Linus Attempts BGA Graphics Chip Repair! - Rossmann Repair Group, New York City

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2016-05-06 · 2,728 words · ~13 min read
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0:00 so a short while ago a gentleman by the name of Ls Rossman watched my video
0:05 where I baked a video card and made a video response outlining what an idiot I
0:10 was he said a lot of bad words and a lot of mean things very often the issue that
0:14 somebody's having when they have no video or something is dead is not an
0:18 issue that you're going to fix by taking a heat gun to it by putting it into an
0:21 oven by burning it so I showed up here
0:26 in New York City at his shop to either
0:30 get an apology out of him or for him to
0:34 restate that in fact he is right and show me his super fancy soldering rework
0:40 multiple thousands of dollar setup that
0:43 is actually how you repair graphics cards or other pcbs properly let's find
0:48 out which one of those things it's going to be
1:00 okay so uh employees only means nothing
1:03 to me so I guess we'll just uh go ahead and head
1:07 inside look at all this stuff it's like Linus's Paradise broken
1:13 Max knock knock come
1:17 on so uh here we are the way I see it
1:22 there's uh there's a couple of uh there's a couple of options here you can
1:26 either apologize and say I was right and you were wrong or there's the much more
1:30 likely scenario where you show us the super cool piece of Machinery that you
1:34 use to properly repair all of this stuff
1:37 uh so this is Louis say hi to the lineus tech tips folks I'm sorry for your right
1:42 hand too oh yeah no no that's no problem
1:45 so guys this right here is where the
1:49 magic happens one does not repair pcbs in an oven one uses one of these that is
1:54 to say if one can afford it how much does one of these cost about $7,300
1:58 about 73 $100 and LS here is going to
2:02 walk us through the ins and outs of how this bad boy Works including you said
2:06 you obtained a donor board do I actually get to operate it oh yeah you're the one
2:09 who's going to be putting this on that's the whole point of having you come here was to reduce my workload fantastic
2:14 let's do it okay so I think we all saw this coming um he's not apologizing and
2:20 he is definitely showing me how to do it the real way so this right here is a PCH
2:27 that was sourced from somewhere cuz you can't actually buy this stuff directly
2:32 from the manufacturer that's one of your frustrations right incredible so maybe
2:35 it works maybe it doesn't and then behind me we've got a PCB from a main
2:41 board that was literally thrown and had
2:44 its PCH pop off so without knowing if
2:48 that works and without knowing if this works we are going to resolder this BGA
2:53 chip onto that PCB I'm going to do it
2:57 and it is not going to involve an oven and it is hopefully going to going to work but if it doesn't then that'll be
3:02 pretty fun yeah it'll be fun either way
3:05 okay so Step One is we want to tighten up these little retainers that use the
3:09 mounting screw points and without uh ruining it too hard that use the
3:14 mounting screw points on the PCB to hold it in place as securely as we as we can
3:20 next we pull out this Fancy Pants camera
3:26 so we get a live feed right here of the solder points on the main board next
3:32 step we turn on the manual vacuum right here we take our PCH we Orient it
3:37 correctly which I mean is there some guess work involved there Google image
3:41 search and try to find the GIF that's above 50x 50 pixels like I did 5 minutes
3:45 before you came here perfect so we put this sucker on the little vacuum right
3:51 there hoping that it doesn't come off there we go so we've got a ring of LEDs
3:56 on the top we've got a ring of LEDs on the bottom that makes sure we've got
3:59 great aluminum from all angles both down here and up here and then what we've got
4:03 on this display are two superimposed images so the Brown version is the one
4:08 below and the Blue version is the one above and the idea is that we use our
4:13 horizontal and vertical adjustment knobs here as well as our angle adjustment
4:18 knob right here to try to align all the
4:21 blue dots with all the brown smudges below
4:25 them uhhuh so as soon as I align it
4:28 there it stops Al lining up there feel free to step in and correct
4:33 what I'm doing at any point in time let's see you can give yourself more
4:37 light so you can see a little bit hey there we go you can zoom in and
4:40 out you got a Joys how far in can we go
4:44 I honestly can't tell but you have no way of checking if it's right until you
4:48 just yeah you don't know if it's right until you put it on I'm just looking at one corner at a time so I see that one's
4:53 the line yeah and the other this one looks okay this is a pain in the ass
4:56 this part really is just a pain in the ass so is this pretty aligned that's
5:01 pretty aligned I would say okay just get yourself a thin layer of flux on there
5:05 gloves and a for the next step we will need Z gloves so now we put uh just a
5:10 line of flux just right down the middle yeah so with the flux in place we use
5:15 this clean room wipe as you can see we are in a completely professional clean
5:19 room environment here so now we've got to check and see if our chip moved out
5:24 of alignment from messing around with it this thing messes with your eye after a
5:30 while man let me tell you are we back on
5:34 I think that's actually good okay I would say this is good okay so next we
5:38 move our light out of the way and we actually lower the
5:42 chip whoa that goes really F oh uh it's
5:45 going to stop oh jeez okay see see right now it's touching the board once it's
5:49 touching the board then you turn the manual vacuum off and then you go back
5:52 up okay so now you can move the camera around and try to get it to focus so
5:56 you're you're almost in Focus okay there you go so now we can can see the balls I
6:01 can't I can't make heads or tails of this image though you got to be kidding
6:05 me here okay the point of this is just
6:09 being able to see when the solder melts so this allows us to see under it enough
6:12 to know when we should apply heat and when we should stop applying heat to
6:16 solder the connections okay so Hit Me With Your
6:20 Best Shot you hit start and you hope that nothing blows up seriously pretty
6:25 much so at this stage we're actually ready to use the information heating
6:30 elements all around to heat the general area and then the two heating elements
6:34 on the top and bottom to solder the chip
6:37 to the PCB but it's not as simple as
6:40 just 200° C in a oven which I noticed
6:44 they have an oven this is high quality right here yeah I I noticed you you do
6:49 have computer parts in your oven was that just to make fun of me when I got
6:53 here exactly um what you do is if you want to clean them off after you're done
6:58 Ultras sonicing it you put it in here to get rid of the moisture before you do
7:01 anything like this you also have to put them in an oven at just around the
7:04 boiling temperature of water just to get rid of any of the moisture that built up
7:07 in the chips but also you get things like popcorn and there I thought I was
7:10 getting my apology after all all right so what we do here is we have these
7:15 profiles and it comes with some pre-programmed but they're not very good
7:18 so you kind of have to trial and error it or use your experience or share share
7:22 online to figure out what exactly the temperatures are for the period of time
7:27 and the ramp up and ramp down for each of those those three heating elements
7:30 and then once you've got a profile you press start and hope nothing catches on
7:35 fire and hope that the solder
7:41 melts so once they melt if the profile is set to run a little long we can
7:45 manually stop it and then start a manual cooling cycle in order to cool
7:50 everything back down to a reasonable operating temperature wow it's really hard to tell
7:56 so is it is it is it is it melted stop
7:59 so we're stopping it now we're deciding it's melted even though it's really hard to tell okay manual Cooling and now you
8:05 get to watch the balls dry okay it's important to dry off your
8:10 balls when you're done any kind of uh repair on
8:15 them so now that the cooling cycle is done we lift this bad boy up is that all
8:21 it lifts up oh there it goes then Mr
8:25 shark grabs a PCB and whoop whoop come on and put it uh that was it we're not
8:32 going to let it cool down some more I want to take a look at it first this is
8:36 the part of the class where the teacher is like you know oh this part's kind of
8:40 good but this is but your attendance is excellent the
8:45 suspense you want to look on that one hm
8:48 you want to look and see what it looks like sure yeah let's do it all right so
8:52 let's have a quick look here so what we're trying to see is whether the balls
8:57 got soldered to the pads uh your guess is much better than mine
9:02 at this point in time let's see if it works so we're just going to fire it up
9:05 and YOLO yeah so here we go Moment of Truth we're going to find out if a fan
9:10 turns yeah come on baby I Believe In You
9:14 H oh we got a flash of light
9:18 and we've got 5 volt so it's powered got
9:22 3.3 volt on another test patch yep no good oh now you have this
9:27 my my bad luck rubbed off on me
9:31 we didn't fix it but um test subject 17A
9:36 contributed to the betterment of our scientific knowledge in some way that
9:42 who am I kidding we didn't learn anything today it but uh thank you guys
9:47 very much for tuning into this episode
9:50 of how according to Lewis Rossman one
9:53 would actually fix something that had
9:57 been if it had been damaged
10:00 by you know something like micro fractures in the solder joints or
10:05 whatever the case may be because remember whether it's a GPU like I very
10:10 temporarily resurrected in the oven because that won't last very long
10:13 whether it's a GPU or whether it's something else there's a hundred things
10:18 that could be wrong with it other than that and you actually have to know
10:22 what's wrong with it before you can attempt any kind of repair so while I
10:26 actually stand by the oven method as a way to put off by buying a new video
10:29 card while you save up for another few weeks if you are completely out of
10:33 warranty and you don't happen to have a $7,500 rework
10:37 station it is not the real way to actually fix anything and I'm glad that
10:40 I got to at least try to do it properly so uh thank you very much for going
10:46 through this process with us and uh being a good sport about the whole thing
10:49 and thanks to you guys for watching whoa I transported back to our
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12:43 his channel he's got a lot of videos that are uh basically tutorials about
12:48 how to repair your stuff uh rants about Apple and the way that they lock out
12:53 small repair shops from being able to repair their products whether it's
12:56 refusing to put alignment guides on their PC whether it's refusing to
13:00 provide uh pin outs for the chips whether it's refusing to tell you what
13:03 exactly some stupid unlabeled thing is um or whether it's just their business
13:07 practice in general he's got rants about me so if you're into that kind of thing
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13:35 that started this whole controversy where I baked a video card and uh did
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13:43 this gentleman mad in the process so mad that I had to come all the way here to
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