The WAN Show - REGISTER YOUR DRONE! Oh Yeah and Weaponized AI - Dec 18, 2015

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2016-05-06 · 13,577 words · ~67 min read
Floatplane YouTube

Transcript

JSON SRT VTT 974
0:04 welcome to the W
0:20 show all right so if we rip the headphone users right at the beginning
0:24 of the show then uh it won't be a surprise when we do it again later
0:29 that's right kids adjust your volume now cuz this show is going to be loud and
0:33 proud and uh something bound C down F
0:39 how s s yeah and S
0:43 ploud no that's the after party oh all
0:47 right guys so we got a bunch of great topics for you today but we're not going
0:51 to call out any of those because Luke picks the topic call outs today most of
0:56 them are crap wait is that a swear word crap no
1:00 no dick ah dick is gray oh my God unless
1:05 you're still alive then it's more of a peach depending on your skin tone it
1:09 could be darker all right so steam steam back
1:14 remover is a fraud obviously geohot
1:18 built a self-driving car in his garage the Pentagon is interested in
1:23 weaponized AI wow really great
1:27 idea haven't talked to Elon drone owners
1:30 must register with the FAA the worst part is they probably have talked to Mr
1:34 musk and yet with all of his Charisma he was probably all like this
1:39 is a terrible idea cuz look at all the reigning destruction it can bring and they were
1:43 like okay we want that all right so
1:48 let's roll the intro and get on with the
1:57 show I was just G to keep going
2:13 no music um oh yeah that really doesn't
2:17 surprise me I mean are it's a miracle we have
2:22 these assets at all right now to be perfectly honest um some of you probably
2:26 saw my post on Instagram SL Twitter Facebook I guess it goes everywhere okay
2:30 my post on social media where I had talked about that we had a bit of a a
2:35 bit of a data loss situation this week
2:38 but we're going to have a vlog coming up about the journey that that has been so
2:44 I suspect that's not like the right file like I I suspect that's like yeah there
2:49 was one that didn't have music yeah so so anyway we'll we'll get we'll get more
2:52 into that oh hold on hold on hold on I'm going to fix it now though oh you don't
2:57 have the right file though well I wasn't going to to totally fix it I was going
3:00 to fix it like a little
3:04 um also I don't see uh I don't see I
3:08 don't see a I don't see a thing right now hold on a second hold on oh are we
3:12 still moving what yeah we're still moving okay that's good oh there it goes
3:17 okay okay we had a bit of a we had a bit of a hiccup there in in xplit there we
3:21 go I was trying to move this and then
3:25 what this and then there we go so that it would work when we do the outro oh
3:30 yeah we still won't have audio no I I what do you think I'm some kind of
3:34 magician and I can fix the audio too I could just you know what song it
3:39 is we can just hardcore do that or if
3:43 you know what song it is you could just like find it and then play it no at the
3:47 same time I don't even know I think it's adhesive wombat so it should be possible
3:51 to find on the internet all right so uh let's get into let's get into our first
3:55 topic of the day I someone said rip wanic server and I really thought they
4:00 said wank server and I was like we actually don't have one of those and if
4:03 we did you can bet that one would be backed up in many many places that
4:08 server would come into the room I'd be like back that junk
4:14 up oh I'm terrible okay so uh drone
4:17 owners must register get off twitch chat what what what get off twitch chat
4:23 oh so sorry to okay no we're not doing a
4:27 topic yet so confused no we have very a very important announcement to make um
4:31 it's just taking a little while to change scenes I don't know what Windows
4:35 updated and apparently the as far as I can tell the only thing they updated was
4:39 the safely remove Hardware icon so I wish it just I wish it just wouldn't I
4:44 wish that this machine would just not change from week to week that would be
4:47 super super amazing um so I apologize to
4:52 Twitch chat and Twitter but I am actually I'm actually on social media
4:57 blackout right now no because I am seeing Star Wars the Force whatever it's
5:03 called in about 18 hours in the morning
5:06 and I am determined to not know anything
5:09 about it I'm going to be doing my Afterparty stream thing tonight so I'm G
5:13 to end up looking at twitch chat and I have my theory as to Star Wars spoilers
5:19 so I think I'm just going to I'll monitor twitch chat and it'll be fine
5:22 are we going to talk about the theories for Star Wars spoilers yeah yeah so here
5:25 why don't we why don't we do that as our as our first topic so um so Luke was
5:29 asking me right before the show started like heyy um you know are you going to
5:34 look at twitch chat today Star Wars spoilers and I was like no no no and
5:37 actually I don't want to talk about this because I did get one spoiler but like I
5:43 kind of like immediately put on a show
5:47 really loud I literally think the bot just banned like 80 people so I oh yeah
5:54 guys do not post them anyway I think ghost might have gotten his hands on
6:00 oh no I I talked to him okay oh yeah that's that's a thing do not post Star
6:04 Wars spoilers in our there's probably over a hundred people banned good in the
6:07 last like two minutes do not post Star Wars spoilers not even spoil don't post
6:13 anything related to it don't post anything related to Star Wars not even
6:17 not even greo shot last shot first I
6:20 don't care the bot might get Global banned for like spam because the amount
6:25 of people it's Banning I'm not even kidding this is
6:28 insane what
6:33 wow oh my God okay well okay so what you
6:37 heard anyway about the spoilers that are going around yeah what what I heard and
6:41 what I kind of theorized was that um there's going to be a lot of people who
6:45 are going to be spreading uh spoilers
6:50 which aren't actually spoilers because they don't know if it happened or not so
6:54 these are people that haven't gone to go see the movie yet and are spamming online about things that they're saying
7:00 happened to ruin it for you so that you get all pissy because they're trolls
7:05 even though they don't actually know what happened cuz that's the thing about trolls is is trolls trolls like they
7:11 troll each other so what would be the first thing that I would do when I got
7:16 out of a theater as a I consider myself a fairly grade a troll is I would go and
7:22 tell any trolls that I know some misinformation so that they go and
7:27 spread that and then I'll be like ha and
7:32 uh that's a really old reference yes um got it so so yeah so so my my the so a I
7:40 actually to to a much greater degree than probably most people I I isolate
7:46 myself from information about movies that I'm really excited about seeing so
7:51 I let myself see the first Star Wars
7:54 trailer but there was another trailer there was the Japanese trailer that had
7:59 more footage and there's all the interviews with the cast all that stuff
8:04 I have not touched any of it I watch the first trailer once that's it I'm going
8:11 to go in completely blind like a new baby sliding out of the womb and or
8:16 being pushed out rather sliding
8:20 out sliding across the floor
8:24 um and uh so that's the way it's going to be so I I really I really work hard
8:28 to to keep myself away from that stuff so I did hear one thing but I've already
8:33 forgotten the name of one of the characters involved because like I haven't been paying attention to all the
8:37 names of the characters I don't know who all the new characters are I don't know who any of the actors and actresses are
8:42 all I know is Carrie fiser is going to be there Mark Hamill is going to be
8:45 there and you were there and you were
8:49 there and you were there and that's another really old reference um and that
8:54 that's all I care about although if if if my man Harrison Ford shows up the
9:00 same way that he showed up for Kingdom of the Crystal Skull I really don't know
9:04 and it's it's been like another four or five years since then too like he was
9:08 really looking old and Crystal Skull so
9:11 hopefully he's like hopefully he's like an adviser on the council or some crap
9:15 and all he has to do is yeah all he has to do is sit in a chair and like or like
9:20 sit in a bar and fire a blaster from under a table first oh wow I was going
9:24 to say some theories but I'm not going to because I think that okay go go ahead
9:30 I don't think he's just advising because the Millennium Falcon fly one of the
9:34 shift a little bit here hold on hold on hold on you know what oh really yeah
9:38 tried to say it fairly faintly you didn't have any other theories well I do
9:41 but okay well you that one I think we're going to have Luke Star Wars Theory
9:45 minute no no it's fine I'm going to put my do that because that's not fair no no
9:49 really no no no it's fine it's fine it's fine it's fine just hold on just hold on
9:52 I'm just as long as I have some music playing I won't be able to I don't want to do it because then people are going
9:56 to grab audio bites and start spreading them around as
9:59 spoilers right but I mean because none of this is true anyway all you'd be
10:04 doing is actually helping okay so I should make up a whole bunch of fake
10:08 stuff so by trolling you actually help the people who don't want the movie
10:12 spoiled the more we troll the trolls the
10:16 better off the good people will be okay
10:20 so so hold on but I still I still want no part of
10:24 any of it so I'm making these next level [ __ ] I'm turn I'm cranking this
10:27 cranking this [ __ ] BBA has a very weird movement patternn you know how the head
10:32 kind of like floats on top probably magnetically and then there's the ball
10:36 that's rolling around on all that kind of stuff that weird movement pattern is
10:40 actually referential back to Jar Jar Binks the weird movement pattern that
10:44 Jar Jar Binks had that is going to destroy isn't that just coming through
10:47 your phone yes it
10:54 is it's just playing through your
10:57 phone okay whatever
11:00 anyways so I think that they there's AI
11:04 now and they figured out how to download jarjar Banks's personality and movement
11:07 procedures but then put it into something that moves on a ball and that's actually what BBA is also the
11:12 Millennium Falcon is probably now flown by a Wiki not Han Solo wi sorry not Han
11:18 Solo because Han Solo again is probably too old so he might have flown it like
11:22 once or twice near the beginning of the movie but by the end it'll be flown by a
11:26 rookie
11:31 now I just want to finish that song I love that song you know what's really funny is I had never actually listened
11:36 to Supernova until like months after
11:39 we'd been using it as our intro song for
11:44 months um uh what was I going to say how did you have it playing through the
11:47 phone and your headphones it was playing through my phone that's what I was trying to tell you oh I couldn't hear
11:51 you I was like what are you doing it's obviously not working but then you were
11:56 like what and I was like oh okay no I couldn't hear anything thing that's
12:00 weird it was definitely playing through your phone that's never happened before
12:04 um okay so why don't we move on to our our next like sort of real topic here
12:10 ghost when the show is done please tell me you've got some statistic for how
12:13 many people you're Banning there's like three or four bands viewable in chat
12:17 like all the time this is insane oh no
12:21 all right so drone owners must register with the FAA what is it Federal Aviation
12:26 Administration something along those lines basically they take care of air um
12:30 except the breathability of it that should be their tagline we take care of
12:33 the air but you got to you got to say it a
12:37 little bit differently we take care of
12:40 your air yeah your air yeah your air
12:43 it's it's got to be more personal so starting December 21st and when this
12:47 first came out uh when we first heard that they were going to try and
12:50 Implement drone registration before the end of this year I think both you and I
12:55 called BS on it and said there's no way they'll get something turned around that
12:58 quickly yeah um so I was wrong you know well wait
13:03 wasn't it drone like anyways mandatory drone
13:07 registration I said there was no way they would get it pushed through by the end of the year I said something along
13:11 the lines of wow that's optimistic yeah it's done December 21st they beat the
13:15 end of the year by over a week so uh basically in a
13:19 nutshell um you'll find
13:23 nuts sorry I'm just waiting for the scene to change that's not a
13:27 spoiler true is kind of it's kind of in
13:31 its own little world right now it'll happen it's fine like basically if you
13:36 register if you register on the December 21st so soon up until January 20th it's
13:42 uh free registration if you register after that it's only five bucks so it's
13:46 like actually really not that big of a deal it only applies to like I'm going
13:49 to say larger drones but it's anything that isn't like over half a pound yeah
13:53 yeah over half a pound which is fairly reasonable actually because it leaves a
13:56 lot of those like foam you know toy ones
14:00 like the indoor flyers and like the little tiny ones and stuff like you don't have to go through and five buck
14:04 register all of those Lees that out but if you buy like a DJI for a bunch of
14:08 money the $5 registration probably isn't that huge on top of it but this is
14:13 something that I see as a as a big problem like and I said that they
14:17 wouldn't be able to roll this out in time or I didn't think they'd be able to roll this out in time and I'm actually
14:21 only sort of wrong because for
14:24 professional use the Drone registry is
14:27 actually for for business purpos is
14:31 um until the FAA unless the FAA has
14:35 granted a special exemption it they're not set up for it yet so they're
14:40 expecting to release rules legalizing
14:43 business use of drones by mid 2016 so I'm kind of sitting here going
14:47 are you kidding me what for six months unless you go and get a a special
14:53 exemption you can't use a drone for professional
14:57 purposes that you basically haven't done it on time that's all you're really
15:02 saying is like yep we weren't done in time but we're just going to push this
15:05 through and we're going to understand I guess that people are just going to do
15:10 it anyway like yeah dude perfect they're
15:13 not going to they're not going to have aerial footage in their videos because
15:17 you bend drones for commercial use
15:20 right what are you what are you going to do um I don't know I think I think I I
15:27 personally believe drones do need to be regulated in some way I don't
15:31 necessarily think a national drone registry is the answer I
15:36 mean this was you can have a lot wow you can come at this a lot of different ways
15:40 you can kind of go okay well you know drones are dangerous um they have the
15:44 potential to disrupt you know uh Public
15:47 Services you can make a lot of the same arguments about guns in Canada we have a
15:51 gun registry look at how well that worked out for us um yeah made literally
15:57 no difference at all so do I think a drone registry is the answer no not
16:01 necessarily um but I do think something had to be done so I guess they're doing
16:04 something I'm sure I'm just ignorant or non-informed in some way but why does
16:09 this cost $56 million to operate for
16:12 five years four years well um 50 that's
16:17 more than $10 million to take registration forms for four like per
16:23 year for
16:27 what I don't don't know why I was hoping
16:31 you were going to be like oh of course it's because of but no I mean if if any
16:36 of that money goes towards enforcement then I can see that being
16:40 very expensive maybe but you'd think the enforcement would just be like a
16:46 lookup yeah cuz like if if someone brings in a call like there's this
16:50 broken freaking drone in my backyard and please show up and take it and they go
16:53 like oh serial number look it up in the form done so here's the problem you're
16:57 coming at this from like a database programmer perspective yes
17:03 where this should be very easy because it should just be a database yeah and
17:07 basically it should need no one to run it because officers should just go to an
17:12 online portal yep and enter a serial number and then they should have the
17:16 name of whoever owns it yeah but what you are forgetting okay is that so I
17:22 will I will I will play Devil's Advocate I completely agree with you $56 million
17:26 is absolutely ridiculous I was hoping youil the American taxpayer should be
17:30 outraged that it's costing this much to that's way too much money and and and
17:34 when you also consider that people have to pay to register the Drone they're actually paying a registration fee yeah
17:38 that's like yeah so so anyway um the whole world doesn't necessarily work
17:43 like that okay like you know Joanna middle of Hicksville you know wherever
17:49 that has a drone fall in her backyard is going to want to call someone and say
17:52 you know hey this drone fell in my backyard it's like a flying saucer I
17:56 don't know what this is and she's going to want to talk to someone and they're
18:00 going to need to talk to someone and someone's going to like have to go out and retrieve it I don't know if that
18:04 falls on the police I don't know if the FAA gets involved in that so
18:08 administration of any kind of Public Service involves dealing with the public
18:12 which is extremely timec consuming and extremely costly to be fair so in the
18:18 notes it says drone registration will cost 56 million to operate yes but that
18:25 could be a wording thing yes by CET or who yeah so so there there you go that's
18:31 my devil's advocate I I still think it's outrageous but that's all I really have
18:34 to say about that um this is interesting
18:37 so oh the original poster for that last one was Aries creger on the Forum and
18:43 the original poster for this one is Sans Varick
18:48 8,350 a day
18:51 yeah wow I wonder what kind of videos we
18:55 could make with that kind of a budet holy crap and all the confiscated drones
18:59 that we
19:03 have like why why does it cost that much
19:06 I don't know servers servers main main
19:10 frames main frames main
19:15 frames oh my God uh dos identity
19:19 protection oh well no we're not going to talk about
19:23 that there would just be an internal website like local network I'm sure all
19:28 the police stations are Network together like on their own thing probably not
19:32 really like internal police websit remember too like America is basically
19:37 like like 56 countries or whatever however many states there are I can
19:40 never remember maybe that's why it's so expensive actually you know what that
19:45 probably is it could be part of it that's probably it it's probably all of
19:48 there okay we figured it out it's probably all the bureaucratic nonsense
19:52 and basically setting it all up like 50 times yeah um so actually I kind of get
19:56 it now that that that makes it a lot
19:59 more clear actually so this is interesting EU countries will be able to
20:03 stop kids under 16 from using social media without he figured it out chill
20:08 out what were people all upset that I hadn't figured it out yet no the no the
20:13 states I'm out of States oh I don't did I I don't care you said 50 did I is it
20:19 50 apparently apparently all right then
20:24 what about that like uh what about that so many yeah I mean we you should
20:29 consolidate a few yeah we keep it simple there British Columbia Alberta Edmonton
20:34 is a city in Alberta Manitoba got you
20:37 one I did it out of order Ontario Quebec
20:40 New Brunswick New Zealand Halifax which
20:44 is in New Brunswick lots of little Islands no it's Nova Scotia Prince
20:47 Edward Island New West territories we
20:50 don't know if that's one or two the Yukon which has a v in it for some
20:55 reason yeah we keep it really simple
21:01 oh man oh man uh yeah that it'd be great
21:05 someone needs to capture that and just like Canadian geography JF
21:10 it Canadian geography in 10 seconds or
21:13 less you guys is too big and too cut up
21:16 and ours is too big and just not enough people are there so it doesn't matter
21:19 yeah it's like we don't worry about it it's like Glen is you forgot about uh
21:24 Newland like yeah but there's like six people who live there four of which are
21:29 probably watching the show and going to complain that I said that yeah um yeah
21:33 all right so what are we talking about right so this is really interesting
21:37 because the enforcement of it is where
21:41 like it hits the fan on this one so each
21:44 country in the EO in the EU in the EO in
21:48 the EU gets to decide for itself in the European operation on a limit between 13
21:53 and 16 years old for how old children
21:56 have to be before they can sign up for social media without parental permission
22:00 and they are pushing this on the social media networks to figure out how to
22:05 enforce with stiff penalties like we're
22:08 talking fines of up to 4% of global
22:12 sales if they fail to comply wow wow it
22:19 got real I mean do I
22:23 disagree no actually because there's all
22:27 these rules that everyone seems to agree on and that's that kids should be should
22:34 have their parents permission to participate in some of this stuff because there's a lot of stuff out there
22:38 that they probably shouldn't have access to at 13 years of age and you could
22:43 argue that something like uh social
22:46 media could actually be more detrimental to a kid than like a porn website um um
22:51 I could easily make that argument yeah so and I'm not going to bother because
22:55 I'm sure I always I always frame those things like you could argue cuz I don't
22:58 have a kid so I haven't like actually deeply thought through these things but
23:02 I would be more scared of social media than other stuff yep I mean I mean okay
23:06 there is there is probably some fairly damaging pornographic material as well
23:11 but if we're just talking like you know two people doing a thing which is
23:17 the easiest stuff to find which is the easiest stuff to find um I really don't
23:23 think that's as big of a deal as some of the some of the
23:28 really horrible and I like I hate to use the bullying word because it almost it
23:33 it sounds less severe than some of the some of the stuff people can go through
23:36 on social media there's even the small bits where you're like trying to give them a positive outlook on life and all
23:42 this kind of stuff and like social media is largely just a tank of hatred yeah I
23:46 mean it really depends on who you surround yourself with on it but that's
23:50 that's something trending stuff too that I don't think every 13-year-old is Savvy
23:54 enough to have that figured out yet and I think that's why they put these age restrictions in place um and you can say
23:59 well I was ready when I was 13 and that's great and so was I actually and
24:03 my parents recognized that and let me have a
24:06 computer so it would have been fine everything would have been fine um my
24:11 parents were like you can have a computer but we're going to put in the middle of like everything yeah and
24:16 that's that's the way I'm going to do it is like yeah you can use the tablet use
24:19 it on the couch over there um so the social media Services
24:25 dislike this for obvious reasons it adds a barrier to entry for their platforms
24:29 and it means that they they can't really just kind of go oh well oh we we didn't
24:34 see we uh you know uh she she said she
24:38 was legal you know so I I showed her all
24:41 those ads even though that's you know there's legislation that says I can't do
24:46 that and I did all these things her her current like enrollment is said as an
24:49 elementary school but she had a really good fake I couldn't
24:53 tell it's like yeah that actually has never held up um so I don't really
24:59 understand why it's held up thus far in this case so yep yeah let's let's see
25:04 how that let's see how that goes um the companies will not be allowed to divulge
25:07 information that they have received for a particular purpose without the permission of the person concerned so
25:11 they're basically just um tightening down the laws and honestly though as
25:15 much as I'm kind of going yeah well this seems like a good idea uh I do also
25:20 understand it's really not that simple and sometimes she has a really good fake
25:24 ID um and it's really really hard to tell so
25:29 one one potentially very negative thing that I see coming out of this is that in
25:33 order for these sites to validate uh that these people are indeed
25:39 uh overage or that they do indeed have parental permission is that they could
25:43 become even more strict about you providing proof of who you are um
25:47 something that you know many internet privacy Advocates
25:51 are seriously against when I heard this
25:54 I just assumed that wow that's really shitty I
25:59 just assumed that you would need like a parent's Twitter account to be like like
26:04 send an email to this person and invite them to the program that's the only way
26:08 that they can join and like I ass well I assumed that a parent could Define email
26:13 addresses so like don't let this person register they're not old enough or
26:17 whatever right but I don't know how you could verify that you own it maybe you
26:21 have to like click confirm on the other end of the email or something to agree
26:25 that you're not allowed to have an account but yeah if it has to be some
26:29 sort of ID registration that's actually kind of sketchy yep so there's there's
26:33 the the the answer is never that simple
26:37 um and speaking of answer never being that simple if only getting rid of Isis
26:43 was as simple as weaponized AI uh so
26:47 this was posted by novas ball in the Forum original article here is from um
26:53 wow my eyes are so tired e Technics or
26:56 UK business I got e Technics up here we go Boom the Pentagon wants $155
27:02 billion for weaponized AI in
27:06 2017 15 billion mind you if all the
27:10 government can do with what was it 56 million is manag to create a drone
27:15 registry I'm actually not worried about them making much progress also to be
27:19 fair a lot of what it lists in here who knows what they're actually going to do
27:22 but a lot of what it listen here is making the human more effective in
27:26 combat and they're talking about things like exos skill wearable devices Cooperative systems um smart missiles
27:32 and stuff what makes me assume that it's not necessarily only that is they're
27:37 totally doing literally all of those things already yeah so I I think it's
27:41 actually very safe to say that that has nothing to do with what they're doing
27:45 because uh they're definitely doing where devices already they already have
27:50 exoskeletons I'm sure they already have Cooperative systems for drones and uh
27:55 planes to fly together and they definitely have missiles already so um
27:59 so get get this we'll work closely with Congress to make weaponized AI program
28:04 cost effective and the work will be classified of course it will be
28:07 classified so so whatever they're telling us they're also telling us the
28:12 work will be classified yeah yeah so rip
28:16 oh well guess that's all we really have to say about that because yeah it's
28:19 class all the rest of it is classified and we don't know what it is Rip we
28:24 don't know what it is well it's it's possible we'll never know what it is um
28:29 you know it is amazing the kind of stuff
28:33 that gets kept under that gets like kind of swept under the rug by the US
28:36 government CU what is it well there's that law where something like 50 years
28:40 after something or 75 years or however long it is like crazy records can be
28:45 opened and like I was listening to Sports Talk Radio it's no secret it's
28:49 the only thing I listen to in the car
28:52 and I forget who it is he's some like baseball um like alltime
28:58 uh he was betting on no no betting on
29:02 games something something what's his name Pete Rose there we go so uh Pete
29:07 Rose after years of public denial admitted to betting on baseball uh when
29:12 he wasn't playing there's evidence to support that he was betting while he was
29:16 still playing but some of the records for this are sealed by the US government
29:22 and I'm kind of sitting here going like they were talking about this and they're like yeah but we won't know until you
29:27 know the records get unsealed I was like why why is a baseball player right like
29:32 what you got to be kidding me like is this a matter of National Security did he hit a ball too hard and hit a
29:36 freaking UFO out of the sky like you got to be kidding me here
29:41 um so I I actually forget why I got on the subject of that it was just it
29:45 reminded me it's funny the stuff that comes out of there though
29:48 like man some War stuff gets really
29:52 weird like some of the things they're researching which gets opened up and
29:56 it's like the freak I didn't oh yeah I'm not going
30:01 to get into it anyways all right Germany attempting to end hate speech on the
30:06 internet uh this was posted by Aries creger on the Forum and I guess I I wish
30:13 them a lot more luck and success than I wish the Pentagon on weaponizing
30:18 AI um but I don't think that's going to do much for either my favorite two notes
30:23 on here is unclear how these things will work and also unclear what the appeal
30:27 process c will look like so basically the whole thing is unclear no one
30:33 understands how it's supposed to happen but yeah complaints will be examined by
30:36 special teams inside the companies that will decide whether the content violates
30:42 German laws and this is social media
30:45 companies okay so they've got special teams to examine the content a Twitter
30:51 spokesperson declined to comment representatives from Facebook Google and
30:55 the German government did not immediately respond to requests for
30:58 comment from C and like would this mean
31:01 that like lonus Tech tips would have to have a special team for the
31:05 Forum wow I hope not because like a lot
31:09 of those kind of sites aren't really going to be able to survive if they need
31:13 like actually dedicated members cuz like here's the thing to consider is like
31:17 while we do moderate the public forum we might not necessarily be able to hit it
31:21 within that time frame and there's nothing that we can really do about private messages because we don't
31:25 monitor them for privacy reasons
31:28 yeah so you can report them if you're a forum user you can report the private
31:33 message and if you report it it invites us into the conversation we can see it
31:36 yes but outside of that no so um yeah well if the German
31:43 government calls I'll just be like H Misa noen thank you bye
31:51 so was that like jar jar mixed with okay
31:56 okay no I don't think I is Misa in
32:02 German jerk I was trying to figure out what you mixed though and I was like
32:06 wait charar I was trying to think of like
32:10 what language oh all right sure so this
32:15 was posted by Nova sorry I am so tired this week
32:20 GI um George Hots has built a
32:23 self-driving car in his garage raising
32:26 the obvious question why was this so complicated because
32:31 there's really nothing to crash into in a garage oh no and how will he keep from
32:38 dying must be very low emissions well it could be a vented
32:42 garage I guess it could be a vented garage do they have that like is that like is that like an antiu suicide like
32:48 feature of houses that would be kind of
32:51 cool right like if they just made it like Canadian law you have them closed
32:56 and then like the vents closed and then if it detects CO2 could just open yeah
33:02 and like fans could turn on or something like it seems like like in our in our
33:06 rubber room but no because they tap the thing oh right because you sit in the
33:11 car so well excuse me for not knowing like the most about I'll try not to
33:16 right oh yeah good call okay um so
33:19 moving forward he yeah anyways th this
33:22 dude is like really smart but has an
33:26 interesting personality he was the first person as far as this might I'm going
33:30 totally Off Script here but I think he was the first person to hack the iPhone
33:33 in order to get it onto carriers that weren't AT&T this is geohot very well
33:38 known on the internet for the hackings of the things that's what his car looks
33:41 like right now pretty badass um he's
33:45 worked for a lot of like really crazy companies but not for very
33:50 long he likes to quit um and then move
33:53 on because he likes to um say that he
33:57 knows everything thing and is much further than that company and then be like well this isn't challenging enough
34:01 and then move on which is why he lives in his garage but also why he does Super
34:05 badass stuff like this um he had meetings with Elon Musk Elon Musk
34:10 offered him millions and millions and millions of dollars if his thing was
34:13 able to beat the one that they're already planning on replacing that's in the Teslas and this guy eventually was
34:19 like you changed the terms too much so nope elon's email back was literally
34:24 just okay so they were done talking now
34:28 um his self-driving car is largely built
34:31 uh built around learning so the Prototype will learn from other drivers
34:35 and right now has been learning from that dude um so if you're going to drive
34:39 this car hopefully you think that that dude drives really really really good
34:45 um really good but theoretically over
34:48 time it will learn from a large amount of drivers and should be okay my only
34:53 problem with that is that it totally leaves room for error um yeah all we
34:58 need to set back self-driving car legislation by a decade or more bad
35:04 competition is is a crappy product that isn't ready for prime time I don't think
35:09 this dude's going to release a crappy product he's actually like really really
35:13 really really good but but it's still scary yeah yeah it grabs data from other
35:19 drivers and learns from their choices um right now it's learning off of him it's
35:23 a really interesting setup and he plans on selling it for like surprisingly
35:27 really cheap yeah apparently the cameras that it's using it's like a a kit of
35:31 about six cameras that would be similar to the kind that you would find in a
35:35 smartphone um So the plan is to sell
35:38 camera and software for $1,000 each to automakers or to Consumers yeah so you
35:44 could buy this kit and implement it in your own car which is pretty cool yeah
35:48 if you also happen to have the you know techronics know how yeah to to make that
35:54 happen so this next oh man this next
35:57 topic I actually oh you know what no before we get into this next topic
36:04 sponsors so our first sponsor today is fresh books the books that keep you
36:09 fresh you know what's really good when you go to a bookstore and you pick up a
36:13 new book and it smells really good because it smells fresh I'm into that
36:16 I'm into that but that's actually nothing to do with freshbooks so
36:20 freshbooks is a cloud-based accounting software for small businesses that lets
36:24 them get organized get paid faster track
36:27 hours and expenses and all of that without necessarily being a a numbers a
36:33 numbers person so if you're running a small dance studio or you're doing
36:37 massage on the side or you're doing massage on the back or massage on the
36:43 front or sorry I got sidetracked there
36:46 yeah abdominal abdominal massage roll massage you know yeah it's like rolling
36:51 the dough massage um sorry what are we
36:54 talking about right so you could rolling the dough you could be a
36:58 Baker um I thought you say roll in the dough by using fresh books to invoice oh
37:02 that's good too oh yeah I like that one better than mine um
37:07 so so basically you can keep track of your hours you can uh send bills to your
37:13 clients you can accept deposits you can get paid by your clients you can see
37:17 when they've seen the invoice so you can be like yo sup you should probably pay
37:21 me right about now although I wouldn't recommend you know going all drug dealer
37:25 collections on it yeah maybe maybe still have to actually run your business well
37:30 which is exactly the point of this is you can spend your time running your business doing your work instead of
37:34 dinking around with complicated accounting software all the time so if
37:37 you want to try it out for free visit freshbooks.com slw and claim your free
37:42 trial and enter when in the how did You Hear About Us section and they'll be
37:47 like no we said how and you'll be like when and they'll be like
37:53 how they'll be like who and you'll be like when and the what
37:59 what um speaking of what speaking of
38:03 what the hell sorry I did a thing I did a thing that was wrong and okay tunnel
38:11 bear if you want to do the thing that is
38:15 wrong you go ahead you do tunnel there I clearly can't handle this today if you
38:18 want to do the thing that is wrong in your country but might be right in
38:22 someone else's country you could use tunnel bear or if you just want to cover
38:26 up your tracks or whatever I don't know
38:29 it's a VPN it's free if you use 500 megabytes of data in one month are you
38:33 advising people on how to do I'm just I don't know I'm leaving it up to them
38:38 people can do whatever they want that's what tunnel bear is about you can hide
38:41 yourself behind a bear it's pretty cool I actually love the tunnel bear like
38:46 naming scheme and pictures and I actually use it all the time now I'm not even just saying that because it's a
38:49 sponsor spot it's running on my work computer literally this second and it's
38:53 a nice little wooden dashboard I like the clicky sound that the button makes whatever none of that's important they
38:58 have apps for iOS Android PC and mac and also a Chrome extension I just use the
39:02 Windows app not the Chrome extension but whatever um and it lets you tunnel to up
39:06 to 16 different countries um and one thing that I like is they also have just
39:11 what is the closest tunnel as an option which is actually pretty cool if you're
39:15 not currently worried about getting outside of your own country in order to
39:19 access a service but still want to cover up your tracks whether it's for advertisement targeting reasons or other
39:24 reasons um you can just go what's the closest tunnel and then it's probably
39:27 nice and fast I noticed no perceivable speed difference in just browsing and
39:32 doing other various basic things on my computer when doing that so that was
39:35 cool um they've fixed the annoying parts of VPN usage for personal use there's no
39:40 need to mess around with Port configurations DNS or other router settings or whatever you just download
39:45 the thing install the thing log into the thing press the knobby button onto on
39:49 and then it works so yeah if you want to
39:53 get unlimited data you have to pay for it but you can save 10% by going to
39:58 be.com and finally good old Squarespace
40:03 isang the funny thing about dang it that
40:06 is exactly where I was going with that really the funny thing about Squarespace
40:11 is that their sites look great regardless of the aspect ratio of your
40:15 screen that is exactly where I was going
40:18 with it oh none of this is scripted you ruin everything um Squarespace build it
40:25 beautiful thank you that was SC red so they've got 247 support via live chat
40:31 and email it's only eight bucks a month for the management tools to manage your
40:35 website as well as your web hosting service and uh oh that's to start with
40:41 obviously they do have more expensive plans Commerce is included with every
40:44 website and the templates look great on any size screen regardless of whether
40:49 you want to build a blog or uh or uh like you know informational site about
40:54 barrels or crates or five gallon buckets
40:57 or whatever the case may be um and you
41:01 can start a trial on Squarespace with no credit card required and start building
41:06 your website today visit squarespace.com and use offer code Linus to save 10% and
41:12 remember Squarespace is not just for you
41:16 Squarespace is for anyone who wants to build a website and wants it to actually
41:20 be easy and still look not like crap and when I say not like crap I mean they
41:25 actually look really good as long as you don't intentionally find photos of crap
41:29 and upload them to Squarespace you could probably still make it look good you could probably still make it look good
41:33 with Squarespace so uh there you go guys squarespace.com offer code Linus save
41:38 10% Squarespace build it
41:43 beautiful someone tweeted them the other day and included me in it and was like
41:47 you guys should really get a commercial of just Luke running around yelling
41:51 Squarespace build it beautiful at random people no they should
41:55 not we fun they are so much the problem
41:59 is people would just be like scared and like what just happened and they
42:03 wouldn't get the point at all just running up to people squish B pet
42:08 beautiful then running like no one would get it it wouldn't work well as a
42:11 marketing campaign okay well hold on a second let's think let's talk about
42:14 what's effective as a marketing campaign if you were to if you were to do this to
42:18 adults I don't think it would be effective but if you were to scream it at
42:21 children you could actually scar them for
42:24 life why is that okay remember so hold on hold on so you so you like
42:29 paint your teeth red right and you put in like yellow contacts or whatever so
42:34 you like walk up to people with your eyes closed so you walk so you walk up
42:37 to people with your eyes closed and your mouth closed or like these kids right be
42:43 like beautiful and you scream in their face
42:46 right sorry did I spit on you it's got all like the laptop my bad um it's fine
42:52 I I think that they would not only remember that forever but they would
42:56 tell their friends probably it would be a very wellknown
43:00 campaign yeah V it would be pretty viral I think I don't know if it would be
43:04 viral in like an it's a virus type way
43:08 yeah yeah yeah um wow some of my best SL
43:13 worst ideas really come when I'm super sleep deprived like this I told I told
43:17 you my writing thing right if I write a script at like 4 or5 in the morning it's
43:22 considerably better like the length it's
43:25 it's like it's it's it's tight it's packed with really good information it's
43:29 funny all that kind of stuff and it's I do it really quickly done the whole
43:33 thing in like next you're gon to tell me that you could do that in the afternoon if I let you bring some reefer into the
43:37 office some reer oh my God apparently
43:41 this office runs on that stuff that I'm not going to name the drink not alcohol
43:47 the the uh
43:52 uh what is that I don't even know what that is really yeah it's that like
43:56 insane vanity energy drink that John's been totally hyped up on over the last
44:01 like week and a half oh he has and every once in a while he's like he'll be like
44:04 I don't feel very good I was like how much did you have he's like two I'm like
44:07 don't do that oh is there a reason we're not
44:12 saying the name of it like are we in negotiations with them to be a sponsor
44:15 or something or I just I just I don't know why we have it I don't know oh okay
44:21 we have like a lot of it for some reason oh okay is this a Colton initiative yeah
44:26 okay okay sure well whatever um okay right so
44:31 the reason that this next topic reminded me of our sponsor spot for the day is
44:36 that it actually involves one of our
44:39 sponsors um not on the show today but uh
44:43 Dollar Shave Club is actually one of our oldest
44:47 sponsors um going back they they were
44:50 actually them and Squarespace were were I think the first couple who were not
44:55 tech companies we're just like yeah we think what you guys do is cool we're not
45:00 a tech company but we figure like we figure squ is kind of everyone needs a
45:05 website though you don't have to like it's not Intel they don't make Hardware
45:10 they're not a tech by Tech I meant Hardware to be clear yeah yes yes
45:14 software is technology and quite frankly Innovative new business models are also
45:18 say razor kind of are too a lot of
45:21 things are techn arguably this piece of foam is technology if you really want to
45:25 start getting into it fire is technology thank
45:31 you yeah all right so basically um
45:37 technology Gillette is suing Dollar Shave Club for patent
45:43 infringement and um you could say that Gillette has razor
45:49 burn
45:53 wow I was trying to think of a funny hook for a topic call out I couldn't
45:58 think of one but I just got yeah that is a real slap in the face to H Dollar
46:03 Shave Club there nice job good one okay
46:07 so a suit was filed in a in a Delaware Court stating that
46:13 Dollar Shave Club razors infringe on a Gillette patent for the way that the
46:17 razors are designed as well as the materials used on the blades Gilette
46:21 says that Dollar Shave Club has damaged its business and threatened its
46:24 intellectual property I'm sure they've damaged business sure damaged their business quite heavily actually in the
46:29 best possible way calling for an injunction for a Dollar Shave Club to
46:33 stop selling razors that violate the patent as well as compensation for
46:38 damages a Dollar Shave Club representative said they're looking into
46:41 the situation y so basically um Proctor and
46:46 Gamble is going to try to um Sue away
46:50 the only competition that they really have and go back to being uh basically a
46:55 monopoly I don't think sh is Gillette tried their own club thing yep and it
47:00 probably just burned and failed super hard if I recall correctly their pricing
47:05 wasn't very good um I don't know if it was available in Canada I remember
47:08 seeing an ad for it at some point but yeah they just called it like Gillette
47:11 shave club or something like that like they they didn't even try yeah they
47:14 didn't even they didn't even try like to like like dollar beard club or whatever
47:20 it's called that thing that's ridiculous
47:23 but I get it yeah at least it's a
47:26 different I guess that one actually weirded me out
47:30 a lot too I was just like they shouldn't have done it they should have just
47:33 called it something else and then they even if they just called it beard Club
47:38 yeah and they're like their promotional video is a straight ripoff of the Dollar
47:41 Shave Club promotional video um I wonder
47:45 how they're doing like do they still exist dollar be beard Club I don't know
47:48 I'm sure they probably exist um a monthly subscription thing so like if I
47:52 recall correctly even their site was like really really similarly laid out
47:58 yeah to the point where I contacted Dollar Shave Club when I heard about it I was like is this you guys oh and
48:03 they're just like no that would have been smart though find the dudes that
48:08 want to shave with a razor and find the dudes that don't want to shave with a razor and cater to both of them wow
48:12 their site is really slow or it's oh how
48:15 it works okay yeah so it's like this
48:19 exact accelerators same can you make your beard grow faster um use these
48:26 amazing thck sounds snake oil it's probably oils
48:32 probably oils it might be a real thing I just I've just never heard of that yeah
48:37 um so anyway yeah I guess dud from uh this is really interesting um oh it
48:45 is this is really interesting apparently Dollar Shave Club has more than two
48:49 million subscribers wow which I actually
48:52 had like I had no idea how many subscribers they have I just you know we
48:57 work with them they sponsor us we talk about Dollar Shave Club I mean I never
49:01 actually was like hey could I just get a copy of your financial so that I can for
49:06 my own curiosity just kind of know so
49:09 they they have products ranging from what is it about a dollar to $9 is the
49:14 top end one um yeah per month so what
49:17 that means if they have two million subscribers is let's average it but
49:22 let's lean towards sort of the lower end let's say they get $4.50 per subscriber or something like
49:27 that what isn't that exactly an average not tune toward towards the L no because
49:31 the uh the next one up is higher than the middle oh I okay yeah yeah so 4 and
49:37 half time 2 million for some reason that just Bing searched for me you have got
49:42 to be kidding me this has to be a new Behavior I don't think I've seen it do
49:47 this before so that would be $9 million a
49:50 month wow yeah plus but butter one wipe
49:55 Charlie's not bad yeah but you have to factor in
50:00 material cost oh I know it's not it's not pure profit yeah I do understand
50:04 that they actually have a warehouse they they're actually giving you razors they
50:07 actually ship physical product to you so so get this get this you guys 4.5 time 2
50:16 million okay if I press enter instead of
50:19 just opening it in calculator which would be the obvious sensible thing to
50:23 do I know it I know it did just give me the answer here it Bings it please never
50:28 Bing anything Windows 10 never ever Bing
50:31 anything not even once hate
50:35 Bing and I don't hate it like out of SPID or anything it just doesn't work
50:39 someone said I can't believe he used a calculator he actually does do a lot of
50:42 mental math just when you have 7,000 people watching you live right now and
50:47 180 200 and something thousand people watching you later you might as well
50:51 check your math and you're also producing the show that you are you know
50:55 one of only and hosting and all that kind of stuff
50:59 and like if you've been in high LEL education you probably check like I
51:03 found that even dudes that could do basically any Mental Math would just
51:07 check their stuff on a calculator anyways and then if what they thought
51:10 was going to happen didn't happen on the calculator then they wouldn't make sure
51:13 their calculator wasn't broken they would make sure that they input it
51:17 correct and last but not least we had a data loss thing this week and I haven't
51:20 slept much and my daughter's sick so I was up at 5:45 this morning and I didn't
51:25 sleep until two last night so I'm super duper tired having a second input for
51:30 your math is not a bad so exclusive on
51:33 techbot overclocking locked Intel Sky
51:37 CPUs is now possible
51:42 D so ASRock has apparently implemented
51:46 this already on some of their motherboards with a BIOS update that
51:50 enables overclocking for nonk SKS which pretty much the benefit
51:57 of a casc is that you can overclock it
52:01 um because I mean yes they are clocked higher out of the box but if you can
52:06 overclock a lot of the time the binning differences from one chip to another one
52:11 unless you're talking like oh I really need that extra you know 67 of a watt of
52:16 idle power consumption or whatever uh is it doesn't affect the final overclock
52:20 and clock speed that much there's a lot of other things that they've been for operating voltage temperatures uh power
52:25 consumption all that other kind of stuff so being able to overclock locked skyl
52:31 processors kind of a big deal the update will be rolled out soon and the
52:35 speculation is that although ASRock is the first other motherboard makers will
52:40 follow so uh the vendors do need to implement a specific workaround for this
52:44 and you can bet that Intel is not going to be thrilled about it I was just going to say Intel's not going to be stoked on
52:49 that nope they are not but quite frankly I
52:52 mean Intel has already started to relax
52:55 the death grip when they released the Pentium anniversary edition they gave us
52:58 a nonk unlocked skew um I hope that this
53:03 is a move towards you know maybe we just won't
53:07 lock this stuff down anymore because yeah maybe we could
53:11 differentiate with different features like giving them more cores or like you
53:15 know higher end virtualization technology capabilities more PCI Express
53:20 Lanes I am all over that virtualization stuff right now I I I am loving it well
53:24 the difference is that I've always loved the idea but I've never had the time to
53:29 sit down and go okay I am going to learn VMware today it's just never really
53:34 happened for me and unraid has a made it really simple and B given me a reason to
53:39 deploy it on systems other than just to
53:43 have virtualization um the fact that so many of our systems are also are are NZ are
53:49 overpowered nazes it's like we are like
53:52 a prime candidate for unraid because we've got all these Nas machines that
53:56 are chalk full of zons and a bunch of RAM and it's like yeah if I could if I
54:01 could have like overpowered nzs that go down all the time no well that's whole
54:06 other conversation but if I could use some of that CPU power on my overpowered
54:10 nazes to maybe that's why they're going down all the time render watch folders
54:14 or whatever else then uh then great that's good news love
54:20 it this is hilarious it's already patched by the way the last one was from
54:23 aing oh yeah um already ped but
54:28 um and the the headline here is is very
54:33 uh sensationalist because it's already patched what how do I make this ad go
54:38 away what the crap Life Hacker oh my God
54:41 it covers the headline stop okay if I
54:44 click expand does it go away no expand
54:48 does nothing wrecked uh you can read the
54:52 headline in the URL what the crap
54:56 crap okay yeah thank you you can break
55:00 into a Linux system by pressing
55:03 backspace and then the headline it's 28
55:06 times I don't know why it's yeah yeah um
55:11 so yeah do you want to run through this uh basically as far as I knew you
55:17 literally just press in the bootloader press backspace 28 times and then it
55:22 asks you for your username to access the grub rescue shell and then you can
55:27 access all the things yep so that was patched really
55:32 fast and that's about it I mean it's one of
55:36 those things where it's like who would even do that so the so the fact that it
55:41 sat there for what was it like eight years or something like that um was
55:44 uncovered by a couple of security researchers in Spain you need and you
55:48 need like direct physical access Y and
55:53 like yeah like it's not the end of the
55:56 world either it's pretty funny but it's pretty careless and pretty funny and uh
56:03 yeah hopefully hopefully no one was actually compromised by it they they
56:08 patched it really really quickly though fast yeah uh seates CFO this was
56:13 originally posted by Z mule on the Forum figures hard drives are going to stay
56:18 relevant for the next 20 years the original article here is from NN
56:23 Tech um so I I see it's really funny cuz
56:27 like a lot of the a lot of the the blurb here I I really you know don't really
56:32 understand the relevance the very first hard disk drives were demonstrated by
56:37 IBM back in 1956 the hard drive has held up for all
56:43 these you know 60 years and so it's probably got another 15 to 20 years left
56:48 you know what the past is actually zero indication of the future um especially
56:53 when it comes to high technology you know what else you know what else held
56:56 had had lasted a really long time phones without touch
57:00 screens where are they where are they now oh yeah remember remember how
57:05 quickly that transition happened between the phone that's attached to the wall
57:09 and the phone that you can carry around the house with you that was like
57:13 overnight like over a span of like a couple years everyone in their dog went
57:18 from like twirling it's really funny cuz
57:21 you watch old movies and like the girls on the bed with the feet behind her
57:25 twirling the card and it's just like there's something off about
57:30 this we had like a lot of people that that I knew did this too is you'd have
57:34 one corded phone and it was the old one that just somehow kept working and you'd
57:38 keep it in the house just in case all the cordless phones died it was like ow
57:42 whatever you can use that one I guess while the other one charges then just
57:46 switch so uh basically if people even have house phones anymore that was a
57:50 huge switch yeah yeah I don't have one
57:53 we don't have a line at the office it's finally starting to get to the the point
57:56 where they're starting to remove home phone from forms sign up forms have you
58:00 noticed that no not a ton of them but I've noticed a few sign up forms there
58:04 don't bother with the home phone line anymore it's funny or or the mandatory
58:10 flag is not on home phone it's on mobile phone I've seen that too wow I haven't
58:14 seen that before that one I think I've only seen that once all right so uh hard
58:19 drives to stay relevant for the next 15 yearses um to stay this this is great
58:25 one of the uses that to stay relevant hdds need to keep increasing
58:30 capacity according to the tech road map hard drives will rise to 100 terabytes
58:35 by 2025 and in the coming years they will
58:38 adopt new writing techniques to be fair the win terabyte drives came out I was
58:43 like wow I can just get one of those and put everything on it yeah it'll keep
58:47 everything forever now I like four terab hard drive I'm like H I kind of need
58:52 like twice that amount of space I do still have some major concern concerns
58:56 about 100 tab drives there's some good there's actually some good graphs in the
59:00 uh in the article here so here we have perpendicular magnetic recording so
59:05 that's that's now then we have perpendicular magnetic recording but
59:09 like more better so plus um then there's heat assisted magnetic recording that is
59:13 apparently going to get us
59:16 uh somewhere in the neighborhood of so here's where we're at now 2015 is is our
59:21 Baseline so that's apparently going to get us up to
59:26 wait is this a is this a logarithmic
59:29 scale uh yeah I think this is 100 yeah
59:33 oh crying out loud okay well that does
59:36 not make my life easier right now so that gets us to um percentages what are
59:41 what are what are we at so we're we're at about 10 terabytes right now so
59:47 halfway to 100 would be what ah math was
59:52 never a strong point for me like like this kind of math anyway so 100
59:56 terabytes by 2025 and in the year 2019 sort of
60:00 somewhere in the neighborhood of it looks like see this is but this is a
60:04 measure of aerial density in terabytes per inch squared so I have to also
60:09 convert that to the capacities of the drives that we have today screw the
60:13 there's other there's there's yeah screw the graph there's other factors like how
60:16 many platters they're going to put in a drive so things like helium fil drives
60:20 will allow for more platters within a drive um so they figure with air and
60:26 inside you can get around five discs with helium you can get around seven um
60:31 with also power consumption decrease as well as a temperature decrease so
60:34 there's a bunch of stuff that's coming to increase the aerial density and
60:38 increase the number of platters and and make them higher capacity but here is my
60:44 concern while over the last five to
60:47 eight years we have seen a huge
60:50 Improvement in capacity of drives like I
60:53 still remember building my first computer in high school when I was like
60:58 so it would have been about 10 11 12 years ago I don't know how old I am um
61:01 about 12 years ago and like you know 120
61:05 gigs was pretty good and now I can have an 8 tbte drive the problem is that
61:09 they've only about 2 and a2x in speed in that time and we're running into that
61:15 problem that usb2 drives ran into where
61:18 the flash capacity got so high that you
61:22 could literally have a thumb drive that would take you several days to fill up
61:27 and it's like what is the actual point of this
61:30 anymore it's gotten to the point where this is just kind of stupid now um so a
61:36 drive that takes so long to fill and so
61:39 long to read all the data off of becomes very difficult to back up uh becomes
61:45 kind of Impractical in some ways so I I
61:48 I don't know I don't know I guess um you know hey maybe I'm totally wrong about
61:52 this and we'll uh and we'll cross that bridge when we get to it and they'll
61:56 find ways to also dramatically increase the reliability because if you know
61:59 you're going to write 100 terabytes of data to a drive at a time I sure as heck
62:03 hope that that's not going to you know make one mistake in a thousand you know
62:08 billion or whatever 100 billion there we go 100 billion yeah it can't make one
62:12 mistake in a 100 billion or you've got a
62:17 problem yeah that's a little scary to be fair bites that's not even bits times
62:21 eight if if you're going to be backups a lot of people do incremental backups mhm
62:26 instead of like waiting till they have a giant thing and then backing it up
62:29 that's true but
62:33 um I mean if you if you're doing a seed copy if you buy a new drive you will
62:39 have to put stuff on it if the objective is to buy that new drive or even even
62:42 doing something like if you're using a product like gun raid doing a parody
62:47 sync that will take a long time oh yeah reading 100 terabytes of of data off of
62:53 all of your drives while you build a parody desk is going to take a really
62:57 long time it's going to suck so I don't know one thing that I'm really
63:01 interested in is the fact that we still have data caps and data caps are even
63:05 like the amount of data caps is increasing not necessarily you mean like
63:08 mobile data uh no oh internet data yeah
63:11 oh yeah yeah um and like the amount of places that have data caps seem to be
63:16 increasing the data caps themselves are not increasing that would be nice if
63:19 they would increase to the point where they don't matter they're not um but the
63:23 amount of places that have them is increasing yet game sizes and Netflix
63:29 and all this kind of stuff is massively increasing the amount that we need to
63:33 download um YouTube in higher definition
63:37 Netflix at all um game sizes being like
63:41 all 50 gigs or above these days um like
63:45 I'm luckily my ipeed uh seems to mostly
63:48 ignore it I'm over my data cap every month and I have the most expensive one
63:52 I can get yep like
63:56 I don't even feel like I do anything crazy like I actually don't feel like I
64:00 do there's lots of things that I would love to do that I can't because I'm like
64:03 well I would be way over my data cap and they definitely pissed to me that Shaw
64:06 Shaw recently dialed back like all their services um and the problem is that I
64:11 don't have good telis service in my area like you've got their you've got their
64:15 Fiber service which is like good for you buddy that's awesome and like I spent
64:20 nothing for me I spent way too much it's my highest monthly bill outside of rent
64:25 and seriously and I still hit their data cap all the time um whereas like in my
64:30 area they're they're still ADSL and it's 25 down one up or something stupid like
64:35 that I was like take a hike I think I can get unlimited data but I have to
64:39 spend like 40 more bucks a month or something ouch which is just like holy
64:43 crap I basically have to get an entirely new internet plan right well I actually
64:49 have a plan for for my house if I can find a way to put like a tower on top of
64:54 the lonus media group building just Beam
64:58 Beam your not not limited internet from here over there so we actually got a
65:03 really cool piece of equipment from ubiquity networks is here now it's here
65:08 yeah it's here um so we've got a dish based uh five gigahertz long distance
65:13 like one of the ones we have can do 500 megabit over around 200
65:16 kilometers um wow now that's really far
65:21 yeah it's like actually like like you it
65:24 would take you two hours to Drive yeah wow that's really cool um but you have
65:30 to have a direct line of sight so if when we're like really old and retired
65:34 we should get like cabins but then have like land
65:40 networking play Halo one when L when lonus Media Group you know takes off and
65:46 we can all just retire and like live in the woods because whatever yeah no oh I
65:51 didn't mean like a vacation cabin I meant like a we just don't want to be
65:54 near Society for whatever yeah so so basically you know we just kind of go
65:59 okay we tell our ISP like okay how far how close can you get fiber okay get it
66:04 to one of us and then we just build like a we build our own Tower um people were
66:09 telling me someone was telling me that apparently there's a community that that
66:12 did this really like a remote community that was just like we are tired of this
66:17 bull crap and they used this kind of Gear to to bring in one really great
66:22 connection they like they built their own ISP Network thing I was like that is
66:26 so cool that's pretty sick that is so cool like did they one did they run one
66:31 line and then like flush it out or did they beam it all the way over they they
66:34 no they ran a line I think and then they're beaming it to all the remote
66:38 like houses and stuff and people are just building Towers to receive it so
66:42 cool that's a really cool way to get away from dialup I mean I actually just
66:45 for Giggles I I got the ISP that so we had to build out fiber to this location
66:50 I wasn't here already in fact no one was here already Shaw was like um yeah I
66:55 guess if you want service you can like check with other people in the building
66:59 and see if they want it to and if you can get enough people then we'll bring it out like are you freaking kidding me
67:05 no your entire job as the Monopoly
67:08 holder is to build the stupid infrastructure I'm sorry we're in a new
67:12 neighborhood I'm sorry it's not convenient for
67:15 you anyway any anyway for fiber you kind
67:19 of do have to deal with that so so we had to build out fiber to the building
67:22 here in addition to our monthly bill so for giggle
67:26 I got I got a quote on what it would cost to build up fiber to my
67:31 house uh I think it was going to cost something to the tune of 10 to1
67:37 15,000 but think about this for a
67:40 second if you were in a place that's
67:43 like in in an area like mine where there's a bunch of bylaws and this and
67:47 that you wouldn't be able to get away with this but if you were in a a more
67:51 remote Community where you know people actually get together at the Town Hall
67:56 you know once a quarter and talk about Community issues and you kind of went
68:00 okay look guys it's going to cost us 10 or $15,000 to get fiber built out to
68:05 like this spot but if we put up a if we put up a little Tower and we if we pay
68:10 just one monthly bill we can all have low latency high-speed internet that we
68:16 otherwise wouldn't be able to have if we all just kind of pull together and I see
68:20 people getting behind that I could see see
68:23 people uh Grand
68:27 Pap has farmet like dial up Farm can't watch my
68:32 videos yeah straight up doesn't work yep
68:36 my dad has downloaded them and like sent
68:39 them to him where he could download them over long long periods of time to watch
68:43 before like what yeah there's not many times
68:48 where I dropped the like cuz it's 2015 but like how are people still on diala
68:53 yeah it's like actually it's 15 how are people still on and here's the crazy
68:57 thing about it to me too is like why aren't isps just offering this service
69:01 then cu the dishes are not that expensive like yes they're expensive but
69:05 if I'm charging a customer you know because that's that's one monthly bill
69:08 yeah if I'm charging a customer $80 a month or whatever I can eat a few
69:12 hundred dollars in equipment cost I mean they already do it on the on the well
69:16 okay they don't actually some isps do charge you a rental fee for your modem
69:19 so okay never mind but then then fine
69:22 make it a rental fee then make it an additional 10 15 bucks a month over the
69:25 course of threeyear Deal or whatever that works out to um you know if you've
69:30 got a 200 km range on something like this I don't see it being impossible I
69:34 think they just don't feel like it yeah it's not even about that there's no
69:38 profit to be made in it it's just about that it's not enough it sounds work it
69:42 sounds like hard work yeah it sounds like actual work to actually uh I don't
69:45 know I guess we'd have to guess we'd have to like put a dish on a tower and
69:49 like oh we have to send someone out there we're probably going to have to pay them extra we're going put them in a
69:53 hotel that sounds like too much yeah like H it's just one internet connection
69:58 or yeah buttheads anyway speaking of
70:02 buttheads we're closing down the show today thank you guys for tuning in we
70:06 will see you again next week same bat Time same bat
70:14 channel oh the intro is not loading
70:18 wrecked we're going have to make the music for it anyways aren't we you know
70:22 how the song goes can you play the song on your phone uh no not in time I'm just
70:26 waiting for the scene to switch we have 7,000 viewers today 7,000 viewers you
70:31 guys rock all 7,000 of you rock people are asking about the cesa bill
70:34 apparently they're trying to hide a cesa bill in a NASA Bill we don't really know that much about American politics please
70:39 look it up it's important cesa is like internet stuff and trying to hide it
70:43 under a NASA budget really pisses me off because I don't want to say no to the
70:46 NASA budget but then we also don't want the cesa bill so like what you should
70:50 probably look it up on your own time because we don't know enough about it okay thanks bye