Philips Hue is a RIPOFF

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2019-05-06 · 1,733 words · ~8 min read
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0:00 so when i sat down to review the script for this video with Jake we debated the
0:04 title for a while and finally i asked him point blank
0:07 are phillips hue bulbs a ripoff and he
0:10 goes well i'd say they're making a pretty
0:14 good profit and isn't that pretty much the problem
0:17 with all of this smart home stuff by the time you got your brand name caseta
0:22 switches nest thermostat august lock hue bulbs you're five ten grand deep in this
0:28 stuff and every time i pull out a calculator and add it up i basically end
0:32 up with yeah screw it i'm gonna find another way
0:36 and find another way we did
0:53 no not that way in today's video we're gonna be looking at smart bulbs from a
0:58 relatively unknown company called yeelight that promised to be an
1:02 affordable alternative to philips hue and lifx
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1:24 incumbents starting with the ultra popular phillips hue phillips was one of
1:29 the first players in the consumer smart lighting space back in 2012 when they
1:32 launched their system as an apple store exclusive the entire product stack
1:37 including their 800 lumen bulb makes use of the zigbee wireless standard a slow
1:43 but ultra low power mesh based network that connects compatible devices
1:47 together now it does require a hub to facilitate a connection to the outside
1:52 internet ow but the use of this tech allowed philips
1:56 to make
2:00 why why would you throw them
2:11 the use of this tech allowed philips to make devices like their tap wireless
2:15 button that can control your lights while only being powered by the kinetic
2:20 energy of pushing the buttons that is pretty damn cool
2:25 now a lot of people complain about the necessity of the hub
2:29 but even with the hubs pricing factored in the bulbs are still cheaper than our
2:34 next competitor and the added functionality seems like a worthwhile
2:38 compromise now let's take a look at the lifx ecosystem these guys are an
2:43 originally crowdfunded company one that actually shipped their product wow
2:48 and they also started out in 2012 with support for both iOS and Android unlike
2:54 hue at the time life x bulbs are wi-fi based meaning that no hub is required
2:59 but they do share some traits with the hue as they operate as a sort of mesh
3:04 with one master bulb connecting directly to your regular old Wi-Fi and the rest of
3:09 them connecting to each other via an 802.15.4
3:13 mesh network this technology makes lifx's bulbs the most efficient
3:18 and they also happen to be the brightest ones but that comes at a cost
3:23 even their minis will run you 45 bucks
3:26 each and their standard a19 bulbs weigh in at a whopping 60 dollars apiece
3:32 finally there's e-light a company we actually
3:36 don't know that much about and you might not have even heard of what we do know
3:41 is that they are affiliated in some way with xiaomi and that they have a metric
3:45 but ton of different products kind of like the philips hue ecosystem but we're
3:48 ignoring most of that because today's focus is on their smart bulbs and
3:52 specifically the RGB w1 it's similar to
3:56 the hue at 800 lumens but it costs just
3:59 shy of 18 right now on aliexpress with
4:03 no hub required that is less than half the cost of a hue bulb and less than a
4:08 third of the full-size lifx a saving that is huge all on its own and that
4:13 only increases as you purchase more and more bulbs
4:17 spec wise now it's a lot of the same with the only major differences being
4:21 the higher light output and the efficiency of the lightfx and the much
4:26 lower price of the e-light otherwise they all have the same rated life
4:30 expectancy the same warranty and the same mount type
4:34 let's talk setup then both the e-light and the live fx require an account to
4:38 control the lights at all by contrast hue works fine without an account but
4:43 only on your local network overall the setup process on all three
4:47 ecosystems is really easy with hue edging out a slight win here thanks to
4:51 its ability to add multiple lights at once and with the kit lights coming
4:55 pre-configured that's pretty nice as for the e lights we did experience
4:59 some weirdness where it would say setup failed almost every time but then after
5:04 backing out of that menu the light shows up and is fully functional it was kind
5:07 of like the setup wizard was timing out or something so if your lights still
5:11 don't show we'd recommend logging out and then back in that should fix the
5:14 issue with the light setup it's time to take a look at the apps
5:19 view features imo the most intuitive user experience
5:23 of the bunch almost all of the features are easy to access with both power and
5:28 brightness controls available on the main screen and setting up scenes and
5:32 schedules is a total breeze which also brings us to one of the app's biggest
5:36 shortcomings the lack of global scenes as well as the inaccessibility of them
5:41 scenes on the hue system are on a room by room basis meaning that if you wanted
5:45 to set both your kitchen and your living room to a specific scene you'd have to
5:50 click through two separate menus or issue two separate voice commands to
5:54 achieve that result lifx and yi light both have global scene
5:58 lighting speaking of which i guess let's move over to the lifx app
6:02 overall it's also very easy to use but i
6:06 feel like they kind of tried too hard to make the app unique and ended up
6:09 sacrificing some functionality in the process for example the color control
6:14 wheel has a super annoying design where you can only control it on one axis at a
6:19 time why are you trying to be special just
6:22 use a regular color wheel that you can just click on like everybody else i also
6:27 don't like the lack of brightness control on the main page
6:30 but i suspect this won't bother most people once they have their scenes set
6:34 up bringing us to the underdog elight their app
6:37 is a little less intuitive with some menus that are buried too deep and
6:41 several instances of unnecessary clicking but the overall functionality
6:46 is really solid with easy access to scenes and power and brightness controls
6:51 on the main pages it's also worth noting that the yeelight app has very powerful
6:56 scene control with customization of scenes available on a light by light
6:59 basis it can be pretty time consuming to set it up but it does give you a lot of
7:04 flexibility in return so considering the major flaw of the hue
7:08 app and the weird design choices of the lifx one we're going to give the win
7:11 here to yeelight for its powerful scene customization and no bs approach
7:16 last but not least we have to look at smart functionality
7:20 all three platforms have support for alexa google home yeti and if this than
7:25 that but apple users beware
7:29 as of shooting this video only lifx and hugh work with apple homekit now there
7:34 have been some rumblings of other xiaomi brands looking into homekit but at this
7:38 time the best you'll be able to find for your yeelight is some third-party home
7:44 bridge plug-in so if you're the hacky type yeah you could probably get it to
7:47 work but if you want something that just goes out of the box you'll need to pay
7:51 more for your lights or you could switch to Android
7:54 if you're an Android user any of these three are great choices
7:58 with if we had to pick a winner
8:01 i'd say for me the low cost of the ulights is
8:05 definitely going to be what finally gets me on the smart bulb train for my house
8:10 700 to do everything which i probably wouldn't do it's still a lot of money
8:14 but it's a lot less than two grand or
8:18 more with that said if you're looking for the
8:21 most efficient or the brightest lights lifx is the way to go and as for the hue
8:25 system well their saving grace is really
8:28 the accessories like motion sensors and
8:32 fancy buttons so if that kind of thing tickles your fancy then hue might be for
8:36 you can you believe we made it all this way in this video without making like a
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9:28 that wasn't my fault you drop everything
9:33 let caseta get the lights
9:37 honey did we get the lights downstairs
9:44 alexa turn on good night
9:47 okay