Linus Tech Tips Live Show Archive - November 23, 2012
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2013-05-07
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okay guys so I did say we were going to be 5 minutes late today and we were only
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5 minutes late today I'm pretty sure the audio is working I I hope the audio is
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working if the audio is not working I will actually cry like I will I will cry
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uh we're going to check the twitch chat to make sure the audio is working
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welcome everyone to the Live lonus tech tip show we are here for all of your
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enjoyment and of course our own enjoyment because slick loves nothing
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more after he has spent the day filming with me than
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to what yeah I didn't say all right it's
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flickering flicker on the screen I don't
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know our feed looks okay it's flickering
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whatever okay so we haven't had a chance to eat dinner yet tonight I hope you
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guys forgive us for being a little bit slow kind of getting into the show here
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because it has been hope kind of a rough day so I had a
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really cool meeting with the probably the most one of the most important
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people I've ever had a chance to meet this morning so I had to be at work
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early I had to wear a dress shirt
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which just about destroy no dress pants
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shiny shoes you we shoes I wore shoes I
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did not wear sandals to work today wow the funny thing too is I even wore my
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sand when AMD SS a group of six people I
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literally don't think I've ever seen including a VP I wore sandals I wore my
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sandals I was like guys I dressed up for you I wore a dress shirt today
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like what's the problem I can't remember oh yeah we're watching it just SEC just
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SEC oh for L what's the problem
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jeez okay we're good now right guys
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let's get that twitch chat going again cuz you guys you guys are you guys are
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fast to help us get that fixed all right yeah BR on yeah okay so the kind of
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things that we should have sort of you know done by now but okay to give you
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guys some idea what do you think the speed I averaged on the way back here from Richmond
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was no cops watching
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right uh I don't even know like just
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ridiculous so we made it all the way from the NC headquarters in Richmond
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sports mode in like 29 minutes to my
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house which is trust me not a good
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thing anyway so
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right sorry slick always has dinner he
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ate separately that time so guys don't worry about it
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uh right so my meeting today was with like the most important person ever who
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is like a like a global director of
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marketing for Samsung ssds or something
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like that like just like crazy crazy stuff so I wore shiny shoes I had like a
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shirt and like pants and a belt and like
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I did my hair today but you can't really tell anymore cuz it's just a total mess
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but uh yeah so that was really exciting spent like 2 and 1/2 hours in that
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meeting just you know marketing strategies and stuff for those of you
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watching the live stream who don't know I'm a product manager at NC so that's
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like my real job um I don't remember
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where I was going with this you were just talking about oh yeah it's been a
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long day I had to go in early right because when it's someone like that and
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they're making time like they he flew from Korea right right so he's like
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making time to like get on a plane from Korea and come here and come to our
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office office and talk to me so it's like if I won't go in like you know half
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an hour or an hour early to work then that's like the rudest thing ever so I'm
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like yeah yeah yeah no no no problem and then so I was at work at sort of 9:30ish
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today which means that by the time we're
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done this live stream it'll have been like a 13-hour workday which is sort of
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sweet um we filmed a really cool episode today though maybe slick can tell you
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about it while I try and take a couple bites of food uh we built a computer in
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the ft P3 mini and that's a pretty sick
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case actually Sil most Silverstone cases are pretty epic but for a small case
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this computer is really cool we fit um we fit a 670 in it and for its
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size if you like actually go and look at a picture of it for its size that's
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ridiculously impressive so that was a really fun build what else did we get in
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there what else did we get in there we did a lot of unboxings no I mean in the
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case in the case uh what's the name with
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that the we put the little ASUS ITX
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Deluxe board but I don't remember its actual name p77 I Deluxe I think I just ID Deluxe
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okay yeah the ASUS p8 z77 I Deluxe uh
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3570k although we could have used
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3770k we just had a 3570k um SSD of course uh crucial
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M4 load temps you guys were like uh what
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were they like for the CPU it was around 28 and idle was 28 yeah oh load temps
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load temps I think were around 50° yeah and then on the GPU it was like 70° like
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totally normal temps one fan in the system cuz we put a water cooling in
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water cooler in there well there was there was the air penetrator and then
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there was the fan that came with the water cooler M you didn't put the fan
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with no you're not supposed to oh okay there's no room for it okay you use the
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air penetrator at the bottom of the case and then even though it doesn't quite
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align with the radiator it's very directed air flow so it goes right through the radiator anyway like the
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case is designed that I thought it just was like basically stack f it wasn't
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who's asking if Rose will is a good case manufacturer on the twitch chat like
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come on guys Rose how is Rose will a manufacturer of
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anything is Rose will a good case manufacturer and why is the uh all
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messed up I don't I don't know what's going on here I'll have to fix that
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later um yeah Rosell doesn't make anything Rosell is new eggs like uh no
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name brand so it's like whatever OEM
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stuff and then they put Rosewell on
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it so there you go what else we filmed
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today uh like I said a lot of unboxings
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okay for NCI actives I don't really remember was it just the F3 I think that
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was it I think we were going to try and do uh h100 versus h100i versus we
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started that that's why we unboxed the h80i I think and then the thermal right
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and you're right the thermal silver Arrow uh what is it called Extreme M I
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think the yeah thermite Silver Arrow extreme which looks amazing the fans
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look a little weird but it looks it looks amazing what the color schem of
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those fans red and it was like red borderline pink and then for the like
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casing of the fan and then like bright fluorescent orange for the blades which
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is a little bit little bit out there little bit extreme I guess it's definitely extreme definitely extreme
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definitely extreme um and then I worked on a gaunlet node
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episode but we weren't done that had some problems with
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wireless not with the gauntlet wir excuse me
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no 7 H V2 that's not even aair someone
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says I know far too little about the business it seems I'm not sure what
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business he's talking about but it's been my entire job for
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like 5 years so I think I know
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something mhm okay my hand's quite a bit
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better I still can't close it I that's all I can do for trying to close my hand
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but it works now so that's
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good okay so why don't we do a couple Twitter questions we've got some pretty
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good discussion topics for tonight we're just like really hungry
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so
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sorry all right let's head over to
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Twitter let's see if this is going to work that GNA work yeah see that's not
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even the right why did we have it oh I remember okay remove for the videos yeah
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because the last time we used this we were doing like a totally totally
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totally different thing and it was uh not not Twitter and there we go so now
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we have Twitter and you guys can enjoy
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that with us and I my phone is going bananas like just absolutely bananas
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because of all the uh all the tweets that are that it is exper experiencing
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right now there we go all right so
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question number one from Paul F could you beat up slick do you think a slick
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could beat ASUS's JJ in a straight up
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fist fight I would like to hear Slick's take on this I don't really I've seen JJ
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like twice I don't I have no idea come on come on no think think think more in
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terms of like does he have the mental toughness think like a
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fighter I don't know him I don't know JJ
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I can't just say I'd be be able to beat some guy if I don't even know him I think he'd have the endurance he would I
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think he would have the endurance Advantage because you look at how long
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JJ can talk about the least interesting possible aspect of an isus
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motherboard like I swear like 45 minutes on like one F control
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feature I think you just have to keep hitting the guy he'd be like uh what was
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that fighter that would just let you hit him until you retired and then he'd knock you out I don't I I can't remember
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I can't remember his name but like that guy you think he's like that style of fighter I think he's that style of
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fighter because I think that like his enthusiasm level for like what he's
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doing like okay if he wasn't interested in the fight I think he could take you
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or I think you could take him but if he was like passionate about like like
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destroying you I think he would just like just I think he'd tank it might
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might take like an hour or three yeah like a three-hour fight like if it was
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done in rounds and there was like a time limit I think you could get him
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okay next next Twitter question for the night what are your thoughts on the
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hybrid fluid Dynamic VGA coolers honestly I don't think I've heard of
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those hybrid fluid Dynamic VGA coolers I haven't found any that I like what are
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they they're basically like talk at the camera though um okay I haven't seen one
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in a really long time but if I remember correctly they're kind of like h100 h80
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that like like Clos Loop water cooler style but it works for your VGA
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you can see why I'm not a hug oh yeah those are dumb yeah yeah those are those
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are really expensive and they perform
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better than obviously they perform better than an air cooler on a graphics
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card I mean the graphics card form factors like PCI cards were never
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intended to be like double triple wide and have like coolers on them it was
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never never supposed I'm just going to turn my phone off because the uh the
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tweets are driving me absolutely crazy there we go phone off um because
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something right they were never designed to have coolers in that kind of a sort
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of space like coolers are supposed to blow fan air toward something not like
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down at its surface and then sort of toward the back of it it doesn't make
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sense it doesn't work that way so um so
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yeah they'd obviously be better but you have a couple of drawbacks so number one
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is that tubing wise you have to have long tubing to get that that cooler to
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somewhere in your case that makes sense unless you have and it's pretty much
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always going like it's coming from the bottom of the
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gra yeah so it'll be like a total mess that way then I mean personally the
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graphics card isn't priority number one for me for water cooling so then you
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don't have room to mount your CPU radiator plus yeah they're just they're
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expensive they don't have wide compatibility they only work with one
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card ever usually for the pricing that I've seen I would much rather just do my
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own Loop yes that's what I've found so I
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don't really see them applicable that's why I've never really been interested and not really cared cuz in all
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situations your own Loop is awesome but sometimes it's not worth the cost then
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if you're going to spend the cost on something like that you might as well just which you're just going to throw
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away when you're done with it yeah when you can just buy a new block for a loop
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and then there you go like if you get a new graphics code all right moving along
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in our Twitter questions here let's see what else we got Wilson asks how do you
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pronounce ASUS all right so ASUS yeah
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ASUS ASUS as long as it's Seuss Seuss
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like Dr Seuss not like sus or not like
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Pegasus so a lot of people have made the argument to me on Twitter because I
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posted a video made by made byus uh
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where they it's like a really cute little thing where like two girls go up
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to like two guys at a at a bar and they're like hey do you want to see our
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asses we love asses something like that and then do you want to see them and the
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guys are like yeah and they pull out notebooks and they're ASUS notebooks and
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the guys are like Oh you mean ASUS and the girls are like oh yeah yeah so it's
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it's funny because it's ASUS's subtle way of telling people stop pronouncing
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the name of our company wrong just stop
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stop doing it and I had a bunch of people still arguing with me on Twitter
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No No it's it's as Asis Asis like
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Pegasus and because that's what it shortened from because the company used to be called Pegasus and and um you know
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you know it's funny almost all of those guys had like really cheeseball names to
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start with you know what DFI used to stand for I just always knew as a DFI
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okay well at the end it was designed for Innovation now it's uh or before before
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that it was Diamond flower International it's like who calls their
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computer component company Diamond flower makes no sense uh LG Life's good
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you know what that used to be right yeah you told me it was something yeah Lucky Gold Star
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it's like this is my lucky gold star washer and dryer smile and then you get
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like you know the uh the shine on the on the teeth it's like well no so um so
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yeah so so ASUS changed to something that sort of didn't sound like a
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unicorn what a pegasus is all right
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Linus and Slick weird question what are stylists made out of BC I can't use any
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heat touch items I use a head pointer to use gadgets I think he means like
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oh what are styluses made out of because I can't use any heat touch
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items I use a head pointer to use
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gadgets um okay well let's go with the part of
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that question that I think I can answer most styluses are made out of
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plastic there must be something different though because if you just press a piece of plastic against its
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stylus reactive screen it doesn't go off okay they must be made of something else
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you know what I don't know great
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question sorry we can't help you sorry yeah Kelvin asks lonus what do you think
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about WD red drives been reading some reviews and some people have DOA for
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those of you who don't know what that means it means Dead on Arrival also can
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you review Western digitals 4 terb black hard drive um my thoughts on my thoughts
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on WD red drives is that we got four of them and none of them were DOA um also
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doas don't necessarily indicate anything about the quality of the product they
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can just indicate that someone was unlucky um I mean look at it this way if
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you make a 100,000 of
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something and a hundred of them die you got a 100 dead drives out there
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that seems like a lot but in terms of the actual failure rate that would be
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like that's actually pretty good 0.1% yeah that's pretty good right so even if
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a thousand of them died that would be a 1% RMA
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rate but that means because remember satis customers whose hard drive is in
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their computer just working they're not going to say anything most likely would
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you go on a forum and talk about how your hard drive Works no I've gone on forums and talk
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about how certain parts have worked and how they've worked really well but not a hard drive not a hard drive definitely
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not okay cuz if you did that I'd have to smack you yeah yeah yeah okay yeah it's
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like guys cuz you know it's funny every once in a while like on the ncx Forum or
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like Hardware conu Forum or whatever else someone comes in and they're like
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never buy Seagate I bought three Seagate hard drives and two of them died and uh
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone come on a forum and say buy Seagate hard
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drives I have six and they're all
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alive no definitely not so guys you got to take every bit of information you get
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with a grain of salt it just doesn't work that way if someone's like myga
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video card died after 2 years and my waranty was only one year they screwed
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me it's like no that's bad luck it's
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really bad luck I mean if you'd registered your card you'd have gotten
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extra one year warranty anyway but it's bad luck you got a bad card it's not
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it's it doesn't mean EVGA cards are terrible in fact pretty much everyone's
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graphics cards are especially reference cards pretty much the same quality
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anyway so so yeah I mean I get a kick
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out of it when people are like you know why are hisis cards more expensive
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they're like oh they're better quality and I'm like okay not the reference
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cards they're pretty much the same for everybody although some cards
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lightning um classified like ones where
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they're really overbuilding the card those ones are
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better what else we got um someone's asking me to post on Twitter that I'm
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streaming at the moment but I can't imagine that it didn't go to Twitter
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when my YouTube video went live so I
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don't know if that's live yet yeah it looks like that's live there's a few people that have looked at it and uh
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almost oh that's funny look at this people don't even like me anymore this
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guy's like I almost tuned out when you said slick wouldn't be on cuz I was
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teasing them in the uh in the teaser and
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uh I said slick wasn't going to be there cuz he was going to get our food and and
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yeah apparently people don't even like me anymore whatever you guys I don't have
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to take this in how many years do you recommend upgrading Hardware why you
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feel this one I uh uh that's really
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subjective depends what Hardware you have Hardware we're talking about if
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it's a mechanical no I'm good actually okay if it's a mechanical
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keyboard never never if you're happy
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with it never uh if it's what about if it has Cheeto stains on it it has Cheeto
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stains on it you might want to clean it it's mechanical keyboard so you can take all key caps off that shouldn't really
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be a problem maybe stop eating so many Cheetos at your computer um yeah it
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really depends what you have what device it is uh when you're not satisfied
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anymore is your computer slow are you lagging in games are you below certain
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acceptable threshold of FPS um are you out of storage you might want to buy
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another hard drive uh or when something big and new comes along like ssds are
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getting well below a dollar per gig right now especially on Black Friday
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sales so if you don't have an SSD yet now might be a good time to buy that but
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as for like graphics cards or CPUs it really depends what you have to start
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with yeah good job slick you want find another question for us well that could
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lead us into uh one of our discussion
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topics you said that's fine I don't need to eat
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anyway okay fine I'll find a how much RAM do you really need for
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gaming not that much good question okay
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yeah well how much is not that much come on man eight gigs you can buy an 8 gig
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uh 8 gig kit for really really cheap just buy that and you'll be fine I saw
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them NC had eight gig kits for $1 199.99 yeah like ridiculously cheap just go
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with that you'll be fine for
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gaming tell us more about the Forum you're working on sure actually let's
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let's let's kick off our first discussion topic then fine okay so
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that'll be the for wait do you want to do the other one first the one that you said that was a good lead into no that's
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fine we can do the other one first it's okay no we'll go with his question you
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said you wanted to do the other well this guy we pronounced this guy's name wrong last time you're fired that's
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unfortunate for what is worth I warned you I told him I was going to fire him
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on the live stream tonight did he did uh we pronounced this guy's name wrong
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before he's I can't remember I'm trying to remember the Tweet he sent me one uh
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it's Greek or something so vag 93 is back
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yes but it's not vag it'll always be vad to me okay
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um so you know what guys I want to
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involve you in this part of the discussion he's got a pen and paper this
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is getting serious um no no I'm not writing anything down
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I'm actually writing down because I do those um here no I need to write down a
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Time 927 Forum well yeah I wrote something
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down but it's not because I'm writing down what they're saying so what I'm writing down is the
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uh the time codes that I put under the video on YouTube so instead of actually
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going through and watching the video because quite frankly he's very boring
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and I have a I have a hard time watching a show that has him on it also ugly I
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don't know what you people see um
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it just makes it a little bit easier for me to put those in at the end um so
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first of all uh the choice of V bulletin so I had quite a few people on Twitter
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ask me why V bulletin because it costs 250 bucks it um is not free like phbv
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and there's some other options as well so question answer number okay okay
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no what I want you guys filling in on the twitch chat and Twitter right now is
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what you guys want because there's a million Hardware forms like literally
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probably a million Hardware forums what do you guys think would set apart a lus
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tech tips forum and I'd love to take your feedback right now and maybe I will
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even write some of it down no no I'll write some of it down
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but we're both listening we're both here and between me and Slick
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99% of the work on the Forum and the conceptualization is going to be done um
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tell us what you want so why V bulletin V bulletin was chosen because I'm
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familiar with it so I don't have to learn which is great because I have to
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learn enough new things to do my job and it's tiresome um so I I don't have to
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learn wow that's a really big
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factor uh number two is with v bulletin
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5 they have a pretty cool content management system that's completely
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integrated into the forum so I want and you know reviews for example unboxings I
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want to have a couple little pictures a a little short article I want to have a
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way to drive traffic to this site where people can really engage in discussion
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beyond the YouTube comments YouTube comments are fine and dandy but let's
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face it for every sort of on YouTube in
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general for every well-intentioned coherent individual there's maybe 10
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morons and I think that my videos buck
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that Trend I think for every 10 coherent individuals there's maybe one but
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that doesn't change the fact that there's still that guy ruining it for everyone and YouTube is the ultimate
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mainstream platform where everyone has a everyone watches videos on YouTube
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absolutely everyone so I want to create a forum where we can weed out the one
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moreon and we can just have really good discussions about tech I also want it to
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be a noob friendly Forum I never ever
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want to see a link to let me Google that for you not once if I see a link to let
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me Google that for you I will ban you done because I want this to be somewhere
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where you can actually ask a question and get an answer and have people be
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respectful to each other so that's one problem that I have with a lot of the
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Old Guard forums so one that I particularly have taken issue with over
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the years is a super hardcore Enthusiast
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Forum based out of the states where basically anyone who goes there just
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gets treated like crap especially particular sections where people are not
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helpful they tell people to you know go read the stickies or go do this and I
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mean yeah people should read stickies but you can also be polite about
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explaining why stickies are there and why you should read them and all that kind of stuff you could Point them to
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the correct sticky for example so there's ways to be polite about it so um
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I don't know slick what's what do you think we can contribute that someone
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else doesn't already cuz you're he's a huge ocn guy yeah so what could we do
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that oen doesn't do for example um oen
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has its own community and I think from the live stream you guys talking in the
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live stream you guys talking in the comments you guys talking on our Twitter's you guys commenting on each
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other's posts on Twitter that happens a lot sometimes I don't even have answer a
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question because there's a couple guys that seem to go to my Twitter a lot and just answer questions for me which is
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kind of cool um yeah you want them to wipe your butt for you too what it's
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like look at this guy he's all like oh yeah I don't even have to reply to my own Twitter anymore no it's cool because
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they they like it's my viewer base knows what they're talking about they're so
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lazy what do I even pay you for um I think it would be cool to have
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somewhere for everyone to come together and talk about things amongst uh our
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community so I think that's pretty cool um I think it would be cool for everyone
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to show their own build logs and like we we should definitely have a build log
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section and you can be like oh like if you're new you can be like oh I got to
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this part of my build but I'm having problems with this and then instead of
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just being it being like build logs where it's just epic and baller that's
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awesome but I think the build log could also be a helpful section right it could
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be like look at this this is weird what am I doing why is it wrong how can I fix
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my cable management how can I fix my cable management is there any suggestions for how I have this laid out
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um is this water loop good how is this going blah blah blah blah blah it could
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be more of a helpful helpful space think that would be good I mean other things I
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think that we can do with a forum that are really difficult to do with Twitter
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and Facebook is we can take um we can take feedback on more complicated things
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a lot more easily yeah so definitely oh my goodness I get so many questions on
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Twitter that like if I answered it it would I would have to spam you like nine
26:54
times because 140 characters is just not enough so many of the times it's really
26:59
frustrating I get questions all the time where I'm just like this is not like
27:04
this is not the right medium for this question I can't do this properly right
27:07
now Twitter doesn't have adequate ways like for example I try to answer the
27:10
vast majority of my tweets and Twitter doesn't have good tools to show you like
27:14
hoot is a piece of garbage I don't even get me started on hoot what a horrible
27:19
piece of software considering the company's worth like millions and
27:22
millions now how are they worth millions of dollars they make one piece of
27:27
software for one social network that oh
27:30
anyway um so there's no way to track whether you've replied to something or
27:34
not if you're looking at it earlier in the can't find it again yes there's no
27:38
way to find stuff the search just doesn't work at all like you might as
27:43
well key in Google tweet about something and like try to remember something about
27:47
it because that's the best chance you have of finding that tweet
27:51
um so a forum would be a way for me to actually prioritize and keep track of
27:57
messages I mean uh YouTube YouTube private messages are another example of
28:00
this where I love to reply to YouTube private messages but honestly it's just
28:04
stupid and it's a waste of my time because of a couple things at least 30%
28:08
of people on YouTube have the uh uh
28:11
private message block enabled so unless you're on their contact list you can't
28:15
private message them so they'll message me and then I'll type out a reply for 10
28:19
minutes and then I'll click Send and they have it blocked and I'm like you
28:22
know what that's a waste of my time it just is and then the other thing is it
28:27
doesn't it doesn't um it doesn't archive
28:30
the previous parts of the conversation below your message I get so many private
28:34
messages on YouTube I might have to go back five pages to find the original
28:38
message you sent me and then figure out what I replied and then find your new
28:43
message just to figure out what you're even talking about because people will
28:46
be like um so so so they'll say something like oh lonus I'm shopping for
28:50
a monitor what's your suggestion and I'll send back this and then they'll say
28:54
oh well what about this meanwhile I have no idea what I suggested or what they
28:58
originally asked me or what it's for and it's just not helpful so a forum would
29:02
be a great thing for that any other sort
29:05
of off the top of your head before we get to some tweets um no I I like the
29:10
build log idea a lot of course everyone has build logs but I want to be more helpful based and I know a lot of people
29:14
have helpful kind of build logs but I just I don't know I think that would be cool and just bringing the community
29:19
together one place one yeah one place instead of having all like of course
29:23
these other different mediums will keep flowing but having a more permanent kind
29:27
of housing for everything would be really cool and just so you guys know I
29:31
don't have any intention at this time to put advertising on the for so just if
29:36
you're if you care about that it's not something that I'll be
29:40
trying to that I'll be trying to monetize in anyway oh wow 203 tweets
29:47
awesome uh in-depth tutorials that too
29:50
yeah yeah like like a lot of people ask
29:53
for the mineral oil guide mineral oil cooling guide and I still don't think
29:57
we'll do that but we could have a section on the Forum where people could
30:00
ask more specific questions instead of just the general how do I build a minor
30:04
computer cuz there's yeah I'm just not even going to get into it but if you had
30:07
like more specific questions or have any questions at all you could ask them
30:11
there and then I could like take my time and actually flush out answers that make
30:15
sense you know
30:21
what here's something I want to do a little bit differently from other guys
30:24
as well a lot of forms have up systems and
30:28
they'll have rankings for their users on the lineus tech tips Forum
30:33
rather than it being paced on how many posts or being based on sort of anything
30:39
honestly guys I think that every level
30:42
up in terms of your user status will be
30:45
yeah none of them will be it won't be a paid level up you can't pay for a level up you might be able to pay for you know
30:50
a custom avatar or something something something it does cost money to run a forum um but I think every level up will
30:56
actually be assigned by me you're slick and I don't know if I've talked to you
31:00
about this at all yet nope but what I want to do is I want to have rankings
31:05
for People based on really I mean we'll both be monitoring the form very
31:09
regularly so I want to have rankings that are based on are you contributing
31:13
how accurate as your advice I don't want someone on our Forum to have a tag that
31:18
says top contributor when that's just based on replying plus one or whatever
31:22
else I want it to be based on oh I saw
31:26
that guy make a really good reply to someone I go and check his post history
31:30
I make sure all the advice he's giving is accurate and awesome and all that
31:34
kind of stuff and then I can put like a
31:37
like a Linus approved advice sealed next to his post we should have individual
31:41
ones and yes lus approved slick approved uh diesel approved yeah so we can do
31:46
multiple tiers of rankings so that we can find a way to really differ no
31:50
matter how many posts you've made or haven't made really differentiate the
31:53
people who we see as top contributors right from the very start so you come in
31:57
you make 10 posts and they're awesome I would love to give you a better ranking
32:01
even though you haven't made a lot of posts you haven't been a member for a long time so that's another way where I
32:05
want to be really friendly to new members especially guys who are willing to be helpful we should we should we
32:10
should have that but I think there might also be room for like like seals like
32:14
those could be seals I don't know I think we should get viewer input from
32:18
this too but we could have like seals like
32:22
um no like the line of seal of Excellence or like the Slick seal of
32:26
Excellence or whatever start the league of lus the league of lus yeah LOL Yeah
32:32
well it's kind of already taken but whatever
32:36
man all right thank you for your commitment I
32:40
love your videos and Slick thank you is
32:43
slick ever G to have his own YouTube channel heaven forbid that guy's so ugly
32:48
so ugly I have to cover him up in the live stream look at this
32:51
guy slick L seems to make fun of you a
32:54
lot have you ever considered pimp slapping him it happen but rarely um
32:59
I'll be doing an unboxing of that microphone soon ASUS for
33:05
sure yeah you know what here's the thing about subreddit um subreddit will never
33:10
have direct control over we'll never be able to label our top contributors we'll
33:14
never be able to like no you you get like you get to be a mod of it and
33:18
whatever okay why am I driving traffic to their website no I know I'm just saying I'm just saying yeah um I cruise
33:23
around I'm not going to give it my username but I cruise around build a PC
33:26
and uh keepy boards and a bunch of other
33:30
uh Tech based subreddits that's pretty much all the subreddits that I follow
33:33
are Tech based subreddits but I I Cruiser own and I post again I'm not
33:36
going to say my name but yeah say my name say my name no one is
33:43
around I've never heard of a Vex
33:47
here my RAM choices are Kingston
33:52
corer I don't know mushkin gkill yeah
33:56
never heard of a vexer so sorry
34:01
H yeah that's probably a graphics card upgrade that'll help you the most no one
34:05
is talking are you guys
34:08
serious a Nick's missing the live stream because he's only on he's on
34:12
4G L plff Forum profit no we're not actually planning to profit from The
34:16
Forum but thank you I think he means profit as in like this is a good idea
34:19
not necessarily profit in financial ways oh I get it okay nice Team Liquid
34:24
sweatshirt slick thanks
34:28
if they're asking what is RAM just send those link to Wikipedia yeah don't that
34:33
well no one asks what RAM is though um okay so colors color schemes
34:39
use neutral colors on the background so text is easy to read okay that's
34:45
actually those are those are all that's all good input I'll look into that
34:48
Michael wants a test of knowledge to join a to to join the Forum Michael you
34:52
are automatically banned I think that was the point of making it Noob friendly
34:56
that there isn't a test of no there's no test we want everyone to be welcome at
34:59
the lus tech tips Forum except people who are sort of um what's it called
35:04
elitist
35:08
yeah acknowledging someone who knows a lot isn't a bad idea but just try I
35:13
think it's more trashing on people that we're trying to stay away
35:17
from you have to add a user rating system yep for
35:21
sure I will no we're not automatically Banning anyone who requests a build with
35:25
no input at all but what we will have is a stick saying what information we do
35:29
need and then we can refer them to that
35:32
um yeah we're definitely going to skin it um I don't know how much work we're
35:36
going to be able to put into the skin cuz like I said I'm not planning to make it ad monetized so we're not going to
35:41
have a lot of money to spend on like graphic design and I don't think slick
35:44
is very good I am probably ranking
35:47
within the worst artists that have ever been born onto this planet and I'm
35:51
probably going to be the one and we are one of us will probably be the ones that
35:55
make the skin so no diesel can help
35:58
diesel diesel can help diesel yeah diesel can help I I'll try and find a
36:02
template and hopefully diesel can help but in the early early build which I'm
36:06
hopefully going to be doing this weekend really hopefully W well there you go
36:11
that is what I pay him for um it's not as bad as I thought hopefully doing this
36:16
weekend uh I don't entirely know if it'll go live but it'll be running on my
36:20
computer in the very early build and once it's probably the first version that goes live will probably not look
36:25
insanely pretty but we'll work on it okay well malvin thinks V bulletin is
36:29
just fine I should devote a form just to stocking you um absolutely
36:35
not um building a PC versus NCI building
36:39
one or Hackintosh versus a Mac Pro build a Hackintosh don't like buy a Mac just
36:43
make sure the hardware is compatible as for building a PC versus having NCIX Do
36:47
It um it doesn't it doesn't matter um if
36:51
you're lazy then you can have NCIX build it the additional benefit is they'll do
36:54
a one-year warranty on the on the system itself it's honestly not that expensive
36:59
I don't I've got a buddy I've got a buddy that every computer that he gets
37:02
made like he definitely knows how to build computers but every computer that
37:05
he gets he uh he gets it built by ncx
37:10
because he's just way too lazy to build it himself um Michael get the h100i that
37:15
one's new newer okay so we're not actually seeing that much feedback about
37:20
the Forum let's go back up to the top let's see if some of these 121 new
37:25
interactions also if we have a forum I can post like the uh documentation for
37:29
my benchmarking oh yeah that' be kind of neat yeah so stuff that doesn't make it
37:33
into the videos um the actual spreadsheet so people can actually see
37:38
it stuff like that right so people can download it and manipulate it themselves
37:42
and whatnot so you don't just have to see a video version of it so that would
37:45
be kind of cool that was a good point that guy I didn't see the guy's name but
37:48
someone said that Jason asks when we uh when we plan
37:53
on launching and obviously soon okay so I think we spent enough time on this to
37:57
we can go back and have a look at some of these tweets after um any for you know what have a
38:04
look at some of your some of your topic suggestions for tonight let's do some more just general why don't we give the
38:09
twitch chat some love let's see what they want to know these guys go so fast
38:13
so I can never W there's a good suggestion see
38:17
let someone make a forum skin and make a contest out of it I mean the thing I
38:20
don't like about contests sometimes is just because someone always gets hurt
38:24
someone's feelings always get hurt no matter what someone's feelings are
38:28
always hurt
38:32
um it's like like if someone makes something for you no matter what it is
38:37
if you don't like it for whatever reason say like even if it's incompatible or if
38:41
there's like some weird reason that isn't necessarily that you don't like it
38:45
but you can't use it for some reason uh
38:48
it'll always hurt that person so making a contest um we only get to use one y
38:54
like it's not it's not like the Corsair keyboard video where we're like yeah we're going to give away five keyboards
38:58
except we're going to give away seven keyboards and like 35 versions of
39:02
Assassin's Creed cuz we're ridiculous um I don't know why is this
39:06
coming here why would this not be coming here not that it's not amazing I dropped
39:10
my T Virus though so I'm super not thrilled about that work I don't know
39:15
let's check so I had some no looks like it's okay so I had someone ask about the
39:19
status of my personal build so here it is um as you can plainly see there is no
39:26
status update so here's my virus here
39:29
put the T Virus down here's the
39:32
rig okay so basically I've actually un
39:37
progressed since last time I posted about it so you can see my 590 is
39:41
covered in drywall dust cuz it was in the yeah that's really not good like I
39:45
have no idea how I'm going to clean it now U my CPU socket is now empty cuz I
39:49
had to borrow the CPU for something and then my uh and then two of
39:54
my RAM sticks are gone because one of these one of my lus Edition RAM sticks
39:58
that was in my wife's computer died oh no way yeah I'm super not thrilled so
40:02
now I have five sticks take the spreaders off you can't trust me the
40:07
adhesive you'd bend them before you'd get them off and they're they're two pieces there's an outside piece and an
40:12
under like it's trust me it's not going to work talk to about that later I'll
40:15
help you you can oh okay I guarantee you I can get it off but you can I have some
40:20
other RAM I could put them on but um so yeah I took two of those out uh although
40:24
I've got my RAID card wired up correctly now and I've got a list in here of all
40:29
the additional things that I still need to uh to to do in terms of cutting
40:33
things and all that so really there's probably only about 8 hours of work left
40:37
in it but I've spent so much time on upgrading the uh the studio that I'm
40:41
putting in the garage that I just haven't had any time to spend on this so
40:48
yeah between that and the baby it's just really really tough want to find us
40:52
another Twitter question uh Twitter question or or twitch twitch someone say
40:58
something on Twitch it's not even in real time
41:03
they're like 10 seconds 15 seconds behind us
41:08
oh oh my God it's so quick I actually can't read one of them people say hi
41:14
slick chicken nuggets potato Starcraft 2
41:17
Cats slick do you even
41:20
lift show us your lifting here you
41:24
go can't do it can't do it the you can't
41:27
lift awesom T virus is too heavy too heavy it's it's the weight of how great
41:32
it is I know I just know I know um my first topic which I don't
41:38
think will take very long uh glossy versus Matte and why it's important
41:41
glossy versus Matte okay here we go hold on let me write this down okay we're
41:46
ready okay so I've been looking through Black Friday sales as long as uh I mean
41:52
the same as I bet a lot of you have I've been looking for a new monitor and I
41:56
just there's a couple really good options and a couple of the really good options are glossy and I just can't do
42:03
it I just I can't bring myself to buy a glossy monor okay we should clarify
42:06
glossy screen glossy bezel glossy bezel
42:09
glossy bezel okay I like Matt screen too
42:13
cuz you don't get glare problems but then I usually just black out blind my
42:16
room really yeah and then you get your bag of Cheetos I'm that guy you're that
42:22
guy I've blackout blinded most rooms that I've been in um where I am right
42:26
now now it's not as easy but I have curtains seriously I have curtains
42:31
blackout blinds blackout blinds oh my
42:34
goodness um my parents place is horrible
42:38
because there's there's a huge uh double
42:41
like sliding glass door behind me so you blackout blind I did not black out blind
42:46
it okay I black out blind my room I don't black out blind like like General
42:51
like so when slick moves out and has his own house I will black blind everything
42:56
it will be a dungeon I'm kidding I'm kidding I'll black up
42:59
blind where my computer but you'd put your computer in the basement if you had one yes so you'd be like so so you have
43:04
to have a nerd dungeon you'd be one step above living in your mom's basement I'd
43:08
be living in my own basement I definitely want like one of
43:12
my dreams for when I move out is like the best most epic nerd dungeon ever
43:19
like I want arcade machines arcade machines I want arcade maches you have
43:22
any idea how expensive those are they're quite a bit but you can make your own
43:25
yeah but I can tell you you can't afford to make your own because I know how much
43:28
I pay you this is I said this is when I move
43:31
out this is later on in life um but yeah
43:34
you're not going to work for me forever you can um I'll pay you
43:39
more sweet um you can make your own
43:42
fairly easily actually especially with a lot of the like ITX kind of hardware and
43:46
software you can get now yeah there's like M emulators and stuff right yeah that's not legit though you have to have
43:51
a legit pinball machine and like a legit like and like I would want those I would
43:55
really really want those but at the beginning I would probably kind of just
44:00
no that's just because if you settle then you'll never upgrade
44:03
it I don't know because you'd have to like you
44:08
don't want to find like the one that some dude has just had forever and
44:13
doesn't take care of it and just like uses it as like something to put his beer on
44:18
like you don't want that you want to go find the quality one no no you find a
44:21
black light you go over it it fits clean
44:26
it's okay but like I mean like dents all that kind
44:30
of stuff like I I would want one that's still in good condition you want one without dents well brutal where are you
44:35
going to find that brutal dance there's there's a you're a brutal dance there's
44:39
a like Museum kind of thing down in the states where okay so you're going to
44:43
steal from a museum no no um they help
44:46
you they help you find them look at this guy I didn't say I was going to steal
44:49
from a museum they help you find them steal from a museum steal Priceless
44:54
artifacts don't steal arcade machines but thinking small
45:00
here I'd much rather arcade machine than a I'm going to let you finish but
45:05
Beyonce had the best album how did we get you're trash how did we get here
45:10
from Matt versy trash your singing is trash compared to Beyonce I what I heard
45:15
you I heard you sing of course but it's I don't claim that I'm a good
45:21
singer how did we get here I think we
45:24
started with glossy versus Matt M monitor okay so let me put it this way I
45:30
mean I don't own a single glossy monitor
45:35
do I um my TV has a glossy bezel as you
45:38
can see however my TV was a wedding
45:42
present and as we discussed before there's no way to reject a wedding
45:46
present due to the screen's glossy I'm afraid I
45:52
cannot accept this 52-in television as
45:55
my wedding present it's just not going to happen yeah um so yeah pay attention
46:01
when you're buying monitors uh unless you just don't care but I would highly
46:04
suggest making sure that you get one with a matte pisel you know what a lot of people what like okay CU in theory
46:09
you should never touch it so why does it matter but it collects dust more easily
46:14
mhm it just generally looks dirty and you're going to move it from time to
46:18
time it's going to happen I think the biggest problem for me with glossy
46:21
surfaces is that unlike paint like paint
46:25
the glossier the more durable and the easier it is to clean but it's keep
46:30
going seems like with plastic the glossier it is the easier it is to
46:35
scratch up and Destroy yeah yeah it just looks like crap over time like you can
46:39
you can see uh what are they what are they even called idea pads think books
46:43
the IBM laptop yeah like super General one they're always think books something
46:48
yeah they're always like matte everywhere and even if they're super
46:51
super old like my grandma has one that she's had for a really long time she got
46:55
it with Windows 95 origin and it's like still a super I keep it
46:58
cuz that as a comp Port so I can plug it into like old things and manage them
47:02
anyways um it's all matte and is that
47:06
what you stole from the museum
47:10
no we got her a new computer and then she didn't want that one so she's going
47:14
to get rid of it so I took it so I can plug into things with the comport
47:17
anyways um it's it's matte everywhere and it still looks new except for the
47:21
fact that it's like thick but like all
47:24
the Plastics still look new because it's all matte and totally yeah yeah um well
47:31
like Blacky gray but yeah you know what a lot of people messag me about you know
47:37
those Cheapo Korean monitors on eBay yeah so you can get 2560 by 1440 like
47:43
IPS uh I think they're usually a minus
47:46
grade panels LG IPS a minus grade panels
47:51
lots of different monitors lots of different IDs for those of you who don't know ID refers to Industrial design so
47:56
it's like the design of the product what it looks like so I was looking at them yesterday
48:01
lots of options so they got ones with just DVI in they've got ones where you
48:05
can supposedly overclock the panel to faster than 60 htz no seriously I I
48:10
believe it I'm just surprised they've got ones where um they've got lots of
48:14
different inputs they've got like tons of different options not a single one of
48:18
them has a matte bezel yeah I was not
48:21
surprised I I expect I expected that and I'm not really that surprised I don't
48:25
know glossy just seems like the go-to and I have no idea cuz it looks good in
48:28
a store it looks good on display and there's a lot does not it gets dusty
48:33
instantly in a store the same way it does but they clean it every single night yeah in theory supp your magical
48:38
store like I'm just saying but
48:43
like I don't know looks good in pictures yeah it looks good in renders because
48:48
with pictures it's impossible not to catch the lights right exactly or like
48:51
edited photos but like it's it's more of a sales pitchy kind of thing not a I've
48:55
used this kind of thing before that had a glossy surface and I hated it kind of
48:59
thing here's what I want to know does it cost that much more to make a matte
49:03
bezel I I don't know when I first started seeing like when when glossy
49:08
started being really popular I was actually surprised because I assumed it
49:11
cost more it looks like it would cost more I don't know I have no idea I know
49:16
they have to put more protective crap on it in order to protect like seal it yeah
49:21
they always have to seal it so there's probably tooling involved in something
49:26
to do with that like some kind of D to cut out the plastic and but I mean
49:29
someone has to put it on yeah yeah I don't know I just well it's probably a
49:33
machine but like you're a
49:37
machine machine SMH and you're wearing green that's Hulk
49:42
not machine well I didn't say you were the Hulk you said machine smash yeah and
49:47
Hulk doesn't say machine smash no he doesn't but you're a machine not the
49:51
Hulk what's wrong with you think he the hul why does the machine have to be
49:54
green a bunch of people on YouTube tell him he's hul and now he thinks he's the
49:58
that wasn't the point why did you why did why does the machine have to be green your name isn't Bruce Banner I
50:03
wish I was Bruce Banner it's awesome except that I'd be
50:08
dead right now I'm glad you're not no remember from
50:12
Avengers he's always angry and can control it so you wouldn't be dead right now cuz you pay me but you've never
50:18
necessarily like helped before so maybe this would be the first time and you
50:22
wouldn't have control cuz you're still young right now he's younger than me
50:26
like a lot younger even though he's much larger 11 is not a
50:30
number on a previous stream someone asked me how old I was and I said 11 and
50:35
then someone thought I was actually 11 hold on I have a question for the twitch
50:39
chat we're going to Twitch chat right now twitch chat twitch chat tell me
50:45
something like this tell me if there's
50:48
anyone who actually prefers a glossy bezel come on
50:55
guys tell me what we we got who prefers a glossy
51:00
bezel yes I love phys no no no no no yes
51:04
I saw one yes I saw one I prefer glossy
51:07
people say largely that it doesn't matter twitch chat is just impossible to
51:12
follow how fast can't you put it on can't you put it on slow mode yeah but
51:16
people complain when I put it on slow mode this is the problem with having
51:19
2,000 people watching all right back to
51:23
Twitter because twitch chat is impossible I love you guys but it's
51:27
impossible oh this is interesting synapse 2.0 apparently got an update so
51:31
now when you lose the internet it goes into offline mode so you can still use your key bindings so what's your take on
51:37
on synapse now so synapse is Razor software that allows you to use the
51:41
cloud to back up all your preferences for your peripherals and stuff that's
51:45
I'm okay with it now that was that was my only real problem there we go if if
51:49
you fix my only real problem that's okay I I'm I'm surprised they overlooked it
51:55
but it that seemed like it was fixed pretty quickly okay so that's cool I'm
51:59
cool with that I have not seen the MSI EMP power RAM although I suspect it's
52:04
RAM just like all other RAM
52:08
um H Clinton says I have a $5 capture
52:12
card and a $90 one they both look the crap what do you suggest as an alternate
52:17
composite video capture card not HDMI
52:21
oh honestly I don't have many suggestions you can adapter off adap off
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of what HD want yeah but there'll have
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to be some kind of adapt like there'll have to be it'll have to be an active adapter well the live gamer HD can
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adapter off we were doing DVI and DVI we weren't doing HDMI and HDMI no no but
52:39
that's composite that's an analog signal yeah no no that won't work the
52:45
black magic intensity Pro does do composite but it's a $200 capture card
52:50
but it's a professional grade capture card and it's really volatile and it
52:53
well yeah and it causes blue screen it just like dies constantly
52:57
well no if you have it in the right motherboard it doesn't die constantly
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right if anyone's wondering why we have the kinds of technical difficulties we
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do it's like oh nothing ever works we
53:06
get pre-release stuff we get Niche stuff beta drivers beta drivers we're always
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running ridiculous things like state-of-the-art stuff that like thing a
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Works thing B works but thing a plus b
53:19
just explosion cuz usually if if if we have a video about it if it's on release
53:24
and we release the video on release we probably filmed it a really long time
53:28
ago when they were still like you couldn't download the drivers for it it
53:32
came on like some unlabeled disc where someone wrote with a marker like beta
53:36
driver and then what number like it's usually pretty pretty sketchy setup I
53:41
remember there was one motherboard where I was getting driver updates in my inbox
53:45
like every two days and I was like what is the point of me even starting to test
53:50
this platform if they're sending me new driver releases every 2 days that will
53:55
completely inval validate or not driver BIOS releases that will completely
53:59
invalidate everything I already ran why would I even bother to start on this and
54:03
that happened all the way up till about 3 days from release and I'm like what
54:07
about all the motherboards youve already built are they shipping with a BIOS
54:11
that's not good enough like I not naming
54:15
any names or anything but just you know a lot of you know you guys ask me a lot
54:18
of the time lonus why don't you ever recommend this brand or ever recommend
54:22
this thing assume there's a reason let's just put it that way
54:27
assume I know and assume there's a reason uh okay people could submit their
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own reviews that could be voted up in a database that would be kind of fun as a forum idea that' be cool because we
54:36
can't see everything y uh let's a good Sandy Bridge upgrade
54:40
you know what here let's go into let's go into another let's go to another topic why don't you uh why don't you get
54:45
a topic for us okay
54:50
um uh this actually builds into what you were just talking about brand favoritism
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ah yes um people ask why I suggest ducky
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keyboards a lot um so okay this one's not even necessarily brand favoritism
55:04
I've had quite a few people go like oh I see you suggest a lot of keyboards on Twitter why are they all duckies it's
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because 99% of the people that ask me for a keyboard on Twitter are asking for
55:13
a keyboard with backlights a mechanical keyboard with backlights so if you don't
55:18
want a very specific colored backlight um and it's mechanical key
55:23
like if you want a blue backlight there's three options yeah I think
55:27
that's pretty much it if you want a back white backlight there's two options and
55:31
if you want any other color there's one option so oh Cooler Master has some more
55:36
now as well actually Cooler Master does yeah I think they have some backlit ones quickfire something something there's
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one in the mail to us but it's shipped by USPS so it'll get here when it does
55:44
whenever it feels like it yeah yeah okay well that's cool but like the reason why
55:49
I suggest a lot of duckies is like in my
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opinion it's like ducky and filco or
55:55
like the legit like top tier keyboard that's
55:59
just completely utterly badass g710 plus
56:02
really really good I don't have enough usage with it yet personally because
56:06
I've typed on it for like 3 seconds okay it's a really decide okay I'll give you
56:10
that um but Logitech as far as actual
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like software goes is legit as hell way better than probably anyone else
56:17
Logitech could blast up there I I believe in Logitech because I'm going to
56:21
go get the g710 plus but you can okay here cover this tweet wait they come up
56:26
with one with Blue switches that's my whole thing I know I'm a blue switch guy
56:31
so for me to really really like something it's going to be Blue switches
56:35
what am I what am I doing for tweet no no that tweet that's up there right now
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in my email okay this tweet is
56:41
everything that's wrong with like PC enthusiasts so I got a tweet from
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someone I'm not going to name any names at Linus I really don't like apple if I
56:50
get an iPad iPhone iPod I whatever then
56:54
I would sell it directly because it is the worst OS ever with two RS and five
56:58
exclamation marks so let me put it this way cuz I was making I was making a
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point I'm not a fan of anything I'm not some kind of zealot um I have an iPhone
57:08
I chose the iPhone because it was the best choice at the time Android was
57:11
still in the gingerbread stage which was rubbish and the devices out there were
57:17
not very good so I got an iPhone 4 um
57:22
Android devices are way better now with stuff like the Galaxy S3 being the
57:25
singest phone ever and uh so yeah ever
57:30
right yeah I was just going to bring up that the uh Nexus 4 sold out just like
57:35
oh yeah Nexus 4 might you know come up on it but I mean S3 has been out for so
57:38
long oh yeah know I know I'm just saying like like Android selling Android in
57:41
general is selling like hot cakes right now so the point I was trying to make is
57:45
that iPhone is a great phone that's it it's not open for debate
57:50
they've sold millions and millions and millions and millions and there's lots
57:54
of happy happy happy happy custom just because it's not good for you cuz
57:58
someone was saying that it's the worst the worst OS ever really worse than
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Windows
58:09
me and now I'm just I'm I mean I'm just picking on Microsoft is it worse than
58:14
Windows 95 actually 95 is okay I should I'm not
58:18
going to pick on 95 was it worse than I mean I personally liked Vista but in
58:21
your mind it was it worse than Vista I I okay you see my point here
58:27
right yeah we we talked about this in the car and like you guys all know I fight for Android um and I will continue
58:31
to fight for Android but if my grandpa asked for a phone why would I suggest
58:36
Android that doesn't seem like a good idea that seems like a terrible idea I
58:39
want something that he can grab it and it will be set up immediately and he
58:43
won't have to do anything with it and he can just send emails and send text
58:47
messages and call people so the point is that if it's not great for you that
58:50
doesn't mean necess that doesn't mean it might not be great for someone else that doesn't mean it sucks yeah my mom my mom
58:55
has a non-smartphone Android and I wish
58:58
I would have just gotten her to get an iPhone because she constantly struggles
59:01
with it because like very simple cues
59:05
she doesn't really pick up on all the time um which like very simple to me um
59:11
but iPhone seems a lot more intuitive for her usage scenario so it depends
59:15
what usage scenario being for so it might be the worst OS ever to you ever
59:20
but it's not necessarily the worst OS ever to everyone else again in my
59:25
opinion for me especially and for I
59:28
think probably a vast majority of our viewers Android will probably suit you
59:33
better but that doesn't mean that iOS is inherently bad now like okay Apple Maps
59:38
is bad okay but but I have still manage to
59:42
avoid updating to iOS 6 so there bam right um okay so so fanboyism in general
59:49
is terrible and I just want to put it this way being a zealot of anything
59:53
makes you lame what have you got oh I'll just bring it out okay um but in cases
59:58
where it kind of makes sense is when um
60:02
they have like great support they're great warranty so you can like the brand
60:06
because of their how much they will help you but then if their product suck
60:11
that's not going to help so you should look at the individual products and then if you find two equals go with a brand
60:15
that you know has awesome support but that's not being a zealot like being a
60:19
zealot is supporting something that's just that we just know is bad I mean
60:24
something like okay H ly you know what anyone who bought an original Pentium 4
60:31
extreme Edition tune out now just tune out now stop watching go away I don't
60:35
want to talk to you anymore because it was an obviously inferior product I mean
60:41
you're probably a little bit too young for this aren't you I I was not crazy
60:45
into computer okay the Pentium 4 extreme Edition I think it was the 925 XE was
60:49
the first one I think I could be wrong
60:53
terrible product it ran so hard
60:56
and it was so slow compared to the FX
61:00
chip that it was up against which would have been the FX 51 or 53 or something
61:04
along those lines the FX AMD started this whole thousand desktop processor
61:09
thing and like guys you know if you think any you know if you're all like
61:13
blah blah blah you know AMD loves the consumer that's why they have $200
61:17
processor AMD has $200 processors because that's how much people will pay for their processors when they thought
61:21
they could get 1,000 bucks for a chip they were all over that like white on
61:25
rice they were they started this whole
61:28
extreme Edition thing that Intel continues to do so it was a just
61:33
horrible product compared to what what else was out there people bought it I
61:38
know that people bought it so that to me is being a zealot
61:43
because AMD and Intel both have a long track record of good reliability blah
61:46
blah blah blah blah all that good stuff except we knew that they cost the same
61:51
and we knew that the extreme Edition was dramatically slower
61:56
and otherwise equal in every possible way o it had hyperthreading but it was
62:01
still slower so it doesn't matter yeah like that's that's what I
62:05
mean though but like like uh I don't
62:08
know he let's talk video cards maybe like 9800 it's just reskinned which
62:13
one's that 9800 yeah but that doesn't have to do with brand favoritism but
62:17
that's like it was a reskin and a lot of people yeah I guess that's not really
62:21
brand no no no see why do I even invite him to these things just so that you
62:25
guys can like look at him but a lot of people would upgrade to it just because
62:29
they believed like see that much it's new from it's I knew a lot of people
62:33
that didn't really yeah oh but they're like oh it's new I have an 8800 GTX my
62:38
8800 GTX is good and it's NVIDIA so NVIDIA came up with something new that
62:42
means it's obviously awesome I should upgrade okay well okay okay so I see
62:46
what you mean so blind faith and brand blind blind upgrading when you actually
62:50
don't need it because you have that Blind Faith and that zetis so that's
62:54
almost like apple zombie syndrome yeah
62:57
yeah oh my God new iPad I have no idea what just happened but I'm going to buy
63:00
one see that's another thing guys like you guys give me a really hard time for
63:04
owning an iPhone I don't own an iPhone 5
63:07
I don't own a 4S I didn't own a 3Gs and
63:11
I didn't own whatever what came before that wasn't it just three 3G I didn't
63:15
own a 3G and I didn't own an iPhone I have owned one iPhone ever because my
63:21
company said we're getting you a phone what do you want so I picked this that
63:25
was it I I have actually only spent money on an Apple product once in my
63:29
life and it was when I dropped my keys on my iPad and I cracked the screen and
63:35
it was I think it was $200 to get a brand new iPad from the store because it
63:39
was under warranty or something so I didn't even buy my iPad I just replaced
63:44
it when it was broken so that was the that was the only time so so guys I
63:48
don't oh yeah here's another one um has anyone ever told minus that you look
63:53
like Eminem I actually get that a and I don't see it do you see it no doesn't
63:59
Eminem No No Yeah see guys no I I get it
64:04
a lot though white guy with blonde hair is that like is that what they're seeing
64:08
well I dyed my hair blonde once but it's like blondish is is it is I don't think
64:13
his is straight blonde I don't really know I don't yeah
64:17
whatever I don't really see it I don't know okay uh you know what this is this
64:22
is a question that's going to lead us into another discussion topic so
64:26
discussion topic for right now
64:30
is stop asking me what is the best
64:36
monitor stop asking me what is the best case stop asking me what is the best
64:41
Mouse stop asking me what is the best keyboard I could go on for a while if
64:46
it's something that's subjective I cannot tell you you can ask me I mean
64:51
even I I sent out this tweet earlier and I had a lot of people Tweet back at me
64:56
and go well lonus what they really mean to ask you is what are you using to
64:59
which I would reply it's probably not relevant because what I'm using for
65:03
example for my monitor is a 305t plus from Samsung you can't buy it it's
65:09
discontinued so what am I going to do I'm not going to recommend it because
65:13
you can't buy it in fact same thing goes for my mouse people ask me oh what's the
65:16
best Mouse and I'll say this and this and they'll say oh well what most do you
65:20
use and I say well I use an aari laser good luck trying to buy one because
65:23
they're dead now well they're not dead they still work they're hard to find but
65:27
you can't find them anymore so um if you
65:32
want to ask a question like what is the best monitor ask me a question like what
65:38
is the best monitor for gaming refresh
65:41
rate is most important to me or color is most important to me because what
65:45
happens is I end up asking having to ask probing questions and what happens on
65:49
Twitter if I have to ask you so if you send me so here let's simulate this ask
65:53
me a question what is the best key keboard what is your keyboard
65:58
for gaming do you need macro keys or not
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no do you type a lot yes okay go with a dash keyboard what
66:10
switches they both have blues oh okay but don't be a smart guy the blue one
66:17
calm down so my point is I don't see
66:21
every tweet if we have to go back and forth four times you're never going to
66:24
get an answer so don't ask me lonus can you configure a PC for me you know what
66:29
go on nci.com go to buy a PC and then
66:32
find a computer and then say lonus is this a good computer or what would you
66:36
change and then I can send you a summary and Slick can do the same thing he's
66:40
super technical too what would you change we'll go oh well you know
66:44
downgrade this upgrade this you can hit approximately that same price point get
66:47
10% better performance but if you're just like lonus I'm not willing to put
66:50
the work into it uh what should I get for custom water cooling I'm going to
66:54
say look man this is Twitter I have 140 characters to tell you a full custom
66:58
water cooling loop I don't know what case you have I don't know what CPU
67:01
socket you're using I don't know what graphics card you have I don't know if you even want to water cool your
67:05
graphics I don't know what your budget is like we want to help you but it's a
67:10
lot better if you give us like like these are very specifically what I want
67:15
or um like these two things okay saying
67:19
I want a great gaming keyboard with blue backlight like that helps we can help
67:24
you that helps a lot but if it's like like what's the best keyboard it's it's
67:28
way too General what's the best keyboard I don't know well you tell me what do
67:33
you use I well okay I use a non-backlit
67:36
ducky with blue well that one has a wire I don't like wires I want
67:42
Wireless
67:45
stop do mechanical switches inherently use more power why don't we have any
67:50
Wireless mechanical keyboards cuz wireless keyboards are okay the whole
67:54
like mindset of having mechanical keyboard goes against the like latency
67:58
issues that are inherited by a wired by a wireless they have very low latency
68:04
Wireless um you could like you can
68:08
yourself make using like Wireless dongles and whatnot you could make
68:13
a yeah but then you'd end up with like the okay people want Wireless because
68:18
they want something elegant not cuz they want some Franken keyboard all left like
68:22
wires coming out of it here and like screws
68:26
like random USB dongle just like shooting out of the back yeah that's still a wire just saying no I mean like
68:32
the the stick just the stick you can don't worry about it
68:36
um it's just like uber low latency uh en
68:40
key rollover like all this kind of stuff is the whole mindset of mechanical so
68:44
why would you go Wireless you're not why would you have a mechanical keyboard for
68:48
your like media PC well yeah but I don't maybe I just don't like uh maybe I want
68:52
to have a great typing experience and I don't want why wires there's something
68:56
wrong with that I don't know I just the Market's not there is my guess I would
69:00
have thought the market there might also be another reason but I'm not entirely sure I would have thought the market
69:04
wasn't there for mechanical keyboards in general but we've got at least like
69:07
three or four like there entire forum is dedicated to it well yeah exactly but
69:12
it's still a niche thing comparatively speaking compared to membran keyboards
69:16
like membran keyboards it's totally Niche yeah yeah it's becoming more
69:19
popular though logitech's embraced it yeah someone must have a wireless
69:23
keyboard at some point like mechanical keyboard some point so anyway test is
69:26
not going to be applicable some of this came from uh some of this came from a
69:30
tweet that I got that was oh yeah another thing guys is if you've already
69:34
Googled it and you already can't find it
69:38
like the odds are excellent that if you Google like you know 120 HZ monitor with
69:43
great viewing angles and you couldn't find anything like that the odds are
69:48
excellent It's because it doesn't exist and tweeting me about it actually won't
69:51
help so I had someone tweet me do you know a 120 HZ monitor with great viewing
69:56
angles or or at least better than average and the answer is no because 120
70:00
HZ monitors are all using TN panels they're using TN panels that are
70:05
overclocked like Mad in order to get the
70:08
pixels to switch fast enough between color and a and color B in order to keep
70:13
up with that 120 HZ refresh rate TN monitors have rubbish viewing
70:19
angles rubbish color reproduction and
70:22
rubbish color depth that's just all there is to it
70:26
however they are much much faster than
70:29
VA IPS or PLS panels which is good for
70:33
gaming however I personally prefer my
70:37
305t Plus for gaming it's a VA panel
70:40
it's slow as heck I can see the motion blur but it doesn't bother me that much
70:44
input leg is very discernible if I have anti-aliasing on so I keep it off I like
70:49
the high resolution the deep colors and the accurate colors that enhances my
70:53
gaming experience so you might go okay lonus I'm not going to ask you what's
70:56
the best monitor but I'll ask you what's the best gaming monitor to which I would
71:00
go I don't know man you want resolution you want color accuracy you want color
71:04
depth you want speed I don't know you want 3D these are all again this brings
71:08
up the Forum thing again these are all a lot better A lot better questions for a
71:12
forum we we can't we don't have the typing space to deal with it in Twitter
71:17
I think that's more what he's complaining about you know what we need in the Forum we need like a section with
71:22
like slicks picks yeah and like Linus's
71:26
um I don't know there's nothing that catchy Slick's pick is way better
71:32
although it sounds like it sounds like um you know like the nose and the Slick
71:38
p i don't oh my goodness no double meaning slicks picks where I try to take
71:43
pictures of you picking your nose so it's picks of his pics and they're
71:48
slicks wow wow
71:52
wow no that shouldn't be an entire form
71:55
section no I don't think so okay then let's go back to uh let's go back
72:00
to more topics that I had sort of
72:04
uh oh yeah here okay riddle me this why
72:08
do people buy phones without a
72:11
contract um this tweets point is iPhone
72:15
is no no don't worry about that one this one just that yeah why why would you buy
72:21
a phone without a contract riddle me this like phones are like $600 it's a
72:24
lot of money uh I think you're already on a contract so you just switch what phone you're
72:28
using okay so like if someone had why
72:31
are you switching your phone because you want a new one I wouldn't I'm just
72:37
trying I'm playing Devil's Advocate I'm trying to fight for the guys that do like I've got a friend at school that
72:40
really really wanted the Nexus 4 I don't know what he has right now but he really
72:45
really wanted a Nexus 4 so he was waiting to buy a Nexus 4 online he
72:49
already has a contract he just wanted a new phone you and me aren't I like I
72:53
like Android and I play around my Android but I'm definitely not as crazy
72:57
as um well one of my friends other than that I'm pretty much the craziest in our
73:01
group but like some of the guys that um follow me on Twitter have commented on
73:04
stuff that's a little bit over my head and I've looked it up and figured it out but yeah but like if you're a phone
73:10
Advocate it might be worth for you to buy a new
73:13
phone you're just buying a new piece of technology okay I'm sure they know it's
73:18
not but the but the release Cycles on them are so
73:22
fast that's true but like if you if you
73:25
have the money to spend and that's what you're really into then why not I would make the argument that any phone from
73:30
the last couple years is a phone already
73:33
and does pretty much anything that you could possibly
73:36
need okay tell me what you can do with your NEX or whatever that thing is
73:41
Galaxy S3 that you couldn't do with your Nexus S A lot of the games a lot of the
73:45
games on my Nexus S would like emulators emulators would like some of the higher
73:49
end emulators would like okay um this is
73:53
just generally faster okay which it has a way nicer even
73:58
though I had Jelly Bean on my Nexus S this one's Jelly Bean due to its
74:02
Hardware advancements is a lot snappier a lot faster and a lot more
74:06
fluid and I can go from like playing a game I can be in the middle of playing a
74:10
game and just like tap home button and
74:13
just send an email and jump back into the game on my next assess would be like
74:16
tap home button oh God the game has to like decide that it's quitting now okay
74:22
see this is yet another like iOS thing I'm kind of spoiled I don't have that
74:27
you don't have what like there's no there's no lag I can exit a game and
74:30
then go do something else and go back into yeah but I'm talking about pretty
74:33
intense games not Angry Birds what's an intense game on a phone though they have
74:38
higher end games like like that blade one or
74:42
whatever Infinity Blade I don't know Infinity Blade supposed to have good
74:46
that was a long time ago the only games I have on my phone are from Humble Bundle oh okay okay well fine you've
74:52
made your point okay I kind of understand I mean it's it's been a long
74:55
time it's just not really your thing yes phones are not my thing yeah so like you
75:00
you can't hate on someone for enjoying something really I suppose best case
75:05
best no no this is related to the same thing oh oh oh okay you know what let's
75:10
do a little bit of uh Twitter Q&A because we've really abandoned the poor
75:14
the poor peeps on Twitter tonight 320
75:17
new interactions all right here we go
75:20
all right I was wondering if you could suggest a good gaming keyboard with macro keys I also type a lot so it need
75:24
to be good for typing uh you know what actually g710 plus would be a great
75:28
choice there yeah actually bam okay here
75:31
spend some time with the g710 plus I'll do Twitter questions for a bit see what
75:34
you think cuz the build quality like feels I saw it for a little bit pretty
75:39
pretty solid to me all right 27 in monitor with 2 to 3 millisecond response
75:43
time don't care about the Hertz and a matte desle under $400 what would you
75:46
recommend you know what Ian that's you've got such a good idea of what you
75:50
want you might as well just type that all into Google and find it however 2 to 3 millisecond response time is totally
75:54
unre realistic so this is where you're asking me for something that actually
75:57
doesn't probably exist um wow A lot of people are asking
76:02
me to unbox the Razer uroos so I should probably do something
76:08
about that I haven't actually um can I can I email this to
76:13
myself I don't know in who tweet I can email myself a tweet to remind me but I
76:17
will try to remember to deal with that because a lot of people have asked me
76:20
for that and now I've lost where we were
76:25
what have you done slick I didn't do anything D okay here we go we're
76:29
typically at around one gig for most modern games however more gigs is only
76:32
really useful for higher res or many displays uh Nick that has not been my
76:36
experience I've seen games use more than a gig of RAM um a contract with an S3
76:41
for 24 months will cost around 1K but buy the phone for 400 and a 7even 12mth
76:45
contract is a better deal okay s um you
76:49
live in the UK obviously and it might be different there but here trust me it is
76:54
a way better deal to just get the phone with a contract um especially because
76:58
you have to get a service plan anyway I know that wireless is really cheap in
77:03
the UK but here it's totally different because Canada is really big and to a
77:08
lesser extent the US is quite big as well compared to the UK in the UK you
77:11
put up like what three cell towers and you have deployed the latest high-speed
77:15
technology whereas uh the carriers in Canada have to I mean how many towers do
77:21
you think they have to put up compared to like oh it's ridiculous and then they don't even they get like um a lot of
77:26
carriers in Canada base their coverage off of population coverage not land
77:30
coverage did you know that yeah I know that because all they'll cover is like
77:35
like in BC they'll cover like Vancouver and Victoria Island and then like a
77:38
little bit of Colona and stuff and then they like don't go up from there
77:41
seriously look at look at I've seen the Rogers map cuz it's just like the top is
77:45
like empty yeah it's empty and then it's like it like Scoops up a little bit on
77:49
the west coast and then kind of goes like and then jumps a bit when it gets
77:53
to Ontario that's about it right so like you're not really getting all of Canada
77:57
coverage so yeah here the the plans are actually super expensive like my cell
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phone's about $100 a month because I have to place some calls to the US so I
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need I need a couple more advanced features for business uh Nick Carter
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asks is it possible to find this yes it is eBay has them
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ebay.com go there search for 2560 time
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1440 what is the best fan setup for the Corsair obsidian if I don't use the
78:21
bottom fan Mount going to use an h100i in the top mounts just use knock to a F
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series for everything and it will always be the best actually I don't remember if
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the C70 has 140 mil fans you know what best fan setup is
78:33
always easy find good fans put them in your case don't worry too much about it
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beyond that yeah oh oh Linus I've read a
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lot that you need 2 millisecond response time monitors for to game what Max
78:45
response time do you think is needed for gaming anyone who tells you you need a 2
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millisecond response time for gaming is an idiot because it doesn't exist there
78:54
there's no such thing as a monitor with 2 millisecond response time that doesn't
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exhibit motion blur which is exactly what the response time means response
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time is it's rated in either gray to gray or whatever the other one is and it
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means how quickly the pixels can change color pixels are not fast they are slow
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they are so slow compared to CRT compared to DLP and projection uh or in
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projectors compared to plasma LCD pixels are slow so any monitor that is rated at
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2 milliseconds you know right off the bat they are lying because none of them
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are that fast what's more important than the response time of the panel because
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there's only like a half a dozen maybe I don't know how many panel manufacturers
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are left there's LG Phillips there's Samsung I think auo still manufactures
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some but there's only a few guys left actually manufacturing LCD panels so
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it's all the same stuff so it's not like one of them is like way faster than
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something else because of like magic
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um so yeah so anyone who tells you 2
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milliseconds is lying also the electronics of the monitor are in some
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ways way more important than the actual response time of the screen since you
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know that that's going to be pretty much the same so I have a monitor that has
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such bad input leg so input leg how long
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it takes between the Monitor receiving the signal and actually sending that to
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the pixels before they change so I'll go like this it's
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like when I move the mouse like it's just terrible it's an older monitor none
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of the new stuff's that bad mostly you just see like motion blur on VA panels
80:29
but um where was I going with this if you must have the fastest possible
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monitors get a 120 HZ panel benq's 2420t
80:37
is excellent um ASUS's VG series I think is it VG VH something whatever they
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their 120 HZ and 144 HZ panels are as
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good as you're going to get the colors are terrible the viewing angles are terrible don't ask me if it's the best
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monitor because it's not but it is the
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fastest and like okay it still matters if you're ridiculously hardcore but the
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2ms thing is kind of a sham just try and go for one that's good quality like he
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was talking about Christi I'm ready to talk about this one okay Christian says
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he buys off contract for his phones can get a better plan that is cheaper in the
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long run okay again depends how it works where you're from uh in Canada you do
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not get a cheaper plan for having your own phone no but this is educational for
81:19
me now I understand why people do it because here in Canada makes yeah people
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still do it here though yeah that I don't understand um I bought a phone case cuz
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my old one
81:31
broke ah slicks picks and Linus's finest
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that's not bad for our for our like top uh our top choices pretty good why
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hasn't Cricket caught on in
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Canada um well the socks are an
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issue it's a very European game yeah I
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know they wear those socks here and I think the a lot of sports are influenced
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from like a really long time ago and I think the whole America and Canada
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trying to separate themselves from the
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European grouping of countries um might
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Ser that away look at this guy look at
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him I don't think that's why people don't want to play it
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here are you sure that's not why people don't want to play it I
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look at him I mean here it doesn't get any
82:28
better look at these guys so look at uh look at curling c
82:35
yeah but curling curling is inexplicable too but it's huge in Canada old people
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play it it's like golf where like old people can still do it so maybe that's
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why it's
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popular I mean look at these guys these guys are probably like super famous and
82:52
awesome look how badass this guy looks look at that look on his face and this
82:55
guy's a dream boat but come on they got
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like stars on their uniform and stuff okay okay I mean it's not getting
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any better for this
83:09
game okay we get this kid's pretty cool
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okay fine we're not going to pick on Cricket anymore I'm done I'm done and
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I'm sorry I'm sorry uh you know what I think it's just a cultural thing I mean
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hockey is Canada sport it's like you
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watch your dad watches it's like why isn't oh boy this is going to get ugly
83:28
but like why isn't Christianity popular in the Middle East because your dad
83:33
didn't believe in Jesus so they never told you about it and that's just it's
83:38
it's cultural everything is cultural why isn't Curry popular in Great
83:45
Britain because that's not what you grew up eating so I grew up watching hockey
83:50
my dad watched hockey there's hockey night in Canada it's just built into the
83:54
fabricc of your culture all it is I'm sure that has a lot to do that has a lot
83:58
to do with it why is badminton not popular in North America fantastic sport
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fast-paced super athletic entertaining
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to watch tons of fun to play but everyone in North America thinks badmon
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is this plink plink plink badminton is
84:14
not that badminton is 300 plus kilometer per hour smashes but I I I i' played
84:20
tennis and I thought badminton I thought it was more than I think most
84:24
people from where I grew up thought it was but then after seeing him play it's
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actually pretty freaking ridiculous after I still remember playing myself I
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still remember what you said to me the first cuz I had to it was a late filming
84:36
night and I took slick with me to uh to
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cuz I was like I I want to go play badminton tonight do you want to just like nap on the couch there's a couch
84:43
there and uh he he said something along
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the lines of like holy crap you're really fast yeah yeah I did not expect
84:50
him to be that fast at all he did not know the game was fast though you have
84:54
to be fast but it doesn't it hasn't caught on and I yeah I don't I don't
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know yeah Slick's pick sounds like nude picks of slick you know what we could
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add that to the Forum might drive traffic yeah it might drive traffic okay
85:06
guys if you would come to our Forum to see new picks of him then go
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away cuz he's really not that goodlooking let's cover him up
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again nude P of
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snake I have two GTX 560s and I would
85:24
yes your power supply is fine what does gosu mean uh I believe Pro in Korean Pro
85:30
in Korean it's from Star it's from handsome I think it's called handsome
85:34
gamer.com the big Starcraft Caster has a site where he sells shirts and they all
85:39
reference Starcraft and you'll say G Su in Starcraft some's really good you
85:44
don't care just keep going I like it though it's cool do you
85:48
feel the Nostalgia of the days you wanted a Motorola Razor so badly
85:52
actually I don't I've never been a phone guy I've owned like five phones in my
85:56
life over a span of like 10 years so that should give you guys some idea what
85:59
my upgrade cycle is and it was always whatever was free with a contract or
86:03
whatever like work offered me the only reason why I ever got a phone in the
86:07
first place was so that I could get on the cheapest phone with the cheapest
86:11
plan that offered unlimited texting so that my girlfriend could text me that
86:16
was the only reason I got I got it so that she could talk to me I've never
86:20
bought a phone I just realized that my
86:23
mom bought me my first phone because it was like this cool Motorola thing it was
86:27
called the vbox or something like that it had a full keyboard it was the first
86:31
like cell phone like mainstream cell phone it was $200 with a plan that had a
86:34
full keyboard then that one broke so I got a warranty replacement of something
86:38
else and then that one died so I used someone else's old phone and then I got
86:43
my job at NC and they issued me a Blackberry and then that one got to be
86:48
like three and a half years old and I was up for Renewal so then I got an
86:52
iPhone with my plan and it was provided by work I've never bought a
86:57
phone there you go I just realized that
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learned something every day well I didn't learn it but I realized it sort
87:04
of the same thing oh my
87:08
goodness it is not a 130 HZ monitor some
87:12
people have managed to overclock the early ones that's done
87:16
now um in Soviet Russia Google Linus is
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you okay thank you Peter
87:24
I have a level 10 GT wanted to know if I can keep my fan LEDs the same color at
87:28
boot I have no idea I also don't know why that would
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matter Linus's links isn't
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bad uh so you mean to say that you have to sacrifice qualities for high frame
87:40
rates with 120 HZ monitor yes yes you do
87:44
the only way to get high frame rates great color and um yeah High frame rates
87:51
are like Fast frequencies great color
87:54
and like great brightness and all that stuff is to have you know a 60 pound
88:00
CRT I kind of wish someone still made like like a 24in widescreen CRT that'd
88:06
be kind of awesome I wonder what the shipping costs on those are nowadays
88:10
well I mean it was always that was always a huge part of why CRTs were
88:14
expensive no I know I'm just saying like like your pricing for that would to be
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incredible yeah it would have to be just like horrible compared and the volumes
88:22
would be so low yeah cuz nobody wants a CRT I mean some people do but they're
88:26
very Niche uh okay we've got like I thought I
88:32
thought I saw someone say something about tedious oh no I thought someone said our
88:37
conversation was tedious if you guys don't like the conversation I'm very
88:40
sorry um moderators from forums will be
88:44
individually selected based on contribution in the Forum that much is
88:49
set in stone at this point in time what you got for a topic um we've got a
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couple things probably CF oh yeah so guys uh we mentioned a little
88:57
while back that we're going to be at CES so he and I and Diesel's coming too now
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yay um are going to be at CES this year we are going to be doing all kinds of
89:06
cool stuff we want to know what's your priority so the goal is to provide the
89:11
most complete content possible so we want to do video then we want to have
89:15
pictures to go along with a little written article that has the video embedd in it we want you guys to have
89:20
the CES experience that you would have if you got to go which you don't because
89:25
you don't have an industry affiliation unless you do in which case maybe I'll
89:28
see you there so what's the most important to you guys cuz there's a lot
89:32
of aspects number one is there's the show floor itself where you're going to
89:36
have a lot of iPhone accessories like serious business like a
89:41
third of the booths will be like iPhone crap then there'll be like the Intel
89:46
thing which will be like this huge thing and probably its own dedicated video or
89:50
multiple videos and then in between that you've got guys like um you know uh
89:56
shuttle for example where they're like it cool it components showing off new
90:00
stuff but they're not Intel and they're also not iPhone accessories where it's
90:04
kind of cool stuff then you've got the sweets so guys like some of the boutique
90:08
guys like you know an EVGA or someone like that Corsair might have all their
90:12
new stuff on display in a suite in a nearby Hotel um and finally there's just
90:17
the general hubub you guys want to see like the traffic and like just all the
90:21
people around and like sort of some of the cool stuff going on outside the CES
90:25
building so what's your priority what do you guys want to see you want to see the show floor you want to see the Suites
90:30
and focus on sort of what's on display more privately or do you want to focus
90:34
on uh like do you want to see Keynotes and stuff which I don't think is going
90:37
to be an option because we can't get press passes but oh yeah okay forget the
90:42
Keynotes we can't bring you that um but do you guys guys just want like General
90:46
footage of the whole thing you want like the being their experience right yeah
90:51
but like also what thanks for the contribution like do they you were talking pretty quick the whole time what
90:55
do you want me to do um like you well
90:58
when I want to say something when you're talking I just talk over you it's cuz you're a
91:03
jerk um like do you want more of a focus on written articles do you want do you
91:07
want quick quick quick articles all the time or do you want just like uh more
91:12
in-depth thorough articles like yeah just what do you guys want um yeah what
91:17
do you want loud
91:20
computers okay well we don't have to transition into that right away we could
91:23
actually read what they're saying well okay I thought they were going to say
91:27
okay he wants no iPhone stuff all right
91:32
uh is it useful having 4 gigs of vram uh yes however I have no idea how much vram
91:37
future games will use because they're not here yet when are you going to play
91:40
Super Mario Brothers we said we yeah we got to find it I have no idea I have no
91:45
idea it's we're both ridiculously busy so finding time to sit down and bust the
91:49
Super Mario Brothers is going to be hard yeah in school I work fulltime Plus
91:53
YouTube so that should give you guys some idea um sinuses no that's ter um
92:01
what was I going to say but like we we will I think at some point in time we
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will get it done maybe in the summer yeah like it like it might take a long
92:08
time but it'll happen um when will you announce the for
92:11
we will announce that the Forum is live the second it's live guys yeah Lenovo
92:16
twist if you could get a if if I might do some for some testing for the Forum I
92:20
might just post on my Twitter so we don't get completely ridiculously Zerg
92:23
Rush right um because we will if we post it
92:26
on your Twitter right um so I might just post it on mine and I might just put it
92:30
up for a little bit of time just to test certain things and I'll probably have a theme like post pictures or something
92:36
here's a good question if and asking me I guess if you have any if you actually
92:40
why don't we both answer if you could have any phone now for free would you go
92:45
with an iOS phone or Windows or Android
92:48
go I would love to try I would love to try the new Windows one but I would
92:53
probably go with what if you were locked into it like what if you're a cheap
92:56
person like you are he's the one of the cheapest people I know what if you were
93:00
cheap and you knew that whatever phone you pick you're stuck with it for the next three years Nexus 4 you'd go with
93:06
the Nexus 4 yeah done Nexus support is amazing you'll always get the new OS
93:09
upgrades you always get all that kind of stuff so Nexus 4 okay I love my S3 it's
93:14
great but if I'm locked into something I would like it to be a next and I know I
93:18
am right it sucks warranty issues anyways um if I'm locked into something
93:22
Nexus and the newest one is an Nexus 4 and it's getting awesome reviews and
93:26
it's just generally great so yeah go with Nexus 4 hands down I would get an
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iPhone
93:34
5 you know what okay not not because I'm
93:38
a zealot but couple of reasons you're used to the user experience I am used to
93:43
it I hate learning new things although I have spent a fair amount of time with
93:46
Android just because I have to because it's my job um however all the apps I
93:52
own are on I I have bought apps and
93:55
migrating is a pain um I have an iPad
94:00
and I don't like Android tablets yet I haven't found one that I really really
94:04
like um I use my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to
94:08
watch Flash videos other than that I refuse to use it I use the iPad
94:14
um I use my TF700 again for watching
94:17
Flash videos when the battery's dead on the Galaxy Tab cuz it's too heavy and
94:21
the Galaxy Tab is lighter I'm a really p picky user and I've had people say that
94:25
I'm just like a really like you know don't be such a just use whatever
94:29
but come on guys if you could have every
94:32
tablet yo wouldn't you just be picky about which one you use I mean they're
94:37
all here why don't I use the one I like best bam so um so yes so I like you know
94:44
having that that ecosystem that is
94:47
similar I'd never go Mac for it like I'd never go Mac to have the full
94:52
integration thank God I I don't know
94:55
maybe I'd consider a Windows phone I I'm interested in the Windows phone because
94:59
Windows 8 is pretty awesome I mean we played around with we played around with
95:02
that Samsung one not enough though I know it wasn't enough we we saw a
95:07
Samsung Windows 8 phone at the windows8 launch party looked awesome it looked
95:11
great it was basically basically an S3
95:14
made out of metal that had Windows eight
95:17
on it so it was pretty it was pretty pretty legit the camera sucked I didn't
95:23
check the CER no the camera sucked did it yeah I thought it was supposed to be the same as this one I don't think so oh
95:28
cuz this maybe no it was the tablet it was the tablet that the camera suck the
95:31
tablet had a terrible camera ter the Windows 8 one from Samsung has the same
95:35
camera as this which is great okay my bad um
95:40
I okay I would waffle about it it would be a tough choice I wouldn't go on
95:43
Android though okay I'm I'm not surprised take that just cuz well I know
95:48
you don't like the user experience I
95:51
personally I think Android's better and you know what this comes down to that
95:54
fanboyism thing again where honestly sometimes fanboyism isn't fanboyism
95:58
sometimes it's a negative past experience the Android experience with
96:02
my wi phone has been terrible but you're using an like again not an Nexus device
96:07
so you didn't get updates um and you're
96:10
using one like an older Android OS and older Android os's were not that popular
96:15
it's a lot more popular now this is this is a good one Trent asks can you do more
96:19
3D monitor unboxings around 23 in and more affordable not those $600 ones
96:23
please this is a great example where if you checked it out and you searched for 3D
96:28
monitors on say for example a popular eail website like NCI what you'd see is
96:33
that the 3D monitors do cost a lot um so
96:37
for me to unbox the ones that are not expensive would be very
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difficult slicks picks and Linus's
96:49
Lube lus likes lus likes that's not bad is that
96:54
on Twitter or something now okay do you have anything else for really important
96:58
discussion topics because it's 10:42 already for people that are really into
97:03
games um a new release that's coming out fairly soon I think it's right at the
97:07
beginning of December Far Cry 3 if you look on YouTube there's a the first 20
97:11
minutes of the game looks awesome really excited for Far Cry 3 um the story line
97:15
sounds amazing if you've been following the storyline updates at all and the
97:19
gameplay video is just it's great check it out it's 20 minutes the uh the
97:23
doesn't ruin the story line at all the ad forward on The Escapist is terrible
97:27
the voice actor is I think the worst I've ever heard the voice actor which
97:31
one which one the main character I think really I it's just maybe it's just for
97:35
the ad like maybe he just phoned in the ad spot or something maybe because it
97:39
was just terrible you didn't see that bad my friends and I went to an island
97:43
and then the whole point captured originally he's kind of like a prissy
97:46
boy and his brother's in the Army and his brother like in a little tiny bit of
97:51
time trains him like very basic things then he has to like find his way to
97:54
survive and he becomes if it's better than Far Cry 2 I'll be happy like he's
97:58
got like Rich parents and stuff and they sent him on this trip and then all of his friends got captured and killed and
98:03
Etc okay Harry asks a question that uh
98:06
can be addressed uh he wants to blah BL something everyday computer and gaming
98:10
server he needs a GPU with dual HDMI no you don't DVI is the same signal as HDMI
98:16
DVI to HDMI adapter is exactly the same
98:19
image quality as straight HDMI and vice versa for that matter
98:24
the only difference is that HDMI has half the bandwidth of dual link DV uh we
98:28
can leave that one out um yeah we can actually leave those for
98:33
next week because there's uh we've kind of run out of time I just want to see if
98:37
anyone else has um Tyler asks do I still have the
98:41
surface I do not that was only an eval unit I only got to hold on to it for
98:45
about two weeks I did really like it though this is this is time specific
98:49
steam sales there's tons of epic epic epic steam sales going on right now
98:53
Black Friday yeah um there's there's like some done by hours there's some
98:58
done by days like go check it out there's going to be new steam sales up
99:03
all the time and a lot of them are really good they have a couple I know
99:06
there's a Reddit thread for like all the the top discount ones so some of them
99:09
are like 80% 75% cool should check it out okay well I've been corrected onean
99:14
writes back in to say actually Linus you're wrong at 12 hz.
99:20
Biz hold on actually it's on sale and
99:23
are having good results bam sold out since November
99:30
1st so I don't know I don't know who's
99:33
right let's go back to Twitter uh let's see EVGA step up from
99:40
660 Ti s to 2680 is an S worth it hard to say depends how much you're paying
99:44
for it uh what's your experience yeah uh
99:48
Surface RT I really liked but I'm really
99:51
excited for Surface Pro Windows 8 full Windows 8 that's going to be actually
99:56
install things and fully use the OS truly awesome like super excited about
100:01
that oh yeah uh love it good ideas
100:04
something something what was the question we even asked I don't think anyone's answered
100:09
it I use xsplit what people want to see at CES yeah nobody answered
100:15
it uh yes this is a good monitor if the
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surface prosos at CES you should do an in-depth article on that yes absolutely
100:25
absolutely this is good to hear okay know maybe I should change my answer
100:29
then maybe I should just like say I bite the bullet and go for Windows Eight go for gold what do you think of the g710
100:35
plus okay I've been sitting here for a while right um You have to hold it up
100:38
cuz they can't see it because it's covered by it is right here one of my first things that I noticed is the whole
100:45
don't know if you can see that so well oh yeah you can as I turn it like this
100:48
see all the glossy we talked about that earlier today the whole thing's glossy
100:53
and the whole time I've been sitting hold on that's not the whole thing caps
100:57
are M oh of course what do you mean of course there's a lot of glossy Razer
101:02
Razer has a glossy keyboard do they I would never yeah they have the laosa
101:05
leosa mirror was super
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glossy I saw someone with it out of land
101:12
it was the most disgusting thing I'd ever seen okay anyways the whole time
101:16
I've been sitting here if you guys see me looking down a lot it's because I'm
101:20
grabbing my shirt like this and putting my finger in it so I can clean the
101:24
glossiness cuz it is just driving me insane already so I do not like that at
101:28
all um the keys feel good obviously I'm
101:31
a fan of Blues so I'm not really going to comment on that too much keycaps seem
101:35
pretty legit um there's a few things like game mode I wish that was a switch
101:40
okay rather than rather than a toggle button
101:43
um the you they can't see what you're doing I'm just saying right yeah I know
101:48
like the mute button and game mode should be switches in my opinion okay um
101:53
other than that it seems pretty legit the the build quality seems really good
101:56
really really good would you put it up there with filco and
102:00
ducky the build quality yeah uh see I'm already cleaning more of
102:05
the glossy stuff um I don't know I still
102:09
think I'd need more time with it okay but maybe close though close I think
102:14
it's like one of the biggest contenders so far but I still think FCO and ducky
102:18
would be it probably okay well thank you guys for
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yeah yeah no F ducky still be it okay so
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thank you guys for watching the live stream tonight and
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um peace
102:34
out what did you just do I don't
102:38
know you did your PE sign so I was doing my PE sign what's your PE sign show me
102:42
that again is a Japanese
102:50
thing what all right gosu
102:56
no one's ever watching by the end anyway well at least on the YouTube archive no
103:00
no there's still people watching like the live one oh yeah and thank you all
103:03
of you who tuned in tonight you guys are awesome yeah yeah that's actually really
103:08
cool why are you leaping it
103:12
on just click or let's bring up another
103:15
topic and keep talking one of the two