The WAN Show - AMD Licenses Technology to China! - April 22, 2016
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2016-05-06
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all right oh welcome to the W show guys
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it's Friday I'm broadcasting live from
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the studio here in lovely Langley British Columbia and quite
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frankly I'd rather be at home playing
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games on the HTC Vive I will definitely
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be spending some time on the show today talking about that I will
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definitely acknowledge my my uh unfortunately downgraded but still
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somewhat sexy co-host here and I will definitely tell you all of the topics
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that we are going to be covering on the show today after the
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intro hold on I got this there may even be music today we'll see if I fixed it
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hey also whoa some of you guys were
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asking where Luke is Luke is in a place
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doing a thing the place is called PAX East and uh whoever whoever did up the
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Pax uh thing here doesn't realize that
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Pax is Penny Arcade Expo not a word that
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starts with a p and has two small letters after that's okay Pax 2016 so
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huge thanks to Logitech G and Discord
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for powering our paxis 2016 content yes
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my friends for the first time ever lonus
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Media Group actually had two away teams
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at the same time so Taran and Brandon were down at Nab in
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Las Vegas and before they returned Luke
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burkel and Dennis actually left to go
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cover Pax e so we're going to have like an entire week of show coverage for you
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guys and in the meantime I've been back here in the studio with uh David
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and Ed
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and well I guess that's about it and we've been working on some really cool
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stuff so we've got the review of the iPhone SE coming up we've got uh a power
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bank like battery Bank Showdown coming up we've got um I don't this is a video
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nobody asked for but I was kind of interested in and so I decided to make
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but I've got a video upcoming on ipmi which is a Remote Management interface
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that exists on some motherboards that allows you to log in from anywhere and
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like power on the server power down the server change bio settings even all
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kinds of cool stuff like that so uh so I've been working on some videos and
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they've been working on some videos and it's good stuff and uh okay right so I will I
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will answer those questions that I said I was going to answer this is my new
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co-host her name is kuu or something I'm
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making that up I know she's an actual character from an actual show I don't
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know what it is um I've got people
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talking about wcon L yes yes I go through wcon l in the video I actually
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have some other cool solutions that I guarantee you've never heard of as well
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um yes I know Yoko apparently it's Yoko
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I don't know I'm sorry you know for me it's just you know a pillow um I was on
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Amazon and I was just browsing toys not
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those kinds of toys I was browsing toys and I was just trying to find stuff for
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Channel Super Fun so this was around the time uh leading up to the big move into
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the new studio and so I was just like
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what the hell is this it's a it's a
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waifu pillow you got to be kidding me so I ordered it having no idea what I was
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gonna do like I was I was thinking initially I would try and do some kind
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of a prank where I called people down to help me with something and then like I'd
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have a hidden camera and then I'd be like making out with it or something and
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I'd get like reaction shots from people but we ended up coming up with the
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Channel Super Fun where we did the cuddle challenge I think that ended up
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being a lot better anyway I don't know how well that video is doing you know
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honestly I feel like I feel like Channel Super Fun just should do so much better
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but uh like nothing ever really catches
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on for us on that channel like it doesn't go it doesn't go viral or
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whatever else I've got people telling me to get another human the office is like
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empty I mean do you really want me to pull Nick light in here huh come on
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that'd be like the worst thing ever um
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so I promised to discuss some okay before before I get into that um I will
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go through some of the some of the top topics for today Intel to cut
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12,000 jobs as PC demand Wes
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ouch uh researchers accidentally
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discover technology that could lead to batteries that can be charged many more
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times than current ones nerd Sports has
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launched on vessel so this is something that we've had a lot of people asking
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about uh seeking clarification on so nerd Sports is a new series that we
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developed um it was funded by vessel.com
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so if you guys familiar with Bessel it's the Early Access platform that our
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videos go up on uh generally speaking one week before YouTube but this is
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different nerd Sports is exclusive to vessel and it's a series that we
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developed we've done five episodes or filmed five episodes so far three of
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which are actually done one of which is released um where
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basically the lonus Media Group team we
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call ourselves the keyboard Warriors takes on actual sports teams so the
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first sports that we did were
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um actually we filmed it like ages ago at this point projects like this take so
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long so volleyball dodgeball lacrosse
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ice hockey and curling so the first
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episode is volleyball it's awesome we actually take on the Trinity Western
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Spartans who are the top college uh
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women's volleyball team in the country as of last year and it is um it it is
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actually pretty hilarious I don't think I'm technically supposed to do this cuz
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like there is a trailer and stuff but I will I will play just I'll play just a
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little bit of it um so where videos here
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we go just going to grab some grab a couple
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chunks out of it here
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if it loads of course everyone's probably like
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hitting it all at the same time now thanks
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guys that's weird see that's that's
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working well we'll be back um so nerd
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Sports is available now it's going to be released weekly for the next four weeks
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over on vessel.com um what else do we
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have ah yes a mosquito killing billboard
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pretty freaking cool okay so now with
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all that aside I have to take some time to talk about the HTC Vive and I know
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you guys are thinking all right Luke's
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not here on the show I don't have to listen to anyone
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talk about talk about VR for the next
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hour and a half but you were
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wrong um everything about everything about that was wrong I'm definitely
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going to be talking about VR so the HTC Vive arrived yesterday afternoon at
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which time I promptly completely abandoned everything else that I had
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planned for that evening um I got home I was like hi kids bye kids and locked
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myself upstairs they were allowed in afterwards but only if they agreed to help me set up the Vive uh locked myself
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upstairs to set up the Vive it takes the mo it's the most agonizing like hour
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ever because I kind of thought it would come
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with like floor or something for the lighthouse units it does not they just
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expect you to wall mount it so I was like um V are we painting this room soon
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because we had actually discussed it and she's like yeah I think I think so we
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had we had said we were going to I'm like okay I'm putting a bunch of holes in the
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wall so I'm just in there just like
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drilling random holes in the wall mounting the lighthouse it takes about an hour to set up and you're just like I
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just want to play VR games I just want to play VR games um so then at that time
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I kind of realized again that I had derped and that I should have done this
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at the beginning but I realized oh I I don't have any VR games downloaded so I
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had to I had to go buy some VR games right away and then I had to
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um go ahead and wait for those to
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download while I finished the setup and then I spent about two hours straight
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for the first time playing a single player
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experience in I don't even no like I can't even
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begin to imagine how long it's been since I've
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since I've done that in a single player game like I'll drop in and like I was
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playing Team Fortress too with uh with Luke actually the other night he was
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streaming on his twitch Channel and stuff uh but like just playing single
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player games it's been a long time but I was playing uh space pirate
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trainer it is freaking cool you've got
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like a shield and a blaster and you can like switch out your shield and your
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blaster um it is unbelievably fun um I had I had
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a lot of people say yeah enjoy your enjoy your headache after 30 minutes you
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know what two hours almost uninterrupted
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uh my wife was playing for a little bit two hours almost uninterrupted and I was
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feeling good like I was 100% fine at the
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end of that it was it was freaking awesome I can't wait to go home and play
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with it more um there are still issues
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like the setup process is not perfect I ran into a couple of issues while I was
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setting it up um number one was I ended
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up with the bug where you can end up standing like 6 to 10 feet below the
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floor for the entire like introductory video segment and I was just like okay
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well this is really frustrating like is it is everything supposed to be up there
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am I supposed to be down here because there's like a weird like golf cart next
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to me but what I was actually standing in was like a little room that's
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supposed to to lift the golf cart up like it's supposed to seem like the golf cart emerges from there but I was just
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stuck down there and I didn't come up when the golf cart went up either so it
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was just sort of confusing um and
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then the other issue I had was my my
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motion controllers my my handheld motion controllers just weren't picking up
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until I uninstalled and reinstalled the software and like there there were some
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issues with the setup but once it's going man it's fun like the resolution
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does bother me like you take off the goggles and you see the preview window
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on the screen you're just like oh man what if it looked like
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that but not to the point where the gameplay isn't immersive and the
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gameplay isn't ludicrously enjoyable so
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it was uh I I tell you guys it was an
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absolute it was an absolute blast I I
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had a lot of fun with it last night I will I suppose I will get on
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with the show now um let's uh jump into our first topic here so the original
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article is from anon.com uh and Intel is slashing oh
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right this was posted originally on the Forum by oh no one so Intel is slashing
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a huge number of jobs over the rest of
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2016 and even leading into
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2017 um about 11% of the total Workforce
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12,000 people um CEO Brian kranich says
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Intel has been known as a PC company it's time to make this transition and
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push the company all the way over to
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supplying chips for things like smartphones cloud computing sensors and
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other devices uh getting heavily into internet of things and mobile products
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um I mean he's not saying that CPUs as
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you know them are going away they're just diversifying their portfolio and
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focusing their R&D very clearly on those
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other possible revenue streams to be clear also 60% of their
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revenue does still come from PC CPUs but most of the layoffs are
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expected to occur inside the PC business to allow them to focus on these other
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categories I really I really hope that they know
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something that AMD doesn't know about
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the possibility for improving CPU performance over the next few years here
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because we've we really have seen them deemphasize the CPU long before there
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were Mass layoffs associated with it like this where they're kind of going
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okay yep more power efficiency um we're putting more GPU on it we are not really
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doing a whole lot in terms of the overall horsepower of it keeping the the
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Computing experience of the desktop
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user relatively stagnant while the mobile users are getting real tangible
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benefits out of each coming generation like the the better connectivity I would
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say even benefits notebook users more than desktop users because desktop users
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can throw an addin card in their system say for example whereas laptop users
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these battery life improvements these connectivity improvements you know
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things like Thunderbolt 3 make a huge difference I mean you can only have so
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many ports on something like a laptop um
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something like Apple's MacBook you can only have one port yay whereas on a
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desktop you well you don't really need a single port that has such high speeds
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and can handle you know land and sound
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and USB and HDMI and DisplayPort all
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out of this one connection because you could just plug all those things in it's
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not really that big of a deal um where was I going with this right so
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we've we've seen this dmhas coming but
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it's frustrating because when you look
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at when you look at Intel's CPUs um on
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the on the mainstream side like on the LGA 115x side of things there is room like
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actual physical there is physical room
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for them to even if they can't increase clock speeds dramatically and even if
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they can't increase IPC that's that's the that's the performance per clock
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dramatically they could be putting more cores on them if they opted to give us a
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pure CPU rather than an APU something with CPU and Graphics built into it at
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the same time they just don't they Reserve that for the high-end platform
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the Enthusiast and the server platform and
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uh that's pretty much all she wrote on that now this is really weird and I am
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going to have to find out what it is regarding by having Nick find out what
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it's regarding uh sorry just one
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moment can you take this for me please
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thank you and I'm going to move into my next topic
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here uh oh actually well hold on I guess I could give a little bit a little bit
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more clarification so this is the largest set of layoffs in 10 years since
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2006 when they let 10,500 people go uh
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profit margins in q1 were lower than expected with a net income of $2 billion
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on a revenue of 13.7 billion
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um yeah there're I don't know I yeah I
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hope for their sake they know something AMD doesn't know because if they're
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planning to let a lot of people go on the desktop CPU side if AMD really does
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see a Resurgence with Zen get some more Revenue coming in um potentially
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allowing them to pick up some of that Talent there could be a big opportunity
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for us to have competition again due to Intel not accidentally but making a
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conscious decision to take their foot
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off the pedal on the uh on the desktop CPU side of things uh I'll good
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yeah just because of the okay okay okay
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cool all right so let's move into Intel
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announcing oh no we we already we already got that oh let's move into this
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one this one's fun so original article here was off of PC
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perspective and basically it's amazing how this happens but researchers
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accidentally discovered nanowire based technology that could lead to batteries
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that can be charged hundreds of thousands of times so you guys are
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probably familiar with the way that almost as though by planning um phones
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become obsolete thanks to their batteries just going through the maximum
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number of charge and discharge Cycles until they die like there's lithium ion
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batteries are inherently not stable over many charge
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and discharge Cycles well here we go
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accidental discovery nanowires which are several thousand times thinner than a
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human hair extremely conductive and have
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a large surface area to support storage and transfer of
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electrons uh lai's Team so this is Maya
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laai fixed the issue where these these
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tiny wires are fragile and don't hold up well to repeated discharging and
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recharging they fix this by cing a gold Nano wire in a manganese dioxide shell
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and then placing it in a in a gel that's like plexy plexiglass to improve its
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reliability again totally by accident so
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Maya was apparently playing around and coated the whole thing with a very thin
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gel layer and started to cycle it and discovered that by using this gel she
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could cycle it hundreds of thousands of times without losing any capacity or any
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power output so this was tested more than 200,000 times over a 3mon span and
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they are reporting the findings now I would love to see this technology in my
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new smartphone and I share um I believe
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it was written by Ryan shroud over at PC per but it could could have been one of
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their other writers but I share their concern about this technology ultimately
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being patented and ending up in a warehouse somewhere never to be seen
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again because it is a good thing for phone manufacturers is bottom line wise
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for the phone to effectively not be usable anywhere from 3 to 6 years after
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it was originally manufactured would they want the battery to last forever I
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don't know
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um okay so moving along to our next
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topic AMD is set to receive
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293 million in fresh cash from a deal
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with the Chinese government this of course
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raises any number of questions um I mean
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this comes on on the heels of the Chinese the so okay it's kind of
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complicated because the Chinese government and then companies in China
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are intertwined in a way that you
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wouldn't necessarily expect if you come
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from like a a more western or more capitalist Society I mean yeah the
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Chinese claim that capital ism is alive and well but the reality of it is that
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state funds make a lot of the businesses
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that run in China possible so in here
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the original article is actually from Guru 3D I'm just going to go ahead and
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pull that up so in the guru 3D article they say the Chinese government has
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attempted to make CPUs and develop their
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own CPU architecture many times before um they
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want their own own hardware and software for government funded
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institutions but they have not yet succeeded and it looks like AMD is going
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to be the beneficiary so AMD has made it clear in their strategy in their
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marketing strategy that they're ready to customize modular CPU and S so or system
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on chip designs by the client specs so
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similar to what they would have done with uh Sony and Microsoft for the
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PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One
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so the deal was mentioned in their last quarterly results
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and
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basically the deal would involve AMD
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licensing its x86 processor technology
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and the IP related to designing an so like memory controllers input output and
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caching but possibly not their GPU
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technology um the architecture has not been confirmed but Forbes is claiming
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that it must be Zen as there previous server CPUs hadn't had much if any
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success it's actually been it's been a while since opteron has uh has been much
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of a big deal this is this is this is
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very this is very very interesting I mean AMD
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is you could see it as AMD getting in
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bed with China uh you could also see it
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as China eventually giving in and using
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uh using American Technology in order to well catch up to what the Americans were
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able to do with respect to
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um with respect to supercomputing and I
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mean I see I don't even know if this is going to be used in a supercomputing
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context to be very clear because all we
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really know is that the deal would involve licensing x86 processor
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technology and IP related to building
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x86 architecture chips and S so's
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so I've got people saying AMD is Americans since when okay so so there is
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they they a significant amount of their company is owned by overseas investment
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that is true but they are American in the sense that their headquarters is in
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America I guess um yeah I
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guess
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um this is interesting so I actually I
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don't have a I don't have a source link for this or anything like that but AMD
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will not be seeding
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firepro sorry it's dang it Colton
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uh so they will not be seaing their upcoming dual Hawaii
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card I forget what they're even calling it I think it's like Radeon Duo Pro or
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Pro Duo there we go so the radon Pro duo
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will not be seated to conin ventional gaming press I'll go ahead and share you
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guys on the uh sort of the announcement
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for their super Computing performance to
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VR um so what I was pretty much told is
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that this this product and I can't say
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anything about it for a couple of reasons uh number one if I want to get a
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deck about it prior to the Embargo so I can prepare any content that I have uh
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that I will be able to release without an actual card um I do have to agree to
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the NDA and number two because I haven't received any of the deck materials yet
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so all I know is going off of rumors so
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it's supposed to be dual Hawaii chips um it sounds like it's going to be dual 4
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gig um it'll be it'll be uh it's oh okay
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this is off of AMD site so anticipated
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selling price of $1,500 us and
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basically the reasoning that was given to me
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was well it's not
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really uh sorry did I say dual Hawaii sorry dual Fiji dual Fiji so it's
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effectively two um it's effectively like
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two
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R9 like R9 Fury SL Fury X kind of class
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gpus that's that's what we can that's what we can GLE from the details we have
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so far sorry I can't believe I said dual Hawai is I've been running around trying
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to trying to get our internet back up and running over here
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um and see sorry I'm struggling a little bit because I'm not
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sure how much of what they told me is
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stuff that is on this page I'm looking at and how much of it is stuff that's
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going to be in the deck that's going to be NDA so so this is good
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it offers a complete solution aimed at all aspects of the VR developer
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lifestyle developing content more rapidly for killer VR experiences while
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at work and playing the latest directx12 experiences at maximum Fidelity while
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off work so it's no secret that dual GPU
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support on recent generation games has
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not been what it was even before and by the
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way guys we are live um something about
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time zones not time zones it is is 537
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and we are live
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um so even even a year or two years or
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even three years ago dual GPU support wasn't perfect a lot of the time it
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required Patches from NVIDIA or uh AMD
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or previously ATI in order to function
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uh but it's actually gotten worse and worse and worse as time has gone on on
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in fact some games over the last little while even games that have been you know
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you know the ones where there's like the NVIDIA logo or the AMD logo that pops up
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at the beginning with you know Gameworks technology or whatever else that just flat out the developers going yep yep
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SLI uh Crossfire forget it forget it
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we're just yeah just doesn't matter it's it's too small of a portion of customers
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so for that reason the pro Duo was not
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realistically going to get very good reviews from the gaming press because it
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frankly just doesn't make a ton of sense as a gaming card it's only got 4 gigs of
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effective video memory because it's four gigs per GPU that doesn't add up to
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eight gigs that means four gigs um it's
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two presumably fairly power hungry chips
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that perform okay but not well enough to
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charge $1,500 for two of them and like
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we've run into this before but typically the Dual GPU solution has has been
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closer to the $1,000 range and not so close to the $1,500 range where you
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can't just kind of go okay you know like here this is a fun experiment let's just
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fire up New Egg Shop AMD radon Fury
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x no newegg.com is fine oh I don't wow
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wow the world's most boring sale monitors and printers unless you're
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shopping for a monitor or a printer in which case what just happened to my
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search result oh New
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Egg anyway oh okay so about $629 so
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you're paying this huge premium to have
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a card that does save you on PCI apparently 295x2 launched at $1,500 yeah
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that's a good point but how many units did 295x2
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sell like this is a this is a this is a
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dinosaur the radon Pro duo in a gaming sense is a dinosaur because you can get
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two X's for 13300 bucks after taxes kind
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of thing so unless you desperately need those two
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slots what are you even what are you even doing and if you desperately need
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those two slots why don't you just water cool water cool a couple of Fury X's I
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mean that actually pays for your water blocks right there
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so yeah it's going to be power hungry it's going to be super expensive so
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basically they're kind of going okay yeah it's for developers and I I I don't
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really I don't really I guess I what I don't really get at this point I
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understand why they're not seing it to reviewers because it wouldn't have gotten a positive review from us it
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wouldn't have gotten a positive review from probably anyone they'd say you know
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it's it's always that sugarcoated conclusion right this is the ultimate
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graphics card for AMD
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enthusiasts who want the highest performance
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single AMD card so you go like you go
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like this is this this sliver of this
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slice of the available Market of people who are interested in graphics cards and
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that is pretty much all that is left for someone who for for gaming purposes
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might be interested in a radi on prod I'll be interested to see what they can
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come up with in terms of value ads for
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the prodo that would make it make sense for developers but I just have a hard
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time imagining what would make it better for developers than just picking up a
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couple of Furies or a couple of Fury X's
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um Alpha 17x in the chat this is a this is a really good this is a really good
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point I'm a developer I use what the end user would be using so I know what the
30:42
crap I'm something twitch chat moves too fast I mean that is uh that is a really
30:47
really great Point um and depending on
30:51
what kind of development you're doing like if you're working on digital assets
30:55
you might be interested in something like a fire Pro or something like a
30:58
Quadro card but in those cases you'd want a lot more than four gigs of vram
31:04
per GPU so I still don't understand why
31:09
they're even releasing this card that's the question I understand why they don't
31:13
want people to review it I don't understand why they even kept it in
31:17
development after all this time because I it's like it's no secret that VR and
31:20
directx12 is where we're headed and dual GPU something of a dinosaur at this
31:26
point I mean NVIDIA didn't even bother do you think do you think NVIDIA
31:31
couldn't have built a dual 980 card come
31:36
on they totally could have done it you think they couldn't have built a dual
31:39
980 card with 8 gigs of RAM per GPU like
31:43
that they managed to build an mxm they
31:46
managed to put a 980 in a laptop the power efficiency was there the thermal
31:51
output was there they were just
31:54
like why bother I mean Titan Z was such
31:58
a flop I mean the price that presumably it had to be in order to build it
32:03
because they had they had lots of time to drop the price on it and just go okay
32:07
yeah we'll just take less margin on it and sell some more units um like the
32:11
price it must have cost to make it just made it
32:14
untenable so yeah I mean to me this is kind of
32:20
like the the final swan song for dual
32:24
gpus on one card outside of uh outside
32:28
of you know professional like scientific com like high performance Computing
32:32
based cards that you might expect to find in a in a like a a huge server Farm
32:37
somewhere so hopefully Polaris is the answer and
32:43
uh and we can all look forward to that hey Brandon can you uh help me with
32:48
something for a minute very very quickly by
32:52
running thank you um can you find out
32:55
what this is and direct it to the appropriate place it may be something quite
32:59
important all
33:02
right so this is a cool piece of technology the original poster here is
33:07
aing and the original article here is from The Verge this is a cool way to use
33:13
technology this is a mosquito killer
33:18
billboard that is targeting Mosquito
33:22
carrying the zika virus in Brazil now if
33:25
you have been if you've been watching um the development of zika in the news
33:31
you're probably aware that it is a huge
33:34
concern not necessarily for perfectly
33:39
healthy people but especially if you're pregnant zika could be a major problem
33:45
because it can cause I believe it's um
33:48
it's either macro or micro I'm going to go with micral which is a condition
33:51
where your brain depending on whether it's macro or micro I think it's micro
33:55
where your where your head is super super small which causes all kinds of
34:00
Developmental problems so what the what the bill so zika hasn't has has been a
34:07
problem um in warmer climate areas
34:10
jungle areas because it's spread by mosquitoes it's actually transmitted sexually as well but it has been a huge
34:16
problem in Brazil so this
34:21
technology is apparently using this um like carbon dioxide and
34:28
lactic acid solution to mimic human
34:31
breathing and sweat and then zapping the
34:36
bugs killing them so it can actually
34:40
lure insects within a radius of up to two and a half kilm this is something
34:44
I've always wondered about like how do mosquitoes find us so there you go
34:48
apparently it's by smell now to be clear always wondered about doesn't mean like
34:53
it was a burning desire because I could have just Googled it it's just something
34:56
that kind of like be like oh dang it how do they find me um so it can lure
35:01
insects within a radius of 2 and 12 km
35:07
and um let's
35:12
see and kill them but there H are some
35:17
concerns that have been raised so two of these Billboards have been installed in
35:20
Rio de Janeiro and they're using
35:23
technical spec specifications that they've actually published for free online but Chris Jackson uh Jackson
35:29
Jackson Jackson a pest control expert at the University of Southampton told the
35:33
BBC that the billboard could inadvertently cause more people to be
35:39
bitten depending on where it is placed and uh just give me one second Brandon
35:44
who did you give that phone to okay can you bring him back
35:48
here thank
35:55
you so I've actually got a pretty cool
35:58
graphic for how it works here I'm just going to go ahead and pull this up on
36:02
the screen so a device spreads in the air
36:06
and a solution containing the um lactic acid and
36:11
CO2 okay so it spreads in the air this solution the combination of the two
36:16
substances attracts mosquitoes at this set claims a distance of up to 4 kilm
36:21
fluorescent lights enhance this attraction facilitating the
36:25
approximation I I think they mean approach of the
36:28
and then as the 80s flies on average 4T above the
36:34
ground the catch mechanism was designed
36:37
to be there it draws the mosquito into the panel and after being stuck the
36:41
mosquito dies dehydrated so it doesn't zap them in the sense that it like those
36:46
uh like those awesome paddle bug zapper things but uh it does kill them
36:52
eventually which I guess is uh is all we can all we can really ask
36:58
hey Brandon where is he okay did you
37:01
tell him to move quickly I can't hold on I'm streaming
37:06
from that phone I'm dropping frames he needs to get over here right away thank
37:11
you
37:15
sorry all right so this was originally
37:18
posted by yumy Yuki
37:24
sene and this is pretty much the worst
37:27
news
37:30
ever l e uh formerly who formerly went
37:35
by the name of LV LV revealed their letu
37:40
range of smartphones none of which have a 3 and 1
37:44
12 mm Jack so instead the phone supports
37:47
USB type-c digital headphones through the charging port they also launched a
37:52
USBC earphone skew and a USBC headphone
37:55
skew to accompany it so let's have a look at the original article over on
38:00
Android authority which I would I would love to click on but Google Talks is
38:05
being such a derp right now and making it hard for me to click stuff there we
38:09
go so after all the rumors about Apple
38:14
launching a phone with no headphone jack it turns
38:18
out that an Android phone maker is going
38:21
to be the first one I really I get I get a kick out of
38:26
ese like what are they why why what is the
38:32
point like I I get that they're kind of going oh yeah well you know we're going
38:36
to build this ecosystem with like earphones and headphones that work with
38:40
it but it's like such a hassle like what if I don't know say for example you were
38:45
sitting down to stream the L show and you wanted to quickly plug your your
38:49
headphones that you normally use with your phone into your streaming computer
38:52
so you can check audio levels it's oh right oh bummer it's us B type c I guess
38:59
it's just not going to work with anything and it's one thing if you were to release like some kind of a killer
39:04
pair of headphones that rounds out the ecosystem and makes it make a ton of
39:10
sense but that's
39:14
not yeah that's not g to help if you're
39:18
just some random Android maker and your
39:22
headphones and earphones to be clear I haven't heard them but are probably
39:27
terrible like probably just just
39:31
awful um let's go ahead and uh see if we can
39:36
find any pictures of the device that would be that' be super cool I'm going
39:39
to see if pocket now has pictures up on their site but uh yeah I mean there's really
39:45
not much else to say it's not it's not a product that I would be that I would be
39:50
especially interested in one way or the other and unfortunately the pocket now
39:55
article is not loading for at the moment but
40:01
um yeah speaking of products that I'm not
40:05
particularly interested in this was originally posted by lots of
40:08
unexplainable lag on the Forum and the original article here is from Mac
40:13
rumors.com but Apple has
40:16
updated not the MacBook Air not the
40:19
product we were actually hoping that they would update you know one that has
40:25
enough thinness but maybe not quite as much thinness but you know good battery
40:29
life but maybe not as good battery life but actually has ports on it no no they
40:33
didn't give the MacBook ER Retina Display so it really does look like the
40:36
MacBook Air is a is a is a forgone conclusion at this point I think it's a
40:41
it's a done deal it's gone they have updated the 12-in Macbook so now it has
40:48
skyl CPU options a longer battery life
40:52
and a rose gold option so sixth
40:55
generation Skylake dual core 4M processors up to 1.3 GHz HD graphics 515
41:00
delivering 25% faster performance for all the games that you will presumably
41:04
be playing on your MacBook faster PCI Express based storage okay I can't
41:09
complain about that an additional hour of battery life faster 1866 MHz memory
41:16
oh wow available R gold oh in addition
41:21
to the existing Gold Silver and space gray colors
41:24
unfortunately Apple in its Infinite Wisdom
41:27
did not feel it was necessary to add any
41:32
ports to it so while I wasn't going to buy one
41:38
anyway I find that frustrating just
41:41
because for the sake of the people buying this product it would be it would
41:47
be considerate of Apple to you know care
41:50
about them enough to to give them some ports to use you know man I just I feel
41:54
bad for the Apple people Apple people apping
42:01
this yeah all
42:05
right uhoh more car scandals the op here
42:10
is numlock 21 I'm going to see if
42:13
refreshing Google Docs helps here this is driving me crazy it's doing that weird thing where there's like the line
42:18
you're trying to click on and you put your mouse there and it clicks like an inch higher or something like that let's
42:22
see if that yeah there we go reloading the page helps so euronews.com has the
42:26
orinal article about Mitsubishi Motors
42:31
faking their fuel economy tests they
42:34
actually got rided like go figure rated so their
42:40
shares plunged on Thursday following an admission that they faked fuel economy
42:45
data on car sold in Japan uh they ended up losing 3.2 billion in market value
42:51
over a mere three days they apologized on Wednesday saying they will make a
42:56
sincere effort to make amends to car owners and transport Min the transport
43:02
Minister of Japan wants Mitsubishi to look at the possibility of buying back
43:05
the cars that could be even more costly
43:09
than what Volkswagen went through wow Mitsubishi will also have to
43:15
pay subsidies granted to Consumers if data shows its cars do not meet the
43:19
necessary fuel economy standards I mean I don't know I don't
43:24
know what the takeaway here is part of the the takeway is these companies are
43:30
bad and they did really bad things and you know I don't know if that makes some
43:34
bad people sometimes good people do bad things but faking fuel economy ratings
43:40
is pretty bad um I mean you're lying to
43:44
your customers you're lying to your government you are polluting the economy
43:49
or polluting the economy you're polluting the uh environment more than
43:53
you said you were like these these
43:56
targets exist for a reason we're trying to reduce our ecological impact um but
44:02
with that said it also raises questions about
44:07
the about whether
44:10
introducing laws governing how much you
44:14
know CO2 or how much how governing the emissions that cars can output whether
44:19
that's actually the solution or if you have to do something else I mean I've
44:23
argued for a long time that here in Vancouver Public Transit is basically
44:27
unusable if you have a job public transit is is pretty difficult to use
44:33
Vancouver is such a suburban sprawl it
44:38
just it just spreads in all in all directions rather than building up like
44:42
many other cities have and our infrastructure is just awful outside of
44:47
the of the urban core to the point where something that is a half an hour drive
44:52
could easily take two two and a half hours on a bus and if you value your
44:58
time at all like you could even just work another job in the 4 hours of
45:03
commuting that you save per day in order to have a car and not just sit around on
45:08
the bus um so rather than just kind of tell
45:13
companies hey you have to have lower emissions you know maybe making changes
45:17
that make it easier for people to use mass transit would be a better solution
45:22
but of course that's very easy for me to sit here and say I mean I don't actually
45:26
have to run the country thank
45:29
goodness all right huh more bad news
45:33
posted by Phoenix arising on the Forum and the original article here is from
45:38
CNN Money Microsoft's profits Fall by
45:45
25% not an insignificant amount sort of a sort of a
45:50
lousy quarter but not all of this is necessarily entirely their fault so q125
45:57
$5 billion profit q1 2016 3.8 billion
46:03
but part of the reason that it fell 25% was due to a higher than expected tax
46:07
rate and a strong US dollar okay sales
46:10
are down from 20 21.7 to 20.5 billion um
46:15
sales for Consumer versions grew 15% Enterprise version declined 11% for
46:20
Windows although this I don't know could have something to do with that we got a
46:24
consumer version of Windows that was not accompanied by a server version I mean
46:28
Ser server 2016 is nowhere to be found yet if anything it's probably kind of
46:34
happy that you know Enterprise sales only declined a little bit like I
46:38
personally would be trying to put off a server purchase until server 2016 shows
46:42
up if I had any say in the matter at this point um Office
46:46
365 consumer base reached 12.4 million
46:51
in 20 q1 2015 and grew to 22.2 million
46:55
in 2016 I will say I contributed to that I love Office
46:58
365 azur is up um XBox is up so
47:04
basically yeah OS is OS is not growing the way they would like and they were
47:09
taxed higher than they thought I'm glad they're at least paying taxes so you
47:13
know good guy Microsoft I
47:18
guess yeah anyway
47:22
um what else we got
47:27
this is interesting so original post here is from n Gadget the Canadian
47:32
province of Quebec contemplates mandating home EV charging stations
47:38
expects a decision by the start of this
47:41
summer I don't really understand what they're hoping to accomplish by that um
47:47
I mean I can see how investing in
47:52
infrastructure throughout the province like public infrastructure could help
47:56
the adoption of an EV CU in my mind like as someone considering purchasing an
48:00
electric vehicle I would love to buy an electric vehicle it's just not really in
48:05
my price range right now but as someone considering it after I've spent the 25
48:09
to $30,000 on an EV you know hundreds
48:14
more or even you know low thousands more for the charging station is not the end
48:18
of the world I mean you think about it like a phone like if you walk in you buy $500 phone are you that concerned about
48:23
the $30 charger at the same time like I consider it part of the purchase part of
48:27
the decision that someone buying that vehicle would have to make um so this
48:35
really and and and my decision as far as what the
48:40
government can do to help would have more to do with mandating businesses or
48:46
uh installing these charging stations in public places than to do with whether or
48:50
not I have to buy a charging station to put in my garage so this again smacks of
48:56
the govern thinking that just introducing a regulation is going to
49:01
somehow address some kind of a problem and change consumer Behavior at no cost
49:06
to themselves because basically they're just making uh Builders stomach it and
49:12
they're making consumers who don't necessarily want one and aren't ready
49:15
for one and could have easily waited another 5 years when they were ready for
49:18
a new car and bought one then when it's cheaper and they're making them foot the
49:21
bill instead of just investing in the infrastructure themselves
49:26
sorry oh yeah yeah yeah
49:30
um speaking of investing you know who invested in our
49:36
trip to PAX East yes my friends our
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friends from oh that uh oh uh my lower third is gone
49:47
hopefully I can find my lower third come on Lower
49:53
third let's see what path it's supposed to be in of course
49:57
of course mousing over it didn't help
50:00
and of course I do understand why that's
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not working and there is basically nothing I can do about it right now so
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fire this up for you guys here yeah there you go so this is on this is on
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NVIDIA's Twitter pretty freaking cool it's hard to even tell that that's not a
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proper display from here like look at it they're all
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keyboards that is awesome which like pretty much everything in my life right
51:17
now reminds me of the HTC VI there's a really cool mini game from valve that
51:21
has you use the controller as a ship kind of like an old arcade style uh you
51:26
know uh upsc scrolling like uh spaceship
51:30
shooter game except the controller is the ship so you can like move around in
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3D space and like fire at bad guys oh it's freaking freaking sick
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looks pretty freaking good I know that Nick and Colton actually did their
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Fair number of topics Microsoft has finally ended production of the Xbox
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360 so there you have it originally
54:46
posted on Kotaku if you wanted to buy an Xbox
54:50
360 before today was the time well there
54:54
will probably still be some on shelves but 10 and a half
54:58
years 10 and a half years ago the Xbox
55:03
360 launched and we are finally finally
55:07
rid of it uh Microsoft's Phil Spencer wrote a few paragraphs about its success
55:12
um saying Xbox 360 means a lot to
55:15
everyone in Microsoft and while we've had an amazing run the realities of
55:18
manufacturing a product over at decade old are starting to creep up on us which
55:22
is why we've made the decision to stop manufacturing new Xbox 360 cons consoles
55:27
we will continue to sell existing inventory with availability varying by
55:31
country Xbox Live will remain active as will the Xbox 360's various stores and
55:35
online services um and the Xbox one is actually
55:39
adding support for backward was adding backwards compatibility support for some
55:43
360 games so there you have it there you
55:48
have it the Xbox 360 is finally no more
55:51
I'm actually probably going to pick up a handful of Xbox 360 controllers before
55:56
like getting peripherals for dying console
56:00
Madness happens I want to get a couple that are in good condition because it's still my favorite controller really
56:04
don't like the shape of the dual shock and I really do prefer it to the Xbox
56:08
One controller so there you
56:13
go um let's see what else we
56:19
got oh this is interesting original article here is from anon.com WD is
56:26
ucing WD gold hard drives they have
56:29
added yet another color it's available in capacities from four to six to 8
56:34
terabytes and effectively pretty much
56:38
replaces the SE lineup um my see much oh
56:43
H that's funny I derped um and pretty much replaces their existing SE lineup
56:48
which was kind of like um like a a high
56:51
capacity Enterprise but not as expensive
56:54
as re not quite as expens not quite as high performance as
56:58
re um so basically the the color
57:01
branding is almost complete I'm surprised they called it gold I would have thought they would save gold for re
57:06
but maybe they're going to call that platinum or something I don't know it's
57:09
tuned similarly to WD red drives uh rated for 247 use and workloads of up to
57:14
550 terabytes a year with a 5year
57:19
warranty cool uh this is this is just kind of
57:23
funny this is originally uh original post here is uh over on
57:28
cbc.ca rust players outraged after half
57:32
of them given female
57:35
avatars um in some kind of attempt to
57:39
appease sjws I suppose now this wouldn't be that big of
57:44
an issue if they hadn't been
57:49
changed without the players even being notified and
57:54
permanently so your player just
57:58
boom they've imped a feature that randomly makes your character a man or a
58:02
woman they actually randomize features for your permanent character like skin
58:06
color limb length and even penis size so developers Gary Newman and Taylor
58:11
Reynolds expected this backlash and addressed it on their Community Dev log
58:16
this is great we understand this is a sore subject for a lot of people we
58:21
understand that you may now be a gender that you don't identify with in real
58:24
life we understand this causes you to stress and makes you not want to play
58:27
the game anymore technically nothing has changed since half the population was
58:31
already living with those feelings the only difference is that whether you feel
58:35
like this is now decided by your steam ID instead of your real life gender this
58:39
is really just the first pass of an ongoing rework of the player model I'll
58:43
continue to add variations over the coming weeks which means you're probably
58:47
not stuck with your new face forever we've got a decent synced workflow
58:51
between the assets I make in zbrush and the assets you'll see in game now so it
58:55
opens up a lot of scope to easily add or change features without a great deal of
58:59
technical faffing in
59:03
between
59:08
what so we heard that lots of people you
59:11
know don't identify with gender X or Y
59:16
or some combination of the two and that makes them unhappy so we
59:23
thought as a game developer
59:26
we would take our customers and we would have them experience that on some
59:32
scale because
59:36
we something
59:41
um
59:44
okay uh we've got more details about the
59:49
PlayStation 4K which um we don't know if
59:53
it's the confirmed name I don't know if we talked about about some of this stuff
59:57
last week I I believe we actually did but we've got a handy dandy little chart
60:00
this time so I can go ahead and fire that up for you guys so eight Jaguar cores eight more
60:06
Jaguar cores well no the exactly the same number of eight Jaguar cores in
60:09
fact same architecture but higher clock speed okay gcn better gcn okay uh higher
60:16
clocked um more compute units uh memory
60:21
looks like it's got a bandwidth increase but is actually still the same 8 gigs so
60:26
there you go um
60:30
Yep this is cool so this was originally posted by Strider 721 on the Forum the
60:34
original article here is from The Verge Counter Strike hacked to run on Android
60:39
phones this is
60:44
cool now to be clear this is not CS:GO this is Counterstrike
60:49
1.6 but how cool is that right look at
60:54
this love it
60:58
oh man so let's get some details here so
61:02
this is the work of uh programmer sorry hold on got to close that albec omarov
61:07
who's experienced in making old PC games run on Android he's created touchscreen
61:12
controls for the game so to get it to work on your Android device you download
61:15
the sash xash it's xsh 3D software have
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the games on your Steam account to copy the files across and the port does
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apparently support peripherals which is pretty cool because with an on the-go
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cable I have actually tested this with an OTG cable and a phone that supports
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OTG and just a normal USB hub you can plug in pretty much whatever you could
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possibly want powered USB hub otherwise you are definitely going to have issues
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running like you know large 104 key like
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RGB backlit keyboards so I think that pretty much
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does it for the WAN Show thank you to all of you who went ahead and uh stuck
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with me through the technical difficulties on the show today really do
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appreciate it I will see you guys next week same bat
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Time same bat Channel actually will I
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see you guys next week I may be traveling next week we have a lot of
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like a lot of the team is traveling a lot no I wait
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what yeah Brandon's like Gone Forever uh
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yeah lonus and Ed are in San Francisco until yes next Friday so I'll see if I'm
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remoting in or I'll see if I'm not but uh if I don't will be hosting the show
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cuz he'll be back by then this is the problem with like you tell people take
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your vacation and then no one does it and then you tell people look you're not
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going to be able to take it in Q4 because it's busy and then everyone just
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takes off mind you most of this is work stuff actually only Brandon's taking vacation because he's not a team player
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you heard me wow horrible all right see
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you guys