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The WAN Show - New iPhone with SEVEN Headphone Jacks - September 9th 2016

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2017-05-06 · 14,690 words · ~73 min read

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0:00 are you ready yeah okay we've been through this before yes you don't get to

0:04 wear a nerd Fusion shirt I'm sorry unless Hillary wins the election

0:10 right we've been through this before yeah I'm pretty sure we've been through

0:13 this on stream before so you guys bore witness to

0:16 this we wear nerd Fusion shirts if

0:20 Hillary wins and they wear lonus techtip shirts see I am in the uniform you see

0:25 how my shirt matches this lower third matches this mug

0:31 wait what apparently we have mugs now oh yeah why which I'm totally gonna drink

0:35 from yeah which I definitely always

0:38 enjoy a hot beverage on the W

0:42 shelf I don't only drink ice water we should just now that they know that

0:46 randomly throughout the show we have to just be like yes well you

0:52 know I just I just I really need coffee

0:55 to nail this point home don't even take a break to swallow just like so I think

1:00 when that Norway newspaper put that thing in their paper and then challenge

1:04 Zuckerberg it was really a pretty intense yeah it was really a a shouting

1:08 match that I would that I would have loved to participate coffee drink coffee

1:12 too calmly yes in a sedate manner um

1:16 what were we talking about I literally don't wait these shirts oh right there

1:20 was the bet with uh there was the bet with seus so there's a bet with Matt

1:24 seus zigi on who wins the election I said Trump was going to win well it's

1:29 it's more not Trump was going to win they should have to wear our shirts for way long I actually don't remember the

1:33 exact terms I don't know I might have I might have not gone one toone odds

1:38 actually I think I might have demanded like better Vegas odds on it than uh

1:42 than just you know one month to one month and like it it is in reality it's

1:47 not just a lonus versus seus bet no you

1:50 you you got they made it a lonus Media Group versus nerd Fusion as a whole so

1:55 the entire companies have to wear each other's shirts depending on who wins

2:00 we have to pay for the other company to have enough shirts to wear which is like

2:06 actually not insignificant given they we have like eight people so we would have

2:09 to buy all of our shirts for them yeah oh wrecked yeah we're not going to

2:13 they're so you sort of want to win and also don't yes okay well I yeah well I

2:19 don't want to win at all but that's a whole other

2:22 conversation um either if you want to win a whole tertiary

2:27 conversation all right so we've got a lot lot of great topics for you guys

2:31 today like Norway and Facebook crashing over news censorship they are going head

2:36 to-head uh there's a new Mario game for iOS uh Sony launched their AMD Polaris

2:42 powered PlayStation 4 Pro and VR

2:46 adoption among steam users has crashed

2:49 to a halt yep to a halt not surprised a

2:54 Hal not surprised a halt not surprised a

2:57 halt not surprised

3:25 should be fine except that I tore down the streaming machine today sort of a

3:29 little bit why uh well I I needed to okay okay so I

3:34 actually have what I think is a really

3:38 cool new segment and I know you guys are

3:42 going to give me a bunch of crap about new segments all the time this is I like

3:47 this a lot but I have a new segment that

3:50 we're calling this is possibly my favorite segment that you've ever

3:53 started really this what I am personally most interested in really yeah okay

3:59 that's why I was like I really want you to do this okay so the new segment is

4:04 called Haunted hardware and basically I I'm always

4:10 telling stories especially on W show I'm always telling you guys stories about

4:13 like just Bizarro land stuff that I have

4:16 witnessed like you know um uh I mean

4:21 what oh see okay it's hard to do this it's like it's hard to come up with

4:24 something on the spot okay okay okay perfect example that isn't the one that

4:28 I use in the video as an example is I had a machine once that would not

4:33 install an operating system it would crash on the loading bar for Windows XP

4:38 while it was like unpacking files or whatever every single time consistently

4:42 100% of the time I swapped the power supply installed Windows just fine I

4:46 went okay bad power supply but I don't have a lot of money I'm a student I'm

4:50 going to put that other power supply back in and just kind of see if it was a

4:54 flip system runs perfectly absolutely perfectly stress test all day no

4:59 problems whatsoever I could do anything with it in fact I left the power supply

5:03 in there it ran for years after that years okay but I wasn't done yet okay so

5:09 I put I I actually I was so curious I

5:12 was like okay I'm going to burn another half an hour to an hour of my time

5:15 because I want to know if this is reproducible so I put it back in and I

5:19 tried to install Windows again same exact Hardware

5:23 crashed and I'm just I'm sitting here going how can you have a system that is

5:28 100% stable other than that you cannot install Windows on it that's so random but the

5:34 problem I would have liked I would have really enjoyed if you tried a different OS I you know what I just like I wasn't

5:40 even aware of other os's at this time this is like when I was first getting into computers yeah yeah so anyway the

5:46 but the point of that is that that story is just a story and you guys can you

5:52 guys could not believe me or you could believe me or you could say gee I wish

5:56 you had tried another thing well see but no that's that's why I'm excited for this the series cuz now I'm interested

6:01 and I'm engaged I love that kind of stuff so now now oh I'm going to capture

6:07 the whole thing on video so I you tell them what it is no no I'm not going to

6:11 tell them what it is like that's a big all right oh I'm not going to tell them what it is no absolutely not but stay

6:16 tuned for haunted Hardware it's very topical because it's like super topical

6:22 very current events related and I document the whole thing I reproduce it

6:29 i i i demonstrate like there's a point where I go from scratch with a lot of

6:34 the camera rolling the entire time and what I'm thinking is we will upload that

6:40 video in its entirety unlisted

6:43 separately we'll link it in the description if you don't believe me

6:47 here's the proof there you go so uh yeah it should

6:51 be should be pretty excited I'm I'm I'm pretty stoked on that topical not

6:56 tropical they are very different

7:00 I mean I was reading an article about how we've I think we've eliminated a

7:03 tenth of the Wilderness in the world in

7:07 the last two decades about equivalent to half of the uh land area of Australia

7:14 whoa yeah in the last in the last 20 years so uh mostly in the uh Central in

7:19 central Africa and in the tropics so that would be a tropical

7:24 topic or a topical

7:27 Tropic but they are not the the same thing that cocking gun thing just looks

7:32 like a really crappy co uh chalk outline

7:36 of a gun no's going to know what I'm talking about it does kind of it's in

7:39 the workshop I don't know where the cocking gun is oh I know what they're

7:42 using it for also I look partially Angelic look at my

7:48 hair if you ask your mom you look fully Angelic a thanks Mom yeah you know she

7:52 would say it probably yep can't say I always agree you know

7:57 sometimes he gets kind of naughty

8:01 wow uh okay so moving on to our first

8:04 topic of the day big topic Facebook

8:08 backs down they back down y'all on

8:13 censoring the Napalm girl photo after

8:17 public outcry Facebook plans to restore the image and review its processes so if

8:24 you weren't following this along Norway's largest newspaper published a

8:27 front page open letter to Facebook CEO Mark Zer zerber zerber zuberg it's the

8:34 like the body snatcher replacement for Mark Zuckerberg uh so they're lambasting

8:38 the company's decision to censor an historic photo an historic no it's a

8:44 historic or an historic photograph of the Vietnam War calling Zuckerberg to

8:49 recognize and live up to his role as the world's most powerful editor which is a

8:55 interesting way of stating that and kind of true and it is kind of true I mean if

8:58 something doesn't exist on Facebook for a lot of people I know it basically does

9:02 not exist at the same time you could argue that Google is even more powerful

9:06 that way I don't know you know I haven't looked at it recently it would be

9:09 interesting to weigh them yeah because Facebook and Google are both always

9:13 publishing statistics of like how many people log in and look at their Facebook

9:16 feed like once per day and I think Facebook's numbers are actually scarier

9:20 because with Google they don't have quite as many

9:25 services that you just like if you go to the google.com homepage they don't have

9:30 suggested news stories there somehow still after all these years but like

9:35 time you type something into the search bar that's a search that's true that's

9:41 true but all you have to do is go to facebook.com and your feed which is um

9:48 oh Cur curated by people you know so you

9:51 inherently trust it more is also full of advertisements and is full of promoted

9:55 stories and stuff like that that's a good point so I would make the argument

9:59 that for the passive user not the active

10:02 user cuz I personally look at Google a lot more than I look at Facebook Google

10:06 and Google services a lot more than Facebook ones but for the passive user

10:09 who's just like vegging like sitting at their computer kind of browsing

10:14 something probably Facebook is more relative and is more relevant and if

10:18 Facebook decides something doesn't exist I think for a lot of people they

10:23 just basically would never see it where are they going to see it my Facebook is open a lot because I use it for like I

10:29 have this group where like some friends from high school and I just all share

10:33 music so I like play music through there almost constantly but I don't like go

10:37 through my feed but I think you're probably right a huge portion of people

10:41 would spend more overall time there um

10:44 so anyway I could elaborate on the story but I realized I never posted on

10:48 Facebook since we're talking about this tune into the WAN Show yeah I can't I

10:53 can't have it waterfall anymore uh from Twitter to Facebook cuz it just

10:57 completely buries everything we post that way hate that which is pretty

11:00 annoying because all basically all they're doing is wasting my time they're

11:04 making me copy paste things inste I kind of want to like create our own little

11:08 bot that will just like it's probably against terms of

11:13 service yeah God damn

11:18 it like probably definitely is but that would be so nice because if you created

11:22 your own bot it wouldn't know CU it wouldn't be push uh it wouldn't be going

11:25 through the API Services you could just have it literally like copy and pasted

11:29 in to make it like a normal paste all right so going back into what happened

11:33 the writer of the story was suspended from posting on Facebook for 24 hours he

11:38 posted a historic Vietnam War image of a naked girl fleeing from her Napal bombed

11:43 Vi Village they then published a story discussing and criticizing the deletion

11:47 of the image and that post was also removed while containing the same image

11:52 okay the notice from Facebook explains that any images with nudity in them will

11:56 be removed so Espen Hansen

12:00 editor-in-chief and CEO of Afton Poston I probably butchered that but I'm sorry

12:05 accused Zuckerberg of abusing his power and then after that the prime minister

12:08 of Norway decided to speak out about the situation she did this on Facebook but

12:12 several of her posts on the topic were also deleted which is getting pretty

12:15 ridiculous at that point to be fair this is probably just a bot going

12:20 crazy I seriously doubt this is someone like manually intervention be like no

12:26 screw you Norway like I don't know it's all Al a matter of and we have so there

12:31 is an anonymous anonymous Facebook spokesperson who responded saying while

12:34 we recognize that the photo is Iconic it's difficult to create a distinction

12:38 between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance just going to say

12:43 and not others above it said girl yes

12:46 and if this was an underage girl yes it is so we try to find the right balance

12:51 between enabling people to express themselves while maintaining a safe and respectful experience for our Global

12:55 Community our Solutions won't always be perfect but we'll continue to try to improve our policy and they have back

12:59 down and allowed the posting of this particular image which is interesting

13:04 which is interesting but I also completely get where they're coming from

13:08 that's what I'm saying we discussed this on W show last week without you but uh

13:12 YouTube Google rude well you weren't there you did anything without me yes I

13:17 did something without you I will make it up to you tonight so um so basically

13:22 Google has cracked down on the not the posting of so this was why I publicly

13:28 and strong L disagreed with some YouTuber statements that this is

13:32 censorship which it is not if you can say whatever you want that is not

13:36 censorship when someone refuses to pay you for saying whatever you want that's

13:40 not censorship that's uh a completely different thing and and yeah cuz they're

13:45 not taking people's videos down no or closing people's channels that's

13:50 something I was getting really annoyed cuz there's so many videos that are like my channel is being closed I'm like no

13:54 it's not you would be closing your channel yes they're just taking the

13:59 anyway this ISR which a whole issue and it's and it's just a cold hard reality

14:03 for if you're taking money from sponsors that you're going to have to behave in a

14:06 way that sponsors approve of and it was going to happen eventually um but it's I

14:12 want to one quick second on that I did someone posted a thing we can move to

14:16 this after I was just going to kind of close this sure but basically what I

14:20 didn't agree with was the way Google's doing it where they take this

14:24 heavy-handed ban everything approach and then probably what they will do is will

14:29 they will chip away like like kind it's kind of like they take like a big like a

14:34 big brick of marble and they just kind of go okay so we're just like

14:38 everything's covered and then they're just going to slowly chip away at the stuff that it turns out is actually okay

14:42 until they end up with a statue of the devil stuff that no sponsor wants their

14:46 wants their advertisements anywhere near um and and Facebook is doing it in much

14:50 the same way but the reality of it is is do they really have a choice can

14:54 Facebook manually go through and decide

14:58 on every picture of a naked kid that's okay when they first Implement a policy

15:03 and so I I actually like I kind of agree

15:06 with everything that happened here except Facebook removing the posts complaining about the

15:11 removal unless they also contain the pictur one I I'm wondering about the the

15:17 the uh what was her was it prime minister I don't want to get the the

15:20 position wrong uh yeah so it was uh nna

15:24 Solberg prime minister of Norway I'm wondering what the details of those

15:29 posts if it's just text complaining about the removal that's crazy that that

15:34 was removed but if it was like I can't believe this was removed this is fine

15:40 then I would be like okay I understand that anyways what I was going to say was

15:44 someone was talking about how maybe a good solution for the uh monetization

15:48 dropping that's going on YouTube yep would be different pools so Google could

15:53 have like advertisers that allow their ads to go on more like crazy video or

15:59 like traditionally not Advertiser friendly videos and like companies that

16:03 want to have their ads on these crazy videos can get cheaper ad buys and maybe

16:07 you get put in a lower monetization Group which is only open to those

16:16 things did you you you said that okay

16:19 all right I didn't watch the show I don't know it makes sense yeah it does

16:24 make sense everyone's like let him keep going no don't tell them don't tell them

16:29 no you started smiling weird and I was like I don't know what's happening and

16:32 lonus never talks to Twitch chat that's what so I didn't know if you were trying

16:36 to write to me or not because you don't normally type to Twitch chat I don't

16:40 know um no I agree I agree completely I think that's how they should do it and I

16:44 think that's how they will do it if anyone from Google watches the W show

16:48 which I'm not convinced that they do but hey if it managed to make it off Wan

16:51 show and back to you cuz I'm pretty sure you didn't watch The W show You' have

16:54 known that I was the one who said that I mean someone else has probably come up with the idea independently as well I'm

16:59 sure it's already the plan it's just a matter of it being difficult and

17:03 complicated and they would have to I mean this is something a lot of people

17:06 don't know a typical sponsor if you're

17:09 lucky is negotiating their ad buys on a quarterly basis some of them will do it

17:14 on like a yearly basis like we'll talk to a sponsor in like June and we'll be

17:19 like hey so we'd love to work together we've got this cool idea for Q4 they'll

17:22 be like yep all of our ad buys are pre-allocated at the beginning of the year and I'm kind of sitting here going

17:27 and I hope none of our sponsors are watching this because especially those ones but what do you even do all

17:32 day like seriously like what is your actual job if at one point at the

17:37 beginning of the year you basically take all of the brain power out of deciding

17:42 how to spend the advertising dollars that you have for the year probably

17:45 manage those contracts to be understand though too that a lot of

17:49 the time bigger Brands they they they sub contract this through agencies right

17:55 well as far as I've been able to tell cuz I talked to someone about this I'm

17:58 not going to say names or anything cuz i' I've asked people like why the hell do you actually do this cuz I hate

18:03 dealing with sorry Danny middleman I hate dealing with the middlemen because

18:07 you always end up just having pass through conversations yep and they're

18:11 like okay we're confused because they told us one thing and now there's stuff

18:15 going on and then like everyone has to kind of figure it out and you're just adding more steps to the process we had

18:20 a deal fall through recently where we got on a call with the agency and the

18:24 brand and it turned out that our so okay

18:28 so so there were actually four layers here so there was us our MCN there was

18:32 the brand agency and there was the brand four layers so our MCN did a great job

18:38 the brand had a clear idea of what they wanted and honestly those things were

18:42 pretty well aligned the agency basically passed along no information the call was

18:48 a complete cluster hump and we found out shortly after the call it's like the

18:52 guys last week there anyway so the Deal

18:55 completely fell through so carry on but this stuff is and I don't want to deal

18:59 with it anyway so I asked someone who was at one of the companies not one of

19:03 the pr companies but one of the like companies that would hire the pr companies who was a PR person we call

19:07 them a the brand right the brand there we go brand versus like agency okay so I

19:12 talked to a PR person from the brand and as them why they don't do it and it's a

19:16 shield yeah if their PR effort fails yes

19:20 they can just be like their fault meet Shield not Brand's fault yep byebye and

19:25 again this is going back to my personal theories it is a personal Shield as

19:32 well what do you mean like if I worked

19:35 at IBM let's that's what for for for

19:39 everyone at the brand throughout the whole chain the brand itself and the people working at the brand it's it's

19:44 all a shield it's a meat Shield yeah so all they have to say is okay well next

19:49 year we will reallocate that entire chunk somewhere else that's we're going

19:53 to reallocate it into social so basically someone gets paid an

19:58 actual salary for an actual entire year to make a decision at the beginning of

20:02 the year at one point in time to go okay

20:05 we are going to allocate uh we are going to listen to some proposals and we are

20:09 going to allocate budget here here here and here and then if it works then I

20:13 will be submitting a great report about how well it worked and if it doesn't

20:16 work I'm going to submit a report about how I fired those

20:20 people oh man corporations man become a

20:24 PR person yeah but you got to work your way

20:27 up the food chain you got to get to the Brin yeah so first you'll be first

20:31 you'll be like the meat deal with yeah you got to deal with being a meat Shield

20:34 have to survive as a meat shield first yeah it's basically like

20:39 Warfare but with words yes so in much

20:42 the same way you can either survive as a meat shield and get promoted or you can

20:46 just be born into it because like nepotism or whatever yeah yeah you have

20:51 to defend against the internet's flamethrowers of compassion all right so

20:55 uh moving on to our next topic

20:58 uh oh yes Sony launches an AMD Polaris

21:02 powered PlayStation 4 Pro so our original article here is from wccf Tech

21:08 it's probably fine because this is like there's actually like a press release

21:12 here are some specs like it's not speculation speculation wow I can't

21:16 believe I've never made that joke before oh wow yeah um so basically there's a

21:21 single chip custom processor featuring eight Jaguar cores though we do know

21:26 that they are clocked higher so they're faster Jaguar cores but

21:31 um okay we have a 1.84 teraflop AMD

21:35 radon based Graphics engine so we know that this is not quite double the

21:40 theoretical performance of what was already in the PlayStation 4 it's

21:44 available with a 500 gig or a 1 tbte drive it's got 8 gigs of gddr5 memory um

21:50 it has a Blu-ray Drive an Ethernet port

21:53 10 gig land no I'm just kidding just gigabit uh it's approximately 2.1

21:59 kilograms starts at $400 US starts at

22:04 $400 wait when is this for wait this is

22:07 the new slim standard model gosh darn it this is the new this is

22:12 the it's still eight gigs of gddr5 because that much is in the notes

22:18 dang it where is the pro one a NCH had a

22:21 good article on it I was looking at that uh okay so the pro one Higher clock

22:25 speeds it is still 8 gigs of RAM that is said to run at higher Clocks 2 and is

22:29 bolstered by new lossless memory compression technology from AMD uh the

22:34 GPU component features over double the shading power of the PlayStation 4 and is based on the players okay so

22:38 basically I got everything right the pro starts at 3.99 okay we got everything

22:42 right even though we were looking at an article that I don't actually think was about it so go lus and Luke so okay Y in

22:49 a nutshell what Sony is trying to do is they are trying to make their console

22:54 all about 4K and they're

22:59 still approaching it from sort of a um

23:02 um a lackluster sort

23:05 of angle yeah it's not grammatically

23:09 correct but let's go with it lackluster angle so they're still approaching it in

23:12 a way that is quite frankly just not going to work because as the college

23:16 educated among you may know 4K is four

23:19 times the pixel count of 1080p so right off the Hop if we're

23:25 running games at anything less than 60 FPS

23:28 native 1080p on the PlayStation 4 which we most assuredly are we will need four

23:34 times the theoretical performance it doesn't quite work like that but but we

23:38 will need more than two times the theoretical

23:41 performance of the original PlayStation 4 in order to game it 4K smoothly at the

23:45 same frame rates yeah because there's like a lot of other variables but

23:49 there's a lot more to it than that um

23:52 shaders are not the same as like you know your overall pixel fill rate is not

23:56 the same as how your memory band with effect all of that like you you could

24:00 you could double the functional units in the GPU but if you didn't increase the

24:03 memory bandwidth at all then you you wouldn't get doubling and theoretical

24:07 doubling does not equal practical real world doubling so there's a lot of

24:10 things unless you had memory bandwidth that was already capable of the doubling

24:14 even if you fully like double doubled without making any kind of architectural

24:18 change I don't know that you would get double the performance we could test it

24:22 though like we could we could go find a GPU that has exactly half of the cacor

24:27 of the higher end one and see how it works out we might have other we might

24:32 have to overclock and underclock but there'd probably be like memory bandwidth changes and stuff yeah I okay

24:38 I don't know if it would be possible well let me tell you what we'll call up NVIDIA or AMD we'll be like hey can you

24:42 send us a custom GPU can you like seal off half of

24:45 the are you there

24:48 still um anyway so uh it's going to be

24:52 the war again last time there was a PlayStation and Xbox launch and there is

24:57 coming up there will be a Playstation Xbox launch there was all the image

25:01 comparisons every single Tech YouTuber including us and probably this will

25:05 happen again is going to create um

25:09 computers that are like the same price or cheaper and better or the same

25:13 performance and then everyone's going to be like but as computer parts keep

25:18 coming out and these consoles are going to stay here for a little while in the future we'll have even better ones and

25:23 then with the next GPU launch there will be even more videos of people going like

25:29 oh man look you can even make faster computers for the same price as the

25:33 consoles but then the consoles are going to go down in price and the yeah war is

25:37 going to come do you want to redo 792p versus six-year-old graphics card I can

25:42 that' be pretty funny yeah yeah that one's got almost a million views 926

25:47 th000 I kind of enjoyed that video it's uh there's again um like I just said for

25:52 your like doubling thing there's some problems with it but it was a fun video

25:58 that's true so I don't know I'm kind of excited for the war again just because I

26:03 like I like what it brings in terms of

26:07 like people actually building lowcost computers yeah and I get a kick out of

26:10 uh I get a kick out of how much more and more PC like the consoles continue to

26:15 become it's like now all of a sudden you can get PlayStations with different

26:21 specs yes my friends PlayStation 4s with

26:24 different Core specs and when you run

26:27 games in your better Playstation 4 versus your peasant PlayStation 4 we're

26:32 going to we're going to have like a whole new level there's going to be like there's going to be like like the the

26:36 pcmr guys are going to be like there's like console peasants and then there's

26:40 like console like vassals or something there's going to be like

26:44 rankings and it's all going to be dramatic and it's going to be all over

26:48 the YouTube comments and I'm going to sit back and I'm going to laugh um but

26:52 but in a nutshell okay Tony needed to do this for a couple of reasons number one

26:57 is it's all about for even Sony it's like you know the TV division's kind of

27:01 sitting there going like how are you guys not helping us out here okay we're

27:06 trying to sell some 4K TVs here right so they had to have 4K support whether it's

27:11 for Blu-ray or whether it is for gaming

27:14 4K support had to come so they had to do something more powerful because the

27:17 original PlayStation 4 was going to run games at like 12 frames per second twice

27:21 a cinematic is 24 frames per second um

27:24 also PlayStation VR there was speculation that was going to use some

27:30 rendering tricks some frame interpolation tricks they were going to

27:34 figure out how to get psvr running on the original PlayStation 4 and have it

27:38 be a good experience we were skeptical looks like they didn't PlayStation 4 Pro

27:44 or is that what they're calling it PlayStation 4 Pro yeah PS4 Pro is going

27:47 to be the way to experience psvr if you care it all about a good experience what

27:53 how does it make you professional

27:59 if you were a Pro Gamer you probably wouldn't game on a like peasant station

28:04 4 yeah if you're a Pro Gamer you I bet they're going to call it peasant station

28:07 4 someone will call it peasant station 4 a PlayStation 4 Pro owner is going to

28:12 start that you might have just started that yourself I'm not sure yeah people

28:16 going to start having pictures of the original PlayStation 4 or peasant

28:20 station 4 and have like fake dirt on it yeah oh man feel like it's the peasant

28:25 station 4 oh my this this is going to be

28:28 confusing actually one of the really good things about consoles for a long

28:33 time was the like easy gifting idea Plug

28:36 and Play the mom could just go to the store and be like my son wants the Xbox

28:41 and then or the PlayStation yeah they'd be like here's the newest one here is

28:47 one game the only game that matters right now y your son will or daughter

28:51 will have to wait two years for more interesting more games yeah and that's

28:56 and it was fine and now it's going to be

28:59 and we liked it that way do you want the 500 gig model do you

29:04 want the 1 TB model do you want the pro model do you want the non is your son

29:08 not a professional is your daughter going to going to grow up to pump gas

29:12 all her life I mean that's okay but you're not

29:16 going to want the professional you're going to want this one and part of the

29:19 problem is that this might actually introduce like competitive advantages

29:24 pleb station 4 is another name for that okay yeah that'll probably be used okay

29:28 uh you should maybe straw pull a few names that you see in there and see who

29:31 poop station poop station sounds like a different thing it does it just

29:36 literally sounds like a toilet yeah um

29:39 apparently does not support 4K Blu-ray I did not know that I'd imagine that'll

29:42 come with a firm update there's no way that it doesn't support 4K Blu-ray at

29:46 some point that's ridiculous uh anyways what I was going

29:50 to say was it might actually introduce a competitive Advantage because if you're

29:54 getting significantly more frame rate like maybe maybe in older games that

29:59 aren't meant to run or aren't designed to run at higher resolution they might

30:03 run faster I was wrong I did not follow

30:06 the PlayStation 4 Pro news because I don't care um but no the absence of a 4K

30:12 Blu-ray player is due to a lack of consumer demand according to PlayStation

30:17 boss Andrew House support cannot be patched in Via firmware update at a

30:20 later date either he

30:24 confirmed okay oh yeah lack of consumer demand the

30:29 very first question on amazon.com when

30:32 you scroll down on the pre-order page with over two times the we can switch to

30:37 my screen if you'd like um with over two times the upvotes of any other question

30:42 only at 42 but this is the your uh it's covered up by the I'll scroll it's okay

30:47 I got it might want to give it the old

30:50 ah fancy uh oh I'm going to do this it's

30:54 only 42 votes as you can see there but it's like it's still up there and this

30:58 is the pre-order page on Amazon way before you can buy it so I'm not

31:01 suspecting that much and there's 206 answers which is insane compared to like

31:07 the one or six or zero answers on the other questions I like the top answer

31:11 and one of the most mindboggling decisions in console history

31:16 no it cannot play Ultra HD

31:20 Blu-rays so yeah lack of consumer demand

31:23 may be an inaccurate statement what I'm going to say it may not also be complet

31:27 completely like okay I

31:32 personally own a movie watching setup

31:36 that has a 65 in TV literally a meter from my

31:42 face okay I am about as Target a market

31:48 as 4K Blu-ray could possibly have I

31:52 could not possibly care less really I I

31:56 do like honestly I'll tell I have bought DVDs like even recently like before I

32:01 got that set up and now I'm really disappointed I own DVDs but streaming 4K

32:06 does not look better than 1080p Blu-ray and 1080p Blu-ray looks great even at

32:13 that 4K Blu Ray cuz streaming 4K is not

32:16 the same oh no it's not it's not the same on like a few levels which is which

32:20 is a whole a whole other way to attack Sony's argument for going pretty blunt

32:25 here and say that I don't think you can comment if you haven't

32:28 okay okay fine so I'll tell you what I will obtain a 4K Blu-ray at some point

32:34 and we will revisit this conversation that could be a cool video

32:38 isth it actually that's probably a pretty good video I should probably do that you should probably and I'll be

32:42 like for you no it's a meter from your

32:45 face hell yeah um okay but like

32:49 what was I going to say I think that consumer demand would be more existent

32:52 if this thing did support it yeah because I don't think that many people

32:56 are going to want to go buy a player for 4K Blu-ray but if their PlayStation

32:59 already supported it and they go buy a couple discs maybe especially if they

33:04 were cheap like especially by the time and maybe that's part of the problem

33:07 maybe they don't feel like supporting it because they're not going to get $29.99

33:11 for a Blu-ray disc anymore uh so maybe the royalties just aren't even like I I

33:15 don't know what the rationale internally at Sony is exactly but basically they've

33:20 decided it's not worth it yeah um but

33:23 like personally especially for like five bucks like in the $7 bin Maybe not

33:28 tomorrow cuz 4K Blu-ray is going to be expensive for a bit but in the $7 bin in

33:31 a few years I would rather own it than stream it in a lot of cases yep me too I

33:37 don't buy everything a lot of stuff I stream certain content though especially

33:41 like I'm buying House of Cards even though I have a 4K Netflix

33:44 subcription hackers uh uh Harry Potter

33:48 Lord of the Rings secret life of Walter midi The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus

33:52 these are all things that I'd like to have on yep on a physical media that I

33:56 own yep I mean I don't keep them on physical media because I made that video

34:01 yeah cuz it's stupid I agree with that but the idea is that you you have it cuz

34:06 Netflix is really volatile without web compression y I have it forever y

34:11 because I paid for it and these streaming services are volatile I don't think Netflix is going to go away that's

34:15 not what I mean by volatile but the content that's on there can change and

34:19 does CH yeah and it's designed that way like it's supposed to be like that

34:23 they're not going to license everything cuz that costs money and I love it and it's fine and people who watch Netflix

34:27 are going to like watch Netflix regularly they want to be refreshing it so that's fine yeah it also creates that

34:31 urgency like when you see something like it's very smart actually um what was I

34:37 oh right I was going to add this to the um so is 4K Blu-ray worth it no but I

34:47 like it so there that's already the whole video all

34:51 6,782 of you can save yourselves the

34:55 effort but for everyone else hopefully that'll be video I still I still kind of

34:59 want like it's totally not worth it it goes completely against the algorithm

35:03 stuff that YouTube is trying to use right now but I would still love to make

35:06 that channel that we talked about back at the old office was it I don't know if

35:09 you remember this but um I talked about it with a OnePlus review I think it was

35:14 the OnePlus One that I was talking about it for where I would be like it's just

35:19 like super short tech reviews so like 30

35:23 second revieww so yeah like terrible

35:26 company good phone problems with software stuff look it up

35:30 on the forums but it's cheap but it's cheap see you next

35:35 time and like you could review graphics cards like that cuz you could just take

35:40 a price performance graph be like it's Lots here see you next

35:45 time I hate you what seriously

35:51 though so many things could be done that way everyone's suggesting we do Tech

35:55 quickie reviews Techquickie review Techquickie could start doing product

36:03 reviews we even have a place to put it potentially that's oh it's so short

36:08 though it's shorter than Tech quickies cuz Tech quickies aren't really like the

36:12 fastest possible well they used to be fast as possible now they're like as as

36:18 much history and context as possible yeah yeah they're not that short no yeah

36:24 I don't know twitch chat's freaking out they wanted on they want it on Tech Wiki

36:28 it's so short cuz these would be like patent it 30

36:32 second these would be like 30 second videos yeah I don't know we need to

36:36 trademark the the name react react oh Lord maybe we could

36:41 trademark the name 30 second videos and

36:45 then if anyone makes a video that's 30 seconds long we can just crush them

36:50 bow um turbotech that's not a bad name

36:53 for turbo tech h

36:58 whoa slow down there turbo I I don't know twitch chat's like

37:03 flipping out they love this I'm just I'm just soaking in the twitch chat

37:07 experience right now but yeah do you remember that conversation we talked about it with the OnePlus I I actually

37:11 do vaguely remember it but I had completely forgotten I had like a script

37:15 for the OnePlus One done at that point in time I I I don't remember where it

37:19 ended up going but um it was like you

37:23 can do it for so many things

37:28 oh man any modern

37:34 motherboard here's all the ports it has enjoy yeah by the way if you want to put

37:39 your old CPU on it get crapped off yeah

37:45 CPUs more Co they're slightly faster it

37:49 consumes less power enjoy you could just and then like you

37:54 could just copy paste videos so like

37:58 don't don't say the product name in the video and then if

38:03 like if the content of the review would be the same you just put a different

38:07 title on it and re-upload it so like every CPU Cooler that comes

38:14 out have this heat pipes check aluminum

38:17 fins check flat bottom surface check comes with a fan check performance

38:22 pretty good and then okay that that could be

38:26 the difference for every video there just be performance pretty good and

38:29 there's a graph while you say performance pretty good and it just slots it wherever it goes which is going

38:32 to be like exactly where the ones in the same form factor go and then you're

38:36 done not the worst idea I've ever heard I mean it okay we're going to get it's

38:41 so far away from like Advertiser friendly and it's completely the

38:44 opposite of what YouTube wants yeah we're going to get killed on watch time

38:47 oh destroyed I think we're going to get killed on like comments cuz like we're

38:51 going to have to like that's the thing is we're going to have to get down and

38:55 dirty with like fan Bo arguments like if

38:58 we're going to try and summarize an AMD or an NVIDIA graphics card we're going

39:02 to have to be like runs hot is loud

39:05 worst drivers I love that you didn't say what

39:10 brand there no that's because it switches Generation by generation it

39:13 does but no but Okay the reason why I said that is cu the the copy paste video

39:17 thing that I was talking about CU you could just use that for like a bunch of

39:20 different

39:25 cards I like it way too much I just it it does have a it has a lot of

39:30 problems and the thing is people don't even want that people want words yep

39:35 even if they're pretty close to unnecessary they want words and

39:38 sometimes the words are about pacing and they're about absorbing what you're

39:41 looking at and adding impact to a certain part of the video or like

39:46 specifically what you're saying or whatever else like I have intentionally

39:50 over the years on lineus Tech tips and on Techquickie increase the length of

39:54 the videos to add more depth and more analysis and more we used to do history

40:00 I had a benchmark for text length for

40:03 videos before yep and I think I got it from you and it was a page and a half

40:08 including your intro and all the extra stuff that's on our script templates and

40:12 now that's way too short yep it has to

40:16 be two pages if not more and the audience expects they expect like a

40:20 seven to eight minute video and they expect us to say something meaningful in

40:23 that time so maybe this would just be a way to let off steam yeah like this

40:27 thing sucks it costs too much don't buy

40:33 it that would be awesome this can transition us into our

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43:12 was so crushed when they said we shouldn't do their slogans anymore yeah

43:16 but we just don't care I mean and then their new slogan is set your website apart that's not bad no that's pretty

43:21 good no but we're not supposed to say it we're not supposed to say it I thought

43:24 we're not supposed to say any slogans anymore I don't know I hate Nick

43:29 I don't hate Nick well I hate him telling me that I can't do my sponsor

43:32 reads the way I want to do them okay well that's actually I don't hate him

43:36 it's more amusing than anything else cuz I'm just going to ignore him anyway oh

43:39 there's really nothing to hate about it other than like just but then didn't you

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43:48 yeah that's right he's a hypocrite I think I heard the door open up there and he was going to come down and yell at us

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44:49 this much it fits here on a performance graph which is exactly where you expect

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45:04 goodbye cooler review right there full video full video okay there is some

45:09 editing time 10 minutes there is some work that has to go into the video

45:13 though yeah CU like we have to actually Benchmark it you need performance graphs

45:16 yes we need to validate that the if we're going to say it doesn't matter we

45:20 have to actually make sure it doesn't matter definitely and you could put the performance grafts there someone could

45:23 make a magic heat sink although if not to was to be believed it's much more

45:27 difficult than you would think did you ever watch my video from the noct a booth I did actually oh okay well for

45:32 those of you who didn't so I'm not going to talk to you anymore and I talked to

45:35 them right okay so my video from the noct booth was really cool because

45:40 basically it was an explanation for why Noctua appears to have been completely

45:44 sitting on their ass for the last 3 years they haven't released the successor to the NHD 15 which took

45:49 forever after the NHD 14 and was just bigger anyway they haven't released a

45:53 successor to it in years and the answer

45:56 is that they were like well we tried all these things and and

45:59 they showed a lot of stuff they tried a lot of things and they tried a lot of

46:02 stuff that other companies have released products claiming that it's like way

46:06 better but actually when you actually put it on a CPU it doesn't make a difference and it's like oh I can't

46:10 figure out why why you're not seeing a difference in our lab we see a difference oh don't come into our lab um

46:16 nox was just like yeah we tried all that crap it doesn't work sorry or they'd be

46:21 like an astronomical amount more money to make and made like2 of a difference

46:26 yeah they made an all copper one for example they're like yeah yeah copper is

46:30 more conductive that's

46:35 cool yeah that was really interesting actually it's like super balls heavy and

46:41 super duper balls expensive it's like why don't we just make about of silver

46:45 at that point I mean do you want a $900

46:48 heat sink gold cuz we could make it for

46:52 you would probably be terrible it would droop oh yeah ter gold would be awful

46:56 and it's as conductive as silver anyway yeah I've heard about that yep um okay

47:02 all right let's stop beating around the bush Apple's iPhone 7 wait wait wait

47:06 wait I got it hold up iPhone 7 really expensive no headphone jack you can use

47:11 an adapter it's $40 and really big

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47:32 headliner the out of this channel man all right so let's screen share with

47:36 me the verg's article The 11 most important thing from Apple's iPhone 7

47:41 event you didn't even get all 11 of them you suck all of mind you I think they

47:46 have the Apple Watch 2 as one of the most important things so I really don't

47:51 think that uh I'm going to agree with Y yeah no no sorry Verge we're done we're

47:55 done here ni um although so what I don't

47:58 know yet I can't believe they showed off a Pokémon go app for the Apple watch

48:02 that took up like a significant amount of time um in the keynote um what I

48:07 don't know about the Apple watch is whether the screen is always on I

48:11 haven't actually seen that in anyone's summary and I haven't finished watching

48:15 the event yet I haven't watched that part uh so maybe twitch chat can let me

48:19 know supposedly it is twice as bright which is wonderful but I never asked for

48:23 that what I asked for was to be able to tell the freaking time was the

48:27 problem at all no it wasn't the problem was that it isn't on and a lot of people

48:33 have criticized me over this they've been look lest you don't get it my Apple

48:37 watch lasts all day I'm like good for

48:40 you not the point not the point I want

48:44 to be able to tell what time it is when I'm sitting having an awkward

48:48 conversation and I'm trying to figure out when I need to dismiss myself from

48:52 this so that I can be somewhere on time and that doesn't work when I have to go

48:56 like

48:59 this I mean that should be like a dance do the watch do the watch do this specific

49:06 gesture if you want to know the time do the watch do the

49:12 watch that's going to be gift to hell oh I know right um there's nothing we can

49:17 do about that okay what if we do them as supplementary

49:20 reviews so for every take this conversation offline let's Okay Apple

49:25 iPhone 7 same display as the 6s they say

49:28 it's 25% brighter cool same resolution

49:32 which I don't personally care about I'd just as soon save the battery life and

49:35 have a lower resolution display as long as I can't tell that it's lower

49:38 resolution which quite frankly I cannot the home button now has no physical

49:42 click this is a big one for me this is something that if the phone didn't have

49:48 other crippling problems with it could convince me that an iPhone is a more

49:53 worthwhile purchase now than it was yesterday uh

49:57 because the physical click is breakable because it's breakable and because it

50:00 does break because it breaks frequently if it didn't really break then it would

50:04 be fine but I've heard so many people that have to replace buttons including you right Y and there are other issues

50:09 like for a while Apple wasn't allowing people to retain Touch ID if they were

50:12 place the button themselves which is ridiculous I think they've addressed

50:15 that now but the point is now it's haptic feedback so it feels like a click

50:20 but it's not and if it works anywhere near as well as the MacBook 2015 it'll

50:24 be awesome and I will love it okay yeah

50:27 their haptic feedback engine is like very good very good okay it's water

50:31 resistant they're calling it out as IP67 and they have been scandals so the S7

50:36 active um you know was found with I

50:39 think it was two samples the consumer reports or something like Anyway was

50:43 found to not necessarily be all that water resistant uh if Apple's claiming

50:47 it I what I will say is it's probably pretty darn good and I talked about this

50:52 and this is going to be really embarrassing because I did a review of

50:55 the odsy sign um headphones a lightning headphone and

51:02 it got bumped because of packs so the

51:06 release to YouTube is is a twoe window instead of a onee window and I speculate

51:11 about the new iPhone 7 if that's what they're going to call it and then I

51:16 speculate that if the objective was to

51:20 increase water resistance like if they're going to give me some meaningful

51:23 benefit out of taking away my headphone jack then that will probably be it

51:28 because I could see apple now they've eliminated the home button which is very

51:32 difficult to Ingress protect they have eliminated the headphone jack which is

51:37 difficult to Ingress protect so if the objective here was not only to you know

51:43 make the phone slightly Slimmer which I don't care about but if it was to give

51:46 me a meaningful upgrade in some other way I would be a lot more receptive to

51:50 it and it looks like that is indeed what they did although that video will still be kind of

51:54 embarrassing so Apple's Ear Pod will now collect collect connect through the

51:58 lightning connector Port there are no headphone there is no headphone jack on

52:03 the thing that I wanted to add about your ingress protection thing this phone

52:07 is I don't remember what it is IP67 if i7 I don't believe that I've taken it

52:12 out of spec um it has problems there you

52:15 go that are very probably because of water on the other hand the Galaxy S7

52:20 has been the best performing water resistant device that I've yet seen

52:23 surviving I think we went 20 ft down that's int before it died or 20 or 30t

52:28 down in salt water before it managed to die so this audio jack basically

52:33 horrible Yeah so basically the point is there's a lot of variability and if

52:38 Apple has been quietly working on improving the water resistance of their

52:42 devices over time which we know yeah and they're basic they've basically

52:45 determined okay well for us to put IP67 on something we need to eliminate these

52:50 ports and they were just kind of waiting for the right moment to do it because

52:53 it's not like water resistant competitors haven't been out for quite a while now maybe they kind of went okay

52:59 you know you have to be what is it you have to have the courage to move forward

53:02 or with a thing that no something like that but okay my counter argument to

53:06 that a little bit I said I was going to Devil's Advocate you but not yet um why

53:11 don't just have two go dually USB type

53:17 C's yeah I mean that's an interesting you can have one that like this one

53:22 charges faster by the way or something you can plug it into either but like

53:26 this one will charge your phone faster apple is I mean I think they're

53:29 philosophically opposed to that like they've never put yeah they've never put

53:33 an extra port on anything if they didn't have to I mean they even have a laptop

53:37 computer that only has one port and a headphone jack though oh

53:43 wck oh man I mean are we going to see Apple's laptop like have they been

53:47 waiting to refresh their laptops so they can put lightning connectors on them

53:50 like interesting there's a thought um so

53:55 I mean the summary is and I actually do a better job of this in my odsy sign

53:59 review and I'll talk about it some more when I review the iPhone 7 which I undoubtedly will um but the summary is

54:04 it's a mixed bag you get a little bit of extra space inside the device that you

54:07 can use for whatever it is that you determine you need to use it for you

54:11 lose compatibility with 99.999% of headphones on the planet uh

54:16 without a goofy adapter that people will undoubtedly lose like I was actually

54:21 um uh so I have another device here in the studio the uh Droid Z force uh from

54:28 Lenovo the Moto Droid Z force from like

54:32 yeah Lenovo acquired them I think they're branding at Lenovo anyway the point is it only has a USB type-c

54:37 connector it does not have a headphone jack and I've used the adapter and it

54:41 cleverly they include this little rubber thing so that you can stick it to your

54:44 headphones so it doesn't like come off and get lost um I think people are

54:50 ultimately going to be salty about it I'm salty like eight of those cables I

54:55 would prefer to just be able to plug in natively um I don't personally find that

55:00 upgraded amps and DXs make a huge difference for me with the kind of

55:04 source material that I use and that quite if we're all being honest with

55:07 ourselves none of you use either um so I

55:11 never wanted this but at the end of the

55:14 day oh I think it's this

55:21 cable um did that change your mic did

55:24 you fully unplug it oh maybe it's worth checking oh for crying out loud but at

55:29 the end of the day people are going to accept it no it's still fine and uh yeah

55:35 I think we're all going to move on I mean apple is pushing their wireless ear

55:40 pods airpods is that what they're calling them they look so ridiculous yeah they have new uh they have new uh

55:47 wireless Beats the problem for me is that this introduces yet

55:52 another charge thing in my life that I have to charge every day

55:56 that's the very first thing I thought of when I saw that was like wow I don't

55:59 want to charge my headphones Now Intel showed off a couple of years ago at CES

56:03 they showed off a wireless charging Bowl the concept for which is awesome okay

56:10 that I would be okay with wireless crap

56:13 if all I had to do at the end of the day go to bed is like shed your watch drop

56:17 your earphones in drop your phone in I get up in the morning and everything is

56:21 wirelessly charged it slow charges so my battery doesn't heat up and I work like

56:25 it awes and it's amazing that would be

56:28 great and maybe that's the future we're heading towards and maybe you have to

56:32 take these steps in order to get enough Mass Appeal for these wireless devices

56:36 that you can get the economies of scale that are associated with shrinking the

56:40 batteries and shrinking the electronics and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

56:43 maybe we're heading towards that but it is a very frustrating stepping stone and

56:47 I personally would still use my iPhone 6s although I'm saying this without

56:52 having used the seven they say the camera is amazing I probably will still

56:56 use my iPhone 6s if I need to use an iOS device there that's my two cents I'm not

57:02 going to buy a full gamut of new

57:05 headphone things cuz I use full headphones and earbuds with my phone so

57:11 okay that's not going to happen but I want I

57:14 wanted again I'm going to need a million of them and like they're probably not

57:19 cheap uh I don't remember how much they cost but I'm sure we will see cheaper

57:23 ones after the fact someone was say someone said 40 bucks in the twitch chat

57:27 but I don't think that's right I've I think 40 bucks wasn't that for the Balon

57:32 USBC to dual USBC that I'm not sure have

57:35 you seen that so Belin has an adapter already or not USBC derp lightning um

57:43 that just splits it but it's like on a short little cable and then it's a huge

57:46 box so that you'd be able to plug in a headphone a microphone thing there you

57:51 go oh Lordy but it also doesn't break to 3.5

57:58 and that's $40 yeah and that well that's to address the other issue I mean I

58:02 haven't even talked about that now you can't charge your phone and use headphones at the same time unless

58:06 you're using wireless headphones that's a big problem for me which is a huge

58:09 problem for any mobile gamer I mean Apple's

58:13 keynote blah blah blah we are the biggest Mobile gaming platform blah blah

58:18 blah blah you can only game for a few hours on an iPhone before it runs out of

58:22 battery ha good luck listening to your headphones so you don't have have to be

58:26 that jerk on the bus that's got Clash of Clans well I said freaking by

58:32 the way that sort of slipped out kind of funny I don't swear on this show kids at

58:36 home don't repeat what you heard here um

58:40 I mean you know Clash of Clans on the bus making everyone around you mad yeah

58:44 like that's super ridiculous and like obviously you can just mute it or

58:48 whatever but that's lame yeah that's stupid why would you degrade The

58:52 Experience no a new device should never degrade the experience what I'm

58:56 expecting is that I kind of think someone's going to come out with a a

59:01 case that has extra ports built in I'm

59:04 not kidding so you're just going to have to buy a bigger phone essentially our

59:07 new device is magical it's revolutionary it's three times as big with all the

59:11 stupid adapters that you have bolted onto it but like having it slim Lin in a

59:15 case as Slim as it can get um and just making your phone taller essentially is

59:21 probably the most elegant solution that they're going to be able to do so the case will plug into the bottom of your

59:25 phone it's like saying the most elegant way to put a 2 two on a hippo like there

59:29 well there is a most elegant way to put a two two on a hippo I'm sure there is

59:33 but who cares yeah but I would be more interested in this though I would rather

59:37 use the phone if it got to a split out box in an external case thing and that

59:42 went into like dual USB or why do I keep

59:46 saying USB dual lightning and like and a 3.5 it's technically USB so that would

59:50 be Wicked dual lightning at a 3.5 I would

59:54 be very happy so there's a new camera CER larger aperture Optical image

59:58 stabilization the iPhone 7 actually gets an additional telephoto lens on the back

60:02 that works like a built-in Zoom feature uh longer battery life like apparently

60:08 very substantially they haven't specified the capacity yet I guess we'll

60:11 just have to wait for the iFix and tear down I don't know why they're so like

60:15 about all this stuff we're going to figure it out eventually anyway the

60:18 front-facing camera is now 7 megapixels and includes Auto Image stabilization

60:22 which is not the same as Optical image stabilization so we'll find exactly what

60:26 that means and they have finally done away with the 16 gig capacity and they

60:30 have a glossy jet black that will look great in photos and will validate once

60:34 and for all why Luke and I have to spend so much time being angry at

60:38 manufacturers for making glossy black things and it will be because the iPhone

60:43 7 will sell better in that color than anything else because Apple made it more

60:47 exclusive by making it only available in the higher capacities so people are

60:50 going to want to show off that they have a ball in one they're going to get a glossy jet black one and we are going to

60:55 have to continue to be mad that our wireless routers are glossy black

60:58 plastic and look stupid after 4 seconds because you had the audacity to plug a

61:02 cable into them or just let dust sit on

61:05 them that too glossy things just look terrible unless you literally just

61:10 cleaned it so we asked on Twitter um if people

61:14 wanted to suggest what we should talk about on Wow about the iPhone 7 I

61:18 completely forgot to look at this but I'm pretty sure that we talked about

61:22 most of them um yeah

61:26 I one of the things that I really don't like about the wireless ear pods is that they look like

61:30 earrings have you seen that um yeah yeah

61:34 I saw them I think they look ridiculous they do yeah like most wireless

61:39 headphones they just wrap around they're going to turn into a status symbol they're going to be like the original

61:43 white ear pods or no they weren't called earpods whatever I don't care white ear

61:47 white earphones H I don't know man we'll

61:51 see we will see but I don't some celebrity is going to wear them yeah

61:56 yeah but then you look at like Bluetooth

61:59 things yeah those always kind of made you look sort of like a douche yeah they

62:02 make you look like a douche and and these will make you look like a douche

62:05 unless you're like cool and then they will make you look like a

62:10 douch whatever oh man uh most people really

62:16 just asked for the headphone jack removal controversy so yeah yeah that

62:22 was fairly obvious um Robert Preston says I'm an easy man to make happy I

62:27 want a phone that makes calls and doesn't explode yep I like that well you have to

62:31 shop fairly carefully these days not exploding is an exclusive feature all

62:37 right so yeah they talk about waterproof talk about okay so our summary notes

62:41 were fine excellent good I'm happy with the waterproof improvements it's

62:44 expensive by the way I've been a big I've been a I've been a big wow I've

62:49 been a bigon no I just it got caught in my

62:53 nasal because I'm sick right now all right The eyew Watch 2 is

62:57 here hooray you're going to review it I

63:01 probably will I'll probably end up just saying I think it's stupid again starts

63:05 at three excuse me $370 has GPS boasts a

63:09 brighter display so basically they addressed everything that I don't care about it's like more waterproof now I

63:13 don't know how many people's Apple watches are dying in the water MSRP for

63:17 a GTX 1070 yeah not that you can buy them get

63:24 better video card than probably have if you didn't buy an Apple Watch I have a

63:28 rant on that coming uh there's a new Mario game for iOS the original article

63:31 here is from Kotaku coming on Android

63:35 later so there you go Mario is on a phone which is exciting because if you

63:40 wanted to play Mario on your phone then that will excite you I mean it'll be

63:44 nice to have better quality Platformers on mobile so that's cool y it'll offer

63:48 three distinct modes so there's challenge courses to complete there's a

63:51 second mode which is challenging play data of other people's courses and then

63:54 you can create your own Mushroom Kingdom using coins collected by playing the

63:58 first two modes one thing that drives me insane about this where's the actual

64:03 topic uh it'll be free to download with a set

64:08 purchase price what what does that even mean and that's

64:14 not like a weird quote that Colton did that's exactly the

64:19 quote in quotations that's what the guy

64:23 said so like I don't know know cuz I

64:26 read I I read it'll be free to download

64:29 but with a set purchase price and was like Wow Colton way to go clicked

64:33 through and was like oh actually yes good job Colton more literally this

64:39 time what does that even mean okay you

64:43 claimed to see this coming I did not hit me hit me VR adoption among steam users

64:47 has crashed to a halt original article here is from Venture beat uh VR is an

64:52 extremely difficult thing to properly

64:56 explain the experience and feeling of

65:00 without having the person actually do it apparently it means uh it is not free

65:04 you pay there are no

65:08 microtransactions you can download it for free but you have to pay to unlock

65:12 it that's super dumb yeah so there you

65:16 go okay sure that's super dumb yeah it was apparently a bad translation okay

65:21 okay that makes sense um okay so yes

65:24 it's extremely it's it's hard to translate because it's an experience MH

65:29 it's like some it's like telling someone that um a roller coaster was cool who's

65:35 never been on a roller coaster or anything that moves quickly or inflicted

65:38 GeForce on them at all before mhm yeah you go around the corner and it like

65:42 pulls your body and stuff and the person's like what like it doesn't it

65:48 doesn't translate very well every single person I've described VR2 no matter how

65:51 excited and how intricate I made the description once they try it completely

65:58 different conversations they're pretty dead pan and like yeah sure whatever

66:01 dude then they try it they're like whoa I want one like every single time so

66:06 here is sort of where I didn't see this

66:09 coming cuz I agree with everything you just said okay but what I thought was

66:17 that people would do that people would show their friends and they'd be like

66:21 whoa I want one so what you're saying is that the people who play VR games don't

66:25 have friends well there's a combination of things um that's possibly true I mean

66:31 I play VR I don't have friends I'm that's possibly true to a certain degree

66:35 one thing that I was pushing for quite a while and you probably know this is that

66:38 I wanted Best Buys and stuff like brick and mortar stores setting up yeah but

66:44 not really yet yeah it takes time and it's not really that great yet and I've

66:48 heard of a couple small brick and mortar stores having them with the rift which

66:52 is not the experience that I want people trying right

66:56 and the most popular VR experience right

66:59 now is with the damn gear

67:03 VR o the gear VR is awful exactly so

67:07 people are getting this gear VR for free throwing it on and then going why the

67:12 heck censoring myself a little bit there would I ever spend all that money $1,000

67:18 for like that but better because it isn't that but better it's not that at

67:21 all completely different categories of things right but they're called falling

67:25 at the same thing and Samsung is oh oh

67:28 yeah and their their radio advertisements are like oh yeah today I was running around with dinosaurs and

67:33 then I was like fighting zombies and stuff and so they try to make it the

67:37 same amount of exciting and they describe it in the exact same way that

67:41 people are describing the high-end headsets then people are trying the gear

67:45 vrs and then going why the hell would I ever buy that nicer

67:49 one so people are not exposed to it in a

67:53 direct Hands-On way right people are exposed to shitty versions of it in a

67:58 direct Hands-On way mhm and the community that has them is very small

68:04 and then they're really expensive right and the well-informed community also

68:09 knows that these are the first version

68:12 there's probably follow-up versions coming relatively quickly that will be

68:17 considerably better and that's going to be happening for a while y okay so like

68:20 it's it's this huge I totally saw this coming uh that's why that's a big reason

68:26 why I was worried about even making the rift review so late is because I knew

68:29 the hype train was already crashing so hard all right so basically the numbers

68:34 are here uh according to a survey of customers that use steam conducted by

68:38 Valve um the number of new HTC VI owners

68:42 on Steam only grew by 3% in July and

68:46 remained flat in August Oculus saw similar results of 3% in July and .1% in

68:52 August yep July and August are important because they are the first first months

68:55 where both HTC and Oculus are shipping

68:58 orders when they receive them wow that's tough eh

69:05 yeah all right um let me just see if

69:09 we've got anything else that's really interesting here I would be interested in seeing some other statistics on that

69:13 steam thing like the percentage of computers that can actually perform

69:18 properly with those VR headsets how many of those people are buying headsets

69:23 right because a huge amount of the steam Hardware survey is

69:26 like not even necessarily dedicated GPU laptops y that's true and like your

69:32 mom's HP that was 300 bucks and stuff

69:35 like that so a lot of these things VR headsets aren't even remotely in the

69:39 Horizon for them and it doesn't apply so

69:43 the percentage sounds lower than it probably should so this made me mad and

69:47 then I got over it Google Chrome to disallow backspace as the back button

69:51 see I'm going to press backspace and it's not going to do anything mind you this is the first page I loaded in this

69:55 tab so it probably wouldn't have done anything anyway but I'll demonstrate

69:58 again I'm pressing see oh look at that alt left press alt left Arrow to go back

70:04 press alt left all right all right Chrome there you go so the idea is to

70:08 keep people from losing all their work by accidentally trying to backspace

70:12 something and then losing a web form which I personally don't really have a

70:16 lot of difficulty with apparently this is really old and this is

70:19 old not not this VR thing oh Chrome well

70:23 whatever I know no they've been rolling it out slowly okay it hit me this week

70:27 okay and I hadn't heard about it and it made me mad you use that that's all I

70:31 use backspace to go yeah yeah I don't all the time I don't well I just do it

70:36 with my mouse whatever which will still work I do it with both get wrecked

70:41 sometimes I touch the little back button on the touch screen yeah that's right

70:45 whoa yeah you're a you're like I'm like a rebel triangle

70:50 yeah um what no I kind of

70:55 I'll sure all right no I'll I'll I'll do it I'll I'll bite I'll bite on this one

71:01 okay Turing phone Cadenza will

71:05 apparently feature dual Snapdragon 830s with a 60 megapixel quad rear

71:12 camera triplet lens why would you have quad rear cameras so IMAX 6K is the

71:18 resolution they're calling that dual front cameras 20 megapixels 12 gigs of

71:23 RAM one tab of storage swordfish OS with

71:26 deep learning AI what is this a a 5.8

71:31 inch 1440 by 2560

71:34 display um so Turing robotics has revealed plans for the future of the

71:38 Turing phone uh should be a Leading Edge

71:41 program to realize the next generation of mobile devices um 1 gbit per second 60 GHz y

71:48 gig support I mean what are they planning saying the phone will be released sometime in 2017 quad nano SIM

71:53 support I mean this B basically just sounds like someone going on PC parts

71:57 picker and just like picking all the most expensive stuff that totally won't

72:01 work together and just putting it in a

72:04 cart graphine oxide composite body workor with liquid metal 2.0 structural

72:09 frame it's only going to have a 2 2400 milliamp oh 2400 milliamp graphine super

72:14 capacitor battery so like basically like instant charging and a 16600 Milah

72:20 lithium hyrogen hydrogen fuel cell and it's really funny because our

72:24 next topic is halflife 3 confirmed which is almost like that phone is like

72:29 halflife 3 confirmed why is this in here what is this we're almost at the back to

72:33 the future date we're even closer to the Star Wars Tipping Point the what on May

72:37 13th The Phantom Menace will have come out closer to Return of the Jedi than to

72:40 the present it's weird how I'm consistently

72:43 surprised by the passage of time when it's literally the most predictable thing in the universe you know a long

72:46 time ago should have plus four more decades added into the

72:51 re-releases what oh hold on a second halflife

72:56 halflife episode 2 it's been that many

72:59 days September 10th 2016 so that's the

73:02 oh I see okay wow has it really was it

73:05 yeah it was 10 years has it really been 10 years since halflife episode 2 holy

73:10 crap we're old wow speaking of VR things cuz

73:15 someone lit the fire um Oculus touch controller price was leaked on media

73:19 Mark for

73:23 €200 oh cool which is probably going to be $200 as well because because H take

73:30 that Europeans you're not an American so

73:33 you get wrecked by pricing apparently sorry we're not Americans either so

73:38 before anyone forgets that point um we

73:41 just like talking about Trump because it's funny and it really impacts us a

73:45 lot because we live really close and we're really small population yeah I

73:48 mean what if he makes us pay for a wall that is like a really long border it is

73:53 all right so thank you for tuning in to the W show we will see you again next

73:56 week same bat Time same bat Channel we could employ all the oil riggers that

74:01 way could be good what if you made the wall out of solar

74:05 panels and then it became a profit Venture we could export the power to the

74:09 states so you're saying solar freaking

74:12 walls yeah solar freaking walls solar freaking walls you're not allowed on

74:17 this show

74:28 would the top of the wall be a road like if you travel along the border on the

74:32 wall Road Road Wall okay