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The WAN Show: Digital Theft to Land You in Jail? & Google Buying Twitch? - July 25th, 2014

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0:01 we should just change our starting time to 4:35 never mind that that's a completely

0:06 awkward time to start the show if we do that we'll go live at

0:09 4:40 I guess that's true it's just it's

0:13 something about you we're fashionably late fashionably why is it something

0:17 about me well I mean with you everything seems to be about you you're a very

0:21 self-centered person uh speaking of which I guess

0:25 we're on the lius tech tip show so hosted by lonus Media Group l featuring

0:30 The lineus Tech tips Forum are you implying that I'm projecting no I'm not

0:35 implying anything because I think you're you have a very suspicious disposition

0:39 and you always throw accusations

0:43 around it's all about that all right speaking of projecting Google is

0:51 projected it work kind of worked not really the rumor on the street is that

0:56 Google is has has basically reached a deal to buy twitch

1:00 for a billion dollar that's the video streaming site that we are streaming on

1:04 right now this was rumored a while back yeah exactly this was rumored a while

1:08 back but um you know never actually confirmed and even though a lot of

1:13 places are reporting that it's a done deal uh it still is oh right we're not

1:18 actually doing the topic I'm doing call outs right so that that's a thing also

1:22 Ubisoft plans to send a fan to Mount

1:25 Everest to play Far Cry 4 copy us much yeah seriously right am I

1:32 right yeah we kind of I don't know uh Microsoft is planning on merging all of

1:36 their versions of Windows into one just in case you didn't know that was

1:40 happening we'll talk about that later should call it Uber Edition they should call it barnicle's

1:44 Edition and it should have like tears on the box speaking of which Our Guest today is

1:52 Barn um British MP a British MP wants to

1:55 punish people for stealing in-game items with real world punishments like J

2:00 it's kind of a big deal and the AME punishments weren't working like like

2:05 calling them butth holes in the chat you're a

2:08 jerk go away please stop my mom says to

2:13 ignore comments from

2:19 you there we go

2:41 okay well if someone was didn't have their paws all over my mouse I'd be able

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3:14 rivalry we should make uh speaking of self-centered we should make

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3:23 need like a picture of me being like looking into a book but very angry like

3:30 I'm looking at this with the the most neutral tone possible yeah um our other

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3:57 we'll cover that later on what can I do told you there would be people in the

4:01 chat wondering why I was here because I quit

4:05 really really okay let's be clear so in in the

4:11 in a recent video most of them are joking in the h220x video okay I I uh I

4:16 asked okay a couple things happened that were real and a couple things happened

4:20 that weren't real so the things that were real were that the h220x is pretty

4:23 Kick-Ass it performs really well it's expandable it's quiet Kick-Ass product

4:29 Great Value um another thing that was real I did indeed ask Luke to you know

4:35 shave parts of me that I couldn't reach on my own um but I mean the the thing

4:40 about that is that really what I was talking about was my back I mean the

4:45 coin purse isn't exactly an issue as long as there's some stretchiness to the

4:49 skin you can kind of maneuver it the way that you need to have you seen that

4:54 video where the guys are like and they have to shave it's a YouTube commercial

4:58 thing it's like it shows like all the weird things that guys do to their face

5:02 so they can shave properly and they're all like they're trying to like flatten

5:05 out their face so they can shave properly it's like they should have a non-safe for work commercial version of

5:10 that what if they make more money it's

5:13 you got to be careful saying things like they should

5:16 have they shouldn't have but it would be funny have but it would be funny so I so

5:21 I fired so I fired Luke for refusing to do that that part wasn't real he did not

5:26 get fired it would be fun if you did that though cuz then I could make t tons

5:29 of money in the legal system tons of money you know I don't have enough money

5:34 for it to be tons of money yeah I would

5:37 run out of money and then how would you feel I can take your totally doesn't

5:41 exist at all Lambo yeah exactly which would be great cuz it doesn't exist at

5:45 all you could you could like depending on how long you could hold a chair

5:49 position with your hands in front of you like this you could drive down the street in the

5:54 imaginary like get a shuffle foot thing going speaking of imaginary and uh and

6:00 employees screwing over their employers who were just trying to do something

6:04 cool this um so there's an imaginary

6:08 game called yog Ventures and there's an artist who was originally supposed to

6:13 work on the project that basically took the

6:16 $35,000 that was allocated to presumably

6:20 him not actually sure but but allocated to the artist and then went and took a

6:24 job at Lucas arts or Lucas film I think it was Lucas film and basically booked

6:29 it with 35 ,000 for what was supposed to be about 6 months of work but actually

6:33 ended up being 2 weeks worth of work this caused the yogs cast folks to

6:38 basically lose faith in Winter cool games and ask for 150,000 of the

6:43 kickstarter money to be given to them and Trust to take care of the physical

6:47 prizes as well as to you this was it's

6:50 very unclear this is all very nebulous right now because he said she said

6:54 except she's not talking so um so

6:57 apparently according to Winter cool a 100,000 of that was supposed to be for

7:01 miscellaneous things like appearances at trade shows and some promotional

7:06 activities as well as hiring a lead

7:10 programmer um however right now basically the project is completely dead

7:15 winter cool is insolvent they're bankrupt and yog's cast is not saying

7:22 much publicly at least so y Cass is the female in this situation I guess he said

7:27 she didn't comment sure yes yes I just wanted to clarify so basically what's

7:33 going on now is y cast has said look there's a lot of uh inconsistencies in

7:38 the story that people are being told but we don't really see the point of issuing

7:42 a statement right now it looks like they're going to kind of wait for the dust to settle but the big question

7:47 everyone's asking right now is what happened to that $100,000 that wasn't

7:51 for physical rewards and what are they going to do because up till now yog cast

7:56 has been pointing people towards winter cool to get refunds which obviously is

8:00 not going to happen at this point

8:04 um so let me see if there's anything else that I kind of missed here this

8:08 getting refr from uh Kickstarter things

8:11 just AR isn't really a thing as far as I can tell and as far as I can tell

8:16 kickstarting games is just a big problem because and and this is I mean honestly

8:20 this is the same trap that the yogs cast guys fell into is they they trusted a

8:25 bunch of guys who were experienced filmmaker like anim

8:30 veterans but didn't necessarily have and

8:33 by their own admission didn't necessarily have the business savvy to

8:37 actually create a game studio and so the

8:40 problem here is that when you put your trust in animators and filmmakers who

8:45 are great at telling stories and making things look great to make something that

8:50 they actually don't have any experience doing you end up with a very good trailer for something that might not be

8:55 anything like that and might not end up existing at all so one thing that yog

8:58 cast is had has done is they've given everyone a copy of nerd King Kingston's

9:03 tug King King Kingston's tug open world

9:07 game um but some of the backer options things like named in game items are

9:13 they've already said are not or may not be available in that game and uh so some

9:18 people are apparently pissed um they haven't communicated much publicly like

9:21 I said although reading through comments has actually been more enlightening than

9:26 reading the articles about what's going on because I've seen people saying well

9:30 hey I heard from them and they're doing this or they're doing that or because

9:34 apparently alcast is commenting behind the scenes a lot they're talking to

9:38 backers directly probably through the kickstarter platform or other things

9:41 instead of making public statements which is I get that yeah you don't owe

9:45 an explanation to the people who didn't give you their money at this point yeah

9:49 but then if you are actively communicating with the kickstarter people that's cool so I guess from them

9:53 it's just a matter of PR damage control like how do you how do you keep

9:57 yourselves from looking any more bad then you already look do you make a

10:02 public apology when in reality probably

10:05 a small fraction like very small fraction of the people that they would

10:09 reach with a with a video blast or like a you know an apology in every video for

10:13 a week have actually back have actually even heard of this yeah so why bring it

10:18 up if it's something where they're going to try and figure out a way to take care of these people I guess we just need to

10:22 see if they end up resolving it to people's

10:25 satisfaction um I mean I I I

10:30 I see so many ways that this went self I mean winter cool was expecting yog cast

10:35 to pimp the game a lot yeah and so that they'd get that pre-order Revenue which

10:40 would help them pay salaries which would help them actually develop the game that

10:44 they promised to develop um yogs cast didn't want to I mean obviously if we

10:48 were if we were funding development of a lonus tech tips game where

10:52 like I I don't know like uh it's like a

10:55 sidescroller combat game where I like Shout lus Media Group presents a lonus

11:01 tech tips production lonus shoots things

11:04 you're fired so if that was the objective and

11:09 the game was coming along at a pace I wasn't comfortable with and a quality

11:13 level that I wasn't comfortable with am I going to throw my name behind it more

11:17 and more and more like on the other hand

11:21 you know if they if they saw this going south was their time to to deal with it

11:26 more properly Salvage it maybe at the time that they renegotiated the contract

11:30 shortly after the kickstarter when that artist left and was there time to kind

11:34 of terminate it then I I don't know it's very hard to say whose fault this is

11:39 without actually having been on the inside of one side or the other or in

11:42 reality probably both a really know what

11:45 happened there pretty interesting there's uh I talk about a few

11:48 kickstarters that I've done for the last while but one of them I I'm not going to

11:53 be able to remember the name of it but it's I tried to buy it as a present for

11:58 my dad I bought it in January of

12:03 2012 and the plan was I bought it on Kickstarter January 2012 that was well

12:08 within the estimated shipping date and I was hoping that it would show up for

12:11 Christmas of 2013 so like 20 or Christmas of 2012 I

12:15 guess technically um it didn't it still

12:19 didn't show up yet they still haven't

12:22 even locked down a manufacturer yet and they still don't have their final

12:25 prototype done yet so I I don't know I used to be like

12:30 way behind kickstarters and I just mostly ignore that whole website

12:34 now yeah well there was that wonderful potato salad I got some never mind that

12:40 it was in the mail stuck in customs for two weeks it was delicious God kidding I

12:45 did not buy potato salad but that is very likely what would happen it would

12:48 go bad before it got to you but it's I see it for things like that balloon

12:52 thing that we saw recently where the guy has already completely designed it and

12:57 it's done yeah it's it's basically it's just a pack of

13:02 pre-attached balloons on three plastic nozzles and the idea is you can fill 100

13:07 water balloons in under a minute which is Beast nozzle fill them up and then

13:11 you give it a shake and they all pre-tie so you can fill up a big thing of them

13:15 it costs like however much for a pack and I've seen a lot of people going it's

13:21 like really stupid that it's one time use blah blah blah how is that more

13:24 efficient it's more efficient because and people have been like you should be

13:28 able to put the balloons on back on the thing I'm like that's not any faster

13:32 than tying them by hand the idea here is that for a couple bucks let's say you're

13:37 a scout troop or something okay so for like a hundred bucks when you organize

13:41 an event you can have you know however

13:44 many hundreds of water balloons ready to go in like a few minutes instead of

13:49 wasting a whole day instead of wasting an entire day having volunteers sit and

13:53 tie water balloons when you factor in how much people's time is worth

13:59 it's it's a pretty good deal I think it's and even if you're just a home

14:02 resident if it's really nice outside you want to go play with water balloons instead of filling up water balloons for

14:06 half an hour to an hour you can just be like tie tie this thing on three or four

14:10 times and then you're good to go like guess not that bad and it's already fitted to screw onto your hose so it's

14:16 super easy this is awesome this is a Kickstarter that I backed just so that

14:20 when it doesn't arrive or when it's a gigantic piece of crap um I can make a

14:25 video about how stupid back is it not shipping until like 2016 or something

14:29 end of the year next year or something like that okay I don't think I have

14:33 sound I can't hear it anyway hold on and somewhere in between is this guy

14:38 introducing Jibo the world's first family robot say hi Jibo hi

14:45 Jibo Jibo helps everyone out so that wasn't hardcoded he's the world's best

14:50 cameraman by intelligently tracking the action around him he can independently

14:54 take video and photos so that you can put down your camera and be a part of to

15:00 see take the

15:03 picture totally a focus anyway the point is

15:09 um if that manages to arrive in 2015 and

15:14 if it has anywhere near the level of of

15:17 interaction ability it's up on the table in that shot isn't it yeah so you have

15:21 to like carry it yeah you have to like move it around and stuff like it's just it's the kind of thing where it's like

15:26 um it's like someone was watching the jet Sims and they're just

15:30 like wow let's do that let's like let's

15:33 Indiegogo let's make the little like cleaner robot except like stationary and

15:37 sits on the table like twitch chat is like NSA

15:41 Skynet exactly right all right I just

15:45 got an email from the owner of swifttech I

15:51 didn't well whatever I'm cooler than you

15:54 uh so I just got an email but you're going to like this actually I got two emails today that you're going to be

15:58 pretty stoked yes it's about that so we

16:01 have an exciting new project to announce we are going to be liquid cooling an

16:06 entire room of computers on a single Loop so we're going to give you guys way

16:11 more details in the coming weeks um but

16:14 basically it's all coming together I've already got our sponsor confirmed for

16:18 cases power supplies and uh because we

16:21 like we want all the hardware to be somewhat similar so we're not just

16:25 frankensteining every single one of them as a oneoff so we're consolidating on a

16:29 single case we're going to be using a Cooler Master N600 we're all going to be

16:32 using their v750 modular power supplies they're actually a really good power

16:36 supply hard ocp just did a review on the uh on the V series and validated what I

16:41 was pretty sure we already knew about them but anyway they had a review

16:44 recently anyway um so we're getting those um water cooling is now locked

16:49 down so every machine will have an apple gxl as well as swiftex full cover with

16:55 like the lighting back plated uh full cover block for an NVIDIA graphics card

17:00 uh we are going to have radiators mounted to the systems on quick

17:03 disconnects so that in the event that a system does have to be moved we can

17:08 disconnect it from the room wide Loop connect it to its own red and move it

17:11 without interrupting the rest of the machines um we are going to have the

17:15 radiators mounted outside the building

17:18 so the idea here is that because it's been so hot in the office we will be

17:23 able to take the heat out of the room

17:26 with our liquid cooling because contrary to what a lot of people think water

17:30 cooling doesn't make your room run cooler okay just dumps more heat in the

17:34 room yeah it will dumps the same amount of heat in the room basically exactly

17:38 the same Bas I I'll go with basically the same basically it's a very very very

17:44 small rounding error so the point but I

17:47 I just can't say exactly the point is that removing it from the room is the

17:52 only way to make your room actually cooler and when you have a bunch of

17:55 people editing videos in a room then that's like this is soltion for not

18:00 buying um aing yeah okay so anyway

18:04 they're going to go to a series of Radiators mounted outside the house and

18:08 a reservoir that's going to sit in a bathtub that's like a 5 gallon Reservoir

18:12 we're going to have an industrial grade pump and then every system will actually

18:16 have its own pump as well to help deal with the pressure drop as the water goes

18:19 through all the components so we're not going to have any undue strain on any

18:23 one part of the entire setup so every yeah every computer will have six5 fivs

18:29 um so so funny story uh yeah yeah 65 655

18:33 pumps so funny story is I reached out to

18:37 NVIDIA because we were going to need cards that were compatible with the blocks and I asked them if it was okay

18:43 for us to get 780s because we do use Cuda for a lot of our editing needs uh

18:48 we do have a couple of 780s around here but the problem is that they're non-

18:51 reference and so the one that we have that's referen is the one that we use

18:55 for our reference benchmarking and then the non-reference ones we have are not

18:58 compatible with water cooling and if we were to take all the heat from the CPUs

19:02 out of the room that would help a little bit but not enough to be worth a project

19:06 like this you want to get that GPU heat out of the room I think just buying an

19:10 air conditioning unit would be I think you're crazy anyway the point is that um

19:15 you know I got an email back from them they kind of went uh I'm not sure about

19:20 this project um I think that Titan blacks would be more appropriate for

19:24 something like workstation use in this manner so uh so apparently everyone's

19:29 workstation getting a Titan black do I get one too uh no why cuz you're not in

19:33 that room whatever you can request a transfer I'll have the CEO look at it

19:38 personally my computer just straight up blue screen when I was working on the other day I was like damn my ghetto

19:44 system um so so that's happening that's

19:47 cool so we're moving all of our editors to six core LGA 2011 um not everyone has

19:54 an extreme Edition I don't think and then two Titan blacks

19:59 all theud tan will finally have a computer that can like actually use

20:03 other people's files properly and I know I know we have one of our editors on an

20:08 AMD card and there's nothing inherently

20:12 bad about that it's just that the other guys are using plugins and tools that

20:16 are Cuda tools and so when he goes to work on their stuff on his computer it's

20:21 just like or the other way around if the NVIDIA card has to open something that

20:24 the MD card was working on it's every time it's they they don't really like

20:29 using the same file sets so if anyone wants to ever work with something that

20:32 he was working with or the other way around it's it's yeah it's not good for

20:36 the workflow it's good to consolidate on one platform when you're trying to when

20:41 you're trying to share work between people um I'm just trying to think if

20:44 there's anything else that I am forgetting some people have been like

20:48 Luke stop him I've told him many many many many many we we we know this is

20:53 crazy oh yeah 100% y we're 100% certain

20:56 that this is a crazy idea but it's gonna be freaking awesome so it's gonna be fun

21:01 like yeah yeah it's gonna be fun we're gonna worst case scenario the whole room

21:05 Loop is a complete disaster the pipes blow off and the water's all over the

21:10 place and we kind of go oh crap and then we my dad in and hard pipe the whole

21:14 thing and then we hey I've already thought about this

21:19 we should do that we should just do that anyway probably we could get a fatter

21:24 line too yeah yeah how much would he

21:27 charge for that I could I don't know yeah I know I'll ask him he's not back

21:31 yet I was already going to talk to him

21:37 interesting cuz I think that'll solve like quite a few people are like Luke

21:41 stop him but Luke's just trying to figure out how to take it to a whole new level okay I I've accepted that it's

21:46 happening now it's just how can we make it even more ridiculous and cool yeah

21:51 cuz I was just going to like I was just going to come up with some kind of like

21:54 a wall mounting bracket thing or something to run the tubing around but

21:57 we could just put like roof hooks but that would be better anyway worst case scenario we disconnect the whole room

22:02 thing we give up and we go to each system being individually liquid cooled

22:05 which isn't that crazy a D5 liquid cooled system with swift tech gear is

22:10 not a problem it's fine it'll be fine

22:14 not a problem we'll just move the Reds inside the case we should totally

22:17 overclock the workstations you know we

22:20 have to do it once we don't have to worry about the heat dump into the room

22:23 and we don't have to worry about throttling because the problem is that two of their systems are thermal

22:28 throttling when that would be an interesting case for binning yeah

22:33 because we could see we could try to limit every system and then see which ones come out like which I think we

22:38 don't have enough of the same processor not really yeah cuz we have like I think

22:42 we have like 139 60x 149 something yeah

22:46 so they'll be kind of and then we have a k I think those are those are the six

22:49 cores we have so I I don't know right

22:52 all right so yeah we are we are we are

22:56 this is going could be copper even yeah

23:01 and that would just be so nice yeah I don't know it' be pretty cool and he he

23:05 clear coats all of his pipes too right so it would look awesome and like it

23:09 wouldn't like we'd have to figure out how we want the the fittings to work to

23:13 come out to the systems because I'd want to be able to move desks around if we really need to you know like if we had

23:18 like a like a fitting system you could taline every once in a while and then

23:22 have it go to a flexible pipe okay we'll figure it out we'll figure it out so uh

23:27 so yeah we'll be be we'll be overclocking the workstations maybe just a little bit not a ton you don't want to

23:32 overclock a workstation to the max but uh anyway so the confirmations here the

23:38 fact that we've got case's power supplies uh knock to us in already so oh

23:43 right the outside fans will be their uh their water resistant fans which totally

23:48 makes sense which totally makes sense we actually came up with it's funny because

23:52 I teased them about it in the video I was like why does anyone need a waterproof fan that's stupid oh we do oh

23:57 wait because we're doing something cuz we're going to hang quadruple RADS off

24:01 the fascia boards of the building and then have fans behind them we're going

24:05 to have those running off swifttech pwm Splitters so that we can actually

24:09 control them if we really need to and then we're going to have um all those I

24:13 figure we'll probably run those RADS All In Parallel because otherwise you're

24:17 going to get a lot of pressure drop from five quadruple RADS in a row so yeah our

24:23 neighbors just going to be like what our neighbors like this super nice

24:29 lady who's like super nice but also pays a lot of attention to our house she's a

24:33 good neighbor um which means she'll notice that there's like stuff hanging

24:38 off our house so epic so she'll probably ask

24:44 us yeah yeah super super nice lady those

24:49 weird loud things yeah what the heck what are those should I ask for 2,000

24:53 RPM or 3,000 RPM I mean when we're talking about that much surface area

24:57 2,000 RPM is probably fine right on the

25:00 other hand 3,000 RPM is like a th000 more RPMs yeah and we have those

25:03 controllable Splitters that's true so we could just pull it down we could we

25:07 could just get a pwm fan controller and hook that up there IGN

25:12 has a delayed video launch sorry it's actually not too bad because it autop

25:16 plays but it autop plays after a while and it tells you that it's going to do that so I don't hate this as much as

25:20 tweak down okay so this is like the biggest copycat ever because um it

25:27 wasn't that long ago that lus Media Group and Tech Syndicate and Austin

25:31 Evans and new ATV they uh went to the top of mountain to play a video game so

25:36 literally can't even uh sorry what I literally can't even that's a that's a

25:41 thing I literally can't even so anyway

25:44 the point is Ubisoft announces a Far Cry 4 competition quest for Everest oh my

25:50 God I keep signing me up what are you doing which basically is going to offer

25:53 one lucky fan the opportunity to play

25:57 Far Cry in sorry what we should get we should try

26:02 and push to get JN in to get John in that was the guy that yeah I know who

26:05 John is yeah I don't know if we'd be able to create a video entry that would

26:09 be good enough to win it I mean the grand prize is I've only found I've only

26:13 found one person who has a submission so far and they're not going to make it

26:16 really yeah okay well it's a 14 night sponsor specified accommodation thing

26:21 you get a guided track to the Mount Everest Base Camp to be clear you will

26:26 not be going to the summit I've seen a lot of a few different reporting sites

26:30 and a lot of different people talking about oh my God going to the summit is

26:34 impossible and no it's to the base camp that's not like it's still going to be

26:37 crazy ridiculously ridiculous but it's

26:41 not to the summit so this is basically

26:44 the success rate um so how many Summits

26:47 and what the success rate was over the last however many years this is from

26:50 National Geographic yeah National Geographic so you can see that um if

26:55 Ubisoft was trying to get a gamer to the top and nothing nothing against Gamers I

27:00 love Gamers gamers are good people but climbing Mount Everest is not

27:06 something where being a good person is enough it's not about that it's about

27:11 being in a you have such a good heart that you just like float to the top yeah

27:14 it's about being in amazing physical condition like this isn't the Grinch man

27:19 this isn't the little dog carries the sled to the top of the mountain like no

27:23 big deal this is like serious stuff and you got to train for it you got to act

27:28 to the to the altitude you have to you have to just have a physical disposition

27:34 that is capable of handling it like you might just be unlucky and can't do it

27:40 and and that's fine you're not a bad person you're just not able to Summit

27:44 Mount Everest so it's that's fine which

27:48 I think some people who I've who I've seen who have commented on oh it's just

27:52 to base camp that's like stupid I think probably don't realize that base camp is

27:56 still pretty intense their base camp is incredibly high and it's like not that

28:00 easy to get to and their base camp is more just like a a grouping of tents I

28:06 believe let me just find the elevation of the uh of the base camp it's still

28:10 really really high I think I think their base camp was considerably taller than

28:14 the mountain that we climbed uh yes yeah yeah so base camp is about

28:19 175,000 ft uh and then there's a North

28:22 base camp in Tibet at just shy of 17,000

28:26 ft but you'll be I'm pretty sure you'll this thousands of feet higher than we

28:30 were when we did our our Mount Elbert Summit thing with the land party like

28:35 it's nuts yeah so uh basically the the

28:40 the articles about this uh are like yeah they uh they asked us to pass along that

28:45 there is an inherent risk of death and significant injury to persons in

28:49 property associated with the Quest for Everest experience and by participating

28:53 winner understands and assumes this risk and there's like tons of physical trials

28:57 that you have to undergo before they'll even accept you and if you don't pass the physical trials and they picked you

29:01 they'll just pick someone else like they they're dropping all of your Awards and

29:05 all of your prizes and just picking someone else because they're not going to deal with like having someone that

29:09 isn't ready to go up this is something I actually wasn't even aware of this is

29:13 crazy overcrowding yeah the overcrowding like apparently climbing Everest is

29:18 like like it's become kind of nuts that's that's the reason why I wanted to

29:22 show that original graphic of success rate because um gear ability of sherpa's

29:29 knowledge on the internet all this kind of stuff has massively increased your

29:32 possibility of making it up especially stuff like gear and technology and

29:36 pre-run lines and knowledge in general like that the South path is a lot better

29:40 to take than the North path and a few other things like that but there's been

29:43 massive overcrowding um people have brought up that of course there's better

29:48 times to climb than others so these photos are probably taken during really

29:51 good times to climb but it doesn't get rid of the fact that as of right now a

29:57 lot of people are making it to the top and these groups are all going as once

30:01 so you're going to be walking in this like conga line almost the whole way up

30:05 walking and climbing there's shots I don't know if they're necessarily in here even when there's like 10 to 20

30:09 people on the same rope yeah going up

30:13 the side and then there's a serious garbage issue where I I think right now

30:18 there's uh something in effect where you have to come down with a minimum amount

30:22 of garbage or else you get fined or something right and a lot of people are

30:25 just paying the fine and there's just tons of garbage it's

30:32 not good really not good but yeah I I wanted to point that out because it's

30:36 almost unfortunate timing that they're bringing more attention to ever Everest

30:40 right now because they're going through all these problems of overcrowding and

30:44 garbage issues and stuff like that there's even groups coming together where they climb part way up and just

30:48 grab all the garbage that they possibly can and then come back down right

30:51 because they're trying to clean up the mountain because it's so bad it's like wow okay people just Ru

30:58 everything don't they um all right speaking of ruining everything it's time

31:02 to bring Barnacles onto the show so um do you want to get him sort of arranged

31:07 over there while I cover our rumor

31:12 topic this was originally posted by Tech Che and speaking of words whose Spelling

31:18 have nothing to do with how to pronounce them check like really CZ what's what's

31:23 CZ um apparently I made a mistake in

31:27 last night s the night before his Techquickie video where I pronounced

31:31 Brisbane Brisbane and for that I am very

31:34 sorry is it not even spelled that way though no b r i s b a n e or whatever

31:39 okay yeah it's spelled that way but that's not how you say it and within

31:45 moments of the video being up there were comments about Herer La lus doesn't know

31:50 how to pronounce Brisbane and my wife was like what really even I knew that

31:56 you know how good I am at geography I'm like yeah okay yeah I made a mistake

32:00 it's very funny um so yes my bad you

32:04 guys I'm very sorry to everyone who lives in you know India or wherever

32:09 Brisbane is um just kidding just kidding

32:12 I know it's not in India um so I'm very sorry to all of you down under and I

32:18 apologize and can I can I help you with something I didn't have headphones all

32:22 right I wanted to do a quick rumor topic before we bring on our large guest um

32:27 here we go so this was originally posted by Tech check and it is rumored that the

32:31 GT I'm getting a look from him right now it was rumored that the GTX 870 and 880

32:36 are coming in October it is rumored to

32:40 be a GM 204 chip still a 28 nanometer

32:43 chip are you looking for a splitter can I help you with finding a splitter

32:47 where's the splitter it's supposed to live right here you are splitting my

32:51 patience um I have no idea there should

32:54 be one in in that bin oh okay that's good touch it with your feet some more

32:59 you know I don't have to plug my things into that you don't touch it when you

33:03 plug it in well I could or I could taste it no I won't do that okay anyway the

33:09 point is just did my phone soap thing don't like that the size of the chip is

33:12 estimated to be between GK 104 and GK

33:15 110 which makes sense I mean GK 104 was

33:19 never really intended this is again all

33:22 conspiracy theory Theory NVIDIA has never confirmed this but it was never

33:26 seemed to be really intended be a truly high-end chip but GK 110 was extremely

33:31 large and very expensive so it's rumored to perform better than a than an uh 780

33:36 Ti uh the memory interface is rumored to

33:39 be 256 bits and it is rumored to consume

33:43 less power than 780 Ti um and the memory

33:46 capacity is rumored to be 8 GB so that's

33:50 quite the uh quite the set of rumors there about gigabytes and uh bits anyway

33:58 I don't have anything to say about that I haven't heard anything from NVIDIA at

34:02 this time so that's why I'm going ahead and commenting on rumors speaking of

34:07 rumors there's one rumor that I wasn't able to comment on not that long ago but

34:11 of course now NVIDIA has uh unveiled can't say anything about it

34:16 because the review embargo has not passed yet not even going to say when

34:21 that is but I will say I do have a Shield tablet and I don't even think I

34:25 can say like it's great or anything I think think all I can say is were you

34:28 allowed to show it on camera well they have pictures of it I didn't show

34:32 anything that no one's ever seen before so yeah I can't imagine we'll get in too

34:36 much trouble I mean what are they going to do tell us we can't have our Titan blacks they could do

34:41 that um that never happened continue on with the show

34:46 Internet please do not give us away

34:49 please do not give us away oh and without

34:55 further whatever this guy

34:59 hi what's up guys hey welcome to the

35:02 show Barnacles I'm back did you hear the one about the guy who lost his job oh

35:08 man guys I about I about pissed myself when you said Barnacle Edition with

35:12 tears on the box I lost it oh my God how are you

35:18 doing man no I'm hanging in there you know like life's going to change a whole

35:22 lot but uh Whoa man I'm moving around okay no uh I'm doing all right actually

35:26 I wasn't doing so good a couple days ago but I'm doing all right here I'm just

35:30 going to I want to position you correctly so you're kind of a reasonable

35:34 size so uh well okay don't take that the

35:38 wrong way um I lose my job every like three days it's okay I've been on the

35:42 internet for a while these fat joke things I come to expect them I get worried when they go away actually no

35:46 that wasn't even where I was going with that one it slipped out you know I just

35:50 I you skinny people are all alike every one of you hey all right so tell me this

35:57 what what's the plan well the plan is at

36:00 this point I've got time I've got enough uh resources saved up to get me through

36:04 uh you know I can for about six months the year I'm thinking so I'm gonna I'm

36:08 gonna go a and try to be my own boss I'm G to try to push the YouTube thing I'm going to try to work on my gaming

36:12 company opulent Studios uh founded that with a bunch of friends want to get that

36:16 back off the ground and uh see where it takes me if it if the internet rejects

36:20 me and doesn't lovers me well then I'll probably have to go back to the corporate Empire

36:25 so that's the plan you figure you've got a year worth of Nest Egg to develop hey

36:31 that's that's not bad that's very doable

36:35 I mean do you have enough to get some to get some help or would you be trying to

36:38 onean Army at Al Marcus brownley or you know a lot of those guys who have who

36:42 have shown that you can have great success on YouTube even without an

36:45 entire crew well in in the beginning and I'm going to go It Alone on the YouTube

36:50 side but on the development side I've actually got a crew I've got a graphics artist another developer and a PM um

36:55 that are all involved on the development side so I'm kind of going be working two

36:58 different projects and two different corporations the Barnacles nerdgasm thing will be just under me and the

37:02 opulent Studios will be under me and three other people so uh but as far as

37:06 bringing somebody in on YouTube that's not something that I'm like against I

37:10 mean it's some it's something that at some point I'm going to have to do if it

37:13 gets to the point where I need to create more than say like one video a day five days a week I mean at some point I've

37:18 got to be able to go do something else other than make videos yeah you tell yourself that

37:23 now I'm already feeling the pressure too let me tell you not having a job to go

37:27 to it's hard to I used to be able to come home and justify and be like ah you

37:30 know I'm kind of tired T I'm just going to Tweet out I'm not going to make a video it's fine now I'm like wow I sat

37:35 at home for eight hours and I didn't make a video I better make a

37:40 video and you know the funny thing is you go and you hire people to supposedly

37:45 you know help you make more videos or reduce your workload and you just end up

37:49 pouring it right back into production values or other projects or whatever

37:53 else the case may be like every time I find a way to alleviate some of the

37:56 pressure like this week I had Nick who's actually

38:00 my sales guy script an episode a fast as possible he did a great job the ambient

38:04 occlusion video is coming out this weekend or Monday and uh so I had I had

38:08 him do that and then I'm spending all of my time scripting a build guide so it's

38:13 like I'll just find some other massive project so the build guide was going to

38:16 be the build guide and then I'm like oh yeah I've got a little bit more time to

38:20 work on this I'm going to go get some plasty dip and I'm going to like figure

38:24 out ways to to really make this one pop

38:27 we're going to take this build guide to the next level yeah no I I definitely get that

38:33 I'm going to have the I'm going to have the same problem because I'm used to taking all of the revenue the channels

38:36 generated thus far and just dumping it back into camera equipment lighting

38:40 equipment stuff for the cave upgrades for the computers and now I got to

38:43 figure out how to like somehow leverage that to support my family at the same

38:47 time is still maintaining that so it's it's going to be tricky that's why I'm

38:51 glad I have time to make it happen it's not going to happen overnight I'm probably going to drift into the red

38:55 before I drift into the black but you know I won't know unless I try and it'll

38:58 bug the hell out of me if I don't you know what I'll say that I hope is really

39:02 encouraging um like there have been Exceptions there have been the people um

39:07 who watched lonus Tech tips before we you know sold out um which is always

39:13 funny to me because I I these days I

39:16 have far less reason to care if someone buys the product that I review than back

39:21 when I worked at a company whose existence relied on people buying the

39:25 products I was making videos about yeah so if you trusted me then you should

39:29 probably trust me now because it's it's not really any different it's certainly

39:33 not any worse but there were the people who who watched back then and and

39:37 haven't liked it since we started having to actually support ourselves and make a

39:41 living off of this content but by and

39:44 large the the vast vast majority of our

39:48 viewers of our audience never skipped a beat and have continue to support us no

39:52 matter what it is we're doing whether it's t-shirts or whatever else it is so

39:56 I would I would venture sure I would Hazard a guess that if you asked your

40:00 community to step up and help support you now that you don't have a day job

40:04 they will probably do it I I'll agree with that my community has been more

40:07 supportive than I ever thought they would be and to be honest when the the morning that I was laid off came as

40:12 complete surprise to me uh you know I was thinking about it and I was like uh

40:16 I'm I need to go find another job I absolutely have to go find another job that whole day that's all I could think

40:20 of and I and it wasn't until I saw the positive feedback that I got on Twitter

40:25 on Facebook even on the comments on the video that I posted I was surprised I

40:28 mean it's got a it got like a 100 dislikes to 12 or 14,000 likes and I've

40:32 never had that kind of ratio before so the community really knows how to come

40:36 together and you know as long as you're straight with them and you let them know

40:39 what's going on it seems like they're they're cool with it you're always going to have the trolls no matter what you're

40:43 always going to have the trolls that come out and say oh my God you're a sellout you're doing this oh you've

40:47 changed oh I don't like what you're doing now that's but that's always been

40:51 there before I made it a career you know so I I still expect that to be there but

40:56 by and large I think the community is going to back me up if they enjoy what I do I'm going to keep doing it and if

41:00 they if they decide they don't enjoy it anymore and the community starts to go

41:03 away well then that's my sign I probably shouldn't be in this business and I

41:06 should go actually get a job you know yep 100% agree and I mean I I've I've

41:10 messaged you privately saying I think you're doing a great job in terms of uh

41:14 developing your style developing your delivery um I think I gave you some

41:18 feedback that wasn't quite as positive but it was it changed my direction a

41:24 little bit though if you notice my my videos aren't 30 minutes long any

41:28 anymore and you know what's funny about it is no matter what and and you can

41:33 listen to me or you can listen to someone else or whatever else everyone's

41:36 going to have a different idea for how you can run it so if there's any advice that I can give you right now it's tune

41:41 out the advice unless you really truly believe in your heart of hearts that

41:45 it's exactly what you need to be doing because otherwise you'll go in a thousand different directions and you'll

41:49 be spread so th his own channel too well the nice thing about me is I've got the

41:53 ADHD thing going on for me so it's like all this advice pours in and just little

41:57 pieces stick here and there and here and there and I'm only capable of doing what

42:00 I'm capable of doing so that it's ultimately going to solve itself

42:03 honestly my first thought when I heard was his YouTube channel is actually

42:06 pretty big he can actually probably do this yep I was actually pretty excited

42:10 at the same time so when we went Indie we were three people I had to support

42:15 three people and we had around 250,000 subscribers and we were doing around 160

42:20 to 180,000 views a day so you have to support one person on a subscriber

42:25 number that's I know whatever 2/3 Math's

42:29 not my strong point and view numbers that are in the sort of third is and

42:34 maybe a little bit less range you can do it for sure yeah yeah and I'm trying to

42:38 go in a unique Direction with my channel like you guys know it's been all over the map I mean you can find videos on

42:42 how to put brakes on your car on my channel I mean they're there if you look

42:45 for them but realistically I'm going to stick with the 3D printing stuff I'm

42:48 going to get heavily into development though and that's a territory I haven't

42:51 done before because I want to keep my development skills sharp I've been programming for 15 years and now I don't

42:55 have a do job to go and program every day so I'm going to be working on games

42:59 with opulent Studios but I'm also planning on doing a series of videos where I actually show people how to

43:03 program I'm going to start with a simple highle language like C and show them how

43:06 to write some cool little tools and utilities and I think that that'll be kind of fun because I'm not going to go

43:10 the conventional route of oh here's a tutorial watch me type in some stuff I'm

43:14 actually going to make it kind of funny and really screw around a whole bunch and try to try to Captivate people and

43:18 keep their attention and the other thing is I the reason a lot of people think

43:21 that i h i over ham it up in my videos I get this they're like man you're trying

43:25 to be funny thing you got to realize am the slowest editor on earth and the only

43:29 way I can make it through three hours of editing is if I'm laughing at myself so

43:34 I I intentionally ham it up so that when I'm editing the video I'm sitting here

43:38 at certain parts pissing myself going I really shouldn't leave that in there but I'm going to because it made me laugh or

43:42 I'll cut it out entirely even though it made me laugh but it keeps me entertained and that's what gets me

43:46 through it when I did the boring like unboxings just open it like hey guys

43:49 here's what this is it's kind of cool and everything I had a really hard time editing that stuff it wasn't until I

43:53 started just kind of playing around a little bit that I I had fun with it and then then then you kind of see that come

43:57 out in the video you're like oh he actually had fun making this if you make

44:01 fun entertaining programming videos that

44:05 would actually be pretty cool I know have you ever seen a fun programming

44:08 video the best one I could find was ah

44:12 the New Boston or something and he like

44:16 every once in a blue moon there's like a slightly edgy comment that might make

44:20 you chuckle that's like the the the the

44:23 most entertaining programming videos I've pretty much ever found so if find

44:27 something that actually makes me laugh and teaches me how to program that would be really cool okay so so Envision this

44:32 what if I did a video where was like Bob Ross you know with like the bush and

44:36 here's the little tree I'm gonna be like here's the little variable and then I just keep going back to it I'm like

44:39 here's little variable again we're going to put a little symbol next to him see makes them look cool syntax and you're

44:44 like that's a happy accident we're learning it's a happy accident oh my God

44:49 yeah no but I'm going to try I'm going to try things out I'm going to take risks like I said I had time if I didn't

44:53 have time and just to clarify a lot of people think I'm taking a huge risk here

44:57 for my family cuz my son needs a lot of therapy realize I am not going to let my

45:01 resources get exhausted I will go back to an IT job long before I'm in trouble

45:06 I'm not going to push this to the last minute and go oh crap I screwed up let's go live under a bridge ain't gonna

45:10 happen yeah all right so speaking of

45:14 screwing up and living under a bridge um if you steal ingame items one British MP

45:21 this was posted by joners on the Forum one British MP thinks that you should go

45:27 to jail or P finded or community service

45:31 or whatever realworld consequences exist

45:35 for real world crimes he wants to see that happen to people who uh who steal

45:41 things digitally and we're not talking steel digitally like what we're always

45:45 hearing about stealing movies Stealing

45:49 music stealing Windows which you don't

45:52 have to care about anymore um

45:57 no actually I got to care about it more than ever we're talking stealing

46:01 swords like like ingame items and stuff

46:04 like that and not like oh he ninja looted it he picked it up off the ground

46:08 before I could or he like need roll date when he didn't actually need it or he

46:12 you got to realize swords and games to some of these guys are like real items

46:16 yeah yes they are like I I know I know I have a friend who plays World of

46:20 Warcraft and seriously the the way I see him scream in pain when something bad

46:24 happens in that game it's like you might as well be like stealing his real stuff

46:27 and like breaking into his house and beating him with it you know and the thing about it is and and this is this

46:31 is something like for me personally in-game items are not something I've

46:35 spent a ton of money on over the years this is a fairly interesting thing I'm going to interject before you keep going

46:39 you can buy a kamb bit in real life for

46:42 cheaper than you can buy a kamb bit in Counterstrike wow that's screwed up okay

46:50 so and selling them originally jer's

46:53 post on the Forum was kind of mocking this as if you know ha haa it's not real

46:57 stuff and as someone who who doesn't

47:01 spend a lot of money on in-game or digital items I kind of my initial

47:06 kneejerk reaction was what really go to

47:09 jail for you know like like get charged with Grand Theft for stealing $5,000

47:14 worth of you know boots in Diablo or

47:18 like what or whatever the case may be and then I kind of stopped and thought

47:21 about it for a second because is is is a digital currency and and we could just

47:25 let's just call in items let's call Team Fortress 2 Hats a digital currency are

47:30 they not anything that can be converted to and from another currency and can be

47:33 traded for goods and services between people is kind of a currency so is

47:39 stealing digital currency that someone worked for and if that work was farming

47:44 gold or if that work was you know sitting at their desk trading stocks is

47:49 that any different is that currency any different from from money and I kind of

47:53 started thinking about it going well [ __ ] $5,000 of in-game boots is still

47:59 $5,000 and that still got stolen I think this is a huge step in the right

48:02 direction so sorry I'm all done with my thoughts

48:06 yours no I I agree I agree I think you

48:09 know I think people take that stuff very very seriously and it's one thing to get your items stolen in game if you put

48:14 yourself In Harm's Way but to have hacking involved to take it I mean I

48:17 really don't look at it any different than hacking a bank account and taking money out I mean you're definitely

48:20 taking away something somebody worked for yeah and we're not talking like you

48:24 board their ship and you gank right board their one11 port and send

48:31 some an UB packet and like knock it over and steal all their crap yeah it's

48:36 bad I meant yoink I said gank I don't know how that slipped

48:40 out yoink this [ __ ] yeah oh see whatever

48:44 like I was I was going for The Simpsons thing and completely I know it kind of

48:48 works but not fully what I meant to say was yo and I have no idea how that work

48:52 we all kind of let it slide cuz you're not that much of a gamer anyways so we were like ah wow

48:57 wow wow you know what's funny is I can't I can't beat the last level of BioShock

49:01 Infinite but you can't beat it on a shield no I tried it on my computer last

49:06 night I'm only a quarter of the way through I really need to finish that now

49:09 that I actually like have time and you know what I'm more of a gamer these days

49:13 and you give me credit for I actually game a fair bit on NVIDIA

49:16 Shield I play BioShock Infinite that's the most recent game that I've played in

49:21 a long time I'm a I'm more of a gamer these days than you give me credit for I

49:25 played BIOS sharing that's the most recent game I've played I started limbo

49:29 he played it for like 5 minutes you started limbo I'm almost done Super Meat

49:35 Boy what are the release dates of all these games not that that really matters

49:39 to be completely honest care I hate you anyway the point is do you have anything

49:43 to add to the in-game items thing or can I uh no I think it's awesome I've seen a

49:46 whole bunch of stuff like this happen I know people that have had their accounts hacked I've had my account hacked I've

49:51 had my account hacked and all my games stolen from from origin and I took it

49:54 was a nightmare to get it all back took me like a week at one point in time my

49:57 character in wow was worth a lot of money and my WOW account got hacked like

50:03 many times despite doing many precautions it didn't really seem to

50:07 matter all right so let's move on to the next thing um valve had this controller

50:13 idea that was like revolutionary and groundbreaking we were

50:18 going to have touchpads Oh I thought we were all going

50:22 to do it now Barnacles was doing it and then are we are we are we going for this

50:28 or what we doing I'm confused what kind of show is this I don't know the point

50:32 is valve had this Innovative controller idea with touchpads and I kind of looked

50:37 at it and I went okay that's cool in

50:40 theory let's see how this pans out and I swear every single revision to the steam

50:45 controller makes it closer and closer and closer to this which is The Shield

50:51 controller and I'm not saying that valve was copying something that didn't exist

50:54 yet I'm saying that the shield controller is not really inherently any

50:57 different from an Xbox 360 controller and so the closer it gets the um the the

51:03 less Innovative it is and I just have to wonder if there's any point in them even

51:07 continuing to develop this thing eventually going to get rid of the touch

51:10 pads even yeah so so the latest iteration here sorry I'm making Bar CLE

51:16 go away for a bit here sorry sorry we've got a couple shoulder

51:20 buttons we have a touchpad uh there's

51:23 those back buttons basically everything's the same they change one of

51:26 the directional pads with a joystick yes so we've got a joystick and abxy now uh

51:32 which originally was not the case um I personally am starting to kind of like

51:36 it but I'm not a huge fan of both analog

51:42 sticks being but like on the bottom I'd

51:46 prefer to have a d-pad here an analog stick up here uh your thoughts with how

51:50 I hold it I like having my an careful where you go with this

51:54 sentence I like having my analog stick

51:57 on the top of the left side because I

52:01 kind of like push it into my left hand which makes my left hand go up a little

52:04 bit it's just cuz I've used an Xbox 360 controller for so long so I like it

52:07 being up there so this is still going to bug me unless I just use that touchpad

52:11 all the time right but then uh why would I use this controller Jerry touchpads

52:16 touchpads on game controllers um honestly I thought it was really cool

52:20 and they first did it and then I was like nah this isn't going to work

52:23 because there just you don't have that Precision you don't you get you just get

52:27 used to using the thumb stick after so long and when you pick up a controller

52:30 it's just having something you have to constantly keep picking your finger up

52:33 and moving it back and dragging around and stuff would drive me absolutely

52:36 crazy well they demoed playing Portal but then if you watch that demo they

52:41 weren't there was they weren't doing anything particularly complicated the

52:45 only I maintain that the only games that really makes a ton of sense for is stuff

52:49 like Civ and if it was going to be turn base

52:52 kind of slow where you can kind of sweep around and there's probably more things

52:55 on screen if and if you were going to play Civ anyway wouldn't you just get

52:58 like a TV dinner stand and like a ducky a ducky mini much better and a mouse

53:03 that would be much better I guess it really depends how the games are developed but honestly games are going

53:07 to be developed either for a keyboard mouse experience or for a controller

53:10 experience I mean until they start specifically making game profiles that

53:15 like suit thumb touch pads it's going to feel awkward and my my thing is that

53:18 they the original design catered to

53:21 they're adding something to the market so that hopefully more games could be

53:24 played in this situation and now they're moving away from that to

53:30 the point where before I was like okay maybe I could have this controller for those couple games where it makes a ton

53:34 of sense and now I'm like no I'll just probably stick to a 360 style controller

53:39 and be fine yeah I think what it comes down to just what people are used to I

53:42 mean you've been using the 360 controller and that style of controller for so long that it's going to be really

53:47 hard to to change over it's just like keyboards right we all we all use you

53:50 know the standard standard layout we don't use dvorac you know some people do

53:54 but it's like who wants to memorize a whole new format just to be a little bit faster I switched to the vorac actually

53:58 and I loved it but it was a serious issue every single time I use someone

54:02 else's computer I bet and that's what ended up making me drop it actually

54:07 because when I switched I wasn't working

54:11 um I was just going to school and then when I started working again I was in an

54:14 IT shop so people's computers would come in and I had to work on tons of

54:18 different people's computers all the time and it just drove me nuts I couldn't memorize both different layos

54:23 so I just dropped that's the problem with deviating from standards is you're on your own right I mean once you do

54:27 that you're carrying your own keyboard everywhere yeah if I only ever used my

54:31 own keyboards it would be fine we had an intern once who brought his own keyboard

54:35 to work every day that's a hardcore intern right there and he had a plastic

54:39 cover for it that kept it dust proofed and everything it was fantastic badass

54:43 he didn't care about the mouse nope well every computer I had at work was a

54:46 mechanical keyboard I I bought mechanical keyboards for my for my two

54:49 offices of my two workstations because I just couldn't stand those little membrane keyboards anymore I have my own

54:54 mechanical keyboards on all my stations now

54:57 which is bizarre because we have so many mechanical keyboards here you don't let

55:00 me use any of them well then you'll ruin them you'll get them all workplace it's

55:05 a really good investment for the workplace because you can tell if people are working with mechanical keyboards

55:09 because you just kind of listen it's

55:12 like it's a good point anything El for

55:17 jills speaking of not being sure if anyone's working um the hard drive

55:21 industry so we first got 4 tbte hard drives back in late 2000

55:26 2011 and if you guys remember leading up

55:30 to that we were getting new hard drive capacities like what every 6 months we

55:34 went from 320 to 640 to to 500 750s and

55:38 1 terabytes and then we got 1 and a half terabytes 2 terabytes 3 terabytes four

55:43 ter and then nothing I still remember being at packs having to explain to

55:47 everybody what don't forget the six that was it Sam I think Samsung made a six or

55:51 was it seate or Samsung I can't remember aachi had a big one I think yeah can't

55:55 remember someone did um but the point is we're finally seeing

56:00 a big move all of a sudden WD just released a red uh 6 terabyte and then

56:06 they went ahead and validated it for up to eight of them in a single enclosure

56:10 so we're talking 48 terabytes in a

56:13 single 8 bay enclosure which is freaking unreal um and Seagate is apparently

56:18 sampling 8 and 10 terabyte hard drive so the original article is from dl. SK this

56:25 is not like to end users or anything but let's just have a brief discussion what

56:30 would you do with 10 tbte hard drives I just back up the internet I

56:35 just back the whole thing up and then cancel my internet subscription save some money that's what I I guess you

56:40 need to now cuzow you're a terrible person I can see

56:46 a lot of people buying two drives and raid oneing them instead of a huge set

56:51 and raid oneing the that's exactly what I do so you could streamline them you don't need massive hard drive arrays as

56:56 hardc cour you don't you won't need like this full tower just because you want a

56:59 lot of hard drives y well my Nas set up as three external drive arrays that each

57:04 hold four driv so I could have a total of 12 of those 10 10 terabyte that'd be

57:08 awesome that'd be absolutely awesome I I you know what's funny is I used to like

57:14 I used to just kind of crave more storage and I was always trying to add

57:17 more storage like I got Windows Home Server V1 um a project which I was super

57:21 sad got just completely destroyed you

57:25 and me both you and me both I still run 2011 and I'm pissed off that they took

57:29 out all the drive pool capability yeah so Drive pool was super cool and I would

57:32 just I would just add drives and add drives and add drives and then I moved

57:36 to 2011 and I finally went with a proper raid because that's what you have to do

57:41 now and um I built like a big fat raid and then I expanded it and that ended up

57:46 being the server that now lives at our office and we used for that and when I

57:50 when I had to move something back to my house cuz I now had no Nas what I

57:54 realized was my personal dat was only taking up about 3 and2 terab on it I

57:59 don't even know what people and that's mine my wife's like we we only have ssds

58:03 in our computers so that's all the mass storage for everyone in my house I can't

58:08 figure out what people are putting on their nazes I have a lot of I have a lot

58:11 more than that just yeah for me it's it's the raw image stuff like when I do

58:14 photography of my family and stuff like a single raw image I have can be 65

58:18 megabytes for just like one raw image I back up um a lot of the work

58:24 I've done here on my own Nas I back up

58:27 like all my school stuff I've ever done all images game I keep game installation

58:32 files for old games MH where you'd like

58:35 need the CD Now if it's not on Steam essentially those aren't that big we're

58:40 talking 650 Meg files we're talking 10 Barnacles photos I have a lot right and

58:46 like I I'll be honest I've never come close to filling up my storage I mean I

58:50 still have 30% free and I'm already ready to go buy the next generation of

58:53 drives it's funny you guys are talking about this cuz I was going to go buy a whole bunch

58:56 the 6 terab Reds to replace my existing one and two terab drives that are in

59:00 there so what I'm planning to use the new high-capacity drives for is I'm

59:04 going to because right now we have way too many drives we have a 21 terabyte

59:09 array that's made up of three terabyte drives it's in raid six so there's two

59:12 for redundancy there and then we have a couple hot spares just in case um redund

59:18 is a big deal everybody please use that no I was saying redundancy is a big deal

59:21 I learned a bad lesson when I first set up my first Windows Home Server is uh

59:26 yeah I wasn't replicating the data across any of the drives and and I lost

59:29 some stuff that I'll never get back and that's that that's freaking horrible so

59:33 now everything in my house I just consider half the storage is what I get

59:36 because everything's redundant one way or another yeah so I'll be using the new

59:39 drives to build an offsite so that we can be doing a nightly sync to somewhere

59:43 that's not here I was doing that for some essential stuff before with my home

59:47 one but it just doesn't have enough space on it it's uh it's like kind of an

59:51 older not very mini Port raid card and I only have one tab drives for it we don't

59:55 actually have a ton of extra drives around here because if you use them all

59:59 yeah we don't do we don't do a ton of hard drive reviews no one's released

60:02 anything in the last however many years so what what are we going to review so

60:06 we're not going to get review samples or anything and then like and every time

60:10 that there is a new hard drive it's like Yay put it in the server it's bigger a

60:15 little bit Yeah so there's not much to say but I yeah I guess all I would do

60:19 with them if I had two 10 tab drives I would just go straight raid one two

60:23 drives raid one done because that's what I mean yeah I don't need amazing right

60:28 speeds for network attached storage and then raid one you do get a slight read

60:32 speed benefit from it so great yeah like

60:36 that that single or double Drive raid ones will be pretty sweet actually

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64:48 it now welcome back how are education learn your

64:52 book people are requesting that you teach C++ or C instead of C by the way

64:57 no God okay one one thing you can't make C and C++ funny you can't are we about

65:02 to get a rent I would love to hear it let let's hear a programming rant about

65:05 why one programming language is much funnier than the others please Okay C

65:10 and C++ require you to do all your own memory management and pointer Precision

65:14 logic and all that it takes forever to get anywhere I will personally watch if

65:18 you do CN C+ plus all right screw it I'm doing a CN C++ I'm be like all right

65:23 guys we're going to do hello world and it'll be a four hour long damn

65:29 it I like C because it's like in 100 lines of code you can like you know you

65:33 can make something cool and CN C++ 100 lines of code yeah you can do hello

65:37 world and like properly return something um it's not that bad but but still I I

65:42 just I I prefer language higher level languages with rapid development and

65:45 stuff creating applications stuff like that if I'm not creating drivers I'm not going to be using native

65:50 code so yeah that's how it's going to be

65:53 fine whatever whatever I'm not doing Java okay I'm not doing Java take that

65:59 back if I go work for Google I will do Java just not right

66:03 now oh now we got everybody over here doing like doing C++ nice see out hello

66:08 world all right fine fine God these

66:13 people oh twitch chat okay how I love

66:17 them I'm in the steam music baa thing

66:21 with wow good for you you got a prize

66:26 I such a Breer everything is about you

66:29 and you're always so down on our guests being all insulting to them that's no I

66:33 have no want insulted Barnacles no lonus

66:37 just keeps making me hungry he said smage Borg I was like yeah I got

66:42 you hey I want to I wanted to ask you guys about something earlier you were

66:45 talking about the water cooling stuff and that you're going to do the whole room water cooling uh I was thinking you

66:50 guys should put a kitty pool outside as the reservoir with a curtain on it and a

66:53 shower and literally just before the RADS put the shower so you can just go

66:57 out there and have a nice you know heated shower all the time and then it

67:00 would pick it up run it through the RADS pull the Heat and then Loop it back through that would be awesome that would

67:04 make the funniest imagine to clean and and decontaminate that Loop yeah can you

67:08 imagine having like ball sack gunk in your water block no no it's okay just

67:13 put a fil just put a filter in there on your Loop you said you have an industrial pump so just put yourself

67:17 like one of those microbial filters on it you'll be fine you know how there's

67:20 that like junk face commercial thing junk

67:23 Loop just don't use clear clear tubing you don't want to see little floaties

67:27 flying through there it's like it's like yeah my uh my GPU is overheating there's

67:32 a pube in it you said it you said it I hey I I

67:37 showed restraint there oh my God that'd be so funny you

67:41 like take your water block apart and there's like a cat ball here oh my God

67:46 no actually Loop contamination was one of the big things I was worried about

67:50 with that project because um I I actually I found other projects where

67:55 people had gotten the the notion and

67:58 it's a mistaken notion but had gotten the notion that having a a very large

68:02 Reservoir will make your Loop run cooler uh what it does is it makes your Loop

68:07 take longer to reach equilibrium but your temps will not be appreciably lower

68:12 unless your Reservoir is also a heat dissipation device especially when we're

68:16 running so many systems so if you had aluminum fins on it or something like

68:20 that where it was actually cooling the water in it then that does something otherwise you're just creating a much

68:24 longer delay while the water heats up so I found a couple projects where people were using

68:29 things like 5 G pales for their liquid cooling reservoirs and one of those guys

68:34 I mean again we're talking people who think that the reservoir will cool the

68:38 loop so they're not doing their research like I'm not saying that's a stupid

68:42 assumption I I thought that at one point until I did my research and found out it

68:46 doesn't work that way but we're talking people who didn't do a lot of research but anyway one of these guys said he had

68:51 enough Gunk growing in his Loop within two weeks that his that his pump was not

68:55 able to move any water through CPU just to clarify for anyone who wants to do a

68:59 mineral oil build you still need a fair amount of volume in your tank yeah don't

69:04 just be like oh I don't need that much it's okay yeah uh speaking of mineral

69:08 oil cooled machines our mineral oil uh

69:12 kit from Puget systems has shipped and our I think it's here 12 gon oh it

69:17 arrived I think so oh well our 12 gallon thing of mineral oil has also shipped oh

69:22 I don't think that arrived no that's not here I shipped it to the US and then it

69:25 up so we are going to be doing For Better or For Worse an matx mineral oil

69:30 cooled machine wish us so much luck are

69:35 you guys just going to fully submerge the whole thing I'm sorry are you going

69:38 to fully submerge everything you bet except for the hard drive are the hard

69:41 drive you can't though right there's no hard drive positioning in this tank

69:44 configuration anyways cuz the store the store I used to work at like 15 years

69:47 ago they literally had a fish aquarium they just filled with mineral oil and

69:51 everything's just dumped in there like they didn't even do it nicely they just dumped the motherboard dumped the power

69:55 all the fans spin it like one RPM and it just works it's

69:59 crazy that's fantastic yeah yeah um

70:03 especially with their kits it's like honestly a lot easier than you'd think

70:06 cuz you just build it on the plate that they have and then slide it in and then

70:10 pour oil in and you're done okay how do you how do you even clean that though

70:13 like if you ever wanted to take that out and upgrade it I mean you just call it a loss as soon as you dip it in there like

70:18 you're on basically it's going to take

70:21 you forever to dry out the component if it's something like a graphics card that

70:25 has a sticker on it which is less common these days but was very common back when

70:28 I did it that sticker will come off anything that's rubber will probably

70:32 deteriorate die and particle away um but

70:36 most things will work some things you're going to have to pay attention to is stuff like thermal paste could be kind

70:40 of grabbed away from it so if you take it out of the oil you have to make sure

70:44 that you re thermal paste pretty much everything wow um and you're probably

70:48 going to have to drip dry your stuff for a long time unless you feel like

70:52 sacrificing bottles and bottles of some

70:55 type of non-conductive solution that you can clean all the oil off with like

70:59 isopropyl alcohol or something like that but you have to be careful with those

71:03 two because some of the ones that I've seen people suggest are really

71:07 aggressive and can like eat away at metals and stuff which is not good for

71:12 your components so be careful about what you're going to wash it with the way I

71:15 did it was I just drip R everything and everything worked except for my graphics card because I forgot to redo the

71:20 thermal paast and tested it and then it died but everything else worked so

71:23 basically we're going to I have a sacrificial graphics card that we're going to use I have an old 5870 ifinity

71:28 6 Edition that has a Spitfire cooler on it so it's got a nice big cooler so we

71:32 could probably actually do it with no fan on anything like just fans o flow so

71:39 good because it pushes the oil I know but it's a very very large cooler and it

71:43 extends away from the graphics card itself so I think I remember that cooler

71:48 yeah we it might be okay I mean we'll try it and see how it goes and then we'll go from there but yeah it should

71:52 be pretty cool hey yeah and we have an entire box of like Tower heat sinks yeah

71:57 and those are going to be the best for that situation anyways unless I've seen

72:00 some people started screwing around with putting like AO liquid coolers and just

72:05 hanging the radiator outside of the thing so you have an individual cooler

72:09 for the CPU and then you cool everything else with oil don't ask I didn't the

72:13 coolest one that I've seen was somebody took a foam box and they filled it with

72:17 mineral oil and then they took the condenser out of one of those little Windows AC units and just set it on the

72:21 top and had a pump just circulating the liquid over the top of the condenser and

72:25 it was just keeping it like almost freezing that's

72:30 fantastic and it would be easy to find a window air conditioner that you could

72:33 just cannibalize for something like that um I'll be back in a moment do you want

72:36 to do the steam uh the steam music topic make sure you screen share with them and

72:40 stuff yeah you know how to do it right here let's just switch laptops for a sec

72:43 Windows P we'll switch our identical looking laptops hooray oh oh there you

72:50 go all right so the steam music interface beta isn't like uh that of a

72:55 looker and there isn't a ton of support for different formats so they haven't

72:59 actually added any support from when it was just in Steam Big Picture so as of

73:02 right now it supports stuff like MP3 and that's it and they have a quote

73:08 on their website that says unless you're a big fan of the play button you may not

73:12 find your favorite music feature exists here yet so there isn't a ton of

73:16 features but what is actually really cool I'm excited for you to show this um

73:21 is the fact that you can play it and mess around with it in the steam overlay

73:24 so for me I don't know if this is the default buttons but for me it's just shift Tab and it brings up the steam

73:28 overlay and I can change what music I have and what music I'm playing and all

73:32 that kind of stuff which is kind of great it looks very simple so I'm going

73:36 to bring it up here in one second Windows

73:39 P oh jeez send or duplicate

73:42 duplicate wow you fed stripped that

73:47 quick so this is essentially what it looks like so if you in your library

73:50 window in your drop down instead of selecting games you just select um music

73:56 and then it just has a list of all your music and then this player right here

74:00 this one individual popup is essentially the player that you get extremely simple

74:04 there's no way as of right now as far as I can tell to add all of your music to a

74:07 que it only works with MP3s there's almost no features it has Shuffle it has

74:12 Shuffle basically it has all the features of an iPod Shuffle MP3 or go

74:17 home man doesn't does an iPod Shuffle have shuffle all I don't know I never had one because

74:23 they were dumb I didn't have one

74:27 okay um but yeah so it's not a ton of features but the whole idea of it right

74:31 now is that they're trying to get feature suggestions from the community

74:34 so send them suggestions and they'll try and figure it out all right so

74:38 uh you mean like this one

74:43 yes oh it's heavy all right so there's

74:47 my compressor over there why do you just have this laying around I'm sorry why do

74:52 you just have this laying around like well I used this for my old uh my old

74:57 chilled liquid system with uh I had an

75:00 e6600 that I think I had at 4 GHz 247

75:04 stable I think that was the frequency I had it running at and uh I actually had

75:09 this mounted to a uh like a like a

75:12 cooler like like an ice box cooler I had

75:16 this mounted to that on like a thing underneath my case so that it could be

75:21 mounted all the time I had the whole thing insulated so my CPU load temps

75:25 were in the sub te degrees um full load that's awesome it

75:31 looks like even custom mounted some 120 mm fans on there too to replace the big

75:35 huge one with by custom mounting you mean uh zip ties and all the uh all the

75:41 Silverstone 120 Ms that I salvaged from customer builds then uh yes so basically

75:47 I I used to build all of the of the super high-end liquid cooled systems at

75:52 ncx and those systems were all and Silverstone tj07 so that case came with

75:58 a couple of 120 mm fans in the basement

76:01 but most of the time I would end up ripping those out and replacing them

76:05 with some other high-end fan because these were customers buying 3,000 4,000

76:09 5,000 $7,000 machines right and most of

76:13 them didn't care so I was like when people would pick up the systems a lot

76:16 of them were local orders I'd be like yo can I hold on to these fans so over the

76:20 years I I have lost more of this model

76:24 of fan than probably most people have ever owned of any

76:28 fan wow it's pretty insane you have to

76:31 repurpose that for the mineral oil build you have to I bet I could repurpose it for the

76:37 whole room no we probably shouldn't do that if the idea is to try to not kick

76:42 he I mean we could mount it to the roof mount it to the roof the only problem is

76:46 with it if you mounted it outside you wouldn't have that cool air return so

76:50 the I don't know how efficient the condenser would be cuz I mean the whole window unit right is you have all the

76:54 Heat exha in outside and then it's circulating the cool air inside over the

76:57 condenser I just don't know how much heat you'd be able to get rid of you just keep recycled recycling that heated

77:02 air you'd have to duck the hell out of it mm but inside it would work great for

77:07 that mineral oil build that would just be cool do it I don't know if it's worth it

77:12 going with like the smallest mineral oil case cuz we wanted to image this giant

77:17 thing and this has like leaves on it and stuff so if we win with the some be fine

77:23 dude all right I'm going to I'm going to go put this thing away cuz it's

77:26 extremely heavy uh what else we got we have I can jump to the Microsoft topic

77:30 yeah sure just to make it super awkward o yay so your favorite person in the

77:37 world has decided to that he's going to be merging all separate versions of

77:42 Windows into one yes so essentially they're bringing

77:47 the like Windows desktop Windows phone and Xbox teams all together into one

77:53 little group and that one team will be streamlining the next version of Windows

77:58 from all these three operating systems into one operating system yeah it's what

78:01 it sounds like and to be honest if they do it right I think that's the right

78:04 direction to go because I think it's just too hard to maintain three completely different operating systems I

78:09 mean so it it makes sense but as far as

78:13 yeah the the layoffs don't make sense because like you still need all that intellectual property I don't get it

78:18 yeah I don't really understand well the issue I have with this idea is that

78:22 we're assuming that Microsoft the company that brought us the Metro

78:27 UI um when they were only trying to

78:30 converge two screens going be able to converge all of these he going to be

78:34 able to do what Apple decided was impossible when they developed a

78:38 completely new operating system called iOS good luck this this is why I say if

78:45 if they do it right I agree if because no offense to Microsoft that if is an

78:50 impossibility but Apple knows UI a lot

78:53 better than they or has demonstrated over the years that they've been more

78:58 progressively minded in terms of UI than Microsoft one thing that I'm hoping is

79:02 going to happen is that it's not a UI convergence

79:06 necessarily okay so it's a different it's a different skin over top of the

79:10 same back no because they're they're they if you go to the basically exact

79:15 same announcement that they made in April which is where they're doing Universal apps if they just stick with

79:20 the universal apps thing have everyone working together so that the UI feel

79:24 feel the same like so that the idea is

79:28 the same so that different menus will give you the same options and stuff like

79:31 that but they aren't exactly the same I

79:34 think that would be good okay so here's the problem I'm going to show you I'm

79:38 going to show you that's Microsoft I'm going to show you what the problem is

79:42 okay so problem Pro here hold on we got to screen share with me we got to screen

79:46 share with me the problem is that if you

79:49 have something that's sharing features or sharing resources between a couple of

79:53 different ation of the same thing then you end up with this oh no so hold on oh

80:00 what what are you going to wreck now hold on how do I even open the Metro UI

80:04 on this there we go all right so I'm Windows key no no it's disabled it's

80:10 disabled on this one so if I can even get there we go stupid thing will even

80:14 open so I want to say for example no no

80:19 no no no right right right right right I remember what I was trying to do okay we'll get there eventually everyone

80:23 we'll get there eventually so users okay so I want to I want to edit

80:30 user accounts or something wait what

80:34 what why can't I do it wait what why can't I change my password why can't I

80:37 do anything oh what are you talking about that's the most intuitive UI ever just look at that Majestic thing right

80:42 there what I'm mean I'm in here now what hold on a second why why what why why am

80:47 learn the Windows dude learn to Windows I know right and then and then and then

80:53 hold on hold on hold on no it gets better it gets better so I go in here

80:56 and I'm like oh yeah well hey I want to uh you know resolution I want to change

81:01 my resolution or something so okay I

81:05 actually hey it's intentionally obvious gated so only Power users can figure it

81:09 out dang it you know what the stupid thing here is I actually I had an

81:13 example that I remembered where within Metro UI it dumps you back to the

81:17 desktop can't remember what it was anymore there's actually a couple

81:21 different places yeah there's a couple different places it does it I couldn't remember if resolution was one of them

81:25 but the point is that I think when you give people this um you know oh well

81:30 this one's optimal for tablets or this one's optimal for desktop or for 10 foot

81:35 or whatever else I think you leave a lot of room for Corners to get cut well we

81:40 don't want to redo the UI for um changing your user password so we're

81:44 just going to dump you in this other interface that you obviously if you

81:48 wanted to use it you would have been using it already yeah and then there's places where there's duplication right I

81:53 mean there's a lot of places where the same EX features are exposed through the desktop or through the modern shell and

81:57 that gets a little confusing too I'm okay with that personally yeah I'm I'd

82:01 rather have a duplicated feature than missing functionality in one cuz that

82:06 infuriates me when I'm looking for something going to user accounts in the

82:09 desktop version and be able to change your password and then going to user accounts and Metro whatever the heck and

82:14 being able to change your password I think that's fine no no I I agree and what I do when

82:18 I when I install windows8 the very first thing I do is I go change all the file associations so they all go to desktop

82:23 applications oh oh my goodness that is so annoying whenever I fire up a new I

82:28 don't know what it is but whenever I fire up a new Windows 8 machine I'm

82:32 always in a hurry so in the case of in the case of this because if I wasn't in

82:36 a hurry I'd install Windows 7 on it um shut up dude come on SO in the case of

82:41 this machine I was I was in a hurry because we were supposed to do our first

82:46 sponsorship spot where we were using these computers on the L show and I

82:51 needed to get my machine set up I needed to get all my logins done so I could

82:55 screen share and my Twitter and my blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

82:58 all that stuff and what happened

83:03 was I was like I was hurrying through it and I went and I opened some photo I

83:08 think it was like the lower third for the show and I spazzed like lost it cuz

83:15 it opens in this stupid application that

83:18 has no functionality takes forever to

83:22 launch in spite of the fact that I'm running on an SSD it's like maybe you're

83:26 a smart guyy you're a programmer maybe you can explain this to me why the hell

83:31 could any application that's let's say let's say the photo viewer let's say

83:35 it's super bloated because it doesn't do anything so let's say it's super bloated

83:39 and it's like a you know 30 Meg program okay why could a 30 Meg program ever

83:44 take multiple seconds to open on something that can read at 550 megabytes

83:51 per second with a processor that's not even being taxed

83:55 the the the short answer to that is dependencies on other services uh it's

84:00 not why what is it even doing with the other services it doesn't do anything no

84:05 no it does it does this is the thing people don't realize is most of the modern applications that you're using

84:09 are based on HTML 5 that's rendered through mshtml which is the ie's

84:13 rendering engine which also has dependencies from the rest of the system

84:17 so a lot of that slowness that you're experiencing everything is all those

84:20 subsystems coming online and into alignment so that it can render your

84:23 experience that's stupid that's terrible but the whole

84:28 point is is it makes it easier for developers to make an app because they

84:31 literally can make an app that compiles at runtime rather than having to

84:34 actually like know how to code really dumb I should probably re rephrase that

84:39 because that is a form of coding I don't want I don't want all the HTML 5 jocks

84:42 to come after me but but that's the that's the simple

84:46 answer is whenever you have something that sits on top of a bunch of subsystems all those subsystems take a

84:50 memory like people used to laugh uh do you guys remember like this goes way

84:53 back but you remember that competition that was held in actually I think it was held in Canada assembly do you remember

84:58 that when they used to have the competition where who could make the coolest program in 5 kilobytes yeah and

85:03 so back then they did everything in assembly every single instruction to the

85:07 processor was raw they would try to make these things insanely small well now we

85:10 do the opposite of that now what we do is we build a layer on top of a layer on

85:14 top of a layer on top of another layer that's like a cousin of another layer and then another layer on top of that so

85:18 that you only have to write five lines of code but at the end of the day you're running 200 million lines of code half

85:23 of which you don't don't need and that's the unfortunate part with higher level

85:27 languages the thing I wish had happened then and this is going to seem like an

85:30 odd thing to wish for is if we're going to do that anyway then I wish Microsoft

85:35 had had the stones to just stick with what they did with Vista and say look

85:40 you want to have a great experience with this operating system get more RAM get a

85:45 better CPU they couldn't though they couldn't because I know they couldn't

85:49 but I wish they had oh you and me both

85:53 but they had to that's the thing is whenever you create a product that's

85:56 designed for a whole array of devices you have to develop for the lowest common denominator which unfortunately

86:00 is like a Casio watch with Windows 8 I mean it's kind of like it runs on this

86:04 for crying out loud what is it this this is a Surface RT this thing's got like

86:09 less RAM than like a flip phone and and and it runs on here so that's the

86:13 problem they tried to make it super small and that's the thing is I mean if

86:17 if Windows 8 if Windows 8 was designed to just when it boots up let's say I was

86:22 willing to sacrifice a little bit of boot up time cuz frankly who cares who

86:25 who shuts down their computer SDS too

86:28 you can be so freaking sleep man so no and they do have they have look ahead

86:32 caching and stuff like that like the system is supposed to learn your your

86:36 Tendencies which apps you open and use most often and then it's supposed to

86:39 load those ahead of time like them in the memory I think an operating system

86:43 should probably assume that at some point the user is probably consumer

86:46 grade operating system that user is probably going to open a photo yes I

86:51 agree so why not just have it ready for me I guess that's the question and

86:55 obviously it's not your problem anymore but nope that's that's my frustration as the

87:01 end user who kind of looks at this thing and goes this is an app that has no

87:04 functionality it's bloated beyond all reason and it just makes my life worse

87:09 it does nothing to make my life better the thing that makes me really upset is

87:14 a lot of people like like you're telling me about your bad Windows 8 experience and your your bad Windows 8 experence so

87:18 far has involved the modern UI right and everybody talks about the the the modern

87:23 shell the modern exper expence and the start screen if you will and it's like

87:27 those two things Define the operating system from the customer's perspective

87:31 but it's like if you look at everything else if you look at the memory manager

87:34 the kernel the how all the stuff that was redesigned for Windows 8 it is so

87:37 much faster and so much more streamlined than Windows 7 ever was but like why

87:41 Windows 9 will be good it happens every time yeah but

87:46 that's the that's the thing that really sucks is it's like all you do is you install Windows 8 change your file type

87:50 associations throw a classic start menu on it and the thing will run circles

87:53 around window 7 it just does I guess but

87:57 every in you'll run into something and it's incredibly frustrating and the

88:00 problem is that it just doesn't matter to me because I've I've always been one

88:04 of those guys who like I loved Windows Vista I thought Windows Vista was such a

88:08 huge improve going back to Windows XP felt like going back to the Stone Age

88:12 once I'd been using Vista for 6 months nine months when everyone else was was

88:16 still shunning it because I was running you know four or eight gigs of memory at

88:21 the time and I was running uh a very fast dual core at I think I either had

88:24 an e6600 or a q6600 or something like

88:27 that which was at the time the Q66 was like a $700 processor oh yeah so

88:32 obviously no one was running that stuff but for me I was like yeah this is great

88:35 so I've always been one of those people who's just thrown more Hardware at the problem so I mean even with something

88:38 like Windows 7 let's say you have some inefficiency or something I mean I've

88:43 got an 8 SSD raid zero ra what do I care something's like 20% slower I'll never

88:50 see it um so you go and put in

88:54 conveniences in front of me like not being able to alter a user account

88:57 unless I go into the modern UI well screw you then I'm not going to use it

89:02 and I think that's where a lot of people get stuck and are there great things

89:06 about Windows 8 yes absolutely it's just I'm not going to

89:12 tear my hair out every time I need to do some basic thing and relearn it over

89:16 that I don't know no no I I completely

89:19 understand and there are situations where even I would run Windows 7 in place of Windows 8 I mean they're

89:23 they're pretty rare situations but you know to to each their own I guess you

89:27 said like you said with Vista right Vista was if you didn't if you only had

89:30 you know a Gigabyte of memory you were screwed right ter absolutely SC remember

89:35 that horrendous ready boost solution they came up with yep no I remember

89:39 ready boost yeah let's plug in a USB thumb drive and make it look ahead cash

89:43 it'll be awesome uh stupid but for the

89:46 record it actually did work decent as long as you spent a million billion dollars on your USB stick I know it

89:51 worked but yeah that's exactly it the USB drives were more expensive than just

89:54 buying RAM and they had to be really fast ones too that was the thing is I

89:58 remember if you plugged in one that wasn't certified you're like screw it do it anyways it would actually slow you

90:03 down good times I know people that did it for laptops though it it was mostly

90:07 for laptops it really was and honestly a cool feature in windows8 is uh Windows

90:11 to go you can actually install it to a usb3 thumb drive boot the entire

90:16 operating system and run it right off the USB drive and I think that's actually a cool feature to have yeah

90:20 it's a really cool feature it's too bad that all of the instructions for how to do it are so OB as if they don't want

90:26 anyone to do it that they don't they don't want you to go into a library they

90:29 don't want you going into a library and like booting their computer off your thumb drive and like hacking the

90:32 Pentagon so it's yeah the kinds of people who are going to be hacking the Pentagon are going to be able to make

90:36 their way through the instructions you might as well just make it easier we wanted to do a video on and

90:42 but hey it gives me something to make YouTube videos for the next year apparently cuz like I got all kinds of

90:47 things that I can tell people about they don't know so that'll be

90:50 fun yeah that that was really infuriating cuz I found out about that

90:53 feature I thought it was amazing and I was like we were going to video 100% or

90:57 booting vhd that's another thing they don't really advertise but you can in Windows 8 you can actually boot a

91:01 virtual you can boot a vhd virtual disc and the benefits of that is now you can

91:05 put that virtual disc on anything not even just a USB thumb drive you can literally just transport it

91:11 anywhere oh well we'll see we'll see how

91:14 Microsoft does without me waiting for Windows

91:19 9 don't you mean Windows Barnacles Edition with tears on the box tears I

91:23 would definitely get I would buy that somebody please Photoshop that if you're

91:27 watching this I want to see a Windows barnic Edition box if you ever did like

91:31 a patreon or like a like a like a Kickstarter to like like Jay's

91:36 Kickstarter to fund him to CES or whatever else yeah if you're if you have

91:40 a reward tier that is a copy of Windows

91:43 a reward tier you get a tier yes ouch if you have a reward tier that

91:49 is a copy of Windows with with a picture of you crying on the box I'll buy it I

91:55 promise deal it'll it'll happen if I ever do anything there will be that

91:58 level okay it better not be so expensive that I can't afford it no no it's I I

92:04 know you've only got Lambo money you don't have that Bugatti money yet so

92:07 I'll keep it down there all right so speaking of employees and not performing

92:13 very well these ones didn't get these

92:16 ones didn't get sacked um no no no these

92:19 these are the ones not performing very well um these guys didn't get sacked but

92:23 what they did do was voluntarily give back a part of a bonus

92:28 so Samsung employees reportedly gave back 2.9 Million in bonuses to apologize

92:34 for poor performance this was posted by dietr W on the Forum and this is

92:38 apparently fairly um fairly common

92:41 practice in uh in South Korean companies

92:46 especially publicly publicly traded ones so to be clear uh this was across a mere

92:52 200 managers in the m mobile division so I ran the numbers I kind of went okay so

92:57 they gave back about a quarter of the bonuses each if we average out the whole

93:02 thing and there are fewer than 200 of them so of their total $60,000 bonus

93:07 they gave back about 15,000 so they still took a $45,000 bonus on top of

93:11 whatever salaries they're making so they're still like still that's pretty

93:15 damn significant to apologize for poor performance and a significant drop in

93:19 market share that has resulted in um

93:23 only Lely billions of L I like how they still think they deserve the 45,000

93:27 though they're like oh we sorry for our poor performance here you can have

93:30 15,000 back we still need the

93:33 rest yeah so that was that was a little bit confusing to me it's like it's it's

93:37 this is we're not talking we're not talking Nintendo where it's like yeah we

93:41 are slashing all of the executives pay

93:45 voluntarily because we need to do better massive amounts by like massive amounts

93:49 we're talking a onetime bonus we're not talking a decrease in salary and we're

93:53 talking like a show of Good Good Will good faith like

93:58 I'm a super baller here's part of it back here's a few company meals well I'm

94:02 not I'm not going to Korea guys because I'm not I'm not giving back my bonuses

94:05 I'm sorry if I if I performed poorly and you gave me a bonus then then you suck

94:11 company you need like you need to reevaluate what you're

94:15 doing yeah that's something I really don't get like I I don't get bonuses at

94:19 all around here apparently because my boss is a jerk but if I did get bonuses

94:24 he names his company all these stupid names I know he calls his company after

94:27 himself that's like who does he think he is like you know what

94:33 AEL just saying some other companies have done it and it worked you ever get

94:36 a bonus give it back give it back they use their last name for one the Michael

94:41 Dell guy how about Michael's a different Michael but they

94:46 sell arts and crafts do you like that company do I like that company yeah hey

94:51 L is just for fun you should you should actually go and like talk to your whole Med your whole Media Group team or

94:55 whatever and be like guys I'm going to give you a $100 bonus but I think you

94:59 should get 50% of it

95:02 back see what happens I I want to see I want to see if the whole American or

95:06 Canadian mentality is the same as the Korean mentality I want to see if

95:09 everybody just offers up that all that 50% we should do like new company

95:13 signing we should do that as a Channel Super Fun that would be hilarious yeah

95:17 where I I award each person a bonus and then tell them that I really knowing you

95:21 it's going to be like a percentage of the like Vlog Style just walk up and be

95:25 like I would like to record you with this $100 give it to him in like 250s or

95:29 something or a couple 20s and be like now how much of that do you want to give

95:33 back to the company for your poor performance see what happens that would

95:38 be so funny that's terrible I just hope he doesn't get

95:44 hurt speaking of terrible and getting hurt um Samsung is taking on beats with

95:51 their level head phones I mean it's the it's a pretty

95:57 it's a pretty blatant uh case of going

96:00 straight after someone else's product because are they trying to level them

96:04 well no it's because beats is like a music term and level is like a you know

96:08 music term and anyway the point is now

96:12 Samsung also has headphones that are expensive um fashionable and according

96:18 to the verge and they didn't even put a name on this article it just says by

96:22 Verge staff so according to the verge for the most

96:26 part well because I think a whole bunch of different people tried it on his stuff for the most part they sound all

96:30 right except the iners which are apparently just bad so let's take bets

96:35 on which company's going to come out with volume that'll be the next all you

96:38 have the level the beats and then volume I mean if someone was honest

96:44 about it we'd get a Bas line the base

96:47 line of headphones that's taking it to the whole

96:51 new to a whole new level level wait no we already that one damn it in base out

96:55 base on my wife has a pair of Beats headphones and honestly why why why why

96:59 hold on hold on I got I literally they were a $300 pair of headphones and I

97:03 bought them off my friend that was pissed off at them for like 20 bucks and

97:06 their noise active noise cancelling and that's all I all I like them for you put

97:10 them on you flip the little butt in the entire world the spears I don't even plug the Jack into

97:15 anything okay well you're using them right so I'll give you that I use it for

97:20 on the lawn the best would be if he had like in that he wore and then he put the

97:23 those over top like you see Gamers do every once in

97:27 a while so he's like yeah I listen to music on these they're like nice iates

97:30 or something and then I use the Beats which cost like 20 bucks for noise cancelling that'd be funny you put the

97:35 inar monitors on you just put the headphones over the top of them everything you're like yeah check out my

97:38 Beats guys you're all listening to something way better

97:41 underneath that's doing it right I don't know if that makes it better or worse in

97:46 school yet still popular with headphones I'm sorry how to be cool in school but

97:50 still use good headphones yeah exactly do you guys remember the headphones that

97:53 had the bass transducers in them cuz they couldn't put good enough speakers in them to actually create bass so they

97:58 would just shake your head no oh I have

98:02 used a gaming headset that has a similar thing where it's like vibrating thing

98:06 yeah that vibrating uh did you ever try those yeah they suck I had one I think

98:10 it was like the Ben heck 51s or something from some company and I

98:14 remember if you cranked them up all the way it would blur your vision like they

98:17 shook so hard on your head it it would just seriously screw with your vision

98:21 and make your jaw hurt and I was like why is this a thing you know you know

98:24 that list that you've gotten me to get of all the different things that I want to try and get us to sample one of the

98:29 things is a base enhancing vest oh

98:32 that's actually sounds kind of cool that's cool it's it's like a chest piece

98:36 thing that you wear and and it like pulses whenever base goes up that sounds

98:40 pretty badass actually there's one that electrocutes you and there's one that actually has the audio transducers that

98:45 just shake I want the one that electrocutes you that would be the

98:48 little muscle contractors like a seizure on the ground while you're trying to list music this ises

98:53 you go flip it off your desk and actually head knock yourself out no it's

98:57 not it's not like a like a damage vest for games it literally just goes along

99:01 with the music now that'd be weird it's like it's like it's supposed

99:06 to try and simulate the feeling you get when you're in a concert hall yeah where

99:09 like it actually shakes you it's supposed to try and replicate that Weir

99:13 I mean I've got an audio transducer on my seat right now that that shakes I

99:17 don't have it turned on right now cuz I don't want lonus vibrating my ass you guys understand but uh but I do have and

99:23 I do like the sensation of it it makes your I don't know it's weird it you can

99:28 feel the base so it kind of tricks you and it feels like you're hearing a

99:31 deeper bass it it does the effect works

99:34 it's it's believable if you put on a crappy pair of headphones it feels like you can hear deeper bass even though

99:39 it's just the vibration it's weird it's hard to explain but it's weird it works

99:43 all right speaking of a crappy pair of headphones NVIDIA Shield tablet doesn't

99:47 come with headphones at all so the original wor yeah the original poster on

99:52 the Forum was share and basically all I can say aside from

99:56 that I I do have one so I can't say anything about my experiences with it

99:59 this isn't a review but all I can say is what NVIDIA has said publicly so it's

100:03 going to have a Tegra K1 processor that's two or that's rather four 2.2 GHz

100:08 ARM cortex a15 cores it's got 2 gigs of

100:12 RAM it's got a Integra it's got a Kepler GPU with 192 cores this remember guys

100:17 this is the same the same technology scaled down as what you'll find in a

100:22 Titan which NVIDIA is very fond of telling people does that make it as

100:26 powerful as a Titan no does it burn your hands if you play any more than 15

100:30 minutes the rocket kit that we have on

100:33 the main floor has the same technology but scaled down of a spaceship yeah

100:37 that's true so so in much the same way as that but what it does mean is in

100:41 terms of API support it is able to do a

100:45 lot more than other mobile gaming chips

100:48 so in terms of in terms of effects and in terms of taking advantage of work

100:52 that in is already doing on the desktop like game works this is stuff that might

100:56 not be that significant today because you know the latest games let's say

101:00 Battlefield 4 you're not going to run that on this that's that's not happening

101:05 but the fact that NVIDIA is moving their desktop technology into this form factor

101:08 means a generation or two down the road you might be running Battlefield 4 on

101:12 NVIDIA Shield tablet 3 or something like

101:15 that because there's no reason that it's

101:18 not capable of being ported to it so that that's really cool that's what I

101:21 like about that it's got an 8 in 19 1820 X 1200 display it's got front-facing

101:25 stereo speakers with dual base reflex ports

101:29 it's got a mic it's got a 32 gig configuration that's available with LTE

101:34 or a 16 gig Wi-Fi only they sampled the 16 gig version so I won't be commenting

101:38 on LTE performance 5 megapixel camera it's got the new direct stylus 2 GPU

101:43 accelerated stylus it actually seems to work pretty well so far from just

101:46 dinking around with it and of course it supports game stream which is you know

101:50 gaming on your PC but on your tablet with now a bigger screen you can stream

101:55 to Twitch which is pretty cool natively so you can just like stream playing

101:59 Android games to Twitch on your tablet yeah um you can just use the built-in

102:04 camera right there go ahead and stream that baby to Twitch and then I think the

102:08 big thing here for me is The Shield controller so it it binds using Wi-Fi

102:13 Direct which is uh NVIDIA says very very low latency and you play games by

102:18 putting this on a stand and then playing the game on the controller that's cool I

102:22 like that I'd like to hear actually okay good because I was about to ask you Barnacles

102:27 do you have a shield portable I do have a shield I don't have that though oh

102:32 wait never mind right here I oh wait no that's an exus 7 never mind wait do no

102:37 do you have the handheld no I don't I didn't even know they had that what no

102:42 seriously I didn't I have a shield I don't I don't have that that's what he's talking about yeah yeah the original

102:47 Shield like no I have the original Shield yeah yeah good okay that's called

102:50 Shield portable now they

102:53 because tablets are not portable just

102:56 calm yourself okay okay so you have a shield portable

103:01 um so give me your give me your thoughts having the controller be a separate

103:07 piece from the screen does this still

103:10 make sense to you no I'd want it to be a separ a

103:14 separate part like if I had the option I would absolutely wanted to be a separate

103:19 part why because I want to use the damn thing

103:23 as a tablet when I want to use a tablet and I don't want a giant ass controller

103:26 in the way every time I try to use Twitter or Facebook with my old NVIDIA Shield it's like it's like I'm holding

103:32 an entire other object I'm not using and it it drives me nuts it is weird if you

103:36 try and use it for anything other than gaming at all movie watching but but I

103:42 think that they should be separate but have a way to be put together I think that separate controllers should have

103:46 like a dock on it that would be cool it

103:49 would be a little bit heavy cuz that was one of the first things things that I

103:53 kind of thought about and I was like yeah but would you okay so you have an

103:56 xs7 would you want an xs7 mounted to an Xbox 360 controller really well actually

104:01 yeah because I did at one point like 3D print a thing that held this on a 360

104:05 controller and I thought it was the coolest thing ever but then again not

104:08 actually using it anymore so maybe it wasn't the coolest thing

104:11 ever well we we did up a ghetto Shield as well and we thought it was the

104:15 coolest thing ever but then I don't think either of us ever ended up actually sitting and playing a game on

104:19 it so it's one of those things where like you know what a shield is good for

104:22 though I found a really cool use for a shield the parrot AR drone the little

104:26 quadricopter thing you fly that with the shield and watch in real time while

104:31 you're flying it you can like fly it around corners and stuff it's actually really cool yeah that's very

104:37 cool I think that's it do we have

104:41 anything else for today I think we've already run a little late um I had one

104:44 other thing that was in the uh scenix

104:48 yeah nah not really they're being Dell now accepts Bitcoin uh square nck is

104:53 being buttholes although they're perfectly within the their rights

104:56 legally to take down a fan translation for Final Fantasy type type zero still

105:01 but holes yeah it's just it's just one of those things where it's like yes they're within their rights yes I

105:05 totally get it because they are localizing it for the HD remake but it's

105:09 one of those things where it's like Square Enix are you in a position where you need to be making yourself less

105:13 popular with your fans there's if you play a game Dev Tycoon there's a point

105:17 in the game where you get an option and it's I don't remember exactly what it is

105:20 but it's like fans are trying to do something with your game or whatever and

105:24 do you throw lawyers at them or do you just let them do it and I don't remember

105:27 what the reward is but if you just let them do it you gain a whole bunch of

105:30 fans what is with companies like alienating fans like Nintendo seems to

105:35 be pretty hardcore about that now with the whole taking down videos on YouTube

105:38 and stuff like that Nintendo has they're starting to work with people they are

105:41 actually starting to maybe solve that problem but like in in square enix's

105:46 side like if they just backed them they

105:49 wouldn't even have to do it that much imagine the amount of press that they would have got for support a fan remake

105:54 and imagine the amount of like fans and support they would have got for doing

105:58 that compared to the other way around

106:01 well I think they're just used to having so many fans that will blindly buy the

106:04 next game that they don't even need it but that seems to be going away I know I

106:08 didn't say they were still in that position if anything I would say they

106:11 are they are not no any longer any at this point in time in that position

106:17 sentence yeah well that was for empasis but I put it on the wrong salab

106:24 sorry about that um yeah know there's nothing else I

106:29 really think should be brought up LG's doing good at selling phones and that sucks because they're evil um really

106:34 evil LG's evil well their privacy policy

106:39 is like not very enlightened like have you ever privacy

106:43 what is what is this I've never heard of this privacy thing what we live in

106:47 America we don't know what privacy is America America

106:52 American yeah fair enough I mean the reality of it is it's not like they're

106:56 the only ones doing it with the TV thing they're just the ones that made

107:00 headlines but they're doing it in a pretty brutal way I know I know I know

107:06 that doesn't change the fact that you're probably going to get an LG phone the reason why I haven't gotten it yet is

107:10 because I'm still conflicted oh yeah what what what phone

107:14 should I get now guys I'm thinking I'm thinking about selling this one

107:23 FU oh my gosh all right so uh I think

107:26 the last thing left then is Jerry tell everyone where to find you so that they

107:30 can go support you being on your own and being independent strong independent

107:35 woman like I'm officially poor people now guys so I need your support and I'm

107:39 over at the www.b nerd yeah the barn like where the

107:44 cows are nerd.com and that's where I'm

107:47 going to be living the rest of my life probably that's where he's going to make

107:50 C and C++ videos I'm going to make sharp

107:53 and maybe some CN C++ videos and if I'm really going to be masochistic I'll make

107:58 some batch file tutorials that would actually really cool I'd be done because

108:03 I think you guys would love how to make like little little destructive batch files that delete your Windows directory

108:07 and piss you off really really bad I'm just kidding I won't do that I would never do

108:12 that all right thanks guys for tuning in to the W show thanks to Our Guest

108:17 barnacles for joining us and his little friend down there and I think that

108:22 pretty much does it we'll see you again same bat Time same bat Channel next week

108:25 peace out bye

108:34 everyone dang it there