The WAN Show: Bittorrent Sync, Cyanogenmod Phones and GUEST Jayztwocents - Dec 20, 2013
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2014-05-07
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what up y'all and welcome to the show now you'll see how rehearsed some of the
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stuff I do is not actually usually it's
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not but but because my brain had enough
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of uh had enough of a memory left in it
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in order to remember something that I said just a couple of minutes ago I was
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able to do that see because your brain had enough of a memory left in it yeah
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well you know the thing is that the thing is that when um some some
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streamers who are more eloquent than me might have more eloquence left in their
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bodies in order to exude it but I've made a lot of
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videos that was awesome so sometimes they are not as successful as they are
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other times upon which time they are
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successful all right guys welcome to the show we've got a bunch of great topics
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for you today Google has approved Cyanogen MOD phone so apparently those
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guys are no longer you know jilted lovers and are now talking to each other
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I don't know that they were ever you know lovers but they I mean they worked
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together if you get it you know working together but uh bit torrent sink looks
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like it could be the final solution to
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personal cloud so I I mean if it
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exterminates every other personal cloud solution out there I will be extremely
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pleased by that because it looks amazing
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secure private No Limits have they
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talked about cost is there going to be a cost associated with the program none
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they're saying it's free or the beta's free it's saying it's it's it's bitor
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and it's free all right because that is extremely exciting we're going to have
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Jason from Jay's 2 sense joining us shortly there's our little guest lower
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third that's a preview of that don't look too closely at it someone's going
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to scrub back and stare at it for no reason no reason just because you said
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just because I told them not to do all right go ahead what else you introduced
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some topics for a change there's been a lot of really really big what
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Acquisitions this year and one of them is going to be a Vago acquiring LSI so
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that's actually pretty big deal some people are like oh Vago just makes the
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switches in my mouse not switches sensors sensors yeah Mouse sensors no
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not so much other things too a lot bigger of a deal um and then T-Mobile is
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kind of leaking possibly information about uncarrier 4 which looks really
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interesting it ties into their other uncarrier schemes as well I just water
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on my laptop good thing I hate this laptop but unfortunately I need to use
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it for the next little while here so we're just going to blow out the water
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and hope that that works all right guys without further Ado here is the intro
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happen to need one for um someone was saying the intro works yeah I know I'm
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wondering if we might be too high bit rate for a lot of people we're too high
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bit rate some people are have like 30 megabits per second down and they're on
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low and it's buffering like crazy well that's shouldn't be because we're a
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partner so it should scale in theory yeah but I'm wondering what it scales to
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like I wonder if there's different scale levels for low depending on what your top end is I have no idea what you're
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talking about people are saying it's twitch apparently that's very possible
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that's very possible too all right anyway guys let's jump right
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into our first topic here which is going to be actually a twitch related topic so
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check this out we're going to head over to GeForce.com
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where the GeForce L experience has been
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updated so GeForce experience 1.8
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introduced Shadow play which is a way of
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using the h264 encoding Hardware built on to your Kepler based GeForce GPU so
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that is 650 TI boost and up in order to
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record your gameplay videos with a very
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very negligible performance hit now GeForce experience 1.8.1 introduces
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Shadow play Twitch streaming so there's like a video of a guy oh it's Warframe
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okay cool okay we're going to stop that now because we don't want our video to get taken down quick move it
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ah anyway okay for those of you who
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haven't been following there's like a big there's a big hubub on the YouTube
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right now for people who are uh uploading gameplay footage and getting
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Tak down notices that are taking down their videos it's sort of a big deal
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right now so my favorite thing has been when people are like I'm just going to show a little bit so it probably won't
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get taken down and then it's like well come on if you know what you're
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doing is going to get the video taken down then I don't want to hear any complaints but if you really were a
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victim here then that's a whole other thing so anyway GeForce experience 1.8.1
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now allows you to live stream so let's
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face it it doesn't have quite the same degree of flexibility that something
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like um xsplit does where you can have all these different inputs and there's
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like HDMI in here and webcam in there and you know your gameplay window there
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and so there's there's a few things that aren't really perfect about it so it's
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it's still very much in beta alt tabbing interrupts your stream for example
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there's very limited functionality compared to Dedicated broadcast software
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like xlit still no Linux support but if
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the objective is to play direct X Games
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and stream them on Twitch and do a little commentary it's so funny because
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uh I mean I love NVIDIA I heart them they're my friends but there's there's
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some pretty um there's some pretty sort of lame terminology in here enable you
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to uh blah blah blah we're updating something something and I think they
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said something like do your um commentaries or something like that no
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actually oh I must have read it wrong okay well they did fine it was me who misinterpreted it yeah I was like I
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don't remember anything being weird in there I'm going to try it in the
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Afterparty but it's going to crash when I all tab so I'll try it like once and
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then we'll just see if it works and then go from there yeah cool that's about it
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I think that's pretty exciting it's interesting because it's it's going to
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open the door to a lot more people because I know one of the big problems when my brother first started trying to
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do Starcraft casting was he tried to do it off of like a laptop while he was at
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an event and it was like oh there's quite a few people commenting that uh
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right if you're used to watching our stream on high you may want to turn it
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down because high will be a higher bit rate than usual we're on our fiber
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connection now yes we are I'm just
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wondering if it might because people that want to watch on
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high are jumping up a resolution as well so now that people used to watch on high
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they might have to go to a lower resolution because of our bit rate but
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high resolution at a low bit rate looks like ass anyway so they're probably
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better off watching at 720p I don't know I'm interested I'm interested too well
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at any rate we're ready to move into our next topic which is avago to acquire LSI
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now I have to confess that I am one of the people who I like I generally
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consider myself to be sort of in the know when it's like oh lonus what does
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tashiba know about ssds and I'm like a
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whole lot believe it or not because they manufactur n flash well I had no idea
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that aago was this big uh So within
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within the last year there's actually been quite a few things that have
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happened uh one of one of the things that happened not that long ago was
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actually LSI acquiring sand Force so that was at the time the dominant SSD um
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controller well I can't you can't call them maker because they don't they
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didn't actually Fab anything but but they own the IP and they designed yeah
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the designer the control the controller designer for most of the high-end ssds
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on the market LSI acquired them and over the last year or so we've seen The
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Branding gradually shift from sandforce to LSI sandforce to more and more
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towards LSI well now they have been acquired so avago makes all kinds of
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crazy stuff so the original article from Anon and they're talking about how they
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you know Apple devices use an LTE duplexer module and power amplifier from
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aago these chips don't generally get much attention uh they're mainly focused
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on the Enterprise side and things like fiber channel transceivers and Fiverr
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Optics and all kinds of which I guess ties well into the thing that they're
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probably best known to Gamers for which is the optical and Laser sensors in
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gaming mice but I had no idea that they were a big enough deal to acquire LSI
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crazy how they just like dropped it in cash they're like yep we're just going
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to buy you not going into debt or anything just it's kind of impressive
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when companies are able to do that yeah and they're just that much bigger that
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they're just like nope so it looks for the moment like it's going to be a
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non-destructive takeover so the LSI team
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that so remember these guys have a ton of experience with high-end storage so
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this is going to tie in potentially really really nicely with someone who
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specializes and high-end interconnects so things like fiber channel so we could
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be looking at um at at merging these
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Technologies in ways that are going to make highspeed storage um just a a gen
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this could be the next Generation in highspeed storage I guess is what I'm trying to say removing bottlenecks man
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yeah exactly removing bottlenecks is a huge thing and having these guys working
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together if the merger goes well although you know I mean you look at how
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long it took someone like AMD in ATI to
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figure out their very different corporate cultures and find a way to get
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a cohesive product that really contains elements from both teams to Market that
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being said with a lot of communication Technologies and stuff that we have now
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it seems to be a lot easier for these companies to do this and we've seen like
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a long time ago it was a lot more common for destructive takeovers right because
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of that problem Communications problems all that kind of stuff it's like well your HQ is here your HQ is there you
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want your job okay I guess you better relocate yeah we don't really care so
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don't or do whatever and that seems a lot less common now communication is a
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lot easier and there's a lot of more widespread companies and mergers that
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are being done much less destructively speaking of communications apparently
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Obama I guess the meeting's already taken place actually have you checked
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out any followup on the meeting CU I have not all right so Obama did have his
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meeting with I I heard kind of nothing came out of it so I'm not sure you can
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you can check it out but I don't think so I think if anything does it'll be not
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for a while original article was from The Verge and it's Obama to meet with
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the leaders from Apple Twitter and Yahoo today in fact there are quite a few
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Executives that Obama has committed to meet with so including Apple CEO Twitter
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CEO uh Netflix's co-founder and CEO Dropbox Yahoo Salesforce Zinga Sherpa
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concast LinkedIn Facebook Google Microsoft AT&T these are all huge
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companies and the the Obama Administration actually
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Obama himself has committed to meet with these guys to discuss um some of the
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stuff that's been going on lately with the NSA and some of the well just
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outright Data Theft from these companies
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that's been going on over the last little I mean I can't I can't imagine
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what he would have to say it says specifically what hasn't been made
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public yet is exactly how President Obama responded to Sur surveillance
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concerned so everything that people cared about hasn't been revealed yet so
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yeah we don't really know yet but I yeah
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that's kind of brutal and I'm I'm actually I had this in the notes but I'm
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happy that it happened now because if it happened a few months ago I think almost
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none of these companies would have really gone off to bat too hard but once
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they figured out that they were all being infiltrated they all got kind of
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really pissed off yeah you know surprising how many people thought that
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that open letter uh was fake
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um Microsoft can't can't remember where
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the actual thing is H Google everyone agrees just trying to I'm trying to find
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that open letter that they all wrote my colleague whatever that was in
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the paper I think I sent you that right yeah here it is
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yeah yeah here it is so uh this is from
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phonearena.com anyway Dear Mr President and members of Congress etc etc etc we
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understand you have a duty to protect the Citi sincerely AOL Apple Facebook Google LinkedIn Microsoft Twitter Yahoo
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and uh when I tweeted that out it was amazing how many people thought it was
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fake because it was just this letter that's like hey can you please like cut
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the crap and stop doing this sincerely all of us a bunch of companies that
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aren't exactly known for working together uh Twitter and Facebook anyone
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uh you know Apple Microsoft Yahoo for that matter Google and apple like
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there's there's a whole lot of this is the one thing that they seem to all be
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able to when that happens when there's a whole big group of people that fight all
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the time and then there's this giant bad guy that shows up and they're like oh
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okay let's all group together and fight that thing that's when you see the
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interesting alliances so yeah I I to me
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it's absolutely baffling that they didn't notice on their own before all of
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this went public but I guess a lot of it's when you're when you're looking at
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internal pipe traffic though like how
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much are you really analyzing that compared to external stuff like you you
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see so many different things is accessing this data you're probably not
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too worried because it's all internal stuff and you're all encrypted from the
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outside and you're watching the outside so it kind of makes sense that they might not have noticed it for a long
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time I don't know yeah all right now
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this is a pretty exciting little topic for the PC Gamers out there hopefully
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there's at least a few of those watching our stream you know what I should just
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make sure that our YouTube announcement went up because we've been having some
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problems with that lately with that just
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not going out to the viewers yes it has but it has like very few thumbs up and
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like it looks like it might not be fully published yet so that's that's brilliant
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maybe we'll do a Twitter Blitz after this one but the dual shock 4 is fully
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unlocked for PC almost this was posted by Tiger Claus 12894 on the
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Forum and it's from The pcsx2 Forum
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right here where there is AIT little bit of a breakdown from the guy who is
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working on it so go go ahead I think you have all the the details for this one so
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basically it it was working except for the touchpad the LED and uh vibrate mode
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and PS PlayStation was essenti or Sony I guess sorry it was essentially like yeah
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it works except for these things sorry someone in the community decided that
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wasn't good enough and started releasing their own hacked weird version things
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that incorporates a few different things like tricks it into thinking it's a different controller it emulates it into
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a 360 controller and like all this weird stuff which is really cool emulating
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into a 360 controller so that thinks C and things should work and then they just work that's brilliant um and yeah
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so the community is stepping up and making this thing work and it's hilarious because Xboxes doesn't yeah I
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mean it's it's it's so so you you're going to need a dongle
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for an Xbox One controller which is just unbelievable to me I mean you look at
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the versatility of Sony's implementation with Bluetooth and you can I mean I mean
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it could be better you know you look at the PS3 controller the fact that you had
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to have a rooted Android device in order to use that controller on Android like
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why why didn't you just I mean okay at
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least it's better than Microsoft where you still need a dongle they had every
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opportunity over the last eight years to
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see that Sony's solution was better this
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time just use Bluetooth use Bluetooth so
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that at least let us try to hack it
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please exactly cuz like I don't think anyone's mad about about this Sony
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giving up and just being like yeah it works that much I don't think anyone actually cared no because son's not
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stopping these guys which is the nice part which is the good part the part
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that's like thumbs up on I mean they could have done better there's no real reason why they couldn't have just had a
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PC driver so you sit down and you can game at your computer I
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mean yeah there okay it should have just worked but I don't think people are too
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up in arms that it didn't because they're allowing people to mess with it and my issue here is that how long ago
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was this okay how long ago like two or three
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weeks I think was this so this is uh this is the old article from gam
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spot this is a post on Gamespot and this
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I hate this computer okay so then it's
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redirecting me to here we go Microsoft on PC gaming we lost our way promises a
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better future so this was about six weeks ago um like okay where where's our
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where's our controller that just works natively on a computer the same way that
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it does on an Xbox that should be part of that that
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should definitely be part of that the other day actually I was at a buddy's host and he loaded up Dark Souls but
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they pulled off games games for Windows Live from like one game that's my point
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games for Windows Live was still on it and I was like oh that's
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depressing that's not good and like H I
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don't know it seems so well timed and poorly done
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time yeah that sounds about right like
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like they dropped it at a really good time where a lot of people really cared
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didn't do anything it's lip service if one part see that's the problem with
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Microsoft is they're a very fragmented company I mean there's Microsoft
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Hardware there's Microsoft software there's Microsoft consumer there's
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Microsoft Enterprise for all of the different things and it's not
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necessarily going to help you personally as a Microsoft employee to advance the
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whole company it's more your own it's
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your own department so then there's Microsoft game studios then there's
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Microsoft then there's Xbox and so there's there's all these different things and just because like one dude at
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Microsoft is like yeah we lost our way on the PC we're sorry um directx12
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will'll have more tessellation or whatever um that doesn't that doesn't
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necessarily mean that that all the Ducks are actually in a row and everyone is
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committed to making the PC a better gaming platform at least at Microsoft
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which isn't to say that valve and NVIDIA
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and AMD and all these other guys who are are just sick of Microsoft being
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completely focused on Xbox and not focused on PC at all aren't just going
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to take matters into their own hands and create an OS and an ecosystem that works
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better than Microsoft's and I personally believe very strongly that the reason
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the PC still is the dominant platform at
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least for desktop computers you can make arguments other ways in lots of other
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spaces um I think the reason that they're still dominant is because of
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gaming not because okay so to be clear I don't
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think it's because everyone just plays games on their PCS and that's the only
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reason they own them so anyone who doesn't play games shouldn't have a PC
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the reason is because I believe that Gamers particularly on the PC side tend
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to be enthusiasts so when their mom comes to them and is like son I'm buying
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a Mac they're like
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No And they stop it that doesn't mean that Mom wouldn't
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have been just as happy with a Mac or Linux or anything else for that matter
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it just means that because the enthusiasts and the Tweakers and the
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hackers that Microsoft has really lost track of how to appease are still tied
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to that platform because they want to game on it I think if gaming goes away
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those guys lose that last tie that they
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ever had to the platform and those recommendations to other people start
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changing I mean that is what these companies keep forgetting is it's not a
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about how many units of Android smartphone or Microsoft Windows PC or
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whatever the the hackable platform dour
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happens to be it's not how many of those units you can sell to this guy it's
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about how many people he goes out and influences and explains that the benefit
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of this is so great and that's why you should jump on board it and that is how
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a platform gains dominance we've seen it time and time again and then when they
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start to close down the platform it starts starts to go away and it happens
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time and time again so that I don't remember what the topic was anymore but
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anyway Jay's two cents uh we'll be joining us did you have anything to say
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sorry um there's there's a few things like the point about the like the the
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the influencer the Enthusiast that tells people what to buy is incredibly true
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and we see that constantly in every way shape or form and people just yeah just
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don't understand it it's kind of disappointing because you see that like
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something super niche will happen with a product that no one knows about but that
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product starts selling way less or way
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more because of it even if there's a few very small amount of people that know
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about it even if it's like some bloody subreddit that cares about it all of a
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sudden it's like whoa where didd that sales Spike come from yeah because these
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people are influencers and their influence goes beyond what they type on
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the internet to other people who already know about it they have real Li well
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some of them have real lives some of them have real lives and talk to real
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people speaking of a really cool feature that I actually wasn't aware of did you
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know that the HTC1 wakes up from a full
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power off to uh trigger an alarm so if your battery dies in the
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night how's it fully powered off then if your battery dies in the night so it's
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like off and you know how it usually has
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enough like it has like half a percent and it'll wake up and then it'll be like
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oh sorry it'll wake up and alarm and
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then power down trying to trying to trigger an alarm so the alarm goes off
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so it's that like clock battery in your phone or something cuz how it must be on
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in some form no cuz even like even I manually power it down yeah yeah but it
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there's got to be something still running something's going on yeah that's actually really cool yeah I don't know
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if the One Max does it yet oh speaking of which I've I'm switched over to the
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One Max for now man this thing's huge like look at it in relation to my
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hand it's like ronculus see see my hand
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Slick's hand you go it's like appropriate ridiculous anyway uh I'm
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kind of getting used to it already I've only been using it for about 4 days and
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um anyway it's it's it's it's I I don't
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remember okay right because I was talking about that feature where it wakes it wakes it up because oh right my
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wife was super mad because my alarm went
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off or something and I was like it won't happen again I turned that phone I'm not
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using CU I'm not using it I turned that I turned it off and it woke itself up at
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my normal alarm time triggered the alarm and I was like stop it and it went back
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to and it turned off again and it was like off like lock button doesn't do
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anything I'm like what I don't know if it's just that one I have I have to play
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around with it some more that's actually kind of cool because I don't care if my phone is like if I forgot to plug in my
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phone I want my damn alarm to go off cuz I don't want to miss things yeah so it's
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actually really cool yeah it's awesome I love it I think it's I think it's like crazy awesome all right so why don't we
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pull Jay onto the show I actually don't have my uh oh thank you no problem is it
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plugged into nope NOP not plugged into anything but that's okay uh oh did I
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plug into that wait what is oh the wrong ones oh okay well I'm just going to like
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deck myself out in all of the Christmas cheer today I wish I had a red one too
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to go along with my green one we should see how many pairs of headphones I can
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wear all at the same time I don't even hear anything he's not here yet and here
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we go user was moved to your hello Jay hey guys what's going on not a whole lot
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how are you well I guess we do have a lot going on we're streaming live to
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thousands of people well hello thousands of people Jay's to C here thanks for
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having me all right why don't I go ahead and put on your little guest lower third
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there and why don't you do a brief introduction you guys have been you guys
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have been asking for Jay to come on the show for about one bazillion years so
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for those of you who haven't heard of him Jay go ahead hey guys Jay St sense
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here I just do the YouTube thing like everybody else just trying to get my
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little piece of the corner there doing all kinds of PC reviews and uh custom
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tutorials and water cooling and if it has to do with a PC your Tech I'm a geek
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and it fits right in so that's what I do cool that was very concise and what
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was your uh what was your YouTube channel name it's Jay's two cents and
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that's with a z not an S and I'm no relation to Jay-Z I am not a rapper
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that's unfortunate you'd be really rich a lot of people seem surprised by that
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honestly that I me they say are you related to Jay-Z no not at all so that
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one was an accident it's funny because your ethnicity looks the same as Jay-Z's
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based on the video of VI I'm looking at right now over in this corner depends
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entirely on the lighting you know what's funny is we
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were we were filming NC Tech tips today and uh we were doing a thing about
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Bitcoin mining and I was like oh we should uh we should put like we should
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put some stuff all over my face so I look like a minor and edel's like you
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can't you can't do blackface on this show I'm like no I'm not talking about
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I'm not talking about that I'm talking about like if I was a minor and he's
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like he's like oh I see what you mean oh we probably just shouldn't do it anyway
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you could make it you could make it look like coal smears well you could make it
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look like Co I think they decided that we were just going to do it in the thumbnail so that they could control how
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coaly it looks and make sure that it didn't end up looking inappropriate and
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in un UN in insensitive that's the one
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you got there I'm having a bit of an off day today Jay you're not the only one oh my God
26:23
after the day I've had this is a welcomed pace for me tell tell us a
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little bit about about yourself what kind of day did you have today because YouTube's not your only gig correct
26:32
YouTube is a hobby I am in I am an IT engineer by day also Moonlight is an sqa
26:38
software developer quality assurance tech for a software development company
26:43
which shall remain unnamed but yeah I I wear a couple of different hats and
26:46
today is one of those days we had our company Christmas party at noon we're
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trying to head out the office at about 11:00 and we had a major power adage at
26:53
our data center and we had to rush in make sure our our cooling backups were
26:57
good to go cuz if you've ever been to a Data Center and cooling goes down it
27:00
takes about 5 minutes for everything to overheat to death five minutes oh yeah
27:05
with the amount of racks that we have in our data center in Irvine it takes about
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5 minutes from for the temperature in the room to rise about 35 deg F wow nice
27:14
racks yeah that's what she
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said had to do it sorry so oh don't be
27:22
sorry so what do you do to prevent the
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overheating at this point well data center that we have is all water cooled
27:30
um but the problem is I mean the pumps and everything stay running but the HVAC
27:34
system goes down because it's on the main grid you can't power back up an
27:38
HVAC system like that so pretty much we
27:41
have a direct line to Southern California Edison saying please get your
27:45
trucks here now before we lose millions of dollars of equipment so tell me
27:50
something cuz I mean this is this is something I again not on the same uh not
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on the same level as what you guys are doing over there but I have had um I
27:57
have had a fan failure on a water cooling system before just a PC grade
28:01
water cooling system and what the biggest problem I had there was the
28:05
pressure that built up within the lines
28:09
uh as the water heated up and heated up and began to boil because I don't know
28:13
if the viewers know this but most processors including graphics cards and
28:18
some older CPUs will actually go above
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100° before they will begin to throttle so um depending on what kind of a Delta
28:26
you normally maintain between your CPU and your liquid um you could actually
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reach liquid temperatures of near or above 100° in very very disastrous cases
28:38
and I actually had this happen once where a fitting a tubing blew off a
28:42
fitting and uh sprayed water all over the inside of a PC I don't know if I've
28:47
ever told you about this no oh it was terrible um anyway so I was wondering
28:51
when the HVAC system so to be clear guys HVAC are HVAC system refers to basically
28:56
massive industrial grade uh air conditioner that is designed to not
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necessarily condition air but in this case condition water and keep it cool um
29:05
so what I had happened was I had tubing blow off so what happens if your coolant
29:12
boils uh the coolant that we have actually is is treated in such a way
29:16
that the boiling temperature is much higher than the normal 100° C where
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water would boil kind of like a car uh but in this case what we actually had to
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do because we didn't have an ETA from the power company was we had to power
29:29
down our servers so we were running around to all of our our server consoles
29:33
trying to get all these servers powered down in the amount of time that our ups
29:36
would keep things flowing cuz even without an HVAC if water's flowing you
29:40
get a little bit of cooling but if you don't get them shut down in time they
29:44
you've seen it things will melt themselves and these these servers even
29:47
though they're all Xenon and whatnot uh they will throttle themselves but the
29:51
temperature rises so quickly they'll die before they ever throttle now I know
29:55
that with consumer grade Hardware the way that uh the way that overheating
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protection often Works nowadays like when I had that problem that was a long
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time ago the way that that overheating protection works now is usually when the
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CPU reaches a thermal limit this the whole system will power down now with a
30:13
server does it not necessarily work the same way it can but the the thing is
30:18
when you're dealing with thousands of racks in the same room the temperature
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spikes so fast that it doesn't actually have time to power down before damage
30:25
occurs genius excellent yeah so that's
30:28
why you see articles like in like last year where Google I believe was pulling
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in water from one of the natural ponds that was extremely cold where they were
30:35
getting cold water without having to actually condition it themselves I don't
30:39
know if you saw that article earlier in the year but it was pretty fascinating yeah that's very cool actually I
30:44
remember back in uh back in the days when the only Forum I really used to
30:48
troll with was extrem system.org I remember seeing an incredibly cool build
30:54
log where what this guy did was he buried I think must have been a couple
30:59
hundred feet of copper tubing um and
31:02
then he he actually had an excavator and he excavated a significant portion of
31:06
his backyard and put it down below frost
31:11
level right so it rather than go rather
31:14
than being sub subject to any kind of heat from the Sun or any kind of cold
31:19
from the uh from the frigid air above every season all all seasons it was
31:24
basically the same temperature and then he had a he had a pump a series of pumps
31:29
that on the one end that was actually running tubing or running water through
31:34
this snake of tubing buried in his yard and then up to his PC in his house
31:38
that's pretty so that's a very similar type thing did you I did and I think I
31:42
remember one of the one of the challenges was condensation because of the depth yes one of the challenges was
31:48
condensation I think one of the other challenges was actually um I don't think
31:53
he was using copper at every stage I think there was some PVC and then he had
31:56
issues with filt and like junk into it so he had to
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filter but it was a really project I was like wow I want to do that yeah I
32:04
remember people him why are you doing this and his answer was why
32:09
not indeed and you so that's that's what
32:12
I do by day and uh yeah the whole YouTube thing for me is just kind of a
32:15
Moonlighting gig just because I like it so I do
32:19
it here is the thread this is on
32:22
overclock.net so I this might actually be a different one than the one that
32:28
someone posted this and the one that I was looking at although it might be the
32:31
same one I don't even remember here let's see how old this is because if
32:35
it's this is 2010 it could just be a copy over though
32:40
could be a copy over not sure if oh yeah this might this might be the guy anyway
32:44
very very very cool project maybe it was just PVC maybe he didn't do copper maybe
32:48
I'm not even remembering it correctly either way very very very cool project
32:53
all right let's go back to our guest thing here so we haven't actually started any of our actual topics I know
32:58
we promised a Twitter Blitz to you guys earlier we will go back and we will look
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at those tweets but if you have any questions that you want to Blitz to Jay
33:06
I I don't think I ever said thanks for joining us on the show Jay thanks for
33:09
joining us on the show I'm glad you're here he no problem appreciate it ad
33:12
stream I know I know I know all right so
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let's move into our first guest topic here and this is the Cyanogen phone that
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has now been approved by Google so here's a Google Plus post um that Luke
33:27
you give us your thoughts on this first there's been some interesting stuff
33:31
cycling around this because kind of everyone thought that they were going to have to fight the man to be able to get
33:35
this to actually exist at all and then now Google's just kind of giving them
33:39
their blessing which is interesting so I'm wondering if some some talks happen
33:43
behind doors and they decided to be friends with each other but ignoring all
33:47
that because it's approved and I don't really actually know what happened behind doors the phone is really
33:52
interesting in itself it's it's have you
33:55
ever actually used an Oppo phone no I haven't me neither all right then which
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yeah I want one of these though have you looked into this at all nope the camera
34:04
is specifically interesting if you can see that right there because it can swivel I think it's
34:08
207° I should have put that in the dock but I think it's
34:12
207° and at every single point in that swivel it can lock oh so with some old
34:18
laptops especially from Acer they would have webcams in the top of the screen
34:21
that you could flip over but it was either facing at you locked or flipped
34:24
over locked this one you can kind of point it wherever you want cool this is
34:28
actually a really smart solution to the whole crappy front facing camera CRA
34:33
good because now it's one really good camera just you face it wherever you
34:37
want it to go and I guess that gives you more room for Optics as well which is
34:40
really cool oh so here they're talking about the camera so for world's first
34:44
rotating camera smartphone was the first in the world to
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release a 13 megapixel smartphone now
34:51
you've got 60 so the camera is constructed from 67 different components
34:54
featuring a 26° rotation that will firmly lock in position at angle without
34:58
shaking or moving while you frame the shot which is like pretty impressive
35:02
although all I really see coming out of this is a lot more selfies a lot more
35:06
selfies much much better selfies at
35:09
least they'll be higher quality I guess but I think there's going to be more of
35:12
them which isn't necessarily good thing I guess it depends on who you are but
35:16
that is actually pretty cool and it is a really really high-end phone f2.0 lens
35:21
wow it's kind of a big deal they're sh
35:24
flash there the camera aside I've I've always been a big fan of Cyanogen
35:28
project I was an early adopter of it back when I used Android uh that camera
35:32
is pretty awesome though I I imagine all of the front-facing blinded selfies
35:36
because the LEDs will be in your face but
35:40
hey well we have to start punishing people for taking selfies at some point
35:44
here amen I agree so what better way to do that uh keep going I like the I like
35:49
the fact that you can lock it in any position though because now you're not
35:52
if you want to use your phone for some sort of recording you can lay it flat or
35:56
or amount it to something I think it's pretty cool I would like to check this
35:59
out that's for sure this is another feature that I want to cover which is
36:03
their ouch so the idea behind this is that say you're say you're reading a web
36:07
page or on Reddit or something on your phone can we ban companies from calling
36:10
their features the first letter of their company and then Dash something s pin o
36:16
touch S Voice s voice oh my God G
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Gmail it's just way too easy um anyways
36:25
so the idea is that you can scroll through things and use your touch screen
36:30
in basic ways by actually using the back of the screen so you don't have to put
36:33
your fingers in the way all the time and I think that's really interesting
36:37
because there's a lot of websites that are being mobile optimized that are
36:40
completely ignoring the old rules that you don't put things that are interesting below the fold now things
36:44
are very scrollable because of touch screens so being able to easily scroll
36:49
through someone's website or reddit reddit is very actively looked at it's
36:53
is nice by being able to touch the back of the phone because you can use it with one hand for one big thing if it's a
36:58
really big phone like yours it's a lot harder like with a smaller phone you can
37:02
just do everything with one hand but with a big really big phone sometimes you're just holding it and you would
37:06
have to use a second hand to yeah I mean totally when things are bigger sometimes you have to use two
37:11
hands so this has a 5.9 in screen which
37:15
I do find a little bit on the big side
37:18
although what I notice about it immediately is that unlike the One Max
37:23
which has the boom sound speakers on either side of the screen what they they
37:27
have done is they've gone with a much Slimmer bezel on the one side so it should actually be overall physically
37:32
smaller so that's that's good I'm glad to see someone innovating in terms of
37:37
input rather than um doing what Samsung's doing and moving backwards
37:42
it's like yeah we can't really figure out what else to do with our high-end phone so uh here's a
37:47
stylus but don't worry you can like you can draw a little calculator on your
37:52
screen with it I do like that did you
37:55
use it it's interesting I I I could have swore I saw something last year saying
37:59
that apple had filed a patent for the rear touch display so is this going to be another lawsuit on Apple Tans oh god
38:05
oh potentially actually I mean it never
38:09
seems to really end with those guys so
38:12
nope more pent Wars I think smartphones
38:16
have been kind of stale the last couple of years so I'm really looking forward to somebody to come and shake things up
38:21
you know what you're one of the you're one of the people that I think I would
38:25
agree with about this whole thing because my my when I first got my iPhone
38:29
4 I looked at it and I went well this does everything I could possibly want
38:33
that without some kind of a huge paradigm shift this does everything I
38:37
could possibly want to do with a phone the only issue with the iPhone 4 now is
38:41
that iOS has gotten so heavy that it runs like an absolute dog um on the
38:46
iPhone 4 but when it when I got it I swear I was never dealing with any kind
38:51
of laggy text input that's for sure so there is something a Miss uh with with
38:56
the iPhone for hardware and software that is making some seriously bad things
39:00
happen with it I haven't seen I I
39:05
haven't seen some kind of huge amazing innovation in the last little while I
39:08
mean what what what do you think will absolutely help
39:14
this gosh you know I don't I've been thinking about that myself especially
39:18
since in working in it we're constantly dealing with new devices and I I think
39:24
this is the first year I've not purchased a new smartphone for the year
39:27
I normally am an annual upgrader of some sort but I think I'm really looking
39:31
forward to some of the technology that we looked at last year at CES with the
39:35
transparent displays I would love to see something like that but again I think
39:40
technology in the smartphone Arena has moved so fast that they kind of outpaced
39:44
themselves and not to mention all the lawsuit tobaccos over the last couple of
39:48
years have really slowed down technology so everyone wanting to be you
39:53
know the patent holder of this or that has stalemated the entire industry as
39:57
far as I'm concerned those patent Wars have gotten pretty ridiculous I mean you
40:01
and then you look at something like the wearable space where there's so much
40:04
Innovation left and it's so much more usable I mean the smartphone is great
40:10
but I mean Apple's whole laughable thing where it's like you can't make anything
40:14
that looks like an iPhone well okay but
40:18
it's just it's a thing with a screen on one side and not on the oh we could have
40:21
a smartphone with screens on both sides there we go like that's okay but a we
40:27
those actually I think they're releasing run in Russia or something and no one cares how do you make a smartphone that
40:32
isn't a screen on one side buttons around the edge or in the case of the G2
40:38
o buttons on the back and you know
40:41
cameras I think I'm really looking I was at Samsung's keynote last CES regarding
40:46
the their foldable Tech their bendable screen I I would love to see some of the
40:50
concepts they showed on that come to fruition you know with the folding
40:53
tablet or the wallet phone something like that cuz right now I look at what's
40:58
being done with uh flexible displays and curved curved displays in particular as
41:02
a very evolutionary step I I see I see
41:05
something like the G Flex um as just
41:09
because we can not as because this is something
41:13
that people actually need or actually desire
41:17
yeah yeah it's definitely cool Tech but I don't think it would be quickly
41:23
adopted you know because I think part of it is you're going to be dealing with
41:26
soft soft materials on the screen which could potentially scratch really poorly
41:31
yeah yeah that's actually a very good point all right our next guest top
41:37
actually let's do your why don't we do your guest Twitter Blitz here so let's
41:40
see if we have any uh any excellent questions for you here all right playing
41:45
Twilight Princess on my PC while watching the stream also the bit rate is
41:49
good source quality looks golden thank you Darren no drop I agree it looks
41:52
great this week uh the mighty Noob says
41:55
just started watching your channel Jay and loving your content hey thanks I
41:59
appreciate it uh apparently Blackberry has had the powered off alarm for a long
42:03
time and Starbucks says that's one of the things that he or she missed when
42:07
apparently someone has had that since
42:10
early 2000 with noas from the 9s cool all right I don't see many
42:16
questions for Jay here so we might have to come back to these ones later and uh
42:21
hopefully there's uh there's a few here blah blah blah blah blah lots more
42:25
comments about the the bit rate and uh
42:28
okay well why don't we just move into our next topic for now guys if you have
42:31
any questions for Jay please do post them Intel reportedly eyes future 18
42:38
core Broadwell chip for Zeon well yes in
42:43
fact their their picture here really indicates the uh kind of investigative
42:47
journalism about it Hardware that might perhaps go on at certain unnamed sources
42:52
for this particular article
42:57
as a as a guy who builds servers I am
43:00
particularly interested in that especially if we can if that means we
43:03
can have less physical servers and more VMS due to the extra cores I would be
43:07
extremely happy with that all right talk a little bit about because for gamers in
43:12
particular well okay particularly before AMD mantle comes into play which will
43:17
happen I mean well okay dice said December so they still have 11 days but
43:23
we'll see I I wonder about how hard the developers are working on the 24th the
43:28
25th the 31st and the 1 so so that's
43:31
four days out of the next 12 that probably are kind of writeoffs but um
43:36
anyway so in theory Mantle's coming soon and that's going to help Gamers leverage
43:40
multiple cores but on the desktop we we have kind of looked at what Intel's been
43:45
doing lately with reduced power consumption and the capability of adding
43:49
more cores although they haven't bloody well given us any in the last couple
43:53
iterations here um and the capability of adding more cores and we've kind of gone
43:56
okay yeah that's interesting but we don't really care whereas in the HPC
44:01
space or in the server space this is a huge deal for you so talk about what an
44:05
18 core chip means to you well when when
44:08
you build virtual machines you're basically taking resources from the
44:11
hardware on the server and allocating it towards digital computers so you have
44:16
one physical computer or server where you create multiple virtual machines all
44:20
doing separate tasks and they can be different servers entirely doing
44:24
different things so the stronger the processor and the more memor re
44:27
allocated to it allows you to do a lot more in in a smaller physical space but
44:32
once again when you deal with that type of of threading or that many cores in
44:36
one you know package you're going to be dealing with a lot of heat as well um
44:40
but as a server guy I would think that exponentially we would have a lot less
44:43
heat if we had smaller packages that can do more rather than having more packages
44:47
putting off massive heat into the air so
44:50
I was looking at that article and thinking of it about it from a gamer perspective um I don't think it means a
44:55
whole lot for gamers obviously I mean we're barely catching up to four core
44:58
and eight core possibilities or 12 core um if you're on x79 but I think just
45:04
like we were dealing with in the late 2000s you know Hardware is still
45:08
outpacing the threading capabilities of the developers so I don't think gamers
45:12
are going to benefit from this whatsoever yep and I mean I think this
45:16
is just more reinforcement that Gamers Intel has no plans to stop with the
45:23
whole we're just going to add more cores and make them more power efficient and
45:28
we are not going to increase clock speeds and we're not going to increase
45:32
per core performance plan that's not going anywhere so um there you go guys
45:38
Intel is more focused on the bigger picture of where compute performance
45:42
needs to go in the future and uh less less focused on individuals playing
45:47
video games at the same time there a lot more video games recently have been GPU
45:51
bound instead of CPU bound which is why the GPU game is still so exciting and
45:55
there's still so much war going on but I have to look at that and go well
45:59
the GPU developers probably know that Intel and AMD for that matter I mean
46:03
look at AMD they just knocked high-end uh dedicated CPUs completely off their
46:08
road map I mean they're just not that into it
46:11
anymore really I'm really concerned with what the the TPU is going to look like
46:16
on the overclock side especially for the 8 and 10 cores because everything I do
46:20
is overclocked it has to be and I was really disappointed with the way Haswell
46:24
turned out regarding the temperatures so
46:27
I'm wondering what this is going to do as they add more physical heat in there
46:30
as well well you know what I think we're going to get to the point very very soon
46:35
actually one of the things that I saw in Intel's rumored upcoming I think it was
46:39
an 8 Core Extreme Edition but their entire upcoming LGA 20 whatever it is
46:45
anyway the replacement for LGA 2011 201
46:48
Haswell Haswell e the uh the rumored the
46:51
rumored upcoming refresh was that these chips are going from 130 watt tdps to
46:56
140 Watt tdps which means that if you
46:59
start to get higher than about 140 Watts I mean look at something like the uh I
47:05
can't even remember what the stupid thing is called the 9590 yeah AMD
47:10
9590 uh TDP that chip basically required
47:14
liquid cooling that had a 220 watt TDP
47:18
so as we start to get above sort of 150 180 Watts we're going to be requiring
47:23
liquid cooling even on the desktop and that is going to be a huge huge problem
47:29
for overclockers who are not installing triple radiators into their machines yep
47:34
yep I had an 8350 that I overclocked to 5.14 at its highest and the temperature
47:38
output on that was just massive I mean I was running a a triple end a double rad
47:44
uh 45 mm thickness and was still hitting the edge of that thermal uh limit to
47:49
where I was uncomfortable with it and had to back it off but yeah I mean I I
47:55
get the power efficiency I get that they want to have you know twoin one
47:58
capability with their new Chips um but enthusiasts like me I you know I'm
48:03
willing to cool it if necessary but I I want to make sure that we're not going
48:06
to be dealing with these low overhead capabilities like we're we were seeing
48:10
with Haswell I I get a lot of flack from people from staying on Ivy bridge but i'
48:14
I mean I've got a chip that's a Golden Chip and I won't move away from it until something really lures me I'm on Sandy
48:19
bridge and have no problems with it at all I mean to put this in perspective
48:23
I'm on Sandy Bridge e um so I'm on LG
48:26
2011 and I was literally holding an ivy
48:30
Bridge e chip but it was in its box so I
48:34
had my CPU out of my socket because I was doing a motherboard Swap and I just
48:38
had to open the box on the ivy bridg e chip in order to move to that one and I
48:44
was like too much effort exactly cuz there is no benefit
48:49
even so Sandy to Ivy ivy to Haswell we haven't really for overclockers we
48:53
haven't really seen a benefit and I mean how much of this a direction do you
48:57
think is and the move away from sort of
49:01
appeasing the Enthusiast and you know looking for the solutions providers and
49:06
how you can work with those guys do you think has to do with apple I mean look
49:09
at the Mac Pro how much of Intel's intention of providing something like uh
49:14
you know a 12 Core 10 core um workstation chip as opposed to just a
49:19
server oriented chip um how much of that has to do with Intel's move towards
49:24
we'll know workstations in the future are going to be this they're going to be
49:27
this garbage can shaped thing and they're going to have one CPU in them
49:31
and we're not going to do that whole dual CPU thing anymore so guys you better find a way to put more cores on
49:37
an individual CPU I mean I think Mac Pro
49:40
with Broadwell is going to be an incredibly compelling little
49:45
can right and potentially with something like the Mac Mini where you're getting
49:48
much p a lot of power in much smaller formfactor I I do think Intel is more
49:52
concerned with form factor than like you said those dual chip Solutions which are
49:56
server systems yeah definitely as we see
50:00
Power draw go down and mobile Intel chips become much more yeah speaking of
50:04
Broadwell Intel saying that we could be looking at or well the okay rumored
50:08
rumored uh the rumor is that we could be looking at Broadwell chips as low as 4.5
50:12
Watts so we could be looking at everywhere from 18 core server chips
50:16
down to 4 and 1 12 watt tablet chips on the same basic architecture which is uh
50:21
pretty exciting it's really awesome for certain form factor like Jay was just
50:24
saying it just has nothing to do with gamer and overclockers no it just really
50:28
has me wondering where the future goes from there I mean we've seen this trend
50:32
so many times in Tech where things get smaller and smaller and now just like
50:35
the faets were're back to going bigger and bigger so when is the cycle going to
50:39
repeat uh wearables right there yeah yep
50:43
it's already happening and we'll make those smaller
50:46
and smaller and smaller until we want to turn them into fashion statements and
50:50
then they get bigger and bigger mind you I think that's happening already because
50:54
one of the um the wearable bra uh no not the wearable bra yeah oh when those get
50:59
bigger that's definitely a good
51:02
thing well come on I had to make the joke um oh no no the thing that I was
51:07
actually going to talk about was the Neptune Pine so this is the uh the
51:11
Smartwatch Kickstarter actually 26 hours to go and I'm not necessarily
51:14
recommending to back this thing guys because I think it's stupid but I I
51:18
backed it so that I could get one so that I could do a video of it so we could show you that it's stupid um but
51:23
this thing looks absolutely ridiculous I mean look at the thing it's supposed to
51:27
be a smartwatch and the GU using it like
51:31
like it's it's not that much smaller than iPhone 4 I was actually marveling the other day that my iPhone 4's screen
51:36
area is literally 13 of the One Max like
51:42
if you take the thing and you put it if you put it portrait next to the
51:45
landscape One Max it it it almost lines up screen for screen and it's about
51:50
three of them um so I mean these Trends
51:53
are it's like they're happening at like hypers speed now smaller faster we're we
51:58
haven't even released anything yet but we're going to make it smaller and then bigger and then smaller
52:02
again
52:05
yep eventually they'll come up with the Fallout style huge yeah ARM things like
52:10
armband things with curved displays and you're just like so you can have
52:15
multiple conversation Windows open with different people like I'll keep you on
52:19
my bicep so you can enjoy that there we go perfect I would love to spend a day
52:23
in just in one of these think tanks at these companies to see where they really are trying to take technology cuz I
52:28
honestly feel like some of these companies are truly lost where they they
52:31
have no idea what they're going to bring us now I I think Samsung's always like
52:36
that yeah I would agree more plastic it's like well we'll just
52:40
release like every phone and then the ones that sell well we'll we'll tweak
52:45
those and then release them again and then we'll release them as a camera and
52:49
then we'll release them as a watch and then we'll release them as like
52:54
Underpants if we can get side to where Underpants then the smart underwear
52:58
smart underwear tells you when you got to go it tells you when you already went
53:02
tells you when you should dance that that wake up alarm on it vibrating alarm
53:07
s underwear you ate too much start
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dancing oh boy but but but then again
53:14
you know this this whole unknown is kind of what makes it exciting at the same
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time too but every now and then there are those companies that come out with something that they hype up like crazy
53:21
and you just go what what what why did
53:24
you possibly think this I'm sorry what were you think like I I think I think Galaxy Gear is
53:29
just a complete disaster I think Samsung did it so they could
53:33
be so they could have something on the market I mean I think I okay this is
53:38
sort of the cynic in me but I think they're just releasing it with as many
53:41
features as possible so that if there's any kind of a patent dispute later they
53:45
can be like well no we already had it like we brought it to Market we did this
53:49
so that they can just sit and they can have this stupid product on the market
53:52
that makes no sense and then they can wait for Apple to release the eyewatch
53:55
and then they can make like as few tweaks as possible to gear so that it's
54:00
not a copy but it's like an iteration of gear but so that they can actually just
54:03
clone eyew watch all the marketing is actually just so the judge can find the evidence that it exists yeah that that's
54:09
what I think which which takes us to the bigger problem at least here in the
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United States is just how many patent trolls there are yeah and companies
54:16
wouldn't have to do this if they weren't concerned about the patent trolls if the laws actually protected the innovators
54:20
and not the copywriters on the other hand the flip side of that is if you
54:24
have a great idea what can you do if someone like an apple or someone like a
54:29
Samsung flat out just decides to steal it because yeah I yeah I I it's so
54:35
frustrating to me because it's the problem is then you patent the idea and
54:40
you never it never comes to fruition you have this great idea sitting on the shelf because the guy who patented it
54:44
couldn't make it happen so it is a double-edged sword and yep it really
54:49
staying say but because none of these companies are willing to collaborate
54:53
with each other well they all are bitter enemies no one works together either
54:56
yeah we need more giant alliances like the DVD alliances okay but the problem
55:01
with giant alliances is that then you end up with Wall-E I know and then it's
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just like cuz as far as I can tell if Costco and Amazon merged they would
55:10
basically just call themselves The by and large and they they would be that
55:14
Corporation they could totally do it they could totally do it because there
55:18
would be this oh my God imagine Amazon show rooms inside of
55:23
Costco I just peed myself I know imagine you could get free shipping from Amazon
55:28
if you just shipped it to a Costco and picked it up I okay imagine if the
55:32
entire top of a Costco warehouse was like Amazon drone area oh my so you
55:38
could order things to the Costco because Costco is so good at like bulk Logistics
55:44
and and pricing and all of these things and customer service and like Amazon is
55:49
so good at these things if they just kind of got together and we're like yeah
55:53
we're just going to crush everything cost
55:57
I'll tell you what's frustrating especially with Amazon is I live I can
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see out my front yard about 2 miles away there's a brand new 1.5 million foot
56:05
Costco shipping warehouse distribution center on the west coast sorry you said
56:09
Costco did you mean Amazon I I'm sorry I mean Amazon yeah yeah okay and I can see
56:12
it in fact I have a family member who works there yet I can't go pick anything
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up and I still have to pay full price shipping even though it literally never
56:20
it goes from a van to my door they use like a third party carrier that's local
56:24
and they still charge me for full price for shipping and you can tell when it's
56:28
local because I'll have it'll be 4:00 in the afternoon and it's giving me another
56:32
9 hours to order it to have it by tomorrow so it's obvious it's right down
56:35
the street but they don't give me the option to pick it up so that's
56:38
incredibly frustrating and I would love to see drones in my area because I live
56:42
in a high wind area and I can imagine the amount of injuries that'll come of that because of out of control
56:47
drones I think we're a long way away from the Drone thing I'm I'm in the this
56:51
was a marketing stunt Camp I'm excited for it and I think it'll happen but not
56:55
for a lot long time it's a long way away and I think I think what's more likely
57:00
to happen in the more near term is pickup Depot this was actually one of
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the things that I really wanted to see happen at NC uh when I worked there I
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wanted rather than focusing on larger more beautiful stores what I wanted was
57:13
I don't know if anyone ever shopped at like the old NCI on Broadway in
57:17
Vancouver if anyone on the stream ever shopped there that place was horrible um
57:23
the front of the the storefront was like
57:26
covered in like ugly Tech posters and there was like a counter and then there
57:31
was like the place where I would always hang out cuz I was always like going there with my computer to like
57:36
troubleshoot things and I'd like borrow tester parts from the R department so I
57:40
could like try things and then I'd like buy stuff based on what worked and
57:44
anyway um but they had like this old horrible Dusty PC and an acrylic case on
57:49
the right and then they had like cases and printers all over the front of the
57:52
store and then in the back they just had storage and that that is what I would
57:57
have loved to see for an
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etailer tons of them tons of little okay
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there's a little like Tech area where you can get some service done and people
58:08
can come in and like troubleshoot things and they can swap out parts and then buy
58:12
things um a little bit of limited inventory of like like my my concept for
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this was two Brands per category period
58:21
no matter what okay so video cards we stock EVGA we stock XFX that's it memory
58:27
we stock Corsair we stock Kingston that's it or whatever it doesn't have to
58:31
or whatever but the point is two Brands per category and then you can special
58:35
order anything so you'd have you'd have
58:38
like like basically two trucks that just cross the country you know every week
58:43
and go like this and then just do pickups and drop offs at each location
58:48
as needed so you could have anything Shi for free anywhere if you're willing to
58:51
wait a maximum of six days or five business days or whatever it is I think
58:56
that is the future more than something like drones that's what I liked about NC
59:00
so much that's the only only real reason why I pretty much only buy things from
59:04
ncx is because I don't have to pay shipping I get it shipped to an ncx
59:07
location and then just go pick it up screw paying shipping well you know
59:10
Amazon has that locker system but I don't trust it because when I looked at
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the local Lockers in my area one of them I kid you not was
59:18
7-Eleven it wow yeah yeah I didn't understand it so I there was no way I
59:22
was even going to try it but 7-Eleven was a locker pickup I had I didn't even
59:26
know that was possible yeah I had no idea it's almost like if you're willing
59:30
to allow us to ship stuff to your location and you'll stick it in the back we'll pay you that's what it seemed like
59:35
to me yeah that's sketchy in my opinion
59:38
not super down for that someone says private little PC stores have tried that
59:42
idea the price markup is too high how have private how can little PC stores
59:46
try that idea the whole idea is that you have a national chain massive scale yeah
59:52
that's that's not how the idea Works NC does that yeah n does that I just wanted
59:57
to see more locations and smaller and just everywhere that's why I said I
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liked doing it it's cuz it was an option anyway all right so let's move into our
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last big topic here which is bit Torrance
60:11
sink wow this is amazing personal cloud you know what Jay why don't I let you
60:16
kick us off on this one because you must have a lot to say about this you you
60:20
know it it's scary to me just because a
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lot of the immediate thoughts that go along with the word bit torrent to have
60:27
my data traveling and funneling through them when the whole bit torrent thing
60:31
all about in the beginning was piracy so I don't know how much I would trust it I
60:36
like the fact that it the space is only limited by your own personal space and
60:40
the bandwidth is only limited by your own personal bandwidth right and and I
60:44
thought that that that concept is great but I don't know if the person trying to
60:48
Market this is the right person I mean the whole bit torr thing just scares me
60:53
bit torr's been trying to change their name for a long time though and they're changing what they're developing as well
60:57
so they're doing sync and they're doing chat systems and they're kind of moving
61:00
away from their idea which kind of goes to show
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though the the reputation they've already created for themselves when when
61:10
my first reaction is bitorrent oh I'm I'm concerned about security that how
61:14
many other people have that same reaction to it but what part in bit torent are you worried about security
61:19
with the fact that they have piracy ties with being utilized for piracy or people
61:25
actually being able to break in um I think when you have a community
61:30
that in the past has been pretty much all having to do with piracy I think
61:35
immediately the thought that goes along with that is people TR trying to break
61:38
in as that's just what they do that's the way I feel about it form it's
61:43
because most people that are using torrenting applications aren't the
61:47
people cracking things they're people acquiring the things that were cracked
61:51
by someone else so I think it's a different type I'm not saying you're
61:54
wrong I just I think it's a different type of pirate it's not it's not people
61:57
hacking lines it's people hacking software so they can release it for free
62:01
my personal opinion though is I don't I don't store anything on the cloud and I
62:04
know this isn't cloud storage but they are still we're using Cloud funneling uh
62:09
almost like a pointto point to your own personal network but I don't I don't
62:13
like my information traveling through these unsecured networks that I have no
62:17
idea where they are so I personally have my own vpns and I have my own access to
62:22
my networks but then again I'm I'm on a geek level that the average consumer
62:27
isn't going to be on right so and if if someone's the average consumer and still
62:30
worried about that kind of stuff they can take other precautions too it's not perfect nothing will be perfect but uh
62:35
like something you can do is uh encrypt your stuff before you send it like
62:39
encrypt your stuff before you put it in a sync folder because then it's at least
62:43
slightly more secure so is man I'm just
62:46
wondering how many average people would know to do that or even know how to do
62:49
that even with simple tutorials or tools yeah but then how many average people
62:53
are going to be transferring data across these sync lines that is like
62:57
super worried if they lose it I kind of feel like this is the future of storage
63:01
though I mean I think we're really looking at so much being on the you know
63:07
the interweb and interets and these these different cloudfunnels and uh
63:11
these point-to-point Services I think I think we we are inevitably going to have
63:16
security holes and and issues in there I mean Target alone this week right 40
63:21
million credit cards lost yeah yeah and they are and they have massive massive
63:25
massive third party companies constantly trying to break their system to find
63:28
these holes yet it still happened but because they're a giant Target as well
63:32
my mom isn't a giant Target oh um no but
63:36
like if when you look at something like how when Adobe got cracked they got
63:40
cracked because they're this giant actual honey pot with real honey in it
63:45
um of things that you can get if you break into it if you're it's it's not as
63:50
common for someone like my mom to get attacked it's more common for that so
63:53
personally like it's it's obviously what risk do you want to take in this
63:57
situation it's not there isn't a perfect solution but I didn't get a chance like
64:01
this I didn't get a chance to research it fully in depth but my question is
64:06
where's the Hub and can somebody somehow
64:09
monitor that Hub that with malicious intent I don't think it's based off of a
64:15
hub because I think based on their technology it's going through your own
64:19
lines so it I don't think it's ever interfacing with bit torrent servers
64:23
it's going through your own lines I I'll have to definitely research that more
64:27
because I'm curious as to how they can establish that connection without seeing the data I don't think there's a ton of
64:33
information yeah there's not a ton yet um it's just a basically they've got the
64:38
informational page up so guys I'll just show this to you right here so your data
64:42
belongs to you as their whole thing if everything they say here is true so
64:47
access your files everywhere create sync folders open on any computer phone or
64:51
tablet access docs photos etc etc etc um
64:56
never stores your files on servers so they stay safe from data breaches and
64:59
prying eyes send and sync without speed limits and free if all of this ends up
65:05
being true then we have one revolutionary concept on our hands if
65:09
any of it isn't then it might be just another me too but the one thing that I
65:14
can say about bit torent to I guess um
65:18
you know yeah the word has become synonymous with piracy but that's just
65:21
all it is it's a word um bit torrent has
65:25
legit imate uses and we actually used it
65:28
not that long ago for something that I looked at and I went this would be
65:31
absolutely impossible or extremely costly without bit torrent and that was
65:36
when we did our capture um our gameplay capture and image quality comparison
65:40
between a bunch of different consoles and I was looking at it going how the
65:45
hell are we going to send out these multiple Gigabyte files to all the
65:50
hundreds of people that are going to hit them all at once and the answer was bit
65:55
torrent it was incredibly easy everyone was getting great download speeds and
65:59
having this peer-to-peer Network um really a
66:03
validated the the protocol to me it's being able to see that an individual
66:08
like myself could just go okay let's like make something happen let's get a
66:12
file out there that is that is a legitimate file that has nothing to do
66:15
with any kind of piracy just so people can see it and compare image quality is
66:19
great and if they can take that um if
66:23
they can take that distributed sort of approach and that that decentralized
66:28
approach and apply it to things like the security of my personal files or my
66:33
personal chats I think that's fantastic because I the public cloud makes me
66:37
extremely uncomfortable I don't store anything um I don't store anything very
66:43
personal there because um just the fact
66:47
that it's never actually deleted is is very very disconcerting to me so I do
66:52
use a personal cloud I probably don't have one that says secure as what you're
66:56
doing but I would make the argument that it's certainly a hell of a lot better
67:00
than a public cloud and if this is at least that much better than public Cloud
67:05
even if it's not as good as the very best thing you could build on your own
67:08
with a whole lot of networking knowhow then I'll settle for that yeah I I I
67:13
agree with you 100% on that I it's definitely sounds like one of the you
67:17
know legit service that's been abused because of the fact that being a
67:20
peer-to-peer allows people to abuse that sort of system uh but if this gives
67:24
people like you said the freedom to be able to securely transfer files from
67:28
their own networks to I mean let's say next month there's something very
67:32
important you guys left back at the studio on that machine and you need get
67:35
right in there through bit torrent pull it to yourself I can see the benefits of
67:38
that and this is something I'll definitely research and maybe even try out and and give some information on
67:43
myself but yeah I've been I've been off of the consumer level Point too and
67:47
peerto peers for so long now I'm not as in touch as I'd like to
67:51
be yeah and I mean one other like huge
67:54
application for this is in in spite of these things getting larger the storage
67:57
on them seems to keep not getting larger my data plan in the last 5 years has
68:03
gone from I think I used to have oh it was something stupid like 500 Megs and I
68:08
have five gigs now running right now yeah so in another five years if I'm
68:11
able to get a 10x scale get 10x scaling on that again and I can have 50 gigs a
68:16
month having something in a little personal bit torant Cloud where I can
68:21
have all of my files at my home
68:24
replicated to my office and then accessible anywhere where I have you
68:28
know LTE 5 or Whatever It Is by that point that'll be fantastic that is a
68:33
future that I can that I can get into so the the workings of what he was just
68:37
explaining is you can have things automatically syncing everything so
68:40
they're just always mirroring each other or you can have it where you can
68:44
selectively download things or just remotely view them so you don't have to
68:48
use all the storage on your phone and you can do that by user groups or you
68:51
can do that by individual folders or whatever else you want it looks amazing
68:55
it just has to be awesome and the P2P nature of it is a nice little security
69:00
outer yeah I and I do like you said about the you know the data plans and
69:05
and the amount of bandwidth it's unfortunate that so many carriers and
69:08
and because let's face it if we're talking mobile we are going to be at the mercy of whatever our carrier's plan is
69:13
yep that everyone's gone away from unlimited you know the the speed got
69:16
faster everyone's bandwidth has grown yet they found a way to Market To Us by
69:19
giving us limited data caps which I don't know how it is in Canada but I
69:23
know here we've I was on an unlimited plan for 9 years before I got stuck on a
69:28
cap plan simply because I wanted a newer phone yep so I could see a system like
69:34
that if you don't set it up just right just wrecking your cell Bill y but then
69:40
like we said you can selectively download things you can have it so that
69:43
it can see everything but doesn't sync any of it and then remotely access it or
69:48
just not sync it at all all right so let's go to Jay's Twitter Blitz before
69:52
we uh before we move on to our other topics Jay can I create virtual machines
69:56
and run them at the same time for example one Ubuntu One Windows and
69:59
display them on two different monitors absolutely in fact you can display them
70:04
on any uh remote desktop as well in fact we don't even have monitors hooked up to
70:08
these machines they're just a box that then you remote into different IPS and
70:12
their virtual machines on that system so you could have as many virtual machines
70:16
as you want as long as you have the hardware to allocate to it awesome
70:19
Amazon oh oh okay um someone says Amazon should open up small pickup shops that
70:24
only serves as a pickup spot where Works fber big companies here in Denmark okay
70:27
yep yeah that is what we were talking about agreed
70:31
um where do the world okay someone says
70:35
working at an Amazon warehouse it's pretty disappointing that I can't pick
70:38
up my own order and walk out with it it's right there so it's not just you
70:42
Jay and it may end up coming from a different state um Evan says Jay do you
70:48
think that AMD will try to pick up the enthusiasts that Intel has left behind
70:52
on the desktop overclocking side I think they are already have just based on the
70:56
radan move a radon move with getting in bed with the developers especially
71:00
Battlefield 4 everyone now is seems
71:03
they're going pro AMD which just six months ago if you had AMD you were kind
71:06
of ridiculed yep um I run a Home Server
71:10
do you or Jay know a good app that lets me manage the files on it from the W do
71:15
you how do you do it for yours do you do you okay math Mathes or oh I'm sorry I
71:20
don't know how to pronounce that if you specifically run Windows Home Server then you'll do that through a brows
71:25
but if you're talking a kind of Home Server then we'd have to know what kind
71:29
it is I think yeah not enough info sorry man post on the that that 140 characters
71:35
people will help you all the acronyms
71:38
Tobin contributes ASUS Samsung HTC are
71:42
all just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks smartphone saturation
71:46
equals desperation I would make the argument that HTC hasn't done that as
71:49
much the one the one was the one and they did it for a long time and they're
71:54
starting I mean now there's and the One Max which is like one but
71:57
it's like bigger didn't we see something last week about an ASUS phone uh the pad
72:02
phone I think they only have a couple phones though and they're not available
72:05
here so we don't really get much exposure to them I I thought yeah my my
72:09
wife actually linked me something talking about an ASUS phone with their own OS but it still runs on Google so I
72:15
don't know I didn't really look at it hope she's not watching M strand says
72:19
Jay do you like mycloud from WD or is a dedicated tubay Nas preferred with some
72:24
kind of custom software setup if the dollars are similar well the Nas is
72:29
always preferred because you have full control over it but if you want Simplicity then going with something
72:33
like that mycloud would be just fine for the for the normal
72:37
consumer I mean you got to remember guys I'm I'm dealing with terabytes of
72:41
traffic a day
72:45
right uh someone says lonus I heard this
72:49
AMD does not do desktop CPUs anymore thing was related to a fake road map I
72:53
could be wrong no you are wrong um AMD is still doing desktop CPUs they're not
72:58
doing am3 desktop CPUs everything will
73:01
be an APU I what I meant was dedicated CPUs so those are going to be gone and
73:07
it will be all apus with Graphics cores on board all right one more question
73:11
here we go um uh yeah it's not that
73:15
great of a question sorry there's okay you can you can uh you can post on the
73:18
for about that Rob uh Brian says Jay
73:22
just saw your video on the CM stacker do you think a potentially large casee is
73:27
really that viable of an option seems seem uh with the way that things seem to
73:32
be moving towards manyi ITX and and smaller form factors well let me be
73:37
clear um the stacker in itself the 935
73:40
is not that big of a case it's just a mid Tower it just becomes gigantic as
73:44
you start stacking 915s on the bottom or the top yeah it's kind of ridiculous at
73:49
that point yeah I mean I've got the top and the bottom and I stuck it next to
73:52
the 900d and it was massive but I did find that it lacked in a little bit on
73:57
depth uh depending on the applications that you're doing if you're trying to do
74:00
custom 480s um but you know I don't I
74:03
think there's always going to be those guys who love their ginormous case like my 900d and there's going to be those
74:07
who love you know their node or or some sort of a shuttle PC I I think it's I
74:12
think both are perfectly well suited towards those who desire that size I I
74:17
don't think I don't see the a paradigm shift towards small PCS although that
74:21
may change now with the steam box and the Steam OS but then I don't
74:24
necessarily think the big ones will disappear I just think there will be a lot more of smaller ones
74:30
right all right well I think that's pretty much it for our guest segment Jay
74:34
you were awesome thank you so much for coming on the show if you can just give
74:38
the viewers out there a quick reminder about how they can find you on the
74:41
interwebs if they enjoyed your segment here which I'm sure that they did alth
74:45
hopefully they'll let us know that they did uh yeah lonus Luke thanks for having
74:49
me on here it was a blast um you guys can find me on J2 cents on YouTube it's
74:54
right there on the screen you can also find me on Facebook and Twitter at the
74:58
same handle um I'm always doing what I can to try and help you guys be smarter
75:02
buyers and Builders of your own PC uh I am a huge advocate of building your own
75:06
PC so I'll do everything I can to talk you out of buying a prefab uh but with
75:10
that that's that's who I am and toss me a follow and ask me your questions all
75:14
right cool thanks man see you later all right thanks have a good one all right
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see oh well I clicked on things anyway uh not only do they work well on the
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desktop or on a notebook but their
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websites also look great on mobile whether it's a phone or a tablet so all
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you have to do to take advantage of Squarespace is visit squarespace.com SL
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well you don't have to use the/ Linus actually you can just go to squarespace.com and use offer code Linus
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12 to save 10% on your first Squarespace
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subscription whether you want to use it for your blog or to sell knickknacks
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that your ant made or whatever else the case may be I'm actually thinking about
77:06
this um sh okay when we get the Linus
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Tech tip store up which is close which is actually coming I was thinking should
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we leak a few things I don't know should we should we leak things we'll let you
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guys tell us if we should leak things um I'm I'm on the twitch chat I'm on the
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twitch chat okay anyway um when we have the lineus tech chip store up is there
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any reason because my aunt is kind of like an AB okay hold on hold on have you
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seen any of her art before you before
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you make that face have you seen any of her art there will be a classified
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section sir that you will be able to sell your own products I no no no no no
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no no no or she can lus Media Group would buy them from her no hold on a
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second they're good they're good what
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and like why why are our people going to going to be interested in abstract art
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why would they not abstract art is for everyone it's
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abstract okay do you guys think please
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answer no I should allow my aunt's
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artwork to be for sale in the lonus tech tip store she can put it for sale under
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her own classified account well the store is not just going
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to be full of like classified though it's it'll it'll have a lot of our stuff
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as well people are complaining about my headphones well I needed them to hear
78:24
Jay I need needed both of them I needed surround sound that's how it works add
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more speakers add more speakers you'll just generate more ears as you put more
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if only I had a Galaxy Gear I could add another speaker
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here oh my goodness people are saying no
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leaks because clearly the no have nothing to an no abstract art now we
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don't know what the answer is oh my goodness all right well I think we can
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agree that they all probably want the leak so why don't we head over to Linus
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tips.com and see if we have anything interesting to show to you guys here I'm
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not logged in but I guess I probably could at the moment right log into what
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log into the forum yes you're on the
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other line right I'm on the yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah don't worry yeah uh
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no IP shows no no because I'm just going to go into the other thing sure okay so
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what is my password I don't even know okay so here's all the like extra
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stuff that appears when you're an admin don't pay any attention to those
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yeah don't look at the man behind the curtain I love how you're showing the
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URL so everyone's just going to go anyways
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uh there we go full screen browsing yay
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all right so this will potentially at some point in the future be the store
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where we'll sell things like review samples or I don't know we could sell
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almost anything here we have a a partnership with a with a with a
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retailer who's I who local that I used
79:56
to work for um they're good guys I love those guys can't say that enough uh so
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we have a partnership with a local retailer where the shipping out will
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actually be done by someone who knows a thing or two about shipping and packing
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and all that kind of stuff not us um but
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the actual transactions will be handled through this uh we're planning to use
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PayPal as the payment portal someone's going to buy that now someone probably
80:21
did you put a stock limit on it I did okay someone could actuallyy the 3970x
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for $699.99 if they really wanted to although I don't think it's that
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fantastic of a deal um this was just we were testing it so if I click on this I
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think just out of pure curiosity if someone bought it we'd kind of have to
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fulfill that unless we refunded them so if someone bought this right now would
80:42
would we be fulfilling that yep yeah yeah we have we have we have a few of
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them actually um I'm just making sure that so there's like some specs I copy
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pasted some specs in nice so if you were to add to cart now that might have more
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specs on it then now hold on a second the one the problem would be shipping
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because right now there's no shipping methods that that work um so the way
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that shipping is going to work is we're either going to get something integrated
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or we are going to have to just have people manually use like Canada post's
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website to calculate how much the shipping is going to cost us and then
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we'll just have to send it out from there um so yeah that's that's that's
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the thing and I think payments actually work so they do so I wouldn't people
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used to mess around when there was a widget on there and pretend to buy it
81:30
it's it's going to work now so if you buy this it will work it will transfer
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$700 to us and we will ship you a
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CPU so if you don't want a forementioned
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CPU please don't buy it don't buy the widget cuz you're not
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getting the money back if it ships
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so yeah all right hopefully people get that
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and it's all good uh I think that's pretty much it
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though so guys the the main thing the we can keep doing leaks if we want to waste
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time we can keep doing leaks I well why don't we do another leak later there's
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this one we'll just tease the next leak yeah oh no no we'll leak that one after
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Okay so let's move on to our next topic here guys which is that Dell is
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releasing a console I I put this in the dock and I
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think Luke Luke's comment was something along the lines of how is this even news
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line because basically it's a small Alienware
82:31
desktop I think this underlines a bit of a fundamental issue here with the whole
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idea of PCS as consoles whether it's steam boxes or Windows Media Center
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media PCS or whatever else it's just a
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PC it is literally just a computer I
82:49
love when you watch the video the guy's like yeah it's pretty much everything's
82:52
upgradeable including the graphics and the RAM in the storage and I'm like of
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course it's a computer shut
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up I hate all this steam box crap it's
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literally like congratulations You released a computer that looks like a
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console I don't care I just oh man I'm
83:13
curious did we Peak when he was handy clapping I wonder I'm just curious I
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don't know twitch chat should probably let me know but features and design
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available with Windows 8 oh my God get
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the Windows 8.1 update for increased productivity with a free update from the
83:29
Windows store mindblowing visuals and sound you mean just like we've had on
83:34
PCS forever virtual design for virtually
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any space whatever virtual design means
83:41
expansive experience with Wi-Fi I love
83:45
that's a big part of the movie too they're like you're always connected with 80211 and I was like yeah not new
83:51
we have AC like we person personally
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have AC now on our
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phones I need like a beep button so that I can bleep
84:06
myself oh my God we should get one of those we could do it with we could
84:10
totally do it we could just we have to do it that oh my God
84:15
that would be so epic okay yeah that needs to happen anyway that's not news
84:20
Dell not news Dell that was why we added
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news speaking of news this is news I am
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so stoked for this pebble's official app
84:30
store coming in early 2014 because there are apps for the pebble which is amazing
84:35
and I love it and I use it every day except when I forget it because I'm a
84:38
bit of an airhead sometimes I love my Pebble and having an app store that's
84:43
built into Android and iOS Pebble apps
84:47
is going to be amazing because the App Store really did revolutionize the way
84:52
that people shop for software it really
84:56
did what is an app it's an
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application I love that it's not new
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it's not different it's just an application you just shop for it in an
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application store that's all so the
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store was really the the shift here and
85:14
having something that makes it easy to browse and shop for and try out
85:19
different Pebble applications is going to be awesome and I am super stoked and
85:24
and pebble is amazing there's no rumors of like a pebble 2 or anything but I got
85:28
to wonder like what they have they got to do something yeah they got to have
85:32
something going on which isn't to say that that Pebble one is is bad in any
85:37
way I'm extremely happy with it it's just but things move things move things
85:41
change but there's going to be lots of different stuff whether it's uh so the
85:45
the the categories for apps at the beginning are going to be daily remotes
85:49
games notifications tools tools and
85:53
utilities Sports and Fitness and watch faces so some of these are a little bit
85:57
different from what we're used to seeing but of course it's a smartwatch and it's
86:01
a it's a completely like singular piece of Hardware that's going to have its own
86:04
unique advantages and disadvantages and the original article is from Tech Crunch
86:08
and I'm extremely excitated about
86:11
that um oh yeah do you want to talk about uncarrier 4 so the original
86:15
articles from bgr.com and wow that is
86:18
the scariest face he's always like that I love it I love it it's awesome all
86:23
right so their CEO has hinted that the company is about to
86:27
make another Big Splash in the wireless another one this is what like the third one this year uh this will be the fourth
86:32
fourth this year all right carry on so essentially it they they with their
86:37
uncarrier thing it was all really attractive but a lot of people couldn't move to T-Mobile because they still had
86:42
to do um early termination fees which
86:45
was a big big deal oh whoops sorry I was
86:49
distracted I was watching twitch chat no worries
86:52
um yeah there a really big deal but like
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now how do I say this they're they're basically giving everyone up to $350 to
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be like yeah join our side so if you have early termination fees they're just
87:04
like no we'll pay those and they're giving cons extra consideration to
87:09
families so if you have a family of like four or five people they'll go over and
87:13
above their previous $350 potential to
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be like no we're going to Bow your whole family that's amazing so T-Mobile's like
87:21
yeah uncarrier all this stuff is epic oh you couldn't switch to us yet no no
87:24
that's cool man I got you just come switch if I was in the states I'd
87:28
probably be all over T-Mobile like the past is delicious just come to our side
87:33
you can just keep eating it all day yep we'll even pay you to come eat it that's
87:39
kind of amazing I mean honestly just with the whole roaming thing alone would
87:44
be enough that I could look at something like oh okay a few hundred
87:49
for um you know oh oh crap you know I uh
87:55
you know I have to pay out my contract yeah that's not the end of the world if
87:59
I can travel to the US and not have to deal with roaming fees which are the
88:03
worst thing ever on the face of the of
88:06
the earth so there you go guys it's all rumors right now the whole $350 buy out
88:12
of your early contract termination fee but it fits into the direction that
88:15
they've been moving that's just the same kind of crazy thing that they might be
88:19
willing to do so we're extremely excited um Star Citizen hanger module has an
88:24
update but more importantly the dog fighter module has been delayed who
88:28
didn't see this one coming yeah I mean based on looking at The Hanger module
88:31
were they anywhere near ready for dog fighting no and like ah there's there's
88:36
some cool stuff though they with this update you know I was just complaining I
88:39
think yesterday that they took away my oh not again um that they took away
88:46
my I'll tell you later um they took away
88:50
my uh what was I trying to say they took away my cutless yep was Uber not stoked
88:56
with this update cutless is in so I'm super stoked to go look at it soon y
89:01
because but you can just look at it you can't actually fly it yet well I can get in it and like look around at the
89:07
controls and stuff all right so here we go we can uh
89:12
I think we might as well just blow through our quickfire topics then and then move on to more leaks shall we sure
89:17
all right so this was just a post on the Forum that I thought was
89:21
awesome smil post
89:24
that this guy ordered 108 R9
89:28
290s this is on bitcointalk.org
89:32
and um so to be clear guys uh graphics
89:35
cards are not really that optimal for Bitcoin mining they're more for Litecoin
89:39
mining these days but check that out
89:44
apparently this is like just some dude and his dad's helping him Finance it but
89:48
an r9290 actually has gone up in price from $400 to $500 since launch um
89:56
actually we oh oh this is an exciting leak so we're going to have our um r9290
90:01
versus GTX 780 both of them water cooled
90:05
Showdown coming very soon which is much more relevant now than it was when we
90:09
originally planned it because they're the same price now yeah because
90:12
everyone's buying up AMD cards so let's let's sort of average it out and let's
90:15
assume he paid 450 each so 450 * 108
90:20
means he spent nearly $500,000 on the graphics cards alone
90:26
never mind the PCS required to power to run them and the power required to power
90:32
them so that is boners and it just goes
90:35
to show you how big into the whole cryptocurrency thing many people are
90:40
getting in spite of the fluctuations in value I mean Bitcoin went from $1,200 to
90:45
what five something High the next day
90:49
and then and then it halfed again I think yesterday did it no I think heard
90:54
rumor that I got halfed again there's a new coin called Dogecoin yeah but that's
90:58
a joke hilarious hilarious we're not talking
91:02
about that it's a okay we'll talk about how it's a joke okay so Dogecoin or
91:05
dogcoin or whatever you want to call it is like it's a joke
91:09
cryptocurrency that's only reason for existence is to make fun of
91:14
cryptocurrency okay so no bitcoin's at around 600 to 750 right
91:20
now um so yeah Dogecoin please don't
91:24
invest in do I've heard of people making money on it though because like people
91:28
are people are jumping into it as a joke and then like okay I hope it becomes
91:35
like the thing that stays around just because that would be amazing like
91:39
flying spaghetti monsterism it's like it only exists to make fun of all the other
91:45
ones and yet we keep allowing it to continue to exist Because the Internet
91:50
loves satire like nothing else it really
91:54
does it does um yeah that's about it we don't
91:58
really have anything else to say about Dogecoin yeah no that's about all that
92:02
can be said Minecraft coming to Playstation 3 on two days ago so this
92:06
was obviously a post from earlier in the week um it was really funny some of the
92:10
posts in this thread were kind of brutal people being like why do they keep
92:13
favoring Sony over Microsoft well I
92:16
don't know because like you can only release on so many platforms at a time
92:21
you just got to kind of like pick one or why do they keep favoring Microsoft over
92:24
Sony or I don't know what people were saying but it's like I don't know it's
92:28
was released for One console before and now it's two and you know why didn't
92:32
they release for the PS4 well because there's like you know what a million of
92:35
them out there like how many are there I actually don't know I haven't been keeping track relatively there's not as
92:39
many as the old relative to PlayStation 3 and it's not like Minecraft needs the
92:45
extra horses frankly although I mean there is mods and stuff on the PC
92:49
version which is obviously vastly Superior that uh that can make it more
92:53
diand in that's that's not a thing on the uh on the on the other one
93:00
not so much all right so Oppo is teasing the fine s which uh is SE is a handset
93:06
with a 2K display so to be clear guys um
93:10
that uh okay I think the the article here on Phone Arena made a bit of a
93:15
mistake because 2K is not uh F seven 2K
93:20
display that's their graphic that's why they said that oh okay well they're
93:24
they're being confusing because to be clear 2K is 2048 by 1080 that's 2K
93:32
that's the standard uh 2 and 1 12K is
93:35
2560 by 1440 well also known as 1440p
93:39
the problem is that is that the terminologies are changing so many
93:43
different ones we've gone from vertical resolution to horizontal resolution and
93:47
the other issue is that there are multiples of some of these resolutions
93:51
so for example 4K could be 4160 by
93:56
whatever it is I 38 something or 3840 by
94:00
2160 or like whatever they are there's actually multiple ones for different
94:03
aspect ratios so at any rate I think what we're talking about here is a 5.7
94:07
in phone with a resolution of 2560 X 1440 now one thing I did notice about
94:12
this particular 5.9 in phone at 1080p is that it doesn't look as sharp as the one
94:17
but that could be the contrast ratio and the quality of the screen as opposed to
94:21
the actual pixel density because this does not have as good of a screen as the
94:25
HTC1 it's actually quite warm not not like warm to the touch but yeah the how
94:31
it looks yeah it's more yellow whereas the one is uh is more maybe a little bit
94:35
on the cool side so it's expected to have a 4,000 Milah battery man that
94:39
makes a big difference this one's like 3,000 something compared to 23 something
94:43
I think on the one it's the difference between like on a heavy day making it
94:47
through the day and on a heavy day like being Tethered to a charger and like
94:51
today I've used it I've made a bunch of calls I've been on the internet all day
94:54
and I'm at like 60% battery it's like awesome yeah anyway um I think that's
94:59
pretty much all we have to say about that other than that to me this really feels quite unnecessary this might be
95:04
the world's greatest mouse pad this was posted on linest Tech tips.com by wooden
95:07
marker yeah yeah a $1 mouse pad that has
95:11
his or her Avatar and lus Tech tips on
95:14
it wood marker is kind of a big deal yep
95:17
greatest mouse pad ever um also this was
95:20
cool this has happened before but this is just I I thought was like boners so
95:25
doctors in China successfully saved this guy's hand see there's a hand attached
95:30
to a leg I'm sorry for showing you this picture I probably should have done like
95:33
a warning or something but um they had it they kept it alive for a month
95:39
allowing it to actually like sit and heal it was uh from it was it was
95:43
severed by a drilling machine so the guy oh this is crazy the guy put the hand in
95:48
a plastic bag without a blood supply while he searched for a hospital that
95:52
might be willing to save it so about 7 hours after the hospital can you imagine
95:58
being being this guy and being like yep
96:01
I'm a trek around with my severed hand
96:04
in a bag of ice trying to find someone who's willing to try to reattach it for
96:09
me anyway he found a doctor that was willing to to to to take a crack at it
96:13
and 35 days later they removed the hand from the leg reattached it to the ARM in
96:17
a 9-h hour operation and they will need several more operations in extensive
96:21
Rehabilitation but doctors are optimistic the limbs should fun
96:24
fully in about months isn't it I think I think it's like nerves grow oh man what
96:29
is it I think nerves grow one in every month or something so after reattaching
96:34
a limb like you need times not only for your body to get used to having that
96:38
again but the nerves to like go back out into your hand I can't remember like
96:43
that's probably off by a little bit so no scientific data there but yeah 6,000
96:47
Great Britain pounds yeah I think that's all there is
96:52
to really say isn't there probably still scratch your
96:58
disc so there you go the price tag for this gaming machine is about
97:03
$10,000 the original article this was posted by imike the king oh iike the
97:07
king you did not post an original link to an
97:11
article I am I for shame um that unless
97:16
this is it okay well it's from the huffingtonpost.co.uk
97:20
so I mean there are other ways to get
97:23
goldplated consoles for example uh what's that what's that place called I I
97:27
have it in here gold genie.com gold genie.com has all kinds of crazy
97:31
goldplated stuff they don't have Xbox one yet but they have a 360 that's
97:35
goldplated for around $1,200 Canadian so
97:38
that might you might want to wait for gold Genie to deliver your ludicrous
97:42
gaming console if you're going to be crazy one thing that we did say that we
97:45
would call out today is that we have the world's greatest live stream socks so
97:49
there's mine with Space Invaders if I can actually get mine up there you're
97:53
huge you really are a very large very large person mine has a robot on yeah
97:58
like robot socks so these were a Christmas present from someone on The
98:02
Forum oh we left their names downstairs I think we left their names downstairs
98:05
Frozen Kore or something which is really embarrassing right about now I tweeted
98:09
it so Instagram L Tech Frosty Kyogre
98:14
we're terrible people it's like we're trying to be thankful to someone and
98:18
actually we are just horrible we still have the Post-it note
98:23
downstairs because yep cuz we didn't want to forget and then we forgot and
98:26
then we forgot we left it down there we do that a lot yep we're just generally
98:30
not very nice people I think we're kind of nice we're just terribly forgetful
98:35
yeah you could make that argument which gets interpreted as being not nice
98:38
that's true and our people correct is being inconsiderate being not nice but
98:44
maybe it's not being inconsiderate we considered it by leaving it down there
98:49
so that we wouldn't forget it all right Frosty Kyogre I can't even really read
98:52
this VOD some Frost and frosty Kyogre I can't I can't read it
99:00
unfortunately all right leaks of new Forum features I'm going to sign in
99:06
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99:12
actually I can't even remember my username it's good thing I'm not like
99:16
streaming that I had to type my username in like
99:19
three times all right what else do we want to show oh right uh full screen
99:25
in ah this yes so it is kind of broken
99:31
and still under construction and still has many things that has to be done to it but um lonus has decided that we need
99:38
a proper home page yes we do which to be
99:41
clear is not us becoming not a community
99:45
Forum in fact the homepage will be yet
99:49
another way to increase our community interaction and our communities
99:53
interaction with itself and each other it's realistically a portal for the
99:56
Forum all of these topics that you see like best frog USA which is obviously a
100:02
sample topic will link to a part of the
100:05
Forum if you scroll down there's a trending topics part still working on
100:10
the logic for that still work that might not work we're figuring it out but that
100:13
is all direct links to The Forum and
100:17
then if you go down even more there's a featured videos thing um and then
100:20
there's and then there's build logs build logs will be a direct feed from
100:24
the build log section some people were wondering why the heck there's that
100:27
sticky weird not actually a build log build log from Mr Wizard there as you
100:31
can see it's got a few few views and a few posts that's what that is all about
100:36
because we've been messing around with that so yeah this is what's been
100:40
happening lately so yeah we are uh we are we are we are definitely investing
100:45
we are spending some money on developing the website and making it a better place
100:49
for you guys to go and hang out and do things and get the latest news and
100:53
interact with each other and hopefully that ends up being something that's
100:57
useful to y'all yeah I guess that's all there is
101:01
to really say about it uh the store and that actually oh well we already leaked
101:06
this before but we should probably just uh show it to them um oh wait that's not
101:11
the right one hey where is that one what one the uh this one oh media there we go
101:16
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101:20
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101:24
watch this show on
101:28
hooray so at some point in the future and you can also see a countdown to when
101:33
the next broadcast is obviously we're broadcasting now so yeah oh wow I made
101:40
it I made it big Zoom un Zoom oh no I
101:43
can't control it um so then there will
101:46
be like some content here for the channel description and news items so
101:51
you can see there are definitely some placeholders there's there's going to be uh spots for oh no I don't want to turn
101:56
on sticky keys sticky keys on your keyboard never a good thing um so over
102:02
here there's like the sponsors for the show and then down here there's past
102:07
shows so we like I said we are definitely we are definitely investing
102:12
some cash monies in making our website more desirable for you guys to to check
102:17
out and enjoy and uh you know I guess
102:20
just making it better yeah we want to be better
102:23
but we may need your help we seriously I know we've been talking about this for
102:27
like a month but we will be doing a funding drive for some of the new gear
102:31
that we really need and these website upgrades that right now I'm paying for
102:35
we're trying we're trying to find a way to
102:41
make the new one like cool really cool
102:45
the badges thing was pretty cool we're going to try make a new type of cool we
102:50
want different cool stuff so there you go guys all right well I think that's
102:53
pretty much it for the show today um before people freak out I have build
102:57
logs they will be in the Afterparty they couldn't be in this show because of
103:02
issues really that's all you're going to say cuz I have I actually don't have an
103:06
explanation I do do you yep but I don't
103:10
nope right I figured you had one but I don't okay well whatever um so guys you
103:15
can tune you can tune into the Afterparty apparently um I had wanted to
103:20
stream at 4K today theoretically it's possible
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um but we weren't able to make that happen I was having some trouble with
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the uh with the oh I should show you guys I should show you guys the new
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setup speaking of of new gear that is going to how much of the new setup are
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you our content better huh oh no I'm just showing the uh the camera oh you
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took the camera okay cool I wanted to make sure that he wasn't doing like
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other things it then the camera not the
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camera is not a thing I don't have it
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well I can why don't why don't you have it I can show the recorder yeah you can just grab the AUD
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okay so why can't we do it these buttholes released their product before
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it like had anywhere any like okay in their defense their website did have
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like fine print about how doesn't do any of the things that it's supposed to do
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yet um so this my friends is the Odyssey
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7 q and by sometime in February we will
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have support for codex and resolutions that will blow your mind so we'll be
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able to record in prores at 4K
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all day with our current setup so with the battery and the two 512 gig SSD
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cartridges that pop into the top of this bad boy see them we will be able to
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shoot pretty much everything we do in 4k
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which doesn't necessarily mean that much because you don't watch the videos in 4k
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but what it does mean is more detail when we zoom in on things so for
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something like fastest possible um when
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we punch in on closer on my face it'll still be Crystal Clear what it also
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means is when we're doing macro footage of products we can punch in up to four
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times digital zoom and it'll still look like full HD 1080p so the videos are
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going to look real cool once this thing videos are going to look really good so
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what I was hoping to do because the way that the SDI out interface works on our
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camera is that it only outputs 1080p unless you have a special recorder which
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is either this one or Sony's $4,000 one which is ridiculous plus you need
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another $4,000 piece so you need a $1,000 interface piece and $4,000
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recorder piece to record 4K with Sony solution so this one right now only
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supports 2K raw but 4K raw is coming in
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January and then 4K Pro res is coming later but anyway it has SDI in so SDI is
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kind of like professional HDMI if I had to kind of explain it it's totally not
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the same thing at all but it's just a digital video signal that uses a locking
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BNG connector that is capable of carrying um similar resolutions to
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interfaces like HDMI or display ports it's completely different standard some
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people in the chat were saying that YouTube can't support 4K and other
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people are already correcting them I'm just correcting them here so that
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everyone it it's fine they support it now yes yes it
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can anyway uh so it has SDI in so that
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comes from the camera and then it has SDI out which can go to our Blackmagic
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extreme 4K capture card so I thought that I could pass it through but I
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couldn't get it to be detected it could have just been used rare I didn't have long to play around with it but I
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thought maybe we could stream at 4K today but it looks like uh maybe that's
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yet another feature that's coming later although being able to shoot in raw we
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have an upcoming project that we shot uh for Funk entirely in 2K raw which is
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basically just 1080p like it's not higher resolution but the color and the
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image quality should be the best we've ever managed to produce so we're do we
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get to release this one well eventually
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yes why you got it why do you is the other one just never going to exist
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okay yeah yeah yeah no the the the one where he's in an Afro and stuff will
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exist in the future but the the one we just filmed for the keyboard will be
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coming first yeah okay yeah so there's going to be kind of a weird reference in
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there no no no it'll make sense we we we rejig the script to make it make sense
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in the new release order okay cool yeah
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that's awesome and I'm definitely going to meet with funk at CES this year and
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see if we can uh see if we can find a way to produce more of them because they
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really are kind of Awesome you guys have only seen one of them so far there's
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three there's three but I mean what's
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the point of releasing a marketing video for a product that you doesn't exist um
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some people brought up that it's kind of funny that Sony took 4K really literally
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just made everything 4K what oh yeah this thing allows you to
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film in 4k cost 4K you need another thing that cost 4K and then you can film
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in 4k in their defense the camera itself costs
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8K yeah a precursor of things to come no
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it only has a 4K sensor in it yeah yeah
107:56
uh should we do maybe like one Twitter Blitz I was going to say before we
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actually sign off we should hit a Twitter Blitz people been asking for that let's do it let's do it
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yeah you can always go so much deeper than
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me wow uh Austin says you should just open
108:21
a store called l Tech Computing and try and compete with NCI I don't want to I
108:25
love NCIX they're my Bros we'll just work with them is it true that the I
108:33
343 oh I love this show uh almost performs the same as the I5
108:38
4670 uh it wouldn't perform that differently unless you're overclock yeah
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cuz that's non a nonk so yeah it' be pretty similar I don't know if there is
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a 4670 I thought it was the 4 570 nonk and it was very similar anyway uh check
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out patreon.com actually they reached out to us um it offers a way for your
108:53
subscribers to become regular Financial contributors we're well aware of
108:57
subbable actually subbable oh we were really close to being one of the first
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like dozen channels on subbable uh the problem is that we're not us-based and
109:05
because Amazon payments to take payments requires you to have a Us address in US
109:09
bank account we weren't able to but I really love what Vlog brothers are doing
109:13
with subbable.com I haven't looked into patreon.com as much yet but it looks
109:17
very similar um we're aware of it but through the lineus tech tips form and
109:20
through the store we will actually have regular contribution options where
109:25
instead of you guys giving someone else
109:28
money to give to us and then have them take a cut you can just give it straight
109:31
to us so that'll be a thing more leaks all
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the leaks um finally some demos and news
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on mantle oh okay I should probably check that out later yeah it was it was
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a 46 minute video I think so I didn't scrub through it for today but I'll show
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it to you would you prefer Mac or Windows for a college student I can't
109:49
choose which you know what post online as Tech tips.com and you will get a of
109:52
people who tell you to choose Windows Windows um with that
109:57
said if you legitimately want to be a student and not waste your time playing
110:01
games buying a Mac would might be a good idea because their limited functionality
110:06
or makes them better for certain things or you could build yeah that's true you
110:09
could build a Hackintosh or there's certain actually programs that you can
110:13
get that'll limit you from going to different websites and limit you from opening different programs any thoughts
110:16
on the LG G2 I'll let you feel that since we have one and we're working on
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well he's working on a review while I work on my One max review um so far I
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actually really like it there's a few things that I'm on the fence about and
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there's a few things that I really like the screen is beautiful for one it's
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absolutely beautiful the buttons on the back as some of you can probably I know
110:35
it's not oh Lord wow I know it's not in focus when I do this but Sil oh we have
110:40
a new lens now too epic is this the Tamron we have like no money left cuz we
110:46
spent all the money because it's the end of the year there see the up and down arrows
110:51
here uh up arrow down arrow silver button in the middle the up arrow and
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down arrow are volume the silver button in the middle is your like uh Power and
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sleep option and then so it's all in the
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back which is really weird but then it has functionality where if you double
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tap the screen every single time I want to show someone it doesn't work yeah you
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show to me there you go if I double tap the screen it always works when I do it when I'm not showing people it turns the
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screen on and if you double tap the screen in a blank area on the desktop it
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will turn the screen off so you can still kind of ignore the button and then
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use the phone I'm kind of warming up to it at the beginning I was like wow this
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is stupid I hate this and then within about a day I liked that the volume
111:30
buttons were back there I'm still a little bit on the fence about the power button um other than that it's I haven't
111:36
played around with it enough I kind of changed a whole bunch of things so that
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I'm not using LG's interface too much
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yeah um but I don't necessarily know that LG's interface is that bad I'm just
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not used to it all I'm really used to is raw Android and um t wiiz and it's quite
111:54
different right so I I ignored a few things but I'm slowly allowing options
111:58
to come back in from LG's side and a few of them are really interesting I'm just
112:02
not super used to it so right now I like it a lot it's a good form factor size
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too I think um but I do wish it wasn't
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such crappy plastic on the back so I might get a case for it it's very very
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plasticky all right next up we've got
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uh someone says NVIDIA gsync do you
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think yes at some point g-sync technology will come to Rift um yes it
112:26
needs it uh John carac covered that pretty darn well during the gsync event
112:31
I asked AT&T if there were any special circumstances where the cancellation fee
112:35
was waved she said
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death excellent wow um all right so
112:42
let's go ahead and someone that's a special circumstance people are
112:45
complaining about twitch lagging we did up our bit rate so you might just have
112:49
to turn down your usual quality of the stream some people have been saying that
112:52
it might be twitch as well that I saw one person was complaining with a 30
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megabit per second down connection that he was lagging like crazy another person with 30 megabit per second down
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connection was on Source said it was perfect no lag and looked amazing um
113:05
speaking of which Mark asks how's the fiber experience yeah it's awesome it's
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pretty great we speed tested it yesterday and uh from 50 down 10 up
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advertised we were getting 63 down 18 up
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I'm not going to go there this time all right so let's go ahead and I
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think that is pretty much it so guys
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thank you very much for checking out the live stream the land show whatever this
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thing's called don't I I think we changed it at some
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point and peace out well we got to do
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the do the what oh yeah
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thanks guys bye