bottom if it was worth enough I wonder if they'd find a way to do it
21:56 very it's probably going to happen at some point yep it'll probably happen at
22:00 some point but someone's going to go get their car repaired not at a Tesla
22:04 facility and they'll drop the the relatively new battery out and put in
22:09 some crappy one or something it's really funny the um Yahoo Auto reports that the
22:15 theft seemed to be localized to San Francisco at the moment that's not
22:20 surprising they said as if that was somehow going to be a fact that we all
22:25 didn't completely assume because I don't
22:28 remember last time I saw a Prius hybrid no no no I've only ever seen I think one
22:33 or two Teslas in Vancouver at all and in
22:37 the time we were in San Fran I think we saw one or two like at all points in
22:41 time so yeah I don't know lots of places
22:45 aren't super on the electric car thing yet um other places totally are San
22:50 Fran's huge I know Norway they were everywhere it was nuts anyways that's
22:56 it's a surprisingly large amount of money that you can get from stealing
23:00 something in a car because one thing with stealing cars is they're really
23:03 difficult to sell a lot of times you have to get rid of them for like scrap or whatnot yep um and they're not going
23:08 to have too many pieces that are worth a th000 bucks with a ready buyer ready to
23:13 rock now one thing that people are being advised to do is replace the bolts
23:18 holding in your battery with security bolts of some sort and that will help
23:22 our security nuts excuse me um but you
23:26 can also just buy those you uh mhm you
23:29 can also just buy the drivers for those you yeah you can buy the drivers for those but if everyone and their dog is
23:34 using a different kind of a kind of you know nut I mean it's going to take it's
23:37 always an arms race and thieves aren't going to be able to carry around you
23:41 know 30 oh they probably can but the likelihood anyway the point for me is
23:47 not necessarily just okay maybe they didn't steal your battery it's that they
23:50 already smashed your window and they already roughed up your car only to find
23:54 out that you've got your battery in with security nuts in which case I don't know
23:58 do they vandalize it like more right you
24:03 know do they slash your seats while they're at it that'll teach you for securing your back I don't know it
24:08 doesn't seem to help because once someone's broken into your car they've basically done the damage like I had my
24:13 car back when I used to lock my doors I had my car broken into twice to steal my
24:18 deck that was worth less than $100 costing me multiple hundreds of dollars
24:22 in window replacements so I just stopped locking my car fine if you want my deck
24:26 just take it and the funny thing is no one's taking in my deck since
24:30 then cuz I think they were they saw the deck or not they broke in seeing if
24:35 maybe there's anything else that's actually worth something and then cuz I
24:39 don't I don't know if the deck is worth breaking in for I I don't know the funny
24:43 thing is I wonder if unlocking leaving your doors unlocked will even help or if
24:47 people are just going to walk up to it assume that it's locked and break the window anyways I haven't had my window
24:51 broken since then that's true so there you go it happened twice in like 3
24:56 months back where I used to live so pretty insane yeah that was pretty not
25:00 cool all right so this is very
25:04 interesting we've got an update to the
25:07 Pentium D lineup and we're getting Zeon
25:12 D's and I'm all about the D this was posted by a Ming oh I am uh and the
25:18 original article here is from CPU dworld
25:22 Doom so we're getting a quad core
25:25 Pentium d That's a 20 5 water yeah
25:30 however I don't think we should be expecting any kinds of impressive clock
25:35 speeds for that and there doesn't seem to be any kind of information about
25:39 whether they'll be unlocked like the previous um Pentium anniversary edition
25:45 so just because Pentium D's which were
25:48 what did that stand for I think that was Pentium dual core that back when it was
25:52 actually a high-end product so just cu the Pentium D name is coming back
25:56 doesn't mean we're necessarily getting any that spectacular Although seeing a
26:00 25 watt quad core with six Megs of cach
26:03 is looking pretty cool and Zeon D's
26:06 hyper low power xeons probably very low
26:09 clock speed again with 9 or 12 Megs of cache at 35 35 and 45 watt tdps so this
26:18 is going to be great mate8 out of eight
26:22 for folks who want to build like um you know a cheapo Fraz server for example
26:27 where you need ECC memory support but you don't want to be spending multiple
26:31 hundreds of dollars on a CPU necessarily unless you're building like some
26:35 redonkulous you know massive high performance array and putting you know
26:39 10 gig Ethernet into it there's no point you might as well save the power and
26:43 save the cost and get something that's pretty
26:46 lowend there's not really a ton else to say about it I don't think there's a
26:51 yeah it's still preliminary specs it doesn't really tell us anything yeah
26:54 mostly boring stuff yep I guess we'll hear more in the relatively near future
26:59 so up next we've got this was posted by obscure maybe we know nothing about it
27:05 so yeah I I doubt it because rumors for
27:08 Intel stuff are usually really early and really accurate that's a good point so
27:13 so maybe like q1 next year I don't know
27:16 yes uh this was posted by obscure mammal on the Forum and the original article
27:21 here is from RS Technica and I'll let you you just let me post it first I'll
27:25 be back in a moment uh so it it has
27:29 infected a fair number of web servers uh
27:32 largely tens of thousands largely websites and mail server specifically
27:37 it's about 8.4% of the top 1 million websites so it's not an insane amount
27:42 but it's pry definitely noteworthy um
27:46 don't worry ours are fine anyways uh
27:50 basically what happens is you're able to weaken the https encryption uh bit key
27:57 so basically I think you can down it to 512
28:01 bits instead of 1024 above
28:05 so yeah that's kind of bad because then
28:09 people can crack it much easier researchers are already working on
28:12 developing uh patches for major browsers like Chrome Firefox and Safari which
28:18 where they will reject encryption connections that are below 1024 bits so
28:24 yeah I don't know it's really not that big of a deal yeah apparently this has
28:27 been around for a long time most of these are around for a long time to be
28:31 honest so this was established so it's basically it's just a way of snooping on
28:35 your data again and this was established by the Clinton Administration so the FBI
28:40 and other agencies could break the encryption used by Foreign entities yeah
28:45 so so honestly you probably don't have that much to worry about it's 8.4% of
28:50 websites um you that sounds pretty
28:55 worrisome uh the the the so the attack has been dubbed Log Jam yeah um and it's
29:01 can only be exploited against a subset of servers that support the Diffy Helman
29:06 key exchange so that allows the two parties to exchange a secret key over an
29:10 unsecured public channel so it basically takes that and it downgrades the
29:14 encryption so that it can be easily cracked it's it's still encrypted yes to
29:20 be clear it's like it's it's honestly not that bad it sounds a little bit
29:24 worse than it is it's not a good thing by any means but the browser guys
29:28 already releasing patches for it it's still technically encrypted they're
29:31 still going to have to fight through your stuff and it's still going to have to be kind of a man in thee middle
29:35 attack so using your already existing
29:38 knowledge as Tech folks maybe don't log into your bank on a public Wi-Fi
29:44 network yeah um and like have different
29:47 passwords for things it's it's not great it's a bad thing but there's been much
29:52 worse in recent history in terms of like online virus stuff isn't that a sad
29:57 State of Affairs is kind of a sad State of Affairs but like that has to be your
30:00 spin on this to say it is though that's what you have to say it is like stuff
30:04 like heart bed was way worse right um
30:07 and whatever the other recent ones were I just remember heart bed because the
30:11 name is really cool um but yeah Log Jam
30:15 not a good thing not as bad as it maybe sounds immediately I'm trying to
30:19 remember what some of the like some of the expit with like really cool names
30:24 were like Blaster virus Ms blaster
30:28 cool named viruses is someone really going to have
30:32 you know it's the internet of course list of viruses list of oh oh no no oh
30:37 the top 10 most destructive computer viruses there you go fourth hit of
30:42 course everyone's going to have like someone on the Internet is going to have
30:45 a list like that I'm excited right now so what do we got stck net that's not
30:49 that cool that's not that cool sounding conficker no that's not cool sounding no
30:54 Zeus Zeus I my dude Doom yeah my Doom is cool my
31:00 Doom might win okay so uh let's go ahead
31:03 and Slammer code red okay okay mic a
31:07 little old Microsoft reveals upgrade paths to Windows 10 this was posted by
31:12 Good Bites and the original article here is win beta.org
31:16 so nothing too surprising here if you
31:20 have Windows 7 or eight or 8.1 within
31:23 the first 12 months you get a free upgrade to Windows 10 this we already
31:27 knew so the main difference here is that they're explaining well which version
31:32 you have which corresponds to which version of Windows 10 one thing I was
31:36 wondering about here though is wasn't there a Windows 10 ultimate I don't
31:40 think so where's that Windows 10 versions list that we had uh that's from
31:44 last week cuz there's like 100 bazillion versions of it but I think in terms of
31:49 what they're selling in a box to customers it's going to pretty much be
31:52 Windows 10 home Windows 10 Pro okay so
31:55 if you have Windows 8 or 8.1 you get Windows 10 home if you have Windows 7
31:59 Home basic which is cool or Home Premium
32:02 you get Windows 10 home what an upgrade W that's pretty cool yeah so if basic
32:07 that's sick if you cheaped out on Windows 7 Home basic which had like I
32:13 forget what the limitations are like when four gigs of RAM I think was it 4
32:17 gigs I think so and it like I know there's a RAM limitation of some sort
32:22 yeah I I was it even two gigs of R it
32:25 might have been two I don't remember what it was I just remember it was really it was brutal it was available in
32:29 Emerging Markets some Windows Arrow
32:32 options were excluded um activation restrictions blah
32:38 blah blah anyway yeah it was it was lame
32:41 and someone to Twitch chat's going to tell us yeah of course they are um so
32:45 you are actually going to get an upgrade to Windows 10 real deal is it home basic
32:51 okay no four gigs four gigs people are saying both yeah okay four gigs yeah
32:55 maximum phys starter was two gigs St was 2 gigs that's yeah that's the brutal one
33:00 so um 32-bit is four 64-bit you could
33:03 have 8 gigs of RAM um you there was a
33:07 64-bit version available but not in retail SKS so that's another cool thing
33:11 is you're going to be able to upgrade to a 64-bit OS if you only had a 32-bit one
33:15 that's cool partial support for Windows Arrow uh no built-in DVD decoder um no
33:22 multi-touch support no Windows Media Center no premium games included any
33:28 cares about that um no encrypting file
33:31 system no group policies no Windows XP modes so no backwards compatibility ease
33:37 of ease of use thing I've used that before it's been very useful like lots
33:41 of things basically it's like a g ginormous just total poo column of red
33:47 total poo yeah so this this is it here so super cool and then if you have uh
33:52 Windows 7 or Windows 8 ultimate or
33:55 professional then you're going to get a copy of Windows 10 Pro yeah so those
33:59 that all makes sense those ultimate folks they just never really got
34:02 anything for their money did they no no they did not remember remember when
34:07 Vista launched and Microsoft had all those promises about ultimate and like
34:12 the additional like cool stuff it was going to
34:16 get I guess they get an update to Windows
34:19 10 no they don't cuz that was visc they
34:22 get nothing that would be cool if Microsoft was like okay do you have this
34:28 invol installed if you actually spent
34:32 $250 or whatever it was on Windows Vista
34:37 ultimate we're going to give you Windows 10 they should have just randomly like
34:41 four years down the line been like you all get free office uh 365 for 4 years
34:46 or something like that they should have just done something like we like you guys cuz like I remember there was like
34:51 ultimate extras on like the install disc and they were stupid and I just like
34:57 what is this rubbish so like anyone installing a legitimate OS you could
35:01 tell who was pirating cuz they'd have Windows Vista ultimate well yeah no one
35:06 really installed it if they bought it I worked in Tech shops at that point in
35:10 time so you you you'd go and you'd be updating the machine you go to Windows update and there's all the language
35:14 packs and it's just
35:17 like just INE obviously PIR just in case you wanted Croatian yeah yeah well I'm
35:23 just like okay well there's no way this
35:26 dude has a legit version of Windows at all looking looking at how his setup is
35:31 running and just like Windows Ultimate
35:34 makes zero sense in almost any build let alone this one all right so let's move
35:39 on to our next one another article from RS Technica and the original poster here
35:44 is Sam Fisher what stealthy
35:48 celebrity um AMD confirms four Gigabyte
35:53 limit for first hbm graphics card now to be clear um um that headline is a little
36:00 bit misleading because it says 4 gab
36:04 limit um I mean the amount of memory on
36:08 a graphics card could be defined as the limit to the memory on it but that
36:13 doesn't necessarily mean that the rumored R9 390x will never get an 8 gig
36:18 version right all that means is that it's going to be a 4 gig card so calling
36:23 it a limit is true but just that is
36:26 super sketchy though really wonky that's all so basically the way that hbm works
36:32 and the problems with gddr5 are that it takes up a lot of
36:37 space which requires a lot of traces on the PCB it uses a lot of power so gddr5
36:44 has increased in the last three years by
36:48 what like one gig of transfer per second
36:52 in terms of like the stock clock speeds on cards like it it it's at the limit to
36:57 the point where AMD is saying if we push gddr5 any further we're going to use up
37:02 so much of that power budget that they have to build a graphics card because if
37:06 they want it to be PCI Express compliant it has to fit within a certain power
37:10 envelope they're going to use up so much of that addressing RAM that they're not
37:14 going to have enough left to build a GPU that's powerful enough to drive
37:17 performance forward with that said NVIDIA hasn't had any trouble I was just
37:22 going to say um I don't know maybe just
37:25 make your GPU more efficient yeah the could be a thing well remember a big
37:29 part of the problem right now is that smaller manufacturing processes are not
37:33 readily available to the GPU Guys these are large complicated chips and we're
37:37 only just now finally seeing Intel
37:41 rolling out 14 nmet CPUs uh Beyond those
37:45 core M like you know for like Ultra
37:48 books and tablets and stuff processors we're only just now seeing rumors that
37:53 Samsung's going to be manufacturing the upcoming A9 chip for Apple at 14 NM so
37:58 GPU guys I mean how far down are they on
38:01 the pecking order compared to apple and like Intel making its own stuff in its
38:07 own Fabs that it doesn't lease to others no so
38:11 never can you imagine an AMD Graphics chip being manufactured by
38:18 Intel in a in a world I literally can't
38:21 I can't even join your story I literally can't imagine you're just not even going
38:25 to you're not going to walk down this you go down this rabbit hole with me hey
38:29 just imagine how screwy that would be I mean would Intel be able to talk them
38:33 into having like you know like a little I even you know and like a year number
38:38 like date stamped on like I I I don't know if I would even
38:43 want to see that just do like double digit things so I13 I15 I
38:50 17 um okay what else can we say about it so I 17 graphics card so AMD says one
38:56 gab of of gddr5 takes up 672 mm squ of
39:01 space versus a 1 GB stack so they have
39:04 like these through fars through the Stacked memory of hbm that takes up just
39:09 35 mm squar so this is something that's kind of funny because one of the renders
39:14 floating around of the 390x had it as like a stubby card with the amount of
39:20 space that AMD is saving on the PCB what what are they going to put on it yeah
39:24 really power delivery and a GPU and like
39:29 little like four four memory chips cuz like remember like one of the marks of a
39:34 high-end card was like the big PCB with
39:37 like you know 12 memory chips on each
39:40 side of it because it had so much RAM well we're not necessarily even going to
39:44 need that anymore I mean one approach could be that we could start putting 16
39:47 to 24 gigs of r on GP 64 gigs of RAM but
39:53 I I don't think we're at a point yet where the data entire game into VR yeah
39:57 like the data Integrity is not even going to be high enough to put that much
40:01 memory on a GPU at this stage you you'd have to put ECC memory on it that would
40:07 be pretty cool though if you could load the whole game into all the gamees
40:11 texture files into vram you know what this actually uh ties in pretty well to
40:15 uh a tweet a tweet oh this is from my uh my
40:21 good buddy Johan Anderson okay I met him once but he's really nice super nice um
40:27 super nice he is like the guy for frostbite so there you go this actually
40:34 looks a lot like that looks really nice the
40:37 render um okay so hold on does it look like a stubby
40:41 card yeah is that the end of the
40:45 card maybe it could also just be a shiny
40:48 part and that could be the end of the black oh oh I'm not screen sharing I'm
40:52 sorry very good there we go very very good so we're just wondering if this is
40:55 I don't know because you can yeah I see that see the pixels you could definitely
40:59 be right it could also just be a shiny reflection thing
41:03 enhance enhance no I think so yeah no
41:07 you could now that we've enhanced it now that yes it was only because of the
41:10 enhancement I didn't wave my hand enough enhance enhance zoom in there zoom in
41:15 you press the hot key while I wave my hand enhance enhance
41:21 why why I want to see that emoji closer
41:26 emoji it's happy should I should I keep call should I keep calling them emot
41:31 emoticons cuz like I'm the older generation that's that's what we used to
41:35 call them an emoticon wait they're different is an an
41:39 emoji the icon well we used to call the
41:42 we used to call you mean like the image based ones right yeah we used to call
41:45 those emoticons too yeah yeah I did yeah
41:49 so are Emoji like a specific thing this
41:52 could be a great discussion topic Emoji versus emoticon the
41:58 guardian.com has an article from February we should do a fast as possible
42:02 on this Alex Hearn sets the record straight once and for all okay I have to
42:08 know I do too I'm interested I'll read with you they are not the same thing
42:13 okay and this is bold the continued confusion of the two will not
42:18 stand it's not bold actually um but I wish it was at issue was a piece of
42:23 information that the Silk Road Founders lawyer suggested was critically
42:27 important yet was emitted by federal prosecutors an emoji symbol is sometimes
42:32 calls a version of a smiley face an
42:35 emoticon is a typographic display of a facial representation like this and
42:41 there you go it looks like you're right an emoji is apparently an actual picture
42:48 yeah okay so like your your little Skype
42:51 or Google Hangouts little Emoji things
42:54 are emojis and actually typing like colon bracket is aoon so Emoji are
42:59 treated by the computer this is an important distinction so the reason we
43:03 care is not because the meaning is different but because Emoji are treated
43:06 by the computer as letters from A nonwestern language in much the same way
43:10 that a Japanese or Chinese character would which also means that the software
43:15 has to explicitly support them so all
43:18 this makes perfect sense to me now I think this distinction must have come
43:22 later because to my knowledge MSN
43:27 messenger which is where I cut my teeth on online chat sort of I guess I was
43:31 also on uh uh what was that other one icq right I wasn't I was messenger
43:37 forever only messenger you're you're too young for icq pretty much like it was
43:42 already dying yeah it was dying it was falling off pretty quick I knew people
43:45 that had it I knew people that wanted me to get it but it was like kind of falling out of Grace So MSN Messenger
43:50 called call them emoticons or emoticons even once even once that uh once they
43:56 had like real images in it so yeah all right well oh oh right we should
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46:15 ones are the ones that I thought were important um but it turns out I was
46:20 using the blue ones in a lot of situations where I was actually supposed
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46:29 it's not about the ESD I thought that one was ESD uh it's about the fact that
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46:53 recently what uh in the screwdriver kit
46:57 one of these ones at the top is not a socket it's actually a magnet oh no way
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48:05 didn't know that part of it yeah I'm not no I think you told me that before I
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48:45 big one that they've added in the time that we've actually been talking about them on W show store software is like
48:50 way better than ours I've kind of been thinking about just redirecting like the
48:53 button that you click we should probably actually do that yeah straight up I was
48:57 thinking about that too and then I forgot to tell you it's it's an idea
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49:21 it it's in the notes I know it's in the notes I'm just following the notes all
49:26 right so this is the part where I don't screw over Nick because I wasn't talking
49:30 about getting all the sponsor reads wrong not that that hasn't happened
49:33 before Nick and I have a bet this is a
49:37 pretty serious business bet it's a lot
49:41 more serious than I think he's really going to put on yeah I'm not going to
49:44 tell you guys what it is but if you're subscribed to Channel Super Fun you are
49:47 going to see the result one way or another and it's going to either be
49:51 amazing or really unpleasant so pretty much we have much
49:56 you're screwed finally I have refused
50:00 for so long he's pushed for it y Nick's
50:04 pushed for it my wife's pushed for it everyone has wanted this for quite some
50:10 time can you post that please give just a plain linest Tech tips shirt I always
50:16 kind of went so like if you feel like why would I want a linest tech tips logo
50:19 on my chest I've always been with you it never made any sense to me lonus Tech
50:24 tips to me was like not the kind of I just it's not that I didn't want one
50:29 like I'm proud to wear it but I just I wasn't I didn't know that our viewers
50:33 were going to be like would be amped up about like just a plain clean Linus Tech
50:37 tips shirt so I refused to make one I was like no let's have like bro fist on
50:42 the front or like you know a picture of a
50:45 cat naughty word on it and all those are great things but we are finally doing it
50:51 a lius tech tips shirt now this one will be available in the long term on some
50:57 store actually it might be not on District ls.com but somewhere else more
51:01 details it'll be in the link of the description of the video that we tell you it's on yeah it'll be somewhere but
51:06 for now it's on Teespring as a limited edition campaign and the only difference
51:10 between this one and the ones that'll be available later are that these ones as a
51:16 nod to the people who love to be first
51:19 say first on the back we love you guys
51:23 please don't comment on our videos but we're still going to Pander You by
51:27 releasing a shirt that says first on the back although if you comment on the
51:31 video and say first and then link a an image to you wearing the shirt with
51:35 first on the back then we'll still hate you but it'll
51:40 be less not as much yeah there you go slightly lower it's never really
51:45 bothered me that much like I've actually done it on my own videos like before I
51:48 said it live I'll post first I like that just cuz I'm just CU I'm kind of a troll
51:53 by Nature um but the internet at large
51:57 will definitely hate you yes for for posting first with your first shirt so
52:01 there you go apparently 14 of them are gone already how quickly did that
52:04 happened everyone in uh everyone in chat is already saying first all over the
52:09 place excellent all right so there you go guys we finally have a lonus tech tip
52:13 shirt they're on teesprings so they'll be Avail sometime in the summer you'll
52:17 actually receive it they've actually gotten faster in the time we've been using them so that's cool let's move on
52:22 to more topics shall we more topics
52:26 W what do we got oh here we go ah yes
52:30 more AMD news word on the street is that
52:35 AMD's Fiji so the rumored 390x what Nick
52:39 will retail at why are you here I thought you guys were still talking
52:42 about shirts I just wanted to say we have lots of different variations available including ladies shirts you
52:46 should get them yeah we have ladies shirts we have L Shir we have ladi's
52:50 v-neck a lady's tank top and a lady's regular t-shirt no way I'm getting one
52:53 for my wife freaking a lot of just like men's or whatever oh that's cool when
52:59 she doesn't wear it I'm going to be like super sad when what when when my wife
53:03 doesn't wear it I'm just going be like
53:06 get her seven of them we should them we should all get uh women's shirts for the
53:11 respective ladies in our lives and then just like like I'll go in for my mom and
53:15 my mom will wear it but like no one else will and then when we don't see them
53:19 wearing it just be like why not why don't you like my are you not proud of
53:24 me why don't you wear the shirt sorry Hi
53:27 chat thanks guys all right so this is
53:30 from fudzilla decom is it the single
53:34 most uh reputable site on the internet no but fudo also gets it right a fair
53:40 amount of uh a fair amount of the time fudo uh F add it fudo is his nickname
53:46 okay yeah okay yeah I didn't know his nickname was fudo he is also jumping on
53:51 my bandwagon about that other headline about the 4 Gig limit uh 4 gig first 8
53:56 gig to follow apparently I do know that 8 gigs is more complicated and I do I
54:01 have heard rumors that the hbm chips uh
54:04 yields are not fantastic so a high-capacity card might be
54:08 prohibitively expensive not that NVIDIA mind's releasing a graphics card for
54:12 $1,000 anyway but um slightly more than
54:15 that AMD is being the value solution again and aiming apparently for around
54:20 850 bucks value solution 850 bucks
54:23 somewhere between the Titan X and the GeForce GTX 980 I don't know if we can
54:30 call it the value solution I don't know if I'm okay with that with that said
54:35 that's really expensive for a value solution there are rumors hey saving
54:40 $150 is saving $150 yeah but it's a card for like over
54:47 $800 and it does only have four gigs of memory compared to Titan X's
54:54 12 okay we we'll we'll we we we'll wait
54:57 for the performance stuff I just don't know if you can say it's a value card we
55:00 also really need to see what the counter is going to be from the Green Camp
55:05 because there's a lot of rumors floating around about a GTX 980 TI a lot of
55:11 rumors floating around I've seen some rumors about that particular thing um
55:16 but what we don't know anything about is is pricing so if NVIDIA released a 980
55:23 TI would they price it more similar ly
55:26 to the GTX 9980 now and drop the price
55:29 of the 980 really putting in the thumb screws on AMD potentially unless the
55:34 390x crushes the Titan X which we don't know yeah that's true I think honestly
55:39 they'll play very reactionary if they need to they'll drop it they've done
55:42 that before if they don't need to they won't drop it they've done that before
55:46 here's the funny thing though the funny thing is this I guarantee you AMD knows
55:51 everything there is to know about the 980 TI right now and NVIDIA knows
55:55 everything there is to know about the 390x right
55:59 now probably they probably even have cards like straight
56:04 up so whatever happens is just going to be
56:09 like it's like it's like a game of like cards where they just can both see each
56:13 other's cards so just cuz you know how we've seen it time and time again in the
56:17 last couple of years where every card that launches slots in perfectly with
56:22 the rest of the landscape both of these cards are just going to make perfect
56:25 sense depending on whether you have $850 to spend or however much a 980 TI costs
56:31 I can't wait for you to do a value build log with an $850 graphics card that
56:36 would be awesome you should just try to find the cheapest possible way to build
56:42 all the rest of the computer and then keep it under a gr no dog the the intro
56:46 the intro for scrapyard Wars eBay all the parts except for except for the
56:53 graphics card the intro for that video right itself because remember there was
56:58 that whole headline with Lisa Sue AMD CEO saying they don't want to be known
57:02 as the value solution an $850 graphics card you guys
57:07 keep releasing those you're going to be the value solution
57:13 forever oh my God we could troll the crap out of them that would be hilarious
57:18 super awesome that would be kind of a fun idea for a build though put in like
57:24 the cheapest stuff that will be able to actually run that graphics card but with
57:29 modern things and see how it goes all
57:33 right so this is actually this is actually going to be uh this actually
57:38 ties in pretty well so we've got we're going to do a Twitter Blitz here all
57:43 right and this is always my favorite kind of question because it's the
57:47 question where there is no answer there's just speculation so many people
57:52 ask me this all the time like what is going to be the graphics card to buy of
57:58 the Next Generation because it looks like it's going to be 980 tii versus
58:03 390x and this is actually about um or
58:08 wait that doesn't really tie in that well you know what let's do it anyway so
58:12 we're going to do it as a straw pull instead since it's fair a fairly easy
58:16 question to answer so GTX 780 Ti versus
58:22 r9390x and I'm just even speculating yes
58:25 no and what is yes and no to this question
58:29 oh right those aren't really very okay I'm sorry
58:34 GT it's like what the heck is that 780
58:37 Ti yeah oh crap that so is the title
58:41 what are you doing what am I even doing why is the 780 Ti the only card that
58:46 exists in my mind because they're nerfing it are they what have you heard
58:52 the news they Nerf what what there's people talking about news NVIDIA driver
58:57 revisions I don't know how this didn't end up in the dock but apparently new NVIDIA driver revisions are making the
59:01 7080 TI a little bit worse 780 Ti yeah
59:06 really cuz I heard about them I I I haven't looked into it enough to talk
59:09 about it in depth but I heard about them possibly nerfing the overclocking on the
59:13 970m and 980m again interesting no this
59:16 is desktop card stuff though um um I haven't I haven't had time to try it I
59:21 do kind of want to check it out how fascinating it could also just
59:25 be fixed in the very next driver right so it's also possible I am trying to
59:31 post the straw poll I do not straight up remember my twitch password so that is
59:36 very challenging for me at this time I'm a challenged sort of person and it
59:40 doesn't really help when the chat loads phenomenally slowly here we
59:45 go there's our
59:48 strle oh wait where' my link to it go there it is this is what happens when
59:53 you have oh that's not it when you have like 300 bazillion tabs so let's see the
59:57 results as they roll in and let's move on into our next topic what do we
60:02 got apparently 22% of you are going to put a turnup in your next
60:07 computer huh I didn't know we had that many Xbox Gamers watching this stream
60:15 oh D YouTube launches 60 FPS live streaming
60:20 in quest to take on Twitch this is posted on the
60:24 brige was posted on the Forum by tangra
60:28 there you know what the funny thing about these straw poles is what is it just straight up doesn't matter how long
60:33 we look at the results after the first like 10 seconds the proportion never
60:37 changes yeah it's like it's like how big
60:40 of a sample size is enough apparently the first 10 seconds cuz it's like done
60:47 and let's see everyone okay okay let's see if we can even change it if we want
60:50 to guys if you haven't voted get in there turn it power come on vote for
60:56 turnip vote for turnup # vote for turnup
60:59 yes we got to bring the turnup in line
61:02 with the 980 TI or beat it okay come on
61:06 turnip and I've enabled actually this is news we didn't even okay so I'm going to
61:10 put away the straw pole so you guys can't see if it's working how beautiful that is how could you not vote for that
61:15 there's a new feature on Twitch so before we get into YouTube 60fps
61:19 streaming twitch has a new feature that has um shortened the delay remember back
61:25 when they changed their server configuration so that there was that
61:29 massive up to over a minute delay between stream and chat now there is a
61:33 beta feature that you can go ahead and enable within your dashboard in order to
61:38 sorry I can't keep a straight face turn beating 390x turn it power man um yes
61:47 come on so is this how politicians win
61:50 elections it's just if we tell them hard enough to vote for it they turn
61:56 yes this is what campaigning is all about that's right that's why going door
62:01 Todo Works kids for turnup we should just go door
62:06 to door leave turnips on the doorsteps like a little toothpick in it a little
62:09 sign vote for turnup next time there's a local election verman Supreme just goes
62:14 around and leaves boots with little turnips in the top on everyone's store
62:18 awesome how many people would get that reference so twitch has a new feature that allows us to interact with you guys
62:23 more closely does it bring it back to the way it was before no but I think
62:30 it's able to shorten it up to like 15 to 20 seconds or something like that like
62:34 definitely significant difference a better yeah yeah it's a lot better so
62:37 very very good news it's better to the point where you're not waiting like 2
62:41 minutes for a response because you type it in then it takes so long for him to
62:44 see it and then he says and it takes so long for you to see it and it's just
62:48 ridiculous all right so the original article here is from The Verge let's go
62:51 ahead and fire that up
62:58 so what is there really oh no I just closed the dog way to go I'll be there
63:02 in a moment there isn't a ton to specifically say other than the title
63:06 but it is interesting that YouTube is trying this hard there's been a huge
63:10 we've talked about this a little bit in previous shows but there's been a huge
63:14 push for online video in general um
63:17 streaming especially I'd actually say with isubu getting tons of funding
63:21 lately um twitch continuing to completely explode which just being
63:27 absolutely insane acquired by Amazon not exactly a small deal Google trying to
63:32 kind of start a fight which looks a lot more interesting than isu's so far not
63:37 super successful push but anyway the thing about YouTube is that and there's
63:42 there's something that they have to overcome here is that Google finally
63:45 woke up to the fact that gaming content is popular on YouTube and has decided to
63:51 actually give two craps about it at all
63:54 so it took them so long there was never any reason for twitch to be allowed to
63:58 exist YouTube could have easily
64:01 supported these features before and maybe twitch would have never been able
64:06 to spring up out of completely the woodwork and just completely dominate
64:11 online game streaming but the good news for YouTube is that twitch is not
64:17 interested right now in being a video
64:20 repository so Gamers have had to kind of
64:24 support both platforms forms because if you want to Archive anything and have it
64:28 be actually discoverable on you know the what is it the second largest search
64:32 engine or whatever that thing Everyone likes to say is second largest search
64:36 engine in the world they want to be discoverable they have to support
64:39 YouTube even if their followings aren't as big over there and if they want to
64:43 live stream twitch has been the only way to do it because that's where you get
64:46 the actual support for things like third
64:49 party streaming software like xplit which we love um or if you want to say
64:54 for example stream at FPS which people love we stream at resolutions other than
64:58 1080p which people love so you have to support these two platforms so guys like
65:04 us who are heavily invested in YouTube yeah actually have a pretty decent
65:09 presence on Twitch if the push ever came to shove and we wanted to start
65:13 investing in twitch more heavily and many twitch streamers maybe they don't
65:17 have you know 1.3 million subscribers on
65:21 YouTube or whatever the number is maybe they've got 800 or 880,000 or 15 ,000 or
65:26 something like that compared to a massive following on Twitch well hey
65:29 that's not insignificant either a huge part of building a channel is that first
65:34 20 or 30 or 50,000 you work so much
65:38 harder for the first 100,000 subscribers than you do for a subsequent
65:43 250,000 that's the way it works once you gain critical mass I mean if you were
65:48 never going to hit 100,000 subscribers then like none of this is applicable but
65:52 if you were going to get big you work so much harder for it at the beginning
65:56 um so you know very interesting I don't
66:00 necessarily see it changing immediately
66:03 yeah I really wonder how this is going to go because twitch has such a good
66:06 relationship with all the game streamers they bring them out to shows like the
66:09 twitch booths that shows are insane they directly support them in so many
66:14 different ways and they're just so like the connections and networking that
66:17 twitch has is so incredibly strong and at least in our experience the whole
66:23 networking and connections and support side from Google is really not great
66:29 Google's an engineering company yes and twitch seems to be they seem to have a
66:34 much better feel for what it means to be a relationship company and there's
66:38 really interesting things on Twitch which is going to keep streamers there like uh openly being able to do donate
66:44 stuff with no problems you're able to do contests not really able to do but
66:48 happens all the time everywhere and kind of everyone ignores it um there's
66:53 subscribe buttons which helps people a ton can get icons if you subscribe which
66:57 helps people a ton with that said some of these features exist or will exist on
67:01 YouTube as well and YouTube's um like
67:05 like kind of pay pass you know some kind of Premium paid option feature that's
67:09 been rumored forever I don't I don't know like yeah like U like more like
67:14 what vessel's doing I thought you talking about the tip jar I got it no not that one more like what vessel's
67:18 doing where there's a paid YouTube and you just don't see any ads um that's
67:22 been rumored for a long time and that could come along in put a lot of money
67:26 in streamer Pockets if you know they're rolling ads at will and people who are
67:31 paying a monthly subscription and like only watching that stream or effectively
67:35 giving them a few bucks and the volume could be potentially much higher I mean
67:39 YouTube is a huge huge audience as PewDiePie can certainly attest to I
67:44 wonder if um I wonder if there's some form of
67:49 exclusivity agreement in the twitch contract because it would be
67:53 interesting if you just streamed uh to
67:58 both which is possible yeah it's not impossible that's
68:03 for sure it would be need more upload not super easy but it would definitely
68:07 be possible you could both yeah I mean you'll always have to have a primary and
68:12 that's something that we've discovered is that when we say don't forget to
68:15 subscribe only YouTube has subscribe I say follow yeah I and I've
68:21 started saying follow too but there's a lot of other things too like Click The
68:24 annotation other video platforms don't support annotations so if we started
68:28 uploading on Billy Billy for example if it's a if it's a uh stream you can
68:33 address that much more easily sort of and like you can mix your chats and
68:36 stuff okay something a lot of streamers do is subscriber only chat so are they
68:41 just going to ignore the YouTube chat and just talk to their twitch I don't
68:45 know that's interesting yeah because there'll be a lot of spam in that YouTube chat unless there's a subscriber
68:49 only mode and then what are you going to ask for subscribers on both are you going to monitor two chat Windows come
68:52 on that's tough uh there's there will
68:55 definitely be there guys who do it browser hook which mixes those chats and
69:00 then that's a total mess because then they can't see each other not that
69:05 anyone can really talk to each other in a half no I mean for the streamer oh for
69:08 the streamer streamer can monitor everything y but I don't know it's just
69:12 it will fragment it for sure the degree to which it does it I don't know but it
69:17 will fragment it for sure
69:20 um okay so let me have you know what
69:25 this is this is our next Twitter Blitz and this is actually from Lenovo has
69:30 their upcoming Tech world event and there's a couple of hashtags that we
69:34 want you guys to use in it so we haven't done a Twitter Blitz in a while and this
69:38 one is pretty much open-ended so it's we're supposed to
69:42 talk about what we think is next and it's for the upcoming Tech world event
69:47 so I'm assuming if I were to talk about uh house plants that have genes injected
69:52 into them that make them glow well I guess that's kind of tech isn't it yeah
69:56 okay but let's talk let's talk computer tech so I want you guys to post about
70:01 what you think is next at Linus tech on Twitter use these two hashtags Boop at
70:07 Linus on Twitter and we're going to go ahead we're going to Blitz through you
70:10 guys in the next little while here um
70:15 and and it can be vag so do you want me to go first sure okay so for me what's
70:20 next whether I like it or not is wires
70:23 are going away that is something that is
70:27 kind like I've been I've been kind of inching towards this for a while you
70:32 look at uh you look at Intel's what is it 50 50 GHz or whatever that stupid uh
70:39 what's the 58 GHz I don't remember exactly what it is the the the very the
70:44 very short range Wi-Fi or the very short range Wireless someone's going to
70:49 correct me
70:52 um short range one Wireless high speed I
70:57 think it was that like gigabit speeds or something something ridiculous like that
71:00 high blah blah y gig 60 GHz there we go
71:04 um so you know seeing technology like that demoed and actually working seeing
71:10 companies like apple so the MacBook 2015 was the thing that kind of feels like
71:15 wow someone's already doing this so when
71:18 you go on apple.com they've got the iPhone the
71:24 iPad they've got the MacBook and they've got
71:29 the I the eyew watch they've got the Apple watch and they've got them all
71:34 arranged in like uh I can't find the page right now um but they've got them
71:38 all arranged and it just says better together and what struck me about those
71:43 products is that none of them encourage
71:47 external connectivity they all encourage cloud-based storage they all encourage
71:53 uh or and cloud-based backup
71:56 they all encage between the devices
71:59 without it without pluging and you know
72:03 whether you're one of those people who believes Apple when they say DSLR like
72:07 photo quality or whether you're one of those people who's like uh no I'm still
72:12 going to need a USB cable and a card reader to transfer photos off my real
72:15 freaking camera whoever you are Apple is
72:18 trying to push that future forward today and if they're trying to do it then
72:23 someone's going to come along and take that concept and clone it and do it
72:27 better once the technology catches up a little bit and that future I think is
72:30 coming wireless charging wireless data
72:34 and the the camera that I'm borrowing right now can transfer pictures to my
72:38 phone over NFC that's cool yeah so there you go
72:43 still so there you go that's what that's what I think is what's next is wires are
72:48 just going to be gone completely gone I
72:52 think uh personally solar power is going
72:55 to be a much bigger thing um the efficiency of the panels themselves and
73:02 the efficiency of storage mechanisms have massively massively increased over
73:06 the last little while home batter is a big deal he yeah yeah uh there's a study
73:10 that just came out of MIT talking about how we need to focus on it much more
73:14 because there's just so much available power it's not even like oh well it's
73:19 better for the planet derp derp it's just like no there's a lot of it and
73:24 it's super available and it's sitting right there and it's really not hard to
73:28 take advantage of and it's literally there whether we like it or not yeah
73:32 like it's super easy unless Mr Burns builds a sun blocker we're kind of stuck
73:37 with the sun yeah yeah um Burns all
73:40 right so let's have a look at what you guys think we we never do Twitter blitzes anymore speak which I wanted to
73:45 one of the oh I should talk to you about
73:48 perspective projects not on the way show oh okay Amy says the sixs gotcha
73:55 okay um no idea but it better be shiny
73:59 gpus coming from the manufacturer with water cooling being more common than
74:04 ones with air cooling that is an out there prediction that is a very out
74:08 there prediction I think that will probably never happen I think water
74:12 cooled out of the box is going to be not a thing for a while Kevin Hall says
74:17 virtual reality contact lenses dear Lord would I ever love for that to be next I
74:21 don't think that's next that's and hopefully augmented reality cuz VR
74:26 contact lenses how do I take them out
74:29 when I want to see it's like I want to eat my food yeah you're going to have to
74:34 have a camera somewhere for augmented reality sort no cuz if you can see
74:38 augmented reality if you can see through them then augmented reality is fine and
74:42 if they were VR you couldn't see through them so you'd have to like wear head
74:46 mounted camera then and that have to like connect to them mind you if there
74:49 are no wires and if I'm right and no wires is next then this will be later
74:54 and there won't be any but then that doesn't mean it's next that doesn't mean it's next um although did you hear about
74:59 the uh bionic uh bionic lenses yeah as a
75:04 yeah so that's some pretty freaking cool stuff I don't have an article to show
75:07 you guys or anything but my wife and I were talking about apparently in the
75:10 next two to three years bionic lenses are coming with all the advantages and
75:14 none of the drawbacks of surgeries like lasic so uh wow um yeah like they don't
75:21 degrade over time you're not going to need glasses later so I should just
75:25 still not buy glasses no you should still get glasses he wants it's coming
75:28 in like 2 or three years he wants me to buy him a bigger
75:32 teleprompter so that he doesn't have to buy we should have a bigger teleprompter
75:36 anyways so that he doesn't have to buy glasses no we should have a bigger teleprompter anyways okay so our
75:40 teleprompter is crap even today filming
75:43 it's like the text on the screen is jumping all over that's the best app you
75:48 should see the other something that isn't based on an app you should see the
75:51 other ones oh I I believe it but get something that's not based on an app all
75:55 right next is another interesting VR presentation yeah okay most likely VR
75:59 movies that is not next but I do hope I
76:02 mean I think they're kind of called video games because to shoot a movie in
76:06 VR and like have it be like how would you even get a camera rig that records
76:11 in all directions so they're already working on that stuff yeah like they
76:14 have 360 the camera yeah they have that
76:17 but how could you shoot it in a way
76:21 that it like I think it would actually detract from the movie watching
76:26 experience in certain ways like there's probably been a it will be a totally
76:30 different style like super different style that's one thing to part of the
76:35 part of the movie experience is the filmmaker U the filmmaker's control over
76:40 your emotions and your experience you're having the experience that they give you
76:44 otherwise you might as well play a game yeah so yeah so yeah here we go so
76:50 this is an article from The Verge from like January this year so you hide from
76:54 a cyber or something like that I don't
76:57 see movies moving there I see movies and games moving closer together as opposed
77:02 to VR movies so yes do agree Alan I
77:05 don't think it's next and I don't know what it'll be called but it'll be some
77:09 kind of
77:12 Mo mve g g g move something some
77:18 combination of the two um what's coming Wireless power for
77:22 PCs I think we're a ways away from that too mind you as PC power goes down I
77:27 can't think of any reason why a next or
77:30 Tech you could do it now or two G from now like MacBook for example yeah could
77:35 be wirelessly powered from a range that would make sense yeah cuz technically
77:38 you could do that now it's just going to be super not great David Rice cheaper
77:42 higher resolution OLED that is a super safe uh uh prediction there USB 3.1
77:47 type-c that's already here sort of yes we do have have one device that supports
77:51 it uh cheaper high-capacity ssds that's all definitely happening netor
77:56 graic that I don't know if it's next but
77:59 well strictly speaking Network Graphics is already a thing NV grid is on a
78:03 network even if it's the internet but I think you mean local network Graphics uh
78:07 better Battery tech for laptops and phones that's always coming next yeah
78:10 it's I don't know I don't know uh 36
78:14 core core i7 processor that won't be for a while I don't think it's coming next I
78:17 don't really think the battery thing is going to change a whole lot until we change Technologies 7-Day phone
78:22 batteries did you see the light phone the yeah this thing's bananas it's like
78:27 the stupidest thing ever but like people will like it uh it's on Kickstarter
78:31 right now we don't generally cover Kickstarter stuff just cuz a lot of it
78:34 ends up never existing um so the Light
78:38 phone by light it met its goal and
78:41 pretty much what it is is a credit card sized phone and you got to take it with
78:46 a big grain of salt whenever any manufacturer says credit card sized cuz
78:49 it could be as thick as you want yeah that's not credit card that's not credit
78:53 card Siz but the battery apparently last for 20 days and straight up all it does
78:58 is make and receive phone calls that's it it is not
79:04 smart all right and it's 100 bucks like
79:07 okay okay I guess I get it so we're bringing back the brick would you need a
79:10 SIM but it's like a sexy brick yeah You' need a SIM that sucks speaker phone here
79:16 we go you could always rip SIM from your dead smartphone yeah the Light phone is
79:22 a prepaid GSM cell phone that works independent of your carrier comes pre-loaded with minutes a SIM card and
79:26 an app to use with your existing phone okay that's cool so there you go so
79:29 they're a carrier now the Light phone by
79:35 light I love companies that don't have a crazy amount of forethought in their
79:39 product names it's great I think it's awesome
79:44 all right so what else we from people oh yeah yeah sure okay so we'll do 10 more
79:48 10 more Twitter blitzes uh less local storage and more theft of data yeah okay
79:54 that's un fortunate map says lower latency
79:57 Wireless to make things like wireless gaming peripherals a real viable option yeah right now the only wireless gaming
80:02 peripherals we have are extraordinarily expensive um and part of the problem
80:06 with that is that you know when you add $3 to the bomb cost of a peripheral
80:12 product with the margin structure of that particular industry you're adding
80:15 anywhere from I don't know $5 to $15 to the actual retail price because
80:20 retailers are expecting deep double digit margins the manufacturers making
80:24 deep double- digit margins and people have different expectations for these
80:27 products if there's something wrong with it they expect you to pop a new one in the mail for them and you expect to get
80:31 it and not bother sending the old one back and that's not the kind of thing
80:34 that you know a motherboard manufacturer is ever going to support because the
80:38 margins on that product don't support it so in order to not fall behind in
80:41 customer service and perceived value you
80:45 can't actually just make your product cheaper and then expect people to just
80:48 accept that they're going to expect all the other stuff and a better product and cheaper so yeah good point lower cost
80:54 and lower latency Wireless yeah it's always batteries it's
80:58 always batteries when we discuss what do people want well I I and I completely
81:01 agree I just don't think it's coming Helix slash I hope you're wrong VR
81:06 system yes curv screen laptop wow I hope you're wrong if you had one that was
81:11 flexible maybe but why but I've used a
81:15 24in curved display and it doesn't make
81:18 sense no so like the curve from that at
81:22 that size doesn't make sense so for a top unless you're like you've got it
81:26 like right to your face I don't think it makes a ton of sense that's quite the prediction Apple
81:31 will have nothing to do with unprecedented Technologies at all um I
81:35 don't well actually that's not really fair I mean Thunderbolt was unprecedented they certainly had a lot
81:39 to do with that just saying I I don't have much to say but hi all right
81:44 another episode of junkyard Wars that's wow now we're never film yeah now we're
81:50 okay that's enough no more Twitter Blitz you just ruined it for everyone Kevin
81:54 Hall wow Kevin Hall wow Kevin Hall gez
81:57 Kevin Hall it's called scrapyard Wars I'm gonna tweet when we do it junkyard
82:01 Wars is some other show in a junkyard it
82:04 probably smells I just typed in tweet. comom
82:08 that's how distraught I am that's pretty distraught right there
82:13 that's that's quite distraught uh Spotify is apparently going to have a
82:17 New York Press event so this is oh oh no not apparently this is apparently a
82:21 thing um so Spotify moves into video and
82:25 podcasts with major media Partnerships so Spotify is not ready to lie down and
82:30 have apple completely eat their lunch on music streaming nor are they wanting to
82:34 limit themselves to music streaming forever so short form videos and
82:38 podcasts sourced from BBC ESPN and Comedy Central ESPN is such a huge one
82:45 sports is something that I mean where did we go for sports Justin.tv that's
82:51 gone twitch no longer cares about that
82:54 where so what you have to just go to the
82:57 individual sports Network's website every time be honest there was a lot of
83:00 people watching the Mayweather fight on Twitch it just wasn't a legal
83:05 thing wow
83:08 anyway um that's something YouTube
83:12 doesn't do particularly well it's something that some of the leagues particularly the NHL doesn't do
83:16 particularly well is things like highlights and Analysis on YouTube
83:21 having having someone like ESPN come online with someone like Spotify having
83:26 other sports networks potentially sign up that could be freaking awesome that's
83:31 the kind of thing where if they start to get some really great content maybe I
83:35 get off Google play music maybe I start paying for Spotify instead get my music
83:38 and that and Comedy Central is another big one too although um Regional
83:42 licensing is going to be a huge one because Comedy Central I doubt very much
83:46 yeah so service will be launched in US UK Germany and Sweden so Comedy Central
83:49 is probably not coming to Canada anytime soon because I think there's some
83:53 complicated stuff between Comedy Central and Comedy Network and blah blah blah
83:57 blah blah Regional man sucks it's
84:00 annoying um it's super hyper duper annoying apparently this is cool though
84:04 spotify's new version will have Tempo detection which will keep Pace with your
84:08 feet when you are working out why would you want that I'd like
84:15 that like something a little bit like
84:18 like when you're walking you listen to a different no no no the song doesn't
84:21 speed up or slow down that would be aw yeah I was like what the crap okay that
84:25 makes sense so for song selection yeah
84:28 so if you're doing like a super hard workout then like cool and if you're not
84:32 then like that's cool too tempo as in I'd like to see it tied to I wish heart
84:37 heart rate I was just going to say I'd like to see it tied to heart rate instead but this is a step in the right
84:41 direction that's that's one annoying thing that watch that I'm not going to talk a ton about right now I'll go bust
84:46 out like a pretty intense workout and then come home and be like you were
84:50 active for 1 minute today and I'm like screw you it's not
84:55 true is it because of the phone not a
84:59 ton of movement oh right because you're
85:02 like lifting if I'm moving from like a squat rack to a bench or whatever like
85:07 right it's really not that far so what you're saying is that fitness trackers
85:11 still have a ways to go for all the different types of Fitness there happens
85:15 to be so me for example I engage I engage in mind Fitness wow that's where
85:20 I sit and think so hard about Fitness that I get ripped
85:25 no no what about that belt that you can wear that
85:29 vibrates it is so funny like the
85:32 celebrities that have sold out so hard well that's exactly it it's the
85:35 celebrity endorsements I saw a commercial for one of those things that had like Denise Richards and someone
85:40 else in it and I was like are you really worth that little if
85:46 it worked everyone would have
85:49 one everybody you know they uh they reached out about doing advertising with
85:53 us on one of them I can't remember which one
85:56 we should do a review I no no it was it was they weren't going to send a review
86:00 unit that was not the get them to send us I'll wear it for like a month okay so
86:04 know I won't cuz I'm going to work out naturally anyway um so so basically I
86:10 had never looked into them like I knew they were on late night TV not
86:14 everything on late night TV is bad the bamx for example is a great handheld
86:18 mixer and it's one of those as seen on TV like stupid commercial with and you
86:23 get the the nut Scrambler with it not
86:26 well George Foreman grills are actually really George Foreman grills also awesome probably anything that Billy May
86:31 ever advertised because it's Billy freaking
86:35 might putty really I don't know okay anyway um I believe Billy so I'd never
86:39 looked into them because I just assumed they were stupid but now we were having a real conversation with money involved
86:44 so I was like okay I should probably find out if they're dumb and every site
86:48 I found was so positive and I was like
86:52 no nothing can be that amazing and it
86:55 was at that time that I realized that
86:58 basically they just Spam websites I was
87:01 not aware of this particular strategy I've never really looked into the ways people get scammed online because it was
87:06 never really a concern for me I navigate directly to a website that I want to go
87:10 to I'm not much of a surfer so I so I
87:13 was like oh so they just create endless
87:16 websites with slightly different SEO
87:20 strategies so that something will surface and they create them
87:24 over and over and over again all the time so that something positive will
87:28 surface before all the reviews about how it's completely stupid and pointless are
87:33 able to be found and I was like okay no
87:37 and go away uh but um but yeah I I don't
87:41 remember where I was going with this anymore ocz has a new NVMe SSD so NVMe
87:46 ssds are coming ho this is posted by
87:49 numlock 21 on the Forum what available formats are there for this the show's
87:53 kind over by the way but we can do this is it what time is it 6010 how did that
87:57 happen 6010 6010 I was going to say 9 but I assumed the minute was going to
88:01 flip over and then there we go now it's
88:06 610 while you were speaking you thought
88:10 the minute would actually flip over midw
88:13 you were going to time it that precisely I that was the plan you're hero I was
88:16 off by like 5 seconds so uh capacities
88:20 anywhere from I think it was 800 gigs to
88:23 6 6.4 terab boom um they're compliant
88:28 with NVMe 1.1 they support Two Hosts accessing
88:33 them simultaneously or apparently that update is coming in Q3 or something
88:37 which is completely bananas like what the heck
88:43 like so you could have a virtual machine
88:47 natively accessing like two virtual machines accessing it natively or
88:51 something is what that sounds like to me I'm sure someone's going to correct me
88:54 but that sounds completely off the hook
88:57 um and performance is in the neighborhood of like 3 GB per second uh
89:02 not not quite so sequential read speeds at 2.9 gigabytes per second and right
89:08 speeds at 1.9 megabytes per
89:13 second sustained using 19 nanometer nand and
89:18 there's both a 6000 series using mlc Flash and a 6300 series using Enterprise
89:23 Grand enlc flash very cool do we know what form
89:27 factors it comes in PCI Express I would assume no uh really doubt
89:33 it yeah but it'll support uh self encryption in uh Q in the Q3 update um
89:41 anend data protection so this is all important Enterprise stuff but yeah okay
89:44 so here's the Dual Port functionality it's going to launch with single port
89:48 functionality with an upgrade in Q3 uh it does this using a newer generation of
89:52 the 16 channel PN C Sierra Princeton controller than what is found on
89:56 competing models and the advantage of having dual Port functionality is allows
90:00 Two Hosts to access the drive both
90:03 concurrently that's ridiculous okay then
90:07 I guess we'll see what that sort of means yeah later on down the road uh
90:11 should we do a couple of our of our quick rapid fires we can we're 12
90:15 minutes over time uh dami killer um
90:18 posted on the Forum that ducky is teasing their first Mouse what we don't
90:24 have a whole ton of detail about this yet dougy never they're always just like
90:27 random photo on Facebook that's their whole thing it's always
90:31 ridiculous ducky secret oh dude this will probably be in Taiwan continual
90:37 Improvement oh yeah they're definitely showing it at
90:40 compex um that's a thing so
90:47 yep looks super interesting could a
90:50 mouse look that interesting no quality and precision is what matters Luke hey
90:54 we put one of the like very few good
90:58 sensors in it and some plastic around it
91:01 that isn't bad and rron switches EA is apparently teasing Need for Speed
91:06 underground three nice so they're going to have to prove that that's a good game
91:10 before I yeah someone told me I think Nick told me about this and I was like
91:14 yep don't care was a huge fan of the previous ones and I have no confidence
91:18 that this will be good but I will pay attention I'm not going to get hyped up
91:22 CU there's so many ways that they it's screwed up uh the Logitech G29 is
91:27 apparently in the final stages of validation that is allegedly what it
91:32 looks like so it's got a whack ton of buttons and seems to be targeted more at
91:37 the PlayStation crowd if we're to go by that apparently PlayStation logo that
91:42 looks like a PlayStation logo to me and the circle square X triangle that could
91:46 be different model thing though could be absolutely could be so and you would
91:50 only need two models and they've done PlayStation exclusive wheels in the past
91:55 and then you could have like an Xbox SL PC one yeah um Razer uh launched the
92:02 Firefly chroma mouse pad so this is
92:05 posted by oh and the last one was uh from xtank Slayer X or just tank Slayer
92:10 I guess and this one's from a Ming original article here's from Tom's
92:14 Hardware um so if the question you were asking yourself was what can we put RGB
92:20 LEDs in next the answer is a mouse pad
92:25 you know I was really amped about the RGB keyboards and I super don't care
92:29 anymore do you care anymore I still have one on my desk and I have it set to I
92:35 have it set to kind of a purple color that's very similar to the UV lights in
92:38 my case and since then I have not touched any kinds of effects or anything
92:43 CU it's kind of distracting it is and I don't care and you know what I'd like my
92:48 PBT key cap so much that I just want that and no glow because I never look at
92:52 my keyboard anyways I still like the backlight I like the backlight sure
92:57 that's fine but I don't know I was super hyped for it too I was like Yay
93:01 innovation in keyboards then I was like I actually don't care I just like my
93:05 nice key caps so there you go now you can plug your mouse pad in via USB as
93:09 well um I'm really glad they didn't put LEDs on the actual surface of the mouse
93:14 pad cuz it probably would have wrecked tracking on every mouse ever but I'm sure razor smart enough to not do
93:18 something that phenomenally stupid so uh there you go you can have the next
93:22 product comes out yeah LED inter
93:26 LEDs the woven fibers of the mouse pad
93:29 have led elements at either end and you can like make a rainbow you can like
93:33 make Yan cat they're in the shap of snakes they Slither across the mouse pad
93:38 in a destructive manner
93:42 um this is just funny because of his name original articles from polygon this
93:47 was posted by Good Bites Nintendo's new VP of sales his name is actually Doug
93:51 Bowser yeah in like Photo that they took
93:55 of him in his new office or whatever saying like thank you for the warm
93:58 welcome there's uh Mario and Luigi tied
94:03 up by a GameCube controller in the background on the Shelf as like a joke
94:10 yeah so that's uh that's that's pretty funny um and I guess that's pretty much
94:14 all there is to say about that thank you guys very much for tuning in the L show
94:21 um oh that's kind of cool wounded turtle can return to the ocean thanks to a 3D
94:25 printed titanium
94:29 beak it's like a future turtle look at
94:32 that man wow that's badass yeah it actually looks like a like a Teenage
94:38 Mutant Ninja Turtles like character or
94:41 something that's cool someone is going to make a video game bad guy or like
94:47 movie character based on this picture mark my words but that's the coolest
94:51 looking thing ever people already have like replacement stuff yeah but it'll be like
94:55 really based on this like it'll be very close it'll be close okay it's a
95:00 prediction that I can't lose on unlike the one about these t-shirts which I can
95:04 lose on did I tell them what exactly the wager was no okay I thought you weren't
95:09 I'll do that on after party wrecked all right so thanks for watching guys bye
95:14 Long show see you next week no I don't think the show was actually long cuz we
95:19 started it wasn't crazy long it's like 5
95:22 minutes long or something sometimes it's 5 minutes long yeah
95:27 sometimes it's not about the length you know what the the girth of
95:31 the show the girth of the show is the girth your
95:35 bandwidth um I don't know cuz what would like P kind be then your uh how fast you
95:41 are repetition no because ping is just
95:45 iteration iteration