Youtube crushes small channels - WAN Show Jan. 19 2018
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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yep let's do it oh you got mucho and you didn't get mucho
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for me i would have gotten you oh i i am so
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hungry right now mind you people would have been like even more mad if we were both
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eating on the shelf oh well i'm gonna try to like off screen it as much as i
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can i'm not even going to notice how it's not even on camera they can't even
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so i'll just randomly like you'll be talking i'll be like nodding and then suddenly just that is so cringe fading
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out like that is so cringe wait for it wait for it
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do you want something even more cringe though um i thought of a joke uh while i
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was upstairs getting my uh power adapter from my laptop oh no
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what is the weapon of choice
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for the most certain ninjas
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the shuriken
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okay you need nope nope you're done you need no no i'm not saying this
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negatively you need a kid's book i need a kid's body that has like kid friendly
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art and there's like a little ninja with the shuriken and then you just have like
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the little saying right there jokes for kids books are like pretty popular i'm
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not even kidding i think that could be pretty good
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one of one of the things that like i i would potentially do at some point in
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the future because exactly it looks like the
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easiest thing ever and if you just leverage your fame then
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a bunch of people will buy it and you will make a bunch of money like it just
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looks like the most obvious way to cash in on like having internet and if a
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bunch of people buy it then it'll go up in like amazon rankings and stuff and then other people will buy it exactly
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and if it's decent like the shuriken joke
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totally good enough and like if it goes along with like
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a frame of art which is like kid-friendly ninja dude yeah yeah and
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just it's like uh like blown up zoom in on the on the
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shuriken and it could be like you know what we could probably sell even more if
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we build it as like a um as like a a a an educational tool
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teaching kids about puns double entendres yeah so oh explain why it
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works that's right that's right fantastic you could take nintendo labo's
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approach and make it so that the shuriken can be like popped out yeah we
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could make it like a phonics lesson yes you know why sure and sure are the oh
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they're the same they say them the same way and they have two meanings
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uh so we've got a great topic great topic yeah we've got a great topic for
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you guys today and then we've got a bunch of other results about shuriken um
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apple is bringing out apparently
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bringing apparently 38 billion dollars
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back to the us of a yeah samsung has
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begun production on the industry's first 16 gigabit
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gddr6 memory at t is under pressure to
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cut all ties with huawei am i saying right yes i think so yeah and there has
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been pretty major changes to the youtube partner program and you might care
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or not actually i i don't know i think a lot of people care about this it's a
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funny thing because it only really affects content creators and yet whether
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it's because there are so many indie content creators now or whether it's the
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the loyalty of fans towards these content creators there's feel it feels
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like there is a disproportionate amount of outrage over this
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because we're going to break down who it actually affects yeah and
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the impact is arguably quite small or
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arguably a huge flipping deal depending so
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yeah why don't we i'm excited to get into that do you want to start with that
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do you want to start with that or should we make them pull should we pull like uh
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more on this at 11. more on this later for youtube creators that have been in
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the game for a long time and started really small you know what let's do it
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second because i want to talk about the at t thing i was actually at the huawei
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press conference um and i didn't because
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like the ceo was like on stage and unhappy about this right yeah it was it
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was actually super weird yeah um so so
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we were we were there as as part of a sponsored deal i'm gonna share this in
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the chat um yeah thanks so we were there as part of a sponsored deal this was
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posted originally on the forum by nina 360 and the original article here is
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from Android authority so here you go um
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so we were there as part of a sponsored deal and there were actually a bunch of other um influencers there as well
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including zach from jerry rig everything okay yeah yeah um just trying to think
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who else was there i believe keaton from tech smart was there
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um what's that i'm trying to give you a hint on someone
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that i think was there no i don't think he was there okay um
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i like how that worked though i think juddner was there okay yeah i can't
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remember i ran into all these guys like two to five times each over the course
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of the week so
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the whole thing's a blur anyway anyway the point was there were a bunch of influencers there which means that
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huawei was spending a bunch of money on influencers specifically with the
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north american reach and huawei it was boasting that they are now the number
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three smartphone brand worldwide but i
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think someone like you or i would look at that and unless we've seen you know
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an infographic and some kind of data to back it up we'd kind of go really yeah
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whoa like really
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not really actually like not really because who else would be bigger yeah
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and that's a great question but it does take a sec there's a little bit of pause
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where you're like yeah because they don't get like i wouldn't say that in
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north america in the media in the in the
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kiosks in your telecom store i wouldn't say that huawei gets more attention than
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you know someone like an lg for example whose market share is actually abysmal
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yeah but over here gets treated like uh like a top-tier brand um
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so anyway he he goes on stage and he's talking about this whole thing he's like yeah we have won over the trust of
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consumers we have won over the trust of carriers worldwide and we have
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you know we you know and he sort of seemed to lose his composure like i
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don't follow mobile news as much as i perhaps should other than
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our topics for WAN Show and when i'm working on a review of a device or
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whatever the case may be yeah um so i did in your defense it's been a little
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boring for a while i did not know about any controversy or any of the plans
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that huawei had made with at t about
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bringing the device not just into the us but into att stores because something to
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the tune of this is according to the Android authority article here something
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to the tune of 90 of smartphone sales in the us are done
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on contract with a subsidy and this isn't the case in a lot of
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other markets where people do tend to buy their devices outright like they
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would any other consumers but i'm not surprised due to how contracts work in
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north america and they don't work that way everywhere and they don't work that
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way like in north america buying a phone on contract
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is actually not stupid yeah um and you
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know with a lot of contract with some contracts but yeah um but like you know
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back when i was first getting into you know cell phone ownership when i was in
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like high school i absolutely just bought on contract you get the zero
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dollar phone you get the zero dollar phone and back then a lot of the
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carriers at least the one i was on anyway so some carriers i'll say some uh
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the one that i was on didn't give you a discount for bringing your own device
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so you were actually yeah yeah yeah if you didn't just get hardware now you had
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to sign a contract that was that was the drawback
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but there were what two carriers at the time there was
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rogers and there was telus here i don't think bell was available here yet back
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in uh back in like 2000 you're talking like sliders and stuff right yeah i
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i don't want to talk about it flip i no this is pretty bricks i hate you
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you're talking about bricks i hate you okay so i wasn't in the game at that
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point i wasn't allowed to have a phone at that age
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um what was the uh what was that phone that i had
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it was i don't remember v blocks i got a phone pretty late okay
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this was oh nice this was my first phone
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yes oh that's amazing so i got it because my
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mom's hard of hearing and um
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okay so this was i i believe this was like the first like text
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centric device out there yeah um but this came around at a time that bricks
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were the next right so she reads lips so if you want to call her it's not really
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going to work that's right i never even thought about that that makes sense yeah okay because you've met her and you
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probably didn't notice because she's really good at it yeah um but anyway so
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so that was my first phone and um
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right so so the only drawback was that you had to sign a contract which didn't
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really matter that much because quite frankly where else were you gonna go
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if you wanted to have a cell phone at all so as long as i knew i wanted a cell phone for two years it was no big deal
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and then during your two years you would accumulate credit towards your hardware
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upgrade after a couple of years the upgrade cycles weren't so fast
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like to my knowledge apple kind of pioneered
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the new phone every year come heller high water upgrade cycle because there
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wasn't that drastic of improvements and i wasn't an enthusiast
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at all about phones they they placed calls and in this case
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they were really good for typing text messages but that was about it
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um so i was like yeah whatever who cares
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um so anyway back to the whole 18t thing so he was like visibly upset on stage
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when he started talking about how you know
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some carriers and some countries with
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all this work that we've put into consumer privacy and security
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are treating us with the appropriate respect while others are not and like he
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kind of had like he didn't say respect i don't think but it kind of had that tone
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and i was sitting here in the audience kind of going wow this is a really weird way to uh to
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talk about you know your big push in the u.s
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and the reason is that it's not happening
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so while huawei does move some phones in
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the u.s they only have access to a tiny
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ten percent of the market because ninety percent of consumers are buying on
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contract so it fell through at the last minute
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and now a new report has suggested that
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it was us lawmakers pushing att to cut
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ties with huawei over national security concerns
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um so senators and house members are
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encouraging att to ditch even any potential plans to work with huawei on
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standards for its 5g network 18d is expected to roll out that network
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at the end of 2018 and is competing with verizon to become the first carrier to
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offer high-speed service to the us on 5g
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so um senate and house intelligence committee sent a letter to the fcc
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raising concerns over huawei's alleged ties to the communist party as well as
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china's intelligence and security services and there have been other
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historical moves like this
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by governments to restrict huawei's competitiveness so canada for example
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really surprising i think like five years ago six years ago five or six
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years ago canada actually disallowed i don't know if it's still in effect but
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they disallowed the use of huawei telecommunications gear on the back end
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of carrier networks
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i can totally see why so your take on this then
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because it seems like you it seems like you got an opinion here luke okay
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the very bottom bullet point on this and there's a lot of information on this is
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uh senate and host intelligence committees sent a letter to the fcc
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raising concerns over huawei's alleged ties to the communist party as well as
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chinese intelligence and security services there's already there's also a
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lot of articles online about how huawei's backend equipment specifically
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is specifically designed to allow the chinese government to tap into it um
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also just being owned by the chinese government and going up again or having
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ties to or having ties to on paper maybe there's no ownership whatsoever i
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actually don't know but go ahead i
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looked it up in a second ago but none of them are sources that i'm going to give
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100 credibility to got it that said there is ownership but again
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i don't know because i wouldn't give 100 credibility to those sources but anyways
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with the current administration in the u.s
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and it being a to some degree ties with chinese
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government corporation i can probably see why there might be some influence
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from the government being like no no let's not do this
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um i can definitely understand not wanting the back end equipment holy crap
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um the phones in general i think is more of a
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yeah it's more just like uh out of i guess
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out of well because okay this is a this is kind
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of a weird insight thing that i'm going to take a tangent on for a second when
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you travel to a lot of other so for north americans as we are as you travel
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to a lot of other countries it's a little weird um
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with the purchasing habits yeah and the stuff that you see around because in
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north america you see whatever when you go to a lot of other
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countries not all other countries but a lot of other countries you see that
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country's thing yep i mean that's particularly common in germany germany
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is huge for it japan is used for it korea is huge for it samsung everything
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you'd be amazed what kind of things samsung makes toilets elevators yeah
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insurance like like whoa um and like
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there's a there's a much more uh and i might be using this word
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incorrectly sorry i'm not super great on political stuff but there's a much more
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nationalistic approach to purchasing where you want to purchase your own
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country's things of course made in america made in canada are both things
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yeah well like we don't mind yeah like it's kind of cool but it's not the same
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particularly for canadians i think the the truth of the matter is that you
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don't really have the option to we don't we don't make enough stuff like if i
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wanted to if i wanted all of my personal grooming products to be made in canada
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nope um good luck yeah like i could probably find some
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stuff i'm sure you'd be able to find especially some beard-based things oh
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i'm sure i'd be able to find some canadian beard care products not that that would be a major concern for me
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since this is about as much of a beard as i can grow but thank you for bringing it up the only reason why i said that is
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like around the world yeah there's a lot of like small homebrew kind of companies
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that do beard stuff because you can make your own beard yeah yeah sure whatever
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backtracking anyways um it's it's yeah it's not nearly as much
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of a thing in north america but i could see how current administration in the
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u.s might be pushing to make it more so sure and would be pushing against
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especially companies that have ties to the governments of other countries that are
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being purchased in a nationalistic sense from coming where there's no commitment
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um you know up front to say okay yeah we're going to bring x number of jobs
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into the united states because the potential here and again we don't
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know okay so we don't know what involvement if any the u.s government
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has already had in the negotiations but sure if while we were to come to the
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table with the us government and say okay yeah
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like we're committing to assembling some percentage of our devices that we sell
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within the united states in the u.s if they were gonna if they were gonna come
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and make some kind of a deal then i suspected more likely it would be
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more likely but right now i guess i can't think of a great
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reason for them to be gung-ho about this
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also this part uh senators and house members are
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encouraging at t to ditch any potential ties to work with huawei on standards
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for its 5g network again that's them trying to get into the back end yup and
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i'm super not surprised that that's not the thing
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max just quietly walks off stage um i'm super not surprised that that's not a
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thing because of ties to the idea of their back end being
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tapped by the chinese government so to be very clear um you know we
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allegedly yeah like we don't know
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what is or isn't happening all we know is what's going on we know the us
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government is uncomfortable with it we know huawei is super unimpressed with
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what's going on and presumably at t would be as well
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because by most accounts they make really good devices it's just not
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necessarily affordable if you rely on
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contract subsidies in order to buy your phone and it won't be competitive when
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you can walk in and buy an iphone for
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two hundred dollars yeah yeah yeah quote unquote uh versus a
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huawei device for eight hundred dollars because you have to buy the whole thing
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up front yeah um all right why don't we jump right
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into the changes to the youtube partner program here this was posted by hey yo
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on the forum the original article is actually straight from the youtube blog
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so this is a pretty big deal do we want to do
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kind of a short recap of some of the other changes that youtube has made
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towards creators this year like sure um so what the biggest one is referred to
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as the adpocalypse and there have actually been a couple of different stages yeah uh this i think is is
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considered by the community to be wave three no okay i think something along those
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lines i don't okay anyway i wouldn't entirely agree
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with that there's there's been i i okay i saw it referred to as that whatever
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whatever the community said yeah i call it two i i could maybe bundle this in i think
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it's kind of a separate thing yeah okay the point is the adpocalypse is sort of
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used as a generic term to describe changes that too many things google or
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through youtube has made fundamental changes to the way that content creators
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monetize on the youtube platform and so some examples have been
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um pulling monetization from potentially
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touchy or controversial subjects even if
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the video in question is a mature conversation about said controversial
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topic and contains you know no
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um you know community guideline infringing
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content like if it's you know if you're having unless you're a news
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a tv news organization so that's been another
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you know problem with this whole controversy is that there seem to be
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channels that are getting their videos pulled just for having
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knife in the metadata yeah uh or you know like a perfect example was when we
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had the monetization pulled from an unboxing of the razer blade
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or the switchblade switchblade interface that was the issue um so because it had
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that keyword in it it got the monetization pulled so it seems like some channels are very susceptible to
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this while some mainstream channels like i believe um
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it's late show with colbert right i believe colbert has been pointed at as
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someone who has had controversial topics in the titles i think it's basically all
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the late show hosts because they a lot okay
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this is super generalizing but a lot of the late show tv programs put snippets
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and clips onto youtube yes it's really popular
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they get quite a few kimmel does that i think does he still do it john oliver does it very occasionally i don't know
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man um but they they get a lot of views yep and they're really heavily promoted
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by the platform and they're not struck down in any way right
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okay so that's been that's been a big part of the problem
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then there was the whole issue that was kind of tied into monetization slash
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preferential treatment where logan paul posted that extremely controversial
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video in the suicide forest in japan and
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the perception among the community i'm not going to make a judgment call here
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because i wasn't sitting in the war room that i'm sure existed at youtube when
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they were trying to figure out what to do about this yep um i wasn't present there um those got to be crazy meetings
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nor was i present you know with logan paul when he was thinking about how he
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was going to react to the community's reaction and i wasn't sitting in the
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rooms of the people who are watching those videos i'll be honest with you guys i haven't watched it i have no
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desire to see that um and actually we
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sort of didn't address it at all because my general policy on something that i
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don't agree with is to just not give it any attention whatsoever but in the
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context of our news topic today it's sort of important because
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what it appeared to spark was um a conversation where the
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perception was that youtube was treating
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logan paul vlogs that's the channel uh preferentially
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in not removing this content or dealing
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with presumably what would have been a fair number of community reports
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and in fact at first anyway had appeared to not
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penalize the channel or the user in any
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meaningful way like many days for for days not just for like a couple hours
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yeah um and then making matters worse
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there were instances of youtube pulling down re-uploads
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of the original video because they violated community guidelines while the
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original was still live
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okay so um
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this blog post is sort of about how 2017 was a tough
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year in fact you know let's let's just sort of discuss some excerpts from it uh
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2017 was a tough year um what do they got here despite the issues more
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creators than ever earning a living on youtube um blah blah blah major focus is
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protecting our creator ecosystem ensuring your revenue is more stable
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now we want to prevent bad actors from harming the inspiring and original
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creators we want to do this we want to do that
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so basically what they've done
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seemingly as a response to these issues
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is they have changed the previous eligibility requirements for the youtube
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partner program which going way back so should i do another history lesson here
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yes okay i think it's important for this section yeah so when i first started out on
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youtube it was either
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i think it might have been pre-monetization i think i was pre-monetization i'm not
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sure so when i started out on youtube it was either pre-monetization at all
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or it was shortly after the partner program
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had been introduced and the only way to get into the partner program was by
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specifically being invited so really early guys like phil defranco
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were in it well before i had access to it yeah
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after that there was an application process
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that was when i got in through the ncix tech tips channel i'm not sure if Linus
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tech tips existed yet although i actually i think it did
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so that was when i got in actually no i'm actually quite certain that it did
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because there was already revenue to show for the youtube program back at
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ncix when Linus tech tips was created because i remember negotiating a bonus
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around it or something okay okay then youtube basically opened up the
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floodgates and they went okay we're just going to put monetization on all the
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things because we've got this inventory of videos and anywhere there's eyeballs
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google wants to put an ad yeah that's their mo that's how it works
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so anyway fast forward quite a bit in april
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of 2017 they set an eligibility requirement of 10 000 lifetime views
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the idea was to have some kind of a history to look back
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at for a given channel to make sure that it wasn't just blatant re-uploads of
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copyright tv shows for example which is
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still all over the platform oh yeah and lots of other issues like music and
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movies and whatever else yeah but but the idea was so so that they could
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they'd have at least you know ten thousand views worth of time to weed out
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the ones that were just blatantly not real content
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and then here's the follow-up that threshold
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provided more information to determine whether a channel followed our community
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guidelines but it's been clear over the last few months that we need a higher standard
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so starting on the 16th of january which
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is three days ago and this the blog says starting today like they they're like
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effective there's a little aggro in that in that regard yeah they changed the
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eligibility requirements for monetization to 4 000 hours of watch
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time in the past 12 months and 1 000 subscribers
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so basically
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it appears as though if you're a one-hit wonder
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who doesn't have any subscribers you might not be able to monetize and if you
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you know run your channel as kind of like
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a hobby and you don't actually get a ton of views or a ton of hours of watch time
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but you actually have a decent number of subscribers who wait for your videos
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that you may be published very infrequently you could be affected by youtube's
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attempt to crack down on potentially inappropriate videos from monetizing
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now right off the bat i'm not actually working off of my notes here but right
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off the bat i can identify a couple of problems here number one is that that
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whole spider-man elsa thing was going on for
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over a year yeah like for a freaking long time and these requirements would
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have done absolutely nothing to say not a thing
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they got way more hours and way more subscribers than that the issue with the
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suicide forest vlog wouldn't have thought that wouldn't have
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stopped that what i'm trying to figure out right now is
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what this move has to do i think anything the community
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is upset about oh no i think this has a lot to do with
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stopping things that the community is not particularly upset about but youtube
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and advertisers might be upset about um i think it will directly
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help stop things like people monetizing
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movie song uh episode all those kind of uploads
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because a lot of those accounts will will get banned but will get payouts
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and they'll get payouts based on content that they ripped from someone else and
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they might just create a new account and then get paid out on that account create a new account get paid on that account
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so i think they're trying to hammer down on that i don't think it's really going
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to solve much else another thing that i want to throw into the ring that some people have brought up is
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if you have a thousand subscribers
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if you have less than a thousand subscribers and less than 4 000 hours of
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total watch time over the last 12 months yeah
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how much were you making so okay
26:47
this is where we get into the conversation that goes
26:51
is this a big deal yeah so it is a big deal in the sense that
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youtube is kind of spinning it as a benefit to the community when actually
27:02
this has as far as i can tell everything to do with the blowback that
27:08
they're getting from advertisers for having that wide open we're going to put
27:11
monetization on everything then advertisers realizing well yeah the
27:16
brand was getting i forgot that part of the history lesson unfortunately yeah so
27:20
advertisers realizing that their brand was getting placed next to content that
27:23
they found objectionable like like literally terrorists which we've talked
27:27
about which we've talked about before and i think this is just follow up on that and
27:33
i think that the suicide forest incident has nothing to do with this remember no
27:37
no it does it does but not on the community side yeah what it has to do
27:41
with is that he was a preferred channel yeah a
27:45
channel that youtube specifically goes out there
27:48
and pitches to advertisers like we're a preferred channel preferred channels are
27:53
to an even greater degree i would think
27:56
expected to abide by the community guidelines which by the way doesn't
28:00
necessarily mean that you can't drop a you know [ __ ] bomb in your video
28:05
occasionally it's spelled out pretty clearly i mean
28:10
you know egregious profanity i believe is covered
28:13
in the community guidelines i'm not sure i haven't looked at it regis is kind of
28:16
a specific term it's a very sort of gray area actually but there are there so
28:21
there are things that well no it makes it so that probably what you just said
28:25
isn't going to get you no owned you'd have to like go pretty ham
28:29
so it's still gray but you'd have to but i don't know how they'd make it less
28:33
gray you know what i mean so here's the community guidelines
28:36
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah nudity or sexual content harmful or
28:41
dangerous content violent or graphic content hateful content harassment and
28:46
cyber bullying threats spam misleading metadata and scams copyright privacy
28:50
impersonation child endangerment and additional policies a big issue about
28:54
all this is like i can even think off the top of my head of
28:58
one or more examples that i've seen of at least every single thing in there
29:02
yeah so a vulgar language is actually bundled under additional policies
29:08
right here and it specifically says here that exp sexually explicit language or
29:13
excessive swearing in your video or associated metadata may lead to your video being age restricted so excessive
29:18
so what happened here was um and in this case i don't even think
29:22
there's really anything in here you could call it graphic content actually
29:27
uh violent or gory content that's primarily intended to be shocking
29:30
sensational or disrespectful okay it's definitely exactly what it is um so
29:33
anyway the problem here is that
29:37
as far as i can tell youtube got yet another round of blowback from
29:41
advertisers for specifically promoting a channel that blatantly violated their
29:46
community guidelines and then the content was just left there
29:50
presumably with ads still running on and i think if it was dropped super fast
29:56
it might have been a different reaction from the advertisers yes and from the
29:59
community yeah but ultimately that's what's going on here
30:03
the collateral damage is mostly channels that and youtube lays
30:07
this out in our blog post mostly channels that made less than two dollars
30:11
and fifty cents last month okay this is what i was saying and less than a
30:14
hundred dollars in the last year if you're relying on that
30:19
whoa yeah there is probably other ways that
30:23
you can make money on the internet easier pretty sure there are and or even
30:26
we mowed lawns and that's more profitable we sold berries oh that
30:31
wasn't profitable yeah yeah anyway but the point is that
30:36
you could just go work at the place that there's a lot of outrage about this and
30:40
i'm putting myself i won't bundle you in with me but i'm putting myself in a
30:44
position to say something kind of unpopular yeah but
30:49
i actually don't think this is that big of a deal i'm with you
30:53
because okay the first thing i did when i read this was like at the very
30:57
beginning before you get really deep into it i was like wow they're screwing
31:00
over the little guy why would they do that that makes no
31:03
sense and then i saw their thresholds and i was like uh
31:07
this isn't gonna make a difference to anyone's major bottom line so anyone
31:13
that small speaking youtuber to youtuber
31:16
yeah i would recommend you turn off your i was just gonna say you will get more
31:21
traction with people and they will share it more and they'll watch more of the video if you turn off the ads anyways
31:25
and you'll be seen as a good guy and more people watch your stuff because you
31:28
gotta understand that there's always a trade-off between monetization and we'll
31:32
get into our sponsors for the wine show in a moment here heck yeah there's always a trade-off between monetization
31:37
of your existing audience and audience building
31:41
we could upload videos every day that are pure ads and our audience would stop
31:45
growing or we could dial back all of our ads
31:49
entirely and sponsors and all that stuff turn off
31:52
everything and we could grow faster and every creator out there is trying to
31:56
find that happy medium where they are satisfied with their level of growth and
32:01
when you're making they're making good money when you're making two bucks a month off youtube you need to focus on
32:06
growth it's probably worth focusing on growth especially because at that point
32:10
in time growth is way harder to get with all of that said
32:16
um i'm coming at this from sort of a um
32:19
maybe not unique but sort of an unusual angle in that the adpocalypse has not
32:25
had a significant negative impact on our
32:28
adsense yeah and uh this is something
32:32
that you know i was i was going to address at some point
32:35
but at the end of the day you don't get a what it's called a fill
32:40
rate so the number of impressions that you serve versus the number of ads
32:45
accompanying those impressions if you had one ad on every video that
32:50
you showed to someone aunt venom just said same oh interesting yeah hi aunt um
32:54
so so if you had one ad in front of every single video view that you showed
32:59
someone let's say it's a perfect world where nobody has ad block and youtube's
33:03
ad sales is like go in gangbusters they can sell more ads then youtube can serve
33:08
views which is like really yeah yeah okay
33:12
that would be a 100 fill rate now if youtube's ad sales you know
33:17
program completely shut down and there were no ads that would be a zero percent
33:20
fill rate nobody has a 100 fill rate
33:24
so what it means for family-friendly content or non-controversial content is
33:30
that your fill rate and your cpms because you might get
33:35
access to the more premium ads as a youtube preferred partner for example
33:40
your fill rate might go up and your cpms which is the amount that
33:44
you get paid per thousand views or per thousand ad views
33:49
that can go up too so our january this year
33:53
our viewership will not be higher than it was last year but through a
33:58
combination of youtube red being more popular
34:01
and through the adpocalypse stripping advertising away from many many many
34:06
many many potentially hundreds hundreds of thousands of very very very
34:10
small channels that will contribute to a higher fill
34:14
rate and potentially higher cpm for us
34:17
we are actually going to make more in adsense this january than we did last
34:21
january which is good because we have like five more people than we had last
34:26
january that's that's not anyone else's problem it's just if you guys were concerned
34:30
that a lot of people do express concern at the way that we hire um and the way
34:33
that we like build sets and buy cameras and all those things also doing business
34:37
you got it you got to do things we are we are don't worry we are we're planning
34:41
for the future we're watching all of these trends these are things that even though we don't necessarily talk about
34:45
all the time we are we have eagle eyes on if you're on something like youtube
34:49
and you're not moving you're screwed
34:52
um you got to do some stuff sometimes
34:56
and that's that's another thing i want to jump back to for the like if you are
34:59
if you are a smaller creator and i'm using the terminology of below a
35:03
thousand subs and below four thousand watch hours in the last what is it
35:08
12 months i think it's the last 12 months um
35:12
yeah but you can't now but don't monetize and you might not
35:17
want to monetize for a little while you might eventually get brought into the
35:21
partner program and you might want to stay not monetized because then when you
35:24
get there you will get the benefit of youtube not paying out a bunch of tiny
35:30
amounts to a bunch of creators that might never even reach the threshold
35:33
where they're going to get a check effectively giving youtube 100 of the ad
35:37
payout so this may have such an oh that's interesting this may actually
35:42
hurt youtube's bottom line if they are only
35:46
feeding ads to people who are actually going to get a plan now is way more
35:50
worried about making advertisers happier yeah they can get more big bins oh i
35:54
know but this just i think in the extremely short run it might hurt it
35:58
yeah i think this is a more longer term play um
36:02
but yeah i i would focus and maybe if you're like i need to focus on
36:07
this youtube thing more i need to cut back hours at work that's when you
36:11
monetize your videos yeah and you just tell your audience that
36:15
hey guys i'm going to monetize my videos because i want to focus more time on
36:19
making the great content that you guys enjoy of basket weaving with RGB lights
36:24
and that sounds horrible i'm gonna i'm gonna keep doing it i'm gonna go hard
36:27
i'm gonna spend uh at least four hours a day weaving these lights together making
36:31
sure all the power strips are going all properly and you know you can have
36:35
glowing fruit bowls um
36:38
yeah i don't know just communicate that to your audience and that will
36:41
serve you a lot better uh doing it later on down the line once
36:44
you have an established core audience because then they won't leave
36:48
they'll keep sharing it because they're an established core audience and you can
36:52
actually survive more properly question for you this was a great
36:56
question i forget who asked it
36:59
would you allow logan paul on Floatplane
37:03
would you i don't know you're the lead of partner
37:06
management whatever true i am but i'm curious to know what you think
37:10
knowing what you know let's say that let's say that he goes
37:14
you know what let's say he didn't post an apology that was super sincere let's
37:18
say that he was just like you know what no i'm gonna film dead bodies whenever i
37:22
come across them don't worry about it um
37:26
you're you're the public front
37:29
okay well you know what i have an opinion i'll throw my opinion i want to
37:33
cheat and hear what you have to say no no no no you already yeah you gave away
37:37
your hand what no no it hit me with your opinion no no you said you have one you
37:40
have to do it um i don't really care okay because in my
37:47
opinion how this should all be handled and how i
37:50
think things in general should all be handled is i don't personally in my
37:54
personal morality whatever like the idea of the governmental hand
37:59
coming down and slapping okay i would prefer that he joined the
38:04
platform yep people saw that video and
38:07
everyone unsubscribed and everyone stopped giving us money and
38:11
stopped giving him money here's the here's the lead of partner management
38:16
answer the answer is absolutely yes he would be allowed on the platform
38:20
because here's the thing about the youtube
38:23
community guidelines so flow planes guidelines are basically along the lines
38:27
of legality and there's nothing illegal
38:31
about walking in that forest and filming something
38:35
you're not allowed going off trail i don't think it's illegal i think it's
38:38
just there's lots of signs advising you not to okay yeah um
38:42
so so as far as i can tell he didn't actually
38:47
do anything illegal because that's that's one thing
38:50
you guys have to understand is when running sorry i'm gonna interject for a moment when running Floatplane that's
38:55
one of the reasons why it's its own company yes is because our opinions and
38:59
Linus media group's opinions don't matter
39:02
uh we're running the platform i think it's gross
39:05
i don't like it either not cool with it
39:08
but that is not my call to make and if float planes
39:12
if Floatplane's objective is to be the
39:16
the not um evil overlord then ultimately we have
39:21
to allow okay because flow plane itself is not
39:25
going to be a broader community in the same sense
39:28
that youtube is correct flow plane will be individual creators with their own
39:34
communities and if his community is fine with it
39:37
which fascinating they seem to be they seemed
39:41
to be it wasn't until this went viral and kind of spread beyond his
39:45
subscribers that people started sitting up and taking notice of how effed up it
39:50
was um and if his community is cool with it then ultimately we can
39:56
just not watch it not look at it
40:00
and kind of hope for the best and like one
40:04
thing about Floatplane if you're subscribed to this dude
40:07
and you're like wow i really don't like that i don't respect him anymore i
40:12
really dislike this content and you don't want to see it in your feed anymore
40:16
stop actively giving that person money and it won't show up in your feed
40:20
anymore ever nice timing yeah that was good hell
40:25
yeah because that's how the platform's done it's we we aren't going to make
40:29
flip i'm going to actively pursue people coming on the platform and i have that i
40:34
like and that i respect because i want them to be on the platform people are
40:37
asking if we would advertise it it's a great question so flow plane is not
40:40
designed with a suggested algorithm in
40:43
fact we do not intend to implement one
40:46
users would have to opt in they would have to browse creators in order to get
40:50
suggestions from us there won't be like you finish watching uh a Techquickie
40:55
video and then it's like hey
40:58
you might also like tech deals here's a here's a sample of tech deals go
41:02
subscribe to tech deals totally arbitrary example we haven't
41:07
talked to him at all about joining the platform sorry had something in my eye
41:11
um anyway
41:15
so there's no mechanism for that um so no we wouldn't we wouldn't have to
41:20
advertise it and honestly
41:23
if i was in charge of that judgment call which i'm pretty sure i am i wouldn't
41:28
yeah yeah and there's there's yeah
41:32
anyways so essentially yeah
41:36
our opinions don't uh zahee zahi funny
41:39
enough tech deals is a real channel i didn't know that whoa what
41:43
holy it's like you were referencing something really specific but without even knowing
41:49
about that oh darn um
41:52
okay anyway um okay you know what
41:56
okay do you have anything else to add here um no essentially our our opinions won't
42:02
govern what ends up being unfolding hopefully our opinions will
42:06
drive certain people to join because we're like hey we like you will you join
42:09
we want to support creators that we feel are doing great stuff but eventually the
42:14
door is going to be somewhat open to creators to join if they want
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and yeah yeah platform's not live yet lol speaking of
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i don't know what just happened right there i'm going to put in an http colon
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all right so what else what else we got here
47:29
oh man is this more bad one plus news
47:33
you gotta be kidding me um okay
47:37
so posted by walthar on the forum
47:41
uh oneplus had uh it appears to be a credit card breach
47:45
uh update january 19th update number two
47:48
thank you for your comments we're reading each and every one and we appreciate your feedback we do want to
47:51
clarify only potentially affected users will receive the email
47:55
but in a nutshell um oneplus has emailed
47:59
nearly 40 000 of their customers to inform them that their credit card data
48:03
may have been compromised here's what i want to know like we've discussed this
48:07
because back with Linus tech tips other than subscriptions on the forum
48:12
there was no reason for us to ever need people's payment information in one of
48:16
the rules hold on even then we didn't hold it one of the reasons that we opted
48:19
for paypal was that it allowed us to take payments in a recurring fashion
48:24
without holding the customer's payment information ourselves because we don't
48:29
want that responsibility and why would we need it we got owned once did we like
48:33
remember a long time ago oh that thing yeah and like that was kate and there
48:37
was no payment information and there was no
48:40
full-time developers on the site and stuff which is part of the reason why we
48:44
got owned but there was no payment information they didn't get anything yes we got nothing so
48:48
i'm looking at this going like okay so right we've discussed it
48:51
with flow plane we found other solutions um
48:54
but still on Floatplane we will hold
48:58
no i don't want it payment information i don't want any of it i don't want that liability
49:02
that's horrible that's horrible because then we might have to send out this email then then i don't want to send an
49:07
email then the level one tax podcast might be talking about flow play media
49:11
and their breach of a hundred thousand customers i want them to talk about
49:14
floor plan media yeah but not our customer credit card yeah no no no no we
49:18
don't want that other things that's terrible um why do they want this why
49:22
are they keeping it because who buys
49:26
from one plus in a recurring fashion like are we talking the world's most
49:30
forgetful people who lose their their dash charger all the time and they just
49:34
have like a like you know that's oh wow a dash button
49:38
and they just have like a like a one plus equivalent
49:41
of a dash button to get a new dash charger like why would they want this
49:46
are those still a thing i haven't heard about dashboards i don't know if they work in canada
49:50
though oh um so one of their servers was infected
49:54
with a malicious script affecting the payment page code collecting credit card
49:58
info while it's being entered oh okay so that whole rant was over nothing because
50:01
it was while it was being entered it operated intermittently capturing and
50:05
sending data directly from the user's browser and it has since been eliminated
50:09
so anyone who entered their credit card on oneplus.net wow that whole rant i
50:12
wish we could cut it out between mid-november 2017 and january 11
50:17
2018 could be affected credit card info
50:20
including card numbers expiry dates and security codes entered like what is the
50:24
point of that security code anymore when
50:27
pretty much everyone online makes you enter it the thing about this is like
50:31
you know that from from having worked at a retailer we don't need it to process
50:36
it costs more to process without it oh
50:42
yeah yeah baby interesting huh
50:46
that's why every single person takes it so that's why everyone takes it even
50:49
though the whole point of that is supposed to be that it's like a second
50:53
factor proving that you have physical access to the card
51:00
anyone who paid via a saved credit card should not be affected okay so that's
51:03
what you get for saving your credit card on websites don't do that and users who
51:07
paid via the credit card via paypal method those won't be affected because
51:11
their credit card is abstracted through paypal no no they're saying users who paid via
51:16
a saved credit card should not be should not be effect oh wait oh right because
51:19
it's only when you enter not entering okay okay why do we even well you know
51:23
what why do we even do news we should just banter forget it yeah so they're
51:27
working with payment providers to implement a more secure credit card payment method and they're offering one
51:31
year of credit monitoring for those affected that's nice because that's not cheap
51:35
like i have i have had to deal with credit card theft before
51:39
me too very recently yeah sucked a lot it's like a big bummer and then
51:44
all the accounts that you have auto subscribing are like
51:48
everything is cancelled uh this is posted by ag 1233 on the forum nintendo
51:53
announces cardboard yes switch controllers wait what no
51:58
a label for switch it's not switch controllers build it yourself cardboard
52:02
kits compat sorry excuse me cardboard kits compatible with nintendo switch
52:06
so okay sorta
52:09
not a great title a lot of people in my opinion have been
52:13
misrepresenting this you get a game you get software on the switch and then
52:18
you get a cardboard kit to build something that goes along with that game
52:22
so that you have interesting types of physical interaction with the game you get a game
52:28
okay everyone's like oh they're just selling cardboard no okay so here's an
52:32
example you could make a functioning 13 key piano cradle yeah for the switch con
52:37
you make a functioning 13 p piano that cradles the switch console and the right
52:41
joy con controller the ir motion camera and the joy con
52:45
detects which keys are pressed and plays each note through the console's speakers
52:49
and there's other stuff you can take control of your very own motorbike by
52:52
constructing a functioning set of handlebars with a joy-con inserted in
52:56
each side and the switch console in the middle so just to add a caveat here too
53:00
you might not be into it and that might be super fair
53:04
but so many people are just like oh they're just selling cardboard no there's games that go with it i
53:07
misunderstood i thought it was a controller in the sense that there was
53:11
cardboard and stuff but you just use your joy con and the switch as the stuff
53:15
got it yeah okay sure why not i mean i
53:19
i'll confess i went out there and i bought one of those um one of those
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steering wheels for the week you should check it out it's the worst you should
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check out these yeah um you should check out the robot one the robot suit
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uh there's a video for this that's like really good actually
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uh robot kit nintendo sure let's let's let's pull that up
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i'm sure we're gonna end up with a strike should just oh oh
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do you not want to watch it no no it's fine let's just let's just do it um you
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could just youtube nintendo labo there it is nintendo labo okay let's
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pull this let's pull this baby up
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let's at least mute it for our best chance here yeah so this beginning bit
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is them just print uh it's a little bit further so there's a fishing reel there
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here's the uh
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oh wow oh wow oh wow here's the keep hashtag flow plane there's the piano
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yeah there's a house thing i don't know what that does yeah there's oh it just
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like vibrates and runs around it's like those little toys
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um that's the motorcycle thing
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this is a fishing rod i believe this one's available now i'm not sure i'm not
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sure so yeah you actually have to like reel in and like fight with the fish i don't
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know i don't understand what the house does i never understood that part
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um oh lagging where's the where's the
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robot one though because it's crazy it's before this it's somewhere around here
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is this it this is it okay
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oh i think you're slightly past it yeah yeah you slightly passed it okay uh you
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know what okay forget it it's cool right here's a guy there's part of the
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backpack thing yeah you want to see when she takes the thing off the back so yeah
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hold up shotgun yeah
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there okay oh but you don't get to see the construction part wait wait let it
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let it go let it go we already watched this part because she takes off the back and it
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shows you how it works no no no no just wait just wait yeah
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okay okay cool so
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he has a joy-con on each of his ankles and he has a joy-con in each of his
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hands and they're connected by strings through that box on the back and those
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switches go up and down so it knows he's moving right and his movement in real
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life goes into the game it has four points of
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it's actually kind of cool it's kind of cool um
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you know they're all hopefully games hopefully vr
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gets better and cheaper enough that we can just do it that way pretty soon yeah
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but i guess this is a um so that that's one of the criticisms that i think is
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relatively valid is it shows the two kits there at the end yeah they're like
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69 and 79 dollars so 70 and 80 dollars yeah and i believe
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the games that are gonna come with it are gonna be pretty mini gamey right
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um whereas they could have done a lot more with it but then we also don't know
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what the games are like sure so there could be more to it i don't i suspect
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the piano one is just gonna be a piano
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that you can key into i don't think there's gonna be like many like a lot of mini games with
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it stuff but we'll see so last topic we had um we had a lot of people really
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upset with us about one of the videos we posted at ces
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uh where we said there was an undisclosed number of cores in a laptop
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why do we get [ __ ] for that uh we got flack for that because people were like
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well here there was um there was a comment that i have where did i see it i
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like just saw it someone in the chat maybe on the phone you're paying 70 for
56:49
cardboard oh my god i'm going to have an aneurysm
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um anyway someone was really upset they're
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like if it's too embargoed to say how many then you just
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shouldn't post it and i'm like what would you not get excited about like
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cool unreleased tech um anyway
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in unrelated news uh there's a rumor on chippell.com
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that Intel will be bringing six core processors to mobile six core 12 thread
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processors word on the street is that we're going to see an i5 8300h all the
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way to 8850h and that would be a 2.6 base 4.3
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boost uh oh wait sorry this isn't oh this is
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wow this is really unclear apparently there may also be about an i9 hk
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what that does for up to 4.8 boost 6 core 12
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thread sick wow that sounds awesome
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um all right cool so this is coffee lake h
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that was it not that i
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saw anything
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in unrelated news did we talk about the apple thing i
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don't think so um which one at the very top i don't remember and and the samsung
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yeah there's kind of boring faster memory in apple's bringing some
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money back over to the states because the states was like new laws on taxes
58:20
and they were like okay leo laporte's company is suing twitter oh uh because
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apparently they reached an agreement back in like 2009
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um because look uh leo laporte was
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concerned that twitter was going to start serving audio visual content and
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that their that their their trademarks were too similar and that twit was audio
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visual so he was like well you know we can co-exist as long as
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you guys don't serve audiovisual content but then now twitter serves video so uh
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he's suing twitter
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so that's interesting i i really do wonder where that lawsuit goes because
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isn't it an acronym for this week in tech not a word
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but um it doesn't matter because the trademark twit
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is theirs so yeah i mean i don't i don't personally
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think that most people even know what twit is
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but um i mean if you're on i believe air canada
59:19
flights and you go to the podcast section wow i believe there is a leo
59:24
laporte thing about something the savagery is real
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yeah um and on that note um thank you for watching we will see you guys again
59:33
next week same bats time same batch
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channel he does have a fair point though like they did agree not to do it and
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they are doing it so i don't know where this is especially if there's an
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agreement between them i don't know where this is going man he probably has
59:46
a lot of clout but then twitter might just have enough money to just be like
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no go away or maybe they don't i don't know depends i don't think they make money
59:54
yeah they don't make money so it depends if someone will give them money to give
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to anyway yeah bye but yeah i think because he has an
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agreement he's gonna get something
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i think it's kind of ludicrous that that's a thing at all but he has an
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agreement so apparently i always look like i'm having
60:13
a really bad time doing this i like the WAN Show i don't think you do
60:20
i enjoy the show yeah i want us to talk about meltdown you guys talked about it
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the other week right oh like AMD getting sued yeah i mean
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yeah it was one of our topics but it's it's related to that thing that i
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brought up the last time yeah but now AMD no like actually oh
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oh okay yeah oh um well maybe next week
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bye